Wednesday Forum: February 27, 2019

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  1. Infidel Tiger

    With Bishop, Pyne, Laundy, O’Dwyer, Banks et al departing the Liberal Party, I am suddenly feeling much better about the future of that party.

  2. dopey

    Something about younger lawyers these days. They look so dumb you wonder how they made it to university.

  3. Arky

    Imagine being a school principal.
    You have maybe 500 odd students. Some of them very odd. Remember that every inmate of the high security wing went to school at some point.
    And maybe 60 staff, most of whom you inheireited from the succession of regimes before you, and which include, inevitable, at least a couple of dodgy ones.
    Then there are the parents, which run the gamut from abusive through neglectful to the utter lunatic micro- managers who get appointed to the school board.
    Good luck with all that.

  4. 2dogs

    Peterson is 10o% right about parasitic, sanctimonious and smug virtue signallers

    His take on traditional owner acknowledgements last night was brilliant.

  5. Black Ball

    A true libertarian would appreciate that speaking of the rights of aboriginal society being infringed misses the point that the new society offers infinitely more rights and opportunities.

    Which we are seeing the fruits of. But blinded by hate and the need for fast money, it’s all in vain.

  6. DrBeauGan

    I will say it again, a Western education coupled with determination that will enable success is key. Not fucking mythical ties to land or country, we all have that in Australia. Go and be enterprising.

    Rant over.

    Good rant, BB, but not long enough. 😁

  7. calli

    Prissy Chryme quitting politics?

    The Black Hand must have signed.

  8. Arky

    the Principal was an officer in the Australian Army and fought the Japs in New Guinea during the second world war. I found this out years later.

    ..
    One of the least capable teachers I had at school was ex- Sandhurst.
    I liked him, but he had zero classroom control.
    I don’t think he made the transition to civilian life.

  9. Boambee John

    Black Ball
    #2947804, posted on March 1, 2019 at 7:54 pm

    Indeed, until this happens, there will be no real change.

    It is quite possible to be educated, live a modern lifestyle, and still retain a connection with ancestral lands. And a lot more satisfactory than the current disaster.

  10. johanna

    BTW, I love that none of the band were wearing blue jeans.

    I have never owned or worn them, and no man over forty should wear them unless he is Steve McQueen or a genuine person who works with his/her hands.

    White jeans and cords were my male attractors, and they worked. 🙂

  11. Dr Faustus

    HB Calli.
    [not normally given to personal comments, but whatever…]

  12. Black Ball

    Maybe more Aboriginal people could think of baseball. Bryce Harper defected to hated Phillies from Nationals to the tune of a 13 year, 330 million dollar contract. US dollars of course.

  13. 1735099

    It was widely known back then (after the fact) that it was to be kept quiet until it was too late to do anything about it.

    Total and complete fabrication. You keep making an assertion which anyone who lived in Toowoomba and experienced the almost daily media discussion of the project knows to be fantasy. Perhaps the fact that you supported the now well and truly discredited “no” case is a convenient rationalisation.
    How on earth can a secret squirrel plan be known “after the fact”?

    You realise that when ever we engineers talk about fuckwits we have had to work with, school teachers come up as the worst

    Taught yourself to read, did you, old mate?

  14. Black Ball

    Boambee John, I like to think I am educated but coming to this site is an educational experience. The history that is discussed, economic readings are very beneficial for me. Never see it among mainstream sites.

  15. 1735099

    Imagine being a school principal.

    It could be a tough gig.
    I did it for 18 years across five schools, two of which I opened and one I closed.
    The best part of opening a new school was the freedom to start with a blank sheet and the fact that there was no history.
    It’s much tougher now than it used to be, mainly because the politicians and lawyers get involved at the drop of a hat. The kids haven’t changed. They make it worthwhile.
    Education should be run by teachers.

  16. johanna

    Found it! Status Quo live at Wembley, 2013.

    Magnificent.

  17. Snoopy

    The original people before European settlement operated on a tribal basis (not a “first nation”) and the tribe had some concept of tribal land, but not a concept of individual ownership.

    As I understand it, the Mabo case himged on physically identified parcels of land distributed according to patrilineal descent. But the HC, in an effort to right the wrongs of the past as they saw it, fucked it up by extending the concept of inalienable patrineal ownership in a couple of islands in the Torres Strait to encompass community ownership across the whole country.

    Who could forsee that being a fuckup?

  18. I can’t believe someone thinks paleolithic hunter gatherer would be better than farm labourer.

    Maybe if you were an alpha male, just maybe.

    I don’t know why people assume farm labourers was the worst.

    Farming might be labour intensive during the growing season but long winter nights would have been a little easier.

    Not to mention far greater certainty of being fed on a daily basis.

  19. Snoopy

    The best part of opening a new school was the freedom to start with a blank sheet and the fact that there was no history.

    Just like Kampuchea. But with less skulls.

  20. Black Ball

    Numbers I am interested in your education career. You say that the department should be run by teachers. Which it is, principals were once teachers in at least one subject. What is your opinion on the possibility of a student determined curriculum that Victoria are thinking of?

  21. Nick

    was the freedom to start with a blank sheet and the fact that there was no history.

    You white colonist you. Lol

  22. Empire 5:5

    Just like Kampuchea. But with less skulls.

    Gold. Brutally on point.

  23. Arky

    One of the strangest things I found about teachers was their inability to efficiently sort student reports.
    Imagine you have a stack of printed student reports, straight from the printer. And you have 25 student folders with each student’s name on it, that these reports have to be inserted into, in a certain order: maths report, english report, science report, etc, etc, until at the end is the home eco report sheet.
    So these people sit around the staffroom with the buge pile from the printer, and the pile of folders, and they take one sheet from the pile, and then shuffle through the pile of folders and find the right one to put it in, then they take another sheet from the report pile…
    I watch them do this and ask if they are retarded. It takes them hours.
    I take my folders and reports to an empty clasroom.
    I take two minutes to push a group of tables together.
    Then I put the folders out, all twenty five of them, in alphabetic order around the tables.
    I walk around the tables laying the reports onto the correct folders.
    Then I arrange each folder’s contents in order.
    Done in half an hour.
    Then I go back to the staffroom and have a coffee and watch the thickies wrestle with their piles of folders.

  24. Black Ball

    Snoopy this is what I had doubts about which I asked JC for clarification. Islands of course are clearly defined. Yet look at the ‘Aboriginal map’ and it’s indistinct as to the boundaries which are still disputed. I can’t see how the Mabo decision would work on mainland Australia with squabbles still in occurrence.

  25. Fat Tony

    1735099
    #2947828, posted on March 1, 2019 at 8:11 pm
    Perhaps the fact that you supported the now well and truly discredited “no” case is a convenient rationalisation.

    Numbers – I can see why everyone here regards you as a complete and utter fuckwit.
    You live in some parallel universe. Fuck off.

  26. Arky

    But the really remarkable thing is this: despite twenty years of watching me finish sorting reports up to four times per year in a tiny fraction of the time it takes them, every report day they do the same thing.

  27. Boambee John

    Black Ball at 2017

    Anyone who does not learn something here is either irredeemably stupid or has a completely closed mind.

  28. JC

    Compare life spans and the social dynamics. Aboriginal society had become since the land bridges were cut-off 11000 years previously, stultified and regressive.

    That’s true, but only for very few exceptions, life was also pretty miserable for the European farm laborer at the time of Cook’s landing.

    I’m not romanticizing life of hunter gatherers, Cronkite. Their existence, save for a few bushmen in southern Africa is for the history books. That’s never coming back although I wish you’d go walkabout at times. Permanently.

    A true libertarian would appreciate that speaking of the rights of aboriginal society being infringed misses the point that the new society offers infinitely more rights and opportunities.

    Again, you miss the point. I’ve already said a few times now the Mabo case was very difficult being applied to the mainland because the islanders and the mainlanders were different people with quite different ways of living.

    Also, it’s not mutually exclusive to argue Mabo was a good decision for the islanders and modern Australia should be embraced by aboriginals.

    How do you argue for minority rights though for those who want self determination ….. Catalonia , Corsica , Sardinia etc? My mother’s family formed part of the 45,000 Italians ethically cleansed from Nice in the 1860s. She used to talk about how the family home was stolen by the French 🙂

  29. dover_beach

    I listened to a very interesting podcast today that discussed a report on clergy sex abuse. It detailed that the number of homosexual priestx in the Church rose from about 2%, the same as the general population in 1950, to 16% by the 1980s. This correlated almost perfectly with the rise in sexual abuse. He noted that if the proportion of homosexual clergy remained at that of the general population 85% less children, just under 13000, would have been sexually abused in the US. Staggering figures.

    I’ll link the podcast and report tomorrow.

  30. Black Ball

    And now Gladiator will be on. A fine movie. Can anyone here take Shorten down in such heroic deeds? Duplicitous wanker he is.

  31. C.L.

    IT, re Senator Herron …
    He took parliamentary leave to go to Rwanda to serve in a medical team after the massacres.
    He had ten children (one Down Syndrome) – a lot of family to leave behind in your upper middle age. This service was extremely confronting and he carried the scars. Entirely voluntary.

    He was a Knight Commander of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem and a Papal Knight of St Gregory. Which is not only a dazzling and rare combination but amazingly cool. His wife was one of Queensland’s top beauties in their younger days.

  32. Black Ball

    Correct Boambee John.

  33. min

    Classic Jordan Peterson on Wednesday. Night when he described the feminists on Q&A whining ( he used this word a lot) about telling her son he would have to be a provider as in males are the provider .
    Well you better teach him Rule no 1 to be responsible for yourself, he said ,and learn to be a provider for if you cannot provide for yourself who will? No guarantee he will be in a relationship but he will still have to provide for himself . Cheers from audience.
    Got to say that was a lesson I gave to all young women . You do not know what you future will be ,so be prepared to look after yourself.

  34. JC

    Fan

    You worked all day with a pick and shovel and if the weather went bad or the harvest was diseased you could starve… see the Irish famine.

    Also, if life was great on the land people wouldn’t have moved in droves from the countryside to the towns and cities with the advent of the Industrial Revolution.

  35. Armadillo

    I had some great school principals and teachers.

    The vast majority were brothers and nuns.

  36. JC

    As I understand it, the Mabo case himged on physically identified parcels of land distributed according to patrilineal descent. But the HC, in an effort to right the wrongs of the past as they saw it, fucked it up by extending the concept of inalienable patrineal ownership in a couple of islands in the Torres Strait to encompass community ownership across the whole country.

    Who could forsee that being a fuckup?

    Yep, communal rights are communist “rights”. That is, no rights.

  37. C.L.

    Status Quo live at Wembley, 2013.

    I’ve always respected the Quo.
    Love Down Down; + that break in Roll Over Lay Down!

  38. min

    Shorten more like Commodus than Marcus Aurelius , cannot remember how many years Marcus was an Emperor . 20 something maybe, only that he said under his rule there had only been 4 years when he had not been defending Roman Empire.

  39. 1735099

    You live in some parallel universe. Fuck off.

    You’re the one in the parallel universe, obviously unable to back your assertion of secret squirrel recycling business, so you resort to abuse. I’ve taught a few kids who did that, but they grew out of it.

  40. JC

    I’ve always respected the Quo.
    Love Down Down; + that break in Roll Over Lay Down!

    That also did an ad for Coles that ran here for a time with Down Down…. down as in prices going down.

    Ruined the song.

  41. Atoms for Peace

    Numbers is caught in a transporter beam and hasn’t regained phase with the rest of the universe.

  42. Oh come on

    Jesse Lee Peterson’s YouTube channel is hilarious. The clips of callers who ring in to have it out with him are examples of some of the best triggering ever.

  43. calli

    I love Gladiator, if only for the perfect musical score. It’s pretty much the last of the fine Hollywood “blockbusters”.

    A ripping yarn.

  44. Arky

    Now, imagine you are a teacher at a bit of a rough school.
    Enrolments are dropping, threatening your job.
    It is parent teacher night. Most of the parents who show up for parent teacher night are the good ones, some of whom are thinking of voting with their feet and pulling their kids out.
    It is half an hour before first interview, you are standing around with colleagues. You notice that, as it is the end of term, all the seats you have pulled around your table for the meetings are sticky, some have cocks drawn on them and all have chewing gum stuck under the seat.
    Do you:
    a) Take five minutes to clean up the sticky finger marks and cocks, and swap out the ones that have deeply engraved cocks that can’t be cleaned off with a damp rag with ones that can be made good. Or…
    b) Joke with your colleagues that the school should change it’s logo to a rampant cock?

  45. 1735099

    You say that the department should be run by teachers. Which it is, principals were once teachers in at least one subject.

    The department (in Queensland at least) is run by career public servants, not teachers.
    Generally, schools are run by teachers. Most principals are teachers, but there are occasional exceptions in the private sector.
    Unfortunately, there is a trend for principals to be managers, rather than leaders. A good principal will delegate the management of the institution of the school to an administrator, and concentrate on leadership of teaching and learning, but given the burden of non-core duties heaped on them, that is becoming increasingly difficult.

    What is your opinion on the possibility of a student determined curriculum that Victoria are thinking of?

    To be honest, I know nothing about it. My career was mostly spent with students with multiple impairments. For them, the curriculum was very much about skills for independence to help them achieve the best possible quality of life.

  46. Snoopy

    I wish I could find the reference, but I recall reading a study undertaken years ago when there were still Aborigines living a traditional lifestyle of in Kakadu? Arnhem Land? that found they only needed to work for four hours a day to get all the needed to live.

    Up at dawn, work four hours, cook a meal, sleep during the hot afternoon when there’s no mosquitos, build a fire, eat leftovers, spend most of the night yarning and playing, sleep fitfully for a few hours before dawn. Repeat.

  47. JC

    calli
    #2947866, posted on March 1, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    I love Gladiator, if only for the perfect musical score. It’s pretty much the last of the fine Hollywood “blockbusters”.

    A ripping yarn.

    Crowe rarely spoke in it though.

    I read a funny comment about Ryan Gossling the other day. Gossling should get an academy for the countless ways he does silent sullen.

  48. Cassie of Sydney

    “To be honest, I know nothing about it. My career was mostly spent with students with multiple impairments.”

    Pity those children. I am sure they are still suffering from having you around them.

  49. Top Ender

    Would it have been better toiling on English land as a farm laborer or living as a hunter gatherer in Australia as an aborigine?

    depends when are talking about…not so good in feudal times for the Brit. But say 1800:

    English farm labourer

    Good:
    – printed word coming in more – leads to possibilities
    – if you could break away lots of possibilities in towns and cities to better yourself
    – village life not too bad but very isolated (no bicycles yet and cartage expensive)
    – abilities to boil tea and make nicer foods using iron pots etc
    – world of invention starting to surround you leading to better quality of life: medicines; heating, transport etc
    Bad:
    – some brutal practises in terms of law and order
    – lack of franchise
    – poor law and order overall

    hunter gatherer in Australia as an aborigine

    Good:
    – big meat diet if you could hunt
    – nice country to live overall if you could find the right temperate zone; eg: Newcastle up to Rocky on the east coast
    Bad:
    short brutal life

  50. Arky

    Not the same Calli.
    No dashes coming out of the beak.

  51. cohenite

    That’s never coming back although I wish you’d go walkabout at times. Permanently.

    I’d love to head prefect: if you come with me.

    Again, you miss the point. I’ve already said a few times now the Mabo case was very difficult being applied to the mainland because the islanders and the mainlanders were different people with quite different ways of living.

    No, I said that.

    How do you argue for minority rights though for those who want self determination

    I don’t think aboriginal activists want self determination or at least the bill for it; they want what they want and the society they rail against to pay for it.

    Western democracy and its rights based structure only works when its diverse elements all accept the rights structure: currently the muslims don’t, the left don’t and some of the aboriginals don’t.

    Those who don’t have to be resisted.

    Now, when do we leave on walkabout?

  52. Fleeced

    I’ve never listened to an Alex Jones podcast – mostly just saw silly memes and heard the excerpts – but didn’t like how he was silenced and forced out. So, seeing him on Joe Rogan was the most I’ve ever seen of the guy… He’s a very strange man, but it was very entertaining. I thought I’d watch a few minutes, but ended up watching the whole 4+ hours.

  53. Irish famines didn’t happen in the late 18th, they were nineteenth century things.
    I’ve just been reading about life in Norfolk at the end of the 18th.

    Seems like due to enclosure laws the lot of the average English rural worker did deteriorate in the 18th though but it wasn’t all pick and shovel, people could skill up.

    Life was not brilliant but the poor laws stopped most from starving when there was no work, food pretty monotonous but you got fed

    Another big difference would have been Christianity, and how that affected life in general.

    Sure there would have been some physical and sexual abuse in Europe but compared to what I’ve read about aboriginal tribal customs it was a Sunday School picnic.

    Oh yeah they had those too.

    I can’t link but it was tough times.pdf

  54. calli

    Yes, JC. His range is limited. Compare to LA Confidential and A Beautiful Mind. He’s playing Russell Crowe.

    Which simply means good casting, while taking nothing from each of those fine movies.

  55. Arky

    Pity those children

    ..
    You can’t judge a bloke completely on his politics
    I have known some old fashioned hard lefties who were pretty committed to the job.

  56. Pedro the Ignorant

    Native title.
    Hohohoho.

    A generation of lawyer’s sprogs put through expensive private schools on the back of hundreds, if not thousands, of spurious and dodgy “sacred sites”. Tribal BigMen enriched beyond their wildest dreams while the rest of the tribe live in Cheerful Squalor (H/T that numbers loon).

    Astonishing how many of these “sacred sites”appear a few days after the exploration results are filed and the claims registered. Tens of thousands of investment dollars down the drain and then having to cough up legal fees to fight the BS.
    No explorer or miner, large or small is ever immune from these scam merchants.

    Having said that, genuine aboriginal sacred sites, verified by the traditional owners, are treated with respect by 99% of the mining industry.

  57. JC

    Up at dawn, work four hours, cook a meal, sleep during the hot afternoon when there’s no mosquitos, build a fire, eat leftovers, spend most of the night yarning and playing, sleep fitfully for a few hours before dawn. Repeat.

    In the mid 90s we came here for a holiday in FNQ and spent about just over a week in some godforsaken place called 1770. It was a great holiday coming in from NYC. There was a reef teeming with natural oysters. I ate shiploads by smashing a rock into them.

    We’d head to the beach in the morning and their were roos near the shore. The kids were amazed, as there was no traffic.

  58. Infidel Tiger

    How fitting that Quentin and Mike Willesee both died within 3 months of each other.

    An end of an era. As a nation we used to crave current affairs. Now we watch MAFS.

  59. Arky

    The thing I object to is the black armband stuff.
    There is no excuse for trying to make youngsters ashamed of their history.
    Corrosive.
    I’m not pushing my politics down kids throats. No one should.

  60. 1735099

    The vast majority were brothers and nuns.

    I was never taught by nuns, but when my mother was giving birth (I’m the eldest of six) we were often farmed off to relatives because we lived in the bush and hospital was hundreds of kilometers away.
    On one of these occasions, I attended a large regional Christian brothers school for two weeks. This was a shock to the system, because I was accustomed to a two-teacher school with an enrollment of about thirty.
    The class I was in had forty kids, ten more than the total enrollment of my usual school.
    There was a state school across the road, and the uniforms of the brothers’ school and the state school were an almost identical blue. The brother teaching the class of forty that I was in was also a local soccer coach.
    On this day, a kid from the state school was sent across the road by his teacher to give a note about soccer practice to the Christian brother taking my class. It wasn’t a good time to visit, as many had not done their homework, and there was a queue lined up to be strapped.
    The state school kid got on the end of the queue to give the note to the brother. When he got to the head of the queue, he tried to explain that he had a note, but the brother, well into his strapping stride by this time, said “Put out your hand, or you’ll get two!”
    He did, and got one.
    When the brother realised he’s strapped someone from a different school, he wasn’t fazed. His words were “This is one you can bank!”
    True story.
    This was late fifties….

  61. JC

    I don’t think aboriginal activists want self determination or at least the bill for it; they want what they want and the society they rail against to pay for it.

    Western democracy and its rights based structure only works when its diverse elements all accept the rights structure: currently the muslims don’t, the left don’t and some of the aboriginals don’t.

    Those who don’t have to be resisted.

    Pretty much agree. See, hanging around a libertarian site has helped you retire the uniform and jackboots.

  62. Nick

    Now we watch MAFS.

    Canute affairs

  63. Fleeced

    With Bishop, Pyne, Laundy, O’Dwyer, Banks et al departing the Liberal Party, I am suddenly feeling much better about the future of that party.

    So glad Pyne is leaving – but I fear he’d only do so if it meant increasing his personal power, somehow.

    But yes, it is satisfying seeing all of the Turncoats leave.

  64. Black Ball

    Ok thank you Numbers for your response.

    Every principal I have had the pleasure of working with or knowing through my children are not public servants with no knowledge of the education sector. They have been teaching for years before ascendancy to principal.

    As for the students running the curriculum, there was a report that suggested that they have more say in what’s being taught, which would be a terrible outcome.

  65. 1735099

    In the mid 90s we came here for a holiday in FNQ and spent about just over a week in some godforsaken place called 1770.

    The Town of 1770 is a nice spot, but it’s bloody long way from FNQ*.
    It’s south of Gladstone (Central Queensland).
    My wife comes from Herberton and reckons that FNQ begins at Innisfail.

    *Far North Queensland

  66. Black Ball

    Commodus’ virtues could well come from Shorten himself.

  67. Infidel Tiger

    True story

    Perhaps.

    But then I read “soccer practice”.

    In country Queensland? In the 60’s?

    Not possible.

  68. johanna

    AC/DC had the metronome drummer, Rudd. Awesome. Mozart.

    Zep had Boham – perhaps Beethoven?

  69. Nick

    The Town of 1770 is a nice spot, but it’s bloody long way from FNQ*.
    It’s south of Gladstone (Central Queensland).
    My wife comes from Herberton and reckons that FNQ begins at Innisfail.

    Thanks Lizzie.

  70. dover_beach

    IT, re Senator Herron …
    He took parliamentary leave to go to Rwanda to serve in a medical team after the massacres.
    He had ten children (one Down Syndrome) – a lot of family to leave behind in your upper middle age. This service was extremely confronting and he carried the scars. Entirely voluntary.

    He was a Knight Commander of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem and a Papal Knight of St Gregory. Which is not only a dazzling and rare combination but amazingly cool. His wife was one of Queensland’s top beauties in their younger days.

    Wow, I had no idea he was this fine a man. We will be lucky indeed to see the likes of him again in the Parliament.

  71. Fisky

    It’s much tougher now than it used to be, mainly because the politicians and lawyers get involved at the drop of a hat. The kids haven’t changed. They make it worthwhile.
    Education should be run by teachers.

    Agreed 100% that teachers should be in charge, but it’s not just the politicians who are ruining education, but rather education academics as well. Leaving aside the administrative burdens (that usually come from politicians and bureaucrats), every dumb pedagogical idea to come out of academia has had the effect of drastically raising teacher workload, to the detriment of everyone.

    Sadly, the teaching unions do a miserable job of reducing teacher workload. The yet-to-be-implemented Gonski 2 report, for example, would have forced secondary teachers to plan about 150 lessons per day. The teaching unions are totally fine with that.

  72. Entropy

    hunter gatherer in Australia as an aborigine

    Good:
    – big meat diet if you could hunt

    I’m guessing you have never eaten goanna.

  73. Atoms for Peace

    IT. I can relate to a Numbers story. Copped six of the best whilst delivering an urgent message from the school office to the staff room which was an out of bounds area. One of the bruvvers schools.

  74. Snoopy

    Wow, I had no idea he was this fine a man. We will be lucky indeed to see the likes of him again in the Parliament.

    But was he ever president of the AMA?

  75. Snoopy

    I’m guessing you have never eaten goanna.

    In my experience, echidna tastes of soy sauce and pepper. But maybe it’s all in the cooking.

  76. Atoms for Peace

    Snoopy. Don’t eat the echidna gut.

  77. Snoopy

    Atoms for Peace
    #2947909, posted on March 1, 2019 at 9:31 pm
    Snoopy. Don’t eat the echidna gut.

    I wasn’t offered that. Does it taste strongly of ants?

  78. C.L.

    Four hours of Alex Jones, Fleeced?
    Far out. That’s dedication.
    Basically, Jones is a televangelist.
    He’s come up with a crazy racket and I guess it has made him a very rich man.

  79. Tintarella di Luna

    Vale Mike Willesee gone to God, end of an era, he was quite the naughty boy. Germaine Greer was the co-respondent on Joan Stanbury’s divorce papers.

  80. Infidel Tiger

    Wow, I had no idea he was this fine a man. We will be lucky indeed to see the likes of him again in the Parliament

    Indeed.

    Now we have a Parliament of Bishops and Burkes.

  81. Pedro the Ignorant

    Goanna tastes like greasy rubber.

    Bleccccch.

  82. Gab

    C.L.
    #2947802, posted on March 1, 2019 at 7:52 pm

    Up to 11 at Spinal Cat.

    Que? Is this code for something, CL? What am I missing?

  83. Infidel Tiger

    IT. I can relate to a Numbers story. Copped six of the best whilst delivering an urgent message from the school office to the staff room which was an out of bounds area. One of the bruvvers schools.

    I don’t doubt that. Brothers ran a tight ship.

    But soccer? In Qld? In the 60’s?

    No way.

  84. Tintarella di Luna

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2947910, posted on March 1, 2019 at 9:34 pm

    Good heavens Zippy was it an open-air hearing, there appears to be a rather large landmark nestled beside the floral-apparelled person giving evidence.

  85. bespoke

    What is your opinion on the possibility of a student determined curriculum that Victoria are thinking of?

    To be honest, I know nothing about it. My career was mostly spent with students with multiple impairments. For them, the curriculum was very much about skills for independence to help them achieve the best possible quality of life.

    Typical evasiveness 1735099 you’ve never been shy about giving your opinion on things you no nothing such as economics and Democratic candidates. Why not start fresh with Black Ball he seem genuine and not tarnished with BS we are.

  86. Arky

    I don’t doubt that. Brothers ran a tight ship

    ..
    That is not a tight ship.
    That is a sadistic hellhole.

  87. Snoopy

    Sadly, the teaching unions do a miserable job of reducing teacher workload.

    Fisky, teachers unions have no interest in reducing teacher workload. On the contrary they work to increase it.

    One, to further justify classifying as a profession something that parents used to do as a matter of course;

    Two, to justify reducing class sizes even further.

  88. Fleeced

    Four hours of Alex Jones, Fleeced?
    Far out. That’s dedication.

    I’ve never watched him before – and don’t think I could if it were him by himself. He needs someone like Rogan steering him, I think – he seems to be full on ADHD.

    Basically, Jones is a televangelist.
    He’s come up with a crazy racket and I guess it has made him a very rich man.

    He’s an odd duck, but the way they closed him down was quite vile. He had his payment systems and everything whacked, in addition to basically being banned everywhere.

    Watch a bit of the vid… just ten minutes or so.

  89. C.L.

    Senator Herron insisted that there was no stolen “generation.” It was absurd to say a whole generation was “stolen,” he argued. For saying that, a couple of tech leftists came up with a ‘game’ that allowed players to steal his ten children. You can see the faint beginnings of the Pell tactic right there. These are evil people and they have to be crushed.

    I read an interview with Herron after his retirement (Catholic Leader probably). He was remembering their first pregnancy and his prayers that the newborn would be perfect. The baby, a girl, had Down Syndrome. Herron was initially upset but – he said – he then realised his prayer had been answered.

    He is a revered figure among Down Syndrome advocates and workers in Queensland. He was the doctor who pushed for the abandonment of “mongolism” as a medical term.

    Down Syndrome Australia: Vale Dr John Herron.

  90. Arky

    One, to further justify classifying as a profession something that parents used to do as a matter of course;

    Two, to justify reducing class sizes even further.

    ..
    Three: to gain employment for mates in professional development field and in CRT agencies.

  91. calli

    Page number, Gab.

    Going to be a record. Or maybe just an Imitation of Life.

  92. C.L.

    Have you not seen This Is Spinal Tap, Gab?
    Nigel Tufnel has an amp that goes up to 11.

  93. BrettW

    Just listened to podcast of Ray Hadley intro from this morning.

    Called Pell supporters halfwits and clearly the conviction is clearcut to him. The evidence simply not discussed by him and the uncorroborated word of one person is apparently enough for Hadley. He has been on a campaign against pedophiles for years and I have no problem with that. However in my opinion it has clouded his view to the point simply cant question a victims account.

    He made a comment about Pell supporters (I presume he means those who find the evidence problematic) not thinking of the victims (plural). So Pell is being convicted for other matters not heard in evidence.

    Courier Mail had 13 letters on the Pell case in response to a column by Bolt. 10 were anti Bolt and only 1 supporting Bolt view. 2 were more on procedure. No idea if CM has run any of the other articles outlining problems with the case but the letters indicate there are many for whom evidence does not matter.

    Australian legal system will be a joke, in my humble opinion, if this conviction stands.

  94. Gab

    Have you not seen This Is Spinal Tap, Gab?
    Nigel Tufnel has an amp that goes up to 11.

    No but I will go find it and see 🙂

  95. bespoke

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2947645, posted on March 1, 2019 at 5:19 pm
    I refuse to watch spew&A but will watch peterson

    I’m a bit of a back seat driver but I would have liked him to say ‘If your passionate about climate change do more then learn the slogans’.

  96. Gab

    Best wishes to you, Calli and many more happy returns of the day. You share your birthday with my nephew, so no wonder you’re a good soul! 🙂

  97. C.L.

    When I first watched the Stone ‘enge debacle, I almost died laughing.

  98. Ivan Denisovich

    For saying that, a couple of tech leftists came up with a ‘game’ that allowed players to steal his ten children.

    Think about that after reading the letter the daughter sent to her parents following the death of her sister (CL’s link #2947924)

  99. zyconoclast

    Angelina Jolie directed (not acted) movie

    Unbroken.
    Good movie, worth watching.

    I am surprised it was not attacked for the lack of diversity and numerous scenes with blackface.

  100. Knuckle Dragger

    Black Ball;

    Everything you’ve posted today – + 1. Intelligent, reasoned and evidence-based.

    Including the props for Gladiator.

    Strength and honour.

  101. Knuckle Dragger

    Also:

    Popery.

  102. Gab

    Popery

    Reminds me, I was in a bottle shop today and saw a bottle of Porphyry Pearl.

    It thought of Infidel Tiger.

    i don’t know why 😀

  103. Infidel Tiger

    Reminds me, I was in a bottle shop today and saw a bottle of Porphyry Pearl.

    It thought of Infidel Tiger.

    I’m not that old!

  104. Bruce in WA

    Reminds me, I was in a bottle shop today and saw a bottle of Porphyry Pearl.

    Ah, the good old Le’gopener!

  105. Arky

    Was there some old dero eating his own scabs buying it?

  106. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ah, the good old Le’gopener!

    Used to be thought the height of sophistication, as I recall. That, and Mateus Rose.

  107. Gab

    No, I don’t recollect seeing you there, Arky. 😀

    What’d you buy?

  108. Arky

    Ouch!
    Stabbed in the back.

  109. Gab

    I still luvs ya, bro. Scabs and all.

  110. Bruce in WA

    Used to be thought the height of sophistication, as I recall. That, and Mateus Rose.

    Indeed! I impressed a (then) girlfriend by ordering a bottle of Liebfraumilch. She thought I was terribly sophisticated. 😀

  111. Knuckle Dragger

    Can someone please enlighten me:

    Why is it the apparent fashion among ladies in this day and age to shave their eyebrows, only to paint them back on fifteen times their original size?

    Combined with the ongoing ‘duck lips’ fad, if they’re doing it to make themselves look like psychotic Neanderthals – it’s working.

  112. Arky

    I expect this type of low down attack from that necrotic Armadillo creature, but you are better than that.
    Disappointing.

  113. Tel

    Basically, Jones is a televangelist

    No … Jones is an humble journalist in the honoured Gonzo school, as translated to the digital age.

    First to publish beats most accurate story every time. Maybe that bothers you, but too bad because it’s true anyway.

    If you can’t be first to publish on every story … then try to publish what the other guys are keeping away from. Then you beat them on something at least.

    There’s always time next week to go back and review the question, and maybe publish again with an update if it turns out you were totally wrong last time round. It’s a sound model and Jones didn’t invent the idea, but he adapted it pretty well.

  114. Percy Popinjay

    salute homes

    LOL – bluddee hell – watching an excruciating interview between Dead Willesee and Homosexual Keating, circa 1985(?)

    Dorkchoices was well rehearsed. The Ozzie labore pardee has nothing other than class warfare cliches.

    Indeed, Teats Peanuthead has little else, apart from a fortuitously gifted pair o’ norks.

  115. Gab

    Yeah, you’ll get over it, I’m sure!

  116. Bruce in WA

    Hmmm … too fast on the trigger finger.

    The sad thing was (a) I had no actual idea what Liebfraumilch was, and (b) I mispronounced the name, as I found out when the waiter repeated my order back to me.

  117. Tel

    http://bumwine.com

    Please sign the guest book, if you haven’t already … and sing a few rounds of Night Train.

  118. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I think we might be surprised at the numbers of people who are more than a little uncomfortable with the precedent this might set, quite apart from this individual case.

    Did a dance class this morning and surprised at the number of usually fairly apolitical women at coffee afterwards wanted to discuss the Pell case because they really objected to the precedent. Not all were Catholics by any means. Yesterday, spoke to a dear friend who is a very committed Catholic who was dreadfully upset by this case; said she was so distressed at its miscarriage of justice that she was bursting into tears frequently about it. Then spoke to a friend in Tassie via phone with whom I usually chat about family and fashions and she volunteered her view that the case was deeply concerning. Usually with various friends I am often the one who quietly raises political issues as a little sideline, but not about this. Everyone’s talking and an awful lot of them are hopping mad or at least rather concerned about injustice. I didn’t come across one person who felt that the result was justified and that Pell was guilty. Limited sample, but still demonstrates to me that this case is cutting deeply and beyond ‘pub talk’.

    ———-

    By the way, did some prick upthread just take my name in vain?
    What a total tosser.

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The sad thing was (a) I had no actual idea what Liebfraumilch was, and (b) I mispronounced the name, as I found out when the waiter repeated my order back to me.

    I’m remembering one of the ouens (not me), back in the day, who ordered Liebfraumilch in an effort to win the heart (?) of a certain young lady. She drank enough Liebfraumilch to drown an elephant, informed him “Bad luck, you’re not getting your leg over, tonight” and caught a taxi home.

  120. Percy Popinjay

    Dilip (I’m not an imbecile, I just look and sound like one) Kelty
    Paul (“I’m wrong, yet again”) Kelly
    Laurie (I did not cark it due to morbid imbecility, it was due to morbid obesity) Oakes
    Graeme (bucket guts) Richardson
    “This is the staggering entirely unexpected incompetence we had to have, I tells ya – and schlocktor Hewson agrees with me!”

    FFS – don’t do it peoples – I’m only doing it , so you don’t have to.

  121. Bruce in WA

    I’m remembering one of the ouens (not me), back in the day, who ordered Liebfraumilch in an effort to win the heart (?) of a certain young lady. She drank enough Liebfraumilch to drown an elephant, informed him “Bad luck, you’re not getting your leg over, tonight” and caught a taxi home.

    😀 😀

  122. Percy Popinjay

    John (locally manufactured lemon plan) Buttons

    FFS – watching any sort of history of the ALP, no matter how abridged, is figuratively akin to dying and going to hell. 🙁

  123. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Happy Birthday, Calli.
    Can’t stay to party on, I am headed for a bath.

    As usual, just dropped by late for a quick dekko.

  124. Percy Popinjay

    “consensus”

    Kiddies – if anyone utters this curse within a 100 metre distance of yourself, unleash thy sword and hack off their head.

    Do not tarry, I tells ya. They will thank you, when you meet again in Valhalla.

  125. Oh come on

    I watched much of the Rogan-Alex Jones podcast. My main takeaway – a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

  126. Black Ball

    Cheers Knuckle Dragger. I don’t wish to drag down further the quality of the blog, my opinion only. Gladiator is coming to the crescendo. Recall Bunyipitude and his post ‘Born To The Purple’. Very much applicable now to the current state of affairs.

  127. Mark A

    Tel
    #2947962, posted on March 1, 2019 at 10:47 pm

    http://bumwine.com

    Please sign the guest book, if you haven’t already … and sing a few rounds of Night Train.

    Interesting collection.
    Wonder if available from Dan Murphy?

  128. Pedro the Ignorant

    The good ol’ Blue Note Tavern in West Perth served Leibfraumilch by the bucketful back in the early 80’s.

    It was a hangout for high flyers and their bimbos in the glorious days of WA Inc. when money was no object and there was no tomorrow.

    I loved that place.

  129. MatrixTransform

    #2947910, posted on March 1, 2019 at 9:34 pm

    Leyonhjelm rocks

  130. classical_hero

    Mark A
    #2946352, posted on February 28, 2019 at 1:26 pm
    1735099
    #2946346, posted on February 28, 2019 at 1:20 pm

    What you are referencing are later English editions which are “said to have been made with a view to readability rather than in an effort to rigidly reproduce Hitler’s sometimes idiosyncratic German form”.

    Do you read the bible?
    A translation is a translation is a translation…

    You obviously don’t speak any foreign language well enough to appreciate the stupidity of your statement.

    That’s a bad analogy because with the Bible, you’re translating from three different languages that have no linguistic history. Whereas English and German are sister languages that makes it easier to translate into.

  131. Percy Popinjay

    their bimbos

    Gee. thank goodness there are no self righteous, staggeringly stupid, intolerably sanctimonious, unutterably pompous, brain damaged collectivists infesting this beloved blog who would inevitably take offence at such stating of the bleeding obvious, Pedro.

    “Bimbo” is both a wonderful and much maligned descriptor.

  132. zyconoclast

    The ABC and Michelle Guthrie have resolved the unfair dismissal case brought by the former managing director.

    In a statement the ABC said details of the settlement would remain confidential.

    “The ABC and its former Managing Director Michelle Guthrie are pleased to announce a resolution to their Federal Court litigation,” the statement said.

    “No further public statement will be made regarding the resolution by the ABC or Ms Guthrie.”

  133. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The good ol’ Blue Note Tavern in West Perth served Leibfraumilch by the bucketful back in the early 80’s.

    IIRC, those who had made their fortunes in mining, weren’t above offering the young ladies who worked there, a thousand dollars – in 1985 – for a night’s discussing Ugandan affairs? Anything you want to tell us?

  134. Oh come on

    Alex Jones’s existential big picture owes a great debt to L. Ron Hubbard. And the historical events he draws upon to illustrate his grand narrative are frequently out by several years or even decades. Alex Jones covers a lot of ground but he gets much of the detail way wrong.

  135. Tel

    Interesting collection.
    Wonder if available from Dan Murphy?

    Shouldn’t you be buying something more … artisanal?

  136. Armadillo

    When the brother realised he’s strapped someone from a different school, he wasn’t fazed. His words were “This is one you can bank!”
    True story.

    Most things about that story reek of absolute bullshit. Half truths about stuff.

    Lefties always lie. They can’t help themselves.

  137. JC

    Oh come on
    #2947971, posted on March 1, 2019 at 11:01 pm

    I watched much of the Rogan-Alex Jones podcast. My main takeaway – a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

    I’m just listening it to it. This must be like being in an insane asylum. Jones is beyond a crazy fucker. Way past. Rogan should be careful to because he’s a little off centre.

  138. JC

    It’s the funniest thing ever.

  139. Steve trickler

    Dinesh at his finest.

    He packs a punch here. Right in the throat of the Democratic Party.



  140. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This one’s for Western Australian Cats, about the Cardinal Pell lynching

    There’s a letter in the “Western Australian ” newspaper on the subject of jury infallibility.

    “So, don’t tell me that juries are always right.”

    It’s signed by Brian Burke…..

  141. struth

    Thanks for those Tommy Robinson videos, zippy……………………

  142. Bushkid

    Taught yourself to read, did you, old mate?

    Plenty of people, myself included, have been taught to read and write, taught comprehension, and even mathematics by our parents long before we actually met a teacher. All the children in my rural area, from a range of families and circumstances, had similar experiences. Teachers are there for the lazy parents who can’t be bothered to take responsibility for teaching their own children even the basics. Not all parents are losers, or are uneducated themselves.

  143. Oh come on

    It is funny but fully crazy. Rogan isn’t really the smartest bloke. Not nearly enough pushback on Jones’s nuttiness and inaccuracies.

  144. Percy Popinjay

    jury infallibility

    LOL

  145. Black Ball

    Steve Trickled wouldn’t mind hearing from the unkempt woman on the right. Sour looking slag.

  146. Steve trickler

    Black Ball
    #2947994, posted on March 1, 2019 at 11:39 pm

    The Social Justice lawyer?

  147. JC

    Rogan isn’t really the smartest bloke. Not nearly enough pushback on Jones’s nuttiness and inaccuracies.

    I’ve listened to Rogan in other interviews and doesn’t sound crazy. Maybe he’s just playing along with Jones to getting to say even more demented shit. It’s like a slow motion 4 hour train wreck.

  148. Oh come on

    I wasn’t saying Rogan’s crazy (although he is very credulous). Alex Jones is crazy.

  149. Steve trickler

    The maker or makers of these clips are very switched on. Within hours of real events in politics, they pounce.



  150. mh

    Alex Jones predicted the entirety of the Deep State pushback against Trump which we see play out every day. He predicted this accurately because he has knowledge of which powers are pushing which agenda.

    Great man.

  151. JC

    Oh okay

    This is what makes America great. Where else can you get a lunatic like Alex Jones spitting out crazy shit for four hours without drawing breath on a show like Rohan’s.

    Trump used to talk to Jones. Lol.

    The place is continent sized mental asylum.

  152. Percy Popinjay

    So, peoples, are we all just really thrilled about the fact that we now exist in a totalitarian state, mate?

    They ain’t even bothering to hide it anymore, evidently.

    But yeah, jury trials are our strength, you cheerfully squalid comrades.

  153. JC

    mh

    Stop being an idiot. Jones has been shouting about deep state/ rogue state for the past two decades. It wouldn’t be a prediction for him to suggest the rogue state would be after Trump as president. It’s a “normal” progression.

    Also, the rogue state Jones has in his mind is not the same thing we talk about. Jones believes smartphones emit radiation in way to control us that have come out of NASA and the CIA. That’s Jone’s rogue state he thinks is trying to get Trump.

  154. mh

    Saw Nancy on the news a bit earlier, the sound bite where she is talking about not understanding why
    Trump appears to trust bad guys like Putin and Kim.

    She appears to shake while she talks. Not a good look.

  155. JC

    In all of Jones’ madness there is a kernel of truth occasionally. He talked to Rogan about one time having 6 bank accounts and a shopping website. He’s now left with one bank account due to his banishment and is regarded as a terror risk around the world. Jones asked how is very much different to the social credit system the Chinese are putting together. There is some cred to this assertion.

  156. JC

    He seems to attract serious crazies.. like seriously deadly crazies who have shown up to his studio with a truck load of guns wanting to kill Jones because he’s not going far enough with conspiracies.

    And you freaking wonder how is it possible there are so many mass murders in America.

  157. Zyconoclast

    The stench of death exists in this place

  158. Infidel Tiger

    This is what makes America great. Where else can you get a lunatic like Alex Jones spitting out crazy shit for four hours without drawing breath on a show like Rohan’s.

    State TV in the Mid East does that 24/7 365.

    Might be my age, but Rogan is a far bigger influence on people I know than Peterson.

    Weird. I think he’s boring as batshit.

  159. Steve trickler

    Joss Ackland, plays the perfect role as a psycho in the backseat. Lol.

    You’ll recognise him.



  160. JC

    Yea, but he has interesting fuckers on his program, Artie.

    He had that despicable canute, Jack Dorsey on for two hours a few weeks ago. He went really softcock with him though.

  161. Percy Popinjay

    I think he’s boring as batshit.

    Indeed.

    Common sense and stating the bleeding obvious will only get you so far.

  162. JC

    From wiki.

    Jones has three children with ex-wife Kelly Jones. The couple divorced in March 2015. In 2017, Kelly sought sole or joint custody of their children due to her ex-husband’s behavior. She claimed “he’s not a stable person” and “I’m concerned that he is engaged in felonious behavior, threatening a member of Congress” (Adam Schiff). His attorney responded by claiming that “he’s playing a character” and describing him as a “performance artist”. In court, Jones denied playing a character and he called his show “the most bona fide, hard-core, real McCoy thing there is, and everybody knows it”. Kelly was awarded the right to decide where their children live while he maintains visitation rights.

    His son, Rex Jones, has worked for Infowars, receiving media attention for a video which was critical of gun control and BuzzFeed News.

    Is that true, I wonder. Has he really threatened Adam Schiff? Jones is not so bad after all then.

  163. JC

    Jones on schiff. Great rant.

    Radio host and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, an ally of President Trump who operates the InfoWars media outlet, went on an expletive-laden anti-gay tirade last week against Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee that is investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

    Here it is.

    I’m not against gay people,” Jones says in the video. “I love them. They’re great folks. But Schiff looks like the archetypal c—sucker with those little deer-in-the-headlight eyes and all his stuff. And there’s something about this fairy, hopping around, bossing everybody around, trying to intimidate people like me and you.

    “I want to tell Congressman Schiff and all the rest of them, Hey listen asshole … listen you son of a bitch, what the f— is your problem? You want to sit here and say that I’m a goddamn f—ing Russian. You get in my face with that I’ll beat your goddamn ass, you son of a bitch. You piece of shit. You f—ing goddamn f—er. Listen f— head, you have f—ing crossed a line. Get that through your goddamn f—ing head. Stop pushing your shit. You’re the people that have f—ed this country over and gang-raped the shit out of it and lost an election. So stop shooting your mouth off claiming I’m the enemy. You got that you goddamn son of a bitch? Fill your hands. I’m sorry, but I’m done. You start calling me a foreign agent, those are f—ing fighting words.

    “He’s sucking globalist d—,” Jones concludes.

    Schiff’s office declined to comment.

    I bet Schiff’s office declined to comment.

  164. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Pedro the Ignorant
    #2947974, posted on March 1, 2019 at 11:07 pm

    This one’s for Pedro.
    Regarding the Perth Mint Swindle –

    Did one Donald Leslie Hancock’s minions think they could bash a confession, over the Perth Mint swindle, out of a former Special Air Service Regiment trooper, and a Viet Nam veteran?

  165. Crossie

    Infidel Tiger
    #2947815, posted on March 1, 2019 at 8:01 pm
    With Bishop, Pyne, Laundy, O’Dwyer, Banks et al departing the Liberal Party, I am suddenly feeling much better about the future of that party.

    Marise Payne should be next.

  166. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Marise Payne should be next.

    Marise Payne as Minister for Defence?

    I would have stepped forward, from the ranks.

    “Minister, with all due respect, I am required to complete certain physical fitness tests , to determine if I have the priveledge of serving this Government.

    The Nine miler starts in two minutes, Minister, will you join us? Lead by example?

  167. egg_

    Joss Ackland, plays the perfect role as a psycho in the backseat.

    A fantastic rendition of an Elvis song with an exemplary voice – even if he’s Queer as.

  168. Mater

    Had a reminiscent chuckle as it flew through my Facebook feed.

    Gone are those days.

    Les Patterson discusses Joan Collins with Michael Willesee (1:33)

  169. Fleeced

    In all of Jones’ madness there is a kernel of truth occasionally. He talked to Rogan about one time having 6 bank accounts and a shopping website. He’s now left with one bank account due to his banishment and is regarded as a terror risk around the world. Jones asked how is very much different to the social credit system the Chinese are putting together. There is some cred to this assertion.

    YThat was probably the most valid point of the encounter. In hindsight, it shouldn’t be that surprising. Anyone who has dealt with credit rating systems know how easy it is to trash someone’s rating (irreversibly). The social media rating of China seems to use a similar template. In Jones’ case, he says it was SPLC which effected his credit rating by flagging him as a hate group, and that this went into the credit system (which means it’s now effectively a social rating system).

    Most of the other stuff was balls-out crazy, though hearing Jones talk of how he was chocked out a lot as a kid (for fun) explains a lot. It was an entertaining podcast, and I wasn’t expecting that.

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