Open Forum: December 29, 2018

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  1. Baldrick

    Must be time for a New Year’s Eve GrigoRae M economics funny:

    Grigory M
    #1771512, posted on August 18, 2015 at 7:50 pm
    GST is not a cost to business – I’ve said it here before

  2. Baldrick

    Top ‘o the page too 😉

  3. MV:

    Essential: In medicine, of unknown cause, as in essential hypertension (high blood pressure of unknown cause). Also known as idiopathic.

  4. Done via payroll software. And there are some administrative trade-offs for the employer.

    WTF? (x 100)
    Please list those “administrative trade-offs”

    Coz I’ve not experienced any such “trade-off”. The ATO’s “one touch” system is a right PITA. Administratively it is inferior to it’s predecessor.

  5. Memoryvault

    With all due respect, Winston, that says nothing, except that the medical profession misuse the word.
    “Essential” means “necessary” in plain English, and has done for a couple of centuries.

  6. John Constantine

    Taxing cashflow instead of profit Is Our Strength.

    Taxing property values instead of profit Is Our Strength.

    Taxing dead people instead of only living people Is Our Strength.

    When the cat trolls show up wittering away about cashflow like brainless fuckups, that should inform us that the talking points for some time now have been aimed at brainwashing the gullible and the gormless that cashflow is a word that means corporate crime, and all corporate crime must be dealt with.

    Comrades.

  7. P

    One of the comment on youtube:
    “The members of this chorus were not granted the gift of speech, but they sing with us SHOULD OLD LANG SYNE”–the old Scottish New Year’s song in Madrid, Spain, using SIGN LANGUAGE–according to the song with its moving name.
    This clearly is the most moving performance of this famous song that I have ever heard.

  8. Tel

    John Constantine #2895598,

    In Australia the real enemy is success and there’s only a few pockets of resistance hanging in there, soon to be defeated.

  9. Memoryvault

    In Australia the real enemy is success and there’s only a few pockets of resistance hanging in there, soon to be defeated.

    I can’t imagine the likes of Calli ever being “defeated”.
    Silenced, maybe, but defeated, never.

  10. vlad

    My one (and only) complaint about Farnham’s Freehold is the title. It’s impossible to explain without giving away the ending of the book and not much of a title anyway. I thought while reading it – or soon after – that a perfect title would have been GRAND SLAM – which the first 20 or 30 pages would have explained – and later read that that was Heinlein’s working title. Why he changed it I’ll never know.

  11. cohenite

    vlad

    #2895606, posted on December 31, 2018 at 3:35 pm

    My one (and only) complaint about Farnham’s Freehold is the title.

    I haven’t read it for a while; is it as anti-black as I remember?

  12. DrBeauGan

    Stranger in a strange land was when Heinlein started to go downhill. He suffered from success, and it made him too self-indulgent. His earlier works and particularly the juveniles were the best. Citizen of the galaxy was one of his best, I reckon.

  13. vlad

    I haven’t read it for a while; is it as anti-black as I remember?

    The funny thing is I don’t remember that element of it at all; but it’s the only thing anyone else talks about. It’s one of the reasons I want to re-read it, ie is it as anti-black as everyone else remembers!

  14. calli

    Cashflow is the lifeblood of business.

    Of course the parasitic classes want to tax it.

  15. DrBeauGan

    I haven’t read it for a while; is it as anti-black as I remember?

    I didn’t read it as anti-black at all. Just showing what a superior black authoritarian culture might look like. Not very attractive to a libertarian white man, for sure, but credible on its own terms.

  16. DrBeauGan

    The black boss man is actually humane, kind and civilised by his lights.

  17. vlad

    Stranger in a strange land was when Heinlein started to go downhill. He suffered from success, and it made him too self-indulgent.

    That happens to most writers. I haven’t read any of the Harry Potter books, but look at them on the shelf and you can see them getting longer and longer. Nobody cuts an author who’s pulling in the bucks. Hemingway had it in his contract that the publishers couldn’t change a single word of what he submitted.

  18. vlad

    From what I’ve read online (and forgotten), didn’t the black boss eat white teenage girls for dinner, ie literally?

  19. DrBeauGan

    vlad
    #2895617, posted on December 31, 2018 at 3:54 pm
    From what I’ve read online (and forgotten), didn’t the black boss eat white teenage girls for dinner, ie literally?

    Not as I recall. There was an acknowledgement of cultural cannibalism. Heinlein loved challenging taboos.

    I don’t see that lefties can argue against cannibalism, given that it’s cultural and all cultures are equal. They accept fgm on that basis.

  20. cohenite

    Heinlein was a gifted story teller but when he got preachy he was unreadable. I loved Glory Road when I was young but couldn’t finish it a couple of years ago. Starship Troopers is a hoot; and the movie was fun too.

  21. Eyrie

    It was “Glory Road” that got written in 23 days.
    “Stranger” was written before that. Followed IIRC by “Farnham’s Freehold” and “The Moon is A Harsh Mistress” so no he didn’t decline after “Stranger”. Heinlein later had a restricted blood flow to the carotid in the later 70’s (the decade), corrected by surgery, after which he wrote “Friday” and a few more novels “The Cat who Walks Through Walls” and “Job”.

  22. DrBeauGan

    I recall that roast sucking coolie was on the menu at one point. But only the lefties would infer that Heinlein approved of cannibalism.

  23. Eyrie

    What was the term Larry Niven used for those who think the views of a character are those of the author? Ah, yes,”idiots”.

  24. DrBeauGan

    It was when stranger made a big hit with hippiedom that Heinlein became famous. Farnham’s Freehold and Harsh Mistress are brilliant. Friday is disappointing and Job just awful.

  25. cohenite

    What was the term Larry Niven used for those who think the views of a character are those of the author? Ah, yes,”idiots”.

    I think Heinlein was very fond of Lazarus Long.

  26. Rae

    Delta A. I wish you well with your treatment.

  27. Gilas

    Arkie/DG
    Get your ar.e back in here!
    You don’t get to endlessly entertain us with UnZud humour, crappy videos and then leave on a hissy fit!
    WTF’s wrong with you??
    Cats are better than that, just scroll past all the crap.. you’ll get plenty of practice.
    Many of us already do.

  28. DrBeauGan

    Every full moon I am reminded of Larry Niven and that great short story.

  29. EvilElvis

    Administratively it is inferior to it’s predecessor.

    Like everything the government does. Like when the ATO took over super from the clearing house format. “We’ve fucked up again, you pay the fine” should be writ above every public service door.

  30. Armadillo

    Is stretch neck still MIA? Meh.

  31. cohenite

    Inconstant Moon made a good episode of The Outer Limits. But Niven’s space operas, Ringworld, The Mote are just amazing. The modern equivalents by Peter Hamilton and the gritty Expanse series don’t come close.

  32. Oh come on

    Let’s keep m0nty’s prediction handy for future laughs:

    Mueller doesn’t want to show his hand yet, but when he does, it will be a royal flush.

  33. vlad

    I have my copy of Grumbles From The Grave open on my lap as I type. Page 198:

    “The new novel ([Farnham’s Freehold] working title: Grand Slam) I did in 25 intense days, 503 pages.”

    He’s writing to his agent who replies he can’t believe he wrote it that fast. Heinlein wrote a few books at that sort of speed, including The Door Into Summer.

    Charles Van Doren – who’s still alive by the way – of “Quiz Show” fame (sadly) – said that he read Door into Summer in one sitting and immediately read it a second time, ie twice in one sitting. And that it was the only book in his lifetime of reading he’d done that with.

    I definitely need to read Farnham’s again and soon.

    Here’s an interesting/entertaining article/profile about and with Heinlein.

  34. Armadillo

    My plan to attach firecrackers to his big floppy ears at midnight seems to have been foiled. I’m disappointed.

  35. bespoke

    Armadillo
    #2895635, posted on December 31, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    Is stretch neck still MIA? Meh.

    Busy setting taps and laying poison.

  36. vlad

    I also strongly recommend everything and anything by the late Charles Sheffield, who died too young at 57, when he had a lot more hard-sf left in him.

  37. Eyrie

    Known Space is great. Man-Kzin Wars series also. Just re-read Man-Kzin Wars 2 “The Children’s Hour”.
    Couldn’t stand the Expanse when it was about the SJW lady. Series one started well but rapidly deteriorated. Can’t be bothered with any of the books after that.
    BTW there is a MAJOR MAJOR scientific screw up in “The Expanse”. If you spin up Ceres to 1/3 g at the surface as in the series, it flies apart. What did they think held a body that size together?

  38. Eyrie

    “I also strongly recommend everything and anything by the late Charles Sheffield”
    Seconded!

  39. DrBeauGan

    cohenite
    #2895636, posted on December 31, 2018 at 4:36 pm
    Inconstant Moon made a good episode of The Outer Limits. But Niven’s space operas, Ringworld, The Mote are just amazing. The modern equivalents by Peter Hamilton and the gritty Expanse series don’t come close.

    Larry was educated as a mathematician and it shows. I agree that Ringworld and Mote are superb.

    The IPA has been doing readings of great Western literature, and some are enough to make you give up on Western Civilisation. I was thinking of suggesting The City and the Stars, or Ringworld as much more representative of the best of the West. But they don’t focus on feelings, so can’t be any good.

  40. vlad

    And it’s terrible (to me at least) that apparently the market for hard-cover (for all I know, for paperback) sf has crashed even since the eighties – which seems like yesterday to some of us. No one now sells in the numbers that Friday or Arthur C Clarke’s 2010: Odyssey Two got. Sad – as DJT would say.

  41. Elle

    Gilas, I don’t think that was a hissy fit by Arky. I assume you’ve followed the conversation. He was being polite and wankers with issues attack him. It’s like our parliament and cricket team – egos that crave to be stroked; so they lie, cheat and abuse.
    Toxic.

  42. struth

    Let’s face it.
    The last of Arky’s videos jogging in 40 degrees was disturbing and as mh points out he went off the rails with TDS.
    He didn’t look well adjusted at all and to post videos of building a car is one thing, but that was something altogether different.
    I indeed hope he hasn’t lost the plot.
    Either he had lost the plot and that’s what made him go running in 40 degree heat, or running in 40 degree heat made him lose the plot.
    Either way, I noticed a lonely fellow.
    Maybe someone not getting what he should out of his marriage.
    I could be reading things into it, but I hope the lad wasn’t leaning too heavily on the cat as a replacement for real world friends and family.
    Also, as I can attest, it’s a tough time for many a stale pale male, harassed from industries you are at your peak in, and as expert as anybody in, due to government corruption and corporatism.
    And those of principle must either lose those principles or leave.
    Which has happened to Arky in teaching.

    I saw a bloke on the edge in that running video, so I do hope he is alright.

    If you’re reading this Arky, unfortunately even after that is said, there is nothing for it but to realise the world you are in, that you are not to blame, and toughen up mate.

    You are white, male, and middle aged and the world has told you to get fucked.
    Chuck a brown eye back at it, and fight like a man possessed.

  43. EvilElvis

    I could be reading things into it, but I hope the lad wasn’t leaning too heavily on the cat as a replacement for real world friends and family.

    Christ…

    There’s a few of us in that bin, haha.

  44. Elle

    Either way, I noticed a lonely fellow.
    Maybe someone not getting what he should out of his marriage
    .

    Presumptuous.

  45. Notafan

    Morning all

    Shall miss you Arky

    Please don’t leave, the Gillian Triggster isn’t worth it

    I’m in Rome which is exactly the same as last year, long queues at St Peter’s square yesterday for bag inspections, for those that wanted to see the pope.
    Missed pre-booked tickets for the Vatican and Sunday was free and therefore impossible, with a queue for the queue

    Went to see the art works on loan from Russia instead of St Peters, exhibition was a thank you to the Vatican for lending them some of theirs.

    The Nativity this year is a sand sculpture so no-one can steal Baby Jesus.

    It’s very crowded, everywhere, I noticed little groups of young people being led on pilgrimage by young nuns, which probably isn’t new, just new to my eyes.

    We stumbled upon the Basilica of St Clement walking back from Saint John’s Lanterna, which is built over the original basilica which was once a domus,, didn’t go down below to visit, too crowded with a tour group. Next time.

    English is the go to language intersection for European visitors and Italians, very convenient for us

  46. Top Ender

    For me:

    1. Citizen of the Galaxy
    2. Troopers

    I am ashamed to admit I once did a dissertatation on “Heinlein’s Later Fiction.” It, like Heinlein’s later fiction, was awful.

  47. Caveman

    Terrorist activity probable New years Eve Sydney “Be aware of your own environment” says the policeman. How sad its come to this.

  48. cohenite

    What happened to Arky? He’s not stimpy is he?

  49. Rae

    We are watching the apple of Mark Knight’s eye in the Hopman Cup. That upper body development across the back and shoulders looks just like those overdeveloped Chinese swimmers from a few Olympics ago. Banned for steroid abuse were they not?

  50. DrBeauGan

    I am ashamed to admit I once did a dissertatation on “Heinlein’s Later Fiction.” It, like Heinlein’s later fiction, was awful.

    Your secret is safe with us, TE. I agree with your judgments on Heinlein’s best. I’d follow them with Harsh Mistress. His great strength was creating believable societies different from ours, and characters who lived in them.

    As opposed to the classics as seen by the literary crowd, who obssess over domestic trivia and perverts.

  51. John Constantine

    https://moneyweek.com/499249/how-much-gold-does-china-have-a-lot-more-than-you-think/

    “So that’s what they say they have. Now let’s look at what they have accumulated. We’ll start with what they’ve mined.

    In 2007, China overtook South Africa to become the world’s largest gold producer, mining 276 tonnes. Last year it mined 430 tonnes, about 50% more than Australia, the world’s second-largest producer.

    China now accounts for around 15% of total annual global gold production. But China keeps all of the gold it mines; it does not sell a single ounce abroad.

    As well as keeping all of the gold it mines, since 2010, China has ramped up its gold imports. In 2014, it overtook India to become the world’s largest importer, buying gold from Hong Kong, Switzerland, London, Australia and Singapore.

    It is hard to get precise figures as many of these trades are over the counter, but Hong Kong does provide them – and they are astonishing. Between Hong Kong imports and Chinese gold production, China has accumulated more than 10,000 tonnes of gold since 2000.”

  52. thefrollickingmole

    for the Arkster
    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Of_Anger/Book_I#VIII.

    “the best plan is to reject straightway the first incentives to anger, to resist its very beginnings, and to take care not to be betrayed into it: for if once it begins to carry us away, it is hard to get back again into a healthy condition, because reason goes for nothing when once passion has been admitted to the mind, and has by our own free will been given a certain authority, it will for the future do as much as it chooses, not only as much as you will allow it. The enemy, I repeat, must be met and driven back at the outermost frontier-line: for when he has once entered the city and passed its gates, he will not allow his prisoners to set bounds to his victory.”

  53. John Constantine

    The price of gold depends upon the whim of the Tyrant.

  54. struth

    Christ…

    There’s a few of us in that bin, haha.

    There’s additional, and there’s replacement.
    I prefer the conversation here much of the time because there are like minded souls and I then don’t earbash my real world family.
    I can also turn the computer off at any time and so just fit in inbetween.

    I would consider most on here as friends of a type.

    But they have to not be your ONLY friends, FFS.

    You know, what I’ve just said is a load of cobblers.
    This has replaced some friends and I’m very glad of it.
    And I’m glad that technology has allowed me to connect with like minds.
    It’s a new world we are in, and very difficult for stale pale males, who Arky is an involuntary member.
    It’s very understandable that he, (and maybe myself included) use this technology to find the like minded we do not have around us in the real world.

    It’s a very lonely life for the average Australian, living in a cultureless void in suburbia and beyond.
    Personal friendships at work or socialising has virtually been banned.
    We used to have Christmas parties in the work shop that were doosies.
    Think of the disconnect we all now experience in this over governed, litigious shithole.
    At least in comparison to how we used to be.
    Men feel like eyes are upon them if they cuddle a child.
    As an ex interstate truck driver, I have had many years where I have become very used to being considered a criminal just because of what I am.
    Now most white blokes are starting to feel the same thing, as cultural Marxism grows, terrible yucky drugged out bogan baby killing truckie or …………………….
    Or like Arky, a school teacher………………..

  55. struth

    Presumptuous.

    Yes it most certainly is Elle.
    And I stated as much.

  56. bespoke

    Elle

    Lets leave it at that for now. It may come down to misunderstood motives that happens all the time hear. Id like to buy them both a beer one day (hopefully at the same time)

  57. John Constantine

    “But there is no way China could declare that it was holding 10,000 tonnes today. It would cause enormous disruption. First, it would send the gold price a long way higher – which it won’t want to do while it is still accumulating.

    Second it would cause untold disruption in the forex markets – a yuan backed by gold could strengthen significantly. China doesn’t want this just yet, either – it wants the yuan low for trade purposes. Meanwhile, it has an extraordinarily large US dollar holding in its foreign exchange reserves. I rather expect it wants to protect the value of its holding – at least for the time being.

    But third, and perhaps most of all, to declare that it had more gold than the US would be a direct challenge to American supremacy, almost a declaration of war. China’s not ready for that. Not yet, anyway.”

    Australias gold reserves were sold [ effectively to the chicoms] and effectively for a pittance. If we followed the money flowing from the chicoms towards those in political power when the decision was made, what would we find?.

    In australia, our media is too unswervingly compliant with blowing our power plants up on behalf of the chicoms to ever ask uncomfortable questions.

    Comrade Maaaaates.

  58. Memoryvault

    struth
    #2895650, posted on December 31, 2018 at 4:57 pm

    Loves ya like a brother mate, but please don’t criticise people when they aren’t here to speak for themselves. It’s not a good look, and besides, it accomplishes nothing.

  59. mh

    struth
    #2895650, posted on December 31, 2018 at 4:57 pm
    Let’s face it.
    The last of Arky’s videos jogging in 40 degrees was disturbing and as mh points out he went off the rails with TDS…

    TDS is related to the increasing phenomena of mass hysteria. Whether mass hysteria is evidence of a decline in mental wellness in society is open to question. 50 years ago mass hysteria had more benign symptoms, like teenage girls pissing themselves at the sight of the Beatles. Today we see experienced media professionals turning on a dime to argue the exact opposite of what they have espoused for the last 20 years as a result of Trump making a statement.

  60. vlad

    For me Citizen of the Galaxy will always suffer from the fact that the plot is taken straight from R L Stevenson’s KIDNAPPED, which is a ripper read itself.

  61. struth

    It’s not criticising.
    I’m talking about the fact he may be suffering.

    He was getting a bit loose there prior to his dummy spit, and I am concerned.

  62. John Constantine

    Taking donations to dispose of australias gold reserves for a pittance to the chicoms, then spending the money on mass importing voteherds from the worlds poorest countries to form welfare plantations in australian host communities Is Our Strength.

    Just never ask who “Our” actually refers to.

    Comrades.

  63. Eyrie

    Anyone seen the rock opera “Tommy”? The ending was ripped from “Stranger in a Strange Land”.

  64. Elle

    I’m talking about the fact he may be suffering.

    Every human suffers.

  65. Death Giraffe

    ENOUGH.
    This is why Arky must die.
    Talk amongst yourselves about politics and economics the way you are supposed to.
    I like Beaugan. But someone must give him a regular beating, and I can’t do it properly with a Gravatar linked to a bunch of personal stuff.
    I will be here in some other form, if allowed. You will have no idea when. where or what.
    Now. Goodbye.

  66. cohenite

    Heinlein’s stuff is always are a good read but their considerable technical ingenuity is sometimes dated. For true S-F weirdness I always return to A. E. van Vogt.

  67. struth

    I’m talking about the fact he may be suffering.

    Every human suffers.

    Yep, I think I’ll just let you own that.
    Anyway, he has a youtube site so we’ll be able to check out how he is going.

  68. struth

    Got ya Arky.
    I knew you were there all along.

    That was too easy.

  69. calli

    There is also TWS (Trump Worship Syndrome), an insane temptation for the desperate to look to him to solve all of society’s ills.

    Ain’t gonna happen. Arky knows this and said so.

  70. calli

    Ha! He appears!

    Sneaky meerkat.

  71. vlad

    Anyone seen the rock opera “Tommy”? The ending was ripped from “Stranger in a Strange Land”.

    I’ve seen it but forgotten the ending. I remember the ending of the book. Did Tommy die and go to Heaven? If so, the Heinlein estate definitely should sue.

  72. Death Giraffe

    Got ya Arky.

    ..
    Arsehole.

  73. Armadillo

    This is why Arky must die.

    I’ve been arguing this for months (in a roundabout sort of way). I’m glad you have finally come to your senses.

  74. Ragu

    Now. Goodbye.

    Hang about. Why are some of your videos missing?

  75. Armadillo

    I will be here in some other form

    If you reincarnate as an apricot tree, I’m going to be mightily pissed off.

  76. Elle

    Oh. Ok, Arky. Really?!
    Maybe it was a hissy fit. I feel robbed … and I subscribed!
    Here I was concerned.
    A waste of my emotional female energy.
    Never again!
    Off out to partaaay!
    Bring on 2019.
    Miss you mum. Xxx

  77. struth

    There is also TWS (Trump Worship Syndrome), an insane temptation for the desperate to look to him to solve all of society’s ills.

    Ain’t gonna happen. Arky knows this and said so.

    There is also Trump (peace be upon him) Defence Syndrome.
    Where we remind people who like to moan about the colour of his skin, or his speech, just what he is doing and how much better things might be if we all joined in with the fight, so TOGETHER we may solve societies ills, and who never for one moment believed one man alone could have achieved what he has already, anyway, and don’t think of him as a saviour, but as a powerful ally that could do with a hand.

  78. Nick

    I like Beaugan. But someone must give him a regular beating,

    I suspect he’d enjoy it.

  79. calli

    Dame Arky Melba.

    I hope you’re in the outfit with the horns. Always a winner.

  80. Nick

    I will be here in some other form, if allowed. You will have no idea when. where or what.

    I’ll keep an eye out for Sociable Skunk or Flammable Llama then.

  81. struth

    As if a bloke like you wouldn’t be reading the comments after a big grandstanding dummy spit.
    If you want a rest, do what I did recently, and just disappear for a few months.

    I was going to stay away, but I realised too many people seemed happy.

  82. Armadillo

    and I subscribed!

    Typical. I knew there was a sinister “angle”. I just couldn’t figure it out. We’ve been duped!

  83. struth

    There’s two perky bazoombas walking straight out your door arky.
    You’ll never see those in the light of day.
    You total Wombat.

  84. thefrollickingmole

    “Dont touch that, its pure Boomer”….

    Ok, now everyone here knows the boomers were the “down with the old farts and heir stodgy conventions…maaan” generation.
    Now they are getting on a bit whats the new rallying cry of the (currently) worst generation ever?

    RTWT, its a masterclass of “Please dont treat me like we treated older people when I was young”…

    Baby boomers led the cult of youth. Now we should heed the wisdom of age

    We need to start calling out ageism a lot more often,” said Janet Morrison, chief executive of the charity Independent Age. “We need to be a great deal angrier about it than we are…”

    The mystery is why aren’t we? Perhaps part of the answer lies with the baby boomers. Ageism became even more acceptable after those born between 1946 and 1964 created the idea of the teenager and life appeared to begin and end with youth. Those baby boomers are now between 55 and 73. Allegedly rebels with and without a cause, many of them are instead directing their attention to working hard at “passing” as middle aged.

    Others, myself included, can’t quite believe the changes taking place as our energy declines, our muscles ache and our eyesight fades. Somehow, our Peter Pan generation never quite believed ageing could actually happen.


    it is shameful that almost 2 million pensioners are living in abject poverty; a million elderly people have insufficient care to maintain independence; healthcare is rationed and standards in old people’s homes (an antiquated idea in itself) are atrocious.


    Age consciousness means, for instance, providing benches in city streets, rural transport and print large enough to read instructions.

    But first comes the radical step of reframing how society views the process of ageing itself. Ageism can’t continue – it is not just “part of life”.


    Feminists, who have also been guilty of not addressing ageism and misogyny, are waking up. Gloria “This is what 80 looks like” Steinem battles on. Social activist Barbara Ehrenreich, in Natural Causes, addresses fear of death.

    …..
    In the 1980s, Wendy Chapkis wrote in Beauty Secrets that in a society divided sexually, racially and economically, how you look and what you wear signal your power – or lack of it. Wrinkles, chipmunk cheeks, necks with more creases than a Spanish fan – what writer June Arnold called evidence of being “walked on by life” – are as yet a devalued currency. So the human rights of the older person are easily binned. “We do not need to change our bodies,” Chapkis wrote. “It’s time to change the rules.” She is right. It’s time to “see” ageing beyond the surface. Only then will society value the gold that the process truly has to offer.

    WORST
    GENERATION
    EVER

  85. Memoryvault

    Anyone seen the rock opera “Tommy?

    For those of you kiddies – Elton way back in the stone age.

    Pinball Wizard, from Tommy.

  86. Harlequin Decline

    Arma,

    Some mighty fine blogging on the wee small hours the other night. Bit of interference after you shot out of the gate but unstoppable after that. Set a new record and finished on a prime number.

    Did the order of Cingulata proud.

  87. Armadillo

    I shall be ever vigilant of my record, Harlequin. I’m keeping a late night eye on all of you.

    As a second defence, I have Mark A watching my back. That bastard never sleeps.

    I could have made 60.

  88. Armadillo

    Righto, I’m going. And I won’t be back…

  89. struth

    As a second defence, I have Mark A watching my back. That bastard never sleeps.

    I could have made 60.

    He’s in Europe.
    You’ll never make 60.

    Never.

  90. Armadillo

    Until the pub shuts, the bouncers chuck me out or the bar wait is longer than 6 minutes.

  91. Armadillo

    Never

    Challenge accepted. Persistence pays off. If Mark A melds into the European culture, he’s suceptible to bribery. Or extortion. Or both.

  92. Caveman

    Anyone seen the rock opera “Tommy?

    And played Captain Fantastic pinball machine

  93. bespoke

    Armadillo
    #2895716, posted on December 31, 2018 at 6:19 pm
    Righto, I’m going. And I won’t be back…

  94. RobK

    Righto, I’m going. And I won’t be back…
    Then he rolled up and stuck his nose up his bum.

  95. Memoryvault

    And played Captain Fantastic pinball machine

    Geez, Caveman, you must be an old wrinkly like me.

  96. hzhousewife

    Anyone seen the rock opera “Tommy?

    First concert eva, Myer Music Bowl, blind date. Remember the concert but not the date.

  97. calli

    Confess. Who hasn’t been to a concert at the old tin shed?

  98. Memoryvault

    bespoke
    #2895723, posted on December 31, 2018 at 6:29 pm

    Let the ancient history lesson continue.
    First thing I ever learned on a bass guitar.

  99. Caveman

    Geez, Caveman, you must be an old wrinkly like me.

    Na , Tommy was around the teenage years ,even remember when Sherbert said “shit” in one of their songs ,now that was a big deal.

  100. Gab

    I will be here in some other form, if allowed. You will have no idea when. where or what.
    Now. Goodbye.

    I reckon Arky will return as a great pink rabbit.

  101. P

    bespoke
    #2895723, posted on December 31, 2018 at 6:29 pm

    Loved The Twilight Zone and the other similar one, One Step Beyond. Saw both these series here (prob repeats) in the mid to late ’60s. They came on late at night of course but we would never miss them. Late at night those days on TV was around 10 or 10.30!

  102. egg_

    One Step Beyond

    Sounds like Grig’s basement lair.

  103. areff

    Always a good for a laugh, even after 45 years

  104. Bruce of Newcastle

    Arky vs Armadillo reminds me of this track from Rick Wakeman.
    Please stick around guys, I’ll be sad if you leave.

  105. Roger

    First thing I ever learned on a bass guitar.

    You weren’t Robinson Crusoe, Memory.

    Good times!

  106. bespoke

    P
    #2895737, posted on December 31, 2018 at 6:54 pm
    Loved The Twilight Zone and the other similar one,

    Me to but never heard of One Step Beyond.

  107. Memoryvault

    You weren’t Robinson Crusoe, Memory.

    No. As far as my mother was concerned, I was going to be a famous concert pianist.
    As far as my father was concerned, I was going to be a rover for West Perth.

    As far as I was concerned, I was going to escape.

  108. DrBeauGan

    Death Giraffe
    #2895683, posted on December 31, 2018 at 5:51 pm
    ENOUGH.
    This is why Arky must die.
    Talk amongst yourselves about politics and economics the way you are supposed to.
    I like Beaugan. But someone must give him a regular beating, and I can’t do it properly with a Gravatar linked to a bunch of personal stuff.
    I will be here in some other form, if allowed. You will have no idea when. where or what.
    Now. Goodbye.

    I like Death Watch Giraffe. He lives in outsize wardrobes and makes ticking noises. He’s a good bloke, except when he sends consecutive posts abusing me. But I shouldn’t have been so childish as to respond in kind.

    I like his sense of humour, and I admired the way he quit teaching because it was such a toxic environment. I also felt sad for the kids who’d never have him as a Maths teacher. But it showed sense and courage to pull out. I respect his work on his model A which would be utterly beyond me. I like competence, and that shows lots of it.

    I get the feeling he’s been a bit fragile lately, and I’m not very good at noticing things like that, but if so, I hope he takes lots of regular exercise and gets over it.

    We know you have a gorgeous daughter, DG, she must come high on your list of blessings. I still think she should be the star of your videos.

  109. egg_

    What’s Arky been up to – jogging in gumboots* in 40 degree heat with a pair of Model A conrods for dumbells?

    *Oversized to catch Marty, the party sheep?

  110. P

    Me to but never heard of One Step Beyond.

    One Step Beyond is frequently compared to The Twilight Zone, due to being a hosted anthology series with a certain similarity in the types of stories it told. However, it actually debuted nine months before The Twilight Zone. As well, while The Twilight Zone was explicitly a fictional show (with both science fiction and fantasy episodes), One Step Beyond purported only to tell stories based on “human record” (documented events).
    Wikipedia

    You can look up youtube if you like. Plenty there.

  111. Memoryvault

    Well said, Dr BeauGan.

  112. Roger

    As far as my mother was concerned, I was going to be a famous concert pianist.
    As far as my father was concerned, I was going to be a rover for West Perth.

    As far as I was concerned, I was going to escape.

    My mother expected me to become PM.

    My father a barrister, a QC eventually.

    I wanted to be in the next Beatles.

  113. JMH

    That pipe smoking Meerkat had better re-activate his account lest I arrange for a mob of rapacious, rambunctious and ravenous raptors do do over his flea-ridden den. Arky, I hope to see your avatar flying again early in 2019. There are people on this blog who really love your work and dry wit. Don’t deprive us of that please. Take care and all the best for 2019.

  114. Memoryvault

    Evening, Mrs P.
    Any plans for tonight?

  115. Nick

    That was nicely said Beaugy

  116. calli

    My mother wanted me to marry the Beloved, the moment she saw him open the car door for me before whisking me away to my first dance.

    My father, a carpenter and joiner, wanted me to finish school and know the difference between crosscut and ripping saws.

    I obliged them on all counts. 🙂

  117. Roger

    I obliged them on all counts.

    By which they were greatly blessed, I’m sure.

  118. P

    Well said, Dr BeauGan.

    Yes MV, I agree.

    I also have enjoyed tremendously the repartee between DG and Arma. Once I almost fell off the chair with laughter. This was indeed excellent stuff. Not found often these days.
    Both very likeable characters.

    I also have great respect for Dr BeauGan. I have always considered him a gentleman and have appreciated his input here and also his debates with DoverBeach. But that’s my take only innit?

  119. P

    Evening, Mrs P.
    Any plans for tonight?

    Thinking of you MV –

  120. Memoryvault

    But that’s my take only innit

    As valid as any here, Mrs P.

  121. Roger

    If anyone still has to nip out and get the champagne for tonight can I suggest Jansz Premium Cuvee.

    Great value…it doesn’t have to be champagne to be sophisticated…methode Tasmanoise!

  122. Nob

    Memoryvault
    #2895733, posted on December 31, 2018 at 6:47 pm
    bespoke
    #2895723, posted on December 31, 2018 at 6:29 pm

    Let the ancient history lesson continue.
    First thing I ever learned on a bass guitar.

    This for me (on a normal guitar)

    https://youtu.be/50xx1_CbJTI

  123. bespoke

    If anyone still has to nip out and get the champagne for tonight can I suggest Jansz Premium Cuvee.

    Dry night for me but going to make it up in a few weeks when I get out of the city. 🙁

  124. Memoryvault

    Dry night for me . . .

    Careful, Bespoke, or you may get smoted.
    The Doomlord frowns on obscene language here.

  125. P

    For Arky if he’s tuned in –
    I saw this pic several days ago on thetreehouse’s open thread and I instantly thought of you – the trousers and the shoes – yes I thought that’s Arky. Probably not but I wish it were s0. Sometimes one needs to just sit and relax and watch the world go by.
    Anyway, here is the pic
    https://earthporn.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2018/12/just-sitting-by-the-dock-of-the-bay-moraine-lake-2018-oc-2382-4237-768×1366.jpg
    You can enlarge it.

  126. Nick

    I love Trump 🙂

    President and Mrs. Obama built/has a ten foot Wall around their D.C. mansion/compound. I agree, totally necessary for their safety and security. The U.S. needs the same thing, slightly larger version!,’ he tweeted.

  127. bespoke

    Family drama MV got to keep a clear head. I hope the Doomlord makes an exception.

  128. Bruce of Newcastle

    First thing I ever learned on a bass guitar.

    This for me (on a normal guitar)

    Both given honour in The Blues Brothers. I like the Blues Brothers’ version of the Peter Gunn Theme even better than the original, for the smooth-as-silk brass.

  129. The A.D.

    DrBeauGan
    #2895750, posted on December 31, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    ..
    Have I accidentally walked into a gay dating site?

  130. Elle

    Someone called ‘Grigory’ replied to me on the New Year’s Eve thread.

    Arky?
    Grigory?

    I’m confused.

    Stormy skies.

    New Year’s Eve being rained on here in Sydney. Not sure I will see the New Year in.

  131. P

    Memoryvault
    #2895789, posted on December 31, 2018 at 8:20 pm
    That needs some music with it, Mrs P.

    Thank you for the link to Otis Redding. Brings back memories of the 60’s. He died far too young.

  132. DrBeauGan

    The A.D.
    #2895794, posted on December 31, 2018 at 8:30 pm
    DrBeauGan
    #2895750, posted on December 31, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    ..
    Have I accidentally walked into a gay dating site?

    Definitely not. Perhaps you missed the preceding kerfuffle..

  133. Memoryvault

    Have I accidentally walked into a gay dating site?

    No, silly.
    We don’t actually date.

  134. hzhousewife

    And thank you Nob for the link to Time is Tight, takes me right back to my first year in Melbourne 1969 and all the dances we went to, loved all the music, very happy carefree times.

  135. Bruce of Newcastle

    Have I accidentally walked into a gay dating site?

    DrB is being apposite. As befits a mathematician in his cups. 😀
    I, a mere chemist, will join him. I’ve opened a tempranillo.

  136. egg_

    Rove hosting the early NYE show on Aunty?

  137. DrBeauGan

    We don’t actually date.

    Hey, hold on! If I understood him correctly, bespoke offered to stand us both a beer.

  138. Memoryvault

    And thank you Nob for the link to Time is Tight

    Their best of all.

    We used to get requests for it every Thursday, Friday and Saturday night.

  139. bespoke

    If I understood him correctly

    Yep Mandatory tracky dacks and thongs (the foot kind Elly).

  140. EvilElvis

    struth
    #2895666, posted on December 31, 2018 at 5:31 pm

    Amen!

  141. DrBeauGan

    bespoke
    #2895810, posted on December 31, 2018 at 8:44 pm
    If I understood him correctly

    Yep Mandatory tracky dacks and thongs (the foot kind Elly).

    Well of course.

  142. EvilElvis

    Now that we’ve come full circle from dummy spit to we’re all gay and dating (snork…), did anyone actually get the time period of DGs demise to resurrection?

  143. EvilElvis

    And how many new subscribers did you get out of it, DG?

  144. DrBeauGan

    EvilElvis
    #2895814, posted on December 31, 2018 at 8:47 pm
    Now that we’ve come full circle from dummy spit to we’re all gay and dating (snork…), did anyone actually get the time period of DGs demise to resurrection?

    Cripes. Are you saying that The AD is DG in drag?

  145. Memoryvault

    Hey, hold on! If I understood him correctly, bespoke offered to stand us both a beer.

    That’s not a date.
    That’s just mates having a beer together.

    Unless you hold hands that is.

  146. EvilElvis

    Cripes. Are you saying that The AD is DG in drag?

    All that running surely can’t be for health reasons. Maybe he has to squeeze into something?

  147. Memoryvault

    did anyone actually get the time period of DGs demise to resurrection?

    Dunno.
    But much quicker than the last Resurrection of note.
    That took three days.

  148. candy

    LOL
    Ever since Elle talked about caressing her nipples Catallaxy has not been the same.

  149. bespoke

    did anyone actually get the time period of DGs demise to resurrection?

    A lot longer then Armadillo but I’m told it has small hands and is prone to premature…. when excited.

  150. Nob

    Peter Gunn with its 1-string riff was another must learn.
    Then went on to actual bar chords, first two: Proud Mary and Sittin on the Dock of the Bay.

    Proud Mary was John Fogerty’s attempt to write a Steve Cropper horn riff: same chords and Knock on Wood and Midnight Hour intro, which are just the reverse of each other. I guess Tina Turner’s version was how it was meant to be.

    Dock of the Bay was Otis, also influenced by Cropper who was in his band. Otis just tuned guitar to an open chord and moved his finger up and down the neck, but again in the same intervals as the three songs I just mentioned.

  151. DrBeauGan

    I just followed the advice upthread and bought the Jansz premium brut. I am not in my cups yet, BoN, but just wait.

  152. DrBeauGan

    In response to Struth’s comment at 5:17, I see the Çat as a sort of senior common room. The difference is that the Çats and Kittehs are more intelligent and sane.

    Well, mostly sane.

  153. struth

    Seems entertaining urban lefties wirh exploding colorful climate bombs over Sydney Harbour bridge has no effect on the climate because they bought the fireworks home in enviro bags.

  154. DrBeauGan

    Well, mostly sane.

    Which reminds me, Happy nude ear, Stimpy!

  155. struth

    Dr BG.
    I did not make a comment at 0515.

  156. struth

    In response to dr BG’s comment…….

    I forgot

  157. Nob

    struth
    #2895841, posted on December 31, 2018 at 9:26 pm
    Seems entertaining urban lefties wirh exploding colorful climate bombs over Sydney Harbour bridge has no effect on the climate because they bought the fireworks home in enviro bags.

    2019:
    Green Party bans all members from flying because carbon footprint.
    Membership evaporates.

  158. struth

    I’ve become enebtri…enibriatud……… pissed ….too quickly.
    I blame it on the stress I was under all day worrying about Arky.
    Now I won’t see my birthday in.
    Bloody Kiwis with their sheep and their boobies.

  159. Confused Old Misfit

    Single malt
    That is the only answer.

  160. P

    Hey MV, that was a brilliant pick up from the pic I put up for Arky, for you to come up with
    Otis Redding – Sittin’ On The Dock Of The Bay.
    Thanks again.

  161. Crossie

    Ooh my, the party is in full swing here and I still haven’t had a drink, afraid it might react with the antihistamine I took this morning for a wasp sting.

  162. Crossie

    Peter Gunn is a powerful instrumental, when I want a pick-me-up I put it on in the car and turn the volume up until the windscreen vibrates.

  163. vlad

    This place has improved out of all recognition in the last 24 to 36 hours. I’m lovin’ it.

  164. Elle

    F**k you Arky! You put me through unnecessary angst today. Grigory was nicer to me … on the other thread.
    That aside.
    This is for you my Broseph.
    Happy New Year!

  165. Dan Dare

    FWIW and who gives a tuppeny damn but in my neck of the woods near Bendigo the new reffo haven the power went of at about 2pm
    Texts galore from Powercorp so Last time the outage was about 15 hours so fuck this I went to the pub.
    Happy New Year to you all.
    (Hic)

  166. Memoryvault

    afraid it might react with the antihistamine I took this morning

    That’s a feature, not a bug, Crossie.
    You’ll drink less but get drunk quicker.
    What’s not to like?

  167. Crossie

    Watching EnZed fireworks on Sky. They get their fireworks on the cheap, only from the tower.

  168. MV:

    With all due respect, Winston, that says nothing, except that the medical profession misuse the word.
    “Essential” means “necessary” in plain English, and has done for a couple of centuries.

    Sure.
    I just put it in as a guide, because I’d forgotten that ‘essential’ means ‘idiopathic’ in Docspeak.
    The same way that ‘fidelity’ has a different meaning in marriage and sound recording.

  169. struth

    This place has improved out of all recognition in the last 24 to 36 hours. I’m lovin’ it.

    Beer goggles?

  170. P

    It’s my DIL’s birthday tonight. I should be there but I wanted to be alone tonight and remember the NYE’s that have passed.
    Being married to a prof muso there was only one NYE that he did not play and that was the year we were married and living in Darlinghurst Rd, Kings Cross, 1964. It was a waiters’ strike and it was the only year of our marriage of 42yrs when he didn’t work on NYE.
    That year we walked the streets of Kings Cross together and watched Billy Thorpe & the Aztecs playing on a rooftop in Darlinghurst Rd (their job had obviously been cancelled), and later the many swimming in the El Alamein Fountain just up the road from our flat.
    They were good times.

  171. vlad

    Beer goggles?

    Wild Turkey – inter alia.

  172. Crossie

    Winston Smith
    #2895868, posted on December 31, 2018 at 10:08 pm
    Why is music so boring these days?

    No-talent nonentities thinking they are talented?

  173. Crossie

    Winston Smith
    #2895868, posted on December 31, 2018 at 10:08 pm
    Why is music so boring these days?

    Songwriters who think a “hook” is too common?

  174. vlad

    Not being a fan of looking at a watch and screaming at a predetermined time I hereby sign off for 2018.

    May the good times roll.

  175. Bruce in WA

    It’s 7.20pm in Perth, the sun just a willy whisker off the horizon.Sea breeze is in; in fact it has been a pleasant day.

    Except for your idiot correspondent who (a) mishandled some 10 kg whetstone paving blocks and did in his back, and (b) forgot to put on his cap in the garden and has a very red, very sore bonce.

    Nevertheless, we have a Hogmanay to go to tonight. I’m told it’s traditional to take whisky with us, so I will … inside me. That and a couple of nice whites should see us through to midnight. Mrs BiWA not drinking and has volunteered to drive, so I am “Thunderbirds are GO!”

    Happy New Year to you all and to your families, and may 2019 bring to you all the things I know you would wish for others.

  176. Nob

    Winston Smith
    #2895868, posted on December 31, 2018 at 10:08 pm
    Why is music so boring these days?

    Pop music had its moment at the peak of the Boomer youthquake in the 60s.

    It’s all over now.

    My kids are drawn to 60s music because it represents them better than anything on the radio. But who cares?

    The Beatles did all their original stuff in 7 years 1963-70.
    Kids these days are barely getting out of uni at the age The Beatles cut their last record.

    Also there’s far too much free music being pumped out everywhere. Silence is more valuable and kids have found other things to do.

  177. Dave in Marybrook

    I was born in ’77.
    The best recorded music in the history of mankind was roughly 1992-1998.
    The best live gigs anywhere in the world, ever, all happened in a remote corner of a remote continent roughly between 1992 and 1998.
    Anyone you ask will tell you the same, that it was all a-happenin’ when they were raging their way through adolescence.
    It’s a hormone thing.
    Anyone who tells you otherwise is a poseur or a Goth.

  178. Armadillo

    Good Lordy. I go to the pub for a few hours and you lot have turned gay and are singing along to Kiwi music.

  179. P

    My kids are drawn to 60s music because it represents them better than anything on the radio. But who cares?
    The Beatles did all their original stuff in 7 years 1963-70.
    Kids these days are barely getting out of uni at the age The Beatles cut their last record.

    I understand.
    For Christmas I bought my eldest grandson a large book on The Beatles. He is 15yrs old.

  180. Nob

    Memoryvault
    #2895778, posted on December 31, 2018 at 8:05 pm
    Fascinating, Nob.

    There’s a video somewhere of Creedence on tour with Booker T about 1970 where Fogerty sits jamming with Steve Cropper and goes through some of what I posted.

    The rest you can see just by playing the songs.

    Pop musicians now are much more technically accomplished, and there are wall-to-wall instructional videos but the spark of inspiration is just as rare, and anyway, the audience dividend is dwindling because demographics and saturation.

  181. Armadillo

    For Christmas I bought my eldest grandson a large book on The Beatles. He is 15yrs old.

    Granny from hell. Are you trying to get the poor bugger beat up or something? Did you cut his hair after Christmas lunch using the pudding bowl?

  182. Nob

    Anyone you ask will tell you the same, that it was all a-happenin’ when they were raging their way through adolescence.

    No they won’t .

    Kids now are still drawn to 60s music because it was made by people like them,breaking the mould..

    No way when we were their age would we have listened to tracks made 5 years before, let alone 40.

  183. Armadillo

    No way when we were their age would we have listened to tracks made 5 years before, let alone 40.

    Not so sure about that. Ever have the uncomfortable feeling in the car when your parents knew the words to the latest hit?

    Remakes.

  184. Rossini

    Eyrie
    #2895840, posted on December 31, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    Nice one!

  185. Crossie

    Nob
    #2895884, posted on December 31, 2018 at 10:40 pm
    Anyone you ask will tell you the same, that it was all a-happenin’ when they were raging their way through adolescence.

    No they won’t .

    Kids now are still drawn to 60s music because it was made by people like them,breaking the mould..

    No way when we were their age would we have listened to tracks made 5 years before, let alone 40.

    Yes and no. I was born in the late 50s so my adolescence was in the 70s. I adored the 70s music but was drawn to the music of the 50s and the 60s. I noticed the drop off in the 80s and the 90s were even less interesting and very little since then. I have discovered some new music listening to what my grandkids play in the car when they connect their devices and some of it is not bad.

  186. P

    Granny from hell.

    I try Arma, I try and am surprised as we all are that The Beatles have captured him. But, they have a few years back now.
    He’s just returned from the US on Christmas Eve and although I spoke with him on Christmas Day I am yet to find out what it was that he had insisted his father (my son) take him to in regard to the Beatles. He has been several times before to the US with his family.

  187. P

    Granny from hell.

    I try Arma, I try and am surprised as we all are that The Beatles have captured him. But, they have a few years back now.
    He’s just returned from the US on Christmas Eve and although I spoke with him on Christmas Day I am yet to find out what it was that he had insisted his father (my son) take him to in regard to the Beatles. He has been several times before to the US with his family.

  188. Dave in Marybrook

    Sheesh, hasn’t anyone been to a revelatory rock show?
    It’s like saying the funniest person you know is The Naked Vicar, and citing a thirty year old t.v. show as proof.
    Get out. There’s music everywhere and kids breaking their little hearts out to show it. It’s all derivative, just like everyone from Stig of the Dump to Bach to the Beatles to Buggles, and C.D. shops are full of crap that I can’t connect with but is dearly held treasure to someone somewhere.
    I’d never waste time trying to convince anyone that only I’m right, only I have taste and perception and an objective perspective on musical “progress” and Tim Rogers is an angel sent to us groundlings, and I’d never begrudge anyone who listens to nothing but the Beatles because they think that they are the be all and end all and final word upon the human mystery.

  189. Steve trickler

    This would be a sensational finale choreographed to Sydney NYE Fireworks. All 4:54 in the six million dollar show. Vision projected on the Opera House.

    Everyone knows these lyrics.



    Happy New Year.

  190. DrBeauGan

    Yes, but back in the old days you only got to see blokes playing guitars. You didn’t get to see lady gaga and Britney spears masturbating. It’s all in the visuals.

  191. Rossini

    Armadillo
    #2895883, posted on December 31, 2018 at 10:38 pm
    Did you cut his hair after Christmas lunch using the pudding bowl?
    Was at Northland shopping center on Sunday and a very young boy walked by with a”bowl cut”.
    Bought back distant memories! As did your inane comment.

  192. Twostix

    The 70’s were shit and only about 20 bands out of tens of thousands from the time have survived.

  193. DrBeauGan

    Yes, but back in the old days you only got to see blokes playing guitars. You didn’t get to see lady gaga and Britney spears masterb ating. It’s all in the visuals.

  194. Armadillo

    I am yet to find out what it was that he had insisted his father (my son) take him to in regard to the Beatles.

    Probably pot or cocaine.

  195. Twostix

    And the behaviour of boomers in public was disgraceful.

    You should have all been locked up in an institution.

  196. Crossie

    I’d never waste time trying to convince anyone that only I’m right, only I have taste and perception and an objective perspective on musical “progress” and Tim Rogers is an angel sent to us groundlings, and I’d never begrudge anyone who listens to nothing but the Beatles because they think that they are the be all and end all and final word upon the human mystery.

    True though there are some pieces of music that are just sublime and have achieved worldwide admiration. The style of music tagged as classical is just a genre and most of it does not deserve that designation. Classical should be the best of any age. In my estimation The Pipeline should have equal standing with Beethoven’s Fifth.

  197. Crossie

    Probably pot or cocaine.
    Twostix
    #2895901, posted on December 31, 2018 at 11:08 pm
    And the behaviour of boomers in public was disgraceful.

    You should have all been locked up in an institution.

    A lot of what is ascribed to baby boomers was committed by a relatively small number of middle class and rich kids, the rest of us were quite prim and proper and conservative. The elite behaved badly in every age and do so today.

  198. P

    You didn’t get to see lady gaga

    She doesn’t do a bad rendition here:

  199. Crossie

    You didn’t get to see lady gaga

    She doesn’t do a bad rendition here:

    I almost expected her to walk out in the steak dress. Granted she is a good singer and I like some of her stuff but outlandish gimmicks do tend to typecast artists.

  200. Armadillo

    the rest of us were quite prim and proper and conservative

    I’m not buying it.

  201. Peter

    Watching NYE with Paul Murray on Sky. Because it is not the ALPBC.

  202. jupes

    There’s music everywhere and kids breaking their little hearts out to show it

    Sure. There is a some kind of ‘music’ event on my lawn at the minute. There are three stages within the 500 meter length of the contained area. Get this, all three stages are playing simultaneously! From my vantage point I can hear all three.

    The so-called ‘music’ sounds like something I’d expect to hear on a two year old’s tv program. Just a beat with some spasmodic noise. That’s why the (over 18 yr old) kids don’t care that they can hear the ‘music’ from the other stages. It’s just noise. These idiots wouldn’t know decent music if it bit them on the arse.

    It is obviously what Tim Blair described as a drug festival with some music.

  203. Memoryvault

    You should have all been locked up in an institution.

    We were. It was called “work”.
    You youngies should try it some time.

  204. jupes

    The 70’s were shit and only about 20 bands out of tens of thousands from the time have survived.

    Yeah nah. 97% of the greatest albums were produced between 1965 and 1975.

  205. Crossie

    Armadillo
    #2895910, posted on December 31, 2018 at 11:18 pm
    the rest of us were quite prim and proper and conservative

    I’m not buying it.

    True, I’m a Catholic so the biggest thing in the 60s was no longer having to respond in Latin at Mass.

  206. Crossie

    jupes
    #2895921, posted on December 31, 2018 at 11:42 pm
    The 70’s were shit and only about 20 bands out of tens of thousands from the time have survived.

    Yeah nah. 97% of the greatest albums were produced between 1965 and 1975.

    Exactly. Why else would they be issuing them again – in vinyl?

  207. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wot jupes said.

  208. Memoryvault

    Yeah nah. 97% of the greatest albums were produced between 1965 and 1975.

    In 2005 the Rolling Stones did a world tour.
    Sang their songs from the 60’s and early 70’s.
    They were all in their 60’s.
    They grossed $328 million USD.

    The defence rests.

  209. Nob

    Dave in Marybrook
    #2895893, posted on December 31, 2018 at 11:00 pm

    Get out. There’s music everywhere

    That’s a problem in itself. It’s not a release from anything anymore.
    In fact you can’t escape it. It’s oppressive.

  210. Confused Old Misfit

    Happy New Year Easterners!

  211. Crossie

    madillo
    #2895927, posted on December 31, 2018 at 11:55 pm
    Dominus vobiscum

    Et cum spiritu tuo.

  212. Mark A

    Armadillo
    #2895927, posted on December 31, 2018 at 11:55 pm

    Dominus vobiscum

    Et cum spiritu tuo.

  213. Memoryvault

    Happy New Year Easterners!

    Only for you youngies who need to put your clocks forward, so you don’t stay up too late.
    Can’t miss that beauty sleep.

  214. Armadillo

    Happy New Year Easterners!

    Almost 10 minutes in. The fridge is full. Not to sure if it’s a good omen or a bad one. Time will tell.

  215. Armadillo

    Mrs A just listening to the Pol scanner. Break ins everywhere.

  216. Crossie

    Happy New Year! Now I can drink and if I fall asleep, no proble,.

    Now that the fireworks are over I can critique them:

    1. Fireworks 7/10, music 1/10. Mournful dirges when you needed magnificent rising sounds, like Bombora by The Atlantics.

    2. OK, it was a Big Bang with lots of red. Were they going for the Waratah theme?

    3. Music once more, mostly modern crap particularly after I defended them tonight and said there was some good stuff in contemporary music. What can you expect when Clover Moore is in charge?

  217. jupes

    Happy New Year Easterners.

    Though you do realise it is a fake one due to daylight saving don’t you?

    NSW and Victoria #fakenewyear

  218. Armadillo

    Wrong link. Local one is down at the minute. For those interested, you can actually track all the “call outs” on a local level.

    Google is your friend.

  219. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bullied pilot asks Pyne for discharge

    exclusive
    By Rory Callinan
    29 minutes ago January 1, 2019
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    An elite Australian fighter jet pilot allegedly bullied and ­branded a “sex pest” during a sensitive training mission in the US has pleaded with Defence Minister Christopher Pyne for a discharge.

    The pilot, who has an obligation to serve until 2024, wrote to Mr Pyne saying his mental health would deteriorate if he were forced to continue in the Australian Defence Force — an assessment that has been confirmed by psychology reports.

    However, the ADF has so far refused to grant the pilot his wish, despite an internal investigation finding he had been harassed. He has instead been transferred to a desk job in another squadron.

    The scandal involved the Queensland-based No 6 Squadron, which flies Growler aircraft, with pilots each required to undergo training costing $1.5 million to fly the electronic warfare jets.

    The incidents started while the group was deployed to the US for Exercise Red Flag a year ago.

    From the Oz. F.F.S.

  220. Crossie

    Google is your friend.

    Are you sure?

  221. Memoryvault

    For those of you who don’t know, we are in a granny flat next to number 1 son and family.
    There is a riotous party going on next door.
    It’s not my son and daughter in law.
    It’s their kids.

    Granddaughter, typical 15 year old.
    Grandson 12, going on 30.
    Pool is full of 15 – 16 year old girls.
    Grandson is centre of attention.

    I don’t know how he does it, but if I could bottle it I’d make millions.

  222. Infidel Tiger

    Gay pilot wants discharge from Pyne.

    Should t be hard to organise.

  223. zyconoclast

    http://www.livepolice.info

    Sad.

    opens the link to find: Uniden UBCD396T

    Is this is the 2019 version of Unisex LGBTQI?

  224. Crossie

    The scandal involved the Queensland-based No 6 Squadron, which flies Growler aircraft, with pilots each required to undergo training costing $1.5 million to fly the electronic warfare jets.

    The incidents started while the group was deployed to the US for Exercise Red Flag a year ago.

    Let me guess, he wants out now that $1.5 million has already been spent? Did he pass?

  225. Nick

    Gay pilot wants discharge from Pyne.
    Should t be hard to organise.

    Lol. Something involving a cockpit no doubt.

  226. jupes

    An elite Australian fighter jet pilot allegedly bullied and ­branded a “sex pest” during a sensitive training mission in the US has pleaded with Defence Minister Christopher Pyne for a discharge.

    The pilot, who has an obligation to serve until 2024, wrote to Mr Pyne saying his mental health would deteriorate if he were forced to continue in the Australian Defence Force — an assessment that has been confirmed by psychology reports.

    Hey let’s allow gays and women to serve in the ADF.

    What could possibly go wrong?

  227. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bullied pilot asks Pyne for discharge

    I hope that whoever sat on the selection board that recommended him as a candidate for aircrew has the grace to resign in shame. Sir can’t handle being picked on.

  228. P

    Memoryvault
    #2895954, posted on January 1, 2019 at 12:34 am

    My two eldest grandchildren are 15yr old twins. They both returned with their father (my son) from the US on Christmas Eve. My granddaughter had been in Indiana as an exchange student for five months and her brother and my son went to the US to pick her up ad bring her home.

    It’s been a great Christmas for us and I’m truly grateful for my grandchildren.

  229. Steve trickler

    Street life filmed on the perfect day, in a galaxy far far away.



  230. Memoryvault

    It’s been a great Christmas for us and I’m truly grateful for my grandchildren.

    Good for you Mrs P. I know the feeling.

  231. Memoryvault

    It must be midnight – the whole street just exploded.
    Happy New Year everybody.

    (Apart from the Southerners, who’ve already gone to bed. No staying power.)

  232. Crossie

    All evening Paul Murray and other reporters were touting this new you-beaut super firework they got from Japan via China that was going to be unveiled (exploded) in Brisbane tonight. I must have blinked and missed it.

  233. Infidel Tiger
    #2895955, posted on January 1, 2019 at 12:34 am
    Gay pilot wants discharge from Pyne.
    Should t be hard to organise.

    FFS. 34 minutes into 2019 and IT has already won the interwebs for this year.

  234. Memoryvault

    FFS. 34 minutes into 2019 and IT has already won the interwebs for this year.

    No surprise, Mr Rusty.
    It’s his mojo.

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