Open Forum: January 12, 2019

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  1. bespoke

    calli
    #2906151, posted on January 13, 2019 at 1:51 pm
    Scab eaters become Shop Stewards.

    No they prefer led pencils.

  2. calli

    Where did Phan get all that MDMA?

  3. Top Ender

    Speaking of trying to get grog over boundaries, a few months back I tried to get around the new NT “floor price” laws by bringing in a few cartons of wine from Dan Murphy’s.

    (The new laws dictate a minimum of $1.30 a drink, thus meaning wine on special etc instantly had its price doubled.)

    All went well online, but two days later I got a polite email saying my $ had been refunded. I wrote back arguing it was unconstitutional to hinder trade across state lines, to no avail. Thinking of having another go.

    Incidentally here in Louisiana I bought a bottle of bourbon today for $10US. Perhaps an import business presents itself.

  4. EvilElvis

    Perhaps she is gaming the system.

    The Saudis won’t like being played or being made fools of by western leftist idiots. She’ll have an ‘accident’ within 12 months and then watch the left twist itself into knots defending Islamic immigration, yet condemning the loss of their poster girl.

  5. None

    Deeply tempted to write to the Archibishop about this.

    Holy cow. You should always in the first instance approach him after the service, preferably in front of witnesses, and just tell him honestly that you found that homily inappropriate, unedifying and of no value for your growth in virtue or for the salvation of your soul. It would have been worth it just to see the look on his face. Tell him too that if you knew that you were going to listen to somebody read out the Manifesto from the local chapter of the green left socialist forum you would have stayed home. Not that I think he would care. But seriously, if I were you I’d be writing to the archbishop although Mr N will warn that most bishops have developed moral cowardice into an art form.

  6. None

    Good question, Calli. “Friends.”

  7. struth

    It’s okay, Struth.
    We all have our childish fantasies.

    No argument there.

    I used to have other sort of fantasies once, before government consumed all of life.

    Last night had visitors around For Nanna’s 89th birthday (on Mrs Struth side)
    Lefty family members in attendance.
    I just said to Mrs Struth, it’s bloody hot in here, is the aircon on max?

    Seems lefty had come in last night and turned it to economy.
    I was not at home last night when said lefty turned up.
    Mrs Struth now telling me she was cornered by said lefty who began preaching.

    Now, 12 months ago, said lefty didn’t have a problem with eating meat, but a steady dose of theABC and she seems to be very, let’s say, meat aware, nowadays.

    Honestly the ABC could tell them the world is ending and they’d believe it,………………………….oh

  8. egg_

    WUWT: The Middle East, Africa, and Asia now drive nearly all global energy consumption growth

    Quelle surprise.

  9. miltonf

    Deeply tempted to write to the Archibishop about this.

    When I was a kid the Catholic clergy used to sound off about the evils of abortion. What a hollow institution it has become.

  10. Memoryvault

    Honestly the ABC could tell them the world is ending and they’d believe it,………………….oh

  11. struth

    Deeply tempted to write to the Archibishop about this.

    You should have yelled out “I thought this was a church service, not a political rally, while walking out in the middle of his shit.

  12. egg_

    The Middle East, Africa, and Asia now drive nearly all global energy consumption growth

    Won’t Asia and Oceania think of the sea levels – oh, wait…

  13. Memoryvault

    Let’s try that again.

    Honestly the ABC could tell them the world is ending and they’d believe it . . .

    Why not?
    Most Cats here still believe there is a discernible difference between Liberal and Labor.

  14. None

    When I was a kid the Catholic clergy used to sound off about the evils of abortion.

    Probably won’t mean much today if the average age of your congregation is 75. Take heart – there are some exceptional young Catholic priests down here so there is hope. It’s the over 50 crew that’s a real worry.

  15. bespoke

    I’m a little conflicted (as always) over that one Stimp,s with my naïve opinion that government employees should try to remain neutral.

  16. struth

    Note: You cannot transport alcoholic beverages across a provincial boundary!
    One among many stupid regulations

    Driven to SA or WA recently?

    I must have spent too long on this blog.
    I can tell when memoryvault is niggly and looking for a skirmish.

  17. miltonf

    The Spectator seems to have carried a lot of left wing Liberal Party (Vanstone-Pyne-Payne sort of stuff) articles in the last few weeks. I thought the Melbourne uni liberal club one was a spoof.

  18. Stimpson J. Cat

    I love it when Rand Paul agrees with me.
    Makes me feel like a Real Libertarian, even though I don’t own a Bowtie.

    😎

  19. None

    The counter argument to that Stimpson is that these boycotts go to foreign policy and they therefore fall well within the purview of Congress to regulate. No one’s going to stomp on individuals’ First Amendment right to be an anti-semitic pratt.

  20. Stimpson J. Cat

    And I’m not even a Libertarian!
    How cool is that?

  21. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Destruction by mere accusation by the #metoo extremists continues. I am pretty sure this is a violation of his 1st amendment rights, regardless of what he has been accused of.

    Illinois refuses permit for concert to be hosted by R. Kelly

  22. Memoryvault

    I can tell when memoryvault is niggly and looking for a skirmish.

    Well you read that wrong, Struth. I’m having a ball.
    I will admit however, that it’s all a bit of a distraction.
    Today Mrs MV is worse than ever.

  23. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s OK guys you can disagree with me.
    I don’t believe in restricting your speech.

  24. struth

    Today Mrs MV is worse than ever.

    now she is unwell?

  25. It’s OK guys you can disagree with me.

    Bullcrap.

    I don’t believe in restricting your speech.

    I would argue with you, but fear I may offend.

  26. Memoryvault

    now she is unwell?

    She’s been “unwell” (actually crook as a dog), since Christmas.
    And going downhill big time for the last week.

  27. Dr Fred Lenin

    Heard a story about the roman church in a country town , an unfortunate disturbed young woman with a history of terrible abuse , committed suicide by hanging herself in her carport,she was found initially by her five year old son looking for his breakfast ,the family had a history of suicides .her grandfather and uncle had both committed suicide . She had a large funeral as she came from an extended family , the priest gave a sermon thoroughly condemning suicide , telling of the terrible things that would happen to the deceased in the afterlife , causing great disress tothe family and children present . This priest needs a bit of re education in compassion and tact , you can tell the bishop that instead of preaching green global fascist lies he can teach his staff to behave in a civilised manner .. And they complain congregations are falling off,wonder why?

  28. Stimpson J. Cat

    I would argue with you, but fear I may offend.

    Oh no.
    But I would have to take offence wouldn’t I?

    So why don’t you argue why Rand Paul is wrong and try and change my mind.
    That’s why we are all here isn’t it?
    To learn and change minds?
    Change my mind.

  29. Memoryvault

    That’s why we are all here isn’t it?
    To learn and change minds?

    You need to lay off the weed until after sundown, Stimpy.
    If I can, you can too.

  30. bespoke

    So why don’t you argue why Rand Paul is wrong and try and change my mind.

    Answer None first, Stimps

    Do you believe in the property right of a blogger?

  31. Change my mind.

    Not sure that I have the time just now, my sex robot can be quite demanding.

    How about the idea that what Rand Paul says is irrelevant.
    You and I will soon be governed by far left governments for rest of our lives.
    In future, if we wish to speak freely it will have be at Stimpy underground headquarters.

  32. mh

    Blair Cottrell 🇦🇺
    Blair Cottrell 🇦🇺
    @blaircottrell89
    ·
    3h
    With all the prescription meth they throw at school-age children, all of the ideological brainwashing in education, music & media and all of the shit they put into our food and water too, it must be really frustrating for them that people like us still struggle through.

    And what happened to Australian frogs? We never see them now.

    Gay Frogs (Alex Jones REMIX)

  33. calli

    Nothing says “Champion of the Wokka” like a $1K+ scarf.

    Good luck to her. She worked hard for it.

  34. calli

    The name rang a bell, None. I’m sure the police have made the connection. Silly girl.

  35. Twostix

    Heard a story about the roman church in a country town , an unfortunate disturbed young woman with a history of terrible abuse , committed suicide by hanging herself in her carport,she was found initially by her five year old son looking for his breakfast ,the family had a history of suicides .her grandfather and uncle had both committed suicide . She had a large funeral as she came from an extended family , the priest gave a sermon thoroughly condemning suicide , telling of the terrible things that would happen to the deceased in the afterlife , causing great disress tothe family and children present . This priest needs a bit of re education in compassion and tact , you can tell the bishop that instead of preaching green global fascist lies he can teach his staff to behave in a civilised manner .. And they complain congregations are falling off,wonder why?

    She’s ruined everyones lives and is going to hell.
    Do expect the priest to lie to cover for her crimes you big nancy?

  36. Boambee John

    Memoryvault
    #2906204, posted on January 13, 2019 at 3:16 pm
    now she is unwell?

    She’s been “unwell” (actually crook as a dog), since Christmas.
    And going downhill big time for the last week.

    Best wishes to Mrs MV, and to you also. Make sure that you keep well, otherwise you will not be able to help her.

  37. calli

    the family had a history of suicides

    The truth needs to be spoken in love, and when the hearer is ready for it.

    However, the priest may have been cautioning other family members – copycatting after big, emotional funerals is a “thing”, particularly among the young.

    He may just have saved a life.

  38. calli

    If she’s deteriorating, call the doctor. Don’t stuff around here.

    We’re not that important.

  39. bespoke

    The bill allows a state or local government to adopt measures to divest its assets from entities using boycotts, divestments, or sanctions to influence Israel’s policies. Such measures shall meet various requirements, including those related to written notice and comment.

    Stimps
    Do you think they should keep funding Planned Parenthood?

  40. Memoryvault

    Thanks, John. It is a worry.
    Fortunately we have #1 son, DiL, plus two teenage grandkids, less than 20 metres away.

  41. …. in Canada.
    ……
    Note: You cannot transport alcoholic beverages across a provincial boundary!
    One among many stupid regulations.

    When I lived there the only place you could transport alcohol was by the shortest practical route between the Government Liquor Store and your home address.
    The alcohol had to be where you could not reach it (i.e. in the back of the pickup – or trunk of the car, if practicable) and had to be sealed.
    “Sealed” meant a 24-pack of beer had to be closed & had to contain 24 cans/bottles. Only got 23 in the pack? You’re nicked Sunshine, the coppers would tip the whole lot out in front of you – plus charge you.
    Got an empty stubby rolling around under the seat? “Unsealed liquor” = You’re nicked Sunshine, you get charged.
    The charge was of similar gravity & penalty to drink driving.

    Called at the govt liquor store in the middle of your shopping trip? Instead of last thing? You’re nicked Sunshine – the coppers will destroy all the liquor in front of you, and you’ll be charged.
    Driving home from the next town in the other direction with liquor? Then you’re not driving directly home from the nearest liquor store to your home. You’re nicked Sunshine, the coppers will destroy all the liquor in front of you, and you’ll be charged.

    Driving from your farm to the neighbors with a bottle of rum/wine/whatever, to share over dinner?
    This is not a direct line from the nearest liquor store to your home – You’re nicked Sunshine. The coppers will destroy the liquor in front of you, and you’ll be charged.

    (The RCMP did some some discretion – though if you cheeked them, or they remembered you from a past something you got away with, then the discretion could not be guaranteed)

  42. Boambee John

    Blair Cottrell 🇦🇺
    Blair Cottrell 🇦🇺
    @blaircottrell89
    ·
    3h
    With all the prescription meth they throw at school-age children, all of the ideological brainwashing in education, music & media and all of the shit they put into our food and water too, it must be really frustrating for them that people like us still struggle through.

    The fascist left control school education, universities, much of the bureaucracy, Their ABC, FTA television, most of the print media, yet it took an absolutely useless idiot like Turdbull to ensure the next election for them.

    With what they control, the fascists should have been in government since the turn of the century. Yet the desire for liberty still lives on in close to half of the population, and apparently more strongly in the millenials who were brought up in this atmosphere of left fascism.

  43. None

    Why are Cats so obsessed with Cottrell?

  44. JC

    I don’t believe that law is enforced, Driller. Prove it’s actively applied. Go! That’s not to say their laws aren’t byzantine in some provinces. But your summation is bullshit. This was the place that broke the back of Prohibition across the border.

    You bullshit artist.

  45. Baldrick

    Most Cats here still believe there is a discernible difference between Liberal and Labor.

    Really? I might be going out on a limb here but I think most Cats and Kittehs have more brains than you credit them.

  46. Gab

    Oh yeas, how dare priests mention suicide and God at a funeral. Terrible, just like this terrible homily (she says with tons of sarcasm) that resulted in a priest recently being thrown under the bus by his own insipid and cowardly bishop etc and vilified by the media for days on end.

    Read it and explain to me why this is wrong and terrible. I’m all ears.

  47. mh

    Yet the desire for liberty still lives on in close to half of the population, and apparently more strongly in the millenials who were brought up in this atmosphere of left fascism.

    I like your optimism.

  48. Gab

    Baldrick
    #2906226, posted on January 13, 2019 at 3:56 pm
    Most Cats here still believe there is a discernible difference between Liberal and Labor.

    Really? I might be going out on a limb here but I think most Cats and Kittehs have more brains than you credit them.

    No difference but the Libs are more despicable and cowardly because they have thrown their principles out the window and are aping everything the socialist Labor/ Greens do.

  49. Rae

    She’s been “unwell” (actually crook as a dog), since Christmas.
    And going downhill big time for the last week.

    Sorry to hear that, MV. Is your wife receiving medical care?

  50. Stimpson J. Cat

    The bill allows a state or local government to adopt measures to divest its assets from entities using boycotts, divestments, or sanctions to influence Israel’s policies.

    You do understand “entities” means Americans, and includes American J®ws don’t you?
    Just so we are clear.
    Have you really thought this through?

  51. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-09/supermarket-bans-iconic-free-smiley-fritz-for-children/10703388

    “”I would imagine 99.9 per cent of South Aussies have a childhood memory of getting fritz at a supermarket,” he said.

    “It’s worse than the onion saga at Bunnings.”

    Can’t hand out free pork fritz to kids in diversity Big Australia.

    Comrades.

  52. struth

    bloody illness.
    It’s enough to make you sick.

    Wish Mrs MV all the best from us here at the Cat, and seeing she’s been sick since Christmas, what the hell were you doing jumping her bones early New Year’s morning?
    You might want to give that a rest for awhile…!

  53. JC

    Yep, just as I thought. Those Canadian liquor laws Driller was bullshitting about were imposed to stop inter-provincial and cross border boot-legging in the 20s. They aren’t acted on to thwart present day consumption

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-s-weird-liquor-laws-1.1004724

    Bullshit artist drama queen.

  54. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-24/whats-in-south-australias-iconic-smallgood-delicacy-bung-fritz/8460960

    “”What makes it uniquely South Australian — and it is the only place in the world that does it — is we put it into the sheep appendix,” Mr Knoll said.

    The appendix is known to butchers as a bung, hence the name bung fritz.

    “It gives it the unique look and flavour,” Mr Knoll said.”

  55. cohenite

    Most Cats here still believe there is a discernible difference between Liberal and Labor.

    The liars have better suits; and security.

  56. None

    Gab

    #2906227, posted on January 13, 2019 at 3:58 pm

    As Mr N. would say…

  57. Memoryvault

    Really? I might be going out on a limb here but I think most Cats and Kittehs have more brains than you credit them.

    There’s no lack of brains here, Baldrick.
    Judgement, on the other hand, appears sometimes to be in chronically short supply.

  58. None

    Getting a free slice of bung fritz from the butcher is a South Australian childhood rite of passage.

  59. IR;

    Anybody retching?

    I was eating a late lunch of chicken with the skin on/lettuce/cheese/mayonnaise.
    Now I have a fairly high threshold for nausea, but when I looked at the sanger, I felt distinctly unwell.
    Mind you, I finished the lot except for the crusts.
    I’m an adult and if I don’t feel like eating my scabs, i.e. crusts, then I bloody well won’t.

  60. struth

    Try crossing a state border in Australia with a piece of fruit, a bit of dirt on the equipment you are hauling.
    When crossing into WA all trucks must have a pre filled out and signed freight declaration stating where you are headed to in WA, the time you will arrive, and the colour of your jocks (I’m sure that’s in there somewhere).
    Many times I have been stopped at the fruit fly in Ceduna on entry to SA and waiting for zzzzzzzzzeeee borter guardz to look over my load, watch them laughingly wave the locals and whoever else through, and only get out their seats to head out for an inspection if some lovely young backpackers turned up.
    The new border crossing stazi missions control headquarters, border division at Yamba is a state of the art interrogation facility and I remember crossing provincial borders in Canada.
    There was a sign.
    Welcome to Alberta!

  61. Mindfree

    Note: You cannot transport alcoholic beverages across a provincial boundary!
    One among many stupid regulations

    Sh!t – just confirmed that with SIL who lives in BC

    Note: not admitting to anything when we were there last July/August

  62. Mindfree

    But the vodka was very good

  63. JC

    Struth

    Lets be clear. The Driller was referring to consumers carting booze around- not commercial haulage.. There’s nothing surprising in what you say about carting commercial goods. I have no idea what the state laws are in Australia, but I’d bet there would be all sorts of laws and imposts carting liquor and cigs between the states seeing there are state charges imposed. Not the same thing.

  64. Bullshit artist drama queen.

    You’re just making that up.
    A fat old sadsack sitting in basement in pyjamas belching opinions is not the same as lived experience on the ground.

    Which province did you live in?
    For how long?

  65. JC

    Mindfree

    Are those laws imposed eggactly as the Driller suggested. I bet they aren’t and they are dead letter laws as far as consumers go.

    Commercial haulage and consumer transportation of goods aren’t the same thing.

  66. cohenite

    It was posted upthread but worth doing again; the left are the scum of the Earth; what the mentally ill are being used for by the left in LA, the aboriginals are being used for here by the left:

  67. but I’d bet there would be all sorts of laws and imposts carting liquor and cigs between the states seeing there are state charges imposed.

    Looks like someone didn’t pay much attention to the interstate transport of cigarettes prior to the High Court striking down state excise.
    It’s all about thuh feelz, or the “what I reckon it should be.”

    Yeah.

  68. Snoopy

    I have no idea what the state laws are in Australia, but I’d bet there would be all sorts of laws and imposts carting liquor and cigs between the states seeing there are state charges imposed.

    If you value your sanity avoid the Goondiwindi customs post. Those guys are pure evil.

  69. JC

    You’re just making that up.

    I’m not making anything up, you moron. I challenged you to prove those assertions.

    A fat old sadsack sitting in basement in pyjamas belching opinions is not the same as lived experience on the ground.

    LOl, I’m actually sitting beside the pool on a glorious day.

    Which province did you live in?
    For how long?

    Oh great, now we arrive at the sleight of hand bullshit the Driller tries when he’s fucked. As I said, he has the ethics of a small time crook loser.

    Prove your fucking assertion, dipshit or go pour drinks. Now!

  70. I’m not making anything up,

    Actually you are.

  71. Memoryvault

    I have no idea what the state laws are in Australia, but I’d bet there would be all sorts of laws and imposts carting liquor and cigs between the states seeing there are state charges imposed.

    Says it all, really.

  72. JC

    Drills

    Socrates at the Pub
    #2906250, posted on January 13, 2019 at 4:34 pm

    but I’d bet there would be all sorts of laws and imposts carting liquor and cigs between the states seeing there are state charges imposed.

    Looks like someone didn’t pay much attention to the interstate transport of cigarettes prior to the High Court striking down state excise.
    It’s all about thuh feelz, or the “what I reckon it should be.”

    Yeah.

    Stop stalling and prove those assertions. Enough of these small time pick pocket digressions. Easy enough. Go!

  73. Top Ender

    I wonder what happens if I get my mate in Sydney to put 12 bottles of wine in a box and send it to me in the Top End…

  74. JC

    Oh look, the “suitor’s” coming in with his chin out.

  75. Mindfree

    But it’s not enforced – how could they anyway – There’s no checkpoints between provinces

  76. Confused Old Misfit

    Nic off JC!
    Here’s a case that went all the way to the SCC.
    There are many others that don’t because the fines get paid and no one wants or can afford the hassle.
    Socrates is right.
    You, JC, are WRONG!
    Outside of Quebec you buy booze ONLY at a government store.
    There are NO bottlo’s.
    I’ve lived there.
    Recently.

  77. Okay, so fat pyjamas boy in basement didn’t even know Australia had differing state excises, and doesn’t even know about the High Court decision which ended them.

    But he’s objecting to someone posting an anecdote about their life in Canada.

    Handy to know.

  78. JC

    Top Ender
    #2906256, posted on January 13, 2019 at 4:39 pm

    I wonder what happens if I get my mate in Sydney to put 12 bottles of wine in a box and send it to me in the Top End…

    Nothing doofus. It’s exactly the same thing that occurred when I actually sent a bunch of unopened liquor bottles to a nice older pensioner dude who infrequently posts here. Wivenhoe? Cleaning out my folks home I found years old unopened bottles of various hard liquor, he put his hand up and I sent it all to him by Fedex or Australia post. He thanked me, so presumably he got the package.

  79. struth

    Lets be clear. The Driller was referring to consumers carting booze around- not commercial haulage.. There’s nothing surprising in what you say about carting commercial goods. I have no idea what the state laws are in Australia, but I’d bet there would be all sorts of laws and imposts carting liquor and cigs between the states seeing there are state charges imposed. Not the same thing.

    Only a part of my statement above was in regard to commercial regulations.

    Let’s be clear.
    People are being harassed at state border crossings that are not commercial transport.

    At the fruit flies the trucks are actually harassed less.
    ZZZe Borter Gardz are not allowed to climb up into trucks due to [email protected] issues.
    So they’d have people pulling all their gear out of their cars in search of contraband is if they had a warrant to wreck nyour house.

    ZE Modern state of ze artz interrogation facility in Yamba SA has a walking gantry so that ZE Borter Gardz can look into your truck cab without climbing up into it.

    The point I make JC, is the paperwork for the commercial freight could be sent and does not require physically stopping and harassing trucks at the border.
    Infinitely changing regulations and a “once off” trip by a driver who may have never gone into WA before, can end in disaster at the actual border.
    I went across there once and had run out of the declaration sheets.
    No worries, I thought, I’ll get one at ze borter Guardz interrogation centre at the border and just fill it out there.
    Nope they decided that week they weren’t handing out the forms anymore.
    Shit like this is precisely the reason we are going down the shit tubes, and the often quite long , in depth inspections and invasion of privacy, making them take all their shit out of their cars, much of it all over the road, enacted on non commercial travellers far exceeds what is often done to international travellers.
    Compared to the way ZE State Borter Guardz carry on in Australia, I have gone to Numerous countries easier.

  80. Mindfree

    Just scrolled up now JC – it’s a crazy old law set early (1928 due to the prohibition era) according to SIL that was never repealed

  81. Confused Old Misfit

    There’s no checkpoints between provinces

    There are random checks. And yes “smuggling” does go on.
    If you live 50K away from a government store you will easily be able to find out who the local bootlegger is.
    His prices will be competitive and the bottle will likely have an out of province excise stamp on it.
    If it has one at all 😉

  82. JC

    Misfit

    Stick to posting slabs upon slabs of articles you purloin for here. That case is about inter-province movement. That’s not what the Driller asserted at all.

  83. areff

    I wonder what happens if I get my mate in Sydney to put 12 bottles of wine in a box and send it to me in the Top End…

    Australia Post will break ’em.

  84. Memoryvault

    doesn’t even know about the High Court decision which ended them.

    Mostly replaced with the introduction of GST in 2000.
    By Howard.

  85. JC

    Socrates at the Pub
    #2906261, posted on January 13, 2019 at 4:41 pm

    Okay, so fat pyjamas boy in basement didn’t even know Australia had differing state excises, and doesn’t even know about the High Court decision which ended them.

    But he’s objecting to someone posting an anecdote about their life in Canada.

    Handy to know.

    And the usual digression by this redneck canute begins… exactly like a loser pickpocket Unable to prove his assertion, the diversion begins.

    We’re still waiting for the proof, dickhead. Go.

  86. Mindfree

    No doubt smuggling goes on but SIL advises that the variable tax rates between provinces that operate government store is the reason why it still exists

  87. Confused Old Misfit

    JC you know crap all about Canadian Liquor laws and on this you’re just plain pig headed wrong.

  88. Mindfree

    Again – not enforced unless there is a big operation at hand known to authorities
    Taking a (1) bottle of vodka is of no consequence – it would probably get picked up at the airport anyway

  89. JC

    Mindfree
    #2906264, posted on January 13, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    Just scrolled up now JC – it’s a crazy old law set early (1928 due to the prohibition era) according to SIL that was never repealed

    It appears they have byzantine laws, just as I said at the outset. But here’s the point I’m making. The Driller claimed there are Canadian laws that will cause you to be prosecuted if you don’t drive the shortest distance from the liquor store to home. That’s what I called bullshit on and that’s what the unethical, dishonest canute is avoiding.

  90. JC

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2906271, posted on January 13, 2019 at 4:50 pm

    JC you know crap all about Canadian Liquor laws and on this you’re just plain pig headed wrong.

    True, but that’s not what the argument is about. Keep up.

  91. Confused Old Misfit

    that the variable tax rates between provinces that operate government store(s)

    That is so true.
    In the east, where Quebec allows liquor sales in grocery stores most of the inter-provincial “illegal” traffic is between New Brunswick and Quebec and Ontario and Quebec.
    Two years ago, Qubec’s tax was substantially lower than either of those two.

  92. Bloody ‘ell.
    The Lout and his ad homs is here.
    I’m going for a beer – see you tomorrow.

  93. cohenite

    What are your views on islam head prefect.

  94. miltonf

    Good comment in Breitbart re Macaroon and the Stasi B*tch and their Euro army which seems to to be going to become a reality.

    The big question and greatest concern is, what is the purpose of an EU (Franco-German) army, which only two and a half years ago was heralded as a dangerous fantasy, but now proclaimed as a necessity to combat the threat of Russia, China, and last but not least, the United States?

    Well, two and a half years ago, the politicians clearly lied. Nothing new there. But is Macron, (and the quite obvious German power behind him), seriously suggesting that he considers the United States, who have spent the last seventy years protecting Western Europe with great expense of treasure, not least of which was the Marshall plan, are now considered to be a hostile foreign power?

    I think not. Do the people of western Europe feel threatened by the United States, or for that matter Russia? Have they ever been asked? So, given the duplicity of EU politicians, and the unrestrained power of bureaucracy, what is it’s true purpose?

    It is now quite obvious that the previously silent majorities across Europe are far from happy with globalist policies, continually inflicted on them by a less and less accountable bureaucracy, assuming without consent the mantle of statehood, -German led of course. So is this new EU army for external border protection, or an internal security arm, to protect the interests of leaders who, with democracy breaking out across Europe, clearly no longer have a popular mandate?

    What of this army? The disparate organisational logistical, and linguistic military variations across western Europe, were largely brought to some form of loose cohesion by NATO, though the varied political and commercial interests have rendered them far from efficient, the Franco-German elements certainly have training systems in place, regardless of the mental and physical fighting calibre of those currently serving. Would they mindlessly turn their guns on their own people on the orders of bureaucrats in Brussels? I think not.

    The last four years has seen an unprecedented influx of physically fit third world men of military age, forced onto Western Europe, all unemployable in any meaningful productive occupation of benefit to the western economies. Military basic infantry training takes of the order of twenty-six weeks. So what if the extant military training establishments are now focused on recruiting en masse, the otherwise useless elements of foreign economic migration, while reducing the intake of European Millennium ‘$nowlakes?’ Whistle blowers within the German police, have already exposed the detrimental effect such recruitment has had on them.

    So what would happen when Merkel and Macron arm such a force, rapidly comprising mostly of foreign elements, who come to dominate the sharp end fighting elements of such an army? Would they have any compunction against turning their guns on the people of Europe, paid by, and under the orders of Brussels (Berlin) bureaucrats? I think not.

    Though given the demographic and ‘religious’ nature of Merkel’s ‘guests,’ have these politicians and bureaucrats in literally all of their wisdom, considered what happens, when the foreign army have subdued or driven out the people of Europe, and realise that they don’t need to wait for pay decided by Brussels (Berlin) bureaucrats, and can turn their guns on their mentors, take, and do what they want?

    Well Merkel has her ranch in Paraguay. Have the others made arrangements to skedaddle when I$lam comes calling?

  95. Confused Old Misfit

    Driller claimed there are Canadian laws that will cause you to be prosecuted if you don’t drive the shortest distance from the liquor store to home.

    And Socrates is correct.
    That law may not apply in all provinces but I have lived in one recently where it was still on the books.
    Honoured more in the breach than the observance.

  96. Memoryvault

    JC you know crap all about Canadian Liquor laws and on this you’re just plain pig headed wrong.

    But Misfit, you have to grant that he is a full bottle on State liquor laws here in Oz.
    Especially on the different taxes and costs imposed from State to State.

  97. JC

    Misfit

    You totally fucked up by diverting the discussion to something it was never about…. competing inter-provincial liquor laws.
    As for me not knowing anything about Canadian liquor laws. It appears no one else – including Canadians- does either.

    Please stay on the side lines and remain silent.

  98. claimed there are Canadian laws that will cause you to be prosecuted if you don’t drive the shortest distance from the liquor store to home.

    For all I know the laws on line of transport still exist. Much was changed with the 1996 change to the Alberta Liquor & Cannabis Act. Ralph Klein wanted to change the direct-and-immediate-line-of-transport rules when he introduced privately owned liquor stores. (Competition not possible if the punter cannot choose where to buy)

    However the rules on sealed & reachable liquor are still in force, and still enforced.
    And contacts on the border with Sask. inform that yes, the RCMP are being complete dickheads about enforcement of transport rules, putting the heavies at random on guy in pickups & moms in sedans.

    You’re wrong, dickhead.
    As usual.

  99. Confused Old Misfit

    you have to grant that he is a full bottle

    Really ? …. Do I have to?
    No! …. Bugger it!
    Well, all right then.
    He knows everything about everything anyway.
    Don’t know why we don’t just make him King of The World.

  100. struth

    Most of us have been to Canada.
    Yes, they are a bit special when it comes to grog.
    They’re quite sober nice people generally.
    As a wise man once said, you can’t say c..nt in Canada.
    They are not the intense pisspots Australians are, but besides all that.
    Let’s not get stuck on the one example.
    This all started because I said I’d rather live in Canada, and by god I would.

    It’s also true that some people , maybe confused old Misfit is one of them, got out more and had more to do with the country he was visiting than his own, where he may barely ever leave their own areas.
    Many Aussies are like that.
    They know more about overseas countries than their own.

    But so far, as the truth is coming out, they don’t even have zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Border gardz interrogation zentres at the provincial borders.
    They however do have better roads, better vehicles, a more civilised culture, a more western type culture that appeals to me, beautiful countryside , and most importantly, the ability to cross over to the states at any time.
    Also, they’re at a turning point and that’s why one province is now fighting back, hard.

    So again, if you really want to talk a regulated over governed shit hole, I think you be quite the fool to not at least admit that we are way more over governed and harassed.
    I’ve done Canada coast to coast and I’d pick it, big mozzies and all over this shithole.

  101. Confused Old Misfit

    JC, F*CK OFF!
    That’s as polite as I’m prepared to be.

  102. Zyconoclast

    In what sane country is this a positive comment.

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/not-in-the-bernie-sanders-mould-julian-castro-joins-democratic-field-of-presidential-candidates-20190113-p50r3g.html

    Castro, 44, brings diversity and a shot of youthful charisma to the nascent Democratic contest; he’s been called a Latino Barack Obama.

  103. JC

    For all I know the laws on line of transport still exist.

    Oh okay, It’s morphed into

    for all I know.

    That’s about as close as you get to an admission the unethical small time crook is done.
    Winning and then winning some more. Trump was right, it really does get boring after a while.

  104. Leigh Lowe

    Is there a tax on creamy soda?
    And is it “creamy soda” or “creaming soda”?
    Does it mean something different in the LGBTI community?
    So many questions but, for some unknown reason, I have a yearning for creamy/creaming soda.

  105. There’s some interesting reading, which would be of interest to most Cats (in a detached/abstract) about the 1996 reforms to the Alberta Liquor Act, and how it panned out in practice.
    Simon Fraser University trotted out a while back one of the better reports on how it affected the wages for individual liquor store workers, total number of workers, gross receipts for the provincial govt.
    And there’s some anecdotes-that-tell-a-bigger-story in the Calgary & Edmonton papers, about how some of the liquor store staff fared after privatisation.

    Almost a textbook study of Soviet style controls turned into a free market overnight.
    Economics professors, & business lecturers should use it as a case study.

    Can’t get a better sample size than upending an industry covering 5 million people & 250,000 sq miles.

  106. JC

    Memoryvault
    #2906280, posted on January 13, 2019 at 4:59 pm

    JC you know crap all about Canadian Liquor laws and on this you’re just plain pig headed wrong.

    But Misfit, you have to grant that he is a full bottle on State liquor laws here in Oz.
    Especially on the different taxes and costs imposed from State to State.

    He’s telling his wife is very ill and sounding like she won’t be for this world much longer, but here is stoushing at the Cat. The “News letterer” carnival barker.

  107. Pedro the Ignorant

    Dunno about Canadian provinces, but sly groggers in WA make a fortune selling cheap cask goon to aboriginal “dry” communities.

    There is a well known sly grogger in the Kimberley who will deliver a cargo of cheap plonk to a given GPS coordinate by helicopter. Midnight runs across country in 4WD trucks are common, I have even seen a Shire Council grader with a fake extra fuel tank fitted for smuggling grog into town.

    A 4 litre cask can fetch upwards of $200 in some of the communities, the residents don’t care what it costs, plenty of that free money about, or you can humbug the missus or neighbours if you are short this week.

  108. Once again fatboy makes a fool of himself by skimming, instead of reading, my initial post.
    Stupid dickhead.

    He’d be a sucker for a slimily written prospectus.

    How’s that recommendation on Australian Agricultural Company working out, dickhead?

  109. Confused Old Misfit

    Struth,
    I lived and worked in Canada for 25 years.
    From the east to the west coasts and several points in between.
    I got jack of winter and emigrated to Australia back in ’81.
    I wish I had done it 20 years earlier when I had an opportunity to do so.
    I went back to Canada in ’07. Had had enough by ’16 and come back.
    I think I gave that country a fair shake.
    They cut my CPP and OAS back by almost half for being a non-resident.
    Despite my coasting them less by being out of their system.
    You won’t like their health system either.
    Good luck finding a doctor unless you live in a major city.

  110. Memoryvault

    So again, if you really want to talk a regulated over governed shit hole,

    As I have explained before, I now have about half a million Chinese in-laws.
    Back when we lived on Bribie, a lot of them came and stayed with us, while on holiday.
    They all loved the place – to visit. They wouldn’t dream of actually living here.

    Way too much nanny state regulation.

  111. They all loved the place – to visit. They wouldn’t dream of actually living here.

    Has there been a change in that attitude since Xi started “disappearing” or jailing people pretty much at random?

  112. Confused Old Misfit

    Socrates,
    I’ve not been to Alberta for over 30 years.
    Do they still put salt in their beers?

  113. As a wise man once said, you can’t say c..nt in Canada.

    Did not hear the word, even once, the whole time I was there.
    Heard the “F” word only once – and that was when giving a character reference for a bank.
    Er…. the “F” word, if made into a composite word with the word “mother”, was heard near daily, but a bad word.
    “Corksuckerrrr”, and “Sunnuvabich” especially, were herd multiple times per hour.

  114. Zyconoclast

    Waste crisis looms as thousands of solar panels reach end of life

    Thousands of ageing rooftop solar panels represent a toxic time-bomb and major economic waste unless Australia acts swiftly to keep them out of landfill, conservationists and recyclers say.

    Australia’s enthusiastic embrace of rooftop solar has brought clear environmental and economic benefits, but critics say governments have dragged their feet in addressing the looming waste crisis.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/waste-crisis-looms-as-thousands-of-solar-panels-reach-end-of-life-20190112-p50qzd.html

  115. cohenite

    C’mon head prefect, your views on islam which is very pertinent what with you being the connoisseur of liquor and since muzzies don’t drink this should be right up your alley.

  116. JC

    The slimey boofhead continues digressing from the original argument.

    Here’s the part of his comment I protested.

    When I lived there the only place you could transport alcohol was by the shortest practical route between the Government Liquor Store and your home address.

    I called bullshit on this that it wouldn’t be enforced in the present day and he’s still lying and diverting like a small time pick pocket loser. Doesn’t work, Driller. Now go pour drinks.

  117. I’ve not been to Alberta for over 30 years.
    Do they still put salt in their beers?

    Never saw that.
    Then again, their beer was so warm (to my taste) that it was near unpalatable without a good chaw going on simultaneously.

  118. bespoke

    struth, So no more online manifestos?

  119. JC

    Cronkite

    It looks awful for you turning into my needy little bitch always wanting my attention. You know what you have to do.

  120. I called bullshit on this that it wouldn’t be enforced in the present day and he’s still lying and diverting like a small time pick pocket loser.

    Do you never tire of reminding us of what a wrongheaded fool you are?

    Piss off, this blog is not about your bi-polar induced proclivities.

  121. struth

    A 4 litre cask can fetch upwards of $200 in some of the communities, the residents don’t care what it costs, plenty of that free money about, or you can humbug the missus or neighbours if you are short this week.

    Last season a bottle of Jacks went for 500 bucks in Maningrida when I was there.
    Maningrida isn’t even a completely dry town and has days (can you believe it) like after the barge comes, when they can drink!
    Apparently binge drinking is nothing to worry about.
    You have to show your licence to buy grog in the NT (not just abo communities)and once had to declare where you were going to drink it.
    certain alcohol is banned, and certain times of the day different alcohol sales are banned.
    Do they have RBT in Canada, Misfit?

    I believe they can still ride a pushbike without a helmet!!!!
    Ye gods.

    Maningrida

  122. Snoopy

    Thousands of ageing rooftop solar panels represent a toxic time-bomb and major economic waste unless Australia acts swiftly to keep them out of landfill, conservationists and recyclers say.

    Can they be archived on Bob Brown’s rural retreat?

  123. cohenite

    C’mon head prefect enlighten us; what do you drink with your muslim business partners.

    We’re all agog.

  124. Do they have RBT in Canada, Misfit?

    Just introduced it. In December or thereabouts.
    Causing a touch of consternation that the coppers can just demand a breath test at random.

  125. JC

    Do you never tire of reminding us of what a wrongheaded fool you are?

    Piss off, this blog is not about your bi-polar induced proclivities.

    More digression and this time he’s taking ownership of the Cat. Imagine that. It wouldn’t be nearly as successful as this one.

  126. Confused Old Misfit

    Struth,
    They’ve had RBT in Nova Scotia for several years now. I forget when it came in but they had it in ’07 when we went back. PEI and Ontario have it as well.
    Socrates,
    I will confess that the last time I was in pub in Calgary was in ’57. There were salt shakers on every table. And everyone salted CPA. Never could see why. Maybe it was just a “thing” for a while.

  127. struth

    yes Misfit, but we are doing comparisons.
    It sounds to me like you know about Canada, but how much do you know about this country, really?

    It’s not just about their anal grog laws.
    we have just as anal here in some areas, ……………………….and more so in some areas.
    It’s about comparing the two countries, and it seems to me you may know more about Canada than this shit hole.
    And for the record, you may have got sick of the cold, but I have spent the majority of my life working and living in Northern Australia and I’ve had heat up to my eyebrows.
    I’m over it, and have been for a long time.
    Humidity is for hippies.
    It would take me a good ten years before I got sick of the cold, and I’d be driving interstate and down into the states most likely anyway.
    You’re not landlocked to stay in the cold, and you can get to warm when ever you want.

  128. cohenite

    Alright head prefect, you’re avoiding the issue so I’ll hazard a guess. In my many sojourns in muzzie shit holes apart from the black market in liquor it appears that date wine is not haram. Is that what you drink when you’re socialising with the sheiks.

  129. JC

    Why would any of you people live in Canada? It’s an iceberg.

  130. Rae

    I wonder what happens if I get my mate in Sydney to put 12 bottles of wine in a box and send it to me in the Top End…

    Australia Post will break ’em.

    Australia Post will insist on him buying a Styrofoam padded box and charge him about $75 for the box and the postage.

  131. struth

    Good luck finding a doctor unless you live in a major city.

    Comparisons.

    In Alice Springs, specialists would fly in to treat only the blacks.
    Try being white and seeing any doctor in the bush.

  132. JC

    Australia Post will insist on him buying a Styrofoam padded box and charge him about $75 for the box and the postage.

    Not exactly, Gools. From memory, it just needs to be very well padded and heavy duty cardboard.

  133. struth

    Why would any of you people live in Canada? It’s an iceberg.

    Stop talking like that or you’ll give me a chubby.

  134. Memoryvault

    I will confess that the last time I was in pub in Calgary was in ’57.

    All things change, Misfit.
    I remember when you had to be wary of twigs in your South Australian beer. I forget what it was called, but it tasted terrible. A spoonful of salt chaser probably would have been welcome.

  135. struth

    Only just brought in RBT.
    Can ride a pushbike without a helmet.

    faster speed limits, better vehicles , better roads, and roads that GO TO THE USA.

  136. JC

    Stop talking like that or you’ll give me a chubby.

    Montreal had/has some really decent Frog restaurants. In fact I’d argue they’d rival New York. Toronto is a freezing shit hold. I was waiting for a cab once and the liquid in my eyes felt like they were freezing over. Only went there on client meetups, so it was never fun, but I wasn’t rocked by the place.

  137. Most Cats here still believe there is a discernible difference between Liberal and Labor

    Yes. The Libs have blue on their campaign literature.

  138. Memoryvault

    Australia Post will insist on him buying a Styrofoam padded box and charge him about $75 for the box and the postage.

    Don’t forget to pay the state taxes and charges.

  139. Eyrie

    “In Alice Springs, specialists would fly in to treat only the blacks.
    Try being white and seeing any doctor in the bush.”
    Why you don’t donate the The Flying Doctor.

  140. Confused Old Misfit

    how much do you know about this country, really?

    Well, I’ve worked all over except WA, TAS, & the territory.
    Cairns, Townsville, Gladstone, Wagga, Canberra (10days), Melbourne & Adelaide.
    Managed to avoid Sydney.
    Can’t say I know as much as everyone but I do know more than some.
    And yes, if you’re Jack of the heat Canada is the place for you.
    You’d fit in quite nicely in the Alberta I remember. But as someone mentioned above. Things do change.
    The point about the medical system (it’s provincially operated) is that there is no option to get private treatment as there is here (at least in SA). You’ll get only what the government service is willing to supply in the location you’re in. In this respect it is much like rural Australia. But even less choice.

  141. struth

    struth, So no more online manifestos?</blockquote

    I'd use up my pixel allowance

  142. Mother Lode

    Got up this morning and started watching ‘Archer’.

    It is brilliant!

    Archer: (Everything was fine) until you blew it.
    Lana: I blew Jack Shit.
    Archer: Name dropper.

    I had to pause while I laughed that one off.

  143. struth

    Why you don’t donate the The Flying Doctor.

    the AATS’

    The Aboriginal Air Taxi Service.

    too true, but It saved my dad’s life once, and unfortunately, he’s not black.

  144. struth

    Montreal had/has some really decent Frog restaurants. In fact I’d argue they’d rival New York. Toronto is a freezing shit hold. I was waiting for a cab once and the liquid in my eyes felt like they were freezing over. Only went there on client meetups, so it was never fun, but I wasn’t rocked by the place.

    Toronto is nothing special.
    That is for sure, but as Misfit said, I’d be around Calgary, I reckon.

  145. Confused Old Misfit

    Struth,
    Calgary, Edmonton or Grand Prairie for you lad.

  146. John Constantine

    Every fanatic in every Australian State and council looks at the new Northern Territory prohibition of poor people drinking laws, and begins to push for equal laws for booze Australia wide.

    Except for Canberra.

    Once cash is banned, rationing booze to the right sort can begin.

    (Although Alice Springs being the world capital for broken jaws is not a good thing.)

  147. The point about the medical system (it’s provincially operated) is that there is no option to get private treatment

    The wooden-headed Canucks stick to that one harder than the poms swear by the NHS.

    The Feds talked of allowing a private health system.
    Their CBC (& all TV/press) always phrased this as:
    “The government wants to change the health system so rich Canadians can buy their way to the front of the treatment queue – would you support such a system?”
    The answer in every living room or leaning-on-the-side-of-the-pickup discussion I was in, was always a resounding “No

    After the dust settled I’d always say: “You already have such a system”
    Stunned silence, then “Huh? – no we don’t, the health system is fair & equal to all Canadians”
    Me: “You do have such a system, and rich Canadians are already using it. It is called the United States.
    Most of the doctors you guys go south to see are Canadians. What the Ottawa govt is wanting to do is keep that money in Canada, and to have the Canadian doctors paying tax in Canada, & Canadians holding down all the hospital jobs, y’know, sweeping floors, keeping the boiler room going, & so on”

    Pause for reflection……. then: “Nah, they’d always find a way to make poor people wait & die”
    The smarter Canucks wouldn’t say anything after that, they’re outnumbered by the fools who couldn’t see.

  148. JC

    Wow, now this is a gutsy play in this day and age.

    Brazil says it recognizes Venezuelan opposition leader as president
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    SAO PAULO, Jan 12 (Reuters) – Brazil’s government on Saturday issued a statement saying it recognized Venezuela’s Congressional leader, who opposes President Nicolas Maduro, as the rightful president of Venezuela.

    Maduro, who started a second term as president this week, has found himself increasingly isolated as countries around the world have called his continued leadership illegitimate.

  149. Chris

    Lizzie’s Alfoor article is top billing at Quadrant online just now.
    Giving it a thorough re-read, I missed a lot first time.

  150. Memoryvault

    The Aboriginal Air Taxi Service.

    Don’t knock the RFDS.
    I’d be dead now if it wasn’t for them.
    And that’s no reflection on the doctors at the Port Hedland regional hospital.
    They spent all night stabilising me in preparation for my flight to Perth.
    But there’s only so much that can be done in a country hospital.
    The RFDS then got me down to Perth.
    They lost me twice, but then revived me.

  151. Never went into a pub in Calgary, C.o.M.
    When I visited Australia after my first stint in Canada, I overnighted with a family friend in Sydney, she asked brightly, “Which cities did you visit in Canada?”
    I truthfully answered: “None” (if you don’t count changing planes at port of entry departure)
    She didn’t understand and was unable to process this answer.

  152. struth

    It’s another world on the other side of the hills we call the great dividing range.
    Old Misfit.
    NT would be an eye opener for you, but hey, I wouldn’t waste your time.
    When people ask me what the best thing about Australia is these days, I say it’s only a short flight to the South Island of N Zud from there.
    This place has been a major disappointment, as full of ignorant wankers as it is full of flies.
    Truly the dumbest most crass people in the English speaking world.
    (and I’m not posh) and women who are truly ugly from the inside, from their core.

    I’m trying to be positive about something, anything to do with this socialist skid mark of a country, but alas, I can see not one thing.
    I should never have gone to the USA.
    there is so much truth in the saying ignorance is bliss.

    I’d actually appreciate someone telling me about something good this country offers that you can’t get elsewhere.

  153. Black Ball

    Struth I haven’t been to the Territory. Does things like dry towns and cashless welfare cards have the desired effect in curbing alcoholism and lawlessness? From what I read here and from others who have been up north, I come to the conclusion that it hasn’t.

  154. Snoopy

    The RFDS still does great emergency work but it has moved into the community health sphere to maximise government funding. Consequently it now has squadrons of do good idiots posted around the country.

  155. Steve trickler.

    This looks to be an annual event. And a damn fine one.



  156. Chris

    I’d actually appreciate someone telling me about something good this country offers that you can’t get elsewhere.

    Access to my kids’ grandparents.
    Try being an Aussie expat in Harare and tell me Australia doesn’t have anything to offer.

  157. I’d actually appreciate someone telling me about something good this country offers that you can’t get elsewhere.

    Huh? There’s plenty good about Australia, how long have you got for me to tell you?
    Oh, you’re asking as a taxpayer, who works for a living?…. …….. ….. Mmmmm… not sure I can help you.

  158. JC

    I LOL’ed at this . Conrad Black is great.

    From the piece.

    The problem with the European Union is both practical and theoretical. As a practical matter, it is governed by a bureaucracy of Dutch and Belgian scribes and functionaries that is answerable neither to the ludicrous European Parliament in Strasbourg, the ultimate irrelevant talking shop, nor to the principal member states, and is exacting its revenge for centuries of deference to France, Germany and Britain.

    The Germans don’t mind the shower of authoritarian directives from Brussels — they are accustomed to regimentation and are the leading power in Europe anyway. The French and Italians don’t mind, because they never pay any attention to what governments say and generally regard government as a bunch of crooks and incompetents and hypocrites anyway (often correctly). The British, however, do like to be law-abiding, and generally do pay some attention to the legislation and edicts of those who rule, and rightly judge Brussels to be insufferable and stifling. The underlying theory of Europe was that a century after the hecatomb of the First World War that engulfed Europe, and many decades after the Europeans gave us the blessings of totalitarian Communism and Naziism, the European powers, from Poland to Iberia and the North Cape to Cyprus, would stand on each other’s heads and regain their status as the centre of the world. The whole idea was unutterable nonsense, and the structure is now crumbling.

  159. Chris

    Greetings Black Ball. Are you an old-timer here?

  160. struth

    Struth I haven’t been to the Territory. Does things like dry towns and cashless welfare cards have the desired effect in curbing alcoholism and lawlessness? From what I read here and from others who have been up north, I come to the conclusion that it hasn’t.

    Dry towns are as you would expect, a fairy tale, and if rigidly enforced makes people move elsewhere, that is all.

    I was all for the welfare card and it would have worked well but the outrage by the left wing aboriginal industry was such it didn’t last long.

    See welfare recipients see their dole payment as “their money” and their socialist advocates actually call it pay.

    They called the card racist, and you may be surprised to hear me say t5his, but it was.
    I see no reason to distinguish by race, and there is no reason to not apply the same to all welfare recipients, something they should do.
    Actually just doing that to black fellas was racist.
    But most of these schemes come from some brainfart of a women’s council, or self appointed community leaders, so in a way, it was self activated racism.
    The problem then always goes back to this.
    A government must be blind to race.
    as soon as it isn’t , it’s a mess.

  161. Memoryvault

    I’d actually appreciate someone telling me about something good this country offers that you can’t get elsewhere.

    All joking aside, Struth, you’d probably enjoy China.
    Mrs MV loves the place.
    It sounds much like Carpe speaks of Japan.

  162. Steve trickler.

    It’s a prank call, yet i back the truckie 100% with his demeanor / demeanour…if the call was legit.

    Great stuff.



  163. struth

    I’d actually appreciate someone telling me about something good this country offers that you can’t get elsewhere.

    Please, someone, anyone??!!!
    China!
    So far it’s vegemite, or go east young man.!!!!

  164. cohenite

    Islam and the left are stuffing the West:

    The betrayal of Charlie Hebdo

    Elan Journo Spiked Online 7th January 2019

    Four years after the massacre, the West continues to lose faith in freedom. Four years ago today, self-styled jihadists burst into the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo and shot to death 10 members of the magazine’s staff and also a police officer and security guard.

    Immediately after the massacre, countless people took to the streets to remember the fallen journalists. Globally, on social media, many echoed the slogan ‘Je Suis Charlie’ in solidarity.

    But when the moment faded, it became clear that the threat to freedom of speech emanates not only, or even primarily, from the ‘jihadists’ veto’. The deeper problem is us. There’s pervasive antipathy to the principle of freedom of speech. Unless we understand and value it, we will lose this crucial right.

    Ever since the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo massacre, it has become clear that free speech is under threat from the mainstream intelligentsia as well as violent Islamists.

    First, there was the backlash against Charlie Hebdo itself. While many expressed solidarity, others took issue with the magazine’s frequent satirising of Islam and depiction of the Prophet Muhammad.

    Free speech is the right to express one’s ideas without fear of retribution, even if others disagree with you – even if they are repulsed. This right leaves people free to dissent and free to persuade others of their ideas. No political, religious or ideological viewpoint should be allowed a special exception from challenge, criticism or ridicule.

    But once the moment of ‘Je Suis Charlie’ faded, prominent voices effectively began to blame Charlie Hebdo for the attack….

    https://www.facebook.com/dallas.beaufort/posts/10156193083359370

  165. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    WA workers urged to start meeting with welcome to country
    Trevor PaddenburgPerthNow
    January 13, 2019 2:21PM
    Topics
    WA News

    Workers are being urged to start internal meetings and staff gatherings with an “acknowledgement of country” in a show of respect to traditional owners.

    Welcome to country ceremonies performed by Aboriginal elders are already common at major events and occasions. But now non-Aboriginal workers in government departments, agencies and associations are being encouraged to say an acknowledgement of country.

    It’s been billed as a way to combat the history of dispossession of indigenous Australians and “end the exclusion that has been so damaging”.

    But even Reconciliation Australia admits the need for guidelines on when an acknowledgement should be said, such as if it applies to major staff meetings or if it should be said even if several co-workers meet to discuss an issue.

    The recommendations are contained in Reconciliation Action Plans which must now be produced by government departments and agencies. Examples include the Children and Young People Commissioner’s latest RAP, which recommends: “Include an acknowledgement of country at the commencement of all important internal and external meetings” and “encourage staff to include an acknowledgement of country at the commencement of all meetings”.

    The WA Association for Mental Health urges staff to say an acknowledgement of country, where “appropriate”, at board and staff meetings, small training or information sessions, and other small events.

    It gives examples such as: “We would like to acknowledge that this meeting is being held on Aboriginal land and recognise the strength, resilience and capacity of Noongar people in this land”, and, “We wish to acknowledge and respect their continuing culture and the contribution they make to the life of this city and this region”.

    You couldn’t make this shit up, seriously

  166. Roger

    I’d actually appreciate someone telling me about something good this country offers that you can’t get elsewhere.

    Welfare when you’ve never contributed via the tax system.

    Even chancers in Iran know that.

  167. I’m with Struth. Canada is a lovely place. Even though for 4 months of the year you’re able to ride a pushbike without wearing a helmet.
    I suspect Struth & I are seeing Canada through rose-coloured glasses.
    There’s a lot of things not to like about the place.
    Some good things: Small arena rodeos, cheap fuel, farmers can make a quid & have a higher standard of living than in Australia. Simple IR laws. Groovy new scenery. Proximity to the states. Good roads. The police wear smart red coats on important ceremonial occasions.
    Bad things: Freezing climate, those mother-f-ing horns on saddles, swinging fender saddles (though they’re making inroads here), cold weather, lack of large ranches to spread yourself out on, incestuous & small-minded municipal authorities far worse than our councils, freezing weather, a gay Cuban for PM, all new terminology to learn, bluddee cold for 300 days of the year.

  168. struth

    There are quite a few places in Australia where the Jake is necessary amongst houses.
    Coming down Greenmount into Perth for example.

    however there are some young cock heads driving trucks now that don’t give a flying f…k when and where they let it rip.

    If we had a bloody freeway system instead of main interstates as goat tracks weaving through towns, much would be avoided in that respect, besides the obvious benefits of making us a competitive superpower, and happy caravanner / truckie relationships (all have a right to use the road)

    They don’t worry about Jakes along Sesame street (the Hume) anymore.

  169. Infidel Tiger

    I’d actually appreciate someone telling me about something good this country offers that you can’t get elsewhere.

    Polony and sauce sandwiches.

    Pasito.

  170. struth

    At least you made an effort IT.

  171. Snoopy

    Polony and sauce sandwiches.

    Just like Harare.

  172. Snoopy

    From which parts of what animals is polony made?

  173. Memoryvault

    China!
    So far it’s vegemite, or go east young man.!!!!

    No probs getting vegemite in the civilised places.
    The Chinese love the stuff.
    Mind you, it wasn’t always thus.

    Ditto for KFC.

  174. Infidel Tiger

    Passiona was once the best soft drink it is country.

    We were a better country when it was.

    A return to righteousness begins with Pasito and Passiona being the drink choice for Australians.

  175. Memoryvault

    From which parts of what animals is polony made?

    You don’t want to know, Snoopy.

  176. Black Ball

    Chris no I am a relatively new poster, 40 years of age.
    Struth thank you for this information much appreciated. I would agree with your assertion that inflated prices on alcohol would be no deterrent to those who want it.

  177. Memoryvault

    A return to righteousness begins with Pasito and Passiona being the drink choice for Australians.

    Don’t forget home made ginger beer.

  178. Damienski

    Has there ever been a more revolting concoction than “Spearmint Milk”?

    Our Taswegian friends have a charming local delicacy – lime flavored milk – in a carton, just like iced coffee or chocolate milk.

    They are seriously weird people.

  179. Snoopy

    A return to righteousness begins with Pasito and Passiona being the drink choice for Australians.

    If you weren’t all talk you’d be getting your lady in the mood with Passion Pop.

  180. Damienski

    flavoured, and a pox on the auto-correct.

  181. Black Ball

    Ah Terminator 3 Rise Of The Machines. When Skynet is initiated around the world, in Australia it concentrates in Adelaide. What’s there of strategic importance? Chris Pyne’s house notwithstanding.

  182. JC

    Lloyds made really good soft drink, Artie.

  183. Memoryvault

    flavoured, and a pox on the auto-correct.

    Auto-correct doesn’t speak English, only Yank.

  184. Confused Old Misfit

    Even though for 4 months of the year you’re able to ride a pushbike without wearing a helmet.

    Not in NS! Or PEI!

  185. Memoryvault

    What’s there of strategic importance?

    Are you kidding?
    Where else can you get a spanking brand new, vintage submarine?

  186. Bruce of Newcastle

    lime flavored milk

    In the ancient past, when we primary schoolers were blessed with free milk in tiny little bottles, the law of the jungle was clear: chocolate was first to disappear, the lime green milk was the very last.

    There are few things worse in the primary school world than warm lime green milk in a tiny bottle.

  187. candy

    That lime flavoured milk sounds delicious. Maybe it is more tangy without the sickening sweet taste of chocolate?

  188. egg_

    Aunty – SloMo is in election mode.
    Who’d’ve known?

  189. Zyconoclast

    There are few things worse in the primary school world than warm lime green milk in a tiny bottle.

    …warmer limier greener milk in a big bottle?

  190. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    In the ancient past, when we primary schoolers were blessed with free milk in tiny little bottles, the law of the jungle was clear: chocolate was first to disappear, the lime green milk was the very last.

    You had a choice? Loooxury!!

  191. Memoryvault

    There are few things worse in the primary school world than warm lime green milk in a tiny bottle.

    You got flavoured milk??
    Sheer bloody luxury.

  192. egg_

    lime flavored milk

    Yum.
    Choc, strawberry and caramel were the other school flavours in NSW?

  193. Chris

    You got flavoured milk??
    Sheer bloody luxury.

    WA ever issued flavoured milk in the 1/3 pint bottles, at least to my experience; but some schools I think got tetra-paks of milk and maybe flavours turned up there…

    BUT the P&C ladies of our Primary School used to come in for milk roster in winter, warm up the milk and turn it into COCOA! mmmm. Certainly was loooxury.

    And certain boys of the middle grades would be on cocoa roster to go out of class and light the chip fire under the copper for the milk.

  194. Steve trickler.

    Bananas are great in a smoothie. And a healthy dose of radiation.



  195. Bruce of Newcastle

    Right now is chardonnay flavoured chardonnay as Brendan McCullum hits a six into the crowd to bring up his fifty. Ponting and Fleming are equally hot in the commentary box.

  196. MatrixTransform

    Maningrida

    My brother in Law was a teacher there … loved it.

    I worked in the Pitjantjatjara Lands for a while. As far as I know, you’ll get yr car impounded if you take booze in.

    Don’t even talk about petrol sniffing … exactly as depicted in film.

    another brother-in-law is Koorie, as are my nephews I suppose.

    He’s a VB drinking, Stubby wearing bogan just like me.

    hates vegemite

  197. feelthebern

    Passionfruit is quite exquisite.
    I am eating some passionfruit ice cream this evening.

  198. feelthebern

    No way, passionfruit is originally from south america.
    I thought it was Aussie.

  199. egg_

    Passionfruit topped pavlova would have to be quintessentially Oz.

  200. Infidel Tiger

    Passionfruit for a better world!

  201. feelthebern

    Apart from kangaroos, is there anything worth eating that is indigenous to Australia?
    Land based that is.

  202. Roger

    There are few things worse in the primary school world than warm lime green milk in a tiny bottle.

    Getting stuck with lime was not a good way to start the day.

  203. candy

    I am eating some passionfruit ice cream this evening.
    Nice.
    But to be picky it’s nice to have the fresh passionfruit on vanilla icecream, as well.

    I wonder how many kids now have memories of passionfruit on the vine and picking them off to eat, as well as mulberry bushes.

  204. feelthebern

    We had a passion fruit vine wicket keeper growing up.
    Took a million catches.
    Never produced anything.

  205. Roger

    Apart from kangaroos, is there anything worth eating that is indigenous to Australia?
    Land based that is.

    Macadamia nuts.

  206. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Apart from kangaroos, is there anything worth eating that is indigenous to Australia?
    Land based that is.

    Emu makes quite good eating.

  207. Anne

    James Comey is really bad at secret code.

    @Comey
    The perfect day to see “To Kill a Mockingbird” on Broadway. Amazing cast and vital message: “All rise.”

    Ruth Darth-Vader has gone to hell.

  208. Black Ball

    Right now is chardonnay flavoured chardonnay as Brendan McCullum hits a six into the crowd to bring up his fifty. Ponting and Fleming are equally hot in the commentary box.

    What was the commentary like with the kid running across the seat covers trying to catch the 6 off Lynn?

  209. MatrixTransform

    is there anything worth eating that is indigenous to Australia

    Finger Lime

  210. struth

    Apart from kangaroos, is there anything worth eating that is indigenous to Australia?
    Land based that is.

    I’ve always enjoyed roast Koala with a side of whitchety grubs.

    The Australasian bustard or bush turkey is good eating, but you are only allowed to eat them if you are of the royal race.

  211. Tel

    Passiona was once the best soft drink it is country.

    Did they ever put passion fruit into that? Or any fruit as all for that matter?!?

  212. calli

    is there anything worth eating that is indigenous to Australia

    Macadamias

  213. Mark A

    Memoryvault
    #2906374, posted on January 13, 2019 at 6:48 pm

    No probs getting vegemite in the civilised places.

    Ever since t was mentioned here yesterday I’m craving for the blooming stuff but can’t get it locally.

    Just googled it, can get it from the UK, posted.
    Ordering.

  214. Shy Ted

    is there anything worth eating that is indigenous to Australia.
    Yes, everything endangered. Then tell a vegan.

  215. Tel

    is there anything worth eating that is indigenous to Australia

    Some of the fish, and crabs.

  216. struth

    A couple of pieces of toast, butter melting with just the right amount of vegemite on it.
    Better if it’s crumpets.

  217. feelthebern

    Veging out watching Star Trek Voyager.
    I can’t believe that I didn’t notice the the hard, green, left themes before now.

  218. calli

    And wild hibiscus flowers (corellas) in champagne.

  219. Tintarella di Luna

    Good evening

    Flavoured milk was mentioned — Norco supplied milk to our school, custard flavoured, chocolate and mint – they were all delicious but my favourite was mint I think because I’d never tasted mint before — each morning the milk would be left in a shady part of the playground with huge lumps of ice on it so it would be cool for us to have a little lunch.

    As for passionfruit – I planted a small Nellie Kelly passionfruit on the 10th of January last year — it has flourished unbelievably and has crawled along almost 9 metres of our side fence — the fruit is just now turning dusty mauve and dropping off the vine – the taste is absolutely beautiful especially with mango, blueberries and plain yoghurt. Luscious — I never thought I had a green thumb, more like the five fingers of death but maybe, just maybe it’s in the perfect spot. Happy days.

  220. feelthebern

    Land based Tel.
    Macadamias, of course.

  221. egg_

    Moreton Bay Bug
    Balmain Bug

  222. Tel

    Once you have them on the BBQ they count as land based.

    I’ve eaten crocodile, that’s halfway land based… can’t say I’m an enthusiast.

  223. Memoryvault

    Better if it’s crumpets.

    Nothing tastes better than a bit of crumpet.

  224. MatrixTransform

    not land based … Flathead

  225. Bruce of Newcastle

    192 from the Heat. Awesome stuff. Worthy of the tongue!

  226. MatrixTransform

    didn’t notice the the hard, green, left themes before now

    Stronger together comrades

  227. candy

    Happy days.

    Really nice, Tinta. I had neighbours on one side who put in a passionfruit vine on the fence which grew very well. They said I could take any I wanted, very generous, I took some sparingly. Mostly they loved to see their grandkids when visiting and pick some and just eat them. I think they only grew them for that reason. Probably the kids are now picking out iPhones but they might have memories one day of something else.

  228. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Gees I’d love a Passiona!”

    Classic, Mater, thank you.

    “Jez, you could set your watch by this fvcking rain” was a slogan…

  229. struth

    Smoky Bay/ coffin bay oysters.

    when it comes to seafood, I think we can safely put that down as one of the positives to an otherwise shithole of a hiviz corruptocracy of a fly and bull ant ridden midgee infested, cacada ear piercing, thong wearing , cane toad whacking country

  230. Peter

    Crocodile seems to be so tough that the preferred form is ground as in sushi, risotto etc

  231. stackja

    Highly decorated judge Margaret Beazley QC next governor of NSW
    AAP
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    Margaret Beazley QC will be the next governor of NSW.

    Premier Gladys Berejiklian confirmed on Sunday the highly decorated Federal Court of Australia and NSW Court of Appeal judge will replace David Hurley.

    “She has not only been a leader in her chosen career but the way she has conducted herself, the way she’s been empathetic to everyone in the community irrespective of their background really endeared me to appoint her,” Ms Berejiklian said.

  232. calli

    Also Sydney rockies, struth. Sweet, meaty, salty, creamy…mmmmmmm.

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