Open Forum: January 12, 2019

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  1. struth

    I put higher fencing up at the rear of my house for the dog, and threaded passionfruit vine through it.
    Privacy can be tasty as well.

  2. stackja

    On-time numbers for Melbourne Airport set to get worse
    Kieran Rooney, Herald Sun
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    More than a fifth of flights at Melbourne Airport are running late as surging passenger numbers create delays on Tullamarine’s two crowded runways.

    New figures show the number of trips running on time at the city’s major airport is now below 80 per cent and falling, with airport officials arguing the data shows plans for a third runway are vital.

    Flights between Melbourne and Sydney, one of the world’s busiest routes, have also recorded spikes in cancellations and late planes.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Not the full article but most disturbing.

    Changing the date of Australia Day/Invasion Day, constitutional recognition and treaties are going to make all the fvcking difference, aren’t they?

  4. candy

    Not the full article but most disturbing.

    Can’t read it, but urban indig. or more outback?

  5. Nick

    Family members of the teenager have pleaded with the government to introduce pill testing in “legacy” of her death, with grandmother Denise Doig worried her granddaughter’s death will “just pass by”.

    “Premier, please: can we have this pill testing done. It’s such a small thing to do, it’s not hard. Let’s try and get it out there,” Ms Doig told Network Ten on Sunday. “If it saves one life; one life is a life. And these are children.”

    Children eh? So that would make the family responsible then ?

  6. Tintarella di Luna

    They said I could take any I wanted, very generous, I took some sparingly.

    I have offered them to my neighbours too but I rarely see them — I keep checking out the beautiful plump fruit but it is still green and I’m told that means they’re still not ripe — and then lo and behold the following morning there are a few tumbled on the ground, quickly scooped up for brekkie — yesterday my older son came over on the spur of the moment for some breakfast with us — such a treat — a couple of eggs and some rocket later I brought out a couple of bowls of the mango, blueberries, yoghurt spiked with the luscious little flecks of passionfruit, for son No 1 and the Sunbather. A precious interlude

  7. feelthebern

    Flights between Melbourne and Sydney, one of the world’s busiest routes, have also recorded spikes in cancellations and late planes.

    If you are not on the 6am flight from Sydney to Melb, you should expect your flight to be delayed & your schedule to be thrown out.

  8. stackja

    Black Ball
    #2906452, posted on January 13, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    WA Indigenous communities reeling after suicides of two girls within a day

    theguardian.com

    Calla Wahlquist
    @callapilla
    Tue 8 Jan 2019 16.15 AEDT
    Last modified on Tue 8 Jan 2019 16.16 AEDT

  9. Nick

    Tint, what aspect etc did you give the plant ?

  10. Bruce of Newcastle

    Family members of the teenager have pleaded with the government to introduce pill testing in “legacy” of her death, with grandmother Denise Doig worried her granddaughter’s death will “just pass by”.

    One of the newses (7 or 9 or SBS) said tonight that three-quarters of the kids do MDMA or whatever at these gigs. Tell me, exactly, how pill testing will stop this. #darwinawards

  11. Infidel Tiger

    Some of the native plants make excellent aromatics

  12. stackja

    Aboriginal suicide crisis as four more girls take their lives

    EXCLUSIVE
    PAIGE TAYLOR
    12:00AM JANUARY 12, 2019

    Four Aboriginal girls have taken their own lives in a horror week that has led one of the nation’s most prominent suicide researchers to predict indigenous children will soon comprise half of all youth suicides.

    There is deep concern that the overall youth suicide rate has been rising in Australia, and among indigenous children it is rising fast. About 5 per cent of Australian children aged up to 17 are Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander, but 40 per cent of the children who took their own lives over the past year were indigenous, Gerry Georgatos, the head of the federal government’s indigenous critical response team, said.

    “From what I am seeing it is heading towards 50 per cent,” he said.

    According to Mr Georgatos, more than 50 of the estimated 180 indigenous Australians who died by suicide last year were aged under 18. He said that when figures are finalised by various coroners this will be the highest ever number of indigenous youth suicides in a single year.

    The most recent tragedy was on Thursday in Perth’s south, where a 15-year-old indigenous girl is believed to have taken her own life. She had been living with her father who was devoted but struggling, a friend of the family told The Weekend Australian. Her death comes after a 15-year-old indigenous girl from Western Australia died in Townsville Hospital on January 3, two days after she was rushed there as a result of self-harming. She had been visiting relatives.

    On Sunday, a 12-year-old ­indigenous girl in the WA iron ore town of South Hedland died by suicide. Her father had taken his own life in 2012, The Weekend Australian has been told. And on Monday, a 14-year-old girl in the Kimberley Aboriginal community of Warmun took her own life.

    Federal Aboriginal Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion yesterday said every suicide was a tragedy and the effects on tight-knit Aboriginal and Torres Strait ­Islander communities were profound.

  13. stackja

    “The government commissioned the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Suicide Prevention Evaluation Project which was led by indigenous leaders, professor Pat Dudgeon and Tom Calma, to develop community-led solutions,” he said.

    “In January 2017, the government invested $10 million in a National Indigenous Critical ­Response Service which makes contact with families affected by a suicide or a traumatic event and co-ordinates support services to ensure they are delivered in a co-ordinated and culturally ­appropriate way that best meets the needs of the family.”

    Mr Scullion said the government, through the Department of Health, was also investing $84.75m over three years to improve access to culturally sensitive mental health services for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

    It has also committed $36m to fund 12 suicide prevention trial sites and a further $13m to extend the trials, including in the Kimberley and Darwin regions. “In addition, in 2017 I announced $9.5m to expand indigenous mental health first aid training in remote communities,” he said. “Unfortunately, suicide rates among indigenous people are twice the national rate and five times the national rate for young people. For suicide rates to fall it is essential Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people can access responsive and culturally-appropriate care — and this is something the critical response service provides.

    “We are also committed to working with indigenous families to ensure their children are attending school and adults are in work which will support healthier communities.”

    In November a study led by the University of Western Australia’s Pat Dudgeon revealed the Kimberley had 74 indigenous deaths by suicide per 100,000 recorded between 2005 and 2014, more than three times the average rate across Australia. At the time Professor Dudgeon said indigenous suicide was the fifth-leading cause of death for indigenous Australians compared with 13th among non-indigenous Australians. “The figures from the report are very concerning; it is evident that far more needs to be done,” Professor Dudgeon said.

  14. Pedro the Ignorant

    Emu makes quite good eating.

    Godalmighty, Zulu.

    Slimy, stinking, rubbery and just about guaranteed to give you a serious dose of the runs.

    To be avoided like the plague.

  15. feelthebern

    Some of the native plants make excellent aromatics

    You’ll need it after all that polona.

  16. stackja

    “Although it’s a complex issue and there is no single factor leading to suicide, it is evident that colonisation has played a key role in negatively affecting the general mental health and wellbeing of indigenous people, resulting in higher suicide rates in the countries reviewed.

    “Governments need to do more to prevent suicide by including indigenous people in their discussions. We also need to consider the social factors leading to these issues and the need for community-led, culturally based solutions. ”

    Readers seeking support and information about suicide prevention can contact Lifeline on 13 11 14

  17. Tintarella di Luna

    Tint, what aspect etc did you give the plant ?

    Nick, my dear Sunbather tells me it’s planted in a northly aspect but in autumn and winter there is very very little sun in that part of our property because there is a very large two-story house next door. However, come September the sun again floods that part for a good 5-6 hours a day for the Spring and Summer. With all the recent rain it’s really kicked along — you can virtually see its little trendrils grow before your eyes. Feeling very chuffed I am.

  18. Mater

    Emu makes quite good eating.

    Please! It’s one redeeming gastronomic feature (other than the eggs being excellent in cakes) is that it makes exceptional Yabbie bait.

  19. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2906470, posted on January 13, 2019 at 8:24 pm

    MDMA effects

    However, MDMA can also cause a number of acute adverse health effects. For example, while fatal overdoses on MDMA are rare, they can potentially be life threatening—with symptoms including high blood pressure (hypertension), faintness,8,56 panic attacks,57 and in severe cases, a loss of consciousness and seizures.58

    This can lead to one of the most significant, although rare, acute adverse effects—a marked rise in body temperature (hyperthermia).59–61 Research in rats shows that even moderate doses of MDMA interfere with the body’s ability to regulate temperature, potentially leading to deadly consequences in warm environments.6 Treatment of hyperthermia requires prompt medical attention, as it can rapidly lead to muscle breakdown or an electrolyte (sodium) imbalance, which can in turn produce kidney failure9 or fatal swelling of the brain, especially in women.62 MDMA use in combination with vigorous exercise causes dehydration,56,57 leading some people to drink large amounts of liquids. However, this could increase the risk of electrolyte imbalance or brain swelling because MDMA causes the body to retain water.63,64 One modest dose of MDMA can also reduce the pumping efficiency of the heart in people who use regularly,65 which is of particular concern during periods of increased physical activity.

  20. None

    Gladys B the Photios whore also approves of her attorney general wasting taxpayer money to argue that its unelected kangaroo Court in the form of the ADB can not only be used to victimize a citizen but that it also has jurisdiction over people not just outside of New South Wales but in the entire world
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1566923703452089&id=200316573446149

  21. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Slimy, stinking, rubbery and just about guaranteed to give you a serious dose of the runs.

    I’d sack your chef, if I was you, Pedro, from memory this was at Coco’s in South Perth.

  22. Memoryvault

    Aboriginal suicide crisis as four more girls take their lives

    lthough it’s a complex issue and there is no single factor leading to suicide, it is evident that colonisation has played a key role in negatively affecting the general mental health and wellbeing of indigenous people

    I. Will. Not. Lose. My. Temper.
    I. Will. Not. Lose. My. Temper.
    I. Will. Not. Lose. My. Temper.
    I. Will. Not. Lose. My. Temper.

  23. candy

    On indig. problems.
    On Boxing Day young indig. lad from over the road came to door very distraught and said his mum might be dead, as she would not move but her eyes were open. Luckily my son was home after family function and had come in for cup of coffee so I called triple O and we went over. My son did CPR while the triple O person talked us through. Three young children extremely distraught and a baby there. I tried to shield them but was on the phone at same time to pass on instructions. Five minutes later the emerg. services arrived and took over but she was dead. I’ve never seen a crack house but I reckon this place was worse. I had been thinking of calling social services in the weeks before because the lady seemed psychotic but a family member would turn up and put clothes on the baby and wash clothes and clean out rubbish.
    It took nearly 2 hours to contact the kids’ family members and we stayed to help mind the kids. I asked the kids where dad was but he had no phone and was begging in the city somewhere.

    My son upset because he felt he cracked the lady’s ribs in CPR but she was dead. The emerg. services thanked him and said he had done all he could. Poor withered drug addled body. Poor kids, nice kids, have been there for a couple of years. I had given them some money and stuff, biscuits, bread and so at times to help out and enjoyed talking with them and they had drawn me a Christmas card just the day before. But they had no presents just a drug addled mother who accidentally killed herself.

    Hard to believe in a first world country.

  24. DrBeauGan

    “Although it’s a complex issue and there is no single factor leading to suicide, it is evident that colonisation has played a key role in negatively affecting the general mental health and wellbeing of indigenous people, resulting in higher suicide rates in the countries reviewed.

    It is not evident, it is not true. There were no such problems in the missionary days when colonisation was most obvious. Neither is it an issue with adopted children. It has only become a problem when lefty thinking like this has come to dominate.

  25. feelthebern

    How come the parents don’t say anything about suing the promoter of the gig?
    How come no ambulance chasing law firms are offering their services like they always do when there is a community outrage over something.

  26. Infidel Tiger

    Cassowary is tasty.

  27. Boambee John

    Premier Gladys Berejiklian confirmed on Sunday the highly decorated Federal Court of Australia and NSW Court of Appeal judge will replace David Hurley.

    Pity it wasn’t Margaret Cuneen, but the PC fascist left will never forgive her for successfully prosecuting the western Sydney Muslim [email protected] gangs, including the Skaf brothers.

  28. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Aboriginal suicide crisis as four more girls take their lives

    Any Western Australian Cats remember the “Swan Valley Noongar Community’ and that repulsive old monster “Poppy” Bropho?

  29. stackja

    The NT Intervention and Rudd?

  30. Mater

    Aboriginal suicide crisis as four more girls take their lives

    Whenever I now hear of these instances, I remember the recent essay written by Bess Price (and posted here by someone).
    If they’d read this excellent piece, I would have thought some? of the causes are completely obvious.

    Why won’t they believe her? Yes, that’s a rhetorical question.

  31. feelthebern

    Pity it wasn’t Margaret Cuneen

    There’s more to that story.

  32. MatrixTransform

    i screwed the link up, but you get the idea

  33. calli

    lthough it’s a complex issue and there is no single factor leading to suicide, it is evident that colonisation has played a key role in negatively affecting the general mental health and wellbeing of indigenous people

    Helen posted a graphic description of the life of young indigenous girls a few weeks ago. It was heartbreaking.

    If they are looking for someone to blame, no need to go back two hundred years.

  34. Pedro the Ignorant

    I’d sack your chef, if I was you, Pedro, from memory this was at Coco’s in South Perth.

    Zulu.

    The “chef” was a driller’s offsider, and the restaurant was an open fire on Thundelarra Station near Yalgoo. many moons ago, but emu has been off the menu ever since.

    Not quite a swish as Coco’s, but a damn sight cheaper.

    Q. What wine do you drink with emu steaks? A. Anything with more than 20% alcohol.

  35. Bruce of Newcastle

    The ads in the Big Bash are wonderfully bogan. This one played just now. Glorious!

  36. stackja

    feelthebern
    #2906493, posted on January 13, 2019 at 8:46 pm

    NSW ICAC ?

  37. Memoryvault

    It is not evident, it is not true.

    Every man and his dog who has had anything to do with it, knows why young Aboriginal girls are committing suicide and dying by other assorted means, in record numbers.

    But don’t dare even mention it here.
    You’ll be accused of everything from being a racist, to advocating genocide.

  38. Mater

    Helen posted a graphic description of the life of young indigenous girls a few weeks ago. It was heartbreaking.

    Yeah, that was it, Calli. Thanks.

  39. stackja

    Green juice ingredient gaining popularity in Melbourne
    Tamsin Rose, Herald Sun
    January 13, 2019 6:57pm
    Subscriber only

    The humble celery plant has shot to stardom as increasing numbers of celebrities and Melburnians chug glasses of the green juice each morning.

    Proponents of the wellness trend say drinking the juice on an empty stomach before eating anything else has “miraculous” health benefits.

    Over the past three months, sales of the vegetable and juice have skyrocketed, according to grocery store Aunt Maggies’ holistic health food adviser Amber Amati.

  40. Boambee John

    bern

    That is true, but the prosecution of that gang caused thd PC mob to put her under a magnifying glass, few could survive that level of scrutiny untouched.

    She is (like the rest of us) not a saint, but she did a hard job well.

  41. stackja

    World Breaking News
    Palestinian woman killed in border clash
    FARES AKRAM and dpa correspodents, Deutsche Presse Agentur
    January 13, 2019 2:03pm

    A Palestinian woman has been killed in clashes with Israeli soldiers along the Gaza Strip border.

    Amal al-Taramsi, a 43-year-old activist who had regularly attended the protests, was around 200 metres from the fence when she was shot in the head on Friday, according to Palestinian human rights group Al-Mezan.

    Yes. Of course?

  42. struth

    lthough it’s a complex issue and there is no single factor leading to suicide, it is evident that colonisation has played a key role in negatively affecting the general mental health and wellbeing of indigenous people

    If it’s too complex for you, dipshit , shut ya fucking cake hole.
    This nonsense about colonisation playing a key role can be backed up by no facts whatsoever.
    The reverse is actually true.
    These kids are dying because of you, yes you.
    You’re the cause.
    And it’s not complex at all.
    Just look in a mirror.

  43. stackja

    Independent MP McGowan’s successor chosen
    Matt Coughlan, Australian Associated Press
    January 13, 2019 12:31pm

    Rural health researcher Helen Haines has been chosen by supporters of Victoria’s Cathy McGowan to succeed the independent federal MP when she retires.

    Ms McGowan is scheduled to make an announcement about her future on Monday at a media conference in Wodonga.

    Almost 200 volunteers picked Ms Haines as their next candidate for Indi at a meeting to determine a succession plan in Benalla.

  44. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Every man and his dog who has had anything to do with it, knows why young Aboriginal girls are committing suicide and dying by other assorted means, in record numbers.

    Tribal law….

  45. Snoopy

    The humble celery plant has shot to stardom as increasing numbers of celebrities and Melburnians chug glasses of the green juice each morning.

    Is it possible to pass off wheat grass juice as celery juice?

  46. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    That is true, but the prosecution of that gang caused thd PC mob to put her under a magnifying glass, few could survive that level of scrutiny untouched.

    From memory, she also prosecuted the Khan brothers – their chief defensive technique was to claim they couldn’t get a fair trial because they were Muslims, and to repeatedly sack their lawyers, then claim they didn’t have legal representation….

  47. Zyconoclast

    Arab Christians clash violently with police in Haifa over ‘McJesus’ sculpture

    3 officers wounded as hundreds of protesters try to forcibly enter Haifa Museum during demonstration against depiction of Ronald McDonald on a cross

    Hundreds of Arab Christian demonstrators clashed with police in Haifa on Friday over a museum’s display of a sculpture depicting Ronald McDonald, the mascot of the fast-food giant, on a cross, amid calls to remove the artwork that some have called offensive.

    Police said a few hundred protesters tried to force their way into the Haifa Museum of Art during the demonstration and that three officers were injured by rocks hurled at them.

    The show also features a number of other pieces depicting Jesus, including one of him as a “Ken” doll, as well as imagery from other religions

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-christians-in-violent-clash-with-police-in-haifa-over-mcjesus-sculpture/

  48. Bruce of Newcastle

    Candy – I am sorry to hear that. It is heartrending that a lady like that should fall with her family adrift.

    What can we do in the spiritual wasteland that Australia now is? A new heart and a new spirit is sorely needed (Ez 36:26).

  49. 132andBush

    My better half made five jars of passionfruit curd this arvo.

    As for emu, we used to find it made good eating for the foxes and pigs.

  50. feelthebern

    There are no saints in Sydney.
    There’s just levels of grubbiness.
    This city is in need of a cleanse.

  51. MatrixTransform

    What can we do in the spiritual wasteland that Australia now is? A new heart and a new spirit is sorely needed (Ez 36:26).

    Straya mentioned in scripture?

    Who knew?

    The St Bruce version?

  52. stackja

    Bunnings’ awkward ‘f**k it’ sign fail
    Nicholas Darveniza, The Courier-Mail
    January 13, 2019 5:27pm

    The phrase ‘FLICK IT’ appeared innocent enough until store-goer Adrian ChanChan spotted the accidental combination of two letters, producing a markedly different meaning.

  53. feelthebern

    Passionfruit, like oysters, are best consumed by ripping the things open & feasting on the insides.

  54. stackja

    Carpet snake eats Wishart family’s pet cat
    Sophie Chirgwin, The Courier-Mail
    January 12, 2019 5:15pm
    Subscriber only

    A FAMILY in Brisbane has lost their beloved pet cat after a massive carpet python consumed it yesterday.

    In a Facebook posts which has already received hundreds of comments and shares, Brisbane Snake Catchers said it was a sad day for the Wishart family.

    “An unfortunate situation for residents in Wishart today when they found a Large Carpet python consuming one of their two cats,” the post read.

    Brisbane Snake Catchers went on to explain the heartbroken owners accepted it was a circle of life type situation.

    “The residents were sad for obvious reasons but realised it was only natural for the python to do so and agreed they need to keep a better eye on them and even better keep them indoors,” they wrote.

    “This is another reason to be mindful of letting cats roam they can be subject to other animals as well.”

    The photo attached shows the large python with a bulge in its stomach before the snake catchers removed it from the resident’s property.

    Brisbane Snake Catchers wrote large outdoor cat enclosures are also a great way to keep beloved pets safe from the hunting of other native wildlife.

  55. calli

    I wondered. Mystery solved.

  56. Bruce of Newcastle

    MatrixTransform

    Read Candy’s report.
    Now respond somehow with empathy.
    I am inadequate myself.
    You are an arsehole.

  57. None

    I think you meant Jacinta Price, Mater?

  58. Tintarella di Luna

    My better half made five jars of passionfruit curd this arvo.

    Wow – I can hardly wait to have enough fruit to do that.

  59. Candy

    It’s gloomy stuff Bruce, that’s for sure.

  60. Mater

    Probably, None. A little vague, but close.
    Unfortunately, I remember the other details more vividly.
    Thanks.

  61. Perfidious Albino

    Jesus Christ, Dastyari and Lambie on I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here, classic relevance deprivation move…

  62. MatrixTransform

    You are an arsehole.

    toss-pot.

    tis yourself without empathy. You make a big song and dance about a few girls suiciding and yet males are better at it by a factor of about 4:1…. nary a whisper from yourself and this has been progressing for decades.

    Look at you and your moral preening. Glad you feel like your correct-think is getting things done.
    Genuine hero.

    I give you another bone bozo.
    Two of my close friends suicided when I was younger. Both boys/men.

    Now fuck off you prat

  63. Mater

    I think you meant Jacinta Price, Mater?

    Actually none, I was wrong on both counts. It was Jacinta Price and it was actually posted by Top Ender. Here is the link for those who haven’t read it.

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2018/12/01/open-forum-december-1-2018/comment-page-3/#comment-2877085

  64. Bruce of Newcastle

    Candy – I am so sad about what has been happening to our indigenous brothers and sisters. I regularly pray for the Australian Indigenous Ministries (link) but the mysticism pushed by the Left has so harmed aboriginal people, especially the kids.

  65. None

    Candy, I have no words.

    You and your son did all that you could. Even if you had rung authorities a few weeks ago they probably would not have responded unless the children were in imminent danger. Cracking a rib giving CPR- who cares. He gave her CPR. You Bose dead or that you possibly could to save her- that’s all that matters. One can only hope that their children will be in the care of family or friends or catets who will never put them through that horror ever again.

  66. Bruce of Newcastle

    MatrixTransform

    How can you be so lacking in empathy?
    How can you be human with an attitude like that?
    I am astounded by your callousness.

  67. Tintarella di Luna

    Jacinta Price has first hand knowledge of what is going on, she and her Mum Bess Price have seen it up close and very personally. And Jacinta Price isn’t afraid to tell the unvarnished unpalatable truth. But as always from whom does the ABFNC and all other leftist media outlet seek a comment, from academics who in all likelihood haven’t been within a bull’s roar of a town camp in the last quarter of a century. It just burns me up — perhaps the leftist compassionista plan is to kill off aboriginal culture by neglect and abuse hidden from the eyes of the world.

  68. John Constantine

    CPR is hard and horrible and unlikely to produce long term miracles.

    Just the odd time that it works makes it all worthwhile. Not publicly regarded as a last desperate attempt to cheat death, and expectations are too high.

    You gotta have a go, but if you find yourself as the last throw of the dice it isn’t your fault if luck doesn’t turn out.

    Was having a chat not long ago with a chick that got a second chance through CPR and defibulation so the hundred to one chances can come off.

  69. Tintarella di Luna

    Hard to believe in a first world country.

    What you’ve told us is both sad and terrible, indeed in a first world country, so hard on the children, do you know what’s happened to them?

  70. mh

    Candy, rather than writing indig. how about using aboriginal?

  71. MatrixTransform

    I am astounded by your callousness.

    Mate, a few posts ago Candy was posting about passionfruit and now here you are passing judgement on my internal mental state.

    the talk was about suicide and now your posturing and preening like a great cock.

    Are you you absolutely sure you have the right handle on this?

    Your’e so self assured for all the things you dont actually know.

    do try to curb your compunction to lecture me on Indigenous problems mate, my direct relations are actually indigenous.

    again … toss-pot

  72. Candy

    I hope so None but I doubt it.

  73. Bruce of Newcastle

    MatrixTransform

    Talk about the problem, son.
    There is an obvious yawning cavern in the spiritual life of our indigenous people.
    How are you intending to fix that?
    I gave you God’s suggestion.
    What is your alternative answer?

  74. MatrixTransform

    Go on double-down arsehole.

    you think you know do you?

    because Candy has a story?

  75. struth

    perhaps the leftist compassionista plan is to kill off aboriginal culture by neglect and abuse hidden from the eyes of the world.

    The plan is to destroy western culture by keeping aboriginal people down and separated in dismal welfare zones of apartied, and blaming “colonisation” (the west) for it.
    And of course creating that involves government largesse on a grand scale, so they live the high life in the Alice Springs golf course estate, fly all over and meet other like minded lanyard wearers in flash resorts for conferences and talk about how to extort more, while making sure their charges never break free of the disaster and human misery of the welfare camps.
    Seriously, for many, the more misery the better for their cause.
    The human excrement of the world has a scale, and the worst of it can be found in the Marxists who have self appointed themselves representatives of a race, alarmingly, usually not even being of that race.

  76. Black Ball

    Thank you stackja for posting the whole article, much appreciated. I linked it from Jacinta Price’s Facebook page.
    Soooo, as others have noted, there has been no single factor in these suicides but in the next breath colonisation was the culprit. FMD

  77. struth

    self appointed themselves

    vats wot I calls, inglish

  78. Memoryvault

    How are you intending to fix that?

    How about life imprisonment with hard labour and daily flogging for the animals convicted of repeatedly gang-raping young, underage Aboriginal girls? With the added bonus of castration for infecting these children with every STD known to science, and some we haven’t even named yet? Often from birth.

    And that’s for starters.

  79. Bruce of Newcastle

    Go on double-down arsehole.

    Answer!
    What is your plan?
    Is it better than God’s?

    The harm that the Left has done to the aboriginal people scarifies my sensibility. Mal Brough tried to bring some reality into indigenous policy but was flattened by the Left. The horrors in the aboriginal communities continue.

    At least the Gospel sees people love their kids, love their neighbours and live in peace. What is wrong with pursuing that outcome for our aboriginal friends?

    I grew up with many aboriginal school kids in a country school. I admired their prowess on the footy field as I played u13 league seconds. Badly. The aboriginal kids were in the top team. We wished we had them in our side.

  80. Black Ball

    And of course creating that involves government largesse on a grand scale,

    I recall some time ago reading Piers Akerman I think it was that something like 30+billion had been spent on Aboriginal programs designed to Close The Gap on things like health, education etc. If you spent that amount of dosh for no discernable outcomes in the private sector, do you think you would be employed, more than likely be swinging from a lamp post. Struth in my mind is correct, the more misery inflicted by Leftist morons the better in this, er, industry.

  81. mh

    Seriously, for many, the more misery the better for their cause.
    The human excrement of the world has a scale, and the worst of it can be found in the Marxists who have self appointed themselves representatives of a race, alarmingly, usually not even being of that race.

    Andrew Forrest went to Canberra to give a presentation to Parliamentarians on the dysfunction in Aboriginal communities and discuss some of his ideas on addressing the issues. The Left and the Greens boycotted the event.

  82. None

    Agree, John. CPR is really important to give a patient the best chance until professional paramedics arrived. It’s like getting them into a holding pattern. But whether you’re just a bystander or a professional giving CPR, the nature of the situation, the adrenaline, all of it makes you very emotionally invested in the outcome. So some of the what ifs and why didn’t I or should have I are quite natural but one should also let that go in time. You can only be responsible for what is in your control. Candy and her son did all that was within their ability to do – and who knows how long she was unresponsive before the kids sort help – and that’s all one can ask.

  83. MatrixTransform

    What is wrong with pursuing that outcome for our aboriginal friends?

    not friends mate… family!

    now do try to stop proselytizing, you wanker

    Like, I get it … you have the Dear Lord underwriting yr opinions and that you want to ‘do good’ which, of course is noble…

    but get the fuck off my case.

    YOU dont know nuthin’

    just saying’

  84. None

    I know Candy. At times I wish we were in a position to take in a kid.

  85. Snoopy

    Low intensity heatwave conditions have been forecast across parts of central Western Australia to southern parts of the Northern Territory, southwestern Queensland and across NSW, Victoria, Tasmania and South Australia on Monday.

    Low intensity heatwave conditions? Warm weather?

  86. struth

    Andrew Forrest went to Canberra to give a presentation to Parliamentarians on the dysfunction in Aboriginal communities and discuss some of his ideas on addressing the issues

    Yes he’s a rich bloke but somewhat naïve.

    He came along and started on this subject and came to the same idiot conclusions most people come up with when heading out bush and seeing it for the first time.
    But he had money and he virtue signalled.
    Nothing new.
    However that does not excuse the left on that occasion.

    He had a plan to get the aboriginal people working in his mine, like they all do.
    These people don’t get the politics.
    The very corrupt politics of those with a vested interest in keeping aboriginal people down and the extortion rackets going.
    They don’t understand the war zone and misery aboriginal people suffer in these camps making it impossible to regularly turn up to work.

  87. Leigh Lowe

    A FAMILY in Brisbane has lost their beloved pet cat after a massive carpet python consumed it yesterday.

    My cat has gone missing and my python is off his tucker.
    .
    .
    Uh-oh.

  88. Memoryvault

    Andrew Forrest went to Canberra to give a presentation to Parliamentarians on the dysfunction in Aboriginal communities and discuss some of his ideas on addressing the issues.

    Would that be the same Twiggy Forrest responsible for the death of contractors, south of Port Hedland, in a cyclone? The same Twiggy Forrest who shot through to Hong Kong to escape WA Industrial Manslaughter charges while his lawyers negotiated a deal?

    THAT Twiggy Forrest?

    A truly great humanitarian of our time.

  89. mh

    Low intensity heatwave conditions? Warm weather?

    The narrative is heatwaves are increasing.

  90. Candy

    Tinta
    After it was all over, police business done etc, body taken away, no-one of the family/extended family has been back as far as I can see. This would not surprise as mind boggling as that seems.

  91. Frank

    Jesus Christ, Dastyari and Lambie on I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here

    Wonder if they’ll get into some Big Brother style shower action for the ratings.

  92. mh

    Memoryvault, as you are not the most reliable poster here, you should provide links.

  93. struth

    Wonder if they’ll get into some Big Brother style shower action for the ratings.

    Honestly, scab eating and now this………………………

    No wonder I’ve had SFA to eat today.

  94. None

    This sort of article (back from 2017) highlights part of the problem https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/20/we-are-begging-for-housing-the-crisis-in-indigenous-communities

    You have lefty media exploiting Aboriginal Communities in need to bludgeon the government for more handouts. I mean what is the purpose of articles like these? How does it help anyone to report of people begging begging for houses, jobs, whatever – like they can all magically appear in the middle of nowhere where there is absolutely zero chance of any economic activity or self sustaining future. Where did this idea come from that just because you’re the first people – a very debatable notion you are somehow entitled to have everybody else support you?

    The sad reality is that some of these communities have to be shut down. You may want to keep some sort of infrastructure there for people to come back to their land every now and then for ceremonial or other reasons but they should be shut down as they are not economically viable and have next to zero chance of ever being economically viable which means every child that is born into those communities is destined to live in hell unless they can somehow get away from it and the best chance they have of getting away from it is to be at school and have some sort of stable environment where they can get the sort of education and skills that will maximize their chances somewhere else. But of course that’s going to be next to impossible if you’re living in a Hell Hole in the first place.
    Everybody knows that one link that needs to be broken in this chain of Horrors is welfare dependency but that’s also going to mean some really hard decisions like shutting down some of these communities but also helping people to adjust, to rethink and readapt some aspects of their culture -Jacinta. highlighted some of that. None of this is easy. It’s all really damn hard. Damn hard. There are no guarantees of 100% success and then maybe that it takes two or three generations to see some pay off but we’ve been doing everything wrong for 50 years and it’s time to do something else to get it right.
    You don’t need to be Aboriginal to be attached to your homeland and you don’t have to be living on the land to maintain your attachment to it. One of the first things that needs to be done in some of these dysfunctional remote communities is to shut them down.

  95. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Jesus Christ, Dastyari and Lambie on I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here

    Jackie Lambie, who hobbled into the R.A.P. the night before deployment to East Timor, claiming her back hurt? The old A.D.F. – the “Legion Du Papa” had a choice range of words and phrases to describe such conduct, none of them complimentary.

  96. MatrixTransform

    no-one of the family/extended family has been back as far as I can see

    For what it it’s worth, I’m sorry for the troubles

  97. Memoryvault

    MH, I understand your skepticism. After all, it’s not as if it was mainstream news, day after day, week after week, at the time.

    .
    sarc/OFF

  98. C.L.

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a President with such a firm grasp on the balls of Congress. The country supports the Wall, the Democrats know it and therefore also know they 1) cannot win; and 2) cannot afford to lose. Trump is the honey badger here. He don’t give a shit.

  99. struth

    Candy, tell your son we’re proud of him.

    Therefore, that’s a compliment to you as well.

  100. Siltstone

    Memoryvolt is right. It was big news circa 2007 and court cases went on until circa 2015. No companies ended up being convicted. Lots of money for the legal fraternity.

  101. mh

    Ok forget anything Andrew Twiggy Forrest tries.

    Now let’s stop the sob stories for abos because nothing will ever change.

  102. C.L.

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a President with such a firm grasp on the testicles of Congress. The country supports the Wall, the Democrats know it and therefore also know they 1) cannot win; and 2) cannot afford to lose. Trump is the honey badger here. He don’t give a shit.

  103. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’d actually appreciate someone telling me about something good this country offers that you can’t get elsewhere.

    Me.
    How hard is it Jesus Christ.

  104. Memoryvault

    Siltstone
    #2906571, posted on January 13, 2019 at 10:30 pm

    Thanks.
    Covered in some detail here.

  105. None

    To blame colonisation Black Ball I think is to infantilize people. To infantilize people is to deny a person’should full humanity, rationality n moral agency and to treat them as subhuman. But that’s what I think the left wants to do: infantilize Aboriginal people, keep them on the plantation (unless they’re part of the inner city hipster Lefty culture set). The left needs infantilized Aboriginals , women, gays or whatever other identity group they’re into today in order to feel superior. They have no other purpose for existing.
    Not a single one of us – Aboriginal or otherwise – was around when Europeans arrived. And I will wager that there’s not a single Australian alive today be they Aboriginal or otherwise who would want to go back to pre Colonial days. I’ve not met one Aussie, Aboriginal or otherwise, who doesn’t want to have a home, a car, a good job , a future for their kids, all the usual stuff we all want . I’ve not met any Australian who wants to go and live in a bark hut, hunt lizards and kangaroo, fossick for bush tucker and hope like hell that they don’t die of thirst at the next drought. Another one of the first things we need to do is just drop all this bullshit about colonisation. That’s just a political ploy by people who I that want to keep Aboriginals on the plantation or who want to exploit Aboriginal people for their own financial benefit and social status.

  106. Bruce of Newcastle

    MatrixTransform

    Poser.

    My ancestry is african not aboriginal. Does that mean I’m unqualified to say what works for africans or aboriginals?

    The spiritual void in my aboriginal co-citizens is the same.

    The passage in Ezekiel that I cited was written roughly 2700 years ago. Would it not be valid for Africans and Aboriginals both?

  107. Candy

    None
    Pretty sure lady was deceased for a little while before. My son said she was warm but looking at her face you could see she was gone. Eyes open but gone. She hadva horrified pained look on her face. I remember thinking that and a couple of days later my son mentioned the same things. We both had to work next day and didnt talk much about it really except for regret for the kids.

  108. Percy Popinjay

    Poppy Bropho

    ZK2A, I was informed of his “predilections” by another WA Cat when recently in Perth.

    Anyway, must rush, kicking back in rural Thailand on the lam from Al Sharptonin’s beloved “Thigh Militarah”.

    Knew the pith helmet would come in handy eventually. 🙂

  109. Snoopy

    good
    /ɡʊd/
    adjective
    1.
    to be desired or approved of.
    “it’s good that he’s back to his old self”
    2.
    having the required qualities; of a high standard.
    “a good restaurant”
    synonyms: fine, of high quality, of a high standard, quality, superior; More
    noun
    1.
    that which is morally right; righteousness.
    “a mysterious balance of good and evil”
    synonyms: virtue, righteousness, virtuousness, goodness, morality, ethicalness, uprightness, upstandingness, integrity, principle, dignity, rectitude, rightness; More
    2.
    benefit or advantage to someone or something.
    “he convinces his father to use his genius for the good of mankind”
    synonyms: benefit, advantage, profit, gain, interest, welfare, well-being, enjoyment, satisfaction, comfort, ease, convenience; More
    adverb INFORMAL
    1.
    well.
    “my mother could never cook this good”

  110. Pedro the Ignorant

    It is nothing unusual for an aboriginal family to abandon their house after a family member dies.

    Depending on the tribal group, the house will stay empty for a varying period of time, but another, probably distantly related, family group will eventually move into the deceased’s house.

    In some close knit communities a “death house” may never again be lived in.

  111. struth

    Some probably need to be shut down, many in fact, but some could actually do alright if they were allowed to break free of the very great socialist welfare state corruption that traps them.

    If there is anything more repulsive for a Lands Council than letting people become economically dependant then I have yet to see it.
    These people have power and wealth, set their own family group up in the council and won’t see any economic activity that may jeopardise their tax payer millions coming in.
    There’s obviously a lot more to it than just that, but therein lies one of the problems.
    Success lies purely in treating aboriginal communities as open Australian towns and the housing as being able to be owned etc.
    No extra welfare for dog ownership or travel costs for sorry business, or millions of dollars spent in other bum wiping exercises to enrich Marxists and kill incentive.
    At the moment you can’t see what’s going on because much of it is “No whites allowed”.
    The apartheid situation plus the corrupt welfare state of never ending millions must be stopped.

  112. Memoryvault

    Ok forget anything Andrew Twiggy Forrest tries.
    Now let’s stop the sob stories for abos because nothing will ever change.

    Yeah.
    Because underage Aboriginal girls being repeatedly gang raped, is exactly the same as a billionaire mining magnate dodging a jail sentence for Industrial Manslaughter.

    Not to mention my “unreliability”.

  113. MatrixTransform

    Poser

    ROFL.

    seriously srtuggling to spell correctly while laughing to myself.

    …tell yourself whatever stories you need to mate.

  114. mh

    Yeah.
    Because underage Aboriginal girls being repeatedly gang raped, is exactly the same as a billionaire mining magnate dodging a jail sentence for Industrial Manslaughter.

    WTF are you talking about? Can you even make a cohesive argument?

  115. MatrixTransform

    Snoopy – #2906581, posted on January 13, 2019 at 10:41 pm

    good

    Good, best better.

    …that’s exactly how we got where we are

  116. struth

    If there is anything more repulsive for a Lands Council than letting people become economically INdependant then I have yet to see it.

  117. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Depending on the tribal group, the house will stay empty for a varying period of time, but another, probably distantly related, family group will eventually move into the deceased’s house.

    You’d know the land rights case Pedro – the locals were demanding new houses because people had died in a couple of the old ones and they couldn’t live there because of the spirits of the dead. The wife of the station owner, involved knew “the law” better then the locals – the house couldn’t be lived in, until the first rains had “washed the spirits of the dead away.”

  118. Memoryvault

    WTF are you talking about? Can you even make a cohesive argument?

    mh
    #2906572, posted on January 13, 2019 at 10:31 pm

    Ok forget anything Andrew Twiggy Forrest tries.

    Now let’s stop the sob stories for abos because nothing will ever change.

  119. mh

    Ok you cannot make a cohesive argument.

  120. None

    Yeah it’s going to take some time to just sift through and process it all Candy. Especially your son. You might find yourself just processing it bit by bit in fits and starts because it’s too much to deal with all at once. I and no expert but I’d say that’s normal.
    I’m sort of glad both of you have each other to debrief because you were both there and you both understand the situation. Don’t be afraid to ask each other every now and then how you doing and how you processing it.
    In some ways that sadness for the kids is never going to leave you but on the other hand you cannot take responsibility for something that is not your fault. No matter how pressured her circumstances, she made the choice to do drugs. You both did well, your son did especially well. That the kids could also trust you when they sought help also says a lot.

  121. struth

    You’d know the land rights case Pedro – the locals were demanding new houses because people had died in a couple of the old ones and they couldn’t live there because of the spirits of the dead. The wife of the station owner, involved knew “the law” better then the locals – the house couldn’t be lived in, until the first rains had “washed the spirits of the dead away.”

    In many groups especially up north actual smoking ceremonies were used to drive the spirit of the dead away to his totemic area, but all over Australia it’s quite varied.
    In Arhnem land, due to the trepang mussies coming over from Indonesia for the wet, many ceremonies and songs have a mussie flavour and words used, and many of the people have mixed aboriginal Asian blood.
    Completely different people to say the walpiri.

  122. Memoryvault

    Ok you cannot make a cohesive argument.

    So, let’s see.
    First you accuse me of being an unreliable poster and demand limks.
    I point out that it was mainstream news at the time.
    Stiltone backs me up.
    I thank Stiltone and provide a link to the Wikipedia page covering it.
    You immediately do a 180 degree about face and equate industrial manslaughter by a billionaire, with the mistreatment of underage Aboriginal girls.

    And so I’m not being cohesive.

    That about cover it?

  123. struth

    In Maningrida, they bury their dead in the back yard.

    In the Kimberleys they lay their dead out on rocks, cover them with stone and then when they were just bones, take them to a sacred cave or rock.
    I ‘ve been to quite a few of these caves and rocks looking at skulls staring back at you.

  124. MatrixTransform

    Does that mean I’m unqualified to say what works for africans or aboriginals?

    Blacker than thou?

    retard.

    Mate, which part of this dialog don’t you get?

    Not happy about you trying to put words in my mouth.

    People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones etc …says my Grandmother.

  125. Memoryvault

    Matrix, BoN is possibly the kindest, gentlest, most undemanding soul on this blog.
    Do the rest of us, and yourself, a favour and drop it,
    Please?

  126. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mate, which part of this dialog don’t you get?

    My african ancestor was a slave. Yours never was.
    Time for a new answer. The current one doesn’t work.
    Don’t you see that?

  127. mh

    Memoryvault, there is no logic anywhere to your posts.

    Memoryvault
    #2906559, posted on January 13, 2019 at 10:15 pm
    Andrew Forrest went to Canberra to give a presentation to Parliamentarians on the dysfunction in Aboriginal communities and discuss some of his ideas on addressing the issues.

    Would that be the same Twiggy Forrest responsible for the death of contractors, south of Port Hedland, in a cyclone? The same Twiggy Forrest who shot through to Hong Kong to escape WA Industrial Manslaughter charges while his lawyers negotiated a deal?

    THAT Twiggy Forrest?

    A truly great humanitarian of our time.

    Where was I saying he was a humanitarian? Forrest is someone who is very rich and employs a lot of Australians. Possibly someone who could actually make a difference, but probably would achieve very little in reality. As you were attacking someone’s character I only suggested you should provide a link. So why does someone have to have a perfect record as an industrialist to be able to present ideas on solutions for preventing girls getting gang raped? Do you think Donald Trump cannot make a difference because of something in his past?

  128. Snoopy

    Memoryvault
    #2906604, posted on January 13, 2019 at 11:16 pm
    Matrix, BoN is possibly the kindest, gentlest, most undemanding soul on this blog.
    Do the rest of us, and yourself, a favour and drop it,
    Please?

    Well said.

  129. MatrixTransform

    the Oppression Olympics?
    seriously?

    what.is.wrong.in.your.head?

    so lemme get this straight. your opinion about me personally is grounding in the notion that your’e people (not you though) may have been more oppressed?

    Lemme go back to MY original point.

    male:female suicide = 4:1

    spare me the posturing about ancenstry

  130. Memoryvault

    I’ll let other Catallaxians decide just who is being “uncohesive”, and who is changing the subject.

    Repeatedly.

    I’m finished with you.

  131. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Memoryvault
    #2906604, posted on January 13, 2019 at 11:16 pm
    Matrix, BoN is possibly the kindest, gentlest, most undemanding soul on this blog.
    Do the rest of us, and yourself, a favour and drop it,
    Please?

    Seconded.

  132. None

    Struth, yes I said that some may communities need to be shut down- those that are not economically viable. Clearly others can be self sustaining. I won’t start on land councils or some aspects of what I call the Aboriginal industry (which often does not involve Aboriginals themselves). It’s clear that some Aboriginal communities or some Aboriginals in certain areas are facing crisis. Others are doing quite fine and don’t need anybody else’a help. I guess the only other thing I want to say for now before I get too depressed about everything is that there’s no one size fits all approach. I’m very much for local solutions for local problems. Some Cafe Latte urbanite in Sydney is not likely to know what’s going on on the ground in the Kimberley or in suburban Perth for that matter. So I prefer to enable and empower locals to solve their problems in a manner that suits them best. And hat will work for them may not be the right solution for someone else.

  133. mh

    Memoryvault, my original post was this:

    Andrew Forrest went to Canberra to give a presentation to Parliamentarians on the dysfunction in Aboriginal communities and discuss some of his ideas on addressing the issues. The Left and the Greens boycotted the event.

    I’m highlighting that the Left are very happy with the status quo and are not interested in solutions.

  134. MatrixTransform

    BoN, gentle soul that he is … went well out of his way to attack me personally.

    but since you’re all ok with that … I’ll just let it ride.

    chorus of retards.

  135. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Struth, yes I said that some may communities need to be shut down- those that are not economically viable

    I’m remembering the uproar among urban Aborigines – in Melbourne – when the then Premier of Western Australia, Colin Barnett announced that the more unviable of those communities would be shut down.

  136. Stimpson J. Cat

    My african ancestor was a slave. Yours never was.

    I’ve been a slave to love.
    Deal me in to this round of victim poker please.

    MatrixTransform don’t be a c®nt.
    That’s my job.

  137. mh

    Everyone is a winner here because this blog is about vigorous debate.

  138. MatrixTransform

    MatrixTransform don’t be a c®nt.

    born that way mate.

    but your’e not?

  139. None

    C.L.

    #2906574, posted on January 13, 2019 at 10:33 pm

    I yo-yoed a bit about Trump during the campaign but I have absolutely no doubt now that he is the smartest guy in the room. Best thing that has happened to America in a long long time. Still can’t stand his adult kids, but.

  140. Stimpson J. Cat

    BoN, gentle soul that he is … went well out of his way to attack me personally.

    He was protecting God from you.
    Take it as a compliment.
    You knew what would happen.
    I’m just glad Bruce is actually human.
    Thank f®ck for that.

  141. Memoryvault

    But since you’re all ok with that … I’ll just let it ride.

    BoN didn’t “go out of his way to attack you personally”, Matrix.
    He spoke his truth as he sees it.

    But thank you anyway for “letting it ride”.

  142. Stimpson J. Cat

    but your’e not?

    Of course I am.
    The biggest one here.
    But you can be better than me.
    All of you can.
    So try harder.

  143. Black Ball

    I’m highlighting that the Left are very happy with the status quo and are not interested in solutions.

    Because if solutions were adopted then the Left grievance mongers would be out of a job.

  144. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    chorus of retards.

    Jy is regtig’n onkunde stoofmondstuk, is jy nie?

  145. None

    I’ve been a slave to love.
    Deal me in to this round of victim poker please.

    Yeah? I see your gender and raise you an arranged marriage. I’m victimier than you.

  146. Memoryvault

    But you can be better than me.

    No, Stimpy,
    There is nothing to compare to your “uniqueness”.

  147. Snoopy

    Stimps are you a Brazilian?

  148. MatrixTransform

    4:1 you concerned citizens.
    go on make it all about BoN and … who said a bad thing.

    4:1

  149. Nelson Kidd-Players

    MT, so at what ratio are we allowed to become concerned about aboriginal girls?

  150. JC

    Why can’t you show concern for the 4 and the 1, Matrix?

  151. MatrixTransform

    Jy is regtig’n onkunde stoofmondstuk, is jy nie?

    maybe, maybe not.

    Which in particular?

  152. JC

    Nelson

    To be fair, the matrix does have a point. We keep hearing about the rape accusations etc that’s generally female centred, but the dudes suicide rate isn’t brought up.

  153. None

    Because if solutions were adopted then the Left grievance mongers would be out of a job.

    Yep. That also puts the onus on everyone who is not left to stop people being sacrificed on the altar of Lefty grievance mongering and to start working towards solutions despite the left.

  154. MatrixTransform

    concerned about aboriginal girls

    er um, concerned about er um, like everybody?

    seriously, girls, aboriginal, like … duh, minorities… and lgbtq

    at some point the whole Victim Olympics needs to stop

    …unless outrage is all that is required.

  155. mh

    Trump,

    I believe that he has to make a decision this week. If he is willing to declare a national emergency than he can’t hold back much longer. If it is an emergency you don’t hang around for weeks before declaring it.

  156. Crossie

    Pity it wasn’t Margaret Cuneen, but the PC fascist left will never forgive her for successfully prosecuting the western Sydney Muslim [email protected] gangs, including the Skaf brothers.

    When the announcement came my thoughts were why is this “never heard of her” the new governor when Margaret Cuneen would have been a brilliant choice. Seeing at who runs NSW I’m not surprised that no good deed goes unpunished.

  157. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimps are you a Brazilian?

    No but I’ve considered getting one.

  158. struth

    And Jacinda is talking from a female perspective.
    Yet female on female violence and the disgusting treatment of all children and many men in these camps is appalling.
    It’s complete social breakdown with petrol sniffing insaity and alcohol dereliction.
    It’s quite unbelievable all suffer.

  159. Stimpson J. Cat

    Look I have the highest percentage chance of suicide here.
    I just can’t do it however.
    I’m going to die anyway.
    Might as well wait and see what happens tomorrow.
    They may cure baldness.

  160. Memoryvault

    4:1 you concerned citizens.

    Matrix, the ongoing conversation was about the misreporting of rape of underage girls, leading to them committing suicide.

    You attempted to change it to a discussion about Aboriginal suicide in general.

    Nobody else was interested in taking the conversation off on that tangent.

    In other words, you were on your own.

    You got shitty because nobody else wanted to head off on your tangent.

    BoN attempted to console you.

    You got even shittier.

    End of story.

  161. MatrixTransform

    It’s quite unbelievable all suffer.

    yeah, but yr wasting yr breath.
    Some people only hear what they wanna hear

  162. Crossie

    Black Ball
    #2906627, posted on January 13, 2019 at 11:41 pm
    I’m highlighting that the Left are very happy with the status quo and are not interested in solutions.

    Because if solutions were adopted then the Left grievance mongers would be out of a job.

    No matter what anybody tries to improve matters the response is always the same. If you are not in favour of ever increasing funding you are a racist and a white supremacist. The Left is in charge and the rest of us get tired and give up.

  163. MatrixTransform

    MemoryVault, I think you have comprehension problems.

    but so long as you fell justified, that’s all that matters.

    go to sleep and tomorrow will be even more progressive than yesterday.

    you Good Man … everybody is so proud

  164. Nelson Kidd-Players

    True, JC, although I suspect the root cause for the aboriginal girls is less varied. They are also of an age that it is saddening they even contemplate that solution.

    Admittedly they may not have as many commitments at that phase in life, though.

  165. MatrixTransform

    OMFG…. rape?
    underage girls?
    WTF?
    Somebody should DO SOMETHING!!!
    Call the United Nations. make a policy!

    wait…

    Underage boy raped … killed himself?
    meh??

  166. Memoryvault

    you Good Man … everybody is so proud

    You really are missing the vibe, aren’t you Matrix.
    First with BoN, now with me.
    I’m probably the most unpopular regular poster here.

  167. DrBeauGan

    Matrix, it sounds as if some of that response to male suicide is personal, if so you have my sympathy.

    Most men feel protective to women and children, something our culture amplifies. And almost all women feel protective to children. To hear of a ten year old girl so despairing as to kill herself gives us the cold horrors. The statistics of men and boys killing themselves is dreadful, but the numbers lose us.

    What is so awful about the situation is that we can do nothing. Most here would, if they had the facilities, happily offer a home and love to that little girl. We’d take her away from the endless night, get her cured of her STDs, feed her, educate her, care for her. But if we tried it, the lefties would charge us with abduction, and triumphantly return the child to her own “culture”. And to the endless night. And that lefty triumph fills us with an equal horror. We could face a term in jail for trying to save a child’s life. That’s how utterly phukt the situation is. Bureaucrats and God damned do-gooders are forcing children into hell. It gets me close to murder on occasions.

  168. MatrixTransform

    I’m probably the most unpopular regular poster here.

    really?

    Who coulda guessed?

  169. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Obligations being one thing that may help a bloke hang on, that is. Paul Kelly’s Deeper Water comes to mind.

  170. struth

    The other day a young poofy kid in a pink shirt who fancied himself a bit of a talker came to the door collecting for breast cancer.
    You only collecting for that cancer and no other diseases I asked?
    What made you pick that one?

  171. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This one’s for struth – he knows the Mukinbudin district.
    Shearers show up at my shed, back in the day. One of the shedhands is indigenous – he’s had a few problems with the law, but he handles sheep well, and wants to learn to shear. He starts in the traditional manner – barrowing at smoke – oh – the shed owner looks away at the odd cut sheep – but the lad shows promise. Couple of us kick in to send him to shearer’s school.

    He’s now a damn good shearer, but he’s had to move well out of the district – the relatives keep “humbugging” him…..

  172. Memoryvault

    Who coulda guessed?

    Why would anyone have to guess?
    I said “regular poster”.
    Joanna doesn’t post regularly anymore.
    I just sort of inherited the title.

    Actually, I miss her.

  173. MatrixTransform

    There’s only a few that push back against you posturing do-gooders.

    Escaping scrutiny because of all the awesome good-nice-special things you say.

    omg…I’m outta whiskey.

    FFS!

  174. MatrixTransform

    Actually, I miss her

    I don’t care

  175. mh

    Matrix,

    What do you think of Twiggy Forrest?

  176. Nelson Kidd-Players

    MT, do you desire that status that you are projecting upon some of us?

  177. MatrixTransform

    What do you think of Twiggy Forrest?

    all forests are twiggy

  178. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Joanna doesn’t post regularly anymore.
    I just sort of inherited the title.

    Actually, I miss her.

    She’s been back, treating JC as the joke he is.

  179. Memoryvault

    I don’t care

    Understandable.
    Running out of whisky is no laughing matter.

  180. struth

    What we are doing here is arguing the points out in detail and learning from others experiences so as to be clear and deadly when fighting lefties in the real world.
    And it’s reassuring to find other relatively like minded people.
    This isn’t a fix it place.
    It’s not meant to be.

  181. MatrixTransform

    MT, do you desire that status that you are projecting upon some of us?

    dude, projection is definitely your province.

    some … have issues

  182. MatrixTransform

    all forests are twiggy

    — it’s forest nature

  183. Memoryvault

    What we are doing here is arguing the points out in detail . . .

    We?
    I thought you had left for Canada.

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Running out of whisky is no laughing matter.

    Catastrophe! Natural disaster of unheard of dimensions!

  185. Memoryvault

    Catastrophe! Natural disaster of unheard of dimensions!

    Did I tell you about my adventure with a bottle of Haig Dimple New Year’s Eve, Zulu.
    (Yeah – I know. Dishwater. But beggars and choosers and all that)

  186. struth

    Full bottle of scotch here but bloody shoulder I’ve taken that many painkillers probably not a good idea tonight.

  187. MatrixTransform

    beer at this hour is uncouth … but

  188. mh

    The warming

    Winter storm that left at least 7 dead targets Mid-Atlantic, sparks snow emergencies

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/winter-storm-that-left-7-dead-targets-mid-atlantic-sparks-snow-emergencies

  189. Steve trickler.

    This bloke was good.



  190. MatrixTransform

    bloody shoulder

    damned bursitis is driving me nuts also.
    nerve damage too.. radial?, median? …. arggh
    pour me a whiskey you bastard.

  191. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Full bottle of scotch here but bloody shoulder I’ve taken that many painkillers probably not a good idea tonight.

    Bottle of single malt. Local physio says “I see a number of D.V.A. patients, and all you military types have the same lower back conditions.” Single malt, and painkillers help.

  192. JC

    Look at Ronery trying to be a tough guy. It always fascinates how the cuckold thinks he can get away with it..

  193. Memoryvault

    beer at this hour is uncouth … but

    Beer at any hour is the epitome of couthness.

  194. Steve trickler.

    He was brilliant.



  195. JC

    Sinc

    These idiots are ruining your blog

  196. Old School Conservative

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2906364, posted on January 13, 2019 at 6:30 pm
    WA workers urged to start meeting with welcome to country

    The Sydney International tennis finals (mens and womens) were on the same day.
    At each prize presentation the MC acknowledged the Eora people, and past and present elders.
    The humbug is so ingrained that the acknowledgement had to be done twice! The only glimmer of hope for sensibility was in not also acknowledging future elders.

    Many people have provided us with the Australia we live in today and to acknowledge just the “traditional owners” is wrong.

  197. Memoryvault

    Single malt, and painkillers help.

    Skip the painkillers, they’re not good for you.
    Double up on the whisky instead.
    All natural. AND organic. Much healthier.

  198. MatrixTransform

    These idiots are ruining your blog

    temperance movement

    Is it curable matrix?

    Ballantynes 12 yo helps .. still in treatment… we’ll see

  199. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Did I tell you about my adventure with a bottle of Haig Dimple New Year’s Eve, Zulu.
    (Yeah – I know. Dishwater. But beggars and choosers and all that)

    Memory Vault, even an officer and temporary gentleman, a Scheyville graduate as yourself, must be forced to drink inferior Scotch, such as Haig Dimple.

    Check your E-mail, and we’ll send the bill to the North Vietnamese Embassy, payable in Vietnamese dong. Even the tri shaw drivers, in Ha Noi, prefer U.S. dollars.

  200. Old School Conservative

    Someone asked how the Big Bash commentary team dealt with the images of the young man chasing a 6 across the covered seats.

    All three had a big laugh, gave him lots of praise, replayed it several times with positive comments, wished fervently that the approaching security guard wasn’t going to kick him out, and interviewed him a little later. (during the live cross the guy said “bugger” on TV and that gave them a big laugh too.)

  201. Top Ender

    Appalling lack of safety concerns here in Louisiana.

    Went to a back-porch music evening last night.

    Someone smoking about 10 foot from the band and the 30 or so in the audience.

    A bar being run out the back with no sign of a displayed licence or warnings to the punters.

    One bloke had a revolver in a hip holster openly displayed. (Louisiana is an “open-carry” state.)

    You can buy booze from gas stations and supermarkets very cheaply.

    Everyone had a good time and the band packed up at midnight. No fights or drunken foolishness.

    In Australia the rozzers would have arrived, shut it down, and made several arrests.

    Shocking.

  202. Memoryvault

    Message received, Zulu.
    Thanks – All in hand at the moment.

  203. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Look at Ronery trying to be a tough guy. It always fascinates how the cuckold thinks he can get away with it..

    JC, silly old hairy back/half arab/head prefect, busted as a liar on this blog, June, July, August, 2015, and still trying to get away with it.

  204. Memoryvault

    Sounds terrifying, Top Ender.
    I’m surprised you got out alive.

  205. MatrixTransform

    Dimples alright I suppose.
    but the Ballanynes when its $42 at Dan’s …. Hmm
    it isnt Caol Ila… but it is 1/2 the price

    Teachers … underrated if you like peaty

  206. JC

    Always the original Ronery.

  207. struth

    Did you see our earlier discussion Topender?

    I was saying how I wish I had never gone to the states as ignorance is bliss.

  208. Memoryvault

    Now, about my bottle of twelve year old Haig Dimple.

    Got it as a Christmas present in 2009.
    Put it aside “for a rainy day”.
    Promptly forgot about it, then had heart attack and stroke in 2010.
    Came across it this New Year’s Eve, a bit before midnight.
    By my reckoning, by that stage it was it was over twenty years old.
    Not bad – but I was three sheets to the wind by then.
    And not really in a position to judge.

  209. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Always the original Ronery.

    Poor, silly, stupid old JC.

    Started his career with a French bank. Went on to work for a U.S. bank, at the time of 2011. Shouldn’t be too hard, through the financial world.

  210. Old School Conservative

    From Breitbart.

    21-year-old Mohammed Abdul has been imprisoned for driving a stolen 4×4 at a nightclub and smashing it through an outdoor marquee and onto a dance floor, injuring ten.

    Abdul was sentenced to 28 years at Maidstone Crown Court for two counts of attempting to murder multiple people at the nightclub on Queen Street, Gravesend.

    I assume the 15 vodka shots consumed before he was thrown out absolve him from terrorism.

  211. MatrixTransform

    Allright Bruce(of Newcastle), I’m sorry.
    I drank all the whiskey and got all punchy
    I’m going to bed now.
    Goodnight you bastard sons

  212. Memoryvault

    Goodnight Matrix.
    I just knew there was a good lad in there somewhere.

  213. Top Ender

    Yes, I scrolled back Struth.

    I agree with you. Lots of opportunity here; minimal red tape, and maximum freedom.

    Of course, I dare say it’s not as good as that, but it probably is 80% of what I’m seeing.

  214. None

    Leakity leak https://mobile.twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1083984700266360832

    Who is leaking internal polling and why? Still, what the fucking hell is wrong with Victoria?

  215. Mark A

    None
    #2906706, posted on January 14, 2019 at 3:37 am

    Leakity leak https://mobile.twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1083984700266360832

    Who is leaking internal polling and why? Still, what the fucking hell is wrong with Victoria?

    Did you read this None? and several others in the same vein.
    How far left do they have to go?

    @BenAveling
    ·
    Jan 12
    Opposition’s too good for the LNP. Until they clear out the climate change deniers and the far right nasties they don’t deserve to exist as a major party.

  216. Tom

    Roy #1 (Chris “Roy” Taylor, Herald Sun, Melbourne).

  217. calli

    The word for today:

    HEATWAVE!

    Song for today:

  218. miltonf

    Leakity leak https://mobile.twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1083984700266360832

    Who is leaking internal polling and why? Still, what the fucking hell is wrong with Victoria?

    If I lived in Fraudenburg’s or O’Dwyer’s seats I think I would vote informal. unless there was a chance of ALA getting up. What’s going to happen in Chisolm I wonder.

  219. egg_

    The word for today:

    HEATWAVE!

    Temps over 35C in Soyboy land.

  220. egg_

    Mystery Road on Aunty has Ernie Dingo portraying an elder rapist and all round eevil dude, to his/their credit.

  221. egg_

    Mystery Road on Aunty has Ernie Dingo portraying an elder [email protected] and all round eevil dude, to his/their credit.

  222. egg_

    Mystery Road on Aunty has Ernie Dingo portraying an elder r pist and all round eevil dude, to his/their credit.

  223. John Constantine

    “Over 3,200 cameras have been “neutralised, attacked, or destroyed” by members of the Yellow Vests claims Interior Minister, Christophe Castaner. The increased price of fuel and therefore commuting angered the protestors further after tight speed sanctions had been placed on a lot of major roads across France. In a lot of areas, the speed limit was reduced from 90km/h to 80km/h, which is around 50mph.

    According to the Yellow Vests, they believe that the cameras have only been put in place to increase fines, and therefore increase the price of driving even further – especially damaging to those with little money to spare.”

    https://www.grandtournation.com/cars/60-of-cameras-in-france-destroyed-by-yellow-vests/

    With yarragrads security camera network owned by the chicoms, and the tyrants tools of yarragrad able to beg the peoples liberation army secret police to supply victorias paramilitary death squads with the identity of antigovernment protestors, their snuff cameras are only meant for Tyranny.

  224. Up The Workers!

    In America it’s all Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, while in Australia it’s all Gynecomastic Bull Shitten.

    What is it with Leftard presstitutes and big tits?

  225. johanna

    Another sneaky ‘treaty’ to Save Da Planet entered into by our so-called conservative government, this time aimed at denying us air conditioning:

    The new treaty commits signatories to phase down hydrofluorocarbons, or HFCs, the greenhouse gases found in almost all modern air conditioners.

    In 2016, the former US Secretary of State John Kerry said Kigali was “likely the single most important step that we could take at this moment to limit the warming of our planet”.
    Patrick McInerney from the Department of the Environment co-chaired the negotiations for the Kigali Amendment.

    Peter Brodribb, an internationally recognised expert in the environmental impacts of HFCs, said Australia played a key role in the negotiations.

    “In fact the co-chair of the executive committee was an Australian, Patrick McInerney from the Department of the Environment. He was one of the main people that negotiated the agreement,” he said.

    The Kigali Amendment commits developed countries to reduce production and importation of HFCs by 85 per cent by 2036 and 80 to 85 per cent in developing countries by 2047.

    In October 2017, Australia became the 10th of 66 countries to ratify the Kigali Amendment, and began its HFC phase-down on January 1, 2018.

    The United States is still to ratify the amendment.

    Note that this is approvingly reported by TheirABC, where not a single employee has to work in an office without air-conditioning.

    The ‘science’ behind the ban is dodgy, to say the least, probably even dodgier than that behind the ban on CFCs. If history is any guide, we face a future with more expensive and less efficient cooling systems, all to appease Gaia and the whacko Green Blob.

    How exactly this is to be policed, other than by self-reporting, is unclear. Of course, there is no chance that say, China or India, will cheat. Nup. Godzzoner.

    Thanks, Feds! It really is hard to see how Puffing Billy and his crew can be worse.

  226. calli

    That’ll reduce those pesky Food Miles, Joh.

    No need for refrigerated transport. And we can go back to Coolgardie safes dangling in the gunbarrel hallway.

  227. miltonf

    Foreign a fairies , like the abc, does what ever it likes and the minister rubber stamps it.If you try to push back against the Canbra establishment, even a little, you get given the Abbot treatment.

  228. miltonf

    There was an interesting article in The Spectator by Charlie Lynn re DFAT’s expensive meddling in PNG.

  229. 132andBush

    The ‘science’ behind the ban is dodgy, to say the least, probably even dodgier than that behind the ban on CFCs. If history is any guide, we face a future with more expensive and less efficient cooling systems, all to appease Gaia and the whacko Green Blob.

    Less efficient cooling means using more power for the same result?
    Of course we can’t use more power so we (by default) have to cool less.
    These people really don’t like humans.

  230. Top Ender

    All on your dime too:

    Bhavjeet Singh’s Mardi Gras days appear to be over, if indeed they ever began, after the Administrative Appeals Tribunal upheld a refusal to grant him asylum on the grounds that he was gay.

    Singh left his wife and two children at home in the Indian state of Haryana more than four years ago and entered Australia on a temporary visa. A year or so later he filed a futile application for refugee status claiming his fondness for men could lead to physical injury, imprisonment or even death were he sent home.

    A refused visa is seldom the end of the story, as any migration lawyer will tell you. Singh appealed the decision, thus guaranteeing him a bridging visa and the right to live and work in Australia while his appeal was processed.

    Three years later, in September last year, the AAT upheld the original verdict, concluding that his story was “so evasive and superficial as to be lacking in any credibility”. It did not accept that Singh had engaged in homosexual sex or that he intended to live as a homosexual man in India on return, whether openly or not.

    In any case, the AAT pointed out, the Supreme Court of India ruled last year that consensual gay sex in private was no longer an offence under the Indian Penal Code.

    Preserving our sovereign right to determine who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come is easier said than done.

    Singh’s tedious, tawdry and time-wasting appeal against reasonable departmental and ministerial decisions is sadly typical of the 54,000-odd refugee and other visa refusal cases that were waiting to be decided by the AAT at the end of last month.

    Despite the Coalition’s best endeavours to close the loopholes, a bunch of irregular immigrants equivalent to 2½ times the population of Goulburn, is living and working in Australia on bridging visas despite legitimate rulings from the Immigration Department and the minister that they should be deported.

    The number of active appeals has more than doubled in 18 months. The average time between lodging a claim and receiving a judgment has blown out from 40 weeks to 63 weeks, making the $1673 lodgement fee for an appeal look a steal. Live and work in Australia for less than $27 a week.

    Pity the poor AAT officers who have to wade through these cases, listening patiently to excuses, separating fact from fiction and resisting choreographed tugs at the heartstrings.

    More in the Oz

  231. johanna

    Indeed, 132andBush.

    Their response to alleged increasing heatwaves is to make cooling more difficult and more expensive.

    Luckily, the heatwaves aren’t really increasing noticeably. But if they were, making life more uncomfortable is of little concern to these zealots.

    Then there is the impact on the economy. One of the main reasons for the economic growth of the American South since the 1960s is the availability of cheap airconditioning, which greatly increased productivity and the willingness of people to live there. The same applies in hot climates in Asia, and indeed to large swathes of Australia.

    We now have a two pronged attack: make electricity ruinously expensive and get stuck into aircon through specific measures.

    Still, there will be plenty of jobs for punkah-wallahs in the new Green economy.

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