Open Forum: January 12, 2019

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  1. cohenite

    Greens MPs will attend “Invasion Day” rallies around the nation on Australia Day

    On our dime, presumably.’

    Just for the record, this is the advice from the Department of Finance website about what constitutes official – i.e. taxpayer-funded – MP travel:

    sittings of the House of Parliament or direct travel to or from such sittings
    meetings of, or the formal business of, Parliamentary Committees of which he or she is a member or direct travel to or from such meetings
    attendance at functions representing a Minister or a Presiding Officer on official business as a Minister or Presiding Officer, or direct travel to or from such functions, provided the Minister or Presiding Officer nominates the function in advance in a written request to the Senator or Member to represent him or her. (Evidence of approval must accompany the travelling allowance claim)
    meetings in Canberra of his or her parliamentary political party, of its executive, or of its committees, or direct travel to or from such meetings
    meetings of his or her Parliamentary political party executive outside Canberra or direct travel to or from such meetings
    meetings, other than in Canberra, of a Parliamentary political party or of its executive, or of its committees, attendance at the national and state conferences of a political party, of which he or she is a member, and meetings outside the electorate on electorate business up to a maximum of 10 overnight stays per annum in total, and direct travel to or from such meetings or conferences
    attendance at official government, Parliamentary or vice-regal functions
    meetings of a non-statutory body which a Senator or Member has been nominated to attend by resolution of either House, where the Senator or Member performs duties principally as a representative or alternate representative of the Parliament, or
    attendance at properly constituted meetings of a Government advisory committee or taskforce provided that the Senator or Member is a member of the committee or taskforce.

    To my mind, these rules encompass neither Anning’s travel to Melbourne last week nor Green’s attendance at ‘Invasion Day’ rallies.

    The bold is the open door which allowed Anning to motor through and unfortunately will allow those green snakes to scuttle through as well.

  2. candy

    the ECG story was a scam

    I thought so too. As if anyone with a distressing heart problem in ED to be diagnosed would pop themselves onto a blog site during the drama and actually post comments. But why make up stories about a heart condition? Bad karma.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Will Islamofascism be on the agenda?

    The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem – Yassir Arafat’s uncle – visited Nazi Germany, received a guided tour of an extermination camp, had tea and bikkies with Adolph, and received a guarantee from said Adolph that, in the event of a Nazi victory, “The Joos of Palestine will be yours.”

  4. Memoryvault

    Labor has been diligent, bold and honest in putting so much revenue policy into the public arena ahead of the election.

    No, they’ve been making election promises. Not nearly the same thing.
    When was the last time Australian mainstream party politicians did anything even remotely like what they promised to do in an election campaign, once they were actually elected?

  5. Confused Old Misfit

    on electorate business

    Being business appertaining to or having a bearing on the electorate represented by the member?

  6. candy

    “Melbourne says no to Nazis”

    I’m not convinced there are any Nazis in Australia. Nazis exterminate Jewish and other peoples or talk about doing that, and I just don’t see that happening in Oz.
    The activist right wing folk should avoid attending.

    The Greens want them there to humiliate them and focus media on them as Nazis. If they go, they will fall for that trap badly. It’s one stoush they should totally avoid.

  7. mh

    Victorian Greens leader Samantha Rahman is among the speakers listed for a “Melbourne says no to Nazis” event planned at the Victorian State Library on Saturday afternoon.

    JC going along?

  8. Memoryvault

    Being business appertaining to or having a bearing on the electorate represented by the member?

    A Federal Senator’s “electorate” is the state in which he was elected.

  9. candy

    “Melbourne says no to Nazis”

    I’m not convinced there are Nazis in Australia. Nazis exterminate certain peoples or talk about doing that and I just don’t see that happening in Australia.
    The right wing activist folk need to avoid that rally. The Greens are waiting to humiliate them and focus media attention on them and brand them as Nazis if they turn up for a stoush. A trap.

  10. None:

    JC is not a bully. He’s just an ethnic of sorts from the southern Mediterranean if I have guessed right and they are just straight talkers, not ones for small talk nor are they shrinking violets.

    JC is a loudmouthed lout and a coward.
    He doesn’t have the guts of an amoeba – his stated position if there is any strife in Australia is to hop on a plane to NY. JC doesn’t pull any real triggers, he hands out bullets to his vassals and they fire them for him.
    You can dress it up any way you like, but you would not want to depend on him in any situation where blood or treasure is involved.

  11. Roger

    The Greens oppose Australian military cooperation and trade in weapons with Israel as a matter of policy.

    In other words, they don’t believe we should cooperate with an ally in its right to self-defense.

    Yet they organise a rally to condemn as a Nazi a politician who openly supports Israel.

    It is often attributed to Churchill, but probably derives from an Italian intellectual in the 1990s; nevertheless the saying was prescient:

    “The Fascists of the future will present themselves as anti-Fascists.”

  12. Good Morning Troops

    Been back in Aust for a week now and i have a few observations from when i was there 3 years ago.

    As i had posted previously, your roads are terrible, not just bad but a disgrace for a first world country.

    I had the misfortune to go supermarket shopping a couple of days ago, how the fvck can you people afford to live there, $7 for fvking fruit juice, everything i looked at was cheaper back home. You have a fantastic array of fresh fruit and veg , but FMD everything is pricey.

    I also had the misfortune to go to a bottleshop, how on Gods green earth can anyone justify $60 for a fvking carton of fvking Asahi, its beer not liquid gold.

    Don’t get me started on the lungbusters, $52 for a 10 pack of cigars? i want to smoke them not have children with them.

    How the hell do people afford to live there.

  13. Confused Old Misfit

    MV,
    Do senators operate under a different set of rules?
    I din’t see how he can charge that off against the Commonwealth.

  14. Memoryvault

    I just don’t see that happening in Australia.

    Yeah.
    And Dolores Umbrage was just a harmless teacher.

  15. md

    The Left have now gone into denial mode over the bashing of the AfD politician by fascist leftists.
    This account, surprisingly, is from Fox News, which seems to be echoing the left-leaning media.

    Here are some extracts:

    A newly-released video is casting doubt on allegations made by a far-right German political party claiming one of its members suffered serious injuries after being attacked by three people in the northern city of Bremen.

    Claiming? Take a look at the images.

    According to a statement on the AfD Bremen Facebook page, Frank Magnitz was the target of an “assassination attempt.” AfD says Magnitz was knocked unconscious with a piece of wood when he left a New Year’s reception at a theater in the city. The party said the attackers continued to beat Magnitz on the head after he was down.
    The statement credited “the courageous intervention of a builder” with saving Magnitz’s life.
    “In the coming days, we will closely monitor the reactions of other parties,” the statement said, adding: “Today is a black day for democracy in Germany.”
    The account included a photo of Magnitz with a bloody head injury.
    But on Friday, CCTV footage released by the public prosecutor’s office seemed to dispute AfDs account of events.
    Specifically, there is no sign of a wooden object nor is there footage of someone kicking Magnitz to the ground, Frank Passade, a spokesman for the public prosecutor’s office, said. The two local tradesmen (builders) never witnessed the attack as AfC alleged, authorities added.

    We saw only the final few seconds of the assault. We don’t know what happened leading up to it. But in the earlier segment we did see the assailants purposefully going after him while ignoring the person at the car.
    There is no sign of a wooden object? What about a metal object then? How did his head get opened up like that? The video is not clear enough to see what is in the leftist’s hand when he strikes the politician. Also, given his swollen eye and the gash on the head, it appears he was hit more than on the one occasion that we see in the video.
    ‘Authorities added’ the builder never witnessed the attack. Again, you can ask a question in a certain way to get the answer you want. Nevertheless, the builder obviously was there. What did he see and what did he do? In fact, look at the earlier part of the video and you’ll see someone in hi-vis at the boot of their car. What’s the bet that is one of the builders? Naturally, he wouldn’t have seen the attack, because his back was to it. It’s likely that when he heard the commotion he turned and yelled out, thus preventing the attack from continuing.

    The CCTV footage was made public after a Bremen court ordered its release as part of an investigation into the incident.
    Police had initially said Magnitz had been hit with an unknown object and suspected a politically motivated attack.

    Are they now changing their story?

    Joint party leader Alice Weidel as well as other local officials blamed the attack on “incitement” from the Green Party and center-left SPD. Magnitz concedes the attack might have been a mugging.

    An old trick. Get the person to acknowledge that it is one possible explanation and then say, ‘Magnitz concedes …’. You can see clearly that they made no attempt to rob him.

    I’m surprised that Fox News wasn’t a little more skeptical of the information that is being fed to the media.

  16. cohenite

    Being business appertaining to or having a bearing on the electorate represented by the member?

    A Federal Senator’s “electorate” is the state in which he was elected.

    Anning dealt with this; he said there were developing issues of sud violence in QLD and he wanted to see what it was like in the home of capitulation to sud shit-headedness, victoriastan; he was entitled to go there.

    The suds have tried it out every where they turn up; they tried it out in Newcastle about 10 years ago and got sorted out. They are tribal bullies and will push until they get thumped. The left cucks in victoriastan can’t push back because wascism. That’s the take home message.

    Anyone who argues Anning’s visit to victoriastan was not worth-while is a fucking left/green stain.

  17. feelthebern

    Interesting point from CL overnight.
    MacLachlan getting hit by allegations he was hands on during performances of the Rocky Horror Show.
    If he is done for that, it sets a precedent for any performer in any performance ever where there was simulated hands on activity.
    Example, Miss Saigon.
    As I mentioned last night the made for TV production I saw the start of, there was not simulated groping.
    It was full hands on.
    Those actresses would have grounds for genuine complaint.

  18. Memoryvault

    Do senators operate under a different set of rules?
    I din’t see how he can charge that off against the Commonwealth.

    Before I say anything else, let me stress I don’t think he should have charged it to the taxpayer.
    Having said that, the wording is rubbery enough to be twisted interpreted pretty-much however the perp politician wants it to be. He quite clearly and carefully explained why it was “business pertaining to or having a bearing on” Queenslanders.

  19. Infidel Tiger

    A rugby league player was done for touching a woman’s thigh in a nightclub

    How are you mean to get a root in this day and age without getting done for assault?

    Thank God I’m retired from that slog.

  20. Roger

    Those actresses would have grounds for genuine complaint.

    Watching some Seinfeld bloopers the other day – Julia Louise Dreyfus was the subject of much good natured hugging and other spontaneous contact from Seinfeld, Jason Alexander & Michael Richards which obviously reflected the genuine closeness of the cast and to which she never seemed to object, indeed she gave her own back. But what if, thirty years later, she turned into a bitter, misandrist harridan? Those blokes wouldn’t stand a chance in the current climate and the evidence is all there on video.

  21. feelthebern

    Breaking news.
    Sharon Stone sues Michael Douglas for sex scenes during Basic Instinct.

  22. Nick

    If he is done for that, it sets a precedent for any performer in any performance ever where there was simulated hands on activity.

    I was thinking the same thing. The poster advertising the performance of King Lear, that Rush is accused of misbehaving in, has a specific shot of him being very close to his co star. It would be very easy to make an accusation.

  23. Herodotus

    The Australian is having a bet each way by publishing in fairly quick succession two articles which owe something to climate change, but in each case the “reserachers” come off badly, as does JCU.
    James Cook University, which has in that past given something of a rough ride to the late Bob Carter and to the still kicking Peter Ridd, has suffered more damage to its reputation as a result of revelations of “fishy” papers published under the name of one of its Ph.D researchers. The person has since decided to cease being a researcher and refuse any further correspondence. Lloyd’s article makes reference to the time taken for JCU to get to grips with the matters, which involve two separate published papers being withdrawn by the magazines which originally published them.
    Interesting to note however that one of the scientists who blew the whistle on the Lionfish affair was Peter Ridd, who the university was only too eager to discipline over his expression of doubts as to the quality of reef research. Another was veteran marine scientist Walter Starck.
    The other article is a reprint from The Times, where an “environmental scientist” pushes a sort of homogenisation or reappraisal of older ocean data in order to express concern that the oceans are heating up faster than previously thought. This thesis is shredded in comments, which are worth reading, and I’m sure BoN will get a laugh out of it.

  24. mh

    This is why Senator Anning went on a looking and listening trip to Victoria.

    Brisbane hit by second carjacking: four teens in custody
    December 20, 2018

    Four youths of African appearance have been taken into police custody in relation to two violent carjacking incidents in Brisbane this week.

    Police had been hunting the group, previously believed to be aged in their mid-20s, since a man was robbed of his BMW at gunpoint early this morning.

    Aerial footage of Police arrests following gunpoint carjackings

    It followed a similar incident on Wednesday night in which two African youths attacked a man and attempted to steal his car as he refuelled at a south Brisbane service station.

    They later allegedly stole a Toyota Yaris after bashing its owner.

    Covert officers located the BMW after a tip-off from a community member this afternoon and followed it to an house in Bracken Ridge.

    Detective Superintendent Tony Fleming said officers located seven youths of African appearance at the house.

    Four of the boys, two aged 17, one 16 and one 15, were taken into custody but are yet to be charged.

    A handgun, believed to have been used in the robbery overnight, was located.

    In this morning’s attack, a man was forced from his blue BMW 320D convertible from a property in Runcorn overnight when a group of men threatened him with a gun and knife.

    They approached him out the front of a Plum Street address and demanded the keys to the car shortly after midnight.

    “The man was threatened with a knife and firearm before his vehicle was stolen,” Queensland Police said in a statement.

    “He did not require medical treatment.

    On Wednesday night in Yeronga, also on Brisbane’s southside, a man was attacked by two men of African appearance who attempted to steal his car.

    His throat was slashed with a knife as he fought off the attackers who targeted his Mercedes as he refuelled it at a service station.

    The men fled and later forced a man from a red Toyota Yaris as he was reversing from a driveway nearby.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/brisbane-hit-by-second-carjacking/news-story/7e6e100841cfa78dfe7a4b5a8a4407b1

  25. C.L.

    Craig McLachlan was charged because he is suing the ABC and Fairfax.
    In one report I read yesterday it was said VicPol was looking at ‘harassment’ claims against McLachlan dating back to 1990.
    The very same VicPol refused to charge Bill Shorten on a far more serious matter. Nor have any of the #MeToofers demanded that case be re-examined.

  26. Des Deskperson

    In regard to comments and feedback of the Department of Finance’s rules on official travel:

    the issue turns on the definition of ‘electorate business’;

    there is no definition on the Finance website of ‘electorate business’. This is almost certainly deliberate:

    Finance has, however, confirmed that Senators and Members do not necessarily need to be in their own electorates to conduct ‘electorate business’:

    If Anning could demonstrate that there had been strong concerns within his electorate about escalating African gang violence, then there may have been a case for him travelling to Melbourne to meet and be briefed by people attempting to deal with the issues there, including victims:

    but a street political rally? Not as far as I can see.

    In any case, if Anning was in anyway astute or even cunning, he would have grasped that it was an issue and used his otherwise very generous resources – including his $200,000+ MP salary – to fund his visit.

    As others have pointed out, however, given the rubbery rules, he might still get away with it. Remember that there is an interest, cutting right across all party lines, in keeping these rules ‘flexible’.

  27. C.L.

    Border Force are pretending they’re fighting ‘crime’ again:

    More than a million illicit cigarettes found hidden under tea in Melbourne.

    “Working closely with our Illicit Tobacco Taskforce partners and our state and federal police colleagues we are having a real impact on the $600-million-a-year illicit tobacco market and stopping evaded revenue being funnelled back into the pockets of organised crime syndicates.”

    The Illicit Tobacco Taskforce. LOL.

  28. min

    None, it seems you have had bad experiences with female psychologists . I can understand it if you had not researched the type of therapy you experienced or the therapists did not explain how the therapy worked .
    Venting emotions in fact is not very helpful and you are right it does not solve the problem in fact hinders problem solving. One of the things I told my clients was I cannot change the situation only how to help change your thinking so that you are better able to cope .
    Venting sound like someone is angry and demanding someone or something should change.

  29. Black Ball

    The Illicit Tobacco Taskforce.

    Correct me please if I am wrong CL but isn’t tobacco still a legal pastime? Illicit Tobacco Taskforce. FMD

  30. zyconoclast

    Excellent Editorial in The Australian Today – Worth a Read

    Labor’s high-tax policies would be aspiration killers

    Not true.
    The recipients of the high tax policies will be inspired.

  31. Black Ball

    And there goes Finch. FMD

  32. bespoke

    candy
    #2905353, posted on January 12, 2019 at 12:36 pm
    “Melbourne says no to Nazis”
    I’m not convinced there are Nazis in Australia.

    I don’t no how many or if they have violent but iv worked with two.

  33. Nelson Kidd-Players

    What happens if you take illicit tobacco to a music festival and submit it for testing?

  34. Tel

    but a street political rally? Not as far as I can see.

    Anning didn’t organize the rally, he turned up to have a look around, talk to some people, and get himself on the news. Others have taken round the world trips as “fact finding” tours. Gillard went to a friends wedding if I recall.

    Given that Anning’s campaign has been directly around the issue of immigration, especially MENA immigration, it would be difficult to claim this isn’t exactly related to electoral business.

    Let’s suppose there was a major worker’s strike somewhere in Australia and a bunch of Commonwealth ALP ex-union officials turned up to give their support to the striking workers. Would anyone question that? I very much doubt it.

  35. zyconoclast

    Controversial radio and internet personality Alex Jones was ordered Friday to hand over emails and other documents tied to his claim that no one died in the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

    The decision by Connecticut State Superior Court Judge Barbara Bellis is part of a defamation case against Jones filed by the families of seven of the 26 children and adult staffers killed in the massacre.

  36. None

    Too be fair to Anning, Julie Bishop always has electrol business in Adelaide on her birthday.

  37. zyconoclast

    Turkey finishes construction of 764-km security wall on Syria border

    Characteristics of wall

    The border wall project incorporates physical, electronic and advanced technology layers.

    The physical layer includes modular concrete walls, patrol routes, manned and unmanned towers and passenger tracks.

    Modular walls are being erected along the Turkish-Syrian borderline with seven-ton mobile blocks, two meters wide and three meters high. The blocks have also been topped with a one-meter-high razor wire.

    An electronic layer consists of close-up surveillance systems, thermal cameras, land surveillance radar, remote-controlled weapons systems, command-and-control centers, line-length imaging systems and seismic and acoustic sensors.

    The advanced technology layer of the project includes wide area surveillance, laser destructive fiber-optic detection, surveillance radar for drone detection, jammers and sensor-triggered short distance lighting systems.

  38. mh

    Sebastian Gorka DrG

    @SebGorka
    Multiple sources tonight tell me this woman is not even in DC, but in New York and preparing to step down from the Supreme Court.

    And you ready for what will ensue?

    2:42 PM – Jan 11, 2019

  39. mh

    Pastor Mark Burns

    @pastormarkburns
    Word is Ruth Bader Ginsburg is about to retire…President @realDonaldTrump and the Republican controlled Senate will have another chance to confirm a Conservative Justice. 3 Trump appointed Supreme Court Justices to lead our nation’s Laws back to God. #PromisesMadePromisesKept

  40. feelthebern

    Too be fair to Anning, Julie Bishop always has electrol business in Adelaide on her birthday.

    Tell us more.
    She is the worst.

  41. None

    Sorry Mark Burns, no supreme Court can lead your laws back to God. Sheesh

  42. Top Ender

    You need to shop around Carpe.

    Just like Japan, where you can get a noodle lunch for $3 if you know how. (Is that still the case in those stand-up shops?)

    Just had dinner in Layfayette, Louisiana, for $24 for two, with enough left over for lunch tomorrow.

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Too be fair to Anning, Julie Bishop always has electrol business in Adelaide on her birthday.

    Given that her electorate is in Perth, how can she possibly justify that?

  44. Des Deskperson

    ‘Anning didn’t organize the rally, he turned up to have a look around, talk to some people, and get himself on the news. Others have taken round the world trips as “fact finding” tours. Gillard went to a friends wedding if I recall.’

    So who did he talk to? Did he seek a briefing from VICPOL and ask them awkward question? Did he visit the front line in Melbourne’s outer west? Did he interrogate or try to interrogate Sudanese ‘community leaders”? Did he talk to a range of victims?

    As for ‘getting himself on the news’, well a fundamental principle of Westminster democracy is that taxpayers funds shouldn’t be used by politicians to promote themselves and their politics. That’s what the ‘Red Shirts’ scandal in Victoria is all about, or should be all about. It was – as you admit – a political stunt and we shouldn’t have to pay for it.

  45. Silststone

    Iran’s boat people — and why they’re coming to Britain
    The Spectator 5 January
    “The migrants I spoke to passionately debated where to settle once they made it to mainland Europe, almost like a family weighing up various vacation destinations. Finland was ‘too cold, and they don’t pay much welfare’, said one. Switzerland was too expensive. And by picking Europe, the men had ruled out other destinations. Oz, for example, was out of the question: they had heard that Australian authorities divert illegals to Papua New Guinea, and you could end up ‘having to share a hot cell with a darky’. A consensus formed around Britain, mainly because most of them spoke at least a little English. But they also knew the Channel crossing was no easy feat. In reality, most of them would end up in Germany or Sweden.”

    Another endorsement of off-shore detentin.

  46. Shy Ted

    “Can somebody please come feed my puppy?”
    MOUNT MORRIS TOWNSHIP, Mich. — A 6-year-old Michigan girl who was left alone in her home was rescued after posting photos of her dead father online.
    WJRT reported that the girl was left alone for up to 24 hours after her 40-year-old Mt. Morris Township father died and her stepmother was unconscious from an apparent overdose.
    The father was pronounced dead Thursday night after police were called to their home. A pit bull in the home had been chewing on the deceased man’s face, police told the Detroit Free Press.

    In Oz the child would have been removed yonks ago. Surely?

  47. Nick

    Australia is expensive though, parking alone is outrageous compared to places like Hong Kong.
    That said, there are highs and lows, in Japan, decent whiskey is very cheap yet transport isn’t.

  48. None

    Winston, we agree on the loudmouth but if he runs away as you say how is he a bully?

  49. Siltstone

    Iran’s boat people — and why they’re coming to Britain?
    The Spectator 5 January
    “The migrants I spoke to passionately debated where to settle once they made it to mainland Europe, almost like a family weighing up various vacation destinations. Finland was ‘too cold, and they don’t pay much welfare’, said one. Switzerland was too expensive. And by picking Europe, the men had ruled out other destinations. Oz, for example, was out of the question: they had heard that Australian authorities divert illegals to Papua New Guinea, and you could end up ‘having to share a hot cell with a darky’. A consensus formed around Britain, mainly because most of them spoke at least a little English. But they also knew the Channel crossing was no easy feat. In reality, most of them would end up in Germany or Sweden.”

    Another endorsement of off-shore detention.

  50. feelthebern

    Pollies travel is a subject Sinc is 100% right about.
    Should be treated like the rest of us.
    If a legit expense, they can claim back all/portion of it at tax time.
    Bishop is the fucking worst.

  51. None

    parking alone is outrageous compared to places like Hong Kong.

    Ponder this statement. After you’ve done some comparative geography.

  52. Shy Ted

    Januhairy? Movember?
    Can’t wait for Rapril.

  53. feelthebern

    Quick fire:
    Bezos piece on the side looks like a tranny;
    End of days warning, Clem Ford has a piece about how fucked it is locking up scofflaws who don’t pay their fines that I agree with;
    Trump better not fuck up again with a swampie nomination to replace RBG.

  54. feelthebern

    Who drives in HK?
    Live make sure you live & work on the MTR.
    Cabs are as cheap as chips.
    The odd uber.
    Cars are the ultimate luxury in HK.

  55. Major browny points today.
    My wife misplaced her engagement ring. Frantic searching but no luck.
    Yours truly went to the council big bin and went through every vile piece until I found it at the very bottom of a bin liner.
    The beloved has a sinus issue at the moment. She put the ring down on an arm rest whilst using multiple tissues that piled up on the ring and at bedtime threw the whole lot in the bin.
    I have form in the “can find” department.
    Years ago a girlfriend lost her necklace in the surf. “You’ll never find it” she said. I did.

  56. Nick

    None refers to the amount of sense you have doesn’t it?

  57. Nick

    Who drives in HK?
    Live make sure you live & work on the MTR.
    Cabs are as cheap as chips.
    The odd uber.
    Cars are the ultimate luxury in HK.

    I did. It’s worse now that you have Mainland registered cars on the road.

  58. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Royal Navy had hard tack. In the 21stC we have macaroni and cheese.

    Costco Can’t Keep Its 27lb “Emergency” Mac-And-Cheese Bucket In Stock

    This is likely going to be the business school case study conclusion years from now when someone first asks the question of why Costco was selling a 27 pound bucket of macaroni and cheese to begin with. And it will likely also be the answer when the discussion turns to how quickly the product has been selling out.

    But don’t get this confused with any old grocery purchase – it’s listed on the company’s website under the category of “Emergency Kits and Supplies”. The reason? You can amortize your $89.99 purchase over the course of two decades, as the product has an astonishing listed shelf life of 20 years.

    Yum!

  59. feelthebern

    My Chinese born staff told me the licensing scam they all use.
    Not sure if I should post it.

  60. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Major browny points today.

    My compliments, FarmerGez.

  61. None:

    JC is a loudmouthed lout and a coward.

    That’s what I said.
    I didn’t call him a bully. Just a lout and a coward.

  62. feelthebern

    I dont understand why anyone takes anything personally on an anonymous blog.
    You can always just scroll.
    If you dont like someone, something, you dont have to engage.

  63. Memoryvault

    Not sure if I should post it.

    I vote you should.

  64. Siltstone

    Farmer Gez, what is the shelf life of browny points in your house? Am conducting comparative research.

  65. Years ago a girlfriend lost her necklace in the surf. “You’ll never find it” she said. I did.

    Was the reward commensurate?

  66. I didn’t call him a bully. Just a lout and a coward.

    Fact check: True

  67. Steve trickler

    A good summation of the events in St Kilda.



  68. stackja

    The only problem.
    FA doesn’t support PC.

  69. Tom

    Bruce of Newk, I would be obliged if you could post tonight’s Week In Pictures as I have an internet outage. My household has an el cheapo Dodo connection which I don’t control. They don’t do any type of customer service and outages are a nightmare. May not have internet back until Monday or Tuesday. Meantime, I’m accessibg the Cat on my phone. Thanks in anticipation.

  70. feelthebern

    Ok, here’s how it works.
    In mainland China, you get their version of a provisional drivers licence.
    Standards vary province to province.
    Then when you come to Australia, that provisional licence is recognised.
    For 12 months.
    Then when you go back to China, you get that provisional permit renewed, then when you get back to Oz, you get your Aus licence renewed for 12 months.

    The rub is, you have been able to get your provisional licence in China with almost zero standards.
    The thing is, standards change quickly & my Chinese born staff expect this scam to be closed sometime in 2019.
    All three of them are in the second cycle of doing it.

  71. Years ago a girlfriend lost her necklace in the surf. “You’ll never find it” she said. I did.

    Was the reward commensurate?

    She damned near dragged me from the beach to immediately show me her joy.
    I might have to settle for a good lamb roast these days. I’ll ask the question though, just for old times sake.

  72. Feelthebern:

    I dont understand why anyone takes anything personally on an anonymous blog.
    You can always just scroll.
    If you dont like someone, something, you dont have to engage.

    Oh, it’s not personal, I just get annoyed at having to drop out when The Mouth gets on its egotrip. And I do scroll, but then I use Toms offerings as a guide to when it’s safe to start reading again.

  73. Jc

    Wow, I never realized I held so much real estate in my bitches’ heads. It’s like I’m the Harry Trig.

    Winston, what am I cowardly about eggsactly? Describe it to the readership. I fight my own stoushes, generally winning them all and I handle pile ones competemtly. I loathe pile ons and pile onners as I find them loathsome losers.

    You, on the other hand is a former male nurse.

    Anyway enough of that.

    I see the site’s fuhrer has spoken.

    Anyone who argues Anning’s visit to victoriastan was not worth-while is a fucking left/green stain.

    Frightening. Imagine being called names by the resident national socialist.

  74. feelthebern

    I’ve been pottering around this morning listening to Louis CK.

  75. Bruce of Newcastle

    I would be obliged if you could post tonight’s Week In Pictures

    Will do Tom if another Cat doesn’t oblige sooner.
    Had electricity probs earlier in the week myself. Ugh.

  76. Gab

    This is an exceptionally good and true – and therefore controversial – talk delivered by Fr Isaac. Well worth the 1.25 hours – although I watched it in chunks rather than all in one go. I love his New York accent and manner of speech.

    Men in crisis.

    I

  77. Perplexed of Brisbane

    Knuckle Dragger
    #2905288, posted on January 12, 2019 at 11:00 am
    Lizzie et al,

    Re first aid. You can escape sanction for stopping first aid once you’ve started only if you can demonstrate that you were physically incapable of continuing, particularly with CPR.

    CPR is hard. The most I’ve done it for is just over 40 minutes. I didn’t stop but my arms and chest were destroyed for days. Still ended up better than the other bloke though.

    Correct: Also, you can stop if the patient recovers (sorry for being Captain Obvious) and if someone with superior medical qualifications takes over eg. Paramedic, Nurse or Doctor.
    Also, I believe you are not obliged to intervene even if you are trained in First Aid, if you feel that you cannot handle the situation.

    You are also protected by “Good Samaritan” legislation, that as long as you have acted in accordance with your level of training, you cannot be sued for an unfavourable outcome.

    Quite depressingly, every time I renew my certification, it seems that CPR is shown to be less and less effective. It used to be the great panacea but it seems to be less effective, the more it is researched. Still better than nothing, if only to make bystanders feel better.

    The quicker the casualty is taken to hospital, the better the chance they have.

  78. None

    Anyway Cassie I would still argue that J-wish and Christian teaching has always been against killing children or sacrificing them to the gods of their age. Naturally there will always be J-ws and Christians who don’t practice their faith as they should and overtime some traditions within both religions have slacked off on some matters or developed in different ways but it would take a lot of convincing for me to believe God’s intention for our children is for us to kill them.
    Bader Ginsburg was an utter zealot when it came to abortion and that came from her utter obsession over womens autonomy . So for her a woman’s right to abortion was sacred and it excluded the wish of the father and paid absolutely zero consideration to the child. In Ginsberg’s perfect world you could be 9 months pregnant and if you wanted an abortion you should have access to one and nothing and no one should stop you. She would argue that case brilliantly but her position in my view isbarbaric, misandrist and utterly hubristic.
    Hmm.too much sun…

  79. JC

    Candy
    #2905353, posted on January 12, 2019 at 12:36 pm
    “Melbourne says no to Nazis”

    I’m not convinced there are Nazis in Australia. Nazis exterminate certain peoples or talk about doing that and I just don’t see that happening in Australia.
    The right wing activist folk need to avoid that rally. The Greens are waiting to humiliate them and focus media attention on them and brand them as Nazis if they turn up for a stoush. A trap.

    Candy..

    It’s preposterous believing there are such people as nazis in Australia. You may find a handful of hitler loving meatheads around, but nothing of concern.

    What is more of a concern though are fascists in the historical meaning of the word. These are national socialists and you see a number of them floating through this site.

    I’m not saying this to be nasty or super critical.. Cronkite would pretty much fit the bill in being a national socialist in the modern context. Unless I’m mistaken, he’s agreed with this description in previous threads and at the very least should value his honesty.

  80. Elle

    Tom, we’ll have withdrawals! 😐
    Hope you get it sorted soon.

    I’m accessibg the Cat on my phone.

    I only ever access the Cat on my phone.
    It’s like checking Bold and the Beautiful when you get a chance. You don’t view it for a bit, come back and it’s history repeating itself. Nothing changes.

    Areff wants someone with Daddy issues to visit him?
    Happy birthday, Daddy 😘
    Muah!

  81. Rae

    But why make up stories about a heart condition?

    Beth. Can you answer candy please?

  82. The quicker the casualty is taken to hospital, the better the chance of them dying in the trolley queue at an overloaded emergency dept.
    Or dying while filling out the admission forms.

  83. Oh come on

    You need to watch this video, it’s hilarious:

    Wakanda is real!!

    That is some APC, and the soldier armour is incredible tech.

    You wouldn’t want to carelessly discard a lit cigarette in that thing, though – all the plastic and plywood would go up like a Roman candle.

  84. mh

    Blair Cottrell 🇦🇺
    Blair Cottrell 🇦🇺
    @blaircottrell89
    ·
    3h
    Race-hate has nothing to do with nationalism but is actually in the fundamental basis of internationalism. “They” are engaged in a war against the existence of race, and are encouraging miscegenation as a means for uprooting & absorbing nations into a Globalised authority system.

  85. Oh come on

    They” are engaged in a war against the existence of race, and are encouraging miscegenation as a means for uprooting & absorbing nations into a Globalised authority system.

    This guy is a fucking dickhead and so is anyone who agrees with him.

  86. bespoke

    feelthebern
    #2905423, posted on January 12, 2019 at 2:18 pm
    I dont understand why anyone takes anything personally on an anonymous blog.
    You can always just scroll.
    If you dont like someone, something, you dont have to engage.

    I don’t have problem monty as he is this sites muse and Rae wallowing in his own misery needs to be challenged occasionally to keep him from acting out his fantasies. I do however have a problem with people with no sense of proportion making outlandish false claims against others in a pathetic attempt to win an argument. Given the current situation I think its something to called out even if I at times agree with them. Cognitive dishonesty is also needs to challenged.

  87. calli

    She damned near dragged me from the beach to immediately show me her joy.

    Nice euphamism.

    Did she resemble Deborah Kerr?

  88. I have to admit I’m a bit impressed with Annings performance at St Kilda Beach.
    Give him a definite “shmaybe” atm, lets see how he polishes up.

  89. struth

    I agree with him.

    But go back and read it again.

    He’s saying that the real people who hate races are the global socialists who want their slaves world wide to be of the one mixed up race of the future, (and I might add if they were sexless as well that would be a benefit)
    To be good slaves of globalists, you must be wiped of all national, racial, and cultural heritage.
    Once you are free of these things, a slave you are.
    An individual with any separating identity is not what the slave masters are looking for.

  90. mh

    OCO, European MPs are pushing those ideas.

    According to the co-founder of the French Green Party, benefits for native European families should be removed in order to encourage them to have less children so that more room can be made for Muslim migrants.
    Yves Cochet co-founded the French Green Party in 1984 and is currently an elected member of the European Parliament.
    During an interview with left-wing French newspaper Le Nouvel Observateur, Cochet brazenly advocated proposals that would lead to the demographic suicide of the native French population….

    (From my earlier post)

    It is the Left who are obsessed with race, including race replacement as Yves Cochet is promoting.

  91. calli

    euphemism

    Brain failure picturing passion in the surf.

  92. feelthebern

    Bill Burr @ 7min mark.

  93. Oh come on

    Seriously. Cottrell clearly believes in antiquated notions of racial purity, just like the North Koreans do. He’s now trying to glom his pseudo-scientific bigotry onto the justifiable anti-globalist backlash. Don’t let him.

    Pretty funny how the racial supremacist types disprove their assertions by their very existence as knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers.

  94. struth

    Seriously. Cottrell clearly believes in antiquated notions of racial purity, just like the North Koreans do.

    Is that what is commonly called an assumption?

    Where is your proof that he is like that?

  95. Memoryvault

    Give him a definite “shmaybe” atm, lets see how he polishes up.

    The acid tests:
    He tries to run candidates in the HoR;
    He announces a whole heap of “policies”.

    Doing either is political suicide.

  96. Oh come on

    But go back and read it again.

    No, you read it again. And read what he wrote, not what you assume he meant. Don’t give me that crap about how the globalists want us all to miscegenate, for some reason. That is a load of horseshit. It is tinfoil hattery with a straight-up chaser of bigotry.

    I say again – if you agree with Cottrell above, you are a fucking dickhead and there is nothing more to say. Anyone who frets about miscegenation is a fucking dickhead. Period.

  97. struth

    And let’s get one other basic fact out there, seeing we are now working on language as Lizzie so correctly reminded us this morning.

    A white European man defending himself , his race and country from attacks based on his race, is not a white supremacist , he is a white defender, European defender, or honky defender , but a defender is not a supremacist.

  98. JC

    Oh Okay, I finally understood how I made the error that Anning was in Katter’s party from the outset. He entered the 2016 party under the One Nation flag. He left One Nation and subsequently joined Katter’s party. Three months later he was dumped.

    Since the 2016 election, Fraze has had three political affiliations and now starting his own. There was One Nation, then a loose grouping with some other cross benechbenchers, then Katter’s party and now forming his own.

    This demonstrates very stable underpinnings. Totally.

    Looks like he may have done all if not most of his inheritance too, so that’s a possible indication why he’s skulking around for the 3K from the taxpayer.

    Prior to his appointment to the Senate, he was facing bankruptcy legal action due to money owed to the Bendigo and Adelaide Bank which could have made him ineligible, but the case was withdrawn.[1]

  99. Oh come on

    Where is your proof that he is like that?

    Um, the proof is in what he said above. Spend, oh, five seconds researching the North Korean attitude to miscegenation and you’ll surely see the parallel.

  100. Bezos’s new lady friend is all class. She shared his sexting messages with other friends including pictures he took of himself. It was one of those friends who gave the story to the National Inquirer.

    Hope he thinks she is worth the $65 billion going to cost him in the divorce.

  101. Oh come on

    OCO, European MPs are pushing those ideas.

    They’re shit ideas.

    Honestly, let’s get past the race obsession, hey? It’s bad when the right does it and when the left does it.

  102. struth

    . Anyone who frets about miscegenation is a fucking dickhead. Period.

    No one necessarily is, but the globalists are trying to take identity from the proles, and it’s part of their plan.

    Noticing it happening, and understanding the reasons it’s happening is not fretting about it happening.
    It’s concern as to WHY it is happening.

    If racial mixing occurred because of the free movement and trade of people as has occurred in the past, no one would give a shit.

    But forced social engineering for sinister outcomes is a completely different story and as explained to you above, it’s left wing policy.
    Who’s the fucking dick head?

  103. mh

    OCO, what Cottrell has tweeted re miscegenation is probably being mild. What Yves Cochet is promoting is a step beyond this – total race replacement – and he is an MEP.

    “On the contrary. The rich countries, like France, are the first that need to decrease demographically. They are the ones with the most polluting lifestyles. Most of all, limiting our births would allow us to better receive the Muslim migrants who are knocking at our doors,” he concluded.

  104. struth

    Don’t give me that crap about how the globalists want us all to miscegenate, for some reason. That is a load of horseshit. It is tinfoil hattery with a straight-up chaser of bigotry.

    Sorry to spoil your day, OCO, but that’s exactly what’s going on.

  105. Oh come on

    Bezos is a cockhead. Fancy a 55yo man sending dick pics. He deserves to be divorced on the basis of that alone, even if he was sending them to his wife.

  106. bespoke

    slaves world wide to be of the one mixed up race of the future

    I don’t see at that way. I see it as getting groups to fight each other to distract from they are doing.

  107. JC

    ….but the globalists are trying to take identity from the proles, and it’s part of their plan.

    Struth, you’re always a decent dude, even if I disagree with a great deal of what you say.

    Here’s the problem though. Miscegenation has a very specific definition. It’s :

    the interbreeding of people considered to be of different racial types.

    Explain to me how this can occur? In order to interbreed one has to have sex… (lets leave the med alternative out for a second). How do the “globalists” force two people to have sex and procreate if they don’t want to? I really don’t get this one.

  108. Black Ball

    Ah well Terminator 2 Judgement Day is on again. There goes my afternoon. Action never ceases, great movie. Better than watching Kohli destroy our attack later today.

  109. JC

    mh

    How does the MEP go about reducing the numbers of French indig? It’s basically an aspiration by a moronic leftist idiot and there’s zero to be concerned with.

  110. feelthebern

    Sleepy Hollow is on too Black Ball.
    Johnny Depp’s last decent movie.
    1999.
    Jeepers, he hasn’t made a decent movie in 20 years.

  111. JC

    How Should These Nazis Be Punished, Libertarians?

    Protein diet only for at least 6 months. A large number of those dudes are way overweight.

  112. struth

    What do you think Multi culturalism is about OCO?

    It’s an attack on western identity, by diluting it to nothing.
    The attacks on whites is to dilute it away.
    Western white people are being targeted not for their skin colour but their experience.
    They are the ones who know what freedom feels like.
    They’ve experienced it. (They caused it)
    If the west had been created by blacks, they’d be wiped from the earth for the same reason.
    The UN wants a one government, one people world of slaves, who don’t know of a better world.
    And once the west is full of people who have not experienced the true freedom the west once celebrated, the borders will fall, and Soros, Gutterres and his mates get their way.

  113. Steve trickler

    Sad story. A story worth knowing.



  114. Black Ball

    Yes I did note that bern. Haven’t seen it in it’s entirety, recording now for future viewing.

  115. mh

    JC, Euro Greens have specific ideas on how to do this:

    “I suggest reversing our policy that encourages births, by inverting the logic of benefits payments for families. The more children you have, the fewer benefits you receive to the point of disappearing entirely after the third birth!” he stated.

    This aim is to reduce the numbers of the indigenous European, so those policies will not be targeted at the new arrivals.

  116. feelthebern

    If Anning wasn’t a yet another snout looking for a trough, he would have just focused on crime stats, welfare stats etc.
    He wouldn’t have hung out with dick bags or made zero upside comments in his senate speech.

  117. mh

    It’s an attack on western identity, by diluting it to nothing.

    Yep. The anti Australia Day agitating is about to get into full swing. It’s not like we don’t see examples of the Internationalist ideology in action.

  118. JC

    mh

    Just guessing, the euro greens are about 5% of the euro vote? I believe 5% of any large population at any time are complete nutballs.

    How eggsactly would that policy pass muster through the legislatures? Do you honestly believe it will?

  119. bespoke

    Black Ball
    #2905473, posted on January 12, 2019 at 3:39 pm

    Fact is stranger the fiction.

  120. JC

    mh

    Just guessing, the euro greens are about 5% of the euro vote? I believe 5% of any large population at any time are certifiable.

    How eggsactly would that policy pass muster through the legislatures? Do you honestly believe it will?

  121. struth

    How do the “globalists” force two people to have sex and procreate if they don’t want to? I really don’t get this one.

    Well, come over here and let me tell you about the birds and the bees…………………………………………

    You never have to force people to have sex, JC.

    If you were a young bloke in HK odds are you’d probably end up rooting an Asian.
    If you were in outer bum fuck Canada, maybe an Inuit.
    If in jail, a big hairy bloke named Ahmed.

    You get to chose only what you are surrounded by.
    Of course they want them to breed, and Mussies are perfect.
    Breed like rabbits, dumb as dog shit and due to their religion, no matter what country they are in, have never known freedom.

  122. Steve trickler

    Let us see what happens in the future when the MSM start going after AVI.

    Or will they?



  123. Black Ball

    Bespoke Zuckerberg might be liquid metal.

  124. mh

    JC, I will answere you when I stop laughing at Struth’s excellent post.

  125. Oh come on

    Sorry to spoil your day, OCO, but that’s exactly what’s going on.

    Absolute rubbish. Where is *your* proof that that is the case?

    Now be careful with what you and Cottrell are claiming here. Not many here are contending that the elites *aren’t* importing a bunch of people from backward-arse cultures who aren’t assimilating into the host society and are causing a bunch of problems. I’m certainly not.

    What I am contending is your (and Cottrell’s) assertion that the elites are doing this so that a whole bunch of miscegenation will take place because the elite wants all its future slaves to be all mixey racey, for some reason.

    You have no evidence of this whatsoever.

  126. JC

    Struth

    Dilution…

    Lets think this through. If the male female ratio doesn’t change in one particular grouping and that grouping doesn’t want to fuck outsiders even if the total relative proportion falls, then there is no miscegenation in a theoretical sense, is there?

  127. struth

    How eggsactly would that policy pass muster through the legislatures? Do you honestly believe it will?

    The UN bureaucracy is about 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.1 of the population of New York, but look what they’ve achieved.

    It’s more important to ask who has jack booted their way into the institutions, than think the democratic process can now help.

    They’ve gone past ignoring the voters to being straight out globalist traitors.

  128. Tel

    So who did he talk to? Did he seek a briefing from VICPOL and ask them awkward question? Did he visit the front line in Melbourne’s outer west? Did he interrogate or try to interrogate Sudanese ‘community leaders”? Did he talk to a range of victims?

    There isn’t a lot of public information about exactly who was there, but Anning must have talked to a few people. Maybe not the people who you think he should have … but that’s your opinion. The decision comes down to what the voters think next election. Given that none of the others even make the slightest effort to notice the gang violence problem, I guess when there’s a choice of one option only you don’t quibble too much about the details.

    Let me ask who Tony Burke talked to while in Europe spending $48k to curl up with his secretary in some luxury hotel in 2009 ? Did Burke interview the correct people by your standards? Of course Burke got voted back in again in 2016 despite all of this being public knowledge so that’s then end of that.

    What about Bronwyn Bishop spending $50k visiting Ecuador, Peru and Argentina in 2015? There was a whole delegation of them, and the others presumably spent about the same. I actually found the report on that one … here’s the very sincere resolutions they came up with:

    Strengthening peace and stability in the Asia-Pacific Region

    Alternative policies and new approaches to combat terrorism and other transnational organised crime

    Open and non-exclusive cooperation to foster free trade growth, investment and sustainable development

    Mobility of social rights and a common legislative framework for social protection

    Cooperation in disaster prevention

    Mobility of social rights? That doesn’t even mean anything. The whole bunch of them got to cruise around, and then deliver a handful of pointless motherhood statements (which do nothing for Australia, and they ARE just another way to get onto the news for self-promotion purposes).

    As for ‘getting himself on the news’, well a fundamental principle of Westminster democracy is that taxpayers funds shouldn’t be used by politicians to promote themselves and their politics. That’s what the ‘Red Shirts’ scandal in Victoria is all about, or should be all about. It was – as you admit – a political stunt and we shouldn’t have to pay for it.

    Hang on, every single election the taxpayers spoon out money to all the major parties explicitly for the purpose of political promotion. Show me documentation of this “fundamental principle of Westminster democracy” because if it existed then this thing would not be able to happen…

    https://aec.gov.au/Parties_and_Representatives/public_funding/Current_Funding_Rate.htm

    As for the “Red Shirts” scandal, well they got away with that and most people of Victoria are happy to see their money spent that way. They could have voted for anyone, but they wanted more ALP. Parliament is a self-regulating sovereign entity, and Parliament is OK with the deal … that’s Westminster democracy.

  129. feelthebern

    Johnny Depp was in Public Enemies & From Hell post Sleepy Hollow.
    In 20 years only made 3 decent movies.
    No wonder he’s gone broke.

  130. Stimpson J. Cat

    “I know the H-1B very well. And it’s something that I, frankly, use, and I shouldn’t be allowed to use it. We shouldn’t have it…It’s very bad for business in terms of — and it’s very bad for our workers and it’s unfair for our workers. And we should end it.” – Donald Trump 2016

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship. We want to encourage talented and highly skilled people to pursue career options in the U.S.
    8:40 PM · Jan 11, 2019

    Make India Great Again!

  131. John Constantine

    Offhand JC, if the overthrow of western industrial civilisation and the genocide of Europe was desired, then importing mass millions of single military age revolutionary freedom fighters from a polygamous raiding culture into the breeding market would be one way of doing it.

    Have the State pay for any children their imports father.

    Progress the attitudes of young chicks and encourage being gang banged by cousin clans as something daring and open minded girls try to see if they like it.

    Polygamous peasant cultures generate masses of excess and unwanted cannon fodder males. Fly millions of these into western countries to pot rebellious and livid young vegan activists who are educated to put out for refugees as compensation for racism and to punish daddy for not buying her a pony.

    Comrade.

  132. Tel

    If Anning wasn’t a yet another snout looking for a trough, he would have just focused on crime stats, welfare stats etc.

    Yeah, he could give Senate speeches to an empty room and then post the video on YouTube where it gets five and a half viewers. You know who I’m talking about and it ain’t the guy rebuilding the vintage Ford.

  133. JC

    Of course they want them to breed, and Mussies are perfect.
    Breed like rabbits, dumb as dog shit and due to their religion, no matter what country they are in, have never known freedom.

    Feel relieved because the theory that Muslims will out breed anyone else is making a very quick retreat. Most recent evidence shows that the fertility rate in almost every single middle east country is collapsing at the rate never seen or even remotely predicted by demographers 15 odd years ago. The huge problem for mid east going into the future is a nation of old geezers with little economic surplus to stop them in old age.

    One reasonable prediction you can make is that in the near future.. near like 2050 onward, a big chunk of foreign aid from the rich world will be to take care of old, poor mid easterners.

  134. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yeah, he could give Senate speeches to an empty room and then post the video on YouTube where it gets five and a half viewers. You know who I’m talking about and it ain’t the guy rebuilding the vintage Ford.

    Or write Christmas Songs and sing them in Parliament.

  135. John Constantine

    If the ruling classes truly desired rapid replacement of the existing prole Class, you would see a blind eye turned by the State to imported child grooming and exploiting organised crime gangs.

    Imagine that happening in the West.

  136. feelthebern

    Anning’s aims:
    1) get enough votes in QLD to yet a senate seat (unlikely);
    2) get enough votes to meet the threshold for tax payer funding (the real goal).

    Just like Oaky & Windsor & the reason why Hanson ran in some many elections prior to getting back in.
    They all just want tax payer dollars.

  137. Oh come on

    It’s an attack on western identity, by diluting it to nothing.
    The attacks on whites is to dilute it away.

    Ah. Here’s your problem. You think Western identity and white identity are one and the same. They aren’t.

  138. feelthebern

    It’s the system that has bankrolled the Libs & Labor for so long.

  139. John Constantine

    JC, the fertility thing can be examined by checking the most common names given to newborns in Australian capital city hospitals.

    Not Peter Paul and Mary anymore.

  140. Mitch M.

    Feel relieved because the theory that Muslims will out breed anyone else is making a very quick retreat. Most recent evidence shows that the fertility rate in almost every single middle east country is collapsing at the rate never seen or even remotely predicted by demographers 15 odd years ago. The huge problem for mid east going into the future is a nation of old geezers with little economic surplus to stop them in old age.

    One reasonable prediction you can make is that in the near future.. near like 2050 onward, a big chunk of foreign aid from the rich world will be to take care of old, poor mid easterners.

    Agreed. If there is a cabal trying to destroy Europe with immigration they are not succeeding because Sweden, Germany, and Denmark are making strident attempts to get rid of the ones they let in or in the very least make life there unpleasant for them. If outbreeding competitors was a means of world domination Catholicism would own the globe. 🙂

  141. Steve trickler

    Light a fire alongside the ocean, such as this, in Australia, and you’ll probably cop a fine.

    You’d have to be in a remote spot to get away with it.



  142. mh

    Just guessing, the euro greens are about 5% of the euro vote? I believe 5% of any large population at any time are certifiable.

    How eggsactly would that policy pass muster through the legislatures? Do you honestly believe it will?

    Reproduction levels are so low anyway those progressive ideas may not need to be legislated by those who want that outcome. I would say that the populist movement has been pushed along with the election of Trump so who knows where things are heading.

    The Euro Green ideas are progressive ideas, and we know from history that Hitler was influenced by progressive ideas like eugenics. Never rely on the idea that only a small percentage of the population are nutters.

  143. Dr Fred Lenin

    Isnt it amazing the gall of these little gangrene prats in the rubber stamp European “parliament)haha,wonder if he got permission from the comissar for race detruction to make this statement about reducing the white population ? The speech resembles the Wanasee ravings of hitlers german socialists about the j—-ish question ,and we all know what that led to . What is it about socialists and wiping people out ? They have a talent for it , hitler,stalin,mao. Pol pot the Korean kims ,castro che etc etc . Must be part of the narxist dogma .

  144. JC

    Offhand JC, if the overthrow of western industrial civilisation and the genocide of Europe was desired, then importing mass millions of single military age revolutionary freedom fighters from a polygamous raiding culture into the breeding market would be one way of doing it.

    John C, that’s not miscegenation. It’s something different, but I take your point. But really (and this doesn’t apply to all) but are the fucking Swedes worth saving? Do you even care?
    If history is any guide, Europe is better off without those canutes.
    1. Leftist government for 70 straight years and the political party having direct lineage to Marx.
    2. Killing kids for most of the 20th century
    3. Acid rain scare fraud
    4. gerbil cooling scare fraud
    5. gerbil warming scare fraud.

    These canutes are better off disappearing.

    Progress the attitudes of young chicks and encourage being gang banged by cousin clans as something daring and open minded girls try to see if they like it.

    Polygamous peasant cultures generate masses of excess and unwanted cannon fodder males. Fly millions of these into western countries to pot rebellious and livid young vegan activists who are educated to put out for refugees as compensation for racism and to punish daddy for not buying her a pony.

    JohnC , the issue isn’t about importing these bumpkins here. We shouldn’t. The debate is about the specific argument of forced miscegenation. It’s total bullshit.

  145. struth

    What I am contending is your (and Cottrell’s) assertion that the elites are doing this so that a whole bunch of miscegenation will take place because the elite wants all its future slaves to be all mixey racey, for some reason

    You idiot.
    It’s about removing threat.
    Mixed up races and cultures are conquered cultures.
    Conquering the culture is all that is important.

    You seem to have not studied human behaviour too much.

    Look at Evonne Goolagong.

    Knew nothing about her Southern Australian Abo culture but looked in the mirror and saw a black skin.
    Desperate to know her culture she ran off to similar coloured people in a completely different part of Australia with a completely different culture but claimed it as her own .

    Race is a form of Identity.
    Culture is a form of Identity.

    Nowadays the socialist UN want you to think of yourself as a global citizen.
    Not any certain culture, and not any certain race.
    Definitely not any certain nationality.

    In all those areas they are moving to homogenize them to the one global citizen (under their socialist slave masters)
    Whites just happen to be the race of the west, so there is extra effort going toward deleting them.
    Because the west is the problem.
    This is the chosen method to destroy it, as we are seeing.

    I would also add that you are forgetting the racism inherent in socialism and left wing minds.
    Just because their actions make no sense to you, doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be doing it.

    And many races, unfortunately, and irrationally, are scared of white people, envy them, and do feel inferior etc.
    They’re racist, pure and simply.

  146. Tel:

    So who did he talk to? Did he seek a briefing from VICPOL and ask them awkward question? Did he visit the front line in Melbourne’s outer west? Did he interrogate or try to interrogate Sudanese ‘community leaders”?

    Why on earth would Anning talk to these people?
    They’re part of the problem, not the solution!

  147. feelthebern

    The real problems with Muslims is that they are Statists.
    Until they apostatise they have no hope.
    The world needs to give free smart phones to the Muslim world.
    The sooner they are watching p0rn & gambling the less they will listen to the clerics.
    Then we’ll see real progress in the middle east.

  148. cohenite

    Frightening. Imagine being called names by the resident national socialist.

    The head prefect defaults to Godwins Law again. Basically he is saying if you criticise islam you’re a Nazi.

    What is your view on islam head prefect?

  149. struth

    Ah. Here’s your problem. You think Western identity and white identity are one and the same. They aren’t.

    Ah, here’s your problem.
    I don’t think that. Lefties definitely do think that, something I hope you don’t deny faced with the whole white privilege male bullshit going around.

    That’s why I’m telling you what they are doing and why.
    Not saying I agree with it for FS.

  150. John Constantine

    Had to deal with some young Wahhabi’s not long ago.

    The call to prayer was the mobile phone ringtone of one, they dragged out the prayer mats to do passive aggressive time-wasting on me, they excitedly flashed a cash roll and boasted it came from the casino, the rest busied themselves doing tinder on their phones while one talked.

    So when mobiles are supplied to raiding cultures, they are simply used as means of enabling more efficient raiding.

    Comrades.

  151. Oh come on

    Race does not equal culture, you idiot. Race is a pseudo-scientific, subjective and arbitrary distinction.

    And I didn’t bother reading whatever you wrote about Evonne Goolagong. I’ve no doubt it proves nothing and is also brain-bleedingly moronic into the bargain.

  152. struth

    Feel relieved because the theory that Muslims will out breed anyone else is making a very quick retreat. Most recent evidence shows that the fertility rate in almost every single middle east country is collapsing at the rate never seen or even remotely predicted by demographers 15 odd years ago

    Not so in Western countries where their population is booming.

    Agreed. If there is a cabal trying to destroy Europe with immigration they are not succeeding because Sweden, Germany, and Denmark are making strident attempts to get rid of the ones they let in or in the very least make life there unpleasant for them. If outbreeding competitors was a means of world domination Catholicism would own the globe.

    This is not an argument it’s a commentary of results.
    If we state the UN plan is thus, and you state, “well it’s not working” it doesn’t mean it’s not the EU/UN globalist plan.
    No one said these pricks were bright.
    Just your average garden variety racist , rule ze vorld , socialists.

    The left are anti west.
    THEY SEE the white man as the west.
    The west needs eliminating as do all nation states before you can RULE ZE VORLD!

    Pleasant chatting to you chaps but I must fly…………………..

  153. Oh come on

    I don’t think that

    You do*. You just haven’t figured out you do.

    *you said so above.

  154. Black Ball

    And many races, unfortunately, and irrationally, are scared of white people, envy them, and do feel inferior etc.
    They’re racist, pure and simply.

    I find Struth that it’s envy. Envy of the fruits of Western values that have given us unprecedented wealth and health. Which as you correctly point out is being redistributed by the clowns at the UN under the guise of climate change. Look at the rubbish surrounding Australia Day. Calls for repatriation and the moving of Australia Day to another date. So we will have blacks walking solemnly in their Nike shoes filming proceedings on the Samsung phone. Because envy of a thriving white economy on supposed stolen lands.

  155. Stimpson J. Cat

    Look guys there is no shame in marrying an ethnic or a refugee.
    Even I have done it!
    Don’t be embarrassed or ashamed.
    Be honest.

  156. calli

    Thank you Tel. Good to see the brouhaha in proportion.

    We need to get rid of “study tours” and the like. But how? Both parties, and “independent” hopefuls slurp on them.

  157. struth

    Race does not equal culture, you idiot. Race is a pseudo-scientific, subjective and arbitrary distinction.

    Yes and no.

    However, it’s not that I believe race equals culture, it’s what the racist left believe, that is the reason for it.

    I am telling you that they are racists and racists against whites and would prefer as little culture and race and identity in their “global citizens “as they can achieve.

    This isn’t me wanting this OCO, it’s me saying why whites are being attacked.

    Hey I’m no scientist but I know an Asian when I’m looking at one, and a negro as well.
    Heck , if you put a white man in the line up, I can pick him out as well.

  158. JC

    Not all all cronkers. I didn’t make that claim and in fact stated quite categorically that Jim Salem nazi types in Australia would number no more than a handful of loons. I also was very, very, very clear I don’t consider you a Nazi in the least. I believe, through reading your many posts here you’re a fascist in the traditional model of a national socialist. It’s not to get at you in any way. It’s how you’re perceived by the stuff you post. Embrace it!

    The head prefect defaults to Godwins Law again.

    Godwin’s law is a leftist headfake, Cronkite. It was devised to be used as a tool when leftists get to the point where they’re essentially displaying their totalitarian instincts they can run for the cover of Godwin’s law. You’ve just done that, providing a little more evidence of you national socialist totalitarian tendencies. The earlier comment was also another example.

    Basically he is saying if you criticise islam you’re a Nazi.

    Deranged. You’re either deranged to hallucinating in a parallel universe.

    What is your view on islam head prefect?

    Cronkers, I’ve explained to you many times I’m happy to answer any of your questions, but you firstly have to get through those I asked of you and neglected to answer. There’s no getting away from this, you sad little dissembling piker.
    Be an honest debater, even if you’re a terrible one. Strive!

  159. struth

    *you said so above.

    Go for it.

    Show me where?

  160. mh

    “For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure–one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
    ― David Rockefeller

    That was in Rockefeller’s 2002 book Memoirs. There was a book signing event at the
    U.N. headquarters in New York attended by Kofi Anna.

  161. Elle

    I can’t access Twitter links for some reason.

  162. Oh come on

    Look, you want to say that the left is trying to white-ant Western civilisation, then ok. I personally wouldn’t describe what’s going on as a dilution – it’s much more of a corrosive effect. But dilute, OK, fine. I can go there with you.

    When you start crapping on about diluting whiteness, however, no. That is where we emphatically part ways.

    Cottrell is an old-fashioned racist. He’s terribly worried about whites breeding with non-whites. That is his core concern. The anti-globalist thing is his Trojan horse.

  163. Memoryvault

    We need to get rid of “study tours” and the like. But how?

    Tel (I think) spelled it out earlier. Scrap all the “parliamentary allowances” and “guidelines” BS, and make them claim it as expenses on their tax returns.

    Simples.

  164. struth

    I find Struth that it’s envy

    Nowadays I find that Marxists have got hold of aboriginal kids, and told them we are the enemy.

    “White Australia”

    the feared western white man.
    That man, I being one of those, who am not a racist, who’s culture, technology and medicines I wish to see used by and to help every race on earth.
    And I’ll use what’s good about theirs……………………………

  165. Memoryvault

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    Why?

  166. Old Lefty

    Now that Fatty Ashton’s forces have discovered McLachlan, will they do anything about the stories circulating for decades about the availability of drunk and/or stoned teen girls in the green room and at the afterparties of a legendary show at a certain studio in south-east Melbourne? Of course not- it’s the ABC.

    (As I don’t want to end up in the dock like archbishop Wilson, I passed on what I have heard – all second or third hand – about this to McLellan’s Royal Commission and to Crimestoppers, where it sank without trace as one would expect.)

    Speaking of the ABC, does anyone know anything about a second set of charges against their former producer Jon Stephens, who has already done time for indecent assault on a minor on an ABC assignment?

  167. C.L.

    Don’t give me that crap about how the globalists want us all to miscegenate, for some reason. That is a load of horseshit. It is tinfoil hattery with a straight-up chaser of bigotry.

    Well, sorry but no, it isn’t horseshit at all.
    There are indeed internationalists, they are indeed running meta-policy in the contemporary world (especially about migrations) and they do indeed wish to swamp-bolish all of the traditionally white nations. Not for “some reason” but for the very specific reason that they ideologically loathe white, ‘privileged’ and Christian nations. They always have. I find it incredible that anybody paying attention could not have noticed this.

    Race is a pseudo-scientific, subjective and arbitrary distinction.

    So Al Sharpton and Agnetha Fältskog are indistinguishable, are they?

  168. JC

    Memoryvault
    #2905538, posted on January 12, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    Why?

    The out there conspiracy is always strong with this one.

  169. Feelthe bern:

    The world needs to give free smart phones to the Muslim world.
    The sooner they are watching p0rn & gambling the less they will listen to the clerics.

    Too late Ftb.
    I had it explained to me that – even in the 90’s – Arabic porn was the most degrading stuff around.
    And most of it was about thrill killing white women post bestiality.
    I took the advice and never went near the stuff.

  170. struth

    When you start crapping on about diluting whiteness, however, no. That is where we emphatically part ways.

    I don’t care about whiteness being diluted.
    I care about the culture being deluded, and then only the key parts like democracy, free speech and the rule of law, private ownership etc.
    Much of Australian culture I wouldn’t give you two bob for.
    I think it’s a nation full of wankers.
    However, again my point is this, and I’ll type slowly for you.

    They are trying to wipe out whiteness.
    Observing racists wishing to do this, is not racist.
    Racists (who you know are always on about whites) socialists

    ARE BLAMING THE WHITE MAN for the world’s ills.

    Was the jooo in 1930’s Germany racist for pointing out his mob were heading for the shower block?

  171. struth

    And by the way, I’ve openly said racist many times without being put into moderation

  172. Old Lefty

    A little research on the legal system in Yarragrad yields some interesting results. The independent and apolitical Office of Public Prosecutions (senior solicitor: John Cain III) has a Twitter page. On it you will find the following:

    OPP Victoria Retweeted
    Victorian Government News‏Verified account @VicGovtNews 28 Nov 2018
    A Strong Team To Keep Delivering For All Victorians – https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/a-strong-team-to-keep-delivering-for-all-victorians/ … #springst

    [Andrews’ gloating and tendentious press release on the swearing in of his second government, as if we needed the OPP to tell us]

    OPP Victoria Retweeted
    Rob Hulls‏ @HullsRob 5 Dec 2018
    Three years ago today my funny, complex, warm, stoic, resilient brother Matt passed away. This was his story and why the Royal Commission into Mental Health is so important. Miss ya big fella.
    [Age story link follows]

    Now we can all sympathise with Rob Hulls over his brother, but is retweeting material of this type compatible with being apolitical? It is in Yarragrad, apparently.

    One wonders if John Cain III shares Daddy’s antipathy to the DLP and all connected with it.

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/cain-warns-on-dlp-comeback-20070216-ge48jx.html

  173. JC

    Not for “some reason” but for the very specific reason that they ideologically loathe white, ‘privileged’ and Christian nations.

    What western nations identify as Christian by your definition rather than secular? And I would define their identity by way of their (Legal)laws, cultural lores.

  174. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Don’t give me that crap about how the globalists want us all to miscegenate, for some reason. That is a load of horseshit. It is tinfoil hattery with a straight-up chaser of bigotry.

    Someone has never heard of Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi.

    Do some research then come back and report.

  175. struth

    I care about the culture being deluded

    Diluted, but yeah, that too.

  176. Memoryvault

    Calli’s query and Tel’s response from earlier are a “conspiracy”?
    Who’d a thunk it?

  177. Oh come on

    Show me where?

    Here:

    It’s an attack on western identity, by diluting it to nothing.
    The attacks on whites is to dilute it away.

    And here

    Whites just happen to be the race of the west

    You said it a few other times, but whatever.

    And I don’t need you to tell me what the left is doing. I know perfectly well what is going on. It is you that does not understand what the left is doing. And you are falling into their trap, as well.

    You claim not to be racist and that it is they who are the real racists. Yeah, well that’s what they say about you. Guess what? You are both right. You and they are photo negatives of one and other. You are race-obsessed, as they are.

    It’s pretty funny that you don’t even realise how similar you and they are. Your ends are somehwat different but you both use the same means to get there.

  178. feelthebern

    Bishop at the polo.
    I wonder how she’s worked that into “work” trip.

  179. struth

    What western nations identify as Christian by your definition rather than secular?

    Ours.
    It’s in the first sentence of the constitution and the laws of the land are based on the bible and Christian values.
    They say (or said) prayers to a Christian god on opening of parliament and you swore on a bible.
    That it is a shithole now is because people like to believe some other fairy tale brought us to this point.

  180. feelthebern

    There should be equal outcry abouts Bishops travel expenses as what there was about Annings.

  181. struth

    Oh poor OCO.

    I can only explain it as I have.
    The reasons racists are doing to whites what they are doing.

    I’ve gotta go.

    It was good this arvo, but Oco, please look at what I actually said.

  182. struth

    Was the jooo in 1930’s Germany racist for pointing out his mob were heading for the shower block?

    Yes or no, OCO?

  183. struth

    Anning’s travel expenses versus Clinton crime foundation donations.

  184. Culture dilution is when people eat something either than meat pies at the footy.

  185. Black Ball

    Watching the BDO Darts World Championship with the ladies playing. Hopefully not on pay parity as their male counterparts. Legs taking 24-30 darts to wrap up a leg. Dean Winstanley’s missus.

  186. Tel

    We need to get rid of “study tours” and the like. But how? Both parties, and “independent” hopefuls slurp on them.

    I would be happy to get rid of all travel allowance, all “fact finding” study tours, any payments after elections, and give them a small number of shared facilities like Internet wifi, some meeting rooms, video conference facilities, a library, and hot-desks (everyone else gets these inflicted upon them).

    However, these are small bananas in the scheme of things. Australia is still going out the back door at a rate of many billions per year. It takes a lot of thousand dollar savings to add up to a billion.

  187. Oh come on

    There are indeed internationalists, they are indeed running meta-policy in the contemporary world (especially about migrations) and they do indeed wish to swamp-bolish all of the traditionally white nations

    Yes but not because these nations are traditionally white. The traditionally white nations are now a lot less white than before. And a lot of non-whites in these nations share the same concerns that you and I do. Why make this about whiteness? I mean, I realise the left does this but isn’t that what is contemptible about them? Okay, they want to say black and brown people are victims of nasty white men. The appropriate response is no they’re not, you dopey morons, and here’s why.

    The worst response is to reply in kind, ie ‘no, white men aren’t nasty at all, we need to protect white men (and actually white men are kinda victims of black and brown people)’. You’re doing it wrong.

    Individuals ought to be judged on their merits and their deeds. That’s it. That’s the counter-argument to the left, their client classes and their victim/oppressor narrative.

    So Al Sharpton and Agnetha Fältskog are indistinguishable, are they?

    There is variation within the species, no one is denying that.

    Let me finish where I began. My primary contention is that anyone fretting about miscegenation might cloak themselves in anti-globalist garb, but penny to a pound their main concern is racial purity. If they could ensure that via globalist means, I’ve no doubt they would.

  188. Roger

    Bishop at the polo. I wonder how she’s worked that into “work” trip.

    Easy – as I understand it they just have to work one or two work related appointments/meetings into the trip and it’s covered.

  189. Mitch M.

    We need to get rid of “study tours” and the like. But how? Both parties, and “independent” hopefuls slurp on them.

    Subject those to the same constraints as specified in the ITAA(FBT regulations IIRC) regarding what constitutes a valid travel expense and if the expenses fall outside of those constraints they must pay those costs. That’ll fix it.

  190. Oh come on

    Yes or no, OCO?

    What are you on about?

  191. calli

    Agreed. However, these types or rorts decay any ethical, hardworking drive among the plebs.

    Why should I work my *rse off when The Honourable Poobah simply pees my taxes away on thinly disguised all expenses paid holidays (amongst other flagrant troughing)?

    Those attitudes add up too.

  192. Roger

    Those engaged in the discussion about miscegenation might like to check out the book I referred to up thread before it all started: Whiteshift by Eric Kaufmann.

  193. calli

    But how are they “subjected” when both parties will resist any change to their conditions?

    We only pretend to ourselves that we employ them and they are where they are to serve us.

  194. MatrixTransform

    @ OCO’s Argument from Incredulity.

    *shakes head

    Personally, I can’t believe anybody could be silly enough to make an argument that isn’t an argument

    ok, whilst not trying to a smart-arse … OCO mate, you need to brush-up on how this comments section thing really works.

    being a smart-arse again, just the name OCO signals incredulity will follow.

    the mind boggles

  195. Oh come on

    So Al Sharpton and Agnetha Fältskog are indistinguishable, are they?

    I say again, the concept of race is pseudo-scientific, subjective and arbitrarily applied.

    Al Sharpton may claim to feel some sort of kinship with your average Liberian that he doesn’t feel with your average white American, but let him spend some time with both and then we’ll see who he feels more comfortable spending time with.

  196. Memoryvault

    So fire them, Calli.

  197. struth

    Calling out racists in OCO’s view, is racist.

    Whether or not calling it out is the right step to take has no bearing on the fact that calling out racism is not racist.

    Was the jooo in 1930’s Germany being racist for pointing out his mob were heading for the shower block based on race?

    Yes or no, OCO?

  198. MatrixTransform

    Oh Come On … the arguments from incredulity shall follow

  199. Mitch M.

    Race is a pseudo-scientific, subjective and arbitrary distinction.

    It is not a scientific concept but that does not make it a subjective arbitrary distinction. Forensic pathologists with 80% accuracy can identify an individuals’ origins via skull shape alone. There are clear biological differences across the 3 major human groups. If you want to get really spooky about it go look up some genetic maps of Europe and see how closely those correspond to national borders. I don’t think race is very useful concept and and because of interbreeding will become more irrelevant over coming decades.

    I don’t understand all this paranoia about the decline of the west. It becomes more dominant with each decade. If you’re that concerned about preserving your culture perhaps you can appreciate why so many become so upset at the way the West works its way into so many cultures and slowly but surely dominates them.

  200. struth

    Why make this about whiteness?

    It’s all been explained above.
    Really it has.

  201. struth

    I don’t understand all this paranoia about the decline of the west. It becomes more dominant with each decade. If you’re that concerned about preserving your culture perhaps you can appreciate why so many become so upset at the way the West works its way into so many cultures and slowly but surely dominates them.

    Holy shit, mate.
    Stick to medicine.
    Where’s the army of millions pouring into Saudi Arabia?

    There’s not been one case of westerners jumping into a tyre tube to get to Cuba.

    It becomes more dominant with each decade.

    Oh dear………………..

  202. Speedbox

    Carpe Jugulum
    #2905357, posted on January 12, 2019 at 12:41 pm

    Been back in Aust for a week now and i have a few observations from when i was there 3 years ago….

    ….How the hell do people afford to live here?

    I always laugh when Australians return from their first overseas trip proclaiming how ‘cheap’ everything was at their destination. No, I say, that is the normal price – in Australia, we pay inflated prices for most goods.

    I was reading some interesting statistics on the number of Australians living overseas whilst collecting the Oz pension. The number of those people is well into the tens of thousands – and not entirely surprising either.

    There are online magazines and ‘clubs’ for retirees who choose to live elsewhere. All of these seem to have a common thread – the retirees have low levels (generally) of superannuation and/or do not own substantially valuable real estate AND, they have determined that their level of savings/assets will be extinguished well before their death given the cost of living in Australia.

    So, in order to extend their limited savings whilst having some dignity to their retirement, they opt for living in other countries with their income supplemented by the age pension. Obviously, there are a number of serious trade-offs for this enhanced financial longevity and anyone considering this action should do some detailed research beforehand.

    Having said that, it is do-able (subject to rule compliance) and some locations could provide a wonderful retirement outlook and community.

    Naturally, the Government is less than impressed and wants our poor and old to suffer here.

  203. Oh come on

    Struth, you think you’ve made yourself clear. I disagree. I think I’ve made myself clear. You disagree. I don’t think we’re going to get past this.

    Now, you’ve said you were leaving two or three times already. Leave or stay, I don’t care. But I don’t have anything more to say to you about this than I already have done.

  204. Des Deskperson berating Senator Anning stated “a fundamental principle of Westminster democracy is that taxpayers funds shouldn’t be used by politicians to promote themselves and their politics.”

    Regarding principles, I couldn’t find that one. But I did find in the Bill of Rights 1688-89, LAW in all Australian states. ” That the freedom of speech and debates or proceedings in Parliament ought not to be impeached or questioned in any court or place out of
    Parliament;

    And goodness gracious me! Just above it, “That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law;

    Well, well, well.

  205. mh

    Those engaged in the discussion about miscegenation might like to check out the book I referred to up thread before it all started: Whiteshift by Eric Kaufmann.

    Presumably Kaufmann is J*wish. Your link doesn’t really give a clue on the point he is making. Of course the racial demographics are changing, people are crashing through open borders or being invited to come.

  206. Black Ball

    Mmmyes Australia’s summer from Hades will be forgotten if this keeps up at the SCG

  207. MatrixTransform

    anything more to say to you about this than I already have done

    OMG, that’s totally insane … giving up like that, you must be raciss

  208. egg_

    Re the soyboy Wheel of Virtue game show:

    Use the most virtuous buzzwords in a sentence.
    Your topic: My Last Holiday

    “Whilst we were staying at an eco-friendly resort in Bali, we donated gifts of appreciation to the local Balinese staff that we and our children hand made from organically grown twine, hemp and herbs.”

  209. Oh come on

    It is not a scientific concept but that does not make it a subjective arbitrary distinction.

    Yes, it is. The races that are commonly considered to exist today are very different from the races that were commonly considered to exist in the 19th century, fairly different from those commonly considered to exist a century ago – even quite different from those from 50 years ago.

    Variation amongst the species exists. We informally group what appear to to us to be similar characteristics using race. But this changes all the time.

  210. Oh come on

    Yes, it does, not yes it is.

  211. Leigh Lowe

    Did anyone get a text message from John the Bookie during the break?

  212. calli

    So fire them, Calli.

    Sure. Gotta match?

  213. JC

    Excellent comment Mitch M. Keep them coming as this place needs them.

  214. Memoryvault

    Sure. Gotta match?

    Yeah.
    You only need one.

  215. Confused Old Misfit

    If you’re that concerned about preserving your culture perhaps you can appreciate why so many become so upset at the way the West works its way into so many cultures and slowly but surely dominates them.

    Clearly, if “so many become so upset at the way the West works its way into so many cultures” it is because that “so many” were not enough to overcome their co-culturists’ desires for that which western culture is offering.
    As has been so often observed, you do not see massive immigration to China, Japan, India or South Africa.

  216. Oh come on

    I like the way more and more black Americans are abandoning the term ‘African-American’. This is a move in the right direction. ‘Why am I African anything? I haven’t even visited Africa. I’m an American who’s black.’ Good for them. I like that attitude.

  217. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I don’t understand all this paranoia about the decline of the west. It becomes more dominant with each decade. If you’re that concerned about preserving your culture perhaps you can appreciate why so many become so upset at the way the West works its way into so many cultures and slowly but surely dominates them.

    They appropriate it because it works better than the shit they had.

  218. Des Deskperson

    Tel, some points

    What other politicians may have gotten away with is irrelevant. We are talking about Anning here.

    Public funding for political parties was introduced by the Hawke government in 1984 as a sort of political equal opportunity arrangement. It doesn’t mean that politicians can, on a day to day basis, use funds provided by the taxpayer to meet their parliamentary and electoral responsibilities, for propaganda and oner political purposes. The Department of Finance website has the legislative, regulative and policy basis for this.

    Your paragraph on the red shirts scandal is a bit confusing. but you seem to be saying that everyone does it, so it’s OK. This seems to be common theme among the Anningophiles, but you all need to realise that if it’s OK for Anning, it’s OK for Sarah Sea Cow’s whale watching. and OK for the Greens ‘invasion day’ rallies,

  219. egg_

    I don’t understand all this paranoia about the decline of the west. It becomes more dominant with each decade. If you’re that concerned about preserving your culture perhaps you can appreciate why so many become so upset at the way the West works its way into so many cultures and slowly but surely dominates them.

    Then Kenya and Seth Efrica revert to native.

  220. calli

    “The west” is an abstraction, like “the East”. Means something different to everyone.

    Curiously, you can cross the Bosphorus and not notice much of a change.

  221. Mitch M.

    Clearly, if “so many become so upset at the way the West works its way into so many cultures” it is because that “so many” were not enough to overcome their co-culturists’ desires for that which western culture is offering.
    As has been so often observed, you do not see massive immigration to China, Japan, India or South Africa.

    True, which is why the West is winning. Is there are previously Western nation that is now totalitarian\socialist\communist, \abandoned the rule of law nationalised everything? The last 40 years the trend has been clear: the West is winning. You can argue this qualitative stuff til the cows come home but quantitatively the West is winning.

  222. calli

    They appropriate it

    If it was simply appropriated, without caveats, there wouldn’t be a problem.

  223. Confused Old Misfit

    Doc Mitch might want too give some thought into HOW the insidious west seduces the innocents of other cultures.
    I can’t see that, in the modern period at least, and in the Middle and Far East and Asia it has been by mass migration. Only perhaps in North America and Australia and maybe South Africa could “westerners” be accused of that.
    Economic colonization? Perhaps guilty as charged but only with the enthusiastic cooperation of the colonized.

  224. Mitch M.

    Then Kenya and Seth Efrica revert to native.

    After so long there are a handful of African nations showing real signs of catching up with sustained 6% GDP growth. They are becoming like us. That is happening all over the world yet people are trying to tell me the West is about to implode? Is it any wonder that so many people interpret those writing as being little more than disguised racism? I don’t it is typically disguised racism, I think much of comes from people who have a too fixed view of cultures, as if these must forever stay the way they are.

  225. MatrixTransform

    I like the way more and more black Americans are abandoning the term ‘African-American’. This is a move in the right direction. ‘Why am I African anything? I haven’t even visited Africa. I’m an American who’s black.’ Good for them. I like that attitude.

    are you a black american?

    bigotry of low expectations much?

  226. Tel

    Is there are previously Western nation that is now totalitarian\socialist\communist, \abandoned the rule of law nationalised everything?

    Are you counting the EU as a nation, or do you want to wait out the next ten years so they can complete the formalities?

  227. egg_

    Then Kenya and Seth Efrica revert to native.

    The Nordics’ view that corruption increases proportionally as you approach the Equator?
    EU PIGS, etc.?

  228. Snoopy

    After so long there are a handful of African nations showing real signs of catching up with sustained 6% GDP growth. They are becoming like us.

    Uh huh.

  229. Mitch M.

    Uh huh.

    Snoopy a week ago I wouldn’t have believed it either ….

  230. struth

    The Western nations are not winning.
    They are being plundered.

  231. Rae

    Doc Mitch might want too give some thought into HOW the insidious west seduces the innocents of other cultures.
    I can’t see that, in the modern period at least, and in the Middle and Far East and Asia it has been by mass migration. Only perhaps in North America and Australia and maybe South Africa could “westerners” be accused of that.

    And Central and South America.

  232. struth

    I think Mitch is Sco Mo.

    GDP winning!!!!!!

  233. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I like the way more and more black Americans are abandoning the term ‘African-American’. This is a move in the right direction. ‘Why am I African anything? I haven’t even visited Africa. I’m an American who’s black.’ Good for them. I like that attitude.

    are you a black american?

    bigotry of low expectations much?

    don’t be so stupid

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