Greg Sheridan on the lies they were teaching in 1985. Producing Red Guards

Thanks to max in the Belt and Road comments, talk about Greg Sheridan being ahead of the curve.

Occasionally I get to meet a 20something girl who is completing some kind of social studies course at the Uni of NSW. From time to time there are red flags, like “I would probably vote Labor but our local Liberal is such a good man I can vote for him”. That is Trent Zimmerman.
And in reply to a suggestion that we don’t need to reduce our emissions if nobody else is doing it “But that is so individualistic”.
And some inane comments on generational disadvantage in the indigenes.

It occurred that she is a product of a system that could produce the leadership of the Red Guards in the Chinese Cultural Revolution. That is something that I know about because my house-mate is just completing a memoire of her eight years in the country after her father went into confinement for 10 years without communication and the guards beat the Principal of the school to death with belt buckles. Etc.

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26 Responses to Greg Sheridan on the lies they were teaching in 1985. Producing Red Guards

  1. Entropy

    The education system in the west has enabled operatives within modern governments to get away with all sorts of auto-antonyms like the much abused term “market based instruments” which sounds like it champions the market to develop the best outcome for all, when it in fact assigns a central role for government planning and interference.

    And we all know how well central planning works out in the end.

  2. Death Giraffe

    Education is indoctrination.
    Compulsory indoctrination for your children.
    End compulsion.
    End government indoctrination.
    End compulsory education.

  3. a happy little debunker

    settlement of Australia is increasingly portrayed as some kind of hideous crime against humanity

    It was, but not for the reasons commonly put forth.

    It was a heinous ‘crime against decency’ for the English to transport citizens (against their will) half way round the world and then strip those people of their citizenship (and any right of return) after lengthy terms of incarceration for mostly petty activities.

    The people who provided the backbone to this country were made stateless and forced to endure much hardship – but they persisted, to deliver a better life for their children, grandchildren and subsequent decedents.

    Think about that the next time certain groups mention ‘Invasion Day’ & how some ‘mobs’ think they woz robbed!

  4. struth

    it all starts in our schools.

    How many teachers were made to defend themselves regarding using their students to protest about climate change?

    None.
    The grizzling so called right wing media complain about our education system, but here is the main issue.
    They don’t go and confront the “red guards” in our education system doing it.
    And if they think those same red guards are soon going to show them the same courtesy, (as is already happening) then maybe they’ve learned nothing from history.
    They were never taught that history, maybe…………………
    Which goes back to……………………
    IT ALL STARTS IN OUR SCHOOLS.

  5. stackja

    None Dare Call It Treason by John A. Stormer
    Education Chapter VI
    America is reaping the consequences of the destruction of traditional education by the Dewey-Kilpatrick experimentalist philosophy… Dewey’s ideas many academic subjects on the ground that they would not be useful in life… The student thus receives neither intellectual training nor the factual knowledge which will help him understand the world he lives in, or to make well- reasoned decisions in his private life or as a responsible citizen.
    — Admiral Hyman Rickover1
    WHO WAS THIS MAN, Dewey, who is so roundly criticized by the renowned Hyman Rickover, the “father” of the nuclear submarine?
    John Dewey was an educational philosopher. His experimental philosophies of education were first tried in a model school at the University of Chicago before 1900. They were dismal failures. Children learned nothing. Undismayed, Dewey left Chicago in 1904 and went to Teachers College, Columbia University where he became the dominant figure and the most influential man in American education.
    His influence can be measured by the realization that under Dewey’s guidance fully 20% of all American school superintendents and 40% of all teacher college heads received advanced degrees at Columbia. They adopted Dewey’s experimental theories, which came to be known as “progressive education,” in the schools of the nation. Under the pretext of improving teaching methods, they changed what was taught to American children.
    What did Dewey believe? In his writing and teaching, Dewey rejected fixed moral laws and eternal truths and principles. He adopted pragmatic, relativistic concepts as his guiding philosophy. Denying God, he held to the Marxist concept that man is without a soul or free will. Man is a
    100 None Dare Call It Treason
    biological organism completely molded by his environment. Dewey believed that because man’s environment is constantly changing, man also changes constantly. Therefore, Dewey concluded, teaching children any of the absolutes of morals, government, or ethics was a waste of time.

    And books and articles by Kevin Donnelly

  6. Myrddin Seren

    1968 – Student activists, having failed to ignite Revolution, return to the lecture halls and get B.A.s and B.Eds.

    And then proceed to weaponise the degrees.

    ( Bill ) Ayers born December 26, 1944) is a former leader of the Weather Underground domestic terror group and American elementary education theorist.

    During the 1960s, Ayers’ ideology was integral in the counterculture movement that opposed US involvement in the Vietnam War.

    He is known for his 1960s radical activism and his current work in education reform, curriculum and instruction.

    In 1969, Ayers co-founded the Weather Underground, a self-described Communist revolutionary group with the intent to overthrow imperialism, that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings (including police stations, the US Capitol Building, and the Pentagon) during the 1960s and 1970s in response to US involvement in the Vietnam War.

    Ayers is a retired professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, formerly holding the titles of Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar.

    And here we are.

    Denouncements and Struggle Sessions will continue until morale improves.

    Comrades

  7. John Constantine

    We will all just be so happy when everybody thinks the same and we can get rid of the unsound to RE education camps.

    Eternal total life with nobody happier than anybody else and bespoke services for everyone, statefunded and all while singing around the cooking fire barefoot in the dust.

    Comrades.

  8. John Constantine

    Revealed this week that peoples liberation army secret police have been hacking European Union officials communication for years.

    Having their Alex turnfailure as part of Australia’s ruling kleptocracy while all his communications with the prime Minister were compromised by the Tyrants secret police Is Our Strength.

    Comrade Maaaaates.

  9. Death Giraffe

    Hark!

    ..
    This catchphrase is shit.

  10. Entropy

    Actually we import most of those Harken.

    I can tell you know that Theo only reason my organisation is still afloat is the economy is so bad a lot of our senior skilled workers have stayed working past retirement age. Graduates these days are platitude ridden, judgemental ignoramuses. I know that graduates have always been so, but even back in the day they at least had a smidgeon of awareness of their ignorance, or had at least a vague connection with our customers. The new lot are like close minded priests.

  11. md

    Sheridan’s 1985 article tells us what we all knew to be true then and we know to be true today. So, there is only one question: why have ‘conservative’ governments over the past three decades done NOTHING about it?

  12. bollux

    ‘But your “big picture” take that modern education is corrupting everything good and right is ridiculous,”

    Hark, did you hear that Australiastan now ranks 39th of 41 countries that have an education system in maths, science and language. I suppose your next post will tell us that beating Turkey and Romania was a tremendous achievement and totally justifies the highest per capita spend in the world per pupil. And humans still only produce 3% of all co2. Sorry to bang on, but you just haven’t grasped that yet. Jerk.

  13. candy

    You’d think with the massive money being poured into education Australian kids would not be underperforming compared to the rest of the world.

    It is true that anyone under 30 firmly believes in global warming and the earth is going to be burnt up shortly. Also that millions of aboriginals were massacred by white men who came here expressly to kill them off and mine for coal which will kill us all by causing global warming.
    They are firmly taught that in school. It may contribute to feelings of depression and hopelessness that seems to pervade.

  14. max

    For Harken Now

    I have 2 teenagers, and occasionally after school they tell me same stories that you are spewing and believing.

    My answer to them is:

    Why do you think daddy and grandparents come to Australia form SFRY as refugees with nothing.
    Because they teach us, same socialist baloneys which produce poverty and misery around world.


  15. Kneel

    “…openly discuss all the time how student performance is going…”

    Sure – they are watching and talking and trying new things, all as student performance falls through the floor. If they really are using performance based measures to calculate their “success”, then clearly the nations student scores in terms of international competitiveness falling should give you some clue that the previous changes were in the wrong direction – you know, they made things worse, not better.
    Unless, of course, their measure of “success” has nothing to do with such scores and is all about how well “integrated” they are, how environmentally caring they are, how much they are prepared to protest against others trying to improve their lot and so on. You know, like a government thing: “We DO take this seriously – look how much money we are throwing at it!”.
    Outcomes, shmoutcomes – as long as they can read the newspaper article praising my greatness, and add a column of 2 digit numbers (their weekly govt f*ckwit allowance) without a calculator, they’ll be fine. Oh wait…

  16. cuckoo

    Only a couple of years ago I was dealing with a young woman who was researching the history of a building in the Melbourne CBD. Turned out she was a recent arrival from Russia. I directed her to some sources, and in a little while she returned to me, her face aghast. She had learned that the building in question once housed the offices of the Communist Party of Australia. As she stammered, “You had a communist party…in Australia?!WHY?!

  17. Maybe it is time more Australians read Iain McGilchrist’s “The Master and his Emissary” and Roderick Tweedy’s “The God of the Left Hemisphere” so as to catch up with and understand what is happening in the Western World.

    As McGilchrist observes, “they don’t know what they don’t know”, and is typical of the ignorance displayed by so many Australians.

  18. “You had a communist party…in Australia?!…WHY?!“

    Because Aussies (narrowly) rejected the chance to ban Communism when Menzies gave them the chance.
    Just think how utterly amazing this country would be without Socialist Scum…

    We wouldn’t have ultra racist inhuman trash like Farting Now polluting this site with the CAGW fraud that was the means by which the pig fucker racist left were to stop the development of the Third World. “No brown people! You can’t have nice things like us. Now shoo off brown people, there’s too many of you!”

    We would have kids who could add, speak and write properly.

    We wouldn’t have had Rudd or Gillard…or Turnbull.

    We’d probably be holidaying on the moon.

    If we ever have the chance again Australia, next time don’t be so fucking stupid.

  19. Iampeter

    And in reply to a suggestion that we don’t need to reduce our emissions if nobody else is doing it “But that is so individualistic”.

    LOL, she sounds like most Cat posters.
    Just replace climate change with immigration, or free trade, or tech companies, or even more basic concepts and you get smashed for being “so individualistic” or some straw-man of it, at the Cat.
    Here is your very own Max, getting so confused by his own terrible arguments, that he ends up characterizing people acting in their self interest (i.e. individualism) as “slavery, war, theft, murder, prostitution…” (incidentally, I just noticed this, but why is “prostitution” in that list, HAHAHA?)
    Here we have Fisky, gleefully rejecting the idea of individual rights as “meaningless”.
    Here is none other than Spartacus, arguing in favor of the collectivist notion of “commons” and rejecting the idea of individual rights protecting government as something that has “never existed, will never exist and one suspects that even if it did exist, no one would want to live in it.”
    And I could keep going. I could also add the terrible left wing arguments Cat posters end up making as a result of not supporting individual rights.
    So, given the routine and explicit rejection of individual rights by the overwhelming majority of Cat posters, not to mention the almost total political illiteracy on what is supposed to be a right wing, political blog, on what grounds do you think you can laugh at this 20something?
    As wrong as people like her are, they are less confused about the basics than the retiree-aged posters here.
    I wouldn’t need to explain to her that she’s a collectivist and leftist. She at least understands that much.

  20. max

    For Iampeter:

    by Mark Skousen:
    “there’s a dark side to Rand’s teachings. Her defense of greed and selfishness, her diatribes against religion and charitable sacrificing for others who are less fortunate, and her criticism of the Judeo- Christian virtues under the guise of rational Objectivism have tarnished her advocacy of unfettered capitalism.”

    “No sacrifice, no altruism, no feelings, just pure egotistical selfishness, which Rand declares to be supreme logic and reason.”

    “Are the lessons of her book any way to run a marriage, a family, a business, a charity, or a community?

    Mr. Smith and Rand agree on the universal benefits of a free, capitalistic society. But Smith rejects Rand’s vision of selfish independence. He asserts two driving forces behind man’s actions.
    In “The Theory of Moral Sentiments,” he identifies the first as “sympathy” or “benevolence” toward others in society. In his later work, “The Wealth of Nations,” he focuses on the second – self-interest – which he defines as the right to pursue one’s own business. Both, he argues, are essential to achieve “universal opulence.”

    Golden rule anchors true capitalism.
    Smith’s theme echoes his Christian heritage, particularly the Golden rule, “Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them” (Matt. 7:12). Perhaps a true capitalist spirit can best be summed up in the commandment, “Love thy neighbour as thyself” (Lev. 19:18; Matt. 22:39).

  21. Kneel

    “…not panic about relatively modest moves up or down the scale.”

    top 5 to second last out of 40 is “relatively modest”? Yeah, I suppose so, if it happens over 15 years, it’s only two places a year or so, right? No problem, right?

    I know I’m unusual in that my job requires me to make quick “sanity check” calculations, which I normally do in my head, so my basic math skills are pretty much always sharp, and I have previously surprised my boss by beating him (he had a calculator, I did not) at working out how much he’d save over a year on his electricity bill for a specific discount – I suggested “that’s over half a million”, he then pressed the equals button and got 534,963 (or similar – you get the picture). For the last 10 years at least, I have regularly surprised the cute young things at the supermarket checkout by handing correct change to them for my purchase before they totalled it up on the register. Not talking about 50 items with weird prices, just 3 items at eg, 5.99, 3.49 and 7.99. Easy, right? Not for the current generation, OR the one before that. They ask if I used a calculator on my phone, and are stunned when I tell them I do it in my head. They don’t even “count back” your change any more – you know “3.45, (5c) that’s 3.50, (50c) that’s 4.0, ($1) that’s 5. Thank you, come again. Next!” God help them doing the float at the end of the shift – they need a freaking calculator for simple arithmetic!
    Most spell colour without the u, and have appalling spelling, syntax and grammar that no-one seems interested in correcting them about.
    On the plus side, they DO know that homosexuals are “normal”, that the environment is getting worse and that capitalism is the worst form of government – they just were never taught the remainder of that famous quote, so don’t blame them for that.

    But yeah, nah. Its al gr8 m8! No presha.

  22. Kneel

    ” One which scientists have identified is the long term cost of increasing global temperatures, addressable by a carbon tax and other more direct interventions.”

    And yet, despite “addressing” this issue by spending quite literally $billions, not just here but around the world, on the advise of the self-same “experts” has done, what? Not a bloody thing! And despite it being “settled science”, they always manage to discover that “it’s worse than we thought”. Meanwhile, I now pay double what I did in real terms 10 years ago for my electrons, and they are telling me that despite this doubling being the direct result of govt legislation that forces me as a consumer to pay a third party an additional amount, that the very same things that forced the price up, made the entire system less reliable and completely removed any incentive for anyone to build anything even approaching a reliable, despatchable supply are now, thanks to incredible govt foresight, going to reduce prices.

    I might not be very smart – although I can lift heavy things! – but nobody is that stupid are they? To believe that a system that doubled prices is, without any change whatsoever except even more of the same, going to magically start dropping prices? Sure I believe you. Sure. And I am interested in a nice bridge, now that you mention it, and being a one owner with full maintenance history to boot – what could go wrong? It’s not like it’s my money, after all…

  23. Iampeter

    Mr. Smith and Rand agree on the universal benefits of a free, capitalistic society. But Smith rejects Rand’s vision of selfish independence.

    I’m not sure who Mr Smith is, but I will say that conservatives and libertarians do not agree with Rand on capitalism at all. This is because for the most part, conservatives and libertarians are NOT capitalists.
    This is precisely because you reject the correct ethical system on which rights protecting government and in turn capitalism, can be based on.
    This is in turn, because you’ve rejected the correct understanding of far more fundamental questions about how the world works, choosing to embrace the irrationality of religion instead.

    Perhaps a true capitalist spirit can best be summed up in the commandment, “Love thy neighbour as thyself” (Lev. 19:18; Matt. 22:39).

    That’s how a true COMMUNIST spirit is summed up and is precisely why Christianity is not compatible with capitalism. In capitalism you are not your brothers keeper, you are a rational individual going about your business.
    As I explained in this post, a mystical collectivist ideology, like Christianity, is not compatible with a rational and individualistic system like capitalism. They are utterly opposed.

    In short, you and the many other religious collectivists that dominate the conservative and libertarian movements, are just confused socialists. You are not capitalists and you are not on our side.

  24. max

    Iampeter say:

    “I’m not sure who Mr Smith is,”

    of course you don’t know; your knowledge start and stop with your God: Ayn Rand objectivism –that is your religion/belief

    Adam Smith FRSA (16 June [O.S. 5 June] 1723[3] – 17 July 1790) was a Scottish economist, philosopher and author as well as a moral philosopher, a pioneer of political economy and a key figure during the Scottish Enlightenment.[4] Smith wrote two classic works, The Theory of Moral Sentiments (1759) and An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations (1776). The latter, often abbreviated as The Wealth of Nations, is considered his magnum opus and the first modern work of economics.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Smith

  25. max

    On the 50th Anniversary of Atlas Shrugged
    Gary North

    October 29, 2007
    On October, 1957, Ayn Rand’s novel Atlas Shrugged first appeared. It was greeted by one reviewer with what I regard as the supreme put-down in the history of literary criticism: “This is the worst American novel since The Fountainhead.”

    It is a conceptually confused novel. It was offered in the name of individual liberty, yet its description of how capitalism works is so wrongheaded that it undermines what Rand regarded as a call to economic liberty. I can think of few books that have more completely misunderstood how capitalism works. It has always baffled me that anyone who understands the nature of the capitalist system would find much in this book to praise.
    The book’s theme is this: the captains of industry are intellectually gifted people who are the source of the capitalist system’s productivity. There are very few of them. At some point in the future, they bond together by their commitment to the defense of liberty of thought and personal creativity. When they see that the political deck is stacked against genius and creativity, they retreat from society to hole up like Butch Cassidy’s Hole in the Wall Gang. They hole up in a Colorado valley, not in Wyoming. Without their presence, society begins to break down. The government’s mismanagement brings everything to a grinding halt. The closing image of the book is a train wreck, which was the result of lame-brained government officials. This train wreck symbolic of both social decay and discontinuity.
    Fact: It was not government that destroyed passenger trains. It was the airplane. This was no discontinuity. It was a steady process that was far advanced in 1957. Why Rand used a train wreck as her symbol of discontinuity is unclear to me. Why not a plane crash?
    I can imagine no more confused description of capitalism and the battles we faced in 1957 and still face today. The captains of industry are not high-minded intellectual giants. They are people with the peculiar knack of making money. This knack is ultimately personal and unique. It cannot be taught. It cannot be reduced to formulas. Entrepreneurship is the ability to forecast the economic future and then allocate resources so as to meet consumer demand. This is the thesis of Ludwig von Mises in Human Action. The works of Mises’ student Israel Kirzner best explain the uniqueness of the entrepreneurial knack.
    Far from being intellectual giants, successful capitalists display above-average intelligence, but genius is as rare among them as it is in all other above-average IQ populations. They share no common traits, other than the ability to find ways to exploit the ignorance of their competitors regarding future supply and demand. High-minded? Hardly. Adam Smith described them well in 1776: ready to collude together against the public interest whenever they can get the state to provide them with a monopoly through state coercion.
    Consumers pay them for only one thing: their ability to deliver the goods at a low prices. Capitalists stand ready at any time to get the state to skew the conditions in their favor. Smith did not have one good word to say for businessmen as a class. He distrusted their motives completely. But Rand treated them as if they were heroes under siege by the state. Better to see them as ideological trimmers laying siege on their competitors and consumers alike by means of the state’s collusion with them.
    Rand did not understand entrepreneurship. She did not understand that society-transforming entrepreneurship is not about doing great, creative things. It is about doing little, unconventional things for 250 consecutive years. It is not about rugged individualism. It is about using the prevailing system to make a buck any way you can, and then stay out of jail.
    Consumers are in charge. They don’t make capitalists rich because businessmen are ideologically pure or heroic defenders of property rights. Consumers hand money over to them to get what they want. Capitalists respond to incentives. The main incentive is money, not the applause of the public for a job ideologically well done.
    We get what we pay for. We pay for delivery of the goods in the situation at hand. We need not fear that Atlas will shrug. We should instead fear that he will pay off some key politicians to get an edge against the ever-fickle, ever-demanding consumers: us.
    The heart of the free market’s competitive order is the threat of replacement. Sellers fear replacement by other sellers. Consumers fear replacement by other consumers. Producers look over their shoulders and think, “If I could just shut these guys out of the market.” Consumers look over their shoulders and think the same thing about rival consumers.
    For every captain of industry ready to retire, there are a dozen or more up-and-coming hot-shots ready to replace him. The free market rewards captains of industry with huge benefits. The idea that there are only a few of these people, and their departure into Colorado could in any way undermine the creativity of entrepreneurs, is ludicrous. There are always smart, innovative people ready to replace retirees, no matter why they retired.
    Whatever appeal the novel has had to budding capitalists, it is utterly misguided. It misrepresents the motives of the captains of industry. It also misrepresents their crucial ability: not ideological purity but rather the ability to make a buck.
    Sellers are ready to sell the country’s freedom in exchange for an edge against other sellers. Consumers are ready to do the same against other consumers. Meanwhile, the great economic goal of special-interest group politics is to keep competition out of the marketplace. This, politics has done with great skill.
    Rand described a great discontinuity: the retreat of the creative elite from participating in the capitalist system. She ignored the obvious: the creative elite in capitalism is in it for the money. “Show me the money” is their universal mantra. The greatest discontinuity that we face today is the discontinuity imposed by a government-licensed central banking cartel that has lured entrepreneurs into high-risk projects. How? With false signals: low interest rates produced by fiat money rather than thrift. The threat is not that Atlas will ever shrug. It is that he will lift the earth too high, stagger, and then drop it without warning. His looming problem is not shrugging. His looming problem is a hernia, followed by a slipped disc.

  26. Iampeter

    of course you don’t know; your knowledge start and stop with your God: Ayn Rand objectivism –that is your religion/belief

    Wait, aren’t you arguing in favor of being religious? Now suddenly you’re against it?
    Don’t you see how you keep contradicting yourself?

    Adam Smith FRSA (16 June [O.S. 5 June] 1723[3] – 17 July 1790) was a Scottish economist,

    Oh. Why did you call him “MR” Smith?
    But what’s your point anyway? Rand acknowledges Smith and then proceeds to fix his mistakes by grounding the economics of capitalism in the logically correct ethics of selfishness.
    Do you actually have an argument you were making based on that quote? Has no one told you that random quotes from random people does not an argument make?

    On October, 1957, Ayn Rand’s novel Atlas Shrugged first appeared. It was greeted by one reviewer with what I regard as the supreme put-down in the history of literary criticism: “This is the worst American novel since The Fountainhead.”

    Yea you’re a REAL capitalist. With allies like you, we don’t really need enemies.

    EVERYTHING you post is a self contradiction.

    Anyway, I’ll let you get back to bashing the biggest advocate of capitalism to prove what a capitalist you are…

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