Wednesday Forum: February 20, 2019

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  1. Mater

    Renewables have their challenges, but at least do not have anything like the large scale safety issues of nuclear.

    Teleportation also has it’s challenges, and does not have anything like the large scale safety issues of air travel.

  2. dover_beach

    I see that numbers is still delaying from what would appear to be his most urgent task; that is, of persuading his fellow comrades that the denial of medical care to newborn infants marked for death by abortion is morally bankrupt. This is instructive.

  3. Geriatric Mayfly

    It’s a Penny a Kiss in the house. The faithful in line to plant one on Macklin. Just retired from the fray Phelps, who gave a visible shiver of delight.

  4. mh

    I wonder how long before Bobby Numbers realises this isn’t the site for him. Just from today…

    Now fuck off you tedious turd.

    Communist c..nts like Numbers

    Fk off with your propaganda

    this deluded c..nt

    Numbers, just fvck off and die you boring cvnt.

  5. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The case for the demonization of a thirteen year old could still be made. It is not a perfect case, but there definitely is a case for her which could be made if the will was there to do it. I am ashamed that she was treated like this in my country, her country too.

    If she was my child I would wish it to be reviewed for the child’s sake. It must be quite a burden to have been so publicly shamed and made fearful without redress at such a young age. A legal case would also serve to squash some of the hubris that currently exists around race and offense-taking. We are a long way from Martin Luther King on all of this.

    Five hundred thousand dollars might also be a good figure to assist this young woman’s future.

  6. calli

    C’mon Jenny! Give it a try.

  7. cohenite

    Harken farken and numbers rabbiting on about alarmism;

    Polls about belief in alarmism are notorious depending on what is asked; a couple of interesting ones:

    The Channel nein “Do you believe in man-made global warming?” Yes: 38,311 No: 84,240

    The infamous abc poll which was taken down when it went against the narrative so all we have left is a screenshot before the count was reversed.

    All you have to remember about alarmist polls is their 97% of scientists support alarmism poll which when examined turned into a 1%.

    The simple fact is alarmists are liars, cheats and bastards.

  8. cohenite

    Actually renewables are the most polluting form of energy with many more deaths than all other energy sources combined.

    And renewables are much more polluting than any other energy form.

  9. JC

    Climate Harken’s solution to gerbiling is ruinables. There has been some work done in the area in terms of costing out the entire thing. For instance, for california to be entirely fitted with ruinables and battery back up… the cost would be US$5 trillion…. not million, not billion, but trillion..

    Given that we have a smaller population than California but far more spread out over a continent, the cost for Australia would be about the same to US$7 trillion because of the sheer size of the continent.

    Australia’s current annual GDP is US$1.3 trillion. It would therefore mean 5.5 years of annual GDP to properly switch over to ruinables.

    Climate Harkel reckons it could be done and we should do it NOW!

  10. Boambee John

    Pharten Now

    What you probably meant to say is “An “ape” might be used by a person with no racist intent; it is entirely understandable that a black man so taunted by a white person would be sensitive to the potential for it to have been used with racist intent.”

    But enough of the use of that term by Peter Fitzsimons, we are discussing a 13 year old school girl.

  11. calli

    And here she is in all her windbag glory.

    And who can forget her shreiking “Where is ‘e? Bring ‘im out!” across the benches (in reference to Abbott)?

    What an ornament to Australian politics.

  12. Makka

    The link to the open borders advert article.

    It goes deeper than that actually. P’sOS leftards like numbers support abolishing ICE. ICE’s role is to prevent illegal entry into the US such as from rapists, gang bangers, gun runners, drug cartels etc and importantly , prevent child trafficking for sex across borders into the US. :

    https://www.news.com.au/world/woman-beheaded-because-family-wouldnt-pay-ransom/news-story/77d531d3bcd45e8cb3989f659d943b54

    Commo scumbags like numbers, mUnty and fHark! are very happy to see violence and grief visited on law abiding everyday citizens. They are here daily arguing for it to happen.

  13. Makka

    The link to the open borders advert article.

    It goes deeper than that actually. P’sOS leftards like numbers support abolishing ICE. ICE’s role is to prevent illegal entry into the US such as from raypists, gang bangers, gun runners, drug cartels etc and importantly , prevent child t rafficking for s3x across borders into the US. :

    https://www.news.com.au/world/woman-beheaded-because-family-wouldnt-pay-ransom/news-story/77d531d3bcd45e8cb3989f659d943b54

    Commo scumbags like numbers, mUnty and fHark! are very happy to see violence and grief visited on law abiding everyday citizens. They are here daily arguing for it to happen.

  14. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    a black man so taunted by a white person

    A black man: a rich successful and much lauded and feted sporting hero, not particularly ‘black’
    so taunted: angrily singling out one small other-side sporting fan in the melee of a crowded arena
    by a white person: who was a piping-voiced child on an outing with her Nana

    Big Hero, eh?

    You sicken me.

  15. Top Ender

    Truly we have arrived at generation snowflake:

    Aviation firefighters ladder training points to losing battle with nanny state
    CHRIS KENNY

    Aviation firefighters are forbidden from training on ladders that are more than two metres high.

    When will we know the nanny state has won? Presumably a government committee will be formed to consult widely, assess all the available information and let us know through a carefully planned public communication strategy.

    Or perhaps it is too late. Perhaps the battle has been lost already and it is just that no one has made the pronouncement. How else to explain how the nation’s official senate estimates proceedings — a serious parliamentary examination of government expenditure and practices — can reveal information and evidence that is beyond the imagination of the boldest satirists?

    On Monday night Labor Senator Alex Gallacher asked a question of Airservices Australia chief fire officer, Glenn Wood: “Is it true that under your authority no aviation firefighter is currently allowed to train on a ladder that’s over two metres?”

    “That’s correct, Senator,” replied the chief fire officer Wood.

    “I don’t want to laugh,” stifled Senator Gallacher, “but I’ve got these visions of firefighters going up ladders that are about 30 metres high not two metres.”

    “Yes well we take the safety of our people very seriously, Senator,” replied the chief fire officer, “and there is a risk of fall from a ladder and we’ve examined that issue and we’ve determined that at this time we will restrict our firefighters from climbing up a ladder greater than two metres, so they can practice the necessary skills, while we form a working group to look at an improved way going forward and whether that improved way includes harness systems and the like.”

    [email protected] on rules prohibiting firefighters working at Australia’s airports from climbing ladders more than two-metres high during training exercises: Watch out Australia, the nanny state is taking over.

    There would seem to be a number of stumbling blocks for this approach. For instance, how will the working group look at improving practices unless it too, risks climbing a ladder that is more than two metres high? And if it is determined that the working groups needs to climb higher than two metres in order to recommend practices for making such climbs safe, will it need to commission a further working group before it commences? The mind boggles.

    But back to the real world evidence from Canberra. Chief fire officer Wood said the fireman at our airports can continue to practice their skills daily on ladders that are up to two metres high. “You may laugh, Senator,” he objected at one point, “but it’s a serious thing.”

    He said that 99 times out of every 100 times a firefighter climbs a ladder it is in training, so the move to restrict the height to two metres “significantly reduces the risk of a fall from ladder from height”.

    That it does. Then again, if they abandoned ladders and training altogether, surely no one will ever get hurt.

    Link

  16. Geriatric Mayfly

    ‘My friend Wayne,’ said Macklin through her sobs, looking at her bestie who sat beside her.

  17. Geriatric Mayfly

    ‘My friend Wayne,’ said Macklin through her sobs, looking at her bestie who sat beside her. May have missed it, but Emily’s List was not singled out for special mention. Odd, seeing Macklin of the Socialist Left, was one of the senior harpies in that coven.

  18. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Well off you go then

    Typical nonsensical comment. I am not debating with you precisely because of this level of personalized vitriol you always introduce. It’s bad enough that we have trolls. Home grown hatreds are stupid.

  19. Geriatric Mayfly

    Oops. An we-mail with fishing news arrived mid Macklin. Priorities.

  20. JC

    Here’s more from Manhattan Contrarian.

    The Laughable Fantasy Of 100% Renewable Energy

    Harkel et al, in a recent pea reviewed research paper titled something like.. The Green New Deal

    Yes, we are calling for a full transition off fossil fuels and zero greenhouse gases. Anyone who has read the resolution sees that we spell this out through a plan that calls for eliminating greenhouse gas emissions from every sector of the economy. Simply banning fossil fuels immediately won’t build the new economy to replace it [sic] — this is the plan to build that new economy and spells out how to do it technically. We do this through a huge mobilization to create the renewable energy economy as fast as possible. We set a goal to get to net-zero, rather than zero emissions, in 10 years because we aren’t sure that we’ll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast, but we think we can ramp up renewable manufacturing and power production, retrofit every building in America, build the smart grid, overhaul transportation and agriculture, plant lots of trees, and restore our ecosystem to get to net-zero.

    The counter:

    Temple meanwhile reports on some California projects attempting to mediate solar and wind power intermittency with lithium-ion Tesla-style batteries. Conclusion:

    The California projects are among a growing number of efforts around the world, including Tesla’s 100-megawatt battery array in South Australia, to build ever larger lithium-ion storage systems as prices decline and renewable generation increases. They’re fueling growing optimism that these giant batteries will allow wind and solar power to displace a growing share of fossil-fuel plants. But there’s a problem with this rosy scenario. These batteries are far too expensive and don’t last nearly long enough, limiting the role they can play on the grid, experts say. If we plan to rely on them for massive amounts of storage as more renewables come online . . . we could be headed down a dangerously unaffordable path.

    Just keep this in mind. This study costed batteries at half the current price.

    The conclusion in the cases of both Germany and California was that it would take approximately 25 TWH (that’s “terawatt hours” — trillions of watt hours) of storage to get through a year. Using optimistic battery prices of about half the current market, Andrews was then able to put a cost on this endeavor: about $5 trillion for one set of batteries for either Germany or California. I reported on this work in the post titled “How Much Do The Climate Crusaders Plan To Increase Your Costs Of Electricity — Part III” on November 29, 2018.

    Keep in mind that the batteries have to be replaced as they don’t last.

    https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2019-2-5-eulogy-for-roger-andrews

    Climate harkel.. the climate theologian.

  21. cohenite

    The muslim Samir Ekermawi, who is second only to gay activist burns for hrc complaints is in court charged with assaulting Avi, was wearing some interesting accoutrements to court: ADF medals and an RSL jacket.

  22. Makka

    What you probably meant to say is “An “ape” might be used by a person with no racist intent; it is entirely understandable that a black man so taunted by a white person would be sensitive to the potential for it to have been used with racist intent.”

    Enough has been written about Goode’s dummy spit taking outraged offence ,all 30 odd years and 120kg of him, from a little 13 yo kid. A real tough guy is Goodesy..

    However the worst part was the filthy left’s pile on of this child, their despicable applause for the man handling of this young girl , hauled out of her seat into isolation from her family for several hours while she underwent interrogation.

    Waytogo leftards. Truly admirable stuff.

  23. Dr Faustus

    An alarming similarity in appearance between Ms Macklin and Frau Merkel.

  24. Percy Popinjay

    Have to put the bins out extra late, now – which means I risk forgetting.

    fleeced – yep, I’ve resorted to doing that as well, which simply means the vagrants tip the bin over later in the evening.

  25. Myrddin Seren

    Hello Cataverse.

    I am well behind on Cat reading, but would just like to refer to the issue of National Service and deployment overseas again. If nothing else, I want to put this one as a reference here, in the hope I can duckduckgo it again in future. Bear with me or scroll on, as you see fit.

    This one has bothered me for years, as the topic periodically arises here.

    And I hate the imprecision of the debate – because I can’t imagine anything that should not be more clear cut than a paper trail about sending or not sending conscripted citizen-soldiers in to an overseas warzone.

    If there was some optionality on this, then to my checklist driven managerial mind, there should have been a copy of a signed form in each Nashos service file – ‘yes’ or ‘no’.

    So – following some of the recent links and debate:

    The Wiki ( which echoes things like AWM ) says:

    In 1965, the Defence Act was again amended to require the CMF to serve overseas which was not included in the 1964 amendments.[26]
    Defence Act No. 51 of 1965 Section 50C

    Okay, I have seen more user-friendly tools than the Federal Register of Legislation, but one of Bob Numbers’ other links showed me the way in and from there, poked around the site.

    There we get –Defence Act 1965

    Download. Scroll to Section 50C

    “50C. Members of the Military Forces may be required to serve either within or beyond the territorial limits of Australia.”.

    Which seems a bet ‘Meh’, unless read with an earlier section

    7. Section 32 of the Principal Act is amended (a) by omitting sub-section (3.) and inserting in its stead the
    following sub-section:

    “(3.) The Regular Army Supplement consists of

    (b) soldiers who, under the National Service Act 1951-1965, are to be deemed to have been enlisted in that force;

    Absent M’Learned Colleague Dot – that’s it, as far as I can tell.

    Nashos were deemed to be part of the Army and the Army was told its members ‘may’ be required to serve overseas.

    The only ambiguity seems to be around ‘may’. Who is the ‘may’ authority, because as we have seen in recent discussions, there seems to have been some ‘local’ variations on this, leading to the vastly different experiences of Bob and Johno.

    Disclaimer – at this point I am not disputing the experience of either commenter. I just note, basis the above Defence Act amendment, Johno described his experience as:

    Prior to embarking for SVN ALL the Nashos in my battalion were assembled in the gym.

    The battalion commander was ordered off base.

    If this was a regular procedure, why was the CO ‘absented’ ? Was the CO’s absence plausible deniability over an irregular process ?

    The nashos were then given a piece of paper with their name on it .They were asked to indicate whether they wished to go to SVN or not.

    A slip of paper, or a form that went on their service record ?

    If they wrote no they were given an escort to their barracks by two military police and they were sent to another unit.

    This is what struck me at first. If this was a standard procedure, why on earth would the opt-outs be escorted by MPs – rather than an NCO, to collect their kit ?

    Unless the ‘no’ vote was being treated as some sort of technical violation ( “I hereby confirm I will be a defaulter of some sort” ), the process was moving sideways troopers who would be reluctant squad members and thus the battalion was actively shoving them sideways with no great paper trail of courts martial and the like ? Better for the battalion – better for the reluctant nashos, in a combat situation where you want everyone focussed and on the attack.

    Three reluctant chaps left Johno’s battalion, but still provided service in another corps. Maybe they went on to fulfilling careers as pay clerks – who knows ?

    But I can’t see any regular mechanism of opt-in. I can see where it may have occurred as a local arrangement in the interests of unit cohesion.

    Happy to stand corrected if I am missing something ?

  26. Notafan

    But you did debate with me

    It is nothing to do with hatred, but you always make claims about something or the other personal, at the end, don’t you? Do you honestly think everyone who disagrees with your is jealous of you?

    I merely suggested that the cases were not exactly the same and you went on to make claims that are really quite silly

    If you really really cared you would write/do something yourself.

    That is all I meant.

  27. calli

    Goodes knew she was only 13 when he called her “the face of racism in Australia”.

    Rep ellent toad.

  28. JC

    Hark, Liz:. I sicken you?

    The climate harkel. The site’s climate and ruinables theologian.

  29. Joanna

    Tim Soup is on 3AW defending his appalling treatment of Bill Leak. Truly sickening.

  30. Fleeced

    ATO, shutting down fun, just because they can.

    The Gosford Classic Car Museum has closed with the loss of 40 jobs after a two-year battle with the Australian Taxation Office.

    He said the ATO ordered Auto Invest to stop using the word `museum’ in its name, stop charging admission and stop advertising. However this saw visitation plummet (duh)…

  31. Old School Conservative

    Fleeced
    #2939244, posted on February 20, 2019 at 3:00 pm
    …A Nigerian prince has more credibility.

    Wasn’t the IPCC run by a Nigerian prince?
    No…wait…he something even more impressive. A railways engineer. Now accused of sexual harassment.

  32. Des Deskperson

    Ten News just now had an interview with one Gordon Thompson, President of the Shire of Christmas Island.

    Thompson was outraged by the decision to reopen the detention centre on the island, claiming that the Council had not been consulted and that the residents are upset at being pawns in a move whose main aim was to help the government get re-elected.

    That last phrase sorta rang, as they say, a bell, so I checked and yes, according to Wikipedia, Thompson was previously the General Secretary of the Union of Christmas Island Workers.

    Ten News didn’t mention this, but it’s quite likely they (a) didn’t know and (b) made no attempt to check.

  33. lotocoti

    No…wait…he something even more impressive. A railways engineer. Now accused of sexual harassment.

    Didn’t he pen a sexy-time novel?
    Maybe he was LARPing it.

  34. Geriatric Mayfly

    As well there were “very real implications for our onshore justice system of transferring persons on to the mainland where we are aware that the person is charged or accused of a serious offence or we have reason for grounds to believe that they are of bad character”, Mr Porter said.

    Remember how Iron Bar Tuckey was pilloried by the usual mob, when he dared suggest that some country shoppers might be of low, even crminal, calibre.
    Ditto Kevin Andrews and the African imports. But we won’t go there.

  35. Boambee John

    Cohenite at 1706

    Medals on the left or right side (link no worky)?

    If he has no entitlement, he might soon be back in court on a different charge.

  36. JC

    The US spends around US$ 50 billion a year on non-military intelligence. It’s probably closer to US$70 billion if one takes in the military side.

    In order to gain perspective on what this amount “feels” like:
    1. $192 million a day
    2.$8 million an hour
    3. $133,000 per minute
    4. $2,200 per second

    An Indictment Exposes America’s Witless Intelligence Agencies
    Monica Witt allegedly spied for Iran—but she defected in 2013, so she’ll never be brought to justice.

    U.S. officials revealed last week that a federal grand jury indicted Monica Witt, a former Air Force counterintelligence official, on charges of passing extremely sensitive secrets to agents of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps.

    The case highlights how broken the U.S. intelligence system has become. For more than 30 years it has demonstrated an inability to keep secrets, to protect itself from foreign penetrations by hostile spy services, or to prevent current and former officials from defecting.

    The result: Brave foreign nationals who risk their lives inside harsh regimes to spy for America are being killed and imprisoned on a significant scale.

    Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigation officials portrayed Ms. Witt’s indictment as a victory of sorts, lauding the exposure of a foreign spy after a multiyear probe. Yet the real story is not Ms. Witt’s indictment but her defection to Iran in 2013. She brought with her details of a secret communications system American handlers use to talk to their recruited agents.

    The FBI fumbled the case in 2012 by warning Ms. Witt she might be targeted for recruitment by Iranian intelligence. A trained counterspy, she knew that the tip-off meant she was under investigation and surveillance. It likely set in motion her flight to Iran a year later. As she boarded the plane, she texted her handler: “I’m signing off and heading out! Coming home.” Other texts reveal she “told all” to an Iranian ambassador in Central Asia and had plans to go public in the manner of renegade National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden.

    The indictment is largely symbolic, since the prospects of bringing the case to trial are slim to none. But it is one way for the FBI to dispose of the matter.

    Officials did not detail the impact of Ms. Witt’s betrayal. Jay Taub, the FBI’s assistant director for national security, would say only that she became an “ideological” defector after converting to Islam. Her actions, he added, inflicted “serious damage to national security.”

    The ineptitude is also getting assets killed.

    Last year, the New York Times and Yahoo News both reported that between 20 and 30 recruited Chinese agents were killed or imprisoned between 2009 and 2013. Yahoo reported the loss was caused by a breach in an internet messaging system used to communicate with agents in Iran that spread to other countries. The Times blamed the loss on a former CIA officer, Jerry Chung Shin Lee, who was arrested in January 2018 and is suspected of passing along their names to China.

    These recent losses follow decades of similar disasters. Aldrich Ames, a CIA counterintelligence officer, spied for Moscow and gave up the agency’s network of agents working against the Soviet Union and Russia between 1985 until his arrest in 1993. At nearly the same time, FBI agent Robert Hanssen, also a turncoat counterspy, gave over secrets on recruited agents to Moscow between 1979 and 2001.

    Ana Montes, the Defense Intelligence Agency’s senior analyst on Cuba, had already been recruited to spy for Havana when she joined DIA in 1985. Until her arrest in 2001, she helped Cuba neutralize all recruited CIA agents in the country. Another failure compromised all recruited agents in Eastern Europe during the Cold War.

    These disasters and others can be traced to a lack of effective counterintelligence—finding and neutralizing foreign spies. Critics of the late CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton dismissed the efforts as “sickthink,” and since Angleton was ousted in the 1970s, counterintelligence has been the bastard stepchild of American intelligence.

    Congress should demand quality controls on the $60 billion it appropriates for intelligence services each year. New and more effective counterintelligence programs should be a priority. A good first step would be to elevate the practice of neutralizing foreign spies to a strategic level of importance. This would involve better vetting and monitoring of those granted access to agent secrets, including after they leave government.

    The most effective way to prevent further spy betrayals is to shift the focus toward offensive counterintelligence operations. That means devoting more people and funds to getting inside hostile spy services before they can penetrate U.S. intelligence agencies.

    The west is really in a mess.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/an-indictment-exposes-americas-witless-intelligence-agencies-11550619807

  37. Leo G

    Goodes knew she was only 13 when he called her “the face of racism in Australia”.
    Rep ellent toad.

    Homi no idea he is an ape.

  38. bespoke

    Myrddin Seren
    #2939337, posted on February 20, 2019 at 5:15 pm

    Thanks for putting the time and doing it without padding.

  39. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My point was that it is entirely reasonable for a black man to be sensitive to the issue of racist intent in a term with a history of racist use.
    My point actually said nothing of the matter of whether the response of various people that day was reasonable or not.

    Oh dear. Where to start? And why bother?

    Goodes is a rich footballer who demonstrated unreasonable sensitivity in the context. Don’t deny that.
    I would include Goodes exactly in that group of people who made a response that day and in the days to follow, that group about whom you claim you made no judgement. No later apology to the child. No concern about the police action that he demanded. A lot of grandstanding about he nobly wasn’t going to ‘press charges’ against her. Media interviews about what a good guy he was. What twisted ethics you have. Who, in this particular case, is the victim?

    Let me tell you. It isn’t Goodes.

    C’mon, Harken. Let’s hear it from you. Make your judgement and include Goodes in it.

    I’m wondering if someone like Helen Garner would be interested in doing a book on the case. She has a reasonable track record in dissecting politically correct stupidities, although perhaps she has too many left friends to risk losing them over bringing some justice and reality to how the young girl was treated. It is the intrusion of ‘aboriginality’ into this disgraceful episode for the child that makes it such a political hot potato, and one that Australian publishing should address. I’d be tempted to write it myself (I’ve mostly lost all of my leftist friends already and care not), if I wasn’t trying to write something else under pressure right now, and if I lived in Melbourne to do the research and interviews. Perhaps some fired and/or fired-up journalist might read this and take it up, hopefully applying the word ‘fairness’ in a less than leftist fashion? Better than learning to code?

    Probably a vain hope though. And that Guardian article will have the last say.

  40. Makka

    The US spends around US$ 50 billion a year on non-military intelligence. It’s probably closer to US$70 billion if one takes in the military side.

    How much of that ends up in Switzerland, Panama or Andorra? Lots I expect. The CIA and FBI are too busy going after conservatives at home and abroad to be bothered with National Security in any meaningful way. They couldn’t even twig to Feinstein’s Chicom spy driver after 20 odd years ffs.

  41. JC

    The CIA and FBI are too busy going after conservatives at home and abroad to be bothered with National Security in any meaningful way.

    And even then they managed to fuck it up.

  42. 1735099

    This one has bothered me for years, as the topic periodically arises here.

    Thanks – a rational contribution and an entirely reasonable hypothesis – i.e. the plausible deniability argument. It bothers me also, in case you haven’t picked that up.
    There are some aspects that are immutable.
    One is (as you point out) that Nashos were deemed part of the army and needed to be treated in the same way as regulars. The NS act was carefully drafted to ensure this.
    The second aspect is that no commander wanted to arrive in country without being as confident as he could be of the cohesion of his unit.
    Perhaps the alleged unofficial opt out parade was a solution.
    Having said that, the recollections of those maintaining that there was an option vary widely, and are very difficult to pin down.
    Whatever, it would be great to know exactly want was accepted practice, and that is what I’m on about. I have in mind a Ph D thesis and am preparing a submission. It is important to me, as I believe truth (not myth) best honours the blokes I served with.
    My experience and that of the men I served with in my sub-unit is clear, but it was a much larger army and a much larger war than unit and sub-unit experience.
    I’ve probably got between five and ten years of health enough to do the research and arrive at the truth, and I’m determined to do just that. Any help through the medium of this forum would be appreciated.

    It’s a bit personal. We lost a daughter in 1982 through a congenital deformity and tomorrow I fly interstate to visit a section mate dying with myeloma. Both blood cancer and congenital deformities are linked with exposure to dioxin. I would like to be able to assure him and my wife that the whole truth and majesty of their sacrifice will outlive them.

  43. thefrollickingmole

    JC

    Read “legacy of ashes” and then think “just how fucking good is America that it can survive such massive fuckups in charge of security”…

    There has never been a “golden age” for US intelligence.
    It is shit, and has always been shit.

  44. Overburdened

    Decision by the USA to seek no retribution or try to retrieve the body of a young evangelicalist who was bownarrarrowed to death trying to convert the Sentinelese.
    Reduced circumstances so cannot add a link. It’s on news.com.au
    This is the sanest thing l have read for a long while.
    I reckon that the young person was showing an unreasonable lack of common sense in perusing his actions and the Sentineles were protecting themselves.
    I wonder about the ramifications of the decision when juxtaposed against the themes of the current political debate in the USA and also Australia.

  45. struth

    Ape was never used against blacks.
    That’s only in the minds of the left.
    They’re horrified people say what they are thinking even though it’s not what the person saying it is thinking.
    It’s typical left wing Projection.

    Ape has been what hairy men, both black white or purple with pink polka dots have been called.
    Apes aren’t very bright so it’s also used on all races if you do something stupid ar fool around.
    Eg, Galah
    They just need to be victims and offended.
    Like Fharken, he’s monkeying about here, and so is Numbers, shitting in his hands and clapping.
    Both ignorant, stupid fucking apes,

  46. Overburdened

    I think it’s hilarious how autocorrect can send you from the penthouse to the basement

  47. Snoopy

    Ten News just now had an interview with one Gordon Thompson, President of the Shire of Christmas Island.

    Thompson was outraged by the decision to reopen the detention centre on the island, claiming that the Council had not been consulted and that the residents are upset at being pawns in a move whose main aim was to help the government get re-elected.

    That last phrase sorta rang, as they say, a bell, so I checked and yes, according to Wikipedia, Thompson was previously the General Secretary of the Union of Christmas Island Workers.

    Christmas Island’s very own AOC. We don’t want your stinking jobs!

  48. thefrollickingmole

    Bloke is a mouth breathing retard, and those who “follow” him sub-tards.

    But banning is just dumb.
    He now sells 1000 more videos at $10 each/gets more youtube hits etc because he “must be telling the truth, so the government is silencing me”…!!!

    Controversial British conspiracy theorist David Icke has been banned from entering Australia, with the Home Affairs Department cancelling his visa.

    Mr Icke, 66, believes the world has been taken over by alien lizards, including some who have infiltrated the British Royal family.

    He is a Holo ca ust denier who argues the September 11 terrorist attacks in New York City were an inside job.

    Mr Icke was due to travel to Australia next month, taking his latest speaking tour to Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane, Hobart and Sydney.

    Tickets to his appearances ranged from $55 to $75.

    “Four hours that will change your life, the World’s Most Famous Alternative Researcher has put together a presentation that will blow even the most open of minds,” the tour website said.

    “The man who predicted 9/11, The Banking Crash, Cashless Society, Transhumanism and more, years before they reached the public arena.

    “He has been ridiculed time and time again but as the passage of time passes he is proved right again and again and again.”

    Sources told the ABC his visa had been cancelled on character grounds.

    Late last year, the Government cancelled the visa of right-wing provocateur and founder of the Proud Boys group Gavin McInnes ahead of his planned speaking tour of the country.

    Labor’s immigration spokesman Shayne Neumann said the Government has made the right decision in this case.

    “Labor welcomes the fact that the Government did what we called on them to do and refused David Icke’s visa application,” he said.

    “It’s up to Immigration Minister David Coleman to explain who he lets into Australia and how his decisions meet community standards and expectations.

    “We would have been concerned if Immigration Minister David Coleman granted a visa to anyone who intends to vilify a segment of the Australian community or sow dangerous seeds of disunity.”

    Dvir Abramovich, the chairman of the Anti-Defamation Commission who launched the campaign to revoke Mr Icke’s visa, praised the Government for “declaring in a loud voice that anti-se m ites and Holo c aust deniers will never find a home in Australia.”

    “Allowing Icke into our country would have crossed red lines and would have sent the message that it is open season on the Je ish community and that vilifying and maligning Australian Je w s is ok and normal,” Dr Abramovich said.

    Sure enough, go to the loons website and top story is how he must be telling the truth thats why Ive been banned crap.
    https://www.davidicke.com/
    (and yes he appears to be a raving anti- sem i te.)

  49. Overburdened

    MH 4:39pm
    The type of person you’re referring to is rubbing their little hands together. Passive aggressive type behaviour is always about secondary gain.

  50. struth

    Hey Numb nuts.
    Linking to leftism is moronic as it’s no proof whatsoever.
    Other lefties lie as much as you do.
    You can’t believe each other, you should know that.

  51. struth

    We would have been concerned if Immigration Minister David Coleman granted a visa to anyone who intends to vilify a segment of the Australian community or sow dangerous seeds of disunity.”

    Exactly, that’s the job of government.

  52. Makka

    AFR;

    The economy is at risk of a “doozy recession” as the housing downturn accelerates at an “alarming pace” weakening consumer sentiment, warns former Morgan Stanley global strategist Gerard Minack.

    Mr Minack, who is known for calling the global financial crisis, said a recession would drive cash rates to zero, 10-year bond yields to 1 per cent and the Australian dollar to $US60 cents.

    The likelihood of a recession should become clear around the time of the May federal election, forcing economic management to the top of the political agenda.

  53. struth

    A bloke I know has a hairy back.
    Since he has gone grey, he is now referred to as old silver back.
    Honestly, it’s not good, the poor bastard.
    He’s white.
    He lives in Darwin and without a care in the world shows it off at every opportunity.

  54. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Do you honestly think everyone who disagrees with your is jealous of you?
    I merely suggested that the cases were not exactly the same and you went on to make claims that are really quite silly

    Oh, here we go again. Loopy moving of the goalposts and any reasonable terms of reference.

    Jealousy? Que? as Judith says. Who mentioned jealousy. Why would I see disagreement as jealousy?
    Are you projecting or something?

    Yes, you mentioned that the cases are not the same. I don’t, and didn’t, disagree. Nothing I said about the Goodes case was contrapuntal to your observation there. Of course they were different, but there are some similarities; you clearly didn’t comprehend my point that both cases rest on interpretive reactions of the offenderati to perceived political stimuli. I cannot agree that my detailing the case further was ‘really quite silly’. That is waffle as critique. How is it ‘silly’? In what elements? As Maggie Thatcher says: details, please?

    Except please don’t. On past form your reply would simply be a further set of post-hole digging and I have no intention of putting my mind to dissecting your confusions and shifts any more. You seem particularly prone to adding extra layers of leaps of logic when in pseudo-discourse with me. Not my problem.

  55. Snoopy

    Thank heavens that great Cadbury’s gorilla ad was post Goodes and Harambe. It would never get a go these days.

  56. Snoopy

    pre Goodes and Harambe. FFS!

  57. Baldrick

    Des Deskperson
    #2939347, posted on February 20, 2019 at 5:26 pm
    Ten News just now had an interview with one Gordon Thompson, President of the Shire of Christmas Island.

    Here’s more …
    “Gordon (Thomson) loves the place. (Christmas Island) A former Communist, he is now an ALP member but is highly critical of the current Labor governments policy on asylum seekers …”

    From “Profits of Doom: How vulture capitalism is swallowing the world”
    Published 2013.

  58. struth

    We have just found out, as we are looking into it that all payments to employees must now go through government no matter how small your business and the employee must register on the government website to see their payslip.
    Too early to tell just looking into it.

    Not long now, guys, pack your bags.

  59. Overburdened

    Mh 5:25
    Me Watson is very astute. Please refer to the article re USA decision over death of missionary.

  60. Peter Castieau

    Day one of the Melbourne caravan show.

    Numbers miles down on last year. Something going on Victoriastan I’m unaware of?

    Wednesday is neither your arse nor your elbow so hopefully things will pick up tomorrow.

  61. amortiser

    Harken,
    You have convinced yourself of the credibility of this climate scam because of the consensus. The climate scientists you hang your hat on don’t even believe the rubbish that they circulate.

    The rabbit on about the evils of carbon dioxide, the evil of using aircraft, cars etc yet they are the first to use these conveyances to attend their climate conferences in exotic locales.

    You have the likes of advocates like Tim Flannery, Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd howling about sea level rise yet they buy and reside in waterfront properties.

    You have government’s like the Maldives who lecture the rest of us about how are actions will result in that country disappearing beneath the waves. In fact, the users of climate models predicted in Sept 1988 that the Maldives would disappear in 30 years. That limit was reached in Sept 2018 and the Maldives is funnily enough still a desirable tourist destination. In the face of that dire prediction, what did the government of the Maldives do? They built and brand spanking new international airport and allowed the construction of 20 new tourist resorts. Are these the actions of those who really believe the carastrophic global warming?

    If these charlatans really believed what they are spouting they wouldn’t be doing any of that stuff. Look at what they do and compare it to what they say. It’s poles apart.

    We now have Ocasio-Cortez now spouting similar nonsense. We have only 12 years to save the planet!!! How many times have the advocates spouted this line in the past. The tipping point has been reached so many times it’s obviously futile to spend another cent as its not going to make any difference anyway.

    Harken, it’s simple science. Any first year student understands it. It’s called the scientific method. You form a hypothesis eg. Increasing levels of CO2 in the atmosphere will cause the Maldives to disappear in 30 years. You test the hypothesis ie CO 2 levels increase from 280 ppm to 400ppm ( even faster than initially predicted) and the result is that the Maldives still sits happily out there in the Indian Ocean.

    Any scientist who posited that hypothesis would conclude that the hypothesis had been falsified and seek a new explanation for what drives climate.

    Harken, if that is not so can you appraise me of the “new” scientific method now in vogue?

  62. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A bloke I know has a hairy back.

    Yeah, me too. 🙂
    Much less hairy now since radiation treatment and middle age have both done their bit.
    With his genes, it’s a young man’s issue; our son begged for laser treatment at fourteen, which we provided. It’s all settled down a somewhat now and he’s accepted that hairiness is part of becoming a man.
    Like his dad, my own old Silverback. My much loved Hairy Ape.

  63. Cassie of Sydney

    “thefrollickingmole
    #2939368, posted on February 20, 2019 at 6:04 pm
    Bloke is a mouth breathing retard, and those who “follow” him sub-tards.

    But banning is just dumb.”

    Agree entirely, this is a bad decision and I speak as someone who is Joooish. Icke is a very icky and nasty person with putrid views but banning him makes him a martyr. It also sets a very bad precedent…..who next?

  64. Fleeced

    Gay magazine says that Trump’s efforts to see homosexuality decriminalised internationally is…. RACIST!

    Because, because, because… well, he’s Hitler, so everything he does is racist. Or something. And it’s an old right-wing trick. Why, just about every fascist dictator has supported homosexuality in order to keep the black man down.

    There’s just no limit. Every time I think they’ve already jumped the shark, they find another, bigger shark.

  65. Bruce of Newcastle

    What, for pointing out the silliness of you claiming that an Aboriginal called an “ape” has to be “hypersensitised” to racism to think it was meant as racist?

    Lefties are totally thick.
    The “ape” comment was meant as an endearment not an insult.
    Mr Goodes is a hot guy.

    You can call me a Neanderthal if you want, since for dinner I just had a nice hot bacon sandwich with harissa. I won’t be insulted.

    Isotopes found in bones suggest Neanderthals were fresh meat eaters (Phys.org, 19 Feb)

    Ever since scientists discovered the extinct species of human we now know as Neanderthal, our view of them has been changing. Initially, it was believed they were much less intelligent than us, had few if any skills, and in general, were more ape-like than human. And that included their diet—big apes are vegetarian, so it seemed logical to conclude that Neanderthal were, as well.

    The researchers suggest that when the evidence is considered as a whole, it appears very likely that fresh meat was a main constituent of the Neanderthal diet—meat derived from vegetarian animals.

    There you go. Neanderthals didn’t ape apes. Instead they ate vegetarians.

  66. zyconoclast

    Reverend Al Sharpton says Jussie Smollett should be held accountable ‘to the maximum’ if it’s found he staged homophobic and racist attack

    I still maintain that. And if it is that Smollett and these gentlemen did in some way perpetuate something that is not true, they ought to face accountability to the maximum.

    He added, however, the it was not a ‘left wing hoax’ like some had claimed on social media because even President Trump had condemned the incident.

  67. min

    Schadenfreude!!! I was watching question time today when PM ,I think, pointed out that Christmas Island is Australia. Phelps looked like death warmed up . She did not know, however as a trainee teacher in WA it was a place we could have been posted to back in the days they were still mining phosphate there.

  68. zyconoclast

    New York City to Ban Discrimination Based on Hair

    Under new guidelines to be released this week by the New York City Commission on Human Rights, the targeting of people based on their hair or hairstyle, at work, school or in public spaces, will now be considered racial discrimination.

    The change in law applies to anyone in New York City but is aimed at remedying the disparate treatment of black people; the guidelines specifically mention the right of New Yorkers to maintain their “natural hair, treated or untreated hairstyles such as locs, cornrows, twists, braids, Bantu knots, fades, Afros, and/or the right to keep hair in an uncut or untrimmed state.”

  69. struth

    if you have to invent right wing attacks what does that prove?
    There are no real ones .
    The violence always belongs to the left.

    Always, without fail.
    If it’s about politics , racism, etc, it is always, always without fail, started by the left.

  70. Des Deskperson

    ‘Thank heavens that great Cadbury’s gorilla ad was post Goodes and Harambe. It would never get a go these days.’

    Back in the late fifties, the then Fitzroy ‘Maroons’ VFL Cub – now the AFL Brisbane Lions – performing badly on the field and attracting only lumpenproles and losers as supporters, decided it needed to upgrade its image.

    Club management decided to rebadge the club as ‘the Gorillas’.

    It was bad move; opposition fans jeered at ‘the apes’ and on at least one occasion, rival supporters dressed up as monkeys and gorillas and capered and gibbered around the boundary fence.

    They very hastily rebadged as ‘the Lions’.

    Imagine the furore today if they had kept the old name.

  71. Nob

    Icke should declare himself an imam and he could preach the same stuff with state support.

  72. zyconoclast

    ‘Will buy pets for meat’

    At first glance, a classified ad looking for puppies and kittens might not seem all that unusual.

    Until you see the poster is willing to pay by the pound.

    In fact, it is not against the law to kill and eat your pets in Canada. It is only illegal to cause unnecessary suffering or slaughter them in a way that is deemed inhumane or results in distress.

  73. Empire 5:5

    I can’t find the tweet, but some loony white college grad broad in the US suggested it was still POTUS’s fault because Jussie was compelled to fake his lynching ‘cause oppression.

    4-6% – unsalvageable. Their DNA has been destroyed. They cannot operate logically.

  74. JC

    Young Americans will fight against socialism because they know their history.

    Bullshit.

    Americans, for the most part, are trash when it comes to history.

    According to a survey conducted by the Woodrow Wilson National Fellowship Foundation, only about 40% of the 41,000 Americans polled passed a test of basic U.S. history pulled from questions asked of those applying for citizenship.

    It’s even worse with the younger generation. A mere 27% of people under the age of 45 managed to answer 12 out of 20 questions correctly.

    I answer 17 right answers. That’s no biggie because I know a little about the country.

    Take the quiz, it’s a little hard at times, but most questions are well known.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a-shocking-number-of-americans-flunk-this-citizenship-test-can-you-do-better-2019-02-19?mod=cx_picks&cx_navSource=cx_picks&cx_tag=mw&cx_artPos=7#cxrecs_s

  75. old bloke

    “Vietnam – an epic tragedy” will inform the reader that the agreement was signed by the French, British, Chinese and Russians but NOT by either Vietnamese delegation, or the Americans – “Therein lay the basis for the later insistence of both Washington and Saigon that refusal to conduct national elections within the specified two year time frame was no breach of anything to which either had consented.” (Hastings, page 78)

    Going back further, “French Indochina” covered Laos, Cambodia, Cochinchina, Annan & Tonkin. The French granted independence to Cambodia & Laos, and labelled the other three states “Vietnam.” The people in Cochinchina (capital city Saigon, present day South Vietnam) didn’t want a union with Tonkin (present day North Vietnam) and they had no reason to take part in “national election” forced on it by external powers.

    They had every right to fight against the North Vietnamese to preserve their national identity and culture.

  76. Johno

    Myrddin Seren.
    Just read your post.Lots of questions. I will try to answer them.
    You have read my earlier post about nashos and SVN service and the opt-out.
    As stated I trained with 5RAR in Oz prior to going to SVN. I was regular army but every nasho told the same story about the opt out.
    I did not complete a full tour with 5RAR . I was wounded in action in late June and returned to australia.
    After Hospital and rehab I was passed fit and applied to return to SVN. I was posted to REO wing at Ingleburn.
    Whilst there I was given the job of escorting nashos into the CO’s office whilst they were asked the opt out question. None refused.
    In SVN I was posted to 6RAR.My platoon had lost a lot of men and were reinforced by ex 9RAR nashos who still had time to serve in SVN.When 6RAR returned to OZ I was posted to 8RAR.
    Now soldiers love to whinge and every time a nasho whinged about SVN I would ask them.”Why did you volunteer?”Not one ever denied volunteering.
    Now Bobby you said you searched the records of 4 battalions and couldn’t find any trace of these parades.
    I had experience with 4 of the 9 BTNS in SVN, every one of them remembered volunteering.
    Maybe you are a bit selective. You POGO.
    But you will go on a crusade, a lefty crusade,you will find blokes who cant remember their name let alone events from 50 bloody years ago.You will write your PHD thesis and it will be awarded by fellow travellers and another glass of Merlot with your commo mates will be yor reward.
    I utterly despise you.

  77. Empire 5:5

    You can call me a Neanderthal if you want, since for dinner I just had a nice hot bacon sandwich with harissa. I won’t be insulted.

    I’ll call you a gentleman with culinary taste.

  78. Fleeced

    if you have to invent right wing attacks what does that prove?

    When demand sufficiently exceeds supply, fakes are inevitable. Basic economics.

    The Left want to be victims; they want to feel justified in their outrage; they want to feel the addictive surge of righteous indignation. They want to be hated in order to justify their own hate. Their demands far exceed supply. They might not understand economics, but they’re still subject to its rules.

    There’s a reason we keep seeing these hoaxes – the fact that there are so many hoaxes is enough evidence that the real hate just isn’t there in the quantities they desire.

  79. pete m

    Numbers:

    We lost a daughter in 1982 through a congenital deformity

    That is tragic and despite the passage of years I imagine not a day goes by you do not remember her. Whether it related to time served in SVN will be impossible to know, and won’t make any difference to your girl. I would like to suggest anger is the opposite of what would help, but I’ve never been in that space so will not deign to advise you.

    James Clavell wrote a touching piece about his wife getting cancer from early X-Ray treatment and how she thanked the X-Ray technician for his care of her and to never feel bad for his part, as he was not to know of that effect.

    Love and compassion – the world would be different if lived as Jesus spoke.

  80. Gab

    Alright, who was the idiot that mentioned Vietnam and triggered old smary7305721632883? Hmm?

  81. Snoopy

    Did someone mention pho?

  82. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    chillout time

  83. Baldrick

    It’s been going on for days Gab. 😴 sigh!

  84. Gab

    Yeah, I noticed, Baldy. It’s the Never-Ending Whine.

  85. thefrollickingmole

    Oh. I must have imagined all those wingnut photoshops of the Obamas as apes or chimps then.

    Leading with the chin again…

    Heres a racist cartoon showing a US president as a monkey/ape and grossly distorting his natrual features to do so..

    So Racist…
    And he did it over and over again..

    Harktard

  86. egg_

    Saw Shen Yun tonight. Not as spectacular as I thought plus most of the dancing segments were similar.

    All Chinese dances look the same?
    And you’re hungry for more half an hour later?

  87. Mitch M.

    It’s been going on for days Gab.

    Happens so often here. Why try to start a new conversation when Harken and Numbers are dominating the OT?

  88. Mater

    Myrddin Seren
    #2939337, posted on February 20, 2019 at 5:15 pm

    Myrddin,
    I think that is a fair and feasible theory.
    CO’s are like Gods within their own realms and are generally pretty chummy. An informal arrangement to duck shove ‘undesirables’ around (like hot potatos) to avoid them deploying, is very possible. It would be beneficial to all parties and could very well have become standard practice/accepted practice.
    If all Battalion CO’s were in agreement, the Brigade hierarchy might well have turned a blind eye, too. After all, it’s within a CO’s remit to remove personnel for any number of reasons…and it’s wartime (which brings with it a certain amount of flexibility). It would be interesting to see if keen blokes were shipped in to fill these holes.
    My gut feel is that if it was a formal policy, there would have been an official form published and printed by the bucket load (like everything else in the Army). I’ve not seen such a form, completed or otherwise – although I’ve put no effort into looking, either.

  89. bespoke

    I hate when people use a personal tragedy for attention, money, a free pass or vendettas.

  90. thefrollickingmole

    Gab

    Amazingly enough, he did.

    Mmmmmm, pho…..

    If you are in perth this is a nice place for a great bowl.

  91. Pete of Perth

    The two MCs had the aura of evangelists gathering the heathens for salvation. Falung gong style.

  92. Empire 5:5

    There’s a reason we keep seeing these hoaxes – the fact that there are so many hoaxes is enough evidence that the real hate just isn’t there in the quantities they desire.

    It’s theatre to garner sympathy from middle of the road reasonable people who vote.

    The psephology of the 2016 US elections indicates women are far more usceptible to the ruse than men.

  93. calli

    Good luck with the show, Custard.

    The Beloved is making caravan purchasing noises, much to my horror. I’ve told him no camping, I only to glamping.

  94. Gab

    After years of camping in my early years, I now consider a 3 star hotel as camping.

  95. calli

    You got it in one, Gab!

    He tells me there’s a magnificent species of van with an en suite. Dual axle, pop top, sleeps two. Twenty footer. Air con, real stove, microwave, blah blah.

    Hmmmmmm. He lost me at “axle”.

  96. Nob

    13yo Collingwood barrackers in Australia know nothing of history let alone USA history and everything about big ugly opposition players.

  97. Peter Castieau

    Camping vs Glamping

    It’s a question I ask of customers often.

    “Waddy ya wanna do?”

    The ratio is about half and half believe it or not.

  98. JC

    Hark: mole – the fact a cartoonist can use the monkey insult against a white man does not detract from the fact that it has been used in clearly racist context against blacks.

    Climate Harkel

    No one cares anymore. Left wing wacist accusations are meaningless. You climate ghoul.

  99. Gab

    I dunno, Cali. That sounds like a fancy caravan and might be worth at least looking at.

  100. Gab

    Left wing wacist accusations are meaningless.

    True. And the only ones harping on about race is the Left. They can’t seem to let it go that black people are humans too.

  101. Tel

    Take the quiz, it’s a little hard at times, but most questions are well known.

    The American Revolution was started because of the financial crisis?

    FFS that’s a load of bullshit.

    Woodrow Wilson was a shit President, so hardly surprising his Woodrow Wilson National Fellowship Foundation makes a crap quiz.

  102. Fleeced

    chillout time

    Nah – let’s flashback to some 80s music, instead.

  103. Geriatric Mayfly

    Phelps looked like death warmed up .

    Should be written in the continuous present. She seems to make some effort with the facial tizzy; but looks as though she has escaped half way through an embalming procedure at the mortician’s.

  104. Tom

    After years of camping in my early years, I now consider a 3 star hotel as camping.

    Quite right, Gab. Three stars is bed bugs and bad service. I l loved camping beside the Great Ocean Road with my old man as a kid, but nowadays, if you can’t afford 4-5 star, you’re in the Third World.

  105. JC

    Climate harkel

    Who cares what the left think ?

  106. Eyrie

    Bloke I know won’t go camping. He says he got paid for it for years. Former US Marine.

  107. struth

    Oh. I must have imagined all those wingnut photoshops of the Obamas as apes or chimps then.

    Thanks frolicking mole, saved me a job.

    All people everywhere have been likened to monkeys by collectivists (racists) of all colours.
    What you fail to realise young man bun, is the left were the KKK, and to be a racist you have to be a collectivist.
    Of course racism exists now and it is terrible, but it’s your side doing it and they can’t help themselves.
    Unless you of course are saying all whites are racist, then tell me which ones actually were?

    If an individualist calls a white prick a monkey, or a black person a monkey, he is not being racist.
    He may be insulting, but there is a big difference.
    For to see the insulting remark as racist whenever it is uttered, is the want of the racist, especially , especially, especially when they only see racism when it is applied to the black man.
    Says more about the accusing lefty than can be put into words, but it’s projecting, and so typical of why you guys are so obsessed with racism.
    You’re racists.

  108. Tel

    As is usual, the claim “No one cares anymore” is just shorthand for “I don’t care, and my club here of fellow “history of racism” ignoramuses don’t either.”

    FIRST the left can clean up their massive hypocrisy problem, and start to live by the rules they pretend to believe in: not offending people, no death threats, no street violence, honesty, love and respect.

    THEN they get to make demands about how other people behave.

    Simple huh? Might take you a while, but that’s fine.

  109. struth

    Camped too much for work.
    See no point in it for fun.

    Sit around an open fire, cook a barbie, then go inside …………………………..

  110. Numbers miles down on last year. Something going on Victoriastan I’m unaware of?

    the beginning of a massive recession?

  111. Empire 5:5

    Martin Luther King Jr: Republican

    Robert Byrd: US Senator, Krooked Killary Klinton mentor and proud Klansman.

    The left love oppression.

  112. Pedro the Ignorant

    Sundowner time in the West.

    There is a 70cm bungarra sunning itself on a stump down the back. Poor fella looks like he needs a cool drink.

    I think I will join him.

    WA Bungarra.

  113. struth

    The amount of time in Australia you are going to get good conditions for camping is few and far between.

    Flies until dark, then mozzies and bugs, waters infested with crocs and sharks , too hot too cold, windy, sandstorms, wirlies blowing through your camp, feeling like shit the next day, and nice areas closed off to white people.
    Scorpions spiders and snakes, and bloody bull ants everywhere, ……………………….
    Other jerk Australians showing up, and etc etc.

    Stick it up your freckle.

  114. 1735099

    They had every right to fight against the North Vietnamese to preserve their national identity and culture.

    Perhaps, but it was bit more complicated than that.
    In my time in country, the people we were fighting were not North Vietnamese. They were D445 battalion, locals from what is now called Ba Ria/ Dat Do Province (called Phuoc Tuy in 1970).
    The North Vietnamese didn’t turn up in numbers there until 1972. Prior to that, there were Northerners involved at Long Tan in 1966, (274th and 275th Regiments of the VC 5th Division which comprised both South Vietnamese guerrillas and North Vietnamese regulars – McNeill & Ekins 2003, p. 45). There were also squads of northerners during Tet, but the local VC acted as guides for them, because they had no idea of the local conditions.
    I met a few ex D445 members at Dat Do on a visit with a group of 8 RAR veterans in 2006. They hailed from around that area, and their families had lived there for generations. They had fought the French as Viet Minh. Their stronghold (the Long Hais) had been a Viet Minh base in the day.
    I don’t think they cared whether they were fighting French, Americans or Australians. They believed they were fighting foreigners for their independence.
    Their understanding of national identity and culture is/was very different from the conventional western view of nationalism. It was more about family, village and community.
    I spent time in 2007 in the North. There are differences between the dour party apparatchiks in the North, and the more easy going people from coconut country. There is no neat equivalent, but the English/Scottish relationship has a similar flavour.

  115. struth

    Fharken.
    Answer this one question and you’ll see why you on the left are racist.
    If I call a white man a monkey but won’t call a black man one because I think that would be racist, am I a racist?

  116. Nick

    Bush Mc Chimpy Hitler. We just imagined it all.

  117. Tailgunner

    mh, Snoops&Cohenite, get in here!
    Dot – your take on the Jussie case, please.

  118. 1735099

    James Clavell wrote a touching piece about his wife getting cancer from early X-Ray treatment

    I don’t wish to know that.
    My wife starts 16 days of radiotherapy in a couple of weeks.

  119. 1735099

    “Vietnam – an epic tragedy” will inform the reader

    Great book. Here’s a review.

  120. Tailgunner

    “Feet always pointed at the next tarot Hollywood queer that needs a lesson in respecting MAGA country”
    LOL!!
    great stuff!

  121. thefrollickingmole

    Yup, absolutely no whites were ever pilloried as a race as apes…

    none whatsoever…

    Still a harktard.

  122. Black Ball

    Good evening. Without scrolling through the day’s posts, I see struth and Harken Now are engaged in some banter. Will have a look to see what set it off. Would be interesting reading.

  123. struth

    If you blame all whites for racism, are you a racist?

    Which whites were and are the racists?
    Can black people be racist, Asian, or is it just a trait for whites?
    Have whites ever suffered racism?

    And as long as government doesn’t see race, racism would not be a problem now would it?
    I believe it is imperative that government be absolutely unable to make laws based on race.
    How would things develop then, Fharken, just pretending we had more than twelve years left?

  124. Tailgunner

    “yappy Hollywood queer “

  125. Tailgunner

    Flies until dark, then mozzies and bugs, waters infested with crocs and sharks , too hot too cold, windy, sandstorms, wirlies blowing through your camp, feeling like shit the next day, and nice areas closed off to white people.
    Scorpions spiders and snakes, and bloody bull ants everywhere, ……………………….
    Other jerk Australians showing up, and etc etc.

    ‘STRAYA, nigga
    🙂

  126. Tailgunner

    Which whites were and are the racists?

    Struth, calm down please.
    We all are fervent Nazis now.
    Sieg Heil!
    Embrace, dude, it’s all good.

  127. Tom

    Struth, how many nights have you spent at the Heartbreak Hotel at Cape Crawford over the years?: One-star dive — essential to the Outback myth.

  128. Black Ball

    Mmmyes I see Adam Goodes was discussed. I also see someone upthread called him a rep***ant toad. An apt description. I recall reading Black Steam Train after this, he wrote something which kept reality in order. I will endeavour to link this article shortly.

  129. RobK

    Scorpions spiders and snakes, and bloody bull ants everywhere, ……………
    Ticks,you forgot ticks. Littlies and biggies. Oh, leaches and miggies. Otherwise, camping is fine.

  130. cohenite

    FMD:

    Australia’s largest coal producer, Glencore, will abandon the pursuit of large coal acquisitions and freeze production at current levels to help address climate change concerns following pressure from investors including major Australian superannuation funds for the fossil fuel to be phased out.

    The Swiss-based resources giant, headed by billionaire Ivan Glasenberg, says it will cap its global thermal and coking coal production at the current level of about 145 million tonnes after holding talks with the Climate Action 100+ initiative which controls $US32 trillion ($45tn) in global investment. Glencore’s Australian mines account for nearly 100m tonnes of its global volumes, underlining the impact it may have on major new mines being delivered in Queensland and NSW.

    Climate Action 100+ members in Australia include AustralianSuper, AMP Capital, Cbus, IFM Investors, QSuper and BT Financial Group.

    To deliver a strong investment case to our shareholders, we must invest in assets that will be resilient to regulatory, physical and operational risks related to climate change,” Glencore said in a statement today

  131. struth

    Struth, how many nights have you spent at the Heartbreak Hotel at Cape Crawford over the years?: One-star dive — essential to the Outback myth.

    Once. when driving a truck, so just camped in the truck.
    Stopped there many times for lunch with tour groups, they fly the chopper over the lost city.
    Mostly I’d go from there to 100 or so k’s east of the Barkly homestead and bush camp at a place called Barry’s cave, where an American soldier lost his life thereabouts during ww2 crossing from the Isa to the Stuart hwy to get to Darwin

  132. Tailgunner

    #HeelsUp Gunner
    Is it really Happening? This is THE time to be alive hahaha
    The god emperor can get his opponents to self-destruct.
    [email protected] @Sportsbet.
    Is a 255% in two years a good investment decision? Economy Cats, please chime in.

  133. Johno

    “In my time in country, the people we were fighting were not North Vietnamese. They were D445 battalion, locals from what is now called Ba Ria/ Dat Do Province (called Phuoc Tuy in 1970)”
    You complete and utter bullshit artist.
    I was in SVN before you and after you and most of the time we fought NVA, 33NVA Regiment to be exact.
    D445 used to feature in intel reports quite regularly. As in “they have reformed and are now a threat” D445 have disbanded”.
    Bobby 90% of the time I fought NVA.
    Were you there? Were you paying attention? Never heard of 275 Regiment?You halfwit.
    How can you make stupid comments like that?
    You are literally to stupid to argue with.

  134. Bruce of Newcastle

    My wife starts 16 days of radiotherapy in a couple of weeks.

    Best wishes for the radio. If you don’t mind I’ll pray for you both.

  135. Top Ender

    Should be fun:

    A high school student in the United States who was at the centre of a viral video controversy has launched a $350 million defamation case against the Washington Post.

    The complaint was filed in the US District Court for the Eastern District of Kentucky by well-known defamation lawyer L. Lin Wood on behalf of Covington Catholic High School student Nick Sandmann.

    “In order to fully compensate Nicholas for his damages and to punish, deter, and teach the Post a lesson it will never forget, this action seeks money damages in excess of $US250 million ($AU350 million) — the amount Jeff Bezos, the world’s richest person, paid in cash for the Post when his company, Nash Holdings, purchased the newspaper in 2013,” the complaint says.

    Oz

  136. Tailgunner

    Apologies for the lingo.
    Listening to GTAV radio.
    West Coast Classics.
    “ain’t no better breakfast than some old school beats”
    (J Poop.

  137. RobK

    the Climate Action 100+ initiative which controls $US32 trillion ($45tn) in global investment. 
    That’s a lot of string.

  138. struth

    Here’s a camping tip.

    Always check the weight restraining ability of the tree you are leaning back from to back one out.

    Just trying to be helpful.

  139. Tailgunner

    You are literally to stupid to argue with.

    Word

  140. Arky

    Is a 255% in two years a good investment decision? Economy Cats, please chime in.

    ..
    No.
    I’m back to thinking Tfump could be coming back, but still think he is less than a 50/50 chance.
    If he gets substantial wall done and the dems kept up the crazy shit, he could firm.

  141. Black Ball

    Seeing as though I apparently have a duplicate comment, which is rubbish seeing as though the first comment wasn’t published, do yourself a favour and read this.
    http://theblacksteamtrain.blogspot.com/2014/08/adam-goodes-ensuring-racism-as-sport.html?m=1

  142. Tekweni

    I think numbers should do a PhD on people who are so fixated on military service that they use their nom de plume is their old army number. I tried to remember my number but as I am not so fixated on my past service despite having to shout it out so many times during basic training. It would be a disturbing thesis.

  143. Arky

    If Ttump does have wall and gets re-elected, it will be an interesting 2nd term.
    He will probably concentrate on foriegn policy and be looking for a big legacy.

  144. Bruce of Newcastle

    Climate Action 100+ members in Australia include AustralianSuper, AMP Capital, Cbus, IFM Investors, QSuper and BT Financial Group.

    Madness of crowds.

  145. Rohan

    735099
    #2939360, posted on February 20, 2019 at 5:54 pm

    and tomorrow I fly interstate to visit a section mate dying with myeloma. Both blood cancer and congenital deformities are linked with exposure to dioxin.

    Bullshit. There is no link between Multiple Meyloma and dioxin. None. Zip. Sweet F.A.

    There is no known cause of this disease. My mother had it and the head oncologist told the three of us directly when we the diagnosis. I searched high and low to see what could be done and its possible causes and an old mate who is an oncologist.

    You’re mate isn’t dying because of his service to his country. He simply drew an unlucky hand like my poor mum.

  146. Tailgunner

    Arky.
    #NOBRAKES!
    of course the GE will get shorter.
    2 fiddy ain’t 8-10/1…
    But it’s the Sydney Airport call for 2020
    🙂
    #Gunner$$

  147. Arky

    You can only call white people apes, otherwise you are racist.
    I see…

  148. C.L.

    Trump respectfully corrects the record:

    Donald J. [email protected]

    I never said anything bad about Andrew McCabe’s wife other than she (they) should not have taken large amounts of campaign money from a Crooked Hillary source when Clinton was under investigation by the FBI.

    So that clears that up.
    He didn’t say anything bad about her; he simply pointed out she was a corrupt bag-woman.

  149. Tailgunner

    The Wall is the one.
    Scott Addams called this pre-9/16
    Classic Hollywood set-up.
    Hero meets “intractable problem ” act2
    Act3 Hero overcomes.
    Fin

  150. struth

    Tourists crapping in the bush, OMG.

    One quick story.
    Actually at Barry cave, bush night, perfectly still beautiful weather (rare) and I had a road coach with trailer.
    The coach itself was 40 ft long and we set the tables for dinner up along side the coach, perpendicular.

    Kept lighting to a minimum (bugs).

    A lady grabbed the shovel and dunny roll and with her very bright torch, headed straight out from the tables.
    We could see the torch , (all 50 people) head further out until she stopped and squatted to give birth to a big brown politician.
    She never turned the torch off.
    Instead she laid it along side her, placing herself between it’s beam and the coach.
    She was silhouetted nicely and everyone could see the birth, however, as people turned to look the other way, you could see the horrible shadow show on the big screen which was the side of the coach.

    I still have nightmares.

  151. Bruce of Newcastle

    I tried to remember my number

    Mine is inscribed into my brain, even though I only did a couple years in the reserves.
    Easier because it’s only 6 digits.
    I won’t give it out publicly in case others of ill intent have access to something more than a search engine.

  152. zyconoclast

    Burberry apologises for noose hoodie after model Liz Kennedy blasts fashion house for ‘triggering’ design

    Riccardo Tisci, Burberry’s creative director, also apologised, and said “while the design was inspired by a nautical theme, I realise that it was insensitive”.

  153. Oh come on

    The following was found plonked in the middle of some ABC News article about Trump:

    Want more analysis from Zoe? Here’s what to read next:

    Trump just waved a white flag of surrender (and Pelosi made him do it)

    The ‘dirty deeds’ fixer who said he’d take a bullet for Trump

    Trump’s fury is ‘bubbling behind the scenes’

    The President has plenty of reasons to be grumpy

    “Zoe” is of course Zoe Daniels, the ostensible journalist who is having a slow-motion meltdown in DC thanks to Trump. These four wacky pieces of “analysis” prove how deranged she’s become.

    Do the ABC sub-editors realise how insane their coverage of US politics looks these days?

  154. Tailgunner

    Trump IS the Entertainment Business.
    He knows this shizzl backwards.
    #Nobrakes
    #Nostops

  155. Mitch M.

    Multiple Meyloma

    There was a fascinating result recently with myeloma: injection of the equivalent of 10 million engineered measles vaccines that completely eliminated the cancer in a woman who had not responded to every other treatment.

    Bullshit. There is no link between Multiple Meyloma and dioxin. None. Zip. Sweet F.A.

    It is not conclusive and your sweeping dismissal suggests to me you haven’t examined the literature though it is unreasonable of me to expect you to have checked the latest research .

    Cancer Lett. 2019 Jan;440-441:135-144. doi: 10.1016/j.canlet.2018.10.009. Epub 2018 Oct 19.
    2,3,7,8-Tetrachlorodibenzo-p-dioxin (TCDD) induces peripheral blood abnormalities and plasma cell neoplasms resembling multiple myeloma in mice.

    …Even in wild-type C57BL/6 mice, TCDD increased serum IgG levels, induced anemia, and increased plasma cell presence in the spleen and bone marrow, hallmarks of benign monoclonal gammopathy. Lastly, TCDD induced AKT activation and the DNA damage response, key pathogenic events in myeloma pathogenesis, in animal spleen and/or bone marrow.

  156. hzhousewife

    My wife starts 16 days of radiotherapy in a couple of weeks.

    All the best for your wife’s challenge Numbers.
    I have made an acquaintance over the last year of an elderly lady whose morning walk crossed paths with mine, we comment on the weather and other people’s dogs. Today she clutched my arm and wanted to let me know that I would not see her again. Her breast cancer has reached her lungs and she just cannot get down the street any longer. She has acquired the services of private palliative care, refusing to enter the local hospital service. She assured me she was quite happy with her situation, and thanked me for the chats.
    Her name is Merryl and I will be saying a prayer for her too. Brave lady.

  157. Tailgunner

    the horrible shadow show on the big screen which was the side of the coach.

    Sheesh, it not that kind of blog, man.
    You have to provide mandatory, SFW eye bleach now!

  158. struth

    Answer the question Fharken.

  159. mh

    [email protected] @Sportsbet.
    Is a 255% in two years a good investment decision? Economy Cats, please chime in.

    Tailgunner, I would say keep your powder dry and just keep your eye on the market. There are bound to be events over the next two years where the media can all read out the memo “This could be the end for Trump”. Markets then overreact, like all markets.

  160. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mine is inscribed into my brain, even though I only did a couple years in the reserves.

    I’ve had two – was allocated the first 46 years ago, and still have both burned into my brain.

  161. Tailgunner

    “NSFW”
    can’t everyone watch pornhub in their workplace toilets if they wanna?
    Lol

  162. struth

    Trying to eat dinner.

    So were they.

  163. Tailgunner

    mh, thanks.
    Good point.
    Buy low, sell high
    That’s what Homer taught me.
    🙂
    But I’d put half my stake on now.

  164. Rae

    My wife starts 16 days of radiotherapy in a couple of weeks.

    I wish your wife well for the very best possible result from her treatment.

  165. Black Ball

    I see that My Kitchen Rules have all white contestants. Is this racist Harken? The main dish was kangaroo also. Cultural appropriation Harken? FMD.

  166. Black Ball

    Of course they can Tailgunner, provided they wash their hands 18 times afterwards. And a change of clothing.

  167. Tailgunner

    “This could be the end for Trump”

    Haha – does anyone remember the Billy Bush tape?!
    Stormy Daniels? WB.
    Trolling McCain.
    All the other shit?
    Lol!
    Now we have Jussie. And AL Sharpton pinned&calling for the max on his mate.
    Are the Normies entertained?
    Hilarious -ness cubed.
    The normies are getting red pilled. Slowly though.
    We’ve got a ways to Fall first.

  168. Rockdoctor

    Take the quiz, it’s a little hard at times, but most questions are well known.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a-shocking-number-of-americans-flunk-this-citizenship-test-can-you-do-better-2019-02-19?mod=cx_picks&cx_navSource=cx_picks&cx_tag=mw&cx_artPos=7#cxrecs_s

    15/20 for me. Was on the fence with one and baulked the wrong way other ones wrong didn’t have a clue. Didn’t realise I knew so much about US History. There you go…

  169. mh

    Tailgunner, only put money on now if you have some spare cash that you think you might otherwise waste.

  170. Snoopy

    #Nobrakes
    #Nostops
    #HeelsUp

  171. Tailgunner

    And a change of clothing.
    Dude, CFMEU only get J. Setka (Who?!) White Ribbon anniversary embossed toilet rolls!
    I’m going to see Denis tomorrow morning.

  172. Tailgunner

    Errr…
    Denis the shop steward.

  173. Oh come on

    When Zoe Daniels landed in DC after accepting her assignment, the first thing she said was ‘I was told there’d be cocktail parties’, but she’s never got a single invite. I don’t think she can recover from the snub.

  174. Tailgunner

    only put money on now if you have some spare cash that you think you might otherwise waste.

    Arma, get in here and confront this defeatist betting strategy, pronto.

  175. struth

    Holy shit.
    I watched Richo for five minutes.

    My gawd……………………..
    Some lefty knob on there trying to explain how outside influence from you guessed it, the USA, has killed Venezuela……………………………………………not that you wouldn’t expect it.

  176. mh

    zyconoclast
    #2939392, posted on February 20, 2019 at 6:37 pm

    Zycon, do you know how Al Sharpton made it into politics and the media? By doing something ten times more sickening than Jussie Smollett.

    Watch the Tucker Carlson editorial on page one. Sharpton has never apologised, either.

  177. 1735099

    Bullshit. There is no link between Multiple Meyloma (sic) and dioxin. None. Zip. Sweet F.A.

    There is a definitive association which has been in the literature for years.

  178. Rohan

    Mum died 4 years ago. Her diognosis was 8 years ago. Yes, I haven’t read up on this in over 4 years. But i did do a quick googling on MM before posting. Still no known cause. On that basis, theres currently zero proven link between MM and dioxins in humans.

    That paper states those mice developed MM like leasions. It didnt state it was definitively MM.

    I’m not saying theres no possibility that it wont be discovered, but at this point in time, theres no known link. Numbers was linking his mates loosing battle with MM to his Nasho service, therefore its the governments fault.

  179. urb

    Trumpnado @ 2.55 over 2 years is easy worth a grand on the nose

  180. mh

    Tailgunner, I’m giving you advice on value. If you can hang on to your money put it on later when the odds get out.

    Think of Nathan Rothschild, my friend.

  181. Cassie of Sydney

    The Australian has a story on Nick Sandmann, uploaded tonight…”MAGA teen Nick Sandmann launches $350 million defamation suit against The Washington Post.

    No comments allowed. Hmmm wonder why?

    Is there a threat of legal action here? Against the ABC?

    Hope so….the ABC coverage was disgraceful.

  182. RobK

    Struth,
    the horrible shadow show on the big screen 
    When i was a kid, our neighbour was an old PMG linesman. He told of one of the crew at a bush camp who went to twist one out late one evening. Another guy snuck around behind him with a long handled shovel and removed the evidence undetected, before he turned to evaluate his effort . Apparently the victim was quite and unsettled for days.

  183. Rohan

    Didn’t say there was no link between cancer and dioxins dickhead, just that there was zero proven link with MM.

    Capiche?

  184. Tailgunner

    Bernie?
    Nope.
    Civil War2 gets closer, but he can’t win.
    Demography though.
    Soon, even the god emperor couldn’t beat the Socialists.

  185. Rockdoctor

    Australia’s largest coal producer, Glencore, will abandon the pursuit of large coal acquisitions and freeze production at current levels to help address climate change concerns following pressure from investors including major Australian superannuation funds for the fossil fuel to be phased out.

    Know they have put on a few Geologists recently and poached some from Peabody in Central Queensland. The rest of the article doesn’t surprise me. The amount of green & red tape in Queensland is now insane. Coal Board medical (paid by employers) is at 28 pages when I last did it & that was up from a third of that the previous time done. That is without the looming madness of a Shorten Government adding stuff like trying to estimate emissions from an open cut when coal vary in small areas widely with amount of gas held in the seam and permeability. Like trying to carry water in a sieve…

  186. Nick

    No comments allowed. Hmmm wonder why?

    Fairfax does, with most, if not all comments in favour of the boy.

  187. 1735099

    You complete and utter bullshit artist.

    You need to settle down and actually read what I post.
    You wrote – Were you there? Were you paying attention? Never heard of 275 Regiment?You halfwit.

    I wrote –

    Prior to that, there were Northerners involved at Long Tan in 1966, (274th and 275th Regiments of the VC 5th Division which comprised both South Vietnamese guerrillas and North Vietnamese regulars – McNeill & Ekins 2003, p. 45).

    You are literally to stupid to argue with.

    I don’t:)

  188. Tailgunner

    Think of Nathan Rothschild, my friend.

    Oh dear.
    Love it!
    Cassie, get in here

  189. Oh come on

    Those odds are tempting, Gunner. I’m not a betting man but I’d have a flutter solely on the basis that Trump’s the incumbent and the incumbent usually wins.

  190. Mark A

    RobK
    #2939551, posted on February 20, 2019 at 9:06 pm

    Oops quiet not quite.

    It made sense anyway, if you disregard the ‘and’ as a missed edit .

  191. Leigh Lowe

    And the sewer flows on.
    Day and night.
    Night and day.
    Ole man sewer.

  192. Oh come on

    No, mh. The crazier the Dem primary contenders get, the shorter the odds on Trump get. And the Dem contenders are about to get a buttload crazier.

  193. Tailgunner

    . If you can hang on to your money put it on later when the odds get out.

    Not the worst advice I’ve ever heard. But what will He get out to?
    Guesstimate is allowed.
    I say not much further. At the mo it’s speculation about if he won’t even run.
    Extending his “fair value”
    2.55 is close to the top.
    “Experts” haven’t really learnt shit since Trump. Except how to take a beating.
    He’s using long range stand off weapons against any possible opposition. That are hitting targets more often than not. Hi,Elizabeth Warren!
    Now others are self destructing.
    Creepy Uncle Joe vCreepy Uncle Bernie
    Ahahahaha

  194. Black Ball

    Cassie the Washington Post are in some rather hot water. But if this lawyer was serious, he would add CNN to this disgrace. Suing Nathan Phillips might not accrue much, he needs to be smote. I am of the belief that young Sandmann needn’t go through the indoctrination of college. Winning as President Trump eloquently described.

  195. 1735099

    Capiche?

    Go back and read the studies.
    MM, in layman’s terms, is blood cancer.

  196. Tailgunner


    The Australian has a story on Nick Sandmann, uploaded tonight…”MAGA teen Nick Sandmann launches $350 million defamation suit against The Washington Post.

    Nick is a Trumpian.
    And embodies our best instincts here in the Cat house.
    Always be escalating FTW

  197. Myrddin Seren

    BB

    I am of the belief that young Sandmann needn’t go through the indoctrination of college.

    I hope Sandmann, his family and any of his classmates that were individually smeared make millions in damages.

    No matter what the reality of the incident, his life changed forever in those minutes.

    College admissions departments in the States are basically failed gender studies majors with zero career prospects and a license to use admission approvals to shape the revolution.

    I doubt Sandmann or his classmates will be accepted at any worthwhile college in the continental North America.

    They are going to need a pile of money and to relocate.

  198. Tailgunner

    In my Cassandra opinion,
    Mick Obama is the only Black Swan event I can foresee.

  199. Snoopy

    Is there a threat of legal action here? Against the ABC?

    Hope so….the ABC coverage was disgraceful.

    I want to see that smirking beta Michael Rowland reduced to turning tricks in the ABC Southbank loading dock.

  200. Fisky

    You’d want to take that bet on Trump now, and then hedge on whichever Dem seems to be winning the debates just before Iowa.

  201. DrBeauGan

    I dimly recall reading Black Steam Train on the goodes affair. I’d like to see it again, if you can dig it up, Black Ball.

    BST is a great bloke. I wanted him to join the Çat. He belongs here.

  202. Tailgunner

    MAGA teen”

    In 2015,did you ever think you’d be hearing this kinda stuff?
    Lol.
    Nick, respect man. I love ya.
    #MAGA

  203. Black Ball

    Correct Myrddin Serena. That germ David Hogg of Florida school shooting infamy was admitted to Harvard University I believe, despite a lower entrance score. Would love to see Sandmann debate Hogg.

  204. Boambee John

    Tel
    #2939450, posted on February 20, 2019 at 7:35 pm
    As is usual, the claim “No one cares anymore” is just shorthand for “I don’t care, and my club here of fellow “history of racism” ignoramuses don’t either.”

    FIRST the left can clean up their massive hypocrisy problem, and start to live by the rules they pretend to believe in: not offending people, no death threats, no street violence, honesty, love and respect.

    Indeed, Alinsky, make them live up to their own rules.

  205. JC

    Saw a funny Clive Palmer ad today.

    It was a huge ad on the side of a building on a busy road.

    There was a pic of big fat Clive with a caption

    Make Australia Great Again

    The Gr in great had been painted out.

  206. Black Ball

    Now you can slap me. Seren.

  207. Black Ball

    Good Doctor Beaugan I am endeavouring to find it. The one I linked earlier was good, but the other one eviscerated the media on not reporting on a death of a young boy in a remote area.

  208. Tailgunner

    Fisk, stop talking in the third and get your damn homestead on TrumpTrain2020.
    #Nobrakes!
    🙂

  209. Oh come on

    It’s strange how trolls like Numbers flock here to ride out their life crises. Really very strange. Maybe we should charge them for services rendered.

  210. Tailgunner

    TAB is offering 2.75, an

    Bamm!!
    I haven’t checked in a couple days.
    Can I get that at a machine at the pub? Or online only?

  211. Myrddin Seren

    HILLARY ALUMNI SWIPE AT BERNIE AS HE LAUNCHES 2020 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN

    Run, Hillary, Run !!

    Unleash her on the Democrat wannabes and the destruction will be awesome to behold.

  212. mh

    Online only in Qld.

    Not sure about other states.

  213. zyconoclast

    Queensland mum admits killing toddler Mason Lee

    She was sentenced on Wednesday to nine years in jail and must serve at least a third before she can be released on parole.

    Mason died five days after the blow, aged 22 months.

    She also pleaded guilty to child cruelty after failing to get her son treatment for serious leg and anus injuries about five months before his death.

    Lee left Mason at O’Sullivan’s place after storming off after a fight in which he threatened violence.

    “You knew that O’Sullivan was a drug user,” Justice Jean Dalton said.

    “You knew that he had been violent to you.

    “You knew that your children would run into their bedrooms when he visited your house.

    “You knew that he was prone to extreme outbursts of anger and he was jealous and possessive and controlling.”

    INJURIES AND MEDICAL CONDITIONS IN MASON LEE’S SHORT LIFE

    Cellulitis – likely caused by an insect bite that became infected.
    Prolapsed anus – likely due to internal pressure from abdominal passage or large, hard stools.
    Jacquet’s dermatitis – a rare form of nappy rash.
    Fractured leg – caused Mason to limp, likely caused by child’s play.
    Constipation
    Abscess
    Mouth ulcers
    Perforated duodenum (a segment of the small intestine) – caused death after vomiting, abdominal pain, fever. People who saw him described him as pale, looking unwell and having dark eyes staring blankly.
    Peritonitis – inflammation of the membrane lining the abdominal wall.
    Septicemia – allowed faecal matter to fatally contaminate his bloodstream.
    Fractured coccyx – found in autopsy. Prosecution speculated was caused by kicking.
    Bruises – caused by fingertips to forehead, jaw, chest and abdomen.

  214. zyconoclast

    Bob Katter to run CFMEU candidates in marginal Queensland coal seats

    Maverick Queensland MP Bob Katter has recruited two disgruntled union members to run against Labor at the federal election, seizing on a rupture over the Adani coal mine that has left Opposition Leader Bill Shorten exposed in the key battleground state.

  215. pete m

    Numbers, the XRay story was from decades ago, when the tech on scans was a little less careful.

  216. Oh come on

    Michelle won’t throw her hat into the ring until 2024. That’s my take.
    Trump is too much of a wildcard for her to blow her shot on. As an opponent, Trump is a tar baby. You’re only going to get dirty if you take him on. I actually think the Obamas would be happy for Trump to be re-elected in 2020 so that Michelle can be the Dem heir apparant in 2024, rather than have to battle through the 24,000 Dem contenders in 2020.

    Now, if I’m right, Obama’s fabled political machine will play a bit part in the 2020 election.

  217. mh

    That Democrat field doesn’t look flash.

    If you expand the market on my link above you’ll see Ted Cruz @ 251.00

    Ant, get in here!

  218. Tailgunner

    It’s strange how trolls like Numbers flock here to ride out their life crises
    Monty, get in here with the medical update, pronto.
    Someone upthread/old thread I think said that they come for the FOS.
    I agree with that. But then get no further.
    Leftism is a mental illness? Another Cat figured this too.
    How do you fight a war against zombies?
    They will never learn. Plugged in to the Matrix.

  219. Leigh Lowe

    mhc

    #2939572, posted on February 20, 2019 at 9:30 pm

    Tailgunner, the TAB is offering 2.75, and that was the first bookie I checked.

    The field is yuuuge.
    Mostly Democrats.
    The first Republican appears 10th at $31 (Mike Pence) with Nikki Haley 12th at $41.
    Hillary and Bargearse Obumbi both at $67.

  220. Frank

    I want to see that smirking beta Michael Rowland reduced to turning tricks in the ABC Southbank loading dock.

    So I’m not the only one then. Good.

  221. zyconoclast

    Nick is a Trumpian.
    And embodies our best instincts here in the Cat house.
    Always be escalating FTW

    Nick is better than a Trumpian.

    I bet he would have built the wall by now.

  222. Nick

    Michelle won’t throw her hat into the ring until 2024. That’s my take.
    Trump is too much of a wildcard for her to blow her shot on. As an opponent, Trump is a tar baby. You’re only going to get dirty if you take him on. I actually think the Obamas would be happy for Trump to be re-elected in 2020 so that Michelle can be the Dem heir apparant in 2024, rather than have to battle through the 24,000 Dem contenders in 2020.

    Add to that:
    1. He wouldn’t be easy to beat, and
    2. Hillary will be way too old by then.

  223. Nick

    I want to see that smirking beta Michael Rowland reduced to turning tricks in the ABC Southbank loading dock.

    Shit yeah. In arseless chaps getting flogged by a large bloke in leather. Hang on, that’s his normal weekend

  224. Tailgunner

    Ant, get in here

    Damn you, I’ve been trying wangle a Count Chokula/ant call out in for ages!
    😀 😀

  225. Myrddin Seren

    2. Hillary will be way too old by then.

    Yes. If she was human.

    ( Another consignment of fresh virgins smuggled across the border for draining and distillation ).

  226. Overburdened

    The echo chamber effect and the parlour games that mean fuck all about the issue and everything about the egos of the players is same as it ever was.
    Later

  227. Cactus

    On the topic of bush bathroom antics, i could never get over a story from a mate who did a rafting trek in Tassie. They were told they had to collect their droppings in a bag and store them on the raft, disposing of them several days later outside the park. I just started laughing and said “did you?” He wasnt laughing. I then roared with laughter. Offensively loud. Asked him whether he had heard the phrase “Does a bear…”

  228. John Constantine

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/vandals-graffiti-metoo-statue-iconic-kiss-hours-wwii-sailor-dies-004519514.html?fbclid=IwAR3-zMTMH0kOrPFK5yIu_kvuZZLsI4J-694NO3dOBHA37zEloMCQcLxPwJA

    activists call for the removal of the sexual assault statue of the sailor kissing the nurse on victory over Japan day.

    Although nowadays, three quarters of the current gonorrhea epidemic in australian gay men is diagnosed as spread by saliva from pashing.

    https://emen8.com.au/health/fitness_and_body/prep-for-stis-is-biomedical-sti-prevention-within-our-reach/

  229. Cactus

    I don’t bet on anything over 4 weeks away. Why have your capital tied up with a bookie? Not worth it.

  230. duncanm

    Qld floodwaters about to cross into SA down the Diamantina: sat pic

  231. John Constantine

    Some cats are unsettled by links to the above sites, but this one matters because of the push for antibiotics to be used after parties as a method of preventing STI.

    Now aids is no longer a death sentance, the sti rate is booming. Recreational lifestyle use of antibiotics is not the answer, and random haphazard levels of antibiotics in the systems of selfmedicating intoxicated people is asking to breed antibiotic resistance.

    https://emen8.com.au/health/fitness_and_body/prep-for-stis-is-biomedical-sti-prevention-within-our-reach/

  232. MatrixTransform

    Something going on Victoriastan I’m unaware of?

    that feeling you get when you mis-step at the top of stairs and you just know … somehow … this is really gonna hurt

  233. DrBeauGan

    Black Ball
    #2939573, posted on February 20, 2019 at 9:32 pm
    Good Doctor Beaugan I am endeavouring to find it. The one I linked earlier was good, but the other one eviscerated the media on not reporting on a death of a young boy in a remote area.

    The one you posted was indeed good, Black Ball. He’s an intelligent and thoughtful man.

  234. 2dogs

    If I call a white man a monkey but won’t call a black man one because I think that would be racist, am I a racist?

    A better example: if I will intervene to stop a white man hitting his white wife in public, but won’t intervene to stop a black man hitting his black wife in public, am I a racist?

  235. rickw

    The Australian has a story on Nick Sandmann, uploaded tonight…”MAGA teen Nick Sandmann launches $350 million defamation suit against The Washington Post.

    Nick will be a lawsuit billionaire by the time he finished with MSM.

  236. Leigh Lowe

    I want to see that smirking beta Michael Rowland reduced to turning tricks in the ABC Southbank loading dock.

    The phrase was “pure evil” I believe.
    Will probably cost the ABC (ie us) a bundle.
    But Rowland won’t cop it.
    He will probably get a Walkley as a “fuck you”.

  237. Geriatric Mayfly

    I want to see that smirking beta Michael Rowland reduced to turning tricks in the ABC Southbank loading dock.

    Him and a number of others. But the pity of it is, any damages levelled against them will not come out of their pockets. The taxpayer will stump up on behalf of the ABC.

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