Monday Forum: February 18, 2019

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  1. JC

    Botox injections not seeing much growth.

    Consumer caution about the economy is putting the brakes on customers seeking elective surgeries, which has helped fuel a boost to health insurer NIB’s profit.

    Mark Fitzgibbon, managing director of NIB, delivered a strong first half financial result on Monday but he warned that one of the triggers of its positive financial result – low claims growth – was unprecedented.

    “The last two years have been unlike anything we have seen in the last couple of decades [in claims data],” Mr Fitzgibbon said.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/nib-says-concerns-over-economy-slowing-elective-surgery/news-story/336715f87f7b18da082e61c00b2deb94

    A slower economy means more wrinkles showing. I never thought of that marker before.

  2. Tel

    I will say that Anita Board was one brave little girl.
    She should have grown up to pursue this passion as an adult.
    Allowing a child to drive a dragster at 85 km is utterly insane.

    Dora the Explorer has a lot to answer for.

    Little girls listen carefully: No you can’t do anything. You can do some things, but there’s other stuff that’s too dangerous for you. Be reasonable.

  3. Boambee John

    And just for fun

    Eureka Flag is blue and white
    Contempt for bureaucratic shite

    While commos whinge and fascists sneer
    We’ll keep Eureka flying here

  4. lotocoti

    How does anyone bother with the loon?

    It keeps him from wandering the streets, shouting at clouds.

  5. stackja

    ‘Wall Street banker’ now claiming to be political ‘expert’. Much posting by ‘expert’. Who knows really knows what?

  6. 1735099

    Surely a learned teacher, such as yourself, can discern a distinct and troubling pattern here?

    The most discernible pattern is the behaviour of the proponents.

    Both Mussolini and Mosley were populists, using fear and hate as a political strategy. The physical resemblance between Trump and Mussolini is also striking.

    Mosley is interesting. He was first a Conservative, then an independent, before joining the Labour Party from 1926 until 1932. He was interned for some of the war because of his vocal support of Fascism.
    He was a master opportunist, a bit like Pauline Hanson. Shortly after the 1958 Notting Hill race riots, he returned to Britain to stand in the 1959 general election at Kensington North . Mosley led his campaign for the UM on an anti-immigration platform, calling for forced repatriation of Caribbean immigrants (refer Hanson and Muslims) as well as a prohibition upon mixed marriages.
    He got 7.6% of the vote in 1959, and 4.6% in 1966.

  7. C.L.

    Via Instapundit: Joe Biden: An Embarrassment To America.

    One thing I noticed in the clip is the moment at 0:34 when Biden asks “can I have one with Jesse alone?” The way the Democrat congressman and his family – that is, the girl’s family – ooh and ahh at the fantasy love-match and move away to give the couple a moment is deeply sick.

  8. Makka

    STFU fatmouth. When I want your worthless opinion I’ll let you know.

  9. Eyrie

    struth, you’d have thought that after being exposed to the Americans during WW2 we’d have adopted more of their ways after the war. This place could have been lots better than it was. The Brits are class ridden shits.

  10. bespoke

    How does anyone bother with the loon?

    They will learn, JC. He is as slippery as a worm in jelly.

  11. DrBeauGan

    You’re right, too. But the point you are missing is that socialism will ALWAYS end this way. It can’t not.

    This is true. Even if you can’t see the dynamics of it, the empirical evidence is utterly compelling. But reflecting on how human nature will actually operate in a socialist world tells you that it cannot be stable and must lead to authoritarian outcomes or chaos. Or both.

  12. JC

    Okay, so just empty assertions and no reasonable evidence, Makka, you hallucinating fuckwit. It’s like a competition between you and the Cronkite as to who’s the Jussie Smollette of the Cat.

  13. Makka

    You’re a petulant idiot JC. It’s because you are such a short arse, short mans syndrome. But big mouth on the keyboard.
    Yeah, there is no reasonable evidence that Trump has any worthwhile achievements. You got me there. Lol.

  14. It’s Southpossumarse.

    Allow me to correct you. It’s Solarpanelrebate. H/t Tim Blair.

    Actually, I thought it was “Souporsaladcourse”.

    I like Soupandasarnie myself

  15. stackja

    ‘Wall Street banker’ now claiming to be political ‘expert’. Much posting by ‘expert’. Who really knows what?

  16. Johno

    Bobby numbers. How did you end up in SVN?
    So easy to avoid.Just join the CMF. Couple of Week ends a year and no conscription.
    OK so you were to thick to get that sorted out.
    When you were asked if you wanted to go to SVN you only had to say NO. Easy peasy japanezy.
    Now Bobby how did you end up in SVN?

  17. Tel

    You’re right, too. But the point you are missing is that socialism will ALWAYS end this way. It can’t not. Making everyone conform is unnatural and coercion will be required. Someone must apply that coercion and therefore you have a hierarchy. Rinse, repeat and escalate until you have totalitarianism.

    The Communist approach is very simple. We confiscate your property; now you work for the state, so do what you are told. This is better than making your own decisions because central planning is scientific and you are a dumb peasant. If you complain too loudly you will be put in a camp and probably killed.

    The [email protected] approach is subtly different. Of course you can keep your property, you should keep running your business like normal. We only expect that everyone shows loyalty to the state and supports government objectives (that’s not much to ask). You should join the local business association, they meet every week and there’s a party member there who can help you understand. This is not central planning! Oh no, it’s merely good communication of social trends and bringing the country together. In some extreme cases we might be forced (yes “forced”) to very regrettably confiscate property out of national necessity (but you don’t want that happening to you, so be a good chap and do what you are told).

    Oh did I mention? If you don’t seem sufficiently enthusiastic, you will be put in a camp and probably killed.

  18. Eyrie

    I don’t blame Numbers for being bent out of shape about being conscripted. If you can’t convince people of the righteousness of your cause that doesn’t make it right to hold a gun to their heads to turn them in to soldiers. It IS slavery. The lottery idea was even more disgusting. Get larger army on the cheap without upsetting very many voters. Either everyone goes or nobody. If they conscripted everybody they’d have easily got enough volunteers out of those. Conscription was, long term, the best thing that ever happened to the ALP. Unintended consequences.
    I figured at 16 when Menzies committed Australian troops that there didn’t seem to be a plan to win so the whole thing was a waste of time, lives and money. Of course some of the morons in high school thought it was going to be great.
    Nice kid from primary school who used to line up behind me was killed in Vietnam. Big blonde, gentle kid.
    Saw his name one Anzac day on the Mothers memorial in Toowoomba. Alan Duncuff. You are remembered, mate.

  19. Infidel Tiger

    We are not going through the Numbers thing again are we?

    He served in Vietnam and did his duty, so unlike 99% of mooching Boomers he deserves our respect for that.

    Unfortunately the rest of his life has been a bit of fizzer.

    Noe give it a rest. Any further mention of this and you will be banned.

  20. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    So easy to avoid.Just join the CMF. Couple of Week ends a year and no conscription.

    That was my understanding – if you joined the Citizens Military Forces before you were balloted, you were exempt from being called up, but you had to go on to complete six years efficient service – if your number didn’t come up, you still had to complete six years service, otherwise you were called up, number drawn or not.

  21. JC

    You’re a petulant idiot JC. It’s because you are such a short arse, short mans syndrome.

    More hallucinations.

    But big mouth on the keyboard.

    Dickhead, you posted this comment:

    Then don’t pay attention to his tweets and start paying attention to his achievements , the results. It’s not difficult. The tweets are fun and he kicks the shit our of the left with them. Which is important. But don’t be distracted by them into thinking that’s all that’s happening. That’s a dumb game.

    I asked you to provide evidence that’s not all that’s happening.

    And I get this:

    Makka
    #2937428, posted on February 18, 2019 at 5:09 pm
    STFU fatmouth. When I want your worthless opinion I’ll let you know.

    And this:

    Makka
    #2937434, posted on February 18, 2019 at 5:16 pm
    You’re a petulant idiot JC. It’s because you are such a short arse, short mans syndrome. But big mouth on the keyboard.
    Yeah, there is no reasonable evidence that Trump has any worthwhile achievements. You got me there. Lol.

    … now you’ve stuck the goal posts on a trailer and decided to move the entire thing to his “achievements”! with this.

    Yeah, there is no reasonable evidence that Trump has any worthwhile achievements. You got me there. Lol.

    So, I’m just going to take a rough guess now and suggest you don’t have even a small skerrick to help us understand your assertion.

    Well done. Again.

  22. Mark A

    Eyrie
    #2937429, posted on February 18, 2019 at 5:10 pm

    you’d have thought that after being exposed to the Americans during WW2 we’d have adopted more of their ways after the war.

    I think for a lot of people it was actually a deterrent to adopt the ‘American’ way.

    Movies and sitcoms did a better job.

  23. Johno

    Bobby Numbers.
    Not one Nasho was sent to SVN against his will. Not one.

    You thought you were going to be the big sun bronzed Anzac. Then you were shot at and it all went pear shaped. Sook.

  24. JC

    STFU Stack. Focus on your strength…. posting collisions news in Nebraska, you cheap version of 1010 Wins

  25. C.L.

    The Brits are class ridden shits.

    Twostix is very on-song when it comes to the British. I must say I despise their culture more than ever before. There is something about the hybridization of the class system with a now dominant moral leftism that has produced a deeply loathsome synthesis, perhaps best exemplified by the nation’s official luvvie class – the actors, ‘comedians’ and chat show regulars. Their appetite for royal patronage, honours, country estates and status is gargantuan, as is their ostentatiously displayed hatred for lower, status-bereft commoners. I have seen it postulated and I believe the notion that the English were once akin to the Irish in manners and mores. But that country was exterminated by ISIS-like lunatics Henry VIII and Cromwell. It was a slow and brutal attrition that extirpated Merrie Olde England; the people left to crawl from the rubble were broken forelock-tuggers whose vaunted stoicism has never been a replacement for a soul. They only exist as a nation at all because they were saved by the dashing democratic sons of America.

  26. Makka

    Then don’t pay attention to his tweets and start paying attention to his achievements , the results.

    That’s what I stated. It’s abundantly clear. The comment was always referring to his achievements, bird brain. No moving of any goal posts.

    I think you have a serious comprehension problem. Combined with your Big head and fat mouth , you seek out obtuse argument to show off your microbe sized intellect. That intellect that predicted Trump’s defeat, a global depression in Trump’s presidency, Brits will never vote to Brexit, buy AMP. Currency and market predictions based on local hamburger prices, lol.

    Fk off troll.

  27. DrBeauGan

    So easy to avoid.Just join the CMF. Couple of Week ends a year and no conscription.

    That was my understanding – if you joined the Citizens Military Forces before you were balloted, you were exempt from being called up, but you had to go on to complete six years efficient service – if your number didn’t come up, you still had to complete six years service, otherwise you were called up, number drawn or not.

    This comes down, as in Tel’s description, to the question of what duty do we owe to the state? And that can mean one of two totally different things, what do we owe to politicians, or what do we owe to our fellow citizens? These are very different. My duty to politicians is bugger all. They have a duty to me, and they don’t do it very well. My duty to my fellow citizens is to maintain the social order of justice we inherited, but some of my fellow citizens seem happy to destroy it. So I owe them only contempt.

  28. 1735099

    Leaving aside the moustached one (given he is the principle of the discussion), here’s a disturbing trend for you.

    Ben1t0 Muss0l1n1 (Head of the Bolshevik wing of the Italian Socialist Party) => Founder of Italian Fac15m.
    Oswald Mosley (Fabian and Labour politician) => Founder of the British Union of Fac15ts.

    Surely a learned teacher, such as yourself, can discern a distinct and troubling pattern here?

    The only discernible pattern is the behaviour of the proponents.
    I’ll make some comparisons with contemporary politicians.
    Mosley and our very own Pauline Hanson have behaved similarly in two aspects.
    Hanson is a serial opportunist, just as Mosley was. He was at different times, a Conservative, an Independent, and a member of the Labour party before he set up his own party post war.
    He returned to Britain after a self-imposed exile in Paris, just after the 1958 Notting Hill race riots, to stand in the 1959 general election at Kensington North. He led his campaign stridently on an anti-immigration platform, calling for forced repatriation of Caribbean immigrants as well as a prohibition upon mixed marriages. Mosley’s final share of the vote was 7.6%. Note the resemblance to Hanson, even down to the percentage of votes she earned. In her case, the targets weren’t Caribbean immigrants, but (in sequence) they varied from Indigenous people, Asians, and now Muslims.

    Mussolini can be compared with Trump. Apart from the striking physical resemblance, Madeleine Albright draws attention to the common sloganeering both used.
    In her work Fascism: A Warning, published in 2018, Albright described the rise of Benito Mussolini. She wrote that Mussolini used the phrase “drain the swamp” (drenare la palude) when he made moves to overhaul the country’s unpopular government bureaucracy.

    Hopefully, Trump won’t come to the same end as Mussolini.

  29. Makka

    They only exist as a nation at all because they were saved by the dashing democratic sons of America.

    And the Channel.

  30. Marty

    If it wasn’t for the British class ridden shits we would all be speaking German now and our politics and economy would be like some of the worst basket cases in South America.

  31. They only exist as a nation at all because they were saved by the dashing democratic sons of America.

    And Russia.
    And a cold winter.

  32. Anthony

    Why is the ‘state’ hacker being kept secret? Has it got something to do with Lawyer X? Or one who rhymes with Bell?

  33. JC

    Below isn’t a reference to his achievements. It’s about his bellyaching about his opponents.

    It’s not difficult. The tweets are fun and he kicks the shit our of the left with them. Which is important. But don’t be distracted by them into thinking that’s all that’s happening.

    ..which is why I responded with this:

    Oh okay, enlighten us on what’s happening with regard to the Wussia stitch up.

    Go!

    So far, just abuse and driving up the trailer to move the goal posts.

    Stick to kinship economics and Trades Hall labor market theory, you hallucinating clown.

  34. 1735099

    When you were asked if you wanted to go to SVN you only had to say NO. Easy peasy japanezy.
    Now Bobby how did you end up in SVN?

    I don’t want to go down the SVN track again, but this needs a response, even if it is to bust a moth-eaten myth.

  35. Arky

    Australia is a British colony.
    If you aren’t interested in being British, fuck off.

  36. Dr Faustus

    Shorten bounces straight back from the IPSOS poll shock horror:

    Bill Shorten
    @billshortenmp

    I welcome the Government’s announcement today that they will agree to my proposal for to revive the Australian Sports Medal – it is a step forward for Australian sport.

    Power and substance – the comments show that he has hit the target.

  37. If you aren’t interested in being British, fuck off.

    I say old chap, that’s rather uncouth.

  38. Makka

    So far, just abuse

    So sorry, petal.

    Go give instructions to your gardener. They won’t work here.

  39. JC

    Go give instructions to your gardener. They won’t work here.

    At Trades Hall?

  40. Overburdened

    Post #2937374 4:17 pm offering up a personal blog link and then soliciting posts from people that, based on the evidence l have noted on the times l look at this site, don’t agree with the poster.
    This demonstrates the need for relevance of someone with a pseudo messianic tendency.
    Pseudo messianic as this person isn’t on a crusade to save anyone, rather self absorbedly seeking reinforcement of their cognitive bias. This behaviour is often compensatory to cope with disappointments in other aspects of life.
    Or it may well be that this type of person is a tool.

  41. Arky

    If you aren’t interested in being British, fuck off.
    ..
    I say old chap, that’s rather uncouth.

    ..
    Sorry, sorry. Sorry everyone.
    Please fuck off.

  42. thefrollickingmole

    C.L.

    They dont call him “bad hands” Biden for nothing.

    Hes the Jimmy Saville of politics.
    The Rolf Harris of democracy.
    The John Wayne Gacey of ….

    You get the drift.

  43. Baldrick

    We are not going through the Numbers thing again are we?

    Looks like it’s full steam ahead. Sigh!

  44. Neil

    Twostix is very on-song when it comes to the British. I must say I despise their culture more than ever before.

    Two great institutions came out of England. Common law and English Parliament. I think representative govt is an English invention and they took it with them where ever they went. Here we speak English, have English common law as our legal system and English Parliament as out form of govt. They contributed lots of other stuff as well

  45. bespoke

    Martina Navratilova on trans inclusion in women’s sport: as she says, you can only erase the advantages of maleness by starting medical transition before puberty. https://t.co/ClwApEmsJX
    — Sarah Ditum (@sarahditum) February 17, 2019

    FFS!

  46. Nick

    Two great institutions came out of England. Common law and English Parliament. I think representative govt is an English invention and they took it with them where ever they went. Here we speak English, have English common law as our legal system and English Parliament as out form of govt. They contributed lots of other stuff as well

    +1

  47. 1735099

    Saw his name one Anzac day on the Mothers memorial in Toowoomba. Alan Duncuff. You are remembered, mate.

    From the Virtual War Memorial –
    5716228 Sapper Alan Leslie Duncuff, Age 21
    1st Field Squadron Royal Australian corps of Engineers (RAE) He was killed in action from a mine explosion in Phuoc Tuy Province Vietnam 25th October 1969.

    Interesting that his name is on the Mothers Memorial in Toowoomba. He was a Perth lad.
    Any ideas?
    May he rest in peace…..

  48. JC

    I think representative govt is an English invention and they took it with them where ever they went.

    Bullshit. It was the American colonies that taught the English elite a lesson in representative govt. This is still possibly one of the biggest mistakes of the last 300 years – not just for the anglo world, but the entire world.

  49. Farmer Gez

    I like my uncles take on his thirty years in the army, including three tours in Vietnam.
    “I joined the army in April”. You can guess the date.”

  50. JC

    Historically, here’s the problem going all the way with the UK. Was the American revolution justified or not?

  51. A Lurker

    Cue Monty Python: What did the Romans…sorry, British ever do for us?

  52. thefrollickingmole

    Farmer Gez

    His nickname “lucky” Uncle Gez?

  53. C.L.

    If it wasn’t for the British class ridden shits we would all be speaking German now

    Er, no.
    Britain alone was no match for Germany.

  54. Infidel Tiger

    Historically, here’s the problem going all the way with the UK. Was the American revolution justified or not?

    Certainly not.

    It was terrible act of treason.

  55. 1735099

    Or it may well be that this type of person is a tool.

    Or maybe he’s testing the comments protocol.
    You’re overthinking it…

  56. Sorry, sorry. Sorry everyone.
    Please fuck off.

    Jolly good.
    Manners maketh the man.

  57. Bruce of Newcastle

    They contributed lots of other stuff as well

    Horrible cooking. That gave Poms a strong incentive to flee to places with yummy cuisine like the Caribbean and India. Many fewer Frenchies went to the colonies. Why would you when you live in a country with food and wine like that?

    Speaking of French colonies Haiti is melting down again.

    US Urges Haiti to ‘Protect’ Democracy After Violent Protests (17 Feb)

    U.S. National Security Adviser John Bolton urged Haitian officials and politicians to “respect and protect their democracy” in a Twitter post that follows escalating unrest in the Caribbean nation.

    Bolton said he’d met on Friday with Foreign Minister Edmond Bocchit to express U.S. support for Haiti.

    The State Department issued a do-not-travel advisory on Thursday, its highest threat level, warning U.S. citizens against visiting Haiti due to “crime and civil unrest,” and announcing the evacuation of non-emergency U.S. personnel and their families from the country.

    Sad to see.

  58. Tel

    I don’t blame Numbers for being bent out of shape about being conscripted. If you can’t convince people of the righteousness of your cause that doesn’t make it right to hold a gun to their heads to turn them in to soldiers. It IS slavery. The lottery idea was even more disgusting. Get larger army on the cheap without upsetting very many voters. Either everyone goes or nobody. If they conscripted everybody they’d have easily got enough volunteers out of those. Conscription was, long term, the best thing that ever happened to the ALP. Unintended consequences.

    Agreed. It’s better to do what Singapore does where everyone must do 2 years nasho, regardless of whether there’s a war on or not. It’s important not to make exceptions for people because you don’t want the ruling class finding it convenient to send other people’s kids to war (like the way they spend other people’s money).

    I figured at 16 when Menzies committed Australian troops that there didn’t seem to be a plan to win so the whole thing was a waste of time, lives and money. Of course some of the morons in high school thought it was going to be great.

    Yeah well, you were right. It all comes down to skin in the game for decision makers.

    Whether it’s NBN or “Pink Bats” or school halls, or sending people off to war … the fundamental problem of brain-fart ideas coming from people in power without personal consequences never goes away. Other people’s money, other people’s lives.

    It would have been nice if we could have defended South Vietnam from invasion, and kept it productive like South Korea but that’s the dream, the reality was failure. If you want to know just how Bass Ackwards the whole thing was … search “OSS Deer Team: Vietnam” and check out the history where Ho Chi Minh was personally trained by the Americans via the war department called “Office of Strategic Services” which was predecessor to the CIA.

    Americans suffering blowback from government operations is nothing new.

  59. DrBeauGan

    They contributed lots of other stuff as well

    Including the industrial revolution. We have a lot to thank the British for, but they haven’t been much use to anyone, including themselves, for a while. The first world war killed half their best and brightest, and the second and its subsequent socialism almost finished them off. Now 48% of them want to be looked after by bureaucrats in Brussels.

    But we don’t have much to brag about. Over fifty percent of Australians want to be looked after by bureaucrats in Canberra.

  60. Infidel Tiger

    Two great institutions came out of England.

    Sandwiches and elevenses.

    You should never let the establishment of any country define its people. My God, we would have to kill everyone, everywhere if that were true.

  61. cohenite

    It’s like a competition between you and the Cronkite as to who’s the Jussie Smollette of the Cat.

    We’ve established you are head prefect. You do whine so well.

  62. Johno

    Bobby you wrote a letter years ago and then reference it to prove your point.Silly boy.
    Prior to embarking for SVN ALL the Nashos in my battalion were assembled in the gymn.The battalion commander was ordered off base.The nashos were then given a piece of paper with their name on it .They were asked to indicate whether they wished to go to SVN or not.
    If they wrote no they were given an escort to their barracks by two military police and they were sent to another unit.
    Three nashos left to get their gear.the rest went to SVN.
    True story.

  63. bespoke

    1735099 like your spamming you habitually post links back to your blog.

  64. Arky

    No one but an Englishman would have done as Churchill in 1940.
    There was bugger all chance of success.

  65. Makka

    Britain alone was no match for Germany.

    Perhaps not but they acquitted themselves rather well in the summer of 1940 , post Dunkirk. Staved off invasion, alone. Winning time in the hope of more favorable developments to come ie the excursion into Russia and Pearl Harbour. Survival is all about time.

  66. DrBeauGan

    JC
    #2937479, posted on February 18, 2019 at 5:58 pm
    Historically, here’s the problem going all the way with the UK. Was the American revolution justified or not?

    Yes. It was Englishmen fighting for their traditional liberties against a German king.

  67. JC

    DrBeauGan
    #2937488, posted on February 18, 2019 at 6:04 pm

    They contributed lots of other stuff as well

    Including the industrial revolution. We have a lot to thank the British for

    Doc, in my opinion the industrial revolution would have flopped by about the 1870s. From that point on the industrial revolution moved to the United States and has carried on from there since then.

  68. Nick

    Sandwiches and elevenses.

    Bacon sandwiches. Omg, the bacon!

  69. JC

    Yes. It was Englishmen fighting for their traditional liberties against a German king.

    lol, so basically the Germans have been fucking up the west since then. 🙂

  70. struth

    This is the only post worth responding to, because an actual attempt at rational argument is made, rather than abuse.

    It’s a mistake to take what any politician proclaims as truth.

    So true. It also emphasizes the great truth that when political labels are being thrown around for effect as they are here, the argument descends very quickly into absurdity, as it has here.

    See Dr BG, that’s why I picked you up on it.
    You give an arsehole communist a chance to weasel around.

    It hasn’t descended anywhere near absurdity here, in fact you, not us, were the one that said you respect what they call themselves.
    You’re the one who said you respect what they call themselves.
    Now you are trying to say you didn’t?
    Own it sunshine.

    Was Hitler a socialist? He said he was, and if socialism is controlling the economy, then he was as much of one as Lenin and Stalin. If socialism is about treating everybody fairly, then none of them were.

    That is also true. It raises another very important point, which is that how a philosophy is operationalized is as important as what it is called.

    No, you don’t get to sneak back in talking shit.
    If Hitler is right wing because there was still private ownership then your European countries aren’t socialist either.
    Your rules, shitfa brains, not mine.

    They all promised a wonderful utopia, and then screwed the suckers who bought the story

    It’s called lying.

    You could say exactly the same thing about capitalism, which has also screwed people royally from time to time. Ask the victims of the GFC and the recent banking scandal about that.

    That wasn’t capitalism.
    People screw themselves in capitalism.
    Capitalism has brought billions of people out of poverty.
    It’s the only system that has.
    You spot a crack in the armour and try this shit.

    No he didn’t admit to capitalism causing harm, don’t say it as if he’d agree.

    The Greens are trying something similar now. Who doesn’t want to have a nice, natural environment? The question for adults is, can you believe that’s what you’re going to get if you vote for them?

    That’s a different question, and why Trump is so dangerous because he lies all the time.

    TDS

    Promising a wonderful world if you vote for them, and a hellish one if you don’t, is what politicians do.

    Exactly. Look at what’s happening now pre-election in this country.

    What’s that got to do with it?
    Election don’t even happen in your communist utopia.
    Don’t equate Australia with your murderous shitholes.
    It may be slowly taken over by socialist shit, but we’re not done yet, and where things are bad here, it’s precisely because of socialist lefties getting their way.

    Only the naïve and credulous believe them. The buggers are in it for themselves. Lying comes easy to the entire political class. That includes the pretence that we have a real choice about who screws us over.

    There’s a lot of “naïve and credulous” people posting here. They simply line up on one end of the political spectrum, and shout abuse at everyone on the other end. It has a funny side. I’ve been called “communist” non-stop on this blog, a source of constant amusement to those who actually know me. This blog is in that sense an alternative reality.

    You’ve called yourself a commo, a socialist (same thing) and spewed anti western, traitorous vile shit all over this blog, so don’t come this holier than thou, above it all , shit here, fuck head.
    Your the lowest thing posting here, and I’ll call you on it all the time.
    If I could get hold of any communist, not just you, there’d be hell to pay.
    You are an enemy of my civilisation.

    I so expected you to wait for a chink and then weasel bullshit.
    It didn’t work idiot.

    You’ve called Hitler a socialist, you respect what they call themselves.
    That’s what you’ve done today.

    You’ve changed positions just to keep talking.
    You’ve been unable to answer questions and when you have you’ve contradicted yourself.
    And you used the old commo tactic of waiting for somebody to say something a bit wishy washy you could pounce on to play the “reasonable” type.

    Pathetic, low life, scum.

  71. bespoke

    The real Brits left and built the empire.

  72. Neil

    Er, no.
    Britain alone was no match for Germany.

    So what? 40 million Brits up against 90 million Germans/Austrians, 40 million Italians plus others. And then Western Europe working for the germans in factories

    I am surprised they lasted as long as they did

  73. Marty

    Er, no.
    Britain alone was no match for Germany.

    I was thinking of WW1. What would have happened to Australia had Germany prevailed?

  74. Black Ball

    Frollickingmole, I saw an interview between Chris Wallace and Rush Limbaugh. Limbaugh suggested that the frontrunner for the Democrats in 2020 was Joe Biden. I think this interview was over the weekend. If this is the case, then the embedded video above of Creepy Joe needs to be on President Trump’s loop. Trump has no shortage of material, with every perceived Democrat contender seemingly shooting themselves in both feet before insertion into thine mouths. Ask struth rightfully opines, hold these frauds to their own account. Keep asking AOC about her green dream. See her splutter. Ask Fauxcohontas about her Harvard admission. Ask Kamala Harris about her boss. Same can be applied here. Ask Shorten about his allegations at Labor Camp. Grill Plibersek on her husband. So much material yet the right do not use it.

  75. Confused Old Misfit

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    If you agree with this argument then, considering the reaction of the government of Great Britain at that time, the American Revolution was justified.
    Nevertheless, it is also true that many did not agree with this argument.
    Among these were my ancestors.
    I may never forgive them.

  76. DrBeauGan

    Doc, in my opinion the industrial revolution would have flopped by about the 1870s. From that point on the industrial revolution moved to the United States and has carried on from there since then.

    It was Maxwell and Faraday in the main who contributed electricity. A scot and an English man. Funding by sir Humphrey Davey, who was Welsh. Sort of.

    The US was founded by the British and still has a common law. The founding fathers were Englishmen. Sure they did good things. They weren’t tied down under a German king and a French aristocracy.

  77. bespoke

    ’ve been called “communist” non-stop on this blog, a source of constant amusement to those who actually know me.

    I can think plenty of alternatives but this isn’t that kind of blog.

  78. JC

    The real Brits left and built the empire.

    Which Brits though? Albion’s Seed argues there were around four different ethnic groups shifting camp to the US.
    1. The Communist Puritans
    2. The ever-forgiving Quakers
    3. The Indian fighting Scots Irish… Borderers.
    4. The Virginia based aristocracy.

    Which ones, as they were quite different? The communist Puritans are least likeable.

  79. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #2937408, posted on February 18, 2019 at 4:51 pm

    Peter Dutton replying on Twitter:

    @barriecassidy you stopped working for the ALP years ago so drop the partisan rant. You work for the @InsidersABC now so please stick to the facts which are largely absent in your diatribe.

    How very Trumpian…..this is good….very good. We need more of this from the Liberals. Don’t turn the other cheek.

  80. Farmer Gez

    Farmer Gez

    His nickname “lucky” Uncle Gez?

    You would think so. A Warrant Officer.
    Trained Nashos and regulars between stints OS.
    He used to line us kids up at Christmas, put on his full Sargeant Major voice and march us around.
    “Shoulders back, chin up, eye forward, you little grubs.”
    We loved it.

  81. thefrollickingmole

    Horrible cooking. That gave Poms a strong incentive to flee to places with yummy cuisine like the Caribbean and India.

    But boiling things gives them such a lovely delicate flavor.

    Tel
    In one of a million “what ifs” the bloke who would almost certainly kept the US out of the war in Vietnam was killed by a VC roadblock.
    The first American death in the war over Ho Chi Minh’s country occurred in 1945, when A. Peter Dewey, a lieutenant colonel mistaken for a French officer, was killed by Viet Minh forces. Dewey had already decided, and recommended to the Pentagon, that the US “clear out of Southeast Asia.”

    (As senior OSS bloke there he should have had enough clout to have derailed the eventual war.

    However there is also the problem, would the domino theory have meant there would have been “Hotter” wars elsewhere as the support given to Vietnam by the Communist block would have been available elsewhere.

  82. bespoke

    Not every one went to the US, JC.

  83. JC

    bespoke
    #2937501, posted on February 18, 2019 at 6:12 pm

    The real Brits left and built the empire.

    You mean the US? The US was the greatest gift the UK gave the world.

  84. zyconoclast

    Seriously, WTF?
    Anita Board died in Perth junior dragster crash two days after becoming old enough to compete.

    An eight-year-old girl was driving at more than 85 kilometres per hour in her junior dragster, and continued past the finish line without slowing significantly, when she crashed into a concrete barrier, a Perth coronial inquest into her death has been told.

    She died doing something her father loved.
    Tragically, he loved it more than he loved his daughter.
    RIP

  85. Makka

    Not every one went to the US, JC

    You mean India , Africa and HK?

  86. 1735099

    Bobby you wrote a letter years ago and then reference it to prove your point.Silly boy.

    You have reading comprehension problems.
    The Anzac Day Commemoration Committee removed the reference on their website to the myth “Every Nasho that served in Vietnam was a volunteer” after I nagged them about it for about three years because I refused to see history rewritten on a website used extensively by schools. As a teacher, I can tell the difference between education and indoctrination.
    This followed research I had done reading CO’s Diaries on the AWM website, that indicated no such parades were recorded, and the fact that no Nasho in my unit had any memory of such a practice.
    The definitive debunking of this bullshit is Mark Dapin’s Vietnam, the Nashos War.
    Here is the text of the email they sent on 6th August 2018-

    Dear Mr ******

    Further to my correspondence of 26 July, I wish to advise that the statement on our website concerning the “generally voluntary” nature of the service by National Servicemen in Vietnam has been removed. After further consultation and research I concluded that the evidence presented by Mark Dapin in his book on Vietnam appears to be the most definitive presented on the subject and that the statements presented on our website appear to be erroneous – certainly in the experience of most Nashos.

    Again, I apologise for any unintended offence or umbrage our website may have caused you or others. I appreciate you communicating your concern.

    Sincerely

    Colonel David Smith AM (Retd)
    Hon President
    ADCC (Qld)

  87. calli

    I love they way Seven is framing the Smollett scandal.

    “The actor who staged a hate crime with himself as the victim”

    Seriously?

    Smollett wasn’t the “victim”. He was the perpetrator. The victim is the reputations of thousands upon thousands of conservatives and Trump supporters. The “hate crime” was racially motivated and against whites.

    This guy is scum.

  88. DrBeauGan

    The French aristocracy being where the social class consciousness came from. The seppos sensibly avoided that.

  89. Bruce of Newcastle

    I was thinking of WW1. What would have happened to Australia had Germany prevailed?

    Probably have to cede the rest of PNG to the Kaiser.
    History since suggests that might not’ve been a bad thing.

  90. JC

    bespoke
    #2937513, posted on February 18, 2019 at 6:20 pm

    Not every one went to the US, JC.

    The US absorbed some of the best. The Borderers were the one group that opened America up to opportunity. It’s a remarkable group and 30% of the US population derive their origins from these absolute lunatics. In fact, you could argue that at the margin Trump was elected by this group.

  91. Makka

    Numbers;

    As a teacher, I can tell the difference between education and indoctrination.

    Lol. I just bet you can, Karl.

  92. DrBeauGan

    You mean the US? The US was the greatest gift the UK gave the world.

    Yes. But there were plenty of other gifts.

  93. Gab

    This is soooo boring, rehashing all the old arguments from about 3 or 4 years ago with numbers.

  94. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I was thinking of WW1. What would have happened to Australia had Germany prevailed?

    The archives of Kaiser Wilhelm’s Germany have been opened to researchers since the mid 1960’s. Germany wanted an overseas colonial empire similar to Great Britain’s. (Britain would have been stripped of her colonies, had the Royal Navy dismantled and reduced to the rank of a third rate power.) There may not have been an actual occupation of Australia, but Australia would not have been immune from the consequences of a German victory.

  95. Black Ball

    “The actor who staged a hate crime with himself as the victim.”

    The key word being staged. The whole production is laughable. One I wouldn’t think stage themselves as a perpetrator, goes against the anti Trump narrative.

  96. calli

    It’s Attention Trolling.

    What a waste of a life.

  97. I have never been to Vietnam but I guess I can make up for it by reading the constant references to it on this blog.

  98. Infidel Tiger

    You mean the US? The US was the greatest gift the UK gave the world.

    Better than a cheddar cheese and pickle sandwich?

    Don’t think so.

  99. JC

    Look at the Rooster…. joining in another pile on. It makes him feel relevant.

  100. struth

    Boo hoo, Victim Bob.
    No one gives a shit.
    Ancient history.
    Go feed the ducks.
    You selfish fuck.

    You make Monty look well, just thick, not evil at all

  101. Makka

    Maybe they know something. Like FlimFlam buying property on the water;

    Australia’s biggest companies are ignoring calls from regulators and investors to do more to mitigate the risks of climate change, with a new study finding that many of the nation’s top 100 companies still do not identify climate change as a material business risk.

  102. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Pervert alert.
    @RepWeiner
    is back on twitter. All girls under the age of 18, block him immediately.
    4:32 AM · Nov 8, 2012

  103. calli

    One positive thing to take from it though.

    Freedom is attractive. It’s a flame to the moths, even the trolly variety. Things that wouldn’t be tolerated on any other platform are tolerated here because the love of liberty.

    And so they come. They can’t keep away, even as they tell themselves that they are “correcting” the commentary. Good luck with that once the brave new socialist order is fully established.

  104. Stimpson J. Cat

    anyone got any tips for psychometric testing???

    Is that when you hit someone with a ruler until they tell you to stop?

  105. bespoke

    Makka
    #2937516, posted on February 18, 2019 at 6:22 pm
    Not every one went to the US, JC
    You mean India , Africa and HK?

    Yes

  106. Tel

    I was thinking of WW1. What would have happened to Australia had Germany prevailed?

    Nothing. The WWI Germans would have pwned France but stopped at the Channel. At the time the British Navy was still far superior to anything the Germans had, and a handful of first generation u-boats cannot do much.

  107. Stimpson J. Cat

    anyone got any tips for psychometric testing???

    Is that when you hit someone with a ruler until they t€ll you to stop?

  108. calli

    I imagine PNG would have been lost. We would have Germany at our northern border.

    Lederhosen replacing arsegrass.

  109. Makka

    Yes

    bespoke,
    I think you can see that JC wants the conversation to stay focused on shit he thinks he know ie the US. He can’t get any attention if it detours off into the remaining 95% of the world.

  110. cohenite

    I was thinking of WW1. What would have happened to Australia had Germany prevailed?

    Alternate histories are fun. The Summer Isles by Ian R. MacLeod details what would have happened if Germany had won WW1. England becomes the fascist country and although Australia isn’t mentioned in detail it’s likely it would have followed.

  111. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Knox teacher disciplined over ‘distressing’ lesson

    Elias Visontay
    Reporter
    @EliasVisontay
    23 minutes ago February 18, 2019
    1 Comment

    One of Sydney’s most prestigious schools has cautioned a Year 4 teacher over a “very distressing” lesson on indigenous history.

    While giving a drama lesson at Knox Grammar School on Sydney’s upper north shore last Monday, a teacher asked the nine-year-olds students to draw a representation of their family or heritage. After collecting the children’s work, the teacher tore up the drawings in front of the class.

    The teacher then reportedly told the children the way they were now feeling was similar to how indigenous Australians felt when everything was taken from them.

    A spokesman for Knox said the school did not support the teacher’s actions. “The school can confirm that the activity took place with a Year 4 class last week,” he said. “When the school became aware of the matter, it was immediately investigated. The teacher was extensively counselled and disciplined. The teacher has apologised to the students.

    “While the school strongly supports the teaching of indigenous culture and heritage, we believe it needs to be taught in a sensitive and appropriate manner.”

    From the Oz. You couldn’t make this bullshit up, could you?

  112. cohenite

    the teacher tore up the drawings in front of the class.

    Teachers and the grubs of the media are the storm troopers of the green left.

  113. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2937547, posted on February 18, 2019 at 6:39 pm
    This is the stupidest f$cking thing I have ever seen.
    Goddamn Amazon and their robots.

    Oh, Stimpy, it’s so cute!

  114. Tel

    The Anzac Day Commemoration Committee removed the reference on their website to the myth “Every Nasho that served in Vietnam was a volunteer” after I nagged them about it for about three years because I refused to see history rewritten on a website used extensively by schools. As a teacher, I can tell the difference between education and indoctrination.

    Good work preserving history.

    There’s a lot more of that work to do, I can link to various ABC pages where they have dreadfully mangled Russian history.

  115. Cassie of Sydney

    “The teacher was extensively counselled and disciplined. The teacher has apologised to the students”

    Parents should insist that the teacher is sacked.

  116. RobK

    Goddamn Amazon and their robots.
    Now, if it dispensed cold beer, around knock-off time in industrial parks, they might be onto something

  117. struth

    One positive thing to take from it though.

    Freedom is attractive. It’s a flame to the moths, even the trolly variety. Things that wouldn’t be tolerated on any other platform are tolerated here because the love of liberty.

    And so they come. They can’t keep away, even as they tell themselves that they are “correcting” the commentary. Good luck with that once the brave new socialist order is fully established.

    This is why I feel one of the conversations here that would be interesting is the banning of Socialism and communism in our country.
    When reading our constitution, it is basically unconstitutional, and undemocratic.

    This is the whole conservative/libertarian argument.
    I’m sure libertarians are right behind no banning where conservatives would see it as a defensive measure against the natural enemies of freedom.
    It’s much along the same grounds as banning mussie immigration or not.
    That’s the sort of arguments we need to be having.

    You don’t let people use a system to gain power so that they change the system (democracy) and as someone quite rightly pointed out here, you can vote socialism in, but you have to fight your way out.
    Meaning it is not compatible with our constitution or culture.

  118. Dr Fred Lenin

    I once met a guy who had French /_English dual nationality ,this was when noth countries had two year National Service as he was eligible for either army I asked which one he chose,”ze French of course ze food is bettair”, he was by the way a Chef trained in a Guide Michelin two star retuarant,and a bloody good cook , ,the French put him strsight into the officers kitchen The British woukd have put him into the Pioneer Corps digging holes .

  119. Boambee John

    Marty
    #2937503, posted on February 18, 2019 at 6:13 pm
    Er, no.
    Britain alone was no match for Germany.

    I was thinking of WW1. What would have happened to Australia had Germany prevailed

    That was an era in which the winners took colonies from the losers, and Germany, a late comer to getting colonies, wanted a bigger empire.

    At an absolute minimum Papua would have become a German colony. Given the limited non-aboriginal population in the north, much of Australia north of a line roughly from Geraldton to Cairns, possibly Townsville, might also have.

    OTOH, in 1941 there might have been a couple of million German colonists between us and the Japanese, H1tler would have been an obscure ex-soldier but proud of the Fatherland, and Russia might not have received Lenin back from exile.

  120. Nick

    Lots of disagreements as to various opinions and no one has flounced off ?
    Good.

  121. DrBeauGan

    the teacher tore up the drawings in front of the class.

    Teachers and the grubs of the media are the storm troopers of the green left.

    A valuable lesson for the kids. Your teacher may be a repulsive lunatic.

    Worth knowing.

  122. JC

    He can’t get any attention if it detours off into the remaining 95% of the world.

    Makka doesn’t like the US because prescribed wages don’t meet Trades Hall levels of what is considered kinship wage levels.

  123. Tel

    Knox teacher disciplined over ‘distressing’ lesson

    From the Oz. You couldn’t make this bullshit up, could you?

    Did anyone ask that teacher whether she can tell the difference between education and indoctrination?

  124. struth

    While giving a drama lesson at Knox Grammar School on Sydney’s upper north shore last Monday, a teacher asked the nine-year-olds students to draw a representation of their family or heritage. After collecting the children’s work, the teacher tore up the drawings in front of the class.

    The teacher then reportedly told the children the way they were now feeling was similar to how indigenous Australians felt when everything was taken from them.

    This is the sort of shit numbers was involved in.
    Of course a socialist gets to be a principle in our indoctrination centres.

    Sick fucks.

  125. bespoke

    Nick
    #2937560, posted on February 18, 2019 at 6:46 pm
    Lots of disagreements as to various opinions and no one has flounced off ?
    Good.

    Shh! lurkers.

  126. calli

    You don’t let people use a system to gain power

    Agreed. But they have a voice, however shrill and silly and desperate.

    This is why freedom is always on a knife’s edge. Just keep the knife nice and sharp.

    And now…why does that remind me of The Long Ships? Watch your step or you’ll be riding the mare of steel. 😃

  127. cohenite

    Nicholas Reece is such a fucking dickhead praising the climate youth coalition on Credlin. He thinks it’s wonderful that kids are indoctrinated: the kids are the future and they are protecting theirs by wagging school and regurgitating alarmist slogans he says. Fuck me the only consolation will be the squeals of fear and anger when the power runs out for these bastards.

  128. Tel

    cohenite #2937568,
    Is there one person on Earth who believes that the kids came up with that all by themselves?

  129. DrBeauGan

    Did anyone ask that teacher whether she can tell the difference between education and indoctrination?

    From the teacher’s point of view, she was dramatising the wickedness of colonialism. An important lesson. Unfortunately she has no idea of the alternatives.

    One of the better gifts to the world in general and aborigines in particular, was Australia. Lefties are doing everything in their power to fuck it up, but on balance it still beats the alternatives by a country light year.

  130. JC

    He thinks it’s wonderful that kids are indoctrinated: the kids are the future and they are protecting theirs by wagging school and regurgitating alarmist slogans he says. Fuck me the only consolation will be the squeals of fear and anger when the power runs out for these bastards.

    I really hate to bring this up, Cronkers. The only way YOU could justify any criticism of Reece is purely on tribal grounds. That’s because you posted what essentially were hoax stats only a few hours ago. In other words you have no ethical claim to argue against Reece’s brainwashing attempt when you’ve were doing the same thing. This is why I detest lies and crap from the Right. The moment one starts doing that and others don’t repudiate it we’re no better than the left. Moreover, there’s just no need for it on the right as the left are rich pickings.

  131. Empire 5:5

    Arky
    #2937463, posted on February 18, 2019 at 5:44 pm
    Australia is a British colony.
    If you aren’t interested in being British, fuck off.

    Was.

    back to Britain.

  132. Lysander

    To posters above: Completely agree with your sentiments on psychometric testing…. hey! I don’t want to do it because I know its BS, but have to.. it’s for literacy, numeracy, problem solving aptitude and behaviour. I’m good on all of those except for the last one 😛

  133. 1735099

    Of course a socialist gets to be a principle (sic) in our indoctrination centres

    Better get a refund on your school fees, old mate.
    It’s “principal”, not “principle”.

    Cheers

  134. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    From the teacher’s point of view, she was dramatising the wickedness of colonialism. An important lesson

    To nine year old children?

  135. Grigory M

    This is soooo boring, rehashing all the old arguments from about 3 or 4 years ago with numbers.

    Indeed it is. But there are those here who persist in trying to push their own childish agendas on it.

    Mater (special subject Karl Marx), struth (special subject puerile ad-homs), Bespoke (little knowledge of anything in particular), Johno (yet to provide evidence of any service), Calli and Beaugan (effusive in praise of yet to be verified “service” by “Johno”).

    At the time of, and a number of times subsequent to, the mid-2014 exchange of letters between 1735099 and Brian of Moorabbin I recall that Sinclair entreated Cats to contain themselves to proper discourse with the former rather than just engage in fruitless invective. It’s about time his advice was heeded by those present here yesterday and today.

  136. Cassie of Sydney

    “cohenite
    #2937568, posted on February 18, 2019 at 6:52 pm
    Nicholas Reece is such a fucking dickhead praising the climate youth coalition on Credlin. He thinks it’s wonderful that kids are indoctrinated: the kids are the future and they are protecting theirs by wagging school and regurgitating alarmist slogans he says. Fuck me the only consolation will be the squeals of fear and anger when the power runs out for these bastards.”

    Yep, my thoughts too…just watched the segment….Reece is a moron and that is still too complimentary. Any fool should know that the political indoctrination of kids and the use of kids to promote political ideology is straight out of Nazi and Marxist textbooks. In fact I can’t wait for the power to run out, for the air-conditioning to stop, for the supermarket shelves to empty, for the re-education camps to open…these kids won’t survive five minutes.

  137. bespoke

    Is there one person on Earth who believes that the kids came up with that all by themselves?

    Numbers, according to him they are to independent. I suspect that’s why he chose a more captive audience.

  138. MatrixTransform

    because an actual attempt at rational argument is made, rather than abuse

    seriously?

    Do I really have to trawl back through every NumbNuts entry into the forum?

    … more holes that the Shower Screen from Psycho

    (see what I did there?)

  139. Nick

    From the teacher’s point of view, she was dramatising the wickedness of colonialism.

    From the comfort of an air conditioned classroom. Perhaps the teacher would prefer to teach actual indigenous students. Didn’t think so.

  140. Geriatric Mayfly

    Nicholas Reece is such a fucking dickhead praising the climate youth coalition on Credlin. He thinks it’s wonderful that kids are indoctrinated:

    So do I. The warmunists, young and old, are right after all. The recent Dreadful Heat™ has buggered my rose bushes. Leaves desiccated, brown and very dead. My water bill will attest that they were not subject to any abuse or cruelty. Global warming dunnit.

  141. Pedro the Ignorant

    Lithium bugs, some news.

    US miner Albermarle, part owners of WA’s Greenbushes lithium mine, are investing A$1.3 Billion in a downstream lithium hydroxide processing plant in Bunbury WA, construction started.

    Capacity to ship 60,000 tonnes p.a. by 2025.

    Most will go to China, as the wiley orientals own 51% of both the Greenbushes project and Albermarle.

  142. cohenite

    Is there one person on Earth who believes that the kids came up with that all by themselves?

    Reece apparently does. He wouldn’t have a bar of the fact that this climate youth coalition was brainwashing the little sprogs but insisted it was merely giving guidance to a spontaneous and righteous indignation about climate change.

    The left realise the young are dangerous and are cultivating them; just look at the Lord of the Flies and there is a S-F novelette where aliens conquer the Earth by simply killing all adults.

  143. Arky

    Knowing how to correctly spell “Principal” takes no effort when you were one.
    It was written on your door for fucks sake.

  144. DrBeauGan

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2937579, posted on February 18, 2019 at 7:00 pm
    From the teacher’s point of view, she was dramatising the wickedness of colonialism. An important lesson

    To nine year old children?

    She was obviously indoctrinated herself instead of being educated. Seen from her point of view, the earlier you start the better.

    Cassie is right to want her sacked. People like that have no place in an educational institution.

  145. Arky

    It takes no effort to know how to spell “Principal” when you were one.

  146. cohenite

    The only way YOU could justify any criticism of Reece is purely on tribal grounds.

    That’s a lie head prefect. Anything I say about reece is justified at the very least on the fact I’m better looking than that little girly man. I’m surprised you didn’t realise that but I guess your girdle is too tight and is blocking the blood to what passes as your brain. Incidentally I’m still waiting for that thrashing from you.

  147. struth

    Better get a refund on your school fees, old mate.
    It’s “principal”, not “principle”.

    Cheers

    I make spelling mistakes all the time as I do this quickly.
    I don’t remember handing it in to a traitor for marking.
    The great thing is , you’re neither a principal or a principled principal ( you never have been) anymore, and with one foot in the grave, you may be full of yourself and the fact that a small part of your life you had to peel spuds a s a nasho while the rest of your life parasitical lived off other people’s taxes while indoctrinating their children with pure evil.

    Can you feel that pain in the chest?
    If you can’t , you will soon.

    Best repent on one of your hypocritical visits to church of Christians, while you actually follow the religion of government.

  148. Pedro the Ignorant

    For the gold bugs.

    Spot price of gold hit $A1852 per oz today.

    20+ year high.

    20 year chart in Australian Dollars.

  149. zyconoclast

    The teacher then reportedly told the children the way they were now feeling was similar to how indigenous Australians felt when everything was taken from them.

    A spokesman for Knox said the school did not support the teacher’s actions. “The school can confirm that the activity took place with a Year 4 class last week,” he said. “When the school became aware of the matter, it was immediately investigated. The teacher was extensively counselled and disciplined. The teacher has apologised to the students.

    “While the school strongly supports the teaching of indigenous culture and heritage, we believe it needs to be taught in a sensitive and appropriate manner.”

    If the teacher had just molested the children rather than upset them, Knox would be cool with that.

    Child s3x abuse royal commission: Knox Grammar headmaster ‘failed to prioritise welfare of boys’

    The sickening school abuse that left even tough police in tears

    Case Study 23: Knox Grammar School

  150. struth

    Better get a refund on your school fees, old mate.
    It’s “principal”, not “principle”.

    Cheers

    I make sp-elling mistakes all the time as I do this quickly.
    I don’t remember handing it in to a traitor for marking.
    The great thing is , you’re neither a principal or a principled principal ( you never have been) anymore, and with one foot in the grave, you may be full of yourself and the fact that a small part of your life you had to peel spuds a s a nasho while the rest of your life parasitical lived off other people’s taxes while indoctrinating their children with pure evil.

    Can you feel that pain in the chest?
    If you can’t , you will soon.

    Best repent on one of your hypocritical visits to church of Christians, while you actually follow the religion of government.

  151. Arky

    I saw the best posts of my generation destroyed by moderation.

  152. DrBeauGan

    From the comfort of an air conditioned classroom. Perhaps the teacher would prefer to teach actual indigenous students. Didn’t think so.

    Thank God she wasn’t. She’d be telling them how oppressed they were, and some of the poor dabs might have believed her.

    I suppose hanging her is out of the question?

  153. Tel

    Cassie is right to want her sacked. People like that have no place in an educational institution.

    Drama teacher, nuff said. Get rid of the entire subject and focus the kids on more useful topics.

    Shakespeare is ok … but astoundingly overrated and if the kids want that, they can see a real play, or read the book.

  154. woolfe

    Pedro,
    I’m sure the lithium will be sold at market rates to ensure no profit is made?

  155. cohenite

    I saw the best posts of my generation destroyed by moderation.

    If you put your heart and soul into it save it before you post.

  156. Pedro the Ignorant

    I’m sure the lithium will be sold at market rates to ensure no profit is made?

    Of course. Nobody invests that sort of money merely to make a profit. 🙂

  157. struth

    From the teacher’s point of view, she was dramatising the wickedness of colonialism. An important lesson.

    You’re being a bit wishy washy today, Dr B.

    What wickedness of colonialism?
    The aboriginals suffer now under socialism, not because of colonialism.

    The kids that young should not know anything about that other than to celebrate the forming of one of the greatest countries in the world, part of the western anglosphere, and be joyous they are here, like so many others who want to get here in their millions.

  158. Lysander

    I saw the best posts of my generation destroyed by moderation.

    Is that you Keith Moon?

  159. JC

    That’s a lie head prefect. Anything I say about reece is justified at the very least on the fact I’m better looking than that little girly man. I’m surprised you didn’t realise that but I guess your girdle is too tight and is blocking the blood to what passes as your brain. Incidentally I’m still waiting for that thrashing from you.

    Okay, Jussie.

  160. bespoke

    Thank God she wasn’t. She’d be telling them how oppressed they were, and some of the poor dabs might have believed her.

    Palestine education model exported to the west.

  161. Tel

    Spot price of gold hit $A1852 per oz today.

    That’s weak AUD not strong gold.

    Australian interest rates are slowly collapsing, while US rates are climbing. There’s talk of more interest rate cuts by the RBA but as far as I can tell it’s still merely talk at this stage. The consequence is that AUD doesn’t look so great as a store of value.

  162. Arky

    Struth.
    Check your e-mail.
    Unless you are ignoring me. If so: carry on.

  163. Confused Old Misfit

    The teacher then reportedly told the children the way they were now feeling was similar to how indigenous Australians felt when everything was taken from them.

    Yeah! 60,000 years of wandering in the wilderness trying to figure out how to boil water gone!
    Up the spout!
    These ugly white buggers come along with iron pots ‘n stuff!
    Who wud have thunk ot?

  164. 2dogs

    the banning of Socialism and communism in our country

    Banning them is unnecessary. You just need to give those who support those ideas autonomy over their own affairs. Starvation will teach them the error of their ways.

  165. RobK

    I saw the best posts of my generation destroyed by moderation.
    Post trauma & distress?

  166. Makka

    That’s weak AUD not strong gold.

    Gold is strengthening as well as AUD weakness. And AUD has a long way to go yet, down.

  167. 1735099

    Morrison squibs it.
    He lets the RC into treatment of people with disabilities go through because he doesn’t want the embarrassment of losing another vote on the floor of the house, (after three years of pushing from advocates) and then shoves it on the shelf because he’s scared of what it might reveal.

  168. JC

    Australian interest rates are slowly collapsing, while US rates are climbing.

    US bond yields have screamed lower since the October low.

  169. DrBeauGan

    Drama teacher, nuff said. Get rid of the entire subject and focus the kids on more useful topics.

    Shakespeare is ok … but astoundingly overrated and if the kids want that, they can see a real play, or read the book.

    It’s reasonable for kids doing English at a higher level to meet drama, but you don’t learn it, you experience it, and kids get loads of it from telly. Crime shows and soapies. Shakespeare was just the precursor to them.

    Aborigines had dances but not much like English and European drama. So where do they come into a drama lesson? The stupid cow was just peddling anti-western propaganda. I’d have her hanged for treason.

  170. calli

    She’d be telling them how oppressed they were, and some of the poor dabs might have believed her.

    I doubt it. More likely she’d be staring at a stony faced class of a few ragged, uninterested, FAS waifs while all the rest were out doing what they do.

    A room of well disciplined little boater boys is a much easier, richer lode to mine for misplaced guilt.

  171. JC

    Gold is strengthening as well as AUD weakness. And AUD has a long way to go yet, down.

    This sounds like your brilliant bond call early last year. Remember? Let me remind you.

    Remember your famous call last year how the bond market was going to rupture as a result of higher inflation and that we had peaked bond prices…and you were scornful of any deviation because you wanted everyone to believe in your reality show? Recall that hallucination?

    Has that crumbling call working out, Uncle George?

    Go buy a clown outfit.

  172. cohenite

    Even by your low standards head prefect that was weak. Don’t start unless you can maintain some sort of standard.

  173. MatrixTransform

    20+ year high.

    heheh

  174. struth

    No I didn’t check my email today.
    bugger.
    Now I have.

  175. thefrollickingmole

    Get the brass balls on these shitheads.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/18/i-believe-putin-trump-dismissed-us-advice-on-north-korea-threat-says-mccabe

    McCabe also told 60 Minutes the FBI had good reason to open a counter-intelligence investigation into whether Trump was in league with Russia, and therefore a possible national security threat, following Comey’s dismissal in May 2017.

    “And the idea is, if the president committed obstruction of justice, fired the director of the of the FBI to negatively impact or to shut down our investigation of Russia’s malign activity and possibly in support of his campaign, as a counterintelligence investigator you have to ask yourself, ‘Why would a president of the United States do that?’” McCabe said.

    At a wild guess he was firing people so stupid as to believe the pee-pee/poo-poo dossier brought and paid for by Clintons campaign as the bedrock and ONLY evidence they had of any sort of Russian collusion.

    He added: “So all those same sorts of facts cause us to wonder is there an inappropriate relationship, a connection between this president and our most fearsome enemy, the government of Russia?”

    Asked whether deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein was onboard with the obstruction and counterintelligence investigations, McCabe replied: “Absolutely.”

    Swamp things gunna swamp…

    Also as a reminder..
    Andrew McCabe says officials discussed removing Trump after Comey firing
    Ex-acting FBI director said there were meetings to discuss whether president could be removed under 25th amendment

    Bad people.
    The worst.

  176. Boambee John

    Compare the pair.

    Numbers

    I refused to see history rewritten on a website used extensively by schools. As a teacher, I can tell the difference between education and indoctrination.

    Knox Grammar

    “While the school strongly supports the teaching of indigenous culture and heritage, we believe it needs to be taught in a sensitive and appropriate manner.”

    How’s that “Black Armband” history going? Seems pretty entrenched.

    Indoctrination indeed,

  177. Pedro the Ignorant

    Pedro any sign of Rea?

    Dunno what that is.

    I will have look in the beer fridge.

  178. JC

    Even by your low standards head prefect that was weak.

    Oh yea.

    Cronkite’s hoax:

    1 40% of all workers in LA County (102 million people) are working for cash; and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

    2. 95 % of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

    3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

    4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

    5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals; they are here illegally.

    6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

    7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

    8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

    9. 21 radio stations in LA are Spanish-speaking.

    10. In LA County, 5.1 million people speak English; 3.9 million, speak Spanish. (There are 10.2 million people, in LA County.

    Over 70% of the United States’ annual population growth, ( and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York), results from immigration.

    Also, 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

  179. struth

    40 000 years of “history” yet nothing to write about.
    40 000 years of existing, but history nah, that’s pushing it.
    And who knows if that’s even true.

    Very flimsy evidence and the peoples of the mountains in Indonesia have been there longer.
    So…………………………yawn.

  180. Empire 5:5

    Did anyone ask that teacher whether she can tell the difference between education and indoctrination?

    Same, same.

    Dig on early childhood education and joyfully discover the mountains of tax being hoovered up by corruptocrats who are growing their empire by hiring propagandists to write curricula for two year olds.

    All so the babysitters (Cert IV) manning the sprogs at the gulag know what to say. Proper Newspeak and all.

  181. DrBeauGan

    From the teacher’s point of view, she was dramatising the wickedness of colonialism. An important lesson.

    You’re being a bit wishy washy today, Dr B.

    What wickedness of colonialism?
    The aboriginals suffer now under socialism, not because of colonialism.

    The kids that young should not know anything about that other than to celebrate the forming of one of the greatest countries in the world, part of the western anglosphere, and be joyous they are here, like so many others who want to get here in their millions.

    That was her point of view, not mine, Struth. I think she’s an indoctrinated uneducated fool. I’d hang her for treason.

  182. Arky

    Drama is a valuable subject, if done correctly, with a focus on performances in front of an audience.
    Good for confidence, public speaking etc.

  183. DrBeauGan

    I think she’s an indoctrinated uneducated fool. I’d hang her for treason.

    And I’d find out who was responsible for educating her and hang them too.

  184. Snoopy

    If Royal Commissions are so good, why don’t we scrap Cabinet and just run each ministry via a standing royal commission? Maybe we could scrap government altogether and have the country run by a self-perpetuating super royal commission.

    No more elections. Ever!

  185. bespoke

    Good for confidence, public speaking etc.

    Not so much for YouTube videos hay Arky

  186. 1735099

    Compare the pair.

    Numbers

    I refused to see history rewritten on a website used extensively by schools. As a teacher, I can tell the difference between education and indoctrination.

    Knox Grammar

    “While the school strongly supports the teaching of indigenous culture and heritage, we believe it needs to be taught in a sensitive and appropriate manner.”

    How’s that “Black Armband” history going? Seems pretty entrenched.

    Indoctrination indeed,

    Knox Grammar is a (very posh) private* school.

    There’s no such thing. All receive taxpayer’s money, so should be called subsidized schools.

  187. DrBeauGan

    Arky
    #2937646, posted on February 18, 2019 at 7:36 pm
    Drama is a valuable subject, if done correctly, with a focus on performances in front of an audience.
    Good for confidence, public speaking etc.

    Yes. And it’s an absolute disaster if done badly by ignorant idiots.

    That’s true of most subjects of course. Which is why teaching has been taken over by lefties. And turned to shit like everything lefties touch.

  188. Cassie of Sydney

    “Arky
    #2937646, posted on February 18, 2019 at 7:36 pm
    Drama is a valuable subject, if done correctly, with a focus on performances in front of an audience.
    Good for confidence, public speaking etc.

    Agree, I think that drama is a worthwhile subject. Back in my day it was called “Speech and Drama”. One of the very useful skills we learnt was how to project our voices. Today too many young kids don’t speak properly….they mumble, they don’t articulate and they don’t project their voices.

  189. bespoke

    refused to see history rewritten on a website used extensively by schools. As a teacher, I can tell the difference between education and indoctrination.

    ..”I did not have sexual relations with that woman”.

  190. JC

    Lol

    Steve Sailer

    @Steve_Sailer
    Following Following @Steve_Sailer

    In the 1970s, women gained much acceptance at unimportant institutions such as Harvard Law School, Harvard Medical School, and Harvard Business School, but the Patriarchy conspired to keep women out of the REAL power centers: math, theoretical physics, and computer science.

  191. Snoopy

    Perfect…..

    It’s a small, small world. LOL.

  192. Bruce of Newcastle

    Morrison squibs it.

    To be fair no politician would open Pandora’s Box 3 months out from an election.
    It’ll be a stinker no matter what, because of the dementia issue.
    What can you do?
    Biology sucks sometimes.

  193. Mater

    Knox Grammar is a (very posh) private* school.
    There’s no such thing. All receive taxpayer’s money, so should be called subsidized schools.

    Given the amount of tax their parents likely pay, I’d suggest they probably subsidise the Public Schools.

    Also, while you’re being pedantic about grammar, etc….’subsidized’. How very American of you, Bob. You’re such a fan of the ‘Americanisation’ of Australia, after all.

  194. zyconoclast

    California’s dairy industry knows how to cut its greenhouse gas emissions, but can it afford to?

    The rumbling of a tank-sized generator on the grounds of the Van Warmerdam Dairy is a sound of relief for the longtime farming family.

    It’s a signal that the Van Warmerdams won’t have to change the way they do business much to comply with the looming air quality regulations that aim to slash the sizable carbon footprint of California’s dairy industry.

    Their Galt ranch is one of no more than 20 in the state that has a working methane digester, the expensive equipment that turns the greenhouse gas emitted by cow manure into a source of renewable energy.

    “We didn’t have to, but we thought if we can put it up and be environmentally friendly, we thought we’d be safe (from air quality regulations) for 30 years,” said Peter Van Warmerdam, whose family won a grant that helped it open its digester in 2012.

    Today, many more California dairies are trying to figure out how they, too, can cobble together enough money to buy their own digesters. They anticipate regulations that would compel them to slash methane emissions by at least 40 percent by 2030, the target set by a bill awaiting Gov. Jerry Brown’s signature.

    Hitting that target would require about 200 of California’s 1,400 dairies to join the Van Warmerdams in building a digester, said Michael Boccadoro, president for the advocacy group Dairy Cares.

    Dairy advocates say it’s a tall order.

    Each machine usually costs several million dollars. The companies that build them are trying to meet the demand for their services. Full-time dairymen also have to find utilities to buy the power they can generate on their farms. Otherwise, they won’t recover the cost of the equipment.

    “The industry is concerned they’re getting set up for failure,” Boccadoro said.

    We didn’t have to (build a methane digester), but we thought if we can put it up and be environmentally friendly, we thought we’d be safe for 30 years.

    Galt dairyman Peter Van Warmerdam

    Brown’s administration, through the California Air Resources Board, has been weighing methane restrictions for the past two years. The agency in April published a report calling for a 75 percent reduction in dairy methane emissions by 2030. Compared to manure, about an equal amount of methane is emitted from cow burps and flatulence – a source of emissions that digesters wouldn’t curtail.

    The compromise bill the Legislature passed in late August set a lower goal. It’s not clear yet how the Air Resources Board will interpret the new law if Brown signs it, a spokesman for the Air Resources Board said.

    Agriculture accounts for more than half of California’s methane emissions, making it an obvious industry for the air board to regulate as it tries to carry out Brown’s direction.

    Methane is a less common greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide, although studies suggest it’s much more potent in trapping heat in the Earth’s atmosphere. It builds up in dairy manure pits, where farmers store waste for months until they can spread it on the crops they grow to feed their cows.

    Digester systems tend to cover the manure pit with a tarp. As the waste decomposes, methane lifts and becomes trapped under heavy plastic.

    Several times a day, a small power plant connected to the pit draws down the methane and burns it in the same manner that utilities use natural gas.

    “We’re generating clean power, and we’re destroying a greenhouse gas. You can’t beat that,” said Daryl Maas, whose Redding-based Maas Energy Works manages the digester on the Van Warmerdam farm.

    We’re generating clean power, and we’re destroying a greenhouse gas. You can’t beat that.

    Daryl Maas of Maas Energy Works

    Since 2012, the air board has sought to encourage construction of more digesters by offering incentives through the state’s cap-and-trade program. For example, businesses that emit large quantities of carbon dioxide, such as oil refineries, can pay dairies with digesters to offset pollution elsewhere. Maas said he earns as much as a quarter of his California revenue from selling those offset credits.

    But so far, the number of digesters has remained far below what environmental groups hoped to see.

    “The state is pushing these projects. We as an environmental organization have been pushing these projects. There are really great environmental benefits to these projects, but we’ve had a number of projects that just haven’t been able to get started,” said Rachel Tornek, policy director at Climate Action Reserve.

    One of the biggest barriers, she says, is that dairymen have full-time occupations managing farms with hundreds or thousands of cows, leaving them little extra time to operate expensive equipment outside of their expertise.

    That’s why some dairies have partnered with companies such as Maas Energy or Washington state’s Regenis to build and operate digesters. The power company finds a buyer for the gas and keeps the equipment running. The dairy tends to receive rent from the business running the digester.

    “You can only have so many 24/7 priorities,” Maas said, empathizing with the dairymen.

    $50 million Money set aside by California lawmakers to help dairies buy methane digesters

    Dairies that want digesters tend to do better if they can win a grant to help them get started. A 2014 study from the California Energy Commission found that the systems have not been economically viable without grants.

    California expects to offer about $50 million in methane reduction grants to dairies, according to a spending plan for the state’s cap-and-trade revenue. Boccadoro said that money would buy about 18 to 22 digesters. An early draft of the air board’s methane reduction proposal called for the release of up to $500 million over five years to help dairymen reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

    The Van Warmerdams received about $900,000 from the U.S. Department of Energy and the California Energy Commission. Theirs is now one of five that help fuel the Sacramento Municipal Utility District, which has courted dairies for the past few years.

    “SMUD was very proactive” in winning over the Van Warmerdams, Peter Van Warmerdam said.

    His family farm’s digester is one of the smaller ones in the state. It’s fed by manure from about 1,400 cows and can power about 400 homes when it’s running at peak capacity, Maas said.

    On a recent visit to the Van Warmerdam dairy, Maas and his son walked on the balloon-like tarp covering the dairy’s manure pit.

    Aside from the clean power heading to SMUD’s electricity grid, the digester had one other noticeable benefit. With a tightly covered manure lagoon, the Van Warmerdam farm did not smell as pungent as most dairies.

    “The farmer gets what he wants, we get what we want and it smells better,” Maas said.

  195. Eyrie

    IT, nobody has a duty to submit to slavery.

  196. Makka

    Remember? Let me remind you.

    Lol.

    Just last week you were telling everyone here all day and night that gold holds no value, fkwit. Yet another of your great forecasts destroyed by reality. Like buy AMP! You’re hopeless.

    And if you have any quotes of mine, put them up JC. Let’s see if yo can tell the truth just once.

  197. zyconoclast

    British kids go on school strike to demand climate change action

    A spokeswoman for British Prime Minister Theresa May said that while the government welcomed the students’ engagement, the disruption to schools and lessons would be difficult for teachers.

    Her energy minister Claire Perry, however, said she was “incredibly proud” of the young people while opposition Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn expressed his support for the “school kids of today whose futures are most on the line.”

    Earlier this week, 224 academics from Oxford, Cambridge and other universities declared their support for the students in an open letter published in The Guardian.

  198. zyconoclast

    NSFW

    2019 Nude Valentine Parade

    In San Francisco we celebrate Valentine’s Week – the week of love and friendship – with an annual Nude Valentine Parade. Why nude? Because it’s much more interesting and fun that way, and because nudity and love go well together. Furthermore, this is a way to reduce the harm that prudishness does to our society.

    The parade has been postponed because of bad weather during Valentine’s Week. It will be scheduled for a weekend when warmer, drier weather reaches San Francisco — probably in early March. The time and date will be posted here.

  199. Nick

    From Snoopy’s link:

    (Obama) If I had a son he would look like #JussieSmollett

    Lol

  200. DrBeauGan

    Earlier this week, 224 academics from Oxford, Cambridge and other universities declared their support for the students in an open letter published in The Guardian.

    Sack the gullible nitwits.

  201. cohenite

    Head prefect, that meme which was critiqued on the leftie site, found 1 error; that only 200,000 illegals were in garages not 300,000.

    As I said you’re an open border skank.

  202. DrBeauGan

    NSFW

    2019 Nude Valentine Parade

    Not safe for anywhere.

  203. JC

    Lol.

    Just last week you were telling everyone here all day and night that gold holds no value, fkwit. Yet another of your great forecasts destroyed by reality. Like buy AMP! You’re hopeless.

    And if you have any quotes of mine, put them up JC. Let’s see if yo can tell the truth just once.

    Except I never said that, you dishonest punk. I said gold no longer holds monetary value ( in the traditional sense) and should be sold off on rallies to buy stocks or other assets. It’s true even over the past 100 years.

    Like buy AMP! You’re hopeless.

    Yep, I’m pretty hopeless because It made a wrong trade. You have no fucking idea about anything. What you have are hallucinations, prejudices and a huge chip on one shoulder. Kinship economics and Trades Hall labor market theory is your expertise and low life dishonesty.
    Trading macro views is much, much harder than you make out, you clown. You constantly have to adjust your view if need be and quickly admit you’re wrong and reverse on a dime if necessary. Honestly, I can’t see you ever being that flexible, you clown.

    Sure, I make lots of wrong calls. It’s how it is. I will also continue to make bad calls. But the right trading formula is not the right/wrong trade ratio. It always has been about money management. I once looked at my trades over several years, as I write them all down. One year I had an incredibly good year even though the right wrong ratio was 1 to 3. That’s one win to three losers. It’s about money management, something you would not be mentally equipped enough to handle as one has to be flexible and accept when you are wrong.

    Remind us.. how is that bond market call going, you dick? 🙂

  204. JC

    Head prefect, that meme which was critiqued on the leftie site, found 1 error; that only 200,000 illegals were in garages not 300,000.

    As I said you’re an open border skank.

    Fuck me you’re a dickhead. Those stats were flying around the internet with the claim the LA Times published those stats. It’s not true!

    I suspected they were a hoax because of the claim that 95% of murder warrants were issued against illegals in LA.

    But here’s what you can do. Provide the evidence they are correct. That would be easy enough for a crack climate researcher like you.

    Go!

  205. Boambee John

    1735099
    #2937578, posted on February 18, 2019 at 7:00 pm
    Of course a socialist gets to be a principle (sic) in our indoctrination centres

    Better get a refund on your school fees, old mate.
    It’s “principal”, not “principle”.

    Cheers

    And a reminder from the old thread, it’s “vulva” not “vagina” which they are grabbed by.

    Cheers!

  206. Eyrie

    “Interesting that his name is on the Mothers Memorial in Toowoomba. He was a Perth lad.
    Any ideas?
    May he rest in peace…..”
    Yep, Perth lad. West Leederville State School like me. I was surprised to see his name. Mrs Eyrie and I go to the memorial every Anzac day. Her dad was a WO/Air gunner RNZAF.
    My mother was a German Land Army girl. About six weeks before the end of the war the people in charge, realising it was all but over, sent the girls home with a train ticker. Mum figured that trains were Ami Jabo magnets and declined it. Got on her treadly and rode the several hundred kilometers home. Took 3 weeks. Nobody bothered her as there was still civil authority and messing with a Land Army girl going home would probably get you a swift end. I didn’t hear that story until at her funeral.

  207. Empire 5:5

    Arky
    #2937607, posted on February 18, 2019 at 7:14 pm
    I saw the best posts of my generation destroyed by moderation.

    starving unpublished, dragging themselves through the opaque spaminator at zero hour looking for an escape, patriots burning for the heavenly connection to the dynamo in the machinery of the right.

  208. Black Ball;

    Keep asking AOC about her green dream

    Yep.
    I like to shut them up by saying “If you were in power, what policies would you need to bring in to achieve your goals?”

  209. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ah, Moloch in Rockland, eh Arky?
    Arky, Ginsberg fascinated me at one time; I was sixteen, running wild with lip and excitement.

    Howl (1956) I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of the night.

    There’s more; it goes on and on. I hung on every word; there was life beyond Mt. Druitt and here it was.

    Makka – I think it was Elle who said ‘simply, abuse’. She’s right too – it is abusive for a new girl to be called a slag, a bint, and told to rack off and masturbate, when she’s just trying to find out how this place rolls. Guess she knows now, from the point of view of some. Lucky not everyone joins these silly pile ons.

    Elle has never to my knowledge mentioned a gardener, and I have, so yer a bit muddled there?
    You wouldn’t boss our gardener around lightly, btw. He’s Estonian and practiced his hatreds on the Russians. I am always very friendly and polite to him, as is my wont in general, as youse all know here.

  210. JC

    Cronkite defended the hoax by claiming that:

    Head prefect, that meme which was critiqued on the leftie site, found 1 error; that only 200,000 illegals were in garages not 300,000.

    As I said you’re an open border skank.

    Here’s what the LA Times said about this claim.

    No article has appeared in The Times with this list. And some of these ‘facts’ appear to have been misleadingly edited from articles that appeared in the L.A. Times as long as 20 years ago and are now being cited inappropriately. When this Internet rumor started last year, The Times’ opinion website looked into this hoax; here is the link to those findings:

    http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2007/02/some_memes_neve.html

    One example of how this is inaccurate is the claim that a Times story reported that “over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.” This appears to misquote information from a May 24, 1987, article about the number of people living in garages in Los Angeles County. It reported that, at that time, about 42,000 garages were sheltering about 200,000 immigrants in L.A. County. That article provided detailed information explaining how the figures were arrived at but it did not allude to anyone’s residency status.

    Most readers thank us for the explanation and promise to get word back to those who forwarded the hoax e-mail. Added Akeson: “This hate stuff is very difficult because most people read it and pass it on without even thinking of facts or the hurt they are spreading.”

    Incredible he’s not apologised for the Smollett-like hoax.

  211. Beachcomber

    I think ‘1735099’ is a parody, a sort of Hammygar redux. Nobody could really be that shallow, stupid and smugly vain. Could they?

  212. Mark A

    Boambee John
    #2937681, posted on February 18, 2019 at 8:13 pm

    And a reminder from the old thread, it’s “vulva” not “vagina” which they are grabbed by.

    You like saying that, don’t you?
    Interesting.

  213. Arky

    Ginsberg?
    I was quoting Lisa Simpson.

  214. JC

    Beachcomer

    I haven’t read a single post by the Numbers. However having said that, we have Cronkite peddling hate hoaxes and other people like Makka pushing Trades Hall Labor Market Theory and Kinship Economics.

    The point is that numbers isn’t the only deranged loon here.

  215. Empire 5:5

    As I said you’re an open border skank.

    That’s a pretty solid dismissive insult and I’m stealing it, but it would read better with a comma after said.

  216. struth

    Yep.
    I like to shut them up by saying “If you were in power, what policies would you need to bring in to achieve your goals?”

    Asking them questions stuffs them right up.
    Look at Monty yesterday, sad.
    Look at numbers today.
    He’s a self declared socialist who agrees that Hitler was a socialist.
    Just like him.
    That’s what happens when you make them explain themselves, they can’t.
    Notice how quickly both Monty and numbers revert to links, incapable of defending a point or answering a question.
    And Fharken does it a bit, and when they don’t, you get an Iampeter talking about killing babies type of crash and burn.
    I just find it amusing.
    They are so predictable.
    I knew Dr BG had given the crack Bob was looking for, so he could deflect and hope to just keep on talking.
    They are so utterly predictable.

    Hitler is a socialist, and so is numbers.
    Just ask numbers.
    He believes it.

  217. cohenite

    Fuck me you’re a dickhead.

    Insults from you are like compliments.

    The Snope repudiation of the meme is interesting. Eg: claim:

    The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

    Snope reference:

    In April 2005, Heather Mac Donald, a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, testified before the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims. On the issue of gang membership among illegal immigrants, she said:

    No one knows for certain the percentage of illegals in gangs, thanks in large part to sanctuary laws themselves. But various estimates exist:A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations. It commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.

    Snope qualification:

    Note, however, that this statement references a California Department of Justice study (not an FBI report), and that it describes only a single gang in Los Angeles County (the 18th Street Gang), the gang that likely has the highest membership rate of illegal aliens.

    And so on; as memes go it’s better than most.

    Like I said you’re an open borders skank.

  218. Tel

    There’s no such thing. All receive taxpayer’s money, so should be called subsidized schools.

    You mean the parents get a fraction of their own money back.

    I’m sure everyone sending kids to Knox pays many times more in tax than they get back in support for schools. That said, I would be very happy to get government out of the school system as much as possible. A system of vouchers for the poor and tax deductions for the wealthy would be a great start (not perfect, but better than what we have now).

  219. Boambee John

    Mark A at 2022

    You like saying that, don’t you?
    Interesting.

    Just reminding the pedant that, like all humans, he is less than perfect.

  220. bespoke

    Beachcomber
    #2937689, posted on February 18, 2019 at 8:21 pm
    I think ‘1735099’ is a parody, a sort of Hammygar redux. Nobody could really be that shallow, stupid and smugly vain. Could they?

    Sadly no.

  221. Empire 5:5

    Arky
    #2937691, posted on February 18, 2019 at 8:23 pm
    Ginsberg?
    I was quoting Lisa Simpson.

    I should have known 🙂 You’re a pragmatic fella.

  222. struth

    I haven’t read a single post by the Numbers.

    This is healthy, we’re a broad church here.

    (I must find a better saying) but some of us have fun with them, so please let us continue to poke the woke.

  223. JC

    Cronkite

    The LA Times disavowal note came out in 2007 telling people to disregard those stats because the LA Times has never published anything of the sort.

    You’re nothing if not behind. You posted the hate hoax without even realizing it began making the rounds in 2007… FFS. That’s like a Rumpelstiltskin of hoaxes, you moron.

  224. JC

    Fuckface

    Explain to us how the Snopes comment repudiates the claims you posted. Go!

    It has nothing to say about those hoax stats, you dishonest fucking moron.

  225. Tel

    Drama is a valuable subject, if done correctly …

    The meaning of “correctly” in this context is make it outside school, and optional.

  226. Mark A

    Boambee John
    #2937700, posted on February 18, 2019 at 8:30 pm

    Just reminding the pedant that, like all humans, he is less than perfect.

    All good BJ, just a bit of a dig.

  227. bespoke

    Lizzie, by her own words she has been around along time.

  228. Bruce of Newcastle

    I think ‘1735099’ is a parody, a sort of Hammygar redux. Nobody could really be that shallow, stupid and smugly vain. Could they?

    Beachcomber – Front page of the Tele today.
    Numbers is a teacher.

  229. Arky

    A system of vouchers for the poor and tax deductions for the wealthy would be a great start (not perfect, but better than what we have now).

    ..
    If you have government vouchers you then need to ensure they aren’t being rorted.
    Then you have to have a system of certification for schools, registration for teachers, approved curriculum and before you know it you are back where you started: a government system.
    No.
    There is nothing for it but to ban compulsory education.
    You have ’em, you pay for ’em.
    The problem is compulsion. As soon as something is compulsory it is pretty much worthless.

  230. cohenite

    Head prefect stay calm; I know you’re trying to justify irrational positions but try not to degenerate too much. Memes have a function of characterising important issues. The issue here is that illegal immigrants coming into the US are often criminals, do criminal acts and are a bleed on the resources of the US. The snope analysis in fact supports what it is trying to repudiate. Naturally because you don’t entertain discrediting of open borders you fixate on a trivial point that not all of the facts came from the LA Times; as though that is important.

    It’s pathetic trolling. As I said do better.

  231. JC

    Whoops

    the falsity of the claims

  232. struth

    No.
    There is nothing for it but to ban compulsory education.
    You have ’em, you pay for ’em.
    The problem is compulsion. As soon as something is compulsory it is pretty much worthless.

    plus shitloads

  233. Leo G

    Numbers is a teacher.

    As I recall, former primary school principal. A heavy cross to bear.

  234. MatrixTransform

    I like to shut them up by saying “If you were in power, what policies would you need to bring in to achieve your goals?”

    my fave is, “Who’s gonna pull the cart while you crack the whip?”

  235. DrBeauGan

    Tel
    #2937707, posted on February 18, 2019 at 8:36 pm
    Drama is a valuable subject, if done correctly …

    The meaning of “correctly” in this context is make it outside school, and optional.

    Don’t agree, Tel. I thought Shakespeare was crap when it was the class taking parts and reading Dream. Then they took us to see the Olivier films of Henry V and Richard III and they blew my mind. If they’d followed it up by getting us to do the speeches, properly, I’d have learnt some valuable skills I didn’t get until much later.

  236. Johno

    Bobby, what have you done?
    I read the stuff you put up on your blog about nashos being given the choice to go to SVN or not.
    You searched the records of the BTN parades for the Regiment? Really ? There were 9 BTNs in the Regiment .
    7 did two tours and 2 did one each. That is 16 deployments,BTNs love parades and you searched all of them? Really little Bobby?
    How come you missed my Battalion Bobby? Because we had a parade to let the nashos off. I know because I was there.
    When I went back to SVN for my 2nd tour I deployed through Reo wing.Every nasho there was given the choice. I was given the job of escorting those who didn’t want to go. I never did an escort.
    Every time I hear a nasho whingeing about being sent to SVN I make a point of asking them why they didn’t say NO.
    You are a horrible little man and full of it.
    You hate it when you meet someone who was there and they call you on your crap. Strange person our little Bobby.

  237. Tel

    If you have government vouchers you then need to ensure they aren’t being rorted.

    My guess is that it wouldn’t be difficult to beat the efficiency of the current system, even if there was a bit of rorting. The bad schools would pretty quick get a reputation and people would avoid them, which solves most of the problem.

    Then you have to have a system of certification for schools, registration for teachers, approved curriculum and before you know it you are back where you started: a government system.

    I don’t see why, other than basic OH&S stuff. Do we need a system of certification for breakfast cereals? For tinned fish? Do we need certification for trousers and shoes? How is it that people can be trusted to select their own trousers but suddenly become stupid when it comes to selecting a school?

    Once schools understand that they don’t get voucher funding until they deliver a product that people want, they can shape up or go broke. Free market systems require that some business fails, that’s a good thing because it removed the need to repeat the same mistake forever.

    There is nothing for it but to ban compulsory education.
    You have ’em, you pay for ’em.
    The problem is compulsion. As soon as something is compulsory it is pretty much worthless.

    OK by me … but as a compromise it’s got no hope of going through.

    Also, there is a broad benefit in society from having smart people around, and if teaching was more effective it would contribute to that. It could be done by charity but we have had difficulties with charities and NGO’s being taken over by leftists as well. Ultimately the question is about choice, so a voucher system means parents (and kids) can choose from a number of available schools, and the choice has a real direct effect on the school funding. You want people to be able to choose nothing at all, which is also choice (and for some people might be good if they learn on the job) but the howling will be tremendous.

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