Open Forum: February 23, 2019

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  1. Baldrick

    Thanks for your concern.

    We’re all concerned about one of the Cats treasures, Delta.
    Gods speed in your recovery.

  2. 2dogs

    Wrong.

    I agree with Frame and Stone’s suggestion that past models could be re-run using actual emissions (not scenarios), comparing their forecasts with past temperature — after the period against which they were tuned.

    Why won’t the climate scientists do that, I wonder?

  3. struth

    Your viewing this site from such a far left position you couldn’t accurately describe your right foot.
    You’re a moron numbers.

  4. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers – the temperature record has been “adjusted” by lefty activist scientists. That is just like what went on in the Soviet Union. Most recent example is BoM’s cooling of the past with the move from ACORN 1 to ACORN 2.

    The data I showed is a direct measurement via satellite which shows no change in trend for over two decades. There is no adjustment needed for that dataset because it is read straight off the satellite pics.

  5. 1735099

    discussion upthread about Audis.
    I’ve always regarded them as operpriced Volkswagens. They use the same running gear.
    This from Canstar reliability surveys –

    Mazda, Suzuki and Volkswagen were all rated as the most reliable in 2018, scoring five stars in this area for the second year in a row – that’s quite an endorsement right there. In fact, Suzuki makes it three years in a row!
    BMW, Ford, Holden, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Subaru and Toyota all scored four stars for reliability.
    Audi was the only brand with a three star rating for new car reliability.

    Bought my daughter a Suzi Alto a few years ago. Built in India to withstand sub-continental chaos. You couldn’t kill it with an axe.

  6. struth

    Facts are not of a concern to numbers.
    You know……he once went to Vietnam
    That’s a fact he cares about.
    Everything else is an easy link to lefty propaganda.
    But boy, he went to Vietnam.
    That’s a fact.
    By the way.
    Numbers went to Vietnam.
    He peeled spuds.
    They based the character “Klinger” from MASH on him as he didn’t want to be there either.
    Except Klinger wasn’t really section 8 material….he was just pretending.
    Oh in case you have not heard. …….numbers went to Vietnam.

  7. Mark A

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2942564, posted on February 24, 2019 at 11:13 pm

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156282426434370&set=a.10150149146444370&type=3&theater

    I don’t understand facebook, but can someone leave a post on that site that John Nicoletti received NO Australian bids on that land, I’d be obliged. I’ve had my dealings with John Nicoletti, thank you.

    Done.

  8. 1735099

    The data I showed is a direct measurement via satellite which shows no change in trend for over two decades. There is no adjustment needed for that dataset because it is read straight off the satellite pics.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but NASA data is also a direct measurement via satellite.

    Which two decades?

  9. Zatara

    What’s that tell you about his view on the size of the Federal govt?

    Not a thing. It tells me that Kushner is a realistic businessman who recognizes and acts upon profitable market opportunities when he sees them.

    I despise everything about Farcebook and Twatter, but happily bank the excellent money I’ve made trading shares in both.

  10. feelthebern

    Good on her numbers.
    I’m onto my 3rd Audi.
    I buy my Audi’s 2nd hand when they are approx. 2 years old.
    I keep for 3 years then trade in…to another 2 year old Audi.
    100% city & highway driving.
    Never had a issue with any of them.

  11. areff

    Up with the birds. Sun rising, beautiful day ahead, relatively light schedule, toaster does perfect job of just-brown-enough, last of the coffee fills the percolator perfectly, cat gifts me a dead mouse (thanks, Elsie) on kitchen bench, cockatoos being stupid in the almond tree, first kiwi fruit evident outside office window, find $50 in the laundry load, computer starts without infuriating McAfee built-in ad.

    Life is good.

    Log on to catallaxy and find … (sigh) Numbers wanking away with customary vigour.

    Day takes immediate turn for the worse.

  12. feelthebern

    Not a thing. It tells me that Kushner is a realistic businessman who recognizes and acts upon profitable market opportunities when he sees them.

    Agree.
    & it says he’s taking a view that the size of govt will be maintained or more likely increase.
    Hence his investment.

  13. feelthebern

    last of the coffee fills the percolator perfectly

    Nespresso all the way.

  14. Mother Lode

    I get the impression that many warmies are like the little yappy kids at school who like to pretend that as long as they hang around the bullies – and yap yap yap at everyone else from their shadows – that they are tough too. They are, however, careful not to have to take anyone on themselves.

    Warmies seem to get a sense of invincibility as long as they from associating as best they might with the IPCC and the closed circle of jerks called ‘peer review’. Let them do the sciency thinkery, and then the warmies can just yap yap yap about ‘da science’.

  15. Leigh Lowe

    Log on to catallaxy and find … (sigh) Numbers wanking away with customary vigour.

    He claims to have had a holiday in Halong Bay once.
    Got sunburnt and lost his luggage.
    Just can’t get over it.

  16. 1735099

    You know……he once went to Vietnam

    Note 1 – Vietnam has been mentioned upthread.
    Note 2 – It was not mentioned by me.

    Just saying……

  17. Percy Popinjay

    Just look at this disgusting agglomeration of imbeciles (a certain televisual chef possibly excepted).

    Trigger warning: Pretentious wankers

  18. areff

    Nespresso? Yuck. The only way to make coffee:

    https://www.ebay.com.au/i/192797120437?chn=ps

    Worth buying, FTB. Mine is a giant nine-cupper and makes enough in the morning to fuel the entire day with a little help from the microwave.

    Signs of Wesytern Civ’s decline:

    1/Ballpoints replace fountain pens
    2/Timex stops making cheap, jewel-movement watches
    3/Percolators join endangered species list

  19. struth

    Areff….
    Don’t be like that.
    He went to Vietnam you know.
    Yes, that’s what I said.
    He went to Vietnam.
    The bloody Australian government sent him to fight his own kin.
    Communists.
    By the way, for those of you just getting up.
    Numbers went to Vietnam.

  20. areff

    He went to Vietnam! Thanks for telling me.

  21. dover_beach

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but NASA data is also a direct measurement via satellite.

    GISTEMP is neither a direct temperature measurement nor is it via satellite. The only group that measures via satelitte is UAH.

  22. Johno

    Shorten has said he will establish a $460M fund to compensate customers who have been harmed by Da Banks..The banking industry will pay for this.
    Read a sob story about a couple who bought a house,when they had sufficient equity in it they leveraged into three investment properties, the next year they bought another one.
    All up they owed $1.8m, all on a single income.Now it has all unraveled, because the bank didn’t tell them that interest only loans can’t always be rolled over. Now they will “lose the lot”.
    How do you get to a position of borrowing $1.8M and be ignorant of lending rules.
    This gormless couple will probably get compensation for stupidity.

  23. areff

    Bloody spaminator swallowed a perfectly innocuous post in praise of percolators.

    Buy, FTB, you’ll never regret it:

    https://www.ebay.com.au/i/192797120437?chn=ps

  24. Leigh Lowe

    He went to Vietnam! Thanks for telling me.

    I doubt he has ever been further north than Enoggera.

  25. Johno

    Struth,
    Are you sure numbers went to Vietnam? I mean, who knew?.

  26. Farmer Gez

    Electronics are the failing of most modern vehicles.
    Indians keep it too a minimum and you get the reward. My Nissan ute is slowly dying from electronic failure as each system fails.
    It’s almost ready for burial as a 2012 model with 225,000 on the clock.

  27. feelthebern

    In rear window today, Joe Aston, kinda calls Julie Bishop a “star f*cker”.
    Oh my.
    Twitter storm a brewin’ !

  28. feelthebern

    What’s a Vietnam?

  29. Percy Popinjay

    Ignorant and incompetent ALPBC tax hoover becomes the story, for all the wrong reasons (again). From the Oz Media Diary, which I would recommend that you don’t ever read unless you have a very strong stomach. Not even Leak Jr’s cartoons make it any less unpalatable.

    ALPBC bosses seemed legitimately excited last month about a high-profile Emma Alberici investigation on Foreign Correspondent.

    The episode, titled Secret Sardinia, about the poisoning of the Italian island’s people, animals and idyllic coastline by the testing of toxic military weapons, was hailed both inside and outside the ALPBC as a powerful investigation.

    It even gave star interviewer Alberici a platform to parade her clearly impressive Italian-speaking skills (PP – FFS, where’s my sick bag?).

    Foreign Correspondent’s executive producer, Matthew Carney, proudly posted on Facebook on the day the show appeared: “It’s rare these days to uncover a big story … The Italian government has been trying to cover it up but tonight we crack it open.”

    But now controversy is brewing over the much-hyped program. Australian/Sardinian independent filmmaker Lisa Camillo has contacted both Diary and the ABC to claim that Alberici’s Foreign Correspondent story was not groundbreaking after all.

    Camillo has written comprehensive emails to Carney, arguing that Secret Sardinia bore remarkable similarities to her own 84-minute feature documentary, Balentes (The Brave Ones), a high-risk, four-year labour of love on the same subject. Balentes was ­released in Palace Cinemas locally last year.

    She says Foreign Correspondent’s version of the story is so similar to her film that it could damage her ability to sell Balentes at international film festivals. She says these sales are critical to her recouping the $500,000 the film cost to make.

    Camillo tells Diary she has now sent Carney 28 screenshots of footage comparisons where she claims the Alberici version mirrored her film.

    Those similarities range from basic set-up shots to interviews with the same people and identical archival footage of deformed lambs and baby goats, as well as onscreen mapping that carries the distinctive look of Balentes’ graphics.

    Diary has sighted these comparisons after watching Secret Sardinia, and agrees that several shots appear near-identical.

    But Camillo says her biggest gripe is that the program ran without proper attribution to her or her film.

    She was approached last year by senior ALPBC producers and promised an interview, a clip from Balentes and proper acknowledgment on Foreign Correspondent.

    One email last November from Carney himself to Camillo stated: “I do think you are a legitimate part of the story so we could interview you and film with you, hopefully in Sardinia, and also run a clip of your documentary.”

    Four days later, Carney even assured her she would be interviewed “as an Australian academic and filmmaker who returned to her homeland and discovered the story”.

    Camillo says: “I was paid for three weeks of work. I organised interviews for them, logistics and gave them phone numbers for my talent.”

    But the only credit she says she was given on Secret Sardinia was a small nod for “research” at the end of the program, a fleeting appearance and the brief mention in an Alberici voiceover that said she had “made a film to raise awareness” on the subject.

    Camillo notes this was hardly an acknowledgment that she “discovered the story”, as Carney had promised in his emails.

    Camillo says: “I feel betrayed. I don’t want other filmmakers to go through what I went through. It was taking a story from a local and claiming it was theirs.”

    When Diary phoned Carney on Friday, he maintained that his Facebook boast about cracking the story “open” was meant in a local context.

    “We’ve cracked it open to an Australian audience,” Carney said. “It’s been done by Italian media. It’s never been done by Australian media. And that’s the point: we’re an Australian program.”

    Carney added: “No one owns this story.” He said Foreign Correspondent had developed the story further compared with Camillo’s documentary, and claimed that there had previously been other reports in Italy on the same issue.

    Carney said the ALPBC version included extra material not featured in Balentes in a number of ­instances, including interviews with victims, as well as science and law enforcement subjects.

    Just shut it down, FFS.

  30. 1735099

    Electronics are the failing of most modern vehicles.

    Seems that is a problem with Audis – in the US at least.

  31. min

    It is interesting to see how many comment on research without any training in how to evaluate it. One is to look at the data , numbers, where and how it was collected. It took a mathematician 7 years to expose Manne’s incorrect numbers. Japanese have not found any change in temperature over 30 years.. And here BOM fudge temperature from the beginning of records to make them fit. Of course no conclusion states categorically that the evidence can predict anything , just may, probably.
    It is infuriating also that the claims that if you do not agree that CO2 is the culprit that you are a climate change denier. Remembering history I learnt as child about early explorers would have one at least thinking climate was different 1000 years ago. But gotta say that alarmists believe empirical evidence today but ignore evidence from the past.
    Used to intrigue me as a 9 year old when all I knew about Greenland was Nanook of the North, Eskimos and igloos why that mad Viking called it Greenland.
    Oh It took more than 25 years to find the numbers in the research on nature/ nuture were fudged when someone wondered how Burt managed to find all those identical twins separated at birth . Unfortunately too late to take back his lordship .

  32. RobK

    He went to Vietnam! 
    Looks like the word is out.

  33. herodotus

    James Delingpole:
    “I’m sick of the BBC. From its one-sided, embarrassingly hysterical, utterly dishonest reporting on climate change to its endless politicking against Brexit, not to mention all its tediously woke dramas and its unfunny left-wing comedies, I think it has long since abandoned its claims to be a public service broadcaster which represents Britain.”

    Sounds a lot like our ABC!

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/02/24/tommy-robinsons-panodrama-exposes-the-bbcs-left-bias/

  34. Percy Popinjay

    Bwahahahahhahahhahahahahahaa! Just after wading through the Oz media diary (no reader comments allowed), I see this:

    Ita Buttrose is believed to be under serious consideration to take over as chair of the ALPBC.

    The Australian understands the media personality, former magazine editor and 2013 Australian of the Year has emerged as a leading candidate.

    Beyond parody.

  35. Bruce of Newcastle

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but NASA data is also a direct measurement via satellite.

    Numbers – No it isn’t a direct measurement via satellite. The GISS temperature dataset cited in the 2nd paragraph is a terrestrial dataset made up of thermometer data which has been adjusted like BoM’s data has been adjusted. GISS’s adjustments are weird, like this one of a sugarcane field which basically hasn’t changed in a century (graph from this article). Yet they’ve adjusted the historical numbers down in steps of 0.1 C.

    Which two decades?

    Look at the graph again. The blue line is a standard least-squares regression. Since 1994 there has been no change from a flat trend. Yet in that time CO2 has risen more than 10% absolute and 30% relative to preindustrial levels. Therefore global warming by CO2 is not occurring in the real world.

  36. calli

    Thanks for that, Percy.

    Monday is now officially broken.

    😐

  37. Arky

    There is no adjustment needed for that dataset because it is read straight off the satellite pics.

    ..
    I think they adjust to take into account the satellite orbit decay.
    But that is all.

  38. Leigh Lowe

    What’s a Vietnam?

    It us a mythical land in Game of Thrones, populated by discontented window-lickers.

  39. calli

    Shorten has said he will establish a $460M fund to compensate customers who have been harmed by Da Banks..The banking industry will pay for this.

    Da Bank pulled an actual swiftie on me in 2003 which resulted in me losing my house.

    Do I get summa da dosh? And if not, why not?

  40. Percy Popinjay

    populated by discontented window-lickers

    Leigh, the correct spolling* of the mythical land in GoT is “Veitman”. No dwarfs allowed.

    * Deliberate

  41. Ivan Denisovich

    James Delingpole:
    “I’m sick of the BBC. From its one-sided, embarrassingly hysterical, utterly dishonest reporting on climate change to its endless politicking against Brexit, not to mention all its tediously woke dramas and its unfunny left-wing comedies, I think it has long since abandoned its claims to be a public service broadcaster which represents Britain.”

    Sounds a lot like our ABC!

    Delingpole compares:

    em>MALE climate-change deniers are like terrorists, pedophiles and slave owners, claimed a contributor on BBC Radio 4’s religious affairs slot Thought for the Day last week. By the BBC’s lamentable standards, I’m afraid, this is what constitutes reasonable, fair and balanced commentary on the climate-change debate.
    But as I’ve only now begun to appreciate after a month’s tour of Australia, the greenie-lefty bias of your own ABC is, if anything, even worse.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/green-left-climate-change-bias-easy-as-abc/news-story/ae613e00faa0cd5f4db010260a3bf978

  42. calli

    Vietman * is the place hipsters get their “ethically sourced” clothing.

    * not to be confused with Vietnam which is groaning with Chinese owned clothing and footwear sweatshops

  43. Entropy

    Look at the graph again. The blue line is a standard least-squares regression. Since 1994 there has been no change from a flat trend. Yet in that time CO2 has risen more than 10% absolute and 30% relative to preindustrial levels. Therefore global warming by CO2 is not occurring in the real world.

    Actually Bruce, , I dont t think you can say that with absolution. Probably a more accurate statement might be the link between greenhouse gases and temperature might be more complex and maybe even less strungly linked, or outweighed by other factors, than the assumptions built into the models would imply.

  44. stackja

    Four people charged over St Kilda police attack, where officer’s head allegedly bashed into concrete
    Tamsin Rose, Josh Fagan, Herald Sun
    4 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    Four people have been arrested over a violent assault on two police officers in St Kilda, where a disturbing video allegedly shows an officer’s head being thrown into the concrete.

    It’s alleged a group of seven people assaulted two police officers, with the incident caught on camera, about 3am on Fitzroy St, near the corner of Jackson St.

    A 26-year-old St Kilda man, a 27-year-old Langwarrin man, a 25-year-old Langwarrin woman and a 38-year-old Frankston man were arrested yesterday.

    The four people were charged with two counts each of assaulting police, affray, violent disorder, intentionally cause injury and other assault related offences.

    They will appear at the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court this morning.

  45. I watched part of the Sardinian expose by Aberici and thought why are the ABC covering internal Italian matters. Do the Italians send TV crews over here to cover stories about the pollution around Oakey etc. Naturally you have to wonder how much it cost and did the ABC crew get to holiday in Italy after the airfare paid for the trip to do the doco. Besides she is supposed to be the Economics journalist for the ABC.

    Now it turns out the basis for the story is an independent Italian film makers effort who feels rightly aggrieved.

  46. Bruce of Newcastle

    I think they adjust to take into account the satellite orbit decay.

    Arky – No. The graph I gave is a straight read off of pixels from a satellite pic. So it needs no adjustment at all.

    If you are wondering about what it is, it is a measure of the zero degrees C temperature geographical isotherm. Because the area of the planet at or below zero Celcius hasn’t changed the temperature hasn’t changed.

  47. struth

    Numbers( cpl Bob Klinger) went to Vietnam.
    He peeled spuds.
    He didn’t want to go.
    But unlike all in communist countries who only Volunteer, the terrible west had conscription.
    He had planned on being paid by the taxpayer all his life but didn’t plan on having to do anything for it.
    This gross violation of his rights to live a beta male existence has had him grizzling for fifty years.

    So you may hear him mention it.
    Bob (numbers) Klinger went to Vietnam.
    Oh yes he did….

  48. C.L.

    Badly behind in today’s Newspoll, Morrison will announce carbon dioxide crackdown today.
    That’ll bring back the base.

  49. Bruce of Newcastle

    Actually Bruce, , I dont t think you can say that with absolution.

    Entropy – True I am simplifying a little. But to get a flat linear trend a rising component from CO2 and GHGs would have to be exactly counteracted by other variables which are declining. If the Sun or oceans are the counteracting variables then it means CO2 is too weak to be dangerous. It can’t be volcanic aerosols since there have been very few volcanic eruptions in that time and no big ones of VEI 5 or over (Pinatubo in 1991 was the last – that is before 1994 obviously).

    There is no way you can get that trend if the IPCC is right. None. Which is why they adjust the temperature data for mythical issues like TOBS. And don’t properly correct for UHIE. If they didn’t do all of this the whole thing would be over and the money would vanish.

  50. Percy Popinjay

    Now it turns out the basis for the story is an independent Italian film makers effort who feels rightly aggrieved.

    If what is alleged in the Oz media diary story above is correct then Alberscreechee should be sacked, toot sweet.

    No more excuses.

  51. Mother Lode

    What is all the fuss?

    He volunteered, didn’t he?

    I have never heard of any other way people enter the Defence Forces?

  52. struth

    He also went to Cuba where everyone was happy and celebrating their 1955 oldsmobiles.
    He also went to the terrible United States were people were sad and had bad teeth.
    Their president isn’t even skinny.

    Oh yes……Klinger on tour.
    His camera sees what no other camera sees.
    This is because. ….oh yes……believe it or not, he went to Vietnam.

  53. Cassie of Sydney

    Here’s a tribute to real Vietnam vets…to real men

    https://youtu.be/iE9TNG8IQNI

  54. Farmer Gez

    ABC radio Jon Faine interviewed ScoMo this morning. Nothing out of the ordinary from either.
    Faine’s reports after that 3/4 of respondents are critical of Morrison.

    Any pollster would know that this is a clear indication of the politics of the attracted listeners. ABC claims of balance are routinely countered by the tell tale signs of bias.

  55. mh

    Numbers was in ‘Nam?

    Why didn’t he tell us?

  56. Mother Lode

    The idea behind the Foreign Correspondent piece will have been to showcase Alberici’s (for want of a better word) talents.

    So, we saw her pen an article about taxation that was so so laughably ill-informed and suppurating with error that even the ABC knew they had to disavow it.

    Now she would astound us with her brilliant investigative reporting – only to find out she essentially copy/pasted it.

    To paraphrase:

    Emma’s work is both insightful and original.

    Unfortunately the parts which are insightful are not original, and the parts which are original are not insightful.

  57. dopey

    Absolution ?
    A formal release from guilt, obligation or punishment. An ecclesiastical declaration of forgiveness of sins, a remission of penance etc..

  58. Mother Lode

    He also went to Cuba where everyone was happy and celebrating their 1955 oldsmobiles.

    Lefties used to (don’t know if they do so much now – they are slaves to intellectual fads much like addicts to ice) insist that conservatives pined for white picket fences and other 1950’s style ephemera. It was not true, of course, but it was a way of mocking something they don’t understand.

    When it comes to places trapped in the 1950’s through socialism, however, it is a paradise we should be trying to emulate.

  59. mh

    So different to our politicians

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    9h
    HOLD THE DATE! We will be having one of the biggest gatherings in the history of Washington, D.C., on July 4th. It will be called “A Salute To America” and will be held at the Lincoln Memorial. Major fireworks display, entertainment and an address by your favorite President, me!

  60. Shy Ted

    Ita Buttrose will change the name to ABThee.

  61. struth

    You know how it is MH.
    Many a man who has seen the horrors of war do not want to talk about, or mention it again

    That’s why you’re all quite surprised, but oh yes. ……let it be known….Bob “Klinger” Numbers went to Vietnam.
    He even got given a number.
    Now other Vietnam vets who actually did fighting can’t remember him being there and remember all events differently but don’t let thst fool ya.
    He knows John Rambo Personally.

  62. stackja

    Angry coastal residents’ votes hinge on protection plans
    Danielle Le Messurier, The Daily Telegraph
    February 25, 2019 12:40am
    Subscriber only

    People living in coastal erosion hot spots are “furious” with local and state governments’ approach to protection policies, with some saying it will affect how they vote at the state election next month.

    Residents from Batemans Bay to the Central Coast, are fighting to protect their homes, with up to 60,000 properties along the state’s coast and waterways under threat from rising sea levels.

    Environment Minister Gabrielle Upton will today announce up to $5 million in funding for a taskforce to commission studies to tackle coastal erosion in Batemans Bay, after years of pressure from community groups, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.

    Some beachfront homeowners in Sydney’s Collaroy, which was devastated by a storm surge in 2016, cannot afford to pay the lion’s share of a $25 million seawall that will stretch 1.2km from Collaroy to Narrabeen Beach.

    While residents can apply for up to 20 per cent of the value of the protection works, each homeowner is expected to pay between $150,000-$200,000.

    NSW Coastal Alliance spokesman Pat Aiken said it wasn’t fair when the wall would also protect public infrastructure on Pittwater Rd.

    Reminds of:

    The wise builder built on rock the unwise built on sand.

  63. mh

    AOC on Criticism of Her Green New Deal: ‘I’m the Boss — How About That?’

    Friday in New York City at the “Girls Who Code” event, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) dismissed the widespread criticism of her so-called Green New Deal.

    Ocasio-Cortez said, “Like I just introduced the Green New Deal two weeks ago, and it’s creating all of this conversation. Why? Because no one else has even tried. Because no one else has even tried.”

    She added, “So people are like, ‘Oh it’s unrealistic. Oh it’s vague. Oh it doesn’t address this little minute thing.’ And I’m like, ‘You try. You do it. Cuz you’re not. Cuz you’re not. So, until you do it, I’m the boss.’ How about that?”

    (Breitbart)

  64. Snoopy

    Now she would astound us with her brilliant investigative reporting – only to find out she essentially copy/pasted it.

    It just wasn’t Alberici. This was a conspiracy perpetrated by the producers, the presenter and at least some staff of one of TheirABC’s ‘flagship’ programs. The sort of program that is regularly trotted out as proof that TheirABC is both indispensable and incredible value for money at just $1 billion per year.

  65. Johno

    Back in the 80’s Ita Buttrose became a spokesperson about AIDS. At that time the powers to be were pushing abstinence. Ita said she wouldn’t get down and dirty just to show solidarity.
    Anyway she visited Norway, as you do, and took a stroll in the country.Suddenly there was a clap of thunder and a big bastard jumped out of a cloud,landed beside,threw her to the ground and ravished her, bigly. He then got up banged his hammer on the ground and yelled” I am Thor!!”
    Ita gets dusts herself off and yells” Thor you’re Thor. I haven’t had thex for sikth years and you thay you’re thor you big thit”
    True story, ask Bobby.

  66. calli

    Mother Lode
    #2942698, posted on February 25, 2019 at 9:30 am

    Very neatly observed. Comment of the day.

  67. struth

    Am I to understand thst the ABC sent an Italian back home to Italy for a holiday and to catch up with her many rellos, and do some pathetic doco as an excuse to use taxpayer’s money?

  68. Bruce of Newcastle

    Friday in New York City at the “Girls Who Code” event, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) dismissed the widespread criticism of her so-called Green New Deal.

    Ex-journalists meeting an ex-barmaid?

  69. Farmer Gez

    Entropy – True I am simplifying a little. But to get a flat linear trend a rising component from CO2 and GHGs would have to be exactly counteracted by other variables which are declining. If the Sun or oceans are the counteracting variables then it means CO2 is too weak to be dangerous. It can’t be volcanic aerosols since there have been very few volcanic eruptions in that time and no big ones of VEI 5 or over (Pinatubo in 1991 was the last – that is before 1994 obviously).

    I find it interesting that the ice core tracking of CO2 levels is so in sync (in delay) with temperature and yet the fast rising modern levels are departing from the temperature at an increasing rate.
    The core sampling methodologies are either wrong or CO2 is not strongly correlated to temperature.
    What gives?

  70. Johno

    Ita gets dusts herself off and yell.

    Should be an up in there not an off.She already dun that

  71. Cassie of Sydney

    Mother Lode
    #2942698, posted on February 25, 2019 at 9:30 am
    He also went to Cuba where everyone was happy and celebrating their 1955 oldsmobiles.

    Lefties used to (don’t know if they do so much now – they are slaves to intellectual fads much like addicts to ice) insist that conservatives pined for white picket fences and other 1950’s style ephemera. It was not true, of course, but it was a way of mocking something they don’t understand.

    When it comes to places trapped in the 1950’s through socialism, however, it is a paradise we should be trying to emulate.

    Given the choice I’d happily choose Australia in the 1950’s over Cuba in 2019.

  72. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mark A
    #2942638, posted on February 25, 2019 at 8:03 am

    Thank you, Mark A.

  73. calli

    Cuba is decaying 50’s. All the good things capitalism bestowed cannot be improved or even maintained by socialism.

    It’s a cultural and material dead end.

  74. areff

    To be fair to Alberici, she’s just a talking head. Do you honestly think a ninny who doesn’t know revenue from profit is up to helming anything but an undemanding yoga/exercise show?

    What the ABC has done is entirely representative of the way it operates. To focus on poor, stupid, overpaid Emma is to miss yet again an opportunity to explore the organisational and ethical dysfunction of the entire, 1.2 billion cubbyhouse for mates, bedmates, children and favoured politicians.

  75. Bruce of Newcastle

    Residents from Batemans Bay to the Central Coast, are fighting to protect their homes, with up to 60,000 properties along the state’s coast and waterways under threat from rising sea levels.

    Sydney is between Batemans Bay and the Central Coast.
    Sea level rise is 0.65 mm per year in Sydney.
    At that rate they’d all have to jack their houses up one foot in 470 years time.

    Sydney Airport To Drown In 6,000 Years

  76. struth

    Ita is the only one we can depend upon.
    Oh how can I not believe, when Ita tells me to.

    My dad met Ita and said she swore like a sailor.

    That alwayths makes me think of all the f..cking prickths around her that are would be laughing their titths off listening to her, the thorry bunch o ‘ c…nths

  77. Mother Lode

    Very neatly observed. Comment of the day.

    *blushes*

  78. Tom

    Plagiarism — copying other people’s work without acknowledging it — usually results in the sacking of journalists engaging in it. If Alberici and Foreign Correspondent executive producer, Matthew Carney, aren’t fired this week, the ABC will adds to its list of sins that it supports one of journalism’s most serious transgressions, plagiarism.

  79. thefrollickingmole

    Modern wokescolds and rumored to be comedians decide to criticise a funny bloke from about 1985 to demonstrate their allegiance to the QWERTY flag of convenience (whatever it is this week)
    They are comedians without the funny attached.
    Expect to see them on the ABC and other similar stations.

    Bill Hicks was a bit misogynist’ – young comics reassess the standup legend
    He was the Kurt Cobain of comedy, railing against advertising, politicians, the war on drugs, even waffle waitresses. What do the new generation make of the chain-smoking motormouth?

    ….
    Here’s the problem. “These days,” says Petts, “if an angry white guy stands in front of an audience spouting his opinions like they’re 100% fact, people will be quite alarmed.” In the 90s, that was standup’s most romanticised mode. Today – in an era much more alert to privilege, gender and cultural politics – it’s not such a good look, especially after Louis CK’s behaviour. To Petts, who is the co-founder of queer comedy collective The Lol Word, Hicks is “like mansplaining from start to finish. And we’re a bit bored nowadays of that.”


    Again, it’s the toxic masculinity that’s off-putting. “In his ‘Goat Boy’ character,” says Oldham, “he revels in these paedophilic sketches. When he wants to disparage Rick Astley, it’s about having no dick as opposed to Jimi Hendrix’s big dick. Then there’s his repeated references to rape as a moral punishment. For a supposed critical voice, who doesn’t follow all the other sheep, how on Earth did he not realise he was recycling a violent patriarchal trope which has been the bedrock of an oppressive system for thousands of years?”

    There’s more. “He kicks down an awful lot. The fall people are always women, gay people, Iraqis. His routines deliver devastating one-liners to members of the hospitality industry.”

    All the acts I talk to wonder what Hicks would be doing now had he lived. “Would he be able to respond to the current cultural climate,” asks Chloe Petts, “bearing in mind that you can’t say ‘anything that you want’ now?” She is careful to clarify those words in quotation marks, mentioning a prevailing belief among young standups: “We don’t need to say ‘anything we want’. You can dismantle things without being offensive.”

    “If these days we’re more sensitive to how other people feel,” says Oldham, “that just makes life more bearable, doesn’t it? If people are thinking about not saying horrible things – well, that would be nice, wouldn’t it?” He pauses. “On the other hand, if Hicks is looking down – or up – right now, he’d be laughing at how careful I’ve been to not say anything that’ll piss anyone off, rather than just saying what I think. So maybe I’ve got something to learn from him.”

    These people need Columbian neckties.

  80. 1735099

    Another debunking – this time involving an Audi.
    ICDs* are useful…..

    *Inbuilt Crap Detectors

  81. 1735099

    That alwayths makes me think of all the f..cking prickths around her that are would be laughing their titths off listening to her, the thorry bunch o ‘ c…nths

    There’s a lot of it about – especially on this site.
    Back in the day, they would be referred to as the “peanut gallery”.
    But back then they could spell, and their prose would scan.
    Not any more…..

  82. stackja

    Opinion: Don’t fall for this rubbish again this election
    Libby Hill, news.com.au
    February 23, 2019 8:44am

    OPINION

    For two decades, almost every federal election has been dominated by talk of border security as if asylum seekers are an existential threat to the soul of the nation.

    Now, as another election looms, we’re hearing all the old familiar rhetoric about boats, border protection, people smugglers and asylum seekers again.

    So before the election is called, can we collectively take a moment to finally call bullsh*t on these scare campaigns?

    An unlikely influx of asylum seekers on boats is low on the list of threats to our individual happiness, safety and prosperity.

    Political fearmongering is nothing new. In 2016 Labor’s “Mediscare” campaign gained traction with voters but before that, every federal election campaign from 2001 onwards was focused on stopping asylum seekers coming to Australia by boat.

    We don’t appear to have a problem with asylum seekers who arrive by air and there are about 76 of them every day, far more than ever arrived by boat.

    The political obsession with stopping the boats all started with the Tampa affair in 2001 — the same year the World Trade Center was attacked by terrorists. National security became a key issue and politicians have used it to manipulate voters ever since. Political campaigners know fear and negative messages are more persuasive than hope and positive messages.

    This year’s scare campaign is a beat-up. The medivac legislation, will allow refugees and asylum seekers already on Nauru and Manus Island to ask for a transfer to Australia if two doctors recommend it, but it will not apply to future arrivals. There are about 420 people in Nauru, less than 600 on Manus.

    Should we care about those 1000 odd people in detention? Absolutely. Should we fear them? No. Should they determine our vote at this year’s election? Absolutely not.

    In reality, we are more threatened by the fact that half of all Australians are going to get cancer, one woman is murdered every week by her current or former partner and eight Australians die from suicide every day.

  83. stackja

    Former NSW minister Ian MacDonald has conviction quashed
    Jodie Stephens, The Daily Telegraph
    12 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    Former NSW minister Ian Macdonald has had his conviction quashed and will face retrial for misconduct in public office.

    The 69-year-old was jailed for 10 years, with a minimum of seven, in 2017 after being found guilty of two counts of wilful misconduct in public office.

    But on Monday five Court of Criminal Appeal judges quashed his conviction and ordered a new trial.

    They made the same orders for former union boss John Maitland, who was jailed for six years with four years non-parole for being an accessory to the misconduct.

    More to come

  84. Mother Lode

    It’s a cultural and material dead end.

    Well, like all Socialist demagogues he wins the people by promising them whatever the rich people have.

    Not what they were going to have.

    And, because pinning an economy onto a piece of board also kills it, they can’t even deliver on the original promise.

    For the Russians in 1917 utopia was going to be a slowly advancing tide of tractors overwhelming the country side and a steady diet of chickens in pots.

  85. struth

    The problem with Audis is they’re not a 1955 oldsmobile.

    You don’t even need to wait up to 17 years to get one like they did for a commo snot box in the socialist utopia of East Germany.

  86. Zatara

    Cubans ares voting on their new constitution

    Interestingly, one of the items that didn’t make it to the vote was same sex marriage, which the authorities had tried to write in before the Cuban Catholics kicked back and said hell no.

    Cuba’s churches reject gay marriage before vote on new constitution

  87. lotocoti

    the state’s coast and waterways under threat from rising sea levels.

    Do these people ever look at Sydney Harbour’s topography?
    Do they not realise it’s a product of risen sea levels?

  88. Mother Lode

    Sydney is between Batemans Bay and the Central Coast.
    Sea level rise is 0.65 mm per year in Sydney.
    At that rate they’d all have to jack their houses up one foot in 470 years time.

    HA!

    Got ya!

    That 0.65mm is the average. Some places it rises higher than others.

    The same way you have a glass of water and all the water is bunched up on one side.

    Hang on…

  89. Snoopy

    We don’t appear to have a problem with asylum seekers who arrive by air and there are about 76 of them every day, far more than ever arrived by boat.

    Just maybe it’s because they arrive legally with their passports.

  90. stackja

    Socialism tried many times. Same outcome.

    ‘Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.’”

  91. stackja

    Why demanding sports gender pay equality is bulldust
    Rita Panahi, Herald Sun
    February 24, 2019 6:00pm
    Subscriber only

    It’s hard to overstate the profound stupidity of demanding an end to the “gender wage gap” in professional sport.

    Expecting equal pay for equal effort in sport is among the most asinine bulldust you’ll see in 2019, and it’s only February.

    But that is precisely what the Male Champions of Change Pathway to Pay Equality report, backed by the reliably woke heads of major sporting codes — including the AFL, NRL and FFA — has recommended.

    The last time a couple of the world’s best female players, Venus and Serena Williams, took on a male, they lost 6-2 and 6-1 respectively despite their opponent being a mediocre player, Karsten Braasch, ranked outside the top 200.

    But it matters not that female players cannot compete with men on the court, they can compete with them in creating compelling contests and plenty of revenue.

    Ronda Rousey was the highest-paid fighter in the UFC because the fans loved her and paid to watch her fights. It’s clear that Rousey is no fan of feminist notions of equal pay irrespective of results.

    “I think how much you get paid should have something to do with how much money you bring in,” she said.

    “ I’m the highest paid fighter not because Dana (White, UFC president) and Lorenzo (Fertitta, UFC CEO) wanted to do something nice for the ladies.

    “They do it because I bring in the highest numbers.”

    If you wanted true equality in the income of professional athletes then you wouldn’t stop at gender. You’d ensure that every world-class high jumper, javelin thrower and fencer was earning the same as the sprinters, basketballers and footballers.

    You’d make sure that sports and professional leagues that generate enormous revenue because of their popularity subsidise competitions where there is little public interest.

    If that’s your idea of a socialist nirvana then fine but don’t dress up your agenda as some brave battle against entrenched misogyny.

    For reasons that are not entirely clear, the AFLW has morphed into a political statement as much as a sporting competition.

    And, like all woke pursuits, any criticism no matter how mild or deserved is met with an angry and disproportionate response.

    I can say that golf bores me to tears and no one bats an eyelid, but mention that you have no interest in the AFLW and its fans behave like you’ve attacked womanhood itself.

    It’s not internalised misogyny that has most women watching male competitions, it’s the simple fact that it’s usually a better product.

    Rita Panahi is a Herald Sun columnist

  92. Eyrie

    From the Vietnam conscript troll’s link (he went to Vietnam, you know): “Audi’s seldomly experience electronic failures”

  93. Whalehunt fun

    Sea level rise is due not only to the sea rising but also to the land in certainplaces falling or rising slower than elsewhere. So yes the observed change in sea level relative to items on land does vary from place to place.

  94. Whalehunt fun

    These people need Columbian neckties.

    No, they need their heads on spikes near major intersections so the public us constantly reminded of how best to treat these dangerous imbecikes.

  95. Mark A

    Eyrie
    #2942847, posted on February 25, 2019 at 12:19 pm

    From the Vietnam conscript troll’s link (he went to Vietnam, you know): “Audi’s seldomly experience electronic failures”

    Yeah, tell that to my BiL, his Audi has more electrical problems than South A.
    Doors not opening, windows not winding or winding on their own, car break system malfunctioning (anti-lock) etc.

    And every repair costs hundreds.
    I stick to my Ford.

  96. Des Deskperson

    ‘Marta Dusseldorp of Janet King fame is related IIRC.

    She is the granddaughter of Dutch engineer Dick Dusseldorp, the founder of Lend Lease Corporation.’

    Dick’s son Tjerk is a social justice warrior ‘imbued with a desire to address social injustice,’ who chairs a leftish education think tank called the Dusseldorf Forum:

    http://dusseldorp.org.au/about-us/tjerk-dusseldorp/

    He was and probably still is a Labor mate, the first Executive Director of the Evatt Foundation, a ‘ progressive think-tank founded in memory of Labor visionary Dr H.V. Evatt. He also ‘caught the eye’ of Bob Hawke, who made him head of the Office of Youth Affairs in 1985.

    I had a bit to do with the forum when I temped at DET. Its product reflected ‘passion’ rather then depth and rigour of research and analysis.

    I wonder if Marta is his daughter. From millionaire developer to SJW to ABC star in three generations is not an unlikely scenario.

  97. Des Deskperson

    ‘Marta Dusseldorp of Janet King fame is related IIRC.

    She is the granddaughter of Dutch engineer Dick Dusseldorp, the founder of Lend Lease Corporation.’

    Dick’s son Tjerk is a social justice warrior ‘imbued with a desire to address social injustice,’ who chairs a leftish education think tank called the Dusseldorf Forum:

    http://dusseldorp.org.au/about-us/tjerk-dusseldorp/

    He was and probably still is a Labor mate, the first Executive Director of the Evatt Foundation, a ‘ progressive think-tank founded in memory of Labor visionary Dr H.V. Evatt. He also ‘caught the eye’ of Bob Hawke, who made him head of the Office of Youth Affairs in 1985.

    I had a bit to do with the forum when I temped at DET. Its product reflected ‘passion’ rather then depth and rigour of research and analysis.

    I wonder if Marta is his daughter. From millionaire developer to SJW to ABC star in three generations is not an unlikely scenario.

  98. Des Deskperson

    Sorry, posted twice, something I used to think only an obsessive or an incompetent would do!

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