Wednesday Forum: February 20, 2019

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  1. Snoopy

    Although nowadays, three quarters of the current gonorrhea epidemic in australian gay men is diagnosed as spread by saliva from pashing.

    Pashing what?

  2. DrBeauGan

    A better example: if I will intervene to stop a white man hitting his white wife in public, but won’t intervene to stop a black man hitting his black wife in public, am I a racist?

    Not necessarily. For a start, it’s only racist if you are white. And a refusal to intervene in the second case would simply be a recognition that your middle class white privilege allows you to interfere against the white man because wife beating is taboo in middle class white culture, but may be perfectly acceptable in black culture, and who are you to judge?

  3. DrBeauGan

    A better example: if I will intervene to stop a white man hitting his white wife in public, but won’t intervene to stop a black man hitting his black wife in public, am I a racist?

    I wouldn’t intervene in either case. One bloke did and got bashed by the wife.

  4. Leigh Lowe

    Snap Mayfly.
    Not only will it not hit their pockets personally, they will get a special Walkerley “speaking troof to power” gong.

  5. MatrixTransform

    Black Steam Train

    yep, I remember that. He kicked a goal there. Was awesome

  6. Leigh Lowe

    On the subject of US Presidential betting markets, we should remember that this time four years ago, Trump was 1000/1 to make it to the Republican convention.
    The Republican convention to select a candidate to be thrashed by Hilary Clinton.

  7. John Constantine

    Something going on in victoria?.

    Their crony andrews kleptocracy has just bought 800 semiautomatic assault rifles in 5.56 to equip a paramilitary death squad to target enemies of the State. We are not talking the apex gang or the returning jihadis here, but the pale stale blokes driving their trucks back from the charity Burrumbuttock Hay Runners flood relief convoy better hope the ammo for the death squad don’t turn up before they return home.

    Once bollards and lawfare are not enough to protect those lording over the ‘Cheerful Squalor’ of yarragrad, we can guess the private predictions of the near future coming across State desks aint real glowing.

    Comrades.

  8. struth

    2dogs and Dr BG.
    Again do not give them wriggle room.
    He won’t answer the question.
    Stick on the question.
    If we are here at all we are here for the lurkers.
    they are not as dumb as our trolls.
    Let them see the spectacle of leftism in all it’s dishonesty and denial.
    We’re not here to preach to the converted.
    We need to use our trolls, which is what we have done very well today.

  9. struth

    You’re a good lad, tailgunner.
    One day I want to meet you.

    You remind me of my son, who is busy spending his weekends in the reserves (going to Puckapunyal this weekend) and saving to get married to a good looking yet suspect kiwi chick.
    She keeps the house clean.
    My job now is to make sure he doesn’t roll over for his tummy rub.
    You have a weakness for women.
    tell yourself you don’t need them.
    Seriously.
    Get on with your life and make it interesting.
    They’ll come flocking.
    Thank me later.

  10. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Fantastic piece there, Black Ball. I think many Australians in their hearts still have a great sense of outrage over what happened to that little girl. I know I do. I guess that much is obvious. Good to see that my feelings are reinforced by the supportive comments on that BST thread where people obviously feel the same way. Multiply those by millions, and there is a real story that should be recorded, updated and told in full.

    MV not here tonight? With his Marilyn, I expect.
    Last night I mentioned I checked up on some old acquaintance, an impulse, using Google and finding obituaries for all three, as all in their way were somewhat public figures. I did not know that any of them had died; all dead for more than five years. I just hadn’t heard, or looked.

    Two were people I worked with, and they both died too young; the third, who was my lover, changed my life. I haven’t seen him nor he me in any iteration of myself since after I was just eighteen. He was twelve years older than me and we parted ways soon enough. We first met when he offered to share his sandwich with me on a beach, as I clearly was very hungry and needed it more than he did, a fact that he observed with his mockingly understanding smile. He was later to tell me I was like the new moon and that I had pre-Raphaelite hands when they peeked over the bedcovers. He was an artist, a painter and sketcher, and a good one. He sketched me often, in charcoal, in Degas ballet poses.

    I still have one photograph of him, which I treasure. I am not in it, for I never attended any functions or parties with him. I was so very wrong in every way for him in those days. In it he has his arm around some other girl, far more sophisticated looking than me, a tall brunette. He told me tenderly later, after some months, that he intended to marry her and that I would get over it, that I was young and had my life ahead of me; which was all true but no comfort at the time. I was simply, only briefly, his muse.

    I know nothing more really about his life except that he continued to have artistic successes, and had children. I couldn’t find any recent photographs of him or his life, in fact none at all, recent or not, but I did manage to chase through to a site showing his daughter. Two photographs, of an adult young woman, working in an artistic field. The exact same facial structure that I recalled, like seeing him all over again, no high cheekbones, a strong but set-back face, those same lips in a half smile, androgynous Mona Lisa lips, and her face, like his, framed with dark hair. The second photograph, as they sometimes can, had captured the moment of a turning gaze, eyes in their subtle flashing depth, as if down the hallway as I recalled it whenever I arrived and he led me to his studio. I was stunned at seeing again that slightly humorous come hither, for he laughed so much at the world and its ways in a manner I had never come across before. I realized last night that I have carried that glance of his around with me for most of my life, seen here in exact replica in his daughter. It seemed he was teasing me once more from across the chasm of death, as he often did in life. I do not think I will view those particular photographs again, for it seems too invasive of his daughter’s privacy to farewell her father more than once, as I knew him, in this proxy fashion.

    The dead must keep to themselves, but in your children shall you be known and seen.

  11. BrettW

    Been busy catching up with the threads. Missed this one from yesterday where JC explained how faggot, in his usage, does not refer to gay people. This was after somebody had pointed out Sinc does not approve of its usage in that way.

    JC
    #2938396, posted on February 19, 2019 at 4:36 pm
    Sinc possibly doesn’t like the term applied to gay people. That’s understandable as it’s a slur. However, I use the term to describe the Rooster as per the Urban Dictionary.

    In these times not really used if somebody is really a homosexual mostly used instead of calling somebody stupid or a loser”

    So it means according to JC “stupid or loser”

    Naturally I Googled Urban Dictionary and this is what it says :

    There are a number of different meanings for the word faggot, so try reading them and you might learn something:
    1 A type of food; it is made from a pig’s heart, liver and the fat belly meat, minced and mixed together with breadcrumbs and herbs for seasoning. The mixture is then shaped into balls each of which is wrapped in caul fat from the pig’s omentum, each of these individual balls is a faggot. They are then cooked and served in a thick gravy with peas and mashed potatoes.
    2 The traditional English name for a bouquet garni (the cooking one not the Urban Dictionary one), a bundle of herbs consisting of bay leaf, thyme and parsley tied together and used as seasoning.
    3 A disparaging name for an old and slatternly woman.
    4 A bundle of sticks tied together and used as fuel.
    5 A disparaging name for a gay man, used mostly in the United States and often abbreviated to fag.

    None of the above fits with what JC said.

    Yet another example of his lies. He will even falsely cite a dictionary if it helps him score points. I think most people know what it most common usage refers to notwithstanding his pathetic attempts to deny it.

    Plenty more to cover over the droppings by the Twister in Chief in past few days but have to sign off now as gotta get up early tomorrow.

  12. Snoopy

    Their crony andrews kleptocracy has just bought 800 semiautomatic assault rifles in 5.56

    It seems a very weird choice to me. I would have thought a mix of proper sniper rifles for stand off work combined with semi auto shot guns or even submachine guns for use inside buildings would be more effective.

    In my opinion 800 semiautomatic assault rifles in 5.56 wielded by black clad, body armoured, balaclava wearing poorly trained cops are only suitable for terrorising restive citizens.

  13. max

    Numbers miles down on last year. Something going on Victoriastan I’m unaware of?

    It’s the road tolls. Nobody can afford to go out any more.

  14. struth

    Good onya Lizzie.
    That’s respect.
    I once had a lover with the most gorgeous eyes.
    I would stare at her in bed and let myself be consumed by her angelic face.
    She died in a roll over coming back to Alice Springs from the rock, and they asked me to sing her favourite song at the funeral.
    I wasn’t up to that, for no one knew we were lovers.

  15. struth

    I’d also like to meet you one day, Lizzie.
    I would remove my hat.

  16. John Constantine

    Seems vikpols submission to the royal commission into violence against women has been picked up by the opposition.

    Want to give vikpol the right to reveal criminal history of men to women curious about them. But not the criminal or mental health records of women to men.

    Dunno about same sex couples criminal history either.

  17. MatrixTransform

    seems male = criminal

    so why the pretense?

  18. mh

    Donald J. Trump
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    “The Washington Post ignored basic journalistic standards because it wanted to advance its well-known and easily documented biased agenda against President Donald J. Trump.” Covington student suing WAPO. Go get them Nick. Fake News!

  19. Bruce in WA

    A bit more on the AR-15s bought by VICPOL”

    Victorian Police don’t need 800 AR-15s
    in LATEST UPDATES FROM THE SHOOTERS UNION CAMPAIGNERS, Victoria 20th February 2019 0 419 Views

    Victoria Police are tooling up in a big way to fight a largely imaginary enemy, it seems, following news they are acquiring 800 .223 calibre AR-15s, ostensibly to “combat terrorism.”

    We believe Victoria Police have failed the genuine need test in this case. What, exactly, do they need 800 AR-15s for? And “Combating Terrorism” isn’t a valid answer.

    Australia is a safe country and while we must never be complacent, there simply has never been a large scale terrorist attack in the country since the 1978 Sydney Hilton Hotel bombing, and AR-15s would be completely useless in that sort of scenario anyway.

    There is no doubt specialist units and armed offender response teams require specialist equipment including semi-auto longarms, and we are not for a moment suggesting they should not have access to them.

    But your average police officer, however, simply doesn’t need an AR-15. They don’t need one in the boot of their patrol car, they don’t need a gun cabinet full of them at their local station, and the Victorian Police force certainly doesn’t need 800 of them.

    Just to put that number in perspective: 800 AR-15s are enough to equip literally an entire battalion of soldiers and still have plenty left over.

    Is Victoria planning to secede from Australia? Are they expecting a military invasion? No? Then what on Earth justifies having 800 AR-15s In police station gun racks across the state?

    Then you put this into a comparison with the bloke who shot an intruder, who had already fired shots into his house, and broken in, in company, with the fact the homeowner has been charged with unlawful wounding while the crims have been charged with recklessly discharge a firearm! They were shooting into the house, FFS! “Reckless” my hairy white arse!

  20. Splatacrobat

    What about the gender work hours gap?
    What an absolute shower.
    It’s no wonder respected economists treat WGEA as the greatest joke going. On their own turf they can produce rubbish statistics and falsehoods because they are an unaccountable QANGO full of innumerate ideologues.
    Under some very basic questioning ( the like of which many people have been putting to WGEA for years) and they collapse like a flan in a cupboard.

    How embarrassing it is to have the head of the organisation flounder and fluff around and clearly showing they are making it up as they go along. If there was any doubt this organisation should be wound up, shut down, and the earth salted on the ground that it stands, it is this demonstration in Senate Estimates. This Empress has no clothes.

  21. JC

    Don’t believe Glencore is suddenly going green or its CEO , Ivan Glassenberg, is suddenly morphing into Bob Brown. It’s all bullshit meant to drive up expected return.

    With Glencore having possibly best coal assets in the world and the expectations that coal demand in the Asia will double, this is the strategy Glassenberg is following.

    Second, there’s the more tangible benefits that could flow to Glencore as a result of its new coal position.

    The company has spent billions snapping up coal assets in Australia from companies like Rio Tinto that had decided they didn’t want to be involved in coal any more. Glencore was already the nation’s biggest coal producer, and as a result of those deals it has cornered what are arguably the best assets in the global coal industry.

    Just three months ago, Glencore detailed its expectations that coal demand in Asia would more than double by 2040 and that the quality of Australian coal meant its market share would continue to grow.

    Assuming those forecasts are accurate — and Glencore’s record in picking commodity markets is second to none — its commitment to capping its coal output would see markets tighten and prices rise markedly.

    Glencore’s world-class collection of coal assets means it would be the best-placed company to expand production should any gap in supply and demand emerge. Its new green focus means it has now ruled out doing that, but it will instead just sit on its hands and profit handsomely should coal markets ever tip into undersupply.

    This may be less of a Road to Damascus-style conversion into Switzerland’s answer to David Suzuki, but yet another example of Glencore finding a clever and profitable solution to problems.

    I think there’s more to this. If Glencore is able to cap the ability of new mines being opened by making it socially unacceptable to start up new operations, they are in they are in the hot seat to make an absolute bundle.

    Glassenberg is one of the smartest, ratty businessmen to have ever existed.

  22. struth

    VCic Police are arming up for the revolution.
    Not ours, theirs.

  23. struth

    Glencore, operating within socialism to make a profit.
    Who could blame them?

  24. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    VCic Police are arming up for the revolution.
    Not ours, theirs.

    VicPol arming themselves to overthrow the Andrews Government, and go back to being responsible for the preservation of law and order in Victoria?

  25. RobK

    JC,
    they are in the hot seat to make an absolute bundle.

    …..and pickup “stranded assests” for a song, should there be a dip in the spot price, enough to hurt smaller players. They are a force to be reckoned with.

  26. JC

    Glencore, operating within socialism to make a profit.
    Who could blame them?

    There’s more to it though. Glencore is a major coal producer. If its prediction is correct- that demand will double in Asia by 2040, which is not a bad assumption and that new supply will become socially unacceptable, Glencore will make a killing by not adding to supply and allowing the price to rise.

    Long term, coal stocks appear to be a wonderful bet. I may start looking at them in the second half of the year.

    Glassenberg is adding to the discourse to make new supply socially unacceptable in a totally dishonest attempt to help the coal price rise.

  27. RobK

    ….or stranded assets due to finance constraint. The fix is in.

  28. RobK

    Coal will always have an intrinsic value as a store of energy.

  29. JC

    RobK

    I know of Glassenberg from my currency trading days as we used to buy and sell currencies with Glencore. I never knew or met him, but we used to trade with them and saw , at least from the currency side, how good they were. Most of their large positions were taken by Glassenberg. He’s an amazing trader. That smart greedy fuck suddenly becoming Bob Brown is a belly laugh.. Two in fact.

  30. RobK

    Bottled concentrated sunlight.

  31. RobK

    In certain you are right, JC.

  32. mh

    Trump will be meeting the young conservative Austrian leader today.

    Trump to Meet the Millennial Who Challenged Merkel on Refugees

    https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/trump-meets-the-millennial-who-challenged-merkel-on-refugees#gs.3nKV0MXM

  33. Snoopy

    Don’t miss this.

    Splatacrobat
    #2939627, posted on February 20, 2019 at 11:55 pm
    What about the gender work hours gap?
    What an absolute shower.

    Scroll back for the link.

  34. RobK

    Bottled concentrated sunlight.
    Well, solid lumps of concentrated sunlight, then.

  35. jupes

    What about the gender work hours gap?
    What an absolute shower.

    DL absolutely beclowned those clueless bints.

    The gender pay gap is a fraud. The Workplace Gender Equality Agency is the perfect example of government waste. How much do you reckon the “gender pay gap” effects those tax hooverers?

  36. Splatacrobat

    Thanks Snoopy

    What about the gender work hours gap?
    What an absolute shower.
    It’s no wonder respected economists treat WGEA as the greatest joke going. On their own turf they can produce rubbish statistics and falsehoods because they are an unaccountable QANGO full of innumerate ideologues.
    Under some very basic questioning ( the like of which many people have been putting to WGEA for years) and they collapse like a flan in a cupboard.

    How embarrassing it is to have the head of the organisation flounder and fluff around and clearly showing they are making it up as they go along. If there was any doubt this organisation should be wound up, shut down, and the earth salted on the ground that it stands, it is this demonstration in Senate Estimates. This Empress has no clothes.

  37. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Spot of spacechooking here for military type Cats – non military Cats scroll on by.

    Family history, when we all grew up, was that both our grandfather, and his brother, were Wobbly Wobbly Two veterans. Great Uncle was an infantryman in North Africa, and an artilleryman, in the “Unnecessary campaigns of 1944/45, along the North coast of New Guinea. He kept a diary through both shooting matches.
    Said diaries have been passed on to me for transcription, as someone with some ideas of matters military, and I’m reading of the experiences of a forty something wheat farmer (2/32nd Battalion) at El Alamein.
    Sliante to all on the Cat.

  38. Fat Tony

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2939647, posted on February 21, 2019 at 12:51 am
    Spot of spacechooking here for military type Cats – non military Cats scroll on by.

    Family history, when we all grew up, was that both our grandfather, and his brother, were Wobbly Wobbly Two veterans

    ZKTA – did Macbeth ask you nicely not to refer to WW2 as Wobbly Wobbly Two?

  39. zyconoclast

    A lowered probability of pregnancy in females in the USA aged 25-29 who received a human papillomavirus vaccine injection.

    Abstract
    Birth rates in the United States have recently fallen. Birth rates per 1000 females aged 25-29 fell from 118 in 2007 to 105 in 2015. One factor may involve the vaccination against the human papillomavirus (HPV). Shortly after the vaccine was licensed, several reports of recipients experiencing primary ovarian failure emerged. This study analyzed information gathered in National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, which represented 8 million 25-to-29-year-old women residing in the United States between 2007 and 2014. Approximately 60% of women who did not receive the HPV vaccine had been pregnant at least once, whereas only 35% of women who were exposed to the vaccine had conceived. For married women, 75% who did not receive the shot were found to conceive, while only 50% who received the vaccine had ever been pregnant. Using logistic regression to analyze the data, the probability of having been pregnant was estimated for females who received an HPV vaccine compared with females who did not receive the shot. Results suggest that females who received the HPV shot were less likely to have ever been pregnant than women in the same age group who did not receive the shot. If 100% of females in this study had received the HPV vaccine, data suggest the number of women having ever conceived would have fallen by 2 million. Further study into the influence of HPV vaccine on fertility is thus warranted.

  40. One ScoMo doesn’t make a Spring

    Splatacrobat
    #2939627, posted on February 20, 2019 at 11:55 pm
    What about the gender work hours gap?

    Gold post.
    FFS. What a pathetic response to the enquiry. Making sh!t up as they are going along. MSM have not been reporting this . ‘ we annualse the results’ . ‘ we don’t have the hours’ ‘we don’t have hourly rates’.
    Come back to the government when you have a real case to argue. Stick a fork in the gender pay equality case it’s done.

  41. jupes

    Had dinner at a pub tonight that was opened 504 years ago.

    Thinking about it, Captain Cook sailed into Botany Bay in less than half that time ago.

  42. bespoke

    Myrddin Seren
    #2939562, posted on February 20, 2019 at 9:21 pm
    I doubt Sandmann or his classmates will be accepted at any worthwhile college in the continental North America.

    Replace worthwhile with over rated.

  43. 1735099

    Glencore also said it would examine its membership of trade associations to ensure those groups aligned with the Paris climate agreement and Paris goals. These associations include the Minerals Council of Australia.

    This aspect of the story has been missed here.
    The announcement is a watershed.
    It shows that the multinationals have seen the writing on the wall, and Glasenberg, if he is as smart as is claimed here, is acknowledging it.
    He’s a trader, not a miner.
    Follow the money….

  44. bespoke

    From Black Ball’s link

    Who knows, if you show other people you are capable of finding the humour in things, you might not end up feeling so hurt and victimised yourself. That is a lonely life that only isolates you from others as your constant inability to forgive minor social transgressions will slowly but surely turn all but the most loyal from wanting to be a part of your life. They’ll all screw up at some point, everyone does, and the ones you haven’t driven away by a one-man jury verdict of ‘racist’ will eventually flee when they tire of your constant need to pick apart their comments like a paranoid crack addict through garbage.

  45. egg_

    What about the gender work hours gap?
    What an absolute shower.

    The SFLs should be publicicing same, but they won’t with a view to popularity.

    My bet is that female pollies a time servers on the whole, too.

  46. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A lowered probability of pregnancy in females in the USA aged 25-29 who received a human papillomavirus vaccine injection.

    Don’t panic yet. This study is merely at the stage of hypothesis formation and is painting with a very broad brush indeed. It commences with an observation of a possible clinical relationship in a few cases. It then gathers population data and in regression finds an association. Correlation is not causation, of course. I haven’t read the study to assess details of the analysis to see if and by how much the raw data was unpacked, indeed, whether the data is accessible to much further analysis by factors that could have been very confounding, such as marital status, education, even religion, plus past health influences, including contraceptive pill usage and IVF treatments, all of which have bearing upon fertility choices and outcomes. A more detailed study specifically designed to test this association in a much more controlled manner is required for any real conclusions at all to be drawn about significance and perhaps causation. It is a plea for further research money more than anything else. There are spurious correlations to be made in many fields, and this is published in an ‘environmental toxicology’ journal, perhaps a bit of a flag for caution too. More broad population studies plus more clinical epidemiology seeking real biological pathways, with publication of results in NEJMA or similar, might or might not add fuel to this fire. That said, it is a line of investigation worth pursuing, although liable to be drawn into anti-vax hysteria unless carefully managed.

    —-

    The obvious difference between the above two romantic interludes is that one is primarily about the lover; the other primarily about the writer.

    Well, you would say that, wouldn’t you? You are simply a puff of wind, a foulness butting in everywhere, unwanted and dribbling with venom.
    Your snarky interjection is neither true, nor relevant even were it to be so.
    My longer comment was experiential, in the first person but about another, as was Struth’s much shorter response. This was late night Catallaxy; no trespassing.

  47. Farmer Gez

    Glencore also said it would examine its membership of trade associations to ensure those groups aligned with the Paris climate agreement and Paris goals.

    Glencore is one of the most ruthless companies in the commodity sector. Watch for future moves into taxpayer skimming green energy schemes.
    I’d keep a firm grip on your wallet Numbers, Glencore is a knocking.

  48. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    That link to BST by Black Ball offers an excellent recipe for how to be happy.
    As so few on the left are. How appalling it is then that they are the ones teaching their poison and modelling their unhelpful attitudes to our children.

  49. Des Deskperson

    ‘What an absolute shower.
    It’s no wonder respected economists treat WGEA as the greatest joke going. On their own turf they can produce rubbish statistics and falsehoods because they are an unaccountable QANGO full of innumerate ideologues’

    Indeed!

    I loved the way that the blondie agency head – basic salary band between $185,460 – $345,030 pa – tries to show how clever she is by pointing out that hours of work don’t necessarily equate to productivity, an utterly irrelevant point that only makes her look very stupid – and very desperate – indeed!

    And BTW, the WGEA isn’t a QANGO, although it would be maybe slightly better if it were. Theres’s nothing ‘quasi-autonomous’ or ‘non-government’ about it: it’s a fully budget – taxpayer – funded APS agency with all the trappings and perks that go with it.

  50. Black Ball

    Lizzie you need not explain yourself to fools like Harken.
    Before work this afternoon I will be watching Victoria v South Australia lawn bowls at Moama. Tis a magnificent arena, played state pennant against the big boys in Altona, gave them a whipping which was very enjoyable. Will keep you posted Cats and Kitties.

  51. Bruce of Newcastle

    The announcement is a watershed.

    It won’t last. The reason is the huge demand from China and India is still increasing rapidly, and will do so for decades as 3 billion people become westernized consumers. You cannot support a western style civilization on an inadequate electricity supply.

    We know well that grids cannot cope with large amounts of wind and solar due to the intermittency problem, and the only way to get them to work is to use gas turbines to load-level. There’s only so much gas to go around and it is expensive to transport by ship. So simple supply/demand economics mean gas prices will skyrocket as everyone tries to build the same stupid wind/solar/gas combination in the developed countries. We’re already seeing that in the local Australian market.

    There is plenty coal in the world for the want of digging it up. As the gas price rises the nations will quietly return to coal, which can produce electricity reliably for less than 4c/kWh. China and India are especially good at shaving costs, and their leaders aren’t idiots unlike our lot.

  52. egg_

    APS agency with all the trappings and perks that go with it.

    Ensuring that some animals are more equal?

  53. egg_

    WGEA Annual Report 2017-2018:

    Financial Performance
    The total appropriation for the Agency in 2017-18 was $4,875,000.
    Expenditure in 2017-18 decreased by 0.20% from the previous year to $5,938,375 due to a decrease in
    depreciation costs.
    Expenditure on suppliers was $1,947,985 or 33% and included:
    IT and office equipment*
    lease and other costs associated with premises
    contractors and consultants
    travel and training for staff
    subscriptions, printing and publications.
    Expenditure on employee benefits was $3,054,582 or 51% which represented a decrease of 2% from last year and is attributable to staff turnover and a delay in recruitment.

    *IT and office equipment: $719,902 (2017-2018)

    How big is this “Agency”?

  54. calli

    Chuckle.

    Apparently he has to front up to HR today to explain. 😂

  55. calli

    I saw it on Seven so it might be Fake News.

    Oh, and Breen’s best today Tom. (Keeping with the graphic theme)

  56. feelthebern

    numbers is a government fed moron.
    Don’t try explain markets to him.
    When the seaborne market in thermal coal is effectively a cartel.
    When it takes the better part of a $A1bill from go to yo to start a new thermal coal project of enough scale to impact the seaborne market.
    When banks are pressured to stop funding new thermal coal projects.
    That’s when it’s good to be part of the cartel.

  57. feelthebern

    The corporate memory of Marc Rich runs rich in the veins of Glencore.
    Marc Rich developed a culture of making the dosh at Glencore that is slowly dying as the banksters globally muscle in on the business model he developed.

  58. Baldrick

    Glencore also said it would examine its membership of trade associations to ensure those groups aligned with the Paris climate agreement and Paris goals.

    Turkey’s voting for Christmas.

  59. feelthebern

    numbers quickly googling marc rich.

  60. feelthebern

    Glencore also said it would examine its membership of trade associations to ensure those groups aligned with the Paris climate agreement and Paris goals.

    It’s all horseshit.
    Glencore will keep digging up the black stuff.
    Glencore will keep doing what it’s always done more of. Trade financing the producers of the blacks stuff.
    In the region, Glencore & one investment bank (who doesn’t own a single coal mine) impact the price of thermal coal more than BHP & Rio ever did.

  61. will

    HONEST MINING AS OPPOSED TO MINING YOUR TAXES
    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph

    Australian mining companies, the employees of mining companies and businesses associated with mining equipment, supplies and transport all pay a great amount of tax.

    And then they find those taxes being used against them.

    As the Daily Telegraph reports, taxpayer-funded anti-mining activists are coaching children to skip school again next month as part of a concerted campaign to erode mining interests in our country.

    The campaign is particularly aimed at destroying the coal industry. Coal happens to be Australia’s primary export, last year generating some $66 billion in export revenue.

    Obviously, the taxes generated from such an amount would be enormous, helping Australia to pay down debt and to build hospitals, roads and other elements of vital infrastructure.

    Taxes fund schools, too. And that is where the tax-dependent Australian Youth Climate Coalition comes in.

    The AYCC has received $786,524 in government grants over the past three financial years. At least some of that money is used to run “social justice bootcamps” conducted by “seasoned activists” in order to train high school students in the art of climate activism.

    AYCC director Kelly Albion and AYCC National Schools Program Coordinator Laura Sykes are listed as administrators of the Facebook group “School Strike for Climate Action”, which is busily whipping up excitement for the planned March 15 school walkout.

    You will notice that the event is not scheduled for March 16. That may be because March 16 is a Saturday, and children are far less likely to sacrifice their precious weekends to shout at the government and wave signs.

    As matters stand, however, they get a three-day weekend. It’s not a bad arrangement, unless you are a fee-paying parent or someone whose taxes are being wasted.

    At the AYCC-connected Facebook site, children are encouraged to use various tools to influence their peers. Sample phone scripts, for example, show how kids might “spread the word” to other students.

    “Why not text/phone your friends/supporters to let them know about the strike?” the promotional template says. “Here are some sample words you could use.

    “Hi [insert name] – climate impacts are worsening, an election is around the corner and Adani is ploughing ahead with building their massive coal mine.”

    A more direct and honest approach would probably be better: “Hi [insert name] – do you want a day off school?”

  62. feelthebern

    I’ll believe thermal coal is dead when Uncle Warren unloads his holdings in the PRB (currently one of the largest holders of PRB titles).

    numbers quickly googling PRB.
    numbers, tell me you know who Uncle Warren is.

  63. 132andBush

    I’ll rate JC’s opinion on Glencore just a smidgeon higher than that of a communist ideologue.

  64. Id have thought the answer was obvious, if anyone knows anything about history
    comparing black people to monkeys has a long dark simian history

  65. Des Deskperson

    ‘How big is this “Agency”?’

    WGEA has 21 ongoing and 5 ‘non-ongoing’ staff.

    Nine of the ongoing staff are executive level, with annual salaries ranging from $110,223 to $135,521. At 43%, this is rather top-heavy for an APS agency – APS wide representation of these levels is 25% – and I can’t imagine that these Els have very onerous financial, corporate or HR management responsibilities compared to their line agency equivalents.

    Only 2 of the total staff are male.

  66. min

    Jupes , I have stayed in a hotel in Reggio Emilia a couple of times that 4 years ago, when I was there last,celebrated 500 years as a hotel.
    Before it had been il capitatono’s palazzo. One room with frescoes has been kept and used as a meeting room these days.

  67. calli

    Jupes, a reminder.

    Don’t forget to stock up chocolates. Best in the world.

  68. Snoopy

    Nine of the ongoing staff are executive level, with annual salaries ranging from $110,223 to $135,521. At 43%, this is rather top-heavy for an APS agency

    WGEA’s magnificent Senate Estimates performance confirms taxpayers are getting value for money.

  69. Dr Faustus

    The announcement is a watershed.
    It shows that the multinationals have seen the writing on the wall, and Glasenberg, if he is as smart as is claimed here, is acknowledging it.

    A watershed like BHP threatening to quit the Minerals Council of Australia in 2017? And then not.

    In other watershed news:

    Banks increasing exposure to fossil fuels despite promises to fight climate change: report

    Always follow the money…

  70. 1735099

    Flying today – time to ponder…..
    Two questions for aviation nerds.
    Why are passenger aircraft fitted with non-retractable lap belts, when everything else that moves comes with inertia reel lap-sash harnesses?
    Why aren’t aircraft seats rear facing? Years ago the Brits configured their troop transports this way because apparently it made a prang more survivable.
    Any ideas?

  71. Leigh Lowe

    WGEA has 21 ongoing and 5 ‘non-ongoing’ staff.

    What percentage of staff are fat lezzos, Des?
    And how many own cats?

  72. 1735099

    Numbers, tell me you know who uncle Warren is

    Only if you tell me you know who Oscar Romero is.

  73. Tom

    What percentage of staff are fat lezzos, Des?

    110% (including the two blokes).

  74. Des Deskperson

    ‘What percentage of staff are fat lezzos, Des?’

    Well, if the appearance and BMI of the WGEA representatives that fronted the Senate Committee on the Liberal Democrat clip above is any indication, at least 50%.

  75. Percy Popinjay

    800 semiautomatic assault rifles in 5.56 wielded by black clad, body armoured, balaclava wearing poorly trained cops are only suitable for terrorising restive citizens

    Which is the exact intention.

  76. Percy Popinjay

    at least 50%

    Equalidy!*

    *For fat useless lezzos (BIRM).

  77. cohenite

    It shows that the multinationals have seen the writing on the wall, and Glasenberg, if he is as smart as is claimed here, is acknowledging it.
    He’s a trader, not a miner.
    Follow the money….

    You fucking idiot. As much as I loathe to acknowledge it head prefect is spot on about this. Companies like Glencore are simply responding to an artificial market created by government subsidies favouring renewables and disadvantaging coal. Vesey did it with Liddell and Origin is doing it with Eraring. It’s not a market response but a government dishing out money response. And it’s correct that coal will simply appreciate as renewables expand because renewables will always need coal as a back-up.

  78. Percy Popinjay

    Ooops – massive narrative fail – the true cost of repeatedly electing appallingly ignorant corrupt and destructive z-grade quisling cretins to public office in this country:

    Labor’s 45 per cent emissions-­reduction target would push electricity prices 50 per cent higher, cost workers up to $9000 a year in lower wages and wipe $472 billion from the economy over the next decade, according to the first independent modelling of the energy policies of both the government and opposition.

    The Coalition’s commitment to meeting a 26-28 per cent reduc­tion under the Paris Agreement would also come at a cost, with $70bn in cumulative economic losses by 2030 and a 2 per cent hit to real wage growth.

    The research, which is currently under peer review in the US, has been authored by Brian Fisher, the former head of the Australian Bureau of Agriculture and Resource Economics, who served under the Hawke, Keating and Howard governments as a chief adviser on climate policy.

    Expect the “pal review” (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) process to result in the above being slammed as poorly researched, utterly untrue, coloured by the writer’s connections to big fossil fuel, failing to recognise that roonables are now cheaper than da dirty coal, etc.

    From the Oz.

  79. Johno

    Galaxy have unfolded (pun intended) a new smart phone.It has a 4.7 inch screen that unfolds to a 7.3 inch screen effectively making it a tablet.Three rear facing cameras for widescreen and panorama.The price will be about 14 gazillion plus you first born.

  80. stackja

    Cyclone Oma homing in for a wet and wild weekend
    Peter Hall, Sunshine Coast Bureau, The Courier-Mail
    February 21, 2019 1:00am
    Subscriber only

    TWENTY possible paths of destruction, 500mm of rain in a day, 130km/h wind gusts, 4m waves and one unpredictable cyclone – southeast Queensland is bracing for ­disaster lotto.

    Oma means “commander” in Arabic and the cyclone creeping towards the state’s southeast corner is very much in control of the fate of towns and cities between Bundaberg and the Gold Coast.

    BOM guessing on Oma? BOM guessing on high temperatures?

  81. Mother Lode

    The only reference I can remember of Obama being depicted as a monkey (well, a chimp actually) was way back after some New York police officers had shot one, so a shot chimp was topical . A lot of cartoons draw on recent events to illustrate a point.

    The Robert Ariail (1) cartoon above latches onto Clint Eastwood’s movie, Gran Torino.

    Every other instance I can think of is depicting Obama as a jug eared elitist narcissist – which he was – contrasting his laughably portentous rhetoric with his actual deeds.

    Pleased to see Rowe has finally freed himself from his ‘Abbott’ crabs. I was beginning to think he was simply affecting a Sartre-like persona – because if there is one thing lefties take seriously, it is pretense.

  82. Geriatric Mayfly

    What percentage of staff are fat lezzos, Des?
    And how many own cats?

    Occasionally crossed over to Senate Estimates this week for a stickybeak. Some days it was wall-to-wall wimminzes, many of them straight from the feed lot. Those of fierce, humourless mien and drab of face also seemed imbued with a Sapphic aura.

  83. Percy Popinjay

    The only reference I can remember of Obama being depicted as a monkey (well, a chimp actually) was way back after some New York police officers had shot one, so a shot chimp was topical .

    Load, you are incorrect. The cartoon was by Delonas and depicted a ventilated monkey, with two cops standing nearby observing “they’ll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill”, a tangential reference (unless the observer happened to be an ignorant drooling left wing cockhead) to the infinite monkey theorem. Nothing to do with Obongo whatsoever.

  84. dover_beach

    It’s been explained here a number of times that the gender pay gap is a crock of merde. The whole thing reflects different patterns of work between men and women, not differences in pay.

  85. Percy Popinjay

    If anyone’s interested in a laugh, feel free to head over to the “what is capitalism” thread where iampeta has been reduced to repeatedly squealing that I’m a “leftist”.

    He makes faeces flinging howler monkeys look like paragons of civilised discussion.

  86. C.L.

    A fresh new leftist “idea” …
    Women retire with almost half the super as men. This idea might help change that.
    Guess who pays; you do, of course.

    … there is a growing push to compensate carers for this time out of the workforce with carer credits to their superannuation.

    This is when governments pay superannuation on carer and parenting payments or supplement superannuation accounts to recognise carers’ work looking after children, people with a disability or elderly relatives.

    The report begins with a mother who protests that she has to do a lot of, well, mothering:

    When Crystie Oatley looks at the pay packet for her 10-year-old son’s support worker, she wonders what her bank balance might look like if she was paid that money instead.

    For this mother, from Yamba on the NSW north coast, caring for Zac — who has quadriplegia and cerebral palsy — is a full-time job.

    “During the night [he] needs rolling. Normally his dad and I do that all night long,” she said.

    “Then he wakes up, he needs dressing, he needs feeding. He basically relies on us.”

  87. C.L.

    Chicago police have the CCTV of Smollett’s ‘attackers’ buying ski-masks and red caps.
    Is it OK to joke about Jussie getting r-aped in prison, CNN?

  88. Mother Lode

    WGEA has 21 ongoing and 5 ‘non-ongoing’ staff.

    Only 2 of the total staff are male.

    And here is the implicit assumption – typical of a Marxist mindset: Human activity is characterised by conflict rather than cooperation. Males and females are necessarily in conflict. In this view more men would weaken WGEA, while in the latter equal numbers would lead to more balanced arguments.

    But then of course it would be redundant as cooperation already underpins every business, club, family etc in Australia.

    The eventual outcome of conflict, of course, is for one side to vanquish the other.

    The WGEA is not there to achieve any sort of equality. It is there to help women defeat men.

  89. stackja

    Iranian migrant TV star charged with importing $36m worth of drugs
    Danielle Gusmaroli, The Daily Telegraph
    February 21, 2019 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    An Iranian refugee who fronted a national television campaign aimed at encouraging migrants to become small business owners has been charged with conspiracy to import methamphetamine with a street value of $36 million into Sydney.

    Married immigrant Hamid Ranjbarain, 37, the wholesome face of CGU Insurance advert “Australian as it Gets”, is alleged to have been at the centre of a criminal network conspiring to import up to 40kg of ice from Middle East and Asia.

  90. John Constantine

    The .223 is an excellent varmint round for fox plinking out in wide open spaces.

    Using a semiautomatic assault rifle in an urban area with ricochet risk and shoot straight through all non brick walls certainty is a non starter.

    The American alcohol tobacco and firearms agents have famously used similar weapons to gun down rednecks living in shacks out in isolated areas.

    The eight hundred vikpol assault rifles will be used by suicidal vikpol death squaddies, will be sold by bent vikpols, will be supplied to specially recruited diversity paramilitary squads.

    The paramilitary will never be deployed against politically progressives, only deplorable deniers of yarragrads policy of Cheerful Squalor for the proletariat.

    Comrades.

  91. mh

    Is it OK to joke about Jussie getting r-aped in prison, CNN?

    Sackable offence with an apology from the network.

  92. Mother Lode

    He makes faeces flinging howler monkeys look like paragons of civilised discussion.

    Is 1amp black? That might be racist. If not, it is just an image.

  93. Bruce of Newcastle

    Good stuff!

    Leftists Aren’t Religious? Ask Them about Food (via Lucianne)

    Devotees of these practices always feel a need to announce their customs to a degree that traditional religious believers do not. Their e-mails never just state, “I’ll bring cookies.” It will state, “I’ll bring the gluten-free cookies with all-organic ingredients.” The grocery list can never be a mystery. Weirdly, the J-wish parents never feel the same need to announce if the ingredients they buy have that little “k” for k0sher. I myself never once experienced a desire to declare, “We’ll be bringing cheese squares instead of turkey cubes tomorrow because we abstain on Friday.” Left-wing food faddies are far better evangelizers.

    The popular food fetishes of these cultural enclaves often go hand-in-glove with a neo-pagan mishmash of Gaia-worship, 4th century Gn0sticism, and rejuvenated new age/occult practices. Every religion has its food rituals. The left is no exception.

    The Left is turning into the weirdest and most ascetic religion on Earth.

  94. John Constantine

    The vikpol purchase was reported as 5.56, which is the military killing power version of .223.

    Big Australia has made us so rich we can afford paramilitary Death squads to progress Cheerfulness on our streets of Squalor.

    Numbers reported how cheerful Cubans were, living in squalor with paramilitary machineguns on each corner.

    No protests against the oligarch looting cartel ruling in Tyranny over Cuba at all.

    Comrades.

  95. stackja

    Baby born without a brain learns to count and surf
    The Sun, News Corp Australia Network
    February 21, 2019 6:50am

    If doctors told you to terminate your pregnancy not once but five times, you might take them at their word.

    But when Shelley and Rob Wall were advised to have an abortion after finding out that their baby had “no brain”, they stuck to their guns.

    And six years on, their son Noah has defied the odds — by “growing” a brain.

    The Sun reports that the plucky youngster appeared on Good Morning Britain with his parents to share his extraordinary story, which Richard Madley called “a miracle”.

    Despite his parents being told that there was no chance of his survival, Noah has totally exceeded all expectations.

    Before Noah was born, doctors doubted he’d survive.

  96. Geriatric Mayfly

    Is it OK to joke about Jussie getting r-aped in prison, CNN?

    Ans: Yes. Provided the rapist is black or from a victim minority. Circumstances will excludes wimmin naturally.

  97. Mother Lode

    there is a growing push

    If journalists were required to include who is doing the calling, demanding, whatever, then it would show that there was no real point in doing the story in the first place.

    Demands are mounting for the Liberal Party dis-endorse Tony Abbott – by five people wearing cardigans and sandals in Fairlight.

    New findings that more action is needed to combat environmental and social degradation caused by climate change in a report issued today – by an activist group half of whom are lawyers and none of whom have experience in hard sciences.

    Ninety percent of Australians demand refugees currently on Nauru be brought to Australia – according to three post-grad sociology students who conducted a survey at Newtown Markets.

  98. 1735099

    Human activity is characacterised by conflict rather than cooperation

    Typical of a Marxist mindset?
    Wow – must be lots of Marxists posting on Catallaxy.
    Wall to wall conflict is its bread and butter….

  99. Top Ender

    Why are passenger aircraft fitted with non-retractable lap belts, when everything else that moves comes with inertia reel lap-sash harnesses?
    Why aren’t aircraft seats rear facing? Years ago the Brits configured their troop transports this way because apparently it made a prang more survivable.

    They’re more complicated so they break more so they are an added expense.

    Has been tried from memory. Passengers don’t like them = so more will die in a crash but don’t care.

  100. Mother Lode

    Is it OK to joke about Jussie getting r-aped in prison, CNN?

    To mock his only consolation?

  101. Tel

    Harken would be the most egregious example of “social degradation caused by climate change”.

  102. Baldrick

    Leftards, they’re all the same …

    Anthony Guglielmi ✔ @AJGuglielmi (Chief Communications Officer @Chicago_Police)
    Case Update: Jussie Smollett is now officially classified as a suspect in a criminal investigation by #ChicagoPolice for filing a false police report (Class 4 felony). Detectives are currently presenting evidence before a Cook County Grand Jury.

  103. areff

    Chicago police have the CCTV of Smollett’s ‘attackers’ buying ski-masks and red caps.
    Is it OK to joke about Jussie getting r-aped in prison, CNN?

    Their ABC, which promoted the initial hoax to the point of interview Empire’s scriptwriter about the wickedness of Trump’s America, still refusing to report it was a scam.

    Last story posted is a misinterpretation of the news from last week that Chicago cops had turned loose the Muscle brothers, which it interpretted as proof Smollett’s claims were genuine.

    Apparently, with all its thickly staffed bureaus, no one knows what the term “cooperating witness” means.

    https://search-beta.abc.net.au/#/?configure%5BgetRankingInfo%5D=true&configure%5BclickAnalytics%5D=true&configure%5Banalytics%5D=true&query=smollett&page=1

    The ABC gets away with this because it is allowed to get away with it.

  104. Tel

    Numbers reported how cheerful Cubans were, living in squalor with paramilitary machineguns on each corner.

    After Castro finished murdering everyone who was unhappy with communism … the survivors were quite cheerful.

  105. Geriatric Mayfly

    Birmingham in the hot seat at estimates. Ducking, weaving and obfuscating. One of his lackeys an assistant Minister alleged to have thrown a stapler at a public service. Doogie in high dungeon. What’s with this flying stapler?

  106. Bruce of Newcastle

    I love intersectionality. Wonderfully popcornworthy.

    Students Drop ‘Vagina’ From The Vagina Monologues To Be More ‘Inclusive’

    I think “Monologues” highly uninclusive, so they should change the name of the play to “The”.
    Although calling it just “The” is rather scarily definite and judgemental.

  107. Anthony

    In Australia, Labor say they will sack Joe Hockey.
    In the US, the Democrats say they will cancel Trump’s wall.

    Is there an ‘if and only if’ hidden in here somewhere?

    Oh, yes.
    If Labor win the next election in Australia and the Dems take the US presidency in the next election.

    Shouldn’t be too difficult.

  108. Snoopy

    Breitbart:

    Cardinals Denounce ‘Plague of Homosexual Agenda’ in Catholic Church

    Excerpt

    A canon lawyer and the former head of the church’s highest court, Burke said it was already “clear after the studies following the 2002 sexual abuse crisis that most of the acts of abuse were in fact homosexual acts committed with adolescent young men.”

    TheirABC:

    Controversial Catholic cardinals blame child abuse on the ‘plague of the homosexual agenda’

    Excerpt

    Two conservative cardinals have linked a “homosexual agenda” to crimes against children ahead of a major Vatican summit on the prevention of sexual abuse.

    Who to believe? Surely $1 billion per year buys accuracy?

  109. Tom

    Mother Lode
    #2939753, posted on February 21, 2019 at 9:43 am

    My Cat post of the day.

  110. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Students Drop ‘Vagina’ From The Vagina Monologues To Be More ‘Inclusive’

    For crying out loud, if you want to be a woman you have to recognize that having a vagina is part of the deal. If you don’t want to be a woman, but want to be something indeterminate, then don’t go to the play, for it is not about you or what whatever weird idea of humanity you are aiming to be. Sorry for the hurtie feelz for men ‘transitioning’ into women, but it’s not just about lipstick, bras, and a pretty frock.

    I am a born female and have all the necessary equipment but wouldn’t touch that play with a ten foot barge pole. I don’t get the point of it. But that’s just me. 🙂

  111. Tel

    He’s a trader, not a miner.
    Follow the money….

    Follow the government subsidy money you mean? Need a politically correct public face if you want a share of the coming ALP wave of spendthrift. Currently sitting at 38% debt-to-GDP up from almost zero 12 years ago.

  112. Mother Lode

    Typical of a Marxist mindset?

    It is the basis the Marx’s Dialectical Materialism – which was a bit of a fudge in itself really.

    Funnily enough, Marx had to create out of nowhere the notion that the proletariat would spontaneously (and unprecedentedly in his theory) develop a collective consciousness so they would act in a way that would give riser to socialism.

    And it would again do so in conflict with capitalists.

    And, of course, socialists and communists define themselves by the enemies they must destroy.

  113. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Bozo’s very bad day just got worse
    Nick Sandmann: why MAGA teen is suing Washington Post for $250m
    “In order to fully compensate Nicholas for his damages and to punish, deter, and teach the Post a lesson it will never forget, this action seeks money damages in excess of $250m [£190m] – the amount Jeff Bezos, the world’s richest person, paid in cash for the Post when his company, Nash Holdings, purchased the newspaper in 2013,” the complaint says.

  114. Snoopy

    I wonder if #HeelsUp Harris and Spartacus are looking forward to Smollett plea bargaining?

  115. candy

    Jussie Smollett is now officially classified as a suspect in a criminal investigation by #ChicagoPolice for filing a false police report (Class 4 felony).

    I wonder if it turns out he was in cahoots with some unknown peoples in order to damage Trump. The bit about the noose around his neck by two men in MAGA hats. A black man being lynched by white racist/Trump supporters.
    Or he is a druggie in serious money trouble, the simplest and most believable explanation.

  116. mh

    Rob Elgas
    @RobElgasABC7
    @ABC7Chicago
    has also learned subpoenas have been issued to obtain records from Jussie Smollett.
    8:04 AM · Feb 21, 2019

    Times’s Up, Jussie.

  117. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Happy?

    To hear of you disappearing forever in a puff of smoke up your non-existent fundament, Harken?
    Not really. I’d like you tarred and feathered like a real person would be, for an excess of malice.
    Re the Goodes case, to be fair to him, I’d say he mishandled his image under leftist pressure. I have no doubt that real racism against aboriginal people has existed in Australia’s past and I condemn it. Black Steam Train has shown how any remnant tendencies or idioms can be handled gracefully and with aplomb. Goodes could take lessons. I am sorry for him, but more sorry for his victim in this case.

    I’ve never read a Mills and Boon in my life, btw. Reflections on my experiences I write here are just that, reflections. I make no claim to be any sort of ‘literary’ person; I am a novice in all of this. Some seem to like my level of sharing and share their own experiences on diverse matters, for many different lives cross path on a site like this. Plenty may not be interested in what I say on things that interest me, not just my life btw, and they should scroll, as I do when the conversation turns to cricket or other matters too arcane for my attention.

    I won’t say good riddance, for I am not like that. But farewell is too good a wish, unless you have learned something here about the perils of leftism that may stand you in good stead in the bumpy years ahead.

  118. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ouch, to those who thought he was a goner.

    Lefties are hypocrites, example 9,999,999½.

  119. Notafan

    Numbers reported how cheerful Cubans were, living in squalor with paramilitary machineguns on each corner.

    Numbers cheerfully ignoring that Cuba is indeed a police state with members of ‘committees for the Defense of the Revolution’ constantly on the listen out for wrong speech.

    As if people in those circumstances are going to reveal their real feelings to a gringo that, by his mere presence, is telling the world he believes the propaganda.

    Aren’t you lucky that the only cars on the road are either over sixty years old or Russian junk that even Russians don’t drive any more!

    A year after fidel castros death the fear he fostered in Cuba lives on

    beware members of the ‘committees for the Defense of the Revolution

  120. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If journalists were required to include who is doing the calling, demanding, whatever, then it would show that there was no real point in doing the story in the first place.

    Margaret Thatcher pinged that little game when being interviewed by George Negus here in Oz.

    It is worth constant repetition of that clip whenever these sorts of ‘people say’ tales arise.

  121. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I am an honest person, Hark. You are not.

  122. Notafan

    I wonder if it turns out he was in cahoots with some unknown peoples in order to damage Trump.

    ‘Unknown people’

    Trying to blackmail the producers of his show to keep him on is the obvious explanation

    You’d kind of hope ‘unknown persons’ would come up with a more plausible hoax -eg having his 2am middle of a cold Chicago winter sandwich stolen .

  123. struth

    Good Moaning
    Vagina Monologues drops “Vagina”
    They are replacing it with “Numbers”

    By they way, you should never drop a vagina.
    They can suction cup themselves to the floor in a way that can require a crow bar.

  124. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rob Elgas
    @RobElgasABC7
    @ABC7Chicago
    has also learned subpoenas have been issued to obtain records from Jussie Smollett.
    8:04 AM · Feb 21, 2019

    Mr Smurfette needs to urgently get in touch with Hillary’s IT guy.

  125. struth

    Fharken we are trying to teach you here.

    We are trying to teach you how the left are the true racists, just hypocritically projecting it onto others.

    It is quite simple, and you still haven’t answered the question, oh man bun of fear.
    I have worded it in a way to help you see your own racism developing while projecting onto others by accusation as a means of virtue signalling.

    So , If I call a white man a monkey when he is a fool, but dare not call a black man one when he is also a fool, am I being racist?

    Please answer the question.
    We are trying to help you.
    Numbers as you can see, by our approach, we treat much differently.

  126. mh

    Kamala Harris may be involved with Jussie’s hate hoax.

    You will be hearing more of that connection.

  127. struth

    And conservatives who endorse and are positively enthusiastic about a President who boasted about “his own personal Vietnam” of avoiding STD’s in the 70’s, being able to grope women because he’s rich, and paid hush money to a lover he had slept with during his current marriage, are all just on the reasonable, consistent side of politics, hey?

    There is more at stake here than to worry about his private life.
    Do you want to put billions in the world into socialist controlled misery because he bragged about whores who will let you grope them because you are rich, and therefore not a suitable fighter.
    We needed someone who would fight, unlike our own Liberals.
    And take it from a bloke who was once a good looking lead singer and guitarists.
    Many women around wealth or perceived social status against other women, are truly the greatest whores you will ever experience (god bless them)
    Do you feel one should not be able to make that observation in private, Oh virtue signalling man bun?

  128. Des Deskperson

    ‘Occasionally crossed over to Senate Estimates this week for a stickybeak. Some days it was wall-to-wall wimminzes, many of them straight from the feed lot. ‘

    Generally speaking, the more useless/irrelevant and APS agency is, the more people they send as witnesses to Senate Estimates. They think it makes them look big and important.

    In the case of WGEA, one fifth of its staff front the hearings.

    Of course, the more people they send, the greater chance of incompetent and contradictory evidence.

  129. DrBeauGan

    Harken, your moral indignation would be more convincing if it weren’t quite so selective.

    Can’t you see why Lizzie and others don’t believe you are honest?

  130. Bruce of Newcastle

    You talking about Bill again Hark?
    It amazes me how Hillary puts up with him.

  131. DrBeauGan

    PS. I for one am glad to hear you are leaving us. Stupidity and massive ignorance is not something I welcome.

    I’ll believe it when it happens.

  132. Notafan

    Reminds me I read a lengthy Facebook exchange on a UK newspaper site between Expat Burmese and Pakistanis/Bangladeshis over the Rohingya crisis last year, racial abuse abounded including the monkey word hurled without cease by the Pakinstanis/Bangladeshis against the Burmese.

    Also remember the ‘monkeygate’ controversy in cricket involving Andrew Symons

    Seems everyone in the world know that for the very dark skinned monkey/ape is a racist slur except a couple of people with an agenda.

    Claiming that Africans/blacks were a little lower on the evolutionary tree was a thing for quite a while, perhaps even used as a justification for slavery?

    Don’t argue like progs, please.

    An article from India
    why monkey is racist

  133. struth

    Think about this Fharken.
    The people that have brainwashed you all through school to feel guilty about the west, and whiteness, and indeed that the west is causing the end of the world, one of them is here on this site.
    Guess which one.

    You should have been able to see by now, he’s not really bright, but more importantly he’s not consistent, and if attacted he crumbles admitting he takes the words of leaders of countries as to what they are but then does not when it suits.
    etc etc.
    You, I believe, can see this.

    These are the people you should be angry with.
    Those that are murderously blind to the harm done by socialism.

    Those that brainwashed you in education.

    Did you find out who was in charge of the UN, and what Gutterres is up to?
    Him and the rest of the western hating backward nations in it, and their puppet master corporatists like Soros (the Davos crowd)

    Lighten your load buddy, none of the predictions have been accurate, the islands are still there that should have already disappeared, polar bears etc, (what I always tell you) and they don’t get to keep adjusting the goal posts and continuing on with this dire emergency, that they don’t for a second believe, as communist power stations are allowed to expand in their hundreds.
    All bureaucracies, ( up to and including the liberal party) end up left wing activist institutions, as once one lefty heads it, they don’t play fair and only promote others playing their game.

    Lighten your load, Harken.
    I believe you can be a happy boy again.
    Drop the bitterness to a woman who you can scroll at leisure.

    Tell her to get back in the kitchen, sure, we know it’s where they belong, but enjoy them for what they are.

  134. Arky

    ” racial abuse abounded including the monkey word hurled without cease by the Pakinstanis/Bangladeshis against the Burmese. ”
    ..
    “know that for the very dark skinned monkey/ape is a racist slur “

    ..
    Your example argues against your thesis.

  135. Arky

    I don’t much like racists, but the speech police are infinitely worse.

  136. dover_beach

    Lila Rose
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    Our investigators exposed this New York abortion facility, which says they will put a born-alive baby in a jar of “solution” to drown her. They also say to “flush” the baby down the toilet, or “put it in a bag” if she’s born alive.

    These people are ghouls.

  137. bespoke

    Black Ball
    #2939681, posted on February 21, 2019 at 7:08 am
    Lizzie you need not explain yourself to fools like Harken.
    Before work this afternoon I will be watching Victoria v South Australia lawn bowls at Moama. Tis a magnificent arena, played state pennant against the big boys in Altona, gave them a whipping which was very enjoyable. Will keep you posted Cats and Kitties.

    I pegged you being a lot younger the 112. How wrong was I!

  138. Notafan

    No it doesn’t Arky

    Burmese are darker than Pakistanist and Bangladeshis s can be racist too, not did I claim it was used exclusively against Africans, clearly it is not.

    There is a very long history of being used as a racist slur

    Don’t pretend you aren’t aware of that being the case.

  139. Speedbox

    Oh come on
    #2939584, posted on February 20, 2019 at 9:43 pm

    Michelle won’t throw her hat into the ring until 2024. That’s my take. Now, if I’m right, Obama’s fabled political machine will play a bit part in the 2020 election.

    Despite all the Democrat huffing and puffing, I think the serious contenders are keeping themselves out of the 2020 race. Trump will be very hard to beat partly because he is the incumbent and partly because the economy is strong and millions have jobs they didn’t have previously. Businesses are doing well, people are making money. The Democratic race for nomination is already shaping up to be a complete cluster f*ck and although one candidate will eventually be chosen, it will not be before the Democrats cannibalize each other.

    Why expend millions of $$ in that environment. Wait until Trump is guaranteed to be gone and then pitch your best.

    (The wife of Obama would be a shoe-in for the nomination and she would come speaking of national healing of the divisiveness, reconstruction, ongoing prosperity etc.)

  140. DrBeauGan

    ” racial abuse abounded including the monkey word hurled without cease by the Pakinstanis/Bangladeshis against the Burmese. ”
    ..
    “know that for the very dark skinned monkey/ape is a racist slur “

    ..

    What on earth makes adults care? I don’t mind people calling me names. It’s a school-kid thing to do. It tells us they don’t have much in the way of verbal skills and harbour resentment and quite possibly an inferiority complex.

    I quite understand that I’m a very irritating man. My indifference to name calling probably makes it even worse. See if I care. Grow up,

  141. struth

    Maybe not in your world notafan, but in mine and maybe the little girl at the footy, all people bet called monkeys, especially hairy blokes, or people doing dumb things.

    The little girl, I believe was not being racist, and would have called him something that was worse language if others weren’t around, such is the course vocabulary of Australian children.

    Goodes, who’d be the odd man out in a group of actual aboriginals, is a tragic lefty and virtue signalled and wanted to be a victim to anyone , even a little girl.

    Men call men apes, one of my white mates had virtually one eyebrow and a heavy forehead and went through life known as Neanderthal man.
    It’s more about the hair on backs than anything.

  142. candy

    Harken,
    Bill Clinton, JFK, Donald Trump and probably some Australian PMs had women throwing themselves at them all the time.
    It’s not particularly the mens’ looks, but their place in life, wealth and charisma.

    I always felt Monica Lewinsky was a sad figure. Very young with stars in her eyes and used up by the Clinton machine. Even now, she seems to get no support from feminists – because of the Clinton name.
    Hypocrisy again.

  143. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The popular food fetishes of these cultural enclaves often go hand-in-glove with a neo-pagan mishmash of Gaia-worship, 4th century Gn0sticism, and rejuvenated new age/occult practices. Every religion has its food rituals. The left is no exception.

    Their café precincts, such as in Double Bay, are a sight to behold. They actually pay for lunching on this stuff? We’ve entered cafes there where we’ve had to leave because there was nothing properly edible on sale.
    Only stuff recommended by their latest visit to Dr. Phelps.

  144. struth

    So , If I call a white man a monkey when he is a fool, but dare not call a black man one when he is also a fool, am I being racist?

    So just curious, Notafan.
    What’s your answer to this?

  145. Arky

    Burmese are darker than Pakistanist

    ..
    No, they aren’t.
    But what a stupid discussion to find yourself in.

  146. C.L.

    Also remember the ‘monkeygate’ controversy in cricket involving Andrew [Symonds]

    I do; it was pretty funny because the crowd making the monkey gestures were black Indians.
    Apparently, Indians don’t consider themselves black even though they’re black.
    In that particular case, however, the mockery had more to do with Symonds’ use of zinc than racism.

  147. struth

    C’mon Fharken , you’ve had plenty of time.
    You saw the question when I first posted it.

    Remember you’ve been sent down with heavenly wisdom to impart on us tragic mortals.

  148. Notafan

    I dare say Dr BG

    If you are impervious to unkind words gook luck to you

    That isn’t my point, the ape , monkey the N word and many others have well know connotations.

    Oh and struth you don’t surprise me at all, it isn’t my world, it is the world

    I suppose you would happily walk up to someone with dark skin and call them an ape or a monkey

    but if you want to pretend, that is well known that certain words don’t have well known racism overtones go ahead

    making stuff up is your signature tune after all

  149. Bear Necessities

    Hark! Hey look, the Governor falsely accused of endorsing infanticide seems to have weathered the blackface bit quite well:

    Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam appears to have quelled any widespread public clamor for his resignation in the wake of his blackface scandal.

    Two new polls out Wednesday show pluralities say the Democrat should not quit or be forced out over a racist photo that appeared on his medical-school yearbook page 35 years ago. Most African-American voters agree that he shouldn’t go, according to one of the surveys.

    Ouch, to those who thought he was a goner.

    You can sing along with him performing ‘O’ Dem Golden Slippers’ at his Xmas party this year!

  150. C.L.

    Our investigators exposed this New York abortion facility, which says they will put a born-alive baby in a jar of “solution” to drown her. They also say to “flush” the baby down the toilet, or “put it in a bag” if she’s born alive.

    Standing ovation stuff for Democrats.

  151. Notafan

    Apparently, Indians don’t consider themselves black even though they’re black.

    True

    It is all a matter of shade though

    Colourism is alive and well in India

    Indian society still believes skin colour determines a person’s worth.

  152. Arky

    That’s all. Not interested.

    ..
    Well done Struth.
    You got the bore to give up.

  153. candy

    It’s more about the hair on backs than anything.

    True, but the terms monkey and ape do imply a person less than human, a stupid brainless person, which is the insult wrapped up in a race context. It’s meant to insult and would be hurtful.

    But I think the word ape just popped out of the girl’s mouth as it can happen when we say something stupid without thinking, and not a racist insult. It just happened. Kids should not be shamed though and pointed to like Goodes did as if she was a monster. “The face of racism”, he said. Completely over the top.

  154. Cassie of Sydney

    “My time here is coming to an end in any event. Soon. I’ll let you know when I begin my permanent ascent.”

    Good…now FUCK OFF.

  155. Stimpson J. Cat

    Can you guys stop being racist please.
    Instead of arguing who is most black, you should be arguing who is most white.

    – Catallaxy Diversity Police, Officer Stimpy.

  156. zyconoclast

    I love intersectionality. Wonderfully popcornworthy.

    Students Drop ‘Vagina’ From The Vagina Monologues To Be More ‘Inclusive’

    I think “Monologues” highly uninclusive, so they should change the name of the play to “The”.
    Although calling it just “The” is rather scarily definite and judgemental.

    What do they plan to insert into the hole that was previously occupied by [email protected]?
    Any penetrating suggestions?

  157. struth

    I suppose you would happily walk up to someone with dark skin and call them an ape or a monkey

    but if you want to pretend, that is well known that certain words don’t have well known racism overtones go ahead

    making stuff up is your signature tune after all

    Firstly, Fharken, that was a sad cop out.
    You are not my problem, so I don’t really give a shit.
    History of Socialism is firmly on My side, and your cop out is so typical of lefties who have no answer.
    Pathetic.
    I’ll give you one more chance to answer the question, or I’m done with you.

    Notafan, get back in the kitchen.

    I come from a different world than you , one you have never experienced, and that is men talking to each other without women around.

    men are impervious to unkind words, Notafan, and need to be.
    We don’t get hurt by them, we sling them back.
    This is precisely why you should get back in the kitchen on this issue.
    You bloody women don’t understand the toughness of the world and want to grizzle about shit.
    Words, they’re just bloody words.
    Sticks and stones.
    If you don’t like it, stay in the kitchen.

  158. Stimpson J. Cat

    If you are impervious to unkind words gook luck to you

    OK now this is epic.

  159. The oldish idea “if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes truth”, is worthy of discussion.

    My observations:
    1. The people who accept the lie as truth are more likely to be from a high spot in academia. The peasants are less gullible.
    2. Once the lie is accepted by someone, they in turn are dogmatic in support of the lie. (We have a couple of live examples on this blog).
    3. Defense of the lie (by those who have accepted the propaganda) is akin to an evangelistic preacher. Rationality and logic are cast aside.

    Which groups in our society do cats think are most susceptible to a Goebbelian lie?

  160. Stimpson J. Cat

    Burmese are darker than Pakistanist

    What about Italians?

  161. I have a black mole on my leg. Does that count for anything?

  162. DrBeauGan

    Indian society still believes skin colour determines a person’s worth.

    I feel sorry for anyone dumb enough to care about their skin colour, or what others think of it. Or what their race is. Or any of that garbage. Trying to get others to be indifferent to skin colour is quite unnecessary. All you have to do is stop caring about it yourself. Then anyone daft enough to think it matters won’t affect you.

  163. zyconoclast

    Bangladesh blocks 20,000 websites in anti-p0rn ‘war’
    Social media apps blocked and p0rn0graphy sites taken down by internet providers as part of government crackdown.

  164. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    relatively centrist Left policies

    I see your ‘relatively centrist’ and raise you one Green Nude Eel.

    You’d have to be a total lunatic to see anything centrist in that.

  165. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thank you, Cassie, for clocking him one.
    He thoroughly deserves it.

  166. zyconoclast

    Haiti arrests: US confirms Americans among group detained

    The US state department says it understands that a number of Americans are among a group arrested in Haiti.

    Local media reported semi-automatic weapons had been found but this has not been officially confirmed.

    The circumstances remain unclear but local authorities told CNN the Americans were being held on conspiracy charges, but are not yet indicted.

  167. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I have a black mole on my leg. Does that count for anything?

    It might count for Melanoma. Get it checked.

  168. DrBeauGan

    incoherent rambler
    #2939853, posted on February 21, 2019 at 11:50 am
    I have a black mole on my leg. Does that count for anything?

    I’m prepared to sneer at you for having it if you really want me to.

  169. bespoke

    Iv been called all sorts of names (hard to believe for some) and given back just as much but I, as do my friends reserve the harshest ones for each other. It depends on context and circumstances that little girl could have unknowingly been repeating what she heard. At 12 you don’t have life experience to understand the context. The focus should be on the actions of the adults.

  170. Tom

    Breaking: Cook County State Attorney approves charges against Jussie Smollett for filing a false report to police. More to come.

  171. zyconoclast

    Google admits error over hidden microphone

    Google has acknowledged that it made an error in not disclosing that one of its home alarm products contained a microphone.

    Product specifications for the Nest Guard, available since 2017, had made no mention of the listening device.

    But earlier this month, the firm said a software update would make Nest Guard voice-controlled.

    On Twitter, concerned Nest owners were told the microphone “has not been used up to this point”.

  172. struth

    I feel sorry for anyone dumb enough to care about their skin colour, or what others think of it. Or what their race is. Or any of that garbage. Trying to get others to be indifferent to skin colour is quite unnecessary. All you have to do is stop caring about it yourself. Then anyone daft enough to think it matters won’t affect you.

    I hate to say it, but this is a male mind at work.
    part of the overall cultural change we have experienced by letting women out the kitchen, is that somehow, words can hurt.
    It’s incredible.
    I know for a fact, and I have mentioned it here before.
    Our generation of young men never said a kind word to each other.
    The worst names for your physical appearance that could be thought of were used, and you used it on everyone else, (the old kids could be cruel schtick, never leaves men by themselves)
    And it’s funny.
    Yet better mates you could not get.
    Then along comes the letting in of women and all that fun is supposed to stop.
    Everyone is walking around on egg shells.

    We have got to get them back in the kitchen, so we can have fun abusing each other verbally like we once did.
    Nothing funnier.

    Notafan , make your vicious attack on me quick, I only have a one more cup of coffee worth of arguing time.

  173. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I read that the little girl from the football fracas was running around at school the next day with her friends, who to support her were calling each other ‘ape’. Planet of the Apes was a pretty popular show that may have entered the argot of a lot of kids. The apes in that were different, but not stupid. If she had any idea about apes as ‘the other’ I expect it came from that rather than from misapplied evolutionary theory.

    Thirteen year old girls are just that, the product of only thirteen years of socio-cultural input.
    How they manage in this day and age of cultural overload beats me, and I admire them.
    They stick together, and that’s how they roll.

  174. Stimpson J. Cat

    I have a black mole on my leg. Does that count for anything?

    You have an excess of cancerous white skin around your benign black mole.
    Have it all cut out.

  175. Snoopy

    Rafer Weigel
    Rafer Weigel
    @RaferWeigel
    ·
    3m
    #CPD says #JussieSmollett charged with a class 4 felony for disorderly conduct for filing a false police report. He’s due in bond court tomorrow at 1:30 PM central time. The question is, will he appear?

  176. struth

    I was called all sorts of names, the worst by my mates, but in that lies the fun.
    They still want to hang around you, and you them, even though the worst abuse is flying.
    I’d think Monkey was a compliment.
    It helps make a bloke.
    I actually miss the abuse.
    Maybe that’s why I’m here.
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……………………………………..

  177. struth

    Hurry up with the hurtful stuff Notafan, god I hope you haven’t actually gone back in the kitchen!

    I’d feel like a real mongrel, then.

  178. feelthebern

    With reference to the Glencore coal comments up thread, let’s look at another cartel.
    The seaborne iron ore market.
    Iron ore prices are sky high to where they have been over the previous 12-months.
    A lot of that has been put on Vale’s current problems which is forecast to take appox. 40mill tpa out of the market for the next 4 years (my view is that they will be back & up & running well before that).
    That said, you’d expect Aussie producers to ramp up production.
    Nope, they’ve reduced exports by approx 6%, further fuelling the recent price hikes.
    See the goal of a cartel is to exploit whatever you can to increase the price of whatever you are in a cartel to flog.

  179. DrBeauGan

    part of the overall cultural change we have experienced by letting women out the kitchen, is that somehow, words can hurt.
    It’s incredible.

    It’s simple, Struth, you just have to stop caring what women think.

  180. thefrollickingmole

    Splatacrobat

    Worrying lack of diversity in your “hours gender gap” clip above.
    Unless you count the flocks of sheep the larger ladies on the panel had for lunch.

    Can you guys stop being racist please.
    Instead of arguing who is most black, you should be arguing who is most white.

    – Catallaxy Diversity Police, Officer Stimpy.

    See the hours gap clip above Stimp, whiter than Whitey Whiteheads bleach van running into a bus full of fully robed KKK members in a blizzard.

  181. You have an excess of cancerous white skin around your benign black mole.
    Have it all cut out.

    Thank you Dr. Stimpy. I will see to it at once.

  182. struth

    I have a black mole on my leg. Does that count for anything?

    That depends.
    Are you in Alice Springs?

  183. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thirteen. What a strange and beautiful age, for both boys and girls.
    I was a fairly hopeless thirteen year old, but I did my best with it.
    My daughter did better, much better.

    My three sons have all needed a man around to cope with pubertal testosterone.
    I don’t know how women with teenage sons cope alone, unless they have male rellies to help.

  184. bespoke

    My indifference to name calling

    All Cat’s should take this as a challenge by Drpoopyface.

  185. Struth:

    We have just found out, as we are looking into it that all payments to employees must now go through government no matter how small your business and the employee must register on the government website to see their payslip.
    Too early to tell just looking into it.

    This was floated by the Brit Tax Office about five years ago. I keep mentioning it but it somehow doesn’t come up in the Cat mindstream.
    The Inland Revenooers were quite serious about the concept.

    Just imagine the bureaucracy required to work out everyone’s pay.
    Just imagine the screams of rage from the proles when allowances were done wrong.
    Incredible – it would be like a whole government department gathering wood for their own live collective cremation.

  186. struth

    It’s simple, Struth, you just have to stop caring what women think.

    You must have picked up by now, that’s not in my modern, caring, metrosexual man bun persona.
    I just can’t help it, I do care what they think, I , sniff, really do.

  187. struth

    Now I am concerned.
    Notafan, you haven’t really gone back to the kitchen, have you?

    I miss you already.

    I’m sorry, I didn’t mean it, sniff, come back.

  188. You higher electricity bill is because roonybaubles are cheaper.

    Goebbel Warming causes cooling.

  189. Roger

    Indian society still believes skin colour determines a person’s worth.

    Indians are also the most depressed people in the world according to a WHO study.

    No wonder those who come here seem so happy – they’ve escaped the prison of Indian culture with its social stratification and taboos and have come to a society where they are judged as individuals.

  190. Snoopy

    Video. Smollett’s ‘attackers’ buying their kit.

  191. Clean electricity
    FFS do they wash the electrons?

  192. DrBeauGan

    What you are talking about in describing the verbal abuse of your school mates, Struth, is the ability to separate the words from their meaning in context. You could perceive that there was no malice in it, or your response would have been different.

    What has changed culturally is that we are taking seriously the crass inadequates who can’t read intentions or context. Hence the Goodes response. No honest adult would have interpreted a kid’s abuse as anything to get upset about.

  193. struth

    This was floated by the Brit Tax Office about five years ago.

    Family has ten employed, accountant apparently said they all have to register the employees and if the employees want their payslips, they go to the government web site.
    Sounds like one of those cases where some f/wit in the gov is calling it compulsory when it isn’t, as they have a want.
    They are in the process of finding out more.

  194. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It’s simple, Struth, you just have to stop caring what women think.

    And that is exakerly why I am so needed here.
    ‘Cos mostly you don’t have much clue about what women think.
    We have to keep you in line; we think a lot about that.
    We also think a lot about what men like, and what kids do.
    Those things are important to us. We are nest-makers, first and foremost.
    We do venture out occasionally and do excellent things, as you honest men know. 🙂

  195. DrBeauGan

    bespoke
    #2939886, posted on February 21, 2019 at 12:12 pm
    My indifference to name calling

    All Cat’s should take this as a challenge by Drpoopyface.

    😁😎😊

    Go for it, children.

  196. Baldrick

    Smollett now unlikely to even get a bit-part in a hamburger helper commercial:

    Anthony Guglielmi ✔ @AJGuglielmi
    Felony criminal charges have been approved by @CookCountySAO against Jussie Smollett for Disorderly Conduct / Filing a False Police Report. Detectives will make contact with his legal team to negotiate a reasonable surrender for his arrest.

  197. Bruce of Newcastle

    Apparently, Indians don’t consider themselves black even though they’re black.
    In that particular case, however, the mockery had more to do with Symonds’ use of zinc than racism.

    That is zincist.
    Indians would die without zinc fingers.

  198. Stimpson J. Cat

    All Cat’s should take this as a challenge by Drpoopyface.

    Stop bullying the nerd that can count.
    And give him back his pocket protector.

    – Catallaxy Human Rights Commission,
    Officer Stimpy.

  199. Bruce of Newcastle

    Smollett now unlikely to even get a bit-part in a hamburger helper commercial

    Not so. He’s crazy like a Fox.

    FOX Studios Doubles Down: ‘Consummate Professional’ Jussie Smollett to Remain on ‘Empire’

    “Jussie Smollett continues to be a consummate professional on set and as we have previously stated, he is not being written out of the show,” said 20th Century Fox Television and Fox Entertainment.

    Rate its socks off, no doubt. I wonder if he’ll get day release to do his part?

  200. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Felony criminal charges have been approved by @CookCountySAO against Jussie Smollett for Disorderly Conduct / Filing a False Police Report.

    How about conspiracy to defraud? He had something to gain by all of this.

  201. struth

    Wasn’t just school DrB.
    All the men on this site, not just me, grew up the same.
    Constantly getting and receiving abuse, right up until the culture changed.

    And it has changed substantially.

    When work was actually done and it was tedious and hard, men used to be noisy in work places, with an Australian sense of humour that was so politically incorrect it was awesome.
    Got you through the day, and means , actually, through that abuse and name calling etc, everyone became even more of an individual.
    Who never had a two dicks at work?
    We had a young bloke, skinny as a rake , called killer.
    Couldn’t even weld he shook so much from being an alcoholic.

    etc, I can’t remember.
    I was nicknamed verandah head at one work place, due to a cow lick my hair used to sit on.
    Still does but not so much now with it now receding a bit.
    In describing it, you actually lose it.
    You felt very much like an individual, and also, actually enjoyed it immensely, however, we are now, coming from this background, supposed to worry about names and words?

    FMD.

  202. struth

    Notafan has refused to abuse me.
    She knows I hate that.

    This is the worst thing you could do to me notafan.
    I hope you’re happy.
    My coffee’s finished and I must go, and you’ve left me unabused.

    That’s low.
    Real low.

    Seriously….
    Have a lovely day cats

  203. Confused Old Misfit

    Yeah Struth,
    You’re a right arsehole, mate!
    But you’re OK.

  204. C.L.

    Next option for Smollett: the ‘suicide risk’/’lay off the dude’ play.
    I’m betting he will claim the whole thing was a film luvvies’ prank to protest Twump’s wacist America.
    He will say he only carried on with it to protect the Nigerians or something.
    Coupled with the extreme unlikelihood of a custodial sentence, his career will probably survive.

  205. Arky

    Coupled with the extreme unlikelihood of a custodial sentence, his career will probably survive.

    ..
    No. If the hoax is proven he carried on too much in the interview.
    He is done.

  206. Snoopy

    Smollett still has Federal postal service charges to come.

  207. DrBeauGan

    I was nicknamed verandah head at one work place, due to a cow lick my hair used to sit on.
    Still does but not so much now with it now receding a bit.
    In describing it, you actually lose it.
    You felt very much like an individual, and also, actually enjoyed it immensely, however, we are now, coming from this background, supposed to worry about names and words?

    There’s a lot to be said for not giving a stuff.

  208. Mother Lode

    I have a black mole on my leg. Does that count for anything?

    It makes you more a person of colour than Elizabeth Warren an American Indian.

    If you get asked for a traditional recipe might I recommend Chicken Cordon Bleu to be served with a traditional lightly-oaked chardonnay – or even a less heavy champers. Pol Roger is my fave at present and I think would go well.

  209. C.L.

    Children of feminism:
    California College Calls Police Over Cartoon ‘Pepe’ Frog Poster.

    An FLC faculty member found the sheet featuring Pepe the frog on their office door earlier in February. The school informed the Los Rios, California Police Department about the incident …

  210. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Plenty of Shorty’s around for the six footer males in my youth. Along with Bluey’s for redheads, and the occasional Donkey or Dipstick denigrating the known to be well-endowed. Also Bruiser for the timid, and Boofhead for anyone who was a whiz at adding up. Four-eyes or Snogs for the wearers of glasses and Useless for the team leader on numerous jobs. This is the sort of thing that made the Aussies have the best survival rates in the Japanese prison camps, and we have only lost it recently, as recently as the past fifteen years.

  211. DrBeauGan

    Stop bullying the nerd that can count.
    And give him back his pocket protector.

    – Catallaxy Human Rights Commission,
    Officer Stimpy.

    Is that the best you can do, stimpmeister? Disappointing.

  212. Old School Conservative

    A good comment from C.L.’s link:

    “hate has no home on our campus.”

    That ought to empty out your university.

  213. Baldrick

    Yumi Stynes was unavailable for comment …

    Sky News Australia ✔ @SkyNewsAust
    NT Police are investigating the alleged sexual assault of a seven-year-old girl in Darwin’s Bagot community

  214. Bruce of Newcastle

    When work was actually done and it was tedious and hard, men used to be noisy in work places, with an Australian sense of humour that was so politically incorrect it was awesome. …I was nicknamed verandah head at one work place

    Played a social cricket match with the works side. Other side was the Magnetic Island pub. A couple backpackers were enjoying a trip around Oz – a young lady from Pommyland and a guy from Holland. So they were invited to partake in the sacrament known as Cricket.

    They had a fun time at crease for a few overs, because rule that you couldn’t get out for a duck. Eventually they each got a run. After a while captain points to me so I decide ok the other pub guys deserve a tonk too. I bowl two ultra-slow straight ones. Skittle stumps. Exit two backpackers. Instantly my nickname forever after was Ivan.

  215. DrBeauGan

    This is the sort of thing that made the Aussies have the best survival rates in the Japanese prison camps, and we have only lost it recently, as recently as the past fifteen years.

    Nothing like enough bullying in the schools. I blame the women teachers for the shortfall.

  216. DrBeauGan

    Instantly my nickname forever after was Ivan.

    Why Ivan? I don’t get it.

  217. Bruce of Newcastle

    Backpackers.
    Ivan…

  218. Notafan

    Oh poor struth

    if I say something about your lazy unsupported arguments it is a ‘vicious attack’ but if someone uses a well known racist slur it is something else

    you really have a progressive mind (vicious enough?)

    btw women bad men good is as nonsensical as men bad women good

  219. mh

    Snoopy
    #2939918, posted on February 21, 2019 at 12:42 pm
    Smollett still has Federal postal service charges to come.

    Yes. Jussie sent a letter saying he was going to kill the “black fag”.

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