Tuesday Forum: January 1, 2019

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  1. Nob

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    #2897481, posted on January 3, 2019 at 9:01 am
    Preparing for his 2020 run.

    Flake news.

  2. OldOzzie

    Risks to border protection in a vital election year

    The Morrison government’s decision to close the Maribyrnong detention facility in Melbourne, and the earlier announcement that the Blaxland detention centre in Sydney’s Villawood will close later this year, is vindication of its border protection policies. These measures, including offshore processing of refugees and boat turnbacks, have made Australia more secure and saved the lives of perhaps thousands who otherwise would have drowned making the journey across treacherous waters to seek asylum. That these two local facilities are emptying should be welcomed by voters. The Maribyrnong Immigration Detention Centre has closed and its 107 occupants have been moved to other facilities. The Blaxland compound in the Villawood Immigration Detention Centre will shut by mid-year, with about 100 detainees also being relocated to other centres. The closure of these and other facilities has saved the taxpayer more than $500 million since 2013.

    Immigration Minister David Coleman is understandably pleased with the decision to close the facilities and he says it is evidence that the Coalition government’s policies have worked. There is no denying this. When Labor was previously in government, from 2007 to 2013, about 50,000 asylum-seekers arrived in Australia on 800 boats. Australia’s borders became hostage to people-smugglers plying their evil trade of accepting large sums of money for the promise of a new life. Sadly, indeed tragically, about 1200 asylum-seekers lost their lives at sea. By mid-2013, local detention facilities were bursting with more than 10,000 asylum-seekers. The system was so overrun that 17 new centres were opened by the Labor government, bringing the total to 26. There are now eight detention centres in Australia.

    This is a shameful record. The dismantling of the border protection regime introduced by John Howard’s government must rank as one of the worst decisions taken by any government in Australian history. Kevin Rudd must shoulder this burden heavily. About 1000 people remain in offshore detention facilities on Manus Island and Nauru. A further 1250 people who arrived by boat in 2013 or earlier, overstayed their visas or had their visas cancelled for character reasons are in Australian facilities.

    There has been a campaign against the Coalition for keeping children in detention facilities. Yet today there are only seven children located at Nauru and four are expected to be moved to the US this year. Overall, under Labor, there were 8000 children in detention centres. It is telling that Julia Gillard and then Mr Rudd, after returning to the prime ministership, understood their failure and tried to remedy it with new border policies before being voted out of office.

    It is not surprising Britain is looking at how the Coalition dealt with the crisis of border protection bequeathed to it by Labor.

  3. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2897489, posted on January 3, 2019 at 9:14 am

    Handbags and Gladrag

    An Old Raincoat Won’t Ever Let You Down

  4. Rossini

    Memoryvault
    #2897382, posted on January 2, 2019 at 11:27 pm
    Thanks for the link……… He is a funny person ……..unlike those ‘dykes’ who wouldn’t know
    what the meaning of funny is!

  5. stackja

    OldOzzie
    #2897494, posted on January 3, 2019 at 9:23 am

    People smugglers will use Dreamliners when BS opens the borders.

  6. John Constantine

    The Tyrant for life of all the chicoms can profit from a diaspora where healthcare for elderly party faithful can be provided by Australia’s debt, at first world standards at no cost to the party.

    Castro emptied his jails, the Tyrant is emptying his retirement unfunded liabilities.

  7. C.L.

    #ShoutYourAbortion founder announces new children’s book about having an abortion … Publicity campaign features her being interviewed by little children asking about her abortion.
    The video is called “Kids Meet Someone Who Has Had an Abortion.”

    The activist also attempted to convince a young girl that getting an abortion is like a “crappy dentist appointment.”

    “You go to the doctor and they put this little straw inside of your cervix, and then inside of your uterus and they just suck the pregnancy out. It was like a crappy dentist appointment or something. It was just like, blah — a body thing that was kind of uncomfortable but then it was over and I felt really just grateful that I wasn’t pregnant anymore.”

    Bonow also complained about the pro-life movement to the children, implying that it is just white males who want to protect the unborn.

    In other left-wing child abuse developments …

    Year Three students will be given ‘ethnic clothes’ to try on and boys will be encouraged to ‘explore gender’ by wearing girls’ dresses under new school program.

    Boys and girls in year three will be encouraged to explore different gender roles in class and wear ethnic clothing as part of a controversial new program.

    The fresh syllabus, which has the backing of the McGowan Government in Western Australia, will be introduced to a handful of Perth schools from term one in February.

    Students will be provided with a range of dress ups and toys and will also learn about different kinds of ethnic dress such as burkas, traditionally worn by women of Islamic faith.

    Finally, SBS is currently advertising a new fictional series called Butterfly about a boy who “becomes” a “girl”.

  8. Black Ball

    Just with this shutdown in the US, what actual parts of the government is not working? The politicians themselves I gather are haggling over funding for border wall construction. I’d hazard a guess and suggest that the law enforcement agencies would still be working, so is this all political theatre?
    Just as an aside, 5 billion for a wall is not going to end the world considering the last shutdown I think was for 900billion for the omnibus bill? Or Obamacare or whatever it was. Most interested in hearing more thoughts from contributors here.

  9. Old School Conservative

    Any sign of an announcement of our cricket team for today’s Test?
    I hope the players know – the fans don’t.

  10. Old School Conservative

    Just with this shutdown in the US, what actual parts of the government is not working?

    No rubbish bin emptying in National Parks.

  11. stackja

    Black Ball
    #2897502, posted on January 3, 2019 at 9:37 am

    US govt shutdowns. Answers to 15 questions
    Posted on 6:02 pm, January 2, 2019 by Rafe Champion
    A bit of briefing on the situation in the US.
    All care but no responsibility taken for the quality of the information:)

    3. What parts of the federal government are affected by the shutdown?
    Several government agencies were already funded for fiscal year 2019. But another funding bill was needed to cover several agencies for about seven weeks. Nine out of 15 federal departments, dozens of agencies, and several programs will be closed or reduce operations:

    Department of Commerce
    Department of Homeland Security
    Department of Housing and Urban Development
    Department of Interior
    Department of Justice
    Department of State
    Department of Transportation
    Environment Protection Agency (EPA)
    Federal Drug Administration (FDA)
    United States Department of Agriculture (USDA)
    Programs related to science, financial services, and other agencies
    The National Flood Insurance Program
    The Violence Against Women Act
    The Pesticide Registration Improvement Act
    Temporary Assistance for Needy Families
    Immigration extensions (EB-5, E-Verify, Conrad 30 program for international medical school graduates, Special Immigrant Religious Workers program, and H2B returning worker authority for DHS)
    The Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards Act
    Two expiring provisions of the Pandemic All-Hazards Preparedness Act
    Medicaid Money-Follows-the-Person and Spousal Impoverishment, through March 31
    4. Will federal law enforcement be affected?
    According to the Senate Appropriations Committee, more than 41,000 federal law enforcement and correctional officers will be affected, including:

    2,614 ATF agents
    16,742 Bureau of Prisons correctional officers
    13,709 FBI agents
    3,600 deputy US Marshals
    4,399 DEA agents
    54,000 Customs and Border Protection agents and customs officers
    42,000 Coast Guard employees

  12. Bruce in WA

    The AUD has crashed to US68.5c?? Really? WTF!!

  13. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ultima bowls.

    NASA: Icy object past Pluto looks like reddish snowman

    Scientist Jeff Moore of NASA’s Ames Research Center said the two spheres formed when small, icy pieces coalesced in space billions of years ago. Then the spheres slowly spiraled closer to each other and stuck together.

    God wins this end, I think, although NASA’s drive shot is a very close miss.

  14. Snoopy

    Year Three students will be given ‘ethnic clothes’ to try on and boys will be encouraged to ‘explore gender’ by wearing girls’ dresses under new school program.

    The fresh syllabus, which has the backing of the McGowan Government in Western Australia, will be introduced to a handful of Perth schools from term one in February.

    And some WA Cats have the hide to be critical of Sydney’s embrace of sodomy.

  15. Makka

    The AUD has crashed to US68.5c?? Really? WTF!!

    The arse just fell out of it. Took out the 2016 low as well. Next significant level is the 2008 low.

    Big move.

  16. Tom

    The AUD has crashed to US68.5c?? Really? WTF!!

    It’s still way overvalued for a country whose real economy is in recession and its only growth is coming from ballooning state and federal government spending.

    About $US0.50 should do it.

  17. Makka

    India to bat first after winning the toss. The Ch7 commentators are putting on a brave face.

  18. Black Ball

    Marnus and Handscomb in to replace Finch and Mitch

  19. cohenite

    Sorry, I know about the rule about cutting and pasting whole articles but it’s paywalled and BJ hits the stupid nail right on the head:

    Chaos is just a vote away

    Barnaby Joyce The Australian January 3, 2019

    The new year is going to change our nation. This may be a trite, repetitious warning, but this time it is going to happen. We have ­arrived at the space where indoctrination has beaten logic.

    We want an economy that has no baseload power but does have cheap power.

    We export uranium but ­refuse to use it.

    We make little to nothing, but close down export markets such as the live sheep trade.

    We have a lower standard of education than Singapore but believe Asian markets will want the services of Sydney.

    The Greens want to jail people who export thermal coal.

    It won’t work, guys. You are going to get smashed.

    Poll after poll predicts we will vote in a Greens-Labor-independent government that is promising payments from an economy they are closing down, so the only other place to get money for their promises is your savings. If you want their nirvana then find yourself an excellent accountant. You will need one.

    If you believe Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane are congested — well, suck it up, because more people from God knows what country are on their way. They will come because they want to and under the circumstances they choose.

    Don’t dare say the words “son” or “daughter” — they are now to be neuter people.

    The right of the objecting individual will reign supreme over the complacent, polite broader body.

    The Greens-Labor-independent alliance has its philosophical totem which it enforces by guilt to place more caveats over your assets and more impositions over your income streams.

    You have already fallen for it.

    You stood by and let farmers be dispossessed of their vegetation rights because of global warming.

    You must buy power only from the prescribed source because of global warming.

    You will buy cars of their prescription because of global warming.

    You will not eat meat because of global warming.

    You fell for it, sucker! Just keep handing over your sovereignty.

    I know, you don’t want to be involved, because it is kind of awkward and impolite. That is not a problem for the far Left, which is running to the election and not having to fire a shot before they take you to the new world of the Teachers Federation and the Construction Forestry Maritime Mining and Energy Union.

    As noted in my book Weatherboard and Iron, this may be a bitter dirge but it is one that is going to be sung to you in six months.

    The Labor Party will play the quiet game. It is too cunning to be led to a hostile battlefield when it can shoot us in a clear field from its own forest.

    I live in a rented house but you don’t. No brother, you are going to pay because when they get their money out of your house by taking away your buyers because of the loss of negative gearing, it will be your problem and nobody else’s.

    And remember, they don’t believe it is morally right that you have that wealth.

    This election is not about Malcolm or Morrison or Mother Teresa leading the government.

    It’s whether you will have a left-wing socialist government or a conservative government — a government which believes that if you work hard and earn money, it should be protected. Or a government that thinks your money should pay for its promises for its mates’ utopia.

    Barnaby Joyce is the Nationals member for New England.

  20. Black Ball

    And thank you stackja, will have a proper read in good time.

  21. calli

    You go to the doctor and they put this little straw inside of your cervix, and then inside of your uterus and they just suck the pregnancy baby out

    I do hope it comes with pretty pictures of the dismembered baby.

    We can’t lie to kiddies now, can we? That would be wicked.

  22. Roger

    You stood by and let farmers be dispossessed of their vegetation rights because of global warming.

    That was Howard & Kemp, Barnaby, not “us”.

    And it goes a long way to explaining why the Liberals are now not an electoral option for conservatives.

    In fact, just about every national woe you list began under Howard.

  23. thefrollickingmole

    calli

    I expect more outrage about the use of the word “straw” (it could be plastic!!!) than the killing of the bub.

  24. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Greens-Labor-independent-Liberal-National alliance has its philosophical totem which it enforces by guilt to place more caveats over your assets and more impositions over your income streams.

    Corrected it for Barnaby.

  25. John Constantine

    The floating exchange rate is an effective lie detector.

    “No worries” promises their shorten looting cartel, the aussie economy is as strong as a spoken non core undertaking by shorten on behalf of the one party State.

    We no longer have to budget on taxing profit, we can tax turnover and legacy asset values and inherited wealth and pale stale superannuation.

    Sitting compliant and complacent while the smart and mobile money gets out of Dodge, Is Our Strength.

  26. Myrddin Seren

    Bananaby

    You will buy cars of their prescription because of global warming.

    Electric cars will be rationed to the Elites – like any socialist economy. But meh.

    It’s whether you will have a left-wing socialist government or a conservative government — a government which believes that if you work hard and earn money, it should be protected. Or a government that thinks your money should pay for its promises for its mates’ utopia.

    Put the bong down Barns……

  27. In USD terms that is a quick adjustment to AU real estate prices.
    More adjusting to do.

  28. areff

    About $US0.50 should do it.

    Been holding off repatriating some US assets. Don’t think it will hit 50 cents (but who knows), but I’ll be sitting tight until it nudges 60 cents, which it will sure as eggs.

  29. thefrollickingmole

    Roger

    Good point, it was Howard who used the “special powers” to confiscate land without compensation from farmers to appease Gaia.

    Tell me another fairy story about “conservatives”

  30. Myrddin Seren

    Bruce

    Former council worker Michael Woodfield was inspired to start collecting after watching the film Zulu, starring Michael Caine, as a young boy and being struck by the bravery on both sides.

    ‘Zulu’ sits on a DVD at the bottom of the cupboard.

    No matter director/writer Cy Endfield’s balanced vision for the story, I have no doubt ‘Zulu’ will be scrubbed from broadcast and streaming services as popular culture is ‘de-colonised’.

    I suggest fans of other film classics which will be deemed ‘problematic’ by The Woke hit the sales and grab copies of their favourites. I figure ‘Gone with the Wind’ will be gone with The Woke.

  31. Infidel Tiger

    All those foreign dog box owners just got another major haircut!

  32. Infidel Tiger

    India to bat first after winning the toss. The Ch7 commentators are putting on a brave face.

    Our national malaise is so bad that we have selected a man who averages 23 as our number 3 batsman rather than Glenn Maxwell.

  33. John Constantine

    Is alex turnbullites paying for his Utopia with his own money?.

    Is stabby mcstabbyface bishop, is redfilth gillard, is the hideous rudd family, is hawke, is keating?.

    When it comes to paying for their dreams, australias elites consider everything to be their money.

    Comrade Bastaaaaaaaaards.

  34. Roger

    Promising first over from Starc.

  35. thefrollickingmole

    Shocked I am, imagine a bunch of head hacking fasnatics being less than scrupulously honest, or UN aid being diverted to help lengthen a war by supplying fighters…

    Yemen: Houthi rebels’ food aid theft only tip of iceberg, officials say
    Questions over relief effort multiply as it emerges aid officials knew for months of armed groups diverting food

    It has emerged that aid officials have been aware for months that armed groups – most prominently Houthi rebels in the capital, Sana’a – have been diverting food aid into the key areas they control, including by manipulating data in malnutrition surveys used by the UN.

    Officials concede that difficulties with access to many areas in Yemen under Houthi control, and aid agencies’ reliance on Houthi officials to collect much of the hunger data, have left them vulnerable to falsification.

    “For now, we cannot confirm the exact amount of relief food that is being diverted in Yemen. Our monitoring – by WFP personnel and by third-party monitors – is as rigorous as possible in the circumstances, but we have not been permitted to implement an accountable beneficiary selection process in Houthi-controlled areas.”

    Congratulations, you are enabling a war to continue by supplying the fighters at the expense of the civilians.

  36. OldOzzie

    cohenite
    #2897513, posted on January 3, 2019 at 10:11 am
    Sorry, I know about the rule about cutting and pasting whole articles but it’s paywalled and BJ hits the stupid nail right on the head:

    Chaos is just a vote away

    Barnaby Joyce The Australian January 3, 2019

    Thanjs cohenite

    Barnaby Joyce nailed the future under Labor/Greens – the Young, as well as ourselves are stuffed – only good news is AUD should go to USD 0.50

  37. Herodotus

    According to a report in The Australian, a certain trade union official was arrested and charged with a court order offence. He reportedly said that the political and ideological attacks on him as a trade union leader had put him and his family under stress.
    The words, actions and stress is all going in one direction, apparently. All incoming, no outgoing.

  38. jupes

    Hazelwood!

    Good start by the Aussies.

  39. Roger

    Pujara sets up just the way I was taught back in the day. Old school.

  40. Mother Lode

    The language of road toll implies that there’s a price that we’re happy to pay,” he told ABC Radio Melbourne’s Meshel Laurie.

    This is another application of the ‘Nanny’ paradigm.

    Any intrusion can be rendered unassailable by citing loss of life.

    Pool fences in homes where there no children; the steady ratcheting down of speed limits, the blocking, speed humps and chicanes turning roads into obstacle courses, and ‘school zones’; bicycle helmets; removing the toys in playgrounds etc.

    It is always only one side of the balance – that a behaviour can result in a death – and never weighing any sort of benefit – why people took the risk in the first place. Enjoyment or convenience for millions cannot be accepted if it might cost a life or cause an injury.

    Who wants to be the one to say “I am prepared for someone else’s life to be put at risk for my convenience”?

    I suspect it works in part through he disjoint between people’s conception of themselves and the abstract collective – they can grasp their own sense of responsibility but think they are not allowed to impose on the collective, even though that collective is made up of other individuals.

    It has led increasingly to generations that have lost their ability to make their own decisions but begging for direction, who cannot accept consequences but expect the government to remedy and compensate them: no longer individual agents but eternal victims.

    They do not need to be persuaded of reasons for regulation. They are grateful for it.

    The eventual logical outcome of removing risk is being denied the right to do anything since just about everything has risk, such as driving a car or having electrical appliances in the kitchen, etc.

    But the political outcome, the real driving force, is more power for those who would control our lives.

    They are going gangbusters.

  41. Myrddin Seren

    A singular reply to cohenite @ 7:21 pm ( I got kicked off the computer )

    So, Trump is going to cop an even bigger hiding in the next 2 years than he has already copped. Is that possible?

    Unless she has some immunity by dint of marriage to POTUS, I bet there is a good chance the D-Rats will subpoena FLOTUS.

    Possibly with a lead-in about Wussia, Wussia – but then they will go the knife about Floozygate.

    The want Trump’s tax records, I also wouldn’t be surprised if they try for the pre-nup between Don and Melania – just to make sure Vlad Putin wasn’t one of the witnesses ( /sarc ).

    Can’t be too careful in #TheResistance.

    Nothing is off the table.

  42. John Constantine

    https://iwatchmarkets.com/prana-biotechnology-pran-stock-flying-on-strategic-investment/1204/

    PBT, the asx listed age releated degeneration biopunt goes for a run, on money flowing in, not research success. Have held quite a few in the good old days, but only a hatfull in a drawer now.

    As the aussie falls, gold producers and near term gold producers may well come under north american buyout consideration. Broke aussie biotechs may look cheap as the aussie dollar searches for believers in the Ponzi importation of millions of the worlds poorest people to consume the worlds dearest services, debtfunded.

  43. Roger

    Our national malaise is so bad that we have selected a man who averages 23 as our number 3 batsman rather than Glenn Maxwell.

    33.

    On top of that, Marnus has more appeal to Langer’s daughters than Maxwell.

  44. struth

    It’s whether you will have a left-wing socialist government or a conservative government — a government which believes that if you work hard and earn money, it should be protected. Or a government that thinks your money should pay for its promises for its mates’ utopia.

    Oh dear.
    WHAT CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT.

    With conservative friends like that, who needs enemies?

    Again we see all the signs in our economy that proves GDP, while including government spend, is a socialist’s measuring stick for the economy.

    From what I can see, and have said all along, from travelling around, and the lack of work in transport, my observation is economically, we are technically speaking ROOTED.

    It’s only government spend that has anything happening at all.

    We are so screwed Barnaby, it’s insanely ignorant of you to suggest the Liberal/ National government are anything but socialist as well.
    Please name one conservative thing they have done?

    Stopping boats, that at least killed a few before they got here, is great so you now fly them in on taxpayers dime?
    Please, I’d like to see one example of conservative government.

  45. EvilElvis

    And some WA Cats have the hide to be critical of Sydney’s embrace of sodomy.

    Oh, Snoopy. We’re behind you. But not far behind. Getting closer. And coming fast! Mmmmmmm…

  46. Myrddin Seren

    FMD – the ghost of John McCain walks the Senate:

    Mitt Romney ’not sure’ who to endorse for White House in 2020

    Mitt Romney has once more launched a broadside at Donald Trump, saying he’s not sure who to endorse for the White House in 2020.

    The incoming Senator, who published a scathing op-ed targeting Mr Trump yesterday, told CNN he would consider “the alternatives” to Mr Trump, whose presidency he said was falling short.

    The 2012 Republican presidential candidate wrote in the Washington Post on Wednesday that Mr Trump “has not risen to the mantle of the office” and his actions have alienated America’s allies.

    Concerning the endorsement, Mr Romney said: “I think it’s early to make that decision and I want to see what the alternatives are.”

  47. Myrddin Seren

    Pelosi puts Elijah Cummings into specific oversight role. Cummings now responsible for new and narrow specific White House oversight. (page 2) “Special Oversight Over White House” {setting stage for impeachment hearings]

    As noted Pelosi creates new legal power of House Legal Counsel (Douglas Letter) to oppose U.S. Department of Justice; and spend, without limits, for outside legal representation to oppose legal position of DOJ on healthcare.

    In essence, Speaker Pelosi is setting up a secondary Legislative Branch department of justice specifically for use by House of Reps. to oppose the Executive Branch Dept. of Justice.

  48. stackja

    How many more certified tower units await detection?

  49. C.L.

    Still in the AM and we’re already doing cricket and Captain & Tennille clips.

  50. struth

    What we’ve decided in Victoria and around the nation, and in fact around the world, is that actually zero is the number that we should be aiming for.

    The whole state?
    Or just a couple of self important wankers?

    Let’s see if it works .

    Socialism has killed millions and left millions in misery and starvation.
    What we’ve decided in Australia and around the world is that zero tolerance is what we should be aiming for.
    Zero deaths from socialism is what the entire nation has decided.

  51. EvilElvis

    Still loving the fact that so many contributors mistake Liberals for conservatives, Groundhog Day, 2019.

  52. C.L.

    Why it’s called Boxing Day:

    Union chief John Setka has responded to reports he has been charged over an incident at his home in Melbourne’s west on Boxing Day.

    Police were called to a home in West Footscray on Boxing Day following reports of an argument.

    Victoria Police said a 54-year-old man was arrested and charged with a court order offence, and was released on bail to appear at the Melbourne Magistrates Court next week.

  53. P

    Captain & Tennille clips.

    R.I.P Captain

  54. OldOzzie

    New Documents Suggest The Steele Dossier Was A Deliberate Setup For Trump

    After nearly two years since the Steele dossier was published, it remains the cornerstone of the case for collusion. The dossier model has also given rise to similar operations.
    Lee Smith
    By Lee Smith
    January 2, 2019

    A trove of recently released documents sheds further light on the scope and logistics of the information operation designed to sabotage an American election. Players include the press, political operatives from both parties, and law enforcement and intelligence officials. Their instrument was the Steele dossier, first introduced to the American public two years ago.

    A collection of reports compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele, the dossier is now engraved in contemporary U.S. history. First marketed as bedrock evidence that Donald Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election, the dossier’s legitimacy took a hit after reports showed the Hillary Clinton campaign paid for the work.

    The revelation that the dossier was used to secure a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page compromised the integrity of the investigation the FBI had opened on Page and three other Trump associates by the end of July 2016. Nonetheless, that same probe continues today as the special counsel investigation.

    The dossier plays a central role in Robert Mueller’s probe. In the unredacted portions of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s memo outlining Mueller’s scope are allegations that Trump adviser Paul Manafort colluded with Russian government officials interfering in the 2016 race. That claim is found in no other known document but the dossier. It is unclear whether further dossier allegations are in the redacted portions of the scope memo.

    Further, with Mueller in charge, the dossier-won warrant on Page was renewed a third, and final, time in June 2017. It expired in September, when confidential human source Stefan Halper reportedly broke off regular communications with Page.

    A Long and Interesting Article

  55. RobK

    I like much of Barnaby’s words, especially the land grab bit, as I paid dearly with that….it was under the coalition government. He (or anyone else) is going to have to spell out their intent in policy. Neither side has a track record to stand as testament to attract votes.
    I will take a lot more convincing.

  56. H B Bear

    The floating exchange rate is an effective lie detector.

    All Australian recessions begin with international capital markets.

  57. OldOzzie

    Spectator US – The shutdown proves how redundant a lot of the government is

    For all of the breathless commentary from Beltway media, the reality is that the federal government can’t even shut itself down properly

  58. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yemen: Houthi rebels’ food aid theft only tip of iceberg, officials say

    In one end, out the other.

    Mystery of Yemen cholera epidemic solved (2 Jan)

    The most likely source of the cholera epidemic in Yemen has been discovered by scientists. Through the use of genomic sequencing, scientists at the Wellcome Sanger Institute and Institut Pasteur estimate the strain of cholera causing the current outbreak in Yemen—the worst cholera outbreak in recorded history—came from Eastern Africa and entered Yemen with the migration of people in and out of the region.

    That could well be the same Eastern Africa where Saudi has been getting their mercenaries from.

  59. Bruce in WA

    no longer individual agents but eternal victims

    Mrs BiWA and I were discussing this just yesterday. There has always been a dichotomy in the way people view the circumstances of their own life.

    On the one hand we have those who see themselves as their “agents of change”. That is, they are responsible for their own lives: “Yeah, got a ticket for speeding yesterday. Stupid me, I wasn’t paying enough attention”.

    Then there are those who believe they are being acted upon by outside forces. That is, they are powerless to direct their own lives: “Yeah, got a ticket for speeding yesterday. Some young arsehole was sitting right up my arse, forcing me to speed up. Of course, coppers only picked me!”

    We both agreed that society as a whole seems to be moving more and more towards the latter type. Responsibility for one’s own actions is no longer taught or, indeed, even accepted. It is always someone else’s fault/choice/actions. “I’d love to go on a cruise, but I haven’t got the money. It’s all right for you, you were luckier than I was. Every bastard was out to get me every inch of the way!” Um, no, you chose to buy the expensive new car/house instead. It was your choice, no-one else’s.

    I can’t see this attitude turning around anytime soon — if ever. But as a society, we’re worse off for this way of thinking.

  60. stackja

    ALP has never explained the 1940s spy scandal. How many AIF died because the Japanese knew allies plans? And Stalin prolonged WWII.

  61. OldOzzie

    OldOzzie
    #2897558, posted on January 3, 2019 at 11:09 am
    Spectator US – The shutdown proves how redundant a lot of the government is

    Top Quote

    1. Propose the permanent shuttering of non-essential cabinet level departments. Closing the Department of Energy would save $32.5 billion, Department of Commerce, $61.8 billion, and the Department of Education, $59.9 billion. These are not new or radical ideas for Republicans. Reagan tried to close the Department of Education in 1981.

    Are they really non-essential? In a word, yes. But let me put it in perspective with a few questions: The Department of Education was created in 1979. Does anyone believe that American education has improved since then? Does anyone think American commerce would cease if the department were closed?

    Could also apply to shutting down completely the Australia Federal Dept of Education

  62. H B Bear

    How many more certified tower units await detection?

    That is the question. Who will buy a Ponzi dog box if you are required to do detailed due diligence on the whole development? Can it even be done? How will the banks react to this?

  63. Memoryvault

    Barnaby Joyce is the Nationals member for New England.

    Yeah.
    Wot ‘e said.
    ‘Cos things would so much different under a Lib/Nats government.

  64. thefrollickingmole

    Reminder about those who seek to massively limit peoples lives as a replacement for fixing up their own..

    Pedophrasty
    Definition: Argument involving children to prop up a rationalization and make the opponent look like an asshole, as people are defenseless and suspend all skepticism in front of suffering children: nobody has the heart to question the authenticity or source of the reporting. Often done with the aid of pictures.

    Can also describe the exploitation of babies by professional beggars who rent them from their parents and use them as potent appendage in their trade(remember that children tend to grow and need to be replaced).

    Pedophrasty is effective as it provides arguments to strike before the evidence is formed. People are moved into “doing something”.
    Pedophrasts prey on our maternal (and paternal) instincts.

    Pedophrasty has its most effects on actors, journalists and similar types who are intellectually insecure, deprived of critical judgment, and afraid of being classified as violators of some norm of political correctness. For instance, pedophrasty has been commonly used in the Syrian war by such propagandists as Julian Roepke continuously supplying the German public with pictures of dead children. Or the various lobbies hired by Saudi Barbaria (and allies), such as the Middle East Institute in Washington DC, to promote Sunni Islamist policies under the cover of “think tanks”.

  65. stackja

    Stalin knew that Japan from his spies was near defeat, hoped to gain North Japan. USA didn’t agree.

  66. C.L.

    Clementine Ford brings today’s laughs:

    There is no one more entitled and insecure than the male comic.

    … “Right on cue, Louis C.K. is back on stage, after taking a ‘long time’ to ‘listen’. Not to listen to the women he hurt, of course, but to the angry little voice inside of him, that furious, tiny masturbator on his shoulder, whispering in his ear: Aren’t you, Louis C.K., really the biggest victim in all of this?”

    […]

    In my book, Boys Will Be Boys, I predicted C.K.’s exile would be short-lived and indeed it was…

    Truly, there is no one more entitled, insecure and fragile than your average male comic. C.K. managed to hide his utterly banal core behind the exact politics he’s now deriding, but it was all an illusion. As it turns out, all it took for him to be revealed as the predictable hack he is was being asked to accept responsibility for his grotesque, perverted behaviour and just step out of the spotlight for more than a minute…

    In a recent speech, the genuinely clever and evolving comedian Hannah Gadsby spoke of “the line in the sand” that separates good men from bad men, but that all men reserve the right to be in control of. The force with which some people (most of them men) continue to defend C.K. ultimately speaks to the fury these same people feel at having control of that line taken away from them.

    Ahahahahahaha.

    By the way, Ford’s Boys Will Be Boys is currently ranked #3,729,584 on Amazon.
    That’s not made up.

  67. stackja

    HBB – Yes banks will need assurance.

  68. Or a government that thinks your money should pay for its promises for its mates’ utopia.

    The timing of our imminent rampant destruction is good for my children. Dad will keep them fed and healthy, and they will spend their pre-voting years seeing Australia turn to shit with Shorten running amok, with well-timed adverse comments from dad. By the time they can vote, they’ll be waiting at the nearest voting station for the gates to open.

  69. Memoryvault

    HBB – Yes banks will need assurance.

    They already have it. It’s called Lenders Mortgage Insurance, and unless you can put up a 20%+ deposit, the banks insist you have it.

  70. Boambee John

    Bruce in WA
    #2897506, posted on January 3, 2019 at 9:49 am
    The AUD has crashed to US68.5c?? Really? WTF!!

    It was close to 0.50c at one stage in the mid/late 1990s!

  71. Tailgunner

    Katie Hopkins

    @KTHopkins
    Expect mass mobilisation of the #GiletsJaunes after the arrest of a key figure – Eric Drouet – by the French police. Macron now taking political prisoners. How very 2019#GiletJaunes
    2,707
    8:56 AM – Jan 3, 2019

    Hmmm…. Bad move by the Rothschilds French Connection methinks.

  72. stackja

    mole – Children used as props in political agenda.

  73. cohenite

    The election is nigh and the usual uniparty moaning and groaning is taking place after I posted BJ’s article which is a splendid statement of the shit tits will inflict on us (incidentally talkback featured tits r..e allegation yesterday). In my opinion the liars are completely ridden by green bullshit whereas I estimate the libs are still less than 60%, barely salvageable. With that in mind this comment is interesting:

    I heard an interesting caller to 3AW in Melbourne yesterday. He was an American and described how it is no longer a fight between Liberal/Labor or Republicans/Democrats. The fight is between Globalists and Nationalists. This is why we’re witnessing the yellow vest revolution, the rise of Donald Trump, the Eastern European nationalist, Austrian and Italian Governments, the new anti socialist Brazilian Government.
    Australia is about 10 years behind the USA – are we smart enough to learn from this anti UN/pro nationalist movement or will we inflict another two terms of socialist Marxism on ourselves at the ballot box in May?

    So, are there any nationalists in the liars or the libs?

  74. Tailgunner

    FMD – the ghost of John McCain walks the Senate:

    Mitt Romney ’not sure’ who to endorse for White House in 2020

    Go tie a dog to the roof racks, Loser.
    Mittens thinks GEOTUS cares about his endorsement, embarrassing!

  75. Memoryvault

    mole – Children used as props in political agenda.

    Santa Klaus started it, in shopping centres.
    Quickly followed by politicians kissing babies at election time.

    Or maybe it was the other way around.

  76. calli

    Any intrusion can be rendered unassailable by citing loss of life.

    It’s the Lefty “People Will Die” catchcry so well explored in Takimag (linked yesterday).

    Here.

  77. Boambee John

    Myrddin at 1029

    No matter director/writer Cy Endfield’s balanced vision for the story, I have no doubt ‘Zulu’ will be scrubbed from broadcast and streaming services as popular culture is ‘de-colonised’.

    El Cid has already gone in the name of Islamophobia, Khartoum would have followed except that tye Muslims won that one. Seen any cowboy and indian shows lately? The series Anzacs did not make an appearance rhat I am aware of during the Centanary of WW I.

    Consorship by stealth is well underway.

  78. stackja

    mv – mortgage insurance, if tower unit is faulty?

  79. Roger

    So, are there any nationalists in the liars or the libs?

    Andrew Hastie, Craig Kelly…

  80. Rae

    By the way, Ford’s Boys Will Be Boys is currently ranked #3,729,584 on Amazon.
    That’s not made up.

    Nah. That’s your Australian golf ranking.

    Here is Clemmie’s Boys Will be Boys ranking, as at 11.40 am today:

    Amazon Bestsellers Rank:
    #1,295 Paid in Kindle Store (See Top 100 Paid in Kindle Store)
    #25 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Politics & Social Sciences > Social Sciences
    #60 in Books > Politics, Philosophy & Social Sciences
    #233 in Books > Textbooks & Study Guides

  81. Tailgunner

    Rudy Giuliani, a lawyer for President Donald Trump, said Monday that WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange had not done “anything wrong” and should not go to jail for disseminating stolen information just as major media does.

    “Let’s take the Pentagon Papers,” Giuliani told Fox News.

    “The Pentagon Papers were stolen property, weren’t they? It was in The New York Times and The Washington Post. Nobody went to jail at The New York Times and The Washington Post.”

    Giuliani said there were “revelations during the Bush administration” such as Abu Ghraib. “All of that is stolen property taken from the government, it’s against the law. But once it gets to a media publication, they can publish it,” Giuliani said, “for the purpose of informing people.”

    “You can’t put Assange in a different position,” he said.

    “He was a guy who communicated.”

    Giuliani said, “We may not like what [Assange] communicates, but he was a media facility. He was putting that information out,” he said.

    “Every newspaper and station grabbed it, and published it.”

    The U.S. government has admitted that it has indicted Assange for publishing classified information, but it is battling in court [LINK in original] to keep the details of the indictment secret. As a lawyer and close advisor to Trump, Giuliani could have influence on the president’s and the Justice Department’s thinking on Assange. [EMPHASIS ADDED]

    SOURCE
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-0…prosecuted

    2019 is gonna be yuuuge!

  82. Infidel Tiger

    It was close to 0.50c at one stage in the mid/late 1990s!

    It was 0.50c in 2000 during the Olympics.

    Great for tourism.

  83. Bruce in WA

    It was close to 0.50c at one stage in the mid/late 1990s!

    Yes, I well remember that; we were in the USA at the time!

    Also remember being in the UK when the Oz $ was worth 33 pence. A bowl of soup for lunch was equivalent to $25AUD; entry to the Tower of London was AUD$100.

    Ah, good times, good times …

  84. thefrollickingmole

    Skin suit boy lying lyingly?

    Funny how it missed the first bit on the ranking. Lying by omission is still lying.

    Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #95,684

    Fuck off mummys lowing for her pustule liniment again, such a disappointment you are to her.

  85. Stimpson J. Cat

    Year Three students will be given ‘ethnic clothes’ to try on and boys will be encouraged to ‘explore gender’ by wearing girls’ dresses under new school program.
    The fresh syllabus, which has the backing of the McGowan Government in Western Australia, will be introduced to a handful of Perth schools from term one in February.

    Oh this will be hilarious.
    Let me just have a quick chat to all my Muslim parents and see if we can’t knock this on the head quick smart.
    Ha ha ha ha ha ja ha ja!!!

    This will be great fun.

    I would hate to be a teacher in February.

  86. cohenite

    Clementine Ford brings today’s laughs:

    There is no one more entitled and insecure than the male comic.

    Ford is a shocker. Women like her only have their shit-spitting freedoms because of white men.

  87. calli

    I’m know on a hiding to nothing, CL. Amazon as at 11:50

    Hard copy:

    Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars 1 customer review
    Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #258,505 in Books

    Soft copy:
    Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #95,684 Paid in Kindle Store (See Top 100 Paid in Kindle Store)
    #65 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Nonfiction > Politics & Social Sciences > Social Sciences > Gender Studies
    #320 in Books > Politics & Social Sciences > Social Sciences > Gender Studies > General

    Gender Studies is a pretty narrow field. She’s doing well.

    As you know, I keep a close eye on Clemmie. We’re attached at the bicep as it were. 😃

  88. jupes

    Hmmm…. Bad move by the Rothschilds French Connection methinks.

    Good grief another anti-Semite on the blog.

  89. Memoryvault

    mv – mortgage insurance, if tower unit is faulty?

    My comment was in reply to one suggesting the banks would want assurance.
    LMI guarantees the banks will get their money, even if the whole bloody building collapses.
    Regardless of whose fault it is.
    And that’s all they care about.

    Put another way, the banks already have all the “assurance” they want and need.

  90. thefrollickingmole

    The core problem.
    https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577

    The Intellectual Yet Idiot is a production of modernity hence has been accelerating since the mid twentieth century, to reach its local supremum today, along with the broad category of people without skin-in-the-game who have been invading many walks of life. Why? Simply, in most countries, the government’s role is between five and ten times what it was a century ago (expressed in percentage of GDP). The IYI seems ubiquitous in our lives but is still a small minority and is rarely seen outside specialized outlets, think tanks, the media, and universities — most people have proper jobs and there are not many openings for the IYI.

    Beware the semi-erudite who thinks he is an erudite. He fails to naturally detect sophistry.

    ….
    The IYI has been wrong, historically, on Stalinism, Maoism, GMOs, Iraq, Libya, Syria, lobotomies, urban planning, low carbohydrate diets, gym machines, behaviorism, transfats, freudianism, portfolio theory, linear regression, Gaussianism, Salafism, dynamic stochastic equilibrium modeling, housing projects, selfish gene, election forecasting models, Bernie Madoff (pre-blowup) and p-values. But he is convinced that his current position is right.

  91. Makka

    Attributed in part to the AUD crash/Yen rally earlier. Apple on China – again….

    The market was suspicious of China but Tim Cook came right out and pointed the finger, saying that a sharp macroeconomic slowdown there was almost-entirely responsible for a roughly 10% drop in revenue guidance.

    While we anticipated some challenges in key emerging markets, we did not foresee the magnitude of the economic deceleration, particularly in Greater China. In fact, most of our revenue shortfall to our guidance, and over 100 percent of our year-over-year worldwide revenue decline, occurred in Greater China across iPhone, Mac and iPad.
    China’s economy began to slow in the second half of 2018. The government-reported GDP growth during the September quarter was the second lowest in the last 25 years. We believe the economic environment in China has been further impacted by rising trade tensions with the United States. As the climate of mounting uncertainty weighed on financial markets, the effects appeared to reach consumers as well, with traffic to our retail stores and our channel partners in China declining as the quarter progressed. And market data has shown that the contraction in Greater China’s smartphone market has been particularly sharp.

  92. stackja

    jupes – the R family always the money.

  93. Infidel Tiger

    Algo traders blamed for AUD fall.

  94. Mother Lode

    The funny thing about Nationalism is that it is used to indicate an affinity with Nazism, because ‘National’ is in their name.

    I am not trying to reignite the debate as to whether the Nazis were of the left or right.

    I would just make the point that the allies (excluding the Soviets) and a lot of nations who fought but succumbed to the Nazis (the French, Poles etc) were nationalists too.

    And I daresay more than a few Germans who disliked the Nazis did so for nationalist reasons.

  95. stackja

    mv – LMI provider would want assurance surely?

  96. jupes

    jupes – the R family always the money.

    That’s what Hitler said too.

  97. jupes

    The funny thing about Nationalism is that it is used to indicate an affinity with Nazism, because ‘National’ is in their name.

    That was a brilliant piece of propaganda from the socialists to successfully obscure the socialist part of National Socialism.

  98. stackja

    jupes – the R family biography relates origins of their money.

  99. jupes

    jupes – the R family biography relates origins of their money.

    Whatever.

    Blaming Jewish bankers for the world’s woes is anti-Semitism 101.

  100. cohenite

    One of the mainstays of alarmism is that CO2 warming will cause increased water feedback; it’s not happening:

    https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/BAMS-D-17-0065.1

  101. Memoryvault

    mv – LMI provider would want assurance surely?

    Who knows, Stackja.
    My comment was in reply to a statement that the banks would require assurance.
    My comment pointed out that the banks already had ‘assurance’.

    If you or anybody else wants to now expand the discussion to other parties, then so be it. But don’t try and and twist my original comment into something entirely different to what it was.

  102. Roger

    The funny thing about Nationalism is that it is used to indicate an affinity with Nazism, because ‘National’ is in their name.

    The key difference between nationalism generally and German nationalism is that the latter was based on “race” (volk) whereas other nationalisms, e.g. French, were based on citizenship (or, in the British empire, the status of being subject to the Crown). The Nazis took German nationalism to its end point, with many less radical German nationalists either looking away or making their peace with it, even though they regarded Nazis as lower class thugs.

  103. stackja

    jupes – bankers do influence politics.

  104. stackja

    mv – someone loses money.

  105. Roger

    mv – someone loses money.

    In the case of “lender’s insurance” the buyer, who pays for it up front, loses money.

  106. Infidel Tiger

    Mortgage insurance is not to protect the buyer!

    Farking hell! That’s not how ponzis work!

  107. thefrollickingmole

    Hahahahaha, liniment boy is using amazon.au as his source….

    Why not amazon.is, then buy 2 books and show it catapulted to number 3 in the rankings.

  108. Memoryvault

    mv – someone loses money.

    And where did I suggest anything else?
    LMI guarantees that the banks don’t, and that was as far as my comment went.

  109. Nob

    Infidel Tiger
    #2897596, posted on January 3, 2019 at 12:01 pm
    Algo traders blamed for AUD fall.

    Shouldn’t the effect of that even out over a few days?
    I have no idea about that shit, just asking.

  110. Makka

    So as China’s economy sinks deeper and faster, it will be interesting to see what rabbits Xi can pull from his hat before March 1st when the higher US tariffs kick in. More Guatemalan caravans? A collision or 2 in the Sth China Sea? Problems with Taiwan?

  111. bespoke

    jupes
    #2897602, posted on January 3, 2019 at 12:11 pm
    jupes – the R family biography relates origins of their money.
    Whatever.
    Blaming Jewish bankers for the world’s woes is anti-Semitism 101.

    Is it always?

  112. Baldrick

    Mmmyes, the book expert:

    Rae
    #2603161, posted on January 7, 2018 at 12:31 pm
    Prologue: Ailes and Bannon [the dinner], and the first 2 pages of chapter 1) was enough to convince me it will be a good read. I bought it on Kindle for $14.99.
    ___
    January 8, 2018
    Donald Trump book Fire and Fury posted free online by WikiLeaks
    https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/950128443181580288

  113. C.L.

    My apologies to Miss Ford.
    Not sure what rank I was looking at.
    Her book is ranked #100,862 on Amazon.
    Donald Trump’s Art of The Deal – first published in 1987 – is ranked #1,952

    Contemporary reviews:

    “Trump makes one believe for a moment in the American dream again.”
    —The New York Times

    “Donald Trump is a deal maker. He is a deal maker the way lions are carnivores and water is wet.”
    —Chicago Tribune

    “Fascinating . . . wholly absorbing . . . conveys Trump’s larger-than-life demeanor so vibrantly that the reader’s attention is instantly and fully claimed.”
    —Boston Herald

    “A chatty, generous, chutzpa-filled autobiography.”
    —New York Post

  114. jupes

    jupes – bankers do influence politics.

    Yeah especially Jewish ones.

    Fuck off.

  115. Makka

    Shouldn’t the effect of that even out over a few days?

    Algo traders are everywhere; banks, pension funds, hedge funds, super funds etc…. They are always present so they aren’t any more responsible than any other day.

    It was relatively thin trading at critical levels so the move was exaggerated due to the liquidity aspects. It’s the acceleration in the ongoing downtrend that matters. Down.

  116. jupes

    jupes – bankers do influence politics.

    Yeah especially J*wish ones.

    Fuck off.

  117. Sinclair Davidson

    Is it always?

    Yes – always.

  118. Baldrick

    Well that killed that conversation.

  119. Elle

    It’s summer. The sun is shining. The tennis is on. The cricket is on. The beer is cold. Time to dance!

  120. thefrollickingmole

    Unfortunately the Rothschild/Hooish connection spoils many debates about who holds economic power.

    Eg: I find it quite plausible a family group could continue to wield extraordinary economic clout due to great wealth generated in the past and sweetheart deals.
    But the horrible anti-semitism means all information on some groups devolves into stormfront type raving at some stage.

  121. Memoryvault

    Yes – always.

    What some people don’t understand, Doomlord, is J*w- -ish involvement in the banking industry, just like their involvement in the film industry, is due to a quirk in history, not some nefarious conspiracy for world dominance.

  122. thefrollickingmole

    comment disappeared, I blame the Illuminati/lizard people & Rothchilds.

    Pinched from instapundit, I didnt realize the size of some of the USAs garrisons in countries which should be able to look after themselves.

    Trump is right. It’s ridiculous that the United States has 26,000 military personnel in South Korea 65 years after the Korean War, 54,000 in Japan 73 years after World War II, and 64,000 in a dozen European countries 27 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

  123. John Constantine

    Sitting at the cricket, listening to the Barmy Army chanting:

    “We get three dollars to the pound, three dollars to the pound”

    Good Times are here again.

    Comrades.

  124. thefrollickingmole

    Unfortunately the Rothschild/Hooish connection spoils many debates about who holds economic power.

    Eg: I find it quite plausible a family group could continue to wield extraordinary economic clout due to great wealth generated in the past and sweetheart deals.
    But the horrible anti-semitism means all information on some groups devolves into stormfront type raving at some stage.

    Memoryvault

    As you point out banking in particular was dominated because of many laws preventing them from a lot of other occupations, and traditional Church teachings about usury.
    An accident of history.

  125. Infidel Tiger

    Our bankers are complete and utter xunts. Anglos to a man and woman. Except for the token curry muncher or two.

  126. thefrollickingmole

    Memoryvault

    As you point out banking in particular was dominated because of many laws preventing them from a lot of other occupations, and traditional Church teachings about usury.
    An accident of history.

  127. bespoke

    I don’t understand Sinc. I no jerks blame J #w s for being J*wish but does that mean bankers that happen to be J*wish untouchable?

  128. Memoryvault

    It’s summer. The sun is shining.

    It’s overcast with periodic showers here, Elle.
    Again.
    Tell me more about these mysterious terms you use – “summer”, and “the sun is shining”.

  129. Top Ender

    Daryl Dragon, of The Captain and Tennille, dead at 76

    I bought one of their albums because of Tennille’s good looks on the LP cover:

    Dragon was a classically trained pianist but preferred to play blues and boogie music instead of Bach and Beethoven. He played with Fats Domino and B.B. King and was also a backup keyboard player for the Beach Boys in the mid-1960s and early 1970s.

    It was with the Beach Boys that Dragon got his stage name, thanks to his habit of wearing a ship captain’s hat while performing.

    He met Tennille when they both toured for the Beach Boys, and they began performing together.

    They signed a record deal in 1974, releasing Love Will Keep Us Together, which held onto the No. 1 spot on the charts for eight weeks in the summer of 1975. Captain and Tennille also toured England, Australia and Japan.

    Then again they put out a good sound. Oz link

  130. Rae

    Donald Trump’s Art of The Deal – first published in 1987 – is ranked #1,952

    Sure, but not in the Australian market. Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #41,817 Paid in Kindle Store

    BTW, the ranking of Free Market Economics is a much bigger number than Clemmie’s/your Australian golf ranking. Horses for courses.

  131. thefrollickingmole

    bespoke

    It always seems to devolve into a mess.

  132. Roger

    What some people don’t understand, Doomlord, is J*w- -ish involvement in the banking industry…is due to a quirk in history

    More than one quirk – being barred from other professions, medieval Christians not being permitted to charge interest, high literacy and numeracy rates in J3wish communities…

  133. Baldrick

    Union chief John Setka has responded to reports he has been charged over an incident at his home in Melbourne’s west on Boxing Day

    Another Leftard #MeToo hypocrite exposed:

    John Setka @CFMEUJohnSetka
    While there will always be zealots breeding race-hate like Dutton, Turnbull & Trump, campaign movements like #BlackLivesMatter #MariageEquality & #MeToo will always will always shine through!
    7:34 AM · Jan 9, 2018

  134. Elle

    Memoryvault, I am on holiday – far away from Sydney 🙂

  135. Infidel Tiger

    When they were chanting that, we were running massive surpluses and thought this was the land of milk and honey.

    The illusion of permanence.

  136. Snoopy

    #MeToo

    Just how much honesty are you demanding of Setka, Baldy?

  137. bespoke

    thefrollickingmole
    #2897637, posted on January 3, 2019 at 12:45 pm
    bespoke
    It always seems to devolve into a mess.

    Sadly yes.

  138. jupes

    I no jerks blame J #w s for being J*wish but does that mean bankers that happen to be J*wish untouchable?

    When you single out a J*wish bank for criticism at the exclusion of all other banks, you are engaging in anti-Semitism.

    It’s really not that hard to understand.

  139. Memoryvault

    . . . many laws preventing them from a lot of other occupations, and traditional Church teachings about usury. An accident of history.

    Precisely, Mole. In many European countries Christians were not allowed to lend money at interest.
    But J*w- -ish merchants were. Since the only people in a position to borrow large amounts of money were the nobility – mainly kings and queens waging wars they couldn’t afford – they ended up owing the J*w- -ish merchants a lot of money. Rather than pay, they expelled the merchants.

    Then along came a clever guy named Amschel who figured out a way to avoid expulsion.
    The rest, as they say, is history.

  140. P

    Dragon was a classically trained pianist but preferred to play blues and boogie music instead of Bach and Beethoven. He played with Fats Domino and B.B. King and was also a backup keyboard player for the Beach Boys in the mid-1960s and early 1970s.

    tidbit (Wiki) Captain and Tenille
    “In July 1976, they were invited by First Lady Betty Ford to perform in the East Room of the White House in the presence of Queen Elizabeth II and President Gerald Ford during the country’s bicentennial celebration. After a long journey, the Queen fell asleep during their show.”

  141. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yes – always.

    WTF I Love Banks and Bankers Now!!!

  142. Memoryvault

    Memoryvault, I am on holiday – far away from Sydney

    I’m not, Elle.
    I’m at home, about an hour’s drive north of Brisbane – capital of “The Sunshine State”.
    I think we have already had summer. It was three days at the beginning of Dcember.

  143. OldOzzie

    Elle
    #2897625, posted on January 3, 2019 at 12:37 pm
    It’s summer. The sun is shining. The tennis is on. The cricket is on. The beer is cold. Time to dance!

    Thanks for that Elle,

    Best Version of Hava Nagila I have Seen/Heard

    We made it to Jerusalem and Bethlehem, but not Tel Aviv – Israel a Jewel of Democracy in the Middle East

    Cairo was the biggest Rubbish Tip I have ever seen – a real pigsty

  144. jupes

    WTF I Love Banks and Bankers Now!!!

    Here we go again.

    J*w-hate day at the Cat.

  145. Little Bill may find it more than a little difficult to bring a socialist nirvana in his first term.
    Guaranteed credit squeeze, thanks to the ALP bank bash-athon.
    A continued low dollar will soon push consumer good price rises leading to price inflation.
    Interest rate rises sure to follow.
    Consumer spending down, taxes up, credit tight, property values falling.
    Who could the ALP tax to save the budget bacon?
    The miners will be cashing in nicely.
    If Bill’s lucky he might get a lump of coal from Santa next year.

  146. Memoryvault

    It seems you can’t even write in support of some things without ending up in the sin bin.
    Oh well.

  147. Stimpson J. Cat

    Our bankers are complete and utter xunts. Anglos to a man and woman. Except for the token curry muncher or two.

    Can we just ease off on the banker racism guys.
    Tone it down please.

    😁

  148. John Constantine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxKUiu5jdVI

    Barmy Army get 24 rand to the pound.

    When is their next tour here?.

    If we go full zimbabwe, the math may be too complex for them.

    Comrades.

  149. Bruce in WA

    From the Paywallian … hence in full.

    Damn shame to see this happening. And 75 isn’t really all that old! I occasionally find myself fumbling for a word lately … and as a former professional editor and writer, that’s a frightening thing. I just hope I can retain some semblance of dignity when my time comes closer.

    Billy Connolly says he’s near the end of life

    Legendary Scottish comedian Sir Billy Connolly has admitted he is “near the end” and his life is “slipping away”, as he spoke about his fight with Parkinson’s disease.

    Speaking to his BBC documentary series Made In Scotland, Connolly says he is not scared of death.

    “My life, it’s slipping away and I can feel it and I should. I’m 75, I’m near the end. I’m a damn sight nearer the end than I am the beginning. But it doesn’t frighten me, it’s an adventure and it is quite interesting to see myself slipping away,” he said.

    “As bits slip off and leave me, talents leave and attributes leave. I don’t have the balance I used to have, I don’t have the energy I used to have. I can’t hear the way I used to hear, I can’t see as good as I used to. I can’t remember the way I used to remember.

    “And they all came one at a time and they just slipped away, thank you. It is like somebody is in charge of you and they are saying ‘right, I added all these bits when you were a youth, now it is time to subtract’.” He was diagnosed with Parkinson’s — a neurological condition that impacts movement and speech — while undergoing surgery for early-stage prostate cancer in 2013.

    At one point during the program, Connolly reportedly asks for filming to stop as he appears to be struggling with the effects of the disease. Speaking about Parkinson’s, he said: “It takes a certain calm to deal with, and I sometimes don’t have it. I sometimes get angry with it, but that doesn’t last long, I just collapse in laughter.”

  150. Bruce in WA

    Blockquote fail 🙁

  151. Has anyone else noticed that the much praised AU bowlers have been less effective since being regularly searched for sandpaper and cheese graters?

  152. Memoryvault

    Billy Connolly says he’s near the end of life

    Best to remember the high points, Bruce.
    Here’s Connolly on terrorism – in Glasgow.

  153. Boambee John

    At one point during the program, Connolly reportedly asks for filming to stop as he appears to be struggling with the effects of the disease. Speaking about Parkinson’s, he said: “It takes a certain calm to deal with, and I sometimes don’t have it. I sometimes get angry with it, but that doesn’t last long, I just collapse in laughter.”

    IIRC, David Niven said something quite similar as Motor Nuerone Disease gradually finished him off.

  154. C.L.

    I just hope I can retain some semblance of dignity …

    Nothing is more dignified than suffering.

  155. Snoopy

    If we go full zimbabwe,

    What are the odds of Shorten following Zimbabwe’s lead and introducing a 2% tax on electronic funds transfers?

  156. vlad

    John Setka @CFMEUJohnSetka
    While there will always be zealots breeding race-hate like Dutton, Turnbull & Trump, campaign movements like #BlackLivesMatter #MariageEquality & #MeToo will always will always shine through!
    7:34 AM · Jan 9, 2018

    “will always will always” – I knew the bruvvas talked like that, but I didn’t know they typed like that.

    And by “#MariageEquality” do you think he meant “#MariageEgalite”?

  157. Baldrick

    Just how much honesty are you demanding of Setka, Baldy?

    About the same as he demanded from Dutton, Turnbull and Trump. 🙃

  158. Venezuela has nice waterfalls.

    (For those of you contemplating a move)

  159. Peter Castieau

    @SkyNewsAust

    More
    JUST IN: Two people are being treated for stab wounds following an incident in Chatswood in Sydney’s lower North Shore.

  160. Infidel Tiger

    Chatswood: probably Chinks arguing over a car park.

  161. Infidel Tiger

    “My life, it’s slipping away and I can feel it and I should. I’m 75, I’m near the end. I’m a damn sight nearer the end than I am the beginning. But it doesn’t frighten me, it’s an adventure and it is quite interesting to see myself slipping away,” he said.

    That is terrific. Great spirit.

  162. OldOzzie

    Elle
    #2897625, posted on January 3, 2019 at 12:37 pm
    It’s summer. The sun is shining. The tennis is on. The cricket is on. The beer is cold. Time to dance!

    Thanks for that Elle,

    Best Version of Hava Nagila I have Seen/Heard

    We made it to J#rusalem and Bethlehem, but not Tel Aviv – Israel a J#wel of Democracy in the Middle East

    Cairo was the biggest Rubbish Tip I have ever seen – a real pigsty

  163. Snoopy

    Infidel Tiger
    #2897672, posted on January 3, 2019 at 1:34 pm
    Chatswood: probably Chinks arguing over a car park.

    Hosting couch surfing refugees from Opal Towers can be stressful.

  164. cuckoo

    I have no doubt ‘Zulu’ will be scrubbed from broadcast and streaming services as popular culture is ‘de-colonised’.

    Maybe an urban legend but I was once told that every new Army intake at Puckapunyal was shown Zulu to make the point that a unit can survive against seemingly impossible odds if they maintain discipline and keep their nerve.

  165. Memoryvault

    A headline – but no information – has just shown up on the ABC news:

    Breaking news
    A 16-year-old boy has been arrested after two men were stabbed at the Church of Scientology headquarters in the northern Sydney suburb of Chatswood

    Call me naive, but somehow I don’t think they’re “chinks”.

  166. Top Ender

    Here is useful evidence to use against the idiocy of pill-testing from the Oz Letters page.

    I was at a function at Xmas where several young rellies were voicing off about the subject. They all thought “they” should bring it in. Costs didn’t matter – all about “saving lives” etc.

    Pill testing not the answer

    Recent deaths of festival goers consuming pills of unknown ingredients have led to calls for pill testing. There are three issues that should be considered as a counter to these calls.

    First, there are now hundreds of synthetic cannabinoids, benzodiazepines, amphetamine types and opiates in circulation worldwide.

    It is not possible for any testing facility to identify all of these and in a time frame for the owner of the substance to be able to make an informed decision as to whether he or she should take the pill.

    Second, in order not to destroy the pill, the tester would need to scrape off a small amount.

    Unlike pharmaceutical tablets, the ingredients in a pill are unlikely to be homogeneously mixed. In other words, merely taking a scraping may well miss the impurity buried elsewhere within the tablet.

    Third, one of the deadliest substances circulating in 2018 was carfentanil, a highly potent synthetic opiate 10,000 times more potent than morphine.

    Carfentanil has been found mixed with heroin and cocaine resulting in deaths in Britain. The drug is fatal in microgram amounts. It is not yet known what substance/s were the actual cause of recent deaths and near fatalities. But testing wouldn’t identify microgram amounts of substances such as carfentanil.

    John Lewis, Centre for Forensic Science, University of Technology, Sydney, NSW

  167. Elle

    You’re welcome, OldOzzie. It’s my favorite version. Best turned up loud. Gets ya moving 🙂
    I’m heading to Israel this year with a mix of Christian and J*wish friends. So excited!
    Cheers.

  168. Stimpson J. Cat

    Breaking news
    A 16-year-old boy has been arrested after two men were stabbed at the Church of Scientology headquarters in the northern Sydney suburb of Chatswood

    You wouldn’t have this kind of trouble with a Jordan Peterson Personality Test.

  169. jupes

    Where did Macron come from, Jupes?

    Oh let me guess … a J*wish bank?

  170. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    John Setka should be forced out of Labor Party, Kelly O’Dwyer says
    Richard Ferguson
    Reporter
    @RichAFerguson
    Eli Greenblat
    Senior Business Reporter
    @EliGreenblat
    30 minutes ago January 3, 2019

    Workplace Relations Minister Kelly O’Dwyer has called on Bill Shorten to force CFMMEU boss John Setka out of the Labor Party, after he was arrested over an altercation with his wife on Boxing Day.

    The Herald Sun reported today that Mr Setka, the Victorian head of the CFMMEU, had been charged after a Boxing Day incident involving wife Emma Walters at the family home.

    Speaking at the KPMG Couta boat races at the Victorian seaside town of Sorrento, Ms O’Dwyer said today that the allegations against Mr Setka were “very disturbing” and should not be tolerated by anyone, including the Opposition Leader.

    “They are very disturbing allegations. Violence should never be tolerated whether it is in the workplace or in the home and John Setka is probably the number one supporter of Bill Shorten,” she said.

    “Bill Shorten relies on John Setka and his militant CFMMEU for leadership votes and for donations and every single time Bill Shorten has failed the test of leadership when it comes to the militant CFMMEU and its leadership.

    “Bill Shorten must tell John Setka to resign his membership of the Labor Party and to resign from the militant CFMMEU

    From the Oz.

  171. Dr Faustus

    Who could the ALP tax to save the budget bacon?

    It can’t be anything relying on increasing the productivity of capital or labour.

    It will be ‘savings’ on tax concessions given to static capital: real estate (including principal place of residence) and superannuation. The ~$10 trillion Magic Pudding of OPM can’t just sit around untouched when there are important social programs to be funded.

    The Great Taking will start in the 2019/20 Budget – when ‘the true state of the mess left behind by the Coalition’ becomes apparent. It will be a finely tuned political wedge; starting off with those-who-can-afford-to-pay-more-but-are not-likely-to-vote-Labor.

  172. Tel

    Macron spent time in various government roles, and also in private banking where he achieved a Managing Director position. I’m not sure if that tells you a lot about him, other than he knows some powerful people and he seems pretty adept at banking and economic management.

    Early Professional Career

    After graduation, Macron went to work for the French Finance Ministry as an inspector. Forging powerful connections, he was tapped by President Nicolas Sarkozy in 2007 to join the bipartisan Attali Commission on economic growth.

    The following year, Macron left civil service for the world of investment banking at Rothschild & Co. Again demonstrating a capacity for quick learning, he rose through the ranks to become managing director, earning renown for his role in advising Nestlé’s $12 billion acquisition of a division of Pfizer in 2012.

    You might argue he rose through the ranks surprisingly quickly … but there’s no proof that he got special help, as far as I’ve been able to find.

  173. candy

    I wonder why Clem Ford would title her book “Boys Will Be Boys” which immediately brings to mind some truisms about how boys behave, do stuff, think about stuff, as most males do as pretty much per their genetic coding/nature.

    Perhaps she was trying to sell more copies to unsuspecting people who did not know it was about New Feminism and hating males (white ones, anyways).

  174. Diogenes

    Maybe an urban legend but I was once told that every new Army intake at Puckapunyal was shown Zulu to make the point that a unit can survive against seemingly impossible odds if they maintain discipline and keep their nerve.

    I know it used to be shown to every Subject 1 for corporal/segeant/commission course and the actions of ColSgt Bourne, and Lts Bromhead & Chard for leadership skills. For Sgt & FA1 we were also shown The Way Ahead (for Nivens performance) and a a Bridge to Far. This was in the 80s, things maybe different now…. As an aside does anybody else remember the old first aid training films shot by the US army in MASHs during Korea…. usually had one run from the room puking when the narrator intoned “this is a sucking chest wound”, pull back badage & zoom in

  175. Cuckoo:

    Maybe an urban legend but I was once told that every new Army intake at Puckapunyal was shown Zulu to make the point that a unit can survive against seemingly impossible odds if they maintain discipline and keep their nerve.

    Shown at both of my DEOC & ROBC.

  176. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2897527, posted on January 3, 2019 at 10:32 am

    India to bat first after winning the toss. The Ch7 commentators are putting on a brave face.

    Our national malaise is so bad that we have selected a man who averages 23 as our number 3 batsman rather than Glenn Maxwell.

    Interesting.
    Someone just blithely mentioned during commentary the other day that Maxwell had been told not to play English County cricket last year because he would be “very busy during the Australian summer”.
    The Stevie Smith putsch at the ACB has absolutely sucker punched him. Tell him to rest up all winter then, when they leave him out of the Test series, they can background journos by type-casting Maxxie as a T20 bash-merchant ..
    “Gee, he hasn’t played enough long form cricket to warrant selection. Let’s stick with Mitch”.

  177. None

    Like all good little champagne socialist Macron likes other people’s money.

  178. Memoryvault

    Shown at both of my DEOC & ROBC.

    I don’t remember it being shown at either Puckapunyal or Scheyville in my day.
    But it could just have as easily gone down the memory abyss following one of my strokes.

  179. Infidel Tiger

    Level 16 of Scientology you have to stab someone.

    Achievement unlocked!

  180. Top Ender

    This was in the 80s, things maybe different now…

    Royal Australian Naval College in the early 2000’s showed amongst others Zulu for leadership skills, and the Battle of Little Round Top sequence from Gettysburg for The Principles of War.

  181. Muddy

    thefrollickingmole
    #2897628, posted on January 3, 2019 at 12:40 pm

    Trump is right. It’s ridiculous that the United States has 26,000 military personnel in South Korea 65 years after the Korean War, 54,000 in Japan 73 years after World War II, and 64,000 in a dozen European countries 27 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    Leaving aside South Korea, bases don’t staff themselves. Those numbers are not that significant either.

  182. None

    Nothing is more dignified than suffering.

    Rubbish. If that was true we would stop all medical research and all medicine and all efforts we make to alleviate suffering. Suffering is a fact of fallen and sinful creation. If you think suffering is dignified then so is sin.

  183. Myrddin Seren

    Another headline at the Paywallian:

    Josh Frydenberg calls on banks to reignite “affordable and timely’’ lending after house prices had their worst year since the GFC.

    Ponzi distress flares going out.

    Navigator calls ‘Pan, Pan, Pan’.

  184. Memoryvault

    You guys got to watch movies during military training?
    The only film I remember seeing was on correct operation of a communications radio.
    Mind you, video hadn’t been invented yet.

  185. Stimpson J. Cat

    Nothing is more dignified than suffering.

    Suffering Is Love – Mother Teresa.

  186. jupes

    Royal Australian Naval College in the early 2000’s showed amongst others Zulu for leadership skills, and the Battle of Little Round Top sequence from Gettysburg for The Principles of War.

    What, no inspirational navy films shown?

  187. None

    What, no inspirational navy films shown?

    They did show reruns of Gilligan’s Island in the canteen.

  188. None

    Myrddin Seren

    #2897703, posted on January 3, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    You’re on fire lately MS.

  189. Myrddin Seren

    What, no inspirational navy films shown?

    I thought you would never ask.

    And timely, too !

  190. OldOzzie

    Former Lendlease chairman David Crawford fears there could be ‘more Opal Towers’

    One of Australia’s most experienced executives and company directors, former Lendlease chairman David Crawford, fears there could be more Opal Towers in Australia, after a building and construction boom which has attracted new players and may have produced questionable projects.

    The former chair of the leading international property development company was speaking in the wake of the cracks which have appeared in Sydney’s 36-storey Opal Tower apartment building.

    Mr Crawford believes that in the current apartment boom, builders have been put under extensive pressure to complete projects, which might have affected the quality of their work.

    “I suspect there probably are more, I mean I only know what I have read in the press, but it does seem as though there are a number of issues which haven’t been addressed and you have got to ask yourself why,’’ Mr Crawford said

  191. None

    It’s not just the quality of construction work: some of these new towers are experimenting with different designs which have not been tested. Relying on theory.

  192. cohenite

    Top Ender

    #2897681, posted on January 3, 2019 at 1:48 pm

    +1

  193. None, was Christ dignified on the Cross? Was Mary dignified witnessing Christ’s suffering? Was St Stephen dignified in front of his accusers and murderers? And so on. I think you might now comprehend what CL meant above.

  194. candy

    Setka has a thuggish smug look to him, like a person the police would not be unfamiliar with. He looks an intimidating character. I wonder how wealthy he is.

  195. OldOzzie

    Gen Z Is Forgoing College to Attend Trade Schools, and This Is Horrid News for the Left

    Generation Z, the generation coming up after Millennials, are proving that they’re going to be the next great generation in terms of not being an ungrateful waste of space.

    A report from Vice last year pointed out that Gen Z, which consists of those born between the mid-’90s through the early 2000s are attempting to avoid the mistakes of millennials, and focus on getting jobs that pay well without acquiring useless degrees and crushing debt:

    For decades, technical and vocational schools have been falling out of favor, as more and more people opt for getting advanced degrees at four-year colleges. But recently, with the job market over-promising and underpaying, the trend has begun to reverse: States have started to reinvest in trade schools. And the generation inheriting volatile job prospects, a gig economy, and contract pay is following suit.

    Generation Z—those who were born between the mid-1990s and early 2000s—are more often turning to trade schools to avoid the skyrocketing student debt crisis and hone skills that translate directly into jobs, from electrical engineering to cosmetology. While the power of trade unions has dwindled, and societal value still favors more elite professions, young students are finding themselves drawn to stable paychecks in fields where there’s an obvious need

  196. Memoryvault

    They did show reruns of Gilligan’s Island in the canteen.

    Mrs MV, wife of a navy officer when I met her, tells me Gilligan had a better equipped navy than Australia did in the late 70’s.

  197. areff

    Who could the ALP tax to save the budget bacon?

    Cyclists and vegans for starters

  198. Infidel Tiger

    Labuschange was a good inclusion.

    Pie chucking grade player.

  199. Black Ball

    Labuschange was a good inclusion.
    Pujara could be a run a ball of Marnus has a couple more overs.

  200. Memoryvault

    Who could the ALP tax to save the budget bacon?

    If anything, they are more likely to cut taxes overall.
    We live in interesting times.

  201. areff

    Myrddin: Not all the heroes on HMS Amethyst were bipeds:

    http://www.purr-n-fur.org.uk/famous/simon.html

    Simon set an example, alas unheeded, and killed big rat Mao Tse-Tung.

  202. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mrs MV, wife of a navy officer when I met her, tells me Gilligan had a better equipped navy than Australia did in the late 70’s.

    HMAS Melbourne was effective enough at wreaking death and devastation on other vessels, surely?

  203. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2897722, posted on January 3, 2019 at 3:08 pm

    Labuschange was a good inclusion.

    Pie chucking grade player.

    A fielding all-rounder.

  204. Rae

    Nothing is more dignified than suffering.

    Yes, sure. Tell that to a cancer patient undergoing intense chemotherapy. With uncontrollable green diarrhea running out of their tail while they are at the same time constantly gagging and vomiting up dark green bile. Tell it to them while they are crying in their extremis, moaning that they just want to die and will you please, please stop treatment.

    You know nothing of suffering. Just mealy mouthed words about so-called dignity.

  205. Infidel Tiger

    Rae how long until you pop your clogs?

  206. Memoryvault

    HMAS Melbourne was effective enough at wreaking death and devastation on other vessels, surely?

    Well, when you put it that way . . .

    Afternoon, Zulu.

  207. Mother Lode

    The key difference between nationalism generally and German nationalism is that the latter was based on “race” (volk)

    Sorry for the late response but I had to nip out to buy some wine.

    I read a rather neat contrast by someone or other that Mussolini was a national socialist it was based on citizenship and they didn’t really care for your ethnicity, while the Nazis were racial socialists. The nation (which had not and not exist yet) they were supposedly dedicated to was to be an administrative manifestation of race. They were happy to search in other nations for Aryans to be part of them, and were happy to slaughter Germans who weren’t.

    If some of them moved here and they had interesting cuisine I am sure our progressives would be telling us we should celebrate their contribution to Australia.

  208. cohenite

    You know nothing of suffering. Just mealy mouthed words about so-called dignity.

    How long have you got?

  209. Mother Lode

    Sodding moderation.

  210. Elle

    Jason Bloomberg said: “Purveyors of hate speech often speak in ‘dog whistles,’ a kind of code in attempts to disguise their evil intent … with ‘bank’ being a dog whistle for ‘global J*wish conspiracy.’”

  211. Johno

    India 6 out… all out.

    Australia 6 out.. the batting starts.

  212. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    flashback

  213. Memoryvault

    Sodding moderation.

    Don’t complain. At least we have plenty of company today.

  214. Baldrick

    The end can’t come soon enough.

  215. RobK

    Elle,
    What Jason Bloomberg said may be a thing, i dont know, but to use it as some kind of rule makes using english language somewhat difficult.

  216. stackja

    Two men stabbed at Sydney Scientology headquarters
    Christopher Harris, Ashleigh Gleeson, The Daily Telegraph
    12 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    A man stabbed at the Church of Scientology’s Australasian headquarters in Sydney has died in hospital.

    The 24-year-old man was taken to Royal North Shore Hospital after being stabbed at the Chatwood centre but later died in hospital.

    A 16-year-old boy was asked to leave the centre on Grenville St in Chatswood about 12.30pm today. He was being walked out by church employees when the incident happened.

    He was being escorted off the leafy property by a 24-year-old man before the younger man allegedly drew a 25-centimetre long kitchen knife and cut his throat.

    “With that knife he stabbed a 24-year-old … Taiwanese male in the neck and he also caused lacerations to an older gentleman also escorting him from the premises,” Detective Chief Inspector Simon Jones said.

    The 24-year-old man is an employee of the Church of Scientology and is believed to be of Taiwanese descent.

    North Shore Police Area Command Detective Chief Inspector Simon Jones said police had to draw their Tasers to get the teenager to drop his knife.

  217. stackja

    “At this stage it is very early, it would appear the altercation or the reason the young person has been removed from the premises is only and solely related to a domestic incident that occurred yesterday.”

    He said the domestic incident yesterday was not related to the church but after learning of the incident Scientology staff decided he should leave the premises.

    Another employee of the church, around 40 years of age, has cuts on his hands from the incident.

    Officers from North Shore Police Area Command attended and arrested a 16-year-old boy.

    A grey Mitsubishi Lancer left the police scene just after 2pm and an occupant of the car had a piece of clothing covering his head.

    He was taken to Chatswood Police Station where he is assisting with inquiries.

    A NSW Ambulance spokesman said they were called at 12.30pm and four crews and a helicopter attended the scene.

    The massive 13,500 square metre building — which was opened in September 2016 — is the largest Scientology centre outside the United States. The site formerly housed the National Acoustic Laboratory and was purchased by the church for a reported $37 million in 2014.

  218. Snoopy

    before the younger man allegedly drew a 25-centimetre long kitchen knife and cut his throat.

    Mmm.

  219. Oh come on

    I hear there was an incident at a Sydney Scientology centre and Scientology membership in Australia has fallen by 50% as a consequence.

  220. stackja

    Internet goes nuts for Tropical Cyclone Penny
    Toni Benson-rogan, News Mail
    January 3, 2019 9:51am

    PEOPLE are swiping right for hilarious images of Tropical Cyclone Penny.

    Followers of the cyclone found it too hard to handle the unsolicited weather pic, with Higgins Storm Chasing taking to Facebook to share the side-splitting love story of Penny and Far North Queensland.

    “Penny divorced Gulf after one day then went out with Cape for the night and is now married to Coral,” the post read.

    “I’ll just leave it there I think and leave the whole graphic up to your imagination.”

  221. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    moaning that they just want to die and will you please, please stop treatment.

    Sounds like natural childbirth to me. The only way out of it is through it. No wonder so many husbands get a lot of lip during the transition to Second Stage. What agonies women in obstructed labour suffered in the past!

    The past is a horrible place where people suffered untold pain and misery due to illnesses, and each sex had its own specific horrors; men in war and injuries, with the loss of limb and functions, women in childbirth, and the long dragging aftermath of too many children and no proper treatment for the terrible effects – things like fistula, uterine collapse, urinary incontinence etc. Result: full graveyards of young people and sudden death for everyone just around any corner. Still happens of course, but we moderate it better. We have drugs to help still the fear and pain of it, and treatments that while awful, can end up making you better; or not worse. If you are lucky. Stoic philosophy to the fore, always a help, and let us all be thankful for modern dentistry.

  222. Memoryvault

    The massive 13,500 square metre building — which was opened in September 2016 — is the largest Scientology centre outside the United States. The site formerly housed the National Acoustic Laboratory and was purchased by the church for a reported $37 million in 2014.

    So, we lost a medical scientific research facility and gained a cult church.

    Marvelous.

  223. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Blockchain and bowties, Simpy?
    There’s a thread, over there put up by Sinc, just waiting for your input.

  224. vlad

    China has landed a probe on the far side of the moon.

  225. Oh come on

    If this turns out to be an Islamic terror attack, all I can say is suck shit, Scientologists. You co-opt the cross and call your cult a church in a cynical attempt to fool the public into thinking you have some association with Christianity. You think this will legitimise your ‘religion’ and help preserve your tax-exempt status. Then, oops! You’re mistaken as Christians by Islamic extremists.

    That being said, I can think of several reasons why someone might be driven to attack representatives of the cult of Scientology that have nothing to do with Islamic extremism.

  226. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Suffering is a fact of fallen and sinful creation. If you think suffering is dignified then so is sin.

    That sounds like a more rational way for Christians to look at suffering, rather than just saying learn to love it. It is very helpful to realise that when it comes to religious beliefs there are many possible interpretations of what certain texts or beliefs really relate to that is Holy. If only the Islamics would start to get more interpretive and loosen the chains of literality as ‘delivered’ to a revered warlord in the seventh century.

  227. Myrddin Seren

    China has landed a probe on the far side of the moon.

    Uh oh……

  228. Stimpson J. Cat

    Imagine for a second not being able to talk about banks on an Economics Blog.

    And I’m the one who is Mentally Ill.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ja ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

    Classic.

  229. Stimpson J. Cat

    Blockchain and bowties, Simpy?
    There’s a thread, over there put up by Sinc, just waiting for your input.

    Ssssh.
    I’m trying not to be annoying.

  230. Oh come on

    So, we lost a medical scientific research facility and gained a cult church.

    Marvelous.

    MV resents the competition.

  231. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    China lands probe on far side of moon, state TV says

    AFP
    8 minutes ago January 3, 2019

    A Chinese lunar rover landed on the dark side of the moon, in a global first that boosts Beijing’s ambitions to become a space superpower.

    The Chang’e-4 probe landed at 10:26am Beijing time and sent a photo of the far side of the moon to the Queqiao satellite, which will relay communications to controllers on Earth, state broadcaster CCTV said.

    Beijing is pouring billions into its military-run space programme, with hopes of having a crewed space station by 2022, and of eventually sending humans to the moon.

    The Chang’e-4 lunar probe mission — named after the moon goddess in Chinese mythology — launched last December from the southwestern Xichang launch centre.

    It is the second Chinese probe to land on the moon, following the Yutu (Jade Rabbit) rover mission in 2013.

    Unlike the near side of the moon that always faces the earth and offers many flat areas to touch down on, the far side is mountainous and rugged.

    Breaking news, from the Oz.

  232. Stimpson J. Cat

    China has landed a probe on the far side of the moon.

    Nazi bases and Transformers here we come!!!

  233. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m heading to Israel this year with a mix of Christian and J*wish friends. So excited!

    Stay in the Jerusalem Old Town if you can, Elle. There is nothing like it.
    The big five stars are outside it, and you can usually walk in, but to live in it is special.

    We greatly enjoyed the atmosphere of Sephardic House, a stone’s throw from The Wall.

  234. Eyrie

    “China has landed a probe on the far side of the moon.”

    How far from the Nazi base?

  235. Memoryvault

    Sounds like natural childbirth to me.

    I read your comment out to Mrs MV, Lizzie.
    She’s still on the floor cacking herself laughing.
    While nodding her head in agreement.

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