Wednesday Forum: January 9, 2019

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  1. None

    Meetings with colleagues are just a way to avoid actual work.

    Meetings with colleagues are a completely different kettle oc fish to meeting with clients who buy your goods or services. During most of my time in corporatopia I only held stand up meetings with my staff because it kept them short and discouraged people from waffling. No agenda no meeting. Every agenda item had a goal whether it was a decision or something else. Anyone in corporate opium knows that you certainly have to do a bit of ego massaging and on the way particularily of your boss. One of your prime jobs apart from the bottom line is making your boss look good. Having a good relationship with your clients where you have built trust and keep open lines of communication will serve you well when the shit hits the fan. You can’t guarantee that of course because some people are just bastards that you can still maintain honest business relationships without being a time waster or a schmuck.

  2. thefrolickingmole

    Paternalism is about treating the rest of the human race as small children who need to be looked after.

    Its the deep seated belief that the world can be perfected and the crooked timber of humanity set straight by the passing of a few more laws to “protect” people from their own choices, while simultaneously trying to mitigate the consequences of those same bad choices.

    In effect self defeating, bad consequences for bad actions is how the world works. Remove that and the “market signal” is gone.

    Its the same sort of retarded thinking that holds both of these statements to be true.
    : Harsher penalties for crime doesnt reduce offending.
    : We need higher and harsher penalties for traffic offences.

  3. DrBeauGan

    I think that Bolt gets frightened a lot nowadays. He has lost his mojo…he wants to be liked by his enemies. Having said that, getting attacked on the street would frighten a lot of people….and rightly so.

    I’d have thought being attacked by a few oafs and seeing them off would be exhilarating. I found it so when it happened to me. Of course, I was much younger then. About seven, in fact.

    Perhaps Andrew went to the wrong sort of school.

  4. feelthebern

    Bolta has a martyr complex.

  5. You have to distinguish the social conservative, which most people are from the economic conservative. Latham still has socialist economic ideas, which are, to be kind, confused.

    Paternalism and Paternalistic Conservative are not the same. Latham is very pragmatic when it comes to economics, his ideas are not set in stone and he certainly agrees with a lot of libertarian economic ideas. In a practical sense he adopts some socialist economic ideas but he is not bent in that direction permanently, it is a “where and when necessary / required” which is what a PC is.
    Theory and reality just don’t mix that well which is why he was a bad fit for the LDP. Theoretically, I am for school vouchers and getting the state out of education but practically you couldn’t do this for at least 10 years as you would have to right the wrongs of the current “system” first by rooting out all the Marxist teachers and having them flogged in public before instituting a rigorous pro-Western curriculum of back-to-basics teaching administered by an army of Mr Gormsbys.

  6. Infidel Tiger

    Guys like Bolt, Blair and Steyn etc, just never made the leap to the social media age.

    They’ve been left behind.

    If you ain’t owning libs 24/7 on Twitter you are no one now.

  7. DrBeauGan

    Its the deep seated belief that the world can be perfected and the crooked timber of humanity set straight by the passing of a few more laws to “protect” people from their own choices, while simultaneously trying to mitigate the consequences of those same bad choices.

    In effect self defeating, bad consequences for bad actions is how the world works. Remove that and the “market signal” is gone.

    People over the age of sixteen should not be protected from themselves. When they kill themselves off, that’s evolution in action. Paternal and maternal impulses should be saved for genuine children.

  8. None

    Yes Latham is more pragmatic than ideological. Apart from the education policy I think he might also be behind one Nations human rights reform policy. When was the last time you heard any poliricin suggest that sort of reform question mark while it it is pine the sky because no matter how well one nation does in the New South Wales elections I doubt that it will win government or being a position to wield any meaning for influence but I think a human right through form policy is the first policy that has actually even caught my attention for the last two years. I however don’t live in New South Wales. On the other hand I would be rooting for anyone who would overhaul the New South Wales jurisdiction given their ADB seems to think that it can control people that live anywhere else in the world.

  9. feelthebern

    Guys like Bolt, Blair and Steyn etc, just never made the leap to the social media age.

    Steyn is such a great performer, so his TV spots make up for his lack of twitter.
    Blair needs to get his arse onto twitter immediately.
    He would be the Australian Iowahawk.
    Bolta is a dinosaur. He should stick to his radio spot talking over people. His blog is turd. His show is turd.

  10. None

    Haha it’s so hot here that the VRS has gone totally spazo.y

  11. Rae

    Mark Latham & David Leyonhjelm both just want to get 8 years on the public teat courtesy of the tax payers of NSW.

    Absolutely correct.

  12. None

    Social liberalism and economic conservatism are largely incompatible.

  13. None

    I don’t begrudge Latham having a tilt at the New South Wales upper house. Leyonhjelm on the other hand is just a hypocrite and a chancer.

  14. bespoke

    contempt for ordinary people

    Well the right has always been outflanked with mother hood statements deifying groups like the working man and others. If the right spent some time working a nuance that includes people that are content doing the dirty jobs instead of belittling them they may have chance. Also we wouldn’t have to import so many to do the things Australians do not want to do.

  15. Roger

    If you’re going to play like a 1980s Australian cricket team you might as well look like them too:

    Australians to sport retro kit for one day series against India.

  16. stackja

    feelthebern
    #2904642, posted on January 11, 2019 at 4:04 pm
    For those with a WSJ login, Kimberley Strassel has a good piece up about how Obama was a total c*nt re his 2013 shut down & how the Trump shutdown is very different.

    OPINION POTOMAC WATCH
    Trump’s New Shutdown World
    In 2013, Obama tried to maximize the difficulty. OMB is taking another tack.
    61 Comments
    By Kimberley A. Strassel
    Jan. 10, 2019 6:58 p.m. ET
    This weekend the federal shutdown becomes the longest in history—and yet, and yet, the sky has not fallen. Meet the team that has allowed the Trump White House to hold out for so long, and in the process forever altered future shutdown fights.
    Across the street from the Oval Office, an only somewhat merry band of budget lawyers labor on one priority: making this event as painless as possible. That was the order from President Trump when the government closed, and the Office of Management and Budget was ready. Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney had spent months as OMB director gearing up for a stoppage. Acting Director Russ Vought was all in. And OMB General Counsel Mark Paoletta and his small legal team (those not furloughed) has spent every day since putting out fires.
    It’s the opposite of prior shutdown thinking. The Obama White House used a 16-day shutdown in 2013 to punish Republicans for withholding funds, and in the process penalized the nation. The administration immediately furloughed workers and cut pay for private contractors. It shuttered Head Start, suspended money for health care in the District of Columbia, and sealed national parks, including war memorials on the National Mall. Some agencies had carry-over funds that would have allowed them to continue operations; they refused to use it.
    Some shutdown pain is unavoidable—and correctly so. Both the Constitution and the Antideficiency Act are clear that only Congress appropriates money, and no one should want the executive branch to flout clear legal requirements. Shutdowns are also wasteful and highlight Washington’s inability to function.
    Yet since Mr. Trump “owns” this one, Republicans have an incentive to minimize the suffering. Congressional Republicans helped themselves by last year passing bills that kept most of the government open. As for the rest, it turns out the law provides some useful flexibility—when an administration cares to exercise it.
    A series of OMB memos stretching back to 1981 had already established certain shutdown exceptions. Agencies can continue to function as necessary to protect safety and human life and property, as well as in aid of the president’s fulfilling constitutional duties. Those programs that operate under “indefinite” appropriations, including Social Security and Medicare, also continue. The current OMB team has employed some of these doctrines in ways past administration haven’t but which nonetheless make obvious sense. The Food and Drug Administration, for instance, has on the grounds of safety continued to monitor adverse reactions to medical devices, conduct foreign drug-factory inspections, and watch for outbreaks of food contamination.
    Lawyers have scoured other statutes for legal outs. It turns out that Congress’s latest spending bill, the continuing resolution that ended Dec. 21, contained a provision allowing the government to pay certain obligations that came due within 30 days. That’s allowed OMB to rush food-stamp payments for millions of Americans through February. It was the Interior Department’s own reading of prior statutes that allowed it to use entrance fees to keep national parks open.
    Then there’s the past OMB legal finding that unfunded agencies can continue providing services that are “necessary” to funded ones or to mandatory services. An easy example: The Social Security Administration and Treasury Department, both technically shut down, must nonetheless process Social Security checks that operate under continuous appropriations.
    That’s also why Americans will still get tax refunds. The OMB team dug through Treasury documents and found that long ago the Internal Revenue Service had determined refunds fall under permanent, indefinite appropriations. IRS workers are being recalled from furlough to process them.
    Some critics claim these workarounds are “illegal,” but lawyers say the Trump team looks to be on sound footing—especially given these decisions have been approved by career OMB lawyers. And also because the Trump team continues to nix proposals that fall too close to the legal line.
    Yet there are no legal fixes for some truly painful effects—including Friday’s missed paycheck for 800,000 federal workers. And many patches were one-time wonders. There can be no additional payments for food stamps or for the Coast Guard. The pressure on Mr. Trump will only rise from here, and some Republicans are already nervous. Prepare for a lot more talk about national-emergency declarations.
    But no matter the immediate outcome, the administration’s “painless as possible” approach has shifted the appropriations landscape. House Democrats will have to confront a new set of political calculations in budget negotiations during the Trump presidency. And future administrations will have a harder time justifying ugly shutdowns, in light of this example. Yet another way the Trump administration has changed Washington.

  17. lotocoti

    An entirely different topic:
    SBS missed the opportunity to achieve eternal programming glory by not following Butterfly with The State.

  18. stackja

    Ex-diplomat sought boys online, court told
    Karen Sweeney, Australian Associated Press
    42 minutes ago

  19. Bruce of Newcastle

    Don’t you just love fake Republicans who slag off Trump, are booted from office, then immediately get jobs with the lefty MSM? Two in the last week:

    Report: Jeff Flake in Discussions to Join CBS News (10 Jan)

    LOL: Mia Love Hired By CNN (7 Jan)

    They’re exactly what Surber says: petting zoo Republicans. Soft and fluffy and guaranteed to baa sweetly on prompting.

  20. None

    No I think Steyn and Blair did right not to go onto twitter. It takes a lot of effort to maintain a good Twitter feed and keep control of the trolls who will always try to get you banned and both Steyn and Blair have more important things to do to earn a living. But would probably be banned by his employer from having a Twitter feed because so many people hate him they would be seeking further opportunities for lawfare

  21. feelthebern

    Thanks stackja.
    I’m not one for posting full articles, but appreciate that you did.

  22. struth

    They’ll call a black out on Fraser Anning now, but if he gets a few yellow vests into Canberra, they won’t be able to help themselves.
    They’ll have teams of lefties pretending to be Nazis and giving the salute.
    Except, the ironing being, they are exactly that and they’ll feel naturally at home doing it.
    And if they are Nazis, according to them , should we not bash them?
    The anti fa poofs and whores will be out in numbers and the media won’t be able to help themselves.
    This goes back to many a discussion here.
    We don’t win at the ballot box by itself.
    Not in this country.
    We win outside it, or we don’t win.

    I am just trying to clear my way with a few jobs tailgunner, (no one’s rung me back yet, and if they don’t I may just wear the consequences and go anyway) .

    It’s our duty to go if possible.
    Mrs Struth said……………………..great, that’s my birthday, so much for that
    I said I’ll bloody well take you out to dinner in Canberra.

    I’ve got heaps of old yella vests for her to choose from.

  23. Old School Conservative

    Infidel Tiger
    #2904677, posted on January 11, 2019 at 5:00 pm
    Guys like Bolt, Blair and Steyn etc, just never made the leap to the social media age.

    Perhaps their target market isn’t on social media either.

  24. Infidel Tiger

    Perhaps their target market isn’t on social media either.

    Boomers who can’t get their Alta Vista browser to open or remeber their OzEmail account password.

  25. stackja

    Emergency services responding to reports male in twenties stabbed in neck at Bossley Park
    Christopher Harris and Mark Morri, The Daily Telegraph
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    A motorcycle-helmet wearing assailant stabbed a man while he was sitting in the chair of a salon getting a haircut in a suspected targeted attack, according to witnesses.

    The victim, believed to be in his mid-20s, was stabbed in his “upper body” at the salon in Bossley Park in Sydney’s west.

  26. Bruce of Newcastle

    Don’t you just love socialist champions of the wukkas?

    ‘Democratic Socialist’ Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Fined by New York for Failing to Provide Workers’ Comp

    “Democratic socialist” Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) has been fined by the State of New York for failing to carry workers’ compensation insurance for a month during her congressional campaign last year.

    The New York Daily News reported Thursday:

    “The employer did not have the required workers’ compensation coverage from March 31, 2018, to April 30, 2018, and was issued a final penalty of $1,500, which was paid,” state Workers Compensation Board spokeswoman Melissa Stewart said. “This coverage is vital to ensuring workers are protected for on-the-job injuries.”

    And in the NYDN too! Must’ve really hurt the journo sisterhood to have to report it.

  27. Old School Conservative

    The Tele reports on a motorcycle rider, with helmet and L plates, stabbing a haircut customer in the throat in what police call a “targeted attack” in Bossley Park.

    What sort of psychopath follows the rules of the road but also tries to kill a person in a barbaric manner?

  28. DrBeauGan

    What sort of psychopath follows the rules of the road but also tries to kill a person in a barbaric manner?

    One who doesn’t want to get caught.

  29. Old School Conservative

    IT, my Commodore 64 won’t open OzEmail so there’s no need to remember/write down any passwords.

  30. Gab

    What sort of psychopath follows the rules of the road but also tries to kill a person in a barbaric manner?

    The cops would hunt him down if he broke the road rules.

    Anyway, that’s how it happens in Victoriastan.

  31. Traffic offense: 10-15 years
    Murder: 3 year good behaviour bond

  32. Old School Conservative

    Communism? Socialism? Nazism? Democratic Socialism? National Socialism? World Government?
    Doesn’t matter.
    There is only ever one spot at the top for a totalitarian dictator.

  33. Old School Conservative

    Is “Stabbed in the upper body” code for terrorism?

  34. Mark from Melbourne

    I vividly recall chairing a meeting at the kickoff of a retail development back in the late ’80s.

    I was young and stupid, and thought that getting the various players (legals, advertising folk, agents, architects, what have you) around the table would be a “productive” start. Big table… possibly 20+ there.

    Then, having made the obligatory introductory waffle, I turned it over to the assembled throng.

    Unexpectedly, everyone wanted their two cents. On, as it were, my dime. I found myself multiplying the hourly rates.

    Never again have I convened a meeting without a finely tuned agenda, a limit on the number of attendees and a hard time limit.

    Meetings have their place, but not at my expense.

  35. Tel

    There is only ever one spot at the top for a totalitarian dictator.

    And any dictator at the top of the heap who puts hand on heart and talks and equality is full of shit.

    Mind you, the time to call them on it is BEFORE they become dictator, but there you go.

  36. Infidel Tiger

    The only good meetings begin with you handing out candy and 2 minutes later saying ” Bye-bye”

    Meetings are for globalists and public servants.

  37. Mater

    Then, having made the obligatory introductory waffle, I turned it over to the assembled throng.

    A Welcome to Country?

  38. Infidel Tiger

    3 years today since the Thin White Duke carked it:

  39. DrBeauGan

    Infidel Tiger
    #2904711, posted on January 11, 2019 at 5:38 pm
    The only good meetings begin with you handing out candy and 2 minutes later saying ” Bye-bye”

    Meetings are for globalists and public servants.

    You’ve returned to sanity and wit, IT. Keep it up.

  40. Gab

    Meetings should only ever be held standing up.

  41. Snoopy

    Ex-diplomat sought boys online, court told
    Karen Sweeney, Australian Associated Press
    42 minutes ago

    Well that’s different. He’s an ex.

  42. Old School Conservative

    feelthebern
    #2904681, posted on January 11, 2019 at 5:04 pm
    Bolta is a dinosaur. He should stick to his radio spot talking over people. His blog is turd. His show is turd.

    I hope he comes back from his break refreshed and loins girded for the battle against leftism.
    He was looking jaded towards the end of last year.
    He could do with a smidgeon of Rowan Dean’s enthusiasm.

    But who am I to advise a bloke who has been attacked in the street with impunity, lost a leftist lawfare scam, and had to move his children out of home due to death threats.

  43. DrBeauGan

    Infidel Tiger
    #2904715, posted on January 11, 2019 at 5:44 pm
    3 years today since the Thin White Duke carked it:

    Well, that didn’t last long.

  44. feelthebern

    Meetings should only ever be held standing up.

    That’s what Rumsfeld used to do.

  45. Steve trickler

    Some vision worth watching.

    Ricky T confronts Lisa Neville ( Victoria’s Police Minister ) about African Crime.



  46. Infidel Tiger

    That’s what Rumsfeld used to do

    Neo-con swine.

    Should be made to stand up for eternity.

  47. Old School Conservative

    Thanks Steve.
    Well done Ricky T.

  48. Tel

    Meetings should only ever be held standing up.

    Makes it obvious to the speaker when they are putting everyone to sleep.

  49. C.L.

    Anning calmly laid waste to that group of NPC-alists.
    The presser was also informative. So the Nazi-saluters were actually leftist trolls ‘saluting’ the Anning supporters (as ‘Nazis’) and the media then attributed those salutes to the latter. Anning is being too generous describing this as “third-rate journalism.” It was, in fact, orchestrated lying by the media.

    A highlight as his bemused response to “calls” for him to resign.
    From leftists, Anning pointed out.
    No, I won’t be resigning, he scoffed; they should resign.
    Shades of Thatcher humiliating George Negus.

  50. Baldrick

    And just like that, TheirABC Leftards say no to bias …

    Almost 100 former ABC staff members have asked Prime Minister Scott Morrison to disqualify any candidates for the public broadcaster’s chair who have criticised its online activities.
    In an open letter to Mr Morrison released publicly on Friday morning, ABC Alumni – a recently launched lobby group of former employees at the public broadcaster – asked the government to delay choosing a replacement for former chairman Justin Milne.
    “The Federal Government must not rush to appoint a new ABC Chair, especially one who has displayed bias against the national broadcaster’s comprehensive role in Australian society,” the letter says.

  51. John Constantine

    MGV musgrave went for a bit of a run today, bit of volume at year high shareprice.

    The holidays have held up an awaited drilling announcement, so this could be simple anticipation or somebody has a sniff of something.

    I did take up the placement before last and still hold em all, as goldies like Musgrave i reckon can even survive the early years of a shorten looting cartel.

    Not buying or selling now.

  52. JC

    And sharing the podium with Cottrell was also the lying media, was it?

  53. jupes

    He was looking jaded towards the end of last year.

    Sure was. Needs to change his guest list as well. If he is going to invite leftists on to his show, he needs to challenge their stupid ideas with a bit more vigour.

    He could do with a smidgeon of Rowan Dean’s enthusiasm.

    Sure, but Rowan didn’t cover himself in glory either. He is an obvious Liberal Party barracker and doesn’t give them enough stick when Liberals come on his show.

  54. bespoke

    And any dictator at the top of the heap who puts hand on heart and talks and equality is full of shit.

    Are you thinking of the original meaning or the ‘progressives’ interpretation, Tel?

  55. Confused Old Misfit

    “The Federal Government must not rush to appoint a new ABC Chair, especially one who has displayed bias against the national broadcaster’s comprehensive role in Australian society,”

    My God!
    These idiots have an overblown sense of their own importance!
    They think that they are beyond criticism?
    The stench of self-worth is overwhelming!

  56. Tel

    Are you thinking of the original meaning or the ‘progressives’ interpretation, Tel?

    I mean there ain’t much equality in North Korea where one fat man and a handful of ruling military brass lord it over a very hierarchical and status oriented society with slave camps and starving stick people down at the bottom.

    The leftists will promise anything, because promises are easy … if envy gets recruits no problem!

    But what they are interested in is power, and nothing else.

  57. JC

    Anning is another dirty Bernardi play. As bad as Katter is, it was Katter who helped Anning get elected. Anning then does the dirty on Katter’s party and walks off. He then announces the start of his own party. These shenanigans are unprincipled and if Anning had a ounce of principle or a spine, he would have walked out of parliament after leaving Katter’s party and allowed Katter to choose another candidate.

    Anning received a grand total of 19 fucking votes below the line and I bet some of his family members are missing in that total.

    What a canute.

  58. DrBeauGan

    Rumsfeld does get credit in my book for talking about known unknowns and unknown unknowns, and revealing that this was a concept beyond the grasp of lefties.

  59. jupes

    These idiots have an overblown sense of their own importance!

    Indeed. And when the claim that someone “displayed bias” they mean someone who pointed out that the ABC is in breach of its charter to be unbiased.

  60. Black Ball

    And sharing the podium with Cottrell was also the lying media, was it?

    JC as you know perception is everything in politics. This wasn’t good by Anning I agree with you on that. But it’s quite refreshing to see him fight back against those who wish to paint him as a Nazi. Is Anning himself aligned with that mob? I wouldn’t think so.

  61. feelthebern

    Rummy did convince Bush to increase DARPA funding a gazillion per cent.
    That was the only other good thing apart from John Roberts that Bush did in 8 years.

  62. egg_

    “The Federal Government must not rush to appoint a new ABC Chair, especially one who has displayed bias against the national broadcaster’s comprehensive role in Australian society,” the letter says.

    A chair, not a Chairperson?

    How about a tea trolley in remembrance of Teh Great Tea Trolley Disaster of 1967<?

  63. JC

    One other thing about Anning. He’s fucking lying about the salutes. There are enough pics of those dickheads raising their arms from Anning’s side of the fence.

    Also, he’s now changed his story. In a prior interview he said those doing this sort of thing were done by a small contingent well away from the main group, but now it was the left doing it and the media is lying. No principles. It confirms what I said about him a few days ago. He’s seriously stupid.

  64. egg_

    These idiots have an overblown sense of their own importance!

    The echo chamber within the inner sanctum of the sheltered workshop.

  65. Black Ball

    I see that the Academy of Motion Arts reached out to Kevin Hart again to host the Oscars. He told them no which is fantastic. So now the frontrunner to host is the cast of The Avengers in a co hosting role. Probably will need to be checked on passed Twitter posts to determine suitability.

  66. Tailgunner

    Latham, Hanson, Anning, Bernadine…
    No enemies to the right.
    FFS.

  67. bespoke

    Cheers Tel just checking.

  68. egg_

    Rumsfeld does get credit in my book for talking about known unknowns and unknown unknowns, and revealing that this was a concept beyond the grasp of lefties.

    There are no unknowns in the parallel clown universe, just ask m0nster.

  69. JC

    Black Ball

    The prick joined Katter’s party and knew exactly where Katter stood on issues. This wasn’t foreign to him. He gets into parliament and begins to disagree with Katter on material policy differences, leaves and becomes and “independent”. This is skunk behavior. What do liars party call their traitors…. rats. The guy is a lying rat.

    There’s no reason to hang onto this tail. Others will come along anyway. Don’t hold onto losing trades you can’t afford to keep.

  70. jupes

    These shenanigans are unprincipled and if Anning had a ounce of principle or a spine, he would have walked out of parliament after leaving Katter’s party and allowed Katter to choose another candidate.

    Don’t forget he left One Nation first. Nevertheless I can’t fault him for walking out on the idiot Katter.

    Anning is turning into an excellent politician. He is learning how to deal with press and gives it back to them better than any other politician in Australia. No one else is game to challenge them on the immigration scam to the degree he does. He speaks bluntly with no caveats.

    He was also the only politician in Australia to challenge the Chief of the ADF about the emasculation of the armed forces. I just hope he continues to build his profile so he gets re-elected. He is a breath of fresh air in Australia’s turgid political discourse.

  71. Dave in Marybrook

    Clarify that please Tailgunner?

  72. feelthebern

    Anning is just a rent seeker who reckons he’s found a way to keep his snout in the trough for another 6 years.
    Loathsome fellow.
    Politicians should be chosen by public lottery, like the Vietnam draft.

  73. Eyrie

    Fuck off JC, you’re clueless and drunk already.
    Anning ran for One Nation and took his seat as a result of Malcolm Roberts having a claim on dual citizenship. He then joined Katter’s mob who gutlessly caved to the media and the PC Left after his maiden speech in the Senate and expelled him, so he’s now an independent.
    IIRC he left Pauline’s rabble because she reneged on undertakings to vote a certain way on certain issues in the Senate. Anning understands that if you do that nobody can or will ever rely on you and you will have no influence at all. Pauline may have her heart in the right place but she is politically stupid.

  74. Eyrie

    Anning ran for One Nation and took his seat as a result of Malcolm Roberts having a claim on dual citizenship. He then joined Katter’s mob who gutlessly caved to the media and the PC Left after his maiden speech in the Senate and expelled him, so he’s now an independent.
    IIRC he left Pauline’s rabble because she reneged on undertakings to vote a certain way on certain issues in the Senate. Anning understands that if you do that nobody can or will ever rely on you and you will have no influence at all. Pauline may have her heart in the right place but she is politically stupid.

  75. Eyrie

    So is this site now participating in a media blackout on Fraser Anning?

  76. Steve trickler

    Chatter via the grapevine suggests Sky News have pulled this interview from the archives. Now you get to see someone filming the television.



  77. JC

    Jupes

    Katter is most things I hate about politicians. Ignorant, not very bright and rat like cunning to survive at all costs. Having said that, Anning basically had his family and in-laws voting for him below the line having received a grand total of 19 votes. In other words Katter got him elected and the people deserve to have someone from Katter’s party representing them. That’s what they voted for.

  78. Eyrie

    What Tailgunner means is that there are no enemies to the right of us. Bagging those people just helps the left.

  79. DrBeauGan

    Anning is turning into an excellent politician.

    I’m not sure yet, but I shall watch his career with considerable interest. Putting the boot into lefties is doing God’s work, so I am prepared to cut him some slack.

  80. bespoke

    JC

    Bernardi’s situation is different to those that left only after a day or weeks.

  81. Infidel Tiger

    Politicians should be chosen by public lottery, like the Vietnam draft.

    Being shot should be a possibility too.

  82. JC

    f

    eelthebern
    #2904753, posted on January 11, 2019 at 6:29 pm

    Anning is just a rent seeker who reckons he’s found a way to keep his snout in the trough for another 6 years.
    Loathsome fellow.

    Yep. He’s cunning enough to judge there may be a constituency on that side looking to be represented. What a turd though. He’s apparently wealthy enough, but he tries to stick us for the 3k.

  83. Eyrie

    JC, Anning ran for One Nation at the last election. Malcolm Roberts got the slot and Anning replaced him after Roberts ran afoul of s.44. Can you blame him for leaving One Nation?

  84. cohenite

    Anning is just a rent seeker who reckons he’s found a way to keep his snout in the trough for another 6 years.
    Loathsome fellow.
    Politicians should be chosen by public lottery, like the Vietnam draft.

    Hang on, that’s just bullshit; this guy was espousing the same things BEFORE he went into parliament that he is now espousing after he got into parliament.

    He wants all Islamic immigration stopped; who in their right mind would argue against that.

    He wants all sud immigration stopped; ditto.

    He wants Western values espoused and respected. Ditto.

  85. cohenite

    Yep. He’s cunning enough to judge there may be a constituency on that side looking to be represented. What a turd though. He’s apparently wealthy enough, but he tries to stick us for the 3k.

    Seriously head prefect, you wouldn’t know your arse from a hole in the ground. But what can we expect from someone who defends islam.

  86. thefrolickingmole

    Being shot should be a possibility too.

    Nonsense bring back the good local traditional ways of dealing with ex-pollies and lords.

    Cutting the nipples was more than torture. The aim was to dethrone the king. “Sucking a king’s nipples was a gesture of submission in ancient Ireland,” says Kelly. “Cutting them would have made him incapable of kingship in this world or the next.”

    “By using a range of methods to kill the victim, the ancient Irish sacrificed to the goddess in all her forms. This manner of death is peculiar to the ritual killing of kings. It means that a king was being decommissioned.”

  87. JC

    He wants all Islamic immigration stopped; who in their right mind would argue against that.

    He wants all sud immigration stopped; ditto.

    He wants Western values espoused and respected. Ditto.

    Stop trying to create a debate about this when there isn’t one, you skunkhead.

  88. Eyrie

    cohenite, sometimes you have to doubt the intelligence and situational awareness of some of the commenters here.

  89. Eyrie

    Um, I wouldn’t try to shoot Fraser Anning. He’s a competitive pistol shooter.

  90. cohenite

    sometimes you have to doubt the intelligence and situational awareness of some of the commenters here.

    I don’t doubt the intelligence of head prefect; the sob is making a quid out of it.

  91. JC

    But what can we expect from someone who defends islam.

    That’s exactly why a dishonest canute like you should have his arse kicked off this site. The dishonesty and lies that come off your filthy fingers is a disgrace to this place. It’s why the Cat has fallen in a heap in terms of decent, intelligence discussion. You’re a fucking disgrace, Cronkite.

  92. DrBeauGan

    He wants all Islamic immigration stopped; who in their right mind would argue against that.

    He wants all sud immigration stopped; ditto.

    He wants Western values espoused and respected. Ditto.

    That and his last presser are pretty much all I know about him. Seems a good bloke, for a politician.

  93. Snoopy

    There are enough pics of those dickheads raising their arms from Anning’s side of the fence.

    Should be easy enough for you to link to five or six.

  94. None

    A smart politician in one of the Majors would not bother with Fraser Anning; what they will ask themselves is is he raising an issue that has traction with a general public? If so they shpuld address that issue and sideline Fraser Anning – who gives a flying toss if he ratted on Pauline or shat on Katter . The public really doesn’t care how those those petty politics. Any mention that there is a problem in Victoria of course Queensland and WA all those States have labour governments and are therefore ripe for exploitation by the federal Lib Nats. To be fair you could also argue the Victorians gave their state government and mandate to continue doing nothing and so you could even exploit that if you didn’t think there was a problem. Our politicians are not only bereft of any policy they’re also f****** über dumb politicians.

  95. JC

    Go put your uniform on, Cronkite and march down the street. It’s a sunny day. You venomous dishonest canute.

  96. JC

    Should be easy enough for you to link to five or six.

    Back pages of the Oz or search Google. I’m not your “linkest”.

  97. cohenite

    That’s exactly why a dishonest canute like you should have his arse kicked off this site. The dishonesty and lies that come off your filthy fingers is a disgrace to this place. It’s why the Cat has fallen in a heap in terms of decent, intelligence discussion.

    Well, head prefect, what is your opinion of Islamic immigration. Tell us plebs who lower the tone what your esteemed view of islam is.

  98. He wants all Islamic immigration stopped; who in their right mind would argue against that.

    He wants all sud immigration stopped; ditto.

    He wants Western values espoused and respected. Ditto.

    Put him in my state and he gets a vote from me.

  99. jupes

    Katter is most things I hate about politicians. Ignorant, not very bright and rat like cunning to survive at all costs.

    Worse, he has been a poly all his life and he has no principles at all. An absolute fuckwit. Anning on the other hand was a businessman before entering politics.

    Having said that, Anning basically had his family and in-laws voting for him below the line having received a grand total of 19 votes. In other words Katter got him elected and the people deserve to have someone from Katter’s party representing them. That’s what they voted for.

    No, he was initially One Nation but left them pretty much straight away. Maybe he played the system, but you play be the rules as they are.

    Of course the jury is still out, however he appears principled, isn’t cowed by the press and hits all the right notes on the big issues I care about.

  100. bespoke

    thefrolickingmole

    I cant remember the name of the King that got a hot poker up the clacker (trigger None 🙂 ).

  101. cohenite

    Go put your uniform on

    What uniform bonehead; when I blog on this site I do it nude; out of respect.

  102. JC

    You are a fucking lowrent pleb, Cronkite. That’s for sure.

    I’ve asked you numerous questions and you’ve refused to answer them. Go back and answer mine first and I will happily comply, you dishonest piece of turd. Unless I’m mistaken, this is supposed to be a libertarian site. What the fuck are you doing here? Seriously, what are you doing here?

    But Anning….. I know him, he’s my friend.

    LOl

  103. JC

    No, he was initially One Nation but left them pretty much straight away.

    Thanks Jupes. I got the party wrong, but the point still applies.

  104. None

    Anning on the other hand was a businessman before entering politics.

    that pressure was the second time I’ve ever seen any speak and on both occasions he mentioned he was a Publican. So who was the more on here who claim to have met him and that he was a nice guy yada yada and that he was a pilot?

  105. Mater

    A good post earlier about the Left-Right conundrum, Dr BG. You too, Mr Rusty.
    Thanks

  106. cohenite

    What the fuck are you doing here? Seriously, what are you doing here?

    Annoying you obviously; which I think is a good thing.

    I never said Anning was my friend; but I do people who work for him. Do you want me to put in a good word for you?

    Now, your view about islam, dissembler.

  107. JC

    Anning on the other hand was a businessman before entering politics.

    He inherited a lot and I’d better a few dollars the only thing he’s done is keep up with the rate of inflation.

  108. Snoopy

    One can’t be a publican and a pilot? Since when?

  109. Eyrie

    FFS None, being a Publican doesn’t preclude being a nice guy or a pilot. He’s a private pilot and aircraft owner.

  110. bespoke

    JC
    #2904770, posted on January 11, 2019 at 6:40 pm
    He wants all Islamic immigration stopped; who in their right mind would argue against that.
    He wants all sud immigration stopped; ditto.
    He wants Western values espoused and respected. Ditto.

    I do its a simplistic fix to an entrenched problem.

  111. None

    Katter has no rat cuNing. It’s just that he represents an electorate that is f****** frontiersville and doesn’t give a shit. I’ve not met many from up his way but every one of them hates him but couldn’t care less.

  112. JC

    I’m still waiting for the answers to all my questions, Cronkite. Go back, think about your answers post them. I will then happily answer what you’re asking.

    Go!

  113. Snoopy

    I’ve not met many from up his way but every one of them hates him but couldn’t care less.

    Well that settles, er, that.

  114. cohenite

    You’re an empty vessel head prefect. Do something useful, put up some real estate porn.

  115. None

    I’m just pointing out how Anning represents himself Eyrie. He clearly sees his history as a Publican as the most influential for his political career. Every second person from the country has got a pilot licence. Sometimes for no reason than just a hobby.

  116. Snoopy

    Every second person from the country has got a pilot licence.

    LOL

  117. calli

    Edward II, bespoke.

    Although there is some fun historical fiction that has him being whisked away before the dreadful deed.

  118. Tel

    Politicians should be chosen by public lottery, like the Vietnam draft.

    Being shot should be a possibility too.

    I find myself attracted to the Spartan system where they hold a vote at the time you are attempting to LEAVE the job, in order to discover in what sort of condition you will be leaving.

    These ancient gay Greeks rightly understood that it’s pointless holding a vote BEFORE you get into office because how can anyone be able to judge you as a man before you have done anything? Have to judge afterwards … it’s bloody obvious.

    This system also discourages anyone hanging around too long and getting on the nose.

    I believe Sparta was the only Greek city-state to remain independent well into the Roman occupation. They were commies, but they were hard bastard commies with high commitment, low tech and plenty of sodomy.

  119. JC

    You’re an empty vessel head prefect. Do something useful, put up some real estate porn.

    Naaa, but I can’t wait for Cronkit’s Islam today links and foresight.. Always interesting and insightful.

    Whoops.. something sounding like lead just dropped on the floor.

  120. areff

    Two members of India’s one-day squad are in hot water for talking about their sexual conquests and quite likely to be suspended.

    The prime offender: Hardik Panya

    By name and nature, one gathers

  121. JC

    FFS None, being a Publican doesn’t preclude being a nice guy or a pilot. He’s a private pilot and aircraft owner.

    JFK jnr had a pilot license. I think Pauline Hansen flies too. Says a great deal.

    You can pick up those third rate flying death traps for 40 K on the second hand market.

  122. Snoopy

    Two members of India’s one-day squad are in hot water for talking about their sexual conquests and quite likely to be suspended.

    Either the Indian team management didn’t bother with any cultural awareness training or those two bozos were day dreaming. You can’t get away with that shit in Australia unless you’re gay.

  123. jupes

    The prime offender: Hardik Panya

    LOL

  124. min

    Check out the bird who organised the anti fas at St. Kilda last weekend . Her equivalent of Cotterell was someone who had been jailed for murder . This information from michaelsmithnews.

  125. calli

    Here’s a ripping yarn about the death of Edward II. Lots of hijinks in doublet and hose plus a good who-dunnit.

  126. jupes

    Fraser Anning is the ONLY politician in Australia to challenge the emasculation of the ADF.

    For that alone I would vote for him.

  127. None

    Meetings have their place, but not at my expense.

    I see you learnt the hard way Mark. If you have to have a sit down meeting, in addition to hard agenda ( that is so basic it never ceases to astonish me how many people still think you can run a meeting with no agenda), limited participants, hard time limit, put them in a room that is slightly too small for the number of attendees. That not only keeps it high energy, it subliminally encourages people to keep moving through the agenda items so they can get the hell out.

  128. calli

    Areff! 🤣

    Who’s the other one caught behind?

  129. JC

    You can’t trust him, Jupes. He has no ethics.

  130. None

    Even a dill like Susan Ley had a pilot licence.

  131. Boambee John

    Mark from Melbourne at 1736

    Never again have I convened a meeting without a finely tuned agenda, a limit on the number of attendees and a hard time limit.

    Serve strong coffee before the meeting starts, then announce that the meeting will have no breaks. After two hours they will agree to anything.

  132. JC

    Driller has one too, although he’s a bullshit artist, so you can’t ever believe him Imagine. Our skies a totally safe.

  133. Eyrie

    None, forget it, you are on my scroll through list. Completely clueless waste of time who has never added value to any discussion.

  134. Crossie

    Rae
    #2904683, posted on January 11, 2019 at 5:07 pm
    Mark Latham & David Leyonhjelm both just want to get 8 years on the public teat courtesy of the tax payers of NSW.

    Absolutely correct.

    Why not them? Must it always be the major parties’ apparatchiks?

  135. bespoke

    Aren’t you a private pilot None? along with the two PHD’s

  136. Infidel Tiger

    Either the Indian team management didn’t bother with any cultural awareness training or those two bozos were day dreaming. You can’t get away with that shit in Australia unless you’re gay.

    The comments were made on an Indian show in India

    Pandya was boasting he has so many hoes on the go he couldn’t even remember all their names.

    It’s a new India that’s for sure.

  137. JC

    Check out the bird who organised the anti fas at St. Kilda last weekend . Her equivalent of Cotterell was someone who had been jailed for murder . This information from michaelsmithnews.

    Thanks min, but we know they’re filthy, disgusting scum. That’s always a given.

  138. cohenite

    What licences have you got head prefect since licences define the man.

  139. jupes

    Pandya was boasting he has so many hoes on the go he couldn’t even remember all their names.

    FMD they think they are the West Indies team of the ’80s.

    Just about are come to think of it. Couple more Bumrahs would do it.

  140. Crossie

    Also we wouldn’t have to import so many to do the things Australians do not want to do.

    In actual fact we are importing supposedly qualified people just so we don’t have to train our own.

  141. None

    Meetings should only ever be held standing up.

    That’s what Rumsfeld used to do.

    Rumsfeld must have learnt it from me.

  142. DrBeauGan

    JC
    #2904817, posted on January 11, 2019 at 7:12 pm
    You can’t trust him, Jupes. He has no ethics.

    Of course. He’s a politician. But he isn’t sucking up to lefties, not at the moment, anyway. Quite the contrary. So he gets counted as a good bloke, for a politician, and voted for. Until he crosses us.

  143. None

    Eyrie

    #2904821, posted on January 11, 2019 at 7:14 pm

    None, forget it, you are on my scroll through list. Completely clueless waste of time who has never added value to any discussion.

    I suppose Eyrie, that is why you thought necessary to tell me this as if I or anybody else here cares.

  144. jupes

    You can’t trust him, Jupes. He has no ethics.

    I trust him to stick to his principles. He has done that in front of a hostile press and hostile parliament.

    The only other politicians to do that in the last decade are Leyonhjelm, Malcolm Roberts and Pauline Hanson (mostly).

  145. bespoke

    Also true Crossie but not on my end.

  146. None

    Dear people. NO politician is trustworthy – not a single one. It is up to you to keep the bastards honest. It always amazes me that so many people on a so-called libertarian and centre-right blog I really just nanny state is who are either looking for mummy or the Messiah.

  147. egg_

    Evolutionary psychologists.
    I’m tired of these assholes with their explanations of everything boiling down to “this helped people survive”.

    Psychology is making its way into OHS these days, what with human factors being a major contributor.

  148. egg_

    JFK Jnr was a lawyer, Pauline has a pilot and Susan Ley was in ATC, which is a rather skilled profession beyond most shiny-arsed blowhards.

  149. egg_

    Struth is right, the source of corporatism is big government. And government grows by having people who profit from that growth. It’s now in the interest of more than half the population to have big government. So no change is possible democratically.

    Corporate red tape depts are proxy Govt entities.

  150. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Now bringing an update to those who have been concerned about one man’s personal struggle with fate: in other words, wives are worth listening to even if they do seem to nag at times. I brought Da Hairy Ape to heel like a saddened puppy being dragged out for a walk in the rain, and got him to see our lovely Irish doctor this morning, who winked at me several times, knowing the resistance I had met today, even after Hairy’s tentative agreement that he would keep the appointment I had made for him late yesterday. Sometime earlier on I mentioned online here that Hairy had developed a sore leg. As he’s had serious Deep Vein Thromboses in both legs, and this leg was his ‘better’ one, I was concerned that the Stent might have disturbed the venous equilibrium somehow, especially given the temperature rise on the night he was discharged from coronary care. This morning his temperature seemed completely normal but the leg was still swollen, red and hot. ‘Twill settle, ’twill settle, was his view when I insisted he now allow me to drive him to the docs. The ‘dog’ analogy was his, btw, and he only came because … well because wife etc.

    Doc takes one look at his leg and gets very stern, declares a raging cellulitis, and puts him on a heavy anti-biotic dose immediately, threatening IV in hospital if not carefully monitored and reported (by me, he winks).

    There is a feeling you get after a long period of wondering what the hell is the matter, or in my case the feeling of a short intense burst of impending widowhood (as I had on Wednesday night), when at last someone medical declares the problem and initiates the fix. Now I realise how exhausted I have been through it all. Meanwhile, he’s saying things like, well, I was beginning ta t’ink myself I should see a doc. Huh? That is how men rewrite history. Anyway, his temp and BP and heart-rate were all fine, so I think we have been through the worst already, although of course with a new Stent, it all bears watching.

    Reading back thread I came across this from one of our Bruces:

    Rule 1. Recent coronary patient: Any health issue take them to a cardiologist/emergency/whatever. Don’t fsck around.
    Lizzie, IR is spot on. After my stent, I was given a “priority pass” phone number to shortcut the usual BS and get straight through to coronary care. Don’t delay if at all worried. XX

    I really wish we had been given such a ‘priority card’. Hairy’s cardiologist got his nurse to call today, just as we were leaving the GP’s surgery. Charitably I must suppose that he got the message to call us late yesterday (after the bad nite on Wednesday). His nurse will now update his medical record with these cellulitis details. In my view, it would have been better for a cardiologist to have put a bomb under his patient, well before this, to act on the temperature issue, not just leave a worried wife to deal with it. Ffs, a lot of the Stent patients are men aren’t they? Everyone knows what they are like re their health. Mr. No-fusses. I was desperately reading Hairy’s ‘take home’ discharge sheet to see what I should do on Thursday morning at 2.30am. No sense of urgency in the after care, no information on temperatures, unexpected possibilities, if you have any concerns just make a GP appointment or go to public emergency and wait around forever (while very ill?). Men won’t call an ambulance at all if they are still standing or let their wives do this unless the information given says so. Everyone should know this.

    Thanks to all Cats for your help over this period. Invaluable support. Possibly life-saving.

  151. bespoke

    Most people who posted on the Cat are actually lefties and a few too many of them via towards the authoritarian kind.

    Its’s like suffering through ’50 First Dates’ except this time the star has total amnesia every morning.

  152. egg_

    In order to have a world of innovation and dynamism might it not be necessary that corporations have some limits on their life?

    They have been likened to organisms with a lifespan – Nortel, one of the Big 3 in the IT bubble of the early noughties, was taken down by internal shareholding parasites who were paid out before creditors.

  153. JC,
    You seem to be having an off day.

    For somebody who is spending so much time criticising Anning it is surprising you were unaware he got into Parliament by One Nation not Katter. Being such an expert on Qld matters you may have heard of somebody called James Ashby. He works for Pauline and there have been multiple pictures and stories showing him as her pilot. This would suggest Pauline is not a qualified pilot.

    I realise the St Kilda incident has triggered you on a major level. Where some have TDS you clearly have SKS and it looks like a pretty serious case.

    Just one point. You can rant and rave as much as you like but the simple fact is it is Queenslanders who will decide if Anning gets back in next election. I am pretty confident he is going to get a lot more votes next time around. There will be many who prefer him in the Senate compared to Senators from Coalition or Labor who we have never heard of and who just follow the party line. If you go on the basis that Shorten PM is not a good thing then having a strong bunch of right leaning Senators is going to be a good thing.

    Meanwhile us Queenslanders don’t appreciate being told our representatives are not good enough for you. Particularly as you are in the state that has Andrews as Premier.

  154. DrBeauGan

    Evolutionary psychologists.
    I’m tired of these assholes with their explanations of everything boiling down to “this helped people survive”.

    What are you reading on the subject, Arky?

  155. None

    Thanks for the update and glad you persisted Lizzie and that he is now under the watchful eye of a competent Medico. He probably owes you his life as well but he doesn’t know that yet. Good job.

  156. bespoke

    Cottrell should get a new barber if he doesn’t won’t to be branded a Neo-Nasty.

  157. Sydney Boy

    Much is made of Senator Anning getting into parliament with only 19 first preference votes. But Senator Steele-John only received 146 first preference votes. Green hypocrites, as always.

  158. None

    Lucy the Kenyan only got about 100 or so, Ricky Muir was Mr Popularity at 1200.

  159. None

    Who gives a f****** toss about Blair Cottrell people?

  160. None

    OMG another rugby sex scandal. Another dick brain.

  161. egg_

    I didn’t know we were arguing that but it’s easy mass scale and “limited liabilty”.

    The very reason governments created corporations in the first place.

    Viz NBNCo.

  162. None

    Another rugby player charged with common assault. This is why I don’t subscribe to the Tele. Another day another Rugby scandal.

  163. areff

    Calli: Hardik Pandya and KL Rahul

  164. Rae

    temp and BP and heart-rate were all fine

    With “raging cellulitis”. Sure.

  165. Boambee John

    Lizzie at 1947

    if you have any concerns just make a GP appointment or go to public emergency and wait around forever (while very ill?).

    People presenting at emergency with cardiac issues (and it is reasonable to link the stent and thd temperature problem) get priority attention.

  166. egg_

    Has anyone come up with a virtue signalling game show for soyboys?
    Could be onto a winner.

  167. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Much is made of Senator Anning getting into parliament with only 19 first preference votes.

    That’s still 19 votes more then Kimberly Kitching and Kristina Keaneally achieved.

  168. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Saudi teenager Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun headed for Canada

    By Amanda Hodge, Sid Maher and Pailin Chitprasertsuk
    56 minutes ago January 11, 2019
    1 Comment

    Escaped Saudi teen Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun appears headed for Canada after the UNHCR withdrew its referral to Australia to take her as a refugee.

    The Australian has confirmed Ms al-Qunun had expressed a preference to go to Canada prior to the UNHCR withdrawing its referral, meaning the 18-year-old is almost certainly headed there.

    Thai authorities earlier hinted the future of Ms al-Qunun, whose dramatic escape bid from her family captured international attention, could be determined by the end of today, suggesting both Australia and Canada had made offers of asylum.

    Australian government sources denied a Daily Mail report that the 18-year-old had already been granted resettlement in Australia, after it reported that she had told one of its reporters: “I am so happy, I will start a new life,” but that she would miss her 12-year-old sister.

    Breaking news.

  169. feelthebern

    The leaguey slapped a cabbie.
    Insert Latham joke here.

  170. jupes

    That’s still 19 votes more then Kimberly Kitching and Kristina Keaneally achieved.

    Not to mention everyone’s favourite Chicom and Hamas enthusiast Bob Carr.

  171. mh

    Memo to Trump: Declare an Emergency

    By Patrick J. Buchanan

    In the long run, history will validate Donald Trump’s stand on a border wall to defend the sovereignty and security of the United States.

    Why? Because mass migration from the global South, not climate change, is the real existential crisis of the West.

    The American people know this, and even the elites sense it.

    Think not? Well, check out the leading liberal newspapers Thursday.

    The Washington Post and The New York Times each had two front-page stories about the president’s battle with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer on funding the border wall.

    Inside the first section, the Post had more stories, including one describing walls in history from China’s Great Wall to the Berlin Wall to the Israeli West Bank wall to the wall separating Hungary from Serbia.

    Inside the Times was a story on a new anti-immigration party, Vox, surging in Andalusia in Spain, and a story about African migrants being welcomed in Malta after being denied entry into Europe.

    Another Times story related how the new president of Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro, has pulled out of a U.N. pact on migration, declaring, “Brazil has a sovereign right to decide whether or not it accepts immigrants.”

    Half the columns on the op-ed pages of the papers dealt with Trump, immigration and the wall. And there was nothing significant in either on the Democrats’ hot new issue, a Green New Deal.

    Consider. In 1992, this writer’s presidential campaign had to fight to have inserted in the GOP platform a call for “structures” on the border.

    Now, the whole Western world is worried about its borders as issues of immigration and identity convulse almost every country.

    Looking ahead, does anyone think Americans in 2030 are going to be more concerned about the border between North Korea and South Korea, or Turkey and Syria, or Kuwait and Iraq, or Russia and Ukraine, than about the 2,000-mile border between the U.S. and Mexico?

    Does anyone think Pelosi’s position that a wall is immoral will not be regarded as absurd?

    America’s southern border is eventually going to be militarized and defended or the United States, as we have known it, is going to cease to exist. And Americans will not go gentle into that good night.

    Whatever one may think of the face-off Tuesday with “Chuck and Nancy,” Trump’s portrait of an unsustainable border crisis is dead on: “In the last two years, ICE officers made 266,000 arrests of aliens with criminal records, including those charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes and 4,000 violent killings.”

    The Democrats routine retort, that native-born Americans have a higher crime rate, will not suffice as new atrocities, like those Trump related, are reported and repeated before November 2020.

    What should Trump do now? Act. He cannot lose this battle with Pelosi without demoralizing his people and imperiling his presidency.

    Since FDR, we have had presidential government. And when U.S. presidents have been decisive activists, history has rewarded their actions.

    Lincoln suspended habeas corpus. On taking office, FDR declared a bank holiday. When Britain was barely hanging on in World War II, he swapped 50 destroyers for British bases. He ordered U.S. ships to chase down German submarines and lied about it. Truman fired General MacArthur.

    Reagan fired the striking air controllers and ordered the military to occupy Grenada to stop Marxist thugs who had taken over in a coup from taking 500 U.S. medical students hostage.

    Critics raged: Reagan had no right to invade. But the American people rewarded Reagan with a 49-state landslide.

    Trump should declare a national emergency, shift funds out of the Pentagon, build his wall, open the government and charge Democrats with finding excuses not to secure our border because they have a demographic and ideological interest in changing the face of the nation.

    For the larger the share of the U.S. population that requires welfare, the greater the need for more social workers, and the more voters there will be to vote to further grow the liberal welfare state.

    The more multiracial, multiethnic, multicultural, multilingual America becomes — the less it looks like Ronald Reagan’s America — the more dependably Democratic it will become.

    The Democratic Party is hostile to white men, because the smaller the share of the U.S. population that white men become, the sooner that Democrats inherit the national estate.

    The only way to greater “diversity,” the golden calf of the Democratic Party, is to increase the number of women, African-Americans, Asians and Hispanics, and thereby reduce the number of white men.

    The decisive issues on which Trump was elected were not the old Republican litany of tax cuts, conservative judges and increased defense spending.

    They were securing the borders, extricating America from foolish wars, eliminating trade deficits with NAFTA nations, the EU and China, making allies pay their fair share of the common defense, resurrecting our manufacturing base, and getting along with Russia.

    “America First!” is still a winning hand

  172. egg_

    Has anyone come up with a virtue signalling game show for soyboys?
    Could be onto a winner.

    The Wheel of Virtue?

  173. Helen

    Well done, Lizzie. You keep that ape to heel until he is truly better.

  174. feelthebern

    Miss Saigon is on one of the fox channels.
    I’ve never seen it.
    In the first 5 mins, there’s enough to keep the #metoo movement busy for years.

  175. Leigh Lowe

    egg_

    #2904840, posted on January 11, 2019 at 7:34 pm

    JFK Jnr was a lawyer, 

    Failed the NY Bar exam twice and, in his own words, was “not the most brilliant lawyer.”

  176. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Not to mention everyone’s favourite Chicom and Hamas enthusiast Bob Carr.

    Indeed, jupes and who can forget the perfumed Persian, Sam Doesyourarsefitya?

  177. Old School Conservative

    Please, no.
    The alleged assault on a cabbie was by a Rugby LEAGUE player, not a Rugby player.
    Vive la différence.

  178. egg_

    Monty has never seen a hacksaw let alone used one.

    Imagine those manboobs flubbering around if he did try. WOuld get the gender neutered left in a tizzy.

    Hence, the Bro

  179. Dr BeauGan:

    Rumsfeld does get credit in my book for talking about known unknowns and unknown unknowns, and revealing that this was a concept beyond the grasp of lefties.

    Yes. I loved the fact that the Left portrayed their ignorance of a very basic concept in philosophy – a subject of which they see themselves as masters in.

  180. jupes

    My darling wife has just this minute finished work at a company she has worked for for over 10 years.

    We will shortly be off to dinner to celebrate and drink a bottle of Amarone Della Valpolicella Classico. For IT’s benefit I have met the artisans who produced this beautiful wine (and sealed it with a cork of course).

  181. Snoopy

    The oceans are warming faster than previously estimated, setting a new temperature record in 2018 in a trend that is damaging marine life.

    New measurements, aided by an international network of 3,900 floats deployed in the oceans since 2000, showed more warming since 1971 than calculated by the latest UN assessment of climate change in 2013, scientists said.

    And “observational records of ocean heat content show that ocean warming is accelerating,” the authors in China and the United States wrote in the journal Science.

    Man-made greenhouse gas emissions are warming the atmosphere, according to the overwhelming majority of climate scientists, and a large part of the heat gets absorbed by the oceans. That in turn is forcing fish to flee to cooler waters.

    “Global warming is here, and has major consequences already. There is no doubt, none!” the authors wrote in a statement.

    Wait! What’s this?

    Ocean temperatures are less influenced by year-to-year variations in the weather. It can take more than 1,000 years for deep ocean temperatures to adjust to changes at the surface.

    But man-made greenhouse gas emissions! Aiee!

  182. ZK2A:

    …after it reported that she had told one of its reporters: “I am so happy, I will start a new life,” but that she would miss her 12-year-old sister.

    The family reunion commences.
    Who didn’t see that coming?

  183. Steve trickler

    A little truth here and there doesn’t hurt anyone.



  184. Candy

    Major stress, Lizzie. Next step getting your stubborn man on low fat low cholesterol diet.
    Hope your young ones are okay.

  185. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The family reunion commences.
    Who didn’t see that coming?

    Just as long as the Canadian taxpayers pick up the bill …..my nasty, cruel little mind wonders if there will be a grand reconciliation with her father…

  186. feelthebern

    Another Huawei exec arrested.
    This time in Poland.
    This is all about the new super computers that Huawei have developed with zero US or European components.
    The Huawei ecosystem is become big in Africa, South America & obviously non-Japan Asia.

  187. Steve trickler

    Gold!



    Clever work from the meme makers.

  188. feelthebern

    I stopped watching Miss Saigon.
    Total filth.
    & I’m no prude.

  189. None

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    #2904869, posted on January 11, 2019 at 8:24 pm

    Good news. As I pointed out on this blog she preferred Canada -I linked to her tweet- and the media was just lying about Australia offering to resettle her. Plus as I argued, Canada is a win-win-win. The young Saudi princess has tweeted that she can do whatever she likes now – well no honey, not quite but best wishes to you. Remember who fought for the Freedom which you will now enjoy and remember that that Freedom requires vigilance but also reciprocity. We can still expect some suicide virgins and some further Lefty agitation in the lead up to the election but once the next election is held, if Labor wins, no one in the media will give a toss about female oppression in the Muslim world. This is a very good win for the Morrison government.

  190. None

    Ah. OK Old School.
    Biffo for the league and bonko for union.

  191. feelthebern

    They were both leagueys today.
    One on the root.
    One on the slap.

  192. None

    Winston Smith

    #2904882, posted on January 11, 2019 at 8:40 pm

    known knowns etc are also very standard in strategic and risk analysis in corporatopia. I’m just trying to think of the proper name for it but who cares. Those days are gleefully past.

  193. None

    That is comforting to know Bern.

  194. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Spot of spacechooking for Cats with an interest in military history – Max Hasting’s new book “Vietnam – An Epic Tragedy 1945 – 1975” would be about the best one volume account of the whole shooting match I have ever read. The Yanks made war in the manner of someone using a flamethrower to trim a garden border, but their atrocities and blunders were more then matched by the North. The final irony was that, after all the years of struggle and violence, the morally pure “liberators” turned out to be just as venal, corrupt and grasping as any junta ever installed and backed by the Americans. Highly recommended.

  195. Rae

    I stopped watching Miss Saigon.
    Total filth.
    & I’m no prude.

    The stage show was very good.

  196. None

    You’re nasty cruel little mind works like minr, Zulu. Happy to handball that to Justin
    Tee hee. I think she will run rings around him. She’s already learnt the language of “rights”.

  197. Stimpson J. Cat

    Every second person from the country has got a pilot licence. Sometimes for no reason than just a hobby.

    I don’t know if this is actually true.
    In fact I’m certain it’s not.
    Why do Bigtime Corporates lie?

  198. feelthebern

    Maybe the stage show was ok.
    What I saw was a made for TV grope fest.
    Made me feel uncomfortable.

  199. Stimpson J. Cat

    Congratulations Lizzie.
    Congratulations Jupes.

  200. cohenite

    Snoopy

    #2904886, posted on January 11, 2019 at 8:59 pm

    The oceans are warming faster than previously estimated, setting a new temperature record in 2018 in a trend that is damaging marine life.

    That is a lie. The ARGO OHC measurement floats have found bugger all ocean warming. In any event the radiation from CO2 cannot penetrate the ocean surface so whatever is not warming the oceans it’s not CO2.

  201. Bruce of Newcastle

    The family reunion commences.
    Who didn’t see that coming?

    Don’t knock it.
    Every muslim who apostatises makes it easier for the next one.
    Ex-muslims tend not to go randomly Allan’s Snackbar with sharp implements.

  202. jupes

    Congratulations Jupes.

    Well Mrs Jupes, but thanks anyway.

  203. Stimpson J. Cat

    This is what passes for Female Comedians these days:

    Marcella Arguello
    @marcellacomedy
    I hate when people tell me to have a kid because I look good holding a baby. Bitch I look good doing everything because I. Look. Good. In fact you should see me have an abortion – I am BREATHTAKING. Literally I am taking someone’s breath. It’s beautiful.
    8:10 AM · Jan 10, 2019 ·

  204. bespoke

    Well sometimes Bigtime Corporates lie and some lie about being Bigtime Corporates, Stimp.

  205. cohenite

    That is a lie

    I don’t mean you were lying Snoopy merely the bullshit about ocean warming was a lie.

  206. Stimpson J. Cat

    Well Mrs Jupes, but thanks anyway.

    Behind every woman there is a good man.
    Everyone knows this.

  207. None

    Mh: you’re posting Blair Cottrell videos and Pat Buchanan articles ( Buchanan being the man whom even Donald Trump characterized as Attila the Hun). I take it that you’re a member of Cottrell’s outfit?

  208. None

    I don’t know if this is actually true.

    Half the country is populated by Mr N’s relatives and they all have pilots licences – well nearly all of them.

  209. Stimpson J. Cat

    Half the country is populated by Mr N’s relatives and they all have pilots licences – well nearly all of them.

    So it’s definitely not true.
    Thanks for that confirmation.

  210. None

    A lot of farmers, pastoralists, people who live in rural and remote areas have pilot’s licences Stimps and maintain their licence even if they don’t own a plane and just hire one from time to time. A lot of country high schools still run Air Cadets or flying clubs where you get heavily subsidized pilot training which is where most of them pick up their skills. Mustering (heli), crop dusting, firefighting, surveying, property inspections, ecotourism etcetera etcetera. Lots of jobs also need piloting skills. Acrobatic flying competitions are the aerial rodeos.

  211. Stimpson J. Cat

    That’s fascinating background.
    A lot.
    So not every second person then.
    Glad we got that sorted out.

  212. mh

    None
    #2904917, posted on January 11, 2019 at 9:45 pm
    Mh: you’re posting Blair Cottrell videos and Pat Buchanan articles ( Buchanan being the man whom even Donald Trump characterized as Attila the Hun). I take it that you’re a member of Cottrell’s outfit?

    None, you are hopeless. The video is in response to this:

    Steve trickler
    #2904759, posted on January 11, 2019 at 6:34 pm
    Chatter via the grapevine suggests Sky News have pulled this interview from the archives. Now you get to see someone filming the television.

    My link was an ABC show Hack Live which had Blair Cottrell on as a guest. I’m highlighting that the Sky News bedwetters are weaker than the ABC.

    Pat Buchanan is an American Conservative and former Republican who appears on Fox and other media outlets. He was a very senior Republican. America First was a slogan used by Buchanan.

  213. None

    Well I’m glad that you can now sleep easy Stimpson
    I hate to think that you could habe spent yet another sleepless night because you couldn’t correct everything that was wrong on the internet. Oh because you’re hermeneutics would put even the most Fundamentalist qur’anic scholar to shame. Sweet dreams tonight eh?

  214. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s happening!

    Barbara Starr
    @barbarastarrcnn
    Just in to CNN: first US military ground equipment has been withdrawn from Syria signaling the beginning of the drawdown ordered by President Trump, according to admin official “Some cargo has already moved,” the official said.
    7:22 AM · Jan 11, 2019

  215. egg_

    Where’s Geriatric Mayfly been?

  216. bespoke

    That’s A Lot of Mr N’s relatives.

  217. None

    Thanks mh. I had two threads open at the same time and got a bit confused because I mused on the other thread it would be interesting to see some footage of the man complaining to the minister and someone then posted it and then a couple of other posts, and your two made me think maybe we do have supporters here who either at that Riley or are trying to piggyback on Anning to push their own agenda.

    I’m going to dispute that Buchanan is conservative; he is certainly very hard right in my view, ideological rather than pragmatic, certainly not nuanced and well-characterized by Trump as Attila the Hun.

  218. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    temp and BP and heart-rate were all fine
    With “raging cellulitis”. Sure.

    You go and argue with the highly competent medical Dr. O’Oirish, Rae. He had no hesitation in declaring a very significant cellulitis (half a leg full of bright hot skin, with secondaries further up near the knee), showing us some other exemplars on his computer, some of whom died, so that Hairy would be in no doubt as to the seriousness of his leg issue. Dr. O’Oirish also knows Hairy and his ilk, competitive men who like teenagers think they are invincible. As I said here and to the good Doc, I think Hairy passed through the crisis of it on Wednesday night. I am sure that his good ‘vitals’ this morning were the only reason Hairy is not flat on his back on a drip right now. As I’ve also said here, he is actually a very fit gym-man with an excellent constitution (his stress test, given a major anterior coronary artery blockage, impressed his cardiologist a few weeks ago). We have ten days to ensure this major infection has gone away completely and that there are no coronary complications due to it. First review on Monday with the treating GP, another with the cardiologist on Tuesday.

    Unless you have a good medical degree Rae it is best to go along with this properly-made diagnosis.
    Otherwise you are just being another invincible male. 😀

  219. Snoopy

    I don’t mean you were lying Snoopy

    Relax. I didn’t read it that way, Cohenite.

  220. calli

    Might have gone fishing egg_.

  221. mh

    …certainly not nuanced and well-characterized by Trump as Attila the Hun.

    If you say so, Hun.

  222. None

    Lizzie, you do not have to justify anything to anyone here least of all Rae and you probably should not be discussing your husband’s confidential medical details here either, even though I know it may be a place where you offload a bit to relieve some stress. We are all really happy and relieved that your husband is well and is under medical supervision and he’s got you by his side keeping an eye out and keeping him in line. Don’t stress yourself any further with the likes of Rae and do not put up any medical details or identifying details on this blog.

  223. Snoopy

    A lot of country high schools still run Air Cadets or flying clubs where you get heavily subsidized pilot training

    Really?

  224. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Should I ever have the misfortune to meet her, someone please remind me not to whack one to that Marcella female for what she regards as comedy, above. Killing babies is ‘beautiful’? She’s taking her cues from Myra Hindley there.

  225. None

    If you say so, Hun.

    The name is None, not Hun, sweetheart. So back to my original question. Did you attend the rally in Melbourne? Are you a Cotterill supporter?

  226. None

    Yes Snoopy a lot of private schools that you probably couldn’t afford do.

  227. Mitch M.

    As I’ve also said here, he is actually a very fit gym-man with an excellent constitution (his stress test, given a major anterior coronary artery blockage, impressed his cardiologist a few weeks ago).

    Apart from this recent event you previously mentioned he had some serious DVTs? That suggests something needs attention. It’s easy to look healthy, have good markers, and still have heart attacks. Yourself and Hairy should have a look at lifestyle and diet issues. I’d even think about a carotid ultrasound. Hairy won’t do this but the data is very clear: going vegetarian has considerable cardio benefits. I’d also be looking at omega 3/6 balance, generous helpings of extra virgin olive oil(Cobram Estate, never overseas brands), plenty of sunshine(can stimulate nitric oxide production and hence lower blood pressure), magnesium status might be worth thinking about, and of course hsCRP(which they probably have already done).

  228. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Fair enough, None. I hope I have been speaking in fairly generic terms re Hairy and the failings I have found in the medical system and the male mind, but I take your point.

  229. mh

    The name is None, not Hun, sweetheart. So back to my original question. Did you attend the rally in Melbourne? Are you a Cotterill supporter?

    Who is this Cotterill you speak of?

  230. Snoopy

    Yes Snoopy a lot of private schools

    Name six that provide heavily subsidised flight training.

  231. bespoke

    Given your many diatribes over the years I thought you’d be Cotterill’s biggest fan, None? Is he to tame?

  232. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks Mitch. We do love our Cobram Estate Olive Oil, mucking around in the garden on a sunny day, and in general have a simple and fairly healthy diet. We both love our wine and cheese a little too much though, along with 90% of Cats I suspect, so speaking generically here. Improvements needed, noted. 🙂

    Fear not for the rest of it. Hairy has the very best specialists money can buy and that influence can dig up. His blood specialist for example is an absolute honey, and so caring you could weep. These men, for men they all are, will keep him in line. Genetics is part of it, all tested too. In deference to None’s cautions, I will say no more.

  233. Done Deal

    what no “are you xenophobic?” ??…. oh that’s right they didn’t have a few days to script their questions. He needs to watch the next few interviews he gets invited to. They are probably beavering away now on google to come up with obscure synonyms for ‘racist’ for the gotcha moment. Watch out for invites to the 7.30 report Fraser.

  234. None

    Fair enough, None. I hope I have been speaking in fairly generic terms re Hairy and the failings I have found in the medical system and the male mind, but I take your point.

    I know both of them well Lizzie and it’s frustrating but the good thing is your husband is taking ownership of his tteatment and that’s what you should continue encouraging him to do. If at any stage you are not happy with the advice or the explanation given to you don’t hesitate to get second opinions and if you think something should be investigated insist that your doctor investigates it. It seems to me that you stumbled across a very serious failing in the medical system and it may also be worth documenting stuff.keep a diary, keep pamphlets, all records of phone calls what happens when and then pursue that further once everything has stabilized. Don’t try to do too much now but concentrate on keeping Harry happy and keeping yourself rested and well.

  235. bespoke

    I hate wine but love pineapple pizza.

  236. Macbeth

    Lizzie, glad all appears to be going well, and doctor’s advice being taken. Over 25 years since I had a quintuple bypass. Doc’s advice followed from day one with no further problem.

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