Open Forum: February 23, 2019

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  1. Notafan

    I don’t understand why Catholic parents don’t take primary responsibility for their children’s faith instruction

    As for modernist nuns, don’t be shy, if they contradict Church teaching, have words.

    I was eleven when I was confirmed, when you have drunks in the family though, would seem sensible enough.

    Even my atheist friends can acknowledge that Western Civilizations was built on the bedrock of Christianity.

    I guess if you think it is based on skin colour it is easier to deny reality.

  2. Snoopy

    Thanks for the tip, Bern. I hadn’t heard of Two Hands. I’ll make sure to watch it when series 4 of The Expanse season begins on Amazon Prime.

  3. Ivan Denisovich

    Of all the gargantuan mistakes made by the Catholic Church in contemporary times, the watering down of the older notion of militancy was perhaps the most egregious. The emphasis shifted from spiritual warfare to Being Nice to Everyone Like Jesus

    David Warren:

    Which is not to present Christ as the gliberals paint him today — as some kind of fairy pacifist preaching tolerance and multiculturalism. He was the one who said, in the Gospel of Matthew, “I bring not peace but a sword,” and that he would “set a man against his father and a daughter against her mother.” In Saint Luke: “Do you think I come to bring Peace on Earth? I tell you, No.”

    Upon passing through Saint Stephen’s Gate, he turned left and into the Temple — to do what? He pushed over the tables of the money changers, made a whip to scourge the sellers of sacrificial cattle and sheep, told the dove-sellers to (euphemism) “leave.”

    This is the Christ that Western man is trying to delete from his collective memory: the Christ who could be confrontational

    https://www.davidwarrenonline.com/2015/03/29/palm-sunday/

  4. Johno

    This morning, in news.com there was a story about Meghun Mirkles baby shower in America. Apparently she hired a hotel room at $100K for a night. How is this possible?

  5. egg_

    Terri Butler’s starting to look like a frumpy frightbat

  6. areff

    Posted this on the dead thread by mistake:

    You gotta laugh. Fairfax work-experience kiddies do it again. $280,000 defo judgment this time

    http://www.judgments.fedcourt.gov.au/judgments/Judgments/fca/single/2019/2019fca0185/summary/2019fca0185-summary

    You know, for the money they’ve given Joe Hockey, Chris Gale, legions of lawyers and all the other defo payout recipients, they could have hired a couple of subs well versed in libel-free circumlocutions.

  7. areff

    Tom: eagerly awaiting your analysis of the decision, which strikes me as reflecting a newsroom absolutely stripped of grownups, devoid of the tradecraft that lets you say things without putting your neck on the chopping block and populated at a senior level by people who owe their employment to lineage not nous.

    The author is John Garnaut, son of Ross the Climateer, and equally given to broad, sweeping stupidities.

  8. Farmer Gez

    Thanks for the lamb market update John.
    I’ll give you a bit of weather history from the East Wimmera, printed before the global warming hysteria.

    1851 Black Thursday, February 6th. A day of torrid heat. The whole country was wrapped in a sheet of flame.
    Many lives were lost, along with stock and property. A devastation as could never be effaced from the
    recollection of those who survived.
    1870 Year of severe flood in the East Wimmera.
    1876 A run of dry seasons began.
    1881 Severe drought. Many farmers going off the land, bought up by their neighbours or sold out by the
    storekeepers or money lenders.
    1895 Severe drought started, lasting till 1902.
    1900 Snow
    1902 In the dust storms during the drought, hens roosted at 4pm.
    1909 Snow fell this year with big floods.

  9. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Being Nice to Everyone Like Jesus’

    If there is a God, and 12 years of Catholic schooling has yet to convince me, I want the Old Testament God.

    Parting rivers.

    Smiting.

    Laying waste to cities.

    Bringing plagues and turning river water into blood.

    Pillars of salt etc etc etc.

    It could be likened to a steelworker with a hipster, bearded bicycle riding smashed avo eating man bun wearing son. Was probably glad to be rid of him in the end.

    I’ll have the old man any day.

  10. areff

    I have that same carpet (or very close) in my livingroom. It is visually improved when the cat craps on it.

  11. Notafan

    Great room JC

    Very forward thinkers with the fireplace and stacked wood

  12. calli

    Nice carpet. You could spill anything on that.

  13. C.L.

    Love the ship’s wheel chandelier. LOL.

  14. C.L.

    In fact, that is the ugliest light fitting I have ever seen.

  15. calli

    I’m sure my parents had a lounge with that Sanderson print! And definitely the timber panelling, except their’s was routed. And the TV is familiar, except Pye.

    As for the faux stone fireplace, pure loooooxury.

  16. thefrollickingmole

    Did we really live like that?

    What do you mean “did”?

  17. Tom

    Tom: eagerly awaiting your analysis of the decision, which strikes me as reflecting a newsroom absolutely stripped of grownups, devoid of the tradecraft that lets you say things without putting your neck on the chopping block and populated at a senior level by people who owe their employment to lineage not nous.

    Areff, I’m sure if you dig around, you can break the big news here: Fairfax’s editorial systems are now so broken, leading to a flood of successful libel actions against it, that it can no longer get libel insurance.
    The new ownership surely must make heads roll.

  18. thefrollickingmole

    Stimpy will hang his head in shame he didnt think of this name for his son while in a psychotic episode

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-23/melissa-beowulf-canberra-trial-unconventional-lifestyle/10841934
    Mrs Panin’s son Thorhammer Beowulf married Melissa Beowulf, 61, and had four sons, before he formed a de facto relationship with Dianne McGowan, who was the mother of his fifth son.
    …..

    The two families lived together, mostly in Canberra, with the women looking after each other’s children.

    Thorhammer and Mrs Beowulf stayed married while he maintained the de facto relationship with Dr McGowan — a lifestyle prosecutor Margaret Jones previously described as unconventional.

    The court also heard the women would wear “she knows” and “I know” t-shirts, in a reference to them each being in a relationship with Thorhammer Beowulf while living under the same roof.

  19. JC

    This is the head story on Drudge.

    Patriots Owner Bob Kraft Charged With Soliciting Prostitution

    He was a John caught in an expensive brothel.
    It’s also front page on the WSJ

    Why?

  20. Stimpson J. Cat

    Did we really live like that?

    Thankfully Boomer fashion sense will die with them, and we will all get to enjoy the warm gray concrete wonderland, interspersed with the odd plastic plant.

  21. areff

    Twitter is a gold mine of insanity today. Clementine weaponises her son in the gender war:

    https://twitter.com/NegroniBoi/status/1099089565128679424

  22. struth

    can anyone explain why she even needs to smash the front windscreen????

    Good Moaning.

    She once had an ex with the same model car?

    I never lived like that JC.

    But you could always burn the chandelier if you ran out of wood.

    We should ban any troll that is unwilling to answer this one question.

    Even if they are full of shit, they are getting away with ignoring what they don’t want to confront, and that never , ever happens the other way around.

    So
    If Climate Change is an emergency according to the UN, why are they not concerned with the hundreds of coal powered power stations being built by communist and non western countries?

  23. calli

    That room looks very empty. Let’s put some people in it. Or maybe these.

  24. candy

    Did we really live like that?

    It has a pleasing warmth and symmetry.

  25. calli

    I hope you’re taking Mrs Doom to the Vegas outlets. They’re the best. Also buy another suitcase there. You’ll need it.

  26. calli

    Why?

    Need you ask?

    Trump mentioned that he’d like the Patriots to win. Nuff said.

  27. candy

    Although the carpet does not quite match the lounge chair. Nice natural fabrics and earthiness.

  28. bespoke

    areff
    Not that far removed from other parents using there kids as props for social media.

  29. C.L.

    We also need a car for the garage, Calli.

  30. calli

    I wasn’t allowed to go in those, C.L.

    I can’t imagine why not.

  31. struth

    I know you’ve all been concerned about us up here in Cyclone Alley, but I’m just here to tell you we all survived although at one stage I did see a cloud, and the trees moved as if it was breezy.

    Seriously, what’s going on when people from interstate ring you up asking if we are ok in the devastating cyclone?

    I find these are more of your older set that still get their propaganda first hand from the MSM.

  32. Sinclair Davidson

    Indeed. Spent the day at the outlets.

  33. Ruthm

    Hmmn. Certainly had that lounge. 70s. On polished timber floor and against white walls. Also had the car’s little brother, bright red LX (I think) Torana. Sniff! Beef Wellington is still greeted with cries of joy when I occasionally present it. So really life wasn’t that bad if you ignore carpet, stonework, light fitting.

  34. Dr Beau Gan;

    It’s your infantile petulance that makes me doubt that it’s worth trying to communicate with you.

    And yet, people do communicate with the Donut Event Horizon.
    Continually.
    Day after day, Open Forum after Open Forum.
    It’s boring, and as useful as trying to get a giraffe to sing.
    We’ll never succeed and all we do is waste our time and annoy the giraffe.

  35. Stimpson J. Cat

    Thorhammer Beowulf

    A disgusting Canberra story full of disgusting Canberra people.
    I have no idea why the Japs didn’t nuke it during the war.

  36. Elle

    No Sandman is complete without a buxom belle

    Areff, darling, I did not give you permission to post that!

  37. Notafan

    I was brainwashed won’t cut it in “Trump’s America’

    You knew what it was like before you went there

    Is there such a thing as selfbrainwashing?

    I don’t know that that excuse should cut the mustard

    in fact there doesn’t appear to be what people would conventionally consider brainwashing going on at all

    Should we forgive ISIS wives like Hoda Muthana and Shamima Begum?

    Paul Maley The Australian February 22, 2019

    no linky sorry

    A 2015 tweet from one of the ISIS wives wanting to go home (this one to the US) married to an Australian citizen, a member of the ought to be infamous Rahman family

    “Americans wake up. Men and women altogether. You have much to do while you live under our greatest enemy, enough of your sleeping! Go on drive-bys and spill all of their blood, or rent a big truck and drive all over them. Veterans, Patriot, Memorial etc Day parades … go on drive by’s + spill all of their blood or rent a big truck n drive all over them. Kill them.”

    Either way, Muthana would like the state she once pledged to destroy to take her back. “I hope America doesn’t think I am a threat to them and I hope they accept me,” she said. “I hope they excuse me because of how young and ignorant I was.”

    That’s unlikely. Not long after Muthana’s plight came to light, Donald Trump fired off a Tweet of his own.

    “I have instructed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and he fully agrees, not to allow Hoda Muthana back into the Country!’

  38. Stimpson J. Cat

    Welcome Back Elle!!!
    Again!!!

  39. Elle

    Stimpson, do you have both a psychologist and a psychiatrist? Are you medicated?

  40. Ubique

    Female soldiers in the SAS

    It will happen, by force of a quota. LBTQ alphabet brigade to follow.

  41. Tom

    No Sandman is complete without a buxom belle

    Bugger the Sandman — give me the General Lee.

  42. calli

    JC lured her back with the shot of his loungeroom.

  43. Elle

    Calli, the only thing missing from JC’s loungeroom are lines of coke on the table.

  44. Snoopy

    Stimpy’s recommendation isn’t much use. He’s in WA. Ask your GP for a referral.

  45. Pedro the Ignorant

    Doomlord, while in Las Vegas, catch a cab out to Henderson to the Green Valley Gun Range.

    You can rent and shoot all sorts of handguns, rifles, shotguns and even machine guns (at a cost of course) that we are not allowed to even look at, much less own, here in Oz.

    Very Aussie friendly staff, great facility, most fun you can have with your clothes on.

    Green Valley Machine Guns

  46. Nelson Kidd-Players

    This one is far more respectable, Calli. More for Dad than that troublesome boy up the road:

  47. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson, do you have both a psychologist and a psychiatrist? Are you medicated?

    Yes Elle,
    when I am in Sydney we can go out for dinner if you like.
    Just ask.
    No need to beat around the bush, girl.

  48. Elle

    Areff, no one ever leaves. Only in a box.

  49. calli

    Since we’re talking food, a dessert for Elle, courtesy of Escoffier. 🍑

  50. struth

    I must admit to having a HZ V8 sandman panelvan when I was younger.
    GTS Dash, 12 slotter mags, 600 double pumper Holley and twin system with extractors, 4 speed maual.
    It was a beautiful aqua blue, with one of those nice low profile roof racks, and I took the ugly sandman striping off the side.
    No great love nest in the back, I did have a mattress and bed though, which probably saved my life over and over as a place to crawl into from a party, but we used to do a lot of water skiing on the Murray and camp at water’s edge.
    So it took my ski’s etc, place to sleep and was my ultimate over polished pride and joy.
    Bloody Handy.
    Drove all around Tassie on Holiday and camped in it the whole way around.

    I only got rid of it because people kept telling me it was time I grew up.
    Why’d I listen to the dickheads?
    Would be worth a fortune now.
    Except I saw it as a work van, wrecked only a few years after I sold it

  51. bespoke

    areff
    My first car was an ex show van with a buxom topless chic draped over a blokes knees with her throat cut. It didn’t bother the mum’s but when the dads saw it, it was over.

  52. struth

    Welcome Back Elle!!!
    Again!!!

    did you leave , Elle?

  53. Fleeced

    I’ll let this tweet speak for itself:

    What is WRONG with these people?!

    Michael Steele says Trump probably wasn’t happy the FBI stopped a white nationalist from killing liberals & media people.

    MSNBC host: “That’s a brave thing to say.”

    No, that’s an insane, dangerous, false thing to say.

    Click to see the video… even by usual TDS standards, this is a new low. And from a “conservative,” no less.

  54. Farmer Gez

    1851 Black Thursday, February 6th. A day of torrid heat. The whole country was wrapped in a sheet of flame.
    Many lives were lost, along with stock and property. A devastation as could never be effaced from the
    recollection of those who survived.

    Sorry, I didn’t correct this record for ACORN 2.
    1851 Mild Thursday. February 6th. An early frost followed by a warmish day.

  55. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Link fail…

  56. Nelson Kidd-Players

    That being the more respectable version for Calli’s Dad.

  57. struth

    I almost cried.
    That car, was one of the true loves of my life.
    Just like my old Kenworth.

    One time, I nearly died in it.
    We had a joined Houseboat party just outside of Mildura.
    I drove my Panel van down to the party, which was wild.’
    I got pissed as a maggot.
    They dumped me in the back of my panel van, and headed down the river early the next morning.
    I woke up gasping for breath.
    The car was sealed up, not a vent open, it was about 40 degrees outside, god knows what inside, and about ten o clock.
    I nearly died.
    It took me two days to get over the double whammy of alcohol AND oven induced dehydration.
    A headache that would kill a dog.
    Now you may ridicule me about this but I was young.
    Let he who hath not drunketh excessively casteth the first stoneth,

  58. zyconoclast

    Will the next US president say, “Tear down this wall”

    30-FOOT BORDER WALL BEGINS CONSTRUCTION IN CALIFORNIA

    Several days after President Donald Trump declared a national emergency, construction began on the fifth border wall project of his administration.

    The U.S. Customs and Border Protection announced Tuesday that work has started on replacing 14 miles of a steel-mesh fence along the U.S.-Mexico border near San Diego, The Associated Press reported. The fence is being replaced with 30-foot high steel bollards. It is actually the second layer of barrier to be put up in the area, with the first layer nearly complete.

  59. calli

    Dad had an HR, Nelson.

    Beige, of course.

  60. Farmer Gez

    The 1851 fires “explained” in Wikipedia.

    The primary cause of catastrophic bush fires during this period lies in a poor understanding of local fire regimes and in inappropriate landscape management by settlers. Aboriginal people had managed these areas for tens of thousands of years, using fire-stick farming to clear out fuel build up and maintain tracts of walkable land and hunting grounds. Their displacement by Europeans meant a complete regime shift in the ecology of the Australian bush with the result that tremendous fires become possible.[3]

    The areas worst hit in these fires were barely settled at that time and would have looked little different to days before European settlement.
    Wiki-Smollett.

  61. calli

    You can alter Wiki, you know.

    Just alert the reader that “the above may contain traces of truth” and see how long it lasts.

  62. zyconoclast

    Tennessee gov. says he regrets wearing Confederate uniform

    A spokeswoman for Lee confirmed on Thursday that Auburn’s 1980 yearbook includes a photo of the governor and another man in Confederate uniforms.

  63. zyconoclast

    Top universities will need to accept fewer middle class students to meet diversity targets, regulator admits

    Russell Group institutions must “eliminate” the gap in admissions between wealthier students and their less well-off peers within 20 years, according to targets published by the universities watchdog.

    But in order to achieve this, they will need to “considerably reduce” the number of students they admit from well-off backgrounds, according to the regulator’s analysis.

  64. zyconoclast

    Israel is having far more babies than any other developed country

    At 3.1 babies per woman, Israel’s average fertility rate is much higher than any other member of the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

  65. struth

    Melbourne settlement had only occurred, Eureka stockade had not happened yet, and the Wimmera, well that was Mallee and Eucalypt scrub.
    So here’s the real story.
    Maybe for a few thousand years aboriginal people have been burning off the scrub, petrified of snakes because they hadn’t invented anything, let alone boots and long strides.
    Due to this, the bush had adapted to their behaviour, and also the searing heat of Australia to open seed pods etc.

    They were also scared of big fires, because they died in them.
    yep, they did.
    They died in them as well.
    Hard to imagine this happening to supernatural humans but it did.
    So due to a primitive response to fire and snakes the bush became drier and more flammable than it other wise would have been.
    Aboriginal behaviour over thousands of years, caused those powerful Eucalyptus oil fuelled fires, by turning southern Australia into dry Eucalypt woodland.

    Now the truth may lie somewhere in the middle, but who’s worried about truth these days?

  66. zyconoclast

    Universities should be punished for giving black students lower grades
    The government should judge university teaching on the basis of how it promotes equality and diversity

    The government has recently announced that it plans to improve how black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) students perform at university, putting the spotlight back on an issue that has blighted the higher education sector for far too long.

    The stark fact is that, according to the latest figures, just 66% of BAME students achieved a first or 2:1 degree in 2016-17, compared to 79.6% of white students. This is an issue affecting all universities, and requires a deep understanding of the factors involved and a genuine commitment to addressing the gap. There is no quick fix.

  67. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The stark fact is that, according to the latest figures, just 66% of BAME students achieved a first or 2:1 degree in 2016-17, compared to 79.6% of white students. This is an issue affecting all universities, and requires a deep understanding of the factors involved and a genuine commitment to addressing the gap. There is no quick fix.

    that’s right evolution works slowly.

  68. Zippy:

    can anyone explain why she even needs to smash the front windscreen????

    I thought she was trying to kill a fly.
    The fly won.
    Just pathetic.

  69. struth

    Zyconoclast, the blatant racism of these declarations of intent, needs to have legal action taken immediately, and funding withdrawn.

  70. Nelson Kidd-Players

    That’s the thing, Calli. Who had enough money to spend on a new Holden after redecorating? The HR would have to hang on.

    My Dad had a HK in my early years in classic fawn (not beige) with a white roof. It had factory front seat belts, being a Kingswood, but aftermarket rears that did not match, since Dad installed them one at a time as I arrived and then my sister.

  71. Muddy

    the blatant racism of these declarations of intent

    Wait for Reparative Assessment, where a PONC (Person of No Colour) is stripped of their assessed grade or qualification, which is then granted to a POC from the same course who had originally been awarded a lower grade. (Essentially it’s a straight swap).

    Sound far-fetched?
    Wait for it …

  72. calli

    Yep. Dad’s car was fawn, not beige. I learned to drive in it.

    Uncle had this one.

    Those guys loved their cars. Never a mark on them, polished like mirrors. And the vinyl seats were like lava on bare legs in summer.

  73. My first car was an ex show van with a buxom topless chic draped over …

    My 5th girlfriend had a Phase 3 GTHO draped over her.
    Awesome car.
    It didn’t last. (i.e. the relationship)

  74. Muddy

    stackja
    #2941431, posted on February 23, 2019 at 11:16 am

    Thanks for posting a good news story.

  75. lotocoti

    Clementine weaponises her son in the gender war:

    Let’s hope his name is Bill.

  76. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Areff, no one ever leaves. Only in a box.

    Elle, it is as you say.

    You can check out any time you like though. 😉

  77. Des Deskperson

    ‘You gotta laugh. Fairfax work-experience kiddies do it again. $280,000 defo judgment this time’

    areff, the Fairfax journalist named in the judgement is one John Garnaut, aged 46, Garnet is the son of Ross Garnet, distinguished academic, economic adviser to Bob Hawke, author of the Garnaut Climate Change Review for the Rudd Government and all-round national treasure.

    Quite a pedigree and hardly a work-experience kiddy.

  78. Tom

    Quite a pedigree and hardly a work-experience kiddy.

    And yet, Des, he has got Fairfax into a position that could easily have been avoided by an adult professional not motivated by childish political animus.

  79. areff

    He’s young of heart and younger of brain, Des, regardless of his daddy’s CV. Evidently Poppa’s talent for wrongism is a genetic legacy.

  80. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Each new thread is simply changing rooms. Such a lovely place, such a lovely place.

    I like these hotel analogies in popular songs. Hotels are interesting places where unknown people on their own journeys gather to eat and sleep and have a good time, or not. I’ve mentioned here before how fond I am of Bob Dylan’s ‘Black Diamond Bay’ (on his ‘Planet Waves’ album; Hairy has it). All of the hotel guests about to be volcano’d out of life find their paths suddenly cross. They all have mysteries, back stories, especially the redemptive Madonna on the white verandah, her halo’d Panama hat, her back story a dated passport photograph, and her end little noted elsewhere.

    We all change and we all die, and in the wash up it is hard to find the meaning in that.
    Dylan found it in imagery. Perhaps that is all there is, although he does seem to have found his God.

  81. Tom

    We all change and we all die, and in the wash up it is hard to find the meaning in that.

    Not at all, Lizzie. Life and the meaning of human existence is a wondrous adventure.

  82. struth

    On a Catallaxy Highway
    With trolls in your hair,
    A warm smell of B/S
    Rising into the air
    Up ahead in the new thread
    I saw a shimmering light
    His head grew empty and his sight grew dim
    a troll gets smashed from the right.

    Lizzie stood in the doorway
    Saying , you can’t say P–e–l–l
    And I was thinking to myself
    This could be heaven or this could be hell
    Then she lit up a candle
    ’cause Sydney’s blacked out again
    There were voices from little beta males
    screaming “the world’s gonna end”

    Wecome to the catallaxy blog
    Such a lovely place, rakes in Monty’s face
    Plenty of doom and tears at the catallaxy blog
    from the trolls that are there
    man buns in their hair

    Last think I remember
    Elle could take no more
    A Kamahl-esk remark was made
    And there was a slamming of the door
    relax said the lifers,
    we are programmed to believe
    Kiwis cen chick out eny time you like
    but you can never leave

  83. areff

    1851 Black Thursday, February 6th. A day of torrid heat. The whole country was wrapped in a sheet of flame. Many lives were lost, along with stock and property. A devastation as could never be effaced from the recollection of those who survived.

    There were no official temperature records back then, but unofficial ones say it hit either 117 or 118, depending on which of Melbourne’s two leading thermometers of the day you go by.

    The spotting was so bad, ships at Williamstown had their crews in the masts to damp the furled sails. Ships at sea turned away from the coast and hove to until the wind changed

    William Strutt’s somewhat melodramatic depiction (painted when he was back in England):

    https://www.slv.vic.gov.au/strutts-australia

  84. Pedro the Ignorant

    Well done on the Hotel Catallaxy Struth.

    Caught myself humming your song here in the home office.

    The dog is giving me strange sideways looks.

  85. Nelson Kidd-Players

    That’s awesome, Struth. Can you get away with performing it sometime?

  86. Tom

    Struth, I’m watching chicks playing golf in Thailand and humming your song. Very therapeutic — and good for my swing.

  87. calli

    We all change and we all die, and in the wash up it is hard to find the meaning in that.

    Isaac Watts:

    Time, like an ever-rolling stream,
    Bears all its sons away;
    They fly forgotten, as a dream
    Dies at the opening day.

    Like flowery fields the nations stand,
    Pleased with the morning light;
    The flowers beneath the mower’s hand
    Lie withering e’er ’tis night.

    Used to sing that in a little girl’s piping voice. I didn’t understand it at all.

    Now I’m in my sixties and have seen people (and nations) come and go. There are some things that last though.

    Stupidity doesn’t. It just finds new forms of expression.

  88. struth

    That’s awesome, Struth. Can you get away with performing it sometime?

    Na mate.
    Benny Hill just called from heaven to tell me it was pathetic.
    And yes, the Hills angels are there with him.

    Oh boy, oh boy, I can’t wait……………………..

  89. dover_beach

    Glencore is not on my side, but they at least live in the world of commercial and scientific reality.

    So a private firm responding to pressure groups is indicative of what, commercial and scientific reality? Really. If coal is, as monty claims, yesterday’s energy source, why the need for a carbon tax or emissions trading scheme, or any other market mechanism? If firms like Glencore already see the writing on the wall for coal, and are already busily divesting from coal and reallocating to other energy sources, we no longer need to encumber coal with these impediments. Let us enjoy the last remain coal as long as it lasts without a carbon tax and the like.

  90. struth

    I did a gig last night and a bloke pointed out to me that I’m attracting a largely male audience.

    And looking into the crowd I realised he was right.
    Typical, if it was raining women, I’d get hit on the head by a poof.
    And a terrible undercurrent was to be felt there last night.
    Apparently a Qld AFL side had decided that they had a right to go out in public in Qld.
    And go to a pub.
    No fights broke out, but I feel the publican unjustly put a few of the AFL guys on water too early.
    When will they learn?
    Qld is no place for AFL players to seek refreshment.

  91. struth

    Struth, I’m watching chicks playing golf in Thailand and humming your song. Very therapeutic — and good for my swing

    .
    Far be it from me to be looking for punctuation, but is there a need for a comma between chicks and playing?

  92. Aboriginal behaviour over thousands of years, caused those powerful Eucalyptus oil fuelled fires, by turning southern Australia into dry Eucalypt woodland.
    Now the truth may lie somewhere in the middle, but who’s worried about truth these days?

    I’ve always thought that the Aborigines most likely used fire-stick burning to actually flush out game. The theory about “looking after country” always seemed a big stretch to me.

  93. Tom

    Struth, chicks playing AFL (or League) is a case of stupid wymmymses doing stuff they’re not built for. But chicks playing golf is something to learn from. They have no power, just timing and balance — the magic ingredients in golf.

  94. struth

    I was just asking because you said it helped your swing.
    So I presumed you were playing Golf in Thailand, while perving on some Asian lovelies.
    Which would distract you from your game.
    Well it would me anyway……………………………..

  95. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Typical, if it was raining women, I’d get hit on the head by a poof.

    If it was raining virgins, I’d be washed down the gutter with Jussie Smollett.

  96. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Not at all, Lizzie. Life and the meaning of human existence is a wondrous adventure.

    Thanks, Tom. Mostly I go with the adventure story.
    I think musing on the demise of old friends has saddened me, that’s all.
    Have to stop it. Perhaps also I am suffering a lack of Tim-Tams.
    I am on a week-long diet. Paying now for the sins of that last European trip.
    Low blood sugar probably making me maudlin. 🙂

  97. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hey, Struth. Nice welcome back toon you made there for Elle.

  98. struth

    I’ve always thought that the Aborigines most likely used fire-stick burning to actually flush out game. The theory about “looking after country” always seemed a big stretch to me.

    It’s quite simply a bit of both.
    Flushing out game and making the scrub easier to pass through, and also to keep the fuel down, the bush in Australia has basically been on fire for thousands of years, hence the adaption, by plants, to survive and indeed use it against other competing plants, to win out.
    Thick bark only on the base of some eucalypts to cool fire levels, and seed pods opening with heat, etc.

    Aboriginals set the North of Australia on fire just after the wet, May, and everywhere they go, they set the bush alight.
    That’s why up thread I stated the truth is somewhere in the middle.
    Firestick farming is a wanker’s description.
    But if you and I had to live in the bush , barefoot, and with no means to fight a big fire, or outrun it, we’d be burning the place as often as we could as well.
    Something that should happen now.
    How the Australian bush came to be this way, really is irrelevant.
    The fact is that it is this way, and needs cool burns, and the greenies preventing it, have charred bodies on their hands.

  99. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    But chicks playing golf is something to learn from

    ‘Elizabeth Beare never did learn to play golf … ‘

    Tom, that is part of the end sentence to a little piece I wrote about being thirteen and falling deeply in unrequited love. I suspect I might still find golf too much of an emotional challenge, even now.

    Anyway, I am hopeless at games. 🙂

  100. struth

    Back at it.

    I’m going to be seriously depressed if I don’t see some women at my gig tonight.

    And not the tattooed fatties some call a scenic root.

    I wouldn’t mind so much, but I just know they’re somewhere else, and I know it’s not the kitchen.

  101. Elle

    Tom, my upper body strength is stronger than my ex. He was a tad flouncy. Whilst he struggled, I could rip the lids of his hair gel. Cue calli’s arm muscle.

    Lizzie, you don’t need to diet! I’m not a fan of Tim Tams.
    My weakness is licorice

  102. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Used to sing that in a little girl’s piping voice. I didn’t understand it at all.

    I used to sing ‘All Things Bright and Beautiful’ at Sunday School when I was eleven, living with my Nana in England. Followed by ‘Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so’. Then they’d hand out some coloured cards depicting the Bible stories. I thought I understood it all. In this way I became a cultural Christian.

    My Grandad was my downfall. An old coal miner, he was a self-described ‘free thinker’ who always wore his worker’s cap when we went out together to walk Peter, their fox terrier. Reenie’s filling your head up with parson talk, he’d complain, but Nana just said it was good for me and never to forget that she rented from the Church because she was the ‘daily’, doing cleaning for the local Canon twice a week by then.
    He was Welsh, living in middle England just as we were, and in those days the Welsh stuck together.

  103. Anthony

    Why do the Democrats only talk about impeachment? They have had a couple of years of Trump, impeach him. Piss or get off the pot. What a pathetic lot they are!

  104. cohenite

    I’ve always thought that the Aborigines most likely used fire-stick burning to actually flush out game. The theory about “looking after country” always seemed a big stretch to me.

    The Biggest Estate on Earth, by historian Bill Gammage is the focus of the view that aboriginals had some grand scheme of deliberate and natural involvement with the bush.

    A thread on this bullshit is here at Jennifer Marohasy’s blog. The comments develop the different arguments.

  105. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie, you don’t need to diet!

    If my assets start to diminish, Elle, then I’ll stop.
    I just want my dresses to zip up easily, or Hairy makes a mess of it and the zips catch. 🙂

  106. Tintarella di Luna

    Perfidious Albino

    Cohenite I saw this and immediately thought it was reference to the Member for Wentworth, but realise that’s the Albino Gila Monster, my mistake

  107. Another plus for next Q&A will be seeing Peterson take on Labor’s Q&A member Terri Butler. Not sure why but she probably does twice as many Q&A’s as anybody else. Snowcone is going to have to step in to help her and Van Badham.

  108. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Golly. I can’t stand licorice, Elle.
    (although I have never tried Black Knights)

  109. dopey

    Big effort by Alizee in the Futurity. 3 and 4 wide all the way, toughed it out in the straight. Hughie got her home. Sepoy’s only real good one so far, unfortunately.

  110. calli

    Licorice, Pernod, dill, fennel, tarragon, Sambuca, Ouzo, star anise.

    Culinary heaven.

  111. Elle

    Alan Jones has usually been given free range on Q&A … and good to see.
    I hope Jordan Peterson is afforded the same courtesy.
    Tony Jones need not help the gals.
    Terri and Van can suck it up.

  112. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Is Carpe ready for the big gig?

  113. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I do like Ouzo and Pernod. I think it’s the alcohol. 🙂

  114. Elle

    Licorice, Pernod, dill, fennel, tarragon, Sambuca, Ouzo, star anise.

    Culinary heaven.

    Indeed!

  115. DrBeauGan

    Ouzo has hardly any alcohol and a lot of toilet cleaner.

  116. Fire stick farming isn’t unique to Australian Aboriginals.

    A number of other cultures used it including some American Indians.

    At its very best it’s extraordinarily primitive and gives a very poor calorie return.

    Pretty much at the bottom rung of ‘farming’.

    I don’t know why it is so held up as something admirable.

  117. Shy Ted

    The Heights is screening on the ABC right now. Need to be renamed The Depths.

  118. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #2941665, posted on February 23, 2019 at 6:30 pm

    Ouzo has hardly any alcohol and a lot of toilet cleaner.

    If it were only toilet cleaner?
    Absolutely the most disgusting drink invented.
    No offense for those who like it, diff. tastes make the world go around.

  119. calli

    The Heights is screening on the ABC right now. Need to be renamed The Depths.

    Nadire?

    And I knew I’d get youse going if I mentioned the dreaded Ouzo. 😀

  120. Muddy

    For military history nerds:

    The War in the Pacific did not end for everyone in mid August ’45:

    The body identified as Lyon, was discovered in a shallow grave near the Lae waterfront on the 9th of July, 1948. The civilian doctor who conducted the first examination of the body in situ recorded that his initial impressions were that the European male “had been thrown or pushed into the hole while still alive and partly conscious,” and that damage to ribs and vertebrae were “consistent with an injury that could have been caused by a bayonet having been thrust in, cutting the 8th rib slightly. Then a convulsive jerk of the victim or the force exerted by the person withdrawing the bayonet could have caused the fractures noted … It is my opinion that there is clear evidence of at least two bayonet thrusts, and the shaving of the left side of the 9th Thoracic vertebrae is probably the result of a third thrust. The injury in the region of the 8th rib would have been severe enough to have caused death… Arm bones were behind the back as though they had been tied at the wrists. Some remains of rope and leather plaits were found in this position.

    Source.

    Lyon was one of two surviving crew of Bill Newton V.C.’s Boston which crashed into the sea near Salamaua in late March, 1943. Newton and Lyon swam to shore, were taken prisoner, and executed, the latter far less ceremoniously then his boss. Newton’s V.C. was the only one awarded to a member of the RAAF in the SWPA.

  121. DrBeauGan

    Ouzo, retsina, homosexuality, communism –anything Greeks like is disgusting.

  122. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    He was a tad flouncy.

    So be it. Some people here are aware that I had a lover with gay tendencies for a while during the inter-regnum between Lefty and Hairy. ‘Bi’, as it is called, I believe. It ended between us, fairly mutually. We’d both met others, more suitable. Not then, but eventually, he declared himself to be completely ‘gay’. He wasn’t though, not really. Nor was he the slightest bit flouncy, so that’s not always any signal one way or the other; he was tall, very smart, very manly and as I and others can testify, he loved women’s bodies.

    Mum turned him off women, snickered my kids when they were old enough to comprehend.
    If I’d owned a rolling pin I would have gone after them with it for that. 🙂

  123. Overburdened

    Surf raging, wind howling. Beef and mushroom ragout and gnocchi with creamy cheese n parsley sauce. Considering throwing in a decent Langhorne Creek cab sav.
    Bloody tough in the scrub.
    Bear Grylls has got nothing

  124. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Greeks used to like democracy when they invented it.
    So there is some good in them. 🙂

  125. DrBeauGan

    Greeks used to like democracy when they invented it.
    So there is some good in them

    That was a long time ago, Lizzie. Before they were replaced by Turks.

  126. Farmer Gez

    Fire stick farming can’t be viewed as a stop-start method of vegetation control, considering the fact that fires often get into the root systems of trees and shrubs and can smoulder for weeks or even months.
    The Australian landscape, away from the high rainfall areas, must have been constantly on the verge of lighting up once the heat and wind picked up.

  127. DrBeauGan

    calli
    #2941678, posted on February 23, 2019 at 6:52 pm
    No souvlaki for you!

    Add it to the list. Along with baklava and Turkish coffee.

  128. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ouzo, retsina, homosexuality, communism –anything Greeks like is disgusting.

    Ouzo is a perfectly acceptable drink, if you like drinking pine trees.

  129. Geriatric Mayfly

    Add it to the list. Along with baklava and Turkish coffee.

    And sauerkraut. The higher the Lat. North the greater the danger.

  130. Overburdened

    Poached rat in garlic Cream sauce.
    Thank you Hungarian gourmands.
    I asked a Nigerian bloke if he had any tips on selecting bush meat, prior to heading to Africa.
    He advised, ‘Don’t eat the zebra’.

  131. Herodotus

    When Peterson’s on Q&A the bids for Interruption Lotto better be on the high scale. Does Peterson know what a stacked deck it is in every way?

  132. Herodotus

    Don’t eat the Zebra.
    If you’re black you come out in white stripes, if you’re white you get black ones.

  133. vr

    My weakness is licorice

    Coles sells Black Knight licorice.

  134. Shy Ted

    Just paid the rego on a bog standard car, only $126 for 12 months this year. Bargain! Oh, also CTP insurance $248.30 plus $60 stamp duty on the CTP insurance. And GST on the CTP ins $19.20. Nearly forgot the emergency services levy $32. And the lifetime support fund $90 whatever that may be. Last but not least administration $7. So thanks to the wonders of government $126 becomes $582.50 just like that.

  135. Cassie of Sydney

    “DrBeauGan
    #2941679, posted on February 23, 2019 at 6:53 pm
    Greeks used to like democracy when they invented it.
    So there is some good in them

    That was a long time ago, Lizzie. Before they were replaced by Turks.”

    They weren’t replaced by Turks…they were conquered by Turks and it destroyed their soul…600 years of occupation quelled their fire and made them indolent.

  136. Cassie of Sydney

    I wrote this morning that I avoid ABC drama however I am currently watching The Cry….it’s pretty good..probably because it’s a joint ABC/BBC endeavour….and the BBC still do drama well.

  137. Cassie of Sydney

    “Elle
    #2941664, posted on February 23, 2019 at 6:25 pm
    Licorice, Pernod, dill, fennel, tarragon, Sambuca, Ouzo, star anise.

    Culinary heaven.

    Indeed!”

    Agree entirely….I make nice aniseed biscuits….they are rather yummy.

    Good to see you Elle.

  138. min

    My late husband was on boards with Garnaut sr and noted at the time that he had no idea of how the real world works.

  139. Steve trickler

    Robert Kraft caught on tape.



  140. DrBeauGan

    They weren’t replaced by Turks…they were conquered by Turks and it destroyed their soul…600 years of occupation quelled their fire and made them indolent.

    They interbred to the point that most modern Greeks are ethnically turks. You only have to look at the chicks and compare them with the figures on the parthenon.

  141. Pedro the Ignorant

    I just watched an ABC documentary called “Flying Miners” screened this afternoon on FTA ABC.

    All about the pros and cons on Fly In Fly Out (FIFO) workers in the mining industry across Australia.

    Quite well done, I thought, no Green propaganda, and a bit of a “fly on the wall” look at a cross section of FIFO workers and their families and the effects of long absences on home life. Some interesting characters as well.

    Available on ABC iView for anyone interested.
    Flying Miners (1 hour doco)

  142. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    When Peterson’s on Q&A the bids for Interruption Lotto better be on the high scale. Does Peterson know what a stacked deck it is in every way?

    That’s about the only Q&A I would consider watching.

  143. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Ouzo, retsina, homosexuality, communism –anything Greeks like is disgusting.

    don’t they call Greek, the catholic contraceptive…

  144. Tel

    BARACK OBAMA: ‘IF YOU’RE CONFIDENT ABOUT YOUR SEXUALITY, YOU DON’T NEED EIGHT WOMEN AROUND YOU TWERKING’

    I don’t “need” 8 women around me twerking, just like I don’t “need” a nice mug of rum.

    I could quit any time I like.

  145. Dr Faustus

    If firms like Glencore already see the writing on the wall for coal, and are already busily divesting from coal and reallocating to other energy sources, we no longer need to encumber coal with these impediments.

    Arguable logic wrt a carbon tax.
    But in fact Glencore is not divesting its coal interests, or ‘getting out of coal’ because of science, or commerce, or pressure from activists – that’s a monty Komsomol misdirection.

    Glencore’s CEO, Ivan Glasenberg:

    “What we have done and we’ve agreed to, today we produce around about – or we have capacity for – about 150 million tonnes of coal. And we agreed that we would cap it there. That’s where we will keep our coal business. No reason to go higher. So, yes, it will continue being part of our portfolio. No reason not to keep it there,”

    And Glencore has a pipeline of new coal projects in Australia that it plans to develop to maintain production well into the future.

  146. Bruce of Newcastle

    Some interesting characters as well.

    I hope they didn’t interview my brother. He’s been doing FIFO for the last 7 years or so. That’s tough. As for me I am surrounded by flying miners every day. They’re quite noisy but earn lots of bread.

  147. Confused Old Misfit

    150 million tonnes of coal. And we agreed that we would cap it there. That’s where we will keep our coal business. No reason to go higher. So, yes, it will continue being part of our portfolio. No reason not to keep it there,”

    Because:
    By restricting supply we can cause prices to rise.
    Thereby increasing our profit with less effort than might otherwise be required.
    Always provided some one else does not try to eliminate the demand gap.

  148. Snoopy

    Always provided some one else does not try to eliminate the demand gap.

    In which case we will quietly change our strategy.

  149. Muddy

    Shy Ted
    #2941692, posted on February 23, 2019 at 7:20 pm

    Just paid the rego on a bog standard car… $582.50 just like that.

    You’re not in Qld. then.
    I might have to sell a body part to pay for my next one (dinky 4-cyl.).

  150. bespoke

    Pedro
    I didn’t like going out and bumping into people I worked with but my wife handled OK she didn’t get into the town gossip and had no interest in spending over a $70,000 on interiors of a prefab house like others did. I loved the work though and peace work is a grate motivator. If I did it again Id go FIFO.

  151. Percy Popinjay

    calli – you are an ornament to this blog, I tells ya.

  152. DrBeauGan

    Bespoke, you are overdoing the dyslexia.

  153. Geriatric Mayfly

    This is all new to me.

    The Los Angeles County coroner released a report on Friday ruling his death an accident by means of meth toxicity. It also elaborated on the circumstances of his death. According to the report, Burrous was engaging in “various sexual activities with his companion” when he inserted a “rock” of meth into his rectum. He reportedly inserted a second rock later on in the encounter, placed a mask on and “doused the filters with ‘poppers.’”

  154. Muddy

    Muddy
    #2941712, posted on February 23, 2019 at 8:39 pm

    Shy Ted
    #2941692, posted on February 23, 2019 at 7:20 pm

    Just paid the rego on a bog standard car… $582.50 just like that.

    You’re not in Qld. then.
    I might have to sell a body part to pay for my next one (dinky 4-cyl.).

    A bit vague there, so let me clarify: I didn’t mean I would sell one of MY body parts.

  155. C.L.

    Remembering Steve on his anniversary …
    Here he allows an inland taipan to literally kiss his lips with his serpentine tongue …
    The inland taipan is the most deadly snake on earth – one bite has enough venom to kill 100 adult men. There will never be another Steve Irwin. Loved him.

  156. Pedro the Ignorant

    Bespoke.

    I worked for many years among FIFO people and spent a lot of time in minesite accomodation camps.

    There seem to be three types of FIFO workers;

    a. the young singles who work hard, play hard and love the big money,
    b. the dedicated family men and women who put up with the isolation and separation to build a bank balance for the future, and
    c. the hardened old fellows who love the lifestyle or are trapped in because of drink and gambling habits.

    Type a will normally disappear as soon as a better job in the city is on offer.
    Type b will be there for three to five years, are great workers and will be a big loss when they finish up.
    Type c will be there for as long as the mine lasts or their liver gives out, whichever comes first.

    It can be a hard life, and not for everyone, but it can be very rewarding both financially and in terms of life experience.

  157. Makka

    Struth, was your van one of those orange obscenities with roof racks? A curtain behind the seat? Oh dear.

  158. candy

    Remembering Steve on his anniversary …

    He died on 4th September though.

  159. Bruce of Newcastle

    Pedro – You may not believe this but my brother doesn’t fit a, b or c. Put it this way: I’m not unusual in my family. 😀

    I think the thing he likes best is a whole week off in three. Likes the work too – met sup.

  160. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Seems that Western Australia’s biggest wheat grower, John Nicoletti, is selling out to Saudi money – 200,000 hectares for a cool seventy million dollars or so.

  161. 132andBush

    Seems that Western Australia’s biggest wheat grower, John Nicoletti, is selling out to Saudi money – 200,000 hectares for a cool seventy million dollars or so.

    That’s not a lot of $/ha.
    Is most of it desert?

  162. dover_beach

    This was the @Sacraestvita photo I mentioned earlier. Leeds, 1956 English Nurses praying for their patients before the start of a shift.

    This was only 63 years ago. This was the Christian society that defeated Nazism and fended off Communism. What have we done to ourselves?

    Indeed.

  163. zyconoclast

    I do like Ouzo and Pernod. I think it’s the alcohol.

    What about this for strong alcohol and aniseed
    Arak Haddad Crystal is made with grapes neutral spirits, distilled with aniseed. This unique Arak is produced from the finest green aniseed, grown in the best combination of soil and climate then acquired and triple distilled with grapes. The art of triple distillation ensures this methanol free Arak, so you can enjoy the anise aroma and purity of Arak Haddad Crystal either straight or after adding 2/3 water and ice.

  164. Boambee John

    Late to the thread, but if I read the tea leaves correctly, I must assume that m0nty’s SMSF will be divesting anything remotely connected with coal.

    I wish him a happy retirement!

  165. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    That’s not a lot of $/ha.
    Is most of it desert?

    Eastern wheatbelt of Western Australia – marginal country. Part of it’s leased. He crops about half of it, and runs, from memory, sixty thousand sheep or so

  166. C.L.

    Irwin’s birthday; not anniversary.

  167. bespoke

    DrBeauGan
    #2941719, posted on February 23, 2019 at 8:57 pm
    Bespoke, you are overdoing the dyslexia.

    It irritates me more then lefty’s do.

  168. 132andBush

    Eastern wheatbelt of Western Australia – marginal country. Part of it’s leased. He crops about half of it, and runs, from memory, sixty thousand sheep or so

    Any idea of 10 year yield ave?

  169. mh

    BARACK OBAMA: ‘IF YOU’RE CONFIDENT ABOUT YOUR SEXUALITY, YOU DON’T NEED EIGHT WOMEN AROUND YOU TWERKING’

    Is that from the Quran?

  170. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Any idea of 10 year yield ave?

    From my own experience, just over a tonne per hectare.

  171. cohenite

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    #2941718, posted on February 23, 2019 at 8:56 pm

    PJ Watson always good value.

  172. Nick

    Thinking about the post earlier today about Clam Ford putting lipstick on her son. If Lefties talk about respecting gender choices, surely forcing a child to be female when he doesn’t identify as one, is a crime.

  173. 132andBush


    From my own experience, just over a tonne per hectare.

    Ok, about 2.2 here but good land last changed hands for $650/acre ($1480/ha).

    At first glance it looks like a good buy for the Saudis.

  174. JC

    The Chinese attempt to give us a hard time, isn’t going to work.

    Coal is fungible to a very large extent. It means:

    Even if China banned Australian coal, which seems unlikely, it’s going to have to buy it from somewhere. China has massively overinvested in coal power stations, despite its longstanding promotion of renewables. Over six years to 2016 Chinese coal power ­capacity surged 42 per cent to 940GW, which dwarfs Australia’s 22GW of capacity.

    It turns out China has been ­“investing heavily in a massive ­expansion of coal-fired thermal energy capacity”, according to a new study by a group of Chinese and US economists from Carnegie Mellon University and the North China Electric Power University. “If the Chinese government has been aggressively promoting renewable energy to restructure its energy mix, why did it also keep investing in coal power to the point where the government had to cut emergency measures to limit this investment?” they ask.

    In 2015 Chinese central and provincial governments approved 200GW of new coal capacity, ­almost a quarter of existing ­capacity, and roughly equal to the combined capacity of wind and solar power stations.

    It means that this is not going to impact the global demand for coal. They don’t it from us, but do so from elsewhere, the demand from others will mean we will supply new buyers. It’s a substitution effect. Fuck’em.

  175. Bruce of Newcastle

    The feminist podcasts everyone should be listening to

    No. After a million years of boredom, still no.
    Incidentally feminists hate robots.
    Competition sucks.

  176. Bruce in WA

    Steve Irwin? No, thanks.

  177. Elle

    Thinking about the post earlier today about Clam Ford putting lipstick on her son. If Lefties talk about respecting gender choices, surely forcing a child to be female when he doesn’t identify as one, is a crime.

    WTF? The deluded bitch put lipstick on her son? I missed the post. It’s outright child abuse!

  178. rickw

    They don’t it from us, but do so from elsewhere, the demand from others will mean we will supply new buyers.

    “Elsewhere” in the main will mean higher freight costs for exactly the same thing.

  179. C.L.

    Steve Irwin? No, thanks.

    Well, I wasn’t offering him to you like a scone.
    But I’ll bite: why’s that?

  180. rickw

    There will never be another Steve Irwin. Loved him.

    Yep, people that dumb don’t last long!

  181. Bruce in WA

    Well, I wasn’t offering him to you like a scone.
    But I’ll bite: why’s that?

    1. Self-centred
    2. Embarrassingly “Ocker”
    3. Animal molester
    4. One-trick donkey

  182. C.L.

    1. Self-centred
    2. Embarrassingly “Ocker”
    3. Animal molester
    4. One-trick donkey

    Uh-huh.

  183. rickw

    Ouzo is a perfectly acceptable drink, if you like drinking pine trees.

    Retsina?

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    At first glance it looks like a good buy for the Saudis.

    About five years ago, John Nicoletti’s bank pulled the plug on him – 70,000 hectares for a touch over $43 million quid to Hong Kong money, on a leaseback basis.

    It’s an ongoing argument, here, in the Wild West. On one hand, selling out to foreign money earns you abusive phone calls, on the other, if you want to “sell the place and retire”, and you don’t even get a bid from local money, what choice do you have?

  185. Bruce in WA

    Uh-huh.

    Believe it or not … your choice. Me, I couldn’t stand the knob jockey.

  186. rickw

    Irwin wrecked the infant NT crocodile trophy shooting industry.

    Basically he screwed a number of hard working ordinary Australians because shooting animals is bad.

    Despite the fact that NT government contractors now need to shoot them anyway.

  187. Bruce in WA

    Have an author-signed copy of “Fire of a thousand suns”, by the tailgunner of the “Enola Gay”, given to me by a North American web-friend, so I’m off to read that with a scotch before bed. Goodnight, all.

  188. rickw

    Aboriginal behaviour over thousands of years, caused those powerful Eucalyptus oil fuelled fires, by turning southern Australia into dry Eucalypt woodland.

    I think it’s interesting that there’s large stands of “Murray Pines” in NE Victoria and Southern NSW. How did these large stands of pines survive fire stick “farming”. Maybe there weren’t many of the indigenous in these areas?

  189. min

    Got some tickets for Jordan Peterson on Wednesday earlier today ,a friend saw him last week and said he was inspirational. I watched an interview with John Anderson done after Sydney at the opera house. Q&A was mentioned and he is well aware of the format here. There are so many followers these days I doubt that Tony Jones would want any backlash.
    BTW friends who have seen him already said they were the only oldies, mostly 25 to 50 maybe and more males than females .

  190. Leo G

    Is that from* the Quran?

    The squatting or bent-over position is suggestive.

    *Twerking- adjective : describes dancing to hip-hop or pop music in a very sensual way typically by thrusting or shaking the buttocks and hips while in a squatting or bent-over position.

  191. Mark A

    Bruce in WA
    #2941747, posted on February 23, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    Steve Irwin? No, thanks.

    Not my fav family either.
    Sorry about the way he’s gone but I’d feel the same for anyone.

  192. Mark A

    Leo G
    #2941764, posted on February 23, 2019 at 11:01 pm

    *Twerking- adjective : describes dancing to hip-hop or pop music in a very sensual way typically by thrusting or shaking the buttocks and hips while in a squatting or bent-over position.

    Thanks for that Leo, I knew it had to do with sex but wasn’t interested enough to look it up.
    Sometimes, being ‘normal’ leaves you ignorant.

    Maybe not a bad way to be?

  193. Steve Irwin. The man who bought prime Brigalow farming land and set to work replanting Brigalow on it.

  194. Gab

    I quite liked Steve Irwin. Child-like innocence, loved animals, stuck to looking after animals and never got political. A great showman. Crazy as a cut snake.

  195. Top Ender

    Bruce in WA: “Have an author-signed copy of “Fire of a thousand suns”, by the tailgunner of the “Enola Gay””

    Bruce, in the light of the research I’m currently engaged in, would be interested to hear if there are any new revelations beyond what be expected, in the book.

  196. DrBeauGan

    Gab
    #2941768, posted on February 23, 2019 at 11:43 pm
    I quite liked Steve Irwin. Child-like innocence, loved animals, stuck to looking after animals and never got political. A great showman. Crazy as a cut snake.

    I have an American friend who loved him. But she also assumed he was a typical Australian. I had to explain we aren’t all like him. Even those of us who like animals.

  197. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Have an author-signed copy of “Fire of a thousand suns”, by the tailgunner of the “Enola Gay”, given to me by a North American web-friend, so I’m off to read that with a scotch before bed. Goodnight, all.

    Memsahib’s retired early – her gout is giving trouble. I’m pouring a large Scotch, and sitting, overlooking the Avon Valley, with Tom Frame’s classic account of the HMAS Melbourne/ Voyager collision. Royal Australian Navy seems to have gone to some lengths to conceal the fact that the Captain of the Voyager was a hopeless drunk, who may, or may not, have been fit to command a toy boat, in his bath.

  198. Well, hang me if I won’t join the club & start early tonight.
    I’ll pour a scotch myself, Laphroaig or somesuch, & flip open my current read, all about Tom Dick & Harry.
    The ones dug at Sagan that is.

  199. areff

    The second voyager inquiry examined his drinking habits, concluded he liked a drop but didn’t find that he was under the influence when the collision happened. That’s from memory — think it was prompted by an ex-officer crying ‘coverup’. Do remember Herald posters outside the local milkbar saying “Drunken Duncan” in 240pt caps

  200. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Well, hang me if I won’t join the club & start early tonight.
    I’ll pour a scotch myself, Laphroaig or somesuch, & flip open my current read, all about Tom Dick & Harry.
    The ones dug at Sagan that is.

    Mine’s a large Ardbergh. Slianthe. What’s your reading on “The Great Escape?”

  201. Leigh Lowe

    HMAS Melbourne sunk more warships than any other RAN vessel.
    Pity they were ours or our allies.

  202. Memoryvault

    WOW!!

    Late Saturday night at the Cat, and only eleven posts in the last hour.
    And if you discount Steve Irwin and comments about which Scotch to drink while reading some book about some long dead military issue, there’s nothing of consequence at all.

    Is it time to bring down the final curtain on the Cat?

  203. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    That’s from memory — think it was prompted by an ex-officer crying ‘coverup’. Do remember Herald posters outside the local milkbar saying “Drunken Duncan” in 240pt caps

    That would have been Peter Cabban – Executive officer, of the Voyager, who had resigned some time before the collision. He made a statement that Stevens may have overindulged quite often on shore – one bender involved three bottles of brandy in two days, another involved a signal that “Your captain has passed out, and will be returned to you, when he is fit” – and he may have spent the odd few days in his cabin, being looked after by his steward, but he never drank at sea.

  204. Turned out the first bottle I grabbed was Glenmorangie 18yo in some fancy bottle, so perhaps it is 18yo Sherrywood or somesuch.
    The book is “The Longest Tunnel” by Alan Burgess 1990.
    This is a more comprehensive backgrounding than anything I’ve read before.

  205. Late Saturday night at the Cat, and only eleven posts in the last hour.
    And if you discount Steve Irwin and comments about which Scotch to drink while reading some book about some long dead military issue, there’s nothing of consequence at all.

    Is it time to bring down the final curtain on the Cat?

    Gee whillikers no!
    The Cat is wanker-free at night, for a change.
    Things are looking up.

  206. struth

    Struth, was your van one of those orange obscenities with roof racks? A curtain behind the seat? Oh dear.

    Read Back Makka.
    I went into great detail to explain it wasn’t that at all.

    C.L………………….Erwin was a dickhead.
    His wife ran the show.

    Iv’e seen this syndrome a bit.
    Yank tourist comes to Australia, says to a dumb Aussie, They’d love you back at home, say “Crikey”….no no, dear, Americans won’t think it’s corny, trust me……………
    That’s why he was big in the states.
    She was right about that.
    He probably made a lot of money.
    By making himself and his fellow country men look like fuckwits.
    He dies, being a dickhead and starting to believe his own Dr Doolittle bullshit regarding animals, and she turns to the next money making peasants, her children to him.
    She’s scum.
    He was just an idiot.

    Regarding your video above, that’s old hat.

    Watch any nightly show with Rex the snake man in Alice Springs.
    I used to help him at times.
    ]As long as you stay very still you are usually very fine with our snakes.
    You feed them well and stick them down a hole, in that case, it was one of Rex’s snakes.
    Stay still and no problem..
    Snakes have poor eye sight and no hearing.
    you create no vibration.
    I don’t know if it’s that exact snake but I’ve had Rex’s snakes , deadly browns, or “inland taipans” slither between my legs, and I just stayed perfectly still.
    Does it every night in a show.
    His guys would do it every day in shows as well.
    No problem.
    Not being a hero, because if it was a harmless huntsman spider, I’d be swinging from the rafters.

  207. struth

    Rex is the greatest snake man I’ve ever known, and I’ve seen plenty of them.
    But even he slipped up, so far twice.
    Forgot to wash his hands just once after handling a dead mouse to feed one snake, and stuck his hand in the cage of another.
    That nearly did him in.
    The problem with Australian snakes is you don’t know whether they’ve given you a hello bite ( hardly any neurotoxin or a “you’re trying to kill me with a shovel so take this ya bastard” bite.

    How much anti-venom is too much?

  208. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Gee whillikers no!
    The Cat is wanker-free at night, for a change.
    Things are looking up.

    Curse you, Socrates – we all know that Saturday night on the Cat is smashed beer jugs, broken furniture, despoiled women sobbing in dark corners, and the sound of sirens as the riot squad arrives, but yes, you may have identified the reason for the sudden attack of decorum. No great loss, IMHO.

    Oh, two good books on “The Real Great Escape” are by Guy Walters, and “The Human Game” by Simon Read. Walters makes the point that, for every air crewman burning to escape, there were at least one who had survived being shot down, possibly crashed, survived capture, and was waiting out the end of the war…Read’s book is the account of how the Gestapo agents, who murdered the “fifty” were tracked down, and hanged.

  209. struth

    Once , I vaguely remember Irwin borrowing one of Rex’s monitors for a car promotion at the Casino in Alice, with a heap of townie Journos there.
    It bit him quite badly and he stormed out in a huff.

    That Attenborough chap does the same thing.
    Uses animals from people like Rex.
    Used everything from snakes to thorny devils.

  210. struth

    Bugger you, Zulu.
    I did a nice quiet gig this evening on a beautiful riverside venue, and came home.
    Now I feel like a Scotch and there is none in the house.
    Am I really going to head out at this time of night….no, nothings open.

    Looks like a cup of tea is in order.

    Just one nice scotch would be lovely.

  211. C.L.

    Have an author-signed copy of “Fire of a thousand suns”, by the tailgunner of the “Enola Gay”, given to me by a North American web-friend, so I’m off to read that with a scotch before bed.

    That’s the adventurous spirit.

  212. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Just one nice scotch would be lovely.

    Sorry, old son, I’m onto my fourth. Suffer in your jocks.

  213. struth

    Sorry, old son, I’m onto my fourth. Suffer in your jocks.

    I am.
    I didn’t go with the tea option.
    I got a scotch glass, filled it full of ice and filled it with coke bloody zero.
    looks good, tastes cold, ……………………..oh, god, what has my life come to?

  214. Memoryvault

    Looks like a cup of tea is in order.
    Just one nice scotch would be lovely.

    You need to learn to start planning ahead, Struth.
    Some things are just too important to leave to chance.
    Running out of alcohol is very high on the list of things to avoid.

  215. struth

    You need to learn to start planning ahead, Struth.
    Some things are just too important to leave to chance.
    Running out of alcohol is very high on the list of things to avoid.

    Exactly, it’s poor housekeeping from Mrs Struth.
    Well asleep when I got home.
    You wonder why you let them out of the kitchen.

  216. C.L.

    C.L………………….Erwin was a dickhead…
    She’s scum.
    He was just an idiot.

    Jesus, calm down. Bruce has already given us one jealous tantrum about Irwin.

  217. Woolfe

    8am and clear sky in Dallas.

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