What is the Democrat response to the Venezuelan counter-revolution?


MADURO ON BRINK?
USA RECOGNIZES GUAIDO AS PRESIDENT
BATTLE OF CARACAS

The news is a few hours old but I am still waiting for the reaction of any of the Democrats, and of course, Miss Ocasio-Cortez. The left are the bringers of misery and destruction. The most blatantly socialist regime in the world today. No one in their right mind could support such manifest horrors. But our Marxist-Progressive loons, and their brothers in the media and elsewhere, are so ideologically blind that the misery and harm of others is nothing compared with the misery they would feel having to give up their idiotic economic and political ideas. Unless you are personally relieved to see these efforts to rid Venezuela of its socialist experiment you are yourself as loony as the rest of your socialist confreres.

I cannot think the Dems have much choice other than to welcome the change in public, but I suspect whatever they might say, they do not believe it for a moment, not in their secret heart of hearts.

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27 Responses to What is the Democrat response to the Venezuelan counter-revolution?

  1. Fred

    But it’s not real socialism.

  2. Tel

    I would not say that Maduro is a good leader, neither was Saddam Husein, and Assad in Syria ain’t that great either (although from an economic perspective Maduro is noticeably worse than both Saddam and Assad).

    That said, is the USA really ready for yet another dirty war quagmire situation?

    If you interfere you won’t get thanked for it. Better to leave those people alone to think about their own problems and maybe solve something. The American government are terribly bad at nation building, they can’t even achieve simple jobs like wall building and maintaining their own borders.

  3. P

    This article of 18th December, 2018 reports:
    Russian media outlets are reporting that the Kremlin is planning to establish a forward outpost on the Venezuelan island of La Orchila

    I put up the above link to the article because I am reminded by these fact of the events of Oct 1962.

  4. Tom

    If you interfere you won’t get thanked for it. Better to leave those people alone to think about their own problems and maybe solve something. The American government are terribly bad at nation building, they can’t even achieve simple jobs like wall building and maintaining their own borders.

    Tel, there is plenty the Trump administration can do without directly intervening.

    Trump’s actions in the past days and hours have probably sealed Majuro’s fate: the Venezuelan public are so desperate they’re now in open defiance of the regime and I’d bet a full-scale military insurgency against the government is now on the cards.

    I’m tipping Venezuelans already regard Trump as a hero, which tells you everything you need to know about how the deranged US Democrats will treat the fall of Majuro — a desperate series of anti-Trump talking points blind to the suffering of the Venezuelan people.

  5. Myrddin Seren

    For those who don’t understand, here is a Before and after. #Venezuela

    Based on the Venezuelan model of Bolivaran Socialism, it appears the back of the Obesity Crisis in Oz will be broken soon by the ALP-ACTU-Greens Revolutionary Action Vanguards here.

    For the Proles anyway.

    You will note that, up until today, the biggest risk El Jefe Maduro and his clan faced was Type 2 Diabetes.

  6. What Tel said…

    Here’s the best link to the letter and a list of signatories, a few of which may now have second thoughts…

    https://andrewmcintyre.org/tag/abc/

    Dear President Chávez,

    We, the undersigned citizens of Australia, would like to extend a warm invitation for you to visit our country. We have watched developments in Venezuela with great interest. We have been impressed by the great effort that your government has taken to improve the living standards of the majority of Venezuelans. We have also noted with keen attention the moves that your government has begun to make to create a society based on popular participation in all spheres of society—from the workplace up to the national government.
    Although we are on the opposite side of the globe we feel that our shared ideals of social justice and democracy bring us close together. Every country has its own traditions and culture and has to find its own solutions, but what Venezuela has been able to achieve in so little time will be a source of inspiration and ideas for many in Australia.

    In this light we believe that a visit to our country by yourself would not only help to improve the awareness of the Australian people of developments in Venezuela, but also be an unparalleled opportunity to strengthen the ties of friendship and solidarity between our two peoples.

    Signatories to invite Chavez to Australia:

    Andrew Ferguson NSW Secretary, CFMEU Construction and General Division
    Angela Briant – Secretary Independent Education Union (Tasmania)
    Antony Loewenstein – Independent Journalist
    Brendan Hewson – President, Community & Public Sector Union /CSA
    Caroline Risely – Monash University Welfare Officer
    Carolyn Smith – Childcare Union Assistant Secretary, WA Liqor Hospitality Miscellaneous workers Union
    Casper Cumming – Swinborne Student Union President
    Charlotte Boss-Walker -Peace Activist (Tas)
    Chris Game – Secretary, NTEU NSW,
    Clare Ozich – Industrial Officer, Unions WA
    Craig Bulley – Worker’s Radio
    Craig Johnson – Cultural Studies, Macquarie University.
    Darren Mathewson – director of Organising CPSU
    Dave Robinson – Secretary, Unions WA
    David O’Bearne – Secretary LHMU (Tas)
    Deb Foskey – Greens Member of the Legislative Assembly (ACT)
    ******** Nichols – National Co-ordinator, Socialist Alliance
    Doreen Shenman – Peace Activist (Tas)
    Dr Alastair Grieg Senior Lecturer, Australian National University: Faculty of Arts
    Dr Coral Wynter – biochemist, Brisbane
    Dr Rhonda Forrest – Lecturer, Charles Sturt University
    Federico Fuentes – National Co-ordinator, Resistance socialist youth organisation
    Gavin Marshall – Senator (Victoria)
    Gil Anderson – Secretary ACT Branch LHMU
    Graham Pallot – organiser, CFMEU WA
    Ian Bray – WA assistant branch secretary, Maritime Union of Australia WA
    Ian Newman – Peace Activist (Tas)
    Jack Mundey – Environmentalist
    Jakalene X – Indigenous community activist
    Jenni Bond – Peace Activist (Tas)
    Jenny Forward – Organiser CPSU (Tasmania)
    Jim McIlroy – journalist, Brisbane
    Jim Mellor – Communications/Projects, CFMEU WA
    Jim Reid – organiser, CFMEU WA
    Joe McDonald – Assistant Secretary, CFMEU WA
    Joel Asphar – AMWU WA Organiser
    John Pilger – Independent Journalist
    Jose Munoz – Organiser ACT Branch LHMU
    Judith Pabian – President ACT Branch NTEU
    Keith Peckham – Industrial development officer, UnionsWA
    Kerry Nettle – Australian Greens Senator for NSW
    Kerryn Williams – Editor, Green Left Weekly
    Kevin Ennor – organiser, CFMEU WA
    Keysar Trad – Islamic Friendship Association
    Kiraz Janicke – National Co-ordinating Committee Australia-Venezuela Solidarity Network
    Lee Rhiannon – Member of the Legislative Council NSW (Greens)
    Len Palmer – Lecturer, Charles Sturt University
    Linda Briskman – Professor, Curtin Centre for Human Rights Education
    Linda Seaborn – Delegate HACSU
    Lisa MacDonald – National Co-ordinating Committee Australia-Venezuela Solidarity Network
    Mathew Chuk – General Secretary, National Union of Students 2007
    Megan Clement – Newcastle University Students Association, Education Officer 2006
    Meredith Burgmann – President of the Legislative Council of NSW
    Mick Baker – MUA WA organiser
    Mick Buchan – Organiser, CFMEU WA
    Mick Campion – President, NTEU Murdoch Univeristy Branch
    Naomi Arrowsmith – Australian Services Union, Assistant State Secretary (NSW)
    Natasha Stott-Despoja – SA Australian Democrats Senator
    Neil Mudford – Secretary ACT Branch NTEU
    Paul Halfpenny – WA Organiser, NTEU
    Paul Obohoov – Trade Union Voices Choir, ACTU
    Phillip Adams – Journalist, Republican of the Year 2005
    Raul Bassi – Transport Workers Union delegate, Sydney
    Reverend Alex Gator
    Robyn Francis -Permaculture Education, Erda Institute Inc
    Saeb Ali – Peace For Lebanon (Wollongong)
    Sam Watson – Indigenous Murri Activist
    Scott Poynting – Senior Lecturer in Sociology of Education, UWS
    Shelley Watson-Harris – Executive Officer, Unions WA
    Simon Cocker – Secretary, Unions Tasmania
    Steve Dargavel – Acting State Secretary, Australian Manufacturing Workers Union, Victoria.
    Steve McCartney – State President, AMWU WA
    Steven Arditto – Organiser CPSU (Tasmania)
    Susan Price – UNSW National Tertiary Education Union, Branch President
    Sylvia Hale – Member of the Legislative Council NSW (Greens)
    Thirza White – Campaign Coordinator UnionsWA
    Tim Anderson – Lecturer, Faculty of Economics and Business, University of Sydney
    Tim Gooden – Geelong Trades Hall Secretary
    Vinnie Molina Organiser, CFMEU WA
    Warren Mundine – National President of the ALP in 2006
    Warren Smith – Assistant Sydney Branch Secretary, Maritime Union of Australia
    Wayne Berry – MLA (ALP) Speaker of the ACT Legislative Assembly
    Wendy Jopson – Lecturer, University of Technology Sydney
    Yvette Berry – Organiser ACT Branch LHMU
    Peter Ross – Senior Lecturer, latin American Studies, UNSW

  7. What would the Democrats do? Like all Leftists, they’d simply dig in deeper, put hands over their ears and go La La La La La!

  8. Perfidious Albino

    The most blatantly socialist regime in the world today…

    Let’s not forget Victoria, Australia Steve…

  9. Squirrel

    There is, of course, a long history to this sort of blindness and denial of ugly realities – in April 1919, Lincoln Steffens wrote “I have seen the future, and it works”, following a visit to the Soviet Union – but it later was revealed that Steffens had coined that catchy phrase before he actually arrived in Russia.

  10. Bruce

    In this field, the old saying needs revision:

    Thus:

    “NEVER ascribe to ignorance and incompetence that which is CLEARLY CRIMINAL MALICE”.

  11. NuThink

    Zimbabwe is another shining light of Socialist progress. Chaos currently reigns in both countries.
    Was it not Malcolm Fraser who heavily promoted Mugabe to take over many moons ago?

    https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/opinion/editorials/2019-01-24-editorial-what-does-sa-do-about-zimbabwe/

  12. Leo G

    Based on the Venezuelan model of Bolivaran Socialism, it appears the back of the Obesity Crisis in Oz will be broken soon by the ALP-ACTU-Greens Revolutionary Action Vanguards here.

    SHY might yet be our Minister of Supreme Happiness.

  13. Tim Neilson

    Forester
    #2916182, posted on January 24, 2019 at 4:17 pm

    That list!

    FMD

    Apart from one woman who claims to be a biochemist, every single one of them is a politician, union official, academic, “journalist” or some self-styled type of grievance-monger.

    They must have collated the signatures during working hours on a normal weekday.

  14. Jonesy

    The new candidate for Gilmore should be asked about his views on South American politics. Heaven forbid the electorate unwittingly votes in an ultra wet hiding as a libertarian.

  15. wal1957

    Jonesy at 6:51pm

    The new candidate for Gilmore should be asked about his views on South American politics. Heaven forbid the electorate unwittingly votes in an ultra wet hiding as a libertarian.

    The Libs already have enough ‘ultra-wets’ in hiding!

  16. Shy Ted

    The response? Time to introduce AOC’ MMT aka Modern Monetary Theory aka Magical Money Tree. if you think things couldn’t get any worse.
    ANyway, as they’re bankrupt, cheap holidays…
    Or is that a comment on the socialist management?

  17. Louis

    News.com this morning was telling how Trump, like a bull in a china shop, had just caused kayos in Venezuela and a risk of war by recognising the leader of the opposition as President and that only Trump would be so stupid. Article gone now that other countries have recognised the leader of the opposition as President.

  18. Rohan

    Tel, there is plenty the Trump administration can do without directly intervening.

    I agree. All Trump has to say is were here to help with the transition to prosperity once you’ve booted the Marxists out. It’d put a new slant on the the first A in the #MAGA hashtag.

    #winning

  19. faceache

    I would like to see comparisons of East Germany and West Germany since 1945. I realise the Marshall Plan stuffs a comparison up somewhat but it would be interesting. Steve, Got anything on that?

  20. Bosnich

    Face ache ….having spent 3 years in what was then West Germany in the early sixties waiting for the Ivan’s to arrive I can assure you that none of the Germans who worked for the British forces …they were mainly Displaced persons from the East …had any inclination to go over to the ‘Workers Paradise’.

  21. Jeremy

    Warren Mundine – National President of the ALP in 2006
    Has anyone asked Mundine about this in relation to his anointment as a Liberal Candidate?

  22. Robber Baron

    Mundine looks and talks like an abbo, and clearly Liberal party polling (the same pollsters that suggested that Turnbull was a better leader than Abbott) suggests that conservative and swinging voters are screaming out for a former Labor party abbo. The polling does not lie!

  23. mh

    CNBC Davos headline:

    Lagarde: It would be very nice if countries don’t have to rely on central banks in the next crisis

    You have to laugh.

  24. Up The Workers!

    Given the shambolic state of maladministration in Dodgy Dan’s Misgovernment in Mogadishu-by-the-Yarra; the eponymous Bull Shitten’s Australian Liars Party (which he gillarded himself into the leadership of); Jeremy Corbyns’ British Labour Party; the Ku Klux Klintons’ hateful Dimocrats and Green parties everywhere, all socialist parties have taken a malignant turn to the hard, totalitarian Left in recent years.

    Has it been the corrosive influence of George Soros’s cash? Is there some other cause behind the feral leftard madness?

    It drove out the likes of Warren Mundine and Mark Latham, respectively the former Federal President and Federal Parliamentary Leader of the Party who have both come over to the conservative cause.

    One has to wonder, if the Second World War were to be fought today, just whose side would the hard-Left hate-mongers of the A.L.P. be on – their fellow Socialists (Nationalist Socialist Party) or their reviled Jewish citizens of the only democracy in the Middle East, that they so frequently vilify, propagandise and protest against.

    Between the Nationalist Socialists and the Communist Socialists in the last century alone it is estimated that some 195 million people were killed or murdered (i.e. 85 million in the Second World War and 110 million by Communism worldwide). So pervasive was death under communist regimes that it is referred to in R.J. Rummel’s book: “Death by Government”, not as “genocide”, but as “democide”.

    The figure above does not even take into account all the production-line peace-time deaths in First, Second and Third-World socialist-sponsored abortion abattoirs and human dismemberment centres which populate (or, more to the point, depopulate, our cities).

    What an attractive C.V. for an aspiring misgovernment to possess.

    Socialists?

    Sociopaths!

  25. Up The Workers!

    Given the shambolic state of maladministration in Dodgy Dan’s Misgovernment in Mogadishu-by-the-Yarra; the eponymous Bull Shitten’s Australian Liars Party (which he gillarded himself into the leadership of); Jeremy Corbyns’ British Labour Party; the Ku Klux Klintons’ hateful Dimocrats and Green parties everywhere, all socialist parties have taken a malignant turn to the hard, totalitarian Left in recent years.

    Has it been the corrosive influence of George Soros’s cash? Is there some other cause behind the feral leftard madness?

    It drove out the likes of Warren Mundine and Mark Latham, respectively the former Federal President and Federal Parliamentary Leader of the Party who have both come over to the conservative cause.

    One has to wonder, if the Second World War were to be fought today, just whose side would the hard-Left hate-mongers of the A.L.P. be on – their fellow Socialists (Nationalist Socialist Party) or their reviled Jewish citizens of the only democracy in the Middle East, that they so frequently vilify, propagandise and protest against.

    Between the Nationalist Socialists and the Communist Socialists in the last century alone it is estimated that some 195 million people were killed or murdered (i.e. 85 million in the Second World War and 110 million by Communism worldwide). So pervasive was death under communist regimes that it is referred to in R.J. Rummel’s book: “Death by Government”, not as “genocide”, but as “democide”.

    The figure above does not even take into account all the production-line peace-time deaths in First, Second and Third-World socialist-sponsored abortion abattoirs and human dismemberment centres which populate (or, more to the point, depopulate, our cities).

    What an attractive C.V. for an aspiring misgovernment to possess.

    Socialists? nah

    Sociopaths!

  26. Zatara

    I would like to see comparisons of East Germany and West Germany since 1945. I realise the Marshall Plan stuffs a comparison up somewhat but it would be interesting. Steve, Got anything on that?

    I can tell you that in 1990 if you walked East from Checkpoint Charlie, through the recently deactivated Berlin Wall, only the sides of the buildings visible to the West had been repaired. The Eastern facing walls all still bore the shell holes and bomb damage of 1945.

    The repairs were nothing but a facade attempting to fool the rest of the world. Truly lipstick on a pig.

  27. max

    Quote by H.L. Mencken:

    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”

    “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people.On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

    what happening in Venezuela, nothing to do with me or us — they need to solve their house by themselves

    if individual Australians want to be involved fine.

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