Some things about migrants

that you wanted to know but were afraid to ask.

From the Centre for Independent Studies. Read all about it.

Some of the key findings are:

A majority (54.85%) of migrants live in postcodes with a median Household Income (HIND) bracket above the Australian median.
Newer wave migrants are significantly more likely to be skilled and to live in wealthy areas.
53% of English as a second language (ESL) migrants in above median HIND areas speak English very well. 44% of ESL migrants in below HIND areas speak English very well.
45% of working age migrants in suburbs below the median HIND are not in the work force. 34% of those living in areas above the median are not seeking work.
24% of migrants living in postcodes below the median HIND have a Bachelor’s degree or a higher qualification. 38.72% of those above the median have this level of qualification.

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20 Responses to Some things about migrants

  1. John Constantine

    As opportunity has concentrated amongst crony connected networks in the better toned parts of the better toned cities, how does dumping migrants out in the regions, quarantined away from the crony networks that ration out opportunity become an economic stimulus?.

    Good government jobs out in the regions depend on the person being willing and able to spend their time driving back and forth to the city and building crony networks where the money comes from.

    Not doing the actual job, but cronying up to get the grant to do the job.

  2. Sinclair Davidson

    Why is this surprising? Australia operates a skilled migrant program.

  3. Suburban Boy

    Sadly, the CIS document avoids the migration topics that matter most to the Australian population.

    The words “Islam” and “Muslim” and their derivatives are absent from the document. The word “crime” and its derivatives are also completely absent. The word “refugee” makes a single appearance but only in a passing reference to a migration wave of 40 years ago.

    The document makes no attempt to address the critical question of cultural compatibility. This is no fault of the author’s (presumably it is outside the document’s intended scope), but it means the analysis offers no real help in understanding the difficult policy issues surrounding our migration policies.

  4. Dr Fred Lenin

    Sa harda to learna the english Ima only beena here sincea 1958 an /im a gotta the gooda englisha . An oldmate of mine who came from the Italian Riviera said the southern Italians would be lucky to be able to read IlGlobo in Italian . The women were even less literate .

  5. Cynic of Ayr

    Well, obviously, the ones who can speak English very well, aren’t working on the other end of my telephone call to Telstra!

  6. Confused Old Misfit

    One has a suspicion that a lot of the data was gathered from self referring/reporting sources.

  7. Notafan

    24% of migrants living in postcodes below the median HIND have a Bachelor’s degree or a higher qualification

    From the university of where?

    The most recent migrants from China that I see almost daily have extremely poor or non existent spoken English, and I see a lot of them.

    I assume they are here either as ‘students’ or as ‘business’ migrants.

  8. jupes

    It doesn’t matter where they live or how they get to work, what percentage support the Chicom government and what percentage love Old Mo?

  9. MPH

    Anyone who thinks to call themselves independent clearly isn’t independent. I know their report is toilet paper before I even look at it.

  10. sfw

    Not surprising, no mention of how entire suburbs have lost all traditional Australian culture and the few old Anglo Australians left wonder where the place they grew up in and loved has gone and why. I recently caught a train from Hornsby in Sydney to Central Station (never been on that train before). As the train pulled into the stations it was a sea of Asian faces with a few other maybe Indian faces and very few Anglo Aussies, the billboards and hoardings were in some Asian language. What has happened?

    I live in a small country town in Vic, we have started to grow recently, many of the new residents used to live in the eastern suburbs of Melb, talking to them a similar story, the suburbs they grew up in, married, bought houses and had families are no longer recognisable, they are strangers in their own land. At least they can afford to get away, I feel for those who live in the poorer suburbs in commission housing or a place they worked hard to own, surrounded by Africans, Islamics and other migrants, they are lost but have nowhere to go and no resources to do so.

    Nothing wrong with a bit of migration but why have we allowed it to drown out our culture?

  11. Boambee John

    The Road to Somewhere by David Goodhart (about the UK) is worth a read.

    Goodhart seems to be a determined “Anywhere”, but recognises the concerns of the “Somewheres”. Lots of useful statistics.

    He notes that, as here, the mass immigration program has never been taken to an election by any major political party, and is highly unpopular, even among the better educated and migrant communities.

  12. Makka

    This CIS report is hardly the issue. Showing where immigrants live and their economic profile.Even the RBA acknowledged our migrant intake has almost removed any wages growth for over a decade. That is on top of crushloading our cities and public amenities. The UNiparty is full steam ahead on Big’Straya , like Sinc and others because GDP and the desire to have open borders. That dog doesn’t hunt any more. Nor does our “skilled” migration program where 25% of them are stilled unemployed 3 months after arrival. It’s a rort designed by the Govt to boost our immigrant numbers in a palatable manner.

    For a deeper understanding of our UNiparty immigration policy this helps. MB are left green for sure (except on immigration where they are hard right) but on the issues surrounding immigration and it’s effects economically in Australia they do a very good job.

    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/scanlon-spins-mass-immigration-backlash/

    With most recent opinion polls showing the majority of Australians want immigration to be lowered, including:

    Australian Population Research Institute: 54% want lower immigration;
    Newspoll: 56% want lower immigration;
    Essential: 54% believe Australia’s population is growing too fast and 64% believe immigration is too high;
    Lowy: 54% of people think the total number of migrants coming to Australia each year is too high;
    Newspoll: 74% of voters support the Turnbull government’s cut of more than 10% to the annual permanent migrant intake to 163,000 last financial year;

  13. Boambee John

    From Makka’s link

    Mr Scanlon, whose family wealth is estimated to be more than $600 million, has set up a foundation with the aim to create a larger and socially cohesive Australia.

    We can see Scanlon’s work on a larger Australia taking effect; his efforts to increase cohesiveness seem less visible.

  14. Boambee John

    Actually, on reflection, the improved cohesiveness shows up in removal of security bollards and easier aircraft boarding checks.

    Oh, wait ….

  15. Richardf

    Now stories from the real-world.

    The 30+ applicants I review for IT positions all have degrees, most have masters. Yet I’m about to let another go; turns out being able to code is no longer a requirement.

    The salary offered today is less than I earnt first year out of university 25 years ago (not adjusted for inflation). Back then my flat in Sydney’s Eastern suburbs was about 4yrs salary:-)

    But keep bringing in third-worlders, what could go wrong? (ROFL)

  16. Squirrel

    What a shame that this flood of splendidly credentialled talent is being brought here to be swallowed up by the concatenation of rorts, rackets and debt-funded spivery which passes for the urban elements of the Australian economy – overwhelmingly domestically focused in a globalised world, and thus doing little to pay for the vast imports of goods and services consumed by our large cities.

  17. Harpo of Wolli Creek

    Let’s keep bringing them in in vast numbers. The less skilled can go on welfare and the more “skilled” (Indian IT degrees, anyone,) can leverage their dodgy degrees into a housing loan and push up real estate prices for the rest of us. Win, win!

  18. Buccaneer

    The impact of stealing the 3rd world’s most capable peoples is to permanently keep those countries in the grip of tyranny. Seems to suit the elites who are most comfortable when dishing out other peoples money to the less fortunate people they were complicit in denying the opportunity to join the civilised world.

  19. max

    Problem that Australia and all western nations have are:

    welfare and easy access to citizenship.

  20. Stimpson J. Cat

    45% of working age migrants in suburbs below the median HIND are not in the work force. 34% of those living in areas above the median are not seeking work.

    What could this possibly mean?

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