Wednesday Forum: December 5, 2018

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  1. .

    I like how Grigory just knows how the judge acted during the appeal and the ins and outs of the decision literally hours after the decision was made.

    Total bullshit.

  2. cohenite

    Baldrick

    #2880050, posted on December 6, 2018 at 6:55 pm

    Gamblers Doubling Down on Transgender Miss Universe Contestant to Win Pageant

    My money’s on Miss South Africa.

    She’s a stunner no doubt but she has some quality competition:

    https://www.missuniverse.com/contestants

  3. .

    Zyconoclast
    #2880014, posted on December 6, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    Traveling through a large coastal town in northern NSW.
    You just see how old the non diverse population of vanishing Australia is. Literally dying out.
    Taxi driver tells me half the clubs have shut down over the past 5-10 years.

    Not to worry, they are being replaced by East African vote heards.

    Yeah right. White people literally dying out in Yamba, being replaced by black Africans.

    WTF are you smoking up there?!

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dr Graegooglery MD QC weighs in.

    Dr Graegooglery NBG, DSO, V.D. and scar?

  5. will

    ” they up and skedaddled into The Southern Sky” !!!???

    it’s called precession of the equinoxes

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    Experience is a matter of life and death. I heard much cackling just now and went out to see what it was about.

    Young Mr Kookaburra had caught a mouse and was beside himself with excitement at such a marvellous achievement. He was showing it off to Mrs Kooka, who is much more experienced that he is. He is barely two years old. Such is the shortage of male kookas in my area he was snaffled immediately after he started noticing the other side of things.

    Unfortunately their chicks hatched only a week ago or thereabouts. So the kids are not much bigger than mice themselves.

    Didn’t stop him flying to the nest twice as I was watching in hope he could fit a large mouse into a small kookaburra chick. I don’t know what happened after that, but I do hope he didn’t succeed. Kookas aren’t known for their Heimlich ability.

  7. None

    All the Miss Universe contestants look the same. Long boring hair and the same eyebrows. My hair stylist -who is very senior in the industry – says Kim Kardashian has turned all women into clones whose only pose for photographs consists of the vacant stared porn pout. Augh. Once again I’m embarrassed by members of my biological sex. SheWiles.

  8. None

    All the Miss Universe contestants look the same. Long boring hair and the same eyebrows. My hair stylist -who is very senior in the industry – says Kim Kardashian has turned all women into clones whose only pose for photographs consists of the vacant stared porn pout. Augh. Once again I’m embarrassed by members of my biological sex. Sheeple.

  9. Tailgunner

    The Cat is the centre.
    We have to take over.
    Or die trying.

  10. Frank

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    Iowahawk said something about the left identifying institutions, gutting them and then parading about in the skin suit while demanding respect. Seems apt for this one.

  11. C.L.

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    LOL.

  12. Zyconoclast

    WTF are you smoking up there?!

    Yamba is small and safe.

    Try Coffs Harbour.

    Most of the smoking is in Nimbin and Byron I think.

  13. Tailgunner

    ..
    I bet the do not let him in the country TG.

    I hear you.
    But if he is…. The Cat MUST ATTEND.
    We are the resistance. Congratulations.

  14. Muzzlehatch

    will
    #2880069, posted on December 6, 2018 at 7:33 pm
    ” they up and skedaddled into The Southern Sky” !!!???

    OK . I am not about to argue the toss with someone whose job it is to be across such things. I guessed the shift would have been of the order of 5 degrees over 2500 years out of a half cycle of 13000 years with a tilt of 25 odd degrees.
    Must be I don’t understand the geometry of what’s going on.

    Interesting.

  15. Tailgunner

    Clammy Forward is married too.

    Sinc, it’s finally time to ban.; -\
    Get Game. Lift your Aim.

  16. bespoke

    Have we got to peak stupid yet?

  17. H B Bear

    Iowahawk said something about the left identifying institutions, gutting them and then parading about in the skin suit while demanding respect. Seems apt for this one.

    The Fabians were on to this long before Iowahawk (from Wikipedia),

    According to author Jon Perdue, “The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a ‘wolf in sheep’s clothing’, represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal.”[9] The wolf in sheep’s clothing symbolism was later abandoned, due to its obvious negative connotations

    The Left has been replacing the elements of Civil Society with the dead hand of government for ever.

  18. Black Ball

    Was a Miss Venezuela involved? She may have been a bit skinnier than usual.

  19. Infidel Tiger

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    Fantastic.

    Anything that destroys youth culture and gets these eternal children focused on getting married, having kids and starting a savings and investment account is a step in the right direction.

    Festivals and concerts is a holdover from Boomerism and only leads to slothfulness, shirking and dereliction of civic mindedness.

  20. Tailgunner

    Are you going to see Tommy in your city, bespoke?
    If you self-identify as a Nazi, rfar-right warrior…
    You have to Fight.

  21. .

    None
    #2880071, posted on December 6, 2018 at 7:34 pm

    All the Miss Universe contestants look the same. Long boring hair and the same eyebrows. My hair stylist -who is very senior in the industry – says Kim Kardashian has turned all women into clones whose only pose for photographs consists of the vacant stared porn pout. Augh. Once again I’m embarrassed by members of my biological sex. SheWiles.

    No, they don’t and they’re nearly all stunningly beautiful. WHich means they don’t look like Kim Kardashian West, thank christ.

    Every time beautiful women are mentioned, you’re triggered with rather poisonous results.

    Who hurt you?

  22. stackja

    Fast-moving bushfire threatens homes near Ballarat
    Staff writers, Herald Sun
    an hour ago

    An out-of-control bushfire raging near Ballarat has seen dozens evacuated as the fire continues to move south.

    The 40ha blaze has forced fire crews to deploy a large air tanker for the first time in Victoria this fire season, dropping up to 15,000 litres of water at a time.

    Flames as high as 20m and winds of up to 25 kmh are hampering CFA crews from controlling the blaze.

    No recent hazard reduction?

  23. calli

    Miss Brazil looks extremely naughty.

  24. Harlequin Decline

    Muzzlehatch
    #2880078, posted on December 6, 2018 at 7:44 pm

    If it helps look at it this way. The Southern Cross etc is not at the South Celestial Pole so from a fixed point on earth it rotates around the Pole as the earth rotates.

    This currently brings it into view from the northern hemisphere at latitudes up to about 25 deg which includes parts of North Africa. Go back in time, add a bit of precession and the fact that the Romans were in North Africa and the Middle East implies the assertion is probably correct.

  25. Frank

    Mr Spain still looks like a dude.

  26. Frank

    Meanwhile, Miss Australia–Francesca Hung–has some serious smoky bedroom eyes going on.

  27. MsDolittle

    Mr Spain still looks like a dude.

    Jaw line.

  28. Roger

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    “enforce…sexual diversity”…may be time for aspiring straight musicians to emigrate.

  29. Gab

    I do so hope the bloke wins the Miss Universe contest. It would be hilarious!

  30. Bruce of Newcastle

    MT at the Wentworth Christmas Party

    How dare he have a Christmas Party!

    To A Nation Of Snowflakes, Christmas Has Become Another Trigger Word (5 Dec)

    Someone should have told him to make it a Happy Holidays party.
    Although on second thought the poor man doesn’t seem at all happy.

  31. Ivan Denisovich

    But they went went after Wilson because he was high-profile — the same reason they’ve near-martyred another prelate whose name cannot be typed.

    They’ve near-martyred the other prelate because he is high-profile and especially because he is a staunch defender of Catholic teaching. They hate him for that.

  32. Frank

    I do so hope the bloke wins the Miss Universe contest. It would be hilarious!

    Is he pre or post op?

  33. Crossie

    This isn’t 1968. This is no ordinary development. Reportedly, 84% of French people in the latest poll support the protests, and their top concerns are the burdensome “climate” regulations, which are undermining every aspect of their economic lives, and the uncontrollable social impacts of mass migration into their country. As Alain said to Rebel media in the video, they’ve simply had enough.
    Notably, their country is seen as a refuge for others. But for the French, there is no refuge from policies that are destroying their way of life — because the EU idea is designed to deny them any such shelter. That is its very purpose.

    Having just read about the French protests at the Lid Blog I realised the Euros have finally had the last straw that broke the camel’s back. What could have been managed earlier by not pushing to hard on all sides is now out of control. First the protest was against the carbon tax and now it’s also about out of control immigration. Next week more grievances will be added.

    This is how the Iron Curtain and the Soviet Union fell, all of a sudden and nobody saw it coming. Granted, it is hard to predict what will be the breaking point and carbon tax in France didn’t seem to be a big deal seeing as how smug they were about their environmentalism.

    Whatever the trigger I hope it takes EU as a political and governing entity with it. They should have stopped at being a free trade block.

  34. Muzzlehatch

    Harlequin Decline
    #2880093, posted on December 6, 2018 at 8:11 pm

    I often get caught out by celestial phenomenon. In Central Australia I can tell time and direction within 10 degrees and 30 minutes. Put me in the Northern Hemisphere and my gyros topple completely. As to the Sun not setting in the Artic Circle?

    I could swear the full Moon halves in size as it climbs above the horizon and as to Crepuscular Rays , by my reckoning , given the way the trace back to the origin the Sun is probably a hundred miles or so away from the Earth.

    Next time I am near a Globe I will see if I can reconcile the apparent waywardness of the Southern Cross.

    Cheers.

  35. Frank

    Post op it is then if this means what normal English suggests.

    Ponce revealed she first began to explore her gender identity aged 11, and completed her transition in April 2014.

  36. Crossie

    MT at the Wentworth Christmas Party

    Went to gloat? Such class.

  37. Candy

    I think the young ladies of Cayman Islands and Belize have pretty and more individual looks. A lot of Kardashian types there, too much.

  38. H B Bear

    A blast from the past on Teh Dumb tonight with Fauxfacts (RIP) j’ismist Mark Kenny making an appearance. TEh Dumbsters enagage in a bit of misrepresentation describing him as “ANU” in the captions. Turns out he has some kind of gig at ANU which gives you some idea of where higher education is heading.

  39. Candy

    M Turnbull is just adrift and bit heartbroken after being shunted. Same way as Krudd and T Abbott. He has his vengeful history of course but you can still see he is hurting. Its hard not to feel sympathy for him as a person rejected. *

  40. bespoke

    Candy stop tormenting Dot. 😉

  41. jupes

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    Musicians pleading to ‘the man’ to make them more diverse. This is today’s so-called ‘counter-culture’.

    LOL

    Can they get any more pathetic? No seriously.

  42. jupes

    Bird update:

    Good stuff DG. 3 out of 3.

  43. jupes

    Its hard not to feel sympathy for him as a person rejected. *

    LOL

    You’re on fire Candy!

  44. Leigh Lowe

    I heard a snippet on a crackly and broken shortwave broadcast today.
    It sounded like they said that Archbishop Wilson’s conviction had been overturned on appeal.
    Surely not.
    No lesser legal intellect than Malcolm Trumble had written to the Vatican demanding Wilson be hung, drawn and quartered.
    Surely a legal mind of the stature of Trumble would not gave done this if there were appeals pending.
    Say it ain’t so.

  45. feelthebern

    Remember when Tony Abbott was booed for using the term “mothers & birth mothers”.
    Watching Louis Theroux & he’s used the term about 50 times in the first half an hour.

  46. Snoopy

    Dear Snoopy,

    When I wrote to you two days ago I felt that I was in a very difficult place.

    But today I have some welcome news.

    Today it was resolved to dismiss Garry Burn’s defamation proceeding against me. I was not expecting that this would occur and it is a relief to have achieved this before Christmas.

    It means that this matter is over and I have been able to successfully defend myself against his claim. However, he is continuing with his ongoing anti-discrimination complaints against me.

    The proceedings revolved around two comments left by third parties on my Facebook page. I deleted those comments in May when I became aware of them. I have posted a statement on my Facebook page about this and the necessity for those leaving comments not to make any adverse statements about other people.

    Furthermore, as a result of the dismissal of these proceedings I will be reinstating my webpage. It will include my original article about Garry Burns following my victory in the High Court of Australia. However this may take some time as I will use the opportunity over Christmas to plan for 2019.

    Please let me know any ideas you may have.

    Thank you once again for your generosity, support and prayers. Those prayers have been unexpectedly answered.

    Thank you also for the many emails I have received over the last few days. I have read most of them but have only been able to respond to a few. I am well aware that a number of you have raised other abuses of the justice system with me. At this stage I honestly don’t know how to address the problems that have been raised.

    However, I am grateful beyond words for your encouragement. So is my wife. We are just one small part of a much larger team.

    Kind regards,

    Bernard Gaynor
    Christus Rex!

  47. C.L.

    Miss Brazil looks extremely naughty.

    Wait, what did I miss?

  48. Mark A

    jupes
    #2880125, posted on December 6, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    Bird update:

    Good stuff DG. 3 out of 3.

    Just wait until they get fat and plump, then suddenly one of them suddenly disappears.

    Rejected, tossed out of the nest we hear.
    Yeah, likely story.

  49. John Constantine

    ERA energy resources announces today that the costs of complying with rehabilitating the Ranger uranium mine have risen by another 300 million dollars to a current estimate of 800 million dollars.

  50. feelthebern

    Remember, Malcolm telling a clergy chap to resign while his appeal is pending is ok.
    But when a couple of LNP ministers comment on trial & they’re hauled before the beak.

  51. John Constantine

    A billion dollars a mine to close down. Imagine the financing structures that will be demanded to open another uranium mine in australia.

  52. Snoopy

    P
    #2880128, posted on December 6, 2018 at 8:59 pm
    Mark Kenny – ANU Appointment

    Parachute!

    Clearly any government funding to ANU is unnecessary.

  53. vlad

    On the basis of this diagram and half a bottle of red I am willing to concede that two thousand years ago the Southern Cross would have been higher in European skies.

    Good night.

  54. Crossie

    Candy
    #2880121, posted on December 6, 2018 at 8:49 pm
    M Turnbull is just adrift and bit heartbroken after being shunted. Same way as Krudd and T Abbott. He has his vengeful history of course but you can still see he is hurting. Its hard not to feel sympathy for him as a person rejected. *

    No, it’s easy. This man is still trying to destroy politically and personally everyone who ever stood in his way.

  55. Zyconoclast

    A billion dollars a mine to close down. Imagine the financing structures that will be demanded to open another uranium mine in australia.

    But what about the village of Jabiru?
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/06/kakadu-uranium-mine-closure-planning-ignores-town-of-jabiru

  56. jupes

    Today it was resolved to dismiss Garry Burn’s defamation proceeding against me. I was not expecting that this would occur and it is a relief to have achieved this before Christmas.

    Good stuff. I read the earlier judgement you posted earlier and had no idea whether he’d won or lost. Doctors hand written scripts are easier to make sense of than that gobbledeegook.

    However, he is continuing with his ongoing anti-discrimination complaints against me.

    If this was a justice system rather than a legal system, the complaints would be dismissed and Burns would have to pay for the fucking lot plus damages.

  57. Rae

    Judge Roy Ellis was hostile to the Crown and favourable towards Wilson from the outset of the appeal before him. An appeal to the NSW Supreme Court now seems likely.

    There will be no appeal.

    Lol. Judge Roy Ellis, the NSW judge whose sentences have been most often increased on appeal. This latest one is tainted and is likely to go on appeal to the NSW Supreme Court, where his verdict will be overturned.

  58. Snoopy

    ERA energy resources announces today that the costs of complying with rehabilitating the Ranger uranium mine have risen by another 300 million dollars to a current estimate of 800 million dollars.

    How can removing dangerous uranium from a location incur such an expense?

  59. stackja

    Is the Mark Kenny move part of the Nine takeover? Bandanna next?

  60. Turtle of WA

    The authority of science, which is recognized by most philosophers of the modern epoch, is a very different thing from the authority of the Church, since it is intellectual, not governmental. No penalties fall upon those who reject it; no prudential arguments influence those who accept it. It prevails solely by its intrinsic appeal to reason. It is, moreover, a piecemeal and partial authority; it does not, like the body of Catholic dogma, lay down a complete system, covering human morality, human hopes, and the past and future history of the universe. It pronounces only on whatever, at the time, appears to have been scientifically ascertained, which is a small island in an ocean of nescience. There is yet another difference from ecclesiastical authority, which declares its pronouncements to be absolutely certain and eternally unalterable: the pronouncements of science are made tentatively, on a basis of probability, and are regarded as liable to modification. This produces a temper of mind very different from that of the medieval dogmatist.

    Bertrand Russell, 1945

    Hilarious to read today. “The Science” obviously hadn’t quite been settled in 1945.

  61. A ERA mine closure is going to cause the locals some pain.
    I might add that I don’t understand the closure.
    Seemed an OK mine when I was there.

  62. Makka

    New Vic Lib leadership

    Some choice comments;

    “The Liberal Party’s values are about freedom of the individual, reward for effort, environmental stewardship, looking after the vulnerable, about making sure that people have got the opportunity to achieve their full potential in life.

    Addressing the media following the partyroom meeting, Mr O’Brien sought to hit the reset button for the party, which has been criticised for drifting too far to the right and running a negative scare campaign concentrating on crime.

    Upper House MP Mary Wooldridge ( new Dep Leader)— one of just seven female parliamentarians in the party — said it must stop a lurch to the right of politics.

    Ms Wooldridge urged greater efforts to recruit more women to the party and did not rule out supporting quotas.

    Mr O’Brien defended the party’s record on climate change, saying it had a history of investing in renewables.

    “A majority of scientists are telling us that climate change is happening and the majority say humans are contributing to it, so let’s not have an argument over whether it’s happening or not, let’s have a contest of good ideas of how we can best address it,” he said.

    So in summary, more ruinables and higher energy costs, more wymmens and more leftard policies. Because that’s what Vic conservative voters are screaming for.

  63. notafan

    No doubt some facial surgery as well

    Bruce Jenner did that first

  64. C.L.

    … the NSW judge whose sentences have been most often increased on appeal.

    This phrasing aroused my suspicion because it sounds borrowed.
    A quick Google confirms it was lifted word for word from legal expert Ray Hadley.

  65. John Constantine

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/16/energy-resources-shares-plunge-after-traditional-owners-reject-jabiluka-uranium-expansion

    “ERA has said it would need to extend its operations beyond the present authority, which expires in 2021, for the project to proceed.

    But Rio Tinto has completely withdrawn its support for ERA’s plans to mine the Ranger 3 Deeps underground deposit.

    “Since June 2015, the traditional owners have become increasingly concerned that the difference of views between ERA and Rio Tinto remained unresolved,” said a statement from the Gundjeihmi corporation, adding its support to Rio Tinto’s plans for ERA.

    “The Mirarr now require certainty that ERA has access to the funds necessary to discharge its rehabilitation obligations at Ranger. That rehabilitation must ensure that the Ranger Project Area is rehabilitated such that it can be incorporated into the World Heritage listed Kakadu National Park.”

  66. Leigh Lowe

    A quick Google confirms it was lifted word for word from legal expert Ray Hadley.

    I think it is spelt “Rae Hadley”.

  67. Leigh Lowe

    ERA Ranger “rehabilitation” = an in perpetuity, ad infinitum indexed annuity for da tribe.

  68. Snoopy

    Good stuff. I read the earlier judgement you posted earlier and had no idea whether he’d won or lost. Doctors hand written scripts are easier to make sense of than that gobbledeegook.

    I get it Jupes, I had bugger all understanding what it meant as well. It was obvious Bernard was severely stressed. I guess that was the message as well.

  69. C.L.

    Ray Hadley, for his part, lifted the the claim (and that exact quote) from Fairfax legal affairs writer Joel Gibson who first published it nine years ago. Gibson was not criticising Ellis but, rather, judges whose sentences were judged excessive and reduced on appeal – principally, those of Justice Michael Finnane. Ellis – a luvvie – is mentioned in passing as an outlier whose sentences have most often been judged too lenient on appeal. However, only four years and nine months were added to his sentences.

  70. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I get it Jupes, I had bugger all understanding what it meant as well. It was obvious Bernard was severely stressed. I guess that was the message as well.

    Could make neither head nor tail of said judgement.

  71. jupes

    Addressing the media following the partyroom meeting, Mr O’Brien sought to hit the reset button for the party, which has been criticised for drifting too far to the right and running a negative scare campaign concentrating on crime.

    Who FFS? Who criticised them for drifting too far to the right? If they were any further left they’d be the Greens.

    Upper House MP Mary Wooldridge ( new Dep Leader)— one of just seven female parliamentarians in the party — said it must stop a lurch to the right of politics.

    Idiot.

    Ms Wooldridge urged greater efforts to recruit more women to the party and did not rule out supporting quotas.

    Fucking idiot.

    Mr O’Brien defended the party’s record on climate change, saying it had a history of investing in renewables.

    Fucking stupid idiot. He should hang her head in shame not brag about it.

    “A majority of scientists are telling us that climate change is happening and the majority say humans are contributing to it, so let’s not have an argument over whether it’s happening or not, let’s have a contest of good ideas of how we can best address it,” he said.

    Well that’s bullshit about the scientists but let’s argue about that. Let’s start with this: By precisely how much will Victoria’s climate change policies change the weather and how much will they cost. A cost / benefit analysis would be a “good idea” wouldn’t you say?

    I shouldn’t complain. These dickheads are ensuring the end of the SFL Party.

  72. cohenite

    Makka

    #2880148, posted on December 6, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    New Vic Lib leadership

    Some choice comments;

    They are fucking insane.

  73. .

    In other words, Rae’s luck might be down but his shaggy dog stories still have strong cache in his own opinion.

  74. C.L.

    Just posted at Quadrant: The Wilson Trials.

    In May, at that same journal, Peter Wales brilliantly (and – we now know – correctly) pointed out that the Wilson conviction was utter rubbish, destined to be flushed around the s-bend on appeal.

  75. Black Ball

    Correct analysis jupes. Whoever is directing Liberal Party wannabes to sprout anything other than opposition to climate change, immigration and bigger government need to be fired. And/or tarred and feathered.

  76. H B Bear

    Graegoogs and Ray Hadley. Two of Australia’s greatest legal minds join forces. Hadley is a great loss to the Australian taxi driving community.

  77. Siltstone

    Under the 1970’s legislation that enabled the Ranger mine, production has to cease in circa 2021 and the site has to be rehabilitated by around 2026. Royalties to aboriginals cease when production ceases. One of the costly things about rehabilitation at Ranger is that tailings have to be returned to the pits. Jabiru will probably soldier on, but with a lot less activity (like Gove).

  78. Black Ball

    https://youtu.be/pGtCiYndXuQ
    Further analysis from John Howard. I like the tenor of his discussion however. Totti Goldsmith was a hornbag in the day.

  79. Cpt Seahawks

    Kakadu “underwater” in less than a century, report finds
    CSIRO modelling finds the World Heritage site faces a “diabolical” future. Jeff Glorfeld reports.

    Why do anything, it’s doomed apparently. ERA need just show them this type of article. (I can’t link as I am apparently useless).

  80. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mark McGowan promises WA will post ‘substantial surplus’ a year earlier than predicted
    Nick ButterlyPerthNow
    December 6, 2018 1:19PM
    Topics
    Economy
    WA News
    State Politics

    Premier Mark McGowan has promised WA will post a “substantial surplus” a year earlier than predicted as he boasted that his economic restraints had put the state back in the black.

    In a set piece speech to a the CEDA business forum, the premier said his government would post a surplus in the “hundreds of millions of dollars” in 2019-20, a year earlier than predicted.

    “And we will not be just squeaking over the line either,” he said.

    The government had previously predicted a surplus of $1.3 billion in 2020-2021.

    The government has also announced more funds for low income housing through its Keystart loan scheme, expanding its loan book by $420 million.

    Mr McGowan said housing prices around the nation were in decline.

    The premier said the turnaround in the State’s finances had been helped by the deal winning WA more GST funds.

  81. Rae

    … the NSW judge whose sentences have been most often increased on appeal.

    This phrasing aroused my suspicion because it sounds borrowed.
    A quick Google confirms it was lifted word for word from legal expert Ray Hadley.

    No, it was not. Maybe Hadley lifted it from me. Lol.

  82. twostix

    Addressing the media following the partyroom meeting, Mr O’Brien sought to hit the reset button for the party, which has been criticised for drifting too far to the right and running a negative scare campaign concentrating on crime.

    If I want labor, I vote labor.

    I don’t vote for petite bourgeois spastics pretending to be labor.

  83. Rae

    “cachet”, Dot. With a “t”.

  84. H B Bear

    “knob”, Graegooglery. With a “k”.

  85. John Constantine

    This was the bit about the viclibs that made me spew today.

    The touted golden boy up and coming leader.

    “Mr Pesutto did not rule out a comeback to politics when asked if it was possible there may be a resignation in the Upper House, which could allow him to return without a by-election.

    Conceding defeat to Labor’s John Kennedy yesterday, Mr Pesutto also called on the party to recruit more women and culturally diverse candidates and to do more to address climate change.

    He cited his 17-year-old daughter, who went to Melbourne’s climate change protest on Friday, as an example of the kind of voter the party should be attracting.”

    Real Fear, they live with anxiety and despair and shame and dark depression, but have never felt Real Fear.

  86. Rae

    C.L., I lifted this from your linked Ray Hadley article:

    “The sooner Judge Ellis retires from the bench, the better off the judiciary NSW will be.”

    It’s a perfectly valid statement.

  87. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bird update

    Nice little 10 second video!
    Then YouTube added a bunch of suggestions didn’t it…
    An hour and 10 minutes later I’ve resurfaced.

    1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed

    An archaeologist who knows his evidence very well, and doesn’t chase simple linear answers.
    Well worth watching if you like history.

  88. JC

    It’s the first time in a decade since I’ve seen the RBA so animated. Don’t think this was by accident. It was carefully orchestrated signaling.

    Reserve Bank paves way for further cuts in official interest rates

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/economics/reserve-bank-paves-way-for-further-cuts-in-official-interest-rates/news-story/de78ea629f6efc63cc17564bca562f2e

  89. Harlequin Decline

    degrees

    Muzzlehatch
    #2880109, posted on December 6, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    This also may/may not help -when you are looking at the south celestial pole you are looking in the direction where the earth’s spin axis intersects an imaginary sphere at an infinite distance. To all intents and purposes the stars are so far away that they lie fixed on this imaginary sphere. Hence from the point of view of an observer in Australia ,as the earth rotates about its axis, west to east, the stars rise in the east and set in the west unless the stars are closer to the south celestial pole than the latitude of the observer in which case the stars are always above the horizon.

    Now move the observer north to the equator and it will be able to view all the stars in the southern hemisphere and the northern hemisphere save the 2 poles. As the observer moves further north to latitude X it can’t see any stars that are closer to the south celestial pole than X but it can see stars that are further away from the pole than X. As the Southern Cross is around 25 degrees from the pole it will be visible at latitudes up to around 25 degrees north.

    Now the spin access precesses over time so it moves relative to this imaginary sphere and hence the stars appear to move relative to their previous ‘fixed’ positions.

    There are other movements-the proper motion of the stars, earth’s nutation and wobble but ignore those for the moment.

  90. John Constantine

    If we get rid of cash fast enough, they can even try negative interest rates when we are all electric.

    Negative interest rates and mass millions of imported consumption machines are Our Strength.

  91. JC

    I know some people here consider Trump’s wife to be perfection in every facet of her being. Okay, let’s get this out of the way, she’s quite attractive and all that. But boy she looks like a miserable East European cow. I don’t think I’ve ever seen her smile or appear to be happy.

    It hit me while watching the Bush funeral that she has the same freaking miserable expression on her. Trump should tell her to shape up or ship out of the house.

  92. .

    “The sooner Judge Ellis retires from the bench, the better off the judiciary NSW will be.”

    Grigory never complained about Judge Ellis until he refused to be a good German and go along with the proxy lawfare war against political and social conservatives that has been waged since Abbott became Opposition Leader.

    Grigory also never complained about Pat O Shane.

  93. H B Bear

    It’s the first time in a decade since I’ve seen the RBA so animated. Don’t think this was by accident. It was carefully orchestrated signaling.

    I’d say they are sh1tting themselves. The cash rate is still at GFC levels, gross debt is $600bn higher than the last time the world economy hit the fan and the Peanut Head Liars government is still six months away.

  94. DrBeauGan

    1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed

    An archaeologist who knows his evidence very well, and doesn’t chase simple linear answers.
    Well worth watching if you like history.

    Yes, it’s a good talk, BoN. I saw it posted here yonks ago. Forget who put it up, but warmly recommended.

  95. JC

    The RBA gov is a complete dick. He/They still defend the gross fiscal spending during the GFC by Rudd and Shane Wand. It’s not their fucking purview to judging fiscal spending. Their job is monetary policy.

    The current gov is a real piece of work too. He went to UNSW which is a leftwing rathole and did his Phd under the Krudster. God fucking help us.

  96. Muzzlehatch:

    I guessed the shift would have been of the order of 5 degrees over 2500 years out of a half cycle of 13000 years with a tilt of 25 odd degrees.

    Or maybe, they stood on the heads of specially trained giraffes?

  97. Old School Conservative

    But boy she looks like a miserable East European cow. I don’t think I’ve ever seen her smile or appear to be happy.

    Not so.

  98. Crossie:

    This is how the Iron Curtain and the Soviet Union fell, all of a sudden and nobody saw it coming. Granted, it is hard to predict what will be the breaking point and carbon tax in France didn’t seem to be a big deal seeing as how smug they were about their environmentalism.

    Yep. The pressure cooker looks fine right up to the second the extra weight gets put on, and the structural integrity of the vessel is exceeded.

  99. max

    Didn’t the magistrate who found Wilson guilty go to town on him ? Said he was a dissembling, prevaricating dodger of questions who couldn’t be trusted or believed. It was poisonous.

    A pity you can’t sue magistrates. I’ll just bet he finds online bullies lamentable.

  100. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yes, it’s a good talk, BoN. I saw it posted here yonks ago.

    Sorry Dr B, I missed it then.
    The only thing missing is the possibility of other volcanoes going off, like Methana (near Athens) or Lipari, which would’ve added a “stuff this, let’s get out of here” impetus that drought and famine alone might not’ve done. The data we have on those two don’t go back that far, but they and some others have erupted in a similar timeframe.

  101. JC

    He’s such a troll.

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
    Dec 4

    I am glad that my friend @EmmanuelMacron and the protestors in Paris have agreed with the conclusion I reached two years ago. The Paris Agreement is fatally flawed because it raises the price of energy for responsible countries while whitewashing some of the worst polluters….

  102. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #2880192, posted on December 6, 2018 at 10:47 pm

    1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed

    An archaeologist who knows his evidence very well, and doesn’t chase simple linear answers.
    Well worth watching if you like history.

    Yes, it’s a good talk, BoN. I saw it posted here yonks ago. Forget who put it up, but warmly recommended.

    Excellent.

  103. John Constantine

    Gross fed debt plus State debt plus council debt plus nbn debt plus the ndis kicking in plus the stress packed cities choking with the need for infrastructure.

    With the Tyrant of all the chicoms spending a trillion on belt and road to access resources from central Asia and Africa to drive Australian resource prices down through competition.

    Lucky our politicals can now legally tap all communications while they cower behind bollards and send their paramilitary Death squads out to quell unrest.

  104. John Constantine

    Be a lot of Australian politicals weeping in terror because they have lost their dual citizenship right to flee the sinking ship.

  105. DrBeauGan

    The only thing missing is the possibility of other volcanoes going off, like Methana (near Athens) or Lipari, which would’ve added a “stuff this, let’s get out of here” impetus that drought and famine alone might not’ve done. The data we have on those two don’t go back that far, but they and some others have erupted in a similar timeframe.

    Getting at the truth of something that happened three thousand years ago is a huge job, but a fascinating one. I wish I could persuade one in ten of the useless folk who can’t think of anything to do with their dreary lives to become at least assistants to archaeologists. Adding small particles to human knowledge is a noble way to spend a life. It harms nobody and benefits the future.

    But they’d rather do drugs.

  106. Oh come on

    Don’t feed it, folks. Seriously. It says whatever it thinks will get a response. It’ll even claim it’s cancer-ridden – that’s how depraved it is.

    Just ignore.

  107. Infidel Tiger

    What the hell are those lunatics at the RBA up to?

  108. Oh come on

    I am glad that my friend @EmmanuelMacron and the protestors in Paris have agreed with the conclusion I reached two years ago. The Paris Agreement is fatally flawed because it raises the price of energy for responsible countries while whitewashing some of the worst polluters….

    This is great. Not only is it true; the entertainment value is second to none.

  109. Oh come on

    The enemy of my enemy is not my friend:

    “The French don’t want crumbs, they want the whole baguette,” Benjamin Cauchy, one of the [yellow vest] movement’s organisers, told AFP, although he welcomed what he called “a first step” towards a “redistribution of wealth in France”.

  110. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #2880207, posted on December 6, 2018 at 11:55 pm

    What the hell are those lunatics at the RBA up to?

    Signaling a floor. It’s actually a very important policy signal. They’re telling markets that if things really get tight and asset and credit markets appear to be imploding, the RBA will be there to ensure that won’t happen through QE.

    Asset markets kept on falling during the GFC because there appeared to be no bottom and the central banks didn’t seem to understand the speed or the depth of the fall.

    Ironically, you ensure you won’t have to use QE if it is seen and markets really believe QE will be used as a policy instrument if required.

    The RBA is the best CB in the world at the moment.

  111. JC

    Rones must be out cold as there’s been no “from the Oz’s”, nor “a bit of spacechooking” all evening. Drink ruins you.

  112. mh

    The RBA have had the cash rate at emergency lows for 10 years.

    Does that sound good to anyone? Is that an indicator of a healthy economy?

  113. JC

    This will shock most people here, so make sure you seated.

    This article

    The ………. travels across the nation the late Hugo Chávez dreamed of transforming, to understand its collapse

    People confront riot police during a protest in Caracas against the shortage of food.

    The latrines at Simón Bolívar international airport in Caracas overflow with urine; the taps are bone dry. In the departures hall, weeping passengers prepare for exile, unsure when they will return.

    At customs, a sticker on one x-ray machine warns: “Here you don’t speak badly about Chávez!”

    But even before stepping outside the terminal it is obvious his Bolivarian revolution, like the airport’s immobile escalators, has ground to a halt.
    A roadside graveyard of abandoned buses in Venezuela’s Portuguesa state

    A roadside graveyard of abandoned buses in Venezuela’s Portuguesa state. Photograph: Tom

    On 6 December 1998, Hugo Chávez proclaimed a new dawn of social justice and people power. “Venezuela’s resurrection is under way and nothing and nobody can stop it,” the leftwing populist told a sea of euphoric supporters after his landslide election victory.

    Two decades on, those dreams are in tatters.

    The comandante is dead and his revolution in intensive care as economic, political and social chaos engulf what was once one of Latin America’s most prosperous societies. Almost 10% of Venezuela’s 31 million-strong population have fled overseas; of those who remain, nearly 90% live in poverty.

    Was found in the Guardian

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/06/on-the-road-venezuela-20-years-after-hugo-chavez-rise

  114. JC

    mh
    #2880212, posted on December 7, 2018 at 12:28 am

    The RBA have had the cash rate at emergency lows for 10 years.

    Does that sound good to anyone? Is that an indicator of a healthy economy?

    If it’s not at zero, then things may be okay. If inflation is very low rates will be too. But, you’re not looking at the whole picture. The rate at which banks are guided to fund their balance sheet is where even a large corporation can borrow.

    I haven’t looked, but I thought home loans didn’t get much below 4.5%, so credit isn’t really cheap in Oz. Also, it’s much harder to get a loan.

  115. Infidel Tiger

    Lot of smart people predicting the world economy is about to go off a cliff at warp speed.

    Not good!

  116. JC

    Yea and lots of smart are usually wrong. No one can predict crashes. There appears to be a slowdown of sorts and maybe, one reason is the the fucking Fed, chaired by the very person Agent orange installed in the job, is a fucking moron and if he doesn’t signal a peak in tightening it could be problematic. Long term bond rates have now inverted, which means longer rates are lower short term ones. This can at times indicate a slowdown or even recession.

    I think it may be time to begin to think about setting up bets against this consensus. Trump may find a solution with China too in the not so distant future and the Fed could ease up a little.

  117. Infidel Tiger

    Should have kept Yellen

  118. JC

    No, just no.

    A Philadelphia man’s freedom from the Westmoreland County Prison was short-lived.

    Moments after Thomas Lee Williams, 36, was released from the Hempfield jail at about 6:15 p.m. Tuesday, police said, he attacked a West Leechburg woman in the parking lot, took her sport utility vehicle and fled with her 1-year-old grandson in the back seat.

    Williams crashed two miles away in Youngwood about 15 minutes later, ran into a wooded area and was apprehended, according to county Park Police Chief Kirk Nolan.

    Williams was back behind bars Wednesday on $250,000 bail.

  119. mh

    We should keep in mind that at the same time that the RBA dropped rates to emergency lows in late 2008, Kevin Rudd introduced PQE – population quantitative easing – which is also still in place 10 years later.

  120. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #2880219, posted on December 7, 2018 at 12:48 am

    Should have kept Yellen

    Grandma was the best fed chair I’ve seen. The old gal was masterful and better than anyone in the modern era. Powell is a fucking lawyer. Huge mistake.

    Mueller may not be the person who takes down the fat fuck. It could end up being Powell.

  121. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Spot of spacechooking here for military type Cats – good account of the various sieges of Tobruk, in 1941 and 1942, in a book “Tobruk 1942.” by one David Mitchell Green. Good reading about how a seaport, held by the Australians in 1941, against the worst Rommel could throw against the place, was surrendered by the South African commander in 1942. Check it out.

  122. JC

    I have the TV running in the other room for some reason. Nicole Kidman’s in some movie. Her whiny put on little voice is so freaking irritating. Can’t stand her.

  123. Fisk

    The Fed has an unwritten mandate to bring down GOP administrations. They pulled the same trick on Reagan and Bush II. Time to audit the Fed!

  124. JC

    Fisk

    Trump appointed the twerp, Powell. It’s Trump’s fucking fault.

    I’ve always maintained the Right has a very soft underbelly with monetary policy. They seem to think high rates are good for some strange reason. They should have listened to uncle Milt about rates and monetary policy. Inappropriate monetary policy was responsible for FDR, Clinton and the Kenyan. If Trump isn’t careful it will also be responsible for Kamala Harris.

  125. None

    JC

    #2880188, posted on December 6, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    you have to remember JC that the media deliberately frames her as a scowling middle European cow by publishing unflattering photos of her whereas everybody who’s met her says that she has a very bubbly and sweet personality and if you watch some of the vids that are released by the white house where she visits hospitals or vusits kids she comes across as very warm and personable. In fact I think she is Trump’s best weapon. Having said that the flotus is not an elected position even though the Americans have a tradition of a first lady. (We don’t but I notice that the left is here wanted to adopt the term for Gillard Fatso partner because you know Obama was in the house). The trump’s may be all sorts of weird even by East Coast standards but ease up on Melania less we start passing judgement on your own wife.

  126. Fisky

    I’ve always maintained the Right has a very soft underbelly with monetary policy. They seem to think high rates are good for some strange reason. They should have listened to uncle Milt about rates and monetary policy. Inappropriate monetary policy was responsible for FDR, Clinton and the Kenyan. If Trump isn’t careful it will also be responsible for Kamala Harris.

    Maybe it’s better to be tight on the fiscal side to be looser on the monetary right?

  127. C.L.

    I have the TV running in the other room for some reason. Nicole Kidman’s in some movie. Her whiny put on little voice is so freaking irritating. Can’t stand her.

    Only thing worse than Nicole Kidman is Nicole Kidman with her wife, Keith Urban.

  128. C.L.

    The 900 year old cathedral of St Stephen in Vienna was desecrated yesterday … in the presence of, and with the explicit permission of, the bishop whose seat it is: Christoph Cardinal Schönborn, supposedly archbishop of the city.

    A scene from the sanctuary during a gay rock opera performed there to mark World AIDS Day.

    Last year: Schönborn celebrates homosexual prayer service with blasphemous transvestite.

  129. DrBeauGan

    A scene from the sanctuary during a gay rock opera performed there to mark World AIDS Day.

    Complete with a skull and crossbones on his belt and one crucifix around his neck upsidedown.

    All to celebrate those who died as a consequence of their foul, perverted practices.

    Diversity, inclusiveness. What a load of depraved drivel. Some of those diverse people have predilections which are at the very least unhygienic and a desire to spread their foul habits. I have no wish to include them.

    Quite the contrary. We should not be overly compassionate to the depraved.

  130. Zyconoclast

    A scene from the sanctuary during a gay rock opera performed there to mark World AIDS Day.

    Last year: Schönborn celebrates homosexual prayer service with blasphemous transvestite.

    Got to love those Catholics.
    The Cardinal and his friends were probably doing a swap of some nasty pics/videos during a private drinking session at the after party.

  131. DrBeauGan

    The Cardinal and his friends were probably doing a swap of some nasty pics/videos during a private drinking session at the after party.

    You can see why devout Muslims despise Christians.

  132. Crossie

    DrBeauGan
    #2880240, posted on December 7, 2018 at 3:00 am
    The Cardinal and his friends were probably doing a swap of some nasty pics/videos during a private drinking session at the after party.

    You can see why devout Muslims despise Christians.

    Why would that be? Muslims don’t have anything against homosexuality, in fact Afghan society is based on it.

  133. Mark A

    Why would that be? Muslims don’t have anything against homosexuality, in fact Afghan society is based on it.

    As is Pakistan’s.

  134. None

    You all need to thank Cory Bernardi. These micro parties and fakers like Phelps who think they are dictators really need some slapping down.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/lost-in-stagnation-behind-the-refugee-bill-that-plunged-the-parliament-into-chaos-20181206-p50koo.html

  135. None

    Pakistan is the child p**n capital of the world.

  136. bespoke

    JC
    #2880188, posted on December 6, 2018 at 10:41 pm
    I know some people here consider Trump’s wife to be perfection in every facet of her being. Okay, let’s get this out of the way, she’s quite attractive and all that. But boy she looks like a miserable East European cow. I don’t think I’ve ever seen her smile or appear to be happy.
    It hit me while watching the Bush funeral that she has the same freaking miserable expression on her. Trump should tell her to shape up or ship out of the house.

    Who cares! You need to go outside and do something to get the testosterone back up. Or go to the pub 🙂

  137. Herodotus

    Mark Kenny appointment to ANU.
    It has become a semi-retirement home for assorted leftists.

  138. Baldrick

    Cheers Tom. Tina Toon wins today on the SJW Fun Police.

  139. Mother Lode

    HBB,

    The Iowahawk quote is:

    1. Identify a respected institution.
    2. kill it.
    3. gut it.
    4. wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect.

  140. John Constantine

    Concrete pours.

    Been to trades hall piss-ups where the booze was donated by crony criminal developers, as paying bribes meant concrete pours didn’t get sabotaged halfway through.

    Cost built into the next contact, easily done when no non bribe payers can’t pour concrete.

    The tyrant of all the chicoms is the new Norm Gallagher, where he controls the just in time supply chain the economy runs on.

    Any interruptions to time critical inputs and that industry is sabotaged like an interrupted concrete pour.

  141. John Comnenus

    The Phelps, ALP, Greens plan to legislate to force sick children to come to Australia if any two doctors think that they should be treated in Australia is effectively a call to provide free healthcare to any child in the world who can get to Australian waters.

    What would you do if you were poor, lived in Cambodia and had a child with a range of complex health conditions where you could never afford or get healthcare for your child? If you were a people smuggler how would you sell your product to our hypothetical person? If you were a people smuggler where would you advertise or tout for business?

    You would hang around third world hospitals and wait for distraught parents with sick children who are unable to get treatment. You would tell them that for a few thousand dollars you will get them to Australian waters where they will be provided free first world healthcare for their child. And the people smugglers would be inundated. What parent who could get the money, wouldn’t get the money to get healthcare for their sick child?

    The Phelps, ALP, Greens policy will effectively make Australia the paediatric facility for everyone in the region. People who have paid their Medicare levy all their working lives will be forced to wait longer for treatment as the hospital system is overwhelmed. We can barely afford to provide universal healthcare to Australians. Now we are going to add a never ending supply of children with complex and expensive health needs to the patient load.

    And what kinds of illnesses could we reasonably expect to come to our shores? No doubt some of the most dangerous and or infectious diseases around. And the children would come in boatloads of unprotected people potentially infecting others on their journey to get free Australian healthcare.

    This policy will make people smugglers heroes that save dying children. The people smugglers have the unending support and gratitude of parents, grandparents, families and friends of the ill children treated and cured in Australia. They grateful families and friends would refer more people to the people smugglers every time they heard of a sick child. Photos would be texted from Australian hospitals all around the world with tales of life saving child care encouraging more people to come. In fact some impoverished governments and health systems would probably tell parents to use people smugglers as their only hope of getting proper healthcare for their child.

    This is the most dangerous policy that has been proposed for some time. It would ruin our health system, endanger people’s lives, overwhelm our border protection agencies and cost a fortune.

  142. John Constantine

    Refugee resettlement hub.

    Sky news preaching that closing rural colleges can have refugees dumped in them, so desertified rural Australia can have the economic stimulus of masses of the world’s poorest people, serviced by Stalinism and funded by council sin taxes on farmland.

  143. 132andBush

    TFB today in parts of Vic including where I am in the Wimmera.
    Good to see some great crops for at least some farmers, particularly south and west of Horsham.
    Big pay days with 5-6t/ha at current prices.
    Won’t be making up the contracting shortfall from NSW but it’s something.

  144. Mother Lode

    Phelps is, I expect, a very middling intellect.

    As a GP she will have memorised lots of Latin names for body parts that almost none of her clients can pick up on, and been trained to:

    1) Listen to somnolent litany of aches and pains from patient.
    2) Use ear thingy on their chest and feign intense concentration
    3) Put the armband thingy that pumps up with air on their upper arm and turn on. Remember to take off after
    4) Write Amoxycillin on pad, tear off page, give copy to patient
    5) Check Medicare payment is processed
    6) If patient comes back, refer them to a proper doctor

    Some lefties are indeed doctrinaire, but many are merely attracted to the special version that requires only feelings, not a commitment to a theory.

    For them, refugees are grub boy little brown children with a single tear coursing down their cheek. Global Warming is a thick suffocating black cloud. Capitalism is role-poly men in morning suits, sitting atop mountains of gold coins in their subterranean horde rooms, laughing with malignant glee at the ease and brazenness with which they are able to fleece ordinary people.

    These images elicit an immediate and predictable emotional response.

    The climate urchins the other day think that way, it is a way of internalising left-wing pieties without contending with intellect.

    Their teachers, by and large, think the same.

    These are the lefties that get angriest in argument and desperately try to drag discussion to emotional grounds again.

  145. Mother Lode

    Refugees are ‘grubby little brown children’, not ‘grub boy’.

  146. Mater

    The Phelps, ALP, Greens plan to legislate to force sick children to come to Australia if any two doctors think that they should be treated in Australia is effectively a call to provide free healthcare to any child in the world who can get to Australian waters.

    Correct. Just another thin edge of a wedge, cloaked in compassion.

    When it comes to insidious policy, compassion is like KY. Slather enough of it on said policy and it can be made to fit, regardless of how inappropriate and damaging it may be.

  147. notafan

    53 year old retired Venezuelan teacher.

    Did Chavez the Generous make the official retirement age 50?

    Didn’t all those people ever wonder how it would all be paid for?

    Venezuela was falling apart even when oil prices were high.

    You have to work.

  148. The Phelps, ALP, Greens plan to legislate to force sick children to come to Australia if any two doctors think that they should be treated in Australia is effectively a call to provide free healthcare to any child in the world who can get to Australian waters.

    I’ll wait with bated breath for Phelps to campaign so rural kids and communities can get access to a GP without driving hours.
    She could fix this with regionally tied provider numbers like the UK, but that would involve dragging the graduates away from their taxpayer provided workplace of choice.
    Phelps can see for miles beyond her own backyard.

  149. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    and it’s a chimpout in victoriastan

  150. John Comnenus

    Luckily there is no shortage of paediatric specialists and services in places like Canberra

    Phelps is a dangerous virtue signalling idiot whose idiocy is especially attractive to the ALP, Greens and the guilty rich everywhere.

  151. I’m driving my daughter 150km to get to an ENT specialist toady, John Com.
    We think surgery is on the cards and no doubt private health insurance will speed up the process.
    Lots of people I know who are reasonably well paid don’t have private insurance.
    I have a feeling that the Canberra cronies are so used to all facilities being on tap and free that they fail to attract specialists.

  152. Mater

    Luckily there is no shortage of paediatric specialists and services in places like Canberra

    I think Majura Army Camp would make a highly suitable refugee centre. It would allow the compassionate virtue signallers a magnificent opportunity to view their altruistic work, first hand, and to share their privileged medical services with the world.
    It goes without saying that day release into the community would be an essential element of their assimilation into Australian society.

  153. calli

    The Phelps, ALP, Greens plan to legislate to force sick children to come to Australia if any two doctors think that they should be treated in Australia is effectively a call to provide free healthcare to any child in the world who can get to Australian waters.

    Presumably the locals on Nauru don’t matter, especially their sick children. Why aren’t they airlifted to Oz for treatment too?

  154. feelthebern

    LOL.
    It was HSBC who dobbed in Huawei.
    The bank that had cartel only tellers at their banks in Mexico.

  155. calli

    Gez, charity begins at home.

    These preposterous posturers* couldn’t care less about rural kiddies. They don’t make headlines or sob footage for Parliament.

    * luvs youse, Rabz. 🙂

  156. notafan

    Dr BG really?

    Gay cabals aside muslims despise Christianity because it defies them.

    As for institutionised depravity in islam heaven is a place of neverending sexual activity but only for the men of this earth, boys being part of the Jannah package. In life, they themselves take little girls in marriage, which itself is purely a contract for sex, plough that field! indeed the Shia allow for five minutes marriage, sex with animals is halal, sex slaves are a right and little boys are fair game in this life too.

    1400 years of seeking to overthrow Christianity isn’t because of some unfit for office Austrian cardinal in 2018, or any generalised view of Christians as sexually depraved.

    In fact sanctioning sexual depravity in islam is one of its major marketing tools, most likely a necessity when the supply of marriageable females for beta males is restricted by polygamy but mostly a pure reflection of mohammed’s personal desires and preferences.

    (That red haired Canadia muslim convert now ex Muslim again does a good series on showing how mohammed had new revelations based on his sexual desires)

    Islam yjust provide a facade in officially declaring those men who take a submissive role are sinners, no doubt a pet hate of Mo’s.

    And women outside marriage cannot even look at a man but they don’t really count for much, mohammed didn’t design heaven for the hijabi, I think they get to wander around reading from the Quran while the men play with their spirit sex dolls.

    A laughably man made religion, for men.

    But you know all that.
    But if you want to praise Islam for its despisation of Christianity go right ahead.

  157. John Comnenus

    Good luck Gez, hope all is well for your daughter.

  158. OldOzzie

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2880183, posted on December 6, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed

    An archaeologist who knows his evidence very well, and doesn’t chase simple linear answers.
    Well worth watching if you like history.

    BON

    thanks for that – will watch Video, in the meantime have purchased the Book from Book Depository AUD$19.98 and delivery before Xmas

    OldOzzie

  159. notafan

    Ms Dunphy is waiting for a free service.

    No 12 month wait for ent if you are going private in Melbourne.

    It’s as soon as the specialist can book a bed.

    I took my son to a public country hospital for an ent procedure because the hospital offered no out of pocket for private patients.

    Six weeks after seeing the specialist.

    We’ve had the people who should but not bothering with private health insurance discussion before.

    Sinclair nailed it, they make the poor wait.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    Phelps is, I expect, a very middling intellect.

    When I was teaching chemistry to medical students at university I found they were indeed very intelligent. But they were also very inflexible. I suspect it is a result of the infallibility tradition that is inculcated into them from day one.

    In R&D I observed Chinese science people to be rather similar. Again the authoritarian climate in which they were trained probably caused that.

    So I think Phelps has a problem with inflexibility and an inability to think beyond the canonical, which for her is the lefty consensus.

  161. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-07/study-shows-impact-wind-solar-gas-power-on-electricity-prices/10590876

    Their abc preach from their billion dollar bully pulpit that Wind power, because it is free, is driving down south australian energy prices.

    Once south australia finishes replacing gas power, says their abc, it can replace it with free wind power.

    In nearly 2019, the political campaign of their abc, with a billion dollars of punching power, still can simply ignore south australias energy disaster and indeed, simply lecture that there isn;t enough free wind being used

    Just like communism was never done properly and the liberals must go left to chase votes.

  162. Nob

    Venezuela was falling apart even when oil prices were high..

    Yes, oilfield professionals were leaving in droves ever since Chavez got in.

    Also, change of topic, there’s Chile.
    I worked with a few Chileans in the 70s and 80s in Australia, and more in Europe, where a lot went to work on the rigs and always assumed they’d been fleeing the brutal Pinochet dictatorship.

    Over time, I found out that most had in fact fled the economic disaster caused by Allende, who was still being painted as a saint in Australia.

  163. Zyconoclast

    Presumably the locals on Nauru don’t matter, especially their sick children. Why aren’t they airlifted to Oz for treatment too?

    I’m sure that is already planned for as part of the drowning islands, climate change punishment.

  164. John Comnenus

    I wonder when the first boatload of Nauruan is intercepted with sick kids on board. Take a sea voyage to Australia, get kicked up and taken home to Nauru, get two doctors to say your kid needs Australian healthcare and bingo the kid is moved to Australia for care. Simple!

  165. Nob

    Certain private Catholic boarding schools in Australia were very popular with Nauruans back in the 70s.

    They were pretty cashed up in those days.

  166. cohenite

    Mother Lode

    #2880274, posted on December 7, 2018 at 7:17 am

    Phelps is, I expect, a very middling intellect.

    Good analysis. Most doctors are; it is a memory degree with, when the training finishes, an also inflexible application of the knowledge.

    Engineers, by and large are the real geniuses but they are becoming feminised as well.

  167. struth

    Good Moaning

    This doctors bill for refugees is completely undemocratic.
    We don’t get to decide, but activist doctors like Phelps get to decide and over ride the elected!

    I may be wrong, but I see it this way.

    The Liberal party have only stalled this until after Christmas
    It’s coming and they won’t be able to stop it.
    The boats are already selling tickets.
    Let’s face it, for our lefties and especially the greens, they only have until 2030 to bring on the complete destruction of the west, and Gutterres is starting to get concerned.

  168. stackja

    Lawyer X on $2.9m payout: ‘There must be some very serious concern high up’
    Anthony Dowsley and Patrick Carlyon, Herald Sun
    December 6, 2018 9:25pm
    Subscriber only

    Lawyer X won a $2.9 million ­taxpayer-funded payout from Victoria Police because senior officers were “very worried” that she would reveal how they had used her.

    The secret payout deal Lawyer X said she negotiated in 2010 also included an agreement from then deputy commissioner Simon Overland not to force her to be a witness in any future prosecution.

    Lawyer X would subsequently be withdrawn as a witness in the prosecution of former officer Paul Dale, who had been charged with lying to the Australian Crime Commission.

    In an extraordinary interview with the Herald Sun in April 2014 — which the paper has been legally banned from publishing until now — the high-profile gangland barrister was asked how she was able to negotiate the lucrative payout.

    “There must be some very serious concern high up … there must be some people that are very worried,” she said.

    Asked if Mr Overland had signed off on the deal promising that she would never be called in a criminal trial, Lawyer X said: “Well, I’m not going to reveal the confidential content of the settlement but I wouldn’t argue with that proposition.”

    Lawyer X also complained then that she was being harassed by police not to talk about the scandal, saying: “I don’t want anything to do with police … as of a couple of years ago, to be honest.”

    Asked whether she would publicly reveal “how police treated” her “at the top echelon”, she said: “I would have a lot to say and I am talking to my lawyers at the ­moment about when the right time is to do that and in which forum.

    “I’ve got a daughter … and they (children) take priority. You cannot control things you cannot control.”

  169. struth

    Phelps is an insulated, perverted fuckwit.
    Being a doctor is being educated in a particular field.

    It is not a sign of true intelligence or intellect.
    Especially true when I look at some of the knobs I have visited.

    Doctors unfortunately quite often, have the very wrong view that many who have attended university have.

    Studying one subject at an institution makes them experts on all things.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    Do I have to mention economists?

  170. Top Ender

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    While I fully agree with this I am disappointed.

    I am disappointed because old people must be represented.

    I am disappointed because young people must be represented.

    I am disappointed because short people must be represented. Playing Randy Newman’s “Short People” does NOT count.

    I am disappointed because very LARGE people must be represented.

    If we’re going to have true diversity then ALL groups must be playing on stage.

    You know it makes sense.

  171. notafan

    What about we tone deaf can’t sing a note or play an instrument to save ourselves people?

    Where are our performance rights?

  172. stackja

    Lawyer X: How the wrong lawyer got blamed for tipping off Tony Mokbel
    Anthony Dowsley, Patrick Carlyon, Herald Sun
    December 7, 2018 7:00am
    Subscriber only

    The tale of Mokbel’s capture in Athens is well documented.

    Police relied upon an informer, known as 3030, from within Mokbel’s syndicate called The Company, for phone bugs that pinpointed his whereabouts. Here was a fable in hard yakka, hunches and punchlines.

    “Brilliant work,” an impressed Mokbel told the police as he was escorted from a Greek restaurant.

    What’s fuzzier are the identities of those who helped in Mokbel’s escape. Dawn raids produced arrests in 2008 — among them a couple believed to have housed him for a couple of nights in central Victoria in what they described as coerced hospitality. The pensioners, charged with perverting the course of justice, were numbers nine and 10 in the hunt to prosecute those who had helped Mokbel.

    Detective Sergeant Jim Coghlan described the arrests as “the last piece in the puzzle”. But were they?

    What seems strange is that no one was made accountable for alerting Mokbel to the murder charges that were to be brought against him, prompting his disappearance after a weekend walk at South Yarra’s Tan track.

    For Mokbel — who was about to be found guilty on cocaine importation charges — was tipped off. Police said so at the time. And Mokbel says so now.

    The odd thing is that the police version and Mokbel’s take do not gel. Strange, too, that police have never been seen to pursue the matter.

    At the time, lawyer Zarah Garde-Wilson was blamed.

    Australian Federal Police agent Jarrod Ragg named Garde-Wilson in a statement to the Supreme Court.

    Garde-Wilson, who had been Mokbel’s lawyer, had also been the partner of slain killer Lewis Caine.

    Her friendships and clients blurred in convenient conflation for authorities. Her name appeared in court files as both a representative and defendant.

    She had been charged with contempt after refusing to testify against Caine’s killers. She said she feared for her life, and she resented police who had refused her witness protection.

  173. calli

    They were pretty cashed up in those days.

    Bird poop economy.

  174. calli

    You’ll always have Interpretive Dance, nota.

  175. Anne

    Did you all see Laura Bush show Jeb! a piece of paper, that made his countenance fall, at the funeral?

    Well…

    Joe M @StormIsUponUs
    So far the best development of #TheStorm to date. While they were all together in one place, law enforcement was raiding their bunkers. Precursor to arrests. Observe the rats scurry. #PAIN

    It just keeps getting better. 😀

  176. stackja

    SA Environment Department employees anxious about creating list of former Labor staffers
    Adam Langenberg, Political reporter, The Advertiser
    December 6, 2018 9:30pm
    Subscriber only

    Senior public servants were uncomfortable with a request from Environment Minister David Speirs’ office to identify former Labor staffers in his department, freedom of information documents reveal.

    Text messages between Environment Department staff show they were surprised and “a bit anxious” about the request to compile a list of political staffers by Mr Speirs’ chief of staff Cullen Bailey.

    Mr Speirs had previously told Parliament he had sought the list to give former ministerial staff “the opportunity to come and work in my office” and had since hired them.

    But Opposition accountability spokesman Tom Koutsantonis said the texts were “unprecedented” and showed it caused “deep divisions” in Mr Speirs’ department.

  177. Top Ender

    The Phelps, ALP, Greens plan to legislate to force sick children to come to Australia…

    One of the most tragic parts is the business model of the people smuggler re transport. It goes like this:

    1) buy crappy fishing boat. Buy the cheapest one around. It will be the cheapest because it will have been worked to death in some Indonesian fishing village.

    2) the engine won’t work very well but as long as it does. If it doesn’t then pay the minimum to get it going for a voyage of 20-30 hours. After that it can seize or whatever.

    3) buy some very cheap lifebelts. Must be yellow or orange. This is because the clientele will be well-enough informed to demand them. If they are condemned or whatever no matter. Yellow and orange electrical tape works wonders.

    4) bribe two deckhands for the one-way trip. If the Aussies catch them before they flee the boat in the vessel’s tinnie as the RAN looms over the horizon, then the crew must be prepared for a few years in an Aussie jail. Good times but boring and no family.

    5) advertise madly. Take 50% deposits.

    6) bribe the local police not to shut you down when the Indon government reacts to Aussie government pressure.

    7) pick a date, bus everyone to the boat, collect other 50% on boarding.

    8) Rinse and repeat. After three years you’ve made so much money sell the business to a younger man. Retire.

  178. struth

    Diversity equals no white males.
    Diversity will then become no whites at all.
    Diversity will then become no males.
    Diversity will then be no straights.

    In the end diversity will mean those in charge of the event paid for with taxes, as our festivals are, will get to divvy up the largesse between themselves.

    Of course before that, while these dumb pricks are squabbling over victims of western oppression status, the mussies will have shoved all the dumb bints in black sacks and banned music altogether.

    And the festival is called off for using too much power.
    All government funded music festivals are left wing propaganda engagements hypocritically using heaps of coal to power their amps and lighting.
    I suggest all festivals become powered without using diesel generators or the grid, but just renewables.
    They can SMS the ticket holders once it’s windy enough to start.
    We should seriously make them live by their politics.
    I call for a ban on all fossil fuelled powered, tax payer funded, music festivals.
    Electric cars will only be allowed in the parking area.
    Multiculti festivals, art shows and even hippy farmers markets, the New Year’s eve fireworks, at galleries, and universities to be disallowed to use any energy that is not renewable.
    I’ll stop there, even though it’s an endless list.

  179. Top Ender

    Sorry. Forgot to add:

    9) When 10% of the boats sink en route laugh it off. Spread rumour they survived and are in New Zealand.

  180. Myrddin Seren

    Lawyer X: How the wrong lawyer got blamed for tipping off Tony Mokbel

    Underbelly producers to Channel Nine – ‘We’re putting the band back together !’

    The scripts are practically writing themselves.

  181. Tel

    So China arrests Liu Changming’s family and holds them hostage, even though they are all American citizens.

    American then arrests the CEO of Huawei, Sabrina Meng and the Chinese get all crank yanked over it.

    America doesn’t pay ransoms, but they do payback.

  182. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-07/brexit-preparedness-why-are-brits-stockpiling-food-medicine/10592332

    Remember when even at the Cat, people mocked preppers?.

    Get your gas barbecue and rainwater tank and bags of dried beans tucked away, somewhere they can’t be seen from the road.

    Comrades.

  183. Mother Lode

    Studying one subject at an institution makes them experts on all things.

    Robert Graves made an argument along the same lines, observing that increased specialisation was, in nature, more typical of insect colonies.

  184. struth

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    PM Struth’s response.
    We require all music festivals funded by taxpayers to be powered totally by wind or solar power before another cent of taxpayer money is considered.

  185. Leigh Lowe

    Top Ender

    #2880311, posted on December 7, 2018 at 8:54 am

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    Why not just give the audience kazoos and banjos and make the band watch them?

  186. struth

    My grandfather built his own house from scratch, which is still standing, was a coppersmith, professional fisherman, plumber, etc.
    There was nothing it seemed he couldn’t do.
    Fix nets, build boats, painting, building engines etc etc.
    The greatest most loving, family man, who always had time for his grandkids.
    I used to adore him and love to go out and use the tools to dig holes to put up fences, and learn.
    Toward the end he slowed and would stop every three minutes to roll a smoke……..
    Nanna could fillet the whiting he’d caught as fast as any professional, was a registered nurse, an insanely good cook, could make any clothes, darn socks, etc, etc,etc,and, the point being, insanely capable people.
    Karen Phelps is an urban doctor who dines at the “Y”.
    A social status totally undeserved.
    I know who would have had a better knowledge of the world.
    But they just had a basic , good education.
    My Nanna’s handwriting was beautiful.

  187. struth

    When I think back, he was also in the Navy during the war, supplying Tobruk, was a navy boxer, and had one of those tattoos on his forearm like bloody Pop-eye.
    God I miss them.
    And their generation of decency.
    So busy, all the time.
    Grandpa went to church on Sunday to have a snooze, much to Nanna”s consternation.
    You’d all have fond memories the same.
    Are we letting these people down?

  188. OldOzzie

    USGS Report Expands Permian’s Wolfcamp, Bone Spring Potential Bounty

    Anyone who follows the flow of U.S. oil and gas knows the Permian Basin’s Wolfcamp shale and Delaware Basin’s Bone Spring Formation are bountiful, but a new report from the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) shows the enormity of their potential resources: an estimated 46.3 billion barrels of oil plus 281 trillion cubic feet of gas and 20 billion barrels of NGL.

    That’s more than double the previous resource assessment for oil in the Wolfcamp.

    The USGS, which is part of the U.S. Department of Interior, deemed its review of resources in the Permian Basin province as the “largest continuous oil and gas resource ever assessed.” The assessment released Dec. 6 was more like Christmas for U.S. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, he said in a statement.

    “Before this assessment came down, I was bullish on oil and gas production in the United States. Now, I know for a fact that American energy dominance is within our grasp as a nation,” Zinke said.

    As oil and gas producers stare down steep decline curves of shale wells, they continue to pump record amounts of oil and gas from the Permian Basin. The assessment shows there are still more technically recoverable resources to find even as production swells amid global oil market uncertainty.

  189. Baldrick

    Their abc preach from their billion dollar bully pulpit that Wind power, because it is free, is driving down south australian energy prices.

    The research was conducted by the Victorian Energy Policy Centre, the Ponds Institute of energy pricing, filled with Greenfilth Ruinable Energy activists.

  190. struth

    From My travels in the outback, I have seen so many oil discoveries here just plugged up.
    Especially west of Alice.
    We are a recourse rich country even more so than the States.
    This is a disgusting state of affairs we find ourselves in due to our own traitors.
    Imagine a world where we were actually competing against the states and OPEC countries with just oil production.
    How would this help the poor countries of the world?
    A bloody sight more than having our wealth stolen from us to hand over in donations to the corrupt UN.

  191. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Try Coffs Harbour.

    Just have. Overnite stay driving, on way up to Brisbane. Leaving the motel now, old style place. Redolant of past days. There used to be banana plantations on all the hills behind. Now all is Eucalypts, same as on the new quick roads, no vistas, all the old farmland forcibly planted out with now overgrown Eucalypts, beautiful vistas of old Australia, lost under green pressure.

    Where have all da bananas gone? sings Hairy. Long time passing.

  192. Myrddin Seren

    Now all is Eucalypts, same as on the new quick roads,

    Another Future Firestorm.

  193. John Constantine

    APRA, the regulator, rips the throat out of IFL, ioof.

    Looking ugly.

    An australian financial system that used to hit key performance indicators by giving people like senator lucy, off the plane from Kenya with nothing, loans for four houses and two new cars and holidays and a housefull of electric gear.

    Those days are over.

  194. John Constantine

    “Last night, IOOF received a notice from APRA that it seeks to impose licence conditions on IOOF’s APRA regulated entities, along with court proceedings and a show cause notice from APRA in relation to alleged breaches of the Superannuation Industry (Supervision) Act 1993 (Cth).
    The matters concerning the licence conditions largely cover initiatives that are already in progress, or have been completed, in consultation with APRA. The proceedings seek certain declarations and disqualification orders against Managing Director Chris Kelaher, Chairman George Venardos, Chief Financial Officer David Coulter, Company Secretary Paul Vine and General Counsel Gary Riordan.
    A return date for the court proceedings has not been set. IOOF must respond to the show cause notice within 14 days.
    IOOF is disappointed that APRA seeks to impose licence conditions, commenced the proceedings and issued the show cause notice. IOOF has been working cooperatively with APRA to actively implement various agreed initiatives, which were most recently outlined at the 2018 Annual General Meeting. The historical matters the subject of the proceedings were disclosed to APRA a number of years ago. IOOF has already addressed”

  195. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    December the seventh, a date that shall live in infamy…

  196. Roger

    Their abc preach from their billion dollar bully pulpit that Wind power, because it is free, is driving down south australian energy prices.

    Uh huh…

    Average prices per kWh for September:

    QLD 27.6246c/kWh
    VIC 28.2461c/kWh
    NSW 33.1118c/kWh
    SA 42.8816c/kWh

  197. Myrddin Seren

    This is fantastic, if you haven’t seen it yet.

    Episode 697 in ‘We lost the Cold War when the Berlin Wall came down – the Commos just walked across the Line‘.

    Germany Launches ‘How to Identify Nazi Parents’ Guide For Schools **

    A new booklet for daycare workers that claims to help identify “Nazi parents” suggests looking out for girls with braided hair and athletic boys.

    The obese offspring of messy couch potato parent(s) obviously make for better recruits for the Red Pioneers.

    The 60-page booklet, entitled Ene, Mene, Muh – And You’re Out! was designed by the far-left “anti-hate” Amadeu Antonio Foundation ,which is headed by former Stasi informant Annette Kahane

    Is there any prominent German ‘public intellectuals’ who aren’t working for the former-Stasi ? ( Must have gone underground – probably call themselves ‘Spectre’ these days ).

    The Amadeu Antonio Foundation defended the booklet claiming that the case studies were based on real-life cases they had witnessed including a girl with braided hair whose parents turned out to be far-right extremists.

    ‘Punch a Nazi girl with braids, Comrades !’

    The case studies echo research presented by Antifa groups in 2016, which claimed that “Volkisch families,” those who believe in countryside living and traditional German culture and values, posed a threat to Germany.

    Well, that is pretty explicit – traditionalists must be criminalised – and bashed.

    Antifascist Action group member Olaf Meyer warned of “young couples [who] buy farms and restore them together with their relatives and friends.”

    Wow – look out all those people on ‘Back to the Country, Farm Restoration’ type lifestyle shows.

    Turns out you are not tree-changing, but are literally Nazis and deserve a good bashing.

    Comrades.

    ** ( Australian edition to be released in Year Three of the Shorten Ascendancy – in time to ensure Nazi parents are suitably dealt with before the 2022 election ).

  198. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    8h
    Without the phony Russia Witch Hunt, and with all that we have accomplished in the last almost two years (Tax & Regulation Cuts, Judge’s, Military, Vets, etc.) my approval rating would be at 75% rather than the 50% just reported by Rasmussen. It’s called Presidential Harassment!

    Presidential harassment – he’s right you know.

  199. Infidel Tiger

    If he wasn’t so thin skinned his rating would be around 60%

  200. bespoke

    Australia’s peak music body has called for a federal watchdog to enforce gender and sexual diversity among performers at music festivals.

    PM Bespoke: Your not children go away!

  201. Boambee John

    struth at 0940

    My Nanna’s handwriting was beautiful.

    FiL was a farmer who completed only primary school.

    Absolutely beautiful hand writing.

  202. Notafan

    You’ll always have Interpretive Dance, nota.

    Definitely!

    I totally forgot about that no talent specialty.

    Thanks Calli

  203. bespoke

    If he wasn’t so thin skinned his rating would be around 60%

    That’s feature not a bug, IT.

  204. Notafan

    Top Ender

    Deck hand must be minors

    life belts for men only

    Women and children are replaceable

    other than that perfect list

  205. stackja

    Saeed Noori pleaded guilty in Supreme Court
    Rebekah Cavanagh, Herald Sun
    7 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    A man has admitted accelerating into pedestrians, killing a grandfather, in a pre-Christmas deadly rampage in Melbourne.

    Saeed Noori, 33, today faced the Supreme Court where he pleaded guilty to one count of murder, 11 of recklessly causing serious injury and five of conduct endangering life over the Flinders St onslaught on December 21.

    Family of victim Antonios “Anton” Crocaris, 83, wiped away tears as they stared down their loved one’s killer as he said the word “guilty” to each charge.

    His plea comes almost a year after he ploughed into pedestrians crossing at the busy Flinders St and Elizabeth St junction.

    A previous hearing heard images of vehicle-ramming terror attacks were found on Noori’s computer.

    But today’s court heard it was not being treated as a terror-related incident.

    “He hasn’t been charged with terrorism offences,” Justice Elizabeth Hollingworth confirmed.

    CCTV shows Noori stop his Suzuki SUV along Flinders St and wait as the pedestrians started crossing, before accelerating into the crowd.

    Mr Crocaris, from Northcote, suffered critical head injuries and died in hospital nine days later.

    A four-year-old boy and teenager, 16, were among the dozens injured.

    Noori was remanded to face a three-day plea hearing on February 12.

    More to come.

  206. Myrddin Seren

    Tucker agrees with Death Ungulate

    Tucker Carlson Says Trump Has Failed to Keep His Promises

    Fox News host Tucker Carlson said in an interview Thursday that President Donald Trump has succeeded as a conversation starter but has failed to keep his most important campaign promises.

    “His chief promises were that he would build the wall, de-fund Planned Parenthood, and repeal Obamacare, and he hasn’t done any of those things,” Carlson told Urs Gehriger of the Swiss weekly Die Weltwoche.

  207. Rae

    My Nanna’s handwriting was beautiful.

    The handwriting of GPs, like Karen (sic) Phelps, doesn’t matter much these days. By and large, they now use their desktop PC to print out scripts and referrals. Some specialists do hand-write scripts, but their opinions are almost invariably dictated into a handheld digital recorder and printed out by their medical secretaries.

  208. H B Bear

    Doctors unfortunately quite often, have the very wrong view that many who have attended university have.
    Studying one subject at an institution makes them experts on all things.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Fiona Stanley for example. Even worse when they work in public health policy.

  209. Roger

    A previous hearing heard images of vehicle-ramming terror attacks were found on Noori’s computer.

    But today’s court heard it was not being treated as a terror-related incident.

    Well, thank God for that.

    Mental illness, perhaps?

    Meanwhile, US federal investigators are still searching for a motive in the case of the Somali immigrant who yelled racial epithets at two J3wish men outside an LA synagogue before turning his car around and attempting to run them down.

  210. Zatara

    Latvia voted today to just say no to the UN suicide by migration deal. Belgium is reportedly “teetering on the edge” of doing the same and I’m amazed Italy hasn’t done it already.

    Australia
    Austria
    Bulgaria
    Croatia
    Czech Republic
    Estonia
    Hungary
    Israel
    Latvia
    Lithuania
    Poland
    Slovakia
    Switzerland
    United States

    It’s interesting how many of the no sayers have suffered under the boot of Soviet occupation.

  211. Mother Lode

    So, among the peddlers of law, what actually does constitute a terrorist attack.

    I suspect it is a very carefully parsed definition which is at odds with what the ordinary people (who are the usual targets and have a vested interest) would consider.

  212. C.L.

    When I think back, he was also in the Navy during the war, supplying Tobruk, was a navy boxer, and had one of those tattoos on his forearm like bloody Pop-eye.
    God I miss them.
    And their generation of decency.
    So busy, all the time.
    Grandpa went to church on Sunday to have a snooze, much to Nanna”s consternation.
    You’d all have fond memories the same.
    Are we letting these people down?

    Yes.

  213. Bruce of Newcastle

    If he wasn’t so thin skinned his rating would be around 60%

    I suspect it is 60% already.
    Would you tell a pollster that you approved of Trump?
    I would not.
    Pollsters are chock full of lefty activists with databases.

  214. stackja

    Still December 6 in Hawaii.

  215. Roger

    According to recent research undertaken by French libertarian group Libertex, France is one of the most illiberal countries in the developed world, coming in below the supposedly neo-Fascist government of Viktor Orban in Hungary in several key areas such as government censorship of social media.

    RTWT (in French)

    Vive la révolution!

  216. C.L.

    ABC Online:

    Like flat earthers and Holocaust deniers, climate change sceptics are unshakable – and dangerous.

    Not as dangerous as Dr David Shearman’s fellow left-wing doctors – deluded psychopaths who kill thousands of people every year in abortion clinics.

    Death toll from “climate change”: 0.

  217. Mother Lode

    Pollsters are chock full of lefty activists with databases.

    Alas, it makes sense.

    The idea of polls is to provide a snapshot of opinion. But as soon as the left realised the results had an impact on perceptions and subsequent opinion then they would have determined it to be ripe for weaponising.

    The left politicise anything and everything that can be used to manipulate other people and deliver them power. What they typically do not realise is that, absent the original uses and institutions, they are left as much in the dark as the people they seek to manipulate.

    It is why they were so convinced Hillary was going to win, and why so many of them still haven’t got their soft little heads around the fact she didn’t.

  218. struth

    I would not.
    Pollsters are chock full of lefty activists with databases.

    That’s why we have secrot ballots, a South Australian invention, too.

    SA, once a mighty state of Telegraph building and mining and exploration.
    Now a shithole.

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