Identity politics is reactionary

Peter Baldwin continues the series of articles on the site of the Blackheath Philosophy Forum looking at identity politics.

Old progressive verities have been turned on their heads. The aspiration to transcend race is now denounced as ‘racist’. Affirming the right to freely discuss and criticize religions can lead to charges of ‘Islamophobia’…

This is not the Left I signed up to at the start of my political career in the early 1970s. That Left, with all its defects, at least had certain things basically right, such as the attitude to race and to freedom of speech (with the important exception of the pro-communist element that was then quite powerful through its influence on the trade unions and, through them, the Labor Left).

I have been both appalled and puzzled by this…

I am often surprised to hear strong agreement from people who I assumed would be solidly in the ‘PC camp’. Yet there is generally a pronounced reluctance to express such views openly, especially on the part of academics who are obviously terrified of the social and professional death frequently reserved for ideological heretics.

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13 Responses to Identity politics is reactionary

  1. struth

    I know why the lefty is cofused.
    Many people are and it has to do with the greatest lie ever told.
    Hitler was left wing and lefty drones were told he was right wing.
    That’s why they are so obsessed with their oppostion being Nazis and therefore racists bigots etc etc.
    Racism is always of the left and dividing people into groups requires a collectivist mind.
    Exactly what identity politics is.
    Many lefties are very confused because of this lying propaganda…..from the left.
    This writer has always been on Hitlers side of politics.
    And as they gain more power the more they become the insane identity Nazis they have always .
    been.
    If you’re appalled and puxxled that’s because you bought your own sides lying propaganda.

  2. Craig

    Appalled and puzzled huh? I’m not. Simply put, anybody on the left is a lunatic thru and thru.

  3. None

    Very good series. Thanks for bringing it to our attention Rafe.

  4. AussieMAGA

    In-group preference is a scientific reality. It is not a moral defect AKA “racism”. If you think it is a defect you have been brainwashed. To say that ‘identity politics’ (pejorative for in-group preference) is reactionary, even though everyone has been doing it for the entirety of history, is retarded. Libertarians are retarded.

    People who complain about ‘identity politics’ are always white or echoing whites. A smart person would question why that is, but not a Libertarian – because they are retarded.

    Whites restraining their natural in-group preference is not working out for them. Other ethnic groups are pursuing their in-group preference and it is benefiting them. Two solutions:
    1. whites embrace ethnocentrism (like for all of human history, except the last 50 years)
    2. undermine ethnocentricism in non-whites and broader society. e.g. by labeling it pejoratively ‘identity politics’; marking it as low-status/outsider/evil.

    Whites have pursued the second option since at least the 60s, despite its continued failure. They do this is because it is politically correct and despite claiming to be ‘individuals’ they fear being marked as low-status among the herd.

    Libertarians would rather have their freedom of speech and association be taken away than be called ‘racist’. They implicitly support the big state social engineering project of Multiculturalism because they don’t support its alternative.

    btw, the people who beat the Nazis were ‘racists’ and in Australia’s case white nationalist. You should thank white racists for all the freedoms you enjoy, and blame white ‘anti-racists’ for all the freedoms you are losing.

  5. struth

    So the white pricks killing white pricks in WW2 were white racists.
    Gees we get some wack jobs here.
    Our white nationalists were fighting the Nazis, who, being racist because they were socialists and socialists because they were racists were killing 6 million joos……and were white.
    Fighting for your culture even if it was developed by whites doesn’t make you a racist.
    Being a collectivist is the first step.

  6. Fisky

    Libertarians would rather have their freedom of speech and association be taken away than be called ‘racist’. They implicitly support the big state social engineering project of Multiculturalism because they don’t support its alternative.

    It’s even worse than that. Many libertarians support government sponsored refugee resettlement, because it facilitates “freedom of movement”. The CATO Institute ludicrously claimed that refugee resettlement programs were the “smart way to defeat ISIS” even though:

    -such programs are at least 10 times more expensive than supporting refugees in or near their home countries (so much for “small government”!)
    -opening the doors to large numbers of refugees has allowed ISIS members to infiltrate Europe and commit atrocities

    It is no wonder that most people see the libertarian movement as irreparably damaged and discredited.

  7. JC

    Fisk

    The Cato piece was an opinion piece. It’s not the view of Cato.

  8. Fisky

    The article fully reflects the position of the CATO Institute. No one at the CATO Institute would disagree with it, and in fact their main immigration scholar, Alex Nowrestah, openly supported Merkel’s importing 1.5 million asylum seekers.

  9. Old Irrelevant me

    AussieMAGA
    #2886030, posted on December 14, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    Now you have me interested, please write again. Further clarity if you will.

  10. Tel

    People who complain about ‘identity politics’ are always white or echoing whites. A smart person would question why that is, but not a Libertarian – because they are retarded.

    You have no understanding of what identity politics is about. It’s nothing to do with “in group preferences” and that’s easy to demonstrate. Take for example gay Americans, Muslim Americans, black Christian Americans, and illegal immigrants from Mexico (mostly also Christian) … do these people orient their politics around “in group preferences”? Why no they do not … all of these groups mostly consist of strong Democrat supporters, despite the obvious conflict of interests and despite the fact that the leadership core of the Democrats are white Anglo-Saxon Protestants with a long history of their own supremacy above anyone and everyone. Now that is “identity politics”.

    1. whites embrace ethnocentrism (like for all of human history, except the last 50 years)

    You have obviously no idea how the British Empire operated, nor the French Empire for that matter. You deliberately conflate the idea of white skin with a cultural and political system as if skin colour somehow controls how you think. I’m not going to insult retarded people (who can’t help it) with you who does it on purpose … but why don’t you actually go and look at some of human history? You might be entertained and amazed.

    There’s plenty of British people who migrated from India and have darker skin than Obama while also having a strong loyalty to Western values. This isn’t a new thing, it was happening when the British Empire was at its peak more than 100 years ago. The idea of a white ethno-state would require us to ABANDON most of what has historically made us successful.

  11. Tel

    Fisky #2886175,
    Governments create problems quietly with one hand, so they can demand bigger budgets so they can make a big noise “fixing” those problems with the other hand.

    The Cato opinion piece presumes that the US government in Washington are in some way interested in defeating ISIS. However, since ISIS generates big military budgets, and since the real objective has always been Middle Eastern destabilization and trying to topple governments such as Assad … you can absolutely guarantee that the incentive is to keep doing more of the same.

    As for the resettlement program … Patrick G. Eddington links to a CIA history discussing reselling several dozen former KGB personnel, with great caution, into the USA. He tries to make equivalence to a mass migration program with something of the order of 100,000 migrants from the Middle East into the USA every year … somehow I doubt they are putting as much care into screening. Remember, the next terrorist attack will provide an excellent reason to ask for more powers and yet again bigger budgets.

  12. Percy Popinjay

    I heard Brendan O’Neill speak at length on this topic very recently at the CIS.

    Interesting that people often cite MLK’s speech on the subject of blindness to a person’s race, as the speech is now regularly being modified (or censored) due its inclusion of the term “negro”.

    The woodchucks at MiniTru never sleep, comrade.

  13. @ AussieMAGA
    #2886030, posted on December 14, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    Mate, I suggest you read Tel’s response to you, and read it again.
    The very essence of “Western values”, a mostly British values system best codified in the US constitution and bill of rights, is the notion of individual rights over group rights. This is the exact opposite of what you wrote.

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