Wednesday Forum: January 23, 2019

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  1. mh

    Dickhead Dan’s 19th century power system just load-shed our house off the grid — my first experience of an ideological power failure.

    Do you feel warm and fuzzy inside, Tom?

    Or just warm ☀️

  2. Tom!
    You’re our first Cat victim of climate change.
    Prostrate yourself at the altar of climate truth and your powers will be restored.
    Have faith brethren/comrade.🙏🏽

  3. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ricky Gervais
    @rickygervais
    I’m an old fashioned liberal lefty, champagne socialist type of guy. A pro-equality, opportunity-for-all, welfare state snowflake. But, if I ever defend freedom of speech on here, I’m suddenly an alt right nazi. How did that happen?

  4. C.L.

    That Watson rant on modern “art” was excellent.

  5. C.L.

    But, if I ever defend freedom of speech on here, I’m suddenly an alt right nazi. How did that happen?

    As Watson says in that video, “in 2019 everybody’s a Nazi.”

  6. Stimpson J. Cat

    She needs a job Tom.
    They all do.

    Chloe Angyal
    @ChloeAngyal
    Ex- @HuffPost Deputy Opinion Editor
    Like so many talented and lovely journalists, I was laid off today.
    If you’re in the market for an opinion editor with a huge and diverse rolodex, or a columnist with 10 years of writing about gender politics (and a literal PhD in romantic comedies) under her belt, talk to me.
    11:37 PM · Jan 24, 2019

  7. mh

    Infidel Tiger
    #2916925, posted on January 25, 2019 at 10:56 am
    Banning Rae is best for him

    He’s dying and should be spending time with his dear friends and mother, not people who consider him a piece of human garbage.

    Fine sentiments that brought a tear to my eye.

  8. C.L.

    Had he decapitated and dismembered his housemate’s unborn baby, he would have been invited to Julie Bishop’s for brunch …

    An Adelaide man who decapitated and dismembered his housemate’s eight-month-old dog during a drug-fuelled crime spree has been jailed for at least three years.

    The District Court sentenced James Alexander Rech to five years in jail for a string of offences he committed last year.

    The court heard the 20-year-old man was high on methamphetamine when he stabbed a man he knew at his Hampstead Gardens home before killing his housemate’s dog.

    Judge Sophie David described the offending as “sadistic” and “abhorrent” and ordered Rech serve a non-parole period of three years.

  9. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    A nation of apathetic, deeply stupid, ignorant sheeples ain’t gonna lift a finger to do nuffink.

    tall poppyism is alive and well in Australia,there is widespread approval when the socialist scum promise to raise taxes.

  10. Woolfe

    Hopefully the incoming Thugocracy will arrest anyone participating in this disgusting display of toxic masculinity

  11. Eyrie

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2916937, posted on January 25, 2019 at 11:10 am

    Thanks for that, mate. I’ve sent your screed to my local pollie in this missive:

    Dear John,

    Well after 19 months my wife has finally been accepted for citizenship but it can take up to another 6 months to be invited to a ceremony before she is a citizen. The efficiency and speed of the Australian Government is simply astounding.

    I ran across this, this morning on the http://www.catallaxyfiles.com website.

    From a commenter who sent it to his politicians, so I’m passing it on to you:

    “What kind of a society have you molded when aged pensioners can afford to neither cool themselves in summer nor warm themselves in winter?
    Why?
    Why have you done this? Why have you contributed to the ongoing misery?
    What is it that drives you to inflict misery on those you claim to represent?
    Why are you doing this?
    What happened to your promises of a better life for all under the beneficence of your party?
    Do you sincerely believe that an important trace element and plant food, comprising less than 1% of the atmosphere causes climate change, all by itself?
    Is your belief in this unproven assumption so strong that you are willing to destroy this country?
    You are all, each and every one of you responsible for the situation in which your constituents find themselves, either by your action or inaction.
    You are shielded form the direct effects and can look forward to a comfortable retirement at the expense of those suffering from your decisions.
    Perhaps somewhere, sometime you will see the results of your folly and repent.
    But that will be too late for us.”

    Note that the CO2 level is 0.04%, nowhere near the 1% he mentions.

    I wrote the following to a market/economics newsletter this morning in reply to an article about renewables failing where the author says he is in favour of renewables but they should be phased in slowly. Not at all is better.

    Hi Greg,
    You are correct about renewables failing. They always will. There is a place for them but it is in remote, non grid connected areas for local power generation. Even then the cost must be weighed against merely supplying more diesel for the generator that you’ll need anyway. Storage for that is a cheap steel tank.
    Don’t be fooled by the renewable scammers. If they truly had a product there would be no subsidies.
    Sure the marginal cost of a megawatt-hour that they charge might seem low but they get subsidies and the MW-hour is available only when the wind is blowing just right and/or the sun is shining. One thing about solar is very reliable – you don’t get any at night. Then add in the cost of storage and to that add in the cost of the backup capacity sitting idle waiting for when the storage is exhausted. Idle capital costs.
    All for what? Some stupid Green virtue signalling on Australia’s part. Nobody else in the world cares or notices what Australia does, even if they know where it is and even if we all committed suicide en masse it would make no measurable difference to the climate.

    I think the right word for this is “Potlatch:These societies’ economies are marked by the competitive exchange of gifts, in which gift-givers seek to out-give their competitors so as to capture important political, kinship and religious roles” We’re giving the world the great gift of reducing Australia’s CO2 emissions (if indeed what we are doing does that – it isn’t certain at all that solar and wind save CO2 overall when you look at the manufacture, transport, installation, maintenance and lifetime) so we can claim some brownie points. I did hear that one of the Native tribes in the American Northwest beggared themselves completely by doing Potlatch. Australia is doing the same. In ten years we’ll be watching the smoking ruins of what is left of the Australian economy and wondering what happened.

    Meanwhile we have several hundred years of coal and more uranium than you can poke a stick at. I favour uranium over coal but that is religious heresy.
    ——————————————–

    BTW if the Liberal Party just wants to pursue left wing policies but get to them only a little more slowly than the Labor Party we may as well go the whole hog and vote for the real thing, not a weak imitation and get the disaster over with.
    Regarding the Bowen dividend imputation tax, the Libs aren’t in a good position to oppose after Slomo’s super fiddles.

    Regards

  12. Toxic masculinity on full display on the Hwy to town.
    Young bloke in a ute pulled up and changing a tyre for a grey headed lady in 42 degrees.
    I should have filmed this awful act and posted it for the shaming he needs.

  13. Stimpson J. Cat

    Lindsey Graham
    @LindseyGrahamSC
    Let’s bury the hatchet and enjoy the next 12 years because they are going to be our last, right?

  14. Baldrick

    It’s not called Ruinable Energy for nothing …

    Ahron Young ✔ @AhronYoung
    AEMO warning Victorians to prepare for involuntary load reduction. Trying to import power from NSW, SA and Tasmania. We are using reserves for power now.

  15. dopey

    ABC: Emergency fire warnings everywhere, except for Ultimo.

  16. MatrixTransform

    Toxic masculinity on full display

    Ring Feminism Central and report it anyway.

    From what I understand this sort of masculinity happens all over Australia everyday

  17. Infidel Tiger

    Chloe Angyal
    @ChloeAngyal
    Ex- @HuffPost Deputy Opinion Editor
    Like so many talented and lovely journalists, I was laid off today.
    If you’re in the market for an opinion editor with a huge and diverse rolodex, or a columnist with 10 years of writing about gender politics (and a literal PhD in romantic comedies) under her belt, talk to me.

    Learn. To. Code,

    Better still, find a man to support you.

  18. Mother Lode

    Regarding the Dimocrats voting down the bill the pay Federal Government workers – the Dimocrats are bloody minded and machiavellian, but I find this hard to grasp. If it was just a matter of paying them but keeping the agencies closed it would suit them very well:

    Showing concern for the furloughed workers effectively turning the furlough into extended holidays would make them heroes in their eyes. And Trump will still be denied what he is trying to bargain for.

    There must have been more in the bill than just paying the shiny-bums.

  19. Confused Old Misfit

    Eyrie
    #2917015, posted on January 25, 2019 at 12:36 pm

    Thanks to you too!
    It’s little enough.
    But outside of grabbing them by the scruff of the neck, holding them down while beating some sense into them, what else can one do?

  20. C.L.

    It would be interesting to see Cruz run as president again with that beard.
    No president has had a full beard since Garfield.
    No president has had any facial hair whatsoever since Taft.

  21. Oh come on

    and a literal PhD in romantic comedies

    LOL she thinks this is marketable

  22. Mother Lode

    I’m an old fashioned liberal lefty, champagne socialist type of guy. A pro-equality, opportunity- equal outcomes-for-all,

    I feel pleased with myself for having helped out Mr Gervais.

  23. Eyrie

    “ZK2A:Screeching that “settler Australia should be burnt to the ground” won’t do much to help you escape being regarded as “public enemy number one’, will it?”
    I remember about 45 years ago one indigenous gentleman of colour made reference to the crops in the WA wheatbelt just before harvest being vulnerable to fire.

  24. 132andBush

    Good morning. How is the wind up around Sydney on this fine day? Enough to provide all of the desalination plant’s power needs?

    Rae hasn’t been available for comment since last nights beclownment.

  25. bespoke

    Infidel Tiger
    #2916925, posted on January 25, 2019 at 10:56 am
    Banning Rae is best for him
    He’s dying and should be spending time with his dear friends and mother, not people who consider him a piece of human garbage.

    I suspect if he did have friends they are long gone probably because they told him to stop being a jerk. And that explains him hanging out in emergency rooms and cruse ships for the captured captive audience.

  26. Leigh Lowe

    It would be interesting to see Cruz run as president again with that beard.
    No president has had a full beard since Garfield.
    No president has had any facial hair whatsoever since Taft.

    Hilary came close.

  27. MatrixTransform

    or a columnist with 10 years of writing about gender politics (and a literal PhD in romantic comedies) under her belt

    poor dear should get a Grad Cert as well because now she got schooled in Tragic Farces as well

  28. Eyrie

    http://www.windy.com has about 0 to 10 knots in Sydney right now. What was the minimum required to get useful power out of a scam turbine?
    Hmm I like the sound of that.

  29. Infidel Tiger

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  30. MsDolittle

    Right on cue power blackout across Vic. We deserve this

  31. Leigh Lowe

    It’s not called Ruinable Energy for nothing …

    Ahron Young  @AhronYoung
    AEMO warning Victorians to prepare for involuntary load reduction. Trying to import power from NSW, SA and Tasmania. We are using reserves for power now.

    Ah, yes, “reserves”.
    Which are created by shedding other customers, mostly industry.
    We are truly fucked.

  32. Top Ender

    Debating about whether a state has ever shut down operations due to lack of money in Australia.

    Detroit went bankrupt, and Greece has been bailed out several times by other nations.

    Has the same ever happened in Oz?

  33. struth

    Mildura is bracing for a high of 47C — its warmest day since records began.

    Bull.
    125F in the sixties. Or has the data been pulled, adjusted or homogenized.

    Exactly, and the forecast hasn’t happened yet.

    These fuckers , and that isn’t even harsh enough language for them, are claiming records before they don’t happen anyway.

    Tom, are you in a safe Liberal seat?

    It would be interesting to see which swinging seats suffer blackouts.

  34. mh

    I wonder if AOC will follow Bernie?

    I don’t think she is quite there yet.

  35. Eyrie

    That French waitress is a tough cookie. She’d have been in the Resistance blowing up German trains during the war. Pity she wasn’t carrying, she could have blown the prick to his reward.

  36. Mater

    Ah, yes, “reserves”.
    Which are created by shedding other customers, mostly industry.
    We are truly fucked.

    We’re past that now. We’re into rolling blackouts.

    CitiPower and Powercor has been directed by the Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) to begin shedding electricity load across our networks to reduce the risk of extended wide-spread blackouts.

    We are directed to shed load when demand on the electricity grid is greater than the amount of electricity supply that is available. This is not associated with localised network outages.

    Our control room is now conducting outages on a rotational basis. We will restore power to customer when directed by AEMO.

  37. Tom

    Small mercies: cool change just went through. Temp has dropped 10C to 27C. Powercorp says our supply, which went down just after midday, will be reconnected “later today”, which means — on their track record — 8-12 hours. I have my laptop running via my car battery.

    What a laughing stock Australia is.

  38. struth

    Hot weather does not cause blackouts.
    A lack of power causes blackouts.

    People will die because of this, but you won’t hear about it.

    As Gilas and I have said, nothing will happen……………………….it’s Australia.

  39. Eyrie

    “involuntary load reduction”
    What a polite term for “deliberate power cuts because we failed to foresee the completely foreseeable”.

  40. MsDolittle

    Fecking hot in Hawthorn

  41. John Constantine

    Earnest activists are using their phones to broadcast the will of Stalin from their abc offices in shepparton.

    Rolling blackouts have hit their abc offices and all they can do is instruct the proles to cut power use and do more windmills.

    Just as the chicom media dutifully enabled the mass murder and deindustrialisation of the maoist cultural revolution, their abc is unwavering in enabling their davos-soros cultural revolution.

    Comrades.

  42. OldOzzie

    JoNova Forgotten history: 50 degrees everywhere, right across Australia in the 1800s

    Don’t believe your lying eyes — Australian newspaper archives are full of temperatures recorded higher than 121 in the shade which is 50C. All of these temperatures in the map below are found in historic newspaper archives. Measurements done after 1910 are even done with official Stevenson screens, yet the BOM “throws them away”. It’s true that ones done in the 1800s are often recorded on non-standard equipment, or are just literally “in the shade” under cover. So some of these, perhaps many, are one or two degrees too high. But even if we take two degrees off, how scary is global warming when Australia knew many days of 48C and 49C and some at 50C 120 years ago? The BOM — supposedly so concerned about the State of Our Climate — show little interest in talking about our history or in analyzing it, or even mentioning it.

    And modern temperatures are recorded on electronic equipment, sometimes in areas affected by urban heat islands (concrete and cars).

    The worst heatwave was probably January 1896 when the nation was “like a furnace”.

  43. mh

    Delaying the washing machine or dishwasher cycle and turning up air conditioners could help keep the lights on during extreme heat this afternoon, the state government says.

    Any disruption to Belt and Road projects?

  44. Stimpson J. Cat

    A lot of great Character Building going on in Victoria and South Australia at the moment.

    Could this be the comeback and resurgence of Australian Artisanal Stoicism™ (ASS) ?

    Time Will Tell!

    Stay Strong Folks!

  45. Zatara

    AEMO warning Victorians to prepare for involuntary load reduction. Trying to import power from NSW, SA and Tasmania. We are using reserves for power now.

    All self-imposed emergencies. Foolish beyond belief.

    The Luftwaffe bombings never managed to do that much infrastructure damage to the UK during the Blitz. They had blackouts yes, but they weren’t because of a lack of electricity.

    A terrorist who really wanted to make an impact need only go after the incredibly vulnerable means of power transportation to bring entire states to a screeching halt.

  46. MsDolittle

    Worked in Mildura earlier this week , car indicated 46. To be expected. Doc wore his lightweight checked strides and some old blockie asked him why he’s in PJs.

  47. Mother Lode

    Toxic masculinity on full display on the Hwy to town.
    Young bloke in a ute pulled up and changing a tyre for a grey headed lady in 42 degrees.
    I should have filmed this awful act and posted it for the shaming he needs.

    One of the elements of the ‘Toxic Masculinity’ campaign is to conflate boorish behaviour in some men with masculinity.

    And ‘mansplaining’ is utter made up nonsense. There are always going to be people who do not correctly gauge the degree of someone’s knowledge when explaining things. If it happens it is based on experience of similar situations. Is anyone really surprised if men usually know more about cars than women? I work in an engineering firm with a mix of male and females and I have never seen any patronising simplifications or scoffs.

    ‘Manspreading’ is put down to some kind of privilege behaviour, rather than the biological necessity for men not to overheat their gonads. I suspect it might also make a difference that male pelvises are narrower so the tissues of the thigh automatically push the legs apart.

    Another is to make men feel uncertain even about whether their masculinity is permitted – believe it or not masculinity is deferential to woman. Otherwise women’s rights would never have made inroads into what was previously a male dominated society.

    So if a woman objects to a guy, say opening a door for her, the guy will just let it go. But the longer term goal is to make men perpetually anxious and eager for cues for their behaviour – to be subject to women: The very condition the feminists claim to be so outraged by.

  48. OldOzzie

    Looks like for Melbourne Max Temp is 41.7C at 12:50pm

    as

    Geelong Racecourse got to 43.9C at 12:19pm and is now at 12:50pm 31.4 C

  49. Tom

    Tom, are you in a safe Liberal seat?

    Marginal Liberal (Corangamite), held by Sarah Henderson, an ex-ABC zombie and loony leftist who backed the 2015 Trumble coup.

    Come May, she’s on a highway to hell.

  50. Could this be the comeback and resurgence of Australian Artisanal Stoicism™ (ASS) ?

    Hang on a minute there Stimpson with that there trademark.
    My late Dad used to declare himself a stoic as far back as I can remember.
    An artisan to boot. He’d roll up the Age and tape it to make a dog friendly “whacking stick” as he used to call it. Can you think of a better use for the Age?

  51. struth

    When do we call it for what it is?

    We are a third world basket case of socialist corruption.
    We have no democracy with our voting system, so no redress, and power being rationed is very much a part of life in the third world.
    If Australians don’t, and they won’t, fire up after these blackouts, that’ll be killing their nannas and grampas, after their kids are being sexually abused at school, you know what, fuck’em

    My conscious is clear, I fought and protested.

    What a shit hole.

  52. John Constantine

    Their amp announces dark times ahead.

    Their shorten branch stacking cartel has big donors in the union funds management sector making suggestions as to how union funds management can get monopoly control of australias fund management industry.

    Comrades.

  53. The A.D.

    Super Group Retail (SUL) share price going up.
    Up almost 6% already this morning.

  54. Geriatric Mayfly

    Report: Native American Nathan Phillips Has Criminal Background Breibart

    The sort of scrapes with the law that one comes to expect from Natives whose lands have been stolen. He’s not in the hardened criminal class, but a bit dodgy nevertheless.

  55. Mother Lode

    HOL LEE SHIT!

    Trying to steal the initiative from Occasional-Cortex.

    Bernie has years of experience on the feisty Sesame Street muppet that is AOC. He is accustomed to socialist regimes failing and just as accustomed to elucidating how it was not real socialism.

    AOC is tying herself to this under the misapprehension appropriate to a loudmouth know-nothing that it can be fixed by her talking about it.

  56. mh

    For all southerners that are stuck with no power this afternoon, here is a great Alex Jones documentary

  57. Eyrie

    “So if a woman objects to a guy, say opening a door for her, the guy will just let it go.”
    Nah, just ask her if she likes cats because she’ll need them for company in her old age.

  58. C.L.

    Consider this: the Liberal Party couldn’t turn the left’s climate change dogma against them, despite the fact that the country no longer has enough electricity. That wasn’t a winner for them.

  59. Leigh Lowe

    Parents’ fight over public or private school spills over into court
    Natasha Bita, The Courier-Mail
    January 25, 2019 9:03am
    Subscriber only
    A DIVORCED mother who complained about the “toxic football culture’’ of private boys’ schools has won the right to send her son to a state high school.
    A judge ruled in the mother’s favour in a dispute with her ex-husband, who argued that a private education would give their 12-year-old son “routine, discipline and support’’.

    And then phase 2 begins.
    She applies to the Family Court to have the money that would have been paid by the father for private school fees to be applied to “other childhood expenses”.

  60. Geriatric Mayfly

    Can you think of a better use for the Age?

    Yes. Cut into squares and hung on a string beside the can in the outdoor dunny. As experienced in real life.

  61. OldOzzie

    Chris Bowen and the ALP want to trash two fundamental pillars of our tax policy

    ROBERT GOTTLIEBSEN

    Let me explain simply the nub of where Chris Bowen and I differ over the so-called retirement and pensioners’ tax. I think once most Australians, including many ALP supporters, understand the fundamental pillars that underpin my view, they will be on my side rather than that of the Treasurer in waiting.

    But first I want to express my appreciation to Chris Bowen for his willingness to debate the issue and I urge my readers to read every word he has written.

    I might be old fashioned, but I believe passionately in two pillars of Australian taxation policy: The first pillar is that people in the same financial position (i.e. have the same assets and income) should be treated the same. Since federation all political parties have endorsed this anti-discrimination policy. Until now.

    Secondly, where there are longstanding retirement rules under which people arrange their future when they cease working, there should be extensive grandfathering when fundamental changes are proposed. I am afraid both sides of politics have strayed from this pillar, but I can’t recall any group of politicians being so ruthless in their treatment of battling retirees and grandparents as Bill Shorten’s ALP.

    Let me set out in the clearest possible terms how Bill Shorten and Chris Bowen are dismantling the first and second pillars. I believe they have been extremely poorly advised so I will put forward some ideas help them adjust their policy to conform with the above two pillars which I believe help unite our society.

    Until now, both parties had an agreed policy whereby shareholders in a company would not be double taxed on company profits. Accordingly, when you receive a dividend from a company that dividend forms part of your taxable income. But you receive a credit for the tax already paid by the company (it’s called a franking credit) so there is no double taxation. If you are a retiree and have no other taxable income, of course you receive the corporate tax refund in cash.

    If Chris Bowen had declared that all non-earning retirees can no longer receive the cashback refund or, where there were exemptions, then those exemptions applied to all people in that classification, I would have declared that his retirement and pensioners’ tax complied with the first pillar.

    Instead, Shorten and Bowen discriminated between people with the same assets and income thus trashing the first pillar for the first time in our history.

    Bill Shorten and Chris Bowen declared that if you had no taxable income but saved your money through an industry or certain retail funds then you would receive your cash refund entitlement “in full”. I repeat “in full”.

    By contrast, if you are in exactly the same financial situation, again with no taxable income, but saved outside of superannuation or saved via some retail funds or most self-managed funds then you would not receive a cent of your cash refund entitlement. I repeat not a cent. There are more than a million Australians being discriminated against this way — probably more women than men.

    There was an exemption for pensioners but again there was blatant discrimination — if you did not register by a set date you got hit by the tax. Never in our history has any set of politicians ever engaged in such blatant and unfair discrimination.

    The ALP shadow ministers have minders who insulate them from the pleading letters/emails from salt-of-the-earth older Australians who have been hit hard while their retired friends in the same financial position are totally unaffected.

    By contrast I have no minders to shield me. I am human and I let the letters/emails from wonderful people create anger and I described the industry funds as ALP mates. That was not fair. They have won the superannuation wars fair and square and not on a mates basis.

    Shorten and Bowen defend their blatant discrimination by saying that because the industry and big retail funds happened to have members who were salary earners and paid tax, those salary earners’ tax payments can be credited to the retirees so they can receive their corporate tax cash refunds. That’s an insult to the intelligence of ordinary Australians. To mix up the taxes paid by one member of a fund with the tax status of an entirely separate person breaks all the rules. It’s a complete nonsense.

    So, if the retirement and pensioner tax is to be fair it must apply to everyone in the same tax income/asset bracket and cannot exclude those in retail and industry funds. All must have their cash franking credit refunds blocked

    Of course, we all know that if everyone was subject to the retirement and pensioner tax it would spark a riot among grandparents and retirees and would enrage their children.

    So, if we are making the tax comply with the first pillar outlined above and apply it to all people equally, then we must grandfather it to comply with pillar two.

    I would suggest that everyone be given a $15,000 limit on their cash franking credits. Make it a fixed sum so it will be reduced by inflation over the years. If Chris Bowen is right that there is a pool of rich people out there who will pay most of the tax, then this will not greatly affect his revenue. But while I can’t prove it, I think he is wrong. I believe the vast bulk of the $55 billion in projected revenue will be raised from battlers. If I am right then fair grandfathering would decimate the income projections.

    The ALP is set to win a May election by one of the biggest margins in our history. So, Chris Bowen will claim that he has a mandate. But the Australian population is justifiably so angry with the Coalition that they want to teach it a lesson. In my view, a May election will be about venting voter anger against the Liberals and not the policies of either party. But under the accepted practice, Chris Bowen is entitled to claim a mandate.

    So, after the election the retirement and pensioners tax will become law. We are going to be stuck with a precedent that promotes taxation discrimination. Who knows what politicians will do next time. With some justification, I don’t believe Bill Shorten fully understood this when he originally endorsed the policy.

    Unfortunately, the ALP has made promises that spend the money. But there is a way out. The real issue is the level of franking credit benefit. Cut the total franking credits benefit (not just those credits received in cash) from 100 per cent of tax paid to say 95 or 90 per cent and end the illegal use of franking credits by international investors. While many will oppose this, the measure conforms with my two pillars and does not create an incredibly dangerous and divisive precedent that shatters salt of the earth Australians.

  62. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    If you’re in the market for an opinion editor with a huge and diverse rolodex, or a columnist with 10 years of writing about gender politics (and a literal PhD in romantic comedies) under her belt, talk to me.

    what the bet she ends up in hollywood

  63. Mother Lode

    I think people will be quite receptive to plans to increase power generation after suffering a few black outs in summer.

    They just need someone to provide a palatable way to reconcile it with what they have gone along with for years.

    A coal fired power station with some nebulous feature that treats the CO2. Or seeding a lake with the algae that do most of the photosynthesis to make it CO2 neutral. Or maybe offering to spend money on bushfire management to prevent fires in SE Asia or something.

    Question is – which state will do it first.

    Gladys, you have an election coming up. You will harvest votes if you can promise that the aircon will stay on.

  64. OldOzzie

    But first I want to express my appreciation to Chris Bowen for his willingness to debate the issue and I urge my readers to read every word he has written.

    Attacks on Labor policy are taxing credibility

    Chris Bowen


    Robert Gottliebsen has again used his column on these pages to opine about Labor’s dividend imputation reforms.

    Now, lest I be misunderstood, let me be clear at the outset.

    I respect Mr Gottliebsen as a longstanding journalist and my disagreement with his arguments shouldn’t be seen by him or anyone else as personal attack on him. He is entitled to his views, but I am entitled to rebut them.

    And I say, respectfully, his arguments are confused and somewhat shrill.

    Read Robert Gottliebsen’s response to Chris Bowen here

    This time he has focused less on the economics of the issue and more on the politics.

    He argues that, if the election was delayed until November, the Liberals would be able to successfully campaign on this issue. Well, I appreciate his concern but let’s be clear: if Labor had only just announced this policy he may have a point.

    The policy was announced almost a year ago: last March. Just before the Batman by-election. Labor won the by-election with a swing to us. We then won the Longman, Perth and Braddon by-elections with swings to us.

    The Liberals ran hard on the imputation issue on the retiree-heavy Bribie Island. They were rewarded with a 10 per cent swing against them. They campaigned on the issue in the Wentworth and Mayo by-elections. They lost.

    Now let me be clear, the Labor Party has not one inch of complacency about the upcoming election.

    But nor do we fear a Liberal scare campaign.

    Because across Australia people, including many who will not be able to access refundable credits under Labor’s policy, both respect a political party that has the courage to put its policies out long before an election and also know that some of the tax concessions that favour higher wealth individuals simply can’t go on.

    In 2014-15, $5.9 billion was spent on refunding dividend imputation credits. The commonwealth government in the same year spent less than this on public schools ($5.2 billion).

    This can’t go on.

    Every time Mr Gottliebsen, Josh Frydenberg or anyone else draws attention to Labor’s plans, they increase the moral authority of our mandate, if we receive one, to pass this reform through the parliament.

    Now, Mr Gottliebsen then praises the original Paul Keating dividend imputation reforms which operated between 1987 and 2000. He calls it “brilliant policy”. I agree.

    That’s why I want to return dividend imputation to the original Keating model.

    Every criticism that is made of our policy would have to apply to the operation of the original Keating model.

    Mr Gottliebsen reckons our plan discriminates in favour of industry funds and has previously used emotive language about “union mates”.

    Well, put aside the fact industry funds are jointly managed by unions and employers. The fact is industry funds are treated the same way as retail and bank funds. And all these funds pay tax.

    Allowing them to use franking to offset that tax is a fundamental principle of avoiding double taxation.

    In fact, it is tax refunds to non-tax-paying SMSFs and individuals which is the anomaly in our tax system: no other element of our personal income tax system involves refundable credits. None.

    Finally Mr Gottliebsen has accused me of “telling Australians to invest overseas”.

    Mr Gottliebsen is entitled to his argument but he is not allowed to assert I have said things that I have not. I have not encouraged or recommended investors to do anything.

    What I have done is point out that if people are making investment decisions solely on the basis of franking credits, the tax system is then distorting investment when we are meant to ideally have a non-distortionary tax system.

    And, just yesterday, The Australian published comments from the University of Melbourne’s Professor Kevin Davis, formerly the chief economist of the government’s Financial Systems Inquiry, who commented on dividend imputation: “It wasn’t meant to lead to zero taxation of corporate income which occurs when dividends are paid to investors on zero marginal tax rates and rebates paid.

    “That has created a significant economic distortion and, while removing the rebate may be painful for those who have structured their investments to maximise gains from this tax arbitrage, such a change is warranted.”

    And just remember, 92 per cent of individual taxpayers are unaffected by Labor’s reforms to refundability and dividend imputation.

    Let me finish by inviting your readers to imagine a world, for the sake of the argument, in which every shareholder is a retired non-taxpayer.

    In this world, the tax office would collect tax at the prevailing corporate rate from business and then we would refund every single dollar to the company owners: the shareholders. The corporate tax rate would effectively be zero.

    Some people might think that’s a good thing. I don’t.

    And we’ll be asking the Australian people at the election to agree with us.

    Chris Bowen is the Australian Labor Party’s treasury spokesman.

  65. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Here you are, Cats, deconstruct this (from Zippy’s link above):

    Teaching gender is not indoctrination: it does not tell a person how to live; it opens up the possibility for young people to find their own way in a world that often confronts them with narrow and cruel social norms. To affirm gender diversity is therefore not destructive: it affirms human complexity and creates a space for people to find their own way within this complexity.
    The world of gender diversity and sexual complexity is not going away. It will only demand greater recognition for all those who seek to live out their gender or sexuality without stigma or the threat of violence. Those who fall outside the norm deserve to live in this world without fear, to love and to exist, and to seek to create a world more equitable and free of violence.
    Judith Butler is Maxine Elliot Professor of Comparative Literature at the University of California, Berkeley

    So – ‘opening up possibilities’ has nothing to do with indoctrination?
    Read the whole thing to get some idea of how academics use a ‘post-modern’ vision of their own ideologies to inflict a mish-mash of confused thinking, wish fulfilment, social engineering and empirical misinformation on the rest of us. Keep these people away from adolescent children, please, for children are very susceptible to cults of all sorts, including this one.

    One’s gender expression in every culture past and present is strongly related to one’s biological sex. There are aberrations and intersex people, and always have been, who should be treated sympathetically, but they are unusual exceptions, not the rule. Cultures express the two genders in varying ways, but all drawn upon the biological substrate to do so. Complete gender plasticity is a dream, constantly conflicting with biological realities. Do not tell our children otherwise, as you are certainly indoctrinating them if you do.

  66. Mater

    I bring enlightenment.

    I’d rather you bring electricity.

  67. Snoopy

    Their Zoe:

    Donald Trump has waved a rare white flag of surrender.

    And who made him do it? Nancy Pelosi.

  68. Hurry BOM doom merchants.
    The cool change is at Geelong. 10 degree drop in minutes.
    Melbourne Airport is your only chance. A few hot jet bursts might do it, fingers crossed.

  69. C.L.

    A DIVORCED mother who complained about the “toxic football culture’’ of private boys’ schools has won the right to send her son to a state high school.
    A judge ruled in the mother’s favour in a dispute with her ex-husband, who argued that a private education would give their 12-year-old son “routine, discipline and support’’.

    Having read the entire article (Courier Mail) I have little sympathy for either parent. The father is not religious and mum is an atheist. Despite this, dad wants the son to go to a Catholic school because private. The couple had planned to send him to a super-posh Anglican school but, following the divorce – and despite dad offering to pay half of the Catholic school fees – mum bailed altogether because she didn’t have the money to pay for excursions. The judge – needless to say – was a woman and mum’s brief cleverly chucked in some zeitgeist sewage about ‘toxic masculinity’ as a kind of ideological bribe. It worked, I guess. Mum is obviously a deadbeat who wants to keep the extra dosh and send junior to Shithole High. The sooner the lad gets away from both of them the better off he’ll be.

  70. Infidel Tiger

    I bring enlightenment.

    And genital warts.

  71. JC

    Harksie

    The latest “science” from the US government stated that the US economy would be adversely impacted by 10% at the 2100 GDP level. Considering that the expectation is the US economy will grow by about 7 times then to what it is now, Gerbiling is a rounding error. Wh0 cares, except an Arts graduate from the UWS. Bugger off.

  72. Infidel Tiger

    Saddened to hear that Melbourne is cooling down.

    Eternal damnation and hellfire is what that sinful city deserves.

    Let it burn.

  73. Bruce of Newcastle

    Maybe because, I dunno, most people, fortunately, believe science consensus?

    Hark – Is that anything like the scientific consensus that the Sun revolves around the Earth, or the one about continents not moving, or maybe like the one where stress causes stomach ulcers?

    You still haven’t told me how a 10% rise in pCO2 can cause snow extent trend to be flat as a pancake for more than 2 decades.

  74. min

    Msdolittle I am 2 blocks down the road from you and no blackout although my friend half way between has a blackout. Is this because my apartment block installed solar panels a month ago?

  75. Stimpson J. Cat

    Teaching gender is not indoctrination: it does not tell a person how to live; it opens up the possibility for young people to find their own way in a world that often confronts them with narrow and cruel social norms. To affirm gender diversity is therefore not destructive: it affirms human complexity and creates a space for people to find their own way within this complexity.
    The world of gender diversity and sexual complexity is not going away. It will only demand greater recognition for all those who seek to live out their gender or sexuality without stigma or the threat of violence. Those who fall outside the norm deserve to live in this world without fear, to love and to exist, and to seek to create a world more equitable and free of violence.

    Acceptable kid f$cking.
    That’s the endgame.
    That’s what this is all about.
    Tell me I’m wrong.

  76. C.L.

    Their Zoe:

    Donald Trump has waved a rare white flag of surrender.

    And who made him do it? Nancy Pelosi.

    I just read that article and literally laughed out loud.

  77. Mater

    Hahahaaa

    Among the many people who have been load shedded, there are 4,500 in Northcote

    Complete list here. If it lists the cause as ‘Forced External’, it means that they have been deliberately shedded.

    Remember, this is just those in the CitiPower/Powercor area.

  78. C.L.

    Di Natale laughs at Victorians and laughs about the people who will die today:

    Coal is to blame: Di Natale

    Greens leader Richard Di Natale says those complaining about power outages should think about the “sacrifices made during wartime”.

    The Australian

  79. The A.D.

    Fecking hot in Hawthorn

    ..
    Go for a run.

  80. Melbourne Airport has hit 44.
    Go you good thing!

  81. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #2917093, posted on January 25, 2019 at 1:34 pm

    Saddened to hear that Melbourne is cooling down.

    Eternal damnation and hellfire is what that sinful city deserves.

    Let it burn.

    And the government that took out a coal plant was elected with an increased majority. Think about that! The libs managed to hold the seat of Brighton, which has been blue since Moses, with a hair width majority. The liar party candidate was a gap year student.

    There are blackouts all over the city.

    And Harksie, our Arts graduate from UWS is peddling gerbiling and ruinables. Think about that too.

  82. Mother Lode

    What was the Melbourne forecast?

  83. Mother Lode

    Is Farkin’ in Melbourne?

  84. JC

    It’s a nice very pleasant 28 degs down the peninsula. Might go for beach swim if it holds up a little later on.

  85. OldOzzie

    Editorials Is China’s 40-Year Boom Coming To An End?

    China: Is China’s economic miracle coming to an end? It sure looks that way. Recent data and startling demographic changes portend much slower economic growth down the not-so-silken road to the future. Can China reverse the slide? Maybe not.

  86. thefrollickingmole

    C.L.
    #2917070, posted on January 25, 2019 at 1:16 pm
    Consider this: the Liberal Party couldn’t turn the left’s climate change dogma against them, despite the fact that the country no longer has enough electricity. That wasn’t a winner for them.

    Its been a winner for the Spivs and chancers who have been able to “invest” in green schemes/companies which then benefit from government grants.

  87. Muddy:

    Muddy
    #2916411, posted on January 24, 2019 at 8:07 pm
    an underground of sorts forming.
    Some of us have been devoting thought to that topic for quite some time, Struth.
    Though if and how it would work in a practical sense is another, knottier, issue.

    The three man team is an excellent way to organise a network. Each person finds two like minded individuals and they plan together. Do not use electronic or postal means to communicate. Face to face only. Make sure all electronic items/watches/etc are removed from area.

  88. slackster

    Sacrificing 60k customers to keep the rest of the state up

    3rd world s#hithole incoming

    “”The energy market operator says it is enforcing blackouts for at least 60,000 customers to avoid a state-wide outage.””

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-heatwave-extreme-heat-to-smash-records-across-victoria-cause-power-outages-20190125-p50tjj.html

  89. Speedbox

    struth
    #2916843, posted on January 25, 2019 at 9:17 am

    Absolutely true. In fact, once upon a time, many of the countries major corporations were also head-quartered in Adelaide – as a corporate centre, Adelaide easily out shone Melbourne.

    The Adelaide Club was a literal who’s who of the nation’s most powerful. Even in sports such as cricket, Adelaide was bolstered in national prestige as Sir Donald Bradman lived in the leafy eastern suburbs.

    Back in the day, Adelaide was a powerhouse.

  90. Infidel Tiger

    Greens leader Richard Di Natale says those complaining about power outages should think about the “sacrifices made during wartime”.

    Other things they should think about is how we shot millions of Nazis during wartime.

  91. The A.D.

    The three man team is an excellent way to organise a network.

    That worked well in the book you’re from, eh O’Brien?

  92. thefrollickingmole

    Democracy, good and hard.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jan/25/coal-plants-in-mix-for-coalitions-electricity-guarantee-but-victoria-attacks-new-bid

    Im sorry but you all have to sit in the heat and dark until you come to your senses.

    A mix of coal power plants, pumped hydro and gas-fired power have been presented to the federal government as options for its program to underwrite new electricity generation.

    But an ambitious $6bn plan by power baron Trevor St Baker for two new coal power plants has been criticised by the Victorian energy and environment minister, Lily D’Ambrosio, who said the bid proved the scheme was designed to boost fossil fuels.

    ….
    Labor’s climate spokesman, Mark Butler, said “industry, investors and the experts have all been clear – there is no appetite for investing in new coal-fired power stations”.

    New coal power plants “would provide relatively high levels of pollution, particularly if it is using brown coal from Victoria”.

    It would be completely inconsistent with our climate change commitments and it would require billions and billions of support from taxpayers.”

    D’Ambrosio said Victorians had overwhelmingly backed Labor’s commitment to increase Victoria’s renewable energy target to 50% by 2030.

    “Setting an ambitious renewable energy target will boost jobs and investment across regional Victoria, as well as drive down power prices for Victorian businesses and families,” she said.

    Its not what you wanted, but its what you apparently deserve.

  93. Will the record for Melbourne be smashed?
    In other news, suspicious types with horn rimmed glasses and pocket protectors seen buying butane torches.

  94. bespoke

    C.L.
    #2917089, posted on January 25, 2019 at 1:30 pm
    Having read the entire article (Courier Mail) I have little sympathy for either parent. The father is not religious and mum is an atheist

    Why is not being religious a test for deserving sympathy?

  95. JC

    “”The energy market operator says it is enforcing blackouts for at least 60,000 customers to avoid a state-wide outage.””

    Lol

  96. Infidel Tiger

    China: Is China’s economic miracle coming to an end? It sure looks that way. Recent data and startling demographic changes portend much slower economic growth down the not-so-silken road to the future. Can China reverse the slide? Maybe not.

    They literally aborted their future.

    Suck it.

  97. Eyrie

    Winston, networks can be rolled up. Lone wolves cannot.

  98. JC

    Where’s Alex Turnbull when we need him?

  99. C.L.

    Why is not being religious a test for deserving sympathy?

    It’s not, bone head. Whining about not being able to send your son to a Catholic school when you don’t believe in God certainly is. The mother wants the extra money and dad’s an insincere tosser.

  100. Zyconoclast

    You’re our first Cat victim of climate change.
    Prostrate yourself at the altar of climate truth and your powers will be restored.

    Perhaps, ‘prostrate yourself while your prostate is prodded and palpated by perfidious perverts’ is a more inviting proposition.
    For Gaia

  101. Infidel Tiger

    Back in the day, Adelaide was a powerhouse.

    Shifting the production in the state from industry and agriculture to pedofilia, murdering and ruinables hasn’t paid off yet, but too early to tell.

  102. The A.D.

    Why is not being religious a test for deserving sympathy?

    ..
    Because it’s your average godless smartarse type who brought all this crap down on us.
    Damn your eyes, all of you.
    We had a good thing.
    All you had to do was shut your idiot traps, go to church once a week for a cucumber sandwich and a cup of tea and put up with some kneeling and waffling from some innocuous old vicar.
    But noooooooo.
    That wasn’t sexy enough for you.
    Well, now you are going to get it.

  103. Infidel Tiger

    Where’s Alex Turnbull when we need him

    Managing a $40mn hobby fund that only produces $890,000 SGD in fees.

  104. JC

    Back in the day, Adelaide was a powerhouse.

    Sure was living on the back of import quotas and sky high tariffs. Unbeatable combo.

  105. Black Ball

    Don’t Blush Baby glowing. Needs less clothing

  106. JC

    I wonder if he was booted from the vampire squid? You do get a shot if daddy worked there, but they won’t keep you if you can’t produce.

  107. Mother Lode

    Still 29C in North Sydney, but the wind is supposed to be picking up which will be nice.

  108. bespoke

    Sorry C.L. I still don’t get it. Yes I’m a bone head 🙂

  109. I think there’s been a protest.
    BOM not posting the 2pm results yet.

  110. MatrixTransform

    I’d rather you bring electricity.

    Icy Poles mate, Frosty Fruits

  111. Elle:

    I won’t contribute any longer to a blog that houses a Holocaust denier and a supporter of the BDS movement.

    WWND?
    (Yes. A totally shameless effort to get your thinking back to a primal level.)

  112. Black Ball

    Still 29C in North Sydney, but the wind is supposed to be picking up which will be nice.

    So the desal plant will be fully operational then. Excellent news.

  113. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s not, bone head. Whining about not being able to send your son to a Catholic school when you don’t believe in God certainly is. The mother wants the extra money and dad’s an insincere tosser.

    Be Pure, Be Vigilant, Behave!!!

  114. Leigh Lowe

    OldOzzie

    #2917082, posted on January 25, 2019 at 1:24 pm

    But first I want to express my appreciation to Chris Bowen for his willingness to debate the issue and I urge my readers to read every word he has written.

    Bowen said the other day that the Liars policy would discourage pensioners from having too much exposure to high risk shares.
    Thanks, maaaate.
    Later on, when the power comes on, I will do some calcs on the investment mix of shares vs cash before you start getting a refund of franking credits.

  115. Stimpson J. Cat

    Has anyone in Victoria had an accidental head stuck in the freezer accident yet?

  116. Infidel Tiger

    FMD Harris.

    One of the worst shots I’ve ever seen.

  117. Laverton has fallen to the cool change.
    Panic and blowtorches at the BoM.

  118. Tel

    The father is not religious and mum is an atheist. Despite this, dad wants the son to go to a Catholic school because private.

    If there’s a car wash where everyone worships Enlil and believes that a gleaming car gives them a place in the afterlife … I’m happy to take my car there … don’t really have to agree with them, as long as they do a good job.

    If the other car wash is a union shop where they key your paintjob if they catch you with the radio tuned to Ray Hadley then I know I don’t want to take it there!

  119. JC

    Can we stop using putdowns like bonehead, boofhead, meathead, goofball etc. It’s not nice and not that sort of blog.

  120. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #2917103, posted on January 25, 2019 at 1:44 pm
    Infidel Tiger
    #2917093, posted on January 25, 2019 at 1:34 pm

    Saddened to hear that Melbourne is cooling down.

    Eternal damnation and hellfire is what that sinful city deserves.

    Let it burn.

    And the government that took out a coal plant was elected with an increased majority. Think about that! The libs managed to hold the seat of Brighton, which has been blue since Moses, with a hair width majority. The liar party candidate was a gap year student.

    There are blackouts all over the city.”

    Is there something in the water down there? Or was the opposition so inept and so labor lite that, given the paltry choice, many Victorians thought you may as well vote for the real Labor party?

  121. Eyrie

    Some alien being has taken over JC’s body.

  122. Mildura is stubbornly refusing to get above 43 to the forecast record of 47.
    Spoilsports.

  123. Greens leader Richard Di Natale says those complaining about power outages should think about the “sacrifices made during wartime”.

    Nice of the nonce to finally admit the left are at war with Western civilization.

  124. JC

    Di Natale should be deported.

  125. Louis

    Victorian Energy Minister Lily D’Ambrosio blaming “ageing coal-fired power stations” for unreliable power in Victoria!

  126. bespoke

    Di Natale supports conscription.

  127. It’s all over folks.
    Despite their very best efforts the cool change is in the city.
    Dreams of 46 degree record all smashed.

  128. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Greens leader Richard Di Natale says those complaining about power outages should think about the “sacrifices made during wartime”.

    the war on prosperity must go on!

  129. Tabitha

    First Q&A for 2019;

    Julia Banks
    Adam Bandt
    Andrew Wilkie
    Kerryn Phelps
    Rebekha Sharkie

    Taste the diversity

  130. Louis

    @ JC
    What about ‘surrender-monkey’? Can we still use that putdown?

  131. Leigh Lowe

    Managing a $40mn hobby fund that only produces $890,000 SGD in fees.

    That probably only pays the restaurant bills for Alex, two mates from school and a local PA.
    Buy, FFS, paying a fund manager 3% straight off the top is a bit of heavy freight.
    Wouldn’t be Chinese businessmen playing the Crimtom Foundation game on a smaller scale?
    I predict Alex will be folding the tent in Singers within a year.

  132. Black Ball

    Ah well Farmer Gez, always next week to try for some records.

  133. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #2917157, posted on January 25, 2019 at 2:15 pm
    Di Natale should be deported.”

    Yep…to Venezuela. The Italians wouldn’t have a bar of him.

  134. JC

    Victorian Energy Minister Lily D’Ambrosio blaming “ageing coal-fired power stations” for unreliable power in Victoria!

    Both Di Natale and “Lily” should be sent back.

    The reason the plants are aging, you fucking moron is that the assets are trashed from heaven to hell and the owners won’t risk large capital expenditures. That’s the reason.

  135. Leigh Lowe

    Armageddon reilef has arrived in Port Phillip.
    Heat porn show over.

  136. MsDolittle

    change is through. Apparently it’s 49 in the divi van up Gippsland way.

  137. calli

    If you’re in the market for an opinion editor with a huge and diverse rolodex, or a columnist with 10 years of writing about gender politics (and a literal PhD in romantic comedies) under her belt, talk to me.

    Is she a split personality, or are they possessed, or do we have two different people looking for work?

    Journalism style work.

    What is a literal PhD? Is it a PhD in literature?

    And does she carry the telephone book around in her purse?

    So many questions.

  138. JC

    Harksie, the USW Arts graduate, discussing the finer points of gerbaling. Lol

  139. calli

    It’s quite pleasant here in Port Stephens. And the power’s on.

    Might have a dip in the pool later. Snork.

  140. hzhousewife

    Gladys, you have an election coming up. You will harvest votes if you can promise that the aircon will stay on.

    I met Gladys personally this morning. My first point of issue was that the state of NSW should immediately approve a HELE coal fired power station (if not two of them), it was downright embarrassing that our state was buying electricity from other states when we had coal in such surplus. She and all the male entourage nodded.

  141. candy

    Di Natale’s au pairs on $6.00 per hour are certainly making sacrifices.

  142. Yep…to Venezuela. The Italians wouldn’t have a bar of him.

    Not Venezuela, too big a carbon footprint. North Korea is closer.
    They could do with some Doctors there.
    We could package him up with Phelps and get some orphans in return.

  143. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I bring enlightenment.

    You bring stupid.

  144. C.L.

    Be Pure, Be Vigilant, Behave!!!

    I’m not sure what this means.
    It’s not being “pure” to expect parents who don’t believe in God not to send their children to Catholic schools because of the uniforms and the excursions. Such parents are insincere assholes.

  145. Roonabaubles -> No fscken electricity.

    And Dan of the Dead can still convince the electorate that windmills are beautiful things.
    Make sure you flush Viktoristan twice.

  146. MsDolittle

    Might have a dip in the pool later. Snork.

    Me too. Wait, I have no power to retract the cover!!

  147. hzhousewife

    Victorian Energy Minister Lily D’Ambrosio blaming “ageing coal-fired power stations” for unreliable power in Victoria!

    To the extent that Victoria should have forseen that its coal-fired power stations would age, she’s quite right. New ones should have been brought on-line years ago!

  148. Top Ender

    Far-left activists have put up signs at historic Cook’s Cottage in Vic

    Far-left activists have put up signs reading “Rest in Piss Australia Day” and “Abolish Australia Day” at the historic Cooks’ Cottage in inner east Melbourne.

    The cottage was built in 1775 by Captain James Cook’s father and was brought to Fitzroy Garden’s in 1934. Cooks’ the oldest building in Australia.

    Activist group Whistleblowers, Activists and Citizens Alliance (WACA) put the signs up this morning at 9am when the landmark opened.

    WACA spokeswoman Charlotte Lynch said the actions were made in support of demands of Aboriginal solidarity at tomorrow’s Invasion Day rally.

    “We are making those demands in solidarity with Aboriginal people who are protesting tomorrow against the colonial narrative and the narrative of White Australia.” she said.

    Ms Lynch said the group did not consult with but undertook their actions in response to indigenous activist group Warriors of Aboriginal Resistance’s (WAR) call for seven days of resistance.

    “Although we are a group of non-indigenous people we did that to acknowledge sovereignty to speak out against a narrative that is destructive and racist.” she said.

    The signs read “Eviction notice: Unpaid rent 231 years”, “Abolish Australia” and “Rest in Peace Australia Day”.

    The group put up the same signs last year. In other words, they’re stuck for ideas. Boring and divisive.

    Link

  149. JC

    Tabitha
    #2917163, posted on January 25, 2019 at 2:19 pm

    First Q&A for 2019;

    Julia Banks
    Adam Bandt
    Andrew Wilkie
    Kerryn Phelps
    Rebekha Sharkie

    Taste the diversity

    Wilkie should be replaced with Dr. Katie Allen, my local lib candidate who will be in the top three contenders for fronting up Bane’s Court when its impaneled. The name just roles off the tongue.

    It would have been a great loss for the medical profession if she won her seat because how could Melbourne lose an Allergist of her expertise… one of the most demanding jobs in the medical profession.

  150. calli

    Covers are for cold climates.

    Double snork.

  151. Hang on just a minute.
    45.4 at Melbourne Airport.
    A couple of Chinese clunkers have roasted the Tarmac.

  152. calli

    The Little Thermometer That Couldn’t.

  153. Leigh Lowe

    It’s 24 degrees at Kingfish B.
    Although they often get the sea breeze there.

  154. Mater

    A little perspective:

    Melbourne this week (21st – 25th Jan 2019):

    Mon 21st – Max: 25.1 Min 18.4
    Tue 22nd – Max: 26.8 Min 19.0
    Wed 23rd – Max: 23.9 Min 18.7
    Thu 24th – Max 40.8 Min 17.3
    Fri 25th – Max 44 (and dropping rapidly) Min 21.1

    Melbourne (26th – 30th Jan 2009)

    Mon 26th – Max: 25.5 Min 14.4
    Tue 27th – Max: 36.4 Min 16.6
    Wed 28th – Max: 43.4 Min 18.8
    Thu 29th – Max 44.3 Min 25.7
    Fri 30th – Max 45.1 Min 25.7

    Can they please stop with the histrionics!

  155. MsDolittle

    Covers are for cold climates.

    Awwh have a heart.

  156. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m not sure what this means.
    It’s not being “pure” to expect parents who don’t believe in God not to send their children to Catholic schools because of the uniforms and the excursions. Such parents are insincere assholes.

    I refuse to explain a 2000AD reference/joke on this website.
    It is unseemly.

  157. Stimpson J. Cat

    Me too. Wait, I have no power to retract the cover!!

    Lots of journalists out there looking for jobs.
    Have a heart, ladies.

  158. Des Deskperson

    ‘Can we stop using putdowns like bonehead, boofhead, meathead, goofball etc. It’s not nice and not that sort of blog.’

    ‘Boofhead’ reminds me of that comic strip in, IIRC, the Sydney Daily Mirror when i was a kiddie in the sixties, a work of inverted genius:

    https://www.facebook.com/BoofheadComic/

    Lacking artistic merit – the drawings were flat and crude – and with lame and often second-hand jokes, I still though it was great stuff. From his haircut, I always assumed that the eponymous if mentally challenged hero was a contemporary sixties rocker, but apparently he had worn that haircut since the strip began in 1941.

  159. Leigh Lowe

    Mater

    #2917190, posted on January 25, 2019 at 2:34 pm

    A little perspective:

    Melbourne this week (21st – 25th Jan 2019):

    Mon 21st – Max: 25.1 Min 18.4
    Tue 22nd – Max: 26.8 Min 19.0
    Wed 23rd – Max: 23.9 Min 18.7
    Thu 24th – Max 40.8 Min 17.3
    Fri 25th – Max 44 (and dropping rapidly) Min 21.1

    Melbourne (26th – 30th Jan 2009)

    Mon 26th – Max: 25.5 Min 14.4
    Tue 27th – Max: 36.4 Min 16.6
    Wed 28th – Max: 43.4 Min 18.8
    Thu 29th – Max 44.3 Min 25.7
    Fri 30th – Max 45.1 Min 25.7

    Can they please stop with the histrionics!

    Not to mention 46.4 degrees in Melbourne on 9th February 2009 (Black Saturday).

  160. Leigh Lowe

    The Bureau of Mythology.

  161. struth

    I’ll only say this once, but honestly, compared to Harken, Monty is a frigging genius.

    Monty doesn’t believe the shit he dribbles, he’s just too gutless to not be a lefty.

    Harken is one brainwashed little mushroom.

  162. calli

    How can he be an “Australian” if he belonged to the Ku-Ring-Gai Nation?

    And if it wasn’t an aboriginal nation as we’re constantly being told, a more truthful descriptor would be “New South Welshman”.

    Sometimes they’re too cute for their own good.

  163. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here, knock yourself out

    LOL. Hark – He’s doing a trend from the 1970’s. What happened in the 1970’s? The global cooling scare happened in the 1970’s. So if you start then of course the snow cover extent falls.

    In actuality snow cover extent is almost certainly cyclic on a ~60 year period like the AMO (which is also NH based). I just drew my trend across the top of the sine wave. That guy is drawing it down the slope of a sine wave. Which is the true way to do it? The long term regression trend of a sine curve is flat, so I’m doing it correctly and he isn’t.

    Do you really think climate scientists, who are very interested in changing precipitation under AGW

    Snow cover extent isn’t much affected by changing precipitation, because it is a measure of the 0 C isotherm – the land area at or below 0 degrees. Therefore any amount of snow – even just a dusting – will show on the dataset I gave. It’s also a running average so variations in snow falls are averaged. It isn’t a measure of the amount of precipitation, it is a measure of how much land is below the freezing point of water…ie temperature. If the extent isn’t changing on average the temperature isn’t changing on average.

    But you knew all that didn’t you…

    (I’ll give you this, at least you tried and failed – which is better than not trying at all and playing the silly argument from authority game. Now you just have to falsify my argument, and you’ve won!)

  164. calli

    As one character is retired, another takes its place.

    More heads than the hydra.

  165. Megan

    We’ve been cut off the grid as well. Send me instructions for a backyard nuclear power station please.

  166. min

    Unlike me I do not think Di Natale lived here during the war . I don’t remember blackouts only no rice or pasta.
    I heard that no maintenance done by AGL at Louyang . Engineers really p###ed off . This happened at Hazelwood also.. But as Thomas Sowell reminds us facts and analysis are unimportant to lefties as long as it feels right or that Ortez woman says morally right is better than factually right.

  167. Snoopy

    ‘Boofhead’ reminds me of that comic strip in, IIRC, the Sydney Daily Mirror when i was a kiddie in the sixties, a work of inverted genius:

    My favourite Boofhead strip was one where he put his jacket on back-to-front before riding his bike on a very cold day. Of course he gets knocked off his bike by a motorist who tells the cops, “He seemed okay until I turned his head around the right way”.

  168. Ros

    For some lighter stuff Ms Bishop, Ms Wintour and CEO ANZ Elliott. He rates a mention not because dribbled on about what a great woman Vogue Bully Wintour is but because he spent shareholders and customers money entertaining assorted oxygen stealing celebrities to a brunch for the tennis at which they p****** on our PM. Then there was Bishop informing all of us who weren’t invited to the brunch that the whole theme of the day was about embracing equality and diversity, and I thought that she had some pretty pertinent points to make,” Brunch, day? Is that what the Australian Open is now about. The AO Inspirational Series, the tail wagging the dog.

    “SOME TIME AGO ANNA SPOKE ABOUT ‘NOT JUST PLAYING THE GAME, BUT REDEFINING IT’, WHICH IS ONE WAY YOU COULD DESCRIBE HER OWN SUCCESS.”
    Craig Tiley, Australian Open Tournament Director and a founding member of Male Champions of Change Sport. And creator of this great day for great people to smile upon the entertainers on the court.

    And from the horse’s mouth herself,
    “Personally, though, I have been most inspired over the past year by women, people of colour, and young people being bold, standing up, telling their stories, and outlining paths toward a different future. They weren’t in power, but they have become leaders by daring to speak up. It is better to engage than to step back. We can move forward and together, or backward in division. Tennis gives us a clue, I think, which of these is the better game.””

    Petty of me but the website for the big do on diversity and equality is headlined by a close up of Wintour. It exemplifies the utter derangement of these folk, this woman is 69, the picture literally says about 12, 2 tiny creases at the corners of her mouth.

    But the really fun bit is what she said, glowingly reported by Vogue Australia. In passing even though she is known as “Anna” none would be allowed to address her so.

    “In fashion—not exactly an enterprise adjacent to American government—we did what we did best, selling remarkable clothes, to raise money to fight AIDS; for Breast Cancer and for LGBTQ rights…”

    Oh God oh God oh God, tell me it isn’t so. That she didn’t say that and if she did they booed her.

    Fyi “Burberry burns bags, clothes and perfume worth millions. Burberry, the upmarket British fashion label, destroyed unsold clothes, accessories and perfume worth £28.6m last year to protect its brand. … Burberry said that the energy generated from burning its products was captured, making it environmentally friendly.Jul 19, 2018”. All the energy captured, they are high on something. Presumably the energy expended in making these clothes also somehow benefits the climate.

    And then there is why she was invited by the CEO now carefully caring for his shareholders funds, she is the Key Architect of Soft Power, in the world. Who knew that?

    To help you get it,

    “Such is the totemic power of the idea of Anna – she is always referred to by her first name, although everyone abides by an unwritten rule that only her inner circle ever address her in person –
    She is the key architect of one of the prime aesthetics of our era, which is that of soft power. She has always been as much about power as she is about fashion, and her biggest impact has been on the clothes we see on television screens and newspaper front pages, not on catwalks.

    And how did she become that,
    Canonically, soft power stands on three cornerstones: culture, values, and foreign policies.32 At a time when these elements were increasingly interconnected through the “American influence” that various American political entities were spreading worldwide and propelling through a carefully crafted image,33 fashion became a part of such an influence, thus finding itself at the confluence of political, economic, and cultural stakes. Its original commercial purpose, amplified by the switch from a traditional structure to the supremacy of ready-to-wear, made it ideal to participate in enhancing the desirability of American products, thus glamorizing the image of the US. In the bipolar context of the Cold War, but mostly in an increasingly complex search for global dominance, adhesion to a certain lifestyle and a common ideal had to prevail, and thus be sanctioned by purchases, a more and more sanctified activity…..

    Diversity, turned into a model by the revival of dissent and integrated to the American myths, exalted rather than comprehended difference. It is in this context that multiculturalism replaced the melting-pot ideology, and that former hierarchies were reversed. Fashion, where creative, economic, social, political, and diplomatic stakes meet, did more than exemplify this phenomenon: it incarnated it. “Eclecticism allows for a combination of genres, of object categories, of attributes, of feelings, in order to reverse all forms of established hierarchies and lift the last inhibitions. It ultimately serves the unfurling of new forms of consumption, as when culture is used in a metonymic way,”

    So it is obvious why Bishop and Elliott and the rest of our betters worship the Devil of Pravda. They are totally insane narcissists scrambling all over each, desperately seeking relevance, and celebrity.

    As Kevin Bruni of the NYT says it so well of another moment of gross Elite selfishness,

    “A crowd was forming and the clock was ticking and nobody wanted to be late to the inquisition.….
    To glance at Twitter as the video of the Covington teenagers went viral over the weekend was to see each pundit one-upping the disdain of the pundits who vented before him or her. It was also to wonder about the degree of preening and performance involved. They weren’t merely spreading the word of what had supposedly happened in Washington. They were seizing the opportunity for a fresh and full-throated reminder of their own morality and politics.”

  169. BoM now searching the State for small towns breaking all time records.
    Swan Hills a chance. 46.3
    Has anyone noticed the weather site readings have gone from half hours to six minute intervals?
    A smell of desperation.

  170. Roger

    Three hours after AEMO chief Audrey Zibelman assured Neil Mitchell the power network was coping “really well” the market regulator ordered load shedding.

    It would be a worthwhile project for an economist to work out what this idiocy costs us this year, starting with her salary.

  171. dover_beach

    Liberals stir the culture war pot but who’s listening?

    The liberal switcheroo. Push for this or that change and at the first hint of criticism pretend that these are the first shots of a culture war.

  172. thefrollickingmole

    Never met a failed lefty dictatorship they couldnt excuse…
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/24/risk-catastrophic-us-intervention-venezuela

    By declaring himself Venezuela’s president on Wednesday, Juan Guaidó has brought Venezuela to the edge of catastrophe.

  173. DrBeauGan

    Infidel Tiger
    #2917025, posted on January 25, 2019 at 12:46 pm
    Chloe Angyal
    @ChloeAngyal
    Ex- @HuffPost Deputy Opinion Editor
    Like so many talented and lovely journalists, I was laid off today.
    If you’re in the market for an opinion editor with a huge and diverse rolodex, or a columnist with 10 years of writing about gender politics (and a literal PhD in romantic comedies) under her belt, talk to me.

    Learn. To. Code,

    Better still, find a man to support you.

    A PhD in romcom might help her find a man, though one in pole dancing would have been better.

    And the poor bloke had better be prepared for post coital lectures on toxic masculinity.

  174. EvilElvis

    Southwest, WA. Second major power outage this week. Making it hard to run a business…

  175. Eyrie

    BoN, I’m far more impressed by proxies like the zero deg isotherm than by any instrumental or satellite record.

  176. C.L.

    By declaring himself Venezuela’s president on Wednesday, Juan Guaidó has brought Venezuela to the edge of catastrophe.

    Mmyeah, Guaidó’s declaration did that.
    These people are so dishonest it’s almost un-human.

  177. Here, knock yourself out

    Good work there BoN
    Maybe Hark would like to see what happens when you pick a start date in the 1930’s. Flattens the old slope out nicely.

  178. Roger

    By declaring himself Venezuela’s president on Wednesday, Juan Guaidó has brought Venezuela to the edge of catastrophe.

    The average Venezuelan might aver that they’ve been experiencing a socialism induced catastrophe for some time now.

  179. dover_beach

    Someone put up a link to a twitter page yesterday that was supposed to detail how the left wins and the Right loses every major cultural shit fight.

    This is bullshit. Two of the biggest wins for the left – abortion and homo marriage were gained in the Supreme Court.

    JC, if you don’t think the Left changed the culture in the preceding decade or two to make the changes that were finally capstoned by the Supreme Court in both Roe and Obergefell you are badly mistaken. Those two decisions didn’t just appear out of thin air. The beginnings of Roe were in Griswold, and out of this jurisprudence, that is never divorced from the culture, we moved through Lawrence to end in Obergefell.

  180. DrBeauGan

    I guess, BoN, that if you keep educating Harken in your patient way, he might come to start grasping the extent of his ignorance. And then he might shut up and start learning something about science.

    But I doubt it.

  181. Mater

    Three hours after AEMO chief Audrey Zibelman assured Neil Mitchell the power network was coping “really well” the market regulator ordered load shedding.

    It seems like an appropriate time for a reminder:

    A Dead Man Warns of a Dying Grid

  182. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Here, knock yourself out:

    That paper is full of data uncertainties and at the end gets really quite hysterical. 3.7degrees of warming by the end of the century is one of the more extreme and largely unendorsed climate ‘models’.
    Very assumption led.
    I’ve read similar things using large population datasets on the aetiology, incidence and prevalence of cardiovascular disease, when the plain answer is that no-one knows the full picture yet. So many factors have to come into consideration and adjusting for problems in the data collection is also suspect (as the paper does at least recognize re manipulated snowfall data ‘subsets’). Thus in cardiovascular disease a clinical epidemiology is often a required supplementation, and that has its own scientific problems.

    Science is rarely completely settled, Hark, and in the climate field cherry pickers are rife. Some limited climatic change there may be (natural change happens), some shifting patterns in snowfall that may (only may) indicate an overall decline, but anthropogenic changes? That still lies in the category of ‘not shown’.

    Also, don’t be blinded by statistics; they are blunt instruments, often indicative and helpful but only as good as the data and the way in which data points are gathered, aggregated, analysed and presented. I am not making a full critique of this paper, as it is not in my field, but general first principles of caution always apply and I see some flags for caution in my quick glance over it. It encompasses a very broad canvas for a start.

  183. C.L.

    Florida’s secretary of state Michael Ertel resigns over Hurricane Katrina blackface photos.

    Um, OK.
    But this; this is pushing the envelope even for outrage-a-day left:

    At a press conference on hurricane relief in Marianna, Governor DeSantis [R] said he had accepted Mr Ertel’s resignation…

    Mr DeSantis, who has weathered his own accusations of racial insensitivity after telling voters to consider Florida’s economy and not “monkey this up”, said he did not want to get “mired into kind of side controversies”.

    Whenever the world “monkey” appears, white liberals immediately think of black people.
    Every. Time.

  184. Three hours after AEMO chief Audrey Zibelman assured Neil Mitchell the power network was coping “really well” the market regulator ordered load shedding.

    Aaaahhh yes. The Turnbull appointee from the U.S; apparently there was nobody qualified in Aus, so short of qualified people that we take a Yank lawyer with zero science background to run our electricity market.

    We’re so lucky such a qualified person was available, we can only thank Trump for this as, had Hillary won, Zibelman was pencilled in to run the Department of Energy in the Clinton Crime Syndicate.

    Seriously, how did AEMO get a work visa for this corruptocrat?

  185. ‘It changed the way Australia is’: Australian of the Year backs January 26 date

    Hurrah! The outgoing AoTY is the first one for a while that actually has a pair. Definitely tougher than that high-heel wearing toyboy or the one who got her son murdered and then played the victim.

  186. DrBeauGan

    You’ve Got To Love The New Britain.

    Hate crime

    I hate it.

  187. Memoryvault

    We’ve been cut off the grid as well. Send me instructions for a backyard nuclear power station please.

    Can’t help you with your nuclear power station, Megan. But this worked for us:

    Step One – buy a reasonable size petrol generator .
    Step Two – convert it, or have it converted to run on LPG gas.
    Step three – whenever you’ve got a spare $60.00, pick up another gas bottle from Bunnings.

  188. Bruce of Newcastle

    You’ve Got To Love The New Britain.

    A hate incident is behaviour which isn’t a crime but which is perceived by the victim, or anybody else, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on the 5 protected characteristics.

    We’ve had that since 1995

  189. Stimpson J. Cat

    I hate it.

    Enough with the Hate Incidents™ please.
    Don’t make me upgrade this to a Hate Crime© for Hating the Hate Crime© legislation.
    You know I’ll do it.

  190. DrBeauGan

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2917243, posted on January 25, 2019 at 3:37 pm
    You’ve Got To Love The New Britain.

    A hate incident is behaviour which isn’t a crime but which is perceived by the victim, or anybody else, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on the 5 protected characteristics.

    We’ve had that since 1995…

    And anyone who seriously thinks that making it illegal to dislike foreigners, poofs and trannies is going to make everyone tolerant is an idiot. It will have the opposite effect..

  191. Stimpson J. Cat

    We’ve had that since 1995…

    I don’t know if Transgender is a Race, Bruce.
    Don’t make this into a Hate Incident.

  192. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I just drew my trend across the top of the sine wave. That guy is drawing it down the slope of a sine wave. Which is the true way to do it? The long term regression trend of a sine curve is flat, so I’m doing it correctly and he isn’t.

    You’re stirring long lost memories in me there, Bruce, of when I was very on top of all this stuff. I thought I smelled a statistical rat. The whole paper smacks to me of cherry picking and major problems with data and methods, as I implied before I scrolled up to read your very adept smack-down of Harken – whenever they start in the 70’s you have to be suspicious.

  193. DrBeauGan

    And anyone who seriously thinks that making it illegal to dislike foreigners, poofs and trannies is going to make everyone tolerant is an idiot. It will have the opposite effect..

    That has already started. People who used to tolerate various weirdos now see them as running triumphant, and are starting to loathe them.

  194. Stimpson J. Cat

    People who used to tolerate various weirdos now see them as running triumphant, and are starting to loathe them.

    Yep.
    It’s exactly like fat people in activewear and cyclists.
    It’s out of control.

  195. calli

    A hate incident is behaviour which isn’t a crime but which is perceived by the victim, or anybody else to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on the 5 protected characteristics.

    Outrageous Outrage By Proxy.

    If you missed it we’ll find it!

    Just because you don’t feel offended doesn’t mean you aren’t! Let us help you into a suitably victimised, litigous frame of mind.

  196. Memoryvault

    All this controversy over the date of “Australia Day”.
    If we had a single conservative politician with any sort of backbone, the answer would be simple.

    Henceforth January 26 will cease being a gazetted public for everybody. Instead, it will renamed “National Invasion Day” and will only be a paid holiday for people accredited as being of Indigenous heritage. Everyone else goes to work.

    At the same time, “Australia Day” will be moved to the first Tuesday in November, and will be a paid public holiday for everybody except those who qualified to celebrate Invasion Day, who must work.

    What’s not to like?

  197. DrBeauGan

    Yep.
    It’s exactly like fat people in activewear and cyclists.
    It’s out of control.

    You pass a law saying we’re not allowed to say rude things about mamils and see how much worse it will get.

  198. Des Deskperson

    Snoopy, one of my favourite Boofhead strips was the one where his mother – allways depicted as a shapeless fat flat woman who had looked like she had been run over by a steamroller – asked him to test whether her cake was cooked by sticking a knife into it and seeing if the knife came out clean.

    He reported back that it came out so clean that he stuck all the other dirty knives in the cake as well.

  199. Stimpson J. Cat

    The solution to the Australia Day issue is not changing the day.
    It is adding more days.

    We need to have :

    Australia Day,
    followed by
    Sorry Day,
    followed by
    Aboriginal Day,
    followed by
    Gay Day,
    followed by
    Lesbian Day,
    followed by
    Mental Illness Day.

  200. cohenite

    All this controversy over the date of “Australia Day”.
    If we had a single conservative politician with any sort of backbone, the answer would be simple.

    Where are Fraser Anning and Pauline?

  201. Old School Conservative

    JC
    #2917262, posted on January 25, 2019 at 3:59 pm
    Lol

    Lots Of Love?
    You are mellowing JC.
    Respect.

  202. Siltstone

    Adding more days:
    Virtue Signal Day

  203. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Im sorry but you all have to sit in the heat and dark until YOUR FREEZER CONTENTS MELT AND you come to your senses.

    Just thought I’d add that little something extra to get Victorians to regret their stupid vote.
    Vote in a new coal-fired power station, you numpties. Once the market subsidies are off ruinables you will be rich and free and capital will flow in to build the plant. And then another one.
    What’s not to like?

    In the meantime, sorry about the soggy mess, but it’s a self-inflicted wound. Like your lost jobs.
    And you can be nasty back to us when our gormless pollies bring us the same fate.
    Nationally.

  204. Memoryvault

    Where are Fraser Anning and Pauline?

    Too early to tell which way the wind blows with Fraser. Hanson is now a just a player in the game that passes as politics in this country, and can be discounted.

  205. Megan

    Can’t help you with your nuclear power station, Megan. But this worked for us:

    Step One – buy a reasonable size petrol generator .
    Step Two – convert it, or have it converted to run on LPG gas.
    Step three – whenever you’ve got a spare $60.00, pick up another gas bottle from Bunnings.

    Thanks MV. We were looking at putting in a proper gas generator during the Renovation From Hell but it was pretty pricey. Your solution sounds like a much better and more affordable option.
    4

  206. Stimpson J. Cat

    Step three – whenever you’ve got a spare $60.00, pick up another gas bottle from Bunnings.

    Don’t do this.
    This is from the Gay Van Bombers manifesto.
    Abort!

  207. cohenite

    Hark to Bruce: short answer to your snow extent meme was always obvious with a moment’s thought – it’s not the simple proxy for early stage AGW that you think it is. Do you really think climate scientists, who are very interested in changing precipitation under AGW, are just ignoring a simple proof that AGW is not happening? Yeah, sure.

    Here, knock yourself out:

    BoN has answered the troll’s riposte but it reminds me of the Kilimanjaro snowfree controversy which was bullshit; and then there were the polar bears declining, more bullshit; in fact the troll should go away and come back with ONE, just one fucking prediction made by alarmism which has been vindicated.

  208. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Southwest, WA. Second major power outage this week. Making it hard to run a business…

    surely that’s the point, init?

  209. Megan

    I’m not a fan of gas. A consequence of burning my eyebrows and eyelashes off as a kid when the tiny gas heater in the lounge blew back at me as I approached it carefully with a match. I see Stimpy’s point.

  210. Memoryvault

    but it was pretty pricey.

    You can pick up a decent sized one, with a 4 stroke Briggs and Stratton engine, for under $900.00. I got mine second hand on Gumtree, for half that price.

  211. JC

    Have always been the mellow type, old school.

    It’s actually hilarious there’s someone here serious about our Pauline being the foundation stone of conservativism. Thank God, I’m not one as the embarrassment would be hard to take.

  212. Memoryvault

    I’m not a fan of gas.

    That was not the fault of the gas, Megan. Any gas flame that goes out like that should be turned off and left for a period of time, before attempting to relight.

    I too learned this lesson the hard way.

  213. Stimpson J. Cat

    A consequence of burning my eyebrows and eyelashes off as a kid when the tiny gas heater in the lounge blew back at me as I approached it carefully with a match. I see Stimpy’s point.

    Mine was from deodorant can makeshift flamethrower wars.
    I like to think I have grown and matured as a person since then.
    😁

  214. JC

    Megan

    Buy a small capstone unit. They make the best turbine. The smallest one is fine.

    That about does it for me. Our city place went out and I’m getting a battery, because the electronics could end up being rooted with power outs. You can lose things like regular ovens etc. and pretty much all else.

  215. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    and a literal PhD in romantic comedies
    LOL she thinks this is marketable

    She’d be good for Mills & Boon. She should get in touch with EvilElvis.
    He could give her a few pointers.
    No so much of the comedy, I’d advise.
    Women have to thrill to the pulse of it all, not laugh at its absurdity. Laughing in the face of life’s reproductive mechanisms tend to put men off, and if they wilt, well, the plot is lost for our female readers.

  216. Eyrie

    Capstone is way overkill, JC. You do not need 30kW which is the smallest one.

  217. calli

    Get surge protectors on everything. And not the cheapies either.

  218. calli

    Trigger Warning: Nice banner!

  219. Tel

    How long before He Wrong Mush wakes up and offers to sell some magic Lithium beans to the Victorians?

    I’ve seen reports of something like 60,000 households blacked out at some time today. Generally for a couple of hours each in rotation.

  220. Stimpson J. Cat

    JC can you please donate some more to Catallaxy so Sinc can buy some new fonts for the Banner?
    It looks a little cheap.

  221. Peter Campion

    I’ve seen reports of something like 60,000 households blacked out at some time today. Generally for a couple of hours each in rotation.

    But no cuts to suburbs with high rise or where the Greens vote is concentrated?

  222. Tel

    A consequence of burning my eyebrows and eyelashes off as a kid when the tiny gas heater in the lounge blew back at me as I approached it carefully with a match.

    That’s what you’ve got eyelashes for… to squint through while doing something dangerous with fire.

    Didn’t your mum teach you to hold the match at arm’s length? I can’t see us ever making progress in this country.

  223. JC

    It’s always good to overkill, Eyrie.

    I’ve owned the stock forever and it’s been a huge disappointment. I’m trying to get them a sale as anything would help.

    The local owner of the agency coincidentally lives a street away from me.

    I can’t understand the stock. They have a really good product – the best in the market but can’t gain traction.

  224. areff

    make that 100,000+, mine amongst them. Powercorp reckoned electricity would be restored by 6pm. Then 8pm. Typing this from Mum’s, whose home remains (for the moment) part of the 21st century.

  225. Eyrie

    Yeah, Capstone have some great technology and a really nice product. More suitable for homesteading in Alaska than backup power in Oz. For now. I can see neighbourhoods clubbing together to buy one in future.

  226. areff

    a Yank lawyer with zero science background to run our electricity market.

    Google her. A very dubious past.

  227. Eyrie

    “I’ve seen reports of something like 60,000 households blacked out at some time today. Generally for a couple of hours each in rotation.”
    Good that will learn them for voting Labor/Green.

  228. JC

    I tell you what, it’s not sexy or anything, but its a wonder the channel 9 camera guys haven’t been arrested. The upskirt shots are way overdone at the tennis.

  229. JC

    How much are they Eyrie… like a decent Capstone turbine.

  230. feelthebern

    GBPAUD just hit 1.85:1

  231. feelthebern

    Dan Andrews: Electricity is a privilege, not a right.

  232. Mater

    But no cuts to suburbs with high rise or where the Greens vote is concentrated?

    Not quite, Peter. There is a delicious irony here.
    The amount of demand that needs to be shed is divided up between all of the distribution companies on a ‘per customer’ basis – for fairness.
    However, because the CBD is exempt from load shedding, the rest of Citipower’s customers (not within the CBD boundaries) must take up the slack. Essentially, more of them are off and potentially for longer than anyone else in the state.
    This includes the inner suburbs such as Brunswick, Northcote, etc.
    This doesn’t apply to Powercor customers, as they are still considered separate networks.
    As I said, kind of ironic.

  233. OldOzzie

    Melbourne this week (21st – 25th Jan 2019):

    Mon 21st – Max: 25.1 Min 18.4
    Tue 22nd – Max: 26.8 Min 19.0
    Wed 23rd – Max: 23.9 Min 18.7
    Thu 24th – Max 40.8 Min 17.3
    Fri 25th – Max 44 (and dropping rapidly) Min 21.1

    Fri 25th – Max 42.8 01:38pm

  234. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    China charges Australian-Chinese writer Yang Hengjun with espionageAustralian-Chinese writer Yang Hengjun has been charged with espionage for “endangering China’s national security” and engaging in “criminal activities” after being detained in Beijing.

  235. Eyrie

    Dunno JC but as a guess I wouldn’t expect any change out of A$40k for the smallest.

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