A downside to the Great Society.

Liberty Quote

In a civilized society it is indeed not so much the greater knowledge that the individual can acquire, as the greater benefit he receives from the knowledge posssessed by others, which is the cause of his ability to pursue an infinitely wider range of ends than merely the satisfaction of his most pressing physical needs. Indeed, a ‘civilized’ individual may be very ignorant, more ignorant than many a savage, and yet greatly benefit from the civilization in which he lives.

— Friedrich von Hayek

Yes a Green or an outright socialist or a Keynesian can be as ignorant as a savage about the foundation of our comfortable way of life and still enjoy it while they try to destroy it. Natural selection has ceased to work.

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16 Responses to A downside to the Great Society.

  1. stackja

    There always seems to be OPM for leftists.

  2. Terry

    Not only do they avoid the consequences of their decisions, they ensure others bear them while maintaining a facade of smug sanctimony and open disdain for the very people that provide the parasites with their feast.

    A “civilised” society would simply hold these snouts deep in the trough until nature ran its course and dispose of the waste in a far more useful fashion.

    Instead, we indulge the oxygen thieves and even invite them to make the rules that deliver the yoke to our shoulders.

    Civilised? Sure we are.

  3. Herodotus

    We are not up against “ignorant individuals”.
    We are being white-anted by a series of lefties and activists (including media plus pollies) at all levels of society, not just the uneducated or ignorant level.
    This wrong thinking ranges across social levels, education levels and even political divides now, much to our chagrin.
    If there is no political process remedy, where do we end up?

  4. Empire 5:5

    Relax Rafe.

    This conversation will feel different this time next year.

    They already lost. Enjoy the show!

  5. If there is no political process remedy, where do we end up?

    Inevitably, revolt.

  6. In our little rural township, this quote rings absolutely true. I’ve come across many a purveyor of the Green Faith that decry all things that allow them their comfortable lifestyle, yet when any such thing fails (such as the internet), they complain louder than anyone else.

  7. AussieMAGA

    Libertarian: “wank wank individual wank wank”

    Only when you leave the cult will you see what nonsense this stuff is.

  8. Empire 5:5

    AussieMAGA
    #2911823, posted on January 19, 2019 at 7:42 pm
    Libertarian: “wank wank individual wank wank”

    Only when you leave the cult will you see what nonsense this stuff is.

    Fake and gay.
    You glow.

  9. duncanm

    .. demand pill testing, ‘cos you’re too stupid to stop taking the stuff &/or educate your children.

    .. refuse to vaccinate your kids, mooch off the 95% of the population who do the right thing.

    .. more broadly – Hayek’s quote explains why we have the politicians we do.

  10. 2dogs

    Natural selection has ceased to work.

    Adopt FOCJ and it will start working again.

  11. Entropy

    Natural selection has ceased to work.

    One of the points of civilisation. Nature red in tooth and claw doesn’t give a shit.

  12. Iampeter

    Indeed, a ‘civilized’ individual may be very ignorant, more ignorant than many a savage, and yet greatly benefit from the civilization in which he lives.

    Then such an individual is still a savage, he is just protected from living with the consequences of his ignorance by those around him who have gone to the effort to use their brains and not be savages.
    I think Hayek here is trying to describe what Rand would call the sanction of the victim, but it’s not clear what the context is from the quoted paragraph.

    Yes a Green or an outright socialist or a Keynesian can be as ignorant as a savage about the foundation of our comfortable way of life and still enjoy it while they try to destroy it. Natural selection has ceased to work.

    Natural selection has done its job. It’s delivered a thinking and acting, a volitional being, into existence.
    Natural selection isn’t going to do your thinking or decision making for you though.
    People are greens or Keynesian because they have bad ideas and make wrong decisions.
    People have the right to have whatever ideas they want of course but the massive advancements of the bad ideas advocated by greens and Keynesian aren’t entirely just their fault. Where are those advocating alternative good ideas?
    In fact, the greens cause has been advanced far more by those who claim to be their opponents, then they ever could’ve advanced on their own. For example, it wasn’t the democrats that were responsible for something like the EPA.
    So, where are those who claim to oppose the greens yet help build their bureaucracy on your list of ignorant savages, benefiting from civilization?

    Easier to not think about it and blame “natural selection” instead, right?

  13. Up The Workers!

    Save The Planet.

    Burn a Greenie!

  14. duncanm

    Where are those advocating alternative good ideas?

    they’re around, but they ask for responsibility, commitment and work; not mooching off a teat and feeling good with vacuous actions like protesting mines and buying Prius’s.

    So they don’t get the vote.

  15. max

    Suffrage Debate, N.Y. Constitutional Convention of 1821
    Chancellor James Kent
    The tendency of universal suffrage, is to jeopardize the rights of property, and the principles of liberty. There is a constant tendency in human society, and the history of every age proves it; there is a tendency in the poor to covet and to share the plunder of the rich; in the debtor to relax or avoid the obligation of contracts; in the majority to tyrannize over the minority, and trample down their rights; in the indolent and the profligate, to cast the whole burthens of society upon the industrious and the virtuous; and there is a tendency in ambitious and wicked men, to inftame these combustible materials.
    Thou shalt not covet; thou shalt not steal; are divine injunctions induced by this miserable depravity of our nature.

    The notion that every man that works a day on the road, or serves an idle hour in the militia, is entitled as of right to an equal participation in the whole power of the government, is most unreasonable, and has no foundation in justice.

    the individual who contributes only one cent to the common stock, ought not to have the same power and influence in directing the property concerns of the partnership, as he who contributes his thousands. He will not have the same inducements to care, and diligence, and fidelity. His inducements and his temptation would be to divide the whole capital
    Universal suffrage once granted, never can be recalled or checked, but by the strength of the bayonet.

  16. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    His inducements and his temptation would be to divide the whole capital

    A very adept analysis. The end result of such division is, of course, communism, and its slower bedfellow socialism. It is up to us to maintain enough hold over the culture to demonstrate to those who vote exactly what their communist/socialist vote will eventually deliver to them: national poverty and totalitarian political chaos.

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