Monday Forum: January 7, 2019

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  1. pete m

    Jupes, that legislation seems OTT. It is saying to any govt contractor you must express your politics this way, not that way. I can’t see how it gets past the 1st amendment. Congress cannot legislate away that conflict.

    Peel out the target – as offensive as BDS is, and focus on the principle.

    Imagine a democrat president and lawmakers targeting so called far right extremists for their views on immigration and using govt contracts to do it. thin edge etc.

  2. struth

    You just lost…again. Like the fat fucking piece of Socialist barely human loser garbage you are.

    You know, I thought I hated socialists………………………………………….looks like you’re lagging well behind Zulu

  3. jupes

    Australia Test squad:
    Tim Paine (c), Josh Hazlewood (vc), Joe Burns, Pat Cummins, Marcus Harris, Travis Head, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Will Pucovski, Matt Renshaw, Mitchell Starc, Peter Siddle

    Marsh Bros gorn! Now to get rid of Khawaja.

    Pucovski is interesting. Scored a double ton but had to take a ‘mental health’ break straight after. WTF?

  4. JC

    Monster is correct to say that the Western Allies went socialist during the war in his depraved socialist way. Classic Liberals such as von Mises spoke about this in his book, Human Action. It’s called war economics, which is applied when a nation is engaged in all out war. You could call it socialist war economics. Socialism is great if you want to make 4 sizes of uniforms in Khaki, 6 sizes of boots in black and no deviation. You make an assembly line and let it roll. But it’s only applied during this period and when the war is over things go back to market economics.

    To suggest the Allies and the Nazis were the same because during a period of all out war, the Allies followed socialist practices is the height of idiocy.

    Like the Soviets, the Nazis were unable to determine the price of products produced because they had broken the price mechanism that allows markets to calculate the price. One of the functions of their London embassy was to report back to Berlin what products were being sold for in the UK.

    Monster was also suggesting that because the Nazis left the ownership in the hands of some industrialists, it means they were capitalists. Having the threat of a noose around your neck is not capitalism. It’s laughable to even suggest it.

  5. jupes

    Peel out the target – as offensive as BDS is, and focus on the principle.

    There was a reason Stimpy posted that twitter exchange and it had nothing to do with legislation or principle.

    Something else attracted his eye and I was just pointing it out.

  6. rickw

    The Russians were on Hitler’s side at the Start.

    They were on Hitlers side right up until the Nazi’s started shooting at them.

    They got such a flogging at the start because Stalin refused to believe that his best buddy would double cross him he and specifically banned any preparations to repel a potential invasion.

  7. You know, I thought I hated socialists…

    To quote the late, great Saint Margaret;
    “I HATE SOCIALISM.”

    Hating Socialists and eradicating every last particle of the spiteful, nasty, hate-filled, bigoted, fascist ideology is (or should be) the core function and primary purpose of every decent human being.

    Aside from the oddball basement dweller WE beat the far-right OF SOCIALISM. They’re gone. Vanquished, vaporised. But WE only did half the job 70 years ago. WE still have the other half to go.

  8. Stimpson J. Cat

    Jules if you need a mental health break just say so.

  9. rickw

    You could call it socialist war economics. Socialism is great if you want to make 4 sizes of uniforms in Khaki, 6 sizes of boots in black and no deviation.

    At a micro level, the Russians were forced to introduce capitalism, production bonuses for workers.

  10. Howard Hill

    FMD. NO BLOODY NETWORK, dead on arrival. Didn’t even work for one minute.

    Someone please remind me why we’re paying for this crap?
    Where’s that yellow vest I used to have?

  11. Beertruk

    stackja
    #2902135, posted on January 9, 2019 at 7:54 am
    Pub bans lemon, lime and bitters from being served to anyone younger than 18

    Had a monthly ‘lets go out and have lunch at the pub but no alcohol’ more than a few years ago. One of the ladies decided to have a lemon lime and bitters. Unfortunately the young idiot supervisor who was with us decided to big note himself and also to get brownie points, went straight to our boss and ‘dobbed her in’ because ‘lemon, lime and bitters has alcohol in it.’ That resulted in a hearing with teh HR, boss and idiot supervisor and a formal letter for her, despite other workmates saying that you can buy it in the softdrink section at supermarkets and one workmate saying that one of his friends, a barmaid said that ‘we legally serve it in the pub to kids because the alcohol content in it is miniscule.’ A few years later I got even with the little shitehead supervisor and boss, but that is another story.

  12. DrBeauGan

    jupes
    #2902404, posted on January 9, 2019 at 1:53 pm
    Peel out the target – as offensive as BDS is, and focus on the principle.

    There was a reason Stimpy posted that twitter exchange and it had nothing to do with legislation or principle.

    Something else attracted his eye and I was just pointing it out.

    You may be right, Jupes, but that doesn’t invalidate his argument. On the face of it, banning people from calling for BDS is a violation of the first amendment.

    I agree that such people are nasty shits, but once you start censoring people because they are nasty shits, you’re on a slippery slope. That’s what lefties think is OK.

  13. Stimpson J. Cat

    There was a reason Stimpy posted that twitter exchange and it had nothing to do with legislation or principle.
    Something else attracted his eye and I was just pointing it out.

    So you agree with the legislation and would vote for it?
    And you have the nerve to call me a Nazi!
    Outrageous.
    Go on, tell us your position.
    I bet you won’t.

  14. To suggest the Allies and the Nazis were the same because during a period of all out war, the Allies followed socialist practices is the height of idiocy.

    And yes, that is exactly what struth is doing. A mental giant he is not.

  15. Beertruk

    Mater
    #2902159, posted on January 9, 2019 at 8:41 am
    Guys, I’m sorry for the relatively long post but I came across this exchange under a video I posted a couple of days ago (about National Socialism).
    If you want to know how to win, watch this women go. Watch her pivot, it’s masterful.
    I think Struth would approve.

    Mater, could you please repost the link to the vid? You have me interested in it. I have tried to find your previous post to it, but I haven’t had any success.

  16. Boambee John

    Of couese, we might recall that while in his cups a couple of weeks ago, m0nty published here his political manifesto for a government by “expert” bureaucrats. Let me think of an expert bureaucrat who had a big role in a government! Oh yes, Albert Speer. For whom did he work? I wonder!

    So m0nty, when in vino veritas and miserable about his failing business, admits that his ideal is a fascist government.

  17. Razor

    A couple of points of interest for me from the discussion on Socialism and Communism. The first was the erstwhile contributor who stated the fascist state has death camps the socialists / communists (I know they’re not the same thing by the way) do not. Where would that put places like Siberia under the old USSR and Kampuchea under Pol Pot?

    The next was the musings of a few regarding Socialism and unionism. Totalitarian leftist regime’s aren’t really big on trade unions. You see they give people a say and an opportunity to criticise the system. An historical example was the attempt by Polish farmers to form a Union just after Solidarity formed. The Polish Communist Government under instructions from Moscow would, under no circumstances, allow it. They knew Poland was the food bowl of Europe until leftist ideology got hold of it then all of a sudden they couldn’t feed Poland let alone anybody else! Some of the Polish farms weren’t even collectivised but they were still told what to plant, when to plant, when to harvest and who to sell to. See what was happenning there? It’s called regulation of food production. Now below is a link to a paper which tells a story about Germany’s pre-war efforts regarding the production of food. Now compare the two. The moment anyone mentions the regulation of food production I see the word socialism but maybe I’m just a bit old fashioned or maybe its because I just never gained that Arts degree…….well I never enrolled so maybe that’s why.

    http://www.helsinki.fi/iehc2006/papers3/Spoerer85.pdf

  18. Mother Lode

    M0nty, you do dig so deep to find such things!

    It is a matter of faith for Monts.

    He is a devotee of the mystical cult of The Great Rake.

    The Great Rake permeates the universe.

    The number of its tines dwarfs the number of grains of sand in the sea.

    It was The Great Rake that swept up the stars and into the majestic whorls we call galaxies.

    The Great Rake that gave impetus and order to the electrons in atoms. Each new reality that pops into existence.

    Whenever new ideas, places, times or things, spring into existence in the human mind The Great Rake exists there – like the dawn and its light.

    All bow to The Great Rake. All praise to The Great Rake. And lots of head bandages when you follow the way of The Great Rake.

  19. Bruce in WA

    After my stent (last week of September 2018), I was on a beta-blocker (Metoprolol) for three months, as well as Clopidogrel (for 12 months) and Cartia (permanently). Clopidogrel can have some interesting (!) side effects.

  20. Pucovski is interesting. Scored a double ton but had to take a ‘mental health’ break straight after. WTF?

    Modern Australian cri kwt is averse to success. In such an environment, how is this surprising?

  21. Rae:

    Cardiac stent placement is mostly an uneventful minimally-invasive procedure. Done in the Cath Lab, not in theatre.

    Yes – it’s a simple step beyond cardiac catheterisation, I’ve had about eight of them. mostly for biopsies, but three were to find out why my cardiac muscle had gone tits up. I’ve also assisted as an RN in five.

  22. Rockdoctor

    Bruce in WA
    #2902483, posted on January 9, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    Clopidogrel, I bruise easy now and had issues where they went in through the femoral artery & did the angiogram with bruising… Family hereditary curse means someone usually considered too young for these drugs & heart disease doom me to them for the rest of my existence…

  23. Tailgunner

    Rothschild sprog, Christine Lagarde.

    Is that proscribed Nazi talk, Jupes?

  24. Tracey Died Soon After A Long Fought Civil War

    National Socialism was a Marxist heresy? Interesting. Who first came up with this taxonomy?

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