Monday Forum: February 11, 2019

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  1. bespoke

    Oh come on

    I was sort of hoping she would boost the Walkaway movement rather then start her own.

  2. Makka

    This…. is a win!

    Gaining the Presidency is a win, by any measure. mh is right of course. You were quite negative on Trump during the election and went with the betting numbers. You got it completely wrong, so now it’s a fluke.

    Trump’s got nearly 2 more years before he faces his re-election so let’s see how he fairs. Early days yet. In any case, it’s silly to compare the US in ’84 with today. There were a lot more saner people back then, on both sides.

  3. Stimpson J. Cat

    They weren’t just negative, they were anti. Unforgettable and unforgivable.

    I’ll tell you all this,
    none of you have even seen Anti Trump yet.
    If he doesn’t build that f$cking Wall I will turn faster than Gunners head when a hot chick in activewear jogs bouncily by,
    mark my words.

  4. DrBeauGan

    It’s not the share market so how the f$ck would he know?
    My God JC and Artisan Tiger were so depressing during the campaign.
    Just the worst pair of Negative Nancies.

    True. I predicted here that Trump would win the primary and the presidency way back. He is just far smarter than any of his opponents. He’ll win his second term too.

  5. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    John, do you somehow expect that, sans Katter’s incoherent ramble, the HOR would miraculously put the time to better use?

    My former local member stated that, every time Bob Katter rose to speak in the House, he would walk out.

  6. DrBeauGan

    And he’s already building the wall.

  7. Memoryvault

    If he doesn’t build that f$cking Wall I will turn faster than Gunners head when a hot chick in activewear jogs bouncily by,

    The wall is already being built, Stimpy.
    All that’s being argued about is additional funding approval rather than using current budget money.

  8. stackja

    Softcore Stalinism & Kompromat

    By ROD DREHER • February 8, 2019, 3:06 PM


    Excerpt:

    Here’s a Yale Daily News column by Isis Davis-Marks, a black woman and, more importantly, a Yale undergraduate, which makes her one of the most privileged persons walking the planet. She is already part of the ruling class. In the piece, she talks about the necessity to be a spy and an informant for Wokeness.

    When I’m watching the white boy — who is now a white man by this point — on CNN, I’ll remember a racist remark that he said, an unintentional utterance that he made when he had one drink too many at a frat party during sophomore year. I’ll recall a message that he accidentally left open on a computer when he forgot to log out of iMessage, where he likened a woman’s body to a particularly large animal. I’ll kick myself for forgetting to screenshot the evidence.

    And, when I’m watching him smile that smile, I’ll think that I could have stopped it.

  9. John64

    do you somehow expect that, sans Katter’s incoherent ramble, the HOR would miraculously put the time to better use?

    A very fair point indeed.

    And no insult intended, IR. You make considerably more sense than Bob Katter.

  10. Stimpson J. Cat

    I was completely and utterly insane for most of it anyway.
    Good times.

  11. Tel

    I’m keeping the spare room available in case the Swedish Bikini Team seeks asylum.

    In a time of genuine need I’d offer them my room.

  12. DrBeauGan

    Tel
    #2931786, posted on February 12, 2019 at 3:32 pm
    I’m keeping the spare room available in case the Swedish Bikini Team seeks asylum.

    In a time of genuine need I’d offer them my room.

    You’d never get any sleep again. Still, what a way to go.

  13. mh

    The wall construction so far has been replacement of existing sections.

    Today they started building a new section at the Rio Grande Valley.

  14. Makka

    The UNiparty, in lock step for mass migration and Big’Straya;

    Mr Neumann (ALP) said that if Labor wins the next election, their government would take the “best advice” on setting the immigration intake level.

    I have said before 190,000 was about right previously. We will get the best advice and set the level accordingly,” the Shadow Immigration Minister said.

    “I haven’t seen any evidence that will justify [cutting down the immigration intake], and the Liberals have never provided us with any evidence with relation to that.“

    Only with Labor, the 190k will have to be card carrying unionists or welfare parasites. It’s the battle of the voteherds.

  15. Mark A

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2931539, posted on February 12, 2019 at 11:13 am

    Calli, I had shoes with studs on them just like that. And guess what? They were also stilettos.
    Extreme dual purpose.
    Hairy didn’t like them so in the end I tossed them to a charity bin.
    I often wonder where they ended up.

    Obviously a man of taste.
    (not saying you have a lack of taste I hasten to add, just that you may have been momentarily confused)

  16. the battle of the voteherds.

    I’ll see your 200,000 muselis and raise you …

  17. Lysander

    As the fruit of immigrant parents, I can hardly be anti-immigration…

    But… I can’t help but think it is one big ponzi scheme. Right?

  18. Myrddin Seren

    “I have said before 190,000 was about right previously.

    “I haven’t seen any evidence that will justify [cutting down the immigration intake], and the Liberals have never provided us with any evidence with relation to that.“

    Key phrase follows:

    We will get the best advice and set the level accordingly,” the Shadow Immigration Minister said.

    And if the best advice says ‘double it’ ? Brace for it – mass importation ++ to follow straight after the election and ‘best advice’ is received.

  19. Stimpson J. Cat

    As the fruit of immigrant parents, I can hardly be anti-immigration…

    Of course you can.
    Have you actually heard Kiwis speak?
    My God man.

  20. Zatara

    We will get the best advice and set the level accordingly

    “Best advice” from whom exactly?

  21. Geriatric Mayfly

    Bob Katter a license to ramble incoherently in the House for around 15 minutes and counting under the guise of a “statement by indulgence”.

    Flicked over to HoR, Katter on his hind trotters. Lasted a micro second. Indulgence indeed, some lofty rhetoric about sheep entrails hanging out.

  22. Memoryvault

    just that you may have been momentarily confused)

    There’s nothing confusing about an attractive lady in stilettos, Mark.
    When I see it I know exactly how I feel.

  23. Elle

    It must be a sport, for some, to attack older women and target their age … even those women that agree with your political ideology.

    Only that some have commented about me being old (hi JC, et al), I will respond.

    At 52, I don’t feel old. No wrinkles yet. Blessed with smooth skin. A fit gal.

    Not a grandmother yet, but I absolutely can’t wait to be one. 

    After watching mum die last year the grief rendered me completely grey. I want to embrace it. Still spending hundreds of dollars every couple of months to cover the silver though. Silly.

    Sigh.

    Doing this on my phone. Link to follow.

  24. Notafan

    Lizzie

    your direct answers are noted

    I did not goad. verbal or misrepresent, I asked you to support your contention, and after several shifts of the goal posts you declared that you were only ‘musing’.

    This is a forum for robust debate and I have been involved in many, over the years, but after all this time, for some reason, you think your thoughts are sacrosanct.

    You can do whatever you like. and so shall I.

  25. DrBeauGan

    Have you actually heard Kiwis speak?

    Yes. There was one who wanted to take his girlfriend away for sux nights of wild timpistuous sox.

  26. JC

    True. I predicted here that Trump would win the primary and the presidency way back. He is just far smarter than any of his opponents. He’ll win his second term too.

    Doc, I’m really surprised at your comment. Whatever your prediction, it was/is TOTALLY immaterial in terms of impact on the final result. Also, your prediction, or more accurately, outside bet, was forward looking, so you had no way of knowing the result unless you owned a time machine.
    Looking back at the final result doesn’t make your prediction any cleaner , especially when consideration is given to the fact that Crooked won 3 million more votes. It was a fluke… 100 to 1 shot.

    Markets ultimately decide betting odds. If there was a bet permutation that had Crooked winning the popular vote plus 3 million but Trump took on the election because of 90,000 votes in the right place, I would argue that bet would have to been priced at 100:1.

  27. Elle

    My link is in moderation. It is about gals embracing gray hair.

  28. Lysander

    Of course you can.
    Have you actually heard Kiwis speak?
    My God man.

    I don’t count Kiwis as a “human”itarian influx 🙂

  29. JC

    Snoopy
    #2931771, posted on February 12, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    Just the worst pair of Negative Nancies.

    They weren’t just negative, they were anti. Unforgettable and unforgivable.

    At the very beginning, you couldn’t tell him and Bernie apart. Excuse me if I was turned off by two socialists.

  30. Makka

    As the fruit of immigrant parents, I can hardly be anti-immigration…

    But… I can’t help but think it is one big ponzi scheme. Right?

    In the past, up until the 90’s, immigration had done/was doing a lot of good for the country. Problems were seen manifesting then though particularly with the moslem immigrants and their children. Welfare parasites. However since then the insane immigration ramp up we have seen has ruined the country. It’s supported by both parties because a) immigration buttresses the ever important GDP numbers which scares the shit out of the UNiparty and b) immigration is a voteherd to exploit.c) House prices. It’s a ponzi, yes.And the UN is aggressive pro-migration so the UNiparty must support it.

    In the process, it’s FUBAR’d our big cities where around 60% of us live. In essence, you and your quality of life don’t matter.

  31. Stimpson J. Cat

    JC lots of people didn’t pick Trump.
    Respected Political Commenters like Ben Shapiro didn’t pick Trump.
    It’s fine.

  32. JC

    Gaining the Presidency is a win, by any measure. mh is right of course. You were quite negative on Trump during the election and went with the betting numbers. You got it completely wrong, so now it’s a fluke.

    Interesting how a “lather” is also a mind reader and an election mufti.

    I wasn’t just negative, but extremely negative to someone peddling Bernie bros policies at the outset. You have absolutely no fucking idea on economics other than Kinship Economics and CFMEU income theory. You wouldn’t understand the fucking difference.

    By the way, he hasn’t pushed out 12 million illegals and in fact is making noises about increasing legal immigration.

    You’re just a thicko with a fat mouth.

  33. Lysander

    Makka, wouldn’t it be better to do a Costello and encourage, say, Aussies to have kids?

    Just a thought…

    I’ve got a friend in Perth who takes rich Chinese businessmen (yes men usually) on boat tours up and down the river looking at real estate. There are ways and means of buying in if you know how. All this does is provide a false bubble and locks out many “ordinary Australians” from buying in.

  34. JC

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2931808, posted on February 12, 2019 at 3:57 pm

    JC lots of people didn’t pick Trump.
    Respected Political Commenters like Ben Shapiro didn’t pick Trump.
    It’s fine.

    True, I thought Crooked would win.

  35. Makka

    Settle down, precious. Your hopeless predictions were always going to come back and haunt you. You’ve certainly made enough of them. And don’t be calling anyone here fatmouth, fatmouth. That’s your very own personal monicker and fkn well deserved as well.

  36. Memoryvault

    At 52, I don’t feel old. No wrinkles yet. Blessed with smooth skin. A fit gal.

    52!!
    Yikes. I’ve been cradle snatching.

  37. Boambee John

    Just re-reading (it’s been on the book shelf for a while) Property &Freedom by Richard Pipes.

    He quotes James Madison on property including “everything to which a man attach a value and have a right; and which leaves to everyone else a like advantage. … a man has prooerty in his opinions and the free communication of them. He has a property of peculiar value in his religious opinions, and in the profession and practice dictated by them.”

    He also adds in safety and liberty.

    How far have we drifted from this?

  38. JC

    Settle down, precious.

    No.

    Your hopeless predictions were always going to come back and haunt you.

    True, 2016/2017 being possibly my best years trading/investment are haunting, but not in the way you think. They’re haunting because I don’t think it will ever be repeated.

    You’ve certainly made enough of them. And don’t be calling anyone here fatmouth, fatmouth. That’s your very own personal monicker and fkn well deserved as well.

    Stick to Kinship Economics and CFMEU wage theory, dickhead and then posting excerpts from links totally contradicting your own previous arguments. You ham head.

  39. DrBeauGan

    Doc, I’m really surprised at your comment. Whatever your prediction, it was/is TOTALLY immaterial in terms of impact on the final result. Also, your prediction, or more accurately, outside bet, was forward looking, so you had no way of knowing the result unless you owned a time machine.
    Looking back at the final result doesn’t make your prediction any cleaner , especially when consideration is given to the fact that Crooked won 3 million more votes. It was a fluke… 100 to 1 shot.

    Markets ultimately decide betting odds. If there was a bet permutation that had Crooked winning the popular vote plus 3 million but Trump took on the election because of 90,000 votes in the right place, I would argue that bet would have to been priced at 100:1.

    And I’d have won because I was right.

    If it’s a two horse race and it’s a strong healthy horse against an old nag with the glanders back the healthy one. Likewise if it’s a strategy game, back the superior brain. Trump is running rings around the democrats.

    I said at the time that there were three phases, all requiring different strategies. First win the nomination, second win the presidency, third run the country. You assumed that his earlier talking was about how he was intending to run the country. It wasn’t. It was intended to get him where he could.

  40. mh

    The Trump rally, posted on page 3, @1:19:25 Trump talks about the Democrats pushing extreme late-term abortion.

    Trump is literally fighting evil.

  41. Zatara

    Crooked won 3 million more votes. It was a fluke

    The popular vote is meaningless in the US Presidential Election process. As I said, Trump read the instructions. Specifically the part that says “Win the electoral college, win the election”.

    The Framers were wary of giving the people the power to directly elect the President — some felt the citizenry too beholden to local interests, too easily duped by promises or shenanigans, or simply because a national election, in the time of oil lamps and quill pens, was just impractical. Some proposals gave the power to the Congress, but this did not sit well with those who wanted to see true separation of the branches of the new government. Still others felt the state legislatures should decide, but this was thought to make the President too beholden to state interests. The Electoral College, proposed by James Wilson, was the compromise that the Constitutional Convention reached.

    The founders were pretty smart dudes. They understood they were forming a Republic, not a Democracy. So this is what they wrote:

    Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

    The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President

    Not a word in there about any popular vote. Trump read the instructions, Hillary read her press clippings.

  42. thefrollickingmole

    If ‘Illary had visited 3 flyover states properly during her campaign she would have won the election.

    Thats how bone headedly stupid her campaign was.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-out-campaigned-clinton-50-percent-key-battlegrounds-final-100-n683116
    Instead, Clinton sent her top surrogates to Wisconsin including her running mate Sen. Tim Kaine, her daughter Chelsea Clinton and her primary opponent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Trump ended up winning Wisconsin by 1 point, the first time a Republican presidential candidate has triumphed there since 1984.

    Also worth mentioning just how hard “dumb” Trump worked, regardless of what you think of him he worked like a Trojan on the campaign trail.

  43. JC

    And I’d have won because I was right.

    Doc, 100:1 shots are not a winning strategy unless you have more money than Croesus. You’ll run out. You’re aware of that, right.

    If it’s a two horse race and it’s a strong healthy horse against an old nag with the glanders back the healthy one. Likewise if it’s a strategy game, back the superior brain. Trump is running rings around the democrats.

    Stop placing it is the present context. We’re talking about before the election.

    I said at the time that there were three phases, all requiring different strategies. First win the nomination, second win the presidency, third run the country. You assumed that his earlier talking was about how he was intending to run the country. It wasn’t. It was intended to get him where he could.

    Yea, mind reading isn’t my strength, especially reading his mind seeing he was a card carrying D’ratter up to 2012. He’d switched around his politics more than his wives, mistresses and girlfriends. He’s stable now, thank goodness.

  44. Memoryvault

    Thanks for that, Zatara.
    I’ve often wondered just how the Electoral College was determined.

  45. JC

    The popular vote is meaningless in the US Presidential Election process. As I said, Trump read the instructions. Specifically the part that says “Win the electoral college, win the election”.

    Zat, of course it’s meaningless in the electoral process. That’s a given. However it’s not meaningless in terms of the weight of votes and then deriving the college. 3 million votes is pretty weighty.

    Trump himself wasn’t expecting to win and there was no one more surprised than he was, according to reports at the time.

    Let’s close this off by agreeing on this.

    Trump’s win was much narrower path than Crooked’s.

  46. Infidel Tiger

    Cameron Joseph
    @cam_joseph
    .
    @realDonaldTrump
    lays out his 2020 case against the Dems: “They’re becoming the party of socialism, late-term abortions, open borders and crime.”

    2020 election winning slogan right there.

  47. zyconoclast

    Jussie Smollett’s neighbors cast doubt on his attack story

    CHICAGO — Nearly two weeks after “Empire” star Jussie Smollett claimed he was the victim of a racist, homophobic attack, cops have yet to identify any suspects — and some people in his tony Chicago neighborhood are growing skeptical.

    “I don’t believe it happened the way he said it did,” said Agin Muhammad, who lives in the same swank high-rise near the Navy Pier as Smollett.

    “I’ve been in this neighborhood five years. I don’t believe it, not around here … Half the people are gay and the other half are black.”

    A patron at Lizzie McNeill’s Irish Pub, about a block from the scene of the alleged Jan. 29 incident, said Smollett’s story “doesn’t really make sense.”

    “It’s a lie, because Chicago is the most liberal city around,” said the man, who wouldn’t give his name. “They have cameras everywhere … Why can’t they find the attack?”

  48. JC

    2020 election winning slogan right there.

    Honest question, as opposed to dishonest.

    Will he win the states that put him over the line in 20? What were they, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan?

    Will be win Florida?

    More to the point, is he going to even run again. I know he’s implying he is, but you never know with him.

    I’m a little squeamish about Penn and Florida.

  49. mh

    Trump himself wasn’t expecting to win and there was no one more surprised than he was, according to reports at the time.

    Yes, and Melania was in tears. I remember those reports.

  50. stackja

    zyconoclast
    #2931837, posted on February 12, 2019 at 4:26 pm

    DT federalize national guard?

    Title 10 service means full-time duty in the active military service of the United States. The term used is federalized. Federalized National Guard forces have been ordered, by the President to active duty either in their reserve component status or by calling them into Federal service in their militia status.

    Why Governors Should Veto National Guard Deployments More Often. … So long as the president does not federalize National Guard troops for the purposes of a “national emergency,” a state governor, who is the Commander in Chief of the state’s National Guard troops, can refuse to send personnel as requested.Apr 17, 2018

  51. zyconoclast

    Should White Boys Still Be Allowed to Talk?

    When you ask a question at a lecture, is it secretly just your opinion ending with the phrase “do you agree?” If so, your name is something like Jake, or Chad, or Alex, and you were taught that your voice is the most important in every room. Somewhere along your academic journey, you decided your search for intellectual validation was more important than the actual exchange of information. Now how do you expect to actually learn anything?

    American society tells men, but especially white men, that their opinions have merit and that their voice is valuable, but after four years of listening to white boys in college, I am not so convinced. In my time at Dickinson I have listened to probably hundreds of white boys talk. It feels incessant. From classes and lectures, to the news and politics, there is an endless line of white boys waiting to share their opinions on the state of feminism in America, whether the LGBTQ+ population finally has enough rights, the merits of capitalism, etc. The list of what white boys think they are qualified to talk about is endless. Something very few of them seem to understand is that their (ill-informed, uncritical) opinions do not constitute truth. In fact, most often their opinions aren’t even original. White boys spout the narrative of dominant ideologies and pretend they’re hot takes instead of the same misleading garbage shoved down our throats by American institutions from birth.

  52. JC

    Yes, and Melania was in tears. I remember those reports.

    They weren’t just reports, mh. He said this to business guys he was meeting after the election and before inauguration day.

    Scepticism is good until it veers towards conspiracy theories or open slather disbelief. Be careful.

  53. Armadillo

    2020 election winning slogan right there.

    Needs to be shortened.

    “Death to America” worked a treat in Iran.

    “Socialism is Death” might work.

  54. Makka

    Lysander
    #2931810, posted on February 12, 2019 at 3:58 pm

    “On the River” in Perth is like Pott’s Point or Vaucluse in Sydney. So buying in is just out of reach for the vast majority I’d guess.

    Makka, wouldn’t it be better to do a Costello and encourage, say, Aussies to have kids?

    Just a thought…

    I fear that boat has sailed. It will take a lot of social will and political guts to unwind the current 2 wage situation most Aussie families are currently experiencing. Not to mention a media so virulent with left/green bias blasting parents with AGW , SJW and feminist rubbish 24/7. I get the impression that many folk have so much leftist propaganda force fed to them they aren’t quite sure what they should be more concerned about from one day to the next.

  55. JC

    And as for Melania…. I reckon she tolerates it, but my guess is that it not fun for her to be in DC. In fact, I reckon she hates being the pres wife. But that’s just my personal opinion.

  56. zyconoclast

    the battle of the voteherds.

    I’ll see your 200,000 muselis and raise you …

    220k Wheetbix

  57. Armadillo

    The TV adverts would be cheap. Pick any footage from history you want.

  58. stackja

    zyconoclast
    #2931844, posted on February 12, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    Isis Davis-Marks wants white boys kept under control too.

  59. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Refugee laws could be unconstitutional

    Australian Associated Press
    8 minutes ago February 12, 2019

    Proposed new laws making it easier for asylum seekers to get medical treatment are unconstitutional, the federal government has been advised.

    The solicitor-general told Attorney-General Christian Porter that Labor’s proposed amendments are unconstitutional because they set up a panel of doctors who must be paid.

    The amendments were originally made in the Senate and under the constitution the Senate is not allowed to make bills increasing the spending of public money.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  60. Makka

    fatmouth ;6 breathless posts in just 20 mins. Several dozen every day, all spruicking low wages, open borders , hight immigration etc.

    Walk away from the keyboard JC. Your role as an influencer here is coming undone, lol.

  61. Armadillo

    If you were going to pick a “product” to sell, Socialism would be your last choice.

    It’s like selling rotten tomatoes. The proof is everywhere.

    Trump must be giggling his arse off.

  62. Snoopy

    Unconditional? Please make it so.

  63. Stimpson J. Cat

    In fact, I reckon she hates being the pres wife. But that’s just my personal opinion.

    You are known as The Woman Whisperer JC.
    Your insights into the female mind are almost as keen as mine.

  64. Myrddin Seren

    Should White Boys Still Be Allowed to Talk?

    White boys spout the narrative of dominant ideologies and pretend they’re hot takes instead of the same misleading garbage shoved down our throats by American institutions from birth.

    I will pre-empt David Thompson and introduce you to guest writer Leda Fisher of Dickinson College.

    I am not even going to parse this bio – it is becoming totally impossible to separate parody from Wokeness.

    Click on the link and immerse yourself.

  65. amortiser

    JC
    Trump’s win was a fluke. Crooked received 3 million more votes.

    In the score line below, JC, who is the winner?:

    7-6, 0-6, 7-6, 0-6, 6-4

    The guy who won 3 sets to 2 or the guy who won 28 games to 20?

    Trump answered the right question for the exam, Clinton not so much lol

  66. Stimpson J. Cat

    I think we should be placing bets on:

    1.Whether JC actually likes his new appt when it’s finished.
    2. The state his female inlaws leave it in when they move out.

  67. JC

    fatmouth ;6 breathless posts in just 20 mins. Several dozen every day, all spruicking low wages, open borders , hight immigration etc.

    Dickhead, look upthread and see how many comments you’ve posted… I counted 6 recent ones, all directed toward me with open slather abuse because you’re proven wrong every single time you venture out with rubbish assertions. At least mine were spread out directed to various people.

    Walk away from the keyboard JC. Your role as an influencer here is coming undone, lol.

    Says the key board worrier peddling kinship economics and CFMEU wage theory. You fat mouth clown. Let’s raise wages to help Makka’s family earn more!

  68. Myrddin Seren

    And as for Melania…. I reckon she tolerates it, but my guess is that it not fun for her to be in DC. In fact, I reckon she hates being the pres wife. But that’s just my personal opinion.

    Probably gave her an opportunity to re-negotiate the pre-nup.

    We may find out more in due course – I am having a bet with myself that the Dems will subpoena her and the pre-nup – looking for Wussian links.

  69. Armadillo

    Trying to sell “Socialism” as a political solution must be the most stupid thing ever contemplated. Surely.

    It doesn’t fucking work. Millions of people are dead because of it.

    It’s like selling arsenic.

  70. Makka

    3 million votes is pretty weighty.

    The bulk of which came from the biggest leftard fkd up state in the Union, California. Of whom how many of those were illegals? Clinton won the majority vote but that story is a little more complex that just 2 numbers.

    Investors.com;

    To those unschooled in how the United States selects presidents, this seems totally unfair. But look more closely at the numbers and you see that Clinton’s advantage all but disappears.

    As we noted in this space earlier, while Clinton’s overall margin looks large and impressive, it is due to Clinton’s huge margin of victory in one state — California — where she got a whopping 4.3 million more votes than Trump.

  71. Notafan

    Yes, and Melania was in tears. I remember those reports.

    didn’t Melania successfully sue the Tele for repeating that crap?

  72. JC

    You are known as The Woman Whisperer JC.
    Your insights into the female mind are almost as keen as mine.

    Okay, here goes.

    1. She’s locked up in a big house in DC and can only go out with a big security detail. Zero privacy.
    2. DC is fucking boring compared to NYC.
    3. She finds out her husband was bonking all sorts of sheilas and this has come out only because he’s prez.
    4. She gets a ton of Schick for being married to a nazi fascist nazi Stalinist.
    5. She preferred the NYC school for the kid.

  73. feelthebern

    So are the Bahraini security forces really bad at what they do? Who knows, with undamaged legs he might have scored 4 or 5 goals per season. Australia the sucker country.

    A lot of stink around this.
    Back in the day, the media would have been very sceptical of this stuff.
    Nowadays, he’ll be thrown a parade.
    It also shows just how bullshit these red notices are.
    The Magnitsky act is also bullshit & John McCain was the idiot who pushed it hard.
    Feel sorry for the Thai’s being put in the middle of this arab shit too.

  74. thefrollickingmole

    Myrddin

    Fake news..

    Favorite class:

    One of the most interesting classroom experiences was Fat Studies with Professor [of American Studies and Women’s, Gender & Sexuality Studies Amy] Farrell. I got to learn about a subject I didn’t have much experience with and then connect it to so many different fields.

  75. Mark A

    Memoryvault
    #2931797, posted on February 12, 2019 at 3:47 pm

    just that you may have been momentarily confused)

    There’s nothing confusing about an attractive lady in stilettos, Mark.
    When I see it I know exactly how I feel.

    MV, you seem to have a one-track mind at the moment.

    It’s not the high heels, that I was commenting on but the ghastly, shiny chromium plated toes an the spikes mounted thereupon.

    Those shoes almost cry out for tatts and nose rings.

  76. JC

    Notafan
    #2931869, posted on February 12, 2019 at 4:51 pm

    Yes, and Melania was in tears. I remember those reports.

    didn’t Melania successfully sue the Tele for repeating that crap?

    No I think she successfully sued because they accused her of being a hooker before hooking up to Trump (hahahha get it). At least that’s what I recall.

  77. Memoryvault

    Uh oh.
    I think the deluge that drowned Townsville just arrived.
    Can’t see more than about a metre out of the window ‘cos the rain is so heavy.
    And gale-style gusts are blowing it sideways, virtually parallel with the ground.

  78. Old School Conservative

    JC
    #2931715, posted on February 12, 2019 at 2:27 pm
    Old school
    Firstly, buying a home is not hardship. It’s a trade off.

    It may have escaped your trader’s eye that YOU raised the term hardship and then proceeded to define it, and then criticised me for using it.
    I did not use that term, I simply said that high interest rates made mortgage payments difficult.

    Your verbaling doesn’t work here.
    PS speaking in the 3rd person was me talking about you, not to you.
    PPS your intimate knowledge of ladyboys is noted.

  79. Notafan

    The claim that Mrs Trump cried on election night is also false.

    here it is

  80. thefrollickingmole

    Trying to sell “Socialism” as a political solution must be the most stupid thing ever contemplated. Surely.

    It doesn’t fucking work. Millions of people are dead because of it.

    It’s like selling arsenic.

    Nope its like this vid the sale of socialism being at 6:30, the reality being at about 6:48

    (also GOAT filmclip)

  81. Stimpson J. Cat

    Okay, here goes.

    Nah.
    1. She gets free clothes and shoes from the top designers in the world, and is essentially still a top model, at her age.
    2. She gets to sit around playing Fortnite with Barron.
    3. She gets to do charity stuff with the kids.

    Trust me she loves it.

  82. zyconoclast

    WASHINGTON – Three Democratic lawmakers have asked House administrators to clarify whether government funds can be used to buy feminine hygiene products for their offices.

    Reps. Sean Patrick Maloney (D-N.Y.), Grace Meng (D-N.Y.) and Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) wrote a letter to House Administration Committee Chair Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) asking whether their office allocations can cover tampons and other feminine hygiene products.

  83. JC

    I did not use that term, I simply said that high interest rates made mortgage payments difficult.

    semantics watch.

    Your verbaling doesn’t work here.

    WTF does verbaling even mean anyway? Were there too many verbs in the criticism?
    Look, you fucked up. Admit it and move on.

    Again, 12% interest rate on a low capital value is better than a lower interest rate on a massively higher capital value.

    If you wish to dispute that, you’re just going to appear more foolish.

  84. Armadillo

    I reckon any Cat could make a 30 second TV advertisement discounting Socialism as an alternative.

    You just need footage of gulags, concentration camps and every other Socialist shit hole on the planet.

    It would need a “voice over”. Kiwis and their screeching voices need not apply. It’s irritating.

  85. Memoryvault

    MV, you seem to have a one-track mind at the moment.

    True, Mark.
    But it’s been a long moment.
    Over fifty years, so far.

    It’s not the high heels, that I was commenting on but the ghastly, shiny chromium plated toes an the spikes mounted thereupon.

    You look at the toe-caps?
    Kinky.

    My vision is much loftier.
    About thigh high, in fact.

  86. Lysander

    Yes makka I totally agree that boat has sailed long long ago!!!

    (sorry for delay!)

    🙂

  87. calli

    Those shoes almost cry out for tatts and nose rings.

    🤣

    I was thinking more of their weaponised usefulness. For those unable or unwilling to wear stilettos.

    Looks like I’ll just have to depend on the housebrick in the handbag. Until the firearm laws change.

    Yeah. I know. Hell will freeze over first.

  88. Old School Conservative

    Trump himself wasn’t expecting to win and there was no one more surprised than he was, according to reports at the time.

    So a highly motivated businessman with a long track record of success in many competitive fields enters the biggest race of his life but doesn’t expect to win.
    Pull the other one.

  89. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ‘Come on, have a go’: Dragons star faces court over gang rape allegations

    Police allege Mr De Belin continued to rape the woman, at times putting his hand around her throat, making it hard for her to breathe.

    Afterwards, the woman said she had a shower before ordering an Uber to take them to Fever Nightclub. She said she left soon after they arrived at the venue and contacted a friend.

    As you do after being raped

  90. Arky

    I reckon any Cat could make a 30 second TV advertisement discounting Socialism as an alternative.

    ..
    Well off you go then.
    Post the link up here when you are done.

  91. zyconoclast

    Home Office urged to release leftwing extremism report
    Politicians express concern over documents drafted by Extremism Analysis Unit

    The Home Office is facing calls to release a report called Leftwing Activism and Extremism in the UK, which has been prepared by its extremism analysis unit (EAU).

    Jenny Jones, one of several politicians and activists whose inclusion on a domestic extremist database previously caused a furore, are among those expressing concerns about the report after its existence was revealed by a freedom of information request by the Guardian.

    Jones said: “Over the past decade, the police have become more and more confused about their duty to facilitate peaceful protest and are prone to see any disruption as extremist. The Met police put me on their domestic extremist database for years, when I was a member of their own oversight body, the Police Authority and deputy mayor of London,” said Jones.

    “It is deeply worrying that the Home Office has a report that must include definitions of extremism that many people would see as far too broad, when protest and dissent are necessary within a democracy.”

    An FOI request by the Guardian found that the Home Office’s EAU – which was established by Theresa May in 2015 and has been involved in drawing up a blacklist of individuals and organisations with whom the government and public sector should not engage – has produced, or is planning to produce, more than 21 reports.

    Three have titles indicating they are focused on the far right, such as Impact of Far Right Ideology on Young People and Rightwing Extremism – UK Groups.

    Three others contained the word “Islamist”, including How Islamist Extremists Gain Legitimacy. Others appear to be focused on the impact or reaction to terror events of recent years, such as Manchester Attack One Week On – Reaction and London Bridge Attack Islamophobic Sentiments.

    The list also contained reports called UK Sikh Nationalism and Women and Girls in Extremism.

    A Home Office spokesperson said: “The work by the extremism analysis unit helps improve our understanding of all types of extremism and guide how we should respond.”

    Detailing the work of the EAU when she was home secretary, May said the unit would “help us to develop a new engagement policy – which will set out clearly for the first time with which individuals and organisations the government and public sector should engage and should not engage”.

    The EAU was also involved in developing a “counter-entryism” strategy to tackle Islamist radicalisation and ensure there is no repeat of the Trojan horse affair in Birmingham schools across the public sector.

  92. Makka

    all directed toward me with open slather abuse because you’re proven wrong every single time you venture out with rubbish assertions.

    So you’re a victim now. And still a liar. You will note I respond (with facts and linked data) when you initiate your abuse , fatmouth. Abuse resulting from being exposed as a globalist huckster pushing your low wage , high immigration, open borders loony libertarian garbage. Telling everyone what’s best for them from where, 15 floors up in the NY apartment? Lol.

  93. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The end of China’s draconian one-child policy has failed to bring an expected boom in births, adding yet another headwind to the country’s economy and compounding worries about its long-term growth potential.

  94. thefrollickingmole

    Please.stop.the.winning….
    This is just funny/pathetic.
    Pinched from instapundit.
    https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1095142342628003841

    O’Rourke speaks and Trump rally music is audible coming from a quarter mile away

  95. Armadillo

    Buy a “starters gun”, Calli.

    They come in replicas of hand guns. Just tell “the Plod” you are on your way to/from a little athletics meeting.

  96. Old School Conservative

    JC I’ll take your “semantics” comment as a backdown and an acknowledgement that your Cathy Newman technique of putting words into your opponents’ mouths has failed.
    Again.

  97. JC

    So a highly motivated businessman with a long track record of success in many competitive fields enters the biggest race of his life but doesn’t expect to win.
    Pull the other one.

    I don’t need to pull anything unlike you, Old School.

    I still believe the reason he won was because he wasn’t that moved about winning the election all that much. Also, he was smart enough to realize his path to victory was much tighter than hers.

    I think other people would agree that you seem get good things happening to you when you’re also settled mentally if you don’t. Hoping to get something in an all consuming can wreck one’s chances.

    Shouldn’t you be spending more time formulating an apology for that previous idiocy about interest rates and capital value?

  98. JC

    Old School Conservative
    #2931897, posted on February 12, 2019 at 5:12 pm

    JC I’ll take your “semantics” comment as a backdown and an acknowledgement that your Cathy Newman technique of putting words into your opponents’ mouths has failed.
    Again.

    That’s one really sad way of apologizing, Old School. I expected better from you.

  99. cohenite

    With Ilhan Omar’s latest comments I defy anyone to name a sane woman in the demorats.

  100. Makka

    You just need footage of gulags, concentration camps and every other Socialist shit hole on the planet.

    Arma, most people don’t do history. Gulags and concentration camps were like over a whole century ago. That doesn’t count anymore, right?It’s all been fixed up.

    30 seconds of a DILO ( day in the life of) present day Venzuela would do it. Easily.

  101. JC

    So you’re a victim now. And still a liar. You will note I respond (with facts and linked data) when you initiate your abuse , fatmouth. Abuse resulting from being exposed as a globalist huckster pushing your low wage , high immigration, open borders loony libertarian garbage. Telling everyone what’s best for them from where, 15 floors up in the NY apartment? Lol.

    Yep, I’m supporting all Fair Work wages decisions because your family depends on wages increases coming from a Lairs party committee. I’m also supporting credentialism because it helps your family members claw even more wage hikes. I support kinship economics and CFMEU wage theory… just to help out your family members. You arfer Scargill-like clown Makka.

  102. Armadillo

    Well off you go then.
    Post the link up here when you are done

    Nope. Not happening. My Russian accent will convince no one.

  103. cohenite

    Police allege Mr De Belin continued to rape the woman, at times putting his hand around her throat, making it hard for her to breathe.

    Afterwards, the woman said she had a shower before ordering an Uber to take them to Fever Nightclub. She said she left soon after they arrived at the venue and contacted a friend.

    Let’s face it anytime a bloke roots a sheila there’s a risk of a r..e accusation; and it’s tough to refute such a claim; except if you’re tits.

  104. bespoke

    An interesting discussion between Bettina Arndt and Heather Mac Donald. About halfway though Heather says the sexual revaluation didn’t benefit women then goes onto saying college boys and girls could just say no (my interpretation). It looks like Arndt was a bit put out. Heather also had a friendly shot at Tucker in a interview with Ruben about not giving the working class agency of there own predicament.

  105. Old School Conservative

    Shouldn’t you be spending more time formulating an apology for that previous idiocy about interest rates and capital value?

    JC, that is proof positive that you use the “So what you’re saying is…” technique.
    YOU raised the capital value issue, not me. YOU focussed on a definition of hardship, not me. You then argue against the straw men YOU created.
    Since I’ve comprehensively owned you on this one, I’ll depart the field a deserved winner and wait for the next joust.

  106. Armadillo

    We need someone with a Texan drawl. Are the blokes from the “Dukes of Hazzard” still about?

    Does anyone have their email address?

  107. Stimpson J. Cat

    Senator Rand Paul
    @RandPaul
    Do you want to know what neocons are? They are pro-war liberals! They don’t care about fiscal or social conservatism. They only care about staying in perpetual war. Why are we surprised that the Never Trump bunch is up in arms? He’s ending wars, and that’s a GREAT thing!

  108. Clam Chowdah

    Lizzie, that was a great book review you had in Quadrant. Even before I saw your name as the author I’d read half of it and flagged it as a purchase.

  109. Arky

    Who else aside from me is keen to see the leprous one’s efforts?
    An anti – socialism advert.
    Great idea.
    Now listen, with your extensive experience criticising YouTube videos, and endless available time in the small hours, I expect nothing short of farkin’ awesome results.
    Let me know if you need any tips on editing.

  110. Armadillo

    I just asked Miss A if she knew who JR Ewing is.

    Blank look. FMD.

  111. Arky

    If you don’t have the courage to attach your face to the results, and decide to use a cartoon program instead, I will enjoy getting tips off you in future, as I would like to give making cartoons a go, but have no idea what software to use.

  112. Armadillo

    Let me know if you need any tips on editing.

    Don’t refer me to the bloke who did yours. He was fucking hopeless.

  113. JC

    YOU raised the capital value issue, not me.

    Of course I did. How else to demonstrate your flimsy argument that high interests at the time were difficult to service. I presented the glaring contrast between now and then and argued that comparatively speaking it’s harder now than in the previous times when interest rates were high.

    YOU focussed on a definition of hardship, not me. You then argue against the straw men YOU created.

    You defined high interest rate repayment as difficult. Used in that sense “difficult” and “hardship” is interchangeable. Stop the pedantry.

  114. Anthony

    Word is that the US Congress will give $1.3B towards building the wall. They obviously must believe it to be worthwhile to allocate any funds.
    Next week Trump can ask for another $1.3B. They have acknowledged the process.
    The wall should stop at California then turn north and wall off California.
    Then the National Guard stationed in California can defend the Mexico/California border.

  115. rickw

    The end of China’s draconian one-child policy has failed to bring an expected boom in births, adding yet another headwind to the country’s economy and compounding worries about its long-term growth potential.

    Of course those impacted by this were mostly the ordinary folk. I met a Chinese woman who had a brother and a sister. How? Daddy was a high ranking party official. Don’t think for a minute that the policy was universal.

    The Communist Party deprived the poorest and lowest of the one joy that they could all afford, children.

  116. JC

    Makka

    Let me explain the real world to you. I don’t care about your family members earning a high or low wage. I do care though, if the wage is determined by an installed liar party committee, because that’s just stealing from someone else. The fact that you support fictitious non-market determined ways for your family to earn higher wages, such as Fair Wank along with credentialism is, in my mind, no more than encouraging theft.

    You’ve supported both wage fixing and credentialism in the past, which means you really shouldn’t be hanging around libertarian blogs.. Just pathetic.

  117. Arky

    It can’t be hard to draw a cartoon manky, syphilitic, leprosy infected and wretched creature.
    You could play a citizen suffering the results of socialism.
    Script writes itself.
    Poor Mexican Armadillo, attempting to make it to the USA, but directionally confused by it’s plethora of rampant STDs instead makes it’s way to Venezuela, repeatedly raped along the way, then imprisoned in a gulag and eaten by starving PU’s who then die painfully from the toxins, but not before declaring their undying love for their country, despair at it’s socialist predicament, and hatred of armadillos.

  118. Anthony

    U.S.just in
    Tiger found overweight, abandoned in Houston home

    From Fox News.
    Wondered what happened to him.

  119. Armadillo

    as I would like to give making cartoons a go

    Good Lordy. No need to wreck Toms early morning gig. That’s just spiteful.

  120. rickw

    Trump is literally fighting evil.

    Yep, evil that is so evil that without hesitation it thinks itself good.

  121. bespoke

    I reckon any Cat could make a 30 second TV advertisement discounting Socialism as an alternative.

    No need just show them this is what happens.

  122. Armadillo

    Tiger found overweight, abandoned in Houston home

    Tiger Woods?

  123. Makka

    Let me explain the real world to you

    Sill stinging from your thrashing I see.

    You’re a pathetic specimen, fatmouth. You have no fkg idea about the real world beyond what you read in company reports, the WSJ, finance blogs and what some waiter tells you at the restaurant. But but, your a minor Finance major. Fmd.

    Everyone here knows your a fkg low dog verballing liar too. One example, I’ve challenged you a dozen times to show the quote where I support wage fixing. Nothing, as usual. All blather and BS. That goes down well in New Yoik but here a bullshit artist is too easily spotted. You really should stfu , dickhead.

  124. Nick

    Tiger found overweight, abandoned in Houston home
    Tiger Woods?

    Infidel Tiger

  125. Armadillo

    Sinc, please ban Bespoke.

  126. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    On the female side of apprenticeships, Big Sis tells that they used to send new young nurses off in a hurry to find a neck torniquet.

    I have just had dental work done, for which I hit the Valium. It is now hitting me back.
    I am in bed. Hairy has just brought me a nice cup of tea. People take this stuff for fun?
    Valium, that is. Not tea. My head is doing boringly slow input from my zonked eyes and I can’t think of a thing to say that would interest me. It is really bad when you even bore yourzelf. Although it is strangely fascinating to follow the little blipz I am making on the ph9ne’s keyboard as I tell you all this. Dr O’Oirish, my supplier, said it was a pre-med dose. It took 3 dental blocks before I was numb enough for them tp proceed. I wouldn’t let them start till I was zure they could take my jaw away without pain. It’s only a tooth, they laughed. Sez you, was the last thing I really remember saying while suddenly a swarm of bees seemed to be trying to settle in my jaw and then they said all done.

  127. Baldrick

    Roll on a snap election …

    Bevan Shields ✔ @BevanShields
    BREAKING: The government has just lost a historic vote on the floor of Parliament, with the refugee medical bill passing 75-74

  128. Arky

    and I can’t think of a thing to say that would interest me.

    ..
    You’re a writer.
    Help me with the Mexican armadillo refugee anti-socialism script.
    Some dialogue from a female PU lamenting she must die in awful agony and with socially awkward, explosive diarrhea after eating armadillo meat.

  129. Stimpson J. Cat

    Dave Zirin
    @EdgeofSports
    As a J€w, I want to welcome anyone who wants to criticize a lobbying coalition funded by arms manufacturers, evangelical Christians, and allies of the right wing edge of Israeli politics. Criticizing AIPAC is not anti-Semitic and it’s absurd that this even needs to be said.

  130. JC

    You’re a pathetic specimen, fatmouth.

    No I’m not, you are for expecting people to pay up for your freaking family members. That’s basically a form of thieving. Pay for them yourself!

    You have no fkg idea about the real world beyond what you read in company reports, the WSJ, finance blogs and what some waiter tells you at the restaurant. But but, your a minor Finance major. Fmd.

    Lol Says the person supporting credentialism and Fair Wank in order to finagle fictitiously high wage rates foe his family members.

    Everyone here knows your a fkg low dog verballing liar too. One example, I’ve challenged you a dozen times to show the quote where I support wage fixing. Nothing, as usual. All blather and BS. That goes down well in New Yoik but here a bullshit artist is too easily spotted. You really should stfu , dickhead.

    You were asked dozens of times to disavow wage fixing and you’ve been caught criticizing the Howard government relaxing labor market conditions. You were also caught out supporting credentialism. You’re an arfer scargill-like creature. What a sad fuck you are. Kinship economics and CFMEU wage theory is all you have and badly disguised too. Now go away as this is getting boring, as I done with you today.

  131. slackster

    What the hell is going on in Parliament at the moment…

  132. Armadillo

    Infidel Tiger

    Artisinal Infidel Tiger wouldn’t venture far from his home territory. Definately not to Housten.

    He has everything he needs at home, made locally. Plastic, coal, pork. He’s living the dream.

  133. bespoke

    Everyone here knows your a fkg low dog verballing liar

    Makka I have no firm opinion on the topic but speak for yourself.

  134. Geriatric Mayfly

    Shortboy on his hind trotters. It is all about sick people. The Govt. has just lost two votes on these sick people. Looks like it’s about to lose another. Indonesia, Christmas Island, Nauru/Manus then very sick.
    And as a bonus the Senate can now make appropriations as a result of the above.

  135. Armadillo

    with the refugee medical bill passing 75-74

    Who’s votes were crucial?

  136. Stimpson J. Cat

    BREAKING: The government has just lost a historic vote on the floor of Parliament, with the refugee medical bill passing 75-74

    Treacherous Dogs.

  137. Arky

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2931941, posted on February 12, 2019 at 5:52 pm

    ..
    Oh great.
    Venture into that territory again Stimpson.
    You just don’t learn.

  138. Baldrick

    The Govt. has just lost two votes on these sick people. Looks like it’s about to lose another.

    The Stupid.Fucking.Liberals are embarrassing and the Liars and their Greenfilth mates aren’t much better.

    Poor fellow my country.

  139. Geriatric Mayfly

    Morro just sparked up. If this package is passed, it will make good election fodder.

  140. rickw

    Shortboy on his hind trotters. It is all about sick people. The Govt. has just lost two votes on these sick people. Looks like it’s about to lose another. Indonesia, Christmas Island, Nauru/Manus then very sick.
    And as a bonus the Senate can now make appropriations as a result of the above.

    Women Politicians and their idiot male travellers, misplaced concern and care.

  141. candy

    Perhaps “expecting” to win is not relevant. Trump wanted to win and did his utmost to win. He had a suite of policies which he is now implementing so he had been thinking about it all for some years. “MAGA” must have been the result of long term thought and planning, not just a sudden whim.

    I’m not sure in any competition, gamble, etc, at a top level that a sensible person “expects” or does “not expect” to win. It’s more goal orientated and perseverance and taking things day by day, even hour by hour in some competitions.

  142. Makka

    You’re becoming manic, fatmouth. You can’t squeeze enough lies into one spittle flecked post now. Calm down. You’re an embarrassment.

    When you fk off to your NY apartment, please consider not ever coming back. It would be a win win. Human garbage such as you would be especially at home with the open border , low wage bankster detritus of NY.

  143. Stimpson J. Cat

    Oh great.
    Venture into that territory again Stimpson.
    You just don’t learn.

    Imagine being afraid to comment about any issue on a “Libertarian Blog” .
    I really can’t.
    😎

  144. Geriatric Mayfly

    Another motion re the sick people from the traitors gets up. Govt. loses again. One more to go.

  145. Makka

    You’re excused then, bespoke.

  146. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks, Clam. That book is a good read. So many interesting anecdotez in it. I tried to give something of the flavour. An extraordinary migration. Sharply written too. Insightful and beautifully ascerbic. It impelled me to do likewise in my own way.

    I wish I had more time for book and TV reviewing. I enjoy it.

  147. Geriatric Mayfly

    And yet another goes down. Final vote on its way. A mysterious epidemic reported to be now sweeping Nauru and Manus. The panel of six doctors pulling phones from the pockets, as I write.

  148. Armadillo

    I think that political parties have been putting “plants” within each other’s parties for years.

    Look at what happened in New England. Not so much with Tony Windsor, but more with Richard Torbay. That fucker just disappeared off the planet. He was groomed by Eddie Obeid.

    Some really dark stuff happening in politics, and the US is no different. In fact, that’s where Austalian politicians and their hacks learn their tricks.

    It’s a disgraceful game these lot are involved in. Just fucking terrible.

  149. Nick

    Lives are at risk Mayfly ! /sarc.

  150. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oh dear, Clam.I have used a long word with the banned p-word in it. Will re-repost later as I am not up to wrestling with phone cut and paste right now. Need to źźzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  151. struth

    Here we go.
    Phelps should never have been let out the kitchen.

    She will end up causing more human misery and death than any good she ever did as a doctor.
    Phelps, Doctor death.
    Doctor of drowning.

  152. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Labor has ‘failed the test’: Morrison

    Scott Morrison says Labor has “failed the test” on border security with the medivacs amendments.

    “There is no form of this bill, no form of this bill, that does not weaken our borders,” he says.

    “We urge this House not to undo what is not broken.

    “The Labor Party can win as many votes in this House as they like … they are failing the test of mettle, they failing the test of duty to the Australian people.

    “This is now on your head, Leader of the Opposition.”

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  153. Lysander

    Stanley Melbourne Bruce just came back to life.

  154. bespoke

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2931941, posted on February 12, 2019 at 5:52 pm
    Dave Zirin
    @EdgeofSports
    As a J€w, I want to welcome anyone who wants to criticize a lobbying coalition funded by arms manufacturers, evangelical Christians, and allies of the right wing edge of Israeli politics. Criticizing AIPAC is not anti-Semitic and it’s absurd that this even needs to be said.

    ==

    Greg Shill Retweeted Ilhan Omar
    Fun fact: AIPAC is a 501(c)(4), not a political action committee. They engage in advocacy but do not fund campaigns. Love them or hate them, they don’t “pay” politicians even in the sense that this Congresswoman means.

  155. Arky

    Imagine being afraid to comment about any issue on a “Libertarian Blog” .

    ..
    Libertarian are you?
    Sounds about right.
    Lets see if you pass the libertarian quiz:
    (Y/N)
    1. I believe in the unalienable right of every beagle to a government- recognised marriage.
    2. It is every wealthy granny’s right to be terminated before they become a burden to me and/ or run down the estate.
    3. I drive a SAAB.

  156. Makka

    “There is no form of this bill, no form of this bill, that does not weaken our borders,” he says.

    Shorten will try to ban all reporting on border related issues, in the name of privacy and National Security.

  157. Farmer Gez

    And yet another goes down. Final vote on its way. A mysterious epidemic reported to be now sweeping Nauru and Manus. The panel of six doctors pulling phones from the pockets, as I write.

    This is going to cost the taxpayer plenty.
    Luckily, being a small to medium Australian business, I don’t expect to make a profit anytime soon, so you poor salaried suckers are in for a skinning.

  158. Bruce of Newcastle

    BREAKING: The government has just lost a historic vote on the floor of Parliament, with the refugee medical bill passing 75-74

    ScoMo should call a confidence vote in the government.
    If he wins, this vote is discredited.
    If he loses Shorten will be PM and ScoMo the underdog.
    ScoMo can then let rip – dump RET, dump s18c, the lot.
    That challenges the wets to win or die politically.

  159. Stimpson J. Cat

    Libertarian are you?

    Of course I am not.
    Learn to read and code and build old cars.
    😁

  160. Armadillo

    zyconoclast
    #2931970, posted on February 12, 2019 at 6:23 pm

    Free trade should have always been their focus.

    I’ll be very interested to see if Trump backs the UK, and starts punishing the EU. He should. The EU is the enemy.

  161. Cassie of Sydney

    I see Stimpson is on his favourite topic again.

  162. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And yet another goes down. Final vote on its way. A mysterious epidemic reported to be now sweeping Nauru and Manus. The panel of six doctors pulling phones from the pockets, as I write.

    Another $100,000 medevac to Australia for a severe case of constipation? I’d suggest any board contains a couple of military medical officers, wise in the ways of detecting malingerers.

  163. Nick

    Scott Morrison says Labor has “failed the test” on border security with the medivacs amendments

    Given the hundreds the Libs have already let in on medical grounds, how can he take the high ground on this ?

  164. Armadillo

    I drive a SAAB.

    Only Sheliahs drive a SAAB, Arky.

  165. candy

    Hard to believe the Libs could not convince the cross benchers of what is at stake.

    One thing to bring children out of detention or find a place in USA for them, but another to put a crack in border protection and risk everything so hard won on the say-so on one high profile doctor in the wealthiest electorate in Australia.

  166. Woolfe

    I hope the pay to view one is a bit longer Arkenator!

  167. Armadillo

    Learn to read and code and build old cars.

    Ouch!

  168. Lysander

    Oy stop that!

    I do drive a Saab… and a nice convertible one at that!

  169. Arky

    libertarian quiz continued…
    4. National borders are a travesty and a slight on every man’s right to live anywhere in the world he wants to, but here in particular, and while we recognise that the evil welfare state cannot coexist with an open borders policy, we will move to open borders as a necessary prerequisite for the libertarian welfare state – free utopia that we acknowledge can never exist because the next government will just bribe all the new arrivals for their votes with free stuff but that doesn’t matter trust us.
    5. Free trade is all good all the time, even with the most evil regimes on Earth because you would be stupid to turn down shitloads of cheap stuff. No matter what.

  170. Atoms for Peace

    How many of the popular votes in the US election were dodgy.? Given that the Dems fight tooth and nail against voter ID, I’d posit quite percentage. As an aside, it never grows old to hear that Shrilary lost.

  171. Stimpson J. Cat

    Not my favorite topic.
    Just another topic.
    It’s funny you all seem to think it is more important than anything else happening right now in the world.
    Like it has some special resonance more than any other topic.
    Grow up the lot of you.
    Honestly you are all older than me.
    Have some dignity.

  172. Tel

    Arky #2931988,
    I’ll take that as a statement.

  173. JC

    Makka
    #2931955, posted on February 12, 2019 at 6:08 pm

    You’re becoming manic, fatmouth. You can’t squeeze enough lies into one spittle flecked post now. Calm down. You’re an embarrassment.

    That’s a new way of admitting defeat.

    When you fk off to your NY apartment, please consider not ever coming back.

    How about you staying on that sand dune then, dickhead, What a fucking hypocrite you are. Taking work in Africa and not counting yourself as an economic migrant.

    It would be a win win. Human garbage such as you would be especially at home with the open border , low wage bankster detritus of NY.

    lol

    Here’s a chance for you to shine, Arfer.

    Tell us you support market determined labor markets, disavow your previous support of job credentialism and walk back your previous criticism of Howard’s labor market reforms.

    Take a deep breath and push down hard. I know you can’t do it. 🙂

  174. Tintarella di Luna

    Here we go.
    Phelps should never have been let out the kitchen.

    She will end up causing more human misery and death than any good she ever did as a doctor.
    Phelps, Doctor death.
    Doctor of drowning.

    I watched her in parliament she looked like an albino crepey -necked turtle gulping vigorously and nervously at her impending impotence and her abject embarrassment

  175. JC

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2931976, posted on February 12, 2019 at 6:28 pm

    BREAKING: The government has just lost a historic vote on the floor of Parliament, with the refugee medical bill passing 75-74

    ScoMo should call a confidence vote in the government.
    If he wins, this vote is discredited.
    If he loses Shorten will be PM and ScoMo the underdog.
    ScoMo can then let rip – dump RET, dump s18c, the lot.
    That challenges the wets to win or die politically.

    He should just call a double dissolution. It’s over.

  176. Top Ender

    The Australian Catholic University, which produces more teaching graduates than any other tertiary provider, has called for an end to traditional forms of assessment comparing a student to age or grade-level expectations in favour of a system whereby “the only person a student is being compared with is himself (or) herself and their own previous learning”.

    Link

  177. stackja

    Two charged with attempted murder over Tony Mokbel prison stabbing
    Mark Buttler, David Hurley, Shannon Deery, Aneeka Simonis, Herald Sun
    39 minutes ago
    Subscriber only
    Two men have been charged with attempted murder over the savage stabbing attack on fallen drug lord Tony Mokbel and an associate.

    Armed Crime Squad detectives today charged two men, both aged 21, with attempted murder, intentionally causing serious injury and causing serious injury intentionally in circumstances of gross violence over yesterday’s attack.

    The pair will appear at Geelong Magistrates’ Court for a filing hearing on Friday.

    Mokbel remains in a critical condition at Royal Melbourne Hospital after undergoing emergency surgery last night.

  178. Tintarella di Luna

    Obviously resting bitch-face Banks voted for the Phelps Phakery

  179. Armadillo

    I do drive a Saab… and a nice convertible one at that!

    So does Mrs A. Give me the code to the immobiliser. It’s like a State fucking secret.

    Even Google doesn’t know what it is. Apparently the mechanic is awaiting an auto electrician.

    Why the hell SAAB, tells them and no one else is beyond me. It’s not as if someone would want to steal the fucking thing. It’s insured. Take it. You pay to have it serviced “car thief dude”.

    I intentionally left a box of matches in her glovebox.

  180. Tintarella di Luna

    Chris Kenny says the Phelps Phakery will hang around Bill Shorten’s neck like an albatross — I hope it stinks to high heaven and causes him to pass out on a daily basis all the way to the election.

  181. Dr Fred Lenin

    I noticed JC saying Trump hadnt moved out 12 million illegals hes not a “socialist fascist “dictator like Hitler or Stalin,he has an entrenched swamp aparat trying to stop everything he does . Bit difficult without Gestapo or NKVD(KGB)_to enforce your will ,he hasnt even got the DOJ ,FBI or CIA , they are so thoroughly corrupted by the left.

  182. Top Ender

    Watering down educational expectations even more will produce even more disasters.

    Another excuse for continuing to turn out the average disaster area that is the exiting child from Australian schools.

    Try asking your average 16 year old what 20 x 15 is; why WWII started; or how an internal combustion engine works – in a sentence. They can’t figure out any of them.

  183. Bruce of Newcastle

    Learn to read and code and build old cars.

    And grow blackbirds in a greenhouse!
    Or in a pub.
    We make ’em tough here in Newcastle.
    If they can build a nest out of barbed wire and spring steel they can help Arky build a Ford.

  184. Stimpson J. Cat

    Look does this mean we all each have to sponsor and take in a sick refugee?
    I’m out.
    It’s hard enough teaching my refugee kid to read.
    Pull your weight Australia!!!!

  185. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2931996, posted on February 12, 2019 at 6:41 pm

    ACU dean of education policy and strategy Tania Aspland said the problem with imposing a rigid content-based curriculum on a class group irrespective of each student’s ability was that some would succeed and others would fail. She said a more inclusive curriculum started with an assessment of each student’s ability so that personalised learning goals could be devised. “We call it the cycle of success. Students, once they experience success, become more engaged in their learning …
    “It feeds into their self-esteem and the ethos of the class becomes one of chasing success.”

    Teacher Greg Ashman said the proposal was worthy but unworkable. “Imagine I write an essay on Of Mice and Men and then an essay on Ulysses. How can we compare them?” he said.

    “Of Mice and Men is a simple novel to grasp and Ulysses is ­famously dense.”

    Ability, success, failure, simple, dense, that’s life.

  186. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Australian Catholic University, which produces more teaching graduates than any other tertiary provider, has called for an end to traditional forms of assessment

    A fibro turnout rather than sandstone. Once made light to one of their ‘Profs’ about the newly discovered disease called Oppositional Defiance Disorder recently found in youngsters. Something, I was told, which was taken very seriously within the academy. The pre-school wooden spoon was not considered at all relevant.

  187. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Chris Kenny says the Phelps Phakery will hang around Bill Shorten’s neck like an albatross — I hope it stinks to high heaven and causes him to pass out on a daily basis all the way to the election.

    Ditto – Shorten and the Labor party own this one .

  188. Nick

    Chris Kenny says the Phelps Phakery will hang around Bill Shorten’s neck like an albatross — I hope it stinks to high heaven and causes him to pass out on a daily basis all the way to the election.

    The Libs would be silly not to use it as their Tampa moment. Though having said that, they’ve let in hundreds on medical grounds themselves.

  189. Infidel Tiger

    ScoMo should call a confidence vote in the government.
    If he wins, this vote is discredited.
    If he loses Shorten will be PM and ScoMo the underdog.
    ScoMo can then let rip – dump RET, dump s18c, the lot.
    That challenges the wets to win or die politically.

    Lot of peyote been ingested here?

  190. stackja

    Kevin Donnelly opinion on end to traditional forms of assessment?

  191. Mark A

    http://www.fixya.com/tags/reset_immobilizer/browse/saab

    Heaps of other links.
    I even found a small app to find the radio code for my car, using the radio’s serial number.

  192. Cassie of Sydney

    “Tintarella di Luna
    #2932002, posted on February 12, 2019 at 6:45 pm
    Chris Kenny says the Phelps Phakery will hang around Bill Shorten’s neck like an albatross — I hope it stinks to high heaven and causes him to pass out on a daily basis all the way to the election.”

    I hope it strangles Shorten….the man is unfit for office…..adultery and impregnating another’s man wife is the least of his crimes….as we all know.

    I suspect that this might embolden the stupid fucking liberals like nothing else. It’s almost as though the Liberals have needed this since September 2015. Whether they act on it….we’ll see.

    As for that fraud Phelps……..I am ashamed to live in Wentworth.

  193. Nick

    As for that fraud Phelps……..I am ashamed to live in Wentworth.

    Nah, blame the doctors wives who elected her.

  194. stackja

    Scott Morrison suffers historic defeat over asylum seeker medivac bill
    Claire Bickers, National politics reporter, News Corp Australia Network
    5 minutes ago
    Subscriber only
    Scott Morrison has suffered a historic defeat over medical transfers for asylum seekers — despite 11th hour legal advice that it could be “unconstitutional”.

    It makes the Morrison Government the first to lose a vote on a substantive piece of legislation in the lower house since 1929.

    Labor and crossbench MPs voted to pass the legislation just before 6.15pm AEDT.

    All amendments passed 75 votes to 74.

    Constitutional law expert Anne Twomey told News Corp the government would be under pressure to resign or hold an election if it lost the vote after it warned the bill could be “unconstitutional”.

    Boats arrive tomorrow?

  195. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Kerryn Phelps and Richard Di Natale help to strip bare Labor’s border policy weaknessChris KennyFollow @chriskkenny

    11:19AM February 12, 2019
    116 Comments

    Who would have thought the Liberal Party would owe a debt of gratitude to Kerryn Phelps? The independent MP who snatched the prized seat of Wentworth last year has been thought of as a major irritant to the Coalition — a green Left activist masquerading as a centrist and capitalising on a protest vote to push the government into minority.

    But now she has done Scott Morrison a huge favour; she has exposed Bill Shorten and the Labor Party on the central issue of border protection. If not for Phelps, Liberal strategists would now be wondering how they could convince voters that border protection was still a relevant issue at the upcoming election.

    The Bill proposed by the Wentworth independent and the inept way Labor has handled it has exposed the reality of this issue — we now see Labor’s border protection frailty stripped bare. For years Shorten has worked hard to demonstrate he could be strong on borders and not have policy dictated to him by his own party’s Socialist Left but now his policy is being written for him by the likes of Phelps and Greens Leader Richard Di Natale.

    In a debate that has focused on how laws could be changed to give two doctors the greatest say on allowing refugees into this country, the real political damage for Shorten is that he seems beholden to two doctors — Phelps and Di Natale. Labor is exposed on its historical border policy weakness and, for the first time since the height of the royal commission into unions, the Labor Leader has suffered a serious hit on his authority.

    Let us be clear about the Bill before parliament. It is not necessary. It was proposed by MPs — Phelps, fellow independent Andrew Wilkie and Greens MP Adam Bandt — who oppose offshore processing.

    The Bill was passed by the Senate last year in a bid to ensure all children were removed from Nauru. Given all the refugee children are now off Nauru, the main impetus for the Bill is redundant.

    The argument now revolves around a “medical crisis” in Phelps’ words — but this is political rhetoric rather than fact. Medical services are provided at Manus Island and Nauru and refugees are sent elsewhere (almost 900 have been brought to Australia) when additional medical care is deemed necessary.

    It is clear from her comments that Phelps’ true aim is to bring all those held offshore to Australia. “We know that there are just over 1000 refugees on Manus Island and Nauru,” she said on the weekend. “Of those, about a third are considered so unwell that they cannot be treated on Manus Island or Nauru, so that’s just several hundred people, they would be triaged for seriousness, so the most serious cases would come to Australia first for urgent treatment, and then other people as the need arose and as Australia’s resources were able to accommodate them.”

    From the Oz. Kerryn Phelps and Richard Di Natale, as allies. Mary, mother of Jesus.

  196. Tom

    Chris Kenny says the Phelps Phakery will hang around Bill Shorten’s neck like an albatross — I hope it stinks to high heaven and causes him to pass out on a daily basis all the way to the election.

    It’s over, Tinta. As in WA, voters won’t spare this LNP rabble. They’ve had six years to do the right thing by the base. Instead, the Photios communist left staged the Trumble coup.

  197. stackja

    Nick
    #2932016, posted on February 12, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    Dr Phelps have a wife?

  198. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lot of peyote been ingested here?

    Hey, I’m a chemist!
    Not a natural products chemist but.

    ScoMo either finds some peyote-infused obsidian–coated cojones and recaptures the Libs from Photios-the-ALP-supporter or the Libs die forever, probably sooner than later. I have no especial feelings whether they do or don’t, I’m just observing that a cleanout might be engineered if the politics were to be played correctly.

  199. Makka

    Tell us you support market determined labor markets, disavow your previous support of job credentialism and walk back your previous criticism of Howard’s labor market reforms.

    Show me, with links or my quotes as evidence, any of these assertions is true and I might answer you. Until then , this is just more of your blather and bullshit, fatmouth. Your rubbish interpretations or flawed opinions are not substitutes for facts numpty.

    But, I say this again. I have repeatedly commented on support for the UNrigging of our workforce with the Govt vastly reducing our immigrant intake and doing away with the rorted Skilled Migrant Visa programme. Then let the market set values on skills, professions and labour. That helps remove your “wage fixing” scam which you wholeheartedly support ie suppressing wage growth through oversupply of imported immigrant workers. This of course I have already shown you is acknowledged by the RBA , the banks and Senior economists. As opposed to minor Finance majors.

  200. Geriatric Mayfly

    “We call it the cycle of success.

    Twenty or more years ago, the phrase “Access to Success” swept teachers off their feet, handed down as it was from somewhere up high on tablets of stone. Every time I heard it, the ears would spontaneously begin to haemorrhage.

  201. Arky

    Lysander
    #2931987, posted on February 12, 2019 at 6:34 pm
    Oy stop that!
    I do drive a Saab… and a nice convertible one at that!

    ..
    It isn’t definitive, but you should monitor yourself for other libertarian tendencies.
    How do you feel around wealthy grandmothers?

  202. stackja

    Donald Trump Jr.
    ‏Verified account
    @DonaldJTrumpJr
    Beto trying to counter-program @realdonaldtrump in his hometown and only drawing a few hundred people to Trump’s 35,000 is a really bad look.
    Partial pic of the Trump overflow crowd below! #AnyQuestions

  203. Stimpson J. Cat

    “We know that there are just over 1000 refugees on Manus Island and Nauru,” she said on the weekend. “Of those, about a third are considered so unwell that they cannot be treated on Manus Island or Nauru, so that’s just several hundred people, they would be triaged for seriousness, so the most serious cases would come to Australia first for urgent treatment, and then other people as the need arose and as Australia’s resources were able to accommodate them.”

    I warned you about Lesbians.
    Now look what has happened.

  204. Armadillo

    Thanks Mark A. The SAAB is worth more dead than it is alive.

  205. Geriatric Mayfly

    Dr Phelps have a wife?

    Indeed. They wear matching speculums.

  206. Nick

    Dr Phelps have a wife?

    She does Stack, she does

  207. Stimpson J. Cat

    How do you feel around wealthy grandmothers?

    I don’t know that ALL of the Cat Ladies are wealthy.
    Some may just be comfortably well off.

  208. Nick

    Trump is right. It looked like Beto held his in a small car park

  209. Tintarella di Luna

    The Libs would be silly not to use it as their Tampa moment. Though having said that, they’ve let in hundreds on medical grounds themselves.

    Indeed but there was no legislative mallet applied – If this is what they do in opposition imagine what they’ll in government

  210. stackja

    2GB report Canberra blackout and covered by a dust haze. Bull-dust cloud?

  211. Ubique

    Have the first leaky boats left Indonesian ports yet? The Cats should have a lotto on it, with side bets on when the first boat sinks.

  212. Armadillo

    I warned you about Lesbians.

    Liar. If you did, I don’t recall.

    Maybe you did, maybe you didn’t. It’s your onus of proof.

  213. Tintarella di Luna

    It’s over, Tinta. As in WA, voters won’t spare this LNP rabble. They’ve had six years to do the right thing by the base. Instead, the Photios communist left staged the Trumble coup.

    Tom, don’t be too hasty, Marise Payne has not yet sung.

  214. bespoke

    Ubique
    #2932036, posted on February 12, 2019 at 7:06 pm
    Have the first leaky boats left Indonesian ports yet? The Cats should have a lotto on it, with side bets on when the first boat sinks.

    Iampeter has already asked his mum if they can share his room.

  215. Nick

    Indeed but there was no legislative mallet applied – If this is what they do in opposition imagine what they’ll in government

    Watch for the Libs to leak how many new boats have been stopped, where in the past, it was classified.
    Don’t get me wrong, I ant a strict policy, it’s just that the Libs are hypocrites

  216. 1735099

    Boats arrive tomorrow
    Bullshit.
    Read the amendments – applies only to those in detention now.

  217. P

    What a great day it’s been for President Trump in El Paso

  218. stackja

    Nick
    #2932030, posted on February 12, 2019 at 7:03 pm

    I thought Phelps and Jackie Stricker split.

  219. Armadillo

    Indeed. They wear matching speculums.

    And here I was thinking that “Google is my friend”. No. It’s definately not.

    There is such a thing as “too much information”.

  220. Makka

    Tom, don’t be too hasty, Marise Payne has not yet sung.

    I tend to agree. Here now another big issue for the Libs to take aggressively into the Election. The franking credits and Border Security. If they included immigration cut backs and energy ( cancel RET and Paris Accord) they would be real contenders. But, will they?

  221. Stimpson J. Cat

    Holy Jellybeans in the Jungle Batman!!!!
    Who wants the black ones?

  222. Tintarella di Luna

    Numbers back?

    Never went away

  223. Tom

    Hahahaha!!! It’s officially open slather. Numbers is back to put the position of the Vietnamese Communist Party.

  224. stackja

    Sinc goes to SF and strangers return.

  225. P

    Bruce of Newcastle #2932005, posted on February 12, 2019 at 6:47 pm

    And grow blackbirds in a greenhouse!
    Or in a pub.
    We make ’em tough here in Newcastle.

    Wonderful BoN. The video reminded me of the first Mad Max movie.

  226. Geriatric Mayfly

    This panel of doctors to now work pro bono on behalf of the Gubmint. Pull the other one. If not cash, their previous history of freebies from drug companies will not be forgotten.

  227. Farmer Gez

    2GB report Canberra blackout and covered by a dust haze. Bull-dust cloud?

    It’s beautifully poetic isn’t it.
    Whilst our deluded parliament decide to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on non Australians, the dust laden reality of the drought and the huge toll it takes on rural Australia rolls into Disneyland.
    Baz Luhrmann could have directed this no better.

  228. Stimpson J. Cat

    I thought it was Taco Tuesday, not Nasho Wednesday?

  229. Pedro the Ignorant

    Who left the back door open and let that fuckwit from Toowoomba to sneak in?

  230. Snoopy

    1735099
    #2932041, posted on February 12, 2019 at 7:09 pm
    Boats arrive tomorrow
    Bullshit.
    Read the amendments – applies only to those in detention now.

    You idiot. What will the next amendment be?

  231. thefrollickingmole

    At least the last time labor opened business for the smugglers they had the “cover” of a sham inquiry whuich reached that pre-arranged conclusion.

    I know because i put in a submission which predicted, in wearying detail, how it would turn to shit.
    Only part I got wrong was saying I didnt think any boats would arrive till after the monsoon season finished only for them to start nearly immediately.

    Oh and my submission was rejected, apparently someone working immigration detention for 5 years could be dismissed as my information was “outdated”, to put it in perspective Mary-Loon sheep-head had 2 submissions accepted.
    They were so sensitive even then they were culling any negative submissions.

    I did have great pleasure in sending a second email after the boats started to Mr Chris Evans office, but he never replied.

    Heres some of the fantasy stuff we can expect to come around again one peanut head wins the election.
    https://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/house/committee/mig/detention/report/fullreport.pdf

    On 29 July 2008 the new Minister for Immigration and
    Citizenship, Senator the Hon Chris Evans, announced that three groups would be
    subject to mandatory detention: unauthorised arrivals for the purpose of health,
    identity and security checks; those who pose an unacceptable risk to the
    community; and those who have been repeatedly non-compliant with visa
    conditions or immigration processes. Outside these criteria, the Minister expects
    that a person can reside in the community while their immigration status is
    resolved.

    Minister Evans’ announcements signalled a paradigm shift in Australian policy.
    The presumption of detention that defined the policy of the previous Government
    has shifted to an assumption of release following minimum checks. The onus will
    be on the Department of Immigration and Citizenship to demonstrate that
    detention is necessary.

    Membership of the Committee
    Chair Mr Michael Danby MP
    Deputy Chair Hon Danna Vale MP
    Members Senator Andrew Bartlett (to 30 June 2008)
    Senator Catryna Bilyk (from 1 July 2008)
    Ms Yvette D’Ath MP
    Senator Alan Eggleston
    Mr Petro Georgiou MP
    Senator Sarah Hanson-Young (from 27 August 2008)
    Senator Anne McEwen
    Senator Helen Polley (to 1 July 2008)
    Hon Dr Sharman Stone MP (from 10 November 2008)
    Mr Don Randall MP (to 10 November 2008)
    Mr Tony Zappia MP

    If the SFL cant stand up and read excerpts from this and make them defend or deny it then they deserve to lose like weak dogs.

  232. bespoke

    stackja
    #2932048, posted on February 12, 2019 at 7:13 pm
    Numbers back?

    from visiting Nathan Phillips.

  233. Bruce of Newcastle

    Read the amendments – applies only to those in detention now.

    Good to see you back Numbers!
    But as we converse the big men in Indo are telling their marks that all their wishes will come true if only they stump up ten large for a one way ticket to Ashmore Reef.
    Truth in advertising laws don’t seem to apply in the country shopper industry.

  234. thefrollickingmole

    Reminder: This is what they inherited last time…
    From the same report.

    As at 7 November 2008, there were 46 unauthorised air arrivals and
    34 unauthorised boat arrivals in immigration detention. This was out
    of a total detention population of 279.7 The number of unauthorised
    boat arrivals in detention at this time was in fact higher than for the
    rest of 2008 as the first two boats to arrive in 2008 were intercepted in
    September and October.8

  235. Snoopy

    Good Lordy. No need to wreck Toms early morning gig. That’s just spiteful.

    That morning was hilarious.

  236. Atoms for Peace

    So, we bring them here, get them well and ship them back.

  237. Memoryvault

    ScoMo can then let rip – dump RET, dump s18c, the lot.

    You were going great guns up until that line, Bruce.
    The chances of ScoMo – or any other likely Liberal Leader doing that are somewhat less than zero.

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