Wednesday Forum: February 27, 2019

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  1. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ah lithium…
    A Tesla Burned to a Crisp on a Vermont Lake. We Walked Out There and Found It.
    Over the weekend, a Tesla Model X caught fire on the frozen surface of Lake Champlain in Vermont. The fire happened around 8 p.m. on Sunday, and the fire almost completely consumed the vehicle.

  2. Fat Tony

    1735099
    #2947095, posted on March 1, 2019 at 8:27 am
    As I recall it, the truth is somewhere between your comments and the original ‘it was meant for everyone’

    My objection to the original post was the inference that it was a “secret” project, and that Di Thorley “spilled the beans”.
    Anyone living in Toowoomba at the time knows that to be rubbish.

    Listen fuckwit – I was living in Toowoomba then too (since 1963) and it was intended to keep the project secret from the people as long as possible.
    You spend your time with little kids, I am an engineer and I have worked in water recycling/treatment plants and I was supporting the No case.
    Pretty well everything the state government and the council told us was bullshit.

  3. Mother Lode

    I know someone who left AOG because of constant anti Catholic rhetoric,

    What do the ones that think the Catholic Church to be some demonic force do with the Bible? Considering it was passed down through preceding ages by a Church headed by a Pope wouldn’t they be on the look out for where deceitful bastards had altered the text to their own nasty purposes?

    Honest question.

  4. Notafan

    A Rob Bowers type would also be bad

  5. twostix

    This place knows that I don’t like fake Australian “libertarians” so I generally stay away from their self congratulatory fake viral videos.

    But this video of Lyonhelm in the senate is genuinely excellent and is genuinely going viral.

    Be absolutely astounded that a government department would be so aggressively political and collectively so mentally retarded.

    The Workplace Gender Equality Agency, they find out thanks to the Senator, completely forgot to account for the fact that men work more hours than women when putting together their wage gap stats. When questioned about it you can see the panic in their faces as the realisation dawns on the panel of lesbian harpies from the department – the best they have to offer – that the pinnacle of their intellectual output is basically on par with a year 7 student’s shit social studies assignment.

    Must watch.

  6. The article argues for compulsory voting, mainly on the basis that it advantages politicians – like Kerryn Phelps – that she likes.

    I’ve read it and that’s not my take.
    The people advantaged by compulsory voting are the voters.
    One of the pillars of democracy is participation.
    Lincoln didn’t talk about government of the people, by some of the people, for the people.

    All else being equal, the more participative a democracy, the stronger and more legimate it is.
    Compulsory suffrage also avoids the phenomenon (such as in the USA, where 26% of the eligible voting population actually voted for the POTUS) when leaders do not have majority popular support.

  7. None

    I want to ask people why the police decided to release the video of Pell’s first interview. And do you know that it is edited. Isn’t that unusual in a case like this with an appeal pending for police to release a piece of evidence like that? The Victoria Police a are just s*** I’ve decided, absolutely not to be trusted in any shape size orlform and Dan Andrews a practicing Catholic someone who supports killing the elderly and the unborn give me a f****** break.

  8. Notafan

    Tess Livingstone gives an excellent account

    Though I have not been to a mass at the Cathedral celebrated by the Cardinal, I have been to several others there

    The final procession is part of the mass, and the idea that someone would be able to commit an assault with dozens of eyes on him is truly absurd.

  9. Ivan Denisovich

    For this reason alone, the Pell saga is our Dreyfus Affair, not merely a rerun of the Chamberlain case.

    Indeed, Dover.

  10. Roger

    For this reason alone, the Pell saga is our Dreyfus Affair, not merely a rerun of the Chamberlain case.

    I’ve made that comparison too for obvious reasons, but I believe the Pell Affair is worse than the Dreyfus Affair.

    With Dreyfus the conspiracy ensued after a charge was made.

    With Pell the conspiracy existed at the outset, with charges then concocted to fit.

    At the very least, it is old fashioned police stupidity writ large – a fit up of a person with an international profile, no less, drawing the eyes of the world upon them. At worst, as with Dreyfus, it is evidence of deep seated prejudice and moral corruption in high places. Those responsible for setting up the investigation of Pell before any complaints had been received ought to be feeling very uneasy.

  11. Bruce of Newcastle

    Climate change deniers

    Hark is talking about himself again.
    You need to come down to Earth and accept that most of the changes we’ve seen are natural.
    Btw, nice to see Mr Wheeler put in charge of the USEPA.

  12. I was living in Toowoomba then too (since 1963) and it was intended to keep the project secret from the people as long as possible.

    You should have no problem backing your assertion with some facts.
    Fire away….

    Listen fuckwit

    Abuse makes you look childish.

  13. dover_beach

    I’ve made that comparison too for obvious reasons, but I believe the Pell Affair is worse than the Dreyfus Affair.

    No doubt and for the reasons you’ve given.

  14. twostix

    One must understand that the goal of these dregs of the upper middle class harpies and their fake wage-gap campaign is for the government to mandate that they be paid more than men for less work. It will be things like getting more government funded days off for women, forced promotions for women, government giving money to businesses to hire women, etc.

    That is what they want: white working men to pay the female bugwomen classes a tax so they can spend more time not working but figuring out how to obliterate the white working classes.

  15. Tel

    Climate change deniers (and especially Trump supporters – although exactly where you fall in that spectrum I dunno) don’t get to moan about how it’s become a “post truth world”.

    So who is applying adjustments to temperature data? Could Trump be doing that?!?

    Can you just remind me why the historical record of Darwin needs to keep getting adjusted to be colder … because there’s a lot of people want to know about the details there. Back when I was doing science, you wrote the measurement down and that was that, but at some stage we started going back and changing the numbers. If editing the past does not qualify as “post truth” then what would, huh?

  16. Confused Old Misfit

    Part of the problem in many areas.
    Warning About Big Data in Science

  17. Farmer Gez

    Faine and Co have been furiously masturbating over the Pell decision all morning.

    When the entire debate on the ABC is about the Catholic Church and it’s clergy instead of the merits of a particular sexual assault case brought against a man by the State, then you know for certain that this is not about justice.

  18. Fat Tony

    1735099
    #2947232, posted on March 1, 2019 at 11:03 am

    Abuse makes you look childish

    And your fuckwittedness makes you look like a fuckwit.

    Obviously, you were one of those dickheads that wanted to drink recycled sewage water – like that clown teacher from St Mary’s.

  19. Trump walks away from a bad deal with the Norks (aka China) . Should be more of it.

    Yep. Fatty 5D mugged by reality.
    Greg Sheridan’s piece in today’s fart of the nation sums it up well.

  20. Bruce of Newcastle

    Easily fixed Twostix. Just have wymminses work for the public service, especially for Treasury, da Environment and pollie staffer pozzies.

    Public servants are often useless, incompetent and unsackable, so replacing useless, incompetent and unsackable Ken dolls with equally useless, incompetent and unsackable feminazis wouldn’t cause much impact to service efficiency. That would then be equal pay for equal uselessness.

    Also all positions at the ABC and SBS can be reserved for wymminses since they’re unwatchable anyway.

  21. Makka

    But this video of Lyonhelm in the senate is genuinely excellent and is genuinely going viral.

    Be absolutely astounded that a government department would be so aggressively political and collectively so mentally retarded.

    Thanks twostix.

    Amazing. DL nails them to the wall. There was well over a $1 million in salaries sitting at that table , plus the tens of millions in back up staff and computing power yet these stupids cows hadn’t considered looking at the HOURLY pay difference (if it even exists).

    DL was questioning their calculation methods but he also showed clearly OUR money is being wasted on there vindictive dragons out to vilify men. It’s that simple.

  22. Leo G

    One of the pillars of democracy is participation.

    Voting for representatives is democracy participation by proxy. Compulsory voting is one of the pillows of democracy.

  23. twostix

    Easily fixed Twostix. Just have wymminses work for the public service, especially for Treasury, da Environment and pollie staffer pozzies.

    Women already dominate the commonwealth public service almost 60/40.

  24. Makka

    Yep. Fatty 5D mugged by reality.

    A bit like you then, numbnuts.

  25. Cassie of Sydney

    “1735099
    #2947242, posted on March 1, 2019 at 11:12 am
    Trump walks away from a bad deal with the Norks (aka China) . Should be more of it.

    Yep. Fatty 5D mugged by reality.
    Greg Sheridan’s piece in today’s fart of the nation sums it up well.

    And you’re the stinking fart trolling this site….fuck off loser.

  26. Notafan

    What do the ones that think the Catholic Church to be some demonic force do with the Bible? Considering it was passed down through preceding ages by a Church headed by a Pope wouldn’t they be on the look out for where deceitful bastards had altered the text to their own nasty purposes?

    It is a good question ML

    My PP mentioned in passing a little while back that the Bible itself stems from Holy Tradition, wrest it from that solid foundation and you can make it say anything you like and of course people who reject the teachings of the church get hold of the Bible they do try to alter it to match their own beliefs, Luther being a prime example (not as successful as he would have liked)

    There are many devices to explain away the compilation of the Bible as inspired word of God by the
    Catholic Church, all flimsy.

    The Early Edition was complete indeed, as far as the translators considered the books canonical, but it was soon found lacking in the necessary qualities of style and English idiom. It is at times unintelligible and even nonsensical from a too close adherence to the Latin text. A revision was, therefore, found necessary and taken in hand shortly after the completion of the Early Version. The principles of the work are laid down in the prologue of the so-called Later Version. We do not know either the revisers or the exact date of the revision. John Purvey, the leader of the Lollard party, is generally assumed to have taken a large part in the work. The style and idiom of the Later Version are far superior to those of the Early, and there can be little doubt as to its popularity among the Wyclifites. But the Lollards soon introduced interpolations of a virulent character into their sacred texts; violence and anarchy set in, and the party came to be regarded as enemies of order and disturbers of society. It is small wonder that the ecclesiastical authorities soon convened in the Synod of Oxford (1408) and forbade the publication and reading of unauthorized vernacular versions of the Scriptures, restricting the permission to read the Bible in the vernacular to versions approved by the ordinary of the place, or, if the case so require, by the provincial council.

    from here

  27. johanna

    Just dropping in to the Predictable Rants site with a bit of great hard rock music history. Here is Led Zeppelin, in a tiny space for a bunch of Danish journalists, in 1979.

    Despite the media calling the Strolling Bones ‘the biggest rock and roll and in the world’ they were outsold by a factor of three by the hated by the critics, Led Zep. Sound familiar?

    I suppose that D. Trump understands that media luvvies do not equal real people.

    What I love about this clip is that it is four guys in a tiny space for some obscure Danish journalists – but you can see exactly how it turned into a monstrous megastar. There is nothing inconsistent. They just kept on doing it, and became the biggest band in the world.

    Apropos of nothing, how many Aboriginal corporations, government funded ‘business’ and so on have to go bust before anyone starts asking questions?

  28. Confused Old Misfit

    Yep. Fatty 5D mugged by reality.
    Greg Sheridan’s piece in today’s fart of the nation sums it up well.

    This from a commenter who has been upbraiding others for “childishness”
    1. School yard derogatory nicknaming.
    2. Attempt at anal humour.

  29. Infidel Tiger

    Led Zeppelin are a dullards idea of a rock band.

    AC/DC crush them on every level. Sound, songs, sales and longevity.

    AC/DC are without peer in the world of rock.

  30. C.L.

    Throughout the ordeal, not a single witness backed the accuser, a man now in his mid-30s who also, sources close to the cardinal claim, reported another Melbourne priest for abuse.

    As we suspected, a lying piece of dog shit whose hobby is faking allegations.
    No wonder VicPol liked him.

  31. C.L.

    Oprah to Address World Summit on ‘How Women Can Save the Planet’

    They can start by eating less food.

  32. twostix

    Surveying the landscape of Australian protestantism in 2019 and it’s complete and utter impotence in even beginning to deal with what’s shaping up to be a bolshevik style cultural revolution and complete rout of christianity from the public space, even a hardened protestant must begin to entertain the idea that it’s largely a complete failure and farce.

    A thousand different ‘churches’ all designed to service the diabolical cult of Me.

  33. Infidel Tiger

    Garth Godsman
    @GarthGodsman
    ·
    9m
    I find it staggering that people can’t put their blind hatred for Pell to one side, and not be concerned about the fact that you can potentially go to gaol on the basis of the uncorroborated claims of a single person. This is very dangerous. #auspol

  34. Twostix:

    But this video of Lyonhelm in the senate is genuinely excellent and is genuinely going viral.
    Be absolutely astounded that a government department would be so aggressively political and collectively so mentally retarded.

    A most excellent video, Twostix. The look on the girls faces when they realise they’ve been caught out fudging the figures is bloody priceless. I was waiting for the beplatinumed one to flutter her eyelids at Lyonhelm but the stern look she got as she started that ploy made her honest.
    Damn good show.

  35. C.L.

    Thanks, Twostix. David Leyonhjelm totally humiliates those feminist idiots.

  36. cohenite

    Odd that both harken farken and numbers turn up at the same time but who gives a rats.

    Trump has done more for black Americans than any POTUS since Lincoln. To say he is racist puts one on the same level as cohen who has an arsehole for a head.

    And Trump has rightfully called out alarmism which is the product of corrupt science starting with temperature records which have no correlation with reality.

  37. Fat Tony.

    And your fuckwittedness makes you look like a fuckwit.

    Ha ha ha ha!
    Good one Centurion!

  38. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2947144, posted on March 1, 2019 at 9:34 am

    Transgender atheletes to be allowed to compete as the other sex in the Olympics WITHOUT having gender reassignment surgery.

    Woohoo!

    I thought my chances of Olympic Gold were over!

    From this point forward I will refer to you as “a big sheila” to help with Olympic selection.

  39. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Military lawyer on theft charge

    Exclusive
    By Rory Callinan
    12:00AM March 1, 2019
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    A prominent Sydney lawyer who served as legal adviser to Australia’s special forces in Afghanistan has been charged with theft over war crimes investigation files that were allegedly published in the media.

    Australian Federal Police officer­s arrested retired major David William McBride, 55, at Sydney Airport as he sought to depart Australia to return to his new home in Europe in September last year.

    The arrest was connected to a police raid on Major McBride’s Sydney home in February last year, where AFP agents found and seized Defence documents.

    In the search warrant, sighted by The Australian, the AFP said it was looking for any information relating to ABC journalists, ­various military files and topics and the “7.30 Report” and “Afgha­n files”.

    Major McBride was charged on September 5 last year with the alleged “theft of commonwealth property” and is due to appear in the Canberra Magistrates Court on Thursday.

    The Australian understands the AFP is investigating alleg­ations that classified Defenc­e documents were provided to ABC journalists and then later publicly released on July 10 and 11, 2017.

    On July 11, 2017, the ABC’s 7.30 program released a major investiga­tion called The Afghan Files. The story was promoted as “Defence leak exposes deadly secrets­ of Australia’s special ­forces”.

    From the Oz.

  40. C.L.

    … a bit of great hard rock music history. Here is Led Zeppelin, in a tiny space for a bunch of Danish journalists, in 1979.

    Here is AC/DC at Essex University student club in 1978 in 1978.
    No rock band in history has ever been so tight. They are a machine.

  41. Confused Old Misfit

    For the climateers among us.
    Jennifer Marohasy shows how the Australian Bureau of Meteorology has twice revised earlier years’ temperatures to give the impression that today’s temperatures are relatively warmer than they are.

  42. And your fuckwittedness makes you look like a fuckwit.

    Still waiting for you to back up your assertion about secret squirrel business with some facts.
    Incidentally, recycled water is used worldwide, and has been for decades –
    Singapore (90%)
    Israel (30%)
    California (Impossible to quantify as it varies, but every day, about 57 million litres of recycled water is blended with groundwater and then pumped into the system to replenish drinking water supplies and prevent saltwater intrusion)
    London (Hampton Water Treatment Works – percentage varies)
    Texas (10% of all new supplies through reclaimed water by 2060).
    There’s plenty more….

  43. Pete of Perth

    CSIRO is going for a meander in the mardi gras. Get your merchandise here

  44. twostix

    yet these stupids cows hadn’t considered looking at the HOURLY pay difference (if it even exists).

    Don’t think for a second that they forgot to check, they did. They know that men work longer and more than women.

    Women also take more sick leave and in my experience in a dozen small companies there’s always a couple of women who are given free sick days when they run out of them because Nice White Male Bugman manager is Nice and is woke to Secret Womens Business (I.e he’s a massive beta male cuck).

    The women at that table know all of this, they want themselves and their bugwomen sisters to be paid to not work (I don’t blame them of course, the modern corporate environment is soul hollowing, particularly for women).

  45. Infidel Tiger

    Young Bros Inc. were/are the most ruthless rock n’roll gods in the history of music.

    They took/take zero prisoners.

    Amazing family.

  46. Mater

    The people advantaged by compulsory voting are the voters.
    One of the pillars of democracy is participation.

    Yeah, a real stellar line up of democracies that have benefited from this compulsory ‘participation’. The rest of the world are still clearly working on the democracy that we’ve mastered.

    Mind you, a few years of Shorten and we’ll be very suited for this list:

    Argentina
    Australia
    Belgium
    Bolivia
    Brazil
    Congo
    Costa Rica
    Dominican Republic
    Ecuador
    Egypt
    Greece
    Honduras
    Lebanon
    Luxembourg
    Mexico
    Nauru
    Panama
    Paraguay
    Peru
    Singapore
    Thailand
    Uruguay

  47. Cassie of Sydney

    “Prominent Sydney barrister Bret Walker SC is set to represent George Pell at the Court of Appeal.”

    Walker is one of the best.

  48. Tel

    And of course there is evidence of Trump racism – going back to his trying to keep blacks from renting in his Dad’s apart blocks, to taking out an ad calling for the death penality for guys who turned out to be innocent, to reported comments made in private, most recently from Cohen.

    Trump signed a statutory declaration there was no racial discrimination under his management, at the time when accusations of keeping blacks out of apartments started to pop up. Those similar accusations were hitting nearly every real estate developer simultaneously, so maybe some of them were true, but others were jumping on the political bandwagon. You might not believe Trump’s declaration but if either you or anyone else amongst the people who hate Trump (that’s a very big resource) have real proof that Trump lied on the declaration, there’s still scope for hitting him with the crime of a false declaration.

    Of course, you have no such proof, because that’s all part of the “post truth” thingy … accusation is sufficient, you never expect to follow up with evidence. Your purpose is to give people a straw to cling to so they can believe what they wanted to believe in the first place.

    The DOJ attempted to prove the case and were not able to come up with much, although they got a weak settlement out of the Trump company, with no admission of anything. Details are here.

    https://www.clearinghouse.net/detail.php?id=15342

    Trump agreed to obey the law (well duh!) and provide training for staff based on the “Equal Housing Act” so they knew the law and entered into a voluntary quota system where the intent impose a minimum of 10% officially black residency in all buildings.

    As for the guys who turned out to be innocent … you do know there were found guilty in August 1990 for rape and assault by a court and jury? You are pretending the Trump on his own declared them guilty. Actually, they had confessed to the crimes, but were much later found innocent as new evidence came to light.

    Your argument for Trump racism depends on believing that Trump was supposedly in possession of the unique ability to see 10 years into the future and find evidence that no one else knew about using DNA analysis that had not even been invented yet. Are you going to apply the same rules to the P e l l case? Of course not, leftists don’t believe that rules apply to them. Your lot couldn’t give a toss about consistency … and hence you prove my case better than I could do about “post truth” and political smear tactics. When you get into the nitty gritty none of it checks out, but that’s fine because people pretending top be angels on blogs can shovel crap faster than anyone else can debunk.

  49. Infidel Tiger

    Walker is one of the best.

    Hope so.

    In Victoria I believe only divine intervention can save him.

  50. twostix

    In a democracy if hardly anybody in the nation turns up to vote for a government, is it really the nation’s government?

    We convicts aren’t allowed find that out.

  51. Pell in gaol for kiddie fiddling, Trump fails yet again to make a deal with Kim, and Cohen makes a string of Republican senators look stupid as he implicates Trump in major crimes. What a terrible week for you lot.

  52. Stimpson J. Cat

    Transgender atheletes to be allowed to compete as the other sex in the Olympics WITHOUT having gender reassignment surgery.

    Will make no difference to the Women’s Shotput whatsoever.
    Can’t believe they didn’t do this sooner.

  53. Cassie of Sydney

    Actually, Bret Walker is the best.

  54. twostix

    “Prominent Sydney barrister Bret Walker SC is set to represent George Pell at the Court of Appeal.”

    This won’t be the first time in history NSW will act as a civilizing influence on Victoria’s mega corrupt blood thirsty lunatic governing classes.

  55. Makka

    mOron got his leftard talking points a little late today.

  56. Shy Ted

    Some years back out bush I was foreman of a jury in a historical (5 years earlier) alleged sexual assault case. Evil perp had picked young girl about 10 out of a swimming pool. Only “learned” it was sexual assault after an education class at school. Evidence was video of the police interview where she stated she had not been touched on boobs, bum, groin or genitals, merely the upper part of her thigh during the lifting process. We were in and out of court several times on legal technicalities and began to discuss what we’d herd so far – jury already pretty divided as guilty, not guilty and don’t know. The “guilty” gang would not accept the evidence as presented and became completely defensive of their positions despite being unable to say what the actual assault was. Thankfully the judge threw it out and we were all sent home. The police interview of the “victim” was very sensitive and the girl freely admitted to using cigarettes, alcohol and marijuana regularly and being voluntarily sexually active, even having been to hospital earlier in the week for a sexual health check due to unexplained bleeding. And IIRC the jury was composed of yer average outback Aussie. No bizarre hair or glasses or other outward signs of agenda and no dogmatic characters on the jury. I don’t think we would have reached agreement ever but can easily imagine the not guiltyers changing their minds just to go home.

  57. Infidel Tiger

    Pell in gaol for kiddie fiddling, Trump fails yet again to make a deal with Kim, and Cohen makes a string of Republican senators look stupid as he implicates Trump in major crimes. What a terrible week for you lot.

    Every word a lie.

    You usually get like this before a major health scare, Monty. Take it easy.

  58. twostix

    Whenever m0nty says “you lot” he’s worried.

  59. Des Deskperson

    ‘Thanks, Twostix. David Leyonhjelm totally humiliates those feminist idiots.’

    Two bits I liked:

    the agency head – probably on a base salary of $250,000 – raising the utterly irrelevant issue of people working long hours but not being productive, a point she obviously thought would be a forensic triumph

    the fact that an agency of 21 ongoing staff had to send four of their people – one fifth of their establishment and a combined annual base salary of about $900,000 – along to the hearing in order to make sure they covered all angles and yet they still all ended up looking stupid and incompetent.

  60. Pedro the Ignorant

    I note there has been some discussion above about the composition and/or identities of the jury in the Cardinal Pell travesty.

    Be very wary treading in this minefield.

    Publicly identifying a juror, even post trial, is a serious offence, and posting anything like that here could bring some serious grief to the Doomlord.

    Much as many of us would delight in taking a stockwhip to that pack of fools, don’t go there.

  61. Nelson Kidd-Players

    It’s funny how easily “Hark!” becomes analogous to “Scroll…” in one’s mind.

  62. Tel

    Here is AC/DC at Essex University student club in 1978 in 1978.
    No rock band in history has ever been so tight. They are a machine.

    When you are working with 5 notes and a basic 2/4 beat it makes it a lot easier to keep things tight.

    As for sounding like a machine … well I have machines that sound like a machine for cheap.

  63. twostix

    The Ned Kelly fiasco could only happen in Victoria, Eureka could only happen in Victoria, police shoot first ask questions later could only happen in Victoria, Lawyer X could only happen in Victoria and Pell could only happen in Victoria, M0nty could only happen in Victoria.

    It’s usually the calming influence of NSW that briefly shames them into waking up to themselves for a little while after these things.

  64. cohenite

    And there it is the trifecta with the fat little turd sliming in.

  65. Leigh Lowe

    Young Bros Inc. were/are the most ruthless rock n’roll gods in the history of music.

    They took/take zero prisoners.

    My understanding is that they totally control everything related to the band … music copyright, logos, merchandise , tour venue negotiations, the lot.
    Everything is transparent with no opportunities for a lazy click the ticket 10% for hangers-on.
    Promoters must hate their guts.

  66. Confused Old Misfit

    Actually, it’s been a good week Monty.
    The Pell verdict has exposed the progressives absolute contempt for evidence in the justicial decisions.
    POTUS has demonstrated NK’s ineptitude for rational negotiation and how pandering to the media leads inevitably to weakness.
    Cohen has actually put himself in a poorer position than he was in before indulging in this latest bit of theatre.

  67. Leigh Lowe

    Publicly identifying a juror, even post trial, is a serious offence, and posting anything like that here could bring some serious grief to the Doomlord.

    Don’t stress.
    They will identify themselves soon enough.
    The lure of ABC hero worship will be too much.

  68. calli

    Today I was granted the great privilege of standing up for George Pell in a group of very angry women who were berating him.

    It was interesting to see, as I outlined some of the shortcomings of the trial and the press coverage, the harsh eyes waver. Some even gathered courage and piped up that they agreed with me.

    It only takes a small, quiet, gentle voice to still the storm. Be encouraged, Cats.

  69. None

    Don’t be so sure twostix – the New South Wales attorney general did announce the New South Wales stribunal decisions apply to the whole world. I personally have zero and I mean zero trust of the Victorian judicial system. There are innocent men and women who are dead now because of the direct actions of the Victorian judicial system

  70. Notafan

    Did you see what platinum head said to DL

    just because someone is sitting twelve hours at their desk doesn’t mean you’re getting twelve hours of productivity out of them

    Is there a gender productivity gap that only the woman of the what about women agency know about?

    I notice she thinks everyone sits at a desk to work too

    For real she said that

    she could just as easily said

    just because someone is sitting seven hours twenty one minutes at their desk doesn’t mean you’re getting seven hours twenty one minutes hours of productivity out of them

    or

    just because someone is sitting for five hours a day s at their desk doesn’t mean you’re getting five hours of productivity out of them

    I mean check your emails, get a coffee, catch up with Jess and Kellie and oops it’s time to go home and pick little Hildegard and Rafi from occasional care

  71. twostix

    ONE FOR WHICH NO ONE WHO HAS EVER WORKED FOR THE BOM HAS EVER BLOWN THE WHISTLE ON – HOW MANY FREAKING OBVIOUS CONSPIRACIES LIKE THAT HAVE BEEN COVERED UP FOR DECADES WITH NO INSIDER EVER BLOWING THE WHISTLE? OH – JUST THIS ONE, HEY? YEAH, SURE.

    The whistle was blown with “hide the decline” Climate Gate 1 and 2 you dope

  72. cohenite

    Poodle pyne to announce his retirement. If true he should have a barracuda sub inserted up his arse; the type with the diesel battery protuberances.

  73. None

    You got it Leigh and I’m pretty sure a book is in the offing somewhere.

  74. calli

    Oh I see someone shouting up thread.

    Blowhard.

  75. None

    Nothing confused about you Misfit. You are as clear-eyed as ever.

  76. Tel

    Harken, you dodge the question. This is about what constitutes scientific methodology.

    Why does the historical temperature keep getting adjusted colder? Who is making the adjustment and based on what kind of science is a past measurement subject to tweaking? Just answer precisely those questions.

  77. Bruce of Newcastle

    Incidentally, recycled water is used worldwide, and has been for decades –
    Singapore (90%)
    Israel (30%)

    I think I’d trust Singapore and Israel just a bit more than the ALP in Queensland.
    Especially since the ALP gave us all the Trots.

  78. cohenite

    And no, the BOM is not like that – it accepts the clear consensus of detailed research that got moving seriously in the late 50’s and had concluded by the late 70’s/early 80’s that there was a real serious problem going on.

    Sure, the same BoM which when converting the F temp record to C in 1972 rounded up all fractions creating an at least .4C warming bias and even after agreeing there was a bias did nothing to correct it when the HQ network was changed to ACORN-SAT 1 in 2012.

    You’re an ignorant pus-ball with a tired spiel who is beginning to be very shrill. Keep it up.

  79. Notafan

    Okay no one is trying to identify anyone

    Only mentioned it because some aspect of the jury is apparently going to be part of the appeal

  80. Fat Tony

    1735099
    #2947277, posted on March 1, 2019 at 11:37 am
    And your fuckwittedness makes you look like a fuckwit.

    Going from memory, Singapore’s 90% recycled sewage water is used for manufacturing, not for personal consumption.
    The council claims in 2006 were like yours – everyone’s drinking it, even NASA in space.
    Actually, it was done very rarely, and NASA was trialling recycling urine/sweat only for the space station – not sure if it was too successful.

    Since you are so up to date on this, where are the major users of direct potable recycled sewage water (the system that was intended for Australia)?

  81. twostix

    I notice she thinks everyone sits at a desk to work too

    Be very clear that this whole thing is for the benefit of bourgeois women.

    Like the exclusively bourgeois suffragettes infamously wouldn’t support their maids striking (nor having the vote), the wage gap bugwomen don’t give a shit about the working class hours worked / productivity figures (male or female).

    This is all designed to get young bourgeois women into high paying fake office jobs where they can become crazy cat ladies so increasing the crazy cat lady army (which continues to wage war on the daughters of the working class who don’t want to stand in a shop 8 hours a day and instead want to be at home with their children).

  82. Leigh Lowe

    Today I was granted the great privilege of standing up for George Pell in a group of very angry women who were berating him.

    Good on you.
    I think we might be surprised at the numbers of people who are more than a little uncomfortable with the precedent this might set, quite apart from this individual case.
    Of course, there are the dougnut munchers and veterans of the 101st Airborne Spelling and Grammar Brigade who are rejoicing that victim #1 is a culture wars enemy.
    But as I tried to point out to the (cough) “decorated Viet vet” the other night, it could easily be him in the dock.
    A manipulative parent, a zealous copper and a journo looking for a Walkley and you are done, son.

  83. Snoopy

    And no, the BOM is not like that – it accepts the clear consensus of detailed research that got moving seriously in the late 50’s and had concluded by the late 70’s/early 80’s that there was a real serious problem going on.

    The temperature record is a series of careful measurements, not a consensus. You idiot.

  84. Tel

    The whistle was blown with “hide the decline” Climate Gate 1 and 2 you dope

    Very likely by an insider, although the person in question was never caught so we don’t know for sure.

  85. Infidel Tiger

    My understanding is that they totally control everything related to the band … music copyright, logos, merchandise , tour venue negotiations, the lot.
    Everything is transparent with no opportunities for a lazy click the ticket 10% for hangers-on.
    Promoters must hate their guts.

    Ruthless with members of the band too.

    Zero tolerance for anything that can derail the show.

    No sex. No drugs. Just rock n’roll.

  86. Notafan

    Besides which longer hours doesn’t necessary equal long hours

    it might just mean men work 40 hours and women 36 hours a week

    How many hours is considered fulltime? and how they turned the part time data (three times as many women as men) into FTE?

  87. Snoopy

    Brian Scott can’t sing for shit. There, I said it.

  88. the calming influence of NSW

    Ah yes, the soothing sound of urine tinkling off the tongue of a rugby league player.

    The dulcet tones of high-denomination banknotes being counted by bent coppers.

    The tranquil ambience of passenger jets flying low over Marrickville.

    The placid milieu of peak-hour Parramatta Road.

    The peaceful serenity of the Cronulla riots.

  89. Snoopy

    Brian Johnson is also shit.

  90. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hark – I’m amused that the government climatistas have taken to using models to fill in the missing data in their temperature datasets. That is now more than half of the newest data.

    So what we have happening is models with too-high CO2 climate sensitivity parameters estimating missing temperatures to give numbers which are too high. Then they turn around and validate the models to the data the models estimated. Talk about incestuous!

    Almost all the warming in the USHCN dataset is now due to model estimated data. The real temperature data shows nothing is happening.

  91. Notafan

    So true Twostix

    I remember reading Clarence Thomas’s biography (mentioned before) and he was astounded that upper middle white women of the north east corner of the US thought they and the African Americans of 50s/60s deep south were one in their sufferings.

  92. Snoopy

    Was there a day this summer when the BOM prediction for the maximum temperature was exceeded?

  93. John

    “Prominent Sydney barrister Bret Walker SC is set to represent George Pell at the Court of Appeal.”

    This won’t be the first time in history NSW will act as a civilizing influence on Victoria’s mega corrupt blood thirsty lunatic governing classes.

    Could this backfire irrespective of Walker’s reputation? Could the Victorian appeals judges be hostile that a NSW barrister is being used instead of one of their own?

  94. Notafan

    Could this backfire irrespective of Walker’s reputation? Could the Victorian appeals judges be hostile that a NSW barrister is being used instead of one of their own?

    You really though it was worth posting that comment?

  95. Infidel Tiger

    Brian Johnson is better than Bon Scott.

  96. Leigh Lowe

    Could this backfire irrespective of Walker’s reputation? Could the Victorian appeals judges be hostile that a NSW barrister is being used instead of one of their own?

    They might be looking ultimately at the High Court.

  97. Tel

    So what we have happening is models with too-high CO2 climate sensitivity parameters estimating missing temperatures to give numbers which are too high. Then they turn around and validate the models to the data the models estimated. Talk about incestuous!

    You also wonder what the selection process is for keeping some measurements and throwing away others. In medicine this would be called P Hacking and tends to be frowned upon. They are finding many “peer reviewed” medical results totally unreproducible.

    In climate science we know that some temperatures are flagged missing, but without a review process nor even a clear methodology it’s impossible to judge what the means.

  98. twostix

    The peaceful serenity of the Cronulla riots.

    The anglosphere’s finest moment in the war against terror.

    Meanwhile the children of African warlords riot through the Melbourne CBD whenever they like and you hide in your wife’s dogbox apartment playing fantasy football, reading the Huffington Post and shit posting here.

  99. Leigh Lowe

    Brian Johnson is better than Bon Scott.

    He’ll always be “the new lead singer of AC/DC” to me.

  100. Stimpson J. Cat

    Brian Johnson is better than Bon Scott.

    This is absolutely Haram.

    I am willing to concede Johnson handles his p$ss better though.

  101. Notafan

    Monty has a house, if he still own the apartment (as well as the other house) he probably prefers to be known as Slumlord Monty

  102. The anglosphere’s finest moment in the war against terror.

    At least you’re not hiding it, 26.

    Meanwhile the children of African warlords riot through the Melbourne CBD whenever they like and you hide in your wife’s dogbox apartment playing fantasy football, reading the Huffington Post and shit posting here.

    LOL I reckon my house would be worth more than yours. Also we’re about to pay off the mortgage. And I never read HuffPo. Apart from that, good post!

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Meanwhile the children of African warlords riot through the Melbourne CBD whenever they like and you hide in your wife’s dogbox apartment playing fantasy football, reading the Huffington Post and shit posting here.

    Harsh but fair, twostix.

  104. twostix

    At least you’re not hiding it, 26.

    Hiding what? That in the entire western world the only people stood up to the rape war on women that Muslims were told to kick off in 2000 were Aussies?

    Super proud. We’ll have statues to honour them shortly.

  105. Stimpson J. Cat

    LOL I reckon my house would be worth more than yours. Also we’re about to pay off the mortgage.

    Good man Mont’s.
    Now don’t ever get divorced.
    That house will be gone quicker than a box of donuts sitting on the desk next to your monitor.

  106. Infidel Tiger

    This is awesome! Men are killing it at female track events:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1101274590586851330

  107. feelthebern

    AC/DC are without peer in the world of rock.

    I would say Metallica would be a genuine peer.
    Same structure.
    Ruthless core who have one focus.

  108. Infidel Tiger

    Your house is worth less every second monty. The ponzi is over.

    Tic toc.

  109. BoM

    So let’s trust an organization that refuses to supply unadjusted raw data and their process algorithms.
    (i.e. I’ve done my homework, except I have decided not to show it to you.)

    /sarcoff

  110. Stimpson J. Cat

    This is awesome! Men are killing it at female track events:

    It’s like the Women aren’t even trying.
    Pathetic.
    An absolute disgrace.

  111. Infidel Tiger

    AC/DC would never need therapy, but Metallica are indeed very good.

  112. twostix

    I reckon my house would be worth more than yours.

    Poor M0nty.

  113. feelthebern

    If you have never been to a AC/DC gig, get to one.
    If you have never been to a Metallica gig, get to one.
    Hard to think of a another band that compares, live.
    The Foo Fighters gigs used to be awesome, but they’ve turned into pussy’s.
    Just shows you how far ahead of the pack AC/DC & Metallica are.

  114. Snoopy

    LOL I reckon my house would be worth more than yours. Also we’re about to pay off the mortgage.

    Is there a better argument for estate taxes?

  115. feelthebern

    monty, knob of the week.
    I reckon my house would be worth more than yours.

  116. feelthebern

    monty, I reckon my dick is bigger than yours.

  117. twostix

    It’s like the Women aren’t even trying.
    Pathetic.
    An absolute disgrace.

    The only way for women to beat men is for men to become like women.

    Perversely, this has always been the position of man hating lesbian feminists.

    Be careful what you wish for!

  118. Leigh Lowe

    Ruthless with members of the band too.

    Zero tolerance for anything that can derail the show.

    No sex. No drugs. Just rock n’roll.

    Ha, ha.
    I read a “heartfelt” post on FB this morning from indigenous SJW troubadour Dan Sultan about how he crashed and burned at a concert in Cairns last year, due to something or other.
    Been sober for nine months he says.
    Going back for a “make amends” concert in Cairns.
    No mention of free tickets for those dudded last time.
    So, if you are an aboriginal kid in Cairns who saved up for a ticket last year and got sfa … “Stiff shit, baby. That’s show biz!”

  119. cohenite

    Bruce of Newcastle

    #2947342, posted on March 1, 2019 at 12:18 pm

    That deplorable site does a nice summary. Who runs it?

  120. Stimpson J. Cat

    I reckon my house would be worth more than yours.

    The old Lesbian neighbors babysitters value add.
    Classic Monty.

  121. C.L.

    When you are working with 5 notes and a basic 2/4 beat it makes it a lot easier to keep things tight.

    Ninety-five percent of bands can’t do it so that’s nonsense.

    As for sounding like a machine … well I have machines that sound like a machine for cheap.

    I didn’t say they sounded like a machine.

    ?

  122. twostix

    Lesbians on one side and Muslims on the other M0nty once boasted.

    A bugman hive where real estate values can only be sustained with a million africans a year to be sure!

  123. Fat Tony

    feelthebern
    #2947375, posted on March 1, 2019 at 12:47 pm
    monty, I reckon my dick is bigger than yours.

    ftb – you could be a post-op tranny and your dick would still be bigger than monty’s….

  124. Makka

    ftb – you could be a post-op tranny and your dick would still be bigger than monty’s….

    Yes, it’s fair to question whether mOron even has one.

  125. littledozer

    When you are working with 5 notes and a basic 2/4 beat it makes it a lot easier to keep things tight.

    To do simple right is not that easy, nobody sounds like AC/DC

  126. Tel

    The ponzi is over.

    Do you think so? They haven’t even reached for the panic button yet

    I remember when we purchased a house around about the time they were throwing $900 at people, and governments were bending over to find anyone willing to borrow and prop up the collapse. When I saw how determined they were I had to buy, because I realized that no one saving money in a bank account can compete against someone printing the same money (strangely that concept was a bit new to me at the time). There were exemptions to stamp duty, there were grants, interest rates were cut sharply.

    This time around governments are not quite so enthusiastic to prop it up … they seem willing to let a bit of air out the rubber balloon, but have no doubt they could create a lot more inflation if they wanted to.

    Agree that the price of flats in the big cities has taken a massive hit. That’s probably where most of the pressure has been released. Mind you, they are still building plenty … so in someone’s mind there are still profits to be made.

  127. struth

    Good Moaning, (just)

    Quick skim back has a few laughs there.
    Everything the trolls say gets pounded by you guys.
    Awesome stuff, a good laugh.
    TDS and er, wasn’t Cohen going to be the one?
    Their saviour that would blow out the candle of their hated western culture and send us all scurrying back into their darkness?
    Who will it be next week…………………….yawn.

    Numbers believes FORCED voting is democracy.
    Well, he would, wouldn’t he.
    That always brings out the best and brightest.
    And without forcing the political dirt eaters out to vote, where would leftism get it’s votes from?
    As they well know and have stated on many occasions.
    If it wasn’t for compulsory and preferential voting, our so called representatives might have to find out what their constituents want, from fear they may not vote for anyone.

    Put simply, unless you have the right to not vote for someone you don’t want to vote for, you have no democracy.

    Victoria is a case example.
    We all say, the Victorians deserve what they are getting.
    Do they?
    How many voters in Victoria are actually Victorian and have any idea of our country or political and cultural background?
    How many immigrants came to this country from the third world and decided that Shepparton was their new paradise, and why?
    If Numbers is all for compulsory voting that’s because “compulsory” anything sits well with him.
    Except of course, compulsory military service.
    Then all of a sudden he’s a libertarian.

    Fuckwit.

  128. Confused Old Misfit

    Justin From Canada is in Very Serious Legal Trouble – Former AG Testifies Against Prime Minister…

  129. Des Deskperson

    ‘Beat me to it Des’

    Notafan, you made the point much more trenchantly than I did, with more detail on why it was such a stupid thing to say.

    The issue for me is whether her statement was simply the ad hoc response of an addled brain under pressure or whether it was included in her briefing. The latter would be particularly worrying.

  130. Confused Old Misfit

    Numbers believes FORCED voting is democracy.

    Democracy is making the effort to find, nominate and elect men and women of the caliber of Jody Wilson Raybould.
    See the link above.

  131. thefrollickingmole

    There was well over a $1 million in salaries sitting at that table , plus the tens of millions in back up staff and computing power yet these stupids cows hadn’t considered looking at the HOURLY pay difference

    When your over 1 million in salary depends on you not noticing certain things youll be surprised how many elephants in a room you can miss.

    But not their ABC!!
    Shameless swine.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-01/up-to-80-years-until-women-are-top-dog/10859232?section=business
    The research from Australian Workplace Gender Equality Agency also found the highest-paid men in all management roles in Australia were being paid, on average, at least $162,000 more than their female counterparts.

    The data, compiled and analysed by the Curtin Economics Centre, found the top 10 per cent of best-paid males in leadership roles took home a total salary of $598,745, compared to $436,369 for the best-paid women.

    4 years of study and “Ooops we missed the hours worked”….
    It would be a cold day in hell before the frankly embarrassing vid of them shown to be dishonest shits was ever shown on ABC

  132. struth

    Monty, it’s been years of you going on like this.

    How can you not see what a doodle head you are making of yourself?

    I’ll ask you one question in the hope that it smacks some fucking reality into your thick scull.

    What would be the likely reaction in the USA if the left succeeded in their corruption to take Trump down on some bullshit “Trumped up” crap.
    Answer honestly, and you’ll see that all you are doing is watching a side show to keep you lefties dumbed down until Trump has to actually leave , in 2024.
    Are you going to be held by the ears by the elite left while it continues to in a state where you can deny reality?
    That is the left’s goal, to deny reality, and to make sure you do as well.
    Think about what’s going on here.

    Be joyous.
    Trump will be the leader of the free world until 2024, so will you still be chucking a tantrum like so many ugly dikes?

  133. Percy Popinjay

    believes FORCED voting is democracy

    The staggeringly stupid dishonest collectivist piece of shit also “believes” that voluntary voting is disenfranchisement.

    The drooling embarrassing narcissistic syphilis addled old cretin isn’t worth engaging with, peoples.

    FFS, enough.

  134. Mother Lode

    ftb – you could be a post-op tranny and your dick would still be bigger than monty’s….

    Monty’s dick is 5 ft 9 in. It eats donuts and runs a fantasy football site.

  135. Fat Tony

    Mother Lode
    #2947399, posted on March 1, 2019 at 1:13 pm
    ftb – you could be a post-op tranny and your dick would still be bigger than monty’s….

    Monty’s dick is 5 ft 9 in. It eats donuts and runs a fantasy football site.

    Sorry – I was thinking “local” and you were thinking “global”.
    You’re correct, of course.

  136. feelthebern

    Monty’s dick is 5 ft 9 in. It eats donuts and runs a fantasy football site.

    Mother Lode wins the interwebs today.

  137. Percy Popinjay

    Much as many of us would delight in taking a stockwhip to that pack of fools, don’t go there.

    Yes, just accept that blatant travesties of justice are a fact of life in this monstrous mediocre shithole and nothing to be energised about and we’ll all feel so much better.

  138. Tel

    If Numbers is all for compulsory voting that’s because “compulsory” anything sits well with him. Except of course, compulsory military service. Then all of a sudden he’s a libertarian.

    Ha! Yes that’s an interesting inconsistency. You can add compulsory jury duty to that list, would you prefer a class of professional jurors or forcing Joe Random to sit through something he is supremely uninterested in?

  139. feelthebern

    monty may or may not have a penis.
    He hasn’t seen past his fat guts in years.

  140. struth

    There was well over a $1 million in salaries sitting at that table , plus the tens of millions in back up staff and computing power yet these stupids cows hadn’t considered looking at the HOURLY pay difference

    They considered it.
    They considered nit detrimental to their reason for existence and parasitical life they have been accustomed to.
    The more important thing to note is that it is government, that it is paid for by us, and it’s typical of how corrupt our nation is, now falling way behind many nations in it’s ranking.
    I am still very seriously considering New Zealand.
    The reason being is their system of government has a better chance of surviving left wing onslaught.
    I am not saying they won’t go under as well, but with lots of Hydro power, non compulsory voting, less government regulation, no stamp duties etc, less layers of government, they have a better chance.

  141. 1735099

    Numbers believes FORCED voting is democracy.

    I’ve been voting for years (except for the occasion at Canungra in 1969 when I was threatened with a charge if I left the base to do so). I’ve never been “forced”.
    I am obliged to rock up to a polling booth and have my name marked off the roll, and put the paper in the box.
    Nobody has ever checked to see if I actually voted.
    What have I missed?

  142. Tel

    The people advantaged by compulsory voting are the voters.
    One of the pillars of democracy is participation.

    You don’t in any way thing there might be something more meaningful about voluntary participation?

    How about voluntary sex vs forced sex … equally good in the scheme of things?

  143. Notafan

    Yes Des,

    IIRC I read many years ago, in a US publication, that clerical productivity was less that 50%. The What About Wymmins Agency being 0% productive must have dragged that average even lower.

    This is what happens when you have an agenda, and nothing else.

    Probably that agenda atm is to make law that women must have their super topped up (by taxpaying men) to make up for their lifestyle choices.

    We Are the Womb except when We’re Not we are the ones who make the babies but they’re only babies if we say they are so men start giving we’re lining our own nests if its truth you want you’ve come to the wrong place

  144. Confused Old Misfit

    it’s happening here too!
    POLITICS
    The moral catastrophe of Justin Trudeau
    Paul Wells: What Jody Wilson-Raybould described today is a sickeningly smug protection racket and it should make us all question what we’re willing to tolerate

  145. Snoopy

    Why does Michelle Grattan apparently believe that Australian democracy will collapse without insightful commentary from an eighty year old life member of the MEA union?

    Zali Steggall is a poster person for a batch of high profile centre-right independents contesting seats in the May election.

    FFS get back to your cats.

  146. Your house is worth less every second monty. The ponzi is over.

    Tic toc.

    Enh. Melbourne prices down 7% this year, but they are still doubled from less than 10 years ago.

    You’ve gotta live somewhere. How are prices in Perth btw?

  147. What would be the likely reaction in the USA if the left succeeded in their corruption to take Trump down on some bullshit “Trumped up” crap.

    Probably the same reaction as to when Nixon left. Don’t recall an armed insurgency, perhaps you can shed some light on what happened.

  148. Ubique

    Over 2,000 comments on a Cat forum. Is that a first?

  149. C.L.

    At least the IOC green light to trans athletes gives Michelle Obama a career lifeline.
    She can now compete and win in the men’s shot put.

  150. Lysander

    Monty’s dick is 5 ft 9 in. It eats donuts and runs a fantasy football site.

    I thought Monty was a lesbian?

  151. 1735099

    forced sex

    Going with your metaphor, being governed without the option to chose your representative could be likened to the institutionalisation of rape…….

  152. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Remember when things used to feel rickety when comments exceeded 1000?

    Perhaps it’s the NBN, or perhaps it’s just Jacques. 🙂

  153. With optional voting, what would motivate Ostrayans to stand in queue at a polling booth?

    My view: those with a gripe will get out and vote. Uniparty evangelicals would vote. The “rusted ons” would be unlikely to vote.

    The final outcome would be hard to pick, but I suspect the Uniparty would be the biggest loser.

  154. Notafan

    being governed without the option to chose your representative

    but you have the option if you have a voluntary voting system

  155. Geriatric Mayfly

    No need to test women competitors for drugs anymore. They will never win another event.

  156. Confused Old Misfit

    Nixon suffered a loss of political support and faced the near-certainty that he would be impeached and removed.
    Nixon resigned the presidency on August 9, 1974
    If Donald Trump were to be impeached and convicted and there was not proof positive, not circumstantial in any way, there would be blood on the streets.

  157. OldOzzie

    For Cat AI Enthusiasts and Cat AI Sceptics

    Watched, with my son, a Movie on Deep Mind in the UK AlphaGo, a Go Playing AI Computer 1.30.28, superb watching.

    Deep Mind have followed it up with AlphaGo Zero which has beaten AlphaGo 100 games to nil.

    It was fascinating watching Mr Lee Sedol during the game – AlphaGo then went on to compete against legendary player Mr Lee Sedol, winner of 18 world titles and widely considered to be the greatest player of the past decade.

    AlphaGo’s 4-1 victory in Seoul, South Korea, in March 2016 was watched by over 200 million people worldwide

    Like Poker Players, Chess Players, Go Players like Lee Sedol reply on “Tells’ on their human opponents, but in playing AlphaGo, the human sitting opposite him playing Go, only followed instructions from from AlphaGo, and had no idea why he was making the moves, so no “Tells”

    Fascinating to watch and read

    Enjoy Cats

  158. C.L.

    Not that it’s a defence of Trudeau but it is worth noting that the construction company the A-G wants to prosecute allegedly paid a bribe to Libyan officials. That’s just standard business procedure in the Middle East.

  159. The Beer Whisperer

    As if it would have mattered what Pell’s defence raised. They could have shown he was in Fiji sunbathing at the time and he would have still been convicted.

    Balders, that reminds me of the old Doug Mulray spoof of Mike Willessee entrapping a community worker into havonbg a heart attack by producing “evidence” that he was already dead by virtue of the fact that a photo of him didn’t have a blurred area around his chest from breathing while lying on a banana chair.

    Mulray was ahead of his time.

  160. Snoopy

    Synchronised swimming is going to be absolutely nuts.

  161. Boambee John

    monty at 1147

    What a terrible week for you lot.

    Still with the de-humanising language, definitely a fascist left characteristic.

  162. Mother Lode

    While passing Spit Junction this morning I saw some young ‘uns wearing blue T-shirts with the Liberal logo on the back and “Team Tony” on the front.

    Neat, tidy and healthy looking. Also a safe distance from the road.

    A breathtaking contrast to what I saw about a week ago on the verge along Military road which looked like Cretaceous version of those Civil War re-enactments inexplicable holding signs with anti-Abbott messages including one saying to “Get rid of Dinosaur Abbott”.

    I was more surprised when I realised only one of them was wearing a dinosaur outfit.

    They were all considerably older than ‘dinosaur’ Abbott.

  163. Makka

    On Trudeau;

    For my American and British friends: Canada’s Justin Trudeau is done. He might try to fight on; I personally think he’s too damaged. He’s irreparably damaged. Here’s what happened in a few short tweets.

    Trudeau was detonated today by his former Attorney General, Jody Wilson-Raybould, Canada’s first Aboriginal A-G. She just testified in Parliament, in meticulous detail, how Trudeau and his staff tried to get her to drop criminal charges against a corrupt company that he liked.

    She refused to bend the law for Trudeau’s cronies. But they didn’t stop. Trudeau; his chief of staff; his principal secretary; even the finance minister. They met her ten times, phoned her ten more. trying to get the charges dropped. She wouldn’t. So Trudeau fired her as A-G.

    The story leaked out earlier this month, but it was all anonymous sources. The former A-G herself didn’t say a word, saying she was bound by attorney-client privilege and cabinet confidences. She was effectively gagged; so Trudeau was the only one talking.

    Trudeau took advantage of her enforced silence to claim she supported him and everything was fine. After all, when he fired her as A-G, he appointed her to the minor post of veterans minister.

    When she heard him make that boast, she quit as veterans minister. He was shocked.

    Then suddenly Gerald Butts, Trudeau’s right hand man — his best friend since college — resigned, claiming he had done nothing wrong. Which is odd. It looked like a compromise — Butts left, so Wilson-Raybould met with the cabinet and the caucus again.

    Wilson-Raybould still didn’t say anything publicly. She hired a retired Supreme Court judge as her lawyer, to advise her on what she could say. Under pressure, the Liberal dominated Parliamentary committee invited her to testify, and Trudeau grudgingly waived some privilege.

    So today she testified. In great detail. Exactly who pressured her. Exactly how. Exactly when. She named names. Including the prime minister himself. Here’s her statement: (LINK)

    It’s against the law to pressure the Attorney General to obstruct a criminal prosecution. Here’s Canada’s Criminal Code. Section 139(2) is obstruction — it carries a 10-year prison term. (LINK)

    Last detail. Jody Wilson-Raybould’s father was an Aboriginal activist who butted heads with Justin Trudeau’s father. Here they are bantering. Bill Wilson tells Pierre Trudeau that his daughter Jody wants to be PM one day. Maybe she will be?

    Here’s a great video breakdown:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/02/28/justin-from-canada-is-in-very-serious-legal-trouble-former-ag-testifies-against-prime-minister/

  164. Confused Old Misfit

    C.L. –
    SNC-Lavelin hasalways been, is now and will continue to be as corrupt as any construction compnay outside of Russia that you might want to name.
    There is NO defense of the government’s conduct that can reasonably be offered.
    Canadian (and other) governments of all political levels and stripes have been getting away with this kind of chicanery for eons.
    Kudos to Wilson-Raybould for exposing it.

  165. Confused Old Misfit

    SNC-Lavlein was actually convicted of the bribery charge.
    No “alleged” about it.

  166. Confused Old Misfit

    Makka,

    You’re late.

  167. JC

    Stimson

    It’s a great thing because it means large NGOs like the world bank are no longer immune from lawsuits in US courts.

    That’s great.

  168. Stimpson J. Cat

    Justin Trudeau will flee to his Cuban homeland and take control.
    Calling it now.

  169. Percy Popinjay

    I’ll happily change my view on compulsory voting if we’re given a “none of the above” option (with no requirement to identify preferences, of course) on both ballot papers.

  170. Makka

    SNC-Lavelin hasalways been, is now and will continue to be as corrupt as any construction compnay outside of Russia that you might want to name.

    True enough. I’ve had dealings with them twice, in Libya (under Gaddaffi) and in sub-sahara Africa. Not only corrupt but highly incompetent with poor quality construction outcomes.

  171. Roger

    With optional voting [t]he final outcome would be hard to pick, but I suspect the Uniparty would be the biggest loser.

    Optional voting would mean the major parties would have to be much more attentive to their core base of voters, lest they simply not turn up in protest. Swinging and/or centrist voters would then be presented with a much clearer choice than presently.

  172. Makka

    I don’t always scroll up Misfit. Too bad.

  173. Roger

    Oh, and many among Labor’s vote herd would simply not bother to turn up.

    I’m struggling to see any downsides here.

  174. teamv

    Big price spike in Vic and SA forcast for 2:30pm – 7:30pm

    The Forecast LOR1 condition in the Vic region advised in AEMO Electricity Market Notice No. 67448 has been updated at 0600 hrs to the following:

    From 1600 hrs 01/03/2019 to 1800 hrs 01/03/2019.
    The forecast capacity reserve requirement is 1100 MW.
    The minimum capacity reserve available is 984 MW.

  175. Notafan

    38 degrees here, 39 in Footscray

  176. Percy Popinjay

    many among Labor’s vote herd would simply not bother to turn up

    LOL – my old man used to say that labor would never allow voluntary voting because it would mean they’d never win another election.

  177. Percy Popinjay

    That’s Footerscray, thanks.

  178. Mater

    The final outcome would be hard to pick, but I suspect the Uniparty would be the biggest loser.

    Without a doubt. Compulsory voting drags out the dregs who, having been forced off the couch and away from their game console or Televised sport, muster every ounce of their political awareness, consult their deeply held principles and lodge a vote for…….free shit!

    What really scares the ‘Progressives’ is the possibility that the draw of ‘free shit’ won’t override the laziness or complacency of a good portion of their base.

  179. Confused Old Misfit

    LOL!

    highly incompetent with poor quality construction outcomes.

    You’d almost think they were managed by the mainland Chinese!
    They didn’t build those deserted cities did they?

  180. stackja

    Percy Popinjay
    #2947449, posted on March 1, 2019 at 1:59 pm
    many among Labor’s vote herd would simply not bother to turn up

    LOL – my old man used to say that labor would never allow voluntary voting because it would mean they’d never win another election.

    ALP always have the dead who vote early and often. ALP would be more worried about voter ID.

  181. C.L.

    Like I said, paying bribes to Middle Eastern officials cannot be avoided.
    No company in the world does business there without making, er, strategic donations.
    Wilson-Raybould is no heroine. She is a left-wing lunatic who introduced the law which jails Canadians who won’t lie in their use of personal pronouns for transgender wackos.
    She is not an estimable moral arbiter and is no friend of justice and truth.

  182. So what’s wrong with somebody choosing not to partake in the farce of voting in Ostraya?

    Look at what the current system has delivered us.

  183. Oh come on

    Pell in gaol for kiddie fiddling, Trump fails yet again to make a deal with Kim, and Cohen makes a string of Republican senators look stupid as he implicates Trump in major crimes

    Never go the fool m0nty. However, his takes are useful counterindicators of reality.

  184. stackja

    Emergency Management Victoria bombshell: staff stood down as heatwave looms
    Tom Minear, Herald Sun
    7 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    Victoria’s deputy emergency management commissioner and three other senior figures have been stood down amid a bombshell probe into the inappropriate disclosure of confidential information.

    The Herald Sun can reveal the Emergency Management Victoria staff are facing allegations they have been sharing information that reached former emergency management commissioner Craig Lapsley.

    A formal internal investigation has been launched and it is understood the independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission is also looking into the matter.

    Tony Murphy, the deputy EMV commissioner and a former MFB chief officer, was stood down from his position on Thursday.

    It is understood the other staff stood down — who were seen as being close to Mr Lapsley before he was forced to resign last year — include community, communications and media general manager Natalie Staaks.

    Emergency Management Commissioner Andrew Crisp confirmed the agency was probing “matters that have recently been brought to its attention”.

    “These matters will be formally investigated and action taken as necessary,” Mr Crisp said.

    “I am unable at this time to comment further or to comment on employment and other matters relating to individual staff.”

  185. Entropy

    I would be excited by a Chrissy Pyne resignation if it wasn’t for the fact the SA libs will no doubt preselect just as big a wanker to replace him.
    Can’t we just merge it into a Central Australia Territory with NT and the ACT? All the mendicants in one place. We could just sell Tasmania to the kiwis.

  186. struth

    The people advantaged by compulsory voting are the voters.
    One of the pillars of democracy is participation.

    I’ve never been “forced”.
    I am obliged to rock up to a polling booth and have my name marked off the roll, and put the paper in the box.
    Nobody has ever checked to see if I actually voted.
    What have I missed?

    Being in the line when honesty and integrity was handed out.

    Nobody checked to see how many times you voted either, which still happens with you lot, in a compulsory voting scenario.
    The Law states you must go and get your name crossed off a list at the booth.
    How absolutely repugnant and dishonest of you to say forced voting is good for democracy while the only argument you can offer for it, is that you are not really forced.

    Check your reversing lights before you go speeding off into the darkness.

    Probably the same reaction as to when Nixon left. Don’t recall an armed insurgency, perhaps you can shed some light on what happened.

    Now Monty, reality of course isn’t your strong point.
    So let me say this to you.
    If I was to meet you 20 years ago, when leftism hadn’t grown to be such a threat to the western world, I may have been civil toward you.
    If we met now, after all this insanity and Marxism and growth of envy politics and the now open displays of anti western traitors on your side going hell for leather, it would be anything but civil.

    You take no account of the growth of leftism and the effect it has.

    Our side is wrong in not stopping it at the start (in the schools etc) and like a cancer letting it grow, but just like we did with Hitler, there is a time when, with Socialism, we can “takes it no more”.

    The Nixon era was a different world.
    Don’t kid yourselves.
    You sneer at us , calling us angry.
    You’re exactly right.
    We’re more than angry, and so is half of the United States.
    The armed half.
    All you do is come on here embarrassing yourself .
    The left won’t take down Trump, because they didn’t get the guns before a President like him came along.
    They knoiw they can’t, and they won’t.
    You are just a gullible fool to their distractions.

    Yes. Monty, the world is that plain and brutal.
    It has to be, with totalitarian leftism in the world.

  187. Has anyone got a spare 200MW in their garage?
    I can get you a great deal today.

  188. Makka

    They didn’t build those deserted cities did they?

    The worst experience is dealing with the SNC-L useless pricks that stay behind after the construction period is over. Corrupt and incompetent.

  189. Roger

    LOL – my old man used to say that labor would never allow voluntary voting because it would mean they’d never win another election.

    It’s true; academic research determined that compulsory voting increased Labor’s vote by 7-10%.

  190. I would be excited by a Chrissy Pyne resignation …

    Nooo!

    Our new subs of the “Mincing Poodle” class would have to be renamed.

  191. We could just sell Tasmania to the kiwis.

    Nope. Kiwis are not that stupid.

  192. Shy Ted

    Electrickery bill up from $456.17 in the last quarter to $590.37. 30% increase. Adjust for extra days and usage a mere 15% increase for the last quarter. Data dashboard says $352 per mwhr in SA, $68 in Qld. If only we had a giant battery in the Snowy mountains.

  193. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s true; academic research determined that compulsory voting increased Labor’s vote by 7-10%.

    Don’t have a reference, but, yes, I recall the same research.

  194. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We could just sell Tasmania to the kiwis.

    Why not lease it back to the British Crown for use as a penal colony?

  195. Delta A

    the ALP gave us all the Trots.

    Well played, Bruce!

  196. Entropy

    Percy Popinjay
    #2947441, posted on March 1, 2019 at 1:51 pm
    I’ll happily change my view on compulsory voting if we’re given a “none of the above” option (with no requirement to identify preferences, of course) on both ballot papers

    I am thinking about penciling in “Noni Theabuv” the well known Siberian ethnic libertarian.
    For legal reasons, I must recommend against anyone really doing so. I might have to face the Pell case jury.

  197. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Military lawyer on theft charge

    Exclusive
    By Rory Callinan
    12:00AM March 1, 2019

    A prominent Sydney lawyer who served as legal adviser to Australia’s special forces in Afghanistan has been charged with theft over war crimes investigation files that were allegedly published in the media.

    Strange, comments on this article have suddenly gone down the memory hole…

  198. Delta A

    Mike Willesee dead, aged 76.

  199. Confused Old Misfit

    paying bribes to Middle Eastern officials cannot be avoided.

    In Canada, for a Canadian company it is still illegal.

    Wilson-Raybould is no heroine. She is a left-wing lunatic who introduced the law which jails Canadians who won’t lie in their use of personal pronouns for transgender wackos.

    All true. It does not detract from what she did. You do not have to agree with her politics or policies to acknowledge that.

    She is not an estimable moral arbiter …

    True. No more than are you.

    … no friend of justice and truth.

    In this instance I think you are mistaken.

  200. Delta A

    Has anyone got a spare 200MW in their garage?

    No, but we have 6.4 KW solar system on the roof of our new house.

    Hoping to spare the full pain of an SA power bill.

  201. The Viktoristan government has a narrow window of opportunity to re-introduce the death penalty before the pell appeal is heard.

  202. bespoke

    Delta A
    #2947476, posted on March 1, 2019 at 2:32 pm
    Has anyone got a spare 200MW in their garage?
    No, but we have 6.4 KW solar system on the roof of our new house.
    Hoping to spare the full pain of an SA power bill.

    Prepare for deluge “sell out” 🙂 You do what have to to survive.

  203. Confused Old Misfit

    Makka
    #2947463, posted on March 1, 2019 at 2:10 pm
    I had only one exposure to SNC.
    Involved specifications for a project in Winnipeg.
    Many, many, many years ago.
    Take you out to dinner, talk it over, see how we can help.
    Fortunately because I was working about 12 hours a day dinner was of the table.
    Coffee in the company cafe had to suffice.
    A deal one could walk away from.

  204. Notafan

    If I bought a house with solar panels I would not remove them.

  205. Geriatric Mayfly

    The cash-strapped company that received WA government funds despite not meeting targets attached to a wave power project has been suspended from trading on the Australian stock exchange.

    Another pile of half drowned rust dedicated to Gaia.

  206. feelthebern

    Mike Willesee.
    Met him once.
    Decent bloke.
    Had his demons.

  207. Leigh Lowe

    I would be excited by a Chrissy Pyne resignation …

    In line with the new Liberal preselection policy, I sssume they will have to preselect another woman to take his place to maintain equilibrium.

  208. Leigh Lowe

    Makka

    #2947463, posted on March 1, 2019 at 2:10 pm

    They didn’t build those deserted cities did they?

    The worst experience is dealing with the SNC-L useless pricks that stay behind after the construction period is over. Corrupt and incompetent.

    I had some indirect exposure to SNC-L in a previous life.
    The kindest word I could use to describe it was “patchy”.

  209. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Viktoristan government has a narrow window of opportunity to re-introduce the death penalty before the pell appeal is heard.

    Walked past the Ballarat Court complex this morning. The place was looking decidedly forlorn, now that it will no longer be the centre of world attention and a landmark to jurisprudence.

  210. Percy Popinjay

    Mike Willesee

    Responsible for some of the greatest moments in Ozzie televisual j’ism.

    In his honour, we should all consume several vats of wine (among other intoxicants) and hoover a GST free birthday cake, while interviewing a trio of psychopaths and their kiddie hostages holed up in a farmhouse during a police siege.

  211. None

    A prominent Sydney lawyer who served as legal adviser to Australia’s special forces in Afghanistan has been charged with theft over war crimes investigation files that were allegedly published in the media.

    That should be ex lawyer. That should be instant disbarring.

  212. Infidel Tiger

    Mike Willesse saved us from John Hewson and for that he has my eternal gratitude.

  213. None

    Willesee bonked Germaine Greer.
    More than once.

  214. Tel

    Has anyone got a spare 200MW in their garage?
    I can get you a great deal today.

    Get a shed 40m x 40m plus a little bit extra on the sides. In each square meter put one Toyota turbo diesel Land Cruiser engine … job’s done!

    Probably makes a racket when they all get wound up at once.

  215. None

    John Howard’s character reference for Pell is magnificent. Strong. Uncompromising. I am not a fan of Howard but that certainly gets my respect. Howard is not even a Catholic.

  216. None. You can clean up my lunch on the floor.

  217. Infidel Tiger

    Willesee bonked Germaine Greer.
    More than once.

    Shorter queue who haven’t from that era.

  218. Knuckle Dragger

    Twostix, earlier:

    *Thunderous applause*

    I never thought I’d see any Parliamentary vision that would make me laugh out loud, but what did I know until today? That was superb, first rate darts on all levels.

    Of COURSE that coven of halfwits did the research on the hourly rates which were easily available to them, but the result didn’t fit the narrative so they covered it with words like ‘annualise’. It might work on your zillion cats, you semi literate harpies but not in that forum.

    The only way that vision could have been any better was if DL had demanded a sandwich from the fake platinum blonde at the end.

  219. Tel

    I’ll happily change my view on compulsory voting if we’re given a “none of the above” option …

    Write that one in yourself.

  220. Mark A

    incoherent rambler
    #2947495, posted on March 1, 2019 at 3:03 pm

    None. You can clean up my lunch on the floor.

    Why would that be?
    Surprised or what? and by what?

    I loath JH but the man has principles.

  221. None

    I notice the Age is on a concerted campaign to loosen euthanasia laws even before the Hitler Aktion T4 program becomes effective in Victoria.

    I said the guy who just got put down like a dog in Switzerland didn’t want to die and now I am convinced he was groomed into it for Philip Mengele Nitschke’s attempt to push laxer euthanasia laws onto Victoria. They jailed the stupid bitch who liked about her cancer to garner sympathy and money. Why isn’t that dead obsessed murderous ghoul Nitschke from Exit International not in jail either?

  222. Confused Old Misfit

    Mike Willesse
    Only 76
    Immanentizes a vision of one’s personal eschaton.

  223. Knuckle Dragger

    IOC announces the end of womens’ sport:

    My hat’s now in the ring to become the Olympic cruiserweight boxing champion.

    Mr Hannah Mouncey can have the heavyweight title.

  224. JC

    Rambler, let the body cool down a little.

  225. Leigh Lowe

    Makka

    #2947432, posted on March 1, 2019 at 1:46 pm

    On Trudeau;

    Justin looks pretty fuckin’ fucked.
    Without pointing fingers at SNC-L alone, these large constructors who chase business in shitholes (mainly mining and oil and gas) become very adept at the art of “influence”, and it isn’t always just brown paper bags.
    I am not saying there wasn’t a cash element to the transaction but a yuuuge part of it would of been stroking Trudeau’s monster ego, complimenting him on his vision, his compassion, his towering intellect, his soaring oratory and his dress sense.
    They would have been pissing in both pockets of his sari.
    Justin would have, of course, bought it lock, stock and barrel and declared SNC-L the sort of “trusted partner” that the Canadian taxpayer must do business with.

  226. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Captain Cook plaque used as Australia Day hotplate

    Exclusive
    David Murray
    National Crime Correspondent
    @TheMurrayD
    12:00AM March 1, 2019
    14 Comments

    A man allegedly prised a metal plaque from a Captain James Cook memorial on Australia Day and used it as a barbecue hotplate to cook a steak.

    David Stevens appeared in the Cleveland Magistrates Court on Brisbane’s bayside yesterday, charged with wilful damage and stealing for taking the plaque from North Stradbroke Island’s Point Lookout.

    Outside court Mr Stevens, who has Aboriginal heritage, said he was charged after he cooked a T-bone steak on the plaque and shared photographs on Facebook. “They’ve glorified him, made him a hero,” Mr Stevens said of Cook.

    “He’s a rOpist, murderer and genocider of the crown. I did it for my ancestors.”

    From the Oz. Anyone imagine the uproar if a group of whitefellas used a memorial plaque to, oh say, Eddie Mabo as a barbecue plate?

  227. Mark A

    incoherent rambler
    #2947505, posted on March 1, 2019 at 3:14 pm

    Mark, Willesee bonked Germaine Greer.

    Sorry I connected to the wrong post then.

    Sad, that when someone dies people first remember the trivial.
    I recall a couple myself.

  228. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2947504, posted on March 1, 2019 at 3:10 pm

    Trudeau is cooked

    After the high moral ground shit he served up to Trump, the tweets from The Great Orange One are going to be delicious.
    Two family size popcorns please.

  229. Confused Old Misfit

    The Canadian Minister of Finance, Bill Morneau, may be under some pressure to step down as well.
    Wilson-Raybould said some incriminating things about his department.
    Of course, it will be the party room that must do the knife work.
    But I would hope the Liberals are as dead electorally in Canada as the Australian Liberals here.

  230. Leigh Lowe

    incoherent rambler

    #2947505, posted on March 1, 2019 at 3:14 pm

    Mark, Willesee bonked Germaine Greer.

    JC

    #2947506, posted on March 1, 2019 at 3:15 pm

    Rambler, let the body cool down a little

    Funny.
    That’s what Germaine said.
    Without wishing to precipitate anything, how is Clive James travelling?

  231. cohenite

    Willesee bonked Germaine Greer.
    More than once.

    Impossible, the prerequisite criteria to be admitted tthrough those clappers was the ability to recite Hamlet’s To Be or Not To Be Soliloquy backwards. Willesee never mastered that.

  232. cohenite

    Anyone imagine the uproar if a group of whitefellas used a memorial plaque to, oh say, Eddie Mabo as a barbecue plate?

    I’ve been starting my fire for years using a copy of the HC Mabo Judgement.

  233. calli

    How do you know this, cohenite?

    No. On second thoughts, please don’t answer.

  234. Mark from Melbourne

    IOC announces the end of women’s sport:

    It’s time I reassessed my low opinion of the IOC. This is going to be huuge.

    WAS going to be huuge. The article is from 2016

  235. cohenite

    How do you know this, cohenite?

    I have a friend who was at Cambridge with her. Despite being a radical she was a stickler for the classics. Having to recite it backwards was her having a bet each way apparently.

  236. If Donald Trump were to be impeached and convicted and there was not proof positive, not circumstantial in any way, there would be blood on the streets.

    Yeah whatever Misfit, occupy another wildlife refuge gift shop.

  237. Leigh Lowe

    Walked past the Ballarat Court complex this morning. The place was looking decidedly forlorn, now that it will no longer be the centre of world attention and a landmark to jurisprudence.

    The main industry in town used to be gold mining.
    Now it is the maudlin self-pity industry.
    There was talk of setting up a victims support centre in the ‘rat.
    FMD, if I was a victim of abuse, that would be the last place I would go.
    Prediction … the centre will collapse in a pile of recriminations within five years about who didn’t get what.
    Still, it’s an ill wind that blows nobody any good. There’s gold in them thar hills. I hear talk of the old Counsellor’s Hope mine opening up agin, and they say they’ve struck a solid seam of colour down at the old King of Litigation diggings.

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