Wednesday Forum: February 20, 2019

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  1. stackja

    Lawyer X to be unmasked after Court of Appeal rules in Herald Sun’s favour
    Herald Sun
    February 21, 2019 6:33pm
    Subscriber only

    Victoria’s highest court has ruled in the Herald Sun’s favour and ordered that the identity of Lawyer X can be unmasked.

    In a major victory for transparency and the public’s right to know, the Court of Appeal today rejected a legal bid by Victoria Police to keep the barrister’s name and image under wraps.

    The court ordered that, after a five-year legal battle, the Herald Sun should be able to reveal Lawyer X’s identity on Friday, March 1.

    In a 2014 letter, Lawyer X wrote of sense of betrayal that her role as an informer had been exposed in the face of police assurances it would be hidden.

    “Victoria Police failed to properly and adequately protect my identity as an informer/human source: it is difficult to imagine a greater breach of its duty of care,” she wrote.

    “On a personal level I feel betrayed by the very people in whom I placed my trust that they would maintain my confidential role and that it would never ever become publicly known.”

    The High Court had ruled in December: “EF’s (the lawyer’s) actions in purporting to act as counsel for the convicted persons while covertly informing against them were fundamental and appalling breaches of EF’s obligations as counsel to her clients and of EF’s duties to the court,” the High Court said.

    “Likewise, Victoria Police were guilty of reprehensible conduct in knowingly encouraging EF to do as she did and were involved in sanctioning atrocious breaches of the sworn duty of every police officer to discharge all duties imposed on them faithfully and according to law without favour or affection, malice or ill-will.

    “The public interest in preserving EF’s (the lawyer’s) anonymity must be subordinated to the integrity of the criminal justice system.”

  2. stackja

    Unions win battle to renegotiate workplace agreement for West Gate Tunnel
    Kieran Rooney and James Dowling, Herald Sun
    February 21, 2019 5:23pm
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    An industrial stoush over the West Gate Tunnel is heating up, with Victoria’s construction unions forcing the consortium running the $6.7 billion project back to the negotiating table.

    John Holland and CPB Contractors last year kicked off a bitter battle with the five unions tied to the project after using a little-known legal loophole to push through a workplace deal without their support.

    But the Fair Work Commission today rejected the agreement that would have meant most tunnel workers could earn more than $180,000 with penalties, overtime and other allowances.

  3. struth

    I reckon Trump will Romp it in, JC.
    Remember to look at the process, the debates, the way he campaigns, the awakening of the people and the absolute shite for presidential candidates the dems have.

    I wonder why you are concerned about holding US stock/money?

  4. stackja

    Government report on Opal Tower finds number of ‘design and construction issues’
    Danielle Le Messurier, The Daily Telegraph
    February 21, 2019 1:32pm
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    An independent report commissioned by the NSW government into building defects at the troubled Opal Tower is expected to point the finger at the building’s designers and engineers.

    The state government is expected to hand down its final report into the 36-storey Sydney Olympic Park tower today more than eight weeks after cracking appeared on Christmas Eve, sparking the evacuation of around 300 residents.

    n relation to the case of the problem, a source close to the Opal Tower investigation said changes were made to the design of the building which made it “non-compliant” with the Building Code of Australia.

  5. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Secondly, by his own admission he didn’t want to go to Vietnam, he was forced to.

    Went “back to school” in 1990, as a mature aged student. One of the lecturers had been the education officer, in one of the last infantry battalions to tour the “fun factory.”

    ” National Servicemen had to sign the declaration, that they would agree to serve overseas, if they were posted there. If they didn’t sign the deceleration, they couldn’t be posted to Vietnam, but they couldn’t be posted to Malaysia, or Singapore, which were pretty highly regarded.”

    “I had the job of handing out the declarations, to the Nasho’s. They thought it was a joke – “Oy, we are all going, why aren’t you?”

    “Not putting your name down? Don’t want to to go along with the rest of us?”

  6. JC

    I really have no great interest in a conversation from 2012. I think numbers nuts was just new to the site, or relatively new and he was totally out of his mind then as now. I don”t read him but get an idea what he’s saying by reading the 2000 comments directed to him.

    Yes, at the time I thought he could be the Q&A dude, which is why I asked.

    The Q&A dude was presenting his service to the country (a few times) in order to demonstrate he was owed his son be allowed to marry a bloke. This didn’t happen one time. I think he went on a few times starting off with the Vietnam service routine and then demanding his son should be allowed to marry. The guy was a dick for using his service in order to promote such a thing. it was also funny and the site does make light of these sorts of leftie attempts at tugging on the emoti0nal strings. Surely this doesn’t offend you now.

    I guess you would not support your own kid in similar circumstances.

    Absolutely not. If I had a gay kid, I’d still love him, but at the same time I would not support his lifestyle in any way. Funnily enough, we know people in these circumstances and its broken the family apart. The mother supports the daughter “marrying” a woman and the father doesn’t. He did not attend the “wedding” and the parents are divorcing. The five kids are totally broken up with two supporting the mother and the rest going with the father. Totally awful, but at the same time the father stood his ground and I respect that.

    Brett, this is only a blog and I think you take things far too seriously. The point I was making about racial slurs is that it doesn’t upset me really. What I do get annoyed with (about this) is that I believe those making those slurs are so beneath contempt…not because of the slurs.. but who they are. They’re pretty low on the human pyramid. In fact, they would have built the pyramids in the old days.

    Look, I may have been harsh with you in the past… okay recently… but let roosters be roosters… just kidding…. and start again. Try though, to avoid a few of the things that annoy… like rhetorical questions at the end of a comment and many other things…:-)

    This should be good deal. !

  7. BrettW

    Arky,
    As I said I dont agree with Numbers on many aspects of what he says. Hence why I gave up reading the exchanges.

    However he has for quite a few years identified himself by his Army number which is easily checkable. He has also written a book about his time in Vietnam which he has linked to. I have never seen it and have no intent to read it. However I would say any battalion member who hyped his role in Vietnam or wrote something incorrectly would soon be picked up for it by other members who were there with him.

    I have seen comments posted here (some may be in old threads)
    where it was suggested he should be reported to the ANZMI imposters web page
    or that the Vietnam roll web page (which only shows time in Vietnam not total time served) indicated he was lying about his service.

    Clearly some people have no idea what they are talking about. On the other hand there are some here who served in Vietnam who disagree with some of what he has said. I have no idea if they are right or wrong. In my own personal experience I have spoken to Vietnam veterans or read about their version of the same event and they had quite a variation in how they recalled the same incident. One such incident brought out the threat of defamation proceedings such was the difference in recollection of what happened.

    Clearly Numbers did not appreciate having to serve in Vietnam and has views that many strongly disagree with. However I dont think that is an excuse for some to try belittle his actual Vietnam service.

    Arky
    #2940532, posted on February 22, 2019 at 12:12 am
    He is certainly an interesting case.
    At least he has the courage to put himself out there.

  8. Infidel Tiger

    Everyone’s Missing the Obvious About the Declining U.S. Birth Rate

    Complete and utter horseshit.

    Every single point indisputably wrong, misleading our an outright lie.

  9. JC

    Every single point indisputably wrong, misleading our an outright lie.

    Explain why. It’s not a gotcha, I’m really interested in why you think that.

  10. JC

    Struth

    In my mind it’s a 25% up bet to 2024 if he wins, to 70% down if he loses. 50% down in stocks and 20% in currency. I really don’t know what to do.

    The betting on the election will begin in early 2020 in earnest. I want to be in a safe space by then. I may just buy swiss francs over the year and hedge that way.

  11. C.L.

    George Weigel rightly calls Governor Andrew Cuomo’s behaviour “demonic.”

    The moral depravity of Andrew Cuomo & Friends.

    Of all the obscenities surrounding Governor Cuomo’s January 22 signing of a bill whose title (“The Reproductive Health Act”) would make George Orwell gag, the most cringe-inducing was the signing ceremony itself. You can watch it on YouTube, if you’ve the stomach for it. The ceremony is replete with the self-congratulatory political blather to which many of us have become inured. What is truly sickening is the unholy glee with which Cuomo signed this sordid bill — a demonic mirth shared by the other miscreants on the platform with him.

    Just what are these people celebrating?

    The New York RHA declares abortion on demand, at any moment in a pregnancy, up to birth, a fundamental right. A healthy infant born in New York State today could have been legally killed yesterday, according to the RHA. And the killing would not be pretty. For third-trimester abortions involve either poisoning the unborn child or collapsing its skull by the grotesque procedure known as “dilation and extraction;” the mother then gives “birth” to a dead baby who’s been executed in a manner that would revolt anyone with an iota of feeling, were similar violence perpetrated on a dog or cat.

    RTWT.

  12. JC

    the mother then gives “birth” to a dead baby who’s been executed in a manner that would revolt anyone with an iota of feeling, were similar violence perpetrated on a dog or cat.

    Leaving a mother aside. What “doctor” could perform such an abomination?

  13. C.L.

    Meanwhile … New York’s bishop, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, is appalled by the cruelty …
    … of those criticising Governor Cuomo:

    Asked by CNN Religion Editor Dan Burke about the calls for Gov. Cuomo to be excommunicated over New York’s new abortion bill, Dolan’s spokesman said he would “not discuss any individual,” but that “excommunication should not be used as a weapon.”

    “Too often, I fear, those who call for someone’s excommunication do so out of anger or frustration,” Dolan’s spokesman said in the statement.

    New York cardinal: Excommunicating pro-abortion politicians ‘not an appropriate response’.

    He won’t use this weapon to defend babies being massacred.

  14. DrBeauGan

    Leaving a mother aside. What “doctor” could perform such an abomination?

    The kind of doctor who never listens to his conscience and has replaced it by following the rules of conduct laid down by others. In this case, feminist ideologues.

    It’s not uncommon to stifle the conscience and replace it with rules provided by authority. It makes people less than human. But they stay with the in-crowd.

  15. C.L.

    I’m guessing most abortion ‘doctors’ are fourth-rate medicos. Kind of like the ship surgeons of yore. Unfit for regular medical careers and almost certainly replete with sociopaths and misanthropes.

  16. bespoke

    It’s not uncommon to stifle the conscience and replace it with rules provided by authority. It makes people less than human.

    Don’t have to be a history professor to no what happened last time.

  17. JC

    The US Supreme Court does good sometimes.

    Justices Against Unjust Forfeiture
    The Supreme Court says state seizures can violate the Constitution.

    Police and prosecutors around America have long used asset forfeiture as a cash cow, but a unanimous Supreme Court ruling Wednesday should make them think twice. The Bill of Rights keeps paying dividends even after 228 years.

    Tyson Timbs was caught selling heroin in Indiana. The maximum fine under state law was $10,000, yet the cops seized his $42,000 Land Rover. He had bought the car with legal money, but police said it was still forfeit because he had used it to transport the drugs.

    In state courts, Mr. Timbs argued that this out-of-proportion penalty violated the Eighth Amendment, which bars “cruel and unusual punishments” and “excessive fines.” Lower courts ruled in his favor. But the Indiana Supreme Court held that the ban on excessive fines didn’t apply to the states.

    and get a load of this.

    The important practical point is that the Court’s ruling in Timbs v. Indiana puts states and cities on notice. Some police departments have set annual targets for asset seizures, and a limiting legal principle has been nowhere to be found. During oral argument, Indiana’s solicitor general said that if a driver in a Ferrari was going five miles over the speed limit, that could be grounds for police to take the car.

    The Justices did not set a standard for what counts as an “excessive” seizure, so specific cases will no doubt play out in challenges to police abuses in lower courts. But defendants trying to protect their property against unjust state seizure will now have the Constitution firmly on their side.

  18. BrettW

    JC,
    One of your better posts !. However you forgot to ask me to use HTML properly !

    I have lived next to two gay guys (50 +) and had no issues with them whatsoever. My issue tends to be with the Mardi Gras type activists who give the “quiet” gays a bad name. Years ago I worked in a very blokey type of environment and years later found out one male co-worker was gay. Nobody could have picked it as no signs whatever. My daughter’s longest friend going back 20 years has a lesbian mother. You would be hard pressed to find a better mother and the daughter is now married with a kid. I have no issues with those who dont flaunt it but strongly opposed to things like safe schools, ADF marching in mardi gras in uniform, those who want to force others to bake cakes etc.

    I have lived in 7 countries all up and reckon I am fairly well adjusted regarding mixing will all types of backgrounds. If I choose to insult somebody it would not normally be based on ethnic background. An a..hole can come from anywhere.

    I actually knew a guy several years ago through work who was of Italian heritage. Early thirties. When he called me he actually said a couple of times “Hi, this is Tony the Italian Stallion”. Weird. He even had a T shirt with it on. He married a Greek girl so naturally their favourite movie was Captain Correlli’s Mandolin !

    However as you say this is only a blog. Since you say I sometimes take it too seriously how about you lighten up a bit also ?

    Now gotta go as some people have to work in the morning.

  19. BrettW

    Miami Vice are going to be very unhappy about this !

    JC
    #2940571, posted on February 22, 2019 at 1:56 am

  20. C.L.

    Glenn Reynolds and Reason.com have been cataloguing the police-forfeiture racket for years. Some of the cases they’ve highlighted are simply astonishing; literally, acts of armed robbery. Not only is the Supreme Court ruling great news, the unanimous verdict augurs well for (eventual) case law on what is “excessive”.

  21. JC

    Agent Orange’s going all Silicon Valley? WTF!

    I want 5G, and even 6G, technology in the United States as soon as possible. It is far more powerful, faster, and smarter than the current standard. American companies must step up their efforts, or get left behind. There is no reason that we should be lagging behind on………

    and

    …something that is so obviously the future. I want the United States to win through competition, not by blocking out currently more advanced technologies. We must always be the leader in everything we do, especially when it comes to the very exciting world of technology!

  22. JC

    I’m shocked, aren’t you?

    Gillian Triggs — lauded by the Left and attacked by the Right during a five-year term as Australia’s human rights commissioner — has revealed she is backing the Greens candidate in her home seat in the federal election due by May.

    She said she was backing the Greens’ Steph Hodgins-May in the Melbourne seat of ­Macnam­ara because her values aligned with those of the minor party’s candidate.

  23. Mitch M.

    Complete and utter horseshit.

    Every single point indisputably wrong, misleading our an outright lie.

    Go F yourself. I’m sick and tired of your supercilious attitude that allows you to criticize without analysis. Go start your precious village. You’ll never do that because you are just another loud mouth idiot who doesn’t have the courage of his convictions. You are just another raving loonie longing for the good ol’ days. I’m outta here.

  24. Top Ender

    Gillian Triggs…has revealed she is backing the Greens candidate in her home seat in the federal election

    So disliked by the general public for her past work, that her support will probably LOSE the Greens some votes.

  25. Tintarella di Luna

    Gillian Triggs — lauded by the Left and attacked by the Right during a five-year term as Australia’s human rights commissioner — has revealed she is backing the Greens candidate in her home seat in the federal election due by May.

    She said she was backing the Greens’ Steph Hodgins-May in the Melbourne seat of ­Macnam­ara because her values aligned with those of the minor party’s candidate.

    Read that article in the Oz just now: Ms Triggs reminds me of the somnambulant Lady Macbeth in Act 5 Scene 1 as though virtual signalling will somehow erase the ‘spots’, her delay in inquiry into 2,000 children in detention when the boats started again under Labor, her treatment of 3 penniless University students being crushed by an out of control star chamber over which she presided and treatment of the most vulnerable in our community, including one very close to home. Out damned spot indeed.

  26. Mater

    JC
    #2940441, posted on February 21, 2019 at 10:25 pm

    They should have been disowned immediately we become aware of their intent.

    They can be disowned either through execution or lifetime stretches in jail.

    JC,
    Gathering sufficient evidence from within the caliphate from a group of people that are actively hostile to western authorities (and would probably face the wrath of their fellow religionists if they did), is proving exceedingly difficult, unless posted it Facebook. Anything we can get doesn’t really measure up to western standards of proof and they will almost certainly go free – kind of ironic, hey.

    This is not like gathering up evidence on Kim Philby and his ilk. This is a situation which is unprecedented. Not only are the old conventions unsuitable to address it, they are actively being co-opted to undermine and endanger the very people for whom they were written to protect.

    As Arky rightly points out, if these conventions are so well drafted, so important and so magnanimous, why are we seeing ever increasingly injustice creep into our society?

    You are right, they were written with the best of intentions, but they have long since been weaponised and only a select group seem to be able to wield them (and that is not us).

  27. Up The Workers!

    Something about this whole “Jizzy Smellitt” farce, is decidedly ‘on-the-nose’.

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Thanks Tom.
    All of the Jussie Mullet cartoons are brilliant.
    Fertile ground.

  29. Baldrick

    Thanks Tom. Gary Varvel wins today.

  30. Top Ender

    Only in the Territory Department – a nice sense of humour from the defence counsel:

    Denigan clear over shooting
    CRAIG DUNLOP

    Mick Denigan has been found not guilty of unlawfully causing serious harm to Thomas McIntyre, who entered Mr Denigan’s isolated property at Fly Creek through a locked gate armed with an axe

    WHIP maker Mick Denigan says he will resume his life as normal after leaving the Supreme Court a free man.

    A jury yesterday morning found Mr Denigan not guilty of unlawfully causing serious harm to Thomas McIntyre, who entered Mr Denigan’s isolated property at Fly Creek through a locked gate armed with an axe in the dead of night on February 18 last year.

    Mr Denigan shot him in the thigh and said: “You have five seconds to get the f*** off my property or the next one will be going in your head.”

    On the steps of the Supreme Court Mr Denigan said his priorities now were to “go and make some whips”.

    Mr Denigan told the NT News shortly before the verdict was delivered that he never thought he did anything wrong and was thankful that diligent police found the axe Mr McIntyre had been brandishing. “Otherwise nobody would have believed me,” he said.

    Mr Denigan’s case – accepted by the jury after less than 45 minutes of deliberation – was that he acted in self-defence when he shot Mr McIntyre, who arrived at the property with two other men.

    Mr Denigan’s barrister Jon Tippett QC said the prosecution case, that Mr McIntyre only planned to have a “quiet conversation” with Mr Denigan that night, was “just bloody rubbish”.

    The jury’s acquittal of Mr Denigan leaves Mr McIntyre as the only person to be found guilty of an offence after the confrontation, having pleaded guilty to going armed with an offensive weapon.

    Summing up the case to the jury yesterday morning, Justice Anthony Graham said they had to take into account the isolation of Mr Denigan’s property.

    “What might not be justified in Cullen Bay at midday might be justified at Fly Creek at midnight,” he said.

    “Why would three men set off late at night to go to Denigan’s home? Was it simply to have a quiet chat to him … or was it for a more sinister reason? That’s a matter for you.”

    He also said the jurors needed to assess the credibility of the witnesses.

    “Did the witness have some axe to grind, do you think?”

    “What might not be justified in Cullen Bay … might be justified at Fly Creek “

  31. Farmer Gez

    Now Dan Andrews is stealing from the kids.
    All money held in term deposits by State schools have to be transferred to an approved government account.
    Schools usually have money in term deposits that are built up over years and provide a handy reserve for spending that is ad hoc and not worth the the grind of applying for DET funding.

    Uncle Joe Andrews has appropriated the this money into his skimming account. Funds could attract 2.9% interest currently but Dan will only pay 2.4%, the difference is pocketed by the State. It may sound a small amount but taken over the entire school system, it adds up.

    This also cuts out the ability of the school to use the Bendigo Bank’s community grant system scheme.

    Dan will no doubt announce this money as new spending for education and the ABC will announce the wonderful news without question.

  32. Zatara

    Chicago Police Supterintendent Johnson lit Smollet up in the press conference.

    It takes a brave and honest man to stand up for the truth in the face of the rabid left.

    Salute Superintendent Johnson!

  33. calli

    Latham doing serious wrongthink on Sunrise. He’s not buying into the Bishop tonguebath.

    Criticises her for poor work as Foreign Minister. And the leaking – “she gets good press because she leaks to the media”.

    The masks on those smooth, happy wymynses faces slipped bigtime.

  34. Zatara

    More on a topic of interest from yesterday.

    Even After Sanders, Harris, and Others Enter Race, Bookies Have Donald Trump as Massive 2020 Favorite

    In the latest batch of odds, released just after Bernie’s announcement, Trump is the overwhelming 3-2 favorite for reelection.
    Kamala Harris is showing 8 to 1 at the moment
    Dwayne “The Rock’ Johnson is at 80-to-1

  35. calli

    I was hoping against hope that Johnson would be a black man. He is.

    He also has a face that has the hideousness of what he has seen etched on it.

  36. Old School Conservative

    The use of the word “bullying” is out of control. It is now used to describe every imbalance of power no matter how large.
    China’s decision to ban Australian coal is described today as bullying.
    It isn’t. Banning coal is a strategic warning to lay off Chinese businesses. Allowing China access to Australia ports, property, universities and citizenships will see the ban lifted.

    I’m tempted to copy John Constantine and end with “Comrades”.

  37. Bruce of Newcastle

    One for Lizzie.

    Terrifying moment GIANT snake hangs from telegraph pole and HOISTS prey into sky – VIDEO

    Currawongs aren’t small, so having a carpet python that size living in your roof would be daunting.

  38. pete m

    Topender, it seems the judge made that statement during summing up making it even more lol.

  39. Old School Conservative

    calli
    #2940611, posted on February 22, 2019 at 7:30 am
    I was hoping against hope that Johnson would be a black man. He is

    I guess you mean Chicago Police Supterintendent Johnson, not Dwayne “The Rock’ Johnson!

  40. Farmer Gez

    The coal ban by China would normally receive attention and comment from a Shadow Foreign minister.
    Waiting Penny….waiting.

  41. Old School Conservative

    Waiting Penny….waiting.

    I’m sure Shanghai Sam has a lot to say about the coal ban. Also waiting.

  42. Peter

    Commercial radio reporting to the effect that Jussie paid two Trump supporters to beat him up. I didn’t know a Trump was big in Nigeria.

  43. calli

    Michael Murphy brown bread. One less waste of food.

  44. Empire 5:5

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/02/20/wednesday-forum-february-20-2019/comment-page-4/#comment-2940110

    If Alexander Downer was telling the truth and the FBI heard about a Russian connection from Joe Hockey, then it is absolutely the case that both Julie Bishop as minister for foreign affairs and prime minister Malcolm Turnbull and, therefore, the Commonwealth government, interfered on behalf of the Clinton campaign in the 2016 Presidential election.

    https://www.spectator.com.au/2018/09/deep-state-downer-the-foreign-minister-the-pm-and-the-clinton-campaign/

  45. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    4h
    .
    @JussieSmollett
    – what about MAGA and the tens of millions of people you insulted with your racist and dangerous comments!? #MAGA

    Jussie saw what playing the victim did for Colin Kaepernick – made him mega-rich.

  46. Top Ender

    Had this comment just rejected by the Oz, underneath the article about the Triggster showing her true colours:

    Good to see Triggs has recovered her memory in time to remember her loyalties.

    Her memory wasn’t so good when she was being paid by all of us.

    She somehow forgot to start an inquiry into children being held in detention.

    And forgot to order an investigation into the three poverty-stricken uni students who had been kicked out of an aboriginal-only computer lab. (Who knew we had apartheid in this country?)

    Now she’s suddenly remembered to help her mates.

    Have fired off an email to their complaints section to see what happens.

  47. Nob

    Farmer Gez
    #2940616, posted on February 22, 2019 at 7:51 am
    The coal ban by China would normally receive attention and comment from a Shadow Foreign minister.
    Waiting Penny….waiting

    Waiting for instructions from Bill “I’ll have whatever she’s having” Shorten who’s waiting for … a diversion.

  48. rickw

    If Alexander Downer was telling the truth and the FBI heard about a Russian connection from Joe Hockey, then it is absolutely the case that both Julie Bishop as minister for foreign affairs and prime minister Malcolm Turnbull and, therefore, the Commonwealth government, interfered on behalf of the Clinton campaign in the 2016 Presidential election.

    Australia is the deep end of the swamp.

  49. Top Ender

    The idiot sub-editors of news.com.au are showing off their doubtful skills:

    The widow of Anita Cobby, who was brutally murdered by five men in 1986, has celebrated the death of one of her killers.

    Who knew Anita was in an SSM relationship way back then?

    Reading further down, it becomes clearer. Cobby was married to a bloke, and one of her killers has just died in jail. It’s her widower forrmer husband who has spoken out:

    The spokeswoman confirmed Murphy had died in Long Bay jail hospital just before midnight yesterday.

    Ms Cobby’s widow John was elated Murphy had died, telling The Daily Telegraph: “One down, four to go”.

    “I hope it was painful for him,” he told the publication.

    Murphy was the oldest of the five men who abducted, raped and murdered Ms Cobby as she walked home from a nursing shift in western Sydney in 1986.

  50. jupes

    Wake up you bastards!

    Arrived in London this arvo and just had bangers and mash and a couple of cleansing ales at a typical London pub. Must be in the good part of town because I didn’t see anyone likely to explode or throw acid on me.

    Good times.

  51. Cassie of Sydney

    “Top Ender
    #2940622, posted on February 22, 2019 at 8:11 am
    Had this comment just rejected by the Oz, underneath the article about the Triggster showing her true colours:

    Good to see Triggs has recovered her memory in time to remember her loyalties.

    Her memory wasn’t so good when she was being paid by all of us.

    She somehow forgot to start an inquiry into children being held in detention.

    And forgot to order an investigation into the three poverty-stricken uni students who had been kicked out of an aboriginal-only computer lab. (Who knew we had apartheid in this country?)
    Now she’s suddenly remembered to help her mates.

    Have fired off an email to their complaints section to see what happens.”

    Glad you sent an email…I bombard them with complaints when my comments are rejected…..I am sure they don’t like me but fuck them….I pay good money to subscribe to The Australian and if they are going to go down the same road that the SMH went….then they’ll lose me as a subscriber….it is currently hanging by a thread anyway. I have also just posted a comment under the piece about Triggsy Poo…let’s see if it is accepted. I will let you know. I have come to the conclusion that the moderators on the newspaper’s morning shift are all young, hard left activist journalists

  52. rickw

    The coal ban by China would normally receive attention and comment from a Shadow Foreign minister.
    Waiting Penny….waiting.

    What’s Penny’s last name??

  53. calli

    Australia is the deep end of the swamp.

    Yep. In the bog with the “Useful Idiots” signpost.

  54. Cassie of Sydney

    “jupes
    #2940627, posted on February 22, 2019 at 8:21 am
    Wake up you bastards!

    Arrived in London this arvo and just had bangers and mash and a couple of cleansing ales at a typical London pub. Must be in the good part of town because I didn’t see anyone likely to explode or throw acid on me.

    Good times.”

    Yes but Jupes…watch out for the knives.

  55. jupes

    Hey TE, I’ve started your book.

    Too bad Maj Gen Sengleman didn’t hire you instead of a feminist academic to report on special forces culture in the ADF. Might have saved a few million currently being wasted in the Brereton Enquiry.

  56. calli

    Stay away from Knightsbridge.

    Many…many Daleks.

  57. jupes

    Yes but Jupes…watch out for the knives.

    Nah it’s pretty safe in this part of town. 100% white people at the pub.

  58. calli

    And protect your cards with sleeves.

    Much…much scamming.

  59. Top Ender

    Which one Jupes? Lethality in Combat? It’s much hated by many.

  60. jupes

    Which one Jupes? Lethality in Combat? It’s much hated by many.

    That’s the one. I imagine it’s hated by pretty much every officer of staff rank in the ADF.

    That’s why I like it. Speaks truth to power.

  61. calli

    I see Triggs is suffering from Relevance Deprivation Syndrome.

    Doesn’t she know she’s a Wanted Woman?

  62. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    What’s Penny’s last name??

    Wrong

  63. Cassie of Sydney

    Michael Murphy…one of the cockroaches (and I am loathe to insult cockroaches) who murdered Anita Cobby….dead. He was the one who slit her throat. In any just society this piece of garbage would have been executed for this crime.

    However on the upside, it’s always nice to hear a good news story so early in the morning.

  64. Cassie of Sydney

    “jupes
    #2940634, posted on February 22, 2019 at 8:26 am
    Yes but Jupes…watch out for the knives.

    Nah it’s pretty safe in this part of town. 100% white people at the pub.”

    Can’t you head up to Manchester for the Tommy Robinson rally…Avi Yemeni is there.

  65. Top Ender

    Cassie, I think I might go hard on this comment rejected by the Oz.

    From memory my sub costs about $16 a month.

    Nearly $200 a year to read their website and get the weekend paper edition; half of which we throw away. Half of the remainder is worth skipping over, with virulent SJW types like Phillip “I’m a proud commie” Adams, and Nikki “I’m a sexy feminist” Gemmel pre-dominating.

    The TV section is done on the cheap, with about 8 “recommendations” being merely a pic of the said show, accompanying the title. Tells you nothing. The Inquirer section is worth reading, but the colour magazine has degenerated into recycled real-estate ads, and fluffy bio pieces about fashionistas of the month.

    We once won free movie tickets in their Member Plus section. They were for a movie which didn’t come to our remote (capital city) part of the nation.

  66. areff

    Louise Adler’s legacy at Melbourne University Press. Below the publicity blurb for Natasha Scott Sepoja’s new book:

    Why is violence against women endemic, and how do we stop it?

    Every two minutes, police are called to a family violence matter. Every week, a woman is killed by a current or former partner. This is Australia’s national emergency. Violence against women is preventable. It is not an inevitable part of the human condition. It is time to create a new normal. It is time to stop the slaughter in our suburbs.

    Haven’t read the book, but I’d bet good money the word “Aboriginal” appears only fleetingly in the index if at all.

  67. jupes

    Can’t you head up to Manchester for the Tommy Robinson rally…Avi Yemeni is there.

    Unfortunately no. Have already arranged to meet relies on Saturday.

  68. Mother Lode

    Commercial radio reporting to the effect that Jussie paid two Trump supporters to beat him up.

    Yes, because Trump supporters will want to help someone who hates Trump to encourage other people to hate Trump. Presumably Smollett – who boasts of how much he calls out Trump – has lots of MAGA friends.

    And Smollett’s fellow anti-Trump travellers would have no interest in fanning anti-Trump sentiment.

    Idiots.

  69. Cassie of Sydney

    Hi Top Ender, Agree…go hard…that’s what I do…I know I am on their blacklist of “complainers” but I don’t care. I still like the Oz…I pick and choose what I want to read…I never read the drivel by Adams and as for Gemmell…she makes Adams look good…that’s how bad she is. However the newspaper has gems…like The Mocker…his piece yesterday about Smollett was superb. As for my benign comment about Triggsy Poo…well it is still in moderation…that’s another tactic the moderators use against trouble makers like myself….they take their time “accepting” my comments. Here is my comment about Triggs..

    “There is one thing I am sure of…that the great Bill Leak and his work will be remembered and recommended long after this awful woman and her legacy is rightly forgotten.
    whatshot0likesreply0replies
    Story: Triggs gives support to Greens
    PENDING
    27 MINUTES AGO

    Tell me…do you think there is anything offensive about my comment?

  70. Percy Popinjay

    What “doctor” could perform such an abomination?

    There’s a recently released indie film that documents the crimes of one such creature.

  71. areff

    TopEnder, you write:

    The idiot sub-editors of news.com.au are showing off their doubtful skills

    There’s probably only one on-duty sub and he or she won’t be doing traditional subbing. Copy gets a quick glance, with the real effort going into embedding relevant tweets, pics, goosing the SEO ranking and then placing it in the CMS for taking live.

    Online, they’re not even known as subs anymore. They’re “producers”.

    Compounding all of the above is the emphasis on speed. No time to send queries back to reporters.

    It’s a dangerous system. Just ask Fairfax about all the defo cases they’ve lost for un-subbed copy going live with innocent kids identified as terrorists etc

  72. John Constantine

    The Tyrant of the chicoms bans australian coal to show us where the power is.

    The Tyrant now has gone through the convention process to tarrif australian barley as well, but maximum disruption to price happens if he strikes at harvest time, not sowing time.

    Ban chicom solar panels in response.

    Ban the billions of dollars in cash remittances sent straight from australia to china, the most profitable export from australia to china, the one way to hurt them, is remittances.

    Comrades.

  73. Cassie of Sydney

    Maybe Michelle has always been Smollett in drag….it makes sense….missing the spotlight….desperate for attention.

  74. Percy Popinjay

    BTW, some very poor reporting from the Oz (again), this time in respect of the long overdue death of one the subhuman ghouls that murdered Anita Cobby.

    One of the five men who murdered beauty queen Anita Cobby has died in jail overnight after a battle with liver cancer.

    Rewritten to reflect standard reporting protocols in practice up until a few decades ago:

    One of the five men who murdered Anita Cobby died in jail last night from liver cancer.

    Fuckwits. Subscription hanging by a thread indeed.

  75. Des Deskperson

    ‘Gillian Triggs — lauded by the Left and attacked by the Right during a five-year term as Australia’s human rights commissioner — has revealed she is backing the Greens candidate in her home seat in the federal election due by May.’

    I thought Triggsy lived in Sydney, where she not so long ago sold her posh house on the North Shore and bought a posh apartment in the inner city. Wonder if she rents out her Sydney property and negative gears?

    Macnanmara is a new electoral division that includes the old Melbourne Ports – once solid Labor but under threat from the Greens in 2116. Melbourne cats will see from the map:

    https://www.aec.gov.au/Electorates/Redistributions/2017/vic/final-report/files/maps-a4/2018-AEC-Victoria-A4-Macnamara-Final.pdf

    that Macnamara covers a pretty posh area, with the sea front areas now full of inner city bourgie progressives. On the other hand, the eastern areas used to have a strong jewish community, at least some of whom would be anti-Green.

    Triggsy is also famous for a Saturday Paper interview where she slagged off politicians as ignorant and stupid, then tried to claim she was misquoted, whereupon the interviewer – leftie Ramona Korval IIRC – produced the audio tape. Even lefties though that Triggsy’s behaviour here was pretty shabby.

  76. John Constantine

    The ban on aussie coal only makes the andrews quisling collaboration cartel more unswerving in its need to rush into one belt one road loanshark slavery to the Tyrant.

    Rush in before the proles object to being sold as slaves.

    The andrews yarragrad Tyranny will need the 800 assault rifles in the hands of its paramilitary death squads before it is all over.

    The Tyrant controlling our coal trade and our iron trade and our wool trade and our barley trade and our dogbox apartment Ponxi and controlling a multi million strong diaspora Is Our Strength.

    For the value of ‘Our’ that describes the sellout australian oligarch class.

    Comrades.

  77. dover_beach

    Complete and utter horseshit.

    Every single point indisputably wrong, misleading our an outright lie.

    Sorry, Mitch, but IT is largely right. If you take point 1, why is the difference in maternal mortality hardly reflected in birth rates? Re point 2, the author herself admits that the high costs of pregnancy are hidden by insurers and shared across all policyholders and again the difference in costs is not reflected in birth rates when compared with other Western countries with lower costs of pregnancy. What about points 3 and 4, where is the evidence that paid parental leave and low cost child care significantly increase birth rates? The Scandinavian countries do not have a higher birth rate than the US. Re points 5 and 6, birth rates have declined since the 1960s as real wages have increased and sans the personal debt around now.

    I’ll tell you what was glaringly omitted from that article: (i) feminism; (ii) the contraceptive mentality; (iii) suburbia; and (iv) the undercurrent of antinatalism.

  78. calli

    areff, I promised you a few paras, and here they are.

    In the early 80’s there were a vast number of Vietnamese refugees waiting for entry into Australia (and elsewhere) waiting in camps in Malaysia and other SE asian countries. Australia had no real government policy on relocation, but provided some assistance to individuals and groups who wished to sponsor refugees.

    Organisations (like church charities) provided assistance as well.

    A group of five families (our Bible Study group) decided to help some of these people. A family group of two couples and a young child were waiting in a camp so we sponsored them. A pool of money was collected, clothing, furniture, a lease on a flat, all the things necessary to give them a start. We welcomed them at the airport, took them to their new home, did some shopping, introduced them to Viet expats who wanted to help them.

    We took turns driving them to English lessons and other appointments. They immediately looked for work and the men found it. The child was enrolled in school. One of the couples was not married – they married in Fairfield and we went to the wedding. It was the first (and only) Buddhist wedding I have ever attended. A baby was on the way, the first of the family to be born in Australia.

    Over a period of 18 months they became less and less dependant on us, got a car and built a life for themselves.

    And that is my sponsorship story. Individuals, with a little help in the right places from organisations and government, making a difference in the lives of others. Now, of course, the taxpayer underwrites the lot.

    It’s a bit sketchy as a lot of water has passed under the bridge. I was a young mum at the time, with a toddler and one on the way, so it all went by in a kind of blur of busyness.

  79. calli

    Something else too, Dover. Infertility as a result promiscuity.

  80. Des Deskperson

    This went to moderation, so i will try again;

    ‘Gillian Triggs — lauded by the Left and attacked by the Right during a five-year term as Australia’s human rights commissioner — has revealed she is backing the Greens candidate in her home seat in the federal election due by May.’

    I thought Triggsy lived in Sydney, where she not so long ago sold her posh house on the North Shore and bought a posh apartment in the inner city.

    Macnanmara is a new electoral division that includes the old Melbourne Ports – once solid Labor but under threat from the Greens in 2116. Melbourne cats will see from the map:

    https://www.aec.gov.au/Electorates/Redistributions/2017/vic/final-report/files/maps-a4/2018-AEC-Victoria-A4-Macnamara-Final.pdf

    that Macnamara covers a pretty posh area, with the sea front suburbs now full of inner city bourgie progressives. On the other hand, the eastern areas used to have a strong jewish community, at least some of whom would be anti-Green.

  81. calli

    One of the five men who murdered beauty queen Anita Cobby has died in jail overnight after a battle with liver cancer.

    I’m so glad my family member wasn’t a “beauty queen” and her murder passed relatively unreported. Barely a week goes by and I don’t think of her and what she endured. But thankfully it’s private mourning.

    How the Cobby family has coped in the spotlight is beyond me.

  82. Leigh Lowe

    Jussie Smollett has been charged with one count of making a false report and one count of second degree smirking.

  83. Hmm, what was that I was saying about coal being dead? You fools.

  84. Leigh Lowe

    One of the five men who murdered beauty queen Anita Cobby has died in jail overnight after a battle with liver cancer.

    Is it too early for champagne?
    Good to see that he died in the slot.
    Too often these dogs get let out in the “final days of a terminal illness” (which can go for months).

  85. cohenite

    Hmm, what was that I was saying about coal being dead? You fools.

    You idiot; coal is dead plants; of course it’s fucking dead; the plants capture sunlight and die with the solar energy in them; coal is literally chocolate sunshine.

    Now we’ve got a combination of arsehole alarmists, chinks and clever coal mine owners restricting it. And morons like you think that’s great.

  86. bespoke

    m0nty
    #2940668, posted on February 22, 2019 at 9:10 am
    Hmm, what was that I was saying about coal being dead? You fools.

    So now they are going to burn lower grade coal not less.

  87. Cassie of Sydney

    “m0nty
    #2940668, posted on February 22, 2019 at 9:10 am
    Hmm, what was that I was saying about coal being dead? You fools.”

    You’re a buffoon.

  88. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2940626, posted on February 22, 2019 at 8:20 am

    Anita Cobby killer Michael Murphy dead
    Exclusive Mark Morri, The Daily Telegraph
    10 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    One of the notorious brothers who abducted, raped and murdered beauty queen Anita Cobby, has died in Long Bay jail overnight.

    Michael Murphy, 65, the oldest of a pack of killers who raped and almost decapitated the nurse in a field in western Sydney in 1986, was moved from Long Bay jail into palliative care last year.

    He was suffering from liver cancer and had been in and out of Prince of Wales Hospital over the past few months.

    Ms Cobby’s widower John was informed of the death early this morning after Murphy died at 2am.

    “I hope it was painful for him” he said.

    “One down, four to go”.

    Imprisoned since his arrest over a crime that shocked the nation more than 32 years ago, Murphy has spent most of his incarceration in Goulburn prison’s maximum security wings.

    He was aged in his early 30s on the evening of February 2, 1986 when, with brothers Gary and Les, psychopath John Travers and Michael Murdoch, he spotted Ms Cobby walking home.

  89. dover_beach

    Something else too, Dover. Infertility as a result promiscuity.’

    and

    And abortion

    Both covered by (ii) the contraceptive mentality.

  90. Top Ender

    Just got an email from the Oz – my Triggster comment will be put up.

  91. Oh, but but but look at China, you lot said. There goes that talking point.

    All you’ve got left is Virat Kohli.

  92. cohenite

    China digs up 10 times what it imports from Australia and will buy the shortfall of its punishment of Australia from Indonesia, inferior coal but will still do for HELE plants.

    Why don’t you fuck off.

  93. Arky

    Reuters reported that five harbours overseen by Dalian customs – Dalian, Bayuquan, Panjin, Dandong and Beiliang – will not allow Australian coal to clear through customs. Coal imports from Russia and Indonesia will not be affected.

  94. Cassie of Sydney

    “Top Ender
    #2940677, posted on February 22, 2019 at 9:20 am
    Just got an email from the Oz – my Triggster comment will be put up.”

    Good news……but it confirms my views about the early morning moderators….they are hard core activists. This doesn’t augur well for the Oz’s future.

  95. Tel

    I’ll tell you what was glaringly omitted from that article: (i) feminism; (ii) the contraceptive mentality; (iii) suburbia; and (iv) the undercurrent of antinatalism.

    Housing is less affordable than it used to be. Attitude to marriage has completely changed. Agenda 21 Section I “promoting health, achieving a more sustainable population”. Requires two people working to support a family, used to be only one. Taxes are higher too.

    The article was right on student debt, but wait … these students were told that college degree would make them wealthy … so they are speculators. Taking risks is risky.

  96. Arky

    I don’t understand how you can be so fucking thick as to point to an incident that illustrates the stupidity of de-industrialising in favour of China as evidence of the need to further de- industrialise in favour of China.
    You are a monumental fool.

  97. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #2940662, posted on February 22, 2019 at 8:58 am

    Reinforces what Mark Latham was saying.
    Previous waves of immigrants looked for and found work, learned English and wanted to assimilate.
    Compare and contrast …

  98. Johno

    What??? You mean Virat Kohli won’t be buying our coal?? Recession I tells ya.

  99. bespoke

    dover

    I could grasp what that article was getting at but that’s probable me.

  100. Reuters reported that five harbours overseen by Dalian customs – Dalian, Bayuquan, Panjin, Dandong and Beiliang – will not allow Australian coal to clear through customs. Coal imports from Russia and Indonesia will not be affected.

    Ah yes Arky, but also in that report, Reuters said that coal imports to that port will be capped in future. So the shortfall won’t be made up.

  101. Cassie of Sydney

    “Coal imports from Russia and Indonesia will not be affected.”

    In other words, they will allow low grade coal in…but block our high grade coal…so much for caring about the environment. The buffoon supports environmental vandalism.

  102. Arky

    But Monty aside, the last 24 hours on here have been of interest due to the particularly snarky and abusive attitude of the handful of rarely commenting handles who only come out snarling when the shite globalist narrative obviously crumbles.
    Shitheads.

  103. Tel

    Maybe China has solved Adani’s problem. How about this scenario:

    * Australians demand full payment for coal from Chinese buyers, plus extra money for inconvenience (reasonable since Australian companies did nothing wrong here).

    * Chinese buyers likely to refuse this deal.

    * Australian government steps in and says, new contract for Adani to buy this coal is legitimate since Chinese buyers have already breached the old contract.

  104. bespoke

    Tel
    Students demands for extra unrelated stuff nrelated to there education also added to the price. That’s why I had LOL reading Victoria putting kid n comities, X-Box for all!!

  105. Tel

    bespoke, no one was forcing those millenial students into debt. There’s more alternatives to college now than ever before. If they got sucked in by an overpriced X-Box that’s their lookout.

  106. cohenite

    Absurd Rocky Hill decision tarnishes rule of law
    While the Queensland government’s review of the Adani project is a farce, the decision of the NSW Land and Environment Court to block the proposed coalmine at Rocky Hill is a tragedy.
    In narrowly economic terms, much more is at stake with Adani.
    But the Rocky Hill decision is such a travesty of justice it casts a shadow over the standing of our judiciary. Of course, in both cases, the dysfunction stems from a common core. The environmental approval process was designed as an exercise in balancing costs and benefits, objectively weighing competing interests in the light of the consequences for the community as a whole.

  107. Geriatric Mayfly

    That’s why I had LOL reading Victoria putting kid n comities, X-Box for all!!

    Things have moved up a notch. Back in the day, aspiring committee members from the ranks of the befuddled would campaign on a platform of lifting smoking bans, and disposing of school uniforms.

  108. Top Ender

    Cassie, seeing as I was talking to “Jason” – the Oz’s Comments overseer; I copied and pasted to him my analysis above.

    With a bit of luck he will pass a few cutting comments along to the other sections of the paper.

  109. Dr Faustus

    The ‘ban on Australian coal’ is a bit of theatre, put on by the Chicoms to try to squeak a political benefit out of the current Chinese domestic commercial and economic chaos.

    Naturally this has been picked up and repeated by Emperor Xi’s gospel horns – the Australian MSM – as evidence of China beating the Australian Government about naming names on hacking, navigating the South China Sea, calling out China’s influence in the Pacific, and failing to give the PLA access to the nations’ telecom system via Huwei.

    The real drivers for the Xi Dynasty are the general economic downturn, the clusterfuck in Chinese manufacturing, and the urgent political need to manage the Beijing winter smog.

    In fact the coal industry was well aware from Q3 2018 that Chinese industry had been ordered to restrict coal imports and Chinese gencos had built up huge coal stocks and were about to curtail coal purchases over winter. Chinese customs actually started to restrict coal imports in December.

    This was thoroughly chewed over in the industry press in October/November – and even in the MSM.

    So, not the death of coal. Just a horse’s head dropped into Australia’s bed ahead of the election.

  110. Top Ender

    What is about socialists?

    They have their warm and fuzzy statements, but are too stupid to see they won’t work?

    This now:

    New Zealand officials have told Australia they are no longer keen to accept asylum seekers from Manus Island despite Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s previous offer to accept detainees from Australian offshore detention, government sources say.

    The Courier Mail reports that senior New Zealand departmental officials told Australian officials under the previous Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull that New Zealand was not open to resettling single asylum seeker men on Manus Island.

    This is despite Ms Ardern previously saying her country would be happy to take refugees from Manus Island and Nauru.

    “Obviously New Zealand’s offer to take 150 refugees, those screened to be refugees, continues to stand,” she previously said.

    New Zealand has said the offer was for 150 people a year.

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Ms Ardern are set to meet in Auckland today for annual talks.

    Oz

  111. thefrollickingmole

    m0nty

    You ignorant hermaphrodite slut.

    Its being done to shore up prices in their domestic market, not some rush to leave coal.

    FMD the ignorance burns.

    From the gruinaid, that bastion of RW news…

    Beijing has also been trying to restrict imports of coal more generally to support domestic prices.

    Spot Australian coking coal at northern Chinese port Jingtang is 200 yuan ($29.85) cheaper per tonne than domestic prices, according to data tracked by Orient Futures. Prices of thermal coal are approximately the same.

    Dalian handles both thermal and coking coal imports but the clampdown is expected to have a bigger impact on coking coal, used in steel making, than thermal coal, used to generate electricity.

    “It is hard to find a replacement for Australian coking coal since its sulphur content is very low,” said a purchasing manager at a large coke plant in Hebei province.

    “Current inventory at ports should be sufficient to support usage for one or two months, but it could be a problem in the long term, especially if other ports also tighten imports,” he added.

    The most-active coking coal contract for May delivery rose more than 2 percent during morning trade on Thursday.

    “(The restriction) will further squeeze profit margins at steel mills after Vale’s accident has already driven up iron ore prices,” said Gu at Orient Futures.

  112. John Constantine

    RNE, the old geodynamics, the company with a qquarter of a billion dollars in tax losses tucked away, announces further progress in waste to power for industrial agriculture.

    With the looming green shortfilth turnbullite Paris convention to cut cowshite by 50% in australia, imminently, the hideously uneconomic mad max methane projects might be coming at gunpoint.

    Others preferred to RNE though.

  113. Cassie of Sydney

    “Top Ender
    #2940701, posted on February 22, 2019 at 9:51 am
    Cassie, seeing as I was talking to “Jason” – the Oz’s Comments overseer; I copied and pasted to him my analysis above.

    With a bit of luck he will pass a few cutting comments along to the other sections of the paper.”

    Yes,I have dealt with “Jason” before…he’s okay…the thing is Top Ender is that your comment, from the beginning, should NOT have been rejected. I remain very uncomfortable with the moderators….for example, a few weeks ago I contacted the Oz comments section because they had rejected one of my comments on something yet allowed through a comment which was viciously abusive about Margaret Court. I know for a fact that the moderators are politically and ideologically driven. It was ok for them to “accept” an awful negative and abusive comment about Margaret Court because that suits the moderator’s ideology—-bash Christians, bash anyone who was against SSM, bash Tony Abbott and so on. Anyway, because of MY activism, the digital editors deleted the abusive comment about Margaret.

    As I have said many times….we need to use Alinsky methods too.

  114. Cassie of Sydney

    This is my comment, posted two hours ago, which is still in limbo…

    “”She was born in Britain, she has that right to remain in Britain and obviously a lot of questions she has to answer but also some support that she needs.”

    There were children and young people murdered in Manchester, not less than two years ago, who were born in Britain and had the right to grow old in Britain. But those rights were brutally torn away from them by an evil and pernicious ideology that Ms Begum is still unwilling to renounce and denounce. Perhaps Mr Corbyn can provide “some support” to the families of the Manchester victims and other terrorist atrocities.

    As for Corbyn, I don’t think anyone is surprised by his latest drivel…it is yet another example of his skewed moral compass…actually I’ll rephrase that……it is yet another example of his complete lack of any moral compass.
    whatshot0likesreply0replies
    Story: Jihadi bride finds ally in Corbyn”

  115. Cassie of Sydney

    I suspect that in NZ Winston Peters has put the hard word on Ms Ardern. She owes him….big time.

  116. Arky

    “I expect they will all be testifying against each other”.


  117. struth

    Good Moaning.
    Fancy getting up and having to read the ultra dumb comments of Monty first thing.

    Jupes, have a ball over there, and you will note, that London and England is nowhere near as multicultural as they’d have us believe.
    Compared to us.
    The have the East of London and a few other parts that are real problems, and a few spots up Manchester way, but other than that, it’s just hard finding a pommie bar tender for the Polish etc.

    Monty, you unbelievable rabbit.
    They aren’t banning coal.
    They’re putting a cap only on Australian coal, until we learn our lesson.

    The lesson should be that we never let the leftists allow a communist country like China to grow by shackling the west with bullshit environmentalism, and allowing them to explode by hundreds their coal powered power stations, and then stick all our eggs in the communist basket.
    There is a price to pay, and we are only just starting to work that out, being the dumbest country on the planet because it’s filled with morons like you.

    Oh, and that Reece goose.

  118. stackja

    Pru Goward
    ‏Verified account
    @PruGoward
    3 hours ago
    It is appalling that the person who aspires to be the next Deputy Premier of NSW thinks it is ok to treat other women like this. It pains me to have to re-tweet this demeaning screenshot of a tweet from @PennySharpemlc but this needs to be called out. #nswpol @michaeldaleyMP

  119. The real drivers for the Xi Dynasty are the general economic downturn, the clusterfuck in Chinese manufacturing, and the urgent political need to manage the Beijing winter smog.

    Coal… causing pollution? Whodathunkit.

  120. cohenite

    Lovely girl getting some concessions to enter medicine on account of her being indigenous.

  121. cohenite

    Coal… causing pollution

    Fuck off idiot; it’s the unleaded petrol and manufacture of solar panels.

  122. Cassie of Sydney

    “Pru Goward
    ‏Verified account
    @PruGoward
    3 hours ago
    It is appalling that the person who aspires to be the next Deputy Premier of NSW thinks it is ok to treat other women like this. It pains me to have to re-tweet this demeaning screenshot of a tweet from @PennySharpemlc but this needs to be called out. #nswpol @michaeldaleyMP”

    Normally I couldn’t care less about a picture of Gladwrap dressed up as a ugly witch just like but the leftards made the rules and they sure as hell are going to be made to live by their rules.

  123. Mother Lode

    Michael Murphy…one of the cockroaches (and I am loathe to insult cockroaches) who murdered Anita Cobby….dead. He was the one who slit her throat. In any just society this piece of garbage would have been executed for this crime.

    While in prison, every moment of even the least mirth, joy, humour, ease – everything that makes life worth living, was him being rewarded with that of which he deprived Anita. He took every moment of happiness she would ever have had.

    If these people are going to be given life instead of the death penalty then it should be spent in isolation alternating between suffocating boredom and near unendurable agony.

    Anything less is an insult.

  124. struth

    Ha ha.
    Even if it was all industry and it is as you say Monty.
    You dumb pricks wanted to hand our industry over to the Chinese by destroying it here, so they pollute like bastards and how’s that effect your climate change?

    You’ve made it worse.
    Surely you’ve got other things to do, like scare some kids about it.
    After all we only have 12 years left.

    FMD.
    I’m going to change some strings.
    Made in the USA.

  125. twostix

    In the 1950’s Australia’s middle brow semi retarded labor leftists like m0nty ran cover for the Soviet war against us, now they’re going to do it for China.

    It’s all so tiresome.

  126. cohenite

    Surprise; the states suing Trump’s emergency declaration are all the states which voted Hillary in 2016:

    https://www.facebook.com/ACTBrigitte/photos/a.444582682580/10155690046787581/?type=3&theater

  127. it’s the unleaded petrol and manufacture of solar panels

    Oh cohenite, you are so very, very stupid.

  128. Arky

    While in prison, every moment of even the least mirth, joy, humour, ease – everything that makes life worth living, was him being rewarded with that of which he deprived Anita. He took every moment of happiness she would ever have had.

    ..
    Yep. Abolishing the death penalty for these heinous crimes was a diminution of life.

  129. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2940703, posted on February 22, 2019 at 9:54 am

    NZ privately rejects asylum seekers despite PM’s public offer
    Renee Viellaris, federal political editor, The Courier-Mail
    February 22, 2019 1:00am
    Subscriber only

    NEW Zealand has privately rejected resettling asylum seekers from Manus Island, contradicting its Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s public offer to resettle the men.

    Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison will hold routine bilateral talks with Ms Ardern in Auckland today as concerns deepen in Australia over the serious pending charges and accusations levelled at some asylum seekers on Manus Island.

    The Courier-Mail understands that, when Malcolm Turnbull was prime minister, senior New Zealand departmental officials privately told Australian prime minister and cabinet officials that New Zealand was not open to resettling single asylum seeker men on Manus Island.

    It came as Ms Ardern publicly stated New Zealand’s door was open for the asylum seekers on Manus and Nauru.

    A spokesman from Prime Minister and Cabinet said: “It would be inappropriate for the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet to comment on the Australian Government’s ongoing engagement with partner countries.”

    Mr Morrison’s office also refused to comment on private conversations between Australia and New Zealand.

    Ms Ardern’s office was given 48 hours to comment about whether NZ officials conveyed the private advice to their Australian counterparts, but it did not respond at time of print.

    It comes as Attorney-General Christian Porter warned that asylum seekers evacuated from Manus Island and Nauru might never be able to be forced to return to offshore processing because of Labor’s “rushed” laws.

  130. stackja

    Girl aged under 10 allegedly sexually assaulted at Bagot Community
    JUDITH AISTHORPE, NT News
    February 21, 2019 11:12pm
    Subscriber only

    BAGOT Community residents have told how they heard screaming and ran to help a young girl, who was allegedly being sexually assaulted.

    The alleged assault of the child aged under 10 on Thursday morning has shocked residents in the community.

    Many said they felt unsafe and worry for other children.

    Rueben Timothy, from Borroloola, said he got into the Bagot Community Wednesday night and said he was woken up by his brother-in-law who heard screaming.

    “My brother-in-law came outside and told us to get up, ‘Come on, come on, we’ve got to go’,” he said.

    “And I asked him, ‘What?, What’s going on?’

    “ ‘Just come, come’.

    A 31-year-old man has been arrested in relation to the alleged sexual assault of the young girl.

    The man was taken into custody at 1.30pm Thursday and was assisting detectives with their inquiries.

    Police said the alleged incident occurred at 4am Thursday.

    Mr Timothy, a father of a four-year-old girl, said he would keep her close. “With me she’s safe,” he said.

    One woman living on the street where the alleged incident took place said she didn’t feel safe.

    She said alcohol and drugs were a problem in the community.

  131. thefrollickingmole

    stackja

    Good news being blokes responded and the shitheel was arrested.

    Rueben Timothy, from Borroloola, said he got into the Bagot Community Wednesday night and said he was woken up by his brother-in-law who heard screaming.

    “My brother-in-law came outside and told us to get up, ‘Come on, come on, we’ve got to go’,” he said.

    “And I asked him, ‘What?, What’s going on?’

    “ ‘Just come, come’.

    A 31-year-old man has been arrested in relation to the alleged sexual assault of the young girl.

  132. Cassie of Sydney

    Murphy died in a hospital bed with access to full medical attention.

    Anita Cobby was murdered by Murphy in a paddock, she had been raped, tortured and mutilated with her throat slit by that obscenity. Her body was left to rot in the paddock. When the owner of the paddock arrived in the morning to tend the cows he could see that the cows were visibly distressed. The owner was the first human to discover her body…probably something he never got over either. The cows had treated Anita with more dignity and respect than the vermin who murdered her.

    The fact that the obscenity called Murphy was allowed to live on for a further 33 years and died in a hospital bed with far more dignity than what he accorded to Anita Cobby in the last few hours of her life is a sad indictment of just how pathetic our society has become.

  133. stackja

    Arky
    #2940723, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:31 am
    While in prison, every moment of even the least mirth, joy, humour, ease – everything that makes life worth living, was him being rewarded with that of which he deprived Anita. He took every moment of happiness she would ever have had.

    ..
    Yep. Abolishing the death penalty for these heinous crimes was a diminution of life.

    I believe 31 years of prison more just then a quick hanging. 31 years of staring at walls knowing never going to end until death.

  134. areff

    Mr Hanjbarian, the hard-working small business owner now charged with drug offences, as we were supposed to think of him:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1866962/Video-Refugee-Hamid-Ranjbarian-appears-TV-ad-insurance-company.html

    There is looking for honest work and being rejected by a Skippy.

    There’s his veiled countrywoman studying English so she can assimilate.

    There’s his little painting business taking root and flourishing.

    Ever get the impression there’s a narrative we’re expected to believe without question?

    Will be interesting to learn if that small business was used as a cash-washing laundry.

  135. areff

    Stackja: Agreed on the death penalty. No matter how much someone deserves to die, do we really want to cede the power of life and death to the state?

    Better solution: end protective custody. Let the old lags perform public service homicides and keep the state out of it.

  136. Bruce of Newcastle

    Coal… causing pollution? Whodathunkit.

    Mendacious, malicious and intentionally misleading (but I repeat myself).

    Why don’t you now give an explanation, M0nty, of what pollution by coal is, and why the Chinese are acting on it. While you are at it please explain why all the power stations around Newcastle seem not to cause the sort of smog the Chinese are complaining about.

    Take your time.

    Hypocrisy is more important to control than pollution, since it affects brains not lungs.

  137. dover_beach

    In the 1950’s Australia’s middle brow semi retarded labor leftists like m0nty ran cover for the Soviet war against us, now they’re going to do it for China.

    Nothing ever changes.

  138. JC

    Stackja: Agreed on the death penalty. No matter how much someone deserves to die, do we really want to cede the power of life and death to the state?

    That’s a good question, Aref, but I’m note sure we are. The US example is that a jury must decide the verdict in a capital punishment case. That’s not the state.

  139. Notafan

    Calli

    nice work

    reminded me of the start of Anh Do’s book, I don’t know if they were sponsored , but they were given clothing by some nuns who thought his little brother was a girl and rather than make any kind of fuss his mother just dressed him it what was given

    Can’t imagine today’s graspers being anything like so humbly grateful.

  140. Why don’t you now give an explanation, M0nty, of what pollution by coal is

    What is it you lot always thinking that you’re high school teachers? Geez.

  141. Notafan

    Harken gone

    Monty back

    coincidence?

  142. Farmer Gez

    Lucky for me that Monty has the inside running on the commodity trade.
    China bans coal and Monty declares coal is dead.
    China also put bans on our barley. Time for me to get out of barley.
    Thanks for the tip Monty.

  143. stackja

    ‘It is a national disaster’: QLD Farmers face a devastating future
    4 MINS AGO
    ALAN JONES LINDA REYNOLDS QLD FLOODS QUEENSLAND FLOODS

    Queensland farmers are facing heartbreaking conditions, weeks after devastating floods inundated 22 million hectares of land.

    Senator Linda Reynolds has been acting as the Prime Minister’s envoy in North Queensland and tells Alan Jones, “it is a national disaster”.

    “It is like an inland tsunami has just ripped through these people’s properties.”

    Reynolds has just signed the Carcass Disposal Strategic Master Plan as part of the government’s flood response.

    She says the region is now facing a major health risk with hundreds of thousands of dead cattle strewn across farmland and waterways.

    “Most people in the city could not imagine what it would be like walking outside your front door and seeing and smelling dead cattle.”

    Despite the devastating future facing farmers, Reynolds says she’s seen “the absolute best of Australians” in response to the floods.

    And Phelps happy living in Sydney.

  144. JC

    One case turned me on capital and I’ve never gone back. The case was of a pregnant woman who was kidnapped from the hospital carpark by a nurse and her husband. She was almost due. Those two evil scum wanted a baby and couldn’t have one. They ripped her stomach open and removed the kid from the womb and she was left to die. This is so heinous it’s with regret I even post about it.

    Those two should have been “terminated”.

    I also don’t buy the idea that life in prison is more punishment. If that were the case every single inmate on death wouldn’t be appealing to the very end to have their lives spared. The death penalty is a deterrent. It’s also an appropriate penalty for the moat heinous crimes.

  145. areff

    Two words, JC: Ronald Ryan.

    Fellow escapee Peter Walker blew a bloke’s brains out in a toilet on Beaconsfield Parade because he suspected him of being an informer. Walker was out in 15 years (?) and running a commercial pot plantation.

    Ryan went to the gallows, even though there is a body of evidence that Warder Hodgson was actually shot by a fellow guard.

    Ryan was a bad man, don’t get me wrong. But Walker’s premeditated murder of the informer was more culpable. Bolte wanted Ryan to swing, so swing he did. That’s the problem in a nutshell

  146. Keith Forwheels

    John Constantine, Thank you re KL. Outstanding.

  147. Arky

    I believe 31 years of prison more just then a quick hanging. 31 years of staring at walls knowing never going to end until death.

    ..
    Nah.
    They adapt and enjoy life at least as much as you and I do, with none of the responsibilities we have.
    The more vicious ones are the top dogs, have a sex life rooting young blokes and enjoy manipulating and brutalising others.
    Not executing them is an abdication of responsibility. They go on wrecking lives until their own demise.

  148. cohenite

    Fuck off monty, you stain; I don’t need you to tell me I’m stupid, that’s the head prefect’s job.

  149. JC

    You recall the case, Areff?I think it was Long Island.

  150. JC

    No cronkers. I have no problem others reminding you.

  151. Diogenes

    The US example is that a jury must decide the verdict in a capital punishment case. That’s not the state.

    Bolte wanted Ryan to swing, so swing he did. That’s the problem in a nutshell

    In the US there are also mandatory appeal after appeal after appeal that can take years. Some prisoners have even petitioned the Supreme Court to have the sentence carried out. The days of sentence them today, string ’em up tomorrow are long gone.

  152. stackja

    areff
    #2940732, posted on February 22, 2019 at 10:45 am
    Stackja: Agreed on the death penalty. No matter how much someone deserves to die, do we really want to cede the power of life and death to the state?

    Better solution: end protective custody. Let the old lags perform public service homicides and keep the state out of it.

    I don’t have a problem with the death penalty. I just believe a quick death is not real justice. Maybe a prison in far north west with days of over 40. Staff live in air conditioning.

  153. I don’t need you to tell me I’m stupid, that’s the head prefect’s job.

    Fair enough.

  154. C.L.

    Monty was accosted on his way to the donut shop by two Chinamen who yelled “this is windmill country.”

  155. C.L.

    Unhinged Zoe Daniels is now using BOLD tags throughout her ‘reports’ about Trump.
    Scroll through it all to see the bold-o-rama.

  156. Tel

    Mendacious, malicious and intentionally misleading (but I repeat myself).

    Deliberately conflating particulate pollution with CO2 which is invisible.

    Childish, obvious, and hardly original … it might fool a few people. This type of thing is clear evidence that the “Progressive” left have no real arguments.

  157. Nob

    RNE, the old geodynamics

    I didn’t know that.

    I arrived at the GeoDynamics office in Brisbane the day after they had the blowout that was the final mail in the coffin.

    As I was leaving a taxi pulled up and a bloke wth cowboy hat and view jumped out, carrying a briefcase.
    “Whar’s Ge-o-dah- nemix?”

    I pointed. “Thataway”.

    Anyway, we never made any money out of them

  158. Perfidious Albino

    I see the Hawkei protected mobility vehicles being built in Bendigo have a problem with the engine manufacturer, Steyr, going bankrupt. I didn’t appreciate that, formerly Austrian, Steyr Motors is now Chinese owned and money flow out of China to prop up the business has been stopped with the Chinese CEO mysteriously disappearing late last year…

  159. Bruce of Newcastle

    What is it you lot always thinking that you’re high school teachers? Geez.

    M0nty – I want you to defend your appalling statement.
    If you do not you will have proved your mendacity and hypocrisy.

  160. C.L.

    Mendacious, malicious and intentionally misleading

    Jackie Chiles in the house.

  161. Nob

    As far as China goes, I believe their line that it’s retaliation for Huawei.

    They’re vicious like that and they have the power.

  162. stackja

    C.L.
    #2940756, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:13 am

    Will Zoe Daniels report if Mueller shows no collusion?

  163. Snoopy

    Monty’s got his mojo back. His lifestyle caused health issues must be in temporary remission. Fortunately it’s only a matter of day before he falls back into a poor bugger me funk.

  164. cohenite

    I have no problem others reminding you.

    No one asked you.

  165. C.L.

    FMD.
    Smollett paid Nigerians to beat him up “but not too badly,” say police.

  166. Farmer Gez

    China is proposing that it could buy an additional $30 billion a year of U.S. agricultural products including soybeans, corn and wheat as part of a possible trade deal being negotiated by the two countries, according to people with knowledge of the plan.

    Trump deals from a position of strength and will achieve a result that advantages the US.
    As for our lot…..🤪

  167. Bruce of Newcastle

    As far as China goes, I believe their line that it’s retaliation for Huawei.
    They’re vicious like that and they have the power.

    Sheridan is correct:

    Beijing is not the innocent party (Oz, paywalled)

    Everything Canberra has done that annoys Beijing has been forced on it by Chinese ­actions.

    The Chinese are embarrassed their subversion of IT equipment has been revealed. Their loss of face is their own stupid fault. If they had brains they would have played straight and so hooked the world on their (above board) equipment that they could use it for diplomatic leverage. Instead they went quick and dirty and have been sprung.

    I’ve no problem with the coal embargo. The coal and the iron ore isn’t going away. Kloppers knew that when he screwed them over by means of the 3 month floating price mechanism. If the Chinks want to quixotically chop their own cocks off that is their idiotic privilege.

  168. dover_beach

    Stackja: Agreed on the death penalty. No matter how much someone deserves to die, do we really want to cede the power of life and death to the state?

    Better solution: end protective custody. Let the old lags perform public service homicides and keep the state out of it.

    CP does not cede the power of life or death to the state. The criminal does that himself by means of his own acts. If someone commits a particularly grievous act of murder, justice requires that the receive a proportionate punishment. I don’t want ‘old lags’ performing this public service only in those cases that they themselves find morally abhorrent. While not giving a damn about those cases that also involved grievous acts of murder but which they themselves were all too familiar with, like the murder of Anthony Spilotro, graphically portrayed in Casino. To hell with that.

    If someone is found guilty of a capital crime, and the judge is convinced of its degree of grievousness, he ought to be condemned to death. And the forms and rituals of the execution ought to reflect and acknowledge the seriousness of the punishment.

  169. Zatara

    Smollett paid Nigerians to beat him up “but not too badly,” say police

    And he paid with a personal cheque!

    You couldn’t make this stuff up, nobody would believe it.

  170. M0nty – I want you to defend your appalling statement.

    What, the statement that coal causes pollution? Bruce, surely even you are not that thick.

  171. feelthebern

    I don’t trust the state not to abuse capital punishment, so I’m against it.
    I also agree with the comments up thread regarding vigilante justice, there needs to be more of it.
    The fear of it made Bob Collins top himself.
    The more of that the better.

  172. Gab

    Monty you cause more pollution than coal ever could.

  173. feelthebern

    Wow, just looked at Bob Collins wiki page.
    It turns out you keep your AO.

  174. stackja

    C.L.
    #2940767, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:20 am
    FMD.
    Smollett paid Nigerians to beat him up “but not too badly,” say police.

    Life imitating art?

    Dirty Harry
    Chief: Have you been following that man?
    Callahan: Yeah, I’ve been following him on my own time. And anybody can tell I didn’t do that to him.
    Chief: How?
    Callahan: Cause he looks too damn good, that’s how!

  175. feelthebern

    Lol, Michael Cranston just got picked up by a law firm to consult as a tax specialist.
    Well done that man.

  176. stackja

    feelthebern
    #2940775, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:36 am
    Wow, just looked at Bob Collins wiki page.
    It turns out you keep your AO.

    Nothing proved in court?

  177. areff

    I think it was Long Island.

    Chicago, I thought, but I do remember it. Here’s another one from the Dakotas:

    https://abc7chicago.com/woman-convicted-of-killing-pregnant-neighbor-cutting-out-baby-lied-about-being-pregnant/4336500/

  178. areff

    Dover: Guess it comes down to how much faith you have in the State. I have none.

  179. Zatara

    Unfortunately, fetal abduction isn’t entirely uncommon.

  180. struth

    She was almost due. Those two evil scum wanted a baby and couldn’t have one. They ripped her stomach open and removed the kid from the womb and she was left to die. This is so heinous it’s with regret I even post about it.

    Couldn’t be right,JC.
    Iampeter assures me the baby is dead until it goes through the vaginal cavity and is born when it’s bum is smacked.

    Don’t you love socialists?

    Socialist sabotage coal and then claim coal is dead.
    They’ve been sabotaging the west in every way for so long, surely it’s time to pronounce the west in it’s entirety, dead.

    My “nuanced” view is that the Chinese haven’t really had fightback before.
    Trump is giving it to them.
    He actually truly understands capitalism and the competition created on a level playing field will kill communist corruption in a heart beat.

    Australia, being the dumb economic tail being wagged by communist dogs, saw all their future in China.
    What a shit hole.
    Just like the MSM and all of the left, they go to pieces once they, and their blinding corruption and hypocrisy is exposed.
    A smart Liberal Party would be all in with the USA right now, but can’t even get out of China’s bed being thoroughly Dastyari’d up the national choofa.

  181. stackja

    To the Left is Red China getting coal to maintain the party’s hold on power, different to Imperial Japan getting oil and iron ore?

  182. thefrollickingmole

    Death penalty…

    Judgement made.
    Goes to parliament to be stripped of rights/protections and a vote taken to confirm sentence.

    Put some skin in the game for our reps, make them own the laws they pass.

    No shortcuts.

  183. Ivan Denisovich

    Unhinged Zoe Daniels is now using BOLD tags throughout her ‘reports’ about Trump.
    Scroll through it all to see the bold-o-rama.

    Perhaps her kids recommended more bolding. Tony Thomas’ cruel but fair assessment:

    To get inside Daniel’s head, as well as wearing the gumboots, maybe take a torch. It’s dim in there

    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/media-2/2018/09/abc-witness-persecution/

  184. dover_beach

    I don’t trust the state not to abuse capital punishment, so I’m against it.

    Then why support terms of imprisonment? The state can abuse that. The typical reply is that imprisonment is reversible while CP isn’t but this isn’t the case at all. If I’m imprisoned incorrectly for X number of years I have lost those years. I do not get those years back. The life I may have lived is also irretrievable altered by that period of imprisonment. The objection, therefore, is worthless.

    People need to address whether CP is proportionate to this or that crime. If it is, then justice requires it having taken account any mitigating factors.

  185. struth

    A Brexitted Britain, Australia a USA and Canada etc (the anglosphere) trading as a force together, demanding a level playing field and rid of the Paris agreements of this world, good lord, the EU and China wouldn’t stand a Chance.
    Boot the fucking little communists, and global UN socialist supporters out of our parliament and get down to a bit of mining and value adding here, actual manufacturing, with our resources, and we’d be a super power anyway.

  186. struth

    Getting a little blowy in this neck of the woods.
    Cyclone (only a one, but apparently heading straight for us)

    Playing in a beer garden type setting tonight.
    I can sense a disaster looming.
    My electrical gear is insured,

  187. Dr Faustus

    As far as China goes, I believe their line that it’s retaliation for Huawei.
    They’re vicious like that and they have the power.

    Partly correct.

    China has developed into a fucked-up mixed economy, with the CP regularly jerking the big levers to ensure that the private sector stays in line with whatever the CP decides is smart policy. At the moment, the Chinese manufacturing economy is in recession – partly due to Trump pulling the wings off the Chinese industrial kleptocracy, partly due to the inefficiency inherent in the centralised planning attempt to grow the Chinese domestic economy.

    The Chinese government has decided to use the reduced demand for coal in a sputtering economy to give Australia a swift, ‘don’t argue’ – and to remind poxdrop Shorten where his best interests lie.

  188. Zatara

    Smollette perp walk

    Ouch, the Judge even came down on him at his bail hearing.

  189. Tel

    Peter Schiff pointed out an interesting coincidence that the Smollette hoax just happened to exactly fit the criteria of S.3178 – Justice for Victims of Lynching Act of 2018. Yes a scratch on the cheek officially counts as a “lynching” despite the stupidity of that. Whatever the title of the Act you can be sure the content has nothing whatsoever to do what they pretend.

    This act is totally unconstitutional, it is trying to sneak in as part of “interstate commerce”. Not only that but Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz & Lindsey Graham all sponsored this, so that pretty much writes off Cruz for me. Let’s see if Trump blocks it. This is a terrible expansion of Federal power.

  190. Mother Lode

    Will Zoe Daniels report if Mueller shows no collusion?

    The Washington Post and CNN will trawl the report for the instances where Meuller mentions what he didn’t investigate, where he had no power to investigate, where there were allegations that could not be proven etc.

    They will beat all these up with innuendo, dubious sources, careful parsing of innocuous dialogue etc.

    Zoe will copy and paste with her eyes swivelling loosely in their sockets and her tongue lolling about through her open mouth.

  191. Snoopy

    Unhinged Zoe Daniels is now using BOLD tags throughout her ‘reports’ about Trump.
    Scroll through it all to see the bold-o-rama.

    This piece of Zoe’s is similar to a BOM media release. Get all the scarey bits out there before the whole thing becomes a bust.

  192. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2940767, posted on February 22, 2019 at 11:20 am

    FMD.
    Smollett paid Nigerians to beat him up “but not too badly,” say police.

    In some parts of QWERTY world, I think it is called foreplay.

  193. areff

    Dover, that’s a good point but otherworldy. To protect life and property imprisonment is needed. Executing people isn’t.

    People need to address whether CP is proportionate to this or that crime.

    What they also need to know is that it is consistent in its application. If that isn’t the case — and here, once again, I cite Ronald Ryan — then there can be no moral basis for it.

  194. Tel

    Playing in a beer garden type setting tonight.
    I can sense a disaster looming.
    My electrical gear is insured,

    Show up wearing silver slippers.

  195. stackja

    Bourke St killer Dimitrious Gargasoulas has chance of parole in life sentence
    Aleks Devic, Herald Sun
    21 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    Evil Bourke St rampage murderer Dimitrious “James” Gargasoulas has been sentenced to life — but he has a chance of parole when he’s in his 70s.

    Today during sentencing Supreme Court Justice Weinberg blasted Gargasoulas’ callous actions for causing widespread despair and fear.

    Justice Mark Weinberg said any sentence less than life would have been inappropriate given the horrific nature of the widespread carnage and crimes.

    Gargasoulas’ rap sheet shows that from 2009 to 2014, he faced court for more than 20 offences including assault, driving while disqualified, recklessly causing injury, affray, reckless conduct endangering serious injury, assault to prevent lawful detention, escaping from police and aggravated burglary.

  196. Top Ender

    Fresh from being rejected by the Oz this morning, and then accepted, my next comment about NZ was rejected.

    It was:

    What is about socialists? They have their warm and fuzzy statements, but are too stupid to see they won’t work?

    Story: Kiwis pull pin on refugee offer

    So I have fired off:

    This refers to socialism as a political system.

    For example in Venezuela at present.

    NZ is embracing socialism – ask her PM!

    Do the Oz moderators not know what they’re talking about?

  197. Zatara

    And then reality set in.

    U.S. judge dismisses boys’ lawsuit against Trump climate rollbacks

    A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit by two Pennsylvania boys and an environmental group seeking to stop U.S. President Donald Trump from rolling back regulations addressing climate change, saying the court does not have power to tell the White House what to do.

  198. dover_beach

    A ridiculous exaggeration. Imprisonment may not be “reversible” in the narrow sense of “you can’t live those years again”. It is reversible in the sense that a failure of justice can be corrected and the ex-prisoner gets to enjoy the remainder of his or her life free and in the knowledge of that.

    Not at all. If I’ve been found guilty of armed robbery and jailed for 10 years there is no correction by then freeing me if I’ve been found innocent ten years later due to some new information emerging re evidence or malpractice involving this or that judicial officer. Those 10 years are lost. I don’t get them back. Ergo: no correction. Therefore, if potential abuse holds for CP it also holds for terms of imprisonment.

  199. Tel

    What, the statement that coal causes pollution? Bruce, surely even you are not that thick.

    I’ve been to the Hunter Valley plenty of times, giant coal powered turbines, but no pollution to speak of.

  200. lotocoti

    BOM hasn’t yet given up on Cyclone Oma.

    I have.
    The slacker is too busy chucking donuts to bring any rain.

  201. Dr Faustus

    Jussie Smollett Returns to ‘Empire’ Set As Fox Struggles to Decide His Fate

    A car crash?
    Sudden onset AIDS?
    Shot in a robbery gone wrong?
    Drowns trying to save a new-born kitten in a flooded river?

    Many many ways…

  202. stackja

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  203. thefrollickingmole

    Its amazingly easy to spout “well youll be released” like Harkwit.

    Ive had to send people to stay locked away (failed bail applications) and have been intensely aware that Im depriving someone of their liberty based on unproven allegations. Even if its straightforward it still is a awful responsibility and not to be done lightly.

    Similarly when I have made protection orders Im aware Im restricting a persons movements/liberty by court orders. Generally more comfortable with those as they require sworn testimony by the applicant and there is a automatic appeals process.

    But no-one should be too gung ho about jailing people on allegations.

  204. stackja

    Zatara
    #2940805, posted on February 22, 2019 at 12:08 pm

    SCOTUS appeal?

  205. calli

    Many many ways…

    I know! I know!

    His character decides to hire a couple of Nigerian dudes to beat him up while pretending to be Trump supporters. The crime will take place in the dead of night during a freezing cold snap and will involve MAGA hats, bleach and a noose.

    But the plot goes wrong and his character goes to jail for misleading police.

    ……..

    Nah. It’s just too unbelievable. Even the dimmest audience won’t buy it.

  206. Leigh Lowe

    A car crash?
    Sudden onset AIDS?
    Shot in a robbery gone wrong?
    Drowns trying to save a new-born kitten in a flooded river?

    Many many ways…

    Mmmyes.
    Soap opera deaths are sudden, brutal and very, very final.
    The only recorded case of Soapy Resurrection was JR on “Dallas”.
    What is hilarious is that it was reported that he pulled the poison pen and bleached lynching stunts to engineer a payrise (he was only on USD 100 k an episode).
    What advice can we offer?
    Well, learn to code Jussie.

  207. Confused Old Misfit

    Calli,
    Don’t forget the Subway sandwich!
    Brand placement is important.
    Generates revenue!

  208. Bruce of Newcastle

    What, the statement that coal causes pollution? Bruce, surely even you are not that thick.

    M0nty – I can give you in great technical detail what of coal combustion represents a health or environmental issue and what is not. Gas handling, effluent treatment and waste handling is one of my fields of expertise. You, on the other hand, are using blanket statements to smear a legitimate and responsible industry in a mendacious and libellous manner. You are evading the real reasons for China’s actions and dishonestly imputing those issues upon the Australian industry which has long been regulated to operate responsibly.

    I know what you are. There is a commandment which addresses false witness. You should read it again.

  209. Dr Faustus

    BOM hasn’t yet given up on Cyclone Oma.

    Although it’s sunny, there is a terrifying gusty breeze in Brisbane.
    I’m waiting for advice from Premier Paluszek before I know what to do next.

  210. amortiser

    David Hanna, former State Secretary of the CFMEW, found guilty on 3 charges of rape and another charge of recording in breach of privacy.

    https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/former-cfmeu-boss-dave-hanna-found-guilty-of-rape-20190222-p50zkd.html

  211. Baldrick

    Former CFMEU boss Dave Hanna found guilty of [email protected]

    Continuing the great Labor tradition.

  212. lotocoti

    But the plot goes wrong …

    Due to a production hitch, the rehearsal is recorded, but not the take.

  213. thefrollickingmole

    stackja

    After the late details (filming & witnesses) that came out yesterday I had a feeling he was well and truly guilty.
    Good on the lady who he assaulted having the fortitude to get this grub off the streets.

  214. amortiser

    Hanna hasn’t had a good run in the courts lately.

    He was fined 10,200 by the construction industry watchdog in 2017.

    In Dec 2018 he was convicted of destroying documents requested by the Heydon Royal Commission and given a slap on the wrist of a good behaviour bond.

    Now he has a conviction for rape. No good behaviour bond coming here. He’s about to be slotted.

  215. dover_beach

    Dover, that’s a good point but otherworldy. To protect life and property imprisonment is needed. Executing people isn’t.

    ‘Protecting life and property’ is a secondary matter, retribution is primary. In the case of Anita Cobby, you’re saying that what matters most is not that justice be done re Anita’s murder, but that life and property subsequent to the crime be protected. This sort of reasoning always sidelines the injured party. Moreover, we also know that violent criminals are also typically violent in jail as well, and terrorize those therein.

    What they also need to know is that it is consistent in its application. If that isn’t the case — and here, once again, I cite Ronald Ryan — then there can be no moral basis for it.

    Not at all. The moral basis for this or that punishment stands independently of its potential abuse. BTW, doesn’t the Ryan case represent something other than consistency of application? Consistency of application addresses whether like cases receive like punishment.

    The best book right now on CP is Bessette and Feser’s By Man Shall His Blood be Shed. Great on the philosophical and social science aspects of CP. They also show that there is a remarkable consistency of application re CP; namely, that it is applied only in the most grievous cases. The first that they mention is David Alan Gore. They look in detail at all those executed in the US in 2012.

  216. C.L.

    Re Gargasoulas (supra) …
    Gargasoulas given life jail sentence but could get parole in 46 years.
    This detail will live on in infamy:

    During last year’s trial, the court heard police had been tailing Gargasoulas for 12 hours before he drove into the busy pedestrian mall at lunchtime on January 20.

    In the hours before the rampage, police had repeatedly tried to get him to stop via calls to his mobile phone and text messages.

    He should have been rammed and then, if necessary, shot to death.
    My best guess is this was ruled out on workplace health & safety grounds; culturally, this is yet another corollary of having women in the disciplined services (where they don’t belong). Once upon a time, police officers who allowed members of the public to be killed because they were thinking of their own safety first would have been cashiered and disgraced.

  217. Makka

    Smollett triples down;

    Sources on the “Empire” set tell us the cast and crew were waiting at least 30 minutes for Jussie to begin the scheduled scene. When he eventually showed his face he was very emotional, and surrounded by his family.

    We’re told he addressed everyone on set, saying …”I’m sorry I’ve put you all through this and not answered any calls. I wanted to say I’m sorry and, you know me, I would never do this to any of you, you are my family. I swear to God, I did not do this.

    Lol.

    ht/Variety

  218. areff

    Thanks, Dover. I’m not dodging further exchanges, but I have to take Mum’s geriatric dog to the vet again. Again!

    Actually, come to think of it, the geriatric, poo-extruding, snippy, aptly named Shitzu is the perfect candidate for capital punishment. Mum would be upset though, so the flea bag lives on.

  219. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The World Health Organization says that an epidemic of measles in Madagascar has caused more than 900 deaths.

    According to WHO figures, there have been more than 68,000 cases of the disease, in which 553 deaths were confirmed and 373 suspected from measles since the outbreak began in September.

  220. Confused Old Misfit

    All this crying from Monty’s colleagues of the left over the POS that is Smollett.
    Where were their wails for this?
    Rape Survivor Lara Logan Gets Cold Shoulder from Media
    Nothing but a bunch of f***ing hypocrites.
    Every last one of them.

  221. Makka

    Trumps odds;

    The entry of Sen. Bernie Sanders and 11 other White House challengers has not changed the gambling odds on the expectation that President Trump will win re-election.

    The latest odds, taken after Sanders joined the 2020 race on Tuesday, put Trump as a 3-2 lock to win re-election followed most closely by Sen. Kamala Harris, at 10-1.

    And the odds of Sanders winning didn’t budge despite announcing his race, said Dave Mason, the sportsbook brand manager of BetOnline.ag.

    Donald Trump 3/2

    Kamala Harris 8/1

    Beto O’Rourke 10/1

    Joe Biden 12/1

    Bernie Sanders 14/1

    Amy Klobuchar 14/1

    Elizabeth Warren 25/1

    Cory Booker 25/1

    Kirsten Gillibrand 25/1

    Michelle Obama 25/1

  222. Dr Faustus

    Fewer winter deaths hurt InvoCare profit

    “Operating results for 2018 were impacted by soft market conditions, namely, a lower number of deaths,” chief executive Martin Earp said on Friday.

    “History suggests that these conditions are unlikely to be sustained and that reversion to the positive long-term trend is typical.”

    Well, thank fuck for that positive long-term trend.
    Presumably anticipating a Shorten/diNatale Government in May.

  223. Dr Faustus

    The fuckers are laarfing at us [#3207]

    A future Labor government will make mortgage broking fees flat regardless of the size of the loan, shadow treasurer Chris Bowen is promising.

    Shadow treasurer Chris Bowen said Labor’s policy would deal with the issues the banking royal commission identified, but would not destroy the mortgage broking industry.

    So, presumably the non-destructive standard fee will be set to be cheaper for larger loans and more expensive for smaller loans.

    Redistributive justice.

  224. Confused Old Misfit

    Hanna guilty

    Good.

  225. Lysander

    Where’s the dedicated forum to bagging Jules??? Lift your game Sinc! 😛

    So surprised (not) every tv and radio station in Perth applauding the most famous and bestest MP ever and how everyone adores her. So very out of touch with suburbia.

  226. John Constantine

    Kirkland Lakes announce the reserves upgrade for the Fosterville gold mine near Bendigo.

    Possibly the best gold deposit Victoria has ever seen in history.

    The old timers picked up all the good shallow stuff, but couldn’t sniff out the covered goodies.

  227. Makka

    Labor open to Bishop diplomatic posting

    It’s a lock.

  228. calli

    Where Bishop goes next will tell us everything we need to know about her.

    As if we already didn’t.

  229. Snoopy

    In the hours before the rampage, police had repeatedly tried to get him to stop via calls to his mobile phone and text messages.

    What a cunning plan. If he answered they could have nicked him for using his phone while driving.

  230. Some History

    France Votes to Replace ‘Mother/Father’ with ‘Parent 1/Parent 2’!!!

  231. Keith Forwheels

    Dear John Constantine, in case you missed it earlier in the thread. Thank you for your insights on KL. Very much appreciated for you taking the trouble to share. Best regards!

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