Open Forum: February 2, 2019

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  1. Geriatric Mayfly

    and dispensing bile at off off off-Broadway comedy festival venues.

    Catherine Deveney is up there with Rod Quantok, which brings her a long way back towards the centre of the comedic arts.

  2. John Constantine

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-03/nsw-election-to-involve-second-run-for-north-shore-independent/10774398

    “A number of senior Liberals have been in touch urging me to run,” Ms Corrigan said.

    Their abc back another conservative independent Stalinist wymynsys against the libs.

    When you are as far left as their abc, Communism Is Conservative.

    Billion dollar publicity campaign for free for abc candidates.

    Comrades.

  3. littledozer

    What are the odds, the same judge Jackson has both the Manaforte and Stone cases bought by Mueller?

  4. Townsville 1 metre of rain.

    Pfft. That’s called a “light shower” or “persistent drizzle” in Tully.

  5. cohenite

    Ruining Western economies based on a disproved hypothesis?

    NASA – Water Vapor Confirmed as Major Player in Climate Change

    It’s a water planet. The alarmists treat water as bit player just backing up big bad (human) CO2. In fact satellite measurements used by the great climate scientist Ramanathan show water vapor has 2.5 times the greenhouse effect CO2 has.

    But the real big greenhouse forcer is water in the form of clouds. The infamous Pinker paper used by Monckton shows that all warming since 1990 can be explained by cloud cover variation.

    In any event as Ed Berry has shown CO2 increase is natural. Alarmism is shit but I defy anyone to get on the msm and argue the case.

  6. John Constantine

    When alex turnfailure is a kingmaker, your country is stuffed.

    It isn’t bribery for a man betting on windmills to pay candidates that will subsidise wind is it?.

    Comrade Maaaates.

  7. JC

    Lol

    Mr Brandreth told the BBC’s Today programme: “He has been driving – and quite fast – for many years. I have been in the car with him and I have to say he drives really well, but he can drive fast.

    “When he was younger he was a dynamo. He did everything fast. He was a dynamo and he could be impatient.

    “His cousin Countess Mountbatten told me that her father Lord Mountbatten was once driving with the Queen and Prince Philip through Cowdray Park and Prince Philip was going far too fast, according to Lord Mountbatten.

    “And the Queen was sort of yelping under her breath and flinching as he drove so fast and Prince Philip turned to her and said: ‘Look, if you do that once more, I will put you out of the car.’

    “And when the hair-raising journey came to an end, Lord Mountbatten asked the Queen why she hasn’t protested, saying, ‘You’re the Queen’.

    “But the Queen said: ‘Oh, but you heard what he said – and he meant it’.”

  8. egg_

    It isn’t bribery for a man betting on windmills to pay candidates that will subsidise wind is it?.

    The Turnbulls are big on wind.

  9. It isn’t bribery for a man betting on windmills to pay candidates that will subsidise wind is it?.

    Nah. of course not. It’s all ok as long as everyone is getting their slice of the taxpayer’s earnings.

  10. JC

    In any event as Ed Berry has shown CO2 increase is natural. Alarmism is shit but I defy anyone to get on the msm and argue the case.

    Cronkite, this is unpersuasive and doesn’t pass the bullshit test.

    No one can dispute the fact that if you take fossil fuel out of the ground, whether it’s in the form of gas, oil or coal and you then burn it up the release of the C02 in the atmosphere is natural – certainly not is the sense that man- made release naturally occurs.
    You could actually argue that it is natural because everything is a natural event in the evolutionary cycle. However it’s not natural in the way you’re using the word.

    There are plenty of ways to argue against mitigation without bringing this bullshit into the argument. The rate of change does NOT comply to the modelling and therefore the theory as regards to the speed is wrong. That’s it. End of story.

    Stop trying to split the atom by using an onion cutter. Silence.

  11. JC

    Pedophrasty alert

    Harksie’s back at it.

    But yeah, let the grandkids work that one out, hey?

  12. Snoopy

    It’s curious that the judge hearing the case against Roger Stone is moving to impose a gag order on him to prevent him giving interviews etc outside of the court hearing. Apparently she doesn’t like what he’s been saying. One would think that if Stone is telling lies he would only be digging himself a deeper hole?

  13. cohenite

    Good old renewable energy.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/texas-towns-environmental-narcissism-makes-al-gore-happy-while-sticking-its-citizens-with-the-bill

    Political leaders in a college town in central Texas won wide praise from former Vice President Al Gore and the larger Green Movement when they decided to go “100 percent renewable” seven years ago. Now, however, they are on the defensive over electricity costs that have their residents paying more than $1,000 per household in higher electricity charges over the last four years.
    That’s right – $1,219 per household in higher electricity costs for the 71,000 residents of Georgetown, Texas, all thanks to the decision of its Republican mayor, Dale Ross, to launch a bold plan to shift the city’s municipal utility to 100 percent renewable power in 2012 when he was on the city council.
    In short order, Ross was elevated to celebrity status, appearing in scores of articles and videos, both at home and abroad. Al Gore made it a point to feature the Texas Republican mayor at renewable energy conferences as well. Ross was even featured in one of Gore’s documentaries.
    But while Ross was being lauded far and wide, the residents of his town were paying a steep price. His decision to bet on renewables resulted in the city budget getting dinged by a total of $29.8 million in the four years from 2015 to 2018. Georgetown’s electric costs were $3.5 million over budget in 2015, ballooning to $6.3 million in 2016, the same year the mayor locked his municipal utility into 20- and 25-year wind and solar energy contracts to make good on his 100 percent renewable pledge.
    By 2017, the mayor’s green gamble was undercut by the cheap natural gas prices brought about by the revolution in high-tech fracking. Power that year cost the city’s budget $9.5 million more than expected, rising to $10.5 million last year, according to budget documents reported by The Williamson County Sun.
    Whether Mayor Ross and his colleagues on the Georgetown City Council were motivated by good intentions, political machinations, or mere vanity is unknown. What is known is that Georgetown’s municipal utility, an integral part of the city budget, is hemorrhaging red ink thanks to those long term renewable energy contracts.
    The mayor, who not long ago was approaching ubiquitous status with the media, could not be found by the local press to comment on his city’s budget-busting power deficit.
    The deficits were triggered by the drop in natural gas prices—now the mainstay of the U.S. electric grid, having displaced coal—which caused the city to sell its surplus wind and solar power at a steep discount into Texas’ wholesale energy market. City leaders had to lock in a large excess of wind and solar power to be able to lend credibility to their 100 percent renewable claim, since wind and solar power can’t be relied on to keep the lights on 24/7/365. And, even with that surplus, there are times when Georgetown draws traditional fossil fuel power from the Texas grid, making the city’s “100 percent renewable” claim nothing more than spurious sloganeering.
    That a city in Texas (which voted for President Trump) claimed to be “100 percent renewable” generated significant “man bites dog” notoriety. But as University of Houston energy expert Charles McConnell noted, “It’s not kind of misleading, it’s very misleading, and it is for political gain.”
    Most Texas residents have the ability to choose their electricity provider in a competitive statewide market, leading to electricity prices that are among the lowest in the nation: 18 percent below the national average in 2018, and 48 percent below prices in green energy pacesetter California.
    But Texas’ electricity market excludes municipal utilities like Georgetown’s from competition, leaving consumers without choice and allowing political decisions – rather than market forces – to determine the mix of electricity suppliers.
    Georgetown is now trying to renegotiate its costly long-term wind and solar energy contracts—this, after the city council agreed to skimp on needed electric infrastructure investment to make up their budgetary shortfall.
    Mayor Ross had previously reveled in trolling President Trump, boasting to a German TV show that, “I make decisions based on facts… unlike the president,” then opining that “It was a huge mistake to withdraw from the Paris climate accords…”
    One wonders what Mayor Ross thinks about the ongoing unrest in France, initially sparked by a climate change fuel tax hike that has since been rescinded, under pressure, by President Macron.
    The mayor, who not long ago was approaching ubiquitous status with the media, could not be found by the local press to comment on his city’s budget-busting power deficit, declining to comment by both phone and email.
    Meanwhile, Texas legislators – who are unlikely to wind up on German TV – have the power to introduce a bill with the potential to free Georgetown’s ratepayers from the city’s electric monopoly, giving them the same ability to shop around for electricity now enjoyed by some 20 million of their fellow Texans.

  14. Baldrick

    Townsville 1 metre of rain.

    … or 100 Flannery’s.

  15. Cassie of Sydney

    Felicity Wilson is a Photios girl. She represents everything that is wrong with the NSW Liberals.

  16. egg_

    1 degree temperature rise.

    The global mean surface air temperature number crunch spat out by what?
    It’s a water planet – 70% ocean.
    68% of land mass is in the Northern Hemisphere – more than double the Southern.
    The South Pole is colder than the North Pole, which is land locked.
    If Greenland is losing ice mass – Antarctica is gaining ice mass.
    All hemispheres are not equal!
    Doh!

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    As I noted to candy recently: this is happening under a 1 degree temperature rise.

    No, it’s happening under a temperature fall.
    1998 was a massive el Nino year.
    2018 was 0.3 C cooler than 1998 on average.

  18. cohenite

    this is unpersuasive and doesn’t pass the bullshit test.

    Au contraire head prefect, it is the point:

    Alarmist: CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels is killing the planet

    Ed Berry: the increase in CO2 is natural and not from the burning of fossil fuels

    Alarmist: @#$!%^& denier!

    What you don’t understand head prefect is while this alarmist bullshit has moved to being a media and political issue it still requires a scientific rebuttal, a rebuttal which is short, concise and totally destructive of the alarmist science. So the slogan is: CO2 increase is natural, nothing to do with humans, coal, meat or anything else the alarmists are trying to ban.

  19. Rossini

    Once upon a time in Aussie land it was the nations debt that was going to overwhelm the generations to come.
    Now it’s a degree rise in global temperature that will overwhelm the coming generations……..lucky for them
    because the debt has outpaced any rise in temperature! Although the electorate doesn’t give a sh1t as
    Bill and his cronies look to be elected at next federal election
    Stupid .Forken . Liberals

  20. Top Ender

    A defence force dropout has been jailed for kicking a young woman in the face, stealing her violin and electric tuner and stabbing her friend in the back.

    It gets better:

    Cooper, who completed a defence force infantry course but dropped out in 2015 due to the army being “too stressful”, was in the middle of a suspended sentence for “holding a [three-year-old] child’s throat in a chokehold, causing her to be starved of oxygen, aspirate and have a seizure” when he committed the Esplanade crime.

    Suspended sentence for that? And if he hadn’t been out he wouldn’t have done the violin job either.

  21. zyconoclast

    Unrest in France: No End in Sight

    The third group is extremely large: it is the rest of the population. The upper class treat them as regrettable dead weight and expect nothing from them except silence and submission. Its members often have a hard time making ends meet. They pay taxes but can see that a growing portion is being used to subsidize the very people who drove them out of their suburban homes.

    For the moment, Macron does not seem to want to recognize that these people even exist.

    When Macron lowered the taxes of the wealthiest but increased the taxes of these “peripherals” by means of a fuel tax, it was seen as the last straw — in addition to his arrogant condescension.

    “Today, most of those who protest do not attack the police. But instead of acting to bring down the violence, the police are receiving orders pushing them to be very violent. I do not blame the police. I blame those who give them orders”. — Xavier Lemoine, the mayor of Montfermeil, a city in the Eastern suburbs of Paris where the 2005 riots were extremely destructive,

  22. egg_

    CO2 increase is natural, nothing to do with humans, coal, meat or anything else the alarmists are trying to ban.

    Volcanism being the source of Earth’s CO2 for Billions of years.

  23. egg_

    cohenite
    #2924373, posted on February 3, 2019 at 3:40 pm

    The climate scam is probably better extortion than Sydney Airport?

  24. cohenite

    The climate scam is probably better extortion than Sydney Airport?

    The alarmist scam is the biggest scam ever.

  25. Geriatric Mayfly

    Baldrick
    #2924369, posted on February 3, 2019 at 3:36 pm
    Townsville 1 metre of rain.
    … or 100 Flannery’s.

    Thanks Baldrick. I have been searching for the correct gradations inside a Flannery Gauge. Looks like its decimalised, so fractions of a Flannery can be readily observed as well.

  26. Leo G

    “This new data set shows that as surface temperature increases, so does atmospheric humidity. … Dumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere makes the atmosphere more humid. And since water vapor is itself a greenhouse gas, the increase in humidity amplifies the warming from carbon dioxide.”- Andrew Dessler from Texas A&M University

    Or is it more likely that increasing surface humidity implies more vertical stability and less convective cooling and that, in turn, leads to surface temperature increases?

  27. DrBeauGan

    Or is it more likely that increasing surface humidity implies more vertical stability and less convective cooling and that, in turn, leads to surface temperature increases?

    Shhh. If you say things like that, Harken and m0nty won’t have the faintest idea what you are talking about. It’s very unkind to ignorant fatheads to say anything intelligent.

  28. Goanna

    No, it’s happening under a temperature fall.
    1998 was a massive el Nino year.
    2018 was 0.3 C cooler than 1998 on average.

    Here in central Victoria we refer to the wet summer of 1998/99 as the ‘green summer.’

    It was a 1 in 100 year event (!)

  29. Baldrick

    I have been searching for the correct gradations inside a Flannery Gauge. Looks like its decimalised, so fractions of a Flannery can be readily observed as well.

    There’s no hard and fast rules to Flannery’s, GM. Like its namesake you just make it up as you go along.

  30. Rockdoctor

    Meh flooding rains in Townsville… Happened before, will happen again. Got nothing to do with “climate change”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Townsville_floods

    There will others when I can be bothered to dig for it. As I remember 2000 was pretty wet as well along with 2010.

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    John
    1 hour ago
    Bill Shorten now quotes Margaret Thatcher to try to justify his proposed laws against self funded retirees.
    However Bill Shorten should also note that under United Kingdom laws every person over the age of 65 receives the aged person, irrespective of what assets you hold.
    This also applies in New Zealand.
    So when is Bill Shorten going to bring this ruling into law in this country that all retirees receive the aged pension irrespective of what assets you hold.
    Don’t just focus on one of the UK’s laws implement all of them.

    Comment, from the Oz article on Bill Shorten, quoting the Blessed Saint Hilda, on “being not for turning” over the issue of franking credits. Nearly seven hundred comments, about five of the usual trolls saying franking credits are a rort, enjoyed only by the very rich(!!!!!) and the remainder, inventing new definitions of the word “fuckwit.”

  32. Makka

    Baldy,

    Make a social justice observation.
    Don’t conduct any research yet.
    Form hypothesis using the words fear and warn.

    and catastrophic.

    Every night; heat, fire, floods…….. it’s catastrophic! I tells ya.

  33. Baldrick

    The new updated scientific method:

    Make a social justice observation.
    Don’t conduct any research yet.
    Form unverified hypothesis using the words fear, warn and catastrophic.
    Test hypothesis on social media
    Record data on the number of likes.
    Draw a conclusion based on social media analytics
    Replicate as many times as you like until the outrage forces the government to give you a grant.
    Rinse and Repeat.

  34. Snoopy

    unverifiable hypothesis?

  35. Eyrie

    “Will Shorten cancel all tax refunds to employees?”
    Will Shorten cancel GST refunds to a business which buys a lot of stock in a given period and doesn’t sell enough of it to generate a GST bill at the end of the period but is due for a refund?

  36. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Great morning at Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter, Florida with
    @JackNicklaus
    and
    @TigerWoods
    2:10 AM · Feb 3, 2019

  37. Eyrie

    Regarding Lake Torrens:
    1. Who gives a rats arse about the surface of Lake Torrens?
    2. It is a salt pan. When it does rain the water will repair the surface on its own.
    No need for expensive helicopters.

  38. calli

    I have been searching for the correct gradations inside a Flannery Gauge

    Ten Fabrications to the Flannery.

  39. DrBeauGan

    Hark BeauGan – it’s clear you have no independent thoughts on climate change, simply being a one man cheer squad for the men-in-their-sheds-know-better-than-active-research-scientists school of climate change knowledge, given you are so easily conned by graph squinter Bruce.

    No, I’ve looked at the data. Unlike you I don’t absorb the zeitgeist and feel proud of my ability to do so. Which is what you accuse others here of doing. I don’t suppose you have any other way of proceeding, because you are ignorant of science and rather stupid.

    BoN has totally destroyed your arguments on several occasions, all done in the nicest way. I can’t imagine why he bothers to try to explain things to you as you are clearly unable to understand the issues. All you do is proclaim the conventional bullshit. It’s presumably what you’ve been trained to do. You must imagine that everyone else does the same, just a different species of bullshit.

    You’re very much NPC and by my standards barely human. You have no ability to use language to communicate facts or theories, you just know how to extract the conventional things that are socially approved sentences, without any sense of whether they are true, false or totally meaningless. You could be replaced by a computer program and have as much interest.

    I suggest you shut up and learn.

  40. Makka

    Meh, the FNQ (Cairns) rainfall January just gone is nowhere near the highest monthly rainfall between 1896 and 1996. In fact it’s only just over half of the highest rainfall recorded in Cairns over that time.

    But because millennial fkwit journos can’t do history and are certain that the world began with their conception, the rainfall is now catastrophic! Harken is here to tell us this and if we don’t change our ways the world today , we will all fry by next week Tuesday.

    Cairns rainfall for Jan, 2019.

    Cairns records, 1896 to 1996. Go to page 30.

    As anyone who has lived in the North long enough will tell you, green planners and council fkwits abound. They have altered and modified drainage, run off and channel courses over decades for development so much that now a normal wet season ( as regularly occurred last century) will cause quite some damage due to their their green stupidity and refusal to accept history and science. Harken is a perfect example of that idiocy.

  41. bespoke

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2924402, posted on February 3, 2019 at 4:29 pm
    Disgusting Christian University cancels Ben Shapiro Speech –
    Outrageous!!!!
    Very weak and bad optics.

    Nothing in that says why apart from hurt feelings mashed up in cryptic theological excuse.

  42. egg_

    So far on this page, we have Egg muttering about vulcanism being the source of all CO2, yet failing to explain to anyone where the massive increase in vulcanism that coincides with the increase in CO2 during the 20th century happened

    Biosphere carbonates are recycled via the mantle/volcanism over millions of years.
    The original ocean carbonates (coral) came from volcanic CO2 3 Billion y.a.

    What of the frozen methane all through the ocean, as shallow as 100m?
    Source?

  43. egg_

    Ten Fabrications to the Flannery.

    To the square root of the whore.

  44. LOL, comprehensive rebuttal.

    Your reply was a bald assertion. If you want a comprehensive rebuttal provide a detailed reply.

  45. Confused Old Misfit

    “You can live your life two ways: You can use your language to manipulate. You can use it as a tool to get what you want. But the problem with that is that it assumes you know what you want, and that you’re right. And that’s a problem, because there’s lots of things you don’t know, and if you get what you want you may find that (A.) You didn’t really want it, and (B.) that you’re not the person that started the journey towards that. That happens a lot to people, especially when they use their language in a manipulative way.” – J. Peterson

  46. cohenite

    cohenite is quoting a crank, ageing physicist who can’t do a basic percentage calculation on his blog

    harken farken; david appell an arrogant little turd journalist, seriously?

    Ed says:

    The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) claims human emissions raised the carbon dioxide level from 280 ppm to 410 ppm, or 130 ppm. Physics proves this claim is impossible.

    The IPCC agrees today’s annual human carbon dioxide emissions are 4.5 ppm per year and nature’s carbon dioxide emissions are 98 ppm per year. Yet, the IPCC claims human emissions have caused all the increase in carbon dioxide since 1750, which is 30 percent of today’s total.

    appell says this what Ed did:

    change/final_amount = (408 ppm – 280 ppm)/408 ppm = 31%

    When this should have been done:

    pct chg = change/initial_amount = (408 ppm – 280 ppm)/280 ppm = 46%

    .

    But look really hard at what Ed said:

    Yet, the IPCC claims human emissions have caused all the increase in carbon dioxide since 1750, which is 30 percent of today’s total.

    30% of today’s total

    .

    Not 30% of the beginning total of 280 but 410, today’s total.

    Numbnuts.

    And not a sense of what Ed did which is irrefutable.

  47. cohenite

    Try again:

    cohenite is quoting a crank, ageing physicist who can’t do a basic percentage calculation on his blog

    harken farken; david appell, seriously?

    Ed says:

    The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) claims human emissions raised the carbon dioxide level from 280 ppm to 410 ppm, or 130 ppm. Physics proves this claim is impossible.

    The IPCC agrees today’s annual human carbon dioxide emissions are 4.5 ppm per year and nature’s carbon dioxide emissions are 98 ppm per year. Yet, the IPCC claims human emissions have caused all the increase in carbon dioxide since 1750, which is 30 percent of today’s total.

    appell says this what Ed did:

    change/final_amount = (408 ppm – 280 ppm)/408 ppm = 31%

    When this should have been done:

    pct chg = change/initial_amount = (408 ppm – 280 ppm)/280 ppm = 46%

    .

    But look really hard at what Ed said:

    Yet, the IPCC claims human emissions have caused all the increase in carbon dioxide since 1750, which is 30 percent of today’s total.

    30% of today’s total

    .

    Not 30% of the beginning total of 280 but 410, today’s total.

    And not a sense of what Ed did which is irrefutable.

  48. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    All you do is proclaim the conventional bullshit.

    Yep. Go and bother them in the bugman coffee shop.
    They’ll nod agreeably and we can read on here in peace.

  49. It’s not a fallacy at all.

    No, it is, because the ‘what about’ can be irrelevant to the point in dispute. In other words, it can be a diversion that is meant to muddy the waters. Rhetorical rather than dialectical. But if you are arguing whether someone is a hypocrite, the ‘what about’ can be on point.

  50. Tell me Hark, what’s your opinion on the science of genetic modification?
    I’m happy as long as your consistent.

  51. Tom

    consensus science

    Bwahahaha. Also known as Clayton’s or junk science: the “proof” you have when you have no proof because it exists only in deliberately cooked junk models that are clownishly inaccurate compared with real-world observation.

  52. What of the frozen methane all through the ocean, as shallow as 100m?
    Source?

    The ecological disaster of the Siberian Traps is thought to be caused by the massive release of methane during the event.

  53. wivenhoe

    Tell me Hark, what’s your opinion on the science of genetic modification?
    I’m happy as long as your consistent.

    Oh dear, Farmer, now you have gone and crashed Google.

  54. cohenite

    I don’t know why my reply to the idiot harken is in moderation, twice but harken’s reference to david appell’s criticism of Ed Berry needs a response.

    appell says this what Ed did:

    change/final amount = (408 ppm – 280 ppm)/408 ppm = 31%

    When this should have been done:

    pct chg = change/initial amount = (408 ppm – 280 ppm)/280 ppm = 46%

    This is what Ed said:

    The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) claims human emissions raised the carbon dioxide level from 280 ppm to 410 ppm, or 130 ppm. Physics proves this claim is impossible.

    The IPCC agrees today’s annual human carbon dioxide emissions are 4.5 ppm per year and nature’s carbon dioxide emissions are 98 ppm per year. Yet, the IPCC claims human emissions have caused all the increase in carbon dioxide since 1750, which is 30 percent of today’s total.

    which is 30 percent of today’s total

    Not 30% of the beginning total of 280 but 410, today’s total.

    And not a sense of what Ed did which is irrefutable.

  55. cohenite

    I don’t know what the hell is happening; but I’m trying to reply to harken’s reference to david appell’s absolutely stupid criticism of Ed Berry which involves a couple of calculations but the censor isn’t letting them through.

    So let just say that david appell’s criticism of Ed Berry’s maths is wrong; really, stupidly wrong.

  56. Baldrick

    10 Steffen’s to a Flannery – Catastrophic
    10 Flannery’s to a Gore – Outrageously catastrophic

  57. Why the hell doesn’t these super clever predictive keypads fix up you’re and your when I bugger it up?

  58. mh

    From his cold, dead hands: Police say Jussie Smollett held onto his sandwich despite attack

    Rafer Weigel of Fox 32 in Chicago is one of the few reporters still checking in with Chicago police to see what progress they’ve made into their investigation into an alleged racist and homophobic attack on “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett, who claims he had a noose strung around his neck and bleach poured on him by assailants who yelled, “This is MAGA country!”

    If might seem like a small detail, but police noted that Smollett still had a grip on his Subway sandwich despite the attack.

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/02/02/from-his-cold-dead-hands-police-say-jussie-smollett-held-onto-his-sandwich-despite-attack/

  59. bespoke

    In other words, it can be a diversion that is meant to muddy the waters.

    That’s monty and people fall for it every time.

  60. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Scroll the Troll

  61. DrBeauGan

    egg_
    #2924440, posted on February 3, 2019 at 5:20 pm
    Bible’s Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed by an exploding asteroid, says archaeologists

    Sodom destroyed by a [email protected] ‘roid?
    Where’s the Nunbot?

    That’s fascinating, Egg. Thanks for posting it.

  62. Steve trickler

    Vegans will love this. Enjoy.



  63. Makka

    it’s Townsville currently being flooded, not Cairns.

    Get used to it. More record flood events and landslides and general mayhem globally are guaranteed under AGW.

    Lol;

    Bluewater, Far North Queensland, homes flooded after … – Cairns Post
    https://www.cairnspost.com.au/…flee…floods/…/e0827dcf79044f8792a3cd58aa39c1b9
    3 days ago – Residents flee, homes go under in Queensland floods. … Residents have been forced to flee to higher ground in far north Queensland after flood waters submerged homes and swept away sheds. … Earlier, swift water rescue boats, water police, SES personnel and firefighters rescued …

    No Harken, it’s just the same old. New to dills like you but really- you can relax. It’s old news.

  64. cohenite

    Took me a while to figure out why I couldn’t post. Maybe farken harken planned it by linking to an alarmist hack journalist whose last name has as part a certain clergyman’s name:

    cohenite is quoting a crank, ageing physicist who can’t do a basic percentage calculation on his blog

    harken farken; david app..l an arrogant little turd journalist, seriously?

    Ed says:

    The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) claims human emissions raised the carbon dioxide level from 280 ppm to 410 ppm, or 130 ppm. Physics proves this claim is impossible.

    The IPCC agrees today’s annual human carbon dioxide emissions are 4.5 ppm per year and nature’s carbon dioxide emissions are 98 ppm per year. Yet, the IPCC claims human emissions have caused all the increase in carbon dioxide since 1750, which is 30 percent of today’s total.

    app..l says this what Ed did:

    change/final_amount = (408 ppm – 280 ppm)/408 ppm = 31%

    When this should have been done:

    pct chg = change/initial_amount = (408 ppm – 280 ppm)/280 ppm = 46%

    .

    But look really hard at what Ed said:

    Yet, the IPCC claims human emissions have caused all the increase in carbon dioxide since 1750, which is 30 percent of today’s total.

    30% of today’s total

    Not 30% of the beginning total of 280 but 410, today’s total.

    Idiots.

    And not a sense of what Ed did which is irrefutable.

  65. Eyrie

    Farmer Gz: “Why the hell doesn’t these super clever predictive keypads fix up you’re and your when I bugger it up?”
    Auto correct is a good proxy for the current state of the art in Artificial Intelligence. That should be Artificial Stupidity.

  66. bespoke

    Send one to Mark M, Steve.

  67. JC

    cohenite
    #2924387, posted on February 3, 2019 at 4:02 pm

    The climate scam is probably better extortion than Sydney Airport?

    The alarmist scam is the biggest scam ever.

    Always looking for the little extra support aren’t cronkite, you fraud.

  68. cohenite

    Piss off head prefect; just because you’re a rapacious, amoral share scrounger doesn’t mean I’m like you; and what do you mean fraud. All I get for taking a concerned interest in alarmist is crap from dickheads like you. Where’s the fraud you idiot.

  69. Entropy

    What is happening in Townsville right now is friggung scary, and it will get worse tonight.

  70. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Gawd, just read back thread. Harken went the full M0nty this morning, didn’t he?

    He was determined to show us he’s a literate chap, can even write whole paragraphs, and that he can also get very high horsey indeed about us dreadful wingnutters. Yes, we’re tough on the left, seizing at the neck their ‘reasonable’ contexts, because we know how they escalate things once they’ve got the wedge in. Pure Alinskyism. It’s the old inch and mile trick. We do not give them the inch. Go elsewhere if you want that. The Cat is a terrific rat-catcher. Live with it, or leave.

    We’re actually quite an educated and smart lot, Harken, some self-taught and life-taught, full of humour and rather ironic, the expression of which you often miss entirely; floats right by you. I know all of that confounds you. There was a retired academic troll here once called Mary T, who spluttered in horror that I used to teach feminism, among other things. It was more than she could conceive of, an academic apostate feminist. She had to leave with the vapors. Fancy exposing me to vulnerable students! Interesting that she got some sense of how we feel about her. Remedial for her, I hope.

    It is very hard to think outside the zeitgeist and be independent and tolerant of others. Face it. You haven’t got there yet. Back to your urban bugmen now, for another dose of ideological purity. Enjoy.

  71. Entropy

    Makka, Bluewater is a northern suburb of Townsville.

  72. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hit it to Harken, JC, not Cohenite.

    You know you want to, and you are so good at it. 🙂

  73. JC

    Alarmist: @#$!%^& denier!

    What you don’t understand head prefect is while this alarmist bullshit has moved to being a media and political issue it still requires a scientific rebuttal, a rebuttal which is short, concise and totally destructive of the alarmist science. So the slogan is: CO2 increase is natural, nothing to do with humans, coal, meat or anything else the alarmists are trying to ban.

    Look, you ridiculous canute. If C02 is stored in the ground and then released through a burn it’s indisputable that process is man-made and that it isn’t natural in the way to define it. It’s another thing altogether to argue we’re all going to die because the earth is cooked.

    Stop posting stupid laughable nonsense.

  74. JC

    Cronokite posts laughable crap on here about gerbiling and when he’s challenged – that it is fact is ridiculous – he accuses the challenger of being a gerbiler. This is so nonsensical there are almost no words to describe this level of malicious stupidity.

  75. Geriatric Mayfly

    Bible’s Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed by an exploding asteroid, says archaeologists

    The Angel of the Lord obviously went big on this one. A couple of windy flaps in the goat cheese curtain would unsettle the local sister Sodom, bringing ruin in train.

  76. bespoke

    Only if you think humans aren’t part of the natural cycle, JC.

  77. MatrixTransform

    Meh, the FNQ (Cairns) rainfall January just gone is nowhere near the highest monthly rainfall between 1896 and 1996. In fact it’s only just over half of the highest rainfall recorded in Cairns over that time.

    When they say 1:100 year event they probably mean like this 100 years.
    doh, since yr 2000

    a 1:1000 year event would be like…sooo last millennium

  78. Baldrick

    For the uninformed, Harken Now is the new GrigoRae bot.
    Scroll the Troll 👹

  79. Top Ender

    See what happens when you play up a la Sodom and Gomorrah?

    You get hit by a giant asteroid.

  80. Makka

    Makka, Bluewater is a northern suburb of Townsville.

    It’s also a low lying previous caravan park area in Cairns. That area is always flooding and gets regular attention on the nightly news. Cops love pulling folk up at a nearby roundabout for crossing an adjoining flooded bridge.

  81. JC

    Hit it to Harken, JC, not Cohenite.

    You know you want to, and you are so good at it.

    They both deserve a decent slap over the head as they’re both imbeciles. In fact, in lots of ways they are the other side of the same worthless coin.

    Harksie is a frightened little chook who’s quickly becoming a smaller plucked chook. He’s also a Pedophrast.

    Cronkite is a fucking moron. He’s expecting people here to believe that adding 1 to 1 doesn’t equal 2. According to him, it equals something else.

    Emitting C02 into the atmosphere from buring fossil fuels is NOT natural. It’s man made. The moron doesn’t want to persuade people to believe it’s natural. He ridiculous canute expects it or he becomes abusive. No fucking wonder he was kicked of Nova’s site.

  82. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “The police officers who were dealing with it in close proximity showed a great deal of bravery.”

    He explained that police had decided to use non-lethal rounds “to ensure the person of interest didn’t leave the area we wanted him to stay in”.

    Another crucial factor in resolving the incident was the arrival of an officer who could speak the man’s primary language, Arabic, within mere minutes.

    “I think it underscores the need for diversity in our organisation, mirroring the community we serve.”
    —-
    lethal round would have provided proper certainty but mustn’t upset the imported voteherd.

  83. Entropy

    So. You got plunked by a troll. Better to admit it.

  84. JC

    Only if you think humans aren’t part of the natural cycle, JC.

    Go back and read what I said, because you’re more or less repeating the point I made. I guess I ought to be flattered, but I’m not. 🙂

  85. JC

    Piss off head prefect;

    Wow, just look who’s taking ownership. Get a load of this attitude.

    Go fuck yourself you fraud.

    just because you’re a rapacious, amoral share scrounger doesn’t mean I’m like you; and what do you mean fraud.

    I know. You could never be like me, because if you were you would have been good looking, intelligent and successful. Instead you’re a two bit land conveyance clerk in a regional town. 🙂

    Dream about it.

    All I get for taking a concerned interest in alarmist is crap from dickheads like you. Where’s the fraud you idiot.

    No questions, remember. You know the rules Cronkite, you fraud.

  86. Black Ball

    Summer equals hot. Winter equals cold. 6 words should be enough to cover the climate debate.
    As an aside, am I the only one who couldn’t give a flying fornication over Usman making his 8th ton in 41 Tests? Just prolongs the pain into the Ashes.

  87. Entropy

    Townsville annual rainfall 1141 mm
    Rainfall last five days 1012 mm
    Ross river dam (the water supply right on the edge of town) is currently 238% full @ 3:00 pm and rapidly rising.

    The floodgates will be fully opening as tide falls after 8:30 pm. 2000 cubic metres/ second on top of rainfall like 300 mm above the dam in two hours this afternoon.
    They need to get dam levels down or risk catastrophic failure.

  88. feelthebern

    rapacious, amoral share scrounger

    Was that serious or parody pot?

    #RASS

  89. bespoke

    Emitting C02 into the atmosphere from buring fossil fuels is NOT natural. It’s man made.

    Are ant hills, beaver dams natural?

  90. feelthebern

    What is it with QLD & poor dam management?

  91. Entropy

    It’s still pouring. Absolutely pouring. And now the wind is getting too to knock over trees sitting in saturated soil that will no longer hold them upright.

  92. JC

    feelthebern
    #2924479, posted on February 3, 2019 at 6:13 pm

    rapacious, amoral share scrounger

    Was that serious or parody pot?

    No it’s not. The canute is a proto-fascist little swine. He’s actually worse than the gools in most ways.

  93. MatrixTransform

    It’s the old inch and mile trick.

    is that the give them an inch and they think they’re a ruler?
    or
    the education … an inch deep and a mile wide

    🙂

  94. Confused Old Misfit

    It’s still pouring. Absolutely pouring. And now the wind is getting too to knock over trees sitting in saturated soil that will no longer hold them upright.

    Ah Queensland!
    Beautiful one day!
    Perfect the next!

  95. Ed Berry: the increase in CO2 is natural

    In fact he argues that any human contribution to an increase is insignificant.
    He also argues that isotope analysis supports the view that of the tiny total ~0.0004 fraction of CO2 in the atmosphere the human provided fraction is ~0.000012. If you prefer, SFA (to use the technical term).
    Hal Lewis (DDG him) says much the same.

    My view is that humans don’t compete with geological scale.

  96. Top Ender

    I shoulda scrolled up Egg…

  97. JC

    This :

    Ed Berry: the increase in CO2 is natural

    is not the same as this:

    any human contribution to an increase is insignificant.

    and neither with this:

    My view is that humans don’t compete with geological scale.

  98. cohenite

    Emitting C02 into the atmosphere from buring fossil fuels is NOT natural. It’s man made. The moron doesn’t want to persuade people to believe it’s natural. He ridiculous canute expects it or he becomes abusive. No fucking wonder he was kicked of Nova’s site.

    You imbecile; no one, not me, said human emissions were natural; what I said, based on Ed Berry’s work and a number of other researchers as well but I won’t make it more complex when dealing with your type, is that the increase in atmospheric concentration is effectively natural; the manmade contribution is insignificant.

    Wipe the shit from your eyes.

    And as for being kicked off Jo’s site, please elaborate you lying weasel. If you can drag yourself away from counting your shares in the Islamised Bendigo bank.

  99. Confused Old Misfit

    Instead of throwing pre-school names at each other why don’t you two (JC & Cohenite) try to agree on a definition of “natural”?

  100. Entropy

    I think the problem with Qld dams is that they are built on a one in one hundred to one in 500 year event, based on one hundred years’ of record. It is obvious what the problem is, and that we have been living in a benign time since colonisation. There are some paleoclimate studies that suggest exactly that, which means what we think is a one in 100 type event is in fact, not. For example the 1849 flood in the Brisbane River appears to have been much worse that the 1894 one, but isn’t part of the record. And the paleoclimate studies suggest that the three centuries before were much wetter than now, and commonly had events like that. And further back is the medieval warm period was drier than the current climate.

    Anyway, the short answer is we don’t know what we don’t know, maybe in transition from an unknown unknown, to a known unknown if you will.

  101. Are ant hills, beaver dams natural?

    Dialog from the Zombie Beaver movie, Zombeavers

    “I’ve been looking for beaver.”

    “Isn’t everybody?”

  102. Stimpson J. Cat

    Can the Head Prefect and the Hall Monitor settle down please.
    Asking for a friend.

  103. JC

    You imbecile; no one, not me, said human emissions were natural;

    Oh okay. I must have misread this:

    Ed Berry: the increase in CO2 is natural

    Oh Hang on, I didn’t.

    Fuck off Cronkite. You fraud.

  104. Stimpson J. Cat

    Instead of throwing pre-school names at each other why don’t you two (JC & Cohenite) try to agree on a definition of “natural”?

    Agreed.
    Now is the perfect time to start a serious discussion on Big Naturals.
    With lots of diagrams and images to illustrate the benefits.

  105. cohenite

    rapacious, amoral share scrounger

    Was that serious or parody pot?

    Correct.

  106. JC

    Can the Head Prefect and the Hall Monitor settle down please.

    Cronkite is not a hall monitor because I (the head prefect) would fire the prick in the second. He’s just a fraud.

  107. They all mean the same thing JC. Think about it, for a while.

  108. feelthebern

    We’ll have to wait to see what happened this time, but the QLD floods last time were man made by paper pushers.
    The poor dam management should have been the target of Gloria Jones.
    Not some ridiculous vendetta against the Wagners.

  109. MatrixTransform

    dwindle in plausibility in light of future temperature trends

    whoa hang on… this fella can see the future

  110. cohenite

    Fuck off yourself head prefect; or do something useful like give us a brief explanation of how to invest in islam for fun and profit.

  111. We’re actually quite an educated and smart lot, Harken, some self-taught and life-taught, full of humour and rather ironic, the expression of which you often miss entirely;

    Lizzie – Fact Check, TRUE

  112. Okay Sir Stimpson.
    Do you measure by weight or volume?

  113. Confused Old Misfit

    With lots of diagrams and images to illustrate the benefits.

    Stimpson:
    Will you assume responsibility for the provision of the diagrams and illustrations?

  114. Stimpson J. Cat

    Cronkite is not a hall monitor because I (the head prefect) would fire the prick in the second. He’s just a fraud.

    I don’t know if that falls under the Head Prefects bailiwick JC.
    President of the Chess Club Dr BeauGan May know.
    Or Student Council Secretary Lizzie.

  115. feelthebern

    The Cat was angry that day, my friends.

  116. RobK

    Ed Berry: the increase in CO2 is natural
    Atmospheric Physicist John Reid at Blackjay also says there is no cause for alarm.It’s all just bollocks

    DECEMBER 3, 2016 ADMIN 5 COMMENTS

    My paper on the statistics of “global warming” has been accepted by Energy and Environment.

    The good bits are as follows:

    Introduction
    In recent decades energy policy, both nationally and internationally, has been primarily concerned with the reduction in carbon emissions from the combustion of fossil fuels. This has arisen from a proliferation of theories of climate, encapsulated in complex numerical models, which purport to relate global surface air temperature to the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. All this activity is based on a single empirical observation, viz.: that there has been a significant increase in global average temperature over the last century and a half. Here we show that this observation is false and is based on an overly-simplistic interpretation of the data.

    (Nine pages of technical stuff)

    Conclusion
    The process which gives rise to a red spectrum flattened below a cut-off frequency is widely found in engineering and in nature. In electronics it occurs when electronic noise is fed through an RC integrator as with the bass control of an audio amplifier. In the natural world it occurs when energy is randomly stored. It is a particular sort of Markov process termed a “centrally biased random walk” and known colloquially as “red noise”. Using the techniques described above other “oscillations” such as the Pacific Decade Oscillation can also be shown to be centrally biased random walks specified by a small number of ARMA parameters. This is not surprising since the PDO is derived from a large subset of the global average temperature data used here.

    The small increase in global average temperature observed over the last 166 years is the random variation of a centrally biased random walk. It is a red noise fluctuation. It is not significant, it is not a trend and it is not likely to continue.

    The full paper can be downloaded here.

    John Reid
    Editor

    Outstanding Australian Talent.

  117. JC

    Fuck off yourself head prefect; or do something useful like give us a brief explanation of how to invest in islam for fun and profit.

    No doubt, I’m sure it would be more useful than posting sludge like this on the site

    Ed Berry: the increase in CO2 is natural

    Fucking idiot, cronkite.

  118. cohenite

    Instead of throwing pre-school names at each other why don’t you two (JC & Cohenite) try to agree on a definition of “natural”?

    Agreed; head prefect is a natural dickhead.

    Everytime an alarmist ratbag like harken farken wanders in head prefect runs distraction while I and others are taking the idiot, harken that is not head prefect, apart.

    If I was a conspiracist, which I’m not, I’d say head prefect was having a bet each way. In fact I bet he drinks with alex turdball and invests in renewables.

  119. calli

    They need to get dam levels down or risk catastrophic failure.

    Yes, Entropy. Are you or yours affected? All the best for the next twentyfour hours or so,

  120. Rockdoctor

    Bucketing down again lucky I am on Northern Beaches so Ross Dam releases currently at 238% won’t affect me much. If Black River starts getting over major flood levels then I might get concerned… No power still, apparently worst will be tonight… Bluewater is about 30km north of Townsville and especially the area round Forestry rd is very low & prone to flooding… Cyclone Tessie’s LLCC crossed there in 2000.

  121. mh

    Everyone in SE Qld with a brain new the Wivenhoe Dam was too full in the Spring of 2010 heading into a La Niña summer. Michael Smith who was broadcasting on 4bc at that time would get calls everyday from locals saying water had to be released. Nothing was done, and Brisbane went underwater when the inevitable water release was actioned during a massive rain event. I recall that this fvck up even triggered a national levy (tax).

    I have no confidence that NQ dams would be in safe hands.

  122. Stimpson J. Cat

    Okay Sir Stimpson.
    Do you measure by weight or volume?

    Let me tell you my rule for art and life.

    Form must not compromise function, but enhance it, to create a pleasing aesthetic beloved of the beholders eye.

  123. JC

    Everytime an alarmist ratbag like harken farken wanders in head prefect runs distraction while I and others are taking the idiot, harken that is not head prefect, apart.

    No I don’t, Cronkite is lying. Harksie is equally as deplorable as Cronkite as I’ve pointed this out many times.

    If I was a conspiracist, which I’m not, I’d say head prefect was having a bet each way. In fact I bet he drinks with alex turdball and invests in renewables.

    Do people see what a hallucinating dickhead this idiot is. Even Nova got rid of this loser.

  124. cohenite

    RobK

    #2924508, posted on February 3, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    Ed Berry: the increase in CO2 is natural
    Atmospheric Physicist John Reid at Blackjay also says there is no cause for alarm.It’s all just bollocks

    Thanks for that RobK. The link doesn’t work though. The fact that climate on Earth is a bounded random walk has long been discussed. John Reid’s effort will be a good contribution to that. The problem is convincing politicians who are scared of a left-wing media which cannot be dissuaded from its support of alarmism.

  125. bespoke

    Did you miss Lizzie discussing her Big Naturals the other day, Stimp’s?

  126. cohenite

    Even Nova got rid of this loser.

    I’ll tell you what head prefect; we’ll both go over to Jo’s site and see who lasts the longest. There’s currently an unthreaded up there so it’ll be perfect. Ladies before gentlemen so you comment first.

  127. Pedro the Ignorant

    A metre of rain in Townsville.

    I haven’t seen any rain since October last year.

    Therefore the Australian average rainfall is well below the median.

    H/T Flannery

  128. Confused Old Misfit

    Your not making any sense JC.
    Any relevant points you may be trying to make are being drowned by the brown the noise of your vituperative commentary.

  129. RobK

    http://blackjay.net/?p=386
    Try this one, it has the redundant http removed. Apologies.

  130. Entropy
    the paleoclimate studies suggest that the three centuries before were much wetter than now

    Eggsactly.
    I have had more than physicist pitch the argument that we really don’t know where we are in the cycle (if there is one) and how long those weather cycles might be (in Ostraya).
    Whereas Europe has an ~2000 year qualitative history. We have 200 years.

  131. MatrixTransform

    Flanneries is a log scale

  132. I have no confidence that NQ dams would be in safe hands.

    Fact Check – TRUE

  133. Myrddin Seren

    I. Have. Absolutely.No.Doubt.Whatsoever.

    Governor Dr Nathan Bedford Mengele-Northam:

    Democrat Ralph Northam suggests that blackface/KKK hoods were “commonplace” in his environment growing up

    Back in Da Good Ole Days !

    Truth !

  134. Stimpson J. Cat

    All you need to know about Global Warming, or Climate Change, is this:

    There are lots and lots of rich very powerful people who are absolutely enraged that Mad Max hasn’t happened yet.
    They are very very upset.
    They find it very vexing indeed.

  135. Flanneries is a log scale

    I thought it used imaginary numbers.

  136. Stimpson J. Cat

    What time is the Cage Match on Jo Novas so I can set my alarm please?

  137. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hark BeauGan – it’s clear you have no independent thoughts on climate change, simply being a one man cheer squad for the men-in-their-sheds-know-better-than-active-research-scientists school of climate change knowledge, given you are so easily conned by graph squinter Bruce.

    Hark – I was going to be nice but I came across this passage in church today.
    2 Corinthians 11:14-15
    Seems rather apt. You may find your next performance appraisal quite arduous.

  138. What time is the Cage Match on Jo Novas so I can set my alarm please?

    Kinky Keith to be referee.

  139. JC

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2924521, posted on February 3, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    Your not making any sense JC.

    If I slowed it down anymore Misfit it would take an hour to sound out a vowel. Do keep up.

  140. cohenite

    Thanks RobK; that’s John’s 2016 paper. I thought he’d written another one. It’s a disgrace his work and the work of others who have done similar work like David Stockwell and Bye et al are not considered more. The reason they aren’t is money, ego, ideology and the fact they’re initially too difficult. Alarmism has prospered because it has been condensed to slogans easily transmitted through the usual avenues.

  141. Confused Old Misfit

    If I slowed it down anymore Misfit it would take an hour to sound out a vowel. Do keep up.

    It would be a lot easier, JC, if you were rational.
    Just because you can talk fast and shout loudly does not guarantee intelligibility.
    Do learn to communicate.

  142. cohenite

    What time is the Cage Match on Jo Novas so I can set my alarm please?

    Head prefect has first comment. You know how ladies like to keep you waiting.

  143. egg_

    My view is that humans don’t compete with geological scale.

    Methinks the biosphere doesn’t compete with volcanism.
    Funny that the CO2 monitoring station is sited in Hawaii…

  144. Confused Old Misfit

    Funny that the CO2 monitoring station is sited in Hawaii…

    I’ve often wondered about that.

  145. MatrixTransform

    I thought it used imaginary numbers.

    lol, similar the units of Gorebulls

    very useful in describing the phase relationships between rhetoric and reality

  146. egg_

    All you need to know about Global Warming, or Climate Change, is this:

    Rev Al Gore, the carpetbagger

  147. RobK

    The other day there was some to-ing and fro-ing over the Steffan-Boltzman Law. I didn’t enter the fray but I just now happened to note John Reid made reference to that in the comments of the link I posted above. Below are sections of two of the comments which i think are well articulated.

    There are various feedbacks, both positive and negative, in the climate system operating on different time scales. Positive feedbacks cause very rapid variations from one extreme state to another, e.g. ice-age terminations.

    At short time scales the most important feedback is the Stefan-Boltzmann Law – temperature loss by radiation is proportional to the fourth power of the absolute temperature. The fourth power means it is pretty strong negative feedback but the issue is confused by the fact that the atmosphere is partially opaque in the infra-red. However, sea surface temperatures in the tropics rarely rise above 28 deg C because at higher temperatures tropical storm convection kicks in and carries the latent heat to the top of the atmosphere (where it is radiated into space according to the SB Law) – another negative feedback.

    In the context of my paper these negative feedbacks could be the reason why the spectrum is flat at low frequencies. This prevents the time series from being a true random walk rather than only a centrally biased random walk; the earth cannot go on getting hotter and hotter forever.

    And

    The point that I want to get over is the idea of red noise, i.e. quantities that vary randomly but which look like cycles and trends on short time scales. It is easy to explain to people who have a background in electronics but lay people think noise means white noise. I have started creating some .wav (sound) files in order to get the message over. Might make a good YouTube if I can get some fancy graphics to go with it.

    Not only is global average temperature red noise but so are all of these “oscillations” that the climate people carry on about: the PDO, the AMO the Indian Ocean Dipole are too. Then there are things like rainfall, ice cover, Great Barrier Reef issues. This misunderstanding of the underlying statistical properties of natural phenomena underpins the whole Green philosophy. Without realizing it the Greens depend heavily on pre-Planck 19th Century science whereby Nature is seen as a clockwork mechanism. It isn’t. Paley was wrong.

    I hope this is helpful.

  148. Makka

    They need to get dam levels down or risk catastrophic failure.

    Another catastrophist. Like Brisbane a few years back, couldn’t be anything to do with human decision making managing dam levels.

  149. mh

    Rapper Bow Wow Who Threatened to ‘Pimp’ First Lady Arrested on Battery Charges

    Rapper Bow Wow was arrested on battery charges on Saturday in Atlanta after police broke up a fight involving an unidentified woman….

    Last March, Bow Wow, who broke into the music business as Lil Bow Wow, threatened to “pimp” First Lady Melania Trump.

    “Ayo @realDonaldTrump shut your punk ass up talking sh*t about my uncle @SnoopDogg before we pimp your wife and make her work for us,” he tweeted on March 15.

    (Breitbart)

  150. Entropy

    #2924511, posted on February 3, 2019 at 6:32 pm
    They need to get dam levels down or risk catastrophic failure.

    Yes, Entropy. Are you or yours affected? All the best for the next twentyfour hours or so,

    No close family, but I have a lot of friends that are being evacuated.

  151. Entropy

    You know nothing, Makka.

  152. egg_

    Not only is global average temperature red noise but so are all of these “oscillations” that the climate people carry on about: the PDO, the AMO the Indian Ocean Dipole are too.

    +1

    Every time electronics equivalents are applied to complex systems we get clarity, and hopefully sweep the Gore-like charlatans from the room.

    Long term chaotic systems are being interpreted as cyclical in the short term by numpties with zero comprehension of physics – Rutherford’s “stamp collectors”.

  153. Entropy

    Update Flood Warning – SEWS

    Warning Area: Ross River Catchment/s
    Regions: Northern ROC
    DDMGs: Townsville DDMG
    LDMGs: Townsville LDMG

    Additional Information
    A Severe Weather Warning remains current for this catchment.

    Weather Warning
    IDQ20735
    Australian Government Bureau of Meteorology, Queensland
    Media: Transmitters serving the Ross, Bohle and Black Rivers are REQUESTED TO
    USE THE STANDARD EMERGENCY WARNING SIGNAL BEFORE BROADCASTING THIS MESSAGE.
    TOP PRIORITY: The Bureau and Emergency Services would appreciate this message
    being broadcast regularly.
    Major Flood Warning for the Ross River
    Moderate Flood Warning for the Bohle and Flood Warning for the Black River and
    Bluewater Creek
    Issued at 5:47 pm EST on Sunday 3 February 2019
    Flood Warning Number: 36
    RISK TO LIFE AND PROPERTY
    Dangerous and high velocity flows will occur in the Ross River Sunday night
    into Monday. Unprecedented areas of flooding will occur in Townsville. Expect
    access routes to be cut.
    Conditions will change rapidly and continuously. Stay informed, look for
    updates and follow advice of emergency services.
    IMPORTANT INFOMATION FROM TOWNSVILLE CITY COUNCIL:
    Residents in many suburbs across Townsville are warned that they may experience
    flooding from rapid rises of the Ross River. This includes Rosslea, Hermit
    Park, Railway Estate, Townsville City, Oonoonba, Idalia, Cluden, West End,
    Rowes Bay, Garbutt, Aitkenvale, Cranbrook, Currajong, Mysterton, Pimlico,
    Mundingburra, Douglas, Annandale, Kirwan and Thuringowa Central and South
    Townsville areas.
    Everyone in the above suburbs should ensure they move away from riverbanks and
    get to higher ground before 8.30pm Sunday night. Residents still in their homes
    in these suburbs should move to the highest ground in their dwelling before
    8.30pm Sunday night.
    A map of potential inundated properties will released shortly by Townsville
    City Council.

  154. cohenite

    The other day there was some to-ing and fro-ing over the Steffan-Boltzman Law. I didn’t enter the fray

    In future please do.

  155. Rockdoctor

    At 238%. Would concur that management again has been the weak link. But we seem to keep voting for idiots… Jenny Hill & Palace”chook” I am looking at you…

  156. Makka

    I don’t know your family situation entropy, but mine and friends of family have lived in FNQ for over 7 decades. I have lived and visited there regularly since the mid 70’s. In FNQ at times it rains a lot. A real LOT over very short periods. Anyone with a modicum of sense knows that and accepts that. It’s fact that there has been massive changes in water and run off management during that time. Now being tested most like likely.

    You’re a wowser. Late comers tend to be like that. Townsville gets flooded but a few hundred km’s up the road it situation nothing unusual ergo localised climate catastrophe? Gimme a fkn break.

  157. Entropy

    Ross River:
    The Ross River dam spillway gates may open to their full setting between the
    hours of 8.30pm Sunday night and 6am Monday. This setting would release up to
    2000 cubic metres of water per second out of the dam.
    The Ross River at Aplin Weir will exceed the major flood level (2.90 m) Sunday
    evening.
    Bohle River:
    Flooding has eased on the Little Bohle. Moderate flood levels continue on the
    Bohle River with renewed rises possible.
    No observations are currently available for the Bohle River at Mt Bohle. Based
    on upstream river levels, the Bohle River at Mt Bohle is expected to be above
    the moderate flood level of 5.50 metres and falling. The Bohle River at Mt
    Bohle is likely to remain above the moderate flood level (5.50 m) during
    Sunday. Renewed rises similar to those recorded in previous days are possible.
    Black River and Bluewater Creek:
    Stream levels along the Black River and Bluewater Creek are falling and both
    remain below the minor flood level. Renewed rises similar to those recorded in
    previous days are possible with further heavy rainfall.

  158. Empire 5:5

    Wow. Planned Parenthood will pay you a salary if half a mil oz to kill people and you can’t get arrested.

    In November, Planned Parenthood came under fire for the contrast between its declining health services and handsome compensation for top executives; between 2015 and 2017, the average compensation for a Planned Parenthood affiliate CEO rose from $237,999 to $255,523, while the average compensation to top executives during that same period rose from $389,514 to $394,893.

    ttps://www.lifesitenews.com/news/planned-parenthoods-new-annual-report-abortions-profits-tax-funding-all-ros

    Meanwhile, infacticidest (aka murdering sadist) and DEMOCRAT Governor Northam refuses to resign, not because he advocates for killing newborns, but because his college handle Coonman and his penchant for Michael Jackson get-up (the only issue the fakestream sought answers to at his PC) is a terrible case of mistaken identity.

    What is clear is that Governor Northam is beholden to the same people who pay half mil salaries for killing kids.

    Planned Parenthood’s Virginia affiliate plans to spend $3 million to help elect Democrat Ralph Northam as the state’s next governor.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/va-arm-of-planned-parenthood-to-spend-3-million-backing-northam-for-governor/2017/08/02/ccea4b5c-7795-11e7-8839-ec48ec4cae25_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f3701f75dce7

    WaPo reported this before he was elected, but now seems more interested in his college klan buddies.

    The MSM is walking off a cliff, having now obviously revealed itself as a mega-mutant distraction squirrel, funded and tolerated for no other purpose than to shit propaganda pellets and false narrative stools to keep the populace ignorant and anxious.

  159. Entropy

    You’re a wowser. Late comers tend to be like that. Townsville gets flooded but a few hundred km’s up the road it situation nothing unusual ergo localised climate catastrophe? Gimme a fkn break.

    While it true that even 50kms from Townsville it is a pretty typical monsoon, it is an extremely unusual confluence of events above Townsville. It hasn’t happened quite like this before. There was the Night of Noah back in the day, but it was a smaller town then. You sir, are wrong.

  160. RobK

    Every time electronics equivalents are applied to complex systems we get clarity,
    In John Reids paper he mentions that much of the maths regarding red noise was developed by the stock market gurus. They have to be good for something.☺

  161. RobK

    My best wishes to those braving the elements in FNQ.

  162. Empire 5:5

    Wow. Planned Parenthood will pay you a half a mil oz salary to harvest humans and you can’t get arrested.

    In November, Planned Parenthood came under fire for the contrast between its declining health services and handsome compensation for top executives; between 2015 and 2017, the average compensation for a Planned Parenthood affiliate CEO rose from $237,999 to $255,523, while the average compensation to top executives during that same period rose from $389,514 to $394,893.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/planned-parenthoods-new-annual-report-abortions-profits-tax-funding-all-ros

    Meanwhile, infacticidest (aka murdering sadist) and DEMOCRAT Governor Northam refuses to resign, not because he advocates for snuffing newborns, but because his college handle Coonman and his penchant for Michael Jackson get-up (the only issue the fakestream sought answers to at his PC) is a terrible case of mistaken identity.

    What is clear is that Governor Northam is beholden to the same people who pay half mil salaries for killing kids.

    Planned Parenthood’s Virginia affiliate plans to spend $3 million to help elect Democrat Ralph Northam as the state’s next governor.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/va-arm-of-planned-parenthood-to-spend-3-million-backing-northam-for-governor/2017/08/02/ccea4b5c-7795-11e7-8839-ec48ec4cae25_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f3701f75dce7

    WaPo reported this before he was elected, but now seems more interested in his college klan buddies.

    The MSM is walking off a cliff, having now obviously revealed itself as a mega-mutant distraction squirrel, funded and tolerated for no other purpose than to shit propaganda pellets and false narrative stools to keep the populace ignorant and anxious.

  163. Bruce of Newcastle

    While it true that even 50kms from Townsville it is a pretty typical monsoon, it is an extremely unusual confluence of events above Townsville.

    Snuck in behind the Magnetic island rain shadow. Happens every now and again.

  164. egg_

    the stock market

    Chaos + numpty participation

    What could go wrong?

  165. feelthebern

    The Oz reporting a Saviour Arab at Brisbane Airport last night.

  166. Leo G

    He also argues that isotope analysis supports the view that of the tiny total ~0.0004 fraction of CO2 in the atmosphere the human provided fraction is ~0.000012.

    The argument is misleading.
    The average residence time of a CO2 molecule in the atmosphere appears to be brief- a decade or less- due to equilibrating exchanges between ocean and atmosphere. The virtual half-life of so-called anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere appears to be about a quarter of a century.
    It’s possible that virtual half-life figure includes the effect of some unidentified natural process. In any case, I expect a natural response to the anthropogenic emissions disturbance to be evident once the rate of increase of anthropogenic emissions stabilises or drops.

  167. egg_

    much of the maths regarding red noise was developed by the stock market gurus.

    I told youse it was Bistromatics modelling.

  168. struth

    Hark re Townsville:

    Mr Gunn said 1,012mm of rain fell on Townsville Airport over the seven days to 9:00am, “smashing” the previous weekly rainfall record of 886mm, set in 1998.

    As predicted by climate change scientists (the ones in the consensus.)

    As I noted to candy recently: this is happening under a 1 degree temperature rise. You really think another 1 to 2 degrees is going to be no biggie?

    But yeah, let the grandkids work that one out, hey?

    Our resident scare -d – CAT troll taken in again.

    The people playing with these uneducated young’ns are really having fun with this it seems.

    Hark, doomsday sniveller.
    When some one quotes one specific spot getting rain in FNQ during a period known to us as “the wet season” as a sign of approaching Geobbel’s warning catastrophe, we laugh heartily.
    This is why older well travelled people are the ones you should listen too, and not the Marxists brainwashing you.
    Anyone up here knows how the wet season works and how massive rain storms hit.
    And here’s a tip for you, ……..it doesn’t rain equally everywhere at the same time.
    Some places almost entirely miss out on any huge downpour one year and get inundated the next.
    The thunder storm doesn’t track the exact same path every year , at the same time.
    Big rainfall lasting weeks is not uncommon during the wet over different areas every year.
    So quoting one place is about the most dishonest thing anyone can do, and only meant to scare da kiddies.

    Townsville, if you haven’t been there, which I doubt you’ve been anywhere enough yet, grew rapidly due to the last mining boom, and investment by government in the armed forces bases, over the last few years.
    All nice modern brick homes in their thousands to cope with housing thousands of wet season ignorant southerners that had moved there for the boom.
    All built on low, low , flat ground, especially on the north side.
    Now older QLD homes were put on stilts to cope with these floods, but oh no, not for the new commodore and speed boat set, and newly (at the time ) rich from mining.
    They got their brick homes built in old reclaimed swamp areas in development I could not believe I was seeing.
    They just whacked ground level brick homes up in their hundreds on flat ground quickly in shoddy, corrupt development deals, and now we have a wet season.

    Makka will know exactly what I am talking about.

    So don’t fear, Harken, it’s human induced flooding alright, but not by the way you think.
    However instead of boo- hooing all over this nice dry blog about the end of the world, go tell the Chinese and the Indians off.
    They’re the ones building those power stations in the hundreds that you dread.

    You little fHarken idiot.

  169. Stimpson J. Cat

    The Oz reporting a Saviour Arab at Brisbane Airport last night.

    Welcome to Mental Illness Brother!

    I bid you welcome in my tent!

  170. Chaos + numpty participation = Entropy

    Disorder rules.

    Ask Entropy.

  171. egg_

    When some one quotes one specific spot getting rain in FNQ during a period known to us as “the wet season” as a sign of approaching Geobbel’s warning catastrophe

    = Farkwit

  172. Chaos. Any modellers out there?

    How does one model a chaotic system?

  173. old bloke

    egg_
    #2924440, posted on February 3, 2019 at 5:20 pm

    Bible’s Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed by an exploding asteroid, says archaeologists

    Sodom destroyed by a [email protected] ‘roid?
    Where’s the Nunbot?

    The cities of the plain were on the western side of the Dead Sea, not the eastern side as that linked article appears to indicate. Some of the cities have been located, see here.

  174. Entropy

    Two weeks ago Townsville was at level 2 water restrictions and the dam was less than 65%.
    As of 5:00pm, it was at 241%

  175. Bruce of Newcastle

    How does one model a chaotic system?

    Monte Carlo, ie lots of runs. Gives you a spectrum of outcomes.

  176. The virtual half-life of so-called anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere …

    I have never understood why this is special CO2.
    One burp from something like Erebus drops a few years worth of man made effort into the atmosphere.

  177. Stimpson J. Cat

    How does one model a chaotic system?

    Well I typically look in the mirror and try Blue Steel, although I can’t really make it work without hair so I usually end up with Bald Steel instead.

  178. egg_

    Chaos. Any modellers out there?

    How does one model a chaotic system?

    “I think the answer is far more simple as demonstrated on that webpage, namely “Bistromatics“.
    The science of bistromatics was documented for the first time by Douglas Adams in his book “The restaurant at the end of the Universe”.
    The main premise of this theory is as follows:
    Quote
    Chaos. Any modellers out there?

    How does one model a chaotic system?
    Numbers written on restaurant bills behave quit different from any other number on any other piece of paper anywhere in the universe
    On of the most important achievements based on this theory was the possibility to travel faster than light.
    As long as people are eating in the engine-room the laws of physics (especially relativity in this case) don’t apply. Actually as soon as there is food involved the laws of physics are challenged.
    So due to the buttered piece of bread the cat is no longer protected by the law that he will allways land on its feet.”

  179. struth

    Two weeks ago Townsville was at level 2 water restrictions and the dam was less than 65%.
    As of 5:00pm, it was at 241%

    Classic wet season.
    Towns flood.
    I said to a couple of mates when we were parked up at the then relatively new BP Truck stop that when they get a big wet in Townsville there is going to be hell to pay.
    The massive development on low land , and low brick housing to boot was astounding.
    I haven’t read the thread back properly Entropy, but if you are one of those newbies toTownsville, you might be in for a whack.
    It was bound to hhappen.

    QLD is a large place.
    Flooding occurs all over it in the wet season and from time to time towns cop it.
    When Townsville does, as I say, it’s not going to be pretty.

  180. egg_

    How does one model a chaotic system?

    Monty in a field of rakes?

  181. Entropy #2924580, posted on February 3, 2019 at 7:51 pm

    NQ and Far NQ are awesome.

  182. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bible’s Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed by an exploding asteroid, says archaeologists

    Castro nearly catastroed!

    Meteorite hits Cuba causing loud explosion (1 Feb)

    The meteorite ripped through the sky before exploding and raining debris on homes in Cuba, according to The Sun.

    Locals in the town of Viñales reported hearing a loud explosion during the impact, according to a tweet from CNN’s Havana-based correspondent, Patrick Oppmann.

    A warning shot! After all the dinosaur killer hit only about 500 km west of there. If there was ever a bunch of dinosaurs it would be the Castros.

  183. Boambee John

    Barken Mad at 1721

    This is a very significant increase in a protracted rainfall intensity record.

    Strangely, such an increase in rainfall was not predicted by our top exspurt on Goebbels Warming, Perfesser Tim Flummery. Indeed, he assured us that the rain had gone away and drought was the new “normal”. Who to believe? It’s a conundrum.

  184. Tom

    Struth, go easy on Entropy. Good man — even though he works for the gubbermint.

  185. RobK

    How does one model a chaotic system?
    Work that out and you will be JCs best friend, in fact, everyone’s best friend.

  186. Leo G

    Hark re Townsville:
    Mr Gunn said 1,012mm of rain fell on Townsville Airport over the seven days to 9:00am, “smashing” the previous weekly rainfall record of 886mm, set in 1998.
    As predicted by climate change scientists (the ones in the consensus.)
    As I noted to candy recently: this is happening under a 1 degree temperature rise. You really think another 1 to 2 degrees is going to be no biggie?

    The time frame for the reference “1 degree temperature rise” was the period 1910 to 2018. It’s not clear that there has been a significant increase in surface air temperatures across Australia since 1998.

  187. Makka

    Twenty years ago in 1998 over a 24 hour period , Townsville experience 564 mm of rainfall over a 24 hour period. During all of Jan Jan 2019, the total was 445 mm .

    The wettest Jan on record in Townsville was 1141 mm in 1954. More than double the the Jan 2019 numbers.

    I’m sure Townsville is having a very big wet season. And in general, it is a good deal dryer than say Cairns. The geography and vegetation around T’ville attest to this . BUT very big rains and floods have hit T’ville before. In that respect , what is happening now has been seen several times before so cannot be classed as “new”. The significant difference now being that, as struth says upthread, recent years (last 20-30) of huge population growth, development , construction and water run off management using academic models have all introduced vastly different hydrology outcomes to the city and suburbs which are just now perhaps being discovered and tested.

    So from where I sit, the flood damage being endured currently can be traced back to rolling the dice on planning and creating an urban environment in a tropical location UN-suitable for the known big rainfall periods previously experienced. There’s your catastrophe. Not the weather.

    Good luck T’ville. It looks like you are going to need it.

  188. Confused Old Misfit

    How does one model a chaotic system?

    Fiddle the Fibonacci ratios?

  189. struth

    Goebel’s warning is causing heat and cold, dry and wet, yes it’s causing, wait for it……………..weather.
    Not only that it refuses to supply the world with the 22 degrees year round temp and disasterously keeps delivering the…………………. weather….. complete with bloody seasons.
    A boo hoo if there ever was one.

  190. struth

    I’m not having a go at entropy, I’m seriously suggesting that if he is one of those people living in Townsville that are relatively new to wet seasons, to be vigilant .

  191. Leo G

    Monty in a field of rakes?

    Random walk.

  192. Ah seen the size of the creek beds inland from Townsville and Charters Towers (and on the Mt Isa road).
    Awesomely huge, presumably for awesomely huge rain.

  193. RobK

    BoN,
    Monte Carlo, ie lots of runs. Gives you a spectrum of outcomes.
    Be careful that you don’t start to sound like a climate scientist. 🙄

  194. egg_

    “In a declining market, a pivot point and the support levels may represent a low price level of stability or a resistance to further decline.”

    Izzat like the Trumble-SloMo death spiral?

  195. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Or Student Council Secretary Lizzie.

    Oi! With my dance talents? And I am hopeless at taking minutes. Or listening to student drivel.
    Put me down for baton leader of the All Dancing Drumettes’ Pom-Pom Girls’ Cheer Squad.
    I will make you all proud and sort out the men from the boys my way. 🙂

  196. We’ve had another 0.1 of a Flannery today.
    So exciting!

  197. All Dancing Drumettes’ Pom-Pom Girls’ Cheer Squad. who chant “incoh, incoh….”

  198. Leo G

    I have never understood why this is special CO2.

    The warmies once claimed it was magical- that one half the anthropogenic emissions were immediately sequestered and the other half remained in the atmosphere for tens of thousands of years.

  199. Empire 5:5

    Classic wet season.
    Towns flood.
    I said to a couple of mates when we were parked up at the then relatively new BP Truck stop that when they get a big wet in Townsville there is going to be hell to pay.
    The massive development on low land , and low brick housing to boot was astounding.
    I haven’t read the thread back properly Entropy, but if you are one of those newbies toTownsville, you might be in for a whack.
    It was bound to hhappen.

    I had this very discussion with my old man two weeks back. He lived there late 40s/early 50s. His last visit was a few years back. The development “raised his eyebrows” as he put it.

  200. Bruce of Newcastle

    We’ve had another 0.1 of a Flannery today.
    So exciting!

    When you start getting Gores it won’t be so much fun.
    Lots of Gores falling on the US and UK at the moment.
    One Gore-foot means a lot of work for the snow blower.
    And you really don’t want to encounter a Gore second chakra.

  201. Thanks for Chaos posts.
    I do like Wolfram’s Principle of Computational Equivalence.

    He argues that to model a complex system there is a point where the only model that works is the system itself. (And then you get realtime reality)

  202. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    You must have been a pleasure as a husband.

    Oooh. Deep psychology. Wish fulfilment expression. Harken is a secret groupie who is now turning thoughts to romance. Is Harken a gurrlllll by any chance? Or a gay guy on the make?

    Sic Sparky onto the case, Beaugy. We have a lonely heart here.

  203. dopey

    State of the Union speech postponed for JC vs Cohenite.

  204. zyconoclast

    Woke Evangelicals: Cultivating Victimhood, Vanquishing Conscience

    With astonishing speed, the evangelical world has been invaded by social justice ideology. In a recent podcast, the current president of the Southern Baptist Convention (until now a theologically conservative body), J.D. Greear, highlighted “white privilege” as a serious moral issue for Christians. Likewise, David Platt, former president of the SBC’s International Mission Board, browbeat evangelicals for having too much of the same skin color: “Why are so many of our churches so white?”

    At another historically conservative denomination, the Presbyterian Church of America, things are not any better. Its institution and my own alma mater, Covenant Seminary, hosted a conference on race whose onetime director was a Black Lives Matter activist. Furthermore, the seminary and the PCA denomination as a whole have been embroiled in controversy over the Revoice Conference, which promotes the idea of LGBT victimhood.

    Though these evangelicals may be “woke” about some issues, they are definitely asleep about others. For instance, concern about the plight of the aborted unborn has been waning among them. In a YouTube video, a recent graduate of the SBC’s Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary observes that these days, one frequently hears about social justice issues on campus but rarely about abortion. Among woke evangelicals, ironically, victimhood ideology has managed to push into the shadows conspicuous sins against present-day victims. This reveals a significant corruption of conscience

  205. Geriatric Mayfly

    At snowgrass.co.nz webcam pics are relayed on the hour from the Fox Glacier in New Zealand. Stunning scenery today, as little cloud. But what do I spy? Since yesterday, a major collapse of ice at the meltwater outlet tunnel. Global warming in the raw, as it works its wicked ways and the glacier retreats another few metres, much to the applause of the warmunists.

  206. zyconoclast

    Who released the Ralph Northam KKK/blackface photo? Why now?

    The first step is to ask the famous Latin question, “Cui bono?” “Who benefits?”

    It is pretty clear to me that the abortion industry and its political handmaidens were desperate to change the subject from a physician advocating terminating a life after birth as part of the push by states to legalize just about anything that kills a baby anytime before it is sent home from the hospital. This is because there is genuine fear that the new majority on the Supreme Court will modify or eliminate Roe v. Wade’s blanket federal approval, and send the issue to the states.

    Vermont already is considering an even more radical permissive abortion bill than New York’s. Attention to Northam’s position can only hamper the progress of this effort. So, it is pretty clear that the self-interest of abortion advocates would make them want to change the subject. And what better way to do that than throw out this picture?

  207. One ScoMo doesn’t make a Spring

    Had a pleasant afternoon catching up with a friend from Sth Africa. He has returned to Australia permanently. He earns comparable $ in SA however the tax was killing him. Fortunately he was able to return to AUS. He tells me 35% of the population is under 20 yo. They cannot read, write. Unemployable. The taxes from those who produce go to the do nots or can nots. Hence the educated are fleeing the country.

    Beside Economc differences we sat in an outdoor bar in Melbourne drank beer and enjoyed the sights. He kept repeating he could never do this in SA . Australians for all our faults do not know how lucky we are.

    I agreed however observed our government is committed to shitholification and I will resist.

  208. Leigh Lowe

    Parts of North Sodom evacuated today due to a bushfire.
    Been watching the emergency advice.
    People being told to be wary of drinking tank water because of contamination by ash, embers and … fire retardant residues.
    Uh, oh.
    Today the hippies were screaming “save my house!” (mainly because they don’t believe in Big Insurance).
    By the end of next week they will be bleating about having Big Chemicals dumping carcinogens on them and demanding new rooves, guttering and tanks and a bundle of compo.
    And there will be not a word said about the constant blockers put in the way of fuel reduction burns for twenty years.

  209. Stimpson J. Cat

    if he is one of those people living in Townsville that are relatively new to wet seasons, to be vigilant .

    Be Pure, Behave!

  210. Bruce of Newcastle

    Who released the Ralph Northam KKK/blackface photo? Why now?

    Maybe a clue is who the Vermont Lieutenant Governor is?
    Quite the progressive.

  211. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The wettest Jan on record in Townsville was 1141 mm in 1954

    thats deep enough to drown a troll

  212. Oooh. Deep psychology. Wish fulfilment expression. Harken is a secret groupie who is now turning thoughts to romance. Is Harken a gurrlllll by any chance? Or a gay guy on the make?

    Good pick up there Lizzie.
    A little dose of bitch in every reply.

  213. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #2924615, posted on February 3, 2019 at 8:48 pm

    Ah, GM.
    It is interesting to visit Fox and Franz Josef glaciers and look at the markers showing the advance and retreat of the ice face over time.
    But wait.
    What is this?
    It has been advancing and retreating for centuries, even prior to the industrial revolution.
    WTF?

  214. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And there will be not a word said about the constant blockers put in the way of fuel reduction burns for twenty years.

    Fuel load here is almost back to where it was before the catastrophic bush fire, of ten years ago, this December. Local Greenies, most of who have moved here since that fire, hinder every attempt at controlled burns.

  215. DrBeauGan

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2924610, posted on February 3, 2019 at 8:35 pm
    You must have been a pleasure as a husband.

    Oooh. Deep psychology. Wish fulfilment expression. Harken is a secret groupie who is now turning thoughts to romance. Is Harken a gurrlllll by any chance? Or a gay guy on the make?

    Sic Sparky onto the case, Beaugy. We have a lonely heart here.

    You may be right, Lizzie. But even if Harken is a tall, skinny, oversexed, teenage blonde, she hasn’t got an IQ high enough to interest me. If the price of a shag is getting preached at, I want at least some originality in the preaching.

    And if it’s just a poof, yeuk.

  216. Mater

    People being told to be wary of drinking tank water because of contamination by ash, embers and … fire retardant residues.

    LL,
    In 2014 they were reloading directly from the local sewerage treatment plant and dumping it on our roofs…and it went straight into our water tanks.
    It’s good advice. God only knows where the water is coming from.
    Your tanks will need to be sanitised afterwards.

  217. 132andBush

    Monty in a field of rakes?

    There is a base level of predictability in that.

  218. hinder every attempt at controlled burns.

    Or stop sheep/goats/cattle grazing forested areas and roadsides.
    Cattle are an excellent way of keeping undergrowth under control.

  219. cohenite

    In John Reids paper he mentions that much of the maths regarding red noise was developed by the stock market gurus. They have to be good for something.☺

    Don’t tell head prefect.

    Modelling chaotic systems is not quite what climate models have to do because the randomness of earth’s climate is bounded. For instance over all geological history the global temperature range has only been 17C.

  220. stackja

    Ross River Dam reminds of Wivenhoe Dam 2011.

  221. Leigh Lowe

    Fuel load here is almost back to where it was before the catastrophic bush fire, of ten years ago, this December. Local Greenies, most of who have moved here since that fire, hinder every attempt at controlled burns.

    We have two choices in this country … controlled burns or uncontrolled burns … because it WILL burn eventually.
    The peculiarity of the topography here is extremely deep and steep gullies, which are totally inaccessible by vehicle and you wouldn’t drop walking crews in on a TFB day. These dickheads – who insist on building their dream house on the edge of a ridge – don’t understand the mechanics of fire. It may take three hours to burn down one side of the gully but will race up the upslope in minutes.
    And, FMD, if a fire starts spotting into one of those gullies it will fry them by the dozen.

  222. stackja

    Spillway gates on dam expected to be fully open between 8pm and 8.30pm
    Heavy rainfall into the Ross River Dam catchment is expected to push the water level to a height which will automatically open the spillway gates to full between 8pm and 8.30pm.

    Residents in the following suburbs should get to higher ground immediately:

    This includes Rosslea, Hermit Park, Railway Estate, Townsville City, Oonoonba, Idalia, Cluden, West End, Rowes Bay, Garbutt, Aitkenvale, Cranbrook, Currajong, Mysterton, Pimlico, Mundingburra, Douglas, Annandale, Kirwan and Thuringowa Central and South Townsville areas.

  223. hzhousewife

    My best wishes to those braving the elements in FNQ.

    ditto
    Not good to suspect that the town planners of Townsville made a big underestimation of future weather
    events, no doubt the relevant insurance actuaries are hard at work re-evaluating.

  224. Leigh Lowe

    Your tanks will need to be sanitised afterwards.

    Oh, I agree Mater.
    But I imagine you just ran the water out onto the yard, gave the inside of the tank a good hose down and maybe flushed them a couple of times and then got on with it.
    The response from the hippies will be OTT.

  225. DrBeauGan

    You may be right, Lizzie. But even if Harken is a tall, skinny, oversexed, teenage blonde, she hasn’t got an IQ high enough to interest me. If the price of a shag is getting preached at, I want at least some originality in the preaching.

    And if it’s just a poof, yeuk.

    Aren’t angels sexless? That might be the only respect in which Harken is angelic.

  226. Nick

    My local rag had a piece on local Australia Day award winners. Front page and an interior splash, a lezzo. There was scant mention of others such as scientists for some strange reason. Each week, Gay, Abbo, Refugee, Disabled, on endless rotation.

  227. Mater

    But I imagine you just ran the water out onto the yard, gave the inside of the tank a good hose down and maybe flushed them a couple of times and then got on with it.

    Correct. Also had to buy in a couple of trucks of water afterwards to ensure the tanks didn’t blow away before the next rain.
    I do imagine that the Sodom residents will have had it harder and do it tougher than anyone previously.

  228. stackja

    Triple M Townsville SEWS gates opened

  229. Siltstone

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2924622, posted on February 3, 2019 at 8:59 pm
    The wettest Jan on record in Townsville was 1141 mm in 1954

    thats deep enough to drown a troll

    Love it Zippy!

  230. John Constantine

    https://www.thisisinsider.com/wiesn-koks-oktoberfest-drug-2016-9

    Totally legal and snorted in public by afl footy players.

    What could possibly go wrong

  231. John Constantine

    We all know what birds and possums do in the gutters that fill rainwater tanks.

  232. hzhousewife

    We all know what birds and possums do in the gutters that fill rainwater tanks.

    Increased nutritional content, what’s not to like.

  233. stackja

    Spillway gates on dam are fully open
    Published on 03/02/2019 20:24

    The Ross River Dam spillway gates are fully open now.

    Residents in the following suburbs should prepare for imminent flooding from a rapidly rising Ross River.

    This includes Rosslea, Hermit Park, Railway Estate, Townsville City, Oonoonba, Idalia, Cluden, West End, Rowes Bay, Garbutt, Aitkenvale, Cranbrook, Currajong, Mysterton, Pimlico, Mundingburra, Douglas, Annandale, Kirwan and Thuringowa Central and South Townsville areas.

  234. Leigh Lowe

    I do imagine that the Sodom residents will have had it harder and do it tougher than anyone previously.

    And therefore, by definition, will need Big Compo and more “Communidy Resources”.

    Our place was miles out of the firing line and the forecast winds were favourable for us, but we pissed off anyway.
    If they had extended the evacuation zone by 500 metres the roads would have been a total cluster-fuck.
    I would have loved to have attended the communidy meeting …
    “Has the CFA factored in the impact on the vibrancy of the arts community?”
    “Will fire retardant affect the organic certification on my kale?”
    “Can you assure us that, if we have interstate firefighters brought in, Tony Abbott will not be among them?”

  235. RobK

    He argues that to model a complex system there is a point where the only model that works is the system itself. (And then you get realtime reality)
    Well said, that man.

  236. P

    60 yrs ago today when ‘Ike’ was POTUS and ‘Ming’ was PM of Oz –

    “… just after 1 a.m., a plane carrying three rock ‘n’ roll stars and an Iowa pilot crashed into a frozen field north of Clear Lake, Iowa.
    The impact killed all four immediately, changing the course of music for decades to come.
    Across the country, a 13-year-old paperboy unfolded the next morning’s headlines to read words that’d leave him devastated.
    Buddy Holly, J.P. ‘the Big Bopper’ Richardson and Ritchie Valens died hours after striking a final note at the Surf Ballroom.
    The news crushed Don McLean.
    ‘I was crazy about Buddy Holly’, McLean, age 73, told the Register. ‘I was way into Buddy Holly. Something about him, really … he was my favorite. I listened to his records all the time.’
    Twelve years later, McLean took pen to paper and delivered ‘American Pie’, an eight-and-a-half minute acoustic epic that’d become one of the most celebrated and debated songs in popular music.
    The song opens by transporting listeners back to McLean’s 1959, to an America before the Beatles invaded Ed Sullivan and Vietnam War protests took over city blocks. ‘A long, long time ago’, he described it.
    It’s in the first verse that he coined the Iowa crash with a name that would stick for decades to come.
    ‘Something touched me deep inside the day the music died’ … ”
    Register

  237. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “… just after 1 a.m., a plane carrying three rock ‘n’ roll stars and an Iowa pilot crashed into a frozen field north of Clear Lake, Iowa.

    Didn’t Waylon Jennings give up his seat on that flight, for whatever reason?

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