Marrakesh express derailed

This is the final para in a post by Judy in The Weekend Oz: World in no hurry to board the Marrakesh Express on migration.

The principal roles of a sovereign government are to protect the nation’s borders and to act in the best interests of its own citizens. To do otherwise is to invite internal dissent, something Macron is beginning to learn. There are lessons for other world leaders.

Such as our own! A few more quotes for those who are paywalled out.

Individual countries are more than capable of sorting out the size and type of immigrants they require….

The final version was belted out across 18 months of expensive consultations. But note that many ­parties who made suggestions to rework the document — to ­emphasise the importance of countries’ sovereignty, for example — essentially were ignored.

Last week, a spokesman for the US government summed up that country’s refusal to sign the compact by labelling it “an effort by the United Nations to advance global governance at the expense of the sovereign right of states”….

The central aim of the compact is to convert illegal migration into regular migration, with all the ­assoc­iated privileges accorded to legal migrants…. Economic migration is seen as an inalienable human right….

The compact then dives into equally dangerous water by stating that one objective is to “eliminate all forms of discrimination and promote evidence-based public discourse to shape perceptions of migration”. In other words, descriptions of migration that are not positive and fulsome should not be permitted….

If we look at the attitudes of ­ordinary citizens to migration around the world, it is clear that a rising proportion is opposed to high migrant intakes. Indeed, in many countries, the largest proportion of citizens would prefer ­reduced or zero migration.”

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29 Responses to Marrakesh express derailed

  1. stackja

    Orderly migration of the past created patriotic nationalism.

  2. mh

    The UN is a tool of the globalist elites. It was set up by them.

    The idea of those elites is to use immigration to weaken national sovereignty allowing for the further imposition of global government.

    Who voted for global government? Nobody.

  3. Boambee John

    A bas les UNistos, a la guillotine avec les!

    (Pardon my rusty French!)

  4. H B Bear

    Another direct hit from Judith. I think it was Steyn who labelled this UN exercise as the potential high water mark of globalism.

  5. mh

    Anyone have the list of nations who have declared they will not be signing?

  6. overburdened

    One can only work with the available information.
    I think the fact that the current processes of selective historical and social revisionism with attempts in some instances of deletion, and the absolutely transparent plan of international wealth redistribution and the breakdown of national identity and sovereignty using the weather as a fig leaf is crazy.
    As a person of stoical persuasion I am amenable to being persuaded if given a compelling argument.
    Since I have not found any common sense in why the Oz Government would even entertain any tolerance for what appears to me to be brazen behaviour, or tolerate the minions and cat’s paws of the new social order is that I don’t have enough data.
    A pragmatic view would be that the plebs aren’t in on the overarching compact that gives some rationale for the current state of things. A bit like a naïve person watching professional wrestling.
    I am reminded of the process of being corrupted. It starts with being offered a carrot. Once engaged, the contract becomes carrot or stick. When the target is in the bag the carrot is thrown away.

  7. PB

    Mostly though, we are sick of Third World garbage coming here and behaving like Third World garbage on our dime.

  8. Fisky

    Iampeter fully supports the Marrakesh global migration treaty. He loves global government!

  9. mh

    Kevin Rudd is a supporter of global government and loves to suck up to those he believes are the global elites, thinking that one day he will be one of them. He normally ends up picking the wrong people, like when he sucked up to that Brazilian PM who is now in jail. Hahaha

    The politicians who are the tools of the global elites have been picked by them, you don’t go to the elites like Rudd attempts to do. Tony Blair is one of the globalist puppets, he was picked long ago with the usual initiations like attending Bilderberg secret meetings. What a grub.

  10. Squirrel

    Surely even the most pig-headed of the Pan-European types can see that if it weren’t for the unrestricted movement of people under the Schengen Agreement, the Brexit vote would almost certainly never have happened, and with it, the fiscal and other threats to their lovely continental-scale project – and yet here we have their confrere trying to pull the same trick on a global scale.

    Viva the populism and nationalism of sensible, self-respecting peoples and the politicians willing to stand up for them!

  11. Dr Fred Lenin

    This is the foulest treason for the West,anyone advocating this should be tried , found guilty , and executed without appeal . What about we have the Manangatang Express a plan to return unsuitable migrants to the shitheaps of their birth taking their kids with them . Who wants to sign?

  12. Robber Baron

    They are not sending us our best. We are not being represented by our best.

    I am confident that the latter will never change for the better.

  13. mareeS

    People with an IQ of less than 90-80-70 should just stay in the jungles and leave us with 135+ to get on with things.

    I hate to think of my family as elite, but we all are fluent in at least three languages, and in maths and sciences and literature.

    What is the point of importing illiterates in all of these disciplines to be a burden forever?

  14. Tel

    I’m fluent in at least three computer languages … I also speak both English and Bad English.

  15. Paul Farmer

    In the thread on Stop Wasting our dam water, Ron was quoted in relation to water and other infrastructure as saying inter alia ” [these are]…..available only because previous generations invested their know-how and money for the future “.

    This is a very relevant point also with the whole migration debate. Our society is prosperous because of the incredibly intricate investments made into key public and private infrastructure over many prior generations, what Hayek would call the structure of productive capital in our economy. This includes not only public infrastructure such as roads, dams , hospitals etc but also specialized private capital in the form of firm plant and equipment , but also human capital which is passed on through our education and training systems.

    It amazes how little this is appreciated by the young generation of today who see capitalism as some form of sickness yet its allocative mechanisms are so vital to guiding this effective investment, generation on generation, that it is unquestionably a key plank in producing the very affluent lifestyles the young today can enjoy, which in turn avails them the very freedom and time to sit around pontificating that the system is sick ……… as opposed to say someone in the third world who still works 12 hour days , 6 days a week for $ 5 per hour. We all benefit from this cumulative investment in infrastructure generation on generation and it is so intrinsic to our standard of living we don’t even see it.

    But this is not just good luck, this is the conscious effort of a society making those investments and equally having the institutional framework that facilitates these correct investments over many generations for example by allowing market mechanisms to flourish and finding the proper balance for a limited role of government in the economy. This also ties into Niall Ferguson’s idea of the protestant work ethic being one of the fundamental killer apps of Western civilization. We all buy into the ethos that such investment underwrites a better world for future generations.

    But if we of today’s generations get a free lunch riding on the shoulders of those that came before us then migrants from the 3rd world get the largest free lunch of all here. They often come from societies who have made little attempt over time to improve either their public or private capital and moreover establish systems in their societies to improve their human capital.

    By fostering a view that economic migration is a fundamental human right we actually undermine the very tenets of the nation state system and we undermine the incentives of 3rd world countries to make the difficult steps and investments needed to propel themselves down the road of progress.

    A nation that pays this intergenerational cost to improve its standards of living by constantly upgrading its human capital and private and public capital that underpins its society over time earns the right to control who comes into its country to enjoy the fruits of these investments………if you water down this right to control migration , you undermine the very basis for the nation state itself and you do nothing to stem the flow of migrants from countries who are not invested in their own future.

  16. Fisky

    Surely even the most pig-headed of the Pan-European types can see that if it weren’t for the unrestricted movement of people under the Schengen Agreement, the Brexit vote would almost certainly never have happened

    It’s not Schengen per se that broke the EU, it’s Schengen PLUS an open external border to millions of Muslims and Africans pouring in. If it were just Europeans being able to travel and work freely in the EU, there wouldn’t have been so much upheaval.

    Anyway, open borders has been shown again to be a complete failure, and all libertarians must bend the knee and admit that they have been defeated!

  17. Fisky

    By fostering a view that economic migration is a fundamental human right we actually undermine the very tenets of the nation state system and we undermine the incentives of 3rd world countries to make the difficult steps and investments needed to propel themselves down the road of progress.

    It’s interesting to note that European growth rates are actually lower AFTER Schengen than they were before. This totally contravenes everything that “libertarian” and establishment economists would predict, but it makes complete sense once you renounce the failed discipline of “economics” and look at reality.

  18. JC

    If it were just Europeans being able to travel and work freely in the EU, there wouldn’t have been so much upheaval.

    Funny you mention that, Fisk. We went to dinner with a Brit couple this evening and got to talking Brexit. I put that very argument to the guy. He reckons the Brits were just as pissed about Frogs, Italians or anyone else coming over the border as it gave them access to the British social security net.

    I disagreed with him and agree with you on this. I think the Brits would have voted remain if it was just the original 9.

  19. Fisky

    The Brits have to say in polite company that they are EQUALLY outraged by open borders to Euros as they are Muslim refugees. But everyone knows this is a lie.

  20. mareeS

    Tel, I also have a qualification in psychiatry, and numbos under 90 have a real problem in the modern world. Thy are unadaptable, as Melbourne demonstrates.

    I am not in,any way rascist, but heck, not everyone is equilavent.

    Robert Mugabe is ….I can’t say ape, because that girl was slayed.

  21. Crossie

    Tony Blair is one of the globalist puppets,

    No, he is not. He is the author of the present British predicament particularly the huge Pakistani influx and its aftereffects – the rapes, the no-go areas, the unemployment and welfare exploitation. Once you exported most of your industries why would you need increased immigration?

    The current situation n UK has thrown the class system into sharp relief. The “Asians” were not brought in to work but to displace the chavs* whom the British upper classes dispise. That the “Asians” are raping the chavs’ children is of no concern to the elites. To some extent Brexit is the chavs fighting back when they realised they were marked as foreigners in their own country.

    *British version of bogan.

  22. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    By fostering a view that economic migration is a fundamental human right we actually undermine the very tenets of the nation state system and we undermine the incentives of 3rd world countries to make the difficult steps and investments needed to propel themselves down the road of progress.

    Open migration produces the situation that Britain is now in, where citizens are scared to speak their minds. Countries thrive when their people are unified into commitment to a cohesive polity and then abide by agreed rules; it’s called democracy. It only works within nation states of people with an over-riding central culture. Look back to Britain, in its Finest Hour, rallying whilst staring defeat in the face.

    Democracy can find no place for scared citizens. Freedom is essential. National cultures matter, a lot. The UN wants to destroy these national orientations, which will simply create universal chaos.

    Every culture has its strengths. Aren’t the French showing that right now? They are hugely good at traditional street fighting, finding cobblestones under the tarmac.

  23. Boambee John

    Paul Farmer
    #2887156, posted on December 17, 2018 at 12:15 am
    In the thread on Stop Wasting our dam water, Ron was quoted in relation to water and other infrastructure as saying inter alia ” [these are]…..available only because previous generations invested their know-how and money for the future “.

    The whole Paul Farmer post is worth close study.

    For Dot and others who seek to charge an “entry fee” to migrants, it suggests a way to calculate said fee. Estimate the cost of the full private and public infrastructure of Australia. Divide it by the current population, less the number of never-employed overseas born who have made no positive contribution, the result is the entry fee.

    I suspect that the figure would be eye watering!

    No discounts for “refugees” who could afford to pay people smugglers, discount it from their social security entitlements, and charge interest on the outstanding balance.

    “Bleeding hearts” could be invited to sponsor a “refugee” by paying their entry fee.

  24. mh

    Crossie
    #2887217, posted on December 17, 2018 at 7:39 am
    Tony Blair is one of the globalist puppets,

    No, he is not. He is the author of the present British predicament ….

    That predicament is a national sovereignty crisis, manufactured by the global elites. Tony Blair is right now fighting for a second Brexit referendum.

    New Brexit referendum logical, says Tony Blair

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46565064

  25. struth

    Anyway, open borders has been shown again to be a complete failure, and all libertarians must bend the knee and admit that they have been defeated!

    New Brexit referendum logical, says Tony Blair

    They have been defeated?

    What rot.

    Until we are completely free of the World domination and control ambitions of the unelected socialist UN bureaucrats, and have pulled the foul Marxist/communist c..nts out of our schoolos we haven’t won a dam thing.
    If history of socialist activity since WW2, (which is always the same….to take over ze vorld, yawn), and one refusal by only some nations to peacefully sign their sovereignty over to them without a fight, showing the level of brainwashing and corruption achieved (Australian traitorous bureaucrats would have done it without skynews letting the active right people know what was going on) and the amazing amount of corrupt globalist money going into this fight against the west even up to paying for thousands to cross Mexico and head for the US and the corrupt money behind the invasion of Europe, being caught out trying to make the invasion of the west international Law, and the west to pay for it……….the lackelustre response and indeed the submission to it by most of the socialists now in bureaucratic control of the west, can you please explain how you know it’s defeated?

  26. bollux

    Breed like rabbits, move to the West-Breed like rabbits, move to the West-Breed like rabbits, move to the West-Breed like rabbits, move to the West-Breed like rabbits, move to the West, ad infinitum until we are gone. Then what you leftist pricks? I would really like to know what Stage 2 is.

  27. GoWest

    Instead of bullying successful countries – bully the ones who are the producers of immigrants. The root cause of the migration needs to be addressed by the UN – allocate their funds and people to countries who produce immigrants. Find solutions and implement them. Coal fired power stations could help… 😉

  28. Jimf

    Farmer Paul hits the nail. The entire ideology of leftist globalism is not to champion successful nation state market based models, it is to peg them back under the cancerous guise of “fairness and equality.” These are just euphemisms for social decline, and an evening out to the lowest common denominator. Mediocrity is the bible of these ignorant dangerous EU types and other elites the world over . They won’t be happy until all the world is a shit hole. Of course they have agendas which would enable themselves to
    Profit from such schemes. When 90% of the world’s population live in societies that envy western riches the cards are stacked. The UN is an accomodator of this global dumb down.

  29. Jimf

    And for an example of how the global is also domestic, look no further than the coming together in Adelaide last few days of 100’s of rent seeking socialists who’s mantra is that we can only be a better place if we re-distribute wealth around. Only a fool (ie a leftist) actually believes we’ll be more prosperous by handing out money to dumbos who’ve never contributed to wealth creation in their lives. The piss weak Liberal Party have actually created a situation where a hollow private schoolboy cum Union bovver actually has no fear of sprouting out and out socialism as safe election policy. What a joke.

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