A bit of a scandal breaking in Victoria

More than 600 notifications are being sent to criminals who were represented by or had dealings with a high-profile gangland lawyer to tell them their cases could be tainted, after she worked as a supergrass informing on her clients in Victoria’s biggest legal scandal.

Informer 3838’s actions are unprecedented in Australia’s criminal history.

The lawyer used the secrets of her clients, and others she had dealings with, many of which were provided under the cloak of confidential privilege, to aid police in their prosecutions.

Informer 3838’s recruitment as an informer also brings into question the actions of police command, including former chief commissioners Simon Overland and Christine Nixon, as well as prosecuting and government agencies who were thought to be privy to the arrangement.

There have already been calls for a Royal Commission.

From the Herald Sun.

Calls for a Royal Commission? Why not just arrest the people involved now?

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99 Responses to A bit of a scandal breaking in Victoria

  1. pbw

    prosecuting and government agencies who were thought to be privy to the arrangement.

    Maybe because there is insufficient evidence to convict former chief commissioners. It would also be interesting to know whether the current chief commissioner was involved, and whether the prosecuting agency and investigating police in Georg Pell’s case were involved.

  2. Confused Old Misfit

    Why not just arrest the people involved now?

    Because they have friends in high places and I got where I am today on their coattails and they know about the skeletons on my closet!

  3. John Constantine

    Always looked dodgy as the lifestyle was flaunted in the victorian media and she glamoured around untouched.

    The grand old tradition of victorian crooks dobbing their mates in for a leg up.

    Doesn’t seem to work with the new tribes of crims.

    Never find a peoples liberation army aligned crime minion even opening his mouth about the time of day.

    [ of course when the peoples liberation army own all the security cameras, pretty hard to get away with being seen near a copper doing dobbing.]

    Comrades.

  4. Delta

    Why not just arrest the people involved now?

    That’s simple to answer. Labor’s red shirts rort.

  5. Rebel with cause

    Why not just arrest the people involved now?

    What crime has been committed? Surely lawyer breaching confidentiality is a civil matter?

  6. Rockdoctor

    Funny this pops up after the election. Hmmm….

  7. Sinclair Davidson

    What crime has been committed?

    Perversion of justice.

  8. John64

    Informer 3838?

    Surely a case of Informer 38-24-38.

  9. Hay Stockard

    Government fixing of the courts does not just pervert the course of justice. It is akin to the rape of Democracy. Australia descending further in to being a third world shit hole.

  10. CameronH

    The Royal Commission will be to cloud the issues and try to divert attention away from any thing that could be politically damaging. This is why they do not just arrest the people involved.

  11. H B Bear

    Ah VicPol, Australia’s most politicised police force, you’ve done it again.

  12. stackja

    But the High Court’s decision published this morning to allow the DPP to alert criminals over the “systemic” misconduct is expected to trigger a domino of revelations and legal actions which will embroil police bosses, government agencies, some in the judiciary and political leaders.

    Dan?

  13. Confused Old Misfit

    Why not just arrest the people involved now?

    Because…look mate; if we open an official investigation a lot of stuff is going to come out that really shouldn’t and a lot of people are going to get badly mauled and maybe have their lives ruined.
    Besides, the only people that get anything out of this are the damned lawyers! Sorry, I forgot you were one! But you know what I mean? We don’t want to be seen throwing the taxpayers money around too freely, do we?
    And you know, we may need some of these people again, going forward.
    Anyway, if we all just keep schtum the press will get tired of it and it will all blow over in a week or two.
    OK? You good with that? Good man!

  14. stackja

    The Herald Sun has followed the matter for years, but has until today been prevented from revealing extensive details of what occurred between 1999 and 2014.

    Whittlesea Council CEO Simon Overland, who as a senior police officer presided over the Purana taskforce set up to end the gangland war, is expected to face scrutiny. His then boss, Christine Nixon, who he followed as chief commissioner, will face questions.

  15. Terry

    The Peoples’ Democratic Republic of Victoriastan.

    This Federation’s most progressive and liveable shithole.

    Nuke the joint from orbit. It’s the only way.

  16. Gerry

    Both Commissioners were Labor appoints IIRC …Labor and the law ….what a tangled web ….

  17. stackja

    Vic ALP accident prone. Vic voters are strange.

  18. lotocoti

    Die Staatssicherheitsdienst VicPol is the shield and sword of the Victorian Demokratische Republik.

  19. Baldrick

    In any other State this might get a run but Victorian voters have already sent a clear message to their political Labor ‘red-shirt’ overlords, they don’t care.

  20. Bruce of Newcastle

    More than 600 notifications are being sent to criminals who were represented by or had dealings with a high-profile gangland lawyer to tell them their cases could be tainted

    Oh great. So now the entire Victorian justice system will be tied up for years rehearing the cases of these people all because their SJW lawyers will use this precedent to extract legal aid from the Vic government.

    Meanwhile courts which are already reluctant to prosecute African gangs are going to be even more reluctant because of their increase workload.

  21. I predict lots of response like:

    Oyve dunn nuffink rong!

  22. Hydra

    If the allegations are true this is a disgusting miscarriage of justice.

  23. Perfidious Albino

    Timing of this revelation, post State election, is interesting…

  24. Wait….

    Crime and perversion in Victoria?

    That’s not breaking news. It’s a day ending in a ‘y’.

  25. Dr Faustus

    Interesting side note.

    As part of its case to avoid publication of its own criminal activity, VicPol undertook a risk assessment of what would likely happen to the bent barrister and family if Tony Mokbel and his six [ahem] associates found out they had been dudded by their brief. Unsurprisingly, the risk of death to the barrister was considered “almost certain“.

    Despite that cheery prospect, the Court was told:

    …the barrister had declined to enter the police witness protection program, “taking the view that Victoria Police cannot be trusted to maintain confidentiality”.

    Says it all.

  26. Dr Bray

    Lie down with crims, get up with fleas.
    Just stop taking the briefs!
    Massive breach of a barrister’s ethical duties. Should not be allowed to work again as a lawyer.

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Gangland informant lawyer scandal: Notorious cases could be tainted
    Tony Mokbel is among dozens of Australia’s most notorious criminals to be told their convictions and lengthy prison sentences are based on evidence provided by their defence lawyer when the lawyer was a police informant.

    By Rachell Baxendale and Chip Le Grand
    5 minutes ago December 3, 2018

    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has announced a royal commission into the recruitment and management of police informants, following revelations today that Victoria Police used a defence lawyer as a registered informant at the height of Melbourne’s gangland war.

    The announcement comes after suppressions were this morning lifted on a High Court decision which described Victoria police’s use of the lawyer as an informant as “reprehensible conduct” which corrupted potentially dozens of high profile convictions of central gangland players.

    “As I get more and more information on this I am left in no doubt that a royal commission is the right thing to do,” Mr Andrews said.

    Flanked by new Attorney-General Jill Hennessy and Police Minister Lisa Neville, Mr Andrews said the work of the commission would begin early in the new year and be completed by December 2019.

  28. thefrollickingmole

    Its not just bad, its stupid.

    Blind Freddy could see the result would be a massive retrial.

    Its one thing for a lawyer to be a little “bent” and give off the record info (to either crims or police) its quite another to have been an actual informant.

    And the incredible, mind blowing stupidity of the upper ranks who approved this (including the DPP) should see them billed personally for the costs of every case.

    I expect Mdme Nixon was off getting a pie and wasnt present at the meeting that made the decision.

  29. John Constantine

    Can we jail Nixon if we can’t afford to feed her?.

    A porkasaurus is for life, not just for Christmas.

  30. Atoms for Peace

    H0w long has there been a suppression order over this case ?

  31. Udo

    Bracks and Brumby Governments 2005-2009….Enough said.

  32. duncanm

    Faustus – a little more here

    For the sake of completeness, the response I received from Victoria Police in late 2014 to my letter was nothing but disingenuous and offensive. For the writer to reply by inferring that anyone other than police members were responsible for the leaking of highly sensitive confidential information detailing my role was and is simply absurd.

    confirmation that an extremely dangerous Italian organised crime family has learned this type of detail is nothing short of horrifying

    During 2005 I became aware of high-level drug trafficking, money laundering, witness tampering, firearm offences and a variety of other serious criminal activity by virtue of the contact I had with certain clients and their ‘‘crews’’ and ‘‘supporters’’. I also watched as Police either totally failed to investigate much of this offending or, failed in being able to obtain evidence to be able to arrest and charge offenders….

  33. Notafan

    I think most of us can guess who it is

  34. Robbo

    The actions of this lawyer have left me gobsmacked.

  35. I also watched as Police either totally failed to investigate much of this offending …

    coz the perps were young and naive?

  36. Confused Old Misfit

    coz the perps were young and naive?

    Nah, ’cause it was the way in their “cultcha”!

  37. Squirrel

    What an excellent cue for another instalment in the Underbelly franchise – just the thing for the newly merged (and nicely positioned for cross-promotion) Nine/Fairfax.

  38. JC

    Robbo
    #2877856, posted on December 3, 2018 at 4:41 pm

    The actions of this lawyer have left me gobsmacked.

    But not the plod?

  39. candy

    Was she having an affair with a gangland criminal and became corrupt?

    Otherwise why was she wasting her young smart self on hanging around very bad men.

  40. John Constantine

    Royal commission into why this was buried until the week after their Andrews Nazgul occupying regime won the election.

    Comrades.

  41. JC

    Is she a decent looker, Candy?

    You know the Cat rule pertaining to this, right?

  42. John Constantine

    The mafia would have had this information for nearly as long as the ABC has.

    But the treasure map of the location and value of every privately-owned gun in Victoria is totally safe.

    Comrades.

  43. candy

    JC I really don’t know what you are talking about.

    But it would not surprise if the lady lawyer had been involved with a gangland criminal and was not a total innocent about the people she met in that world. Otherwise why would a smart young lady lawyer travel down that path.

  44. Snoopy

    Was she having an affair with a gangland criminal and became corrupt?

    Candy understands that with corrupt women it almost always comes down to who they’re rooting. My guess is is she was getting rooted by a cop.

  45. John Constantine

    Anybody want to bet that no matter how hard they have to twist to do it, their ABC will not mention the word mafia for the whole scandal.

  46. JC

    candy
    #2877964, posted on December 3, 2018 at 7:03 pm

    JC I really don’t know what you are talking about.

    It’s been a Cat rule for years and I can’t believe you’ve missed it. If she’s a decent looker she gets a break and you go after the cops, really hard.

    If it’s who I think it is, then she’s a really good looker. I recall there was a pic of a lawyer in the hot seat for a while… ages ago. She may have deteriorated since then though, in which case the rule wouldn’t apply. We have to see what she looks like now!

  47. John Constantine

    Drug test all ABC employees before they start work, like miners and truck drivers.

    When they depend on their connections for the stuff that gets them by, they ain’t gonna rock the boat.

    Leave the compulsory drug testing landmine for shorten.

    Wouldn’t mind it for politicians and staffers either.

    And those fucks from get up.

  48. Tintarella di Luna

    ABC Journalist ejected from Question Time for not following dress code — didn’t wear a jacket

    Compare the skinned rabbit-armed red-shoe donor and the dress of the jouralist ejectee

    This is from the Oz — parliament is dealing with the really really important issues:

    ABC journalist Patricia Karvelas has sparked a social media crusade after she was kicked out of the press gallery during question time for failing to wear a jacket, despite prominent parliamentarians also regularly showing their arms in the House of Representatives.

    Karvelas tweeted “I have just been kicked out of question time because you can allegedly see too much skin. His (sic) insane” with a picture of her white short-sleeved top, in a post that has been retweeted more than 900 times.
    Manager of opposition business Tony Burke asked the Speaker Tony Smith to investigate the matter at the end of question time, to which Mr Smith vowed to make inquiries.

    Leader of the House Christopher Pyne pointed out there was a dress code for journalists and politicians – including that men should wear a jacket and women are advised to uphold a similar standard while in the chamber

    Karvelas’ tweet sparked outrage, led by Greens MP Adam Bandt who pointed out he had tried to get the “ridiculous ‘bare arms’ rule” changed last year.

    “Sadly, it didn’t succeed then. I hope this time things are different,” he said.

    Former foreign minister Julie Bishop is often photographed in sleeveless tops or dresses, while One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has also dressed in short sleeves and was even able to wear a burqa into the Senate in a stunt that was widely condemned.

    The dress code rules in the Senate have been relaxed but are still strict in the lower house.

    It is not uncommon for journalists to be ejected from the press gallery for not wearing a jacket but Karvelas’ post appears to have triggered momentum for change.

  49. stackja

    Tint – Senate must accept that PK is wearing the pants.

  50. Snoopy

    It is not uncommon for journalists to be ejected from the press gallery for not wearing a jacket but Karvelas’ post appears to have triggered momentum for change.

    I’m sure Patricia Karvelas had absolutely no idea what she was doing. It wasn’t a setup at all.

  51. H B Bear

    Chrissy Pyne wears the pants in the Reps. The ALPBC has long had a problem with anyone telling them what to do. Gotta leave that co-op mindset in Ultimo and Southbank comrades.

  52. John Constantine

    How much to redo five hundred mafia trials?.

    What price the vicpol time diverted from new crims?.

    Will the Andrews Nazgul yarragrad regime spend a billion to not convict any new criminals?.

  53. stackja

    John C – Will a certain person awaiting court be included?

  54. Frank

    Compare the skinned rabbit-armed red-shoe donor

    That photo really is rather special, the delusional level of self regard coupled with the lack of self awareness at how she looks would have to make for a textbook case of something unsavoury. Aged slapper with a Gidget complex or whatever the DSMV is calling it these days.

  55. Tintarella di Luna

    Tint – Senate must accept that PK is wearing the pants.

    Hmmm

  56. Tintarella di Luna

    That photo really is rather special, the delusional level of self regard coupled with the lack of self awareness at how she looks would have to make for a textbook case of something unsavoury.

    I’ve said it so often on here I was hoping she’d taken the hint given unflattering photos, highlighting that the media is not always kind to women in the public eye.

    Having done the June Dally-Watkins Deportment Course for Young Gels I’m a bit of a stickler for women of a certain age, of whom I’m one, to accept that the years are not kind in the upper arm department one way or the other.

  57. Dan Dare

    Skinned rabbit arm. Classic.
    Tinta we need a list of your best.
    Bent eared termite is another of my favourites.

  58. Tintarella di Luna

    Tinta we need a list of your best.

    Dan Dare, my best are rather earthy and rarely for public consumption. I put it down to being a farmer’s daughter or to the company I’ve kept since leaving the farm.

  59. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Was she having an affair with a gangland criminal and became corrupt?

    If it was who I think it is, there was at least one.

  60. 2dogs

    Somehow, the lid got kept down to this until after the Victorian state election.

  61. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Lawyer X scandal: jailed Victorian gangsters could go free

    John Ferguson
    Associate Editor
    @fergusonjw
    Rachel Baxendale
    Victorian Political Reporter
    @rachelbaxendale
    14 minutes ago December 3, 2018

    Some of Australia’s most notorious criminals and gangland figures could go free after a royal commission investigates Victoria Police’s “reprehensible’’ and potentially corrupt use of a ­female barrister as a supergrass, amid fears that dozens of cases have been compromised.

    Premier Daniel ­Andrews yesterday announced a $7.5 million inquiry after the High Court excoriated police use of so-called Lawyer X as a prosecution witness.

    The use of Lawyer X, who informed on her clients while acting for them and claims the force ­arrested and charged 386 people because of her information, has imperilled dozens of cases including convictions against drug lord Tony Mokbel, who was Australia’s amphetamines king until he was arrested in Greece in 2007.

    The barrister used by police was instrumental in prosecutions of the Mokbel cartel and was seminal to Purana Taskforce investigations into Melbourne’s broader gangland war between 2005 and 2009, when she was a registered police informant.

    The High Court said yesterday that police were guilty of ­“reprehensible conduct’’ and “sanctioning atrocious breaches’’ of the force’s ethics by using Lawyer X, also known as 3838 and EF, to act as an informant against the best interests of her clients.

    Victorian Director of Public Prosecutions Kerri Judd QC has written to 20 criminals, advising them their convictions could be ­affected by the ethical and legal breaches — among the worst in Australian legal history.

    Separate to the Judd letter, a further two cases affected by commonwealth law also have been pinpointed for review but the royal commission could uncover dozens of other transgressions.

    Compensation to the convicted criminals is a distinct possibility.

    Mr Andrews yesterday conceded that criminals could walk free as a result of the blunders, which occurred overwhelmingly during the tenure of former police commissioner Christine Nixon. They were also undertaken while former chief commissioner Simon Overland held senior roles, including as head of crime and as a deputy commissioner. Neither he nor Ms Nixon responded to ­requests for comment from The Australian.

    From the Oz. 2dogs is correct – strange how all this only surfaces after the State election, isn’t it?

  62. Sydney Boy

    Strange how all this only surfaces after the State election, isn’t it?

    And I can’t wait for all the hand-wringing after freeing one of these criminals who subsequently rapes and murders women, etc.

  63. One ScoMo doesn’t make a Spring

    Surely Nixon’s food vouchers must now be rationed

  64. Seco

    Ashton publicly backing corrupt cops. Gives you an insight into how they’ve managed the spell trial circus.

    Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton yesterday stood by police involved in the scandal, urging people to understand the context in which detectives were operating. He defended the force’s decision to embark on a legal fight to prevent the publication of the scandal.

    “Melbourne was in the grip of what now is known as the gangland wars … The risk to the community at this time was significant … a genuine sense of urgency was enveloping the criminal justice system, including police,’’ he said.

    He defended the roles of those involved in the decision to use the legal supergrass.

  65. Mater

    Somehow, the lid got kept down to this until after the Victorian state election.

    Yes, I agree but I doubt it would have altered the outcome.
    The Red Shirt Scandal was there for all to see and, as Monty put it; ‘It didn’t affect them, they didn’t care’.
    The moral decay has lunged over the tipping point.

  66. John Constantine

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/in-her-own-words-why-a-top-criminal-barrister-became-informer-3838-20181203-p50jug.html

    Every assurance given to the informer by top level vicpol turned out to be a lie.

    The mafia were sold every detail about the informer by vicpol.

    The treasure map of the location and value of every privately owned firearm in victoria is in the hands of the same people that sold out the informer.

    Things that make you go hmmmm.

  67. candy

    Premier Andrews announced the RC almost simultaneously as this mess was divulged. So it tells me he was able to keep the lid on it successfully till after the election. He did not even need a brief space to consider things.

    Still, his government seem to be able to do anything shady, given the Red Shirts. More free tampons should fix things, or free anything. I wonder how long it can last though.

  68. stackja

    candy
    #2878371, posted on December 4, 2018 at 10:28 am

    Pyramid Building Society
    From Wikipedia
    In early 1990 there was a sudden run on Pyramid as depositors rushed to withdraw their money. The reasons behind this were never established, though it was suspected some rumours might have been started by rival institutions. On 13 February 1990 the state treasurer Rob Jolly and attorney general Andrew McCutcheon held a press conference and assured the public that Pyramid was sound, all but telling them to stay in. In fact Pyramid wasn’t sound, but the office of the Registrar of Building Societies hadn’t been particularly assiduous and so didn’t know that.

  69. Mon

    The “ the red shirts “, so Andrews has no problem with ripping off the taxpayers of Victoria but see the criminals have been badly done by. Spare me.

  70. Time to remove the rogue state of Viktoristan from the federation.

    Alternatively merge it back into NSW.

  71. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Alternatively merge it back into NSW.

    Lease it back to the British Crown for use as a penal colony – convicts included.

  72. H B Bear

    From the Oz. 2dogs is correct – strange how all this only surfaces after the State election, isn’t it?

    Relax. I’m sure the Royal Commission will deal with this issue. *muted laughter*

  73. H B Bear

    Sounds like the Hunchback of Spring Street is going to have trouble confining the fall out on this one. The Green-Left Weekly Radio (now) Half Hour formerly known as The World Today lead with the story, so no protection being run there. Jill Hennessy the Victoriastani AG raises the issue of State prosecutors who have gone onto be appointed as Judges.

    Very progressive stuff in our first neo-Marxist state.

  74. stackja

    HBB – Who will be left to run the courts?

  75. H B Bear

    stackja – have a listen to the audiol Hennessy is saying that Judges will be protected against having to provide testimony by law. Not clear whether punters will know who on the bench is caught up in this stuff.

  76. DaveR

    According to the words of Informant 3838:

    She began providing information to police in mid-2003 and was a registered informer from 2005 to 2009, providing information about criminal associates and clients, some while she was simultaneously representing them in plea deals and court proceedings.

    Police Commissioner:
    Christine Nixon 2001-2009
    Simon Overland 2009-2011

    Purana Task Force:
    Simon Overland 2003-2005
    Jim O’Brien 2005-2007
    Bernie Edwards 2007-2010

    Police Minister:
    Andre Haermeyer 1999-2006
    Bob Cameron 2006-2007
    James Merlino 2007-2010

    Victorian Premier:
    Steve Bracks 1999-2007
    John Brumby 2007-2010

  77. H B Bear

    The High Court judgment here if anyone is interested. Only a 4 pager.

    After giving the barrister a serve the Court continued,

    Likewise, Victoria Police were guilty of reprehensible conduct in knowingly encouraging EF to do as she did and were involved in sanctioning atrocious breaches of the sworn duty of every police officer to discharge all duties imposed on them faithfully and according to law without favour or affection, malice or ill-will2 . As a result, the prosecution of each Convicted Person was corrupted in a manner which debased fundamental premises of the criminal justice system.

    Good luck sweeping that under the carpet.

  78. JC

    I don’t quite get the High Court outrage here.

    If a criminal lawyer is ratting on her clients, why is that a huge problem for the cops? Most certainly, the lawyer has an issue with professional conduct, but why the plod?

  79. Confused Old Misfit

    EF’s actions in purporting to act as counsel for the Convicted Persons while covertly informing against them were fundamental and appalling breaches of EF’s obligations as counsel to her clients and of EF’s duties to the court.

    She’s had her knuckles rapped as well.

  80. Confused Old Misfit

    the High Court outrage

    The public interest in preserving EF’s anonymity
    must be subordinated to the integrity of the criminal justice system

    Its the system’s integrity they’re concerned about.
    .

  81. Myrddin Seren

    If a criminal lawyer is ratting on her clients, why is that a huge problem for the cops? Most certainly, the lawyer has an issue with professional conduct, but why the plod?

    Albeit a US reference, I am assuming it is:

    Fruit of the poisonous tree

    Fruit of the poisonous tree is a legal metaphor in the United States used to describe evidence that is obtained illegally. The logic of the terminology is that if the source (the “tree”) of the evidence or evidence itself is tainted, then anything gained (the “fruit”) from it is tainted as well.

    If the defence lawyer is working for the cops – what actions were the crims and what actions could now be argued that she set up or encouraged ie entrapment ?

    Not only could hundreds of hard core crims be released, the Victorian taxpayer ( you ) may be up for compensation claims.

    ( Disclaimer – bush lawyer only )

  82. Confused Old Misfit

    As the judgement states:

    As a result, the prosecution of each Convicted Person was corrupted in a manner which debased fundamental premises of the criminal justice system . It follows , as Ginnane J and the Court of
    Appeal held, that the public interest favouring disclosure is compelling: the maintenance of the integrity of the criminal justice system demands that the information be disclosed and that the propriety of each Convicted Person’s conviction be re-examined in light of the information.

    Further:

    Either way, however, it is appropriate that special leave to appeal be revoked
    in these two proceedings and the decision of the Court of Appeal be allowed to take effect

    BILLIONS!

  83. Confused Old Misfit

    As the judgement states:

    As a result, the prosecution of each Convicted Person was corrupted in a manner which debased fundamental premises of the criminal justice system . It follows , as Ginnane J and the Court of
    Appeal held, that the public interest favouring disclosure is comp-e- lling: the maintenance of the integrity of the criminal justice system demands that the information be disclosed and that the propriety of each Convicted Person’s conviction be re-examined in light of the information.

    Further:

    Either way, however, it is appropriate that special leave to appeal be revoked
    in these two proceedings and the decision of the Court of Appeal be allowed to take effect

    BILLIONS!

  84. Confused Old Misfit

    Have to watch the letter combo of p-e-l- l which was in the above. The moderator doesn’t like it!

  85. Old Lefty

    I wouldn’t read too much into the timing as far as the High Court is concerned. Kiefel CJ is an admirably apolitical black-letter lawyer, and the present court follows her lead.

    As for Yarragra, another story.

  86. Old Lefty

    Sorry for the typo – should have been ‘Yarragrad’. Is Milligan the urinal of choice for the Vicpol to leak on this stuff, or is she reserved for ideological enemies of the revolution such as the Defendant Who May Not Be Ned?

  87. Old Lefty

    Sorry again – ‘Named’.

  88. .

    Likewise, Victoria Police were guilty of reprehensible conduct in knowingly encouraging EF to do as she did and were involved in sanctioning atrocious breaches of the sworn duty of every police officer to discharge all duties imposed on them faithfully and according to law without favour or affection, malice or ill-will2 . As a result, the prosecution of each Convicted Person was corrupted in a manner which debased fundamental premises of the criminal justice system.

    Appalling.

    They’re right, this means we’re very close to declaring the state has no legitimacy.

    It doesn’t really. How different are to China? Their oppression is overt. Ours is covert and illegal.

    The Chinese rulers are probably more ethical than ours.

  89. candy

    She became an informer because of altruism, when she discovered in 2005 that her clients were involved in high-level drug trafficking and other serious criminal activities.

    Seems a bit dubious really, that she was so totally innocent about the nature of her clients’ money making activities even though she was representing them.
    Or maybe it was a very wealthy glamorous kind of dangerous world she was attracted to.

  90. Police service lol

    She approached them. Knowingly and willingly gave evidence freely. That is unethical, it is not illegal.
    Illegal would be police approaching her and forcibly interrogating to get evidence. Perversion of justice tho lololol stick to the movies. Theres corruption in there andcthe real story is the heirachy knowing the ethics but hiding it then throwing her to the wind after it.
    I think good on her. Sick of the crims getting away with murder literally. Tried doing a good deed. Police did their job and took on board information leading to arrests of wanted criminals. But labour appointed ex afp commisioners that wouldn’t know shit from dirty pudding dont help the brand.
    Without the arrests we all forget the potential for the gangland war to be on still this day. Again, unethical, not illegal.

  91. Police service lol

    And if you want a conspiracy.
    She “sued” vic pol for 2.5 mill.
    Theres been a 4 year suppression order.
    Id say the reason for both, is heres some money for your help, and heres a 4 year head start. Make a new life

  92. it has taken me 4 hours to find out her name = very impressed with my sleuthing skills. now to research the heck out of her. seems she wanted to run with the bulls the entire time. play with fire — get burnt.

  93. Brother Shamus

    Lawyer X is a former ALP member. I’m sure it’s got nothing to do with it though.

  94. Babbs

    I’m Gobsmacked people find her attractive….

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