Monday Forum: February 25, 2019

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  1. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Morning, all.

  2. Slim Cognito

    Good to see Mark Knight cleared by the Press Council over his Serena Williams cartoon. It was no sure thing given how these things usually go.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    I love electric cars, they are such a great example of what happens when a company believes lefty religious hysteria.

    Ground-breaking electric Chevrolet Volt runs out of juice (Physorg, 23 Feb)

    At Detroit’s auto show in 2007, they unveiled the Chevrolet Volt concept car, not knowing yet whether they had the technology to pull off a major breakthrough in battery-powered vehicles.

    It took nearly four more years, but the first Volt—a longer-range version of a plug-in hybrid—rolled off the assembly line late in 2010. GM had hopes that customers would be ready for a car that could go 38 miles on electricity before a small internal combustion generator kicked in.

    They weren’t. On Tuesday, the last Volt was built with little ceremony at a Detroit factory that’s now slated to close. Sales averaged less than 20,000 per year, not enough to sustain the costly undertaking.

    Whack. Another one bites the dust. All the other high profile EV and hybrid projects are going to faceplant exactly the same way. The billions spent will all be wasted.

    No one except brainwashed Gaia cultists wants to drive flimsy underpowered golf carts. ‘Chelsea tractors’ are a thing for very good reason.

  4. areff

    Distressing to see that, in addition to Tim B going entirely behind the paywall, Bolt is increasingly putting his posts there as well.

    News Corp is free to run its business anyway it wants, but the effective muffling of two leading critics of the New Establishment remains a great loss. Would have liked to read Andrew’s item on Vince Connelly, for example, but it’s blocked.

  5. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bill Shorten puts election deadline on Scott Morrison
    Sheradyn Holderhead, The Daily Telegraph
    February 24, 2019 9:38pm
    Subscriber only

    Labor Leader Bill Shorten believes he has the upcoming election in the bag, informing Prime Minister Scott Morrison in a letter that his Opposition front bench will try to meet with senior public servants in the coming weeks to ensure a “smooth transition of power”.

    Mr Shorten has taken the extraordinary step of effectively putting an election deadline on the Coalition government despite it being up to Mr Morrison to decide when the country goes to the polls.

    While it is widely speculated the election will be held by May 18, so that the election of both houses of parliament are held at the same time, there does not technically need to be a lower house election until August.

  6. Roger

    Be careful what you wish for:

    US judge says all male military draft unconstitutional, women must register too.

    All those female SJWs on American campuses may now have to register for military service in order to qualify for their student loans.

  7. Pete of Perth

    This evening, Ultimo will be the site of much wailing and gnashing of teeth. I will watch despite the danger to my TV.

  8. Zatara

    Cubans have voted on their new constitution

    Interestingly, one of the items that didn’t make it to the vote was same sex marriage, which the authorities had tried to write in before the Cuban Catholics kicked back and said hell no.

    Cuba’s churches reject gay marriage before vote on new constitution

  9. Snoopy

    Michael Rowland is in Vietnam to cover the Trump Kim summit. I hope Zoe is there too. We need her incisive insights. Her work at the Singapore summit was a credit to her profession.

  10. Snoopy

    Joe O’Brien must be pissed off. He only got to cover the Townsville floods. Apparently TheirABC doesn’t employ any competent reporters in Queensland.

  11. Cassie of Sydney

    “areff
    #2942739, posted on February 25, 2019 at 10:12 am
    Distressing to see that, in addition to Tim B going entirely behind the paywall, Bolt is increasingly putting his posts there as well.

    News Corp is free to run its business anyway it wants, but the effective muffling of two leading critics of the New Establishment remains a great loss. Would have liked to read Andrew’s item on Vince Connelly, for example, but it’s blocked.”

    I don’t think that Bolt’s site is any loss….it has become infested with leftist GetUp activists. I gave up reading it over a year ago….I just couldn’t stomach the trolls.

  12. Snoopy

    C.L.
    #2942684, posted on February 25, 2019 at 9:04 am
    Badly behind in today’s Newspoll, Morrison will announce carbon dioxide crackdown today.
    That’ll bring back the base.

    Ta dah!

    ScoMo promises $2 billion over 10 years to further punish carbon.

  13. stackja

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2942763, posted on February 25, 2019 at 10:36 am

    Will MSM take a haircut?

  14. thefrollickingmole

    dover_beach
    This is worth a read as well.

    Looks like decades of educating people Isr a el is an illegitimate murder state as well as importing a few million Mohammedans is starting to pay off in the UK.
    Id tended to dismiss the anti Se m e tism around their Labor party as just the usual bullcrap, but it seems the memes have borne fruit.

    Anger, denial and prejudice fester on the streets of Liverpool Wavertree

    What did she think about the allegations of antisemitism? “I don’t know,” she said, looking bemused. “All the wars are about religion.”

    Stephen Brown, who supplements his pension by selling sausages to the local pubs, also said he was sad Berger was gone. “She didn’t deserve to be treated that way,” he said, adding as an unthinking afterthought, “even though she is J e w sh.”
    “I’ve got nothing against Jeremy Corbyn,” he said, “but he got into bed with the wrong J e w s.” What did that mean? “The high rollers,” he explained.
    ..
    “I work with J e w s in the building business, and they’re lovely people. Then, when you’re in the pub with your friends, someone will talk about the Jews, the Rot hsc hil ds and all that.”
    ..
    It’s been often said that Corbyn has to find a way of uniting the metropolitan middle class and the disaffected northern working-class Labour voters. In Wavertree, there are signs of an unholy alliance taking shape between those on the wrong end of austerity, who associate J e w s with wealth and power, and bourgeois radicals who view Jvev ws through the prism of Pale sti ne.

    This is likely to end badly…

  15. Notafan

    We don’t appear to have a problem with asylum seekers who arrive by air and there are about 76 of them every day, far more than ever arrived by boat.

    Let me count the ways

    No passports no documents with all the implications of why they would be destroyed and therefore no millions/billions spent trying to identify people who are presenting false personas, no doubt those people include terrorists and criminals.

    No people smugglers profiting from the trafficking of humans

    No deaths at sea from leaky boats and marauding pirates

    Most arriving by air are able to be turned back immediately. iirc around 90% which the lying by omission journalist cunningly left out.

  16. egg_

    Badly behind in today’s Newspoll, Morrison will announce carbon dioxide crackdown today.

    Headline: Turkey annonces sharper axes for Christmas!

  17. thefrollickingmole

    Try again, bird words shit me…

    dover_beach
    This is worth a read as well.

    Looks like decades of educating people Isr a el is an illegitimate murder state as well as importing a few million Mohammedans is starting to pay off in the UK.
    Id tended to dismiss the anti Se m e tism around their Labor party as just the usual bullcrap, but it seems the memes have borne fruit.

    Anger, denial and prejudice fester on the streets of Liverpool Wavertree

    What did she think about the allegations of antisemitism? “I don’t know,” she said, looking bemused. “All the wars are about religion.”

    Stephen Brown, who supplements his pension by selling sausages to the local pubs, also said he was sad Berger was gone. “She didn’t deserve to be treated that way,” he said, adding as an unthinking afterthought, “even though she is J e w sh.”
    “I’ve got nothing against Jeremy Corbyn,” he said, “but he got into bed with the wrong J e w s.” What did that mean? “The high rollers,” he explained.
    ..
    “I work with J e w s in the building business, and they’re lovely people. Then, when you’re in the pub with your friends, someone will talk about the J e w s, the Rot hsc hil ds and all that.”
    ..
    It’s been often said that Corbyn has to find a way of uniting the metropolitan middle class and the disaffected northern working-class Labour voters. In Wavertree, there are signs of an unholy alliance taking shape between those on the wrong end of austerity, who associate J e w s with wealth and power, and bourgeois radicals who view Jvev ws through the prism of Pale sti ne.

    This is likely to end badly…

  18. 1735099

    No one except brainwashed Gaia cultists wants to drive flimsy underpowered golf carts

    These underpowered golf carts?

  19. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Shame Bolt and Blair can’t at least put up their material, or selected extracts of it, for general viewing, maybe minus the ability to comment, say a week after their ‘topicality’ for newspaper sales has diminished, maybe even paid for by advertising. On an ad funded platform they or the parent company might even make some money from it. People aren’t going to subscribe for just one or two columnists so the company would have no real loss, and those who might be prepared to subscribe just for two would want to read immediately rather than see stuff a week later.

  20. stackja

    Drivers stranded, one dead in US blizzard
    Associated Press
    23 minutes ago

    Dozens of motorists stranded by a blizzard which has dumped more than 30cm of snow across the Midwestern United States have been rescued by authorities.

    In Wisconsin, one person was killed and several others injured on Sunday in a 40-vehicle interstate pile-up during white-out conditions.

    The Minnesota National Guard rescued 30 people in Freeborn County on Saturday night, Minnesota Homeland Security and Emergency Management said in a tweet.

    Sheriff’s deputies rescued an additional 20 people.

    Forty-eight people were sheltered at a Guard armory in Albert Lea, near the Minnesota-Iowa border, while the Owatonna armory housed 24 people stranded by the blizzard.

    Governor Tim Walz declared a state of emergency late Saturday and ordered the Guard to help stranded motorists in Freeborn and Steele counties.

    Conditions were so bad in southern Minnesota on Sunday state Homeland Security and Emergency Management Director Joe Kelly urged residents to either stay home or if they are stranded on the road, to stay in their vehicle and wait for help.

    The Minnesota Department of Transportation said Interstate 35 was closed from Owatonna to the Iowa border and I-90 from Dexter in Mower County west, due to poor driving conditions with blowing and drifting snow.

    Many other highways in southeastern Minnesota were closed on Sunday morning.

    The National Weather Service reported 33 cm of snow in Kasson, 29 cm in Albert Lea and 27.9 cm in Ellendale.

  21. egg_

    Michael Rowland is in Vietnam to cover the Trump Kim summit. I hope Zoe is there too. We need her incisive insights. Her work at the Singapore summit was a credit to her profession.

    Will there be a kids crayon version?

  22. JohnJJJ

    if you want to know what is happening to some of the highly educated gullible women, here is the answer: https://youtu.be/DkSQTMHJK4c
    Serge “you need more nurturing” Benhayon.
    Look for the ones nearing death. The combination of inheritance, no structure and emotional loneliness is a powerful wealth maker for some.

  23. egg_

    NumbNutz hasn’t responded as to whether his Camry Hybrid batteries have been 100% recycled?

  24. Notafan

    I think it reasonable to pay for the things you want to read

    Bolt has to earn a living

    Providing free online content has created expectations that didn’t exist in the print world, if they are going to survive they are going to have to get people to pay.

  25. stackja

    Lendlease first-half profit crashes 96.3%
    Stuart Condie, Australian Associated Press
    32 minutes ago

    Lendlease is looking at offloading its engineering and services unit after the property and infrastructure group’s first-half profit crashed 96.3 per cent to $15.7 million.

    Lendlease, which had already announced a $350 million writedown of the troubled unit, is now considering alternatives after a review deemed it a non-core part of its business.

    “We’re considering a range of options to provide clarity for our people while seeking to optimise securityholder value,” chief executive and managing director Steve McCann said.

    Restructuring the overall business could cost between $450 million and $550 million before tax, Lendlease said on Monday.

    Lendlease announced the hefty provision and review of engineering and services in November, citing issues with Sydney’s NorthConnex tunnel, excessive wet weather and remedial work due to defective design on some projects.

    “The review concluded that it is in the best interests of clients, employees and securityholders to consider alternatives that will allow both the engineering and services business and Lendlease Group to focus on their core competitive advantages,” Lendlease said on Monday.

    Lendlease suggested the unit could be attractive to buyers due to a pipeline of federal and state government work forecast to drive transport engineering growth of about five per cent per annum for the next five years.

    Revenue for the six months to December 31 dipped 11 per cent to $7.68 billion, with the $350 million hit cutting profit from $425.7 million a year earlier.

    Lendlease declared an unfranked interim dividend of 12 cents, 22 cents lower than a year ago.

    Dick Dusseldorp
    From Wikipedia

  26. Old School Conservative

    Pete of Perth
    #2942752, posted on February 25, 2019 at 10:24 am
    This evening, Ultimo will be the site of much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    The Australian is doing its best to support Peterson by giving him an extensive opinion piece today.
    “Life’s never just about happiness – it’s about meaning” is the title.

    Peterson also explains his lecture technique – “Each lecture is devoted… to a topic of equal seriousness and gravity” and how he uses no notes or scaffolding. An interesting technique which also explains some of the criticism against his wandering style.

  27. stackja

    Notafan
    #2942779, posted on February 25, 2019 at 10:47 am
    I think it reasonable to pay for the things you want to read

    Bolt has to earn a living

    Providing free online content has created expectations that didn’t exist in the print world, if they are going to survive they are going to have to get people to pay.

    Content worth paying for seems lacking nowadays.

  28. areff

    Regarding that quality journalism pic, Ronald Reagan put it best:

    “It’s just too bad we can’t have an epidemic of botulism”

  29. egg_

    Dick Dusseldorp

    Marta Dusseldorp of Janet King fame is related IIRC.

  30. Mother Lode

    News Corp is free to run its business anyway it wants, but the effective muffling of two leading critics of the New Establishment remains a great loss.

    Yeah, I used to hang around Tim’s place. Only half my comments ever got published, which was annoying enough, especially as most of them were quite innocuous. So when they decided to make it subscription only I decided to forego it.

    It is funny how the characters of the hosts were reflected on their blogs. Bolta’s was always serious, but he also seemed to have a need to be win the approbation of those out to get him. His indulgence of trolls who derailed threads, seemingly just so he could point to numbers of posts as proving he was open minded, just made it pointless.

    Tim’s site had humour, irreverence, and he had limited patience for trolls. And indulging in humour does not mean ignoring argument. As Wittgenstein said, there is absolutely no reason an important work of philosophy could not be written as a book of jokes.

    But both of those blogs were ruined by their own moderation policies.

  31. max

    Trump backs off on China tariffs. He’s worried about the market tanking.

  32. Mother Lode

    Dick Dusseldorp

    Wasn’t that movie Boogie Nights based on him?

  33. areff

    Agree, Nota, about Bolt needing to earn a living etc. But it’s still a pity, especially as the blogs were introduced as a “front porch” strategy: visit the blogs, get tempted to take a subscription and step inside.

    A couple of days from now you’ll be able to read the piece via “cache” on a google search, so it’s kinda silly to lock the front door when the rear one remains open

  34. egg_

    All those female SJWs on American campuses may now have to register for military service in order to qualify for their student loans.

    Equalidee bites!

  35. stackja

    egg_
    #2942787, posted on February 25, 2019 at 10:51 am
    Dick Dusseldorp

    Marta Dusseldorp of Janet King fame is related IIRC.

    She is the granddaughter of Dutch engineer Dick Dusseldorp, the founder of Lend Lease Corporation.

  36. egg_

    But both of those blogs were ruined by their own moderation policies.

    The looney Left screwed it, no doubt.

  37. dover_beach

    Strange how numbers his ignoring his errors re GISTEMP.

  38. Notafan

    Content worth paying for seems lacking nowadays.

    Then they should go the way of the way of the horse and buggy

  39. Bruce of Newcastle

    These underpowered golf carts?

    Those EVs have a terrible endurance and a price tag around $200 grand for a standard version.
    You’d be hard to drive from Sydney to Canberra in one without it running out of juice…in real world driving conditions.

    Anyway Tesla are close to going bankrupt. Which rather proves my point. Won’t be long now.

    Cyber Sleuth Claims to Uncover 10,000+ Unsold Tesla Model 3s in U.S. Inventory (19 Feb)

    These allegations of inventory stockpiling come just days after Tesla slashed prices on the Model 3 for the second time in 36 days.

    All versions of the Model 3 saw a price reduction of $1100, which lowered the starting price of the vehicle to $42,900. This followed a $2000 price cut on all Tesla vehicles that was announced in early January in order to try and offset the reduction in the United States federal tax credit that Tesla vehicles qualify for.

    He ain’t cutting prices because he wants to.

  40. Notafan

    True Areff but is is stale by then, I don’t care enough to either hunt for a cache or snag a used paper out of the bin either.

  41. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    In Wavertree, there are signs of an unholy alliance taking shape between those on the wrong end of austerity, who associate J e w s with wealth and power, and bourgeois radicals who view Jvev ws through the prism of Pale sti ne.

    Some bloke at a BBQ lunch before Christmas gave us the Joosh worldwide conspiracy of evil wealth and power the other day; someone very well-off themselves with mild tendencies to the left, who had somehow strayed onto some very nasty internet sites that quoted The Elders of Zion. He’d been a muppet in their hands. We strongly had to disagree, publicly, and name the origins of these fabrications of hate, which lie deep in the heart of Western Civilisation as well as in the minds of genocidal maniacs. This horrible cancer is always going to be around with a few stray cells ready to start off again in various times of turmoil. It has bitten deeply into Islam. The left play with it now, like a child with tinder and matches sitting on the freeway, impervious to risk.

  42. Elle

    Tim Blair use to make his blog a fun place to be. It’s all out of his hands now though. He would regularly put out ‘reader challenges’. I donned a burqa for one of the challenges and got a ‘guernsey’. Ventured out to Bankstown to purchase it too. Took my Star of David off first though. 🙂

  43. Bruce in WA

    These underpowered golf carts?

    What a totally BS video. At the 1:29 mark there is an aerial shot that clearly shows the Tesla getting its arse kicked as the Hellcat overtakes it. Cut to the next shot and the Tesla is in front again.

  44. cohenite

    The stunted numbers was throwing crap on the last thread about alarmism being real and that temperatures proved that. The temp records are hopelessly corrupted, apart from the satellite UAH record; even RSS, the other satellite has been adjusted to fit the narrative. Basically the world’s temp records are centered on the US, Australia and England which have most of the world’s temp sites. In each of these countries the past has been made cooler to increase the temp trend; it’s as simple as that and these adjusted temp records are the main evidence to support alarmism and renewables:

    US

    Australia

    England

  45. stackja

    Notafan
    #2942796, posted on February 25, 2019 at 11:01 am
    Content worth paying for seems lacking nowadays.

    Then they should go the way of the way of the horse and buggy

    Telegrams and telegram boys.

  46. Muddy

    Officer Gordy
    #2942762, posted on February 25, 2019 at 10:36 am
    …and non whites above whites.

    Officer Gordy, the approved terms are now POCs (People of Colour/Culture/Consequence), and PONCs (People of No Colour/Culture/Consequence), or (derogatorily) ‘Fades.’ As in “You [email protected] Fades are gunna do just that – fade away! (Even if we have to use acid).”

  47. EvilElvis

    I don’t think that Bolt’s site is any loss….it has become infested with leftist GetUp activists. I gave up reading it over a year ago

    I gave up on both when the formats changed. Nothing tech based is getting more pleasurable to use recently. Intuition has gone out the window, replaced by the constant need to change and update and make things more user friendly. It’s only more user friendly to non-productive types who waste their days on social media and forums.

  48. dover_beach

    Let me count the ways

    notafan, that article is a travesty. It’s quite incredible the utter trash that is published nowadays.

  49. Mother Lode

    I think it reasonable to pay for the things you want to read

    Totally agree.

    I have just decided it is not worth it.

  50. stackja

    Elle
    #2942800, posted on February 25, 2019 at 11:08 am

    Lawyers.

  51. Mark M

    Who remembers the drought vortex?

    2003: Is a mysterious new weather system causing the drought in southern Australia?

    Climatologists are desperately trying to explain the mystery of where southern Australia’s winter rainfall is going.

    They’ve known the rain is being pulled south by an unexplained force.

    Now they’ve devised a revolutionary new theory to explain why.”

    http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s948858.htm

    Only Morrison wasting $3.5 billion will save Australia from future global warming drought vortexs, which was/might here now … or something …

    CSIRO, 2003: “It’s very clear from the consensus of many thousands of scientists that global warming is real, it’s actually under way now, it’s not just something that’s going to happen in the future.”

  52. Elle

    I may resume my subscription with the Tele. I think it’s only about $24 a month. Am missing Akerman’s wisdom and Blair’s wit and insight. Just won’t bother commenting, as the young leftist mods there love to delete comments.

  53. Notafan

    I’m not convinced tha Brendan O’Neil comprehends that islamic state is, historically, normal islam and what he sees in Britian is underdog face but still a good comment- made for free, on Facebook.

    Begum might get some slack for her fifteen year old self but four years and two dead babies later not so much

    Her family are clearly of the black shrouding variety, and, in reality, all she was doing was taking her faith SERIOUSLY,

    Review islam’s history of war making and fun time throat slitting,the mass murdering of the people of Constantinople is a good example, there are countless more.

    So Tommy Robinson is a fascist for slagging off Muslims and agitating against mass immigration but Shamima Begum isn’t a fascist despite joining a supremacist movement that literally slit people’s throats for the crime of being free and having fun? Here’s a hard truth for leftish observers: Shamima Begum is a far worse person than Tommy Robinson.

  54. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Scott Morrison reverses decision to cancel Dawn service near Villers-Bretonneux

    EXCLUSIVE
    Greg Brown
    Journalist
    @gregbrown_TheOz
    Mark Day
    1 minute ago February 25, 2019
    106 Comments

    Scott Morrison has reversed a decision by his government to cancel the Anzac Day dawn service near Villers-Bretonneux on the Western Front, after facing a backlash from descendants of soldiers.

    The Prime Minister said he had spoken to Veterans Affairs Minister Darren Chester this morning and demanded the dawn service in northern France continue.

    The Australian revealed this morning the Department of Veterans Affairs decided to move the service to a “more convenient” time at 10am.

    “That is not going to happen. I have spoken to the minister this morning and the service is going to go ahead at dawn as usual, because that is the right decision,” Mr Morrison told ABC radio.

    From the Oz.

  55. egg_

    Who remembers the drought vortex?

    Is that what the ancient indigenes heard with their ears to the ground?

  56. Memoryvault

    The system is chaotic and I see no evidence to convince me that sufficient knowledge is available or has been accumulated to regard predictions of climate change driven weather as little better than an educated guess.
    An ENSO event still cannot be predicted until mere weeks before it’s onset.

    Sorry Farmer Gez, but climate is both predictable and predicted. It goes in roughly 30 cycles of alternate warming and cooling. This was taught as fact in Science in the early Sixties.

    Primary influences are the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO), and the Atlantic Multi-Decadal Oscillation (AMO – The “Atlantic Conveyor”). We were in a warming phase from the Seventies until the turn of the century, when in theory we entered the next cooling phase.

    This was partly offset by the sun being at the tail end of intense solar maximum, but we have now in a Grand Solar Minimum. The last time the earth had this confluence of solar and ocean cycles was in the late 1600’s. What followed was 150 years of cold, today referred to as The Little Ice Age.

    That lasted for 150 years, until around 1850, when we finally reverted back to the more common thirty year cycles of warming and cooling.

    Fluctuating atmospheric CO2 levels are not a cause of any of this, but rather a consequence. As ocean surface temperatures rise a little, atmospheric CO2 levels rise. As the ocean surface now starts to cool, more CO2 will be dissolved and atmospheric levels will go down again. This is fully in accordance with a corollary of Henry’s Law.

  57. C.L.

    Black African Christian street preacher: “Please don’t take my Bible away.”
    White policeman responding to call from a Muslim: “You should have thought about that before being racist.”

    Shock Video: London Police Arrest Black Christian and Take His Bible for Preaching “Jesus Is On the Way”; Accuse Him of Racism and Islamophobia.

    As I’ve said many times, the UK wasn’t worth saving in the 1940s.

  58. egg_

    Fluctuating atmospheric CO2 levels are not a cause of any of this, but rather a consequence.

    +1

    Ice core data shows Gore’s CO2 graph lags temp change by 800 years!
    Forestation, what?!

  59. stackja

    Slim Cognito
    #2942730, posted on February 25, 2019 at 10:06 am

    Press Council Adjudication
    Herald Sun
    February 25, 2019 12:01am
    The Press Council considered whether its Standards of Practice were breached by

    the publication of a Cartoon by Mark Knight in the Herald Sun on 10 September 2018. The cartoon depicted Ms Serena Williams on a tennis court, jumping in the air with her arms out to her sides and her hands in fists above a broken tennis racquet. A baby’s pacifier was depicted on the ground in front of the broken tennis racquet. In the background, an umpire was shown saying “Can you just let her win?” to a woman standing on the other side of the net. The cartoon referred to an incident during a tennis match between Ms Williams and Ms Naomi Osaka.

    In response to complaints received by the Council, the Council asked the publication to comment on whether the material breached its Standards of Practice which require it to take reasonable steps to avoid causing or contributing materially to substantial offence, distress or prejudice, unless doing so is sufficiently warranted in the public interest (General Principle 6). The Council noted that complaints had raised concerns that the depiction of Ms Williams had features that may cause it to be an offensive and sexist representation of a woman and a prejudicial racial stereotype of African-American people generally, rather than an actual caricature of Ms Williams’ physical features. Specifically, concern was expressed that the cartoon depicted Ms Williams with large lips, a broad flat nose, a wild afro-styled ponytail hairstyle different to that worn by Ms Williams during the match and positioned in an ape-like pose. Ms Williams’ features contrasted with those of Ms Osaka who, while of Japanese-Haitian descent, is depicted as white with blonde hair, lacking any particularly distinguishing or exaggerated features. It was also noted that the cartoon should be considered in the context of the history of caricatures based on race and historical racist depictions of African Americans.

    complaints? By who?

  60. Notafan

    Speaking of BLACK FACE

    Would be nice to remind the ABC they had no problem funding literal black fact ‘comedy’ between at least 2007 and 2014

    no need to go back thirty years to find a ‘gotcha’

    could the ABC explain why it continued to fund overt racism and stereotyping until oops? Jonah from Tonga

  61. C.L.

    Specifically, concern was expressed that the cartoon depicted Ms Williams with large lips, a broad flat nose, a wild afro-styled ponytail hairstyle …

    Yes, it was an exact likeness.

  62. stackja

    C.L.
    #2942819, posted on February 25, 2019 at 11:27 am

    Former NSW minister Ian Macdonald has conviction quashed
    Jodie Stephens, Jennifer Sexton, The Daily Telegraph
    February 25, 2019 9:55am
    Subscriber only

    Macdonald’s lawyer promptly applied for bail and it was granted by Justice Natalie Adams, prompting tears from his wife.

  63. The temp records are hopelessly corrupted, …

    Correct cohenite.
    Then there is the non-issue of whether or not changing CO2 levels are responsible for the red-noise in the temperature variations (FMD).
    And then, efforts to discredit measurements of CO2 levels in the early 1800s. The method was accurate, the results just didn’t fit the narrative.

  64. Mother Lode

    Specifically, concern was expressed that the cartoon depicted Ms Williams with large lips, a broad flat nose, a wild afro-styled ponytail hairstyle …

    She possesses those characteristics. They acknowledge that they know these to be common physical characteristics when they identify them as ‘stereotypical’. What is he supposed to do – avoid traits she has because they are common to people of the same genetic heritage?

    Perhaps he should have drawn her as white – to avoid raaaaacism.

    If those clowns at the Press Council had any soul at all they would get their hackles up at anonymous panty-waisters who expect them to vicariously prosecute people merely for their saying they are offended.

    But they don’t.

    Tells us heaps.

  65. Diogenes

    Macdonald’s lawyer promptly applied for bail and it was granted by Justice Natalie Adams, prompting tears from his wife.

    Why does Justice Natalie Adams’ wife care enough to cry?

  66. stackja

    Diogenes
    #2942827, posted on February 25, 2019 at 11:45 am

    comma-ism?

  67. Unless a service is held at 4:28am it ain’t a real dawn service.
    The VB dawn service was at 5:30am so what was the harm in moving it?

    (Hard core types could hold it at 4:28am GMT + 3, meaning it would be held at 2:28am in France.)

  68. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ms Osaka who, while of Japanese-Haitian descent, is depicted as white with blonde hair

    Knight could sue the Press Council’s arse off for defamation.
    He clearly depicted Ms Osaka with light brown skin, not pink.
    Her face is the same colour as Serena’s face, not the colour of the chair umpire.
    She was given blonde hair because that was how she had her hair during the match.

    Original cartoon.

  69. What clout does the Press Council have?
    Could Mark Knight have just ignored it?
    Does he get any say?

  70. MatrixTransform

    re: golfcarts.

    anybody else done the numbers on transferring energy to the batteries?

    playing loose and fast here with numbers…

    super-charge at something like 500A would require 300sq.mm flexible cables.
    Nanna couldnt lift the plug to the socket
    limited to something like 100kW…it’s still inthe order of like 200A
    internal resistance of the batteries etc ?
    Making guesses but just power ending up as heat in the battery after fast charge… could be 16000W.
    and… degrades the batteries.

    things that make you go Hmmm.

    If all yr doing is going from home to office and top up over night probs no big issues.
    A trip down the Peninsula, meh easy.

    Travel from Melb to Sydney. Hmm
    maybe not the car for a travelling rep.

    The day something goes wrong at a charger or battery??
    there’s a bombe in the boot
    energy let-through = I x I x t

    pull apart yr old mobile phone and stick a screwdriver the ‘dead’ battery.
    wear safety glasses … just sayin’

  71. Geriatric Mayfly

    Macdonald’s lawyer promptly applied for bail and it was granted by Justice Natalie Adams, prompting tears from his wife. Why does Justice Natalie Adams’ wife care enough to cry?

    Like your pedantic nitpicking Diogenes. Very up-to-date too.

  72. MatrixTransform

    the red-noise in the temperature

    BlackJay

  73. min

    Sent Zanetti’s cartoon to Bolt this morning after reading his glum predictions re election . Voters, I think, are not tuned in otherwise they would cotton onto what ALP are doing.

  74. MatrixTransform

    400kg

    so no jetski then?

  75. 132andBush

    And here was I thinking Australia had all the supercilious pricks masquerading as journalists.
    If you can stop your bile rising enough it’s worth watching because it shows how they’re starting to go after him now. I bet this form of questioning and misrepresentation gets a run on Q&A tonight.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPSdj7QqkKU

  76. bespoke

    MatrixTransform
    #2942840, posted on February 25, 2019 at 12:12 pm
    400kg
    so no jetski then?

    Or monty.

  77. areff

    Could Mark Knight have just ignored it?

    The West Australian does. Refuses to be part of the star chamber.

    Press Council’s “public members” — a random sampling of the usual hooked-in nonentities

    https://www.presscouncil.org.au/uploads/52321/ufiles/Bios_-_Public_Members_-LATEST_04_September_2018.pdf

    and the “industry reps”

    https://www.presscouncil.org.au/uploads/52321/ufiles/Bios_IndustryMembers_LATEST_04_September_2018.pdf

    one of whom, Matthew Ricketson, was co-author of the Finkelstein Review, which Gillard set up to “get” unpleasantly critical outlets. One of Finkelstein & Ricketson’s suggestions: editors should be subject to the laws of contempt if, say, they dispute climate change orthodoxy and refuse to recant as ordered by the Press Council.

    Put simply, the contempt provision allows offenders to be incarcerated and held at the pleasure of those who sentence them.

    That this creature is on the Press Council condemns it absolutely.

  78. Newspoll 53/47

    I hate to be one to say I told you so, but, …

    Scottie, the time to buy the minibus is now.

  79. thefrollickingmole

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ive been lucky and only run into 2 people in real life who have outed themselves as J h e w hating weirdoes.

    Weird when it happens though.

  80. zyconoclast

    Macdonald’s lawyer promptly applied for bail and it was granted by Justice Natalie Adams, prompting tears from his wife.

    She must have been enjoying her life with Sir Lunch A Lot in prison.

  81. Notafan

    Victoria’s recycling system has been badly dysfunctional since January 2018, when China stopped taking most of Australia’s recycled material.

    Recyclers that had paid councils to collect waste instead started charging them up to $60 per tonne. The Andrews government gave councils $13.5 million to pay recycling companies to continue taking waste.

    Port Phillip, one of 32 councils that uses SKM, sent about 200 tonnes of recycled waste to landfill this week instead of recycling it. Mayor Dick Gross said the state government had failed to solve the recycling crisis. “We have been completely let down,” he said.

    Pretty obvious that burning it to create electricity is about the only viable long term solution

    Plus ouncil staff can have great fun going on fact finding missions to the long standing facilities in Denmark and just outside Venice.

    Clearly cheaper to dump that ‘recycle’ atm

    old but interesting

  82. ZK2A;

    I don’t understand facebook, but can someone leave a post on that site that John Nicoletti received NO Australian bids on that land, I’d be obliged. I’ve had my dealings with John Nicoletti, thank you.

    Done.

  83. Leigh Lowe

    Slim Cognito

    #2942730, posted on February 25, 2019 at 10:06 am

    Good to see Mark Knight cleared by the Press Council over his Serena Williams cartoon. It was no sure thing given how these things usually go.

    Not quite.
    What would be good to see would be the abolition of the Press Council.
    Anyone who feels wronged by an article or cartoon can litigate.
    Fuck knows why Rupert continues to fund a body which is determined to destroy his papers.

  84. MatrixTransform

    Pretty obvious that burning it to create electricity is about the only viable long term solution

    Ya gotta laugh.

    for years the zeitgeist was Hi Temp incinerator, toxic waste, Not In My Back Yard.

    now we simply have the same old idea pimped as a climate saving wonder project.

  85. egg_

    Scottie, the time to buy the minibus is now.

    Can Custard cut him a deal?

  86. OldOzzie

    areff
    #2942782, posted on February 25, 2019 at 10:48 am

    From the week in pictures. This great:
    https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-20-at-3.58.03-PM.png?resize=600%2C516&ssl=1

    As former Beagles Owner – what a Great Photo

  87. Eyrie

    cohenite, BoN is using the snow cover as a proxy for the zero deg C isotherm. It hasn’t changed in 20 years and is kind of hard to “adjust”. His data shows there was step change in temperature around 1990 +/- a couple of years. This is not consistent with a smoothly varying quantity of Co2 slowly increasing and more likely to do with ocean cycles.
    I’m not a fan of the satellite measurements using microwave emission from oxygen 16. At best they are good to +/- one degree C and, no you can’t improve the accuracy by averaging. The claim of giving these averages to 0.01 deg C is just rubbish. But tht’s the quality of climate science. I can just hear my high school physics teacher if I tried to do that- ” you miserable little worm, you can’t get that accuracy with that raw data!”

  88. Stimpson J. Cat

    Trump backs off on China tariffs. He’s worried about the market tanking.

    No, it’s for the Nork Korean nukes.
    Art of the Deal.

  89. The West Australian does. Refuses to be part of the star chamber.

    Handy to know.
    Another notable conscientious objector who refuses to be part of the Press Council is: The Guardian

  90. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Winston Smith
    #2942854, posted on February 25, 2019 at 12:27 pm

    Thank you, Winston

  91. Roger

    Ive been lucky and only run into 2 people in real life who have outed themselves as J h e w hating weirdoes. Weird when it happens though.

    And if it’s not the J 3 w s running the world it’s the Freemasons.

    My conclusion is that those who subscribe to these theories feel inadequate and derive a sense of importance from possessing such high “knowledge”.

  92. areff

    F*** knows why Rupert continues to fund a body which is determined to destroy his papers.

    News Corp signed on to a support agreement that obliges it to provide financial support for five years. It would cost them to leave, so they haven’t. Mind you, they should

  93. for years the zeitgeist was Hi Temp incinerator …

    When gas is cheap (in different continents to this one), cement kilns (1500C) can fulfill a second role.
    Pyrolyze now!

  94. 1735099

    The Press Council is useless.
    Years ago I made a complaint.
    The issue was the treatment of a colleague of mine in the local rag.
    There was a fatal accident in the pick-up set-down bay in front of my colleague’s large primary school when a father accidentally ran over and killed his small son. My colleague was first responder until the para meds arrived. Then he had to manage traumatised students and staff, as the quite horrific incident happened at peak drop off time in front of the whole school community.
    He did a fantastic job, including organising coverage for classes whose distressed teachers were unable to function, assembling at short notice a team of counsellors, and managing the ghouls from the press, both local and national.
    Because I was a non-teaching administrator I made myself available (as did a couple of other local principals) and supervised a year seven class for the day. I will never forget the nightmare of inconsolable kids, and distressed teachers, and the minute by minute challenge he shouldered of getting the school community through the day.
    When it was all over, a couple of months later, he gradually succumbed to PTSD. He got all the help that was available, but eventually had to be “boarded” out, because he could no longer work.
    On legal advice he put in a claim to the father’s third party insurer, given that he had a family and a mortgage.
    The local rag got wind of the claim, knocked on his door at a ridiculous hour in the morning, and photographed him without permission when he opened his front door. The resulting photo of an unshaven and disheveled looking man was slung on to the front page as was the headline “Principal Sues Grieving Father” which featured next day. Apart from the fact that the story was wrong in fact – the father wasn’t sued – the insurance company was – it put him in jeopardy given his diagnosis.
    I complained in writing – a gesture only, as the damage was done.
    It took six months for the Press Council to respond, saying that the story was “in the public interest”. They ignored my query as to how that was so.
    They are a bunch of useless synchophants in hock to the media that pays their way.

  95. Cactus

    We are suddenly hearing about incinerators – turning waste to power schemes in Sydney and Melbourne. How anyone can think the best solution to waste is burning it is beyond me. We have so much land in this country – lets bury it. But no – we need yet another scheme – to solve a non-existent problem with our waste system. I think the economics of these hinges on the $140/t waste levy put on stuff going to landfill. This is just a straight up tax. The people backing these schemes think if they burn it that $140 goes to $0/t (i.e. there is no tax on burning rubbish). The whole thing falls apart if that simple assumption doesn’t hold. And the poor people of Western Sydney can just breath in all those toxins.

  96. Percy Popinjay

    the history of caricatures based on race and historical racist depictions of African Americans

    Such as this notorious example.

  97. Geriatric Mayfly

    As former Beagles Owner – what a Great Photo

    Had five or six of them areff. Great dogs, except for that nose, which leads them escapades from which you think they will never return. While I would be fishing in the Snowy, the more savvy ones would go off hunting for an hour or so, come back to check me out, have a dip, and then return to scenting and tracking. Lacerated noses and paws would indicate a hard day’s work.

  98. Pretty obvious that burning it to create electricity is about the only viable long term solution

    I have a Gaia friendly solution.

    We know that untended roadside vegetation and state forests will eventually ignite in a massive conflagration.

    Dump the rubbish on roadsides and state forest and wait for nature to sort it out.

    Make the most of the gangrene enforced wildfire.

  99. Chris M

    Distressing to see that, in addition to Tim B going entirely behind the paywall, Bolt is increasingly putting his posts there as well.

    Outline is your friend.

  100. cohenite

    Eyrie

    #2942864, posted on February 25, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    cohenite, BoN is using the snow cover as a proxy for the zero deg C isotherm. It hasn’t changed in 20 years and is kind of hard to “adjust”. His data shows there was step change in temperature around 1990 +/- a couple of years.

    A couple of things. The temp record has, imo, no correlation with CO2 which has shown a monotonic rise during the 20thC. Temp has been all over the place. I don’t know if there was a step change in temp in the early 90’s but there was definitely a major step change in 1976 as David Stockwell shows:

    https://arxiv.org/abs/0907.1650

    This step change does correlate with the Great Pacific Climate Change which is a fancy name for a phase change in PDO.

  101. And the poor people of Western Sydney can just breath in all those toxins.

    If the temperature is high enough, no toxins.
    Not much survives 1800C.

  102. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ive been lucky and only run into 2 people in real life who have outed themselves as J h e w hating weirdoes. Weird when it happens though.

    Jussie Smollett gives gay black J€ws a bad name.
    He’s really not helping things.

  103. Notafan

    Cactus
    landfill has a cost, you have to buy, rent the land transport etc

    If there are no subsidies or tax breaks why shouldn’t burning rubbish be considered

    as for being toxic, apparently not

    Isn’t it adorable that carbon dioxide is not toxic when it suits?

    The smoke from incineration plants consists of 99.9 per cent non-toxic carbon dioxide and water, but is still filtered through dry filters and water. The dry filters are deposited. The sludge from the dirty filter water is used to refill abandoned mines.

    as for toxic

  104. areff

    Mayfly: I like beagles, but American cocker spaniels own the keys to my heart. My lovely Smudge at three. She died in my ex’s care in 2014, at 17 years of age. Still miss her.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205258030636791&set=a.10203095843303459&type=1&theater

  105. Marty

    Outline is your friend.

    Thank you Chris M.

  106. Oppositions don’t win elections, governments lose them*.

    Trumble and Trumble-Lite have already done the damage.
    Call the election now and get it over with.

    * You may quote me.

  107. Percy Popinjay

    Speaking of ridiculous motorised vehicles one of the things I used to love about Blair’s blog was when he would post pieces highlighting our beloved ALPBC’s unrelenting idiocy and staggering incompetence.

    There was a particularly funny piece about a decade ago that involved that cretinous drooling incoherent hippie dirtbag Neil Young and a conveyance known as a Chevy Volt. Somehow, it seemed that the ALPBC had used some sort voice/print recognition device to translate a piece that was clearly spoken/written by someone who’s first language was evidently not English.

    The resulting passage of gibberish was unintentional comedy gold and testament to the ALPBC’s devotion to the purveying of quality j’ism as well as the incredible value taxpayers obtain for the $1.2 billion pa we hand over to those utterly useless irredeemable imbeciles.

    Anybody remember it? I fear that some elements of my recollections above may have been compromised by the passage o’ time.

  108. Percy Popinjay

    To paraphrase, I like beagles, but I’d never marry one.

  109. The OZ No one annoyed China’s leadership more than Julie Bishop
    Almost worth buying the paper, maybe.

  110. C.L.

    Clicked on three different Oscars round-ups.
    Heard of Sam Elliot, Ga-Ga and Bradley Cooper.
    Never heard of any of the others.

  111. C.L.

    Look at the Oscars women in their alleged finery …
    All of them look beaten up, jaded and unhappy.
    Not a glamour in sight.

  112. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sam Elliot

    The Man Who Shot Hitler And Then Bigfoot is a great film with an incredible title.
    He is very good.

  113. Cactus

    Does anyone know what the $140/t waste levy is used for? My understanding (could be wrong) is that it is a tax paid by disposal companies who have to run their own landfills. I.e. the $140/t is all tax – not the sustainable cost of landfill. I would have thought making landfills and then turning them into parks or woodlands etc would be no where near $140/t to operate. Hence my view that the economics of incinerators shouldn’t add up. We have more land in this country than any other per person. Surely landfill is what we should be doing.

    As for incinerators not having harmful emissions, I just don’t find that credible to be honest. Where is the data and information on that. I would have thought particulate matter pollution, dioxins and airborne heavy metal nasties would be around. Am I wrong?

  114. Bruce of Newcastle

    I don’t know if there was a step change in temp in the early 90’s but there was definitely a major step change in 1976 as David Stockwell shows

    Cohenite – The step change in the Rutgers data is because it is NH snow cover (since there isn’t enough land in the SH at the corresponding latitude. The NH snow data is going to be more affected by the AMO than the PDO because of the northern Atlantic sea links to the Arctic, whereas the Pacific has the Bering Strait in the way, plus mountain ranges in Alaska and eastern Siberia.

    The AMO flipped upsidedown and averaged the same way has a similar shift as the snow data.

  115. Mother Lode

    If Morro had a brain he would talk about ‘working with’ states about power.

    The whole thing is just interwoven mythologies – about the baleful influence of CO2, the engineering behind renewables, the economic zero-sum – oh, and the idea that the Greens and their warmie hangers-on are altrusitic.

    Most people are nervous about Climate Change – hardly surprising given the terrifying stories they hear from every direction. But they are just stories.

    Announce plans to work with states to set up some fanciful new technology coal power-stations. They will provide power when renewables are down, prevent blackouts, provide an alternative to the price spikes from other states and even bring money into the state thanks to the interconnectors.

    It is all just so much puff and waffle, but if people are going to choose between myths, they will prefer the ones with the lights on and which saves them moolah.

  116. feelthebern

    There’s no doubt that Lady Gaga is one helluva artist.
    Batshit crazy for sure.
    But still one helluva artist.

  117. thefrollickingmole

    All of them look beaten up, jaded and unhappy.

    Now they cant “Weinstein” their way into roles life has gotten so much more complicated.

  118. zyconoclast

    Pompeo keeps open military option for Venezuela

    Why do I think a secondary reason for a coup is so that the US will then be obliged to take in millions of Venezuelan refugees.

    Good news!!

    The Venezuelan Observatory of Violence (OVV) said in its annual report that Venezuela still had the world’s highest murder rate, 81.4 per 100,000 inhabitants, but it noted that figure was down from 89 in 2017 and 92 the year before. Director Roberto Briceño attributed the drop in part to migration.

    The US murder rate is about 5 per 100,000

  119. zyconoclast

    A Swedish court has convicted a 70-year-old man of “hate speech” for claiming on social media that Somalis are lazy and don’t work.

    In a unanimous decision, the district court of Uddevalla handed down a guilty verdict, ordering the man to pay 60 daily fines of SEK 120, for a total of SEK 7200 (700 euros).

  120. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ann Coulter
    @AnnCoulter
    Venezuela (a country that’s not ours) voted for a socialist, virulently anti-American govt. So naturally, we’re going to pour taxpayer dollars into Venezuela (a country that’s not ours), rather than fund a border wall.

  121. Notafan

    Okay the Swedes are lying and polluting their country with toxic smoke

  122. Notafan

    You are right about the Oscar hard-faced harridans CL

    I never forget Queen Cate complaining about the photographer filming her frock

    You wouldn’t do that to a man!

    Ok next time wear a tux, luv.

    My girl and her cousin-in-law to be in a happy snap at the cousin’s engagement party looked far more beautiful, glowing and smiling, arm in arm with their fiancees.

  123. Fat Tony

    Percy Popinjay
    #2942877, posted on February 25, 2019 at 12:53 pm
    the history of caricatures based on race and historical racist depictions of African Americans

    Such as this notorious example.

    Wasn’t the shot gorilla called Harambe – with an inference to the stimulus bill being “so good” it must have been written by an ape?
    I don’t think it was a reference to African Americans & Obambi in particular.

  124. Mother Lode

    Wasn’t the shot gorilla called Harambe

    Careful.

    I think that is a bit of a raw point for some.

    Je suis Harambe.

  125. Mother Lode

    The solution is really simple. J ews, muslims, blacks, browns, Asians…deport them all.

    Is this birdstrike?

  126. Tator

    As for underpowered golf carts go. Here is a cost analysis on the extra infrastructure required to support a 100% conversion to electric cars. Note it doesn’t include the actual costs of the vehicles themselves but purely the extra generation capacity and grid enhancements required.

  127. thefrollickingmole

    Mother Lode

    Seems like it…

  128. Tator

    link
    finally remembered how to do it bwaaaahahahahahahahahahaha

  129. Fat Tony

    Mother Lode
    #2942923, posted on February 25, 2019 at 1:57 pm
    The solution is really simple. J ews, muslims, blacks, browns, Asians…deport them all.

    Is this birdstrike?

    My thoughts exactly on reading it.

  130. Stimpson J. Cat

    The solution is really simple. J ews, muslims, blacks, browns, Asians…deport them all.

    What about the Irish?
    And Kiwis?
    And Italians.
    Don’t be racist.

  131. feelthebern

    Ian Macdonald is a grub.
    But how can a judge screw up these points of law.
    Considering their experience & what they are paid, shouldn’t they err on the side of caution when it comes to points of law?
    FFS.
    The whole thing is a rort.

  132. feelthebern

    Odd that Peterson would agree to go on a panel show like Q&A.
    One one of his Joe Rogan chats, he said would would never do panels on TV ever again.

  133. Stimpson J. Cat

    One one of his Joe Rogan chats, he said would would never do panels on TV ever again.

    Got to keep the media profile up or you can’t sell the books Bro!
    Or the rugs!

  134. Gab

    The Oscars are still on? I thought the Left hated the idea of competition and that everyone should just get a Participation Certificate, no?

  135. pete m

    Numbers:

    The local rag got wind of the claim, knocked on his door at a ridiculous hour in the morning, and photographed him without permission when he opened his front door. The resulting photo of an unshaven and disheveled (sic) looking man was slung on to the front page as was the headline “Principal Sues Grieving Father” which featured next day. Apart from the fact that the story was wrong in fact – the father wasn’t sued – the insurance company was – it put him in jeopardy given his diagnosis.
    I complained in writing – a gesture only, as the damage was done.

    Some points:

    – no doubt it was harrowing for all involved, especially the principal.
    – the alleged negligent driver is the party “sued”, or claimed against. The CTP insurer handles the claim, and makes any payout. If Court action is started, the negligent driver is named as first defendant, and the CTP insurer is second defendant. Any judgment is issued in the name of the second defendant only. The only time the negligent driver is not sued / named is if they are deceased.
    – the governing legislation actually specifies the driver and CTP insurer be named as joint defendants but this is ignored in practise as Court forms and pleadings are easier if they are separated and named differently.
    – it would have been in the public interest to know – local papers are frequently canvasing civil court filings and reproducing the claims in their papers. Injury claims are often used in this way, sometimes even on the front page like happened to 1 of my clients at the time, sadly. It caused more harm than any public interest warranted but we could do nothing to stop them. it is a judgment call for the editor.

    In your case it seems to be piling misery on tragedy.

  136. Mother Lode

    Or the rugs!

    You saying Peterson is a rugged individual?

    Looks like his natural hair to me – even with the slightly dishevelled, “scratchin’ my brain, thinkin'” academic thing going on.

  137. Stimpson J. Cat

    What about the turks and greeks?

    Why do I have to remember all the different ethnics all the time?
    Do your part Catallaxy!
    Vote for who you want off the island!

  138. pete m

    the only chick to get glamour right on Oscars:

    nice

    Emilia Clarke

  139. Confused Old Misfit

    We Must Defend Free Thought
    written by Claire Lehmann

  140. Vote for who you want off the island!

    Q. Are you or have you ever been a union member?

    If yes, export them.

  141. Snoopy

    I have a great idea for a reality television show. Working title “Stuck in an Elevator”.

    Ep 1: Stimpy with Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro.

    Ep 2: Percy Popinjay with Tony Jones and Leigh Sales.

    Ep 3: JC with Paul Krugman and John Kwiggin.

    Etc

  142. Tom

    One of Birdy’s favourites is to launch an attack on the Cat when Doomlord is out of the country. So predictable, Birdy.

  143. Diogenes

    it would have been in the public interest to know – local papers are frequently canvasing civil court filings and reproducing the claims in their papers

    Yes, but headlines and tone and context matters. Eg Lets assume Tony AbbottSatan666 personally developed a 100% effective, no side effect treatment for all cancers, that cost $5 for a once of dose. How will it be reported ?
    “Abbott should be nominated for Nobel Science Prize” or “Abbott wants to sack nurses and close hospital wards”

  144. Stimpson J. Cat

    Q. Are you or have you ever been a union member?

    If yes, export them.

    Bye Gunner!!!

  145. cohenite

    The AMO flipped upsidedown and averaged the same way has a similar shift as the snow data.

    Have you done a temperature correlation with the AMO/ snow indices?

  146. Stimpson J. Cat

    The Irish are native to the UK idiot.

    No they aren’t.
    They come from the fairy Fae Land of the Magical King of the Potato People.

  147. Entropy

    The kwiggster expounds while pumping his arm like a metronome. It could be dangerous in the confined space of a lift.

  148. Ruthm

    I don’t read numbers comments but do carefully read, with varying degrees of comphrehension, BofN’s patient replies. I wonder if BofN and Arky could get together and do some YouTube viddeos?

  149. thefrollickingmole

    They come from the fairy Fae Land of the Magical King of the Potato People.

    Potatoes you say?

  150. Stimpson J. Cat

    Let’s go back to this “simple” expulsion of millions of people.
    Do you have any diagrams of your plan?
    A PowerPoint presentation maybe?
    This is serious business Officer Gordy.

  151. thefrollickingmole

    Stimpson J. Cat

    Im sure he has a solution.
    Possibly even a final one.

  152. Mother Lode

    Do you have any diagrams of your plan?

    He has a Venn diagram.

    Inside a circle it says ‘My Tribe’. Outside the circle it says ‘Tribalists’.

  153. ruthm;

    I don’t read numbers comments but do carefully read, with varying degrees of comprehension, BofN’s patient replies. I wonder if BofN and Arky could get together and do some YouTube viddeos?

    Good idea.

  154. Snoopy

    TheirABC outraged by threat of Adani lawfare.

    The (Law Services Commission) said it would then decide what action might be taken, after the ABC revealed the draft strategy to pressure government decisionmakers, silence critics and bankrupt unsuccessful court opponents.

  155. Stimpson J. Cat

    There is nothing wrong with Britain expelling those it considers undesirable, if that is what it’s people decide.
    All countries do this to varying degrees.
    But this will never happen.
    Britain can’t even expel itself from the EU.

  156. Stimpson J. Cat

    There is nothing wrong with Britain exp$lling those it considers undesirable, if that is what it’s people decide.
    All countries do this to varying degrees.
    But this will never happen.
    Britain can’t even expel itself from the EU.

  157. Their ABC does not like its employees being sued out of existence.
    I pray it becomes the trendy thing to do to sh1tty journalists.

  158. Sir Stimpson.
    Ostraya is populated with the descendants of British rejects, followed by the gold hunters and then in turn the rejects from every other nation on Earth.

  159. struth

    You know, in my years on the road, I have held people’s skulls onto their heads, seen mates killed before my eyes , (two, avoiding a woman who turned in front of them with a car load of kids), looked for peoples fingers, seen ghoulish sights as the first on site at accidents, (including dead kids), like a bloody war zone, and knowing the silence is not a good thing, seen a bloke trampled from cattle from a stock crate on it’s side , tackled drug crazed idiots the Ambos couldn’t control and held them down etc etc.
    Not once did it cross my mind to sue anyone.

  160. Stimpson J. Cat

    Not once did it cross my mind to sue anyone.

    Musos are not rocket scientists.
    This is a good thing.
    Imagine a rocket designed by Elton John…..

  161. Lysander

    Imagine a rocket designed by Elton John…..

    You certainly wouldn’t your partner to “pack your bags pre-flight”

  162. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ostraya is populated with the descendants of British rejects, followed by the gold hunters and then in turn the rejects from every other nation on Earth.

    Exactly.
    They have a history of it.
    It is how we came to be.

  163. struth

    Imagine a rocket designed by Elton John…..

    he knows a fair bit about space.

    Mars ain’t the kind of place to raise a kid, and he knows it because it’s his job five days a week.
    Get’s his missus to pack his bags, so a bit misogynistic these days.

    I was wondering if the rolling Stones still sing “brown sugar”

  164. DrBeauGan

    thefrollickingmole
    #2942773, posted on February 25, 2019 at 10:45 am
    Link to the Pom anti se m e t i s m piece.

    Who’s surprised? They are lefties. Anti-Semitism comes naturally to losers.

  165. Stimpson J. Cat

    Officer Down, Copy Dispatch,
    Officer Down Code Three!!!!

  166. calli

    Dergs?

    A carrot tail and a liquorice nose, and a bundle of naughtyness in the middle.

  167. calli

    Yikes! I missed it! Who got fried?

  168. Notafan

    Not very exciting Calli

    just another birdy flying into a wind thingy

  169. DrBeauGan

    Bird, under the name of officer gordy, Calli. I’m glad the Doomlord got him early.

  170. Arky

    BofN and Arky could get together and do some YouTube viddeos?

    ..
    I would be happy to.

  171. I repeat myself but:

    The state of Viktoristan is a high temperature incinerator (thanks to the gangreens).

    Dump your rubbish in Viktoristan and wait until the incinerator fires up.

  172. DrBeauGan

    I’m also glad to see the back, or possibly soles, of Harken. Although he did serve to show clearly the intellectual poverty of the warmenists. He had one argument, which amounted to: “Join the Borg.” There was nothing else.

  173. calli

    Thanks guys. I was too busy being besotted by pics of Westies to scroll. 🐶

    Look at the Oscars women in their alleged finery …
    All of them look beaten up, jaded and unhappy.
    Not a glamour in sight.

    They had the hide to compare Gaga to Hepburn. It only deepened the contrast.

    All except Kiki Whatever had bags under their eyes. The gap between the actrines and Mirren appears to be narrowing. Either she is growing younger (you go, Old Girl!), or young women are becoming haggard early.

    What on earth is going on here?

  174. Confused Old Misfit

    What on earth is going on here?

    Drug use?

  175. Notafan

    Frozen face syndrome

    They probably all use botox

  176. DrBeauGan

    struth
    #2943001, posted on February 25, 2019 at 3:41 pm
    Fharken gone as well?

    He did promise, Struth. For what that’s worth.

  177. calli

    Old Hollywood used to drink and drug. A quick peruse of Niven’s books will fill you in.

    They all look so tired. Even the young ones. As CL says, the glamour is missing.

    Mr. De Mille would not be pleased.

  178. DrBeauGan

    Old Hollywood used to drink and drug. A quick peruse of Niven’s books will fill you in.

    They all look so tired. Even the young ones. As CL says, the glamour is missing.

    Mr. De Mille would not be pleased.

    My suspicion is that they’ve gone vegan, Calli. You need good red meat if you’re going to survive the ravages of drink and drugs.

  179. stackja

    calli – Hollywood lost the plot when John Wayne died. Clint tried, but a lone presence.

  180. Notafan

    Old Hollywood used to drink and drug.

    Not all of them though

  181. Mother Lode

    They all look so tired. Even the young ones. As CL says, the glamour is missing.

    They used to enjoy looking glamorous and they knew their audiences wanted to see it.

    Now they look at their absurd wealth and feel they must publicly atone for it.

    I think actors of old also felt more connection with their fans. A lot of them worked their way up from similar origins.

    Modern actors seem to think their fans benightedly ignorant rubes to be told what to do.

  182. Mother Lode

    feel they must publicly atone for it

    I should perhaps clarify that they have absolutely no doubt that they deserve all the money they get. But that is private opinion, and the pact with the press and the media is that they should talk about SJW issues.

  183. Bruce of Newcastle

    Have you done a temperature correlation with the AMO/ snow indices?

    Cohenite – I did AMO and Arctic sea ice once. Here. The pre-1979 data would fit also, but I don’t know where to get it.

    BofN and Arky could get together and do some YouTube viddeos?

    I did a corporate video once. Not good. That was nearly 30 years ago and I still shudder.

  184. Elle

    Birdy? Was he here around 1pm? I was shat on today while sitting under a tree eating my lunch in Hyde Park. What a coincidence.

  185. Pedro the Ignorant

    I couldn’t give a rat’s ring about the Oscars, but after last year’s catastrophe, I was wondering if all the Oscars went to PoC , alphabet people, s$x perverts and other assorted Hollywood weirdos?

    Did The Donald get bagged by every category winner to thunderous applause?

    Mind boggling clown show.

  186. candy

    The Oscar lasses are socialists and believe climate change kill the planet in 12 years. Dressing for the part despite their wealth. Strange they did not wear Cortez white.

  187. Confused Old Misfit

    Old Hollywood used to drink and drug.

    I’ve read Niven. One of my favourite performers.
    Different drugs these days.
    Different cocktails and frequency of use.
    I spent a large portion of my life in the “legitimate” theatre milieu, though not the last two decades.
    I may be out of touch.

  188. Confused Old Misfit

    Aussie PM Offers $2 Billion Burnt Offering to the Climate Change Movement

    Why? Oh why do these idiots do these things and why, oh why do we let them keep on doing it!
    Now I ahve to send another scathing reprimand to local politicians.

  189. calli

    Thanks, Snoopy.

    That about sums it up.

    They’re done.

  190. Pedro the Ignorant

    Not everyone has given up on glamour at the Oscars.

    Godalmighty. We are doomed.

  191. thefrollickingmole

    Reminder: Add Snoopy to the list of “Dont click on his links” list….

  192. Old School Conservative

    feelthebern
    #2942933, posted on February 25, 2019 at 2:11 pm
    Odd that Peterson would agree to go on a panel show like Q&A.

    Odd that Q&A would not give sole billing to Peterson as they did for David Suzuki.

    Oh wait… Suzuki was on the same warmist page as the ABC.

  193. Atoms for Peace

    I wonder if they have drug sniffer dogs at the Oscars? The explosive sniffing dogs would be busy enough with some of the films destined to bomb.

  194. calli

    Further to nonentity weirdman in the velvet dress, I wonder if 24/7 “activism” has anything to do with it?

  195. thefrollickingmole

    You wanted virtue signaling at the Oscars??

    Spike Lee celebrated winning his first non-honorary Oscar in his long career as a film-maker with an explicitly political speech, during which he called on the audience to “regain our humanity” at the next US election.

    “Before the world tonight, I give praise to my ancestors who built our country, along with the genocide of our native people,” Lee said. “When we regain our humanity it will be a powerful moment … The 2020 election is around the corner – let’s all mobilise and be on the right side of history. Make the moral choice between love versus hate.”

    Lee began his speech by saying: “For 400 years, our ancestors were stolen from Africa and brought to Virginia and enslaved. They worked the land from ‘can’t see’ in the morning to ‘can’t see’ at night. My grandmother – who lived 100 years young, a college graduate even though her mother was a slave – my grandmother, who saved 50 years’ of Social Security checks to put me through college. She called me Spiky-poo …” Lee said that his grandmother had put him through film school.

    I wonder if he “Loves” the Donald??

  196. MatrixTransform

    Phht.
    my people were slaves too … they just happen to have been Irish so nobody mentions them

  197. MatrixTransform

    I’m still a serf

  198. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cohenite – No I meant the raw satellite sea ice area data that was used for that IPCC AR1 graph that I linked. Trying to paste separate datasets together, or measure off a photocopy graph, isn’t great for consistency. I won’t bother trying to find it, life is too short.

  199. cohenite

    spiky-poo

    doesn’t get it: with cheap power and mechanisation you don’t need slaves. Trump advocates cheap power and mechanisation.

    Incidentally what were the viewing stats for the stinking Oscars.

  200. Notafan

    who saved 50 years’ of Social Security checks

    Thanks American Taxpayers

    good grief

    When will these turkeys realise that for anyone but the nobility (and the emerging middle class in the last couple of hundred years) had pretty darn awful lives?

    In Russia they were called serfs but it was slavery, and in many other places where people were landless agricultural workers, not much better.

    Even in Scandinavia working people were treated like rubbish,why so many emigrated to the US, and it was that mass exodus that forced the King of Sweden to improve life for the hoi polloi.

    You look at the history of every country and you will find injustice and indignity.

    As for slavery sold by blacks to Arabs and if you were comparatively lucky you were sold to Americans

    Sold into North Africa or the ME, average live expectancy six years and there were no grandchildren to go on and on and on and on about your life of tragedy.

  201. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “For 400 years, our ancestors were stolen from Africa and brought to Virginia and enslaved

    I suppose it’s a waste of time pointing out that not a single slave would have left Africa without the enthusiastic co operation of their fellow Africans?

  202. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The future children of these men were unavailable for comment

    Well said.

  203. Stimpson J. Cat

    my people were slaves too … they just happen to have been Irish so nobody mentions them

    Look at least the Irish are mostly considered White now.
    Show some gratitude.

  204. Farmer Gez

    Further to nonentity weirdman in the velvet dress, I wonder if 24/7 “activism” has anything to do with it?

    And someone here wondered where Hark was. Exhibit A.

  205. calli

    🤣

    Yep. It’s him alright. Silly of me not to recognise him.

  206. stackja

    1940 in film
    From Wikipedia

    13th Academy Awards
    Best Picture: Rebecca – David O. Selznick, United Artists
    Best Director: John Ford – The Grapes of Wrath
    Best Actor: James Stewart – The Philadelphia Story
    Best Actress: Ginger Rogers – Kitty Foyle
    Best Supporting Actor: Walter Brennan – The Westerner
    Best Supporting Actress: Jane Darwell – The Grapes of Wrath

  207. calli

    But…but…but…

    Slave!

    *sob*

  208. zyconoclast

    Julie Bishop denies any link between donation from elderly Chinese mogul and advisor’s appointment

    A $50,000 donation was made to the WA Liberal Party by an elderly Chinese industrialist just days before one of his Australian business associates was appointed to a powerful diplomatic advisory board by former foreign minister Julie Bishop.

  209. Snoopy

    A $50,000 donation was made to the WA Liberal Party by an elderly Chinese industrialist just days before one of his Australian business associates was appointed to a powerful diplomatic advisory board by former foreign minister Julie Bishop.

    What’s your point, Zyco? Do you now want coincidence to be criminalised?

  210. Atoms for Peace

    Let’s also not forget ZK2A which religion was very active in the slave trade in Africa.

  211. DrBeauGan

    A $50,000 donation was made to the WA Liberal Party by an elderly Chinese industrialist just days before one of his Australian business associates was appointed to a powerful diplomatic advisory board by former foreign minister Julie Bishop.

    We should be glad they had the sense to get the money first.

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