Moral equivalence

Dr Paul Bauert from Flinders University in Darwin, a paediatrician, has said that the conditions and treatment of people in refugee camps in Nauru is worse than the treatment of the Jews at Auschwitz.

That someone could make such a claim shows just how far the political left has descended to the gutter.

The inhumane treatment of Jews at Auschwitz is beyond compare, with mass starvation, torture, beatings, forced labour and genocide on a scale unprecedented. The six part BBC documentary Auschwitz: the Nazis and the Final Solution documents the horrors of that camp.

Refugees at Nauru are free to move about (and depart if they choose), receive ample food, quality accommodation, do not have to work and are not tortured. No one envies their situation, but they are not mistreated and they have a better situation than those in UN run refugee camps.

To make the comparison that Bauert has is not only ridiculous but it is immoral as it is a form of Holocaust denial. I’m surprised he hasn’t been dismissed from his position because others have said things far less extreme have been hounded from office. This is an intolerable form of moral equivalence and shows that this man has lost his moral compass.

What happened at Auschwitz and Treblinka was an enormity in the proper sense of that word: a monstrous evil – systematic and deliberate murder on an industrial scale. Shame on you Bauert, shame. Your views are unspeakable.

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54 Responses to Moral equivalence

  1. stackja

    Leftists know no shame.

  2. struth

    No one envies their situation, but they are not mistreated and they have a better situation than those in UN run refugee camps.

    I envy their situation.
    I’m thinking of rowing a boat there and claiming asylum.

  3. mh

    Where did he say this? Is it published?

  4. mem

    Anyone who donates to Flinders University is now automatically associated with Dr Bauert. I hope you are happy with his views. Similarly for the management and teaching staff.

  5. mh

    Thanks, Quinny.

    The inhumane treatment of Jews at Auschwitz is beyond compare, with mass starvation, torture, beatings, forced labour and genocide on a scale beyond compare.

    I am someone that is no expert on such a serious subject matter, but I did hear the conditions in Auschwitz were not as bad as some other camps for the reasons that it was designed for extermination and many met their deaths relatively quickly after arrival.

  6. mh

    Thanks, Quinny.

    The inhumane treatment of J*ws at Auschwitz is beyond compare, with mass starvation, torture, beatings, forced labour and genocide on a scale beyond compare.

    I am someone that is no expert on such a serious subject matter, but I did hear the conditions in Auschwitz were not as bad as some other camps for the reasons that it was designed for extermination and many met their deaths relatively quickly after arrival.

  7. Those on Nauru have a better lifestyle than many very poor and homeless Australians.

  8. And I forgot to add that those poor and homeless Australians get none of the aid and support that these ‘refugees’ get when they come to Australia.

  9. Genghis

    Why do not the Australia authorities ask him to explain himself before they disbar him, or is that her!
    Regards,

  10. mem

    I have been told that people who receive special awards during a labor term, often come out later with uncharacteristic supportive comments relating to the party”s cause. It is almost as if someone tapped them on the shoulder asking for support. I know if this happened to me and I was a professional I’d dump them in it by going the whole hog. Perhaps this might explain our Dr’s comments as he seems to have put in the hard yards where it counts.

  11. TBH

    I could scarcely believe those comments. To compare the treatment of refugees in offshore centres to Nazi concentration camps is beyond the pale. Absolutely staggered.

  12. RobK

    Shame on you Bauert, shame. Your views are unspeakable.
    Indeed.

  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I could scarcely believe those comments. To compare the treatment of refugees in offshore centres to Nazi concentration camps is beyond the pale. Absolutely staggered.

    I’m finding it difficult to believe that the University hasn’t distanced themselves, if not sacked him.

  14. candy

    Has he read anything about the gas chambers? He may not be aware of that terrible time of history and is just quoting what some young kids have said to him. He may even think there are gas chambers in Nauru.
    Just because he is a doctor does not mean he has read history.

  15. Unspeakable indeed.
    Explain to me again why he is permitted to speak these words when conservative speakers are banned from our shores?

  16. Tel

    It’s hard to measure in precise terms, but could we consider this to be a result of a central payer medical system where personal integrity has gradually been eroded and replaced with an eagerness to serve big government?

    Only a few generations back, doctors were considered to be pillars of the community, who were extremely cautious about the reputation of their profession and careful not to abuse their position of trust. Now it’s virtue signal, political correctness, be generous with other people’s money, get on every fashionable bandwagon … oh and if in doubt blame the smokers, demand bigger programs, more intervention. If you wanted a case study in how an industry adapts itself around government money, this would be worth a look.

  17. Confused Old Misfit

    If you wanted a case study in how an industry adapts itself around government money, this would be worth a look.

    An industry that has captured a government.

  18. Vagabond

    I weep for my profession sometimes. There are many Bob Brown, Di Natale and Phelps clones out there and the thought of letting a couple of them decide on who comes here is terrifying. I wouldn’t trust them for a microsecond. That AMA human zero is all too representative and it’s not surprising that he’s a paediatrician (which I am not). I have found them to be the most left leaning of my colleagues. Those of us who despise those views are a diminishing cohort unfortunately.

  19. NB

    I imagine Dr Bauert prefers Siberian arrangements, made under the auspices of the hammer and sickle.
    By the way, Flinders University harbours another blistering intellect, Corey Bradshaw, who considers those who question global warming should be shot.
    Donate to Flinders Uni to continue their fine work. Or not.

  20. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Everyone not a communist are nazies and by definition they treat everyone worse than Auschwitz

  21. struth

    That AMA human zero is all too representative and it’s not surprising that he’s a paediatrician (which I am not). I have found them to be the most left leaning of my colleagues.

    They just can’t leave the kiddies alone.
    And Midwives are radical feminazi lezzos on average.

    All starts in our schools.

    Becoming a midwife, as my ex was doing, she had to study Marx, work out male doctors had no right to interfere, as they knew much more than doctors, and the whole troop of Lezzos in the midwifery were out to bed her.
    One said she’d do a threesome with me to get at her.
    There’s some real sickness going on in our medical profession and it’s due precisely to the Universities and schools that churn them out.

  22. The converse of Godwin’s rule of Hitler analogies, is where everyone with a minor complaint wants to ride on the coat tails of the persecution of Jews.

  23. struth

    While learning internal examination for dilating and crowning, a midwife actually said to her, now I hope you can see the difference between doing this as an examination and a sexual act.

  24. TBH

    Struth, I have a good friend who studied midwifery as a mature aged student (currently practicing at a maternity hospital here in Perth) and she is the total opposite of a radfem lezzo. She may be an outlier, but she loves delivering babies, is a normal hetero bird who would agree with a lot of things on the Cat and says she has a good relationship with the ObGyns (one of whom is a whip smart chick I went to school with).

    I dunno, maybe the rest of them are like you describe.

  25. Jannie

    The people in the Nauru refugee camps have a better diet and higher living standards than the vast majority of people in Nauru.

  26. struth

    TBH
    I’m sure there are great midwives out there but they were nearly all lessos in the Alice Springs hospital some years back around the year 2000..

  27. J.H.

    Bauert is a Holocaust denier all right. There is just no other way to explain his utter dismissal of the horrors of the Nazi death camps so casually. No one in their right mind can compare Auschwitz-Birkenau with Nauru’s immigration detention centre and be taken seriously. It’s an obscenity. He’s an obscenity.

    It’ll be interesting to see what happens to him?…. I figure he’ll probably get a free pass on his incredible denial of true horrors, though Bill Shorten is back peddling desperately on the new bill that Labor, the Greens and Independents passed in the Senate the other day, where a couple of activist doctors like Bauert can decide Australia’s entire immigration policy and allow the People Smugglers to flood Australia with illegals and fill the sea with rotting corpses again.

  28. tombell

    but he’s a lefty so he’ll survive just fine. probably will prosper, in fact, under a Shorten stasi.

  29. Win

    Struth .Once soon a time a long time ago around about the 1960s,trainee nurses live in Nurses Homes .Crown Street Women’s hospital (now a housing development) had a fractious group who had loud shouting matches in the dead of night.

  30. Tintarella di Luna

    What the doctor was actually doing was shouting NAZI at the Australian people and the governments they elected. That’s what the clueless git was doing. He should be called out on it, and he is the kind of nitwit that would be sitting on the Centrelink-seeker-enabler panel construed via the Low Act passed by Labor and the five clots including the Gila monster, Trojan and Postcode-arse.

  31. bespoke

    People with just an minimum knowledge should no this was bad. It says a lot about couture he works in.

  32. 2dogs

    No one envies their situation

    Not true. For example, there are native Nauruans that envy them.

  33. Tom

    The only possible explanation of such historical ignorance from someone with professional qualifications is the takeover of our education system by Year Zero Marxists, who have removed all references in the secondary school and university curriculums to the mass murders and genocide of communism.

  34. feelthebern

    The only possible explanation of such historical ignorance from someone with professional qualifications is the takeover of our education system by Year Zero Marxists, who have removed all references in the secondary school and university curriculums to the mass murders and genocide of communism.

    Liberty Quote right there.
    Well done Tom.

  35. Amadeus

    Having walked through and contemplated the horrors and inhumanity which occurred at Mauthausen, in North West Austria, the comments by Bauert drawing comparison between Manus/Nauru and Nazi concentration camps, merely serve to expose the utter deception and fraud of the left.
    This clown teaches our young which I find horrifying. We know that Labor and the Greens are in a battle for who can get to the gutter of politics fastest, but if this galah is in a position of influence, both those parties have already gone beyond the gutter.
    How does this galah still have a job in a teaching institution funded by the taxpayer. The Vice Chancellor has a lot of explaining to do. Sack the galah today.

  36. Woolfe

    I pointed this out to the Auschlitz twitter feed and they are silent.

  37. rtp

    You could have just stopped at the word “pediatrician”. Those people are pure scum and should all be in prison for what they are doing to our children.

    Never before in history has there been a sicker generation of kids – outside of famine or war – than the one we have right now. And it is all the fault of the disgusting doctors who poison them.

  38. lotocoti

    I gather his argument was that at some stage those “sent East” found some small mercy in the realisation that their impending death would be a sweet release from their ordeal, whereas the queue jumpers face perpetual torment without relief.
    Or something.
    Which ignores the great efforts the Krauts made to ensure those slated for death didn’t know what was happening until the Zyklon B began to do its thing.

  39. Des Deskperson

    Flinders Uni is one of the worst in Australia – currently rated 28th – and it doesn’t have the excuse of being a former TAFE or teachers college. It has always been a genuine – and dud – university, a Maoist, lay-for-a-A dump.

    Lord only knows what the Darwin campus must be like.

  40. Percy Popinjay

    Don’t forget that the stupid pompous narcissistci f*ckwit Bauert also claimed the certainty of death at Auschwitz (not to mention the unspeakable horrors the victims endured beforehand) was preferable to life on Manus or Nauru.

    He should be run out of his so called profession on a rail, placed in stocks in Martin Place and then incessantly pelted with rotten fruit and vegetables.

    And guess what? It still wouldn’t amount to even the most infinitesimal fraction of what Holocaust victims were forced to endure.

  41. RobK

    Which ignores the great efforts the Krauts made to ensure those slated for death didn’t know what was happening 
    My farther spent some two and a half years in dachau before escaping near the end of the war. He said the intent of the camps was to demoralize and de-humanize in every conceivable way. Forced labour included defusing unexploded bombs, carrying sacs of concrete mix into bunker construction sites whilst many around collapse of starvation or exhaustion only to be beaten. Mass punishment included standing in cold and snow for upto days at a time, whilst many collapsed and died in the process.
    Not an equivalent intent. Sorry.

  42. Those of you who are still trying to resist the inevitable march of the marxist socialists are making a mistake by prolonging our suffering. A bit like governments inteferring in down cycles of the economy and making things worse.
    Our one and only hope is to let them have at it so that they can let us have it good and hard for a few years.
    Once enough people get sick of the joblessness, restrictions on freedom etc, then maybe….just maybe… enough will be stirred to never ever vote for these azzholes again.

  43. thefrollickingmole

    So the time I broke a blokes fall from a tree, was injured, then stabilized his broken neck with CS fluid leaking over my hands while other officers fought back to back (about 6 vs 60) around me trying to prevent me being dragged off was just like the guards at nazi camps then?

    Wouldnt waste my spit on this dickhead.

  44. cui bono

    Dr Bauert – living definition of useful idiot

  45. lotocoti

    RobK, “sent East” was the euphemism for the extermination factories established in Poland.
    Unlike the malign neglect of the greater KZ system, their intent was industrial scale murder.
    By the Spring of 1943, something like 75% all the [REDACTED] slaughtered in the Holocaust had been “sent East”.

  46. It’s time we built a scale working model of Auschwitz that can house about 10-20 people. We can then send tossers like this tosser there for a week when they make remarks like this.

    You arrive, with family, are separated, stripped naked, beaten, shorn, tattooed, beaten, marched through the mud to an unheated hut with wooden bunks stacked 4 high. Wake up every day for role call at 5.30am, line up in the freezing cold, cop a beating from the guards before 16 hours of hard labour with the odd beating from a guard after which you will be fed a small bowl of soup and a crust of bread. Rinse and repeat for 7 days then send them home with souvenirs of their wife as a lampshade and one kid in a jar of ashes and the other in a box after a few days with Dr Mengele. Don’t forget their hair and teeth in a small souvenir bag.

    Then ask the little wankstain if he wishes to repeat his assertion that Nauru is worse than Auschwitz.

  47. RobK

    Lotocoti,
    Yes, I appreciate that. Father had a death sentence on him for resistance work as a civilian. There was an active incinerator at dachau. All the detainees knew what went on.

  48. This Green/Left mindset appears to be ubiquitous in the AMA.
    Doe the entire medical profession endorse this nonsense?
    There is an excuse for the obvious infiltration in the publication “The Lancet”.
    It has taken on the Uber Communist Christiana Figueres as a director

  49. struth

    Once enough people get sick of the joblessness, restrictions on freedom etc, then maybe….just maybe… enough will be stirred to never ever vote for these azzholes again.

    You keep coming up with this crap.
    You may vote socialism in but you will have to fight to get out.
    It’s a hell of a lot better to fight now.

  50. Overburdened

    I am unable to discuss operational issues.
    It would be interesting to know how many here putting in their 2 bobs worth have been to Nauru or Manus.
    From my own perspective, Australia should be proud of the effort to do the best in a difficult situation.
    Dr Bauer is a fuckwit.

  51. NuThink

    You never know who you will get as a doctor or nurse.

    https://www.ranker.com/list/serial-killers-who-were-doctors/ranker-crime

    The doctors who complain about Nauru should have fixed the problems in Australia first.
    Charity begins at home. I guess it is easier to fix your neighbour than your self.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/16/morrison-to-announce-royal-commission-into-aged-care-after-string-of-scandals

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/feb/28/oakden-nursing-home-inquiry-finds-staff-mismanagement-but-ministers-cleared

    Luckily for some those in charge were cleared. And that to me is a problem.

  52. Overburdened

    Myopic and full of points l think are worthy to consider.

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