Open Forum: December 1, 2018

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  1. zyconoclast

    Brexit: Cross-party bid to stop ‘no-deal’

    A cross-party group of MPs will use next month’s landmark Brexit vote to try to ensure the UK cannot leave the EU without a deal.

    They want to amend the “meaningful vote” motion to rule out “no deal”.

    The BBC understands Conservative, Labour, SNP, Liberal Democrat, Plaid Cymru and Green politicians are involved.

    MPs are due to vote on the prime minister’s Brexit agreement with the EU on 11 December.

    Theresa May has repeatedly said voting the deal down would risk a “no-deal” Brexit.

    But amendments being discussed in Westminster would seek to rule that out. Several sources told the BBC they think such an amendment is the only one that could command a majority.

    It would not be legally binding, but a source said if MPs back the amendment it would be a clear “expression of parliamentary opinion”.

    Another source says it would “knock out” leaving the EU without a deal as a realistic option.

    A third source said there was a “growing consensus” against a “no-deal” Brexit.

  2. mh

    Mundine KO’d 1min 30s.

    🤪🥊

  3. zyconoclast

    So we have chocolate flake and snowflake.

    Trump Judicial Nominee Set To Fail Amid Voter Suppression Charges

    South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott — the lone African-American Republican in the Senate — sealed Farr’s fate by saying on Thursday that he opposed the nomination. His opposition, along with Arizona GOP Sen. Jeff Flake and all Senate Democrats, means there is not enough support for the nomination to go forward.

    Farr is President Trump’s nominee to the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of North Carolina, and had been under scrutiny for defending a controversial voter ID law and other possible suppression of black voters in that state. A Justice Department memo obtained by the Washington Post this week detailed voter suppression efforts aimed at African-Americans during the 1990 campaign of the late Sen. Jesse Helms, R-N.C., for which Farr was the top lawyer.

  4. Indolent

    Another source says it would “knock out” leaving the EU without a deal as a realistic option.

    Perfect – for the remainers. The EU will refuse to come to any reasonable agreement and they’ll be stuck there forever. So much for democracy.

  5. Elle

    Am I the only girl in the top ten?

  6. JC

    No Elle. There’s a few ahead of you.

  7. zyconoclast

    Millennials projected to overtake Baby Boomers as America’s largest generation

    Millennials are on the cusp of surpassing Baby Boomers as the nation’s largest living adult generation, according to population projections from the U.S. Census Bureau. As of July 1, 2016 (the latest date for which population estimates are available), Millennials, whom we define as ages 20 to 35 in 2016, numbered 71 million, and Boomers (ages 52 to 70) numbered 74 million. Millennials are expected to overtake Boomers in population in 2019 as their numbers swell to 73 million and Boomers decline to 72 million. Generation X (ages 36 to 51 in 2016) is projected to pass the Boomers in population by 2028.

  8. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    #USMCA

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1068491952696557575?s=20

    The 3 leaders talking about the new NAFTA deal. Trump’s body language not good. But then he is standingd next to Justin Trudeau..

  9. Infidel Tiger

    Am I the only girl in the top ten?

    Depends.

    How big are your boobs?

  10. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Four-year-olds play pre-school politics on refugees
    Teacher Catherine Sundbye with four-year-old preschoolers Walter, Inara, Louis, Finbar, Kiavash and Wells at Brunswick Kindergarten in Melbourne. Picture: David Geraghty

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    Rebecca Urban
    NATIONAL EDUCATION CORRESPONDENT
    @RurbsOz
    20 minutes ago November 30, 2018
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    A Melbourne preschool has ­decided that children are never too young to embrace political ­advocacy, incorporating a recent Kids Off Nauru campaign into a lesson on refugee rights.

    Brunswick Kindergarten, in the city’s inner north, broached the contentious topic by hosting a #BlueForNauru Day in which its children, aged four and five, were encouraged to dress in blue — ­signifying sadness, according to the campaign — to learn about the plight of children in offshore detention.

    Teacher Catherine Sundbye wrote about the session in the preschool’s parent newsletter, ­detailing some of the student’s ­responses to the question: “What would you say to the politicians who won’t let the refugees in?”

    “You are mean to the guys that can’t come and live here”, “Why aren’t they allowed in Australia? I don’t think they will destroy the country”, and “I don’t like this rule” were among the comments from the children.

    Parents were advised before the session was held and were supportive of the event.

    “Kids really do understand more than we given them credit for,” one parent said.

    However, childhood experts warned about politicising early childhood, questioning whether children as young as four had the ­maturity to grasp the concept of asylum detentio

    From the Oz. Rabz doctrine, now. Good luck looking for a new teachers job, Ms Sundbye.

  11. Generation X (ages 36 to 51 in 2016) is projected to pass the Boomers in population by 2028.

    Die you bastards.

  12. Elle

    How big are your boobs?

    Am I in a frat house?

    Bouncy.

    Bed soon.

  13. mh

    ESPN
    ESPN
    @espn
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    13m
    It took Jeff Horn less than two minutes to knock out Anthony Mundine in their middleweight bout.

    https://twitter.com/espn/status/1068494547662110720?s=20

    (Video)

  14. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Die you bastards.

    What’s the matter, oh Fascist hyena? No big inheritance from your Boomer parents?

  15. Infidel Tiger

    Generation x should correctly be known as “the greatest generation”.

    No people in human history have ever had word role models or had to do so much societal and economic lifting.

  16. sdfc

    II’m 52 Monty, how dare you turn me into a baby boomer.

  17. C.L.

    Horn’s knock-out punch looked like nothing.
    In fact, ESPN commenters say it was a dive.
    It actually does look like a dive. See especially the replay:

    https://twitter.com/espn/status/1068494547662110720

  18. Elle

    C.L. Thank you for the vision. It appeared to be a fake fight. What a joke.

  19. Infidel Tiger

    Full respect to Mundine.

    Took the sucker cash. He deserves every penny.

  20. I played golf with my dad and his Boomer mates last week. Dad beat me by eight shots, he was on fire. Played with two other old blokes, they beat him by two. They play at least once every week, one of them competitively, and I play once a year.

    I used to be able to beat Dad for length on drives, but with these Big Bertha titanium-head drivers the wrinkly set can just waft it at the ball and pretty much match me. Then they beat me with superior short game. Albeit, I did rattle in an 18-footer on the eighth. Then they retired to a local coffee shop after nine holes, no stamina those Boomers. I told them I would have got them on the back nine.

    The stereotype is true: when millennials sit around talking, the topic inevitably gets around at some point to rents; if it’s Generation X, the talk turns inexorably towards house prices; and Boomers won’t shut up about share prices and bloody franking credits.

    Also I had an elderly ex-Singaporean gentleman bend my ear about Uncle George, so that was an interesting experience.

  21. JC

    What we’re wearing, monst.

  22. I was wearing Gazman, JC. It’s a nice brand for the golf course.

  23. C.L.

    Yeah, good on Mundine.
    No reason to cop a belting at this stage.
    He took the pay cheque and took that savage blow to the – um – glove, manfully.

  24. None

    Miranda Devine thinks this is brilliant analysis which means it’s probably crap.
    https://meanjin.com.au/blog/journey-ended/ written by Gray Connolly who is a lawyer of course and presents himself as a conservative but has been known to argue for things like: a little shari is good for you and; sodomy is family friendly. Anyway he’s a Catholic, he hates Tony Abbott and loves Malcolm Turnbull which probably explains why Miranda thinks he’s brilliant even though he’s writing for a loopy Lefty magazine and has now started to appear on loopy Lefty the Drum. He’s another tiresome little Lefty who dreams of entering politics. God save us from lawyers

  25. Elle

    The most moral and honorable army in the world!
    link

  26. sdfc

    Guns sportsman like Mundine don’t go out to lose. That’s ridiculous. He overestimated his ability,

  27. DrBeauGan

    Miranda Devine thinks this is brilliant analysis which means it’s probably crap.

    It’s crap. About as brainless a wank as you’d expect of Meanjin.

  28. C.L.

    None’s link:

    Increasingly, the Coalition parties view the 2019 election as Napoleon’s retreating armies viewed the retreat from Russia…

    Oh wow. A Nappy retreating from Russia analogy. Peter FitzSimons phoned; he says that’s a tiresome, boilerplate cliche.

    Unlike Napoleon’s army, though, there are too few knapsacks left among the Liberal infanterie which could still hide a baton. Indeed, the old guard and chasseurs have long since departed. Like Napoleon’s invasion of Russia, the Coalition’s six years in government have been, simply, a disaster for its purported cause. We are now at the battle of Leipzig stage, with a fatal retreat to the Paris of the Opposition benches not far off, either.

    So much wanking in one single par.

    I wrote here in 2016 and 2018 about Australian conservatism’s history and its way forward, even if its partisans now stand among its ruins. However, these pieces were written before August’s mendacious and ruinous toppling of former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. It is as if the Coalition decided to imitate the worst of the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd era, but, unlike that justly criticised Labor era, the Coalition did nothing to make the conservative faithful grateful that they had ever marched on the Moscow on the Molonglo.

    Nothing about the mendacious and ruinous toppling of former Prime Minister Tony Abbott or the mendacious and ruinous toppling of Brendan Nelson. Odd. Plus: Moscow again.

    It remains unclear, almost 100 days later, quite why Malcolm Turnbull was toppled.

    LOL. Because he lost, like, 300 News Polls for starters.

    That Malcolm Turnbull was, in fact, a very good Prime Minister, in terms of running a cabinet government and being on top of his brief, on the whole range of matters facing a Prime Minister in 2018, was neither here nor there … No reasonable observer would deny that Tony Abbott was part of the problem and bears much of the blame for the Liberals’ collapse.

    The crisis in a nutshell: “no reasonable observer” may disagree with the Turnbullians.

    When the devout Catholic, Colonel H.R. ‘Ralph’ Honner MC, the hero of Kokoda, became President of the NSW Liberals in the tumultuous 1960s, he attempted to steer it in a direction that would see it appeal to people of all classes and backgrounds. He also insisted the Liberals commence each meeting with prayer. Honner’s prayer is worth repeating:

    O God, grant us in our deliberations that we may see clearly, speak with truth, and act with courage and justice, so that in all our works Thy will be done.

    Colonel Honner’s life of duty, like his prayer, offers an alternative way back for a political Right that is now lost. It is narrow path but it is a true path. It is a noble path. And it is one which, when followed, will not only improve Australia but may, even help redeem our politics. We who are conservatives should hope for, and demand, no less.

    Malcolm Turnbull, newly converted to Catholicism, addressed the Australian Christian Lobby and – far from praying – told them they had to accept the legitimacy of killing unborn children. If Colonel Honner was there, he would have punched him right in his smug face.

  29. Infidel Tiger

    I disagree with some of Gray’s points but he is 100% correct that conservatism is in crisis because there is nothing left to conserve.

    When families can’t afford housing and wages don’t grow, socialism and nihilism will fill that vacuum.

    Boomerism has destroyed the western world.

  30. Infidel Tiger

    Guns sportsman like Mundine don’t go out to lose. That’s ridiculous. He overestimated his ability,

    Don’t be an incredulous fool.

    Mundine got paid. He’s a smart dude. Cashed in on some tranny loving, man of the minute, cocksucking non-entity and brought home the bucks.

    Boxing is about getting paid.

  31. Ubique

    It’s a 1 December forum, but it’s still November here in WA.
    In Perth the average daily maximum for the month was 1.6 degrees less than the long term average. That’s a big deal when you consider trillions of dollars have been spent on the basis that the planet was supposed to have warmed by 0.7 of a degree in 100 years.

  32. Ubique

    Mundine worked for just 96 seconds before laying down on the job. Translated into an hourly rate of pay, his haul for a couple of minutes toil would be enough to give the women’s pay equality mob the screaming heebeejeebies.

  33. Rafe Champion

    You would have thought they would give the fans a bit more for their money.
    And made it less obvious as well!
    Les Darcy is rolling in his grave.

  34. Anthony

    Tony Abbott back on the front bench, even as far as PM?
    Or Bishop and her gang of Turnbull girls (literally and actually)?
    Is there a choice?

  35. struth

    Only western carbom causes climate change.
    Funny that.

  36. struth

    The liberal party are so chock full of ideological vacant career pollies that they believe left wing msm are a representative of Australian values and voter concerns.
    There isn’t a vote in it for them.
    They can lurch even further to the left and there still won’t be found a lefty who will vote for the liberals.
    Truth be known they just wanted the salary and perks and standing up for right wing values just makes the job harder than it has to be.
    They only do what keeps them in the seat to a point where it doesn’t get confrontational because the pension afterwards and continued benefits like their super means actually doing any good or having principles doesn’t weight up.

  37. Mater

    I watched the video of kids climate march yesterday so I asked my own about what they’ve done so far in terms of science (STEM).
    The closest I could come to relevant activities were:
    – Design a recycling program for the school (including daily audits of every bin),
    – Make a paper mâché rocket,
    – Create a replica moon buggy from a shoe box, and
    – Write a first hand account of what a bird experiences when it flys through the billowing emissions of a power generator chimney stack.

    Some of those skills are clearly relevant, but only to build signage upon which they could dutifully inscribe a teachers pithy slogan.

  38. rickw

    How big are your boobs?

    My guess is smaller than munty’s.

  39. Mater

    I’m bored.
    JC, get in here and lets rumble!

  40. struth

    Ah the liberal party claim to be a broad church.
    The church of anti western emissions.
    Their religious leader is the global socialist UN sec gen who has demanded a sacrifice………

  41. Shy Ted

    It’s OK to be a white boxer. Discuss.

  42. struth

    Sure it’s ok to be a white boxer.
    It’s ok to be a white black person of fluid sexuality.
    It’s just not ok if you are right wing and breathing.

  43. struth

    Now ask if it’s ok to be a white boxer and win………….

  44. GD

    Millennials are on the cusp of surpassing Baby Boomers as the nation’s largest living adult generation

    We are doomed!

  45. Atoms for Peace

    The Ali song, float like a butterfly etc, lasts over 3 minutes. Just saying….

  46. struth

    So the baby boomers are dying off?
    Who’d a thunk ut?

  47. Mater

    It’s OK to be a white boxer. Discuss.

    Ok, but it is as you would expect.

    Approximately 20 ‐ 25% of the boxers are white due to flashy to flashy boxer breeding. Because white is not a part of the breed standard, breeders used to euthanize perfectly healthy white puppies. The practice is changing and white boxers are placed in homes on a spay/neuter basis more and more.

  48. GD

    Miranda Devine thinks this is brilliant analysis which means it’s probably crap.

    It remains unclear, almost 100 days later, quite why Malcolm Turnbull was toppled.

    And there again you can see why the left just don’t get it.

  49. struth

    If you are an oped or any sort of writer claiming things are unclear, ask yourself why the hell should people read what you have to say.

  50. zyconoclast

    When I saw the clip of last nights boxing, it immediately reminded of this:

  51. hzhousewife

    I watched the video of kids climate march yesterday so I asked my own about what they’ve done so far in terms of science (STEM).
    The closest I could come to relevant activities were:
    – Design a recycling program for the school (including daily audits of every bin),
    – Make a paper mâché rocket,
    – Create a replica moon buggy from a shoe box, and
    – Write a first hand account of what a bird experiences when it flys through the billowing emissions of a power generator chimney stack.

    Some of those skills are clearly relevant, but only to build signage upon which they could dutifully inscribe a teachers pithy slogan.

    Compare and Contrast

  52. zyconoclast

    While Trump sleeps through the last 2 years

    EXCLUSIVE: FBI RAIDS HOME OF WHISTLEBLOWER ON CLINTON FOUNDATION, LAWYER SAYS

    -The FBI raided the home of a whistleblower who was in possession of documents regarding the Clinton Foundation and Uranium One, according to the whistleblower’s lawyer, Michael Socarras.
    -The whistleblower, Dennis Nathan Cain, had turned the documents over to the Department of Justice’s inspector general and both the House and Senate Intelligence committees, according to the lawyer.
    -The FBI rummaged through Cain’s home for six hours, even after the whistleblower handed over the documents, according to Socarras.

  53. 132andBush

    – Write a first hand account of what a bird experiences when it flys through the billowing emissions of a power generator chimney stack.

    Write a first hand account of what a bird experiences when it flies into the rotating blade of a wind turbine.

  54. struth

    As I predicted, barely a harsh word said about our untouchables.
    The radical Marxists in our schools brainwashing and sexually abusing our children.
    Even after they send children out to protest for them.

    This goes to show just how long this has been going on.

  55. Mark A

    132andBush
    #2876322, posted on December 1, 2018 at 6:35 am

    – Write a first hand account of what a bird experiences when it flys through the billowing emissions of a power generator chimney stack.

    Write a first hand account of what a bird experiences when it flies into the rotating blade of a wind turbine.

    Or across a mirror of a concentrating solar array.
    Locals say they are delicious, instant takeaway, no charge, just collect and eat.

  56. struth

    – Write a first hand account of what a bird experiences when it flys through the billowing emissions of a power generator chimney stack.

    A Chinese one producing power for factories that build solar panels for us?
    One powering electric cars?

    Really it’s all too stupid.
    Only western emissions cause climate change.

  57. Mater

    – Write a first hand account of what a bird experiences when it flys through the billowing emissions of a power generator chimney stack.

    The funny story behind that one is that only weeks prior, my kids and I found ourselves viewing one of these power stations on a cold morning. They asked why the ‘smoke’ disappeared after about 20 metres. I then had to explain that it was mainly steam and then revise the science behind freezing, condensation and evaporation with them.
    Upon being set this task, my young lad (quite innocently and with some excitement) stood up and regurgitated his recently acquired knowledge to the teacher and the class. He came home quite upset that Dad had apparently set him up for a fall.
    Maybe not so funny after all.

  58. struth

    Upon being set this task, my young lad (quite innocently and with some excitement) stood up and regurgitated his recently acquired knowledge to the teacher and the class. He came home quite upset that Dad had apparently set him up for a fall.
    Maybe not so funny after all.

    Whaddaya expect?

    Now sit down mister, we’ll have none of that talk here, this is a school after all,……… not a place to be educated.

  59. zyconoclast

    Grindr’s president and former CTO Scott Chen wrote a comment on his personal Facebook page saying that he believed that marriage was only meant to be between a man and a woman, several sources from within Grindr told INTO.
    On November 26, Chen shared an INTO article on his page about Cher Wang, the president and CEO of HTC, whose non-profits backed anti-LGBTQ U.S.-based groups organizing to influence Taiwan’s referendum on same-sex marriage. Citizens ended up voting to ban same-sex marriage; they also opted to remove LGBTQ-inclusive curricula in schools and include a non-marriage option for same-sex couples.
    Chen shared the article about Wang on his public page, which led to several people commenting underneath. In a subsequent comment, captured in a screenshot and translated by an independent translator for INTO, Chen wrote:
    There are people who believe that marriage is a holy matrimony between a man and a woman. I agree but that’s none of our business. There are also people who believe that the purpose of marriage is to create children that carry their DNA. That’s also none of our business. There are people that are simply different from you, who desperately want to get married. They have their own reasons.”

    Then subsequently wrote that marriage is a “personal issue” and said that he wished people wouldn’t donate to anti-LGBTQ causes and instead “donate your money to places that are in dire hunger, poverty, or suffering from war? Why spend all that money to stop people who love each other from getting married? Aren’t there more important stuff in life?”
    He ended the post by saying, “I’ll never buy HTC products ever again, and I’ll never donate a cent to any Christian groups in Taiwan!”

  60. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Earlier comment in moderation – the front page of the Oz is running with four year old preschoolers at a kindergarten, holding up signs about children in detention on Nauru. I don’t know how to link to a picture, can someone oblige?

  61. Mark A

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2876334, posted on December 1, 2018 at 7:15 am

    Earlier comment in moderation – the front page of the Oz is running with four year old preschoolers at a kindergarten, holding up signs about children in detention on Nauru. I don’t know how to link to a picture, can someone oblige?

    If no other way, save the pic. and use one of the picture posting apps.
    Google them, they are free.

  62. Atoms for Peace

    Write a first hand account of a bird flying through a wind turbine…

  63. notafan

    Darn it my link is broken

  64. Mark A

    An example

    I have no access to the OZ, not that I want to, mind.

  65. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Photo: four-year-olds play pre-school politics on refugees

    Thanks BoN – the Oz also names the teacher – good luck finding another post.

  66. zyconoclast

    Louisiana School Made Headlines for Sending Black Kids to Elite Colleges. Here’s the Reality.

    In reality, the school falsified transcripts, made up student accomplishments and mined the worst stereotypes of black America to manufacture up-from-hardship tales that it sold to Ivy League schools hungry for diversity. The Landrys also fostered a culture of fear with physical and emotional abuse, students and teachers said. Students were forced to kneel on rice, rocks and hot pavement, and were choked, yelled at and berated.

  67. Mark A

    Arky, I received a link to your original video again.
    Maybe I was wrong and the banning had nothing to do with content but something else?
    Time will tell.

    Still a stupid bird.
    Doesn’t she know about climate change and the hothouse effect?
    Not to mention renting a room at Arky’s?
    Him, with his skillet and pans ready? I call that optimistic, by both parties.

  68. zyconoclast

    New Jersey announces new rules to limit police cooperation with ICE

    State Attorney General Gurbir Grewal announced the new directive at the historic rail terminal at Liberty State Park, an entry point for millions of immigrants.

  69. Bruce of Newcastle

    1. Put the words of the story summary in Google search, the story then is the top link
    2. Click the images tab, the picture from the story comes up
    3. Click on the photo you want, it comes up full size
    4. Right click on the full sized photo
    5. Choose ‘properties’
    6. Block copy the url from the properties pop up
    7. Press ctl-c to copy it to the clipboard
    8. Open a new browser tab and paste the url into the address line (or paste it into a Cat comment)
    9. Yay, photo!

    After you do it a few times it becomes easy. This is the IE browser way on PC. In Brave you right click on the photo and choose ‘open image in new tab’. Then you can copy the url from the address bar and paste it into a Cat comment.

    Unfortunately DDG isn’t good enough to find the photo that goes with the story, even though it gets the paywalled story OK. So you have to use Goolag.

  70. bespoke

    DG posted this on the old thread.
    What can we do?

  71. None

    Mater I’d be seriously considering changing schools

  72. zyconoclast

    #RemovalOfWhiteDolls campaign gains momentum

    Durban – Black Centric Forum is on a mission to remove white dolls from toy shelves across the country.

    The organisation has called on supermarkets to remove the dolls from their shelves as they believed African children who played with white dolls did not embrace themselves as freely as they should.

  73. Mark A

    God I must be demented, I’m warching his video, nothing’s happening some boid noises, then family squabble, (unintelligable) .
    The bird looks smart and doesn’t sit still, it’s fascinating to watch in a weird way, like watching concrete dry.
    Not paint, that makes sense, some make money out of that, hey Winston?

  74. Mater

    Mater I’d be seriously considering changing schools

    They’re all doing it, None. It is inescapable.
    Our current school is one of the better ones, they didn’t participate in the march.

  75. Bruce of Newcastle

    like watching concrete dry

    More interesting when they hatch. Then Arky’s greenhouse will be like Sydney Airport on a Monday morning.

    My kooka’s eggs appear to have hatched. Dad kooka arrived with a small worm which he proceeded to soften up into a sort of wet string, before popping into the nest box and poking around. Then he came out, flew down and landed on the fence next to me, accepted a shred of mince meat and flew back up to the nest. Beef and earthworm tartare!

  76. mh

    Tyson vs Spinks (above) was a Donald Trump promotion.

  77. Mark A

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2876363, posted on December 1, 2018 at 8:09 am

    More interesting when they hatch. Then Arky’s greenhouse will be like Sydney Airport on a Monday morning.

    What was interesting is, that I had imagined the bird would sit still on her eggs, nothing of the sort.
    In the short time of the recording it was listening to outside bird noises, rearranged the eggs several times fluffed her feathers, you name it, short of reading a book she’s done everything.

  78. Baldrick

    the Oz also names the teacher – good luck finding another post.

    Don’t be silly. She’ll be pre-selected by the Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party into Julia Bank’s seat.

  79. Empire D5

    zyconoclast
    #2876320, posted on December 1, 2018 at 6:33 am
    While Trump sleeps through the last 2 years

    What if the documents in possession of the House and Senate Intel committees are not the same as the docs Cain provided to the IG agent?

  80. Empire 5:5

    zyconoclast
    #2876320, posted on December 1, 2018 at 6:33 am
    While Trump sleeps through the last 2 years

    What if the documents in possession of the House and Senate Intel committees are not the same as the docs Cain provided to the IG agent?

  81. Mark A

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2876363, posted on December 1, 2018 at 8:09 am

    More interesting when they hatch. Then Arky’s greenhouse will be like Sydney Airport on a Monday morning.

    I think you are not wrong there, it’s gonna beat the Model A to a distant last.
    Admit, got a conflict now, my brain goes for the Model A, but my heart is captured by a stupid bird.

    It’s going to be a super hit for Arky.
    (it they last the distance, he looks like starving)

  82. mh

    Scott Morrison gets a good job review:

    Donald Trump thanks Scott Morrison for backing on Iran

    …He suggested Mr Morrison had stepped up where Mr Turnbull had not and, as a consequence, was now prime minister.

    “I know you’ve done a fantastic job in a very short period of time,” Mr Trump said in their first face-to-face meeting.

    “You’ve done a lot of the things that they’ve wanted over there and that’s why you’re sitting right here.

    “Just getting to know each other and so far so good, I think it’s going to be a great relationship,” Mr Trump said.

    Although Australia is not a party to the Iran nuclear deal, he is reviewing whether Australia should follow Mr Trump’s lead and withdraw its support for the arrangement. Mr Trump thanked him for this….

  83. Leigh Lowe

    Went to bed early.
    Going to get set after lunch with a six-pack and snacks to watch a replay of the Big Fight.
    I am expecting ten rounds of ballroom dancing with Horn landing enough point scorers to win easily on points.

  84. Baldrick

    A shandy in a seven is all you’ll need.

  85. mh

    You won’t be disappointed LL.

    One for the ages.

  86. Leigh Lowe

    Didn’t go the distance, Balders?
    Did someone hit the deck as soon as the Foxtel cheque cleared?

  87. EvilElvis

    Only seen that Twitter clip of HornyChoc18, the commentator is carrying on about body shots and it seems the kidney punch before the non existent left hook to chin had done the damage. He went down sore not punch drunk. 2 cents.

  88. Empire 5:5

    The shamelessly syndicated McClatchy report from April, proven to be fake news.

    This is why Cohen’s Trump Tower Moscow plea agreement with Mueller is important for the dossier: The plea shows that Mueller closely scrutinized everything Cohen told Congress. And it has long been clear that Mueller and his team are not shy about charging Trump-Russia figures with making false statements. It’s also clear that Mueller found evidence that specific assertions in Cohen’s statements to Congress were false — the ones concerning Trump Tower Moscow — and that he charged Cohen with lying. So if Mueller had evidence that Cohen’s definitive denial of the Prague story, in the same document, was false, it seems reasonable to conclude that Mueller would have charged Cohen for it. Yet in the charges against Cohen, Mueller said absolutely nothing about Prague.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/byron-york-remember-prague-in-michael-cohen-plea-deal-mueller-says-nothing-about-key-collusion-charge

  89. Mark A

    Mater
    #2876362, posted on December 1, 2018 at 8:05 am

    Mater I’d be seriously considering changing schools

    They’re all doing it, None. It is inescapable.
    Our current school is one of the better ones, they didn’t participate in the march.

    One thing I agree with Notafan wholeheartedly, even if drawing hostile fire.
    It all starts in the family.

    Not in the way most of you think but in a different more exclusive way.
    Not going into it in detail, would definitely draw hostile fire, but it worked for many centuries for others and worked for us.

    But you have to start early and be consistent, children have the best BS detectors!!

  90. Mater

    One thing I agree with Notafan wholeheartedly, even if drawing hostile fire.
    It all starts in the family.

    I agree, Mark. I educate my children and try to stimulate their curiosity at every opportunity. That is, ironically, what got my lad into a spot of bother.
    That said, I’ll not be changing my ways because they don’t conform. They’ll thank me later but for now I have a responsibility.

  91. Mark A

    Running the risk of becoming a bore posting about Arky’s bird video, (so! what’s new).
    They canned the original again but posted the latest tame version.

    Meaning I was right, they object to implied violence, no matter how contrived and farcical that may be.
    They take it at face value.
    Heaven save us, bc. nothing else will.

  92. C.L.

    Mom Dresses Six-Year-Old Son As Girl, Threatens Dad With Losing His Son For Disagreeing

    A high percentage of “gender identity” swaps are, I believe, proxy vendettas against estranged husbands conducted by their lunatic ex-wives. It’s ersatz castration for the sons and vengeful ruination of daddy’s little girl for the daughters. These women are evil psychopaths and should be imprisoned.

  93. C.L.

    A day after the Duke of Wrong – Monty – declared Cohen a smoking gun, the central claim about his ‘testimony’ falls to pieces hilariously.

  94. Mark A

    Mater
    #2876381, posted on December 1, 2018 at 8:46 am

    I agree, Mark. I educate my children and try to stimulate their curiosity at every opportunity. That is, ironically, what got my lad into a spot of bother.

    That’s where the other bit comes into it, we-you are special don’t tell anyone etc…
    Keep what we discuss to yourself and nod to what your teacher tells you, you’d be surprised how receptive children can be.

    That is why teachers have so much power over your children, if you don’t step in first.

    On a sober note, how many parents bother?

  95. OldOzzie

    Four-year-olds play pre-school politics on refugees

    A Melbourne preschool has ­decided that children are never too young to embrace political ­advocacy, incorporating a recent Kids Off Nauru campaign into a lesson on refugee rights.

    Brunswick Kindergarten, in the city’s inner north, broached the contentious topic by hosting a #BlueForNauru Day in which its children, aged four and five, were encouraged to dress in blue — ­signifying sadness, according to the campaign — to learn about the plight of children in offshore detention.

    Teacher Catherine Sundbye wrote about the session in the preschool’s parent newsletter, ­detailing some of the student’s ­responses to the question: “What would you say to the politicians who won’t let the refugees in?”

    “You are mean to the guys that can’t come and live here”, “Why aren’t they allowed in Australia? I don’t think they will destroy the country”, and “I don’t like this rule” were among the comments from the children.

    Parents were advised before the session was held and were supportive of the event.

    “Kids really do understand more than we given them credit for,” one parent said.

    However, childhood experts warned about politicising early childhood, questioning whether children as young as four had the ­maturity to grasp the concept of asylum detention.

    Political activism in schools is considered a fraught issue. Yesterday, thousands of students defied calls by Scott Morrison to remain in school and instead joined protests calling for climate change ­action.

    Co-ordinated rallies were held in almost 30 cities and towns around Australia, which included all state capitals as well as large ­regional centres such as Ballarat and Newcastle.

    Some children wore rebukes from the Prime Minister with pride as they went to Martin Place in Sydney armed with placards and smartphones.

    The Kids Off Nauru campaign — an initiative of World Vision Australia whose ambassadors ­include former Human Rights Commissioner Gillian Triggs, previous Australian of the Year Simon McKeon and ACTU ­president Michele O’Neil — had called for Australians to “go blue” in the lead-up to Universal ­Children’s Day on November 20 “in solidarity with the children and families our nation has trapped on Nauru”.

    “Blue can symbolise sadness and depression — which is appropriate given the suffering these people are enduring in our name,” the campaign’s website says.

    Ms Sundbye learnt about #BlueForNauru through a primary school and said she broached the idea of introducing the concept at the kindergarten with parents first.

    “It was important to approach it so that the parents are OK and the kids are OK,” Ms Sundbye said. “It’s not about running a scare campaign.”

    She said children were read the Mem Fox book, I’m Australian Too, which presents a child waiting in a refugee camp hoping that one day “I will be Australian too”.

    Ms Sundbye said the discussion that followed revealed that most children were clear in their view that the current situation did not seem fair.

    “That was beautiful to see: how they got it on a deep level,” the teacher said.

    “It’s never too early to get them to be part of the conversation. This is their world, their planet.”

    Melbourne Graduate School of Education early childhood expert Kay Margetts questioned whether such young children had the ­maturity to grasp the concept.

    “I don’t think what that teacher was doing was wrong, or that it could have damaged the children in any way, but it’s asking them to consider quite a developmentally advanced concept for children of that age,” Professor Margetts said.

    “Kids very much see things through their own experience, their real-life experience. That’s why issues involving social justice are usually broached from the child’s personal and ­immediate experience … to teach about things like fairness, sharing and taking turns.”

    Child psychologist Michael Carr Gregg questioned the need for political content to be broached in schools or preschools.

    “I don’t think we should further dilute the curriculum with this ­information which is rightly the province of parents,” he said.

    Centre for Independent Studies senior research fellow Jeremy Sammut said the situation was a concern and potentially risked “the emotions of impressionable children who can have no real understanding of the issues ­involved”.

    Kindergarten parent Kate Rowett was pleased to see the issue tackled at the kindergarten.

    She said her son Walter was familiar with the issue already as the family had made donations to the Asylum Seeker Resource ­Centre.

    “We’ve talked about why we do that and I think kids really do understand more than we given them credit for,” Ms Rowett said.

    “We talk about a range of issues and are generally trying to raise empathetic children.”

  96. lotocoti

    like watching concrete dry

    Suck out a little chroma, crush the blacks a bit and add some sensitive scoring.

  97. John Constantine

    https://www.ownerdriver.com.au/industry-news/1811/interstate-trucks-with-damaged-number-plates-pinged-as-unregistered

    Safe trucks means every driver is obliged to make sure that his number plates are displayed in a condition that proves to the states robots the truck is registered.

    Dirty or damaged plates are fined as if the truck is unregistered, hard on an owner driver, nothing to a big truck firm.

    Now fourteen days to clean the plates, but not fourteen days from the notice arriving in the mail [ if you drive interstate as an ownerdriver you dont get to open your mail at home everyday] it is fourteen days from the photo being taken.

    Safe trucks means displaying your compliance eternally as number one importance.

    Comrades.

  98. John Constantine

    Technically, if you drive on dodgy dirt or gravel roads you are obliged to stop and wash your number plates before driving on the good road into town, so the robots can do it easy.

  99. John Constantine

    The brave victorian Stalinist indoctrination teacher is now in the running for victorian of the year.

  100. Senile Old Guy

    The Kids Off Nauru campaign — an initiative of World Vision Australia whose ambassadors ­include former Human Rights Commissioner Gillian Triggs, previous Australian of the Year Simon McKeon and ACTU ­president Michele O’Neil — had called for Australians to “go blue” in the lead-up to Universal ­Children’s Day on November 20 “in solidarity with the children and families our nation has trapped on Nauru”.

    They trapped themselves. They knew what they were doing was wrong but they tried to get here illegally anyway. And their rejection of the US for Australia shows its all about welfare.

  101. zyconoclast

    ‘Winning can’t be a dirty word’: Winning with dignity the Langer way

    There is winning.

    Winning with dignity is called losing.

    Like setting up failure with rules of engagement.

  102. Rae

    Boyd Cordner move over. With a dive like that Choc could be the next captain of the NSW Blues.

  103. zyconoclast

    Charged With Discrimination: A group of city councilmembers moves to ban some “cashless” establishments, arguing that they are racist.

    Torres, who represents the Fordham Road and Tremont sections of the Bronx, says that “a cashless business model . . . will have the effect of excluding lower-income communities of color from what should be an open and free market.” The very poor are “unbanked,” he says, and disproportionately black and Latino; thus, cashless businesses are demonstrably discriminatory against them. “No matter what the intention was,” explains Torres, “its effect is discriminatory.”

  104. bespoke

    Mark A
    #2876385, posted on December 1, 2018 at 8:55 am

    On a sober note, how many parents bother?

    I didn’t no home schooling was even possible until way after my kids left. I had to pick my battles like when my youngest defended his friends being physically harassed and getting equal punishment. Try standing inline with obnoxious parents defending there obnoxious entitled kids.

  105. cohenite

    My missus and me have better stoushes than that choc/Horn stink. Choc should now move to Nauru where he can instruct the malingerers up there how to fake injury.

  106. Nick

    Strange, a rationale for having SSM was all of the scared and suicidal youth out there, yet Lefties think nothing about needlessly scaring 4 year olds over climate change and refugees.

  107. stackja

    Coalition crisis as NSW heads for hung parliament
    Anna Caldwell, The Daily Telegraph
    December 1, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    Support has collapsed for Premier Gladys Berejiklian’s government, with NSW facing the prospect of a hung parliament in a poll result that will send shockwaves through the state Coalition.

    An exclusive YouGov Galaxy poll conducted for The Saturday Telegraph shows new Labor leader Michael Daley’s party leading the government 52 per cent to 48 on a two party preferred basis.

    George Street light rail.

  108. stackja

    CFMMEU mining division posts $3.2 million loss
    Des Houghton, The Courier-Mail
    December 1, 2018 1:00am
    Subscriber only

    THE mining division of the militant CFMMEU in Queensland posted a $3.23 million deficit last financial year.

    The union said the loss was due in part to the “prolonged industrial dispute” at Glencore’s Oaky North coalmine at Tieri in central Queensland.

    It dragged on for nine months and achieved little. The union’s annual report revealed $1,479,200 was paid “in hardship support payments to members in accordance with union rules”.

    In all, 245 miners were involved in a stoppage and a lockout at the mine.

    There were bitter exchanges between picketing unionists and the contractors engaged to replace them.

    In a Fair Work Commission hearing earlier this year, a mine manager accused union chiefs of intimidation for allegedly shouting the words “f—king grub”, “f—king scab” and “f—king maggot” to passing vehicles.

    Deputy Commissioner Ingrid Asbury heard there was a range of other of offensive comments, including “grub’’, “f—king grub”, “scab”, “f—king scab”, “once a scab always a scab”, “f—king dogs”, “c–khead”, “dickhead”, “prick”, “c—”, “maggot”, and “go hang yourself”.

    Federal Opposition Leader Bill Shorten was criticised for secretly visiting the picket last year.

    The unionists eventually returned to work.

  109. H B Bear

    George Street light rail.

    Yep. Hard to go to an election arguing the Lieborals are better economic managers with that stinking albatross hanging around your neck.

  110. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2876403, posted on December 1, 2018 at 9:38 am

    Meanwhile Mike Baird?

  111. stackja

    I went to sleep before ‘The Man’.

  112. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Four-year-olds play pre-school politics on refugees

    Two hundred comments on that article – none supportive of the school or teacher – have just gone down the “memory hole.”

  113. Mark A

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2876407, posted on December 1, 2018 at 9:45 am

    Four-year-olds play pre-school politics on refugees

    My and other’s point precisely Zulu, if the teachers can do it, why didn’t the parents who disagree with the doctrine got in first?

    No use complaining after the fact.

  114. Percy Popinjay

    Support has collapsed for Premier Beryl Gladyschlocklian’s government, with NSW facing the prospect of a hung parliament in a poll result that will send schlockwaves through the state Coalition.

    How many times do these irredeemable imbeciles need to be told that implementing labor and the greenfilth’s polices for them is not a winning strategy? Not enough times at the ballot box, it seems.

  115. John Constantine

    Total fire ban today, no heat sources to be run in paddocks.

    Might get to work through my recredditation to run livestock through the national livestock group think scheme.

    New units for bio security and animal rights.

    Comrades.

  116. Myrddin Seren

    Mom Dresses Six-Year-Old Son As Girl, Threatens Dad With Losing His Son For Disagreeing

    From CL:

    A high percentage of “gender identity” swaps are, I believe, proxy vendettas against estranged husbands conducted by their lunatic ex-wives. It’s ersatz castration for the sons and vengeful ruination of daddy’s little girl for the daughters. These women are evil psychopaths and should be imprisoned.

    My thoughts exactly.

    Rather than going postal and slicing the kid’s throat, they are going to ‘gender transition therapists’ – who unsurprisingly can see nothing but gender transition, $$ and PC politics.

    The Federalist article has a court paper which mentions the mother’s name.

    Type that name in and the first hit – other than articles on this – is:

    http://www.drannemd.com/

    Could this possibly be the same person – a paediatrician FFS ?!

    Texas address – one tick.

    Back to The Federalist.

    When his mother, a pediatrician, took James for counseling, she chose a gender transition therapist….

    OMG. She isn’t some ‘Happy Valley’ hippy. She is a kid quack !

    I can see the bitter divorces piling up –

    ‘I am taking Zim to see Dr Anne’.

    ‘Over my dead body are you taking Zack to that loon !’

    One suspects that The Next Big Thing in Feminism will be transitioning any sons unfortunate enough to actually make it through full term and be delivered to these people.

  117. stackja

    Families flee New South Wales for better state of living
    ROSE BRENNAN, The Daily Telegraph
    15 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    The cost of housing is forcing droves of young families out of NSW to raise their children interstate.

    This “parent-drain” is clear in the latest Australian Bureau of Statistics data that reveals the majority of people abandoning Sydney are aged in their 30s and children.

    While overseas migration into NSW is increasing, so too is the number of residents leaving. This population change — called “interstate outflow” — has jumped 201 per cent in NSW since 2015.

    NSW records an average annual loss of 13,539 people. In 2015 just 6800 people left for other states, while in 2017 that figure hit 15,200.

    The figures show NSW residents are flocking to Victoria, which gains 7193 people on average each year, and Queensland which gains about 11,067 people.

  118. Myrddin Seren

    Moderated AGAIN. Second attempt

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Mom Dresses Six-Year-Old Son As Girl, Threatens Dad With Losing His Son For Disagreeing

    From CL:

    A high percentage of “gender identity” swaps are, I believe, proxy vendettas against estranged husbands conducted by their lunatic ex-wives. It’s ersatz castration for the sons and vengeful ruination of daddy’s little girl for the daughters. These women are evil psychopaths and should be imprisoned.

    My thoughts exactly.

    Rather than going postal and slicing the kid’s throat, they are going to ‘gender transition therapists’ – who unsurprisingly can see nothing but gender transition, $$ and PC politics.

    The Federalist article has a court paper which mentions the mother’s name.

    Type that name in and the first hit – other than articles on this – is:

    http://www.drannemd.com/

    Could this possibly be the same person – a [email protected] FFS ?!

    Texas address – one tick.

    Back to The Federalist.

    When his mother, a [email protected], took James for counseling, she chose a gender transition therapist….

    OMG. She isn’t some ‘Happy Valley’ hippy. She is a kid quack !

    I can see the bitter divorces piling up with her other clients–

    I am taking Zim to see Dr Anne’.

    Over my dead body are you taking Zack to that loon !

    One suspects that The Next Big Thing in Feminism will be transitioning any sons unfortunate enough to actually make it through full term and be delivered to these people.

  119. Snoopy

    So if Mueller had evidence that Cohen’s definitive denial of the Prague story, in the same document, was false, it seems reasonable to conclude that Mueller would have charged Cohen for it. Yet in the charges against Cohen, Mueller said absolutely nothing about Prague.

    Monty? Helloo?

  120. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My and other’s point precisely Zulu, if the teachers can do it, why didn’t the parents who disagree with the doctrine got in first?

    The article cites the kindergarten as being in Brunswick, in Melbourne’s inner North – can Melbourne Cats advise of the demographics? – and parents of being supportive of the activity.

    Best comment was to suggest that the children at the kindergarten ask Santa to send all their Christmas presents to the poor little kiddies on Nauru..

  121. stackja

    Investigation continues into road-rage stabbing – Glendenning

    Saturday, 01 December 2018 02:01:59 AM

    Police continue to appeal for witnesses and anyone with dashcam vision following a road-rage related stabbing in Sydney’s west yesterday.

    About 4.30pm (Friday 30 November 2018), a 42-year-old man was driving his Toyota Hilux on Richmond Road, Glendenning, when he drove onto the southbound lanes of the M7 motorway.

    A short time later, the driver of an orange coloured Toyota Corolla threw something at his vehicle.

    The two vehicles came to a stop and the drivers confronted each other. The driver of the Corolla produced a knife and stabbed the Hilux driver to his abdomen.

    The man then got back into the Corolla and drove off at high speed in a southbound direction on the M7.

    The victim got back in his vehicle and attempted to drive to Blacktown Hospital. His passenger contacted Triple Zero on the way to hospital, and they stopped on Bungarribee Road, Doonside, until the arrival of an ambulance.

    He was taken to Westmead Hospital for emergency surgery and is now understood to be in a stable condition.

    Officers from Mt Druitt Police Area Command have commenced inquiries into the incident.

    The driver of the Corolla has been described as Mediterranean/Middle Eastern appearance, about 20 years old, chubby build, short in height, and he was wearing a high-vis shirt.

    Police are appealing for any witnesses, or anyone who may have dashcam vision that may depict the incident, or the offender’s vehicle, to come forward.

  122. Mater

    The article cites the kindergarten as being in Brunswick, in Melbourne’s inner North – can Melbourne Cats advise of the demographics? – and parents of being supportive of the activity.

    They’d generally be very supportive. I doubt the teachers needed to put much effort in.

  123. Myrddin Seren

    Ah Ha !

    t h e r a p i s t

    is the Secret Word.

    My God – it is like trying to crack the Japanese naval codes to ensure compliance with the Filter.

  124. Rae

    Shouldn’t be too harsh on Choc. His professional boxing career speaks for itself:

    57 fights for 48 wins and only 9 losses

  125. cohenite

    Two hundred comments on that article – none supportive of the school or teacher – have just gone down the “memory hole.”

    Which article?

  126. Myrddin Seren

    Moderation Filter Understood.

    Third attempt – regrets for redundancy

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Mom Dresses Six-Year-Old Son As Girl, Threatens Dad With Losing His Son For Disagreeing

    From CL:

    A high percentage of “gender identity” swaps are, I believe, proxy vendettas against estranged husbands conducted by their lunatic ex-wives. It’s ersatz castration for the sons and vengeful ruination of daddy’s little girl for the daughters. These women are evil psychopaths and should be imprisoned.

    My thoughts exactly.

    Rather than going postal and slicing the kid’s throat, they are going to ‘gender transition t-h-e-r-a-p-i-s-t-s’ – who unsurprisingly can see nothing but gender transition, $$ and PC politics.

    The Federalist article has a court paper which mentions the mother’s name.

    Type that name in and the first hit – other than articles on this – is:

    http://www.drannemd.com/

    Could this possibly be the same person – a [email protected] FFS ?!

    Texas address – one tick.

    Back to The Federalist.

    When his mother, a [email protected], took James for counseling, she chose a gender transition t-h-e-r-a-p-i-s-t….

    OMG. She isn’t some ‘Happy Valley’ hippy. She is a kid quack !

    I can see the bitter divorces piling up with her other clients–

    I am taking Zim to see Dr Anne’.

    Over my dead body are you taking Zack to that loon !’

    One suspects that The Next Big Thing in Feminism will be transitioning any sons unfortunate enough to actually make it through full term and be delivered to these people.

  127. Caveman

    Political activism in schools is considered a fraught issue

    Political pedophilla

  128. lotocoti

    Four-year-olds play pre-school politics on refugees

    Yesterday some teeny lay the Syrian civil war on the altar of globalclimatewarmingchange.
    And why would some child spout such nonsense in public?
    Because no one wants to be seen as a monster.
    No one wants to make some ten year old cry by telling her that’s bullshit and whomever told you that is either an imbecile or a liar.
    (PS: Another shout out for the Cat on 2GB.)

  129. Might get to work through my recredditation to run livestock through the national livestock group think scheme.

    New units for bio security and animal rights.

    Comrades.

    Surprisingly lacklustre sale at Wycheproof yesterday.
    Lots of good merino whether lambs going for $50 and below with first cross ewes and lambs to be had a $200 and below.
    The buyers who were looking for a big lift of fat lamb breeders had a great day.
    Merino ewes couldn’t make $200 except for a run of Wallaloo young ewes at $300.
    You know the type John.
    I had no intention of buying but a pen of Merino/Suffolk lambs at $95 was too much for me to resist.
    Currently sitting in the ute and watching as they learn how to drink from a trough.

  130. Bruce of Newcastle

    t h e r a p i s t
    is the Secret Word.

    Myrddin – If you ever have a b a l l s-up in s c u n t h o r p e and have to go to a p h y s i o t h e r a p i s t be careful of your s p e l l i n g.

  131. Infidel Tiger

    UPDATE: Amber Guyger, the Dallas cop who shot an unarmed black man in his own apartment in September, has been indicted for murder.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1068600842553606149

    Excellent news. Give her the chair.

  132. stackja

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2876420, posted on December 1, 2018 at 10:02 am

    Brunswick, Victoria
    From Wikipedia

    Demographics: The most common ancestries were English 20.8%, Australian 16.1%, Irish 10.8%, Italian 7.7% and Scottish 7.3%.
    61.4% of people were born in Australia. The next most common countries of birth were Italy 3.4%, England 3.2%, New Zealand 3.1%, Greece 2.8% and China 2.3%.
    65.8% of people spoke only English at home. Other languages spoken at home included Italian 5.4%, Greek 4.9%, Mandarin 2.6%, Arabic 2.3% and Nepali 1.4%.
    The most common responses for religion were No Religion 50.1% and Catholic 16.9%
    Politics: Greens

  133. Gab

    UPDATE: Amber Guyger, the Dallas cop who shot an unarmed black man in his own apartment in September, has been indicted for murder.

    Whatever happened to the muslim black cop who shot an unarmed Australian women Justine Damond after she called the cops for help?

  134. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Two hundred comments on that article – none supportive of the school or teacher – have just gone down the “memory hole.”

    Which article?

    The article from the Oz about four year old children, in a Melbourne kindergarten, holding up signs regarding children on Nauru.

  135. Bruce of Newcastle

    Give her the chair.

    Can’t do that. Minnesota might then have to execute nice Mr Noor.
    Incidentally old sparky is increasingly popular with a certain class of people.

    Tennessee death row inmate 2nd to choose electric chair over lethal injection in state (28 Nov)

    Maybe they are squeamish about needles.

  136. cohenite

    It’s no surprise that students are indoctrinated by teachers

    Kevin Donnelly, The Daily Telegraph November 30, 2018

    It beggars belief that children as young as 8, 10 and 11 are now climate change experts and are striking to protest against the Commonwealth government’s supposed failure to stop man-made global warming. Instead of being in class learning about what constitutes evidence-based research and that the science is far from settled, students are calling on the government to stop the Adani coal mine and go to 100 per cent renewable energy — represented by unreliable and costly wind and solar power.

    That students have been indoctrinated by teachers to mimic deep green alarmism should not surprise.

    Since schools embraced Al Gore’s fake science about the impending disaster caused by global warming in 2006 students have been given a steady diet of propaganda.

    That the national curriculum mandates sustainability and the environment as one of the three cross-curriculum priorities further explains why students are so biased and uniformed.

    One student wrote about the strike: “In school, we have seen the raw truth of climate change; videos of our dead and dying Great Barrier Reef, increasingly shocking statistics, forecasts of a worrying future.”

    Another student aged 10 argues: “Australia must take action on climate change now before more species become extinct”, while another is terrified that “whole islands will disappear”.

    The reality is that education is no longer objective and impartial.

    Politically correct activists are happy to argue teachers have every right to inflict their personal political viewpoints on students.

    And the Australian Education Union also endorses classroom political activism, best illustrated by its call at the start of the 2003 war against Iraq where it urged teachers to “take action in your workplace and community” and to “Support students who take an anti-war stance”.

    Dr Kevin Donnelly is the author of How Political Correctness Is Destroying Education.

    All on the watch of the conservatives.

  137. stackja

    Regarding Federalist article:

    Pediatrician Michelle Cretella, executive director of the American College of Pediatricians, describes the pediatric community’s encouragement of sex change and hormonal treatments for children as “institutionalized child abuse.”

    Future lawfare?

  138. John Constantine

    The Stock and Land video interview on the victorian sheep sale yesterday was interesting Wyche tends to be used as an open auction indication for vicco restocker sheep prices. the auctioneer revealed that branch support from the vicco south west and south australian south east had evaporated, which does show us that competition from the grass rich clients these branches delivered last month had a big impact on the prices achieved back then.

    Running a successful live auction in these days of weekly electronic auctionsplus takes a lot of work, and basically needs the highest quality market setting pens to be more or less sold before the sale opens and for sellers to supply the auctioneers with reserves that they can confidently call bids up to.

    As long as buyers can confidently bid on the quality stock displayed live in the pens i have no problem with the sellers putting reserve prices on good sheep so they dont go too cheap.

    The current downwards pressure on wool and lamb prices has delivered yesterdays prices, but the indicated rise in pricing for the new year contracts almost locks in a margin for january delivery.

    I delivered a load of finished lambs to the works this week and did a circuit to pick up some breeders to replace them with i had purchased earlier. Buying and selling on the same off the pace market means if the changeover is acceptable the headline price isn’t that important.

    When your only client that matters is the peoples liberation army though, it means as much as abandoning cropping for wool is the way to go on current numbers, there still needs to be a plan B just in case. [ plan b can’t be barley though……]

  139. Roger

    Victorian Liberal Wets resoundingly rejected.

    NSW Liberal Party in crisis.

    Federal parliamentary Liberal Party destroying itself.

    And Mundine knocked out in 1st round.

    Good times!

  140. Yes Roger. The Vik Libs were a bit like Mundine’s knockout.

    Fainted at the first challenge.

  141. Old School Conservative

    A tweet .
    Actress and Broadway star Bette Midler fantasized about President Donald Trump and his family being hanged “good and high” in a pro-Robert Mueller social media post Friday. (Breitbart)

    Bette of course in no way is advocating actual hanging, just hanging-hanging.
    No real threats of violence against the President in this statement.
    Just a joke about hanging the whole family.
    Naturally no-one in their right mind would actually imagine the bodies of the president’s son and wife twitching around in death spasms.

    Well, that would be the narrative of Twitter and Midler in justifying her hate speech.

  142. Clearly the NSW Libs need to move further to the left!

    Just so there is some distance between them and Stalin.

  143. Myrddin Seren

    That students have been indoctrinated by teachers to mimic deep green alarmism should not surprise.

    I have an uncomfortable feeling that the perpetually-wrong Ehrlichs and the overpopulation boogey is about to join the Long March through the Australian education machine.

    Gen Alpha will probably wind up cheerily loading ageing grandparents and denounced parents in to transports to the Soylent Green Re-education Archipelago – from which surprisingly no one will ever be successfully ‘re-educated’ and come back.

    Australians are like eco-Pavlov’s Dogs. Preface anything with ‘In order to save the Planet…’, and nothing is too extreme.

  144. struth

    Just to make sure my position is clear.
    I thoroughly believe it is up to the parents to ensure that their children aren’t brainwashed by the Marxists in the education sector.
    I did that myself.
    However telling them to just agree with communists, or just stay quiet, just don’t let them brainwash you, and your children seeing you not go down to confront the school, sends totally the wrong message.
    I would suggest this level of non confrontational typical Australian approach is what got us into this mess.

    You cannot rely on your vote changing things, for our whole political system has been corrupted.
    Primarily because like typical Australians we just let it build up and build up.
    Teaching your children, by example, to “just put up with it” , by noticing you not confronting Marxism, is precisely how it wins.
    The difference in culture to us and the United States goes to this.
    The Americans see a wrong and decide to fight it.
    We see a wrong and decide to go around it.
    Eventually the wrong gets to big to get around.
    We should have just got rid of that wrong in the first place.

  145. Dr Faustus

    Shouldn’t be too harsh on Choc. His professional boxing career speaks for itself:

    It does. He should have retired three or four years ago.

  146. Scene: Greens point gun at themselves.

    Greens: “Nobody move or the planet get’s it.”

  147. H B Bear

    Meanwhile Mike Baird?

    Gone and forgotten. Failing upwards with no skin in the game as is always the case. Handsomely rewarded by NAB for door opening services to be rendered.

  148. stackja

    cohenite
    #2876439, posted on December 1, 2018 at 10:31 am

    BER?

  149. H B Bear

    I went to sleep before ‘The Man’.

    Yeah but were you out in 96 seconds?

  150. Bruce of Newcastle

    Gen Alpha will probably wind up cheerily loading ageing grandparents and denounced parents in to transports

    We look forward to Gen Zero’s painless euthanasia fields.
    One of those kiddies may turn out to be Sister Number One.

  151. C.L.

    UPDATE: Amber Guyger, the Dallas cop who shot an unarmed black man in his own apartment in September, has been indicted for murder.

    Unless the grand jury was apprised of a motive unknown to the public, she will not be convicted of murder. Which tells me the intention from authorities is to engineer an acquittal while heading off a damaging ‘racism’ campaign. If the shooter was a black woman cop and the victim a white male, the charge would have been manslaughter.

  152. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    New charge for police officer accused of killing Australian Justine Ruszczyk Damond

    By Peter Mitchell
    AAP
    12 minutes ago December 1, 2018

    Prosecutors are trying to bolster the murder charge against the former Minneapolis police officer accused of using “tragic accuracy” to shoot dead Australian life coach Justine Ruszczyk Damond.

    Mohamed Noor initially was charged with third degree murder and manslaughter in the second degree, but prosecutors have asked a judge in Minneapolis to add a more serious second degree murder count.

    Damond, 40, formerly of Sydney, was shot dead as she approached Noor’s police vehicle in an alley behind her Minneapolis homejust before midnight on July 15 last year.

    “There is probable cause to believe the defendant committed second degree intentional murder and the state respectfully requeststhat the court grant the state’s motion to amend the complaint,” prosecutors wrote in a filing.

    Damond had called police after hearing a woman’s screams near the alley.

    From the Oz.

  153. stackja

    Strathmore mum sleeps with three knives following burglaries
    Rachel Clayton, Moonee Valley Leader
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    A Strathmore mum has been left “terrified” and now sleeps with knives by her bedside after her home was broken into twice in a month.

    Sibel Sahinkaya’s home in the northwestern suburb of Strathmore was broken into during the day on October 10.

    The offenders broke down the front door and fled with thousands of dollars worth of j-wellery and new appliances still in boxes, including a $6000 television.

    A Victoria Police spokesman said Mooney Valley Crime Investigation Unit detectives were investigating the circumstances surrounding the burglary and attempted burglary.

  154. Frank

    The Man.

    He was “the adroit one” at one point, until he got too much stick for it. Give a half-head a thesaurus and explain what it is for and that is what happens.

  155. Whatever happened to the muslim black cop who shot an unarmed Australian women Justine Damond after she called the cops for help?

    The prosecutor is attempting to charge him with 2nd degree murder – alleging that he had “intent to kill” and meant what he was doing.
    He’s looking at 40 years if it gets up.

    But yeah, things are dragging along quite slowly there.

  156. stackja

    struth
    #2876450, posted on December 1, 2018 at 10:52 am

    Australia has not had two civil war like the USA. USA Constitution was created to keep the people in control. Australia has ‘she’ll be right’.

  157. Bruce of Newcastle

    Handsomely rewarded by NAB for door opening services to be rendered.

    Nah, Baird was required to balance Henry.
    Labor can cause immense pain, but Lib voters have all the money.
    It’s a terrible equation, if you’re a bank.

  158. C.L.

    I like Jeff Horn but his punches are weak.
    He wasn’t beaten by Terence Crawford in June; he was beaten up by him.

  159. stackja

    struth
    #2876450, posted on December 1, 2018 at 10:52 am

    Leftists have never faced consequences. 1940s Leftists supported Stalin.

  160. Zyconoclast

    It does. He should have retired three or four years ago.

    Why retire when the mugs keep throwing money at him?

  161. Infidel Tiger

    Unless the grand jury was apprised of a motive unknown to the public, she will not be convicted of murder. Which tells me the intention from authorities is to engineer an acquittal while heading off a damaging ‘racism’ campaign. If the shooter was a black woman cop and the victim a white male, the charge would have been manslaughter.

    There is apparently evidence suggesting the murder was pre-meditated.

  162. Roger

    Strathmore mum sleeps with three knives following burglaries

    A law abiding woman reduced to sleeping with knives by her side when she could own and be trained in the use of a hand gun.

    And what chance the perpetrators are “known to police” and even on bail?

    None of this would happen in a civilised society.

  163. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2876468, posted on December 1, 2018 at 11:15 am

    PC appointed Ken Henry. Why?

  164. stackja

    Roger
    #2876473, posted on December 1, 2018 at 11:19 am
    None of this would happen in a civilised society.

    Victorian voters civilised?

  165. C.L.

    Breaking: EU to make criticism of ‘migration’ a criminal offence:

    “The criticism of migration will be a criminal offense.”
    “Media outlets that give room for criticism of migration can be shut down.”

    https://twitter.com/KayaJones/status/1068401850016120832

  166. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    He’s looking at 40 years if it gets up.

    So much for that little exercise in affirmative action.

  167. C.L.

    There is apparently evidence suggesting the murder was pre-meditated.

    Wow.

  168. C.L.

    I see Hugh Jackman, 50, is wishing his wife a happy 63rd birthday.
    Kind of an unusual age gap.
    DM.

    Jackman has also announced a world tour of a singing and dancing show.

    Mmm.

  169. Roger

    Victorian voters civilised?

    Victoria has reached the Tocquevillean end point of democracy – free stuff trumps everything, even law and order.

  170. Robber Baron

    Brunswick, in Melbourne’s inner North

    I live in a neighboring suburb.

    I describe Brunswick as inspirational communist. It is full of apartment towers, cafes and younger people. It is very fag friendly and most houses are under-going a renovation. As the old folk die off, new hipster types are moving in and spending big on renovations.

    The people that would like to live in Fitzroy and Carlton but can’t afford the $2million price tag are choosing Brunswick with the $1million price tag.

    Lots of public servant types live in the area with trams and trains to the CBD. Also lots of students as it is close to the city and Unis and has public transport that goes to Melb Uni and RMIT.

  171. Bruce of Newcastle

    Breaking: EU to make criticism of ‘migration’ a criminal offence

    ‘Invasion’ is a better word anyway.
    I have a thesaurus and I know how to use it.

  172. Frank

    C.L.

    do we detect by the use of juxtaposition a slight suggestion of something wrt Mr Jackman?

  173. classical_hero

    I’ve been blocked by Twitter for daring to criticise Planned Parenthood and the fact that they chop up babies. I used a cartoon to show it. Basically the gist is that it uses the killing of the Saudi terrorist, whom the media claims was a journalist.

  174. Boambee John

    A few months ago our fascist left infiltrator m0nty made what was probably an inadvertently (partially) correct statement.

    He claimed, correctly, that the left is now the political establishment. He then went on to claim, incorrectly, that the left are now the conservatives, defending the institutions of society from the destructive influence of those claiming to be conservative or libertarian.

    In reality the communist and fascist left between them have damaged or destroyed most institutions, and only attempt to conserve their own power and perquisites, usually at the expense of those (the poor and disadvantaged) whom they claim to support.

    That said, we need to consider how genuine conservatives and libertarians can use peaceful means to roll back the disaster that looms.

    The first step should be parliamentary. Getting seats in the Reps is near impossible against the system of compulsory preferential voting that entrenches the left. In the Senate, however, some gains are possible. We should aim to get at least two senators in every state. These might be representing any of Aust Conservatives, LDP, ALA, SFF and PHON, it is the number that is important, not the specific party. Vote below the line, and consider your preferences carefully.

    Some might object to supporting PHON, because of their economic policies. I would respond that we can recover from PHON’s economics, we cannot recover from the cultural and demographic changes that the communist and fascist left collectively intend to implement.

    Further ideas to follow, as I clarify my thinking.

  175. stackja

    Robber Baron
    #2876483, posted on December 1, 2018 at 11:26 am

    Whole area tax funded?

  176. Did someone hit the deck as soon as the Foxtel cheque cleared?

    When he went down his eyes were rolling like dropped marbles.
    Mundine was knocked out.

  177. Steve trickler.

    Air traffic control and that big 7.0 quake in Alaska.

    A plane came close to landing during the event …. it makes you wonder what would happen upon touchdown if they did?



  178. Strathmore mum sleeps with three knives following burglaries

    A law abiding woman reduced to sleeping with knives by her side when she could own and be trained in the use of a hand gun.

    Yep, taking on a trio of thugs at 3am with her knives may not work out well for her.

    Opening fire from the bed, using an M1.50 carbine with a 30-round magazine will work out well for her.

  179. Did someone hit the deck as soon as the Foxtel cheque cleared?

    Glad I didn’t pay for the fight.
    The price was $800

  180. Cornelius Agrippa

    What you said was sexist Infidel Tiger. You had it coming classical hero.

  181. cohenite

    Trump looking at Turdball. This is what the Australian electorate was doing also.

  182. Bruce of Newcastle

    PC appointed Ken Henry. Why?

    Stackja – The practice is known in Japan as amakudari, or “descent from heaven”. I suspect Carpe knows it well.

  183. Phater Dyeus

    What you said was sexist Infidel Tiger. You had it coming classical hero.

  184. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, sorry I don’t know why Costello appointed Henry, who’d been Keating’s staffer. Peter is a bit of a romantic. Maybe he believed public servants really were selfless and unbiased, rather than politicized.

  185. C.L.

    I’m not suggesting anything, Frank.
    Jackman is a ripped 50 year-old married to a pensioner who also likes singing and dancing.
    Totally normal.

  186. JC

    Trump looking at Turdball. This is what the Australian electorate was doing also.

    One of his most senior ambassadors was in cahoots with a cabal of intel services not only to help lose the election, but to also put him in jail for a very long time on trumped up charges. I bet he’s pissed of with Australia.

  187. Dr Faustus

    Why retire when the mugs keep throwing money at him?

    Fair point; mind you Joe Bugner kept the cash rolling in waay past his ‘best before date’ using the old retirement/comeback strategy.

    Aussie Anthony Mundine?
    No, won’t work…

  188. Jackman is a ripped 50 year-old married to a pensioner who also likes singing and dancing.
    Totally normal.

    Totally normal cover for a gay guy who doesn’t want to be “out”.

  189. Old School Conservative

    ESPN calls the end of the fight “Left hook flush on the chin”.
    Mundine looks gone for all money and the ref knew it.
    Well done over many years as an elite athlete Mr Mundine.

  190. bespoke

    Opening fire from the bed, using an M1.50 carbine with a 30-round magazine will work out well for her.

    They may not even try if they thought she had one.

  191. stackja

    Would Vic Pol confiscate any firearm? Must defend naughty burglars from citizen?

  192. JC

    Downer should be facing serious charges in Australia for what he did. It actually is an act of treason. He interfered in the internal politics of our most important alliance and potentially destroyed the relationship.

    At the very least the hope the piece of shit thinks twice about traveling overseas in case there’s an arrest warrant lying around.

  193. Muddy

    Boambee John.

    Attempting anything, anything at all, without targeting and neutralising the enablers outside of the political bubble, will be a waste of resources.

  194. Baldrick

    Jackman has also announced a world tour of a singing and dancing show.

    We’ve reached peak Hugh Jackman, the quintessential Aussie ponce. Enough!

  195. They may not even try if they thought she had one.

    Quite so.
    They’re very good at risk/benefit analysis.

  196. Roger

    Michelle Guthrie’s performance review ranked her in the top 10% of global CEOs for…arrogance.

    What?

    The woman who complained to a Senate Estimate’s C’tee that they’d caused her to miss her flight?

    Arrogant?

  197. JC

    In case anyone missed it 🙂 West Texas crude is trading at just a tad over 50 bucks a barrel and is holding up for dear life above that important level. It was 75 bucks a barrel – like ages ago – in September. It’s one of the biggest drops I seen other than the collapse after Gulf war 1.

    The one thing doing this is technology. Good old Western know how, called fracking.

    It doesn’t mean of course that the oil price can no longer see big rallies, but what it does suggest is that the era of long term expensive oil in real terms is over. The science settled this one.

    Fracking also has very important geo-poltical implications.

  198. Old School Conservative

    the quintessential Aussie ponce

    Peter Allan’s fans would disagree.

    Mark Steyn summarises:
    The fetching Aussie hunk (Allen) found himself (more or less simultaneously) Judy’s pianist, her husband’s lover, and her daughter’s husband. Back in the mid-Forties, Miss Garland had come home one day and found her then husband, Vincente Minnelli, in bed with another man. There followed her first suicide attempt. Two decades later, Liza Minnelli could top that: she caught Peter Allen, her new husband, in bed with his boyfriend on their wedding night.

  199. Lukey Boy

    I’ve been keeping an eye on the vote tally of last week’s election. Has anyone else noticed the turnout had been down a significant margin since the last state election and the one before that?

  200. JC

    Old School.

    It didn’t piss her off all that much though, she hung on for seven years.

    Allen married Liza Minnelli in 1967; they were divorced in 1974

  201. bespoke

    Socrates at the Pub

    I thought twice before giving my 4ft nothing aunty lip after watching her clean her hand gun at the brekkie table.

  202. Boambee John

    Muddy
    #2876519, posted on December 1, 2018 at 12:25 pm
    Boambee John.

    Attempting anything, anything at all, without targeting and neutralising the enablers outside of the political bubble, will be a waste of resources.

    So how do we identify, target and neutralise them peacefully?

  203. cohenite

    Laugh or cry time. The Spectator: After Victoria, Liberals still have the values and the ideas to win
    Robert Clark.

    Energy and climate change: Human ingenuity and initiative could well be on the brink of breakthroughs in solar energy that will transform our world for the better. Governments must ensure our electricity grid and electricity market will be able to cope with the huge decentralisation of energy generation that will follow.

    Head still up arse.

  204. Farmer Gez;

    Currently sitting in the ute and watching as they learn how to drink from a trough.

    Hope you didn’t leave too many of those smelly cakes of deoderiser in the trough, FG.

  205. H B Bear

    Anyone have Robert Clarke’s phone number? I have a bridge for sale.

  206. Mak Siccar

    What a disgraceful piece of &@#* this person is. From The Oz.

    Dutton should be referred to court: Banks
    By ELIZA BERLAGE
    AUSTRALIAN ASSOCIATED PRESS
    47 MINUTES AGO DECEMBER 1, 2018
    Former Liberal MP Julia Banks has declared she believes Peter Dutton should refer himself to the High Court over the payment of Commonwealth subsidies to childcare centres owned by his family trust.

    She has told Fairfax media the Home Affairs minister had a “very clear” case to answer over his financial interest in the childcare centres.

  207. Robber Baron

    stackja
    #2876491, posted on December 1, 2018 at 11:40 am

    There is a fair bit of taxpayer investment in Brunswick such as bicycle lanes, bike racks etc that totally clog up traffic.

    All the old factory sites are being turned into towers of dog boxes.

    I hope to live long enough to see the now shiny new apartment towers turn into old broken down and graffiti covered drug and crime magnets.

  208. notafan

    Another back flip

    I have history in complaining to school about teachers undermining Catholic teaching and pushing personal olitical agenda.

    Trust me it only takes one concerned parent to make a difference.

    Upset my children, who objected to the behaviour.

    Polite calm clear works wonders.

    I know Nilk does the same with her daughter’s great support.

    My children are still proud I stand up for what i believe in.

    Teachers are not that powerful and frankly mostly not particularly smart.

    A handful of strong minded parents making it clear that their children’s values will be inculcated at home would make a mountain of a difference.

    Making your child’s life a misery need not be an outcome.

  209. Oh come on

    Jackman and Furness adopted their kids, for some reason.

    Ah screw the wink wink routine. Jackman is as queer as a three dollar bill and everyone knows it. Just like anyone with eyes knew Ian Thorpe was a bender long before he came out.

  210. P

    Abbott open to return as PM

    The video in the above link is worth watching IMO.

  211. I post these videos because to me, they are fascinating.
    But they are also interesting to youngsters.
    Many of them lead to questions beyond the video itself.
    e.g. Recycling aluminium cans is fascinating, isn’t it?
    What do you notice about the process?
    Answer: It’s energy intensive.
    Q2 What happens if the energy to run the plant gets too expensive?
    Answer: The recycling stops. Recycling to save the planet is only possible with cheap power.
    https://youtu.be/PvQilLU-CQk

  212. Bruce of Newcastle

    Who can bear it?

    ‘Winnie the Pooh’ Banished from Madrid to Avoid Offending Xi Jinping

    Chinese President Xi Jinping visited Spain on Thursday for talks with Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez, prompting Spanish police to banish a street performer dressed as beloved children’s character Winnie the Pooh from Madrid’s Sol Square.

    The Chinese government regards Pooh with the same disdain as a hive of honeybees because someone thought a photo of portly Xi strolling alongside former U.S. President Barack Obama in 2013 resembled Pooh strolling alongside his pal Tigger.

    I suppose so. He is a bit tall to be Piglet.

  213. struth

    Another back flip

    Who’s backflipped?

    I hope you aren’t referring to me. If you are I would ask you to go back and try to comprehend what you are reading.
    Excuse me if you meant something else, but after the last couple of days, who could blame me for wanting you to state clearly what you mean.

  214. JC

    I think a charity , for a good cause, should open up collecting coins only, from people. I have a bathroom basket 1/4 full of silver coins. I’d happily put them in a “environmentally friendly” plastic bag and dump them on someone.

  215. struth

    Is it true to say the Lowering of our fuel prices lately are due to Trump?

  216. JC

    Is it true to say the Lowering of our fuel prices lately are due to Trump?

    To a very large extent, sure. He executive ordered federal approvals to move faster through the network for drilling. He’s also cajoled the Saudis. And that’s just a small part.

  217. The Liberal Party is dead. It just doesn’t know it yet.

    Seriously, somebody needs to put it out of it’s misery.
    It’s done, finished, kaput.
    Pitiful to watch.

  218. Fisky

    The Ponzi Economy is collapsing! It’s over!

    https://www.realestate.com.au/news/rents-are-going-down-landlords-make-desperate-offers-to-attract-tenants/?rsf=syn:news:nca:dt:spa

    Desperate landlords are offering tenants up to four weeks free rent just for signing new leases amid a rise in vacancies and drop in rental prices.

    The offers have followed a surge in new housing construction that oversupplied parts of Sydney with housing, with nearly one in 10 rental homes sitting vacant in some areas.

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