Monday Forum: January 28, 2019

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  1. Eyrie

    From the old fred:
    JC, we’ll need to apply for an electrical power consumption licence and show a real need to do so. Then some bureaucrat will decide if it is justified. You may be restricted in the hours that power is available. Why, a couple of hours every 24 should be plenty. Say 2 am to 4 am. Those more deserving and those in the Inner Party will have power 24/365.

  2. Eyrie

    Well that fixes the podium.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    New fred, all shiny and bright…

  4. Eyrie

    Afternoon, Zulu. Still morning where you are though.

  5. Diogenes

    Wow, internetz is out and still top 10

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    For anyone who needs a laugh. With what`s going on in politics Australia wide at the moment [regardless of your political persuasion] the following is very appropriate.

    An old station hand named Billy was overseeing his mob in a remote pasture in the outback when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced toward him out of a cloud of dust.

    The driver, a young man in a Brioni® suit, Gucci® shoes, RayBan® sunglasses and YSL® tie, leaned out the window and asked the old man, “If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, will you give me a calf?”

    Billy looks at the young man, who obviously is a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, “Sure, why not?”

    The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell® notebook computer, connects it to his Cingular RAZR V3® cell phone, and surfs to a NASA page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo.

    The yuppie then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop® and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg, Germany …..

    Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot® that the image has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses an MS-SQL® database through an ODBC connected Excel® spreadsheet with email on his Blackberry® and, after a few minutes, receives
    a response.

    Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJet® printer, turns to Billy and says, “You have exactly 1,586 cows and calves.”

    “That’s right. Well, you’ll be helpin yourself to one of me calves, then, since you won it fair en square.” says Billy.

    He watches the smartly dressed yuppie select one of the animals and looks on with amusement as the man gingerly picks it up & stuffs it into the boot of his car.

    As the yuppie is carefully brushing the dust & hair off his suit, Billy says, “Hey, if I can tell you exactly what work you do & where you come from, will you give me back my calf?”

    The yuppie thinks about it for a second, wondering what this wrinkled up dirt encrusted uneducated old man could possibly know? He grins and then says, “Okay, old fella, why not? I’m a believer in fair play.”

    “You’re a politician & you work in Canberra.” says the old timer.

    “Wow! That’s correct,” says the yuppie, “but, tell me how on earth did you guess that?”

    “No guessing required.” answered Billy “You showed up here even though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked. You used millions of dollars worth of equipment trying to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you don’t know a thing about how working people make a living – or about cows, for that matter. This is a mob of sheep.

    Now give me back my dog.”

  7. Woolfe

    39 in Perth, nice summer day

  8. OldOzzie

    Downed power lines trap residents in five streets in Sydney’s west


    High-voltage power lines have fallen across multiple homes and more than five streets in Sydney’s west.

    Police are warning residents in affected Plumpton streets to stay inside.

    Aquilina Drive, Beverly Place, Tilden Place, Polonia Avenue, Carroll Crescent, and other surrounding streets in the Plumpton area among those affected.

    Mr Gazitepe said at first he thought the bang was a car accident.

    “We didn’t know what happened and then 10 minutes later the fire brigade were knocking on the door telling us to stay inside.

    “It’s very scary to have a 100,000 volt live cable sitting on top of your car port,” he said.

    Emergency services were called about 7am to the scene.

    “Authorities are working to rectify the situation as soon as possible,” a NSW police spokesman said.

    Fire and Rescue NSW Acting Superintendent Bruce Fitzpatrick said there were reports of 500 metres of wires down across backyards and houses.

    He said that one house suffered a “solar panel roof fire” due to the incident.

    Endeavour Energy said overnight lightning storms had caused 10,000 homes to lose power overnight.

    By this morning all except 480 homes had their power restored.

  9. Mark from Melbourne

    Starting team!

  10. ArthurB

    I have recently returned from a week’s holiday, during which time I didn’t see any TV, or read a newspaper, and felt mentally refreshed for it. It is dismaying to return, and find that nothing has changed. I watched a few minutes of Teh Dumb, and switched off in disgust. I felt more cheerful when I read about the Victorians and the South Australians sweltering, they elected their politicians, so they deserve what they get.

    Lunacy about climate change is also prevalent across the ditch. Jacinda, the PM of Un Zud, is quoted as saying “It only takes a trip to the Pacific to see that climate change isn’t hypothetical, and you don’t have to know anything about the science…”

  11. thefrollickingmole

    leaving me muttering to myself on the dead thread….

    There can be only one punishment.

  12. miltonf

    “It only takes a trip to the Pacific to see that climate change isn’t hypothetical, and you don’t have to know anything about the science…”

    WE all know engineering is too important to leave to engineers and the laws of australia are more important than the laws of maths. This is what happens when you incubate an elite (spoiled and feral) completely removed from real technical challenges. It would never occur to them that paying industry not to operate during high power demand episodes makes that money worth even less due to wealth destruction.

  13. Eyrie

    ” and you don’t have to know anything about the science…”
    Jacinda is the perfect example. She is the Occasional-Cortex of the South Pacific.

  14. 132andBush

    Are you there, Cassie?

  15. ArthurB

    Great news!! The Irish government has decided that the nation needs an infusion of culture enrichers, and plans to import half a million or so people from the Third World, who (it believes) will ensure a wonderful future, just like that of Germany, France, Britain etc, countries that have embraced diversity and multiculturalism. Of course, the government hasn’t consulted the people, but that doesn’t really matter.

    I watched a long discussion between two journalists on the matter, it is quite long, but worth watching.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix0Fyuq8liQ&feature=youtu.be&t=0m52s

    (If the link doesn’t work, you can find it on http://www.freedomain.com)

  16. Eyrie

    According to renew energy.com.au wind is about 2.5% of generation right now.

  17. Downed power lines trap residents in five streets in Sydney’s west

    Due to the weight of gold plating.

  18. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    39 in Perth, nice summer day

    42 up in the hills, severe fire warming and a total fire ban.

  19. cohenite

    This chicken plucking bint going up against old budgie smuggler is a fucking idiot:

    The lawyer and former slalom world champion said she would fight the hard-right incumbent Tony Abbott from the “sensible centre” of politics.

    “It’s time for real action on ­climate change,” Ms Steggall said.

    “We want to make sure we lead the economic boom with new technology, renewable energy, and (that) we bring jobs to Warringah.”

    She said she would release a ­climate change policy during the campaign, and was also “determined to bring down the price of power” through greater use of renewable energy and hydro storage.

    “I want to beat Tony Abbott, who has been a handbrake on Australian progress on many fronts but, particularly, effective action on climate change,” Ms Steggall said. “I support sensible centre economic policies for a strong, ­stable economy and will resist proposed changes to negative gearing, franking credits and capital gains tax.

    “People are also worried about the state of politics in this country, the lack of compassion on human rights, how rising congestion is disrupting our commutes, mental health and domestic violence.”

  20. feelthebern

    A lot of comments have linked Zali Steggall to Steggles chickens.
    I’m not sure that is the case.

  21. “It’s time for real action on ­climate change,”

    Yep. It’s getting colder.
    We need 12 new coal HELE power stations and a couple of nukes in each state. Now.

  22. egg_

    Is Steggall’s platform the same as Phelps’?

  23. egg_

    It’s time for real action on ­climate change

    Tell that to India and China, you virtue signalling retard.

  24. egg_

    Steggall should get the Michael Schumacher Award for tree hugging.

  25. Cassie of Sydney

    Actually, it’s good that Abbott doesn’t have a cabinet position. He can devote a lot of time and energy to smashing blondie. Abbott needs to be ruthless with her too.

  26. Eyrie

    “Abbott needs to be ruthless with her too”
    That will be uncharacteristic behaviour for Abbott. Sure he’s up to it?

  27. 132andBush

    A lot of comments have linked Zali Steggall to Steggles chickens.
    I’m not sure that is the case.

    Exactly

  28. Boambee John

    calli
    #2919759, posted on January 28, 2019 at 1:52 pm
    My latest kiddie-fattening bug bear: sweet, squeazy yoghurt. It’s everywhere, for tiny infants up to high-schoolers. Zero nutrition. Buy them a chocolate bar or a bag of lollies.

    In the long lost days of my youth, tubes of sweetened condensed milk! Lots of running around kept the weight off, but the dentist did well.

  29. cohenite

    A lot of comments have linked Zali Steggall to Steggles chickens.
    I’m not sure that is the case.

    Why not, she’s a complete fucking turkey, isn’t she.

  30. Tom

    An hour and a half late. Couldn’t make top 30. Weak as.

  31. Steve trickler

    History that deserves to be remembered. Indeed it is. A few good laughs here.

    “Titanic Thompson” was character, that’s for sure. A worthy film title.

    The Gambler Who Cheated Al Capone.



  32. Boambee John

    “We want to make sure we lead the economic boom with new technology, renewable energy, and (that) we bring jobs to Warringah.”

    A wind generator in every back yard ans solar farms on all the headlands and parks in the electorate should do it?

  33. C.L.

    You see, due to banning everything else, we’ve all being paying too much emphasis on food, cooking shows etc.
    It’s all Aussies have.
    Sad fucks that we are.

    This is an excellent point.
    The other thing we’re ‘allowed’ to like is coffee. It’s the Goody Two-Shoes drug.
    Consequently it is now a fetishised commodity, aong with all its accoutrements.

  34. Boambee John

    , how rising congestion is disrupting our commutes, mental health and domestic violence.”

    Still, she is anti-immigration.

    Racist!

  35. bespoke

    Are you there, notafan, JC?

  36. calli

    From the ABC

    “She’s conservative economically and socially liberal — she has significant appeal to many Liberal voters,” ABC election analyst Antony Green said.

    How are the two compatible? You’re either addicted to OPM or you aren’t.

  37. Des Deskperson

    ‘A lot of comments have linked Zali Steggall to Steggles chickens.
    I’m not sure that is the case.’

    Steggles was started by George Steggles and his sons, John, George and Stan in 1919.

    https://www.steggles.com.au/our-story

    It seems the name has always been ‘Steggles’, never ‘Steggall’

  38. Dr Fred Lenin

    Abbot wont kick the crap out of this stupid cow ,no bottle as Londoners say .If he had any bottle he would have kicked turnbull in the ass when he beat him for leadership, then got the leftylibs by the scruff and threatened them with loss of career for mon compliance with his orders , thats what real leaders do . Can you imagine the likes of pyne bishop stabbjng Trump in the back and surviving fi]or two minutes ?
    We are stuffed for the lack of decent non career political leaders in federal ,state and local government .the governments are full of real wankers of all 56 genders .

  39. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    carry forward

  40. egg_

    “We want to make sure we lead the economic boom with new technology, renewable energy, and (that) we bring jobs to Warringah.”

    A wind generator in every back yard ans solar farms on all the headlands and parks in the electorate should do it?

    Nah, make it a dirty big wave generator, like Wollongong’s.

  41. egg_

    “We want to make sure we lead the economic boom with new technology, renewable energy, and (that) we bring jobs to Warringah.”

    We will fight climate on the beaches…

  42. Cassie of Sydney

    “Des Deskperson
    #2919840, posted on January 28, 2019 at 3:16 pm
    ‘A lot of comments have linked Zali Steggall to Steggles chickens.
    I’m not sure that is the case.’

    Steggles was started by George Steggles and his sons, John, George and Stan in 1919.

    https://www.steggles.com.au/our-story

    It seems the name has always been ‘Steggles’, never ‘Steggall’”

    You might be right Des however I recall when she was at the Olympics 20 years ago there were reports that she was part of the “Steggles” chicken family. And if she isn’t it still doesn’t take away the fact that, as Cohenite wrote, she is a complete turkey.

  43. egg_

    And here I was thinking Steggall was just a punny name.

  44. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “People are also worried about the state of politics in this country, the lack of compassion on human rights, how rising congestion is disrupting our commutes, mental health and domestic violence.”

    life was so much clearer when it was land rights for gay whales.

  45. egg_

    You might be right Des however I recall when she was at the Olympics 20 years ago there were reports that she was part of the “Steggles” chicken family.

    When she was just a little nugget.

  46. When she was just a little nugget.

    Oh.

    “We want to make sure we lead the economic boom with new technology, renewable energy, and (that) we bring jobs to Warringah.”

    5GW nuke. Place the order.

  47. “We want to make sure we lead the economic boom with new technology..”

    Who is “we”. Isn’t she running as an independent?

  48. egg_

    How do I talk to my boyfriend about p3nis size while keeping his ego intact?

    FWIW sounds contrived as Hell, as likely many of these help column letters are.
    Don’t they have “toys” if she wishes to experiment?

  49. calli

    Who is “we”. Isn’t she running as an independent?

    Heh. Surrrrrre

    Pull the other one, Zali. You economic conservative, you.

  50. 132andBush

    You might be right Des

    He is right.

  51. johanna

    Ms Zibelman said no country could afford “100 per cent reliability, over all hours and all circumstances”.

    No country can afford the likes of you as the Minister in charge.

    Unbelievable.

    If there was anyone decent in the Opposition, she would have that hung around her neck for the rest of her political life. Talk about shooting fish in a barrel.

    But that would involve admitting that ruinables are shyte. They would rather commit hara kiri than that.

    Why? Because their spouses and brainwashed kiddies and so on would freeze them out?

    The invertebrates have taken over the world, in a strange inversion of evolution.

  52. How do I talk to my boyfriend about p3nis size while keeping his ego intact?

    No problem maam. Yeah I know the enlargement surgery was problem unnecessary, but if you get into exercises and a stretching pogram I’m sure we will get along just fine.

  53. Snoopy

    Who is “we”. Isn’t she running as an independent?

    Zali, Flanners and GetUp.

  54. egg_

    Isn’t she running as an independent?

    Free range Steggall?

  55. 132andBush

    FWIW sounds contrived as Hell, as likely many of these help column letters are.
    Don’t they have “toys” if she wishes to experiment?

    You’re assuming the gender there, egg_

  56. Snoopy

    GetUp are infamous for supporting economic conservatives.

  57. egg_

    A 25 y.o. gay in a 5 year monogamous relationship also sounds contrived.

  58. egg_

    no country could afford “100 per cent reliability, over all hours and all circumstances”.

    If your Grid can’t hold your Telco network up, you’ll have mutiny on your hands.

  59. Mitch M.

    A 25 y.o. gay in a 5 year monogamous relationship also sounds contrived.

    Perhaps he loves his vacuum cleaner nozzle. Must be a Dyson.

  60. Tel

    If your Grid can’t hold your Telco network up, you’ll have mutiny on your hands.

    Yeah, Twitter will go … ahhh … the letter writing campaign will be intense!

  61. cohenite

    Perhaps he loves his vacuum cleaner nozzle. Must be a Dyson.

    Could be one of those portable ones he carries around on his back.

  62. If your Grid can’t hold your Telco network up, you’ll have mutiny on your hands.

    Strange you should say that. Early Friday morning, no cable, no mobile data.

  63. min

    Can new technology be made without the help of fossil fuels or rare earths ? .
    I would have thought Germany with all the technology or Japan would have come up with new technology that works by now .

  64. Des Deskperson

    There is nothing on her website to indicate the Steggles connection:

    https://www.zalisteggall.com.au/about

    She’s North Shore posh, mum a doctor, lived in France… The Chicken Steggles own racehorses, a bit parvenue for Zali.

    She looks a bit dumb to me, from the website photo.

  65. johanna

    feelthebern
    #2919812, posted on January 28, 2019 at 2:46 pm

    A lot of comments have linked Zali Steggall to Steggles chickens.
    I’m not sure that is the case.

    I wondered if it was an obscure joke, hard to tell in this post modern truthy world.

    Steggles, great rival of Inghams, nothing to do with the puppet put up to oppose Tony Abbott.

  66. egg_

    Tel
    #2919869, posted on January 28, 2019 at 3:58 pm

    Apparently folk freak out more if they’re sitting in the dark with no phone – cut off from the world, as it were.

  67. Can new technology be made without the help of fossil fuels or rare earths ?

    By fossil fuels, we can presume hydrocarbons.

    (Fossil fuel) Petrochemical industry provides the material for araldite, perspex, silicone sealants and breast implants. Hydrocarbon polymers are the casing on your hair dryer, vibrator and power tools (BIRM).

    Rare earth in alloys are nothing short of magic. Ask Bruce the metal chemist.

  68. AND the fix anything DUCT TAPE is fossil fuel sourced.

  69. egg_

    Steggles, great rival of Inghams, nothing to do with the puppet put up to oppose Tony Abbott.

    Whichever way it goes, it’ll be a cluckerfvck, for sure.

  70. egg_

    Rare earth in alloys are nothing short of magic.

    All your cellphone earbuds and speakers be rare earth magnets.

  71. She looks a bit dumb to me, from the website photo.

    Does she ever!
    A barrister practising in family law (..oh..and..er.. “sports law” also)
    I despise her even more now.

  72. calli

    More Brexit Fears

    Mr McDermott — who was on the streets of Derry during The Troubles as a teenager — sees Brexit as the biggest threat to Northern Ireland’s peace pact if it incites young republicans.

    “Brexit could put a border back there, a hard border, it could strike a chord among young people who realise there is a problem — there is a border there they don’t like or want,” he said.

    Just build a wall.

  73. dover_beach

    Steggell:

    champion for change

    It’s always ‘change’. They really hate their aesthetic, intellectual, and moral inheritance.

  74. calli

    A barrister practising in family law

    Handy when her marriage went kaput. It happens.

    Lots of motherhood statements there along the lines of “think of da kiddies!”.

    I wonder what her position is on the proposed tunnel (a long belated alternative to the freeway). Instead of bringing jerbs to Warringah, one could always take Wahringah to the jerbs.

  75. johanna

    no country could afford “100 per cent reliability, over all hours and all circumstances”.

    The tyranny of low expectations.

  76. no country could afford “100 per cent reliability, over all hours and all circumstances”.

    The progressives are regressive.

  77. thefrollickingmole

    no country could afford “100 per cent reliability, over all hours and all circumstances”.

    Its literally one of your only real functions you dickheads.

    Water and electricity in quantity, cheap and reliable is one of the foundations of your legitimacy. That defense and law and order.

    Everything else is pretty well something else you have glommed onto in order to expand your own powers.

    If you are happy to admit you are managing and deliberately causing the failure of an area of key responsibility I expect you to pull back from some of the other expenditure and fix it.

    We are ruled over by spivs, chancers and the scientific equivalent of Catweazles.

  78. 132andBush


    A 25 y.o. gay in a 5 year monogamous relationship also sounds contrived.

    Good point.

  79. thefrollickingmole

    Actually worse that Catweazles we have shitweazles.

  80. Muddy

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2919753, posted on January 28, 2019 at 1:47 pm

    For anyone who needs a laugh.

    Noice.
    (Never mess with a man’s dog).

  81. Muddy

    incoherent rambler
    #2919893, posted on January 28, 2019 at 4:38 pm

    no country could afford “100 per cent reliability, over all hours and all circumstances”.

    The progressives are regressive.

    Pregressive – A self-righteous, soi disant ultra-modern thinker who takes his agricultural beliefs from 10,000 BC (pre-farming), social policies from 3000 BC (pre-family groups), marital policies from 1500 BC (pre-Mosaic monogamy), science and technological ideas from 1700 AD (pre-industrial revolution) and economic guidance from 1860 (Marx). Iain C.

    (Catictionary).

  82. Dr Fred Lenin

    When the narxist fascists finally destroy the power grid hiw are they going to communicate with their comrades and inundate the proles with soros getup lies ? How are their t v and radio comrades going to keep up the lies that hold the facade up ? How are their thought police going to prevent dissent ? Hiw are the inner city gangrenes going to kkep up their gay social life with no lights at the drug “dances” .
    Anothe narxist clever plan not thought through as is normal for these tossers .

  83. JC

    Shy Ted
    #2919901, posted on January 28, 2019 at 4:47 pm

    Tony Jones is married to a Zali Steggall lookalike.

    Everyone of them is a Zali Steggall on the Left, which is why they look the same.

  84. Shy Ted

    Overheard at Davos –
    Elite A: Say, anybody know what it’s like to spend their own money?
    Elite B: Not me.
    Elite C: Me neither.

  85. Baldrick

    Pull the other one, Zali. You economic conservative, you.

    Kevin Rudd was an economic conservative too 🙃

  86. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “We want to make sure we lead the economic boom with new technology, renewable energy, and (that) we bring jobs to Warringah.”

    the only “boom” in warringah is for retirement homes.

  87. dover_beach

    no country could afford “100 per cent reliability, over all hours and all circumstances”.

    My brother was trying this one on me yesterday at a BBQ. I would love to see the history over the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. I certainly don’t remember roving brownouts in the 80s and 90s at anytime. It sounds like one of those throwaway lines the urban bugman media put out there to beat at the pass any public scepticism.

  88. Anybody got an update on the number of deaths/overdoses at the Tamworth Country Music Festival?

  89. DrBeauGan

    no country could afford “100 per cent reliability, over all hours and all circumstances”.

    This is true. Perfection is unattainable. But there is a difference between going for 99.5% and going for 65% reliability. And both are attainable.

  90. cohenite

    Close shave as southern states once again spin climate roulette

    Robert Gottliebsen The Australian January 28, 2019

    New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia last week again diced with massive power blackouts. The politicians who have vandalised our power system were again lucky — although AEMO was forced to pull the trigger on rolling power outages — their numbers by and large came up. Last week, the vast wind generators in Victoria and South Australia worked at around 20 per cent of capacity in the crisis periods because the winds didn’t blow enough.

    It was a repeat of the events on February 10, 2017 when the NSW system had 2080MW in renewable capacity, excluding the Snowy, but only generated 707MW from that capacity at the peak demand time because the wind did not blow and at 5pm the sun had lost power.

    Last week, NSW saved the day for Victoria and South Australia and in February 2017 Victoria saved NSW. In both 2017 and 2019 the politicians were lucky because NSW and Victoria did not encounter extreme heat at the same time.

    In 2016, South Australia was not as lucky and suffered a week-long blackout made worse by cable failures.

    Every summer NSW and Victoria play climate roulette and, so far, they have rolled the right numbers. I have no problems with states or the Commonwealth setting renewable energy targets. But if you try to meet those targets simply by installing wind and solar farms and do not invest in reorganising your network of wires to cope with decentralised sources and do not invest sufficiently in back up then you are playing power roulette and you send energy prices higher and higher…..

    Spent the afternoon listening to talkback and made a comment about how stupid and pointless renewables are. The greenie pile-on was revealing in its arrogance and delusional nature. It would take a brave, knowledgeable pollie to resist this aggressive bullshit.

  91. Nick

    Anybody got an update on the number of deaths/overdoses at the Tamworth Country Music Festival?

    One guy had just one beer and another had one cigarette and lived to tell the tale.

  92. Bushkid

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2919753, posted on January 28, 2019 at 1:47 pm

    Gold, Zulu!

  93. zyconoclast

    Why My White Male Comrades Are Not Showing Up To Unlearn Whiteness

    Deep and sustainable social change requires not only legislative and institutional reform, but also personal and cultural transformation. I first encountered this principle in the ecology movement, which sees the environmental crisis as having its roots in Western culture. Racial justice activism, by contrast, has tended to focus on law and policy, leaving the personal and cultural work to corporate diversity trainers. This strategy has failed to address the deep culture of whiteness that upholds white supremacy with or without racial animus. There is a growing realization among racial justice leaders and others that white supremacy is a spiritual crisis, which includes white people among its casualties. As a result, more of us white folks are beginning to investigate our white racial conditioning as a means to heal ourselves, and hopefully the culture.

    There is more…

  94. Bushkid

    egg_
    #2919814, posted on January 28, 2019 at 2:49 pm
    Is Steggall’s platform the same as Phelps’?

    Pretty much so. Yawn……

  95. zyconoclast

    Court in Italy rules Matteo Salvini should be tried for kidnapping

    Italy’s deputy prime minister and interior minister, Matteo Salvini, is one step away from facing trial after a surprise court ruling determined that he be tried for kidnapping.

    In August, prosecutors in Agrigento, Sicily, placed Salvini, who is leader of the far-right party the League, under investigation for the alleged kidnapping and detention of 177 migrants whom he prevented from disembarking the Italian coastguard ship Ubaldo Diciotti.

    The ship had been docked for six days at the Sicilian port of Catania as Salvini maintained a standoff with the EU in an attempt to push other member states to take in the migrants. The Catholic church, Ireland and Albania, which is not an EU state, eventually agreed to host the mostly Eritrean migrants.

    “I could face up to 15 years of jail because I have stopped the disembarking of illegals in Italy,” Salvini wrote on Facebook in response. “I’m speechless. Am I afraid? Not at all. I’m not going to give up on this. Now the decision will pass through the Senate. We’ll see how it goes …”

  96. Infidel Tiger

    egg_
    #2919814, posted on January 28, 2019 at 2:49 pm
    Is Steggall’s platform the same as Phelps’?

    Slightly less lez.

  97. zyconoclast

    Belgian woman kidnapped, kept as SEX SLAVE by group of migrants for MONTHS – reports

    Italian police are investigating a nightmarish case of a Belgian woman, who was kidnapped by a group of Tunisian migrants, Italian and Belgian media report. The captors had allegedly been [email protected] her for two months.
    The horror story unfolded back in early 2017 when a Belgian woman, 32, was abducted by six Tunisians in the north-western Italian sea resort of Sanremo, not far from the French border. The victim, residing in the French Riviera, allegedly approached one of her future captors in the street seeking to buy drugs, according to media reports.

    The Tunisians forcibly took her to a house, where one of the migrants lived, where she said she had been tied to a bed with ropes and repeatedly [email protected] One of her captors also always stood guard in the house to prevent her escape.

    At some point, the six men went from just taking turns in [email protected] her to inviting some other people to the house and letting them [email protected] her as well for money. The chilling ordeal ended when the woman was suddenly released by her tormentors after spending some two months in captivity – January and February 2017.

    The police detained all six suspects, described as Tunisian migrants aged between 23 and 50 by the media, who were charged with kidnapping, group s3xual violence, [email protected] and forcing a person into pr0stitution. No further details about the case have been revealed. There is no information on the citizenship status of the suspects or whether they are in Italy legally.

    The pre-trial hearing of the case will be held on January 25. The case of the Belgian woman, whose identity has not been revealed, comes on the heels of a tragic incident that shocked Italy.

    An Italian girl, Desiree Mariottini, 16, was [email protected] by a group of migrants in Rome as she also sought to buy drugs in October 2018. The girl died from a drug overdose the same night as the migrants drugged her unconscious before s3xually assaulting her.

    Three migrants from Senegal and Nigeria were arrested in that high-profile case, which split Italy as it led to yet another rise of anti-immigrant sentiments but also prompted many to accuse Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini, the leader of the right-wing anti-immigrant Lega party, of capitalizing on the issue.

  98. Memoryvault

    Steggles or Steggall, most of the chicken comes from Baiada Poultry, apparently.

    “Baiada is one of Australia’s largest poultry processing companies with a market share of more than 20%, producing the Lilydale Select and Steggles brand to retailers including Coles, Woolworths, IGA, Aldi, McDonald’s, KFC, Pizza Hut, Red Rooster, Nando’s and Subway.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baiada_Poultry

    It also appears that they are not very nice people.

    I feel like I’ve been conned.

  99. calli

    Wow! Look at the photos News selected for Zippy’s story. No bias there.

    Stymes is the creature who ruminated and joked about Roberts-Smith’s p3nis size on FTA. She’s one classy lady.

  100. cohenite

    zyconoclast

    #2919921, posted on January 28, 2019 at 5:06 pm

    Court in Italy rules Matteo Salvini should be tried for kidnapping

    Italy’s deputy prime minister and interior minister, Matteo Salvini, is one step away from facing trial after a surprise court ruling determined that he be tried for kidnapping.

    That’s fucked. The deputy PM stops some illegals from landing and the court indicts him.

  101. JC

    Doc

    What’s your view? Nassim Taleb, who wrote Black Swan and Skin in the Game reckons IQ tests are basically useless and psychologists are even more useless. I never realized it, but the sheer “noise” relating to the “science” backing a lot of this up, essentially invalidates most of the area. Taleb reckons the only worthwhile thing IQ tests are able to do is test for retardation.

    I’m not sure if I believe him, but it’s interesting all the same.

    https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39

  102. johanna

    Trawling through ye olde fredde, I was gobsmacked to find our usually sane and sensible calli saying:

    Have the occasional spud cooked in its jacket

    because spuds are bad, mkay?

    I’ve said it before and will repeat – there is nothing like a discussion about food to bring out the most bizarre and passionately held beliefs in otherwise sensible people.

    Food fads are as old as civilisation. But, the great thing about us is that we survive on almost anything.

    It comes down to arguments between the factions so admirably described in The Life of Brian.

    It is hilarious to observe the disconnect between people who (in unconscious search of avoiding death) decry the diets of today’s oldies. The Australians in their 80s and 90s grew up on a diet that breaks every rule they now seek to enforce. Lots of fat (dripping), sugar and carbs.

    As we know, when fact meets ideology, the outcome is pre-ordained.

  103. Nick

    Modern Australia:

    Change the date! Aborigines have massive problems owing to white colonisation (tick)
    Aboriginal communities have massive problems such as alcoholism and abuse (racist!)

  104. zyconoclast

    Trendy Sydney pub is flooded with one star reviews after BANNING patrons with national flags on Australia Day

    -A controversial pub siding with ‘Invasion Day’ activists has been slammed online
    -Newtown Hotel barred patrons from showing the Australian flag on Australia Day
    -A myriad of ‘one-star’ reviews have been left on the pub’s social media profiles
    -Hotel previously decided not to show the Melbourne Cup as political statement

  105. thefrollickingmole

    Zyco.

    Thats a parody account surely?
    The new and improved Geoffrey Elfwick with a bow tie and Phd. (perpetually high on drugs)

    Check out this mental salad.

    Men’s worthiness for love and belonging is conditioned on the ability to manifest self-reliance and independence. Besides being ironic, this belief is profoundly self-defeating since it constitutes a major obstacle to working on this very conditioning. Women—especially white women—while also promised the possibility of independence, are not taught to see it as a condition of their worthiness. Indeed, they receive contrary conditioning, since society—especially men—depends on them for all sorts of unpaid and invisible labor, including the social and emotional housekeeping that sustains social life.

    So on one hand evil white dudes created a system which oppresses every one else in the world, invisibly, and in addition managed to create some of the best systems for governance (so far) on earth as well as undrempt of prosperity and womens rights but is a failure?
    Isnt that racist to set the bar for “everyone else” at or bellow “failed white men” level?

    About Gregory Mengel, Ph.D.
    Gregory Mengel PhD is an educator and writer committed to social, racial, and ecological healing. He holds a PhD in Philosophy, Cosmology, and Consciousness from the California Institute of Integral Studies, where he did research on the intellectual history of evolutionary theory. Gregory is cofounder of Beyond Separation, which offers classes and workshops for white-identified people on racism and the culture of whiteness. He also teaches programs for white people with the Untraining and the East Bay Meditation Center. Gregory’s writing can be found at CosmologyOfWhiteness.Blogspot.com as well as Medium and The Body is Not an Apology.

  106. Bushkid

    thefrollickingmole
    #2919896, posted on January 28, 2019 at 4:43 pm
    Actually worse that Catweazles we have shitweazles.

    Shitweazles – Sounds like a great entry for the Cat dictionary!

  107. calli

    because spuds are bad, mkay?

    Don’t put words in my mouth, Joh. I was talking about weight loss. If people can lose weight eating lots of potatoes, lucky them.

    I love spuds. Sometimes a little too much.

  108. Caveman

    Stymes is the creature

    She seems like shes on a role calling KAK a racisit on that ch10 morning program , just heard on Fordhams 2gb.

  109. cohenite

    Yumi seems like a real cuck:

    After being awarded the Australian Victoria Cross and Medal for Gallantry in 2011, CPL Ben Roberts-Smith was interviewed on Sunday Night on 27 February 2012, discussing his life, his use of IVF to conceive his children and appearing topless in a pool.[14] He also posed topless on the cover of Men’s Health magazine, as part of a “charm offensive” for army recruitment.[15] On 28 February 2012, The Circle host Gorgi Coghlan introduced a segment by saying she had seen a photo of a man which had “kept her up all night” and who was, to her, “the perfect image of masculinity”, before revealing a photo of CPL Roberts-Smith standing topless in a pool.[16] Co-host Yumi Stynes responded with, “He’s going to dive down to the bottom of the pool to see if his brain is there.” She later explained that she did not know much about CPL Roberts-Smith nor the Australian Defence Force, and merely saw a “very handsome guy”. “So I made a joke, because how could anybody possibly be so perfect?” Stynes said. “What I didn’t estimate was how much my joke was not appreciated. I sort of intimated that maybe he wasn’t very smart, because how could you be that buff and spend that much time in a gym and be smart as well?”[17]

    Guest panelist George Negus then said “Nothing about poor old Ben…but that sort of bloke…and what if they’re not up to it in the sack?” However, his initial disclaimer “nothing about poor old Ben” was partially obscured by other people talking and Yumi Stynes asked for clarification- “Are you intimating, George Negus, that he might be a dud root?” Negus disagreed, saying “If I’d said that, the phone would be ringing off the hook.”[18] He reiterated that he was not talking about Ben Roberts-Smith specifically, but about buff men in general who may focus on their own bodies at the expense of their partners.[19]

    Despite this, tabloid media incorrectly reported that Negus and Stynes had questioned a war hero’s sexual prowess because of his use of IVF to conceive his children leading to intense social media attacks and death threats against Yumi Stynes.[20] Negus and Stynes both spoke personally with Ben Roberts-Smith who accepted their explanations and agreed there was no malicious intent.[21]

    On 13 September 2014, Fairfax newspapers issued an apology to Ms Stynes and Mr Negus, stating “Our interpretation was wrong and we accept that both Mr Negus and Ms Stynes were not referring to Cpl Roberts-Smith personally.”[22] News Limited publications, The Daily Telegraph, Herald Sun and news.com.au also retracted the incorrect allegations

  110. egg_

    . I would love to see the history over the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. I certainly don’t remember roving brownouts in the 80s and 90s at anytime. It sounds like one of those throwaway lines the urban bugman media put out there to beat at the pass any public scepticism.

    OneSteel’s Sydney arc furnace recently dusted off their voluntary shutdown procedures unused from the Greiner years, says it all (the furnace is c. 26 y.o.).

  111. Infidel Tiger

    Doc

    What’s your view? Nassim Taleb, who wrote Black Swan and Skin in the Game reckons IQ tests are basically useless and psychologists are even more useless. I never realized it, but the sheer “noise” relating to the “science” backing a lot of this up, essentially invalidates most of the area. Taleb reckons the only worthwhile thing IQ tests are able to do is test for retardation.

    I’m not sure if I believe him, but it’s interesting all the same.

    It’s interesting. Boy has he caused the IQ people to go bananas.

    He seems to have poked some huge statistical holes in it.

    So many IQ race hucksters thonkbit is the be all and end all.

  112. Nick

    I can’t wait until the Caliphate comes and Yumi is saying something, but we can’t hear as she has a bag over her head.

  113. Bruce of Newcastle

    no country could afford “100 per cent reliability, over all hours and all circumstances”.

    Ask them why, if this is so, we have been required to trade in our old landline phones for NBN ones.
    Which don’t work when there is no mains electricity, unlike the old non-digital landlines.
    And when they mention mobiles ask them (a) how do you charge one with no electricity and (b) what happens in an emergency when you are in a crappy one bar area at 6pm when everyone is trying to use their phone.

  114. zyconoclast

    Troops could return to the border in the event of a botched Brexit, the Irish prime minister has warned.

    Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said a hard border could “involve people in uniform… possibly a police presence, or an army presence to back it up”.

    Mr Varadkar added that Ireland had been “victimised” by the Brexit process.

    An Irish government spokesperson later said Mr Varadkar was not referring to putting Irish troops at the border, insisting there are no plans to do so.

  115. Anybody got an update on the number of deaths/overdoses at the Tamworth Country Music Festival?
    One guy had just one beer and another had one cigarette and lived to tell the tale.

    So overdoses & deaths are not “inevitable” at a music festival?

  116. JC

    You know, I worked with him at one time, Artie. When I say worked with him, he was working on another trading desk about half way up the trading room.

    From what I recall, he was an okay trader but a little on the arrogant side. At the time, his department, which was trading developing world debt were the darlings of the trading side of bank world. At meetings, he played that up a little. The one thing I once recall is asking him if we needed to call the carpenters as his fucking head was perhaps too big to squeeze through the doorway on the way out. This made the people at the meeting laugh. I didn’t like him much.

  117. Bruce of Newcastle

    -A controversial pub siding with ‘Invasion Day’ activists has been slammed online

    There were no pubs in Australia prior to 1788 so why are they still operating?

  118. Infidel Tiger

    He’s a very belligerent dude. Incredibly smart and interesting too.

  119. JC

    The Big Apple.

    Now you know where it comes from.

    Bill Phillips was walking to work from his Manhattan apartment, eating an apple, one spring morning in 1975. As the chairman of ad agency Ogilvy & Mather stepped over piles of refuse, he thought: “I must be crazy to live here.” A garbage strike was only one of many problems facing New York: Crime was up, bankruptcy was looming, and there was no prospect of a bailout.
    Bill Phillips, chairman of ad agency Ogilvy & Mather.
    Bill Phillips, chairman of ad agency Ogilvy & Mather. Photo: Robert Lorenz

    Phillips, who died last month, had volunteered his agency to boost the city’s reputation, but hadn’t found the right angle. When he got to the office that morning, he told creative director Jay Schulberg his insight from that walk: that New Yorkers have a love-hate relationship with their city. He suggested they devise a campaign that would represent that complex attitude.

    A few days later Schulberg had the line, a variant on a quotation from the city’s outspoken Rep. Bella Abzug: “You have to be a little crazy to live in New York, but you’d be nuts to live anywhere else.”

    They had the words. What about the image? Jazz musicians had long used “the Big Apple” to refer to the city—“You can play all over the country, but New York is the Big Apple”—and the nickname was already part of the visitors bureau’s promotional material. Recognizing the potential, Ogilvy’s creative group superimposed the New York skyline on a bright-red apple and added in the new tagline, turning out several variations for ads in subways and buses:

    How disappointing. An ad agency.

  120. Muddy #2919899, posted on January 28, 2019 at 4:47 pm

    Link

    and rough cutnpaste for your convenience.

    Not much has changed since 2014

    A Cat Compendium of Deciphered Socialist Spin, aka The Litter Box aka Rambler’s Lexicon (until a better title is found).

    Thanks to all contributors.
    This needs de-chaffing and there maybe more to add. Joint Editor(s) in Chief of the list are CL and Carpe. Complain to them.

    ABC – the unofficial communication arm of Australian Labor/Greens parties, or colloquially known as the ‘Australian Bolshevik Collective’ or ‘Anyone But Conservatives’.
    Activist – Euphemism for progressive agitator. trouble maker, insurgent, subversive. Loathes society which succours him/her. A natural calling for screechy, nagging wimmin. See also Occupiers
    All, every, everyone, most, majority, unquestioned, undisputed, conclusive, consensus (List is not all-inclusive) – Beacon words used in leftist propaganda to indicate an approaching gross exaggeration or outright falsehood.
    Asylum seeker – means one or all of rent seeker, illegal immigrant, terrorist, organized crime member, fleeing criminal, ALP voter (apologies for the tautologies).
    Austerity – (a) mis-spelling of Australian Territory – usually defined as anywhere more than 25 nautical miles from the coast of Indonesia. (b) Decreasing spending in direct proportion to tax increases. (c ) increased deficit spending (also see Cuts)
    Balanced reporting – phrase often used by members of the left to describe the ABCs’ coverage of politics and current affairs. Also used by the ABC to describe it’s coverage of politics and current affairs. (See also sarcasm n.)
    Beer coaster – compact and versatile media on which to plan multi-billion dollar government expenditure
    Blind Leadership Ambitions – the ability to agree with everything that is said by your leader without having heard it because your loud conscience is concerned about other things.
    Bubbling – Analogous to progressive thought.
    Canadia – the quality of Australian journalists.
    Canberra – so heavenly, it serves no earthly purpose.
    Candlelight Vigil – A peaceful demonstration to be held when one violent, abusive country invader dies under the watch of conservatives but not when 2000 people drown as a result of Labor policies; enactment of Josef Stalin’s infamous quote “One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.”
    Carbon footprint – a measure of energy consumption in the generation of wealth. Note that this specifically excludes energy consumption in the destruction of wealth. Such items as jet air travel, luxury motor yachts, beach side mansions and commonwealth cars for green senators are specifically excluded from carbon footprint calculations.
    Carbon Pollution – gases essential for all life existing on Earth.
    Certaindy – See Stabilidy
    Chaotic policy situation – News headlines after a minor party holding some swing votes actually says it will vote for the said policy.
    clearly – a prefix to a lie or a con.
    Compassion – expression of moral superiority by a person in a taxpayer funded job which has no performance requirements and from which he/she can’t be sacked.
    Confession – oi’v dun nuffin wrong.
    Consultative – Fairfax, check. abc, check. Milne, check.
    Cultural awareness – The concept that no matter what you say someone will be offended & call you a racist. The exception being aboriginal muslim lesbians with a wooden leg.
    Cut – More, but less than anticipated.
    0verwhelming majority – everyone who agrees with me.
    Earwax – Energy food
    Emissions – A derogatory term used to describe anything gaseous that is needed to sustain life on earth. e.g. farts, burps, exhaled breath, water vapour (aka steam), naturally occurring trace gases.
    evidence based – there was no supporting metrics, so we fiddled the data.
    excrooshee-ayding – listening to St. Julia
    Fair and Reasonable – that amount of money stolen by union officials from their members (see Perfectly Fair and Reasonable), extorted by fraud by union officials from companies, or stolen by Greens from the taxpayer to waste on PC boondoggles.
    Family Values – Only have sex with prostitutes, other peoples spouses, or those of the same sex.
    Free Speech – Anything that the ABC or Greens choose to say.
    Gender equity – Giving a sex change to a child so bull dykes can feel special.
    Gender reassignment
    (a) butchering a child’s genitals to satisfy the narcissism of an adult who claims legal ownership of the child as a “parent”.
    (b) self-mutilation of genitals to reinforce gender disorientation., preferably carried out by a Thai pox doctor’s clerk.
    Generosity – payments from union slush funds
    Generous – Increasing taxes in order to have more money to buy your vote.
    Genius political strategy – Entering into a coalition binding your policy to the minor party knowing full well the minor party would have voted for your policies in every instance.
    Genocide – Policies enacted by conservative governments that have caused an increase in the Indigenous population of Australia.
    GetUp – Labor/Greens marketing department.
    Gold Plating – Infrastructure maintenance.
    Good government – used by the political classes to describe an imaginary world where government might not exist.
    Grassroots movement – applying Roundup™ to the intelligentsia elitists.
    Great Labor Reform – anything that costs heaps of money. And that is like ’00s of millions, not the small change.
    Greed – wanting to keep ones earnings.
    Hands off our [insert institution] – A tagline used by moochers who wish to continue the wasteful spending of other people’s money when the taxpayers who fund said institution demand accountability, transparency, value and fairness.
    Hate Speech – Anything that Bolta or the Murdoch evil empire says.
    Hi-Alanist – the now retired Michael Sutcliffe … identified and mocked the phenomenon of phony ‘conservatives’ ringing talk-back shock-jocks (like Alan Jones) and saying things like, “Hi Alan, I’m a lifelong Liberal voter but I can’t stand Tony Abbott and have to say, reluctantly, that I’ll be voting for Kevin Rudd/Julia Gillard etc.”
    This phenomenon was christened Hi-Alanism.
    Homophobe – (a) Conscientious objector to same-sex “marriage”. (b) anyone who is not gay except when the gay person disagrees with SSM.
    I am innocent of all charges – (a) the incriminating documents have been destroyed. (b) I have the witnesses children ( c) the witness has a prior conviction (d) I was in the toilet at that time (e) I appointed the judge to his/her position
    I make no apology for – I’ve done something massively, egregiously wrong, failed, immoral, criminal and dead-to-rights inexcusable.
    Independent – Taxpayer-funded
    Insane Blinking – To be deployed after making a fool of oneself in a Senate Hearing
    Insurgency – Indiscriminate killing of civilians in less developed countries by anti-American, non-Anglo-Saxon, organised religious fanatics.
    Investment – Government spending programme, usually open ended.
    Islamophobe – person who thinks Uthman Badar is a dickhead
    It’s too early to discuss – we need to buy time (after a disaster of epic proportions) so we can sheet home blame to someone else (preferably a Conservative).
    Labor Leader – see Stupidity.
    Labour and Green Values – something for sale to the highest bidder
    Ladder of opportunity – One half of an economic equation. At the top of every ladder there is a government snake to take you back down.
    Light on the hill
    (a)Expression used by Labor intelligentsia to describe Socialist wisdom. Never mind it cost $3 Billion to get the power line up the hill and a Battalion of public servants to administer the project, but hey, we are the party of ideas.
    (b) Romantic encapsulation of Labor values used by bourgeois party intellectuals who now occupy all the best houses on the hill and can barely see the lights down on the flats.
    lidderassy – the meaning is unknown, but a previous P.M. wanted to increase it.
    March in [insert month] – A gathering of moochers, hippies, losers, public servants, Marxist students, Union mafia, welfare-for-lifers, the mentally deficient, environmentalists and other rent seekers to complain because their access to other people’s money is threatened.
    Middle east peace plan – A cease fire that lasts just long enough so more rocks can be gathered up for the next round.
    Misandrist Someone with a pathological hatred of Tony Abbott & his family. See also The Lying Slapper, The junkies missus, nanny roxon, Anne Summers et al
    Misogynist – someone who itemizes the lies and logical inconsistencies spoken by a female parliamentarian.
    moderate muslim
    (a) the absolute darling [phrase] of the media, political classes and various odds and sods on the blogsphere
    (b) a person able to defend the indefensible. See also union organiser
    (c ) see also fairies (not gay) at the bottom of the garden
    Moving Forward – the inertia generated from any Labor Policy – in effect: Going Nowhere.
    Most Australians – That tiny percentage of the constituency whose fake jobs allow them to indulge feelings over fact via social media and paid protests.
    Multiculturalism – an ideology sold to the plebs promising ethnic food and festivals, but over time and reinforcing through political correctness, that any failed third-world culture is far superior than anything the West ever created, and if you dare question the ideology then ‘Shut Up’!
    Occupiers – assorted drug-addled moochers, potheads, sexual predators, litter-bugs, [email protected], chronic [email protected], anarchists and other degenerates; all gathered together for the purpose of defecating anywhere but in the toilet, raping, murdering, committing assaults, stealing, and demonstrating against those who actually work and lead a productive life.
    oi! mind mah tea! – exclamation of concern in inquiry
    New Budget Saving – A new tax.
    Partisan
    1. ALPBC speak
    (a) ALP or Green: Intelligent, caring, balanced person ‘who knows what is in the best interests’ of the rest of the people useful idiots and that their cause, group, person can deliver this. See Al Gore.
    (b) Conservative: Running dog Abbott666
    2. In Conservative speak
    the normal meaning is someone who shows a biased or emotional allegiance to a party, group or person or cause.
    Passionate – (a) emotion of convenience, used to convey deep commitment to career enhancing goals. (b) a fig leaf for covering hypocrisy. (c ) as in “passionate about reform”, means I don’t give a sh1t, but it looks like there is money (for me) in it.
    Perfect Speaker – one who Mussels the baying sheep.
    Perfectly Fair and Reasonable – Specific term, that amount of money stolen by union officials from the members and spent by the union official on screwing prostitutes.
    politics is the art of the possible – boilerplate cliche used by partisan Liberals to excuse the utter cowardice of Liberal governments.
    Progressive – to be opposed to progress. See also Ladies Temperance League.
    progressive thought – a singular event that occurred circa. 1997
    Renewable – something that costs tax payers a fortune and is guaranteed to destroy at least one productive industry. Also used to describe items that require a taxpayer subsidy.
    Revenue Problem – Record tax revenues.
    Right Wing Extremist – Someone who calls for cuts to any government spending programme except Defence.
    Senior Labor Figure (n) – An individual who is afforded the presumption of innocence which is not usually extended to other members of the community. A ‘senior Labor figure’ (SLF) may be facing criminal or civil charges but these will be overlooked to ensure the devoted attention of the media to the possibility that perhaps a non-Labor politician may have punched a wall thirty years ago despite there being no witnesses and no contemporaneous evidence.
    Shut Up – A method of silencing your critics through over-use of the terms such as racist, bigot, denier, red-neck, homophobe, misogynist etc – usually applied to Conservative commentators, Conservative politicians, and anyone else who dares cross the Leftist-designated line.
    Social equity – the art of robbing the earner to prop up the slacker.
    Social justice – the theft of productive taxpayers’ money to finance welfare parasites and the left’s agenda to destroy capitalism and productive taxpayers.
    Stabilidy – (a) Used to describe an imaginary state caused by parliamentary legislation that has no redeeming features. e.g. “the carbon tax will provide stabilidy”. The origin of the word is believed to be from a sound that emanates from the gutters and sewers of Altona. (b) the ability of the Labor Party to remove a sitting Prime Minister from their ranks. (As in stab )
    Strategic – Unable to grasp or manage detail
    Structural deficit – enormous budget surplus produced by conservative government.
    Stupidity – “I haven’t seen what she said, but let me say I support what it is that she said.”
    Subsidy – Any money you earn that is not handed over to the government in taxes.
    Sustainable – similar to renewable, but specifically refers to things that are never evaluated using reasoned analysis or empirical evidence over long period of time. Often used to describe a product that requires the mining of toxic metals.
    Tax cut – government subsidy.
    Taxes – something others pay, most of them not enough.
    Terrorism – Lawful military action carried out by a Western government in a less developed country.
    The consensus – We lost the argument.
    The science is settled – (a) The argument is lost. (b) Shut Up. see also racist
    Transparency – the issue surrounded with a layer of squid ink so thick it becomes immediately opaque to the punter.
    Victims – There are many – Visit a Centrelink Office (or for your convenience, visit us online).
    Victimless – There are few – the taxpayers. Visit us at work (WARNING: you may be required to adhere to all sorts of Government regulations – OH&S and so on).
    watch – essential accessory for misogynists.
    We’re not interested in the polls – we’re following each poll like a hawk and will do everything we can in the media cycle to turn each one to our benefit.
    wink – Secret password for misogynists.
    Work – something others do.
    X has my full support – Standard reply before any charges are laid.
    X has not been a member of the Labor party for some months now – Standard response after conviction.
    X is entitled to the presumption of innocence – Standard reply after charges have been laid.
    97% – Term of exaggeration used by the left to describe the ever dwindling number of “professionals” willing to sell their souls to profit from massive government-funded fraud.

    Footnote question : who was it that said – “if you control the terminology, you control the agenda”.
    “He who controls the language controls the masses”. – Saul Alinsky

  121. thefrollickingmole

    Taleb is god….
    Well at least pretty damn good at sorting out “sciencism” from science in statistics anyway.

    Additional Variance: Unlike measurements of height or wealth, which carry a tiny relative error, many people get yuugely different results for the same IQ test (I mean the same person!), up to 2 standard deviations as measured across people, higher than sampling error in the population itself!

    A piece of research which cant be replicated isnt science.

  122. Muddy #2919899, posted on January 28, 2019 at 4:47 pm


    Link

    Tried to paste the content but its in moderation.

  123. feelthebern

    IQ is a great way to sort large numbers of people in a short period of time.
    These days there are more important tools for building a team.
    I find DISC analysis a cheap way to see if applicants can fit into a role in a team.
    The bigger your resources are, the more comprehensive the testing you can afford & apply.

  124. feelthebern

    Additional Variance: Unlike measurements of height or wealth, which carry a tiny relative error, many people get yuugely different results for the same IQ test (I mean the same person!), up to 2 standard deviations as measured across people, higher than sampling error in the population itself!

    I find that hard to believe.
    Unless the person was drunk or had jut had a fight with the missus.

  125. calli

    Thanks cohenite. I’d forgotten Negus was involved in that conversation.

    If they weren’t talking about Roberts-Smith, who could they possibly be talking about?

    It’s a deep and dark mystery.

  126. Newtown Hotel respectfully declines to be part of the 26th of January as the land was not ceded.
    Today there is a dress code and that involves no Australian flag attire and accessories.

    Anyone know if Newtown Hotel has returned to the owners the “unceded” land & hotel?

  127. mh

    Large Aboriginal flag next to M1 Brisbane southbound painted on wall with the words:
    Always Was
    Always Will Be
    Aboriginal Land

    What is clear to everyone that wants to see is that changing the date won’t put to rest anything, just like Rudd’s ‘Sorry’ speech changed nothing.

  128. zyconoclast

    Jeff Bezos gives a pitiful amount of his $160B fortune to charity

    For the world’s richest man, charity begins — and stays — at home.

    Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos has given only a tiny fraction of his $160 billion fortune to philanthropic causes, falling far behind fellow billionaires such as Bill and Melinda Gates and former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg, public records show.

    Although Bezos, 55, and his estranged wife MacKenzie recently pledged $2 billion to a new charitable initiative, their previous giving amounts to a total of just over $145 million or .0906 percent — far less than one percent — of their net worth. Out of $100,000, that would be like spending $90.06 on charity.

  129. Memoryvault

    I can’t wait until the Caliphate comes . . .

    Erdogan is patient man, and he’s only 64.
    Come what may, Trump has only got until 2024 max.

    You shouldn’t have too long to wait, Nick.

  130. Andrew Bolt, to his eternal discredit, support Yumi Stynes over that stupid comment.

  131. feelthebern

    The Newtown Hotel is probably the worst pub in the area.
    The Union or the Courthouse are many many times better if you find yourself in Newtown wanting a beer.

  132. Tel

    Taleb is god….
    Well at least pretty damn good at sorting out “sciencism” from science in statistics anyway.

    There are many people (especially in humanities) using statistics who are shocklingly bad … so in comparison to that, Taleb looks like some sort of god.

  133. When they couldn’t wriggle out of the stupidity of the comment, Negus & Stynes used this defence for saying Ben Roberts-Smith VC was a “dud root” and had “no brain”:

    “We’re both anti-war”

  134. JC

    Bern

    He does make some reasonable points about national IQs etc. He’s gotten stuck into people like Murray and that Molyneux whose always struck me as a fake for some reason. I can’t stand Molyneux.

    Taleb makes a very serious point that really needs to be answered.

    If income has a very strong correlation to IQ, then why were places like East Asia – where the highest national IQ been recorded- so far behind on the income/wealth side until very recently.He’s blocked these two guys from his twitter account because he thinks they’re morons.

    He’s very entertaining.

  135. feelthebern

    Yumi Stynes & James Matthison (the chat who ran against TA in 2016) both won gigs as in a VJ comp on Foxtels Channel V, back in the late 90’s.

  136. feelthebern. I have been subjected to IQ tests many many times.
    Results between 80 and 170.

    I have decided to take somewhere in between (150) because it sounds good.
    IQ tests are meaningless tripe.

    Biggest workplace fools have been (supposedly) 130+

  137. Infidel Tiger

    He does make some reasonable points about national IQs etc. He’s gotten stuck into people like Murray and that Molyneux whose always struck me as a fake for some reason. I can’t stand Molyneux.

    Molyneux is an extremely creepy dude.

    An IQ race huckster too.

  138. Mitch M.

    I find that hard to believe.
    Unless the person was drunk or had jut had a fight with the missus.

    Cognition can vary according to sleep, time of day of testing, stress levels, motivation, diet, and even a sugar hit can help. Height or wealth are absolutes. False comparison, very naive about the variables impacts on cognition. A German study even found large drops in IQ during the holidays!

  139. feelthebern

    An IQ race huckster too.

    These people are the worst.

  140. JC

    Jeff Bezos gives a pitiful amount of his $160B fortune to charity

    For the world’s richest man, charity begins — and stays — at home.

    Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos has given only a tiny fraction of his $160 billion fortune to philanthropic causes, falling far behind fellow billionaires such as Bill and Melinda Gates and former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg, public records show.

    Although Bezos, 55, and his estranged wife MacKenzie recently pledged $2 billion to a new charitable initiative, their previous giving amounts to a total of just over $145 million or .0906 percent — far less than one percent — of their net worth. Out of $100,000, that would be like spending $90.06 on charity.

    Yea, but it’s his money and he can do eggactly what he wants until at least.. until Pocahontas is prez and he will then be up for forfeiture. 🙂

  141. Infidel Tiger

    Taleb is worth following just for the abuse he heaps on people like Molyneux, Krugman and Pinker.

  142. feelthebern

    Results between 80 and 170.

    Were you jerking off during one of the tests ?

  143. feelthebern

    Krugman is a fool.
    A Kevin Rudd class of fool.

  144. JC

    Taleb is worth following just for the abuse he heaps on people like Molyneux, Krugman and Pinker.

    Fabulous levels of abuse. The pinnacle.

  145. dover_beach

    A discussion about Australia Day protests turned heated on Studio 10 this morning, with veteran presenter Kerri-Anne Kennerley branded “racist” by yellow panellist Yumi Stynes.

    What a tendentious piece. A curated selection of outraged outrage. What Calli said also re the portraits selected. News.com.au is simply trash.

  146. JC

    Krugman is a fool.
    A Kevin Rudd class of fool.

    In Taleb’s immortal words.

    An academic and an idiot.

  147. Infidel Tiger

    Bezos is the reason people hate billionaires and a destructive wealth tax is likely coming.

    If you ever obtain serious wealth and you don’t engage in a huge amount of philanthropy and charity, you deserve the piano wire.

  148. Nick

    You can only laugh at those who bemoan the bringing of alcohol to our shores, running a pub..

  149. feelthebern

    I wish OCA was old enough to run for Prez.
    Adding her to the Democrat Star Wars bar of candidates would be awesome.

  150. Were you jerking off during one of the tests ?

    Maybe.
    A friend who is a robotics engineer has a similar (all over the place) IQ test record.

    An “I can’t be bothered with this sh1t” accounts for some of the differential.

  151. feelthebern

    You can only laugh at those who bemoan the bringing of alcohol to our shores, running a pub..

    From memory, the last time I was at that pub (10+) years ago, I ordered a Carlton Draught.
    It tasted so stale I struggled to drink it.
    This was before I discovered artisan craft beers.
    Shows you either how few people drank Carlton Draught or maybe the lines were filthy.

  152. mh

    Haven’t we had enough of corporate billionaire philanthropists already? I have.

    Bezos goes up slightly in my estimation for not bothering with the faux caring.

  153. Nick

    I’ve said it here before. For those who prefer an indigenous utopia, they can choose, either the hospital or the cave with a lemon scented possum.

  154. zyconoclast

    Zyco.

    Thats a parody account surely?
    The new and improved Geoffrey Elfwick with a bow tie and Phd. (perpetually high on drugs)

    He got his qualifications at the California Institute of Integral Studies

    Doctoral degrees include:
    Anthropology and Social Change
    Asian Philosophies and Cultures
    Clinical Psychology
    East–West Psychology
    Ecology, Spirituality, and Religion Ecology, Spirituality, and Religion
    Human Sexuality
    Integral and Transpersonal Psychology
    Philosophy, Cosmology, and Consciousness Philosophy, Cosmology, and Consciousness
    Transformative Studies
    Women’s Spirituality Program

  155. thefrollickingmole

    If income has a very strong correlation to IQ, then why were places like East Asia – where the highest national IQ been recorded- so far behind on the income/wealth side until very recently.

    Thats where culture come in.
    Asia was still largely a slave owning/dependent economy many parts equivalent to Tsarist Russia pre the emancipation of the serfs times.

    There were still slaves when the French took over Indochina/Vietnam thats how recent the “old ways” were.

    Sections of Asia that adopted the “western” style of governance (or even benevolent dictatorships) seem to have done better than more tradition clinging ones.

    Another 70 years will see them on par or overtaking us en masse.

    The 1861 Emancipation Manifesto proclaimed the emancipation of the serfs on private estates and of the domestic (household) serfs. By this edict more than 23 million people received their liberty. Serfs gained the full rights of free citizens, including rights to marry without having to gain consent, to own property, and to own a business. The Manifesto prescribed that peasants would be able to buy the land from the landlords. Household serfs were the least affected, gaining only their freedom and no land.

    Taleb is harsh but fair.

    Mr Krugman @paulkrugman has been effectively wrong on everything (markets, bitcoin, technology, trade, GDP, FX, elections, history…): the real world is not something he has ever managed to grasp.

    So, predictably, he now supports the neocons (Iraq, Lybia, Syria, etc.)

  156. Mitch M.

    Taleb makes a very serious point that really needs to be answered.

    If income has a very strong correlation to IQ, then why were places like East Asia – where the highest national IQ been recorded- so far behind on the income/wealth side until very recently.He’s blocked these two guys from his twitter account because he thinks they’re morons.

    Apples and oranges, such comparison can only be made within populations of a specific socio-economic structure.

    That’s twice I have pointed out glaring errors in his analysis.

  157. feelthebern

    People genuinely like the entrepreneur class.
    Having a go etc.
    But has the entrepreneur becomes more successful, they tend to try deny others the opportunity to do the same.
    That’s when the people go from liking the entrepreneur to wanting to string them up with piano wire, IT style.

  158. JC

    Apples and oranges, such comparison can only be made within populations of a specific socio-economic structure.

    That’s twice I have pointed out glaring errors in his analysis.

    You’re pretty much agreeing with Taleb then, Mitch. The others are the ones making these sweeping comparisons and then don’t seem to understand the variance even within their own studies. That’s his point to some degree.

  159. Geriatric Mayfly

    Negus being bandied about above. Where is Georgy Porgy? Presumably, still running guided tours around the stews of Caracas for dreamy eyed Marxists.

  160. Infidel Tiger

    Apples and oranges, such comparison can only be made within populations of a specific socio-economic structure.

    That’s twice I have pointed out glaring errors in his analysis.

    Actually you are arguing Taleb’s point.

    Take the time to read the material carefully before looking to score points.

    This is a blog that values accuracy.

  161. JC

    Ha. Foreign visitors must read the Cat.

    Australia is a beautiful country but “boring and expensive”; a nanny state, a rip-off and a place where visitors feel outrage at the cost they are asked to pay for everything. Avoid it and don’t bother. This is according to reviews posted on blogs and websites including TripAdvisor, where travellers rate destinations around the world.

    Before you harrumph at the slight, the fact is, whether it be about transport, parking, food, alcohol or even cigarettes, the consistent feedback from inter­national visitors is that the cost of everything here is utterly ridiculous. Your country, your restaurants and venues, your service, they are just not that good, travellers say, and none of it is worth the price.

    One reviewer suggests that hard hats and fluoro vests should be handed out at airports, because Australians are so obsessed with safety.

    Another says visitors may as well be issued with a list of things that you are not allowed to do, as there are so many rules here that no one is allowed to have any fun.

  162. Eyrie

    Sure we can eat anything. The problem is that nowadays food is abundant. You can stay slim on carbs alone BUT you’ll feel hungry most of the time. If you are a 3rd world peasant you can’t afford more food.
    Fat doesn’t spike and then crash your blood glucose so you don’t overeat.
    Went low carb 4 and a half years ago and lost 10% of weight without trying or feeling hungry.
    lower BP, higher HDL and much lower trigs. Trigs is the important number for heart risk.

    You know those heart risk calculators? I’m sure they all all much the same. The Brit one overestimates the 5 year risk by 5 times. They use total cholesterol among other things and there isn’t any convincing evidence that it matters. Certainly in older women higher total is linked to being protective.

  163. feelthebern

    This is a blog that values accuracy.

    Surely a definition, waiting for a Cat term so it can make muddy’s list.

  164. Mitch M.

    Taleb is making the same mistakes as them. The way IQ testing is done today is completely at odds with how it is supposed to be done. Under supervision, adjusting for the variables. Don’t confuse the absurdity of mass IQ testing without proper controls with the validity of IQ itself.

  165. md

    This research indicates that it might be possible to treat leftists who obsess over climate change and have an obsessive hatred of Donald Trump:

    Researchers at the University of Geneva have pinpointed how the brains of mice susceptible to compulsive addiction are different from those of mice that are able to cease a rewarding behaviour when it comes with negative consequences.
    It’s long been known that some people respond more compulsively to addictive drugs than others, continuing to consume them even long after the negative consequences of doing so outweigh the pleasures. Now, using mouse models, researchers at the University of Geneva (UNIGE) have observed the brain activity underlying this difference.

    Moreover, the researchers found that they were able to regulate the activity of the neurons connecting these regions, again using the laser light approach, cementing their conclusion that this was the brain circuit responsible for the compulsive behaviour they observed.

  166. Infidel Tiger

    Mitch go to Taleb’s twitter account and then get back to us.

  167. thefrollickingmole

    Consider this.

    Its 300 years ago and Albert Einstein is born to an Aboriginal mother.
    Hes extraordinarily gifted at …. ocher painting…. and dreamtime stories…

    How has his incredible intelligence assisted his group?

    I will go back to a scholarly book I read on Roman education, I expected it would be a revelation into how the world was robbed of 1000 years of progress by its loss.
    What i actually found was a society that valued legal scholarship and public speaking 100 times more than anything we’d consider science.

    Cato and others are remembered for their eloquence and cleverness in the fields of public speaking and politics, yet it may be that their society deformed the intelligence through its education, not aided it.

    “Hard” science in Roman times was something you left for Greeks and other slaves to do.

    Culture and society can wreck a clever man.

  168. zyconoclast

    The three biggest threats to humanity revealed in Lancet report

    Obesity, undernutrition and climate change are the biggest threats to the world population, driven by profit motives and policy inertia, top international experts warn.

    The Lancet’s Commission on Obesity has called for a binding plan and trillions of dollars to thwart the dangers of unsustainable agricultural production, transport, urban design and land use.

  169. Tel

    Biggest workplace fools have been (supposedly) 130+

    But they were pulling pretty good pay, am I right?

  170. reckons IQ tests are basically useless and psychologists are even more useless. I never realized it, but the sheer “noise” relating to the “science” backing a lot of this up, essentially invalidates most of the area.

    JC – I think their is a certain amount of validity to his assertion, having worked pacific rim the learning style was a lot different and would not equate well to an IQ test, that is it woulsn’t work in PNG, New Britain, New Ireland or the Solomons.

    These people weren’t stupid, but they learned better outside the classroom, by doing the physical task.
    Getting guys to operate heavy plant we worked on the learn one , do one , teach one theory with generally good results.

    To apply such a test to them would have seen them as failures, to apply an IQ test to Western & Asian people has validity but there are groups where it just won’t work

  171. JC

    Katrina Grace Kelly Columnist

    was a columnist who wrote that.

    She goes on.

    In a move that is out of character, I recently gave the staff at a Yarra Valley winery a good telling-off. We had been there since 7.30pm, and by 10pm multiple beverages had been delivered to people, but only two mouthfuls of food. In a state of exhausted hangryness (hungry anger) I told them that what they were inflicting on us was pure torture, and left.

    It must be acknowledged here that cafes and restaurants are feeling the squeeze. Rents, gas and electricity, red tape, government charges, wages — all these costs add up and, as a result, what goes on the plate is shrinking.

    This is how a high-cost economy bites business and, in return, the consumer feels the pain. Now we have a situation where all sorts of tricks are being played, with the sole purpose of serving us less and charging us more. The message for our venues is that we are not all stupid; we notice how inhospitable the hospitality sector has become and, as a result, we increasingly will choose to eat at home.

    That’s the point I’ve been making. Our governments have done zero in terms of adding purchasing power to the earned buck. Energy, rents etc are way overboard. and the rules…. the rules.

    We have friends, who every summer, use their property for a public venue in Red Hill Victoria. The couple have planned this for the past 12 months in excruciating detail. They just received a letter from VicRoads that unless the roadway INSIDE their property is suitably paved, they cannot use the place for this venue. Time is now too short to pave it.

  172. mh

    ftb,

    All large corporate entities are attempting to create monopolies and smash any emerging competition, whether it’s Bill Gates and Microsoft or Bezos and Amazon.

    These are the last people you want involved in philanthropy as they believe they are elites who should be controlling the planet, which is what their money giving is really directed act. Do you think Bill Gates had philanthropy on his mind in Davos last week? He’s talking to his globalist elite buddies about ways to promote global government and stitch up markets for themselves.

  173. thefrollickingmole

    Never change Guardian…

    They have a long “sciencey” piece on looming food catastrophe for the world and have this caption for one of the pictures.

    Chinese farm workers sort out leeks at an organic farm on the outskirts of Beijing.

    Be sure to click on the link and get back to me with the variety of “leeks” they are sorting.

  174. Cassie of Sydney

    Margaret Thatcher knew how to deal with Negus……

    https://youtu.be/uTqKpLqMArU

  175. Infidel Tiger

    Lots of other countries have stupid rules, but the citizens just ignore them.

    Australians are way too well trained.

    Whatever they want us to do we just do it.

  176. and a place where visitors feel outrage at the cost they are asked to pay for everything. Avoid it and don’t bother. This is according to reviews posted on blogs and websites including TripAdvisor, where travellers rate destinations around the world.
    Before you harrumph at the slight, the fact is, whether it be about transport, parking, food, alcohol or even cigarettes, the consistent feedback from inter­national visitors is that the cost of everything here is utterly ridiculous. Your country, your restaurants and venues, your service, they are just not that good, travellers say, and none of it is worth the price.
    One reviewer suggests that hard hats and fluoro vests should be handed out at airports, because Australians are so obsessed with safety.
    Another says visitors may as well be issued with a list of things that you are not allowed to do, as there are so many rules here that no one is allowed to have any fun.

    Grace Kelly in the Australian. She’s dead right.
    In the more than Three Hundred comments below the article, one thing stands out:
    The restaurants that are able to provide value for money are all ones which are family-run, i.e. do not have a wages bill.

    Apart from that Grace Kelly has fallen prey to a disease that I thought was prevalent in rural areas only – judging food quality by portion size;
    Mate, the steak was hanging off both side of the plate at once – so the food has to be good!

  177. feelthebern

    Agree with you mh.
    Not sure what my post said that made you think otherwise.

  178. zyconoclast

    Queue the protest marches to stop the violence against men

    A food delivery cyclist was stabbed and robbed by three knife-wielding women in Melbourne’s south-east on Monday.

    The man, 25, was ambushed by the women who demanded his mobile phone and the food he was delivering as he cycled down Amalfi Drive, Endeavour Hills, about 12.30pm.

    The victim complied with their demands, but he was stabbed in the hand as the trio fled.

    A Dandenong North woman, 18, and a Doveton woman, 20, were arrested a short time later.

    Both women are being questioned by police. A third woman remains on the run.

  179. JC

    All large corporate entities are attempting to create monopolies and smash any emerging competition, whether it’s Bill Gates and Microsoft or Bezos and Amazon.

    You may think and believe that, but it doesn’t work bro. Never has. If it did, the original corporations in the Dow 30 would still be around. I think GE is the only one and it’s teetering on the brink.

    But lets take a contemporary example.

    Microsoft has basically standardized commercial software to the point where it costs a fraction of the tailored examples from before. In other words, Microtheft has fucking cleaned IBM’s clock to the point where IBM is seriously destabilized along with the rest of those firms in that space.

    Meanwhile, the Microsoft’s original product- desk and lattop software – is basically heading to zero cost.

    Stop believing bullshit.

  180. feelthebern

    Apart from beers at a pub, you can’t dine out in Sydney on a public holiday.
    For starters a lot of places are not open due to staffing costs.
    But then you find a place that is & can get a table, you have to put up with chronic understaffing.
    And most likely a holiday surcharge.
    The trick in Sydney is to go out the evening before the public holiday.

  181. egg_
    #2920001, posted on January 28, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    NSFW

    AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

  182. feelthebern

    GE got booted from the DJIA last year JC.
    To my eternal shame I missed it at 7 bucks in Dec & didn’t pay up.
    Now 9 bucks.
    Faarrrrk !

  183. Eyrie

    It is my understanding that the US Military was keen on IQ tests so they could easily sort the sheep from the goats to assign people to various jobs. It seems to have worked well enough for their purposes but remember the military doesn’t care about individuals and can afford to be wasteful so absolute accuracy wasn’t important to them.

  184. Bruce of Newcastle

    Obesity, undernutrition and climate change Leftism, Islam and social media are the biggest threats to the world population, driven by lack of profit motives and policy inertia, top international experts warn.

    Fixed it for those top international experts™.

  185. feelthebern

    I’ve got one the Mission Impossible movies on the background.
    Tom Cruise being a fruitcake aside, knowing that he’s 50+ and does most of his own stunts deserves some begrudging respect.

  186. JC

    She was previously Grace Collier. The Kelly means she’s hitched up, I think.

    Apart from that Grace Kelly has fallen prey to a disease that I thought was prevalent in rural areas only – judging food quality by portion size;
    “Mate, the steak was hanging off both side of the plate at once – so the food has to be good!“

    Really? Try Matilda in South Yarra where they charge 55 bucks plus for atom sized piece of steak. Because the restaurant uses only wood burning ovens, they think they can get away with stratospheric prices.

    You need a magnifying glass to see the octopus starter in the plate… almost 30 bucks .. for a starter.

    Matilda, fuck you.

  187. mh

    JC,
    I’m not saying it always works for them. The only ones who are likely to succeed indefinitely are those in the banking game, like the Rothschilds.

  188. thefrollickingmole

    Lots of other countries have stupid rules, but the citizens just ignore them.

    Australians are way too well trained.

    Seeing the Viet community at work in Oz has been a revelation.
    Just do stuff, nod at the petty official telling you you cant do it while not speaking english and carry on regardless.

    Theres hundreds of thousands in cash travelling around Australia to buy vegetables at the farm gate, barely a cent of it sniffed by the taxman.
    Nail salons paying $10 an hour cash to its workers and ringing up every sale as $20 (for the $100 nail job)

    The average Australian has been educated down by the school system into a lifetime of compliance, we actually take what are apparently our brightest people and pay them 6 figure sums to become bureaucrats and devise ways to shit on us.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_examination

  189. Eyrie

    Bezos, instead of donating to useless virtue signalling charities, is running his own space program so as to give humanity a future on the other side of the sky. My only complaint is that progress has been slow and he’s only spending a billion dollars a year on it.
    I’m sure he’s heard this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFufOGZBwFM
    Pay attention to the last verse.

  190. JC

    GE got booted from the DJIA last year JC.
    To my eternal shame I missed it at 7 bucks in Dec & didn’t pay up.
    Now 9 bucks.
    Faarrrrk !

    Really, I missed that despite owing the stock. I bought it at 8 or so bucks about 8 years ago. Saw it go to 30 plus and let it dribble down to where it is now like a schmuck. I promised I would never sell those stocks for the rest of my life.
    Who replaced it?

  191. Nick

    She was previously Grace Collier. The Kelly means she’s hitched up, I think.

    JC, she was adopted and has reverted to her birth name

  192. feelthebern

    That menu tries to hard JC.
    Check out this one.
    https://www.bistecca.com.au/restaurant/

    This is a must.

  193. JC

    JC, she was adopted and has reverted to her birth name

    You’re kidding, right? 🙂

  194. feelthebern

    Dunno who replaced it.

  195. JC

    Tuscany is the home of bistecca alla Fiorentina, globally called a
    T-bone steak and considered one of the finest cuts of beef available.

    I love it cooked that way. I’m heading to Sydney this month and will try it out. Definitely, bistecca Florentine is the only way to eat a hunk of meat.

  196. JC

    Dunno who replaced it.

    S&P said GE will be replaced by Walgreens (WBA) on June 26. It’s the first shake-up to the prestigious Dow since 2015, when Apple (AAPL) replaced AT&T.

    Wow, a discount chemist chain replaced GE. How freaking sad is that.

  197. thefrollickingmole

    bistecca Florentine

    So someone else cuts your meat up for you?

    I might be missing something but whats the attraction of that form of serving/cooking?

  198. feelthebern

    Tastes bloody fantastic.

  199. Grace Collier’s final column ever was in November last year.

  200. Snoopy

    From Ƶĩppʯ at 5:08 pm

    Nova Peris OAM OLY MAICD
    @NovaPeris

    What. A. Fuckwit.

    /Snoopy RACQ

  201. Muddy

    feelthebern
    #2919983, posted on January 28, 2019 at 6:00 pm

    I wish OCA was old enough to run for Prez.
    Adding her to the Democrat Star Wars bar of candidates would be awesome.

    The Mos Eisely Cantina?

  202. Peter Castieau

    Saw this today on the Twitterverse:

    Political parties as drinks:
    Libs- Warm beer
    Labor- Soy Latte
    One Nation- Milo in off milk
    Katter- Dam Water
    UAP- Moonshine
    Greens- Kool-Aid with KCN
    Independents- expired diet homebrand Cola
    Australian Conservatives- A cold glass of Coca-Cola (the real thing)

    H/T Rik B

  203. mh

    This is also global warming

    Wind chills of minus-45 to minus-60 expected in Chicago, much of upper Midwest

    https://www.foxnews.com/weather/wind-chills-of-minus-45-to-minus-60-expected-in-chicago-much-of-upper-midwest

  204. JC

    Socrates at the Pub
    #2920043, posted on January 28, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    Grace Collier’s final column ever was in November last year.

    Kind of like you, Driller, you boofhead. You both have good reasons to change names, although she’s only done it once for very personal reasons. You, on the other hand, to disguise general boofheadary and swine-like insolence and comportment.

  205. feelthebern

    That’s the one.
    She aint 35 so can’t run yet.
    Maybe in 2024.

  206. Tel

    The average Australian has been educated down by the school system into a lifetime of compliance, we actually take what are apparently our brightest people and pay them 6 figure sums to become bureaucrats and devise ways to shit on us.

    The psychological skills required to thrive in a high trust society are completely different to the skills required to thrive in a low trust society. This is one practical example of why IQ scores are such a crock. You are testing the ability to pass a particular examination … but there are infinity many possible examination questions that could be asked. If the examination tests high speed spacial geometry calculations on a basketball court that’s one type of brain wiring. If the examination tests accurate recursive graph traversal in a discrete math context, that’s a different brain wiring. If the examination tests the ability to persistently dodge the tax man with cash transactions while maintaining a network of off the books trading relationships, that’s a different brain wiring again.

  207. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Leftism, Islam and social media are the biggest threats to the world population, driven by lack of profit motives and policy inertia, top international experts warn.

    Fixed it for those top international experts™.

    I would add china to that mix

  208. Has anyone else noticed that JC is a piece of shit?
    With not one redeeming feature.

  209. Muddy

    incoherent rambler
    #2919956, posted on January 28, 2019 at 5:42 pm

    Muddy #2919899, posted on January 28, 2019 at 4:47 pm

    Link

    Tried to paste the content but its in moderation.

    Rambler,
    I recall that either you or someone else has pointed me towards that previously, and I believe I mentioned in one of my Catictionary intros, that I’d like to see someone take charge of what I call the ‘redefinitions.’ There are some very creative ones, both in your link and elsewhere, but for the sake of simplicity, I decided to focus the Catictionary on original words only. I’m certainly in favour of the concept of redefining existing words where something can be added, however I have no wish to be the Big Banana of that project. I hope that you or Mr. Rusty or someone else chooses to pursue it, however. Perhaps we can find a practical means of placing the Redefs and the Catictionary side-by-side.

  210. feelthebern

    Muddy, is the Chicken Shit Role of Shame eligible?

  211. Des Deskperson

    ‘Negus being bandied about above. Where is Georgy Porgy? Presumably, still running guided tours around the stews of Caracas for dreamy eyed Marxists.’

    In last weekend’s ‘Travel and Indulgence’ section of the ‘Weekend Australian Review’, the co-creator of ‘Trev the Truck’ was giving his ‘Travel Tips’. Here they are, unoriginal, sanctimonious and banal:

    “Plan how you are going to manage queue. Take a book or a newspaper to listen to a podcast [what, in the queue?] Try to avoid comparing your own country with the one you are in; instead, contrast it. And consider your impact on the locals – what you dub a destination, they call home. Take your observations beyond your own value judgements”.

    I assume that he got paid for this lazy and shallow crap. I’ve always suspected that he isn’t all that bright.

  212. Really? Try Matilda in South Yarra where they charge 55 bucks plus for atom sized piece of steak. Because the restaurant uses only wood burning ovens, they think they can get away with stratospheric prices.

    Try the Bistro at Flinders, Had dinner there about 5 years ago, and, talking to friends in Oz their menu has only improved.

    The Salt & Pepper squid entre is to die for and the King Island Porterhouse with a weed Salad is heaven on a stick.

  213. thefrollickingmole

    If the examination tests the ability to persistently dodge the tax man with cash transactions while maintaining a network of off the books trading relationships, that’s a different brain wiring again.

    Or as I know it, “Being Vietnamese”…

    The point about high trust societies is relevant though.
    Australians still think “If ive been told i cant to this by inspector jobsworth then no-one else is allowed to either”, not realizing someone prepared to ignore the rules often wont be “punished’.

    Eg: My old business I took it as an article of faith that going to court to enforce a contract on someone who had effectively stolen $40,000 from me would be straightforward.
    Silly me, as i was a businessman and they were a poor disadvantaged waif (with $40,000 worth of my money) the courts wouldnt enforce payment.

    If i was a typical low trust chap Id have hired a group of motorcycle enthusiasts to visit and explain why her health and welfare were important to me.

    Unfortunately for me ive been educated as though my society works, something im doing my best to overcome.

  214. COVINGTON KIDS LAWYER ANNOUNCES WHO THEY’RE GOING TO SUE FOR DEFAMATION

    Lol, this could be bigger than the Lord McAlpine affair – as far as damages & the oh-so-pleasurable sound of lefty screeching.

  215. Empire 5:5

    The DNC and benefactors are desperate to keep their human trafficking racket under wraps:

    The flurry of motions continues. But which ones should the public be allowed to see?

    The government has submitted a letter to address the Nxivm defendants’ recent sealing of certain pretrial motions filed on January 9 and 10, 2019.

    Sealing documents means no one can review the files without receiving a court order. This prevents the public from seeing the motions abrogating their right to witness the full proceedings in a trial.

    Recently, Clare Bronfman, Kathy Russell and Nancy Salzman made motions for severance [with accompanying legal arguments or briefings] filed entirely under seal.

    Conversely, Lauren Salzman’s motion for severance was not filed under seal.

    Bronfman and Keith Raniere also made motions to suppress evidence. A motion to suppress is a motion in criminal cases that requests a judge for an order that certain evidence be excluded from consideration by the judge or jury at trial.

    Their motions to suppress were made under seal.

    https://artvoice.com/2019/01/25/government-tries-to-stop-flurry-of-nxivm-motions-made-under-seal/#.XE6amHbYqzw

  216. Eg: My old business I took it as an article of faith that going to court to enforce a contract on someone who had effectively stolen $40,000 from me would be straightforward.

    Same applies when a major national figure has stiffed you for payment.
    Or a local authority prosecutes, or even a simple small monies case against a large enterprise (i.e. not a nationally recognised corp, but still has a CBD or metro address).

    Most such cases are decided before anyone enters the courtroom, with hizzoner basing his decision on one slam-dunk factor.

  217. Muddy

    feelthebern
    #2920057, posted on January 28, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    Muddy, is the Chicken Shit Role of Shame eligible?

    Is it a new word, bern?
    It needs to be snappier (and new).
    The Catictionary has standards, (though I haven’t been able to locate them yet).

  218. Peter Greagg

    Got a a couple of questions for the military minded cats:
    “Can you recommend a good book on Nelson?”,
    A second one is “anything good on the Battle of Jutland?”

    Thanks in anticipation.

  219. JC

    You’re the king of shit, Driller. Get back to your own blog.

    Oh yea, that’s right. No one reads it.

    But seriously, what’s with the name change every couple of months, you dickhead? When it gets too embarrassing, you think a name change will afford you a new blog life? Moron.

  220. Empire 5:5

    I wish OCA was old enough to run for Prez.
    Adding her to the Democrat Star Wars bar of candidates would be awesome.

    If you were Alex, would you release the POV vid during the primaries or risk and save it for the big contest?

  221. Shame JC never goes to a pub.
    Or engage in any masculine pursuit.

  222. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Meet God’s Communists

    The Communist Party USA (CPUSA) has a Religion Commission, where socialist pastors, religious academics, and laypeople network to spread Marxist ideas through their churches, synagogues, temples, and mosques. The United States is a deeply religious country. Very early on, the CPUSA realized that if the United States was ever to be brought to socialism, religion would have to be harnessed to the task.

  223. cohenite

    Craig Kelly on Bolt putting the lie to the victoriastan environmental minister’s utterances that it was all dirty brown coal’s fault the blackout occurred. The coal turbines were scheduled for repair and the guts fell out of wind and solar. You can’t have spinning reserve with renewables and batteries are useless.

  224. If you were Alex, would you release the POV vid during the primaries or risk and save it for the big contest?

    Use when needed.
    No point saving it for the big one, if she doesn’t win in the primaries.

    She could probably start by having those twitter/instagram live video discussions whilst getting dressed, instead of just while cooking & peeling spuds, etc.

  225. JC

    Shame JC never goes to a pub.

    I was at a pub two nights ago, you swine.

    Or engage in any masculine pursuit.

    Yea, unlike you who engages in masculine pursuits, which is sitting on you fat arse in a dingy pub room with no windows doing administration and figuring out how to fire the latest people you hired. You told us once administration was the most important element of operating a business. You paper shuffling doofus, STFU.

  226. thefrollickingmole

    Peter Greagg
    Enjoying this one on Jutland, theres quite a few good ones from the english perspective around but this is a nice look at “the other sides” version.

    Jellicoe should have been flogged for repeatedly turning away from a decisive confrontation.
    Even if he lost ships on a 1-1 basis he would still have done his job properly.
    Though to be fair he had written his intentions well before the battle and followed his risk adverse tactics all the way through.

    https://www.amazon.com/Skagerrak-Battle-Jutland-Through-German/dp/1783831235

  227. JC

    Driller

    Have you sold it yet? It’s been about a year since you informed us of the impending sale. Still no takers, right?

  228. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte condemned the Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP) as violent, hopeless, and insane during a speech Thursday, and urged members of the U.S.-designated terrorist organization to turn away from their “rotten ideology.”

  229. bundyrum

    Socrates, don’t worry about it, the ignorant pig was handed his arse a week or so ago when numerous posters told him how much he is disliked here, he calmed down for a few days, but it didn’t too long for his nastiness to come out again.
    A real sack of sh!t.

  230. Peter Greagg

    thefrollickingmole
    #2920077, posted on January 28, 2019 at 7:35 pm

    thanks. I will check it out.
    BTW, did you know Jellicoe was on the three man committee that designed the Dreadnaught?

  231. cohenite

    Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte condemned the Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP) as violent, hopeless, and insane during a speech Thursday, and urged members of the U.S.-designated terrorist organization to turn away from their “rotten ideology.”

    His solution:

    By February 2018, Duterte was offering civilians a bounty for killing communists and urging soldiers to shoot female communists “in the vagina” to make them “useless.”

    I don’t know how he would deal with female demorats like Pelosi.

  232. Muddy

    Peter Greagg
    #2920066, posted on January 28, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    Zulu seems to have a large collection and he could probably advise you, and Top Ender is the naval history man to approach.

    If you eventually want to move beyond general naval history, search for something by Norman Friedman, though his books are usually more expensive and slightly technical.

  233. mh

    Careful Socrates, JC is a made guy.

  234. Muddy

    Naval Firepower: Battleship Guns and Gunnery in the Dreadnought Era by Norman Friedman is a slightly more technical and chunky read, but very interesting if you wish to know how those systems worked during that period.

  235. rickw

    To apply such a test to them would have seen them as failures, to apply an IQ test to Western & Asian people has validity but there are groups where it just won’t work

    I dunno Carpe. They stopped doing IQ testing where I worked in PNG because they were all failing. Then you see shit like engineers turning in spreadsheets with no embedded formulas and you kind of think it’s right.

  236. JC

    George

    You’re delusional if you think I was handed anything but prize. Like you, my bitches are very stupid.

    The point that you seemed to have missed is that Driller was making some incoherent point about Grace changing her name and the date she changed it. Like big deal.

    I just reminded the twit he’s changing his own blog name very couple months. Some of us have assumed, it’s because he’s embarrassed about his comportment. Driller was here one time denying and attempting to divert attention away from the fact that his buddy, Laserjet8600 had plagiarized. Now. that’s a piece of shit right there. What a scumbag. He changed his name right after that went down.
    Go dig a hole and stick your fat in there. Fucking idiot.

  237. Peter Greagg

    Muddy
    #2920086, posted on January 28, 2019 at 7:46 pm

    Thanks Muddy.

  238. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A second one is “anything good on the Battle of Jutland?”

    Thanks in anticipation.

    “Jutland, 1916, Twelve hours to Win the War” by Angus Konstam, “”Jutland, The Unfinished Battle” by Nicholas Jellicoe – John Jellicoe’s grandson – a good account of the controversy after the battle between supporters of David Beatty and John Jellicoe, and, for a detailed look at how the leadership style of the Royal Navy developed, up to Jutland, “The Rules of the Game – Jutland and British Naval Command” by Andrew Gordon.

    Jellicoe made his share of mistakes, by David Beatty should have been reduced to the rank of able – seaman, and dismissed the Service in disgrace.

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