Open Forum: January 26, 2019

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  1. Cassie of Sydney

    Zali Steggall was born into upper middle class, north shore privilege, she is a member of the chicken family…Steggalls Chickens.

    Zali Steggall has lived on the north shore her whole life….a life of privilege….evidenced by her Olympic sport….snow skiing….a sport which in this country is a sport of the wealthy. You don’t get too many people living in Bankstown or Mt Druitt or Campbelltown….areas where people struggle to pay their power bills…. swanning down to Perisher or Thredbo skiing every year.

    Zali Steggall is now a barrister….which means that her sole yearly income is a lot more than the average combined income of a family living in say….Penrith or Campbelltown or Fairfield.

    Now, whilst I don’t necessarily hold any of this against her…I happen to not like hypocrites and I happen to particularly detest grandstanding hypocrites who live on Sydney’s north shore or Sydney’s eastern suburbs…people like Zali Steggall…show ponies whose only agendas are “hating Abbott” and “climate change”…a hypocrite who has taken on Flimsy Flannery (awful name calling again) as an adviser and who has the audacity to stand in front of fawning television cameras and babble, preach and pontificate about climate change and renewables…hmmm…..I wonder if Steggall the barrister struggles to pay rising power costs….hmmm…..I bet Steggall the barrister doesn’t.

    Steggall the chicken….Steggall the barrister….Steggall the hypocrite…..and I have so many other names to call her.

    Winter is coming….where people will die because they can’t afford their ever increasing power bills….the elderly won’t turn on their heaters…but hey…what’s a few dead people living out in the boondocks….when show pony rich hypocrites like Steggall the chicken can virtue signall about “climate change”.

  2. Caveman

    Steggall the chicken

    No policies just a platform of hate , fukme I live in the electorate.
    Sad if this area goes for this shit. I believe they wont.

    The only ones I can see supporting her hate are those living intransient suburbs like Manly (so similar to Bondi, rePhelps) ,all they have done is ask backpackers what they think.

  3. Cassie of Sydney

    “Farmer Gez
    #2919623, posted on January 28, 2019 at 10:58 am
    Hey!
    I bought a new Kelpie.
    Four years old and fully trained with some trial wins under her collar.
    A lovely girl but a bad name, Ranga. We’re going to see if we can get her to answer to Rita.
    Smartest worker on the farm.”

    Kelpies are beautiful…ferociously smart.

  4. Djokovic is the greates tennis player of all time.

    A shame he has a two handed backhand.

    They are mutually exclusive. Sorry, but it’s the big crybaby, Federer.

  5. Top Ender

    Michael Jackson doc Leaving Neverland is ‘disturbing and devastating’

    Will Jackson’s work become as shunned as Gary Glitter’s and Rolf Harris’s?

    Link

  6. Skews heavily to Islanders, Maoris and starting to see a lot of Indians with the same issue.
    Lot of Anglo butterb a l l s as well but not when you relate it to % of population.

    Maccas at Heatherbrae, full of skinny Aussies with sunburn, largely blonde. The fatties were all islanders and Indians passing through. Such a stark difference.

  7. Nick

    Will Jackson’s work become as shunned as Gary Glitter’s and Rolf Harris’s?

    That will depend upon his views on Trump and climate change.

  8. Tom

    Smartest worker on the farm.

    I’ve lived with kelpies since I was born. Best sheep dogs ever.

    The original kelpie in our family, Minnie, was so smart, she knew all the wrong turns the baa-lambs would take when we had to shift them from one farm to another, so she would go ahead and wait for them (to take a wrong turn).

    The last kelpie bitch we had, who died in 2012 (at 12 from a heart condition), had never worked on a farm, but knew instinctively how to round up sheep. Loved her to bits.

    Magical dogs.

  9. stackja

    Steggall chickens give us Zali.
    Inghams helped give Winx.

  10. Muddy

    I don’t think the spits and dribbles at 132andBush’s comment are warranted. I interpreted it to mean not that name-calling is bad, but that a more appropriate and effective nickname could be created.

  11. bespoke

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2919592, posted on January 28, 2019 at 10:09 am
    Cats with poor internet, and people with pricey phone data plans, will be in difficulty.

    Not really. The Cat is set up with minimum graphics and no imbedded advertising code. So a few YouTube’s is negligible unless your on dial up. But Ill avoid posting so soon after others just in case.

  12. Boambee John

    From 132andBush’s link

    Hugh Saddler, an honorary associate professor in the Crawford School of Public Policy at the Australian National University, said Friday’s outages should prompt Victoria’s electricity industry to put more effort into “demand response”.

    This means measures such as paying customers to allow authorities to turn off their air-conditioning compressors or pool pumps for short periods to reduce demand.

    He said this would be a much lower-cost way of avoiding the need for load shedding than building new power plants, which may be needed for only a few hours a year, and never in some years.

    Strangely, he saw no problems arising from reliance on intermittent, weather and time dependent, power generation systems that will never operate continuously throughout the year.

    PS, an earlier “expert” interviewed somehow seemed unaware that photovoltaic cells also lose efficiency at high temperatures.

  13. Sickening reading about why Vic power was lost last week, from Fairfax’s Weatherzone

    Stardate log 2037:

    The final battle of the CO2 war* is over.
    The enviro forces suffered a humiliating defeat when the batteries in their solar powered tanks failed leaving them stranded in Pt Piper and exposed to the heavy fire power of the turbocharged V8 tanks of the Forces of Reason.
    The Forces of Reason saw enviro troops crushed and driven before them and heard the lamentations of their women. Volunteers used pressure cleaners from Bunnings to clean the kale and smashed avocado from the tracks of the FoR tanks so that their advance was not impeded.
    The appointed NSW (now incorporating Viktoristan) governor has instigated a series of judicial panels to remove the last of the enviro infiltrators. The panels are famous for their leading question of “Are you or have you ever been a member of an enviro party?”.

    –end log
     
     

    *also known as the Climate War

  14. bespoke. The cat is fat (may be better on a mobile).
    I measured it some time ago and no longer have the numbers, but the bandwidth bite from a cat refresh is unfriendly.

  15. stackja

    NSW government spent $500k keeping revellers safe at ‘extreme risk’ music festivals
    Danielle Le Messurier, The Daily Telegraph
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    Health Minister Brad Hazzard has revealed the government has spent half a million dollars over the last 10 days on measures to keep revellers safe at three ‘extreme risk’ music festivals.

    Speaking in North Sydney this morning, Mr Hazzard confirmed 25 people between the ages of 16-25 were rushed to hospital across the three festivals over the weekend – the majority came from Saturday’s festival at Homebush.

    He said 14 of those required “extremely high level medical retrieval response on site”.

    Eight were taken to hospital in an induced coma and one remains on life support.

    And ‘festival’ organisers make money?

  16. John Constantine

    Smart Meter robots will be able to ration power to the deserving only, and in the near future.

    Comrades.

  17. Muddy

    Love your work, Rambler.
    Had you added that the bones of the vanquished were to be ground into powder and used as pig food, that would have been perfect.

  18. Ruthm

    Kelpies are great dogs. On a farm. I feel so sorry for the ones I come across in the suburbs. Also wary, as tey tend to chase with their eye teeth hanging out, not good if they happen to catch up with the chasee. For the chasee, that is.

  19. MatrixTransform

    photovoltaic cells also lose efficiency at high temperatures

    0.4 to 0.5 %/°C

    could easily remove something like 15% on a hot day

  20. Smart Meter robots will be able to ration power to the deserving only, and in the near future.

    No problemo. Hacking of Smart Meters is already widespread.

  21. JC

    From Bush’s link.

    These canutes actually paid Alocoa to close down their smelter. Even though I’m a leading expert in diagnosing mental illness, I can’t quite categorize this. We’re paying people not to run their businesses.

    It paid heavy energy users such as Alcoa’s aluminium smelter in Portland in western Victoria to power down, and encouraged consumers to conserve energy by delaying using appliances such as dishwashers.

    And then.

    But even after taking these measures, the operator did not have enough power to meet demand in Victoria, and turned to its last resort option of load shedding.

    What is load shedding?

    Load shedding is when power companies start switching off their customers’ power supply because the entire system is at risk.

    Just after midday, AEMO ordered electricity distributors to load shed, causing brownouts in different parts of the state on a rotating basis.

    Over the course of the afternoon, more than 200,000 customers experienced interruption to their power supply, with up to 100,000 customers being impacted at any one time.

    AEMO chief executive Audrey Zibelman said electricity distributors chose areas where demand was highest for load shedding, to achieve the maximum benefit of reduction in power use.

    Victoria’s Energy Minister Lily D’Ambrosio said most affected customers had their power interrupted for no more than an hour, but some parts of the state experienced outages of up to two hours.

    Will people be compensated?

    Ms D’Ambrosio said “typically” no compensation was made available when the market operator ordered power companies to load shed.

    They wheel out the academics “yet idiots” to borrow Taleb’s description.

    Is our power system up to scratch?

    Ms Zibelman said no country could afford “100 per cent reliability, over all hours and all circumstances”.

    Ariel Liebman, the deputy director of the Monash Energy Materials and Systems Institute (MEMSI) at Monash University, said while Friday’s outages were unfortunate for those who experienced them, they were in fact a demonstration of the grid operating in the way it was designed.

    “Outages are expected and in fact designed into the system according to a carefully considered formula trading cost versus reliability,” he said.

    He said the National Energy Market had a “reliability standard” which allowed 36,000 customers to be without power for an entire 24 hours, or 88,000 customers to be without power for 10 hours.

    Associate professor Liebman said Friday’s outage was well within this standard and “unless this happens more than 12 times in 2019 the system will have served its purpose”.

    Dylan McConnell, an energy analyst from the University of Melbourne’s Climate and Energy College said greater investment in infrastructure would make the system less vulnerable to shortages following unexpected outages or natural disasters, but it came down to what people were prepared to pay for.

    “If you wanted to have a power system that withstood [Friday’s] conditions, and multiple outages at the coal-fired power stations, then you would have had to have a lot more infrastructure in place that we would have had to pay for, and it would be a lot more expensive for something that might only happen one year in 10,” he said.

    Did the closure of the Hazelwood power station contribute to the situation?

    Victorian Opposition Leader Michael O’Brien said on Friday Labor’s policies had led to Hazelwood’s closure, and the Coalition had warned this would leave the state exposed.

    Hazelwood’s closure in 2017 removed 1600 megawatts from Victoria’s supply, but associate professor Liebman says this was an economic decision by its owners in a market that had more than enough power supply.

    Mr McConnell said Hazelwood’s closure had “not particularly” contributed to the power shortage in Victoria because the state had enough power without it, at least on paper.

    He said were it not for the two unplanned outages at other Latrobe Valley plants, coupled with the extreme weather conditions, supply would have been sufficient.

    “If you had a heatwave and one of those units failing, we would have been fine,” he said.

    “Or if we had two of the units failing, but it was not a heatwave, it would have been fine.

    “The combination of all three meant that it was going to be a difficult day.”

    Is this the new normal?

    Mr McConnell said as the state’s remaining coal-fired power plants get older, we should expect the kind of breakdowns seen this week to become more common.

    Ms D’Ambrosio said most of the 1800 megawatts of power capacity lost in the state on Friday was due to infrastructure failures in the state’s coal and gas-fired power stations.

    She said Victorians needed to come to terms with the fact that the state’s summers were getting longer and hotter.

    “We have a 20th century energy system for a 21st century climate,” she said.

    Mr McConnell said while conditions like Friday’s may become more frequent, authorities may develop more effective responses —for example through more accurate demand forecasting, or better planning of maintenance — to reduce the impact on consumers.

    What can be done?

    The Victorian Government has focused on encouraging more electricity generation from renewable sources such as solar and wind, promising to legislate to lift the state’s renewable energy target to 50 per cent by 2030

    Liam Wagner, a lecturer in economics at Griffith University, said investment in new transmission infrastructure between the states was needed, as well as greater use of renewables and battery storage, and improved energy efficiency.

    Hugh Saddler, an honorary associate professor in the Crawford School of Public Policy at the Australian National University, said Friday’s outages should prompt Victoria’s electricity industry to put more effort into “demand response”.

    This means measures such as paying customers to allow authorities to turn off their air-conditioning compressors or pool pumps for short periods to reduce demand.

    He said this would be a much lower-cost way of avoiding the need for load shedding than building new power plants, which may be needed for only a few hours a year, and never in some years.

    God freaking help us.

  22. Boambee John

    stackja at 1207

    Strangely, this expense does not seem to have been billed to the (profit making) organisers.

    Yet if a conservative speaker charges fees for entry, they must pay for any police presence to protect speaker and attendees because “profit making”!

  23. Woolfe

    Hey my comment passed the Pawallian censors!

    More Greeniarrhea
    44likes

    Story: Aim for ‘united front’ of independents

  24. candy

    Zali Steggall was born into upper middle class, north shore privilege, she is a member of the chicken family…Steggalls Chickens.

    Their wealth came from non-organic chicken products and caged chickens and eggs, I suppose.

    Ms Stegall is a friend of the environment, apparently.

  25. cohenite

    Australians are well aware that British settlement involved horrific brutality against indigenous inhabitants, the effects of which have been intergenerational. But it also brought the benefits of modernity and enlightenment, few of which are acknowledged by dedicated misery merchants.

    Pity, in an otherwise pertinent article, the hat tip to the reavers and the black arm-band brigade which the article skewers.

  26. Baldrick

    Bwhahahaha, TheirABC Leftard think Phelps and Steggall are Conservative Independents …

    Jonathan Green ✔ @GreenJ
    Liberals should consider the rise of conservative independents, and maybe wonder where their party has drifted to give candidates like Phelps and Steggall such resounding appeal with their actual voting base.

    Mmyess, the sensible centre, “Ms Steggell indicated she would accept the support of left-wing activist group GetUp.

  27. Nick

    Strangely, this expense does not seem to have been billed to the (profit making) organisers.
    Yet if a conservative speaker charges fees for entry, they must pay for any police presence to protect speaker and attendees because “profit making”!

    As if hardcore party till you die isn’t enough incitement. The Government are mugs.

  28. Cassie of Sydney

    “candy
    #2919684, posted on January 28, 2019 at 12:14 pm
    Zali Steggall was born into upper middle class, north shore privilege, she is a member of the chicken family…Steggalls Chickens.

    Their wealth came from non-organic chicken products and caged chickens and eggs, I suppose.

    Ms Stegall is a friend of the environment, apparently.”

    Yes Candy….non-organic chicken…caged chicken….those poor chickens have suffered horrendously to pay for Steggall to go off skiing. Wonder what the animal activists will have to say about that? Isn’t there a conflict of interest somewhere?

  29. God freaking help us.

    Methinks he won’t have to.
    Ridiculous prices on tobacco results in smokers seeking alternate non-government approved suppliers.
    Ridiculous water/gas/electrickery prices will see a rise in meter hacking and private gensets.

    For every action, there is an equal and opposite action

  30. Nick

    Yes Candy….non-organic chicken…caged chicken….those poor chickens have suffered horrendously to pay for Steggall to go off skiing. Wonder what the animal activists will have to say about that? Isn’t there a conflict of interest somewhere?

    Tut tut Candy. These are only questions to be raised if her politics is ‘different’.

  31. John Constantine

    Above ground drug use at pill festivals can be harm minimised, the only reason not to punish organisers and drive them underground.

    For perspective, back not so long ago in the swinging arms bloodhouse pub days, brawls with a heap of blokes getting belted were just a weekend routine, games of footy the same.

    Rural victorian maryborough would have those hospitalisation figures from booze on big weekends, with a fraction of the partying population.

    Fifty thousand dollars a day to watch tens of thousands of people, couple of bucks a head, is cheaper than an air ambulance out to an underground bush doof in the middle of nowhere.

    Dunno if there even is an answer, ’cause prohibition don’t work.

  32. Nick

    John, I don’t care if young people want to take drugs. I just hate that everyone else seems to be responsible for consequences under their control.

  33. You lot should be applauding the likes of Steggall. She is your best hope for killing off the Liberal Party for good.

  34. John Constantine

    Their abc now lecturing on taxfunded radio from their billion dollar bully pulpit, that the internet giving media away for nothing is destroying rural media.

    So their abc must continue to destroy all voices in rural australia, except its own taxfunded godless commo voice.

  35. calli

    Rambler’s Stardate comment reminded me of this.

  36. Mater

    Did the closure of the Hazelwood power station contribute to the situation?

    Victorian Opposition Leader Michael O’Brien said on Friday Labor’s policies had led to Hazelwood’s closure, and the Coalition had warned this would leave the state exposed.

    Hazelwood’s closure in 2017 removed 1600 megawatts from Victoria’s supply, but associate professor Liebman says this was an economic decision by its owners in a market that had more than enough power supply.

    Professor Liebman,
    Simple Yes or No answers, if you please.
    Would people have experienced Blackouts on Friday if Hazelwood (or an equivalent sized coal generator) was still in operation?
    Would industry have had to shutdown prematurely?
    Would electricity consumers have had to pick up the tab for said industry shutting down on request?

    Nothing else need be said. The rest is just academic.

  37. C.L.

    Luvvies and the world they live in …

    What is tiny-house living really like and how can it be made better?

    The Conversation By Heather Shearer
    ———
    Mention “tiny house” in any social gathering and people almost always say, “Oh I love tiny houses”.

  38. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    the childless control freak telling people how to behave

    NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian, whose government footed the bill for the extra protectionharrassment, said she hoped and prayed people were starting to get the message to not take illicit drugs.

    However, some people attempting to get into the festivals have lashed out at police tactics — saying they have been wrongly strip searched and then had their tickets declared void.

    “How degrading is it to be made to strip naked, squat and cough while having two police officers stare you down, judging you and, in the end, after having nothing on you, get refused entry and have you ticket confiscated and ripped up in front of you while you’re watching them refund other people’s tickets,” one disgruntled commenter wrote on Facebook, who attempted to get into the Homebush event.

    “I don’t know what kind of bulls**t this is, but I am appalled and have never felt more embarrassed. Thank you for absolutely nothing, having me waste my money and ruin my day.”
    —–

    tough job stripping down some of the young hotties

  39. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2919700, posted on January 28, 2019 at 12:31 pm
    You lot should be applauding the likes of Steggall. She is your best hope for killing off the Liberal Party for good.

    It seems like only yesterday that the left fascist was here gloating that we would all be upset at the departure of yet another Lieboral/Photios hack.

    Still, at least it has penetrated his dim brain that most here regard the Lieborals as essentially the same as the Liars Party and the Slime. Small steps, small steps. In a decade or so, m0nty might actually develop some political comprehension!

  40. Shy Ted

    The only Liberals left are those whose families don’t want them to spend more time at home with them.

  41. Roger

    Scott & Marise on the ball (better late than never):

    “Australia recognises Venezuelan Opposition leader as interim President.”

    Bill & Penny silent thus far.

    No doubt Warren Mundine now regrets his invitation to Chavez to visit back in 2007 when he was ALP president?

  42. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Still, at least it has penetrated his dim brain that most here regard the Lieborals as essentially the same as the Liars Party and the Slime. Small steps, small steps. In a decade or so, m0nty might actually develop some political comprehension!

    if manboobs actually made real money, he would be the loudest mouth here decrying the left and it’s assorted cast of NPCs

  43. Eyrie

    “The only Liberals left are those whose families don’t want them to spend more time at home with them.”
    Reminds me of that Texas political ad for a local council guy. Ends with a desperate plea by his wife to elect him as it would stop him talking politics in the house all day.

  44. C.L.

    American universities are now in the total control of a neo Khmer Rouge:

    An official at the Duke University School of Medicine in the US state of North Carolina, has stepped down, a day after she was denounced by students on social media for sending an email saying Chinese students should speak English on campus.

    Megan Neely left her position as director of graduate studies for the biostatistics master’s program “effective immediately”, the dean of the school told students in a letter, according to the university’s newspaper, The Chronicle.

    US college official quits after telling Chinese students to speak English.

  45. rickw

    On the Island Hopper, Pohnepi.

  46. Shy Ted

    “I don’t know what kind of bulls**t this is, but I am appalled and have never felt more embarrassed. Thank you for absolutely nothing, having me waste my money and ruin my day.”
    Just preparing you for work and paying taxes, sweetheart.

  47. bespoke

    incoherent rambler
    #2919674, posted on January 28, 2019 at 12:06 pm
    bespoke. The cat is fat (may be better on a mobile).
    I measured it some time ago and no longer have the numbers, but the bandwidth bite from a cat refresh is unfriendly.

    Forgot Sinc is running WordPress or similar plus some evil tackers :). Well ill only post YouTube if some one hasn’t on the page.

  48. C.L.

    A companion piece to the “tiny house” boosterism at the ABC:

    Why the Western diet needs to shift to a ‘planetary health diet’ in the age of climate change.

    The two extremist authors claim the Western diet is nothing but harmful, despite Western moderns being the longest-lived people in human history. They then set forth what our new diet must consist of. But a big question looms large over these legume and bean-strewn plates and I was keen to see the answer:

    So how do we do it?
    The EAT-Lancet diet will require behaviour change for many Australians.

    Education about the need to change eating habits is vital, but personal action is only one piece of the solution, which may not be readily available to everyone.

    If you have been choosing processed foods high in fat and sugar since childhood, if you don’t have the time to prepare fresh food or the means to afford it, or if you live in a place where it’s just not available, then “choice” does not begin to describe the uphill battle to put healthy food in front of your family.

    Farmers and retailers wanting to supply sustainably-grown food also face considerable hurdles in a system that has been skewed in favour of large-scale, industrial food production with low diversity.

    Governments need to lead the way with policy changes that reflect modern-day challenges to the way we produce and consume our food.

    In other words, if we don’t stop eating meat and cheese-burgers, the state must crack down on us. Always the same with leftists. Everybody hates them and their stupid ideas so they turn to the police.

  49. JC

    Just a word of caution. We should take Di Natale’s analogy very very seriously, our power consumption ought to resemble war rationing . This is the plan these scumbags are covertly setting up for us.

  50. Eyrie

    “If you have been choosing processed foods high in fat and sugar since childhood, if you don’t have the time to prepare fresh food or the means to afford it, or if you live in a place where it’s just not available, then “choice” does not begin to describe the uphill battle to put healthy food in front of your family.”
    Easy peasy. Shop the outside of the supermarket. Start at the eggs, move to whole milk, cream and cheese, then to meats then to fresh leafy vegetables. Proceed to checkout.
    Cutting out the sugar is a good idea but most people do not realise that starches – wheat, pasta, potatoes and root veg turn to sugar very quickly in your body and spike the blood glucose followed by an insulation spike which overshoots the blood glucose so you feel hungry again and eat more.

  51. Eyrie

    JC, we’ll need to apply for an electrical power consumption licence and show a real need to do so. Then some bureaucrat will decide if it is justified. You may be restricted in the hours that power is available. Why, a couple of hours every 24 should be plenty. Say 2 am to 4 am. Those more deserving and those in the Inner Party will have power 24/365.

  52. Cutting out the sugar is a good idea …

    aka “White death”

    Once upon a time, long long ago in my fit and athletic days, I found:

    Sugar gets you out of a totally exhausted state, but you crash later on (wot goes up).
    Starches good, keeps you going for a long time, no crash afterwards (ask a long distance runner).
    Protein, makes muscles ache (as they grow).

  53. calli

    From C.L.’s link:

    The food revolution we need requires substantial agricultural innovation that must focus on improving efficiency and sustainability in existing farming lands; restoring degraded lands; a zero-expansion policy of agricultural land to enable natural ecosystems to thrive, and halving food waste.

    The first bit is a no-brainer for anyone on the land. How many farmers don’t do that these days?

    Zero expansion? Seriously? And what, pray tell, can the farmer do about food waste?

    The photo of “100g” of salmon shows a piece twice that size. I eat 100g of meat/fish/chook at a meal – I’m a 62 year old lady (although an active one) and it really isn’t a lot. A big man would struggle to survive on that amount, particularly if he’s doing hard physical work.

    Cut out sugar. It’s really that simple.

  54. Grigory M

    Some reality, Cats.

    Zali Steggall is not a member of the Steggles Chickens family – nor has she spent her whole life on the north shore. Her parents moved their family to France when Zali was aged 4 and lived there for the next 11 years – that’s where she and her brother learned to ski. She was a member of the French Junior Ski Team at age 14.

  55. calli

    Starch is fine if you’re choosing high quality ones, don’t overdo it and you’re not trying to lose weight. Try to get the ones that have heaps of fibre, low GI. Have the occasional spud cooked in its jacket, or some magnificent whole grain pasta oozing with cheesey deliciousness.

    Just not every day. Every day is not Christmas Day and every meal isn’t a feast.

  56. The food revolution requires farmers spending less time filling out government forms, so that they have more time to farm.

    Corporates aside, all the farmers I have known leave the land in a better state than when they started.
    If you want better land management encourage owner occupied farms.

  57. egg_

    Steggall the chicken

    Probably in line with Friedchickenburgers’s Energy policies.

  58. johanna

    Roger
    #2919531, posted on January 28, 2019 at 9:13 am

    BREAKING

    Foreign Minister Marise Payne tweets support for Venezuela’s LGBTI community:

    “Our thoughts and prayers are with you at this difficult time”, she wrote, calling for Russia to investigate alleged human rights abuses by the Maduro government.

    People in Venezuela are starving, sick, and being beaten and killed by their tyrannical socialist government, and Payne is bleating about alphabet people’s rights and Wussians?

    I don’t know where Planet Marise is, but I sure don’t want to go there.

    What a maroon.

  59. calli

    My latest kiddie-fattening bug bear: sweet, squeazy yoghurt. It’s everywhere, for tiny infants up to high-schoolers. Zero nutrition. Buy them a chocolate bar or a bag of lollies.

    It used to be sugary “poppers”. They even designed lunch boxes around them.

    Apart from the damage to teeth and health, they’re throwaway plastic crap. /rant

  60. egg_

    Why did Steggall cross the floor?
    It was Greener on the other side.

  61. D’Ambrosio and McConnell makes me think that the Forces of Reason must rise up and wrest power from the idiocracy.

    Is the problem that such ignorance coupled with duplicity are in the political/academic sphere?
    or is the problem that we have media that reports their idiocy as authoritative information?

  62. egg_

    Steggall might be headed for the Abbottoir?

  63. egg_

    Is the problem that such ignorance coupled with duplicity are in the political/academic sphere?
    or is the problem that we have media that reports their idiocy as authoritative information?

    d) All the above.

  64. egg_

    Ms D’Ambrosio said “typically” no compensation was made available when the market operator ordered power companies to load shed.

    Tumbrill time.

  65. Eddystone

    I’ve been avoiding plant based foods for about four months now.

    Weight loss is currently over 24 lbs and I’ve started running, up to 5 miles some days. At age 68.

    They can stick plant based diets up their clackers.

  66. 24 x 7 x 365.25 electricity.

    Such a 19th century concept.

  67. egg_

    VIC has gone full retard with S.A. – a Clayton’s grid – the power you have when you’re not having any power.

  68. “Great uncle what is your secret to being so fit and healthy at your age?”

    “Don’t eat anything green. I haven’t eaten green since I left home.”

  69. egg_

    Tumbrill time.

    Can we make it a medieval style game show with a polly a week going into the tumbrill?

  70. bespoke

    Happy to receive diet advice but giving credence to those those would force me nope.

  71. struth

    Nobody was fat on western food.
    The slop people are eating now is the result of Multiculturalism.

    Stews and meat and three veg, lamb chops, fish and salad meals, even our old fish fingers and salad, actual Australian hamburgers with egg and beetroot,, roasts, Chicken or red meat, cereal, hot pommie / Aussie breakfasts, and even a few Fritz and sauce sandwiches for lunch, saw kids grow up taller and stronger than anywhere else in the world.
    Observed and noted during ww1 by British officers regarding the size and physical prowess of the Australian troops.
    People only got fat when government interfered by way of forcing a multiculti Australia and taxing smokes out of existence.

    There is nothing wrong with the western diet.
    I’m not defending it, but if these little totalitarian whores start on with diet, there will be a war they haven’t believed could come their way.
    You see, due to banning everything else, we’ve all being paying too much emphasis on food, cooking shows etc.
    It’s all Aussies have.
    Sad fucks that we are.

    Put your hand up if you think it’s getting close to these god forsaken intrusive totalitarians of Monty’s side need to get a bit of comeuppance ?

    The lunatics need to be put back in their cells.

    Hugh Saddler, an honorary associate professor in the Crawford School of Public Policy at the Australian National University,

    A nobody of the insulated variety.
    Who cares what these dead shits have to say?

  72. stackja

    Old MacDonald had a farm,
    And on that farm he had some chicks,
    With a cluck, cluck here, a cluck, cluck there
    Loud as they could be
    And when those chicks got out of line
    Chicken fricassee
    With a cluck, cluck here, a cluck, cluck there
    Loud as they could be
    And when those chicks got out of line
    Chicken fricassee

    Steggall Chicken fricassee?

  73. stackja

    At Steggall Nutrition we are experts in food & product development, from dry food premixes to raw materials with our ethics & experience you can rely on us.

  74. Can we make it a medieval style game show with a polly a week going into the tumbrill (sic)?

    The tumbril needs to crowded with people to achieve its best effect. Like standing on bodies crowded.
    The peasants comparing the head roll as the headsmen gets into the swing of it, is an important part of the show.
    With commentary like: “Well Richie, do you think we shall see some reverse swing as the headsman tires?”

  75. struth

    I won’t ever buy a steggall’s chicken.

  76. Steve trickler

    Some people have breakfast television playing in the background. This is better. A few good laughs to be had here.

    Respect to the Orlando Police. VicPol should watch.



  77. calli

    A man (or a woman) needs to eat plenty of good, nutritious meat to be able to pull at tumbrill-load.

    Forget bread. Eat meat.

    The real fuel of revolution.

  78. thefrollickingmole

    Pinched from Takis, story is an ordinary clickbait one but the last line is a “oh god thats awful” guilty laugh…

    WAS BODY ODOR OR ANTI-SEMI TISM TO BLAME?
    Yossi Adler is a J e wish man from Michigan with at least nine children. According to officials from American Airlines, Adler, his wife, and their 19-month-old daughter were recently booted from a Miami-to-Detroit flight because several passengers and flight attendants complained that Adler stunk to high heaven.

    According to an official statement from American Airlines:

    …multiple passengers, along with our crew members, complained about Mr. Adler’s body odor. Our Miami airport team members were concerned about the comfort of our other passengers due to the odor. Our team members took care of the family and provided hotel accommodations and meals, and rebooked them on a flight to Detroit Thursday morning.

    Adler, however, says that something far more sinister caused their expulsion:

    Obviously, there was a reason….But I think it was an anti-Se m itic reason. Even if it wasn’t, they were anti-Se m itic afterward….I’m trying to stay calm here….But there’s two J e wish people on the plane, and now they’re kicking us off because of odor. Seriously? Nobody here thinks I have odor….Not once in my life has someone said I smell.

    Not once? Does that include the one time where nearly everyone on the flight besides you, your wife, and your infant daughter said you smell?

    Mr. Adler, it is our professional opinion that your excuse stinks. We also suspect that you emit a very foul and unpleasant odor. W.e will hold out the possibility that, due to historical reasons, you are afraid of anyone who wants to lead you to the showers

  79. egg_

    Ms D’Ambrosio said “typically” no compensation was made available when the market operator ordered power companies to load shed.

    Rooftop solar BS can’t cope for peak demand?

  80. Steve trickler

    “What the fuck are you wearing? Holy shit, you got some balls on you bro”.

    Gold.

  81. Steve trickler

    “What the fuck are you wearing? Holy shit, you got some b-a-l-l-s on you bro”.

    Gold.

  82. Dave in Marybrook

    Potatoes are great.
    They are not a good source of carbohydrates or glycogen- cereals and fruits have much more.
    They have great dietary fibre, more minerals than milk, more vitamins than something else I can’t remember.
    They have zero fats or lipids, which gives them a high G.I.- glycaemic index, ie the rate at which the body takes carbohydrates into blood sugars. This is itself is hardly a problem, because of their very low glycaemic load, ie G.L. For people that have trouble with portion control, the G.I. can be easily intercepted by preparing spuds with fats, ie meat, animal fats, vegetable oils, which slows down the digestion of the carbs.
    Again, potatoes are great.

  83. stackja

    Do Steggals use coal fired electricity?

  84. johanna

    The video itself probably doesn’t impact on Cat bandwidth but the initial graphic certainly does. Threads with lots of videos are slower to load, and I have a good NBN connection.

    Cats with poor internet, and people with pricey phone data plans, will be in difficulty.

    Well said, Bruce.

    When I was having problems with slow internet recently, the more pop-up videos on a page, the harder it was to load. Took forever, and sometimes just timed out, so I had to start again.

    My problem is solved now, but have a care for Cats who are stuck with lousy connections.

    The pretty picture does not make me more likely to watch. A decent description is much more effective.

  85. Power.
    1. get rid of the RETs and subsidies
    2. let customers choose their power technology
    e.g. Rambler house: primary coal, if unavailable gas or hydro.

    That should see my retail bill down to 10c per kwh (more than double the wholesale price)

    The enviros would be welcome to choose wind and solar only at $2.00 per kwh (80c – $1.20 per kwh wholesale).

  86. egg_

    Off-peak electricity times for Origin customers in SE QLD are from 10pm to 7am weekdays. Peak rates are charged between 4pm and 8pm, Monday to Friday, with shoulder rates applying at all other times. Peak rates are not charged on weekends, with shoulder rates during the day and off-peak rates overnight.

    Rooftop solar no good between 4pm and 8pm AEST in VIC?

  87. stackja

    1940s dripping on white bread.
    Of course, few had motor vehicles. Most people walked.

  88. egg_

    Cats with poor internet, and people with pricey phone data plans, will be in difficulty.

    Wunderbar!
    That should hold back the nutters on phones.

    One for Arky:

  89. egg_

    few had motor vehicles. Most people walked.

    It all went West with pedal-powered kids toys, the lardites of today.

  90. bespoke

    When I was having problems with slow internet recently, the more pop-up videos on a page, the harder it was to load. Took forever, and sometimes just timed out, so I had to start again.

    Stop tempting me with that apple, johanna.

  91. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    For people that have trouble with portion control, the G.I. can be easily intercepted by preparing spuds with fats, ie meat, animal fats, vegetable oils, which slows down the digestion of the carbs.
    Again, potatoes are great.

    roast potatoes in duck fat.

  92. C.L.

    You see, due to banning everything else, we’ve all being paying too much emphasis on food, cooking shows etc.
    It’s all Aussies have.
    Sad fucks that we are.

    This is an excellent point.
    The other thing we’re ‘allowed’ to like is coffee. It’s the Goody Two-Shoes drug.
    Consequently it is now a fetishised commodity, aong with all its accoutrements.

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