Wednesday Forum: December 5, 2018

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  1. struth

    Are there people who still watch cricket?

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6462137/Army-captain-violated-colleague-beer-bottle-serve-three-months-jail.html

    Demoted, kicked out, and three months up the creek. Good luck finding another job, after that lot.

  3. Armadillo

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Turnbull was involved in setting up his own party of sorts.

    The logical thing to do is to finance candidates within both political parties that suddenly “go rogue” on certain issues. Oh wait.

  4. Muddy

    Nick
    #2879434, posted on December 5, 2018 at 8:37 pm

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Turnbull was involved in setting up his own party of sorts.

    I think it is more likely he is planning his Prime Ministerial Library.

  5. Muddy

    Has Pirate Pete written a book on Malcolm the Godlike yet?

  6. cohenite

    This alarmist bullshit is really getting out of hand; the Swedish lass lecturing the world about what to do to combat globall singeing. Check out the proud dad. Lord of the flies.

  7. Anne

    #2879425, posted on December 5, 2018 at 8:31 pm
    Struth, you drunk?
    —-
    Now that’s a conspiracy theory I’d go with!!!

    Unfortunately I only drink occasionally.
    And this isn’t one of those times.
    Let’s not make it all about me.

    How are you feeling, Anne?

    Very well, thank you. If I were any fitter I’d be dangerous! 😜

    No, the reason I said that was because you quoted me but addressed Notafan.

    Yeah alcohol is not that good for you, however, dandelions and some other common garden weeds are highly nutritious.

    Carry on.

  8. Armadillo

    Are there people who still watch cricket?

    Like most blokes, I switched off the TV when I saw saw Kim Hughes cry like a baby.

    Is cricket still a sport?

  9. P

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Turnbull was involved in setting up his own party of sorts.

    I asked this question here on Oct 31 –
    Do you think it a possibility that he may have in mind forming a new political party?

  10. Elle

    Has Pirate Pete written a book on Malcolm the Godlike yet?

    Bandana man has writer’s block. He is in a dark room salivating over the Libs. He’s incoherent.

    Nothing new.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Turnbull was involved in setting up his own party of sorts.

    I’m betting the deal will be “First President of the Republic of Australia” installed by a Shorten Government, in exchange for destroying the Liberal Party.

  12. Nick

    Strange the media haven’t gone after ScoMo’s missus. After all, they lionized Queen Lucy

  13. John Constantine

    Talked to a bloke not that long ago, he has ninety-five percent equity in his farm and will pay a little bit of tax even in this dry year.

    His bank has him on their higher risk interest rate and his relationship manager is hassling him to put some a capital injection in to move to ninety-six percent equity.
    He is just going to sell down some off farm stuff and tell them to investigate the combination of fornication and travel.

    If blokes like him(in a marginal area) is having credit constricted, what else is coming?.

  14. Muddy

    I’m betting the deal will be “First President of the Republic of Australia” installed by a Shorten Government, in exchange for destroying the Liberal Party.

    I don’t see how anything needs to be offered in exchange for destroying the Lieborals. They’re doing a fine job of that themselves, gratis.
    Never interrupt your enemy …

  15. JC

    John C

    Do you think he’s telling you the truth. It sounds a little far fetched, the bank wants a 1% top up.

  16. cohenite

    The latest Judgment in the Gaynor v burns ongoing stoush: Struth gets a mention in dispatches:

    https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/5c0063e3e4b0851fd68cfeda

  17. Leigh Lowe

    John Constantine

    #2879360, posted on December 5, 2018 at 6:47 pm

    RACV recommends that child restraints are professionally fitted to ensure correct instalment, so children are transported safely. The re-elected government has promised to offer grants to Neighbourhood Houses and community organisations across the state for seats to be professionally installed for free.

    Jesus H Christ.
    The professional fitting of baby seats is a total fucking scam.
    A younger relative of Mrs L with three kids was horrified when I offered to fit a new seat for free.
    Guaranteed infanticide apparently.
    And she is not alone.
    I withdrew the offer anyway.
    If she ever got a fingernail between the anchor strap and the seat, I would be responsible for everything which ever went wrong with the kid from that day forward.

  18. DrBeauGan

    cohenite
    #2879441, posted on December 5, 2018 at 8:50 pm
    This alarmist bullshit is really getting out of hand; the Swedish lass lecturing the world about what to do to combat globall singeing. Check out the proud dad. Lord of the flies.

    I’m getting heartily sick of being told what neurotic children feel about things.

  19. candy

    Malcolm Turnbull is a good match for the Greens of these times, to my mind. He still needs to keep busy and inspired, so why not lead those lot.

    He has a ready made fan club of Greens/elites/ABC and media types. It’s all there for him. why not?
    He doesn’t strike me as the type to start a party, but rather walk into something substantial already and take a position of authority or leadership.
    Why not wish him well. And it gets him out of the house from underneath Mrs Turnbull’s feet.

  20. John Constantine

    He owes half a mill on a ten mill land value.

    Farmland value as equity no longer counts for credit purposes after the royal commission, plus it may indicate where they see prices heading.

    Plus he is grumpy and probably called an idiot an idiot.

  21. Armadillo

    Do you think he’s telling you the truth

    I’d doubt it very much. In fact, completely. The security must be tied into another enterprise.

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m getting heartily sick of being told what neurotic children feel about things.

    I’m getting heartily sick of being told what Sarah Hanson Young and the Greens feel about things, indeed.

  23. triggered

    what seat does Shorten offer Turnbull in the forthcoming election?

    Warringah?

  24. Armadillo

    He owes half a mill on a ten mill land value.

    Is his valuation right? What is it, half the Simpson Desert or something?

  25. I see Trump has declared himself to be Tariff Man, which is a superhero whose alter ego is a right-wing politician but when he dons the latex suit he adds taxes larger than a tall building to everything they buy.

    No wonder the stock market tanked.

  26. notafan

    I love that it’s my reading comprehension skills that are at fault for you constantly referencing me in random comments.

    On the other hand it is interesting that you are working your way towards srr/Anne levels of lizard people paranoia.

  27. None

    Even if Turnbull wanted to set up his own party he wouldn’t unless it could be assired of having gazillions of members. Remember he throw in the towel in the second leadership spill and did not stand because he knew he was going to lose and he couldn’t face the rejection. The same goes with setting up a party. And of course nobody will join him despite all the sick offence they hang around him. The only people he atraxa no names and tossers like Julia Banks and Wyatt Roy. Seriously what a joke.

  28. Leigh Lowe

    JC, John is right.
    I can’t talk for farming, but try borrowing for a short term property changeover with similar balance sheet ratios.
    If you are aged 59 and eligible to access a lump of super in six months … no go.
    Offer to take a super income stream … still no go.
    Apparently a $100k pension backed by a $2 meg fund which is fully accessible in a few months is not “income”.
    FMD, it is more secure than 90% of the income banks lend against.

  29. Muddy

    He has a ready made fan club of Greens/elites/ABC and media types.

    That depends upon how you define ‘fan club.’
    I wouldn’t be letting my finely-calibrated and expensive SincerityMeter anywhere near that issue.

  30. Knuckle Dragger

    Right. Had the nose bag on, off to the pub for an hour or so.

    Possibly to wolf whistle 20 something barmaids.

  31. Armadillo

    John, it can only be because he is on an “interest only” period of 5 years which has expired.

  32. Armadillo

    Banking regulations won’t allow them to renew without a reduction of the original loan amount.

  33. Gab

    Can anyone please explain to me why, after going to bed last night, the TV in my lounge room suddenly turned itself on? I haven’t watched TV in months and months and the remote control was in the drawer under the TV. There was no electrical surge as my bedside lamp was still on.

    Any ideas, Cats?

  34. Armadillo

    This was prior to the BRC. Most farmers renegotiate prior to the 5 years. Your mate probably needs to change banks, which is in itself costly.

  35. John Constantine

    Land prices currently reflect the ripple effect of close to the city stuff selling on property Ponzi prices, people sell an apartment or two for a couple mill, then retire to a house on a few acres an hour from the city for half the money and invest the rest.

    Higher prices then push out further.

    Makes the rates eye watering.

    The royal commission may have been the excuse the banks wanted, or it could have been just a coincidence in timing, or it really could have changed culture overnight.

    Either way, there is a credit tightening out in the wastelands and a strong push to transfer savings and investments into paying down loans. no longer is off farm investing a Good Thing to the banking sector
    [ maybe the lure of potential commissions from it have evaporated.]

    Equity is nothing compared to cashflow and the bank getting its money back to lend to schoolteachers for holidays.

  36. Cassie of Sydney

    “”Gab
    #2879471, posted on December 5, 2018 at 9:28 pm
    Can anyone please explain to me why, after going to bed last night, the TV in my lounge room suddenly turned itself on? I haven’t watched TV in months and months and the remote control was in the drawer under the TV. There was no electrical surge as my bedside lamp was still on.

    Any ideas, Cats?”

    The ghost of Chanukkah Gab?

  37. Elle

    Any ideas, Cats?

    Clean the bong water? 🙂

  38. Viva

    Can anyone please explain to me why, after going to bed last night, the TV in my lounge room suddenly turned itself on?

    They’re baaa-aaak …….

  39. Anne

    Gab, is it a Samsung?

    Television sets can watch the watchers.

    Regarding the coming Internet blackout, 10 days of darkness predicted by Q, you might find this video interesting.

    NASA’s Sun Simulator

    https://youtu.be/jZJcSzO9viU

    https://youtu.be/jZJcSzO9viU

  40. P

    Can anyone please explain to me why, after going to bed last night, the TV in my lounge room suddenly turned itself on? I haven’t watched TV in months and months and the remote control was in the drawer under the TV

    Sounds exciting to me.

    Your remote batteries could be low –
    remotes are known to send off strange signals when they’re near their end.

  41. Armadillo

    John, my suggestion would be for your mate to chuck in the $100k and stay with his current banker. It would be ultimately cheaper. If he hasn’t got the cash to do so, raise it via a “lease back” of existing machinery.

    Either way, tell him to “give himself an uppercut” and actually read the loan contract he signs next time around.

  42. Robber Baron

    what seat does Shorten offer Turnbull in the forthcoming election?

    Turnbull will never be allowed to put his camel nose under the tent of any political party apart from one he starts himself.

    As far as l can tell, the Turnbull Coalition Team comprises Mal, Banks and Laundy. Mal is out, Banks and Laundy will get kicked out in a few months.

    Mal needs to be ignored because he has no real power and in a few more months when Labor take charge, he will have exactly zero power.

    Shorten is way too smart to even talk to Turnbull because he will wake up one day and find it leaked. Turnbull’s political influence is over. Bye bye Mal.

  43. Gab

    Anne, it’s a Sony. Anyone else had that happen to them?

  44. Anne

    Gab, occasionally when there has been power failures at my house an iPod /Speaker system would spontaneously come on full blast.

    I had to unplug it.

  45. RobK

     There was no electrical surge as my bedside lamp was still on.

    Any ideas, Cats?

    Ive seen the same happen. Not sure of the cause. It could be, if on standby, that a flash of light triggers the infrared, or a small electrical interference acting on the manual controls . Or something tripping the touch controls if it has that (say a moth or the cat, something)

  46. Gab

    Okay, thanks, Rob K. So just something electrical then.

  47. candy

    Any ideas, Cats?

    Maybe there is a timing function that’s been accidentally activated to turn it on? or another device or gadget interfering.

    Or you simply need an exorcist. 🙂

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Phone cal, to say I’m a Great uncle for the third time, in less then two months. The next generation have decided to commence their families…

  49. Danoz

    Damienski: I concur with what others have written, but I personally found the “12 Rules…” to reveal him to be less the messiah and more just a supercilious little boy. Lots of great stuff in there, and like many good reads, is largely based on parlaying self evident statements. Which has the benefit of imbibing you with a sense of empathy and agreement.
    However, he does prattle on. I feel that the book would be much better if cut down by a third or a half. I get the sense that much of the window dressing of his tangential rambling is mostly for the benefit of JP to prove to everyone that he is the smartest person in the room. Purely for the sake of showing how widely read he is.
    Kind of like in that video. I expected him to lead with “No.” and follow with a nice, pithy, succinct rebuke. But it took him 5 minutes and great waffling for him to finally get there.

  50. JC

    Annie

    Have you had your nails done recently?

  51. Anne

    That’s a strange question, JC.

    Are you looking for a recommendation?

  52. Armadillo

    I’m not game to speculate what electrical or battery operated devices that might be hiding in bedrooms which may possibly be causing the interference.

    Have you recently installed Christmas lights? That may explain it.

  53. P

    Phone cal, to say I’m a Great uncle for the third time, in less then two months. The next generation have decided to commence their families…

    Assuming these new arrivals are all Aussies, I drink to that, Zulu, and pray that this country will continue t0 be worthy of them and their future efforts in life.

    Go buy them some decent pressies.

  54. Armadillo

    Have you had your nails done recently?

    Sharpened?

  55. chrisl

    Gab The same happens to our Kogan tv . We blame the dog. Then get up to turn it off . Grrr!

  56. Gab

    I don’t have a dog or a cat, but.

  57. Armadillo

    Probably just a rogue possum. Or rats.

  58. struth

    On the other hand it is interesting that you are working your way towards srr/Anne levels of lizard people paranoia

    You just make me smile.
    I can’t help but like you, which shits me, so you’ll have to get nastier than that.

  59. H B Bear

    Cricket Australia must be destroyed.

    Steady on Roger. Stay focused – Lieborals first.

  60. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/NqHx1CDRQkc?rel=0

    This one’s for military type Cats – it’s nothing to do with beer bottles.

  61. struth

    Anne, how many dandelions before you are over the limit?

  62. Leigh Lowe

    Gab

    #2879471, posted on December 5, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    Can anyone please explain to me why, after going to bed last night, the TV in my lounge room suddenly turned itself on? 

    Spooky.
    I got caught by that.
    I set something to record on the TV and it doesn’t just copy it to internal memory … it turns the TV on and plays and records.

  63. Rae

    The self evident truth is

    That I was, and still am, correct, in all respects.

  64. RobK

    I set something to record 
    That sort of thing is a distinct possibility.

  65. Pedro the Ignorant

    Beautiful version of the Last Post on the violin, Zulu.

    I attended a Last Post evening ceremony at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra last year on a cold grey day, the bugler played the Last Post from the upper balcony.

    Perhaps the architecture and solemnity of the AWM added to the experience, but that bugle call brought on the goosebumps.

    Haunting and very appropriate to the memory of the fallen.

  66. P

    It is now Saint Nicholas Eve in Amsterdam.

    I hope Sinterklaas is good to all our rellies on this day.

  67. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It is now Saint Nicholas Eve in Amsterdam.

    Does Saint Nicholas still have “Black Peter” or has political correctness crushed him?

  68. Top Ender

    Police pull over self-driving Tesla with sleeping man behind the wheel
    By TOM KNOWLES
    THE TIMES

    Traffic police often have to think quickly on the road to prevent accidents but they are now coming up against new scenarios involving semi-autonomous cars.

    Police in Redwood City, near San Francisco in California, had to find a way to stop a self-driving car after the driver fell asleep at the wheel.

    A California Highway Patrol unit pulled alongside a Tesla Model 3 travelling south at 112km/h on Highway 101 at 3.30am on Friday, only to find that the driver was asleep.

    The driver of the police car flashed its lights and turned on its sirens in an effort to pull the Tesla over but got no response.

    The officers were forced to come up with a manoeuvre new to the traffic control book, based on an the assumption that the Tesla was running on autopilot.

    The officers called for support, and once a second car had caught up to block any traffic that was coming from behind, the first car accelerated ahead of the Tesla before gradually slowing to a stop.

    The cameras and sensors in the Tesla instructed it to slow down to avoid driving into the police car. It finally came to a halt on a ramp leading off the road.

    The officers had to knock on the windows of the Tesla to wake the driver, who was named as Alexander Samek, 45.

    Art Montiel, of the highway patrol’s Redwood City office, told the Los Angeles Times that there was no training that would have prepared officers for such a situation, and attributed the outcome to their quick thinking.

    Tesla said that all Tesla vehicles “have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver”.

    However, the highway patrol’s report on the incident said it had been unable to confirm that the Tesla’s autopilot was on, because it usually disengages if drivers do not maintain a firm grip on the steering wheel.

    It is possible that the driver was using another of the car’s features, such as its traffic-aware cruise control, which manages its speed against cars in front of it.

    Elon Musk, the founder of Tesla, tweeted yesterday (Tuesday) that he was looking into the incident. “Default autopilot behaviour, if there’s no driver input, is to slow gradually to a stop & turn on hazard lights,” he said. “Tesla service then contacts the owner. Looking into what happened here.”

    Tesla announced last week that its cars had been driven more than one billion cumulative miles with the autopilot engaged since the feature was first offered in 2015.

    The manufacturer has often publicised the safety record of the system, but has updated its autopilot monitoring feature several times in response to incidents, including a crash in March in Mountain View, California, in which an Apple engineer died.

  69. P

    Does Saint Nicholas still have “Black Peter”

    Not in Amsterdam.

    In the hearts and memories though of many I imagine.

  70. Damienski

    Old School Conservative and Danoz, thanks for responses. I think I’ll buy it. What the hell – it’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas.

  71. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Haunting and very appropriate to the memory of the fallen.

    Perth, a few years ago, at the corner of Barrack Street, and the Hay Street Mall, November the 11th, the buglers were giving of their best – middle aged bloke in a unit sweatshirt was quietly breaking down, and being comforted by his mates –

    Voice behind me – “What’s all this about?”

    Self “Two minutes silence? Remembrance day? Eleventh hour of the eleventh day?”

    Voice behind me “Didn’t think anyone bothered with all that rubbish anymore.”

    I was ready to belt him one, but contented myself with calling him all the useless canutes under the sun. Fortunately, he didn’t speak Afrikaans.

  72. Armadillo

    Most TV’s have a timer setting. The only time our TV ever gets “switched on” is when we go away on holidays for an extended period. On/Off at certain times of the day (but mainly night). Radio is for the day on a timer.

    Also set up lamps in various rooms on 24hr timers. They are about $15 at Bunnings. Lights come on, lights go off. Looks and sounds like people moving about. It’s worked a treat so far.

  73. Siltstone

    Curious. The ALPBC loves to highlight status of west Papuans under Indonesian rule. There are 31 dead in the last week due to local uprising by west Papuans. Extremely low key ALPBC reporting. Why in this case?

  74. Damienski

    I visited a mate’s father in hospital today. Widower. Retired farmer. Carved a multi-million dollar business out of the bush after arriving here as a young immigrant in the 1950s. Looking forward to returning home where he lives by himself on the farm 30 miles from anywhere. After a hip replacement. At 88 years of age. Tough old blighter. Inner-city soy boys and hipster types couldn’t even polish his boots.

  75. JC

    The wombat whisperer earns around 750K from the NAB.

    Yet last week former Treasury boss, now National Australia Bank chairman, Ken Henry delivered a pretentious and prolix lecture, pointing the finger for corporate misdeeds at “the state of capitalism”.

    “The capitalist model is that businesses have no responsibility other than to maximise profits to shareholders,” he said. And public tolerance for this model of accountability had been pretty well eroded, he concluded. In other words, we need a new model. Out with capitalism. In with, well, who knows what? Henry’s claims will have nanny-state interventionists clamouring for “reform” — aka, another layer of regulation to be added to the layers and layers already on the books.

    It’s pretty fucking incredible, this nimbus is chairing one of biggest institutions.

  76. Armadillo

    I think I’ll buy it. What the hell – it’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas.

    Buy yourself the ingredients for a decent eggnog. It will be much more rewarding and memorable than the book. Here’s a spoiler. JP wants you take responsibility for your own actions. Eggnog is a wiser investment.

  77. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Oh God, he’s drunk again.

    From the silly, deranged, old bugger who spends his nights on this blog, raving on about “Rones/Roonery/Rocket”, whoever they are? Try not to judge others by your own conduct, JC, it’s not a good look.

  78. JC

    How did you assume I was talking about you, Ronery? As I said last time, you’re boring repetitious drivel is your best side.

    Knock off the stupid quotes all the time, because we find them annoying, you low wattage idiot.

  79. Up The Workers!

    To None, at 9.10 pm:

    I hope it was an empty one.

    It’d probably make the beer taste funny, otherwise.

  80. Leigh Lowe

    Has anyone else been wondering why Fatty Ashton took about three extended periods of “personal leave” last year.
    Initially I thought it was simply because he was a fat lazy xunt, but could it be that he needed to be out of the chair when critical decisions were being made in the matter of Vicpol v the Victorian DPP in the High Court?

  81. Up The Workers!

    “Can anyone please explain to me why, after going to bed last night, the TV in my lounge room suddenly turned itself on? I haven’t watched TV in months and months and the remote control was in the drawer under the TV?”

    It’s gerbil worming…

    Obviously!

  82. Armadillo

    I can’t understand why anyone critical of Trumps “Border Wall” isn’t asked the following simple question whenever they whinge about it.

    Do you have a fence at your home? Do you have doors on your house? Why?

    It’s a no brainer. The hypocritical pricks should be called on it EVERY SINGLE TIME.

    Same with (and possibly more so) with global warming.

    The best way to rebut stupidity is often to simply keep asking questions. One after the other until they tie themselves in knots. The key to defeating leftism is to pretend you’re actually interested.

    Every answer should be returned with a question. Trust me on this. It’s hilarious.

  83. Ian

    Has Pirate Pete written a book on Malcolm the Godlike yet?

    No, he can’t find enough commas.

  84. Armadillo

    Ask a declared “Socialist Democrat” what a “Socialist Democrat” actually is. Most have no idea, but it sounds pretty cool.

    I shouldn’t jest. Ask any Liberal/Conservative politician that “self identifies” as such and you are probably staring into the eyes of Bill Shorten. They don’t have a clue who they are. Certainly not Liberal, and certainly not Conservative.

  85. Armadillo

    “Democratic Socialists” are cooler than the former. Just another term for NFI.

  86. Armadillo

    Also, Arkys car is shit.

  87. Armadillo

    Even the Paris rioters wouldn’t bother burning it.

  88. Armadillo

    They would probably mistake it for trash and start throwing the “bits and pieces” at the cops.

  89. Armadillo

    Cops throw a tear gas canister, and the rioters would respond with what vaguely resembles a steering wheel.

  90. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Has anyone else been wondering why Fatty Ashton took about three extended periods of “personal leave” last year.

    Deciding how to handball the results of “a dozen detectives, working with an unlimited budget, something almost unknown in the annals of Victoria Police” – the results of Michael Smith’s complaint about one Julia Gilliard – into a brief that could be quietly ignored as soon as possible, must have taken it’s toll. Oh, and FWIW, the individual who revealed the facts about “something almost unknown in the annals of Victoria Police” was one Graham Richardson…I’ve got the press clipping, somewhere.

  91. Oh come on

    Nicole Kidman had a message for moviegoers…. [t]he Australian actor took home the AACTA for her supporting role in Boy Erased.

    Boy Erased, which was nominated for best film, is based on the true story of a teenager put through conversion therapy in the United States not that many years ago.

    Rolled eyes emoji

    It was directed by Joel Edgerton, who appears beside Kidman and Russell Crowe in the film.

    “These films are hard right now. They’re hard to get audiences for. They’re hard to get made,” Kidman said.

    The contempt this woman holds for her golden goose is remarkable. Yes, Nicole. These films are hard to make because the market for them is ridiculously small. Movie-goers simply aren’t interested in imbibing SJW talking points.

  92. Oh come on

    Oops blockquote fail on the first excerpt.

  93. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    27m
    “China officially echoed President Donald Trump’s optimism over bilateral trade talks. Chinese officials have begun preparing to restart imports of U.S. Soybeans & Liquified Natural Gas, the first sign confirming the claims of President Donald Trump and the White House that……
    …..China had agreed to start “immediately” buying U.S. products.”
    @business

  94. Armadillo

    I also saw Arkys video where he cut up his running shoes. Probably a ruse to conceal drugs.

    Drug runner.

  95. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Anyway, Sliante to a young lady, born yesterday morning, from a raffish and rather dissolute Great Uncle. Night, all.

  96. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    51s
    Very strong signals being sent by China once they returned home from their long trip, including stops, from Argentina. Not to sound naive or anything, but I believe President Xi meant every word of what he said at our long and hopefully historic meeting. ALL subjects discussed!

  97. Zyconoclast

    How white racism destroys black wealth

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/11/28/how-white-racism-destroys-black-wealth/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8f9acaec0cf5

    There are a lot of reasons that home prices tend to be lower in black neighborhoods than in white ones. Decades of racist policies put in place by governments and private companies — segregation, redlining, deed restrictions, exclusionary zoning, the deliberate hollowing out of urban cores — have had the net effect of eroding the quality of life in many majority-black neighborhoods nationwide.

    As the authors of a new Brookings Institution-Gallup study note, Zillow data shows that the median listing price of a home in a majority-black neighborhood in a major metro area is around $184,000, while the median listing in a neighborhood where blacks make up less than 1 percent of the population stands at over $341,000.

    But the authors — Andre M. Perry and David Harshbarger of Brookings and Jonathan Rothwell of Gallup — weren’t satisfied with that simple comparison based solely on neighborhood demographics. It’s too easy to explain that difference away with other factors, such as the structural characteristics of the buildings and access to good schools, good jobs and good stores.

    They wanted to isolate the effects of racism alone — to peel off all the other explanatory variables until they could “detect how much racism depletes wealth from black homeowners,” as they put it. In the end, they were left with one number: $48,000.

    There are a lot of reasons that home prices tend to be lower in black neighborhoods than in white ones. Decades of racist policies put in place by governments and private companies — segregation, redlining, deed restrictions, exclusionary zoning, the deliberate hollowing out of urban cores — have had the net effect of eroding the quality of life in many majority-black neighborhoods nationwide.

    As the authors of a new Brookings Institution-Gallup study note, Zillow data shows that the median listing price of a home in a majority-black neighborhood in a major metro area is around $184,000, while the median listing in a neighborhood where blacks make up less than 1 percent of the population stands at over $341,000.

    But the authors — Andre M. Perry and David Harshbarger of Brookings and Jonathan Rothwell of Gallup — weren’t satisfied with that simple comparison based solely on neighborhood demographics. It’s too easy to explain that difference away with other factors, such as the structural characteristics of the buildings and access to good schools, good jobs and good stores.

    They wanted to isolate the effects of racism alone — to peel off all the other explanatory variables until they could “detect how much racism depletes wealth from black homeowners,” as they put it. In the end, they were left with one number: $48,000.

  98. struth

    This is exactly correct Armadillo.
    What I have learned long ago is to ask questions.
    As a tour driver ai could never tell a punter he was a dickhead.
    But I could ask him questions until he told me……and himself in the process.

  99. Armadillo

    America are busily digging and exporting. Australia are busily digging our own economic grave.

  100. Zyconoclast

    Sorry for messy post.

  101. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    One of the very exciting things to come out of my meeting with President Xi of China is his promise to me to criminalize the sale of deadly Fentanyl coming into the United States. It will now be considered a “controlled substance.” This could be a game changer on what is…….
    …..considered to be the worst and most dangerous, addictive and deadly substance of them all. Last year over 77,000 people died from Fentanyl. If China cracks down on this “horror drug,” using the Death Penalty for distributors and pushers, the results will be incredible!

  102. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    WA Labor MP Pierre Yang served aboard suspected China spy ship

    exclusive
    Andrew Burrell
    WA Chief Reporter
    @AndrewBurrell7
    51 minutes ago December 5, 2018
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    West Australian Labor MP Pierre Yang, under fire for his links to pro-China groups, spent three months on a Chinese government vessel hunting for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that security experts suspect was spying on the Australian military.

    The Chinese-born Mr Yang resigned this week from an ­organisation affiliated with the Chinese Communist Party and another that backs Beijing’s ­aggressive military stance in the South China Sea, after The Australian revealed he had failed to disclose them in parliament.

    Sources with a deep understanding of Perth’s Chinese communit­y believe Australi­a’s security agencies are monitoring Mr Yang’s network of associates, many of whom are viewed as sympathetic to the CCP

    Before he entered politics, Mr Yang served as an Army ­Reserve captain and was ­deployed in mid-2016 aboard the Chinese search-and-rescue vessel Dong Hai Jiu 101, in the international search for MH370.

    Premier Mark McGowan issue­d a staunch defence yesterday of his government’s upper-house whip, blaming the media for a “line of attack on Pierre that has been filled with slur and ­innuendo”.

    He said Mr Yang had “represented Australia” in the search for MH370 and the Australian Army would have vetted him before he was assigned to the role.

    Mr Yang, a fluent Mandarin speaker, served as a liaison officer and linguist on board the Dong Hai Jiu 101, working with Chinese personnel and their Australian and American counterparts. He has frequently pointed to his role in the search for MH370 in the southern Indian Ocean as evidence of his record of service for Australia

    However, it emerged in Septembe­r 2016 that the vessel had performed few search operations since arriving at Fremantle in February of that year.

    Instead, it spent most of the time in or just off Fremantle, on “weather standby” in the ­southern Indian Ocean or “north of the search area”.

    Security experts told The Aust­ralian at the time that the vessel would have likely gathered intelligenc­e on Australian militar­y ­activity in “target-rich” WA, which includes the Australian navy submarine base at HMAS Stirling and the Special Air Servic­e Regiment in Perth. “From my past intelligence experien­ce, I would be surprised if a vessel like the Dong Hai Jiu 101 did not have an intelligence-­collection role,” said Clive ­Williams, a former Aust­ralian Army officer who was ­director of security intelligence.

    From the Oz. Let’s see “Sneakers McGowan” bullshit his way out of this, shall we, Cats?

  103. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Looking forward to being with the Bush family. This is not a funeral, this is a day of celebration for a great man who has led a long and distinguished life. He will be missed!

  104. C.L.

    Has anyone else been wondering why Fatty Ashton took about three extended periods of “personal leave” last year.
    Initially I thought it was simply because he was a fat lazy xunt, but could it be that he needed to be out of the chair when critical decisions were being made in the matter of Vicpol v the Victorian DPP in the High Court?

    Interesting question.

  105. Armadillo

    As a tour driver ai could never tell a punter he was a dickhead

    The truth is always revealed by questioning. The bigger the blabber mouth, the more they reveal to the world their stupidity. And people listen and watch and see. And they recognise it.

    This is age old. It’s why we have “press statements” and “speeches” and all the rest of it. Everything is tightly controlled. It’s also why it’s incredibly terrifying what’s happened with the current “so called” media. They don’t question anything, they just repeat it. Talking points.

    All is not lost. Far from it.

    Fighting back is not to argue, but rather “to question” the left voters on a personal level.

    You very quickly discover they don’t have much of an idea about issues (other than what CNN said). The more you ask them questions, the more they question their own beliefs. They can’t give you the answers, so they have to go and find out for themselves.

    The awakening.

    mOnster is in the throws of it as I type. He’s rather dim witted, but he will get there eventually. No one can possibly be so stupidly consistent in their wrongology and not recognise it.

    mOnts will end up sponsoring Catallaxy and be its biggest supporter. We just need to have patience. The gender reassignment drugs will “kick in” and it/she/her will be our mOnsterette.

  106. Armadillo

    Interesting question.

    See what I mean.

  107. Armadillo

    The truth is out there.

    Ask Annie.

  108. Armadillo

    I’m devising a “new record” since Winston “Spit” Smith ruined my old one.

    Let’s call it “date post time”.

  109. Armadillo

    It will involve mathematical prowess and a detectives mind to figure it out.

    I’ll be back.

  110. I was ready to belt him one, but contented myself with calling him all the useless canutes under the sun. Fortunately, he didn’t speak Afrikaans.

    Erm… what was wrong with telling him in English?

  111. Jannie

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2879504, posted on December 5, 2018 at 10:21 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/NqHx1CDRQkc?rel=0

    Beautiful. No military tendency required to appreciate it.

  112. Howard Hill

    Armadillo
    #2879558, posted on December 6, 2018 at 1:18 am

    Fighting back is not to argue, but rather “to question” the left voters on a personal level.

    It’s the most basic of things that we all did as children and it’s what irritates parents to no end – A kid asking why to every damn thing you say.
    Brilliant, Armadillo. We all did it as kids and yet as we get older we seem to forget the most basic of concepts; Always question everything, too easy 🙂

  113. Tintarella di Luna

    There has been some contemplation on what the bent-eared termite will do post his spectacular exit from politics.

    I think he’s ready-made for charcuterie.

  114. bespoke

    Armadillo
    #2879534, posted on December 5, 2018 at 11:49 pm

    The best way to rebut stupidity is often to simply keep asking questions.

    Yep, by doing that my extreme lefty relative has begun to realise how enabling and self destructive leftism is and had gone to see JP and purchased his book. Those street interviews of protesters could be a catalyst for people to change minds if done right to.

  115. Tom

    Haha. For those who don’t know, Henry Payne is a revhead and spends most of each day thing about fast cars.

  116. Tom

    thinking about fast cars.

  117. rickw

    One of the very exciting things to come out of my meeting with President Xi of China is his promise to me to criminalize the sale of deadly Fentanyl coming into the United States.

    Highly likely that Xi is lying.

  118. Just Interested

    Zanetti hits it out of the park.

  119. OldOzzie

    Finger Slip and Blind Eyes

    Thanks Tom

  120. egg_

    Zanetti hits it out of the park.

    +1

    Trumble to a tee.

  121. egg_

    Do the Trumble Coalition Team’s colours change with their mood?

  122. OldOzzie

    Surprised there were no comments on my criptic post on Page 1 of this thread. as I thought Cat Bloggers were the elite of investigation and deduction

  123. OldOzzie

    Surprised there were no comments on my cryptic post on Page 1 of this thread. as I thought Cat Bloggers were the elite of investigation and deduction

  124. OldOzzie

    Surprised there were no comments on my cryptic post on Page 1 of this thread. as I thought Cat Bloggers were the elite of investigation and deduction

  125. .

    It’s just a…wink…solar flare…wink, or the Cabal bleach bitting their worldwide evil criminality or Marines arresting thousands of very bad people, or glitchy malware. 😉

    Who or what is “the cabal”? The Marines, of course, won’t arrest a single person you certifiable loon.

  126. OldOzzie

    egg_
    #2879589, posted on December 6, 2018 at 7:01 am

    Zanetti hits it out of the park.

    +1

    Trumble to a tee.

    Not sure – Lucy Turdbull would be be attracted by his display of vanity not repelled

  127. notafan

    I’m just disappointed the internet is still here.

    You promised!

  128. notafan

    Repost it oldozzie and we shall do our very best

  129. .

    struth
    #2879431, posted on December 5, 2018 at 8:34 pm

    I just heard on Sky that the economists were “surprised” at Australia’s economic demise.
    Proving once again that when it comes to economics, economists make good gardeners.

    I have told you numerous times that anyone who is a lefty cannot honestly claim to be an economist (and they should hand back their degree/s) yet you refuse to listen to my fatherly advice.

    The theory and evidence reveal that any positive claim about Marxism, living wages, compulsory retirement saving, the efficacy of “counter-cyclical” spending and digrisme is at least rather spurious but usually totally false.

    If you want to waste your time listening to Stephen Koukoulas and so on, fine, waste your finite life.

    Here’s another one: all truck drivers are either totally incompetent 457 visa guys who can’t stop shitting under the seat or are alcoholic fat slobs and well connected to the unions and OMCGs with a propensity to sexual assault and serial murdering, especially the mass murder of illegal immigrants and otherwise in weirdo vampire sex stuff…or burying union bosses that don’t tow the line of the ‘ndrangheta.

    Gee, this is fun.

  130. notafan

    What people do when the was (is nearly) over.

    Of course for muslims it’s never actually over, it’s why you have to have strong man leaders, to keep your murderous ideology under control

    that’s what you do, you go home and rebuild your culture

  131. OldOzzie

    notafan
    #2879599, posted on December 6, 2018 at 7:22 am

    Repost it oldozzie and we shall do our very best

    OldOzzie
    #2879189, posted on December 5, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    jrwhite commented Nov 22, 2018

    [email protected]
    Here is the .xpi file. Github doesn’t allow uploading .xpi files so i added a .txt extension. Remove that after you download it. To install on firefox, naviagte to the .xpi file, right click, ‘open with’ firefox.

  132. .

    Yep, by doing that my extreme lefty relative has begun to realise how enabling and self destructive leftism is and had gone to see JP and purchased his book. Those street interviews of protesters could be a catalyst for people to change minds if done right to.

    I like the boy, but what JP says isn’t remarkable. He may be a remarkable man, but his views are pretty much…what was once called common sense.

    As for the intellectual dark web, I’d say I could listen to Peter Schiff, Eric Weinstein, von Hippel and Randall Carson.

    JP is like Crowder to me, good for belling the cat on the more ridiculous stuff the left pulls.

    You know, David Spade predicted all of this back in 1993. I’m not even joking.

  133. notafan

    Does it work oldozzie?

  134. Anne

    You probably heard about the strange seismic waves that went around the Earth last month.

    Joe M @StormIsUponUs


    Did you know CERN was blasting the earth with Stupid Rays. Yes, magnetic frequencies that make people dumb, compliant and disengaged. The cabal took control of the technology in the 50s and weaponized it against us. On 11/11, the alliance shut it down. I feel smarter already.

  135. calli

    I’m just disappointed the internet is still here.

    You promised!

    No, no! This is a cleverly crafted quasi-reality imposed upon us by Our Lizard Overlords.

    Here, take a red pill and all will be revealed!

  136. calli

    Ahhhhh! I did wonder.

    Thanks Anne.

  137. calli

    Zanetti is perfect this morning.

  138. calli

    Three in a row. My thread now.

  139. egg_

    I’m just disappointed the internet is still here.

    You promised!

    No, no! This is a cleverly crafted quasi-reality imposed upon us by Our Lizard Overlords.

    Here, take a red pill and all will be revealed!

    We lizard people like it this way.

  140. OldOzzie

    notafan
    #2879606, posted on December 6, 2018 at 7:35 am

    Does it work oldozzie?

    yes, have been using on Firefox for over a year on my wife’s iMac and had put it on my daughter;s iMac with Firefox (she uses Chrome) here in MEL – Daughter’s iMac had a crash and her backup did not include the adon extension and when I went to find, Firefox and Chrome no longer listed (surprise, surprise) – so the web came to the rescue with the solution above downloaded took out .txt and open as suggested and working perfectly

  141. OldOzzie

    OldOzzie
    #2879613, posted on December 6, 2018 at 7:43 am

    notafan
    #2879606, posted on December 6, 2018 at 7:35 am

    Does it work oldozzie? – yes enjoy The Australian, AFR, WSJ etc

  142. notafan

    Stupid Rays

    Okay

    Must have been very selective, either that or some people were coming off a very low base

    Someone telling others to go outside and look at the sky clearly spends way more time on the internet than anyone else here

    Perhaps it is the Special Internet for Special People that is being hit by solar flares (controlled by Lizard People, who else?).

  143. .

    Q most likely is a psyop to discredit the populist Trump movement and red pill ideas that you might see from the intellectual dark web [even ones I may not agree with – dissent and disagreement is great, at least the right thinks and has free discussion…].

    Anyone dumb enough to believe JFK Jnr is still alive should probably sign up for Branson’s voluntary B Ark ride straight into the sun.

    Q could merely be a Democrat or progressive shill, or a Deep Stater with too much time on their fat, clammy public servant lardarse, but it is clearly a very nasty and cynical disinformation effort to shit all over Trump and any contrarians today.

    Much like how the most prominent birthers were lifelong registered Democrats, something they were not forthcoming about.

    Pretty sad that someone would decide to dedicate their lives to deceiving their common man and defending the utterly dishonest mainstream media, the sheer nonsense perpetuated at Evergreen State College, taking our cues on energy policy from an unemployed, bucket mouthed and unironically privileged 15-year-old Danish girl, as well as the graft of the Clintons & massive waste in Western public administration that has plagued us since the 1970s.

    Such a mindset is institutionalised over a certain level of government spending as a proportion of GDP. Some people who are institutionally conservative now would gladly go along with this nonsense. More cynical ones simply know on which side of their bread the butter is spread by others for them.

  144. Mother Lode

    Ha!

    Even Zanetti calls him Trumble.

    I thought it was mostly Cats that kept that ego-pricking diplomatic moment alive.

    We really should lobby Trump to coin a similar mis-rendering of Morrison’s name.

  145. Mater

    Love your work, Anne.
    You remind me of an irreverent Arky before he mutated into the all-too-serious Death Giraffe.
    Keep’em coming. They always make me smile. 😉

  146. notafan

    Crumble bumble tumble fumble stumble so many things can be done by a Trumble

    Exception to the rule being humble.

    Interesting he is a member of the genus Bottersnikes, definitely not a Gumble.

  147. stackja

    Music festivals hit a sour note on gender and sexual diversity
    Jack Houghton, The Daily Telegraph
    December 6, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    The taxpayer-funded Australian Music Industry Network has told a parliamentary inquiry that government intervention is needed to make festival line-ups more diverse.

    “If the industry is perceived to be hostile to diverse people, then its attractiveness as a career destination will be threatened and limit the industry’s potential growth,” AMIN chair Joel Edmondson wrote in his submission.

  148. Bruce of Newcastle

    You probably heard about the strange seismic waves that went around the Earth last month.

    Subsea volcanic eruption near Mayotte.

  149. notafan

    It might be comedic to regulars but as dot points out re Q to the casual visitor it makes the site look loony.

  150. Anne

    Mater, the truth about our world is available but 99% of people prefer the soft droning hum of the propaganda MEDIA on their Television sets. The choice to know will be theirs.

    Are you well?

  151. Mater

    I’m great. Thanks for asking.

  152. notafan

    Enforced diversity followed by enforced attendance.

    There is so much irrational, unreadable stupid there.

    I suppose international tours should headline diversity musos too.

    The punters will pay because diversity trumps your listening pleasure/personal preference.

  153. stackja

    Premier Mark McGowan backs China-link MP Pierre Yang
    Gary Adshead PerthNow
    December 6, 2018 5:01AM

    Premier Mark McGowan says there was no need for Labor MP Pierre Yang to declare links to two Perth groups that actively promote the Chinese Government and its ruling Communist Party because the rules allow MPs to use their discretion.

    Mr Yang has been forced to resign from the two associations after claiming he overlooked his membership when making “interests and positions” disclosures to Parliament.

    Mr McGowan defended Mr Yang yesterday, arguing there was no legal requirement for him to include the groups when filing his annual returns.

    “It’s discretionary on your disclosures what memberships you put on there,” he said. “You’ll find very few members of Parliament put any disclosures of organisations we are members of because generally we’re members of scores of them.”

  154. Bruce of Newcastle

    Pls tell 4th wife she’s going to be washing underpants:

    BOO!

  155. Mater

    It might be comedic to regulars but as dot points out re Q to the casual visitor it makes the site look loony.

    Possibly nota, but Anne is right more often than Monty.

  156. notafan

    I’m not sure that is a complimentary comment Mater.

    I’m fascinated about what was ‘right’ too

  157. Zyconoclast

    Nearly 1 in 3 US physicians were born abroad

    https://m.medicalxpress.com/news/2018-12-physicians-born.html

    At a time when immigration is a hot-button issue, the American health care system is highly dependent on professionals born in other countries, an analysis of U.S. census data shows.

    In 2016, roughly 17 percent of professionals in 24 medical fields—from optometrists to chiropractors to veterinarians—were foreign-born, and almost 5 percent of them were not U.S. citizens, according to the analysis published this week in the Journal of the American Medical Association. The analysis could not distinguish between professionals trained in their country of origin and those trained in the United States.

    The rates were even higher for the most educated providers. About one in five pharmacists, one in four dentists, and 29 percent of physicians—approaching one in three—were foreign-born.

    Among one of the biggest occupational groups—psychiatric, nursing and home health aides—23 percent were foreign-born.

  158. .

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    Aren’t musicians weird enough?

    Please stop oppressing them with more weirdness, okay?

  159. Black Ball

    Good morning all. Haven’t touched a newspaper in some time so today I am heartened to reading today’s Hun that Australian cricket selectors have dumped Mitch Marsh. Crash Craddock in one sentence sums up Marsh thus:
    ‘Marsh is not a Test-match batsman or bowler.’

  160. notafan

    Israel putting Lebanon on notice.

  161. stackja

    How time validated gangland lawyer Zarah Garde-Wilson’s hunch
    Patrick Carlyon and Anthony Dowsley, Herald Sun
    December 5, 2018 9:40pm
    Subscriber only

    It’s the lot of doctors and ­defence lawyers.

    The panicked call in the middle of the night. Come now. It’s an emergency.

    The caller was an 18-year-old man, though he sounded younger. He had been picked up in a Mokbel drug sting.

    He hadn’t done much, not by the measures of Melbourne’s gangland swamp, when meth labs were popping up anew whenever a police raid shut one down.

    The best legal advice that could be given: say nothing.

    Solicitor Zarah ­Garde-­Wilson duly turned up at the St Kilda Rd Police Station.

    And waited.

    It might be an hour, perhaps three, before detectives would allow her to see her client.

    This time, the ritual would take an odd turn. Lawyer X, a barrister, would materialise, all huff and assertiveness, to be ushered through by a familiar detective.

    A text message beeped on Garde-Wilson’s phone. It was Lawyer X. She was dismissing Garde-Wilson: “All sorted. You can go home.”

    Garde-Wilson did not go home. She had known Lawyer X for some time. She didn’t trust her.

  162. .

    professionals in 24 medical fields—from optometrists to chiropractors to veterinarians

    I’m too lazy to make a comment about pony play and Gino Vanelli. Maybe it’s for the polyamorous, gender fluid and fabulous unicorns?

  163. .

    Did the police, or more specifically, senior police such as senior detectives or the commissioner, commit an offence by refusing the young man his legal representative instead of their corrupt supergrass?

  164. How low can Turn-failure go??

    How about “leaking to the Guardian” low.

    Finally, it’s official.

    He’s working for Labor. Like he always was.

  165. Leigh Lowe

    .

    #2879640, posted on December 6, 2018 at 8:39 am

    Did the police, or more specifically, senior police such as senior detectives or the commissioner, commit an offence by refusing the young man his legal representative instead of their corrupt supergrass?

    This is where the powers of the RC are great.
    She and others can be asked these things under oaf.
    The most interesting link would be to find who at St Kilda Rd HQ called NG if it wasn’t the man under arrest.

  166. stackja

    Simon Overland crushed Lawyer X critics, police insiders say
    Anthony Dowsley and Patrick Carlyon, Herald Sun
    December 5, 2018 9:40pm
    Subscriber only

    One of former top cop Simon Overland’s key detectives was directing gangland suspects to Lawyer X, it can be revealed.

    Mr Overland, architect of the scheme in which Lawyer X informed on her clients, is under increasing pressure to explain his role, as sources close to her handlers admit that police bosses knew it was putting “lives at risk”.

    The Herald Sun can now reveal allegations that a “point person”, a major crimes detective, was ordered to encourage suspects picked up for questioning to engage Lawyer X to represent them.

    Lawyer X would then advise the suspects to give evidence that would bolster police cases against bigger targets, obtain information which would enable police to set up stings, or convince them to turn informer themselves.

    Solicitor Zarah Garde-Wilson says that one 18-year-old was told by Lawyer X to confess, despite there being little corroborating evidence against him.

    A police insider close to the scheme has told the Herald Sun that everyone involved understood that the “judicial system was manipulated”, but they were under orders from Mr Overland to push ahead.

    “We were risking our lives and the lives of our assets,” one said.

    A furious Mr Overland, now chief executive of Whittlesea Council, lashed out at a Herald Sun photographer on Wednesday morning, trying to slap a camera out of his hands.

    Former detective Paul Dale, who Lawyer X sought to implicate in the murder of police informer Terence Hodson, on Wednesday told The Australian he felt sorry for her.

    “It’s the chief commissioners and assistant commissioners who have done this — they are the ones that need to be absolutely held accountable,” he said.

  167. Anne

    I don’t know what Monty says about anything but I’m not sure it’s a compliment either, Nota. I doubt he’s calling out the Cabal or the UN Agenda 21/30.

    There’s a quote something about the more you know the more you realise how much you don’t know and the less you know the more you think you know.

    The choice to know will be yours.

    The information is available. You just need to add a little brain power to join the dots.

  168. Leigh Lowe

    A furious Mr Overland, now chief executive of Whittlesea Council, lashed out at a Herald Sun photographer on Wednesday morning, trying to slap a camera out of his hands.

    The smug, cool demeanour has deserted him it would seem.

  169. Anthony

    Expel Turncoat from the party and enrol him in the pardy so all can see him for what he is.

  170. stackja

    Women flock to retro show

    Melbourne barrister NG said: “What a fantastic program. I’m already a fan… It’s always good to be able to laugh at reality and it’s reality TV for the suburbs. I’m not a suburban housewife but I think it’s fabulous.”

  171. Rae

    Expel Turncoat from the party

    His 2016 Election donation didn’t buy him life membership?

  172. stackja

    State Government land clearing laws blamed for intesity of fires
    Renee Viellaris, The Courier-Mail
    December 6, 2018 1:00am
    Subscriber only

    FARMERS are demanding a far-reaching commission of inquiry into the state’s week-long, destructive infernos and have blamed the Palaszczuk Government’s “green-inspired” land-clearing laws of exacerbating the bush fires.

    As the devastating damage bill and emotional toll unfolds, peak farming group ­AgForce, and individual farmers, have accused the Government’s “confusing” and constantly changing ­Vegetation Management Act from allowing them to protect their land from fire.

    Northern Australia Minister Matt Canavan told The Courier-Mail last night that a judicial inquiry – just like the Queensland Floods Commission of Inquiry in 2011 – was needed to “get to the bottom” of whether Labor’s laws ­contributed to central Queensland’s shocking fires.

    AgForce’s Greg Leach backed the call.

    It has also emerged Scott Morrison has offered the State Government use of the Australian Defence Force to help in the recovery, but it has been refused.

    In a letter to Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk, Capricornia MP Michelle Landry, MP for Flynn Ken O’Dowd and Dawson MP George Christensen said there were 300 soldiers from 7th Brigade and 75 from 3rd Brigade on standby, ready to help.

  173. stackja

    Australian economy losing steam as bumpy ride looms
    Jeff Whalley, The economy, Herald Sun
    December 5, 2018 8:57pm
    Subscriber only

    Australia’s economy is losing steam as consumers tighten the purse strings and the housing market deteriorates, official figures reveal.

    And the slowdown is likely to stay the hand of the Reserve Bank, which will probably wait far longer before moving to lift the cash rate — and may yet cut it, analysts say.

    The economy, measured by gross domestic product, grew 0.3 per cent in the three months to September, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

    That was the slowest rate for any quarter in two years. Over the year to September, GDP grew 2.8 per cent, down from 3.1 per cent three months earlier.

    Economists had broadly expected GDP to grow a far more robust 0.6 per cent the past quarter and 3.3 per cent the past year.

    The lacklustre revelations on Wednesday coincided with fresh concerns about the outlook for the global economy — a development that weighed heavily on the share market.

    Analysts have grown sceptical that the truce brokered last weekend in the trade stoush between the US and China will last.

    After key Wall Street indices fell more than 3 per cent overnight Tuesday, Australia’s benchmark ASX 200 index dropped 1.8 per cent in early trade. It recovered much of that ground but still closed more than 40 points, or almost 0.8 per cent, lower.

  174. Mater

    I don’t know what Monty says about anything but I’m not sure it’s a compliment either, Nota.

    I wouldn’t read too much into my statement. I’m highlightly that Monty gets treated as a serious contributor despite being wrong about almost everything…except the longevity of Ginsburg.
    We are all parts of the sum total.
    Catallaxy is a broad church. 😉

  175. calli

    From Stack’s link:

    In 1963 Betty Friedan published her groundbreaking work The Feminine Mystique, about American mothers going nuts in the ‘burbs. Friedan wrote of women, having made the beds, done the shopping, eaten peanut butter sandwiches with the kids, lying beside their husbands at night afraid “to ask even of herself the silent question: ‘Is this all?’ “

    These days they leave the beds unmade and the washing-up in the dishwasher, battle the traffic, race around the supermarket after work grabbing unhealthy meal substitutes, eat their lunch hunched over a computer screen while wondering whether their little ones are okay at the baby educator’s, then topple exhausted into bed after bringing in the clothes at 10pm and leaving them in a tumbled heap in the laundry.

    And they still wonder “Is this all?”

  176. Anne

    The smug, cool demeanour has deserted him it would seem.

    We’ll see this increasingly as the Globalist puppets lose their power or alternatively are activated to go feral.

    Trump broke them.

    Enjoy the show.

  177. stackja

    Terry McCrann: Slow growth, credit squeeze to hit us in 2019
    Terry McCrann, Herald Sun
    December 5, 2018 8:49pm
    Subscriber only

    First we woke up to the “horror night” on Wall St, then just before lunch we got the official data that blew the Aussie growth story out of the water. Happy — end of the world — New Year.

    Yes, the Dow plunged 800 points. But there’s a “lot of plunging” available in a Dow that was pushing 26,000 points — I can remember when a 3000 Dow was boom time — thanks to The Donald 1.0 and The Donald 2.0.

    The “first version” of President Trump was his election in November 2016 and his policy delivery — most critically the slashing of both personal and corporate tax rates — which sent Wall St rocketing up nearly 50 per cent to a new all-time by the start of this year.

    On Wednesday I cautioned that the steady RBA rate decision was far less significant than the developing credit squeeze because the big four banks have been rendered catatonic by the Royal Commission.

    You might say they’ve been frozen in the pleading glare of counsel assisting, Rowena Orr QC, and are now petrified at making a “bad” loan — so they’ve all but slammed the till on small and medium business and to a slightly lesser extent property investors.

    A careful parsing of the words chosen by RBA governor Philip Lowe in announcing a no rate-change told us that the RBA was alert but not yet alarmed over the credit squeeze. It was not signalling the economy was heading over a credit-squeezed cliff.

    Exactly the same applies to the “shock” news that overall growth in the economy came in at just 0.3 per cent in the September quarter. We should be alert but not — yet? — alarmed, just like the RBA.

    Always the first big point: a single quarter numbers are dodgy.

    You are best to put two quarters together. That gives us a more respectable 2.4 per cent annualised growth rate over the June-September half.

    That’s still not great, and it is a statistically — and real-world — difference to the 3.5 per cent the RBA forecast for the December year which is about to end and even the slightly lower 3.25 per cent for 2019, that it predicted just a month ago.

    A big message to take out is that what happens to our economy in 2019 now pivots critically and almost entirely on what happens to jobs.

    Consumers are stretched. Wages are growing at a modest pace, household debt and repayments are high — we are basically chewing through our incomes and having little left to save.

    We could see a seminal shift in the RBA’s rhetoric at its first meeting back in February — not only formally burying the hike that’s been “somewhere in the future” for two years now, but opening the door in the opposite direction.

  178. pete m

    Mater, m0nty is mostly sane and only occasionally reaches for the tin foil.

    Anne must be bathing in it.

    Don’t encourage her/it.

    I’m not convinced it is a deception / fun exercise.

    I just wish it would stop as it demeans the site.

  179. stackja

    calli
    #2879653, posted on December 6, 2018 at 9:10 am

    And others? Like NG?

  180. Old School Conservative

    When will Lawyer X be named?

  181. Tintarella di Luna

    Pls tell 4th wife she’s going to be washing underpants:

    BOO!

    Tinnitus might be a problem too

  182. Anne

    We are all parts of the sum total.

    We sure are, Mater, especially folks like you and me. 😉

    We are all on the same side despite many useful idiots still pushing the Left/Right divide and every other divisive, distracting category.

    Soon people will start to look up at those who CONTROL us instead of sideways at each other.

    Btw, I never take offence. As for insults and snark from anonymous internet handles, something, something duck’s water.

  183. Old School Conservative

    while wondering whether their little ones are okay at the baby educator’s,

    Calli, I am sure there is some technowhizgig that allows the harried mums to watch their little ones from afar.
    But yes, bring on a husband and wife tax sharing arrangement that allows one to stay home and bring up their children.

  184. Top Ender

    For God’s sake go! Then again she might be back:

    Liberal insiders say Julie Bishop will retire from parliament just before the next election, despite speculation she might consider a career as opposition leader should the government lose the election, and despite the fact she has been re-endorsed for her seat of Curtin.

    One theory in Liberal ranks is the former foreign minister is waiting until the last minute to announce what she is doing to prevent a move by future leadership aspirant Attorney-­General Christian Porter, whose seat of Pearce is on a 3.6 per cent margin, into the much safer Curtin.

    Mr Porter recently bought a unit in Wembley, within Curtin, as an investment property but denies he would be interested in Curtin and insists he will run for Pearce. Some Liberal insiders say Ms ­Bishop has made it known privately she will not stick around for the next term of government.

    She was dis­appointed her West Australian and factional colleagues did not support her in the leadership contest after Malcolm Turnbull was rolled.

    A friend of Ms Bishop said yesterday: “Certainly there’s not a whole lot of love from her for Christian Porter, who I’m sure would look forward to taking her seat.

    “She hasn’t made up her mind. People have (made) various ­offers but … all options are open.”

    In a statement, Ms Bishop said: “I was preselected as the Liberal candidate for Curtin in May of this year, and it is my intention to contest the next federal election.”

    In recent days, she has called for a bipartisan approach on energy policy, with some Liberals questioning whether she is angling for an overseas posting with a ­future Labor government.

    Link

  185. mh

    George HW Bush’ Democrat opponent in 1988 was Gov Michael Dukakis, who liked to release murderers.

    Willie Horton 1988 Attack Ad

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Io9KMSSEZ0Y

  186. Snoopy

    In recent days, she has called for a bipartisan approach on energy policy, with some Liberals questioning whether she is angling for an overseas posting with a ­future Labor government.

    Don’t tell me Bishop’s $140 million donation to the Clinton Foundation was for nought?

  187. Mater

    I’m fascinated about what was ‘right’ too

    Just an example:

    Anne
    #1959017, posted on February 27, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    “Betrayed women”???
    What are you talking about, Dot. Women have not been “betrayed”!
    We are going about our business, doing all the things that non-women are doing with equality of opportunity and equality under the law. That battle was fought and won by our grandmothers and great grandmothers.
    You are really getting sucked into the narrative of the outraged, victim pimping, resentment industry of the Left.
    Stop pushing that BS.

  188. struth

    Good Moaning.

    Diversity in Music, forced?

    I should be in for a lot of work then.
    I’m the only stocky, truck driver looking, 51 year old white guy, who is right wing and a muso (part time) in the whole area!
    It’s actually a curiosity that many are confused about when they first see me setting up.
    I will be forced to go full time now!!!

    Racist wankers.
    Forced diversity is social engineering practiced by racists and sexists.

    I note the Left wing MSM can’t understand why Trump is taking on China.
    They believe nit’s pointless.
    They believe China is going to be the new leading superpower of the world and Trump should just make the best of it.
    Cower to communism, if you will.
    Typical Australian apathetic surrender monkeys.

  189. Top Ender

    URGENT SAFETY ADVICE TO ALL CATS FOR THE HOLIDAY SEASON:

    Most people experience a level of shyness or nervousness around things like attending a formal function or addressing a crowd at some point in their lives, says Dr Blashki.

    But it’s when those feelings are ongoing and interfere with day-to-day life that it becomes social anxiety disorder.

    “Physical symptoms can include flushing, heart racing, perspiring, trembling … and often their mind is racing with thoughts like, ‘People are looking at me and judging me’,” Dr Blashki says.

    ….Dr Blashki recalls a patient who found visiting cafes stressful.

    but then again:

    When we asked…about safety strategies like “letting the host know you are nervous”, he said it was “a bit of a cop out”.

    ….”As a GP, it’s a condition I really enjoy managing, because people do get better.”

    These people are beyond parody.

    Note how GPs are now spending taxpayer dollars seeing people who are “socially anxious”…

  190. Senile Old Guy

    I did the test:

    Your score falls into the low range. This means you’re doing pretty well. But if you still have concerns about how you’re feeling, it’s a good idea to speak to a GP anyway.

    There’s nothing wrong with me but “it’s a good idea to speak to a GP anyway”.

  191. Snoopy

    Fatty Ashton foolishly claiming that the identity of Lawyer X is unknown to the Melbourne underworld.

  192. struth

    Bishop is now just about to put her well paid for (by us) UN career in motion.
    She has just sat back to make sure there was no possibility of becoming PM, and once she realised it’s over for her here, she’ll be off faster than a bride’s nightie.

    All well predicted here at the Cat.
    My unfounded conspiracy theory is that she is still liked by Gutterres and the UN socialists, they see failure in Malcom however, and that he has caused a set back, so like Rudd, will be shunned.
    If Gutterres was Doctor No, there’d be a trap door used over a pool of sharks for Malcom.
    He has been an abject failure in life and shown himself to have failed everyone, not just the Australian people, which he planned to, but his UN overlords.
    Slimy Bitchchops will move in, and shiny red shoes will be seen poking out from under Gutterres desk.

  193. stackja

    George H. W. Bush funeral, time to remember, a little history. Today is December 6, the day before ‘a date which will live in infamy’.

  194. I have $1 AUD that says that the RC into supergrass will find that there is insufficient evidence to prosecute any senior vikpol plods. (and they were just young and naive)

  195. struth

    We are all on the same side despite many useful idiots still pushing the Left/Right divide and every other divisive, distracting category.

    There is still very much a left right divide.
    How can you claim there isn’t?
    What is Gutterres?

  196. stackja

    mh
    #2879666, posted on December 6, 2018 at 9:36 am

    And Dukakis tanked
    Michael Dukakis in an M1 Abrams tank

  197. Anne

    Well played, Mater. Don’t do that again. 😉

    That was before I realised the “Left” was those who sought to control us; these guys – Governments, Big Pharma, Big Food not dopey but well meaning cats.

    Wanna be red-pulled?

    Wanna start at the top?

    Who are the Payseurs?

  198. Anne

    Red-PILLED!!!

    Sorry. That sounds awful.

  199. struth

    That was a panic post Anne.

    Why is there not a left wing right wing divide?

  200. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2879676, posted on December 6, 2018 at 9:51 am

    Like another young and naive person?
    In the past Glenn Milne and Michael Smith were in trouble over other young and naive person.

  201. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6462507/Single-mums-12-kids-want-money-Centrelink.html#reader-comments

    Your taxes at work. Um, if you haven’t figured how babies are made, after ELEVEN children, isn’t there something wrong, somewhere?

  202. struth

    The Left.
    Those that want centralised governance from the top down, and put the state before the individual.
    The corrupt rich (like Soros) benefit from this.
    He is left wing, etc, and anyone down to the lowest bogan in Geelong who supports top down governance is.
    The right believe in Democracy, the individual and personal responsibility, and free markets etc.
    The extreme right winger would be an anarchist.

    The divide could not be more obvious.
    People have many different stations and jobs in either side, but to claim there is no left and right wing is ahistorical nonsense.
    Name anyone and they are either left or right wing, with a few sops like Abbott hanging about in no man’s land.

  203. struth

    Your taxes at work. Um, if you haven’t figured how babies are made, after ELEVEN children, isn’t there something wrong, somewhere?

    More stork killing wind generators required.

  204. Anne

    The second one certainly was, Struth. 🙂

    I guess you could say The Left are those who seek or have power to control others and The Right want individual soverignty, to live and let live.

    Slavery versus Freedom.

    Or Coercion versus Anarchy, maybe.

    All societies, it seems, inexorably move toward slavery.

    Anyway that’s all academic. It doesn’t matter.

    The world is about to change.

  205. P

    Name anyone and they are either left or right wing, with a few sops like Abbott hanging about in no man’s land.

    However much he disappointed as PM I think it unfair and incorrect to call TA ‘a sop’.

  206. Tom

    …once she realised it’s over for her here, she’ll be off faster than a bride’s nightie.

    In this era-from-hell of language fascism — enforced by the human trash of our new ruling class — I had been seriously worried I’d never hear than marvellous turn of phrase again. Thanks, Struth.

  207. Old School Conservative

    I’m with you on that one P.

  208. Zyconoclast

    ARLINGTON, Va. — A northern Virginia high school that is removing Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee’s name could be renamed for an interracial couple.

    A 21-member committee appointed by the Arlington County school board is recommending that Washington-Lee High School be renamed as Washington-Loving.

    The proposed new name would honor Mildred and Richard Loving, a Virginia couple whose legal challenge led the U.S. Supreme Court to strike down the state’s law banning interracial marriage.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-hs-could-be-renamed-for-interracial-couple-over-lee/2018/12/04/5a51ecae-f7b3-11e8-8642-c9718a256cbd_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.acb53ebe50ce

  209. Tom

    Strayan bowlers have to hope there’s lots of bounce in the new Adelaide drop-in pitch (which used to be a road). Batting first, Injuns in the box seat to win the first Test.

  210. Elle

    Bitter Hillary Clinton snubs Trumps at Bush funeral

    Speaks volumes about her. Nose in the air. Snobby sore loser, sitting next to her unfaithful husband – the pussy peruser from way back when.

  211. Zyconoclast

    Sixty-eight percent of Democrats say employers should grant a request for prayer space by Muslims — but only 45 percent say employers should grant a similar request by Christian employees, says a survey by Grinnell College.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/04/poll-shows-huge-democrat-bias-toward-muslims-over-christians/

    Why provide prayer rooms for anyone?

  212. Bruce of Newcastle

    The proposed new name would honor Mildred and Richard Loving, a Virginia couple whose legal challenge led the U.S. Supreme Court to strike down the state’s law banning interracial marriage.

    So they’re going to rename the school “Dick Loving High”?

  213. Infidel Tiger

    Win the toss, Win the Test in Adelaide.

    Let’s hope the Aussies can bounce back in Perth.

  214. thefrollickingmole

    The taxpayer-funded Australian Music Industry Network

    …first up against the wall when the revolution comes.

  215. H B Bear

    The Lieboral rats all making plans for Opposition. Curtin is the Journolotto of politics – a seat for life. I can’t see Porter slumming it in a Wembley unit for long, although it is good to see him put his mark on the seat like a cur dog pissing on a tree. Having completely buggered the WA economy through the boom with Emperor Barney (RIP) before bailing for Canberra his record of underachievement is sound.

    The Performing Stick Insect will be waiting for her UNiParty friend Peanut Head to put her on the cocktail circuit full time booting either Sloppy Joe or Abetz in the US or London. The should allow a few months for polo and a European holiday with the himbo, perhaps the taxpayer can pick up the tab like Combet’s French cycling holiday with his ALPBC floozie. She won’t even need a pair in Parliament as Peanut Head will have a 20 seat majority.

    Failing ever upwards for their Lieboral bug-persons.

  216. thefrollickingmole

    So they’re going to rename the school “Dick Loving High”?

    Thats the internet won for today… and so early.

  217. H B Bear

    Is there a cricket match on?

  218. thefrollickingmole

    Having completely buggered the WA economy through the boom with Emperor Barney (RIP) before bailing for Canberra his record of underachievement is sound.

    Nothing to do with receiving SFA in the dollar from GST then?
    Luckily the Libs sprang into action to fix that for the new WA Labor state government eh?

  219. calli

    Just had an F18 hurtle low over my house. The kids are out having fun today.

    The new F35s fly into Williamtown on Monday and apparently they will do a Bay flyover. I can hardly wait for the roar.

  220. calli

    Lee was loyal to his home state of Virginia.

    And they have rewarded him accordingly.

  221. Infidel Tiger

    Why does the welcome to country dude have a bone through his nose?

  222. Infidel Tiger

    Bishop has been given the nod as the next GG.

  223. Viva

    Aaah Dukakis. Brings back memories of my lefty days when I wanted Dukakis to win. I remember thinking he looked far more interesting than GW Bush whom I considered the typical white bread politician. At least I didn’t think he was a lizard!

    https://www.vox.com/2014/11/5/7158371/lizard-people-conspiracy-theory-explainer

  224. Tom

    She won’t even need a pair in Parliament as Peanut Head will have a Victoriaesque 20 50 seat majority.

    Fixed it for you, Humphrey.

  225. Senile Old Guy

    Sports broadcaster Gerard Whateley has opened up on the spat between him and former Australian Test captain Michael Clarke. Whateley had claimed Australian cricket’s cultural issues could be traced back to Clarke’s appointment as captain, prompting a social media rant from Clarke, in which he labelled the former ABC Grandstand commentator a “headline-chasing coward”.

    I don’t normally agree with Michael Clarke but this time he is spot on. Whateley has spent his entire life in the media. He has never done anything else except work in the media. Clarke was not my favourite cricket captain but, damn, he could bat. From 2004, he “worked” at the ABC. Exactly why anyone pays any attention to this twit is a mystery to me.

  226. mh

    Bitter Hillary Clinton snubs Trumps at Bush funeral

    Speaks volumes about her. Nose in the air. Snobby sore loser, sitting next to her unfaithful husband – the pussy peruser from way back when.

    Bill looked like he wanted to do do something but knew how sour Hillary was.

  227. Rae

    Bitter Hillary Clinton snubs Trumps at Bush funeral

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Pu0DuRMibXw

    BS video with BS voice-over. Slick Willie was ready to shake hands, but the old stony-faced PGiC didn’t acknowledge him. Just sat back with his usual down-in-the-mouth expression. Hillary was 4 seats away, a bit far for a meet and greet with the PGiC.

  228. Rae

    5 seats away. I missed the Slovenian woman.

  229. H B Bear

    Bishop has been given the nod as the next GG.

    I hope Peanut Head doesn’t mistake her for Chloe’s Mum. That would be awks.

    Interesting thought. You should try and monetize that one IT.

  230. feelthebern

    The Oz is reporting that Comm Bank & Westpac have recently employed both of Bill Shortens last two former chiefs of staff.

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