Monday Forum: February 11, 2019

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  1. Top Ender

    Searchers hope to solve mystery of lost Australian WWII airmen

    By RORY CALLINAN

    For the families of 21 aircrew onboard two Australian aircraft lost in World War II, the long wait for answers might be nearly over.

    Australian soldiers are to mount an expedition, possibly as early as this month, to a Philippines island to examine a crash site that could contain wreckage of one of the missing planes. Both were lost in the region in the latter years of the war.

    Despite lengthy searches and investigations after the war, no trace was found of crews on the Liberator bomber and the Cata­lina flying boat. Generations have been left not knowing whether their relatives died in a crash or at the hands of the Japanese.

    Nine airmen were on the Cata­lina A24-64, known as the Dabster, which was tasked with dropping mines into Manila Bay on December 14, 1944.

    On the Liberator were 11 Australian aircrew and one British officer returning from a secret mission to drop Z Special Forces into Borneo on March 15, 1945.

    Both aircraft failed to return to a base at Mindoro Island in The Philippines and extensive search efforts and investigations during and after the war found no clues.

    Last year, a group of Aus­tralians associated with the embassy in Manila made a trek to a location on a mountain on the island rumoured to contain evidence of a World War II plane wreck.

    On the site, high on the mountainside and blanketed in thick lantana and jungle vines, they found .303 ammunition and other material relating to a wreck, items that were provided to Defence, which then alerted relatives to say inquiries were under way.

    This week, one of those relatives, Maree Oddy, whose mother’s first husband, James Henry Cox, was lost on the Dabster, confirmed she was contacted by air force history and heritage ­director-general Air Commodore John Meier.

    “Firstly I am pleased to inform you the air force intends to send a small team to conduct a reconnaissance of the site, most likely in February 2019, to see if the wreckage can be positively identified,’’ he said in an email.

    Ms Oddy has inquired for years about the plane’s fate after being told by a WWII airman who was on another Catalina that the Dabster was thought to have crashed into a mountain.

    She said her mother was tormented by what had happened to Jim and finding a crash site would have given her some closure. “She died not knowing. She knew the plane had not gone back and she thought it was in the ocean.”

    Also missing on Dabster are flight lieutenants Herbert Cunningham Roberts and Frank William Silvester; flying officers Robert Carlisle Barbour and Raymond Harold Bradstreet; and ­sergeants James Robert Robinson, David John Albert, John Charles MacDonald and Harold Goodchild.

    Lost on the Liberator are Squadron Leader Pockley; Pilot Officer Charles Cox; flight officers Leonard Francis Day, David Prenton Gradwell and Ronald Roy Farmer; sergeants Eric Mileham Litchfield, Robert Roland Hale, Keith Mervyn Low, Charles Kevin Ponting, Leslie Ernest Tomkin and Kenneth Charles Wilmshurst; and British army officer Major HE Ellis.

    Complete article but link

  2. bespoke

    JC
    #2932318, posted on February 12, 2019 at 10:58 pm
    Seriously guys, mh, nick etc
    Aren’t the comments getting a little over the top. Elle’s mostly harmless and she’s not some big-noting boaster bullshit artist nor scargilion. Why not just ignore if you don’t like her.

    I agree Elle was one of the characters that made the Cat but the shock value is worn out and race baiting (Elle’s self identified champion of whiteness) is not worth the time so I will ignore her. MV turned out every bit as pathetic as you described to so Ill do the same for him.

  3. calli

    Top o’ the mornin’ Cats!

    Apparently summer temperatures in the 30s are now “extreme”. As is the cool change “event” that popped through at 5am. (Seven says it “ripped”, just to make it sound more dangerous and climatey.)

    Thanks for the toons, Tom. Nothing really resonated with me today. Perhaps that’s Climate Change too.

  4. calli

    Whatever happened to the Cat rebooting at midnight?

    Thought for the day – look at what the commenter actually says, not how they say it.

    Keep the brass knuckles and assegais for the trolls.

  5. Notafan

    What please, is scargilion?

    I asked Google and it sent me back here.

  6. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Wtf is going on in the UK?

    Mother, 38, is arrested in front of her children and locked in a cell for seven HOURS after calling a transgender woman a man on Twitter

    cultural euthanasia

  7. hzhousewife

    I am waiting for the wise words of PETA regarding the poor animals up north. Why are they not jumping in their caravans and rushing up to “adopt an animal”? /sarc

  8. Baldrick

    Nice Tina Toon, thanks Tom.

  9. feelthebern

    Anyone else shivved in the VicPol purge of 2019?

  10. Mater

    After deciding to send my young lad to a Catholic High School in the hope that he’d receive a good solid education based firmly on his Christian heritage, I recently attended a family information night.

    Foremost in their selling points was their Climate Change Mitigation committee/program, ‘Social Justice’ Program (yes, those were the exact words used) and, for the pièce de résistance, a compulsory program for Year 7 boys designed to ‘deconstruct the tradition view of masculinity’.

    Don’t worry about the gay lobby coming for the religious schools, they are committing harakiri.

  11. Mother Lode

    Here is a fuller version of the Wiley cartoon.

    He is actually pretty good as a cartoonist, but a quick look at his twitter feed is disappointing.

    The usual stuff about how Trump supporters are stooopid.

    It is just the usual bog standard conceit that people who think like him are clever (and if he thinks like them he must be clever – objections to circular logic is so patriarchal), and people who proceed from different principles and draw different conclusions are stooopid.

  12. calli

    Chuckle.

    I read that as “foremost in their yelling points”, Mater.

    New glasses.

  13. Farmer Gez

    Hello!
    The Hunch has cast a spanner in the great asylum importation scheme.
    Hinch wants a security briefing as to the risks and clarification as to whether the legislation is a money bill and unconstitutional.
    Hinch states he wanted the kids out of detention, that has happened, and he believes in off shore detention.

  14. calli

    The education system, by and large, is lost. You would be hard pressed to find any school not kowtowing to the Gods of Climate and Social Justice.

    The school teachers at my church are firmly of the Left/TDS persuasion, and the lay preachers among them aren’t afraid to use the lecturn as their bully pulpit. Such is the staff room bubble.

    I am girding my loins to tackle these guys (and gals) when the opportunity presents itself. But I won’t go down the Climate/SJW route. That way leads to endless circular arguments of the “prove it” type. I believe that the abortion issue is the most powerful weapon to hit them with.

  15. Baldrick

    The Hunch has cast a spanner in the great asylum importation scheme.

    Of course he’ll support the Liars /Greenfilth bill Gez, but wants to get his liver on camera first.
    He’s not called the Human Headline for nothing.

  16. calli

    His liver has a conscience, Balders.

  17. feelthebern

    Here’s a term the MSM is getting ready to roll out:
    technical recession.

    This is a recession when Bill Shorten is PM during the 2019/2020 financial year, that the MSM & ALP boosters try to explain as:
    * it’s not really a recession;
    * it only impacts the rich;
    * (last resort) this really is Abbott/ScoMo’s fault (definitely don’t mention Turdbull).

  18. Entropy

    #2932437, posted on February 13, 2019 at 7:13 am
    I am waiting for the wise words of PETA regarding the poor animals up north. Why are they not jumping in their caravans and rushing up to “adopt an animal”? /sarc

    The vision of a Pamela Anderson type trying to walk across a muddy black soil plain to help a struggling Brahman bull is almost hilarious except for the situation.

  19. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oh noes!

    US parents reveal Peppa Pig causes children to speak with BRITISH ACCENTS

    Young fans of the popular programme, which follows the life of a pig living in a fictional UK town, are said to have picked up the different twangs of their favourite characters. Mother and writer Janet Manley, from the US, has branded this the “Peppa effect”. She wrote an article for Romper and revealed her daughter started calling her ‘mummy’ after starting to watch the show two years ago.

    Maybe someone should ask Ilhan Omar what she thinks of Peppa Pig. I suspect the answer would be the cause of much entertainment.

  20. Mother Lode

    Mother, 38, is arrested in front of her children and locked in a cell for seven HOURS after calling a transgender woman a man on Twitter

    What if she had called a female-woman a man. Or a male-man a woman. Would that have been an issue for plod?

    Of course not. Because the ‘gender’ of transfat (or whatever) is a political matter, while the gender of regular folks is not. The latter is not nothing – the government has simply not taken control of it because a bloke being a bloke is the way ordinary people think.

    The government policy is to supersede commonsense with politics.

  21. calli

    Ahahahah!

    Albanese assuring us that there are “no pull factors” relating to the odious Phelps bill. Now where and when have we heard this before?

    Australia returns to its vomit.

  22. Entropy

    The trouble with climate activists is they are split between the mob enamoured with the idea that we need to be punished for our environmental sins, and the mob enamoured with the officially approved “solution” regardless of whether or not it is the optimal one for solving the “problem”.

  23. Mother Lode

    New glasses.

    They must have those new lenses that can see through bullshit.

  24. Farmer Gez

    Eight degrees here this morning.
    The Warmening is a tad nippy.

  25. Tom

    Yes, Gez, it’s winter down on the coast as well — a brisk 12C we normally don’t start getting until June or July. The normal summer where overnight temps are 18-22 degrees lasted less than a month.

  26. Farmer Gez

    Off to feed lambs.
    The market has bounced back after a $15-25 fall in recent weeks. 620c per kilo is still cheaper than forward kill contracts at over 700c. The meeting of the contract and live markets is taking place at the moment and it will be interesting to see what happens at saleyards as the contract kill runs out of sheep. There simply isn’t the number of lambs out there to satisfy demand. Lambing percentages were hit last autumn by sterility in rams due to excess heat at joining time.

  27. duncanm

    US parents reveal Peppa Pig causes children to speak with BRITISH ACCENTS say aluminium

  28. Harken Now

    Hark Gez.

    Lambing percentages were hit last autumn by sterility in rams due to excess heat at joining time

    .

    So you’re telling us climate change will be detrimental to your industry. Thanks for the tip.

  29. Dave in Marybrook

    All of 10 degrees in Marybrook…
    and it’s all good good good. Pasture is past it, but this diurnal temp shift, ie the 15 – 20 degree difference over 24 hours, is what gets the grapes progressing.

  30. RobK

    So you’re telling us climate change will be detrimental to your industry. Thanks for the tip.
    That’s not what he said. You are projecting again….still.
    Frankly, thats all you ever do.

  31. stackja

    Sydney Hilton Hotel bombing happened on this day in 1978
    Cathy Stubbs, CENtRAL
    February 11, 2016 10:41am
    WHAT HAPPENED
    It was on this day in 1978 that a bomb exploded outside Sydney’s Hilton Hotel where the first Commonwealth Heads of Government Regional Meeting was being held.

    Described as Australia’s first terrorist attack, mystery still surrounds the bombing with many unanswered questions and persistent conspiracy theories.

    It has never been unequivocally determined who committed the bombing which killed three people.

    A member of Ananda Marga, Evan Pederick, claimed in 1989 that he had carried out the Hilton bombing on the orders of another member, Tim Anderson. Both men were given prison sentences, but Anderson was acquitted on appeal in 1991. Pederick served eight years in prison.

    Find out more From Wikipedia

    Sydney Hilton Hotel bombing
    From Wikipedia

  32. Farmer Gez

    So you’re telling us climate change will be detrimental to your industry. Thanks for the tip.

    Ha!
    Joining sheep over summer months for autumn lambing and sticking to set joining dates without preg testing is the problem.
    The spring lambing percentages were unaffected.
    Nice cul de sac Hark.

  33. John Constantine

    Hot knackers aren’t fertile knackers.

    Modern tight joining timescales for tight lambing timescales are convenient, but hot weather at joining means going back to old style Australian extended joining for extended lambing.

    Autumn joining for spring lambing isn’t the heat challenge as summer joining for autumn lambing.

  34. Leigh Lowe

    We have a new King of Rakes.

  35. stackja

    NBN is just another government failure
    MARGARET WENHAM
    Margaret Wenham
    February 13, 2019 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    I got a letter the other day from my home internet provider’s “NBN migration team” that was prefaced with a highlighted, dire warning that I must immediately change my connection to the National Broadband Network.

    “Your service is due for disconnection on 08/02/2019,” the letter from my ISP, iPrimus, shouted, providing a list of equipment that could be affected by the imminent disconnection.

    On the list was my landline home phone, my current ADSL2 broadband connection, plus other devices which I don’t have, but others might depend on, including medical alarms and emergency call systems and monitored home security and fire alarm systems.

    Well, today’s the 12th and I haven’t been disconnected. Not surprisingly I knew the claim was a barefaced lie because the constant stream of mail arriving from the NBN for the past six months has been telling me I have until September to changeover.

    But the lie letter at least prompted me to contact iPrimus, with whom I’ve been for years and long without any “lock-in contract” to find out what’s involved in changing over to the Coalition Government’s dog’s breakfast hybrid version of the NBN (costing, so far, somewhere in the vicinity of $60 billion, though who really knows), the rates, and whether I might actually get a faster service than my current top speed of about 6.3 mbps.

    My call was taken by a heavily accented, difficult to understand bloke (in the Philippines it turned out) who was dead keen and able to “transition” me, but not so keen and able to answer some of my pesky questions.

    These included, most saliently, why would I want to pay the same or, most likely, more for a lesser service?

    A few comments:

    Allan
    1 hour ago
    Let’s not forget the “genius” behind nbn who was Stephen Conroy, senator for labor.

    My “ordinary IT guru” opined, when nbn was first announced, that it will be a waste of
    tax payers money and that the proposed solution (nbn) will be overtaken by technology
    advances in no time.

    Let’s remember who is NOT careful with our money, when elections come.

    Greg
    1 hour ago
    The NBN is the perfect example of how our political system is failing. The Labor federal government were warned by most experts internationally that it would be overly expensive, inefficient and redundant by the time it was completed, but ideology won the day rather than good policy. Then the LNP won and were advise to scrap any further roll out, but Turnbull as Comms Minister refused to listen and instead downgraded to copper. Why because he was scared of the political fall out of effectively writing off circa $1billion even though he knew it was going to be overly expensive, inefficient and redundant by the time it was completed.
    Federal governments have failed and are failing on both sides of the political fence as they care more about politics and ideology than good policy. And our country is suffering as a result.

    Glen
    1 hour ago
    Labor and Rudd devised this crazy insane NBN idea when technology like 5G was always going to happen. The cost was astronomical and using cable to home lowered this cost and is not the fault of the coalition. The HFC is not the cause of slow speed but rather the main system. How quickly voters forget. Really sad.

  36. stackja

    Margaret Wenham is a columnist for The Courier-Mail.

  37. Mark A

    Farmer Gez
    #2932464, posted on February 13, 2019 at 8:10 am

    Eight degrees here this morning.
    The Warmening is a tad nippy.

    Yes, we were hoping for a bit of nice weather coming home from NH winter and lo and behold we had to turn on the heater this morning. Incredible.

  38. mh

    Chicago Police: Jussie Smollett’s ‘Redacted’ Phone Records Not Enough for Criminal Investigation

    The Chicago Police Department said Monday that it does not have enough evidence to launch a criminal investigation into the alleged assault of Empire actor Jussie Smollett after he turned over “limited and redacted phone records” to detectives.

    “We are very appreciative of the victim’s cooperation however the records provided do not meet the burden for a criminal investigation as they were limited and heavily redacted,” Chicago Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said in a statement. “Detectives may be following up with him to request additional data to corroborate the investigative timeline.”…

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/02/12/chicago-police-jussie-smolletts-redacted-phone-records-not-enough-for-criminal-investigation/

  39. stackja

    Fans cannot get enough of reality TV, recording their favourites to watch later in the night
    Colin Vickery, Herald Sun
    February 13, 2019 7:00am
    Subscriber only

    Married At First Sight fans have a guilty secret – a lot of them are also trying to keep up with rival My Kitchen Rules.

    And the opposite is true too – plenty of My Kitchen Rules fans can’t wait to get their nightly Married At First Sight fix.

    Ten’s I’m a Celebrity … Get Me Out of Here! also screens at 7.30pm, and is another part of the split mix.

    The competing early evening reality shows are so popular that viewers are torn in their allegiance and resort to recording one to watch later the same night.

    The trend means that 9pm shows have a hard time gaining traction because people are too busy watching 7pm/7.30pm reality shows back-to-back.

  40. stackja

    Ross River Dam operators ‘inadequately’ trained, engineer says
    DOMANII CAMERON, The Courier-Mail
    February 13, 2019 6:04am
    Subscriber only

    A DAM engineering expert has claimed the Ross River Dam would have prevented Townsville from flooding if its spillway gates had been operated professionally.

    Townsville City Council owns the dam, however SunWater — a State Government-owned corporation — is contracted to operate it.

    In sensational claims late yesterday, a SunWater spokeswoman told The Courier-Mail the dam was not declared as flood mitigation infrastructure and the organisation was “not required to provide flood-mitigation advice”.

    This is despite numerous government departments claiming the dam was built in 1971 specifically for flood mitigation.

  41. Geriatric Mayfly

    Yesterday’s lamentable Sick Reffo amendments in the HoR have now moved back to the Senate. Anyone wanting to watch a reprise of the bar room scene from Star Wars can do so on the Parliamentary website. The inmates are already getting a tad over excited.

  42. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘Several hundred’ refugees could come from Nauru: Greens

    Greens leader Richard Di Natale says “several hundred” refugees could come to Australia from Nauru if the medivac bill passes the Senate today.

    “I would say the number, there would be several hundred,” he told ABC radio this morning.

    “I can’t give you an exact number. That would be an assessment on the island by the doctors on a case by case basis.

    “The medical community is speaking with one voice and one thing we do is we put the needs of people above everything else.

    Breaking, from the Oz. There you are, Australia, that’s what the Greens think of you.

  43. stackja

    Snow falls at Mt Mawson near firefighters battling Tasmanian bushfires
    JACK PAYNTER, Mercury
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    SNOW has fallen at Mt Mawson overnight as firefighters battle a large bushfire just a few kilometres away.

    Enough snow fell to cover the ground at the summit at the top of the Mawson run and the public shelter at the Mt Mawson base camp. The mountain sits within the Mt Field National Park in southern Tasmania.

  44. stackja

    Interconnector between SA and NSW expected to cost $1.5 billion but save power bills by $66 a year
    Daniel Wills, State political editor, The Advertiser
    February 13, 2019 12:30am
    Subscriber only

    Household power bills are expected to be slashed by $66 per year under final plans for a new $1.5 billion extension cord that would link SA to NSW.

    It would be more than double the $30 saving predicted in energy infrastructure company ElectraNet’s draft proposal released last year. ElectraNet will today release its long-awaited final proposal for the “Project EnergyConnect” link.

    It is seeking a development green light from regulators by mid-year.

    The State Government is spruiking the project as a super-highway for green power that would allow South Australia’s new solar and wind developments to easily plug into the system.

    If approved, the 900km interconnector would snake from Robertstown in SA’s Mid North to Wagga Wagga in NSW, via Buronga.

    Completion, and savings, are expected in 2022.

    A spur line from Buronga to Red Cliffs in Victoria would also be added. SA’s only interconnector is with Victoria – and the failure of that line was a major factor in the statewide blackout of 2016.

  45. Old School Conservative

    calli
    #2932461, posted on February 13, 2019 at 8:06 am
    Albanese assuring us that there are “no pull factors” relating to the odious Phelps bill.

    Yes, I can just see all those potential boat people pouring over the nuances of every sentence in the Phelps Bill. Analysing the “protections” put in place by Shorten and comparing the current Acts of Parliament. Asking detailed questions about interpretations of various sections of the new bill.
    Ha! All they see is a greater opportunity to get here without waiting in a refugee camp.
    A bit like the returned soccer player who travelled through 4 countries to get here as a refugee.

  46. Geriatric Mayfly

    “Innocent people in offshore prisons,” Di Natale is off and running.

  47. Black Ball

    Good morning.
    To all Sydneysiders, how was the heatwave yesterday? 37 forecast I believe, apparently the hottest February day for 2 whole years we were breathlessly told in the morning. Did it reach 37?

  48. Mother Lode

    Perhaps Margaret Wenham is of the opinion that the original Rudd/Conroy version was good and the inadequacies of the NBN are all due to the changes the Coalition made – since she only levels blame at the Coalition.

  49. Old School Conservative

    Household power bills are expected to be slashed by $66 per year

    More hyper-bowl from z grade journos.
    Since when is $1 a week “slashing”?
    Slashing comes from removing all subsidies for renewables.

  50. stackja

    Black Ball
    #2932497, posted on February 13, 2019 at 9:49 am

    SYDNEY (OBSERVATORY HILL)
    12/03:30pm 36.0

    [heat island?]

    PENRITH LAKES AWS
    12/03:02pm 37.6

    [20 years?]

    RICHMOND RAAF
    12/03:00pm 35.9

    [75 years?]

  51. Mother Lode

    I am sure the BOM will tell us it is a heatwave still in Sydney because their (adjusted) records indicate the average temperature for 13 Feb is 15C.

  52. Old School Conservative

    Do they really understand the meaning of words that they utter?
    Fifi Box fought back tears as she discussed the “very private” and lengthy process to get pregnant via IVF on The Project.

  53. stackja

    National Apology | National Museum of Australia
    https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/national-apology
    2008: National Apology to the Stolen Generations. … On 13 February 2008, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd made a formal apology to Australia’s Indigenous peoples, .

    And meanwhile in remote communities?

  54. Dr Faustus

    Shorten’s bum is twitching like a rabbits’ nose:

    “I just say to people trying to put out the welcome mat for people smugglers, the medivac legislation applies for people who are already there, it does not apply to anyone new,” he told reporters at Parliament House.

    “So if you think that by buying a ticket on an unsafe boat, paying a people smuggler, a criminal syndicate, you’ll get a better deal to come to Australia, you’re wrong.”

    He knows exactly that he has willingly exchanged the the risk of drowning a few boatloads of refugees for the love of the Strong Women of the Left.

    Nice and transactional. This is how government will be for the foreseeable future.

  55. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Foremost in their selling points was their Climate Change Mitigation committee/program, ‘Social Justice’ Program (yes, those were the exact words used) and, for the pièce de résistance, a compulsory program for Year 7 boys designed to ‘deconstruct the tradition view of masculinity’.
    Don’t worry about the gay lobby coming for the religious schools, they are committing harakiri.

    I hope you had a word with them later about how disappointed you were with their programs.

    Time for the parents to speak up. Muslim parents have had no problem doing this re gaydom.

  56. Geriatric Mayfly

    “I just say to people trying to put out the welcome mat for people smugglers, the medivac legislation applies for people who are already there, it does not apply to anyone new,” he told reporters at Parliament House.

    Which with the assistance of a few shonky doctors should clear the islands of all country shoppers in double quick time.

  57. stackja

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2932512, posted on February 13, 2019 at 10:11 am

    Muslim parents don’t face the discriminating problems other parents face.

  58. Old School Conservative

    deconstruct the tradition view of masculinity’.

    Once upon a time, deconstruct meant to examine in detail.
    Now it only means destroy
    .

  59. Geriatric Mayfly

    Wong just pulled a swifty. That the motion be put. Which if passed means no debate on the Sick Reffo Bill.

  60. stackja

    Old School Conservative
    #2932517, posted on February 13, 2019 at 10:15 am

    Once gay meant happy now means miserable.

  61. Mother Lode

    California will not complete $77 billion high-speed rail project – governor

    He should spin it as a good thing – it will slow down the spread of typhus which would otherwise have traveled about the state at breakneck speeds while incubating in unwitting human hosts.

    This is a great step forward in the fight against disease!

    In other news, the chocolate ration will be increased from 5 grams to 3 grams.

    And we have always been at war with America.

  62. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My “ordinary IT guru” opined, when nbn was first announced, that it will be a waste of
    tax payers money and that the proposed solution (nbn) will be overtaken by technology
    advances in no time.

    Yep. So did my Hairy and slightly more than ordinary IT guru. He said exactly the same thing.

    A lot of simple techos and start-up guys though were very gung-ho.

  63. Geriatric Mayfly

    Wong wins. The motion to endorse yesterday’s HoR travesty is now up.

  64. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Muslim parents don’t face the discriminating problems other parents face.

    Good point, Stacja. Perhaps it is time now though for Christians to gather together in protest groups and bring back some of St. Michael’s original smiting religious power. Ferocity has its place.

  65. RIP Lyndon LaRouche, the patron saint of Catallaxy Files commenters. I presume the blog will pay its respects, seeing as half the people here owe a debt of intellectual gratitude to the man.

  66. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    In other news, the chocolate ration will be increased from 5 grams to 3 grams.

    Love it. That has the authentic ring of Pravda about it.

  67. Geriatric Mayfly

    “All Aboard, All Aboard,” now echoes across Indonesia.

  68. Snoopy

    No journalist seems interested in exploring the likelihood of the Medivac legislation being amended in future to include illegal immigrants asylum seekers ‘tricked’ by people smugglers ‘misrepresenting’ the Medivac legislation into buying a passage to Australia and ending up in an offshore detention centre.

    Bill says the legislation doesn’t include future asylum seekers so that’s that.

  69. Here’s a term the MSM is getting ready to roll out:
    technical recession.
    This is a recession when Bill Shorten is PM during the 2019/2020 financial year, that the MSM & ALP boosters try to explain as:
    * it’s not really a recession;
    * it only impacts the rich;
    * (last resort) this really is Abbott/ScoMo’s fault (definitely don’t mention Turdbull).

    Don’t forget the argument that “It would be a recession if it weren’t for the fabulous Gubbermint and all it’s recession-saving stimulus spending and da investment and da creating jerbs so all bow down and hail the Gubbermint and pay your respects to Mr. Keynes on the way out.”

  70. Bruce of Newcastle

    Do you celebrate Pol Pot’s birthday M0nty?
    He’s a socialist too.

  71. Snoopy

    Okay, who stepped in dogshit?

  72. mh

    If you want heat, Brisbane is the city today.

    31.5C at 9.20 am and sweatier than Michelle Obama’s jockstrap.

  73. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Household power bills are expected to be slashed by $66 per year

    A dollar a week for the bus fare rise and a bit left over for a complete blast over Christmas?
    Well now, isn’t that great news?

  74. Interconnector between SA and NSW expected to cost $1.5 billion but save power bills by $66 a year

    Household power bills are expected to be slashed by $66 per year under final plans for a new $1.5 billion extension cord that would link SA to NSW.

    We really are living in 1984.
    Your bills will go down by$66 (they won’t) but we have to pay for a new Interconnecter so cough up $1000 each please (1.5b / 1.5m population = 1000).

    The choco ration is going down but you’ll have more chocolate which will cost more but you’ll save money.

    WTF are they building an IC to NSW for anyway?
    We haven’t got any spare juice.
    Fuck off SA, you voted for windmills and batteries so sweat in your jocks and do your serial killing in the dark.

  75. dover_beach

    Foremost in their selling points was their Climate Change Mitigation committee/program, ‘Social Justice’ Program (yes, those were the exact words used) and, for the pièce de résistance, a compulsory program for Year 7 boys designed to ‘deconstruct the tradition view of masculinity’.

    Of course. Every one of these ‘selling points’ is part of the contemporary ideology of liberalism, and so, the educational bureaucracies and the universities promote it ceaselessly and train teachers to inculcate it to students.

    They understood that politics is down the road from culture, so they took over our cultural institutions in order to take over our politics. They have very nearly succeeded.

  76. mh

    Should happen, but unlikely:

    After El Chapo conviction, use seized $14 BILLION to build border wall?

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/after-el-chapo-conviction-use-seized-14-billion-to-build-border-wall/

  77. Nick

    The Greens gloat about hundreds of refugees being admitted, then complain when flats and roads need to be built

  78. thefrollickingmole

    Oh noes.
    Poor Soros is distraught at seeing the EU go down like the Hindenburg over a naplam factory.

    Rather telling the “problems” he sees are nation states and that pesky democracy thing not delivering the right results.
    That and the lack of suitable ways to punish populations into compliance.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/12/eu-soviet-union-european-elections-george-soros

    The next inflection point will be the elections for the European parliament, in May 2019. Unfortunately, anti-EU forces will enjoy a competitive advantage. There are several reasons for this, including the outdated party system in most European countries, the practical impossibility of treaty change and the lack of legal tools for disciplining member states that violate the principles on which the EU was founded. The EU can impose its laws on applicant countries but it lacks sufficient capacity to enforce member states’ compliance.


    It is difficult to see how the pro-EU parties can emerge victorious from the May elections unless they put Europe’s interests ahead of their own. One can still make a case for preserving the EU in order radically to reinvent it. But that would require a change of heart within the EU. The current leadership is reminiscent of the politburo when the Soviet Union collapsed – continuing to issue edicts as if they were still relevant.

    The first step to defending Europe from its enemies, both internal and external, is to recognise the magnitude of the threat they present. The second is to awaken the sleeping pro-European majority and mobilise it to defend the values on which the EU was founded. Otherwise, the dream of a united Europe could become a 21st-century nightmare.

    Sad he is.
    Happy I am.

  79. Harken Now

    Hark! – Once again, I return to my original reason for descending from afar to this blog of unhappiness:

    Climate change is real
    Social justice as a concept is real and been used within the Catholic Church for a very long time:

    Perhaps the earliest appearance of “social justice” in a curial document was in 1894, when the Sacred Congregation of the Council, ruling on a canonical question, stated that “a new practice of social justice was born from that principle ‘the despoiled before all things ought to be restored’” (Acta Sanctae Sedis, 1894-95, p. 131). The term appeared again in the 1904 encyclical Iucunda Sane, when Pope Pius X wrote that Pope St. Gregory the Great acted as a “public defender of social justice” [publicus iustitiae socialis adsertor] during his years as a legate in Byzantium.

    Toxic masculinity is real – with many men who comment here routinely displaying it.

    Accept all of these things are real, and your burden will be lifted.

  80. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Dust in the air at Dover Heights park? That just up on the cliff edge from us and along a bit. But it’s a mild summer hazy day by now, that’s all, with a gentle nor-easter blowing in over the Gap from the sea. Nothing unusual. Sometimes Sydney gets a bit of blown dust in from far off Broken Hill, or some bushfire smoke. Hope no climate-change nonsense was being implied by that photograph.

  81. RobK

    Household power bills are expected to be slashed by $66 per year**

    **compared to what we think they might have been, if only we knew what they were in the first place. In any case, it means we can harvest more RE subsidies from NSW coal before they do it themselves, if we are quick, you save, they pay….before we’re in so deep, we all pay.

  82. JC

    I’m still waiting for responses to the gerbil warming marketing you posted, Harkels.

    The count is now 15,678,978 cat&dog.

  83. dover_beach

    RIP Lyndon LaRouche, the patron saint of Catallaxy Files commenters.

    You were the first to mention it, monty. It would have passed unnoticed otherwise. Your first comment today and you trod on a rake.

  84. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    PM orders Christmas Island to reopen

    Scott Morrison says he expects the medivac bill will pass the Senate and he has approved the reopening of the Christmas Island detention centre.

    “Not surprisingly, I understand the Senate will be passing the bill that went through the house yesterday,” he said in Canberra today.

    “Earlier today, I convened a meeting of the National Security Committee to take the decisions that were necessary following on from the contingency planning that had been put in place over the last couple of weeks.

    “We have approved putting in place the reopening of the Christmas Island detention facilities, both to deal with the prospect of arrivals as well as dealing with the prospect of transfers.”

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  85. I’m thinking that 2 x 4G modems is a fine alternative to the NBN.

  86. C.L.

    Fifi Box fought back tears as she discussed the “very private” and lengthy process to get pregnant via IVF on The Project.

    She had the love child of Grant Kenny five years ago. Childishly, she named the girl Beatrix ‘Trixie’ Belle Box. Now at 41, she is having the baby of “a donor” via IVF. I saw some of the segment on The Project. She arranged for a Ten camera crew to film the moment she told her daughter about her soon-to-be-half-sister-to-a-stranger. Then she shopped the whole package to The Project whose panelists reacted with You Go Girl boilerplate.

  87. Geriatric Mayfly

    Can’t follow what’s going on in the Senate. I thought it was all over. But they’re back at the Sick Reffo amendments again. Hinch just caved in, so it IS all over.

  88. Infidel Tiger

    AP Business News
    AP Business News
    @APBusiness
    Job openings surge to 7.3 million in December, that’s the most in the nearly two decades that records have been kept.
    @ChrisRugaber
    reports

    Ok. I was led to believe by much smarter people than me that tariffs would crater the US economy.

    What is happening and how do we get an economy to crater like Trump’s?

    Is it possible that tariffs combined with low taxes work?

  89. RobK

    Harksie, you are projecting again….still.

  90. Boambee John

    My call was taken by a heavily accented, difficult to understand bloke (in the Philippines it turned out) who was dead keen and able to “transition” me, but not so keen and able to answer some of my pesky questions.

    Remember when Joan Sutherland was excoriated as a racist by their left fascists for complaining that she found the Indian in the Post Office difficult to understand?

    I wonder will Margaret Wenham get the same treatment? Nah, thought not.

  91. Peter

    Ben Cubby stood out as one of the main media boosters of the NBN.

    Went on to a senior role at Fairfax

  92. Roger

    Can’t follow what’s going on in the Senate. I thought it was all over. But they’re back at the Sick Reffo amendments again.

    If only they could get as exercised about the sick Australians waiting days in emergency departments for ward beds to become available or languishing on surgery waiting lists.

    The Left is the enemy of ordinary Australians.

  93. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Medivac bill: Derryn Hinch to vote with Labor

    Greens Leader Senator Richard Di Natale and Nick McKim talk to Senator Derryn Hinch in the Senate Chamber this morning. Picture: Kym Smith

    Richard Ferguson
    Reporter
    @RichAFerguson
    1 minute ago February 13, 2019
    No Comments

    Justice Party senator Derryn Hinch has confirmed he will support the medivac bill in the senate, all but guaranteeing it will pass in 15 minutes.

    “I think it’s the right decision. It’s a humanitarian position,” he said.

    “The Justice Party is about protecting young people, old people, and sick people.”

    The key crossbench senator had earlier demanded a security briefing before deciding if he will back faster medical transfers for asylum seekers in offshore detention.

    Old pi$$pot caves in, croaking a few platitudes…

  94. Mother Lode

    Europe could become a 21st-century nightmare.

    Amateurs.

    Everything we do at odds with the great progressive projects makes us an ‘international pariah’ – much more prestigious than namby-pamby ‘nightmare’.

    Ask the Greens. They will back me up!

  95. EvilElvis

    I attempted to transition to another name, but bastards saw through it.

    So are you post transition now, Arky? Is the metamorphosis complete? And how are we to refer to you after transition or during transition? These are confusing gender times, I’m sure no one would want to offend…

  96. Tel

    This is despite numerous government departments claiming the dam was built in 1971 specifically for flood mitigation.

    And the existence of the flood mitigation infrastructure is the reason they approved houses built at ground level, because the claim at the time was that flooding would no longer be a problem.

    Lesson from this: never trust government!

  97. Old School Conservative

    Hinch just caved in

    Got his headline and then did what he was always going to do.

  98. Tel

    Is it possible that tariffs combined with low taxes work?

    Tariffs are taxes, the tax has simply been shifted from one place to another.

    It has become slightly easier for Americans to trade with Americans, and slightly more difficult for Americans to trade with Chinese.

  99. Boambee John

    Bad enough we have to put up with Farten Now, but both Numbers Bob and m0nty are back.

    Hey m0nty, do you celebrate Adolph’s birthday and mourn on the anniversary of his death, being as you are a firm fascist lefty?

  100. Arky

    And how are we to refer to you after transition

    ..
    My preferred pronoun is “you there, bloke”.

  101. Bruce of Newcastle

    Climate change is real

    Hark – No one disputes this here. What is disputed is whether AGW is dangerous. The real world climate data says it isn’t. Socialism, on the other hand, is extremely dangerous.

    Social justice as a concept is real

    I don’t think you use either “social” or “justice” in a manner consistent with the English language. Your meaning seems to be what would in a dictionary be rendered as “asocial injustice”.

    Toxic masculinity is real

    Given how many leftwing male politicians and leftwing elite men have been sprung recently I have to agree. Maybe society should return to the tenets of the Bible…you know, the bit about husbands loving their wives, and etc.

  102. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’d never ask for anyone to be banned. That’s up to Sinc. Meanwhile, fake angels such as the one currently fluttering and fagging around on our blog should be ignored until they disappear in a fluff of wind up their own fundaments. If he doesn’t have one, then please someone here tear him a new one; I can’t be bothered. He represents that malign left whose actions suck meaning from valuable and time-honoured concepts such as ‘justice’ and ‘masculinity’; a Year Zero remake that always ends badly.

  103. mh

    Infidel Tiger
    #2932549, posted on February 13, 2019 at 10:48 am
    AP Business News
    AP Business News
    @APBusiness
    Job openings surge to 7.3 million in December, that’s the most in the nearly two decades that records have been kept.
    @ChrisRugaber
    reports

    Ok. I was led to believe by much smarter people than me that tariffs would crater the US economy.

    What is happening and how do we get an economy to crater like Trump’s?

    Is it possible that tariffs combined with low taxes work?

    Economic libertarian theory vs the real world.

    Or egg meets face.

  104. RIP Lyndon LaRouche, the patron saint of Catallaxy Files commenters.

    Never heard of him so Googled it and find that he;
    -Ran as a Democrat 7 times
    -Made his own party called the U.S LABOR Party
    -Promoted Marxism in NY as a teacher in the 60’s and 70’s
    -Had contacts with the KKK, a Democrat founded and run organisation
    -Was anti-Semitic, an absolute indispensable staple of being a leftard

    So Fatfuck, before you shove your 57th donut of the day in your fat empty head get here and explain what this LaDouche douche has anything in common with a libertarian blog of people who fucking love Trump, freedom, free markets, Western culture and society and despise Marxism, the Dems, the KKK and anti-semites you stupid, fat, gormless, gobshiting, brainless, piss-soaked, scat-loving, pus-filled, bag of camel vomit and rhino shite.

    Damn, Socialist Scum dies and here I am without champagne.

  105. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hey m0nty, do you celebrate Adolph’s birthday and mourn on the anniversary of his death, being as you are a firm fascist lefty?

    Monty’s a champagne lefty, he wouldn’t recognise a real lefty if one bit him on the arse.

  106. bespoke

    Mater
    #2932443, posted on February 13, 2019 at 7:34 am

    Tell don’t want your kid studying those topics on religious grounds and see what they say.

  107. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bruce of Newcastle. xxx from me. I trust that isn’t toxic femininity. 😀
    You are always a sweetie, very clever and far too kind.

  108. struth

    Toxic masculinity is real – with many men who comment here routinely displaying it.

    Toxic masculinity is what the enemies of the freedom you have, to enjoy being a Fharkwit, lost to.
    Get down on your knees (sorry, you already are) and thank the lord for it, bitch.

    It’s only seems toxic in the west, if you are a piece of shit.
    Toxic masculinity keeps you safe.
    There’s nothing toxic about it, to the sane.
    It’s just masculinity, and it keeps you safe and free.

  109. Anthony

    Let’s face, from the time Turnbull stabbed Abbott in the back Australia has been doomed to a period of Labor government. But it won’t be all bad, nor all too long. Regardless of whether or not this Medevac nonsense works, the Indonesian people smugglers will start sending boats, the Greens, Labor and the independents(?) will be exposed for what they are, and, most importantly, the conservative side of politics will have time to sort themselves out. And, in the meantime, Hinch should have the liver he was given under false pretences, taken back from him and that a—hole Turnbull kicked out of any or all conservative parties.

  110. mh

    Blair Cottrell 🇦🇺
    Blair Cottrell 🇦🇺
    @blaircottrell89
    ·
    18m
    The guy who drove into Christmas shoppers in Melbourne in 2017 and wasn’t charged with a terror related offence has just said in court that he did it in the name of Allah.
    The media at the time also insisted that it wasn’t terrorism, just mental illness.

  111. C.L.

    Strange how after two years of Trump’s Racist America coverage by Australian media, the spectacular re-commitment of the Democrat Party to the Ku Klux Klan and the extermination of Jéws is not being reported at all.

  112. Gilas

    Mr Rusty
    #2932570, posted on February 13, 2019 at 11:04 am
    ..
    ..
    ..Damn, Socialist Scum dies and here I am without champagne.

    Seriously Mr Rusty, please tell us what you really think about Fatfuck, don’t hold back.

  113. Tom

    So Fatfuck, before you shove your 57th donut of the day in your fat empty head get here and explain what this LaDouche douche has anything in common with a libertarian blog of people who fucking love Trump, freedom, free markets, Western culture and society and despise Marxism, the Dems, the KKK and anti-semites you stupid, fat, gormless, gobshiting, brainless, piss-soaked, scat-loving, pus-filled, bag of camel vomit and rhino shite.

    Word-perfect.

  114. JC

    Ok. I was led to believe by much smarter people than me that tariffs would crater the US economy.

    Trump’s tariffs haven’t been that material. What “craters” an economy is inappropriate monetary policy… ie when the Federal Reserve tightens and send the economy into a tailspin.

    What is happening and how do we get an economy to crater like Trump’s?

    See above.

    Is it possible that tariffs combined with low taxes work?

    Depends.

    Look, if you’re looking for evidence of the impact of tariffs on the American economy look no further than the steel tariffs, which had done nothing to raise employment in that sector, while production has increased and steel prices have risen about 30%, thereby causing the US consumer to pay more. Trump said, steel tariffs would increase employment in that sector. It’s done nothing of the sort. It’s raised prices for steel domestically.

    Tariffs are a great way to lower living standards. Imports were never the problem with steel. The “problem”, as I and a few others have explained consistently and boringly is automation and tariffs or no tariffs, those jobs were never coming back.

    The problem with raising tariffs is that they distort the production chain and the price signal with domestic producers experiencing less competition and thereby making them lazy fuckers. They also end up being abused by protection seekers.

  115. “The Justice Party is about protecting young people, old people, and sick people.”

    Excellent. So The Justice Party will be paying the bills to fly over constipated reffos then, house them, treat them and let them stay here in a hotel for four years. Great news.

  116. lotocoti

    Toxic masculinity is real

    I gather eschewing moisturisers or not ironing your jeans are indicators of Early Onset Toxic Masculinity.

  117. stackja

    Pauline Hanson uses parliamentary privilege to accuse male senator of sexual harassment
    Claire Bickers, National politics reporter, News Corp Australia Network
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    Pauline Hanson has used parliamentary privilege to accuse a married male senator of sexually harassing up to six of his staff, even claiming he used taxpayer funds to prevent the women speaking out.

    The One Nation leader made the extraordinary claims in the Senate last night, saying: “This gutless wonder we call senator should tonight hang his head in shame.”

    She did not name the Senator but claimed he was “currently under investigation”.

  118. EvilElvis

    My preferred pronoun is “you there, bloke”.

    Excellent! We welcome all ‘yt,b’ people’s to our burgeoning and active group of LGBTIQCatYT,Bs…

  119. Arky

    The “problem”, as I and a few others have explained consistently and boringly is automation and tariffs or no tariffs, those jobs were never coming back.

    ..
    Don’t care about jobs that much.
    I care about living in a nation that retains the technical ability to make steel.

  120. JC

    This is the rent seeking bullshit you end up with. Requests for exemptions causing even more cronyism and bigger government.

    When President Trump promised to make America great again, the employees at Mid Continent Nail in Missouri probably didn’t expect he would put them out of work. But the steel tariffs imposed in June have the company hanging by a thread.

    Mid Continent is the largest nail manufacturer in the U.S. and has been in Missouri for more than 25 years. It had 500 employees at its Popular Bluff plant and was the second largest employer in the small town before the Trump tariffs hit.

    The trouble for Mid Continent is that foreign producers making nails abroad use low-price steel and export their production to the U.S. They can offer better prices than their U.S. rival because, as Chris Pratt, operations general manager for the plant, explained in a Journal op-ed last month, the tariffs pushed costs up “overnight” and made the company uncompetitive. “Orders dropped 70% in two weeks, and our workforce shrank from 500 employees to 370,” he wrote.

    Mid Continent is seeking a tariff exemption from the Commerce Department on grounds that it can’t find enough of the steel wire it needs in the U.S. Nucor Corporation, a U.S. steelmaker that is reaping profits from the tariffs, objected to Mid Continent’s request and said it could supply the steel wire. Mid-South Wire Company said the same. But last week CNN Money reported that Mr. “Pratt said that neither company on its own could supply enough raw material.”

    Time is running out. “I can tell you that if we don’t get immediate relief, we could be shut down in the next 20 to 30 days,” Mr. Pratt told CNN. While a recent meeting with a “very sympathetic” Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross offers hope, some 20,000 companies have filed exemption requests. Which is another way of saying that for every steel job that Mr. Trump claims he has “saved” with his tariffs, many more are being eliminated.

    and there is this:-

    As American steelmakers announce huge yearly profits, President Trump has practically unfurled a “Mission Accomplished” banner. “Tariffs on the ‘dumping’ of Steel in the United States have totally revived our Steel Industry,” he tweeted last week. Yet investors don’t think so. From the time Mr. Trump announced his 25% tariffs through the middle of January, steel stocks lagged the S&P 500 by nearly 20 percentage points. What gives?

    One possible explanation is that steel companies have reaped a one-time windfall. Tariffs caused steel prices to spike last year, hence all the superlatives on the recent investor calls.

    • “The best way for me to sum up 2018 is this: It was a record year for Nucor , ” said CEO John Ferriola. Nucor’s profit was up $1 billion, or 79%, compared with the previous year.

    • “On many measures, 2018 was a record year—record operating metrics, record profitability and record cash generation, to name just a few,” said Mark Millett, CEO of Steel Dynamics. Profit increased $445 million, or 55%.

    • “Our best year in a decade,” said Roger Newport, CEO of AK Steel, where profit rose $83 million, or 80%.

    • “We delivered our best return on capital employed since 2008,” said David Burritt, CEO of U.S. Steel. His profit? Up $728 million, or 188%.

    The common theme: higher prices, strong sales, and a sharp drop in foreign competition. “Increased demand levels and lower imports generated approximately six million tons of added volume for the U.S. steel industry last year,” Mr. Ferriola said. Mr. Millett said imports of finished steel declined “on both an absolute basis and as a percentage of consumption.”

    So while prices surged, to the detriment of America’s consumers and steel-reliant industries, a handful of mills were minting money. Yet the fundamentals of the global steel market haven’t changed, and steel prices have dropped back toward the baseline. Estimates suggest 2019 will be nowhere near as good.

    And what happens if Mr. Trump strikes a bargain to lift the tariffs? As he pushes Canada and Mexico to pass his new Nafta deal, they may first insist, understandably, on relief for their steel producers. The U.S. still lacks enough domestic steelmaking capacity to meet demand and so imports are essential to American manufacturing.

    Yet Mr. Trump’s promise to bring back steel jobs for the workingman simply hasn’t happened. In November there were 83,400 people employed by American iron and steel mills, according to data from the Labor Department. That’s down 100 from last February, the month before Mr. Trump’s tariff announcement.

    In 2008, the last time steel companies were busting financial records, the employment figure was touching 100,000. It isn’t a failure that steelmakers have made productivity gains, even if Mr. Trump gives a campaign speech in Pittsburgh and tries to present it that way.

    Meanwhile, Mr. Trump’s protectionism has hammered businesses that depend on steel. Ford said last month that tariffs cost the car maker $750 million last year, along with $1.1 billion in higher spending on steel and aluminum. As a result, the profit-sharing checks going to Ford’s hourly workers were reduced by somewhere around $750 to $1,850 each, according to the Detroit Free Press.

    Caterpillar’s costs tied to tariffs were $100 million, and the company says they will double in 2019. Whirlpool, a supposed beneficiary of Mr. Trump’s protectionism, expects its bill next year for tariffs and pricier raw materials will hit $300 million.

    To calculate the total tariff damage, multiply this effect across every steel buyer nationwide, public and private: metal fabricators, nail manufacturers, pipeline builders, keg makers, and so forth. Then add in the harm that retaliatory tariffs from U.S. trading partners have done to America’s soybean farmers, cranberry growers, bourbon distillers, pork producers, lobster trappers, and so many more. Then add the harm to investment from political uncertainty.

    Tariffs offer the classic political problem of concentrated benefits and diffuse losses. Steel executives get to strut with their record profits, earned under Uncle Sam’s protection. Mr. Trump gets to proclaim himself a blue-collar savior, despite flat steel employment. Everyone else picks up the tab.

    Scargillian economics just doesn’t work.

  121. stackja

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2932544, posted on February 13, 2019 at 10:43 am

    Scott Morrison to re-open Christmas Island detention centre after historic bill defeat
    Claire Bickers, Anna Caldwell and Jade Gailberger, News Corp Australia Network
    4 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has taken the extraordinary step of reopening the Christmas Island detention centre as the government braces for a new wave of boat arrivals.

    It comes after he suffered a historic defeat on the refugee medical evacuation bill in the lower house yesterday and less than an hour before it passed the Senate, 36 votes to 34.

    The government will also beef up Operation Sovereign Borders with extra resources.

    Mr Morrison made the shock announcement after an urgent meeting of the National Security Committee this morning.

    He said government would adopt all of the committee’s recommendations.

    “My job now is to do everything within my power and in the power of the government to ensure that what the parliament has done to weaken our borders does not result in boats coming to Australia,” Mr Morrison told reporters in Canberra.

  122. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The Left is the enemy of ordinary Australians.

    Yes. And now we have three of the little leftist squarkers here in our midst.
    And me having just put down my smiting sword in order to fence elsewhere with the quill again.
    Elle, get in here and destroy Harken with your magic dildo.
    No-one will object to that.
    Arky, start forging a few Excaliburs for our best toxic warriors in that workshed of yours.

  123. teddy bear

    From the ABC breaking news headline
    “Breaking news: The bill giving doctors more power to decide whether asylum seekers should come to Australia has passed the Senate 36 votes to 34.”

    Don’t you just love the way they shamelessly report that doctors now have more power to decide who gets into our country.

  124. Cassie of Sydney

    “m0nty
    #2932524, posted on February 13, 2019 at 10:21 am
    RIP Lyndon LaRouche, the patron saint of Catallaxy Files commenters. I presume the blog will pay its respects, seeing as half the people here owe a debt of intellectual gratitude to the man.”

    You probably think you are being smart but all you are is a disgraceful and cretinous little weasel. Fuck off.

  125. JC

    Let’s be fair with this bullshit the Left has sprung on us. Doctors have always had the power to both allow or disallow entry into a country. This is nothing new.

  126. areff

    Yes, Gez, it’s winter down on the coast as well — a brisk 12C we normally don’t start getting until June or July. The normal summer where overnight temps are 18-22 degrees lasted less than a month.

    Don’t you worry, Tom. It will be the hottest, angriest, most ominously heat-seared February on record by the time the BoM has finished gingering up the the numbers.

    Nine’s Hannam already has the copy ready. Just waiting to fill in the numbers handed down from on high

  127. stackja

    Roger
    #2932554, posted on February 13, 2019 at 10:51 am

    We still don’t how much influence the KGB provided to the left in Australia.

  128. bespoke

    Arky
    #2932566, posted on February 13, 2019 at 11:00 am
    And how are we to refer to you after transition
    ..
    My preferred pronoun is “you old, fart”.

    err OK.

  129. dover_beach

    She had the love child of Grant Kenny five years ago. Childishly, she named the girl Beatrix ‘Trixie’ Belle Box. Now at 41, she is having the baby of “a donor” via IVF. I saw some of the segment on The Project. She arranged for a Ten camera crew to film the moment she told her daughter about her soon-to-be-half-sister-to-a-stranger. Then she shopped the whole package to The Project whose panelists reacted with You Go Girl boilerplate.

    Contemporary liberal culture is unspeakable trash. What a ghastly process.

  130. Arky

    The communist bloc crawled their peoples through starvation and thousands of prison camps in order to drag them to industrialisation. Years of shooting nuns, selling most of the populace’s foodstuffs overseas and throwing people down village wells.
    All in the name of getting the ability to make good steel.
    We just had that capability, and all that goes with it, but are as keen as fuck to walk away from it to satisfy the new Marxist loons among us.

  131. struth

    The importing of steel from a communist country that is not playing fair in the market place is taken into consideration by Trump.
    Where you get it from, and why it’s the cheapest available is, and should be of a concern.

    You don’t buy a watch you know is stolen just because it is cheaper.
    It will always be the cheapest.
    You make the thief uncompetitive, put him out of business entirely, and then you drop the measures you put in place to destroy him.
    As it is with Trump and China.
    A USA unshackled from the UN and the left’s environmental bullshit to destroy the west, and competing against the global corruption we have been dealing with for so long, needs a more in depth look at the situation than “cheaper is always best, no matter what”
    Because depending on why that is the case, will let you know just how expensive and poverty stricken you will be in the long term, by succumbing to short term unprincipled lowest price is always best, approach.

    In the long term, fighting China the way Trump is, will see thousands more steel jobs in the USA than the short term loss now.
    Trump knows this.
    He knows it because he believes in the strength of capitalism against the corruption of socialism.
    He actually really believes it.
    Many who say they do, don’t.

  132. Roger

    We still don’t how much influence the KGB provided to the left in Australia.

    They were very effective.

    They also effectively neutralised ASIO for much of the 1970s & ’80s.

    ASIO had at least four KGB moles who were never prosecuted.

    In fact, across the West, the KGB were more successful than their wildest imaginings, such that the subversion continued after the collapse of the Soviet Union with witting or unwitting agents of influence now ensconced in positions of power in Western institutions.

  133. DrBeauGan

    Harken suffers from toxic stupidity, also toxic poofianity.

    Harken, do everyone a favour, find a really tall building, go up to the roof and jump off. If you are the idiot we think you are, you’ll come down quite quickly and splat. If you really are an angel, you’ll go up into heaven.

    Think of it as a test of your faith.

  134. Geriatric Mayfly

    “My job now is to do everything within my power and in the power of the government to ensure that what the parliament has done to weaken our borders does not result in boats coming to Australia,” Mr Morrison told reporters in Canberra.

    ScoMo back onto his old stomping grounds. And no one with better experience than he as to how to deal with these buggers who have been kicking in our back door since whenever.

  135. JC

    You don’t buy a watch you know is stolen just because it is cheaper.
    It will always be the cheapest.

    That’s a very stupid analogy and I’m surprised you’d bring it up.

    Knowingly buying a stolen watch is theft pure and simple.

    Buying a tested grade of steel meeting specs and hunting around for the best price is the same as deciding on a watch type and brand then skulking around looking for the best price.

  136. Diogenes

    Justice Party senator Derryn Hinch has confirmed he will support the medivac bill in the senate, all but guaranteeing it will pass in 15 minutes.
    “I think it’s the right decision. It’s a humanitarian position,” he said.
    “The Justice Party is about protecting young people, old people, and sick people.”
    The key crossbench senator had earlier demanded a security briefing before deciding if he will back faster medical transfers for asylum seekers in offshore detention.

    Heard on the bus this morning …
    I wish these **expletives ** would show as much concern for us poor ***expletives*** who pay their wages as they do for criminal foreigners.

  137. dopey

    ABC says it’s a “refugee” bill. I thought it was an amendment to the Migration Act.

  138. Arky

    If you are the country with the ability to produce raw materials, but not the ability to transform them into goods: that for years was the definition of a third world country.
    We seem to have thought that it was our governance or culture that defined us and made us first world.
    I don’t think so.
    The countries that produce the goods that other’s need are the first world. Always have been, always will be.
    The other word for it was: industrialised.
    I can’t see how you can keep a technological edge without substantial industry.
    You don’t get the tip of the pyramid without the base to support it.
    It is wishful thinking.

  139. areff

    Don’t worry about the gay lobby coming for the religious schools, they are committing harakiri.

    A teacher of my acquaintance in the Catholic system does Year 10 English. So we’re having a feed one night and I asked what books the kids were reading. She listed two — only two!!!! — for the year, one about a kid born with a gross facial deformity and the other about a kid afflicted with autism. I’ve read neither and, thinking back on the life and interests of a 15-year-old, would be disinclined to immerse myself in either.

    I suggested she sling ’em copies of, say, White Fang, or any book with a bit of derring-do that hinges on killing Huns, blowing things up or shoostering nasty blokes. “Shane” came to mind because the dumb ones can also watch the movie and still get the general drift.

    No, she said, it would be more than her job is worth, as the interminable staff and lesson-planning sessions she must endure are devoted to this year’s theme: acceptance, otherness and tolerance.

    Shakespeare?

    Only one play: the Taming of the Shrew, which apparently serves to illustrate hegemonic masculinity.

    Being well into the second bottle, I was inspired to suggest Richard the Third and even did a little recitation of “I that am not shaped for sportive tricks, nor made top court an amorous looking glass”.

    She told me she knew that already and, anyway, Dick da Turd wouldn’t get a guernsey because it cast the disabled in a bad light.

    If, actuarially, you’re in life’s home stretch, rejoice! You won’t have to watch the final fulfillment of what is now three generations’ of deliberate miseducation orchestrated by people who take up teaching because they’re too stupid even for social work degrees.

  140. Roger

    “The Justice Party is about protecting young people, old people, and sick people.”

    And given that our public health system is rationed you’ve just ensured that sick Australians will be displaced in the queue by interloping country shoppers.

    What an insufferable prick Hinch is.

  141. Notafan

    I’d have thought Fifi Box was older than 41.

    Love her very private experience.

    I’m very sorry I missed seeing the story unfold.

    I never voluntarily watch Australian TV.

    The closest I came to doing so, was while travelling when I flicked to Fox Crime and found the dreadful Dr Blake on.

    Stunned to see someone had bothered to translate it.

  142. Tel

    Look, if you’re looking for evidence of the impact of tariffs on the American economy look no further than the steel tariffs, which had done nothing to raise employment in that sector, while production has increased and steel prices have risen about 30%, thereby causing the US consumer to pay more. Trump said, steel tariffs would increase employment in that sector. It’s done nothing of the sort. It’s raised prices for steel domestically.

    Bah! The iron and steel price index has not yet returned to where it peaked in 2011 and that’s not even inflation adjusted.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WPU101

    The price has been creeping up since 2016 but if you want to specifically blame the Trump Tariff, that was imposed March 2018 (index = 227.5) and most decent figures for December 2018 (index = 244.5) gives only a 7.5% increase, nothing remotely close to 30%. But anyway, the price was trending upwards at about the same rate BEFORE any tariffs were imposed.

  143. Boambee John

    Mr Rusty at 1104

    you stupid, fat, gormless, gobshiting, brainless, piss-soaked, scat-loving, pus-filled, bag of camel vomit and rhino shite.

    Good summary, but I think hyena shite might be more appropriate than rhino shite.

    The shite of carnivores usually sm e l ls worse than that of herbivores.

  144. C.L.

    Doctors have always had the power to both allow or disallow entry into a country.

    Que?

  145. Fisky

    Ok. I was led to believe by much smarter people than me that tariffs would crater the US economy.

    What is happening and how do we get an economy to crater like Trump’s?

    Is it possible that tariffs combined with low taxes work?

    It has worked beautifully and we can now definitively say that yet another pillar of libertarian economic theory has been refuted by experience!

  146. RobK

    Oh, a trotskyite democrat died of old age.
    Sad.

  147. Harken Now

    Hark beaugan: your quote

    But if she just wants to play teasing games, I’ll drop her instantly. And if she persists I might smack her one. There are men who put up with that sort of shit but I’m not one of them.

    is a ridiculously clear example of assumed male entitlement to exert physical aggression on a woman who’s annoying you. Hard to think of a clearer case of toxic masculinity, really.

    That people here would excuse you for it just shows what a dumpster fire “conservative values” is these days – support a President who boasts of his power to force himself physically on women; who was an adulterer arranging payments to keep it quiet; who refuses to release tax returns to expose what corruption he is open to; who just routinely lies and speaks bullshit.

  148. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ScoMo back onto his old stomping grounds. And no one with better experience than he as to how to deal with these buggers who have been kicking in our back door since whenever.

    James Molan is declaring that we secured Australia’s borders once, we can do it again – particularly now all the traitors have revealed their hands…

  149. thefrollickingmole

    Another example of how curiously incurious and outright deceptive their ABC can be.

    In all there reporting on the sick ‘fugees they have neglected to report that EVERY person brought to Australia for treatment will be quickly lawyered up and effectively become impossible to remove as appeal after appeal is lodged.

    Thats an easy to find fact which is somehow missed in the orgy of Pedophradsty and deceptive reporting.

    Lying liars who lie, even when they dont report on something.

  150. Geriatric Mayfly

    What an insufferable prick Hinch is.

    By way of mitigation he did say in his preamble this morning, ‘This has been the most difficult decision in my life.’ Getting off the piss, not so much.

  151. Arky

    Another symptom we are now clearly seeing is that as we deindustrialised, schools had the reason for existence ripped from them.
    Why worry about producing literate and numerate citizens suitable for the rigors of industry when industry is gone?
    This has been a pervasive force for years throughout our educational system.
    So instead of times tables and balancing chemical formulae and learning grammar, we have climate science, gender studies, sex ed, black armband history and all the rest of the wretched, depressing crap that most of you have little idea makes up most of your children’s school days.

  152. Pedro the Ignorant

    The unrepresentative swill have spoken.

    Get the cheque book out, hordes of reffos are about to descend on us for a lifetime of free stuff and welfare benefits, courtesy of a couple of activist medicos.

    My contempt level for our Lords and Masters has descended even further.

  153. Mater

    A teacher of my acquaintance in the Catholic system does Year 10 English. So we’re having a feed one night and I asked what books the kids were reading. She listed two — only two!!!! — for the year, one about a kid born with a gross facial deformity and the other about a kid afflicted with autism. I’ve read neither and, thinking back on the life and interests of a 15-year-old, would be disinclined to immerse myself in either.

    Whereas in Russia, it’s compulsory to teach the abridged version of ’The Gulag Archipelago’ to all 16 and 17 year olds!

  154. DrBeauGan

    You won’t have to watch the final fulfillment of what is now three generations’ of deliberate miseducation orchestrated by people who take up teaching because they’re too stupid even for social work degrees.

    Naughty areff. You are othering them. You are saying that they shouldn’t be encouraged to run large organisations simply because they are stupid. We need to be accepting of stupid people, and considerate of their feelings.

    Practise on Harken.

  155. Arky

    Read this from ninemsn keep in mind that the person who wrote it presumably had the best part of two decades in the Australian education system:

    Mr Maduro, who has blamed US sanctions for Venezuela’s economic troubles when in reality the falling price of oil and economic mismanagement have been more probably been more important factors, said the US intended to “create a humanitarian crisis in order to justify a military intervention”.

  156. Boambee John

    areff at 1148

    Only one play: the Taming of the Shrew, which apparently serves to illustrate hegemonic masculinity.

    Reminds of the joke about the titles of Shakespearean plays hidden in the measurements three inches, six inches, nine inches and twelve inches.

    Much Ado About Nothing, As You Like It, A Midsummer Night’s Dream and The Taming of the Shrew.

  157. Tel

    Time is running out. “I can tell you that if we don’t get immediate relief, we could be shut down in the next 20 to 30 days,” Mr. Pratt told CNN.

    Everyone tries it on … part of doing business. CNN laps it up because they hate Trump. I’ll bet that they went to no effort at all to find someone at the other side of the equation who now sells more.

  158. Seems the Socialist Scum are absolutely giddy with excitement at the thought of seizing power and turning us into the next Venezuela after the latest “smashing”, “humiliating”, “defeat” of the sitting Gubbermint.

    Currently at Parliament House Socialist Victim Group #32 Code Name WASP (White Aboriginal Socialist Parasites) are storming the barricades.

    Have patience looters and moochers. It will all be yours soon.

    I just can’t wait to see your faces when you realise there is nothing left to loot and far too many groups to pay off for their support. And that will just be the beginning of your troubles.

  159. C.L.

    Let’s face, from the time Turnbull stabbed Abbott in the back Australia has been doomed to a period of Labor government.

    Right, Anthony. I made this point last night. What the Morrison ‘government’ is experiencing now at the hands of Doctors Without Scruples traces back directly to Abbott’s removal. From that time onwards, the Liberals decided to play for media love over any and all principles. Sovereign borders lasted a bit longer because it was such a steel-solid policy for a vast majority of the electorate. The left outflanked the Liberals – already dickless and asleep at the wheel – with a reliable classic: Won’t Somebody Think of The Children? Plus, they knew from the abortion fix that if you can recruit doctors to ‘diagnose’ various ‘life-threatening’ conditions and ‘illnesses,’ you can – basically – do anything you want thereafter. The first order of business for these quacks is to ensure ‘psychological’ ‘illness’ is grounds for immediate evac and – eventually – citizenship. Voila: open borders.

  160. bespoke

    Tariffs have always been about picking winners and losers none of them will give up that power. Evan if the impossible happened and we got an optimal zero reciprocal tariffs some security concerns have to be considered. I would rather a tariff war then real one.

  161. Tel

    It has worked beautifully and we can now definitively say that yet another pillar of libertarian economic theory has been refuted by experience!

    Maybe you should learn the theory before you criticize?

    Libertarians have always said that tariffs are equivalent to a tax. Also, that government spending is the ultimate thing that determines how much tax people pay (in whatever format).

    Why is it so difficult to keep people paying attention? But WHY?!?!

  162. Bruce of Newcastle

    No one seems to have mentioned that there are no refugees on either Nauru or Manus Island.
    By now every illegal migrant, except the kids, has been found not to be a refugee.
    It would be illegal to relocate these people to Australia under a refugees medivac act.

  163. thefrollickingmole

    Heres a gruinaid example…

    This is nothing but propaganda, pure unalloyed shit.

    Hajar, a 33-year-old Iranian asylum seeker, is on Nauru with her ailing parents while her brother lives in Australia. Her mother, aged 56, attempted suicide in December; her father is confined to a sling because he requires elbow surgery.

    He rejected the Australian government’s offer to have the surgery performed in Taiwan, where he has no support network.

    Lawyer waiting to meet him as he gets off the plane to file for him….

    She has severe anxiety stemming from a dog attack and what she describes as persistent sexual harassment in Nauru
    (note there is no mention from locals or detainees, I wonder why?)
    , as well as painful degrading enamel on her teeth, a condition that earned her a medical referral to Australia from Nauru’s senior dental officer for enamel veneers, which are not available in the tiny Pacific nation.

    Also her condition would require a lawyer waiting as the plane touched down to coach her through the injunction he will file to prevent her return…


    Bita suffers from severe back pain and now uses a wheelchair. She has been waiting for a month to see an orthopaedic surgeon and also requires an MRI, which she has been told she cannot get in Nauru.

    The new Mediterranean back requires intensive waiting at the airport for the lawyer to apply a balm of OPM & injunctions to return to Manus.

    Just as amazingly all 3 people mentioned are females, almost like they are going for the soft focus/Vaseline lens approach to reporting…
    “We all came out here with good health and standing on our two feet however most of us now are on wheelchair,” she says.

  164. Roger

    By way of mitigation he did say in his preamble this morning, ‘This has been the most difficult decision in my life.’

    Just more grandstanding from the “human headline”.

  165. Tel

    Tariffs have always been about picking winners and losers none of them will give up that power.

    Same with every tax.

    Same with every government expenditure … every single one!

  166. C.L.

    This has been the most difficult decision in my life.

    More difficult than deciding to get back on the piss after a liver transplant?

  167. John Constantine

    Their ABC has a Chinese researcher describing the massive changes to his village in China in thirty years.

    Now reliable electricity, running water, so much food the people getting tubby.

    Chinese village with better services than Aussie villages.

  168. John Constantine

    Now ABC bully pulpit gets to the point that meat producers need a social licence to produce meat, which you get by being carbon neutral chop growers.

    The environment demands rationing and carbon neutral by 2030. Through State control.

    Tyranny is Opportunity.

    Comrades.

  169. Roger

    her father is confined to a sling because he requires elbow surgery.

    He rejected the Australian government’s offer to have the surgery performed in Taiwan,

    Bear in mind an Australian citizen on a state public hospital waiting list will presently wait, on average, almost a year for elective surgery (an elderly Queensland woman has reportedly waited three years for cataract surgery under Palaszczuk’s compassionate Labor regime).

    And they’ll not receive an offer of a tax payer funded trip to a competent overseas surgical facility in the meantime.

  170. Stimpson J. Cat

    US parents reveal Peppa Pig causes children to speak with BRITISH ACCENTS

    I was jumping in puddles long before that little fat pig.
    Bloody bandwagon jumpers.

  171. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ok. I was led to believe by much smarter people than me that tariffs would crater the US economy.

    Are Bankers, Traders, Globalists, and Corporates actually people?
    I thought they were mere economic units.

  172. bespoke

    President who boasts of his power to force himself physically on women

    You haven’t listened to the tape obviously. Its vey un progressive of you not to address DrBeauGan in the manner he chooses.

  173. Confused Old Misfit

    President who boasts of his power to force himself physically on women

    Is he talking about the Sainted J. F. K.?

  174. Shy Ted

    Did we just witness Shorten lose the unlosable election?

  175. Eyrie

    “The State Government is spruiking the project as a super-highway for green power that would allow South Australia’s new solar and wind developments to easily plug into the system.”
    What he really means is that SA wind and solar will be able to fuck up NSW and Qld reliable coal generation more easily.

  176. JC

    Really Tel?

    US steel prices haven’t gone up smartly with the Trump administration?

    The upward sloping chart must be upside down:-)

    https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/steel

  177. Pete of Perth

    Today is the anniversary of the apology to the stolen generation. Morning tea + two guest speakers to tell us what evil bastards our ancestors were. I’m staying in the lab.

  178. Ian

    Shorten should acquire a pet snake, it would give something to look up to.

  179. max

    Having a bet in 2019 outside the TAB ?

    Online bookmakers are bracing for the so-called “point-of-consumption” taxes beginning in NSW, Victoria, Western Australia and the Australian Capital Territory on January 1, which, for the first time, will tax digital gambling losses based on where a bet is placed rather than where the bookmaker holds its licence.

    The rate of the new taxes varies from state to state: South Australia, Western Australia, Queensland and ACT will collect 15 per cent of bookmaker revenue from bets placed in their jurisdictions, while NSW will take 10 per cent, and Victoria 8 per cent.

  180. Shy Ted

    Political lie, I mean line, of the week goes to ScoMo for his comment about C-grade soccer player and dubious refugee Hakeem Al Araibi – “he’s coming home”. SFLs would have got more votes with “he’s going home”.

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