Wednesday Forum: December 5, 2018

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  1. mh

    This longer footage from Fox shows Bill greeting Melania:

    Trumps greet Obamas at President George H.W. Bush’s funeral

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TOLVciVZEAQ

  2. H B Bear

    Nothing to do with receiving SFA in the dollar from GST then?

    The 19 billion in debt isn’t due to the GST. Perth is littered with the Emperor’s billion dollar vanity projects.

  3. Notafan

    What are you talking about, Dot. Women have not been “betrayed”!
    We are going about our business, doing all the things that non-women are doing with equality of opportunity and equality under the law. That battle was fought and won by our grandmothers and great grandmothers.

    Two and half years ago -the decent into srr territory started a few months later

    as for rightness

    I disagree that our grandmothers and great grandmothers did anything of the kind-non of mine did anything other than work hard caring for their families, on the farm and when desperate for cash a little factory work

    if Anne had upper middle suffragettes in the family I say thanks for nothing, I would much rather have had the ‘luxury’ of being a full time mother than being forced to work to the detriment of me and my children’s best interests.

    The right to be a wage slave is grossly overrated and only seems so because bored upper middles (many with servants to look after their children) decided that marriage and motherhood was a second class choice.

    As for equality under the law, I’m not even sure where women were disenfranchised, other than to vote.

    Monty would furiously agree with Anne that these were amazing achievements. btw.

  4. H B Bear

    The Oz is reporting that Comm Bank & Westpac have recently employed both of Bill Shortens last two former chiefs of staff.

    Maaaaaate. The Australian holy Trinity of Big Government, Big Business and Big Union is alive and well.

  5. feelthebern

    The next under belly should be 100% on VicPol.
    That Magda Szubanki can play fatty Nixon.
    Rob Sitch can play Overland.
    I have no idea who would play fatty Ashton.
    Maybe the old fool who played Harold from Neighbours.
    & the guy who played Gollum in the LOTR can play a young Dan Andrews.

  6. Pete of Perth

    Go the whole hog and enforce the same diversity in the Muso’s audience.

  7. Bruce of Newcastle

    Shaking hands with a guy like Bill could have consequences down the track.
    Epstein has been in the news, Slick Willie is pretty close to him.
    Wussia could also backfire spectacularly.
    If something litigious happens you’d not want to’ve been seen palling up with him recently.
    The MSM loves a good smear, and signs are that Bill has become haram lately.

  8. feelthebern

    Top o’ the page to you !

  9. Notafan

    Viva

    Now I am very concerned that one of my children might be a lizard person

    Beware the redhaired!

  10. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    calli
    #2879708, posted on December 6, 2018 at 10:51 am

    This one’s for callie.

    I’m listening to the story about how one of the contenders for “Rosie the Riveter” began work at Ford’s Willow Run aircraft factory, near Detroit.

    When the ladies first began work there, the workshop foremen put up signs “Gentlemen, please watch your language, there are ladies present.”

    The ladies held their own in the language stakes, to the extent that the workshop foremen put up signs “Ladies, please watch your language, there are gentlemen present.”

  11. Elle

    This longer footage from Fox shows Bill greeting Melania:

    Melania, a lady with style and grace; unlike the bitter feminist loser, Hillary. Nice to see Bill being polite, unlike wifey, Hillary, who was sucking on lemons.

  12. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Oz is reporting that Comm Bank & Westpac have recently employed both of Bill Shortens last two former chiefs of staff.

    “Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.” Michael Corleone

    Anna Bligh and the Wombat Whisperer just might fall into such a computation too.

  13. H B Bear

    Sigmund Blot has diagnosed the problem with Lord Waffleworth – mummy issues. That might be why he is married to Edna Everage.

    Paywalled but I suspect there are some LOLs buried in there.

  14. Tom

    I have no idea who would play fatty Ashton.

    Can we exhume Jackie Gleason?

  15. John Constantine

    AHY sells off its australian dunny paper Sorbent business.

    Still heavily geared capital intensive business.

    Australia, our tolerence of losing the ability to make bog roll is Our Strength.

    [Probably canny move, Venezuela shows us that crap wrap isn’t a godless commo proof business, when the supermarkets can’t stock it on their shelves.]

  16. Herodotus

    BBC Scene 1
    The Irish lady who does the OS show went to Grimsby, which used to be the busiest fishing harbour in the UK and possibly the world – and which voted overwhelmingly for Brexit. No surprises there as it’s a shadow of its former self.
    During her chat to various ones, she told one chap who recalled how busy it used to be and that it could be again that there was no going back “because it’s a globalised world now.”

    BBC Scene 2
    The Hard Talk program’s Steven Sackur got stuck into a pro-Brexit politician Owen Paterson. It would all be doom and gloom he said if the UK had to fend for itself in the big bad world. Perhaps there should be a second referendum! That’s always the way when leftists and globalists don’t like the result of a vote.
    Paterson, who has a very fine record as a shadow minister and later minister in the Cameron government, and a background in industry, pointed out that May’s plan (which he had read in full) was unacceptable, and that the EU was just a small group of nations under the many rules of Brussels, while the big wide world of many more nations was there to be traded with under existing WTO rules that most observed.

    The BBC is well and truly in the remain camp and runs its programs accordingly.

  17. Gilas

    notafan
    #2879606, posted on December 6, 2018 at 7:35 am
    Does it work oldozzie?

    Nope!
    It was worth a try though.

  18. OldOzzie

    Global China watchers alarmed by NZ claims

    A series of unusual burglaries, reports of spies looking for listening devices and claims of car tampering have prompted alarmed experts around the world to call on New Zealand’s government to protect a vocal China critic.

    University of Canterbury professor Anne-Marie Brady says she has been victim of attempts to silence her since the publication of her major report criticising China’s alleged influence in New Zealand last year.

    In February, she told an Australian parliamentary committee her office and home had been burgled, noting laptops had been taken but other valuables left untouched.

    New Zealand police in September confirmed there was an ongoing, unusually long and well-resourced probe into the break-ins, with Interpol called in, and the NZ Herald reported spies had been called to search Prof Brady’s office.

    Now, in an open letter, 164 academics, former diplomats and journalists from around the world, including Australia, have called on the New Zealand government to give Brady police protection, saying authorities have been too slow to act.

    “The harassment campaign against Brady risks having a chilling effect on scholarly inquiry, allowing the CCP to interfere in the politics of our societies unfettered by informed scrutiny,” it says.

    “We urge the New Zealand authorities grant Professor Brady the necessary protection to allow her to continue her research, sending a clear signal to fellow researchers that independent inquiry can be protected.”

    The letters comes after dozens of academics and human rights advocates in New Zealand called for the government to treat the claims more seriously.

    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern told reporters last month she would respond if conclusive evidence was obtained.

    “If I received a direct report that said there was an issue there that could be directly attributable to China, or at China’s direction, we would act on that. But I have not received such information,” she said.

    The opposition National Party and Ardern’s Labour have played down suggestions of political interference by China, saying the country’s donation and electoral system are up to scratch and authorities are vigilant.

    A report by the Hoover Institution, a conservative American think tank, recently described New Zealand as particularly vulnerable to China’s influence and criticised a lack of government action when compared with Australia.

    Link

  19. mh

    Watching Channel 7 cricket coverage for the first time.

    Female commentator. Totally unnecessary.

  20. Peter Castieau

    Juvenile economic correspondent to the West Australian Shane Wrong believes that Australia’s economic malaise is all because of DJT.

    https://thewest.com.au/opinion/shane-wright/tariff-man-donal-trump-shakes-up-world-economy-ng-b881040827z

  21. OldOzzie

    Gilas
    #2879738, posted on December 6, 2018 at 11:48 am

    notafan
    #2879606, posted on December 6, 2018 at 7:35 am
    Does it work oldozzie?

    Nope!
    It was worth a try though.

    Gilas,

    when you download the File

    [email protected]
    Here is the .xpi file. Github doesn’t allow uploading .xpi files so i added a .txt extension. Remove that after you download it. To install on firefox, naviagte to the .xpi file, right click, ‘open with’ firefox.

    if you have Firefox Open, close it before you naviagte to the .xpi file, right click, ‘open with’ firefox

    Has been working for me

    OldOzzie

  22. Tom

    How the hell did we ever tolerate the funeral parlour of Channel Nein’s cricket coverage? For a start, we now have competition: Ricky Ponting, Michael Slater and Tim Lane on Channel Stokes versus Shane Warne, Mark Waugh, Michael Vaughan, Harsha Bhogle and Kerry O’Keeffe on the pay TV monopoly. Bloody marvellous!

    (Injuns now 3-21 after Usman Khawaja took a blinder to dismiss Virat Kohli).

  23. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sigmund Blot has diagnosed the problem with Lord Waffleworth – mummy issues.

    Recently the weenies at Newscorpse decided to include the Blot and Blair blogs in the most popular news items lists you see at the bottom of the Oz website.

    Today 3 out of the top 10 between the Hun and the Tele. Sometimes it’s 5 of 10.

    I tink dat illustrates problem for the social engineers at Newscorpse. The readers are unengineerable.

    Murdoch kiddies take note.

  24. H B Bear

    Channel Neins cricket commentary box must have looked something like Graeoogs lounge room. Corpses everywhere. Fox seemed to have picked up the best of the bunch but hell will freeze over before I pay to watch TV.

  25. calli

    They all looked perfectly dignified and decent in that first row at the funeral.

    What do people want – grins and backslaps all round?

    A little surprised that Hillary’s impulse control failed to stop her from reading the OOS, but it’s a minor thing. Sometimes those hymns can be six verses long.

  26. areff

    I have no idea who would play fatty Ashton.

    A turnip?

  27. .

    Old School Conservative
    #2879659, posted on December 6, 2018 at 9:19 am

    When will Lawyer X be named?

    After the ‘ndrangheta “reclaim their honour”.

  28. Top Ender

    Over at Blot the thinking is that Turncoat’s real agenda is to be the first President of Australia under a Shorten government.

    They might be on to something there.

    Thinking Himself will sit around for another 20 years doing nothing is to misunderstand him.

  29. John Constantine

    Not long now until the kiwifruit returns to its rightful name of Chinese gooseberry.

  30. bespoke

    .
    #2879603, posted on December 6, 2018 at 7:30 am
    I like the boy, but what JP says isn’t remarkable. He may be a remarkable man, but his views are pretty much…what was once called common sense.

    Only a fool would look for a messiah in humanity but Its only common sense to us not in the MSM or in education. Milo smashes the lefts stereotypes JP has the credentials that they worship I welcome both as different tactics to push back. But this intellectual dark web sounds more like a geeky club the real ones are the un known who do the research free of any political/social interference.

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Over at Blot the thinking is that Turncoat’s real agenda is to be the first President of Australia under a Shorten government.

    I’ll bet good money that that’s his agenda. “Prime Minister of Australia – doesn’t matter which Party – tick. First President of the Australian Republic – doesn’t matter who puts me there – tick.”

  32. .

    My “betrayed women” comment before (over two years ago) was about Hillary Clinton.

    Annie, our tinfoil hat wearing Q crumb detective, was actually (although only tacitly) defending Hillary Clinton.

  33. .

    Over at Blot the thinking is that Turncoat’s real agenda is to be the first President of Australia under a Shorten government.

    Yes, but you heard it first on the Cat!

  34. Roger

    Not long now until the kiwifruit returns to its rightful name of Chinese gooseberry.

    Chinese in Auckland insist on walking on the right side of the footpath to the consternation of locals.

    A bit of expectorating going on too.

    It’s not migration, it’s colonisation.

  35. Bruce of Newcastle

    Over at Blot the thinking is that Turncoat’s real agenda is to be the first President of Australia under a Shorten government.

    Zero chance.
    ALP does not give coveted positions to their useful idiots.

  36. stackja

    Nine brought TV cricket into real world. ABC interrupted a near century innings with the news. Kerry would have exploded if Nine did that.

  37. .

    Paranoia about the wicked Celestials not following Joh Bjelke Peterson style footpath regs.

    Roll up! Roll up!

    Only a sheep shagger could give two bales about this nonsense.

    Unless we consistently apply the logic regarding the Chinese and accept the reality that Sir Joh was really a Manchurian candidate of the Beehive.

    What does Q say, Annie!?

  38. stackja

    BON – president MT would be a very useful idiot to ALP. Someone else might not be so compliant. Stroking MT ego much would be accomplished.

  39. H B Bear

    Over at Blot the thinking is that Turncoat’s real agenda is to be the first President of Australia under a Shorten government.

    That tells you more about the people that read Blot’s blog than anything.

  40. Roger

    Only a sheep shagger could give two bales about this nonsense.

    Not much fun a on a rainy day in Auckland CBD, dot.

    Migrants should accept and adopt such local customs.

    Thankfully they do drive on the left in NZ…most of the time.

  41. Roger

    That was a blinder by Khawaja.

    Thankfully his brother’s woes don’t appear to have distracted him from the task at hand.

  42. Snoopy

    I disagree with Fatty Ashton. I think just about everyone knows who Lawyer X is.

  43. jupes

    Ha ha 4 – 41!

    India are going down.

  44. Elle

    A turnip?

    Not such a great root vegetable.

  45. Gilas

    OldOzzie
    #2879742, posted on December 6, 2018 at 11:55 am

    Thank you for taking the time to explain it (I had successfully followed the original instructions in the blog you linked to yesterday)

    The problem might be the geriatric Firefox version I’m using (43.0.1), don’t know if I can be bothered updating this over-bloated bloatware at this stage..

    Thanks again.

  46. OldOzzie

    Behind Boeing’s Decision to Omit Details on Safety System in Lion Air Crash From Manual

    After the Lion Air Flight 610 crash, some regulators and pilots are asking why details on the plane’s MCAS anti-stall system weren’t in the Boeing manual

    An automated flight-control system on Boeing Co.’s BA -4.85% 737 MAX aircraft, which investigators suspect played a central role in the fatal Oct. 29 jetliner crash in Indonesia, was largely omitted from the plane’s operations manual and was the subject of debate inside Boeing, government and industry officials say.

    Pilots of Lion Air Flight 610 battled systems on the Boeing 737 MAX for 11 minutes after the plane took off from Jakarta, until it crashed into the Java Sea, killing all 189 people on board. Boeing is devising a software fix and trying to reinstill confidence in the cockpit systems of the 737 MAX, which U.S. airlines have called safe.

    Fatal Flight
    Lion Air Flight 610 pilots battled systems on the Boeing 737 MAX for 11 minutes before the plane crashed into the Java Sea.

    Debate inside Boeing on what the 737 MAX manuals should say about the automated system and how much training would be required before pilots could safely slide behind the controls was more intense than usual, industry officials recall.

    The decision to omit the new control system from manuals has put a Boeing design principle at the center of a probe into a fatal airliner crash for the first time in more than two decades. It has sparked public scrutiny of a typically behind-the-scenes process and threatens to tarnish Boeing’s reputation for safety and its tradition of prioritizing pilot authority over automation.

    Former Boeing and current airline and government officials said there was a strong push to keep 737 MAX training to a minimum—a common goal for the introduction of new models. One former Boeing official recalls a colleague expressing concern about keeping their job if regulators rejected the company’s proposed guidelines. The program was eventually approved.

    Boeing said it didn’t intentionally keep relevant information from aviators and had discussed the new system—known by its acronym, MCAS—with airlines at conferences in recent years. A spokesman disputed the characterization of the debate as unusually heated, saying, “Discussions were consistent with our regular process.”

    “When Boeing developed its training and materials, it followed a process that was absolutely consistent with introducing previous new airplanes” and new models, the spokesman said. The goal, he said, is to ensure that pilots have all the information they need and that maintenance crews understand how to service the aircraft.

    Boeing arrived at the decision in a typical way, with internal discussions and dialogue with airlines and regulators, according to U.S. government and industry officials familiar with the details. From the start Boeing and its customers were keen to keep training to a few hours of self-instruction on computers to ease the burden on airlines, the officials said.

    Engineering, training and other experts inside Boeing had differing views on the precise language to be used in manuals. People familiar with the process said there was a sharp focus on one point: avoiding added simulator training.

    Some regulators and pilots are among those asking why Boeing decided against detailing how the new system worked and why pilots weren’t trained on its specific characteristics. Key aspects of the system differ markedly from systems on older versions of the 737.

    “Airline pilots need to know everything they can know about how the airplane works,” said Gordon Bethune, a former Boeing executive who oversaw earlier 737 models and later was chief executive of Continental Airlines. “The ball was dropped,” he said.

    Preliminary data released by crash investigators points to the MCAS system misfiring during the Lion Air flight, when a signal from a single malfunctioning sensor prompted the system to repeatedly push down the plane’s nose prior to its plunge into the Java Sea.

    “It’s pretty surprising that there isn’t a cross check or redundancy” to prevent such a hazard, said Randy Babbitt, a former Federal Aviation Administration chief.

    The Boeing spokesman said the system “was designed and certified using aerospace industry best practices.”

    Boeing began developing the 737 MAX in 2011, a year after European rival Airbus SE introduced the A320neo single-aisle planes, which require minimal pilot training.

    Regulators eventually approved the Boeing program, and the plane’s launch customer, Southwest Airlines Co. , embraced it. A Southwest spokeswoman said the airline developed its 737 MAX training based on Boeing’s information and “was a recipient of, not a driver of, the training” mandates.

    That plane’s success surprised even Airbus, while Boeing was losing market share.

    No airlines are challenging the basic safety of the 737 MAX, which went into commercial service about a year ago. Since the accident, three of Boeing’s biggest 737 MAX customers— American Airlines Group Inc., Southwest and United Continental Holdings Inc. —have said the plane is safe and their pilots are well-trained to fly it.

    Investigators in the Lion Air crash are also delving into apparent maintenance lapses and pilot errors in what is expected to be a monthslong probe. Meanwhile, Lion Air co-founder Rusdi Kirana said the carrier may cancel orders for more than 200 Boeing planes, as relations with the plane maker sour. He has taken issue with a Boeing statement that he said cast aspersions on the airline, and claimed in an interview, “Boeing didn’t make a proper manual.” Boeing said Lion Air is “a valued customer.”

    From the 737 MAX’s inception, Boeing teams sought to make the plane maneuver like its predecessor, the 737 NG, and thereby preclude the need for extra flight-simulator sessions. It proved tricky, however, to reduce handling differences between the two models.

    Boeing engineers determined the MAX’s design required additional stall protections in extreme maneuvers, partly to gain essential FAA certification, according people familiar with the matter. So Boeing developed MCAS, which automatically and repeatedly pushes down the nose of the plane under certain manual flying conditions.

    if cockpit computers determine it is pointing too high and the wings are at risk of losing lift needed to fly.

    Pilots said they weren’t explicitly informed until the Lion Air crash that the system could give such strong and persistent commands and ultimately push the nose down as far as possible. By contrast, the anti-stall system on the earlier 737 NG could be countered relatively easily, by pulling back the control yoke.

    It is up to manufacturers and regulators to determine which information to include in manuals and how to train pilots. People familiar with the Boeing manual said MCAS was mentioned, but only in the glossary spelling out the acronym (for Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System). Details of the new system were included in early documents related to the manual, before Boeing decided they would be redundant, some of these people said. The FAA agreed and approved the final manual.

    A Boeing spokesman said one section still “expressly advises flight crews to expect automatic nose-down” commands as the plane approaches stall speed. Boeing also has stressed that its manuals include the procedure for turning off stall-protection systems, which pilots are trained to follow whether in the MAX or older planes.

    Boeing concluded pilots were unlikely to ever encounter situations where the new anti-stall system kicked in, according to a Southwest memo reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. “They would never see the system in action,” a person familiar with Boeing’s development of the system said.

    Boeing in recent weeks has privately said it was a judgment call that details about the new system weren’t necessary in the manuals, according to people familiar with the company’s discussions with aviators and customers. Boeing has been meeting with airlines and pilot unions as it works on the software fix expected in coming weeks.

    Boeing’s position has some support. A top executive at a 737 MAX customer agreed pilots didn’t need to know the system’s details. “They’re not engineers and their job is to fly the aircraft,” this executive said.

    A United Airlines union official said in a note to pilots that despite the omission from the Boeing manual, aviators have been instructed to stop nose-down commands in older and newer 737s the same way: turn off the system. “Regardless of the source or cause,” the note said, “you will do exactly as you have been trained.”

    The Lion Air aircraft that crashed had experienced various flight-control malfunctions on all of its four previous flights. The preliminary crash report makes clear technicians failed to solve the problem, because the same malfunctions reoccurred just before the crash.

    In the ill-fated flight, according to the preliminary report, the plane’s flight-control alerts malfunctioned again, providing erroneous stall-warnings from the instant the aircraft lifted off the runway. Cockpit instruments displayed a barrage of fault warnings, including unreliable airspeed and altitude, according to the report. The crew battled more than two dozen repeated automated nose-down commands by manually commanding nose-up maneuvers, until they lost control some 11 minutes after takeoff.

    The FAA confirmed it is reviewing its decision to accept Boeing’s initial risk analyses of the automated system and other approved systems on the new plane. The FAA and Boeing also are developing a test of the entire MCAS system, which wasn’t previously required.

    Southwest’s pilot union president, Jon Weaks, said he was encouraged by Boeing’s commitment to pilot feedback, telling members in a note that he was assured “there will be no more surprises.”

  47. Tom

    Injuns used to low and slow. No idea how to play fast and bouncey from blokes 6’4″+ tall. All four wickets gifted to the Strayans — balls that should have been left.

  48. Tom

    Injuns used to low and slow. No idea how to play fast and bouncey from blokes 6’4″+ tall. All four wickets gifted to the Strayans — deliveries that should have been left.

  49. W Hogg

    Annie, our tinfoil hat wearing Q crumb detective, was actually (although only tacitly) defending Hillary Clinton.

    Considering you led the Cats’ Unhinged Never Trumper movement, and advocated that conservatives and libertarians abstain (therefore putting Illary one vote closer to the WH), is that really a criticism you want to level at anyone else?

  50. Mother Lode

    I think mandated diversity outcomes in music to be an inspired idea.

    The same kind of thinking that has made Australia the cinematic powerhouse it is today,

  51. OldOzzie

    Gilas
    #2879769, posted on December 6, 2018 at 12:37 pm

    OldOzzie
    #2879742, posted on December 6, 2018 at 11:55 am

    Thank you for taking the time to explain it (I had successfully followed the original instructions in the blog you linked to yesterday)

    The problem might be the geriatric Firefox version I’m using (43.0.1), don’t know if I can be bothered updating this over-bloated bloatware at this stage..

    Thanks again.

    Gilas,

    I (on my MEL Daughter’s iMac) have just updated to latest version of Firefox – 59.0.3 (64-bit)

    and just did a Firefox restart to update and the anti-paywall add on referenced above still works on the OZ as well as WSJ

    worth upgrading then closing firefox and right clicking on .xpi file (renamed without .txt) and open with right click firefox – makes life enjoyable to beat the system

  52. Infidel Tiger

    The Oz is reporting that Comm Bank & Westpac have recently employed both of Bill Shortens last two former chiefs of staff.

    Corporatism is the greatest cancer eating the western world.

    Leftism we can deal with, but corporatism will and is destroying our world.

  53. John Constantine

    ABC reports why libs were tossed in victoria

    Upper House MP Mary Wooldridge — one of just seven female parliamentarians in the party — said it must stop a lurch to the right of politics.

    “We will win government when we reflect the majority of Victorians’ views and … we must have a range of moderate perspectives,” Ms Wooldridge said.

  54. Bruce of Newcastle

    How armadillo sees himself.

    Can we call him Rudolph?

  55. John Constantine

    Mr Pesutto did not rule out a comeback to politics when asked if it was possible there may be a resignation in the Upper House, which could allow him to return without a by-election.

    Conceding defeat to Labor’s John Kennedy yesterday, Mr Pesutto also called on the party to recruit more women and culturally diverse candidates and to do more to address climate change.

    He cited his 17-year-old daughter, who went to Melbourne’s climate change protest on Friday, as an example of the kind of voter the party should be attracting.

  56. John Constantine

    Ms McLeish is one of just three Liberal women elected to the Parliament’s Lower House.
    Cindy McLeish speaks into a reporter’s microphone.
    Photo: Eildon Liberal MP Cindy McLeish forms part of the party’s new leadership team. (AAP: David Crosling)

    She worked as a teacher and consultant before becoming the MP for Seymour in 2010 and Eildon in 2014, following the last state redistribution.

    Ms Wooldridge urged greater efforts to recruit more women to the party and did not rule out supporting quotas.

    “I think we need to reassess on a whole lot of policy fronts,” she said.

    “This sort of crisis presents an opportunity for change and a big shift back to the centre.”

  57. P

    Bishop has been given the nod as the next GG.

    Over at Blot the thinking is that Turncoat’s real agenda is to be the first President of Australia under a Shorten government.

    As I understand it, when Australia becomes a Republic and the Queen and Governor General are replaced by the President, JB would be redundant.

  58. John Constantine

    It seems the destruction of the viclibs means wymynsys can occupy the ruins for Stalin.

    Children going to rallies to demonstrate the indoctrination progressed by teachers unions are Our Strength.

  59. The Barking Toad

    Weatherdill is retiring from politics….getting out before punters are reminded when the blackouts start this summer. (extracts from the Oz)
    Former South Australian Labor premier Jay Weatherill will retire from state politics and outline his exit plans during today’s final state parliamentary sitting day of the year.

    He’s proud of his energy policies with renewables – hahahha

    Mr Weatherill also said that following the devastating statewide blackout in September, 2016, he was proud of how his government “held the line on renewable energy”.

    “Today there is an acknowledgement that we are a world leader in a transition to renewable energy,” he said.

    Dickhead.

  60. Myrddin Seren

    Mr Pesutto did not rule out a comeback to politics ….He cited his 17-year-old daughter, who went to Melbourne’s climate change protest on Friday, as an example of the kind of voter the party should be attracting.

    Dude – if you want the policy direction of the SFLs set by thoroughly indoctrinated teenage schoolkids, there is a real good chance that pale, stale, middle-aged male You is just about the last person who will win pre-selection.

  61. struth

    However much he disappointed as PM I think it unfair and incorrect to call TA ‘a sop’.

    I won’t ask you to back that opinion up.

    Tony Abbott talks shit and does the reverse of all the stuff he says in speeches that sound awesome, while out of office, once in.

    Oh he stopped the boats!
    No he didn’t.
    He paused the boats.
    Due to not throwing Turdball out on his arse, because he is a sop, the Liberal party have now lost control of Parliament and our good old AMA communist lesbian doctor and Labor are today, about to start it all up again, by taking the decision making out of the democratically elected minister, to activist doctors!!
    This is directly regarding who gets to come in.
    So the boats are about to start, and those that cough once will be straight on a helicopter medivac-ed to Australia.
    He may have got rid of a carbon tax but by not getting rid of turdbull we got the highest electricity prices in the world, as the state governments went ballistic blowing up power stations.

    He’s a sop of the first order in my opinion.

  62. Mother Lode

    Looking at the pictures of Bush funeral, I noticed that Obama seems to have this bizarre way of sitting with his chin high up in the air.

    Put me off for a moment, until I realised that after years of looking down on everyone and everything, the orbits of his eyes have shifted so to even see anything immediately in front of him he must incline his head a good 30 degrees.

    Either that or he got permanent damage to his sockets when he displeased that hulking beast he married in some minor particular or other.

  63. John Constantine

    After the regions of australia have been desertified by globalisation and centralisation of opportunity within crony Maaaaaates networks in the cities, we now get the push for:

    Regionalisation of Immigration.

    “However Migration Institute of Australia national president John Hourigan criticised the Government’s handling of existing regional schemes, and said it needed someone with the expertise, “to turn the rhetoric into substance and make regionalisation of the immigration program happen”.

    “If the Government had a real commitment to regionalising the immigration program, it would commit sufficient resources to ensuing that existing applications were finalised within short timeframes,” he said.

    An ABC investigation last month found regional migration was at its lowest level since 2008-09, even as the Government talked up a renewed regional push.

    Labor immigration spokesman Shayne Neumann said the Liberal Party was “all talk and no substance” on migration policy.

    “Under the Liberals, processing times for regional visas — such as the Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme — have ballooned out of control and it can take over two years to have these visas processed,” he said.

    “This prevents migrants from resettling in regional areas, even when they want to.”

    But Mr Tudge was adamant “unprecedented” growth in Australia’s biggest urban areas was prompting a policy refresh.

    “As part of the Coalition’s population plan, visa incentives will be used to encourage more migration to regional and low-growth areas that want to grow,” his spokesperson said.

    A five-year requirement for migrants to remain in regions has been discussed.”

    Importing masses of the worlds poorest people to be dumped out in desertified areas, isolated from the crony networks that ration out opportunities in Australia.

    How could it possibly go wrong?.

  64. jupes

    Children going to rallies to demonstrate the indoctrination progressed by teachers unions are Our Strength.

    Liberty quote.

  65. Zyconoclast

    ROME (Reuters) – The Italian government passed a law that clamps down on asylum rights and boosts funds for police, handing Interior Minister and right-wing League party leader Matteo Salvini his first major legislative win.

    The lower house of parliament voted 396 to 99 late on Wednesday to pass the law championed by Salvini, who took office in June in a coalition with the anti-establishment 5-Star Movement.

    The new law eliminates humanitarian grounds for granting protection to refugees — asylum that is not tied to political persecution or war. It also funnels millions of euros to law enforcement and anti-mafia administrators.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-italy-politics-immigration-security/italys-salvini-gets-win-with-new-asylum-and-security-rules-idUSKCN1NY1JN

  66. Notafan

    Interesting Dot

    Took me here, I wonder how often this is cited as an example of man made climate change?

    The lake is man made, this time round of course, and just doing it’s thing

    The Salton Sea

  67. .

    The Oz is reporting that Comm Bank & Westpac have recently employed both of Bill Shortens last two former chiefs of staff.

    Short.

  68. H B Bear

    He cited his 17-year-old daughter, who went to Melbourne’s climate change protest on Friday, as an example of the kind of voter the party should be attracting.

    Pesutto should stand aside and give his seat to his kiddie, Ponygirl style – oops he doesn’t have one. Anyway here’s a Helen Lovejoy Award to ease the loss.

  69. Zyconoclast

    Well worth the read

    We Must Face Persistent Racial Gaps in Academic Performance

    In covering the most highly publicized “affirmative action” lawsuit in decades – against Harvard University — the news media are continuing their pattern of averting their eyes from stubborn facts that cut against their ideological preferences.

    In recent trial testimony, Harvard and other selective schools claim that the only way they can maintain adequate racial diversity is to use large racial preferences to admit a great many more black (and brown) students than would otherwise get in based on their academic performance.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/12/04/we_must_face_persistent_racial_gaps_in_academic_performance_138818.html

  70. .

    W Hogg
    #2879775, posted on December 6, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    Annie, our tinfoil hat wearing Q crumb detective, was actually (although only tacitly) defending Hillary Clinton.

    Considering you led the Cats’ Unhinged Never Trumper movement, and advocated that conservatives and libertarians abstain (therefore putting Illary one vote closer to the WH), is that really a criticism you want to level at anyone else?

    She defended Hillary.

    Trump ain’t perfect*, I still like Cruz and Rand Paul more.

    Never Trumper? I think you’re a bit florid in your description here. You may even be thinking of our dear friend Ant!

    Don’t tell me you’re triggered because you actually believe this Q-tard shit?

    *He’s doing very well, bravo.

  71. Eyrie

    Anyone else watch the Falcon 9 booster land in the water this morning after a failed grid fin hydraulic pump?
    Thing was spinning rapidly and recovered and they soft landed it just offshore. One big rocket floating n the Atlantic while they figure out how to retrieve it. AWESOME!

  72. .

    LOL

    Migrants don’t want to move to the regions because the Greens and ALP types like short colon red man and LNP types like Greg “Democratic Socialist Conservative” Hunt who are basically their golems, have destroyed primary industries.

    They don’t want to move where there are no jobs.

    After WWII, Italian migrants colonised and developed the inner dry regions of NSW.

    Nothing like this could ever happen again, under our current laws.

  73. C.L.

    ABC just can’t stop itself:
    George HW Bush’s funeral had some awkward moments.
    Despite posting the video, they neglected to mention the moment Joe Biden stood up expecting to be personally greeted by Bush Jr – only for Dubya to move on.
    Only the big dogs get a personal handshake, Joe.
    Watch till the end.

  74. Infidel Tiger

    Mr Pesutto did not rule out a comeback to politics ….He cited his 17-year-old daughter, who went to Melbourne’s climate change protest on Friday, as an example of the kind of voter the party should be attracting.

    So he’s a shit father too.

  75. struth

    They don’t want to move where there are no jobs.

    It’s not about work dot, it’s about welfare.

    They just don’t want to move to the country because they will feel isolated and scared.
    There are real Aussies out there, don’t you know.
    They want to be lost in the masses and insulated by urban existence.

    And let’s face it, the types we are letting in love shopping.

  76. Mother Lode

    As I understand it, when Australia becomes a Republic and the Queen and Governor General are replaced by the President, JB would be redundant.

    Bishop’s plan is not to be made GG, which has some ceremonial obligations.

    She wants to be made Australia’s Special Ambassador to Cocktail Parties.

  77. W Hogg

    He cited his 17-year-old daughter, who went to Melbourne’s climate change protest on Friday, as an example of the kind of voter the party should be attracting.

    Yes. The Liberal Party should be targeting its policy for teenage Viromental activists. Who knows – 1 in 100 might actually switch from GRN to LIB because they have an elderly relative in the party.

    FMD.

  78. C.L.

    New Zealand fears invasion by angry, hungry islanders in canoes or something:

    The Australian (AAP copy): NZ prepares for war on climate change.

    Facing a potential future of mass climate migration, water and food shortages and violent conflict across the Pacific, New Zealand’s armed forces have declared climate change “one of the most significant security threats of our time”.

    As humanitarian call-outs for New Zealand’s Defence Force skyrocket, Defence Minister Ron Mark has this year increasingly tied environmental concerns to security in what he calls a “war on climate change”.

  79. struth

    Has there been any push back or outrage by the grown ups of this country regarding the rampant child abuse and indoctrination of children by our so called teachers?
    So absolutely and utterly flaunted in our faces.
    Was there at least one teacher in the whole of Australia that got angry with the parents (they’re the ones to blame of course) because their children wagged school to attend political protest rallies?
    Did they demand children do this thing in their own time and not school time as an education is more important?

    Ho f..king ho…………………………..

  80. Calli:

    The new F35s fly into Williamtown on Monday and apparently they will do a Bay flyover. I can hardly wait for the roar.

    Wait.
    They are going to make noise?
    Oh, that’s not on.
    The kiddies will become terrified.
    The noise will scar them for life!

  81. Cactus

    Calli:

    The new F35s fly into Williamtown on Monday and apparently they will do a Bay flyover. I can hardly wait for the roar.

    Wait.
    They are going to make noise?
    Oh, that’s not on.
    The kiddies will become terrified.
    The noise will scar them for life!

    Wait – stealth jets are going to make noise?

  82. min

    Blot said he was not a psychoanalyst and neither am I by training that I explained to him . However I suggested Malcolm may be helped by reading Marcus Aurelius as narcisissists do not do well in therapy as they know more and are smarter than the therapist( sarc) Then I wondered who had the worst son out of Commodus and Alex.

  83. min

    Well Commodus became Emperor .

  84. JC

    Old dudes like this are the best. My mother was like that, but obviously not as wealthy unfortunately. 🙂

    At 100 years old, the world’s oldest billionaire still goes to the office every day

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/05/worlds-oldest-billionaire-yun-chung-chang-goes-to-work-every-day.html

  85. Mater

    Facing a potential future of mass climate migration, water and food shortages and violent conflict across the Pacific, New Zealand’s armed forces have declared climate change “one of the most significant security threats of our time”.

    Would it be less of a threat if the mass migration was caused by altruism?
    Asking for an Ally.

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They don’t want to move where there are no jobs.

    It’s not about work dot, it’s about welfare.

    Most of the jobs are unskilled, manual labor and they regard that as “demeaning.”

  87. JC

    one of the most significant security threats of our time”.

    The hallucinations are funny as.

    Climate justice !

  88. Old Ozzie:

    [email protected]

    So what is it?
    What does it do?
    Turn all my files into pancake recipes?
    Actually get my Thermomix to make pancakes?
    Install an industrial pancake slicer into my light sockets?
    Repaint the T34/85 I’m restoring in my letterbox to poofta red?
    What?

  89. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Scott Morrison plays the best political game of allDennis Shanahan

    2 hours ago December 6, 2018
    58 Comments

    Scott Morrison has grabbed an opportunity to play to the Coalition’s strength on border protection, target Bill Shorten as “risky” on national security and underline that a Labor government’s plans won’t be blocked in the Senate.

    The Prime Minister has also been able to make declarations and take stands on border protection and immigration that Malcolm Turnbull could never have adopted.

    He’s faced with having amendments to offshore processing of asylum seekers forced upon the minority government in the Senate and House of Representatives where Labor, the Greens and independents can combine.

    While accusing the Opposition Leader of playing political games, Morrison played the best political game of all and claimed all he was doing was protecting successful policy in stopping the boats.

    Border protection and national security remain a Coalition strength and a source of friction and tension for the Opposition leader under pressure from the Greens campaigning to end offshore processing and the left of his own party, while needing to appeal to voters in regional and suburban areas who support tough border protection.

    It’s Shorten’s nightmare of trying to appeal simultaneously to inner-city Melbourne and regional Queensland and Morrison didn’t miss the opportunity.

    Morrison said the amendments being proposed to shift people from Nauru and Manus on the say-so of a doctor was the end of offshore processing.

    As the Immigration Minister charged with meeting Tony Abbott’s 2013 promise to “stop the boats” Morrison is on firm ground when he says he knows any change in legislation would be misrepresented by people smugglers and they would be “selling tickets again”.

    Accusing Shorten of not having “the mettle” to hold firm on border protection and personally appealing for “Bill don’t do it” Morrison keep true to his promise to personalise the election campaign and promote his own position by saying “I will fight them on this,” and “I will never move”.

    From the Oz.

  90. thefrollickingmole

    Zyconoclast

    The shortened version of that excellent article you posted is “Culture matters”.

    If your family group, regardless of race thinks twerking, drugging & being “babydaddies” not fathers is the norm then you arent going to fix bugger all by granting academic preferences.

    Every “race” has is pathological 10%, unfortunately around 1980 the music/fashion and culture industries decided pimps, druggies and gang bangers were the authentic voice of the street and made that the symbol of success for the black & a lot of already damaged other races.

    And the pathology was largely promoted, spread and made acceptable by rich white people in the media & culture industries.

  91. OldOzzie

    Winston Smith
    #2879818, posted on December 6, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    Old Ozzie:

    [email protected]

    So what is it?
    What does it do?

    Winston Smith

    the clue is in the first link

    jrwhite commented 13 days ago

    click on that link and scroll down till you come to

    jrwhite commented 13 days ago

    click on

    [email protected]

    Here is the .xpi file. Github doesn’t allow uploading .xpi files so i added a .txt extension. Remove that after you download it. To install on firefox, naviagte to the .xpi file, right click, ‘open with’ firefox.

    on imac when you click on the second one above on the first site it says “you have chosen to open [email protected]

    Select option save file and hit OK – then goes into downloaded files

    Go to that file in downloaded files and chane the name dropping off .txt at the right hand side leaving it as .xpi file

    as jrwhite says

    Here is the .xpi file. Github doesn’t allow uploading .xpi files so i added a .txt extension. Remove that after you download it. To install on firefox, naviagte to the .xpi file, right click, ‘open with’ firefox.

    I found you needed to have Firefox closed when you navigate to the .xpi file and right click, open with firefox

    works perfectly

  92. OldOzzie

    Winston Smith
    #2879818, posted on December 6, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    Old Ozzie:

    [email protected]

    So what is it?
    What does it do?

    Winston Smith

    the clue is in the first link

    jrwhite commented 13 days ago

    click on that link and scroll down till you come to

    jrwhite commented 13 days ago

    click on

    [email protected]

    Here is the .xpi file. Github doesn’t allow uploading .xpi files so i added a .txt extension. Remove that after you download it. To install on firefox, naviagte to the .xpi file, right click, ‘open with’ firefox.

    on imac when you click on the second one above on the first site it says “you have chosen to open the file” you just clicked on

    Select option save file and hit OK – then goes into downloaded files

    Go to that file in downloaded files and chane the name dropping off .txt at the right hand side leaving it as .xpi file

    as jrwhite says

    Here is the .xpi file. Github doesn’t allow uploading .xpi files so i added a .txt extension. Remove that after you download it. To install on firefox, naviagte to the .xpi file, right click, ‘open with’ firefox.

    I found you needed to have Firefox closed when you navigate to the .xpi file and right click, open with firefox

    works perfectly

  93. Anne

    My “betrayed women” comment before (over two years ago) was about Hillary Clinton.

    Annie, our tinfoil hat wearing Q crumb detective, was actually (although only tacitly) defending Hillary Clinton.

    You’re a liar and a sociopath, Dot.

    I never defended Hillary and I was the FIRST to support Trump.

  94. Notafan

    I never defended Hillary and I was the FIRST to support Trump.

    You gonna make srr very very cross

  95. Bruce of Newcastle

    The kiddies will become terrified.
    The noise will scar them for life!

    Not Ncl area kiddies, different breed.

    Just back from lunchtime treadly ride along the shared-path.
    Today is Thursday, the day set aside for a ritual known as Sport.
    First obstacle was a gaggle of Year 10ish girls, with teacher at back in the drover position.
    I dodge to the left.
    ‘Squeal!’ says one.
    ‘Hello’, says another.
    I say ‘hello’ back, and nod.
    ‘Whoa, he’s nice’ she says to the gaggle.
    I flee.

    Then on the return route a second flock, mixed wethers and rams.
    As I pass one of the latter howls ‘AAACKAA DACKAA!’
    Gives me warm feeling.
    The next generation of bogans is progressing well.

  96. Mark A

    OldOzzie
    #2879826, posted on December 6, 2018 at 2:07 pm
    open with firefox

    works perfectly

    The DT is not included.

  97. OldOzzie

    Winston Smith
    #2879818, posted on December 6, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    Old Ozzie:

    [email protected]

    So what is it?
    What does it do?

    Winston Smith

    read the comments as you scroll down the first link and it explains all

  98. Dr Faustus

    Over at Blot the thinking is that Turncoat’s real agenda is to be the first President of Australia under a Shorten government.

    The occasion will demand a Labor grandee be the first president.
    Sally McManus, or Tony Maher – someone who defines modern Australia…

  99. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, that should’ve been ‘ewes and rams’.
    Sorry kids.

  100. OldOzzie

    Mark A
    #2879831, posted on December 6, 2018 at 2:15 pm

    OldOzzie
    #2879826, posted on December 6, 2018 at 2:07 pm
    open with firefox

    works perfectly

    The DT is not included.

    Strange I get DT OZ no problems as welll as HS and AFR not T UK

  101. Howard Hill

    struth
    #2879802, posted on December 6, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    And let’s face it, the types we are letting in love shoplifting.

    Stuth, you’re slipping on your delivery. I fixed it for ya!

  102. Mark A

    OldOzzie
    #2879836, posted on December 6, 2018 at 2:22 pm

    The DT is not included.

    Strange I get DT OZ no problems as welll as HS and AFR not T UK

    Maybe you are using a later or earlier version?
    I had mine for ages and never had DT included.

  103. Anne

    An early Q post included the statement:

    Many in our Government worship Satan.

    Christmas tree, nativity scene and Menorah have company at the Illinois State Capitol.

    The Satanic Temple of Chicago has put a sculpture in the rotunda called “Knowledge is the Greatest Gift.”

    The structure stands about 4 and a half feet tall and depicts the forearm of a young woman extended, with a serpent wrapped around, while her hand holds an apple.

    A spokesperson for Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White says the Satanic group has the right, just like any other religious organization, to put up a display at the Capitol.

    https://www.tristatehomepage.com/news/local-news/satanic-temple-sets-up-statue-inside-the-illinois-state-capitol/1639618837?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Eyewitness_News_WEHT_WTVW

  104. Old School Conservative

    Grimsby, which used to be the busiest fishing harbour in the UK…

    Thanks for the memories Herodotus.
    Dad went to sea in those fishing boats after leaving school and told many a hair-raising story.

  105. OldOzzie

    Mark A
    #2879838, posted on December 6, 2018 at 2:24 pm

    OldOzzie
    #2879836, posted on December 6, 2018 at 2:22 pm

    The DT is not included.

    Strange I get DT OZ no problems as welll as HS and AFR not T UK

    Maybe you are using a later or earlier version?
    I had mine for ages and never had DT included.

    As I said I loaded down update referenced when I found could not access on firefox mel – and have had no problems – will check out home firefox over weekend

    As i said previously Firefox 59.0.3 (64-bit) here although there is a later version, but I don’t want to do updates on my daughters iMac – will check version Firefox back home

    Version 59.0.3, first offered to Release channel users on April 30, 2018

    they are up to

    Version 63.0.3, first offered to Release channel users on November 15, 2018

    but am happy with current version running here

    I have auto video play and audio play turned off using

    about:config (then hit return ) to do this

  106. C.L.

    Police chief wets his pants, demands law-abiding citizens be silenced:

    Billboard promoting gun as Christmas gift draws fire from Police Commissioner Ian Stewart.

    A handgun for Christmas? That is what one store is promoting along a busy Brisbane road in the lead up to the festive season.

    A new billboard on Loganlea Road advertising a local gun store shows a pistol in Christmas wrapping with the heading: “What’s under your tree this year?”

    Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart said the ad was sending the wrong message to the community and should be removed.

    “I would like to see the billboard taken down,” he told ABC Radio Brisbane’s Craig Zonca and Rebecca Levingston.

    “I don’t think it’s necessary. People who use firearms for their sport or work know where to go to purchase guns and I don’t think we need that type of advertising.
    ———-
    [People know where to buy cars and Corn Flakes too, dickhead – ed.].
    ———-
    “The message that sends to me and to most people in the community would be quite abhorrent and against everything that’s really good about Australia.”

    What a totalitarian asshole.
    ———-
    Flashback, 2015: Commissioner Ian Stewart attends Masjid Taqwa Mosque Open Day

  107. Robber Baron

    My mates in Vic Lib rate Pessuto highly. This guy failed to mail out to the whole electorate prepoll forms and a HTV card. Had he done so he would have won.

    The problem with the party is no so much that wet cucks like Pessuto are their preferred representatives, but that the party membership keeps preselecting such types.

  108. jupes

    As humanitarian call-outs for New Zealand’s Defence Force skyrocket, Defence Minister Ron Mark has this year increasingly tied environmental concerns to security in what he calls a “war on climate change”.

    This loon is a minister in a national government.

    A few decades ago anyone that crazy would have been committed to a loony bin.

  109. min

    Shorten is a Servant with more than 2 masters and not the smarts of Goldoni’s protagonist. However Morrison has to be careful as well and work out how many masters he wants to keep happy . This is what he is doing by not getting out of Paris Agreement and moreover, the participants in Poland are sitting there listening in awe to a 15 yr old who knows nothing of science. Incroyable as the French say .

  110. jupes

    Accusing Shorten of not having “the mettle” to hold firm on border protection and personally appealing for “Bill don’t do it” Morrison keep true to his promise to personalise the election campaign and promote his own position by saying “I will fight them on this,” and “I will never move”.

    Except he already has moved. Where are all the Nauru kiddies and their families right now SloMo?

    As usual the SFL have the same policy as Labor. Equally stupid but just not quite as bad.

  111. Eyrie

    “New Zealand’s Defence Force”
    They still have one? The only tac fighters are owned by the Warbirds over Wanaka folks and they are 75 years old.

  112. Boambee John

    Mother Lode at 1307

    Obama seems to have this bizarre way of sitting with his chin high up in the air.

    Same as Mussolini did, fellow fascists?

  113. H B Bear

    Scott Morrison has grabbed an opportunity to play to the Coalition’s strength on border protection, target Bill Shorten as “risky” on national security and underline that a Labor government’s plans won’t be blocked in the Senate.

    Perhaps this time around the Lieborals will run a decent scare campaign on boats (with good reason) instead of relying on the adoring masses to vote for the Turnbull Coalition Team (dec’d). SloMo might even campaign past 1pm instead of retiring to the club for luncheon.

  114. Snoopy

    It seems Labor, The Greens and the ‘independents’ have embraced rule by doctors.

    Two doctors can lawfully kill a nine month old fetus. A single doctor can override offshore processing.

    What other decisions should be our doctors be able to make for the betterment of society?

  115. Boambee John

    Trying to satisfy the spaminator

    Mother Lode at 1307

    Obama seems to have this bizarre way of sitting with his chin high up in the air.

    Same pose as the bloke who ran Italy up until late in WW II often used

  116. Snoopy

    If the NDF is fighting the war against climate change everyone else can relax. Climate change is finished.

  117. Anne

    Thank you Scott Morrison. 👍

    Tiffany Fitzhenry:

    The list of countries who will not sign the UN migration pact keeps growing:

    Poland
    Hungary
    Israel
    Czech Republic
    Austria
    Bulgaria
    Italy
    Lithuania
    Australia

    In other words, the one world government has been called off, and elite globalism has been cancelled.
    Sorry bitches.

  118. H B Bear

    What other decisions should be our doctors be able to make for the betterment of society?

    Let’s hope they never get to set the Medicare schedule. Taxpayers have paid for enough Portsea and Margaret River holiday houses already.

  119. Top Ender

    If ever there was a bitter man desperately in need of a hobby, it is Malcolm Turnbull
    THE MOCKER

    It has been more than three months since former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull resigned from parliament, supposedly on the basis he was retiring from politics. Yet hardly a day goes by without him dominating the news for the wrong reasons, at least as far as the government is concerned. This week was no exception.

    “At the risk of being criticised for speaking about politics, which apparently former prime ministers aren’t allowed to do, according to some of the media — I strongly encourage my colleagues to work together to revive the national energy guarantee,” declared Turnbull in a speech at the Smart Energy Summit in Sydney on Tuesday. “It was a vital piece of economic policy and it had strong support, none stronger than that of the current Prime Minister and the current Treasurer.” Ouch.

    This was the same former prime minister who appeared on ABC’s Q&A last month and announced “I’m not going to be, you know, running a commentary on my successor … I’m obviously not in the parliament seeking to undermine him or overthrow him like Kevin [Rudd] and Tony Abbott have done… I’m out of partisan politics … My days as an active political participant have come to an end.”

    On top of this The Australian reported this week Turnbull has had several conversations with Opposition Leader Bill Shorten since he was ousted, and that NEG was reportedly raised, which Labor is in favour of reviving. Presumably that is his idea of political retirement and not undermining his successor. We can add that to what is becoming a long list. Just to name a few: Turnbull’s demanding that Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton should be referred to the High Court to determine his eligibility to sit in parliament; lobbying NSW Liberals to defy Morrison’s request that the state executive re-endorse embattled MP Craig Kelly; publicly calling for Morrison to go to election in March next year despite the government’s preference for May; and all but putting the kybosh on Morrison’s proposal to move the Australian embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, saying “There is no question, were that move to occur, it would be met with a very negative reaction in Indonesia. This is after all the largest Muslim-majority country in the world.”

    Little over 12 months ago a hapless Turnbull, feeling the strain of the High Court’s ruling that then Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce and then Nationals Deputy Leader Fiona Nash were ineligible to sit in parliament, denied that his government was in chaos. “I have never had more fun in my life,” he said in a pitiful attempt to appear buoyant. Yet today he could make that declaration hand on heart. Turnbull’s angry assertion that his removal was “madness” has become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    You get the feeling in the last few months we’ve been subjected to endless episodes of the Australian version of the American sitcom Malcolm in the Middle. For those unacquainted with that show, it was about a young boy in a large but dysfunctional family. “His intelligence, as well as feelings of not fitting in, and a large ego fuelled by a cruel streak of snarkiness cause numerous problems for him over the course of the series,” reads its Wiki entry. Talk about uncanny. In hindsight the analogy is unwarranted. The young Malcolm played by Frankie Muniz was quite likeable as opposed to coldly narcissistic.

    Which brings me to the older Malcolm. If ever there was a bitter man desperately in need of a hobby, it is him. Come to think of it, given Turnbull’s sardonic (and ironic) reference to not wanting to be a “miserable ghost” like Abbott and Rudd, and seeing it is December, what could be more fitting than him starring in his own production of Charles Dickens’s A Christmas Carol?

    As you recall the central character of that tale was Ebenezer Scrooge, an old man who has made a fortune as a banker but is a miser. On one hand that is at odds with Turnbull the philanthropist, but in terms of lack of empathy and indifference to how others are affected by his actions, the likeness is remarkable.

    You may wonder who should play Scrooge’s long-suffering and impoverished but loyal employee Bob Cratchit, an uncomplaining man who patiently bares the cruel jibes of his master. Yoo-hoo, Scott Morrison, have you got a moment? Just as Scrooge resentfully permits Cratchit to have Christmas Day off, could Turnbull reluctantly decide to spare the Morrison from criticism for at least one day of the year?

    “I’ll retire to Bedlam,” mutters Turnbull with disgust as he grants Morrison’s request, “rather than suffer a merry Christmas.”

    That Christmas Eve, as a cranky Turnbull brooded alone at the fireplace, he heard a mournful sound. To his disbelief a phantom appeared before him. “What do you want with me”, he asked in terror. “Who are you?”

    “Ask me who I was,” replied the ghost.

    “Who were you then?”

    “In life I was your partner, Kerry Packer,” said the ghost. “I am here tonight to warn you that you have yet a chance,” he adds, hinting at the prospect of redemption but filling Turnbull with fear as he tells him he will be visited by three spirits.

    That night the Ghost of Christmas Past appears in the form of Alistair Mackerras, a former headmaster of Sydney Grammar School who knew the young Turnbull when the latter was a boarder. “When he bossed people around he did it in an abrasive way people didn’t like,” says Mackerras to an invisible audience, as Turnbull looks away in shame. “He makes it clear that he thinks people are perfect fools and haven’t got a brain in their head – that’s not how to make friends and influence people.”

    As Mackerras fades away, another spirit appears. “I am the Ghost of Christmas Present,” it says. To Turnbull’s surprise and in the words of Dickens, “Its dark brown curls were long and free; free as its genial face, its sparkling eye, its open hand, its cheery voice, its unconstrained demeanour, and its joyful air.”

    “Doctor Brendan Nelson,” cried an incredulous Turnbull as he fell to his knees at the sight of the Opposition Leader he had so brutally dispatched in 2008. “I beg you spare me from retribution!”

    “I have no interest in revenge, Malcolm,” said the spirit affably. “In fact, you inadvertently did me a favour by knifing me in the back. Like you, I never was a successful Opposition Leader. Unlike you, I realised I still had much to offer the public after politics. It may sound ironic, but you could say this ghost got himself a life. I suggest you do the same,” he adds as he disappears.

    Hours later, another phantom appears. Unlike the other three it is silent and shrouded. “Am I in the presence of the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come” asks Turnbull, hesitatingly. “What is my fate?” Suddenly they were no longer at Turnbull’s Point Piper home, but inside ABC head office at Ultimo. Beckoning, the phantom pointed towards a studio door, above which appears in neon lights ‘The Drum’.

    Turnbull looks through the door window at the panellists. Among them is the face of a wizened old man, his expression cast in a permanent sneer that borders on hatred. It is misery and contempt personified.

    Turnbull recoils in horror. “That is not me!” He then relaxes, and the old cocksure demeanour returns. “You have the wrong former Liberal Opposition Leader. That is Doctor John Hewson. He is so consumed with hatred he does not realise the ABC regards him as a useful fool, the token Liberal, and a talking marionette whom they can rely on to hurl the usual anti-Coalition barbs,” he snorts. “Fancy being reduced to that level, and for what? Petty revenge and a cab voucher. You do not need a psychiatrist to determine that ultimately it is himself whom he secretly loathes. It has been nearly a quarter of a century since he was deposed as leader, and he still cannot accept that. Pathetic!”

    The phantom makes no sound, but instead points to a digital date display in the studio. It is December 6, 2042. Suddenly Turnbull understands. “Spirit!”, he cries shuddering from head to foot. “I see, I see. The case of this unhappy man might be my own. My life tends that way now. Merciful heaven, what is this!”

    ******************************************************************************

    You know the ending. The old miser seizes the chance to redeem himself, and one of his first acts that Christmas Day is to purchase a prize turkey for the loyal Cratchit, who he had treated with such contempt. I wonder how that would turn out in Turnbull’s case were he to turn up at Kirribilli House with a gift for a man he continues to malign, undermine and scorn?

    Morrison would leave Turnbull in no doubt about what he could do with his prize turkey.

    Oz for comments

  120. Notafan

    What other decisions should be our doctors be able to make for the betterment of society?

    and they don’t even have to be Australian citizens!

  121. Boambee John

    What other decisions should be our doctors be able to make for the betterment of society?

    When it is time for the proles to be exited?

    Interesting new medical experiments to be tried on said proles? (Dr Mengele smiles.)

  122. jupes

    The list of countries who will not sign the UN migration pact keeps growing:

    Poland
    Hungary
    Israel
    Czech Republic
    Austria
    Bulgaria
    Italy
    Lithuania
    Australia

    What about the USA? Surely The Donald won’t sign such a commy document.

  123. John Constantine

    St John of God Subiaco signs up with AEB affinity to have a crack at marijuana.

    Now even St Johns is developing cannabis products, how much more mainstream can marijuana get?.

    Everything you learned about marijuana at university may be wrong.

  124. Mother Lode

    What a dickhead of a Police Commissioner.

    People are responding to the state of lawlessness that exists, and your departments policy of throwing the book at people who drive 115kph in a 110kph zone rather than the all too common violent home invaders.

    If the armed wing of the State Revenue Office won’t or can’t protect the citizens, do you expect them to just sit idly hoping, in silence, with the lights turned off and their eyelids clenched, that it happens to someone else.

    What does the department believe – that if the police can’t protect you, no one should. Least of all yourself.

    Your’e armed I will bet, you f’wit. And I doubt you have not been in any more danger lately than posed by a slightly too hot Krispy Kreme.

  125. John Constantine

    Has their turnfailure government-in-exile gone to sign the globlal compact on dewesternisation through demographic genocide yet?.

    The resistance would love their hussein obama to sign on behalf of the confederation of anti-american states, so why not stabby bishop/tuenfailure signing us up?.

    If victoria can sign australias infrastructure away to the Tyrant of all the chicoms in exchange for the beads and mirrors of one belt one road, why not states and councils sign up for this one?.

    Australias revolutionary councils would jump at the symbolic opportunity.

  126. Mother Lode

    Same pose as the bloke who ran Italy up until late in WW II often used

    That crossed my mind also.

  127. C.L.

    It seems Labor, The Greens and the ‘independents’ have embraced rule by doctors.

    What they’re trying to do is to position “mental illness” as a loophole – the same way they did with abortion.

  128. Baldrick

    Church victims yell abuse at an innocent man …

    The embattled former Adelaide Archbishop Philip Edward Wilson is a free man after winning an appeal against his conviction and jail term for covering up child sex abuse.
    In a landmark judgment that will have far reaching legal implications, a New South Wales judge on Thursday ruled the clergyman, 68, did not conceal a former paedophile priest colleague’s crimes.
    There were angry scenes in court as victims wept and yelled abuse.

  129. John Constantine

    Their abc rural independent wymynsys in Benambra has succeeded in cutting the libs down from near ten percent margin to a couple percent.

    If their abc is going to run the abc rural independent brand as a political party, why doesn’t it have to register its donations?.

    When their abc donates priceless advertising and advertorial time and energy, and runs the media strategy for its abc rural independents, then gets them to vote in favour of the abc getting money in parliment, isn’t this corrupt cash for comment?.

    Comrades?.

  130. Baldrick

    Church victims yell abuse at an innocent man …

    The embattled former Adelaide Archbishop Philip Edward Wilson is a free man after winning an appeal against his conviction and jail term for covering up child sex abuse.
    In a landmark judgment that will have far reaching legal implications, a New South Wales judge on Thursday ruled the clergyman, 68, did not conceal a former paed.ophile priest colleague’s crimes.
    There were angry scenes in court as victims wept and yelled abuse.

  131. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Empire Club discriminated man over ‘African appearance’, tribunal finds

    AAP
    15 minutes ago December 6, 2018

    A young man refused entry to a Victorian nightclub has been awarded $3000 after it was ruled he was discriminated because of his race.

    Ivan Kibet, who says he is of “African appearance”, was the only one of his friends turned away from the Empire Club in the Melbourne suburb of Narre Warren on October 7 last year.

    Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal senior member Bernadette Steele said on Thursday he had “suffered humiliation” and “hurt”, as she ordered the club to pay him compensation.

    Mr Kibet was with an all-white group, bar one person of Indian descent, when he attempted to enter the club.

    While a few of his companions were allowed entry without question, he and two others were told it was a “members only” night and they were not permitted. The trio changed their clothes and on a second attempt only Mr Kibet was refused entry, with his friends later noting that most people inside were of Caucasian appearance.

    Jonathan Leota, head doorman, said he had “picked up on a mannerism” that meant he did not want to allow the friends into the club, but Ms Steele said CCTV showed the group were “unremarkable looking” and not acting in a boisterous manner.

    “The most immediately obvious thing about Mr Kibet, in a crowd of white people, is that he is not white,” she said in her ruling.

    “Given that none of the innocent explanations offered for excluding Mr Kibet were at all likely on careful examination, I was satisfied that he was excluded from the club because of his race, specifically his appearance.” Mr Kibet said he felt hurt and humiliated following the incident, had received treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder and cut ties with his Caucasian friends to reduce his sense of shame.

    From the Oz. Treatment for post traumatic stress disorder for not being allowed into a nightclub, FFS.

  132. Baldrick

    The embattled former Adelaide Archbishop Philip Edward Wilson is a free man after winning an appeal against his conviction and jail term for covering up child sex abuse.

    Remember this …

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has called on the Pope to “sack” Adelaide’s Archbishop Philip Wilson.
    The Archbishop has refused to quit his post, and Mr Turnbull has previously said Wilson should resign — a call echoed by Opposition Leader Bill Shorten and South Australian Premier Steven Marshall.
    Today the Prime Minister intensified the pressure on the Catholic Church by saying “the time has come for the Pope to sack him”.

  133. Black Ball

    Dean Jones was spanked for calling Hashim Amla a terrorist. Wondering what his thoughts are on Kawajha?

  134. Notafan

    Thank God there is a little justice left our legal system.

    As for our alleged leaders

    shame on them

    particularity Shorten, given his circumstances

  135. Black Ball

    Baldrick, another fuck up by Turnbull. He has a real bad strike rate of success doesn’t he?

  136. struth

    I never defended Hillary and I was the FIRST to support Trump.

    Nope I
    and many others here were also right there at the start.
    You don’t get to own that.

  137. calli

    I had a look at the SMH’s report just up on the Wilson case. Part of it:

    Magistrate Stone sentenced Wilson to 12 months’ jail – to be served as a minimum six months home detention at a relative’s home on the Central Coast – after rejecting that argument.

    He found Wilson was “hiding behind a ‘formal view’ of what ‘belief’ means in a criminal context”.

    Judge Ellis earlier said it could also be argued it was a “reasonable position” that Wilson “did not have to form a belief about it”.

    What on earth does that even mean? It looks like words randomly tossed together. Jabberwocky makes more sense.

  138. struth

    Sco Mo is against people smuggling on boats and very Pro flying them in under the radar.

    He has still sent a silly bitch over to Poland to sign us up to surrender to the next attack by socialists against the west.
    He hasn’t done a thing about power except to put the blame on business who you can’t blame for taking offered tax money, and would have let the last migration pact slide through if people hadn’t woken up thanks to, I believe , sky channel now getting out to the regions where Australians actually live.

    Annie claiming a win here is very premature, and I would say for a conspiracy theorist, surprisingly naïve.

    There’s plenty more of those agreements where they came from (mostly drawn up by Australian Marxist bureaucrats in DFAT and the like) , another one to be signed shortly.
    Like Brexit, they’ll just keep doing it , knowing the people will take their eye off the ball they are hiding anyway, and get on with their undemocratic agenda.
    Until the people of Australia demand our exit from the UN or reform it so that socialists and totalitarian nations are not involved, we cannot claim even the smallest battle as won.
    Like the japs, these people won’t stop until they are utterly and overwhelmingly destroyed.

  139. Dr Fred Lenin

    Dunno about turnbull being first president though he has worked hard to destroy the liberals for the alp,Im sure there are old time union mafia dons in for the lob . Giliard could be a strong contender she does look like a woman . Krudd is out he tried to be king of the world but ened up with a consolation job looking after international shithouses . Hawke and Keating are past it whilam is dead ,languishing in purgatory (, God told St Peter “theres only room for one God in heaven ,and Im it “.and Satan said something similar) . How about the cfmeu boss ? Are people with criminal convictions allowed in the job ? Dont see why not only difference with him is he got caught.

  140. Confused Old Misfit

    During the trial Wilson said he had no memory of allegations being raised with him in 1976. Wilson also argued his belief about the truthfulness of allegations was based on “either an admission or on the conclusion of a trial”.

    I would guess that Ellis concluded “belief” was not necessary if the allegations truthfulness was based on an admission (of guilt) or on the result of a trial of the accused.
    Whereas Stone appears to have concluded that a crime was committed because Wilson failed to act in the absence of either an admission or the results of a trial.
    But I’m probably just propagating more Jabberwocky! 😉 (`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves…..)

  141. jupes

    When their abc donates priceless advertising and advertorial time and energy, and runs the media strategy for its abc rural independents, then gets them to vote in favour of the abc getting money in parliment, isn’t this corrupt cash for comment?.

    In theory – of course. In practice no. This is about the only thing Australia excels at these days – legal corruption.

  142. Baldrick

    Baldrick, another fuck up by Turnbull. He has a real bad strike rate of success doesn’t he?

    As does the whole Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party. 😼

  143. H B Bear

    Baldrick, another fuck up by Turnbull. He has a real bad strike rate of success doesn’t he?

    Apart from his insider maaaates deal with Oemail at the height of the Inernet madness it is one failure after another. Without the vampire squid bailing him out he would likely have served time in stone college for the FAI HIH deal.

  144. H B Bear

    The ALPBC love a rural “independent” when they run against an agrarian socialist or a Lieboral. So does GetUp.

  145. JC

    Women’s sport.. lol who cares.

    I must admit though, I don’t mind the boxing because there far more knockouts and boy, they go down cold.

  146. Tailgunner

    I have $1 AUD that says that the RC into supergrass will find that there is insufficient evidence to prosecute any senior vikpol plods. (and they were just young and naive)

    Arma -that would the 2.50 fav surely?
    Book update please.

  147. Cassie of Sydney

    “Notafan
    #2879889, posted on December 6, 2018 at 3:58 pm
    Thank God there is a little justice left our legal system.

    As for our alleged leaders

    shame on them

    particularity Shorten, given his circumstances”

    Agree and Bill Shorten should be called out for this and told to keep his mouth shut.

  148. Muzzlehatch

    OldOzzie
    #2879826, posted on December 6, 2018 at 2:07 pm
    open with firefox

    I just had a quick play with that hack and it works fine on Firefox 63.0.3 for Ubuntu. I tried it on a few from the long list of publications on the add-on install tab. The Oz wasn’t on that list despite what others have observed. I havent time to mess with it ATM, but will return later.

    Thanks enormously for sharing that Old Ozzie.

  149. Zyconoclast

    Why I’m considering giving my eight-year-old daughter puberty blockers

    http://www.essentialkids.com.au/development-advice/puberty/why-im-considering-giving-my-eightyearold-daughter-puberty-blockers-20181203-h18oox

    Because you are a child abusing deviant ?

  150. Black Ball

    Pujara showing how Test cricket is played.

  151. Rockdoctor

    The new F35s fly into Williamtown on Monday and apparently they will do a Bay flyover. I can hardly wait for the roar.

    Saw 2 of them fly into RAAF Garbutt earlier this year, had to look twice to confirm what I saw but it was definitely them. Yeah they aren’t any quieter than their 4th generation cousins…

  152. Zyconoclast

    Volkswagen has put an expiry date on future development of its combustion engines.
    The German car maker says the next generation of its petrol engines will also be its last when they launch in 2026.
    According to a report from Reuters, VW says it will continue to adapt its petrol and diesel engined cars to meet environmental standards during the lifetime of those vehicles, but is now committed to radical steps to stop global warming.

    https://m.drive.com.au/motor-news/vw-to-stop-development-of-petrol-engines-in-2026-120283.html?ffref=smh&trackLink=SMH0

  153. jupes

    Buckle up fellas, women’s sport is winning all the plaudits

    Oh thank fuck. Professional wrongologist Pirate Pete has hitched his wagon to emasculated sport.

  154. Notafan

    During the trial Wilson said he had no memory of allegations being raised with him in 1976. Wilson also argued his belief about the truthfulness of allegations was based on “either an admission or on the conclusion of a trial”.

    Tis very confusing

    Wilson doesn’t remember the allegation being raised with him in 1976.

    What does it matter about a general belief about the truth of an allegation needing to be confirmed by an admisssion of guilt or after being found guilty at trial.

    A standard most nonpartisan non eye witnesses would hold, well until #believeallwomen came along

  155. jupes

    According to a report from Reuters, VW says it will continue to adapt its petrol and diesel engined cars to meet environmental standards during the lifetime of those vehicles, but is now committed to radical steps to stop global warming.

    Wow! VWs can control the weather now. Who would have guessed?

    Seems this global warming insanity is approaching a crescendo. A lot of people are losing their minds.

  156. Muzzlehatch

    OldOzzie
    #2879826, posted on December 6, 2018 at 2:07 pm
    open with firefox

    Github Release page for the anti paywall hack

    Just installed from here and it now works on the Oz too (albeit with a nag).

  157. Notafan

    On other news VW had abandoned plans to make vehicles for the people, or possibly at all.

  158. Tailgunner

    Paysuers.
    Great stuff Annie.
    Keep it up please.
    The red pill is too harsh for even the gladiators on the Cat. Maybe not forever though.
    Stimps has gone of to the farm because the JQ is verboten here.

  159. struth

    According to a report from Reuters, VW says it will continue to adapt its petrol and diesel engined cars to meet environmental standards during the lifetime of those vehicles, but is now committed to radical steps to stop global warming.

    They’ll be gone before 2026 then.
    I won’t miss then for a second.

    Germans are fuckwits.
    Always have been.
    Too easily led.
    They wouldn’t know how to find their own arses without directions.

    Anyone who has been to Europe and Britain can instantly see why the truly self confident Brits always won against the try hards with chips on their shoulders.
    They can’t stand the fact they’re not truly confident, like the British, neither can the French.
    Generally a bunch of sad sacks.

    Italians are the best people in Europe, the most fun, and have a beautiful country.

  160. JC

    According to a report from Reuters, VW says it will continue to adapt its petrol and diesel engined cars to meet environmental standards during the lifetime of those vehicles, but is now committed to radical steps to stop global warming.

    Wow! VWs can control the weather now. Who would have guessed?

    Seems this global warming insanity is approaching a crescendo. A lot of people are losing their minds.

    Naa. They’re working on a better program to fool the regulators. 🙂

  161. JC

    Don’t forget the Swedes, Struth. A couple of stray nukes and the world would be better off with those fuckwits. They’re always badly influencing the Germans too:-)

  162. Black Ball

    Oh thank fuck. Professional wrongologist Pirate Pete has hitched his wagon to emasculated sport.

    He was a Wallaby

  163. struth

    The red pill is too harsh for even the gladiators on the Cat.

    What is the red pill again?
    Hasn’t it something to do with women who have found out that many of their own sex go purely insane when let out of the kitchen?

  164. Notafan

    There should be a women’s sport diversity music extravaganza.

    In Melbourne, at the G, via public transport only,

    cisgendered male entry fee only, everyone else attends free

    Live on ABC tv

    Will be huge.

    True story

    Dan will do it

  165. calli

    I thought the red pill was a Matrix meme.

  166. Makka

    As usual the SFL have the same policy as Labor. Equally stupid but just not quite as bad.

    Exactly. The UNiparty election charade begins. We have a choice!
    Migrants or migrants. High energy costs or high energy costs. 0 wage growth or 0.1 wage growth ( after you work your way into the next tax bracket). Destroy the fkg Libs.

  167. struth

    Don’t forget the Swedes, Struth. A couple of stray nukes and the world would be better off with those fuckwits. They’re always badly influencing the Germans too:-)

    I never went to Sweden.
    I told Mrs Struth last holiday that we spent too much time in Germany at the expense of better places we could have gone.
    Of course you are not to know until you go there.
    But remember, I think that Australia and Australians in other ways are worse.
    Far worse.
    I love Autobahns, clean roadhouses, the lack of slobby fat fucks with tattoos, as our women now are, buying alcohol anywhere and being treated like an adult, so I just want to reiterate that.
    I hate it when Australians belittle other countries.
    We really have no right.
    But facts are facts.
    Germans are sad weird fucks, and yes Australians suck too*.

    *Generalising of course

  168. JC

    0 wage growth or 0.1 wage growth ( after you work your way into the next tax bracket). Destroy the fkg Libs.

    ‘Sactly. Destroy the libs and appoint more high octane labor hacks on FairWork board that will dish out wage hikes of 10% a month. You’d love that, right, Comrade? 🙂

  169. egg_

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    Too bad Conchita Wurst is a Righty.

  170. struth

    Italians are the best people in Europe, the most fun, and have a beautiful country

    They do have a slight problem with image conscious behaviour and clothing brand names etc.
    There’s too far one way (Australians like me work boots and polo shirt), and too far the other, young urban Italians in poofy sand shoes and designer sunnies.

  171. Bruce of Newcastle

    VW are chasing a rabbit down a hole into blue pill land.

    Oh Dear: Electric Car Sales Drop Sharply Due To High Prices And Bad Batteries (3 Dec)

    There has been a dramatic slowdown in the switchover to pure electric cars in the past 12 months because of concerns about high prices and a lack of roadside chargers, according to a study published today.

    Figures show that sales of electric cars — those with no exhaust emissions — increased by 7 per cent in 2017-18 compared with a year earlier, with 878 more cars being sold. The rate of growth dropped from 21 per cent the year before, when an additional 2,238 vehicles were sold.

    In all, electric car sales were 13,586 in the year to the end of June, representing 0.6 per cent of all new vehicles on British roads.

    And most of those would be virtue signallers like government departments. Even there the things aren’t actually going to get driven much since no one wants to drive them.

    The best-selling electric car is the Nissan Leaf, which starts at £26,500, followed by the BMW i3, which costs at least £34,445.

    The Leaf is an up-market golf cart, with a tiny range due to the 24 kWh battery. Which again suggests it is all virtue signally. There’s no way you could drive one from London to Birmingham without stopping, let alone to Glasgow.

    The only thing that will get anyone to buy the wretched things is if there is nothing else. Which means totalitarian action by government. VW might be ok with that, given their history.

  172. Makka

    ‘Sactly. Destroy the libs and appoint more high octane labor hacks on FairWork board that will dish out wage hikes of 10% a month. You’d love that, right, Comrade

    Making shit up again , numpty? Fairwork can do that now if they chose. Idiot.

  173. Myrddin Seren

    nota gets it:

    On other news VW had abandoned plans to make vehicles for the people, or possibly at all.

    The brand name will presumably remain VW, but the reality will be Elitenwagen.

    Expensive EVs with limited range, affordability and exclusive buying lists.

    If the price of the EVs doesn’t discourage the Deplorable Proles from wanting to drive ( see Macron F – The Paris Revolution of 2018 ) then the limited availability of surplus electricity to charge them up will see strictly rationed availability to buy.

    EW ( formerly VW ) will still make some vehicles – to transport the tens of thousands attending Climate Change Conferences for example – but they will mostly be harvesting subsidies, just like the rest of Big Renewable.

    We will gaze in awe as the Rich, Powerful and Virtuous glide on by while we trudge along with our hand carts.

    Just like in the period pre-WW1 before that awful Henry Ford guy helped make motoring accessible. ( I am being sarcastic here ).

  174. Gab

    Hey recall when Archbishop’s Wilson case was before the court, accused of covering up sexual abuse? Remember how it was front page news for days?

    Bet you didn’t know the conviction was quashed today, that’s because there’s little or no media coverage about it. https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/former-adelaide-catholic-archbishop-philip-wilson-has-conviction-quashed/news-story/74aba6fcd7b01a7808e498e8ac3996cb

  175. Sinclair Davidson

    Philip Wilson’s ‘conviction’ overturned.

  176. Tailgunner

    I thought the red pill was a Matrix meme.

    Yes. Originally.
    Some of the pills are nearly black nowadays.
    Hard to swallow.
    But pervasive.
    Meme magic.

  177. Sinclair Davidson

    That’s what all the girls say.

  178. Myrddin Seren

    Stardate 2026.

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    And audiences. Once the entry quotas are filled – all pale, stale, hetero males can get out. And do not go thinking you can set up instruments and play to other pale, stale, males in the park – the Federal Music Police will be watching out on the ubiquitous surveillance camera network.

    Buckle up fellas, women’s sport is winning all the plaudits

    Conversely the disinterest in attending female sporting fixtures will be addressed by enrolling pale, stale Males to compulsorily attend – much like jury duty. Still – there might be some vicarious blood sport pleasure in watching +100 kg trannies cutting a swathe like Boudicca’s chariot ?

  179. notafan

    Make that ‘free’ roadside chargers?

    I suspect having to pay market rates for electricity might make virtue signalling even less attractive.

  180. Mother Lode

    Because you are a child abusing deviant ?

    Well, when the kid grows up and decides thewant a house, they will (as progressives insist they should) look at their parents ensconced in their home and smoulder that they should be expelled to make room for the younger generation, and then realise they can sue their parents for how they were brought up.

    After a coupleof cases squeeze through, there will be a deluge.

  181. Makka

    Looks like the AUD correction has lost it’s legs;

    Many economists who were calling for rate hikes next year have now pushed back their call for policy tightening into 2020, or beyond.

    And today Shane Oliver, Chief Economist at AMP Capital, has broken ranks with the prevailing market view, suggesting the next move in the RBA cash rate won’t be higher, but lower, with the risk of more than just one cut being delivered.

    “Given the combination of falling house prices, tightening credit conditions and constrained growth, which will keep wages growth weak and inflation below target, we are changing our view on the RBA from being one of rates on hold out to second half of 2020 to now seeing the next move being a rate cut,” Oliver said following the release of Australia’s national accounts.

    “However, with the RBA still seeing the next move as being up it will take them a while to change their thinking so we don’t see rates being cut until second half next year.

    “When it does start cutting the RBA will likely stick to 0.25% increments, and since rate moves are a bit like cockroaches, there is likely to be more than one.”

    Oliver joins Stephen Koukoulas of Market Economics as the only forecaster surveyed by Bloomberg who is calling for the next move in the cash rate to be lower.

    However, they may not be the last. A range of analysts today were starting to talk about the potential for cuts — something that often precedes official changes in forecasts.

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/australia-economy-q3-gdp-rba-rate-cut-2018-12

  182. Mother Lode

    Sod it – what is the moderation for now?

  183. Tailgunner

    Shut up, Struth.
    Get back to not offending Leftist tourists!
    😀
    Good to see you back old timer

  184. egg_

    VWs can control the weather now.

    A Bug or a feature – or both?

  185. egg_

    VW says it will continue to adapt its petrol and diesel engined cars to meet environmental standards during the lifetime of those vehicles

    How about a (Russian) LNG-battery hybrid?
    Kaboom!

  186. calli

    VW…grrrrr. I lost a shedload on my Passat.

    Never ever buy Kraut again.

  187. jupes

    the lack of slobby fat fucks with tattoos, as our women now are,

    I’ve always thought a few tats enhances the looks of chubby chicks. The fatter the chickadee, the more tats is the formula I like. Green hair and a nose ring helps as well.

  188. egg_

    Wow! VWs can control the weather now. Who would have guessed?

    Seems this global warming insanity is approaching a crescendo.

    There’s now an Insaneometer on the dash?

  189. struth

    Shut up, Struth.
    Get back to not offending Leftist tourists!

    Seriously, wasn’t red pilling something to do with a feminist movie maker who changed her mind and decided men were great after all?

    Oh god, Yawn…………………..I’m trying to be interested.

  190. Zyconoclast

    Italians are the best people in Europe, the most fun, and have a beautiful country

    They forgot how to make babies.
    Too much fake fun and not enough real fun.

  191. Elle

    Bet you didn’t know the conviction was quashed today, that’s because there’s little or no media coverage about it.

    Not sure where you are, Gab, but it’s all over the media here in NSW.

  192. egg_

    Sigmund Blot has diagnosed the problem with Lord Waffleworth – mummy issues. That might be why he is married to Edna Everage.

    Grigs must be yearning for Lucy’s skin?

  193. Myrddin Seren

    Geoff Chambers – who lives in France – writes on the Yellow Jacket protests and the bewildered response from the French establishment.

    On November 27th…..

    Macron spoke for half an hour about energy transition before getting to the subject of the current climate of insurrection. ……His high councils and pluriannual programmation can go take a running jump.

    Blathering about the climate for half an hour before announcing that he had nothing to offer the men and women who have been standing day and night for two weeks round campfires on motorway exits was a sure way of keeping the movement going.

    Uh oh – he is a Gallic Kevin Rudd. How can there be so many of these freaks in politics ?!

    I get my information largely from three “independent” rolling news channels, all owned by millionaire oligarchs, and financed by ads which are almost exclusively for fast cars and perfumes …

    In other words – the Establishment…

    BUT, these French channels are devoting 95% of their time (I’m not exaggerating) to a movement supported by 85% of the population, which is now demanding the resignation of a president recently elected by 65% of voters, plus the dissolution of parliament, to be replaced by some kind of popular assembly.

    Whoops – Macron has to hotfoot it back to Paris and see if the military will deploy tanks and troops to ruthlessly crush the Deplorables ?

    To Save the Planet……..

  194. struth

    They forgot how to make babies.
    Too much fake fun and not enough real fun.

    They were priced out of it, like we all have been.
    Want babies, fix the economy.
    The governments don’t want them or us breeding.
    They’d have no reason to change the demographic to more easily controlled, divided tribes.

  195. Bruce of Newcastle

    which is now demanding the resignation of a president recently elected by 65% of voters

    That’s because socialist Macron lied that he is an independent centrist.

    Amazing how these soft-faced men magically turn into Green activists, like a slowly developing photograph.

    I wonder who the next one will be?

  196. Speedbox

    jupes
    #2879976, posted on December 6, 2018 at 5:29 pm

    Then you’d love it where I am currently working.

    You know how the Government talks about the ‘obesity epidemic’? Well this place is ground zero. I have never seen so many morbidly obese people in my life in one place. It seems to start with children from age 3 or 4 who are already starting to carry too much weight and the frequency of men/women with an ‘acceptable’ BMI is isolated to rare.

    Over time, I will not be surprised if the life expectancy (in this area) crashes to under 70 years.

  197. C.L.

    Congratulations to His Grace Archbishop Emeritus Wilson.
    And to the lying wackos and oddball child abuse hobbyists who yelled abuse at him, suck it up.

    Flashback to July: Catholic Bishops advise Archbishop Wilson to resign.

    Cowards.

    Archbishop Philip Wilson’s closest bishop colleagues have advised him to resign after Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten called for his resignation following his jail sentence on Tuesday.

    Australian Catholic Bishops Conference president Archbishop Mark Coleridge confirmed a number of Australian bishops had “offered their advice privately”, after Wilson’s refusal to resign was widely condemned on Wednesday when he announced his decision to appeal his conviction for concealing child sex allegations.

  198. BoN:

    There has been a dramatic slowdown in the switchover to pure electric cars in the past 12 months because of concerns about high prices and a lack of roadside chargers, according to a study published today.

    Think of it terms of creative destruction. VW and others will burn through their capital and go tits up before their ossified managerial structure will admit they got it wrong.
    Remember that a bureaucrat will admit error.
    Then some other company will make a motza while the shareholders of VW, who cooed and clapped at the annual presentations, get to learn about poverty first hand.

  199. struth

    I’ve always thought a few tats enhances the looks of chubby chicks. The fatter the chickadee, the more tats is the formula I like. Green hair and a nose ring helps as well.

    True Story.
    My son brought one of these things home once.
    My son is a good looking young man.
    He was about nineteen then.
    My base player was having a few drinks with me and saw it.
    He was a wild , big man, a Harley rider but not in a club, type.

    He put his drink down and said.
    I’m gonna punch some sense into your son.
    If he had meant it, I think I might have let him.

  200. JC

    Makka
    #2879954, posted on December 6, 2018 at 5:09 pm

    ‘Sactly. Destroy the libs and appoint more high octane labor hacks on FairWork board that will dish out wage hikes of 10% a month. You’d love that, right, Comrade

    Making shit up again , numpty? Fairwork can do that now if they chose. Idiot.

    Oh okay, if not, how you think other than reducing immigration and leaving energy production to markets,…..what eggsactly are you proposing as a way to raise nominal wages.

    Go!

    Here’s your chance to shine, Champ.

  201. Remember that a bureaucrat will never admit error.
    I put it down to the heat…

  202. Tailgunner

    ” Fairwork can do that now if they chose. Idiot.
    Oh, please make this so.
    Go Tits, you magnificent bastard!

  203. C.L.

    I note that in quashing the loony, mob-fueled conviction of Philip Wilson, Judge Roy Ellis went out of his way to say the Archbishop was an absolutely reliable, consistent, honest and forthright witness.

  204. Tailgunner

    feminist movie maker

    That chick is worth wifing up.
    For real. Tell me I’m wrong?
    Dot – get in here please.

  205. Zyconoclast

    Traveling through a large coastal town in northern NSW.
    You just see how old the non diverse population of vanishing Australia is. Literally dying out.
    Taxi driver tells me half the clubs have shut down over the past 5-10 years.

    Not to worry, they are being replaced by East African vote heards.

  206. Tailgunner

    Struth – I need a gig to come to.
    I’ll be the guy in the Trump 2016 T-shirt drinking tequila.
    Where can I heckle your set?

  207. Tailgunner

    I’ve always thought a few tats enhances the looks of chubby chicks

    Lol, did someone here write that?

  208. Speedbox

    Volkswagen has put an expiry date on future development of its combustion engines. The German car maker says the next generation of its petrol engines will also be its last when they launch in 2026.

    As I have said before, the fix is already in. Governments, via the UN, decided years ago that the ICE was to be phased out in the name of climate change.

    Manufacturers (think Ford, GM, Daimler, Toyota, VW, Mazda, Hyundai, Honda, Fiat, BMW, Mitsubishi, Renault, Nissan, Volvo……..) have spent hundreds of billions on design and development of electric cars. VW recently announced it would have 27 ‘reasonably priced’ electric car models in production no later than 2022 and being manufactured in 16 plants globally. This next phase will cost VW $40Bn.

    It is public record that 17+ countries have already announced bans on new petrol or diesel engined cars with most bans commencing from 2030. And by 2040, that’s it – a new ICE car will be history and only pre-existing versions will be registerable.

    For the ICE’d motor car, its game over.

    (yes, heavy vehicles and equipment such as bulldozers etc are more problematic)

  209. OldOzzie

    Muzzlehatch
    #2879930, posted on December 6, 2018 at 4:40 pm

    OldOzzie
    #2879826, posted on December 6, 2018 at 2:07 pm
    open with firefox

    Github Release page for the anti paywall hack

    Just installed from here and it now works on the Oz too (albeit with a nag).

    Muzzlehatch

    Thanks for that have downloaded that latest version and emailed a copy of the site to myself for home iMac Foirefox

  210. bespoke

    Your intersectionality score: 20
    You are more privileged than 59% of others!

  211. Tailgunner

    Stimpson, get in here with a Paysuer link

  212. struth

    Struth – I need a gig to come to.
    I’ll be the guy in the Trump 2016 T-shirt drinking tequila.
    Where can I heckle your set?

    I’m not a comedian.
    Or at least not on purpose.

  213. littledozer

    My mates in Vic Lib rate Pessuto highly. This guy failed to mail out to the whole electorate prepoll forms and a HTV card. Had he done so he would have won.

    The problem with the party is no so much that wet cucks like Pessuto are their preferred representatives, but that the party membership keeps preselecting such types.

    FYI he was preselected by Admin before Kroger got the numbers. At that time Admin was made up exclusively of wet cucks. His opponent was John Roskam.

  214. Tailgunner

    Who’s coming to see my main man, Tommy Robinson in Feb in Melbourne?
    Mater, Arky, MsDoolittle, JC&Montel,
    Young or old.
    Lurkers -get off your ass.
    Everyone who wants to MAGA, has to attend.
    And we’re making an Entrance. To announce the Cat as UniParty Enemy Headquarters.
    Meme magic.

  215. S3xist and demeaning?

    Gamblers Doubling Down on Transgender Miss Universe Contestant to Win Pageant

    Miss Universe is breaking new ground at this year’s pageant with the first transgender contestant to ever compete for the crown, and those bettinig on the competition are declaring her a heavy favorite.

    Angela Ponce won her qualifying rounds in Spain and will represent her country at the 2018 Miss Universe pageant in Bangkok, Thailand

    https://theblast.com/miss-universe-spain-transgender-gambling-angela-ponce/

  216. Tailgunner

    “Play “Don’t change ya prick! “”
    Cheers!

  217. Frank

    Gives me warm feeling.
    The next generation of bogans is progressing well.

    Bogans: cultural inertia that works at odds with the chattering classes. God don’t we need them too these days.

  218. Tailgunner

    My mates in Vic Lib rate Pessuto highly.

    Lol.
    The Cat must vote Tits at every turn.
    Destruction of the cuckservatives is close.
    Goal 1.
    Red pill level 2

  219. Anne

    Tailgunner, there are three types of people:

    Those who can see.
    Those who are show and can see.
    Those who will never see.

    Where is Stimp?

  220. Tailgunner

    Struth – is that “red pill feminazi heretic” hot, or not?
    🙂

  221. Frank

    The Cat must vote Tits at every turn.

    Worth it if only to see the press trying to stifle the gag reflex as they proceed to act as Dolly’s fluffers for the next few years. No-one likes looking like a cheap whore.

  222. H B Bear

    Gamblers Doubling Down on Transgender Miss Universe Contestant to Win Pageant

    The punters know how this stuff works. Spain is full of hot chicks. Shame on them for going down the tranny route.

  223. vlad

    I read this today at the SMH and thought, “hmm,” ie I’m not 100% certain it’s wrong, but I’m sceptical.

    “The five stars of the Southern Cross were known to the ancient Greeks and Egyptians but by Roman times the Southern Cross had sunk below the horizon, disappearing from sight in the northern hemisphere, say astronomists from the Australian National University.”

    Would precession of the earth make that much difference in 2300 years (out of 25,000+)? Hmm and hmm again. Of course I’m only an amateur “astronomist” but still: hmm.

  224. dover_beach

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    Musicians pleading to ‘the man’ to make them more diverse. This is today’s so-called ‘counter-culture’.

  225. areff

    Of interest to Cats, perhaps. From November’s Quadrant:

    Now move forward to Tuesday, July 3, 2018, following the conviction in the Newcastle Local Court of Archbishop Philip Wilson of Adelaide, who was found guilty by Magistrate Robert Stone of covering up child sexual abuse in the Maitland-Newcastle diocese in 1976, when he was a junior priest aged around twenty-five. Due to the vagaries of Section 316 in the New South Wales Crimes Act, the archbishop’s conviction turned on the failure to have a reasonable excuse for not reporting the matter to the New South Wales Police during the period April 2004 to January 2006. He is appealing against the decision.

    On the ABC TV’s The Drum that evening, discussion turned to the Wilson case. Presenter Julia Baird noted towards the end of the discussion that “there seems to be a consensus on the panel here”. There sure was as—variously—Dee Madigan, Karen Middleton, Megan Motto and Stephen O’Doherty piled into the Catholic Church in general and Archbishop Wilson in particular. No one saw fit to mention that, when he was Bishop of Wollongong and later Archbishop of Adelaide, Philip Wilson was a leader in the Catholic Church in facing up to clerical child sexual abuse.

    And not one person on The Drum advised viewers that they had not read the decision—which has still not been released (even with redactions) and may never be released. This has led to a situation whereby what has been hailed as a decision of international significance is not readily available to be read in Australia or overseas. Frank Brennan has written to the New South Wales Attorney-General seeking the immediate release of Magistrate Stone’s decision with redactions.

    There are plenty of cassock-lifting abusers who deserve everything they get, starting with the late Father Byrne sj, who preyed on boys for years at Burke Hall here in Melbourne — the same school where gym master Willi Kovac was dismissed at mid-year without explanation, allowing him to continue molesting at other schools for the next 20 years. He is now back in prison at the the age of 86 with something like 80 convictions for boy bothering.

    The people who passed Willy along to other schools really do deserve to be in the dock.

    But they went went after Wilson because he was high-profile — the same reason they’ve near-martyred another prelate whose name cannot be typed.

    If anyone has a link to the appeal judge’s ruling it would be appreciated.

  226. Baldrick

    Gamblers Doubling Down on Transgender Miss Universe Contestant to Win Pageant

    My money’s on Miss South Africa. 😸

  227. Bruce of Newcastle

    “The five stars of the Southern Cross were known to the ancient Greeks and Egyptians but by Roman times the Southern Cross had sunk below the horizon

    Hanno the Navigator reputedly made it to the Equator in the 5th or 6th century BC. We know of him from the Greeks. The Romans had a trading post in southern India in Augustus’ time. Furthermore they were all trading furiously for ivory, so there would’ve been plenty stories coming over the Sahara trade route and up the east coast of Africa – which has probably been going since early Egyptian times.

    The idea that ancients were rubes is a conceit I’m not surprised to see in the Silly.

  228. None

    The former Catholic Archbishop of Adelaide Phil Wilson has won his appeal. Good. The original conviction and semtence was the biggest load of crock and totally corrupt. You do not serve Justice to those who were abused by trumping up charges to feed your own Daddy Issues.

  229. H B Bear

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    Beige Cardiganed Bureaucrat – “Look Axl I know Guns n’ Roses are popular but you’re going to have to add a tranny to the band if you want to play Australia this summer. No, putting Slash in a dress won’t do.”

  230. Rae

    Judge Roy Ellis was hostile to the Crown and favourable towards Wilson from the outset of the appeal before him. An appeal to the NSW Supreme Court now seems likely.

  231. Death Giraffe

    Who’s coming to see my main man, Tommy Robinson in Feb in Melbourne?

    ..
    I bet the do not let him in the country TG.

  232. .

    Anne
    #2879827, posted on December 6, 2018 at 2:08 pm

    My “betrayed women” comment before (over two years ago) was about Hillary Clinton.

    Annie, our tinfoil hat wearing Q crumb detective, was actually (although only tacitly) defending Hillary Clinton.

    You’re a liar and a sociopath, Dot.

    I never defended Hillary and I was the FIRST to support Trump.

    I was putting shit on Hillary. You blew up.

    I know context doesn’t matter anymore in current year, but you might want to start to bother yourself in reading comments you respond to.

  233. .

    Pretty sure Cassie Jaye is married. She is marriage material; but then again, Clammy Forward is married too.

  234. H B Bear

    areff – yep the whole thing was a stitch up. Like smokers Roman Catholic clergy are one of the groups you are allowed to vilify.

  235. .

    Rae
    #2880054, posted on December 6, 2018 at 7:01 pm

    Judge Roy Ellis was hostile to the Crown and favourable towards Wilson from the outset of the appeal before him. An appeal to the NSW Supreme Court now seems likely.

    Maybe there was a reason he was hostile? You really think the prosecution is going to appeal on the grounds of apprehended bias by a DCJ, whereas the original magistrate’s decision cannot even be read and is thoroughly redacted otherwise?

    Pull the fourth one behind the other one Rae, you must be milking a cow by now you’ve pulled this many times.

  236. H B Bear

    Dr Graegooglery MD QC weighs in.

  237. Makka

    I own your worthless head , numpty. You’ve become a demented rabid stalker.

    Oh okay, if not, how you think other than reducing immigration and leaving energy production to markets,….

    I’m not interested in the “other than”. That’s just your fatmouth ego trying to fashion a show and tell of your cornflakes packet Econ Major.

    My position is like the vast majority on this blog ( not the open borders nincompoops like you). I support huge cuts to immigration which will alleviate the downward pressure on wages brought on by competition for jobs. It will also allow public infrastructure to meet demand over time.That’s already acknowledged by the RBA . It will also force Oz business to invest in skilling up and developing local people to meet their needs rather than relying on imports. More opportunities locally with supply not being swamped by imports. I’ve already posted the huge difference and opposing trends of GDP splits between business profits vs salaries and wages. Profits portion booming, wages share tanking. Just what you would expect when globalists like you support big immigration and low wage growth. No surprises there. The immigration system in Australia is a fkg big rort designed to heap profits into the corporates at the expense of most others. Especially our quality of life. This is UNiparty policy.

    Our energy resource, generation and distribution markets are so deeply fkd up , over regulated and skewed they may be beyond any help. Until we abandon the RET and Paris accord fully and completely, rational sensible energy policy won’t begin to be possible. It’s that bad IMO.This is UNiparty policy

    Now, that’s the last I will answer your stupid fkg questions on immigration and why I want the Libs destroyed with what is so fkg obvious to everybody but you, numpty. You desperately want this country to continue it’s path to being and choked up 3rd world shithole because GDP. So you man up coward and own your globalist/corporatist policies but be honest and public with them and the glaringly obvious consequences. Not with slimey ecobabble bs either. That includes your support for open borders and lower wages.

  238. Muzzlehatch

    vlad
    #2880044, posted on December 6, 2018 at 6:44 pm

    “The five stars of the Southern Cross were known to the ancient Greeks and Egyptians but by Roman times …

    ” they up and skedaddled into The Southern Sky” !!!???

    The Astronimist in question is one Brad E Tucker. It might be interesting to get some clarification from the good Proffessor.

    Sounds like absolute piffle to me.

  239. C.L.

    Judge Roy Ellis was hostile to the Crown and favourable towards Wilson from the outset of the appeal before him. An appeal to the NSW Supreme Court now seems likely.

    There will be no appeal.

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