Monday Forum: March 4, 2018

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  1. MatrixTransform

    and he’s a brilliant interviewer

    I love it, the man’s a stone cold ninja.

    uses the speech/diction thing with scalpel precision

    that video had me laughing my arse off

  2. DrBeauGan

    Jesse came across as smarter than Jordan in that interview. Let’s say Jordan was tired.

    Both have given moral matters a lot of thought. I don’t agree with either of them, but I respect the thought that they have both put into their ideas.

  3. MatrixTransform

    spider-sense

    lol…funny bastard

  4. Black Ball

    What kind of racist moron wants to choose paintings on the basis of the skin colour of the artist?

    Possibly the same flogs who think Dr Seuss was racist along with Enid Blyton in their writings. You or I could write some absolute tosh, get it peer reviewed and receive some bullshit grant from the Yartz Council.

  5. Black Ball

    Didn’t Michaelangelo learn from Da Vinci? Or wanted to best him?

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Possibly the same flogs who think Dr Seuss was racist along with Enid Blyton in their writings.

    The same flogs who thought Biggles was racist?

  7. JC

    Didn’t Michaelangelo learn from Da Vinci? Or wanted to best him?

    The three of them, Mick, Lenny and Ralph were around at the time, but I read earlier there is no evidence Mick and Lenny met. I think Mick met Ralph though.

    Hope that helps.

  8. Black Ball

    Thanks JC, clears the discussion up! Lol.
    On a different note, this Bob Chappell murder in Tasmania is gripping viewing. I should have watched it from the start.

  9. DrBeauGan

    JC
    #2951474, posted on March 5, 2019 at 11:46 pm
    Didn’t Michaelangelo learn from Da Vinci? Or wanted to best him?

    The three of them, Mick, Lenny and Ralph were around at the time, but I read earlier there is no evidence Mick and Lenny met. I think Mick met Ralph though.

    Hope that helps.

    There’s some reason to think they didn’t like each other. Mick disliked both the other two. Jealousy may have had something to do with it.

  10. stackja

    Rita Panahi: Gender activists put female athletes in peril
    Rita Panahi, Herald Sun
    March 5, 2019 8:00pm
    Subscriber only

    In this gender fluid age where gender is seen as a social construct rather than a biological fact it’s unfashionable, indeed dangerous, to point out the inherent unfairness of women being forced to compete against transgender athletes or women with “differences in sexual development” (DSD) who can have testosterone levels similar to men.

    But Olympian Tamsyn Lewis-Manou is made of tough stuff.

    Despite seeing the nasty online mobs and activists come for tennis great Martina Navratilova and two-time Commonwealth Games gold medallist swimmer Sharron Davies, she has called out the inherent unfairness of female athletes competing against transgender women and women with internal testes.
    The 18-time Australian champion runner says she now regrets focusing on the 800m given the number of DSD or intersex athletes dominating the event.

    “If I knew then what I know now about the playing field being far from level in the women’s 800, I would have definitely looked at competing in a different event,” Lewis-Manou told the Herald Sun.

    “I have raced against the effects of testosterone and I know what benefits it produces at the back end of an 800.”

    Lewis-Manou spoke about the unfairness of female athletes missing Olympic finals or selection because “qualifying times are skewed by results from drug takers or women with internal testes” or women who were once men.

    “Now some are arguing that transgender should be allowed to compete as it’s not fair that they can’t. Have they thought about how fair it is to the other women trying to compete against them?” she asked. “The female category is protected for a reason. If it wasn’t no female would ever win a medal.

    “The top female athletes in the world can be beaten by the top 5000 to 15,000 men. We need to protect the female category for a reason.”

    While much of the debate has centred on transgender athletes, women with DSD are the focus of the International Association of Athletics Federation which has sought a ruling from the Court of Arbitration for Sport to order athletes with elevated testosterone levels to take testosterone-suppressing medication before being allowed to compete in women’s competitions.

    World and Olympic champion Caster Semenya is the most famous intersex athlete and has dominated the sport since returning to competition after a “sex verification” controversy.

    The IAAF has been labelled racist, sexist, transphobic and accused of wanting to classify Semenya as a male, but it explained last month it only wants to create a level playing field for athletes.

    When I first wrote about transgender athletes in women’s competitions I was contacted by current and former athletes aghast at what is happening in their sports but none were willing to go public.

    Lewis-Manou deserves respect for having the courage to call a spade a spade. More athletes must take a stand or the tiny but loud activist class will continue to get their way.

  11. Nob

    cohenite
    #2951396, posted on March 5, 2019 at 8:51 pm
    Move over, Adani. There’s …

    400km away is not “near” a coastline. But the media will report this ridiculous claim without question.

  12. Nob

    I have one simple question for protestors who claim they’re not against all oil and gas, but just something they heard of, like fracking, or deep water, or CSG.

    “Fair enough. What are names of the new oil and gas projects you’re in favour of?”

  13. MatrixTransform

    and Slayer.

    Slayer is definitely coming to the bbq

    because bbqs need more sarcastic bastards

  14. MatrixTransform

    and BB, because he has Lawn Bowls Intel.

    …secret bowls businex

  15. stackja

    Colorado high school wrestler forfeits state tournament match rather than wrestle girl

    Published 2 days ago

    A Colorado high school student forfeited the state tournament match rather than wrestle a girl during the match.

    Brendan Johnston, 18, a senior at the Classical Academy in Colorado Springs, Colo., forfeited his match against Jaslynn Gallegos, a senior at Skyview High in the first round of the tournament on Thursday, Feb. 21, KDVR reported. A few days later on Saturday, Feb. 23, he forfeited the match against Angel Rios, a junior at Valley High, in the third-round consolation match, ending his high school wrestling career.

    The student cited his religious and personal beliefs for forfeiting the matches.

  16. MatrixTransform

    orrite, everybody can come (not numbrs, munty or heIsPeter)

    bring a plate

    damn, that Dubliner bourbon soaked is all right.

    I may regret this….

    Good Night

  17. Black Ball

    Do we bring a plate?

  18. Steve trickler

    DrBeauGan
    #2951469, posted on March 5, 2019 at 11:41 pm

    I think it is the only interview on record where JBP was asked if he believed in God. And he said yes. He has balked from doing so ever since this interview. Noteworthy.

    How does the universe and its elements create the power of human thought, Dr? Human cognition is now a force.

    Undeniable.

    Perhaps God exists?

  19. Bruce in WA

    I think Michaelangelo was the greatest artist ever. Those magnificent sculptures Pieta and David. Then the Sistine Chapel which took close to 4 years to complete. Those things I must see.

    David is absolutely awe-inspiring. You just keep asking yourself, “How …”?

    The Sistine Chapel ceiling, now it has been cleaned (by the Japanese) is gobsmacking, too … but the place is usually so crowded you can not, literally, get your arms up from your sides, or even move. And of course, no photos allowed …

  20. Steve trickler

    Gold!

    And none can play the race card.



  21. Mark A

    Bruce in WA
    #2951486, posted on March 6, 2019 at 12:35 am

    I think Michaelangelo was the greatest artist ever. Those magnificent sculptures Pieta and David. Then the Sistine Chapel which took close to 4 years to complete.

    Pfff, my painter finished our ceiling in less than a day.
    Good job too.

  22. Bruce in WA

    Pfff, my painter finished our ceiling in less than a day.
    Good job too.

    Winner! 😀

  23. zyconoclast

    FAMILIES of French Islamic State (ISIS) fighters being held in Syria have filed a complaint with the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child against the French state for failing to bring home the jihadists’ children, their lawyers said on Thursday.

    The families, mostly grandparents, uncles and aunts, hope to force the French government to “shoulder its responsibilities and protect the children from the risks of famine and imminent death they currently face,” their lawyers Marie Dosé, Martin Pradel and William Bourdon said in a statement. Denouncing the “inaction of the state,” the lawyers stressed that the UN Committee “is not a jurisdiction in the eyes of international law and has no power of sanction” but can force a state to take “provisional measures”. The French families have repeatedly implored President Emmanuel Macron to show “humanity” and bring the children home immediately.

  24. C.L.

    The Sistine Chapel ceiling, now it has been cleaned (by the Japanese) is gobsmacking, too … but the place is usually so crowded you can not, literally, get your arms up from your sides, or even move. And of course, no photos allowed …

    It bothers me, though, that the ceiling inspired gawking, money-making and worship of Michelangelo rather than reverence for God. I’ve never liked the ceiling much, to be honest. I find it gaudy.

    The Pieta is sublime. It’s said Michelangelo later regretted the pride that caused him to sign the sash (after a visitor was heard attributing the sculpture to somebody else).

    As for David – just … how? It is incredible.

  25. zyconoclast

    Now we know where she gets those crazy eyes.

    Ocasio-Cortez’s mom moved to Florida to escape NYC’s property taxes

    The mother of soak-the-rich Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said she was forced to flee the Big Apple and move to Florida because the property taxes were so high.

    “I was paying $10,000 a year in real estate taxes up north. I’m paying $600 a year in Florida. It’s stress-free down here,” Blanca Ocasio-Cortez told the Daily Mail from her home in Eustis, a town of less than 20,000 in central Florida north of Orlando.

  26. C.L.

    Another hate crime hoax

    S.C. MAYOR SAYS ‘YELLOW STICKY SUBSTANCE’ ON HER CAR WAS SPRAYED BY VANDALS, POLICE SAY IT’S JUST POLLEN

    The perpetrators were two Melbourne archbishops wearing MAGA hats.
    Louise Milligan is on the case …

  27. Bruce in WA

    It bothers me, though, that the ceiling inspired gawking, money-making and worship of Michelangelo rather than reverence for God. I’ve never liked the ceiling much, to be honest. I find it gaudy.

    Yes, I know where you are coming from. But standing there, looking up at it, I did indeed feel a sense of reverence, of wonderment, not so much for the painting but what it was saying.

    I could never call it “gaudy”, but the colours in its latest iteration certainly do stand out. Then we need to reflect on the times and for whom it was painted …

  28. Zatara

    FAMILIES of French Islamic State (ISIS) fighters being held in Syria have filed a complaint with the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child against the French state for failing to bring home the jihadists’ children, their lawyers said on Thursday.

    Yeah? So what were they saying back when ISIS was a glorious islamic caliphate running rampant damning the west, cutting peoples heads off and tossing people off of buildings? Did they demand their children send the grand kiddies back home to France back then?

    Didn’t think so.

  29. bespoke

    Elle
    #2951423, posted on March 5, 2019 at 9:27 pm
    The cougar leaves MKR. Sad times.
    Black Ball! You watch that show?
    And other blokes here watch MAF?
    We are doomed.

    Yes! talk some sense into them.

    Me? I’m watching Dancing with the Stars.

    Sigh! Never mind.

    😉

  30. Steve trickler

    You should have a smile on your face after watching this.



  31. None

    It’s funny how so many men want to pretend their women so they can run in women’s races but you don’t get too many women pretending to be men entering men’s races. Why is that?

  32. Tom

    David Rowe (Anti-Business Daily) on the SCG Trust stoush. (Did I mention that, in addition to his Trump Derangement, Abbott Derangement, Murdoch Derangement and Pell Derangement, Rowe also has Alan Jones Derangement? That’s NSW Liars leader Michael Daley sending Jones to the SCG boundary fence over square leg.)

  33. Tom

    Some kulcha for the proles (Edvard Munch’s The Scream) as Theresa May is dragged screaming towards Brexit. Steve Bright in The Sun (London).

  34. Tom

    A.F. Branco. Karl Marx in a clown suit. Brilliant.

  35. Bruce in WA:

    The Sistine Chapel ceiling, now it has been cleaned (by the Japanese) is gobsmacking, too … but the place is usually so crowded you can not, literally, get your arms up from your sides, or even move. And of course, no photos allowed …

    Did you know that Calli put in a quote for that job?
    I reckon there was some dodgy dealing going on behind the scenes when she didn’t get it.
    Calli even had a new power head put on the Gerni for the job, you know.

  36. They’re multiplying beyond our control…
    The Express has the same journos as the DT.

    ANIMAL fans are waiting with baited breath for April the giraffe to give birth to her fifth calf online, with the baby due any moment.

  37. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    the proof lies with the Trump: Set the economy free, allow gas and oil to be produced and reduce taxes, then get rid of the CO2 rubbish and EPA interference

    Very succinct comment by Lutz on Steve Kate’s thread re the failure of Keynesian approaches.

    I’d add also reduce the diversity nonsense that separates rather than unites us.

  38. Rockdoctor

    Am increasingly getting a bit tired of this dipping into my pocket to fund pet causes, don’t get me wrong I would love them to find it but I think the Captain was wiley enough to put it where it is unlikely to be found unless come across by chance. Dick you want to find it & feel passionately about it stump up the money yourself. Especially with the appeared under-supply going markedly hiking airfares recently on some of the routes I travel on, I have enough moths flying out of my wallet due to everyone helping themselves through a handy lobbyist.

    Posted in full due to paywall that I was briefly able to dodge:

    Veteran aviator Dick Smith has used the launch of a new book on the MH370 mystery to call for airlines to introduce a small levy on fares to raise money for another search.

    Launching The Hunt for MH370 by The Australian’s Ean Higgins, Mr Smith said it was almost unbelievable that the Boeing 777-200ER remained missing almost five years after it disappeared en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

    There were 239 people on board the Malaysia Airlines flight, including six Australians, but all that has been found of the jet is a dozen or so pieces of debris.

    Mr Smith said a levy of just 10c a fare could raise as much as $350 million towards a new ocean search, given 3.5 billion people travelled by air each year.

    “I just simply can’t believe that the safety regulators around the world have said nothing about the need to find MH370,” he said.

    “I’m not at all convinced we know what happened and because of that, it is imperative we find the aircraft and the black boxes so if it was a design fault (with the aircraft) we can fix it and save lives in the future.”

    Mr Smith said if there had not been an extended search for Air France flight 447 in the Atlantic Ocean, information about why the plane crashed would remain unknown.

    “They spent the extra money and found the flight data recorder which revealed one of the flight crew held the side stick controller in the stall position,” Mr Smith said.

    “No one would’ve guessed that but now every pilot is taught not to do that.”

    Higgins said all the families he had spoken to in the course of researching and writing his book were desperate to know what happened to their loved ones and deserved answers.

    “I think it’s more a matter of will than money that’s lacking in renewing the search,” he said. “Boeing recently reported $US100 billion in sales and it could, as Airbus did for Air France 447, put up some money to fund a new hunt.

    “So could, and so should, China whose nationals accounted for two-thirds of the passengers on the aircraft.”

    The International Air Transport Association, which represents 293 airlines worldwide, was unable to support Mr Smith’s call for an airfare levy to fund a new MH370 search.

    Assistant director of corporate communications Albert Tjoeng said there was already a well established process for accident investigation, included in Inter­national Civil Aviation Organ­isation’s annex 13.

    “There is nothing in the ICAO annexes that would establish a precedent for the kind of funding mechanism being suggested, nor would IATA support such a mechanism,” Mr Tjoeng said.

    Mr Smith said that without knowing what happened to MH370 there would always be some doubt about the safety of air travel. “This situation hasn’t occurred before and we have to change that for the confidence of the airline industry,” he said.

    “Every passenger who flies now must be concerned.

  39. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Good collection today thanks, Tom. I especially loved the bulging tent of Marxist democrats, the girls who want to be girls with the bulked-up trannie in front of the race, and Big Government smoking the economy (that last one a great response to the usual Evil Rich Capitalist Cigar).

  40. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Theresa May in The Scream was pretty good too. As was Hillary running her mouth off.
    Good to see that cartoonists can be equal opportunity brutal with their imagery. Very tough.

  41. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I could never call it “gaudy”, but the colours in its latest iteration certainly do stand out. Then we need to reflect on the times and for whom it was painted …

    Yes, like all the classical ‘white’ statues that were painted. We tend to forget that only nature owned any really bright colours in past ages, and dyes replicating those weren’t always available; thus a big coloured picture or statue was a marvel to behold, whereas we live in a colour-saturated world.

  42. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “The top female athletes in the world can be beaten by the top 5000 to 15,000 men. We need to protect the female category for a reason.”

    Yep. And a woman like me could be beaten by every man on the bus.
    That’s the reality for most of us non-athletes.

  43. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I think I had better declare this thread OPEN for the day. Come on down, everyone.

  44. calli

    The three of them, Mick, Lenny and Ralph were around at the time, but I read earlier there is no evidence Mick and Lenny met. I think Mick met Ralph though.

    You forgot Donatello. 😃

    On wondering about how he brought David to life, you have to see the other pieces in the Academia. The various levels of completion tell the story.

    The story goes that most sculptors in stone did pilot holes to exact depths to stop them from taking too much off. Mick was different. He allowed the figure within the stone to reveal itself as he carved. And he had the most beautiful Carara marble to work with – pure, seamless, laid down at the beginning of the world in anticipation that it would be brought to life again aeons later.

    David is not perfect, he was designed to be seen at a distance, so his head is disproportionately large, otherwise he would look like a pin head. But it’s the expression on his face that’s remarkable – there he is, sling around his shoulder, two flattenend stones held behind his back, and death to his enemy in his eyes. You can hear the words of the boastful Philistine hanging in the air as his body prepares to fling the fatal shot.

  45. jupes

    Bloody hell. Wake up you bastards.

  46. calli

    Good morning, Lizzie.

    Good luck with all the tests today.

  47. calli

    They’re slackers, jupes. Too much port, and many…many cigars.

  48. calli

    Just look at that expression of disgust. He’s looking up, because Goliath was tall. He’s measuring the distance between himself and his foe, you can almost hear the cogs ticking.

    It’s really something.

    I visited the Sistine Chapel a few days after 9/11. It was almost empty. I had a perfect half hour to myself.

  49. jupes

    They’re slackers, jupes. Too much port, and many…many cigars.

    Good to see they’re getting their vitamins and minerals then.

  50. And who would have thought that right-wing propaganda ‘news’ outlets for the Coalition are saying that the jury got it wrong, without any evidence to support their conclusion? How dare a jury even contemplate convicting Pell, irrespective of the evidence they have heard and we have not, is their furious howl.
    Then again, perhaps Howard, Abbott and the rest of them have all done us a great favour, for they have reminded us that the politically powerful believe that a different set of rules should apply to them and their mates than to the rest of the population. If one of them should happen to fall foul of the law there must be something wrong with the process. It is certainly true to say that the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse, which ran from January 2013 to December 2017, would never have been established by any government led by Howard or Abbott.
    There’s no reason to think that Howard, while he was Prime Minister, wouldn’t have regarded it in the same manner as he regarded the establishment of the Bank Royal Commission, as ‘rank socialism’.

    Peter Henning on the Pell controversy.

  51. Baldrick

    Cheers Tom. Branco on the Marxist clown show wins.

  52. jupes

    And who would have thought that right-wing propaganda ‘news’ outlets for the Coalition are saying that the jury got it wrong, without any evidence to support their conclusion?

    You lying idiot Numbers. Pell was convicted on the uncorroborated evidence of one drug-addled witness. As you know there was plenty of other evidence to cast doubt on that evidence, so his QC was correct to note that the verdict was perverse.

    As far as I am aware the only thing more wrong than that verdict is you, you despicable turd. Not only do you lie about your service but you are have posted long rants here where you have been 100% wrong. 100%!

  53. calli

    I don’t know much about the back story to Allianz Stadium, except that it was opened in ‘88. Is it a jerry-built pos with public safety issues?

    I get why Daley would be frothing. It’s another Brereton era building that has seen better days.

    If it’s kept, and if there’s a tragedy, Daley and Rowe will be nowhere to be found of course.

  54. Mater

    Good morning Calli,
    Hope you have some vinegar handy.
    Every morning the stray comes in here, squirts his foul stench on the drapes and proceeds to flounce around waiting to get kicked.

  55. Bruce of Newcastle

    We tend to forget that only nature owned any really bright colours in past ages

    I don’t think that is true Lizzie.

    I’ve worked with many readily available minerals with bright colours. Lapis lazuli is a classic bright blue. Two which you may not have heard of are realgar (blood red and crimson) and orpiment (glowing yellow and orange). Murex purple is another one.

    Realgar and orpiment are arsenic minerals, so there were toxicity issues in using them, but most people don’t lick statues.

    The problem of course is aside from lapis lazuli these pigments aren’t stable to oxygen – so unless they are in the form of a painting in Pompeii which is protected by volcanic ash they fade relatively quickly due to oxidation.

  56. calli

    The Pell conviction and it’s instigation, conduct and subsequent commentary is worse than the Chamberlain one. That was hysteria and lots of it.

    This is political.

  57. Elle

    Thanks, Tom. A good bunch.
    Garrison has Hillary looking spot on!

  58. calli

    Mineral colour was fine applied to wood or canvas. It was mixed with a fixative and sealed. And that’s pretty much where brilliant colour ended.

    The problem with textiles was fixing the dye so that it wouldn’t fade. Various mordants were used along with the (usually vegetable) dye and they worked to a degree depending on the textile. A world of faded pinks and greens and yellows and the occasional blue on wool and linen and later, cotton.

    And then, along came a wonder from the East – silk as fine and fluid as a flowing stream and coloured like a peacock! The treasure of Cathay.

  59. Elle

    Good morning, Lizzie.

    Good luck with all the tests today.

    I second that.
    All the best, Lizzie.

  60. John Constantine

    BARNABY JOYCE TALKS DROUGHT POLICY ☀️☀️

    The Federal Government’s special envoy for drought assistance and recovery, has defended the government’s progress on drought policy.

    Barnaby Joyce was at the Wimmera Machinery Field Days yesterday to perform the official opening.

    We asked him why Australian hasn’t had a national drought policy since the exceptional circumstances system was phased out in 2012.

    “Well I tend to disagree on a bit of that,” he said, referring to the completion of the Agriculture White Paper, the creation of the Regional Investment Corporation, and the increased farm household allowance.

    “I think a so called drought policy limits your capacity to deal with the particular problems of different areas.”

    Mr Joyce said water infrastructure should be at the heart of responses to drought.

    “People say I’m pathological about it and I suppose I am. We’ve got to get more water infrastructure in place so we can get more resilience into towns,” he said.

    Mr Joyce backed calls for the Victorian Government to provide rate subsidies to drought-affected farmers.

    “That would be a substantial statement by the Victorian Government that they’re onto this and taking it seriously,” he said.

    He said there was a role for government to support good farmers in drought.

    “If you haven’t made a profit in the last 10 years, your problem is not drought, but if you’re a capable farmer, we’ve got to keep you on the land,” he said.

    Mr Joyce said climate change policy would not help farmers in drought.

    “It does not provide you one cent on your place. It might be a very long term aspiration for something that may or may not be deliverable, in the meantime we’ve got to look after the here and now,” he said.

    Barnaby disagrees openly with their abc.

  61. min

    I love Donatello ‘s David in the Bargello. The story about Michelangelo ‘s David is that a piece of marble 2 feet wide had been rejected by earlier sculptors. He spent 2 years with only 4 chisels to complete the masterpiece . He hardly slept .eat or wash. It was commissioned to be placed up high after Florence had survived a near defeat in some attack that explains the proportions.
    I was fortunate to see the Sistine chapel before all the hooha . Pews were still in there and we were by ourselves and of course the faded colours . Later visits it is horrible cramped in like sardines ,gaudy colours, I will tell you about how we escaped when I took granddaughter and D-in-Law to se it 11 year s ago .

  62. calli

    One of the problems with the new industrial dyesthat burst on the scene in the C19 was that the chemicals used damaged the textiles, some more than others. Apart from the usual suspects – bugs, light and handling – the great enemy to the conservator is within the cloth itself. I’ve seen many beautiful old quilts in galleries where some of the patches are completely missing – that particular colour has literally crumbled away.

    And a note to all the “ethically produced clothing” mob – unless you spin your own fibre and weave it yourself there is no such thing.

  63. Notafan

    Ash Wednesday numbers

    Your malice is showing

  64. jupes

    The Pell conviction and it’s instigation, conduct and subsequent commentary is worse than the Chamberlain one. That was hysteria and lots of it.

    This is political.

    There is also the not insignificant fact that the Chamberlain verdict was supported by (albeit completely false) forensic evidence. There was no corroborated evidence of any kind to support the Pell conviction.

    The jurers have a lot to answer for.

  65. min

    More about David be cause unless you know the size of the pièce of marble you cannot really appreciate this work . Our joke was and not a tube of superglue if he made a mistake.

  66. Top Ender

    Well, speaking of visiting Europe, we’re in Berlin in June, prior to one of those cruises down the rivers.

    Anyone have any recommendations for a walking tour of WWII sites in the city? There are about 20 to be found on the net, and Trip Advisor is not much help in distinguishing the best.

  67. Notafan

    There is a novena or two being said for Cardinal Pell.

    I have no doubt he has plenty of visitors.

    Plenty of hatred of the Church going round, including from people who claim to be part of it.

  68. John Constantine

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/chinas-latest-island-grab-fishing-militia-makes-move-on-sandbars-around-philippines-thitu-island/news-story/7805269e5fe270f59e7657328f0c6382

    Their yarragrad signs up to one belt one road in utter secrecy.

    We shut down australias industry to utterly depend on chicom imports.

    As long as it boosts GDP in the short term, what can go wrong of becoming a vichy satrapy of the Tyrant?.

    Comrade Maaaaates?.

  69. Eyrie

    Steve trickler: “How does the universe and its elements create the power of human thought, Dr?”
    Emergent properties. i.e things that happen that cannot be predicted from the known properties of the constituents.
    I have a feeling this simply means our understanding of the universe is as yet far too shallow.

  70. jupes

    Anyone have any recommendations for a walking tour of WWII sites in the city?

    We were there about six years ago and did a bike tour. The good thing about it was that it covered not just WW2 sites but also cold war sites. The bad thing was that it was snowing in late April.

    Fuck it was cold.

  71. John Constantine

    Coming up to autumn cropping season and the Queensland floods have taken out two hundred kilometers of railway, connecting the phosphate hill mine to end users.

    All import dependent this season for fertiliser.

  72. calli

    Yes, min. It’s a marvel too.

    There was a TV dramatisation of Donatello making it a few years ago. It was the first bronze cast in this way since antiquity. I always wondered about that hat though.

  73. Notafan

    There wasn’t even a crime until vicpol starting trawling for them with an offer of a big bag of loot and much stroking of egos.
    .

  74. DrBeauGan

    Steve trickler
    #2951485, posted on March 6, 2019 at 12:17 am
    DrBeauGan
    #2951469, posted on March 5, 2019 at 11:41 pm

    I think it is the only interview on record where JBP was asked if he believed in God. And he said yes. He has balked from doing so ever since this interview. Noteworthy.

    How does the universe and its elements create the power of human thought, Dr? Human cognition is now a force.

    Undeniable.

    Perhaps God exists?

    The universe is undeniably an amazing place, Steve, it astonishes me that a machine can do calculations, for example. But they can. I have the Hipercalc app on my phone and it can calculate the value of i^-i, where i=√-1. In other words it can calculate with complex numbers. I bet you couldn’t do that.

    Of course, the machine has to be told how to do it, but then, so do people.

    This is amazing stuff, but I don’t see how throwing God into the mix helps.

  75. dover_beach

    And who would have thought that right-wing propaganda ‘news’ outlets for the Coalition are saying that the jury got it wrong, without any evidence to support their conclusion?

    LOL. They have pointed to plenty of evidence from the exculpatory testimony. Henning must be blind or a tendentious clown.

  76. John64

    The listening highlight on TheirABC radio this morning was an interview by Sabra Lane with a learned perfesser who sits on some UN committee.

    Apparently Brexit was caused by climate change. I kid you not.

    It’s becoming harder and harder to mock TheirABC as it continues to parody itself.

  77. stackja

    2GB – ALP wants easier abortion.

  78. mh

    A theme becoming very familiar

    The ‘tech millionaire’ behind the socialist: Chief of staff who boosted AOC made riches in Silicon Valley

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/the-tech-millionaire-behind-the-socialist-chief-of-staff-who-boosted-ocasio-cortez-to-power-made-riches-in-silicon-valley

  79. Bruce of Newcastle

    Apparently Brexit was caused by climate change.

    Climate change causes everything!

    Meanwhile, in other climate news, did you know climate change is causing an increase in kidney disease, because climate change is the all powerful force that can do everything. It’s amazing Captain Climate Change isn’t a Marvel Universe character. It’s more powerful than Kronos or the dark matter that holds the universe together. (Until climate change destroys the universe of course.)

    M0nty can now blame his kidney stones on greenhouse gases. Maybe he should sue an oil company for damages.

  80. Graham Edwards’ memoir will be a must-read.

    Great man, and his description of Wilson Tuckey is a classic –

    Genial WA Labor MP Graham Edwards, a disabled Vietnam veteran well respected on both sides of the chamber, says that Tuckey is the only MP in Parliament to whom he will not speak.

    “Mate, I think he’s a disgrace,” Edwards says. “As far as I’m concerned, he’s just a bloody big coward. Anyone who makes a name for himself on the basis of having someone else hold a person down while you hit them is, in my books, a dingo.

  81. Snoopy

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison is expected to visit Christmas Island today and announce it is where asylum seekers currently on Manus Island and Nauru who are deemed “a risk” to Australia will go if they apply for a medical transfer.

    Presumably that will be all of them? If they qualified to be here, they would be here already.

  82. Eyrie

    No Labor MPs are great. They stay in a party of k___e f_____s and communists.

  83. Mother Lode

    Now some are arguing that transgender should be allowed to compete as it’s not fair that they can’t.

    This is where we are now.

    What comprised ‘fair’ was once something, if not universally agreed upon (and therefore went without saying) or something that could shown to be fair – it sat at the end of a sort of equation.

    Now fair is used as a way to avoid explaining anything.

    When Labor talks about a ‘fair share’ they invariably mean take the extra that the industrious has worked harder for and give to someone who has less because they work less.

    Or that someone who made a decision hoping to come out ahead and instead they lost out, then blame someone else and hold them liable to relieve the someone from the consequences of their gamble – like those people whinging that the bank should not have loaned them the money for which they applied to buy investment properties.

  84. Cactus

    Top Ender – Berlin is one of my favourite cities to visit (Prague, NY, New Orleans being the others). I think for the walking tours we did 1) WW2 one, 2) a Cold War one and a 3) bar crawl – I was 22 at the time. I think the net wont really shed light on the best tour, nor someones recommendation as they are generally run by history students that might only do it for a few months for tips and beer money. You will probably know more about some of the sites than them – I would go with a list of things you want to see and make sure on the day you will go past them. Generally there are a whole bunch of tours leaving from the Brandenburg Gate.

    Other things to do? Make sure you go to the Stasi museum. Bone chilling that is. I would also recommend the Pergomon museum. Ok – maybe I was ignorant – but I did not expect to see a full blown Greek Temple – nor one of the Gates of Babylon taken apart brick by brick and rebuilt in Germany. Stunning.

    The nightlife if you are up for it is crazy. That’s what happens with a city of students and public servants where no one has anything to do the next day.

    If there is time for it – you can go see Hertha Berlin soccer play. They play in the 1936 Olympic Stadium – one of the few remaining relics of the regimes architecture.

  85. 1735099

    Prime Minister Scott Mossison is expected to visit Christmas Island today.

    Great. Couldn’t think of a better candidate for indefinite detention.

  86. Snoopy

    TheirABC Breakfast runs a long clip of Bill Shorten up on his hind legs doing his best Hanrahan impression. Mr Chiquita Cleanevent displays world-class chutzpah bemoaning the loss of penalty rates and the casualisation of the workforce.

  87. Bruce of Newcastle

    Disaster strikes Cape Cod.

    There’s a new drug crisis on Cape Cod and the Islands, and its victims may come as a surprise. “He was so stoned, it was terrible,” said Linda McCann, of Orleans, about 12-year-old Brahms. Brahms is a minipoodle.

    Poodle pot is now a thing.

    ‘Pot dogs’ a growing concern for pet owners

  88. Shy Ted

    Why are you cats talking about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? And talking about cartoon characters, Dr Anne Summers at the National press Club today – The Politics of Women’s Representation. So my question is, facelift or just botox?

  89. calli

    Cow economics.

    I liked the Venture Capital Cows.

  90. John Constantine

    The incoming shorten government will be doing the legislation on the abuse compensation scheme.

    Only one of the several men I know that were abused, from several small Victorian towns has so far come forward and made a claim.

    The billion dollar cost to the church is only a guesstimate. If only somebody had sat down with the abusers and worked through school yearbook photos to make a list of the victims from first sources.

    My question is along the lines of why the exclusive self appointed secret enablers of the abusers are not sued for their roles in ‘going around to see’ the widowed mothers of abused boys and threaten them into silence?.

    Numbers of wealthy exclusive men have personally benefited from the system that made poor Catholics of no consequence voiceless.

    Why bankrupt Catholic dioceses and leave the millionaires that enabled the disaster to strut free?.

    Comrades.

  91. C.L.

    Pell’s accuser’s name will eventually come out.
    Then his record of fantastic allegations against others, the medical record pointing to severe mental derangement, the criminal record. I wouldn’t be in the least bit surprised if he’s a child molester.

  92. Snoopy

    Anyone who makes a name for himself on the basis of having someone else hold a person down while you hit them is, in my books, a dingo.

    Quite so. That sort of shit should be performed by a paid stand over merchant. I’m sure Peter Baldwin would agree.

  93. Helen

    MV just caught up with the news that your beloved has come to the end of her road in this earth. But it is not the end of yours, and you have all your memories, and the living evidence of your love together still here. And you hold in your heart, your love for her and now, her love for you. There are hard days ahead for you but one day, you will laugh again, and you will feel joy again. Until then, just go with the flow.

    When Captains’s first beloved died from cancer, he made the most beautiful memorials, little bookmarks with pictures of her as a child, as when he first met her, as a proud achiever in later life, and his few words with each picture were from his heart. It was something useful that people could take away with them, a memorial of the measure of their love and his respect for her as his partner in their life.

    You are the memory keeper now, MV, some will remain in your heart forever, others can be shared. God Bles you.

  94. calli

    Ted, Griffith Uni last year.

    She’s seventy four. I look at my happy, kindly grannie-pals of the same age and there’s zero comparison. That’s where a lifetime of activism gets you.

  95. C.L.

    Remember the media’s – and especially the ABC’s – worshipful respect for David Ridsdale?
    Remember how they backed him to the hilt over his ‘bribery’ charges against Pell?
    Then it was revealed David Ridsdale was a convicted child kidnapper and rapist.
    Heard from Dave lately?

  96. C.L.

    Remember the media’s – and especially the ABC’s – worshipful respect for David Ridsdale?
    Remember how they backed him to the hilt over his ‘bribery’ charges against Pell?
    Then it was revealed David Ridsdale was a convicted child kidnapper and rap1st.
    Heard from Dave lately?

  97. DrBeauGan

    calli
    #2951587, posted on March 6, 2019 at 9:03 am
    Cow economics.

    I liked the Venture Capital Cows.

    I liked the Irish corporation, Calli. Thanks for that, I am still giggling.

  98. stackja

    C.L.
    #2951589, posted on March 6, 2019 at 9:08 am

    In the meantime, the allegations organisers hope Pell will be dead and buried and the Catholic Church bankrupt. And the MSM don’t like ‘old news.’

  99. Anthony

    1735099
    #2951583, posted on March 6, 2019 at 8:58 am
    Prime Minister Scott Mossison is expected to visit Christmas Island today.

    Great. Couldn’t think of a better candidate for indefinite detention.

    Oh ye of little intellect. Everyone else in Australia can think of a better candidate than Mossison whoever he or she is.

  100. struth

    Good Moaning.

    There are some good comments on Steve Kate’s thread, and from people who don’t usually comment.
    Great to see.

    Wish Hairy good luck from us, Lizzie.

  101. Leigh Lowe

    I have been reading all the Renaissance art posts aloud in my best Sister Wendy voice.
    Mrs L now thinks I have early onset dementia.

  102. JC

    Numan!

    Sam Newman has caused a social media storm with a “disgusting and damaging” video where he dressed in drag and made a distasteful joke about “transitioning”.

    The now deleted video was posted on Newman’s Twitter account alongside journalist Mike Sheahan and former St Kilda coach Grant Thomas.

    Newman was wearing heavy make-up, a white hat and a scarf.

    “I think I’ve run my race as an older male, and I’m thinking of transitioning,” the 73-year-old said.

    “I think I could feel comforted by being an older female, and it’ll work well because my partner is thinking of turning herself into a boy. It doesn’t change we’re still man and woman.

    Sheahan asked “are you going to the Olympics?”

    Newman replied: “I’m going to clean up on world titles as a woman, an older woman.”

    https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/sam-newman-slammed-for-disgusting-and-damaging-video/news-story/cbc28d045b6080493fe0bb121b4728fa

  103. Ivan Denisovich

    LOL. They have pointed to plenty of evidence from the exculpatory testimony. Henning must be blind or a tendentious clown.

    Henning would undoubtedly see Pe ll as a theological foe. Check out this long, green sermon:

    http://www.tapvision.info/node/554

  104. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    8m
    “(Crooked) Hillary Clinton confirms she will not run in 2020, rules out a third bid for White House.” Aw-shucks, does that mean I won’t get to run against her again? She will be sorely missed!

  105. MatrixTransform

    2GB – ALP wants easier abortion.

    They’d better hurry. Billy Boy should start crowning around early may

  106. Boambee John

    Perhaps those who have seen Michelangelo’sDavid up close can clarify, but in the photos I have seen it appears that that nice J oo ish boy David has a foreskin?

  107. Geriatric Mayfly

    BoN mentioned mineral dyes somewhere above including lapis lazuli, one of the most expensive pigments used by the old masters. The acreage of blue robes in a painting usually indicated the wealth of the subject or of those who commissioned it. A half portrait with lapis blue, or a full length job with a blue gown would be a pre-consideration. The Virgin of course, always merited the full treatment. No short cuts there.

  108. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #2951592, posted on March 6, 2019 at 9:10 am

    Ted, Griffith Uni last year.

    She’s seventy four. I look at my happy, kindly grannie-pals of the same age and there’s zero comparison. That’s where a lifetime of activism gets you.

    I used to cackle at Hendo’s “cradle snatcher” references to the much younger partner, Chip Rolly.
    Things like “Chip playing with the saucepan lids under the kitchen sink”.

  109. dover_beach

    Sam Newman has caused a social media storm with a “disgusting and damaging” video where he dressed in drag and made a distasteful joke about “transitioning”.

    news.com.au is a news site by and for bugmen.

  110. MatrixTransform

    She’s seventy four

    aw geez … and to think it was only 10yr ago that I recognized that woman (one of EX’s heroes) in a restaurant and she though she was a hottie and was giving me the goo-goo eyes.

  111. Boambee John

    From Numbers at 0727

    Then again, perhaps Howard, Abbott and the rest of them have all done us a great favour, for they have reminded us that the politically powerful believe that a different set of rules should apply to them and their mates than to the rest of the population. If one of them should happen to fall foul of the law there must be something wrong with the process.

    But enough about Short Willie’s [email protected] allegation and the Red Shirts case.

  112. lotocoti

    How long before Hadley goes full Hetty Johnston and demands the defence witnesses be charged with perjury?

  113. Baldrick

    Prime Minister Scott Mossison is expected to visit Christmas Island today.

    … and when TheirABC eventually trots out Christmas Island Mayor Gordon Thomson, remember this …
    “(Gordon) a former Communist and now an ALP member … has always opposed the detention centre.”

  114. Rebel with cause

    Newman is a master troll.

  115. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But enough about Short Willie’s [email protected] allegation and the Red Shirts case.

    Enough, also, of the Vicpol investigation of Julia Gilliard, over the AWU racket.

  116. DrBeauGan

    Rebel with cause
    #2951599, posted on March 6, 2019 at 9:19 am
    Sam Newman offending the Offendinati again.

    I thought he was quite funny. Why trannies should be sacred I’ve never been able to understand.

    Atheists aren’t. You all pick on the few atheists here. I should demand that us atheists should be covered by the hate speech legislation.

    There is, alas, the dreadful possibility that the lefties would do it.

  117. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Medivac ‘threats’ face top security

    Ben Packham
    Political Reporter
    Paige Taylor
    WA Bureau Chief
    @paigeataylor
    6:15AM March 6, 2019
    75 Comments

    Nearly 60 refugees considered to be threats to community safety — including an alleged murderer, accused pOOdophiles and terrorist sympathisers — will be placed in high-security detention on Christmas Island if they are medically evacuated from Papua New Guinea and Nauru under new Labor-backed laws.

    Scott Morrison will announce during a trip to Christmas Island today that 57 men who are eligible for medical evacuation but still considered dangerous will be locked up in the island’s North West Point detention centre if they are approved for medical transfer.

    The facility is the most secure of the three detention centres on Christmas Island that have been reopened to accept medical ­evacuees under the Labor-backed bill forced through parliament against the government’s wishes last month.

    The medivac bill, which was supported by Labor, the Greens and most of the crossbench, has left the government unable to block the transfer of refugees and ­asylum-seekers who are considered to be dangerous but are not ­subject to an adverse ASIO ­assessment and have not been sentenced to more than 12 months’ imprisonment.

    “Advice from security and ­intelligence agencies indicates a large number of single male transferees living on Manus ­Island and Nauru are preparing to use the loopholes in Labor’s medivac bill to come to ­Australia,” the Prime Minister said yesterday.

    “We can’t have those ­suspected of violence, sexual crimes and abuse, including against children, to be walking the streets in Australia, as Bill Shorten would have them do.

    “People with character and behavioural concerns will be held at the North West Point facility.”

    Labor continues to dispute the need to reopen Christmas Island. A senior source said yesterday that Department of Home Affairs and ASIO officials did not raise the prospect with the Opposition Leader at his February 10 sec­urity briefing on the medivac bill.

    Those facing high-security detention on Christmas Island include: an Iranian man allegedly charged with murder in a foreign country; a Pakistani man arrested offshore for rOping a child; and a Myanmar man who transferred more than a $1 million from Nauru to Australia.

    Declassified security advice also lists as eligible for transfer: an Afghan man accused of conducting a relationship with a minor overseas; a Pakistani man with ­alleged Taliban links who is ­accused of planning terrorism in Australia; and an alleged Iranian drug dealer.

    From the Oz. Just the sort of sterling characters that should be allowed into this country, what’s the problem?

  118. But enough about Short Willie’s [email protected] allegation and the Red Shirts case.
    Enough, also, of the Vicpol investigation of Julia Gilliard, over the AWU racket.

    Lot’s of “Whatabouts” doing the rounds today.
    Reminds me of the Real IRA.

  119. JMH

    Newman is a master troll.

    Yes and his interview on Melboiurne radio yesterday morning was hilarious.

  120. Geriatric Mayfly

    Nearly 60 refugees considered to be threats to community safety — including an alleged murderer, accused pOOdophiles and terrorist sympathisers —

    And in no time they will be up on the roof, on a hunger strike, sewing their lips together, wrecking the place, whichever Rintoul and his mob suggest might get the most traction in the news cycle.

  121. mh

    Perhaps those who have seen Michelangelo’sDavid up close can clarify, but in the photos I have seen it appears that that nice J oo ish boy David has a foreskin?

    Maybe that was the Surfers Paradise version.

  122. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Anyone have any recommendations for a walking tour of WWII sites in the city?

    Top Ender, without looking it up, Rick Steve’s from the USA does travel books and tours with an emphasis on avoiding the well-trodden route and picking out the hidden gems. I’ve found his suggestions to be good, and for Berlin, he may have even devised a self-guided walking tour, or at least a list if what matters. Start with his website and perhaps track down his guidebooks, either via your local library or by purchasing.

  123. Mark:
    ref: Circumcision of Allied Axis Troops in North Africa Campaigns.
    I am unable to get access to primary source material – i.e. Military/Field Hospital units Admission summaries.
    Therefore I withdraw the comment and will be more diligent with quotes in the future.

  124. Eyrie

    Can’t they send the reffos the Christmas Island on a RAAF C17? Open the ramp and go into a steep climb at full power.

  125. Zatara

    Anyone have any recommendations for a walking tour of WWII sites in the city?

    To me one of the most stunning artifacts of WWII in Berlin is the ruin of the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church.

    It’s maybe 1/2 km from the Zoologister Garten rail/subway station and a good spot to enter the Tiergarten from.

    Back in the 80s I found myself sitting in that station waiting for my train and noticed a couple of old hausfraen with their shopping bags giving me the serious stink-eye. Upon reflection, wearing a military haircut, an issue leather bomber jacket, and openly reading a history of the strategic bombing campaign in Europe with a picture of a B-17 dropping a string of bombs on the cover might not have been very sensitive of me.

  126. Nelson Kidd-Players

    All right, now I’m on a computer, not a phone.

    Top Ender, start here.

    And, as I suspected, he’s devised and put together a walking tour itinerary. Either in the book or free audio download!

  127. dover_beach

    Pointing out the lack of a consistent standard is a ‘Whatabout’?

  128. Mother Lode

    Anyone have any recommendations for a walking tour of WWII sites in the city?

    I think you get more of the real experience by running from doorway to doorway keeping your head down and holding your most valuable possessions in a small suitcase.

  129. Boambee John

    Numbers at 1002

    Lot’s of “Whatabouts” doing the rounds today.
    Reminds me of the Real IRA.

    So says he who raised the issue. Once again we see classic leftist (or socialist, since Numbers claims to be such) projection. You can be quite confident that whatever a leftie, either of the communist or fascist variety, accuses a non-lefty of, the left as a collective has already perpretated.

    PS, I think that should be “lots” in the plural, rather than the possessive?

  130. DrBeauGan

    I was sitting outside smoking and I saw one of my strelitzia spikes open before my eyes. Naycha in the raw.

    It’s an amazing world.

  131. Nelson Kidd-Players

    One more: Rick Steves’ latest-edition Berlin guidebook is hot off the press.

  132. C.L.

    Ridsdale was the ABC’s unimpeachable, unquestionable Absolute Moral Authority.
    He was also the caravan leader for child abuse tourists – the people outside courts and commissions. He even led the group that went to Rome that time.
    The ABC interviewed him a hundred times and nobody – repeat, nobody – could doubt him.

    Then it emerged that he once kidnapped a boy, drove him into the bush and sexually assaulted him – a staggeringly serious sexual crime for which he was convicted.

    Victoria Police knew about this all along but kept quiet about it.

    Don’t hear from Dave no more.

  133. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Upon reflection, wearing a military haircut, an issue leather bomber jacket, and openly reading a history of the strategic bombing campaign in Europe with a picture of a B-17 dropping a string of bombs on the cover might not have been very sensitive of me.

    Traveling by train from Arnhem to Frankfurt, a few years ago, and was reading an account of the “Great Escape”, when the door at the end of the compartment flew open, and there was a shout of “Achtung! Your tickets you will be showing!”

    “This is where they find out my papers are fake, and hand me over to the Gestapo!”

  134. C.L.

    Trump sad:

    Donald J. [email protected]

    “(Crooked) Hillary Clinton confirms she will not run in 2020, rules out a third bid for White House.” Aw-shucks, does that mean I won’t get to run against her again? She will be sorely missed!

  135. Zatara

    Top Ender, not Berlin specific but if you are doing any of the rest of Europe I found this book an excellent guide for some sites and suggested tours.

    The March to Victory: A Guide to World War II Battles and Battlefields from London to the Rhine

    A bit dated now but as you would know, history can be that way.

  136. C.L.

    Sam Newman has caused a social media storm with a “disgusting and damaging” video where he dressed in drag and made a distasteful joke about “transitioning”.

    This is what young “journalists” do now. Read Twitter all day waiting for a “storm” to report as news – even though nobody in the real world cares.

  137. Harlequin Decline

    Eyrie
    #2951564, posted on March 6, 2019 at 8:12 am
    ….
    I have a feeling this simply means our understanding of the universe is as yet far too shallow.

    Scott Adam’s Dilbert has an answer.

  138. Overburdened

    It was always known that when all the illegal immigrants were sorted out what would be left would be a cohort of dangerous people.
    This would explain a particular structure constructed on a Pacific island for which there is no necessity to cater for the local population.
    Relatively few people have had direct interaction with the issue, and the drawing of comparisons with the H….st is dishonest. Bit like the Great Mediscare Hoax- cynical and utterly shameless.
    Those that toe the party line against the Prime Minister and the attempt to hold back a slow motion invasion which will pick up pace exponentially if the current regime cracks or is dismantled should go and find out first hand.
    Naturally, it is part of the collective madness that facts will not sway their opinion, or else they believe somehow their virtue signaling will somehow allow them to remain unaffected by the changes to the Country.

  139. thefrollickingmole

    “Mate, I think he’s a disgrace,” Edwards says. “As far as I’m concerned, he’s just a bloody big coward. Anyone who makes a name for himself on the basis of having someone else hold a person down while you hit them is, in my books, a dingo.

    Penny Easton could not be reached for comment.

    Bear in mind the slag responsible was elected labour Federal President.

    Them and us:
    Sometimes I think that we in Australia are no better than the Nigerian leaders that we have pointed fingers at so fiercely in the last few days. Some time ago a female lawyer, Penny Easton, committed suicide in Perth after a false report was tabled under the direction of the then Premier and now Labor Health Minister, Carmen Lawrence. The report reflected very badly on this innocent woman who had gone through a bitter property settlement in the Family Court where matters are not, by law, to be publicised. But the law doesn’t count for politicians and is irrelevant in State Parliament where you can say what you like under Parliamentary priviledge and never be sued irrespective of the truth or the damage you cause to innocent people. You see the document was also supposed to reflect badly on Liberal leader Richard Court – now Premier of Western Australia. but the scam backfired when its credibility was shown to be lacking.
    A Royal Commission was appointed after Senior Ministers in Carmen’s government at the time revealed in April this year that then Premier Carmen Lawrence had lied in Parliament when she had previously disputed in Parliament any knowledge of the planned tabling prior to the Family Court document being made public by her ministers.
    Our Labor Prime Minister, Paul Keating, immediately labelled the Commission a “political witch hunt” and Carmen Lawrence under the claim of “Parliamentary Priveledge” tried to have the Commission closed down while disputing her knowledge of the document or the intent to table it before the fateful events took place. Oh, and the tax payer footed her Au$1 million legal bill. When this failed she claimed in a radio interview before the Commission started that she might be mistaken as her recollection of her knowledge of the exact timing in which she became aware of the Family Court document was not too clear.
    During the Commission it became obvious that the Government shredders of the day had done their job very, very well and no written record could be found so it became a case of many Labor ministers of the day claiming under oath that Carmen Lawrence had approved the tabling of the Family Court document in Parliament. When Carmen Lawrence gave evidence before the Commission she had, all of a sudden, very clear recollections that discussions with her ministers had only taken place after the tabling and the subsequent suicide committed by Penny Easton. Of course all her ministers of the day were mistaken.
    When the Royal Commission’s findings were tabled by Richard Court yesterday and it came to the clear conclusion that Carmen Lawrence had been less than truthful to the Commission, she called it a political witch hunt while not disputing the accuracy of its findings. Prime Minister Paul Keating scoffed at the credibility of the Commissioner who is a highly respected judge.
    Where does that leave a civilised nation like Australia – does the law mean anything? Are politicians above the law? Are tax payers there to pick up their legal bills? Will we ever know? Sadly I doubt it.

  140. Overburdened

    While I’m at it, the risk of New Zealand going rogue is IMO the only reason Oz puts up with their shit about the repatriation of NZ criminals, particularly regarding the fact that New Zealand is a drain on Oz in the first instance.
    NZ is not in itself any threat to stability in the region, but could become a base for other players with big plans.
    Combine that with the enemies within and Oz has a bleak future.

  141. Knuckle Dragger

    Wow.

    In just a couple of days the weapons-grade retard has claimed expertise in foreign affairs, domestic policy, terrorism threat management doctrine, ecclesiastical law AND the Real IRA.

    And been proven wrong, on a Biblical scale, each time. Followed by either epic goalpost shifting or a (sadly) temporary sulk.

    How many times did the RUC and the Poms ‘wait out’ IRA terrorists, Bob? Oh, none.

    You, my dear crayon-eater, make testpattern look like an intellectual giant.

  142. Leigh Lowe

    aw geez … and to think it was only 10yr ago that I recognized that woman (one of EX’s heroes) in a restaurant and she though she was a hottie and was giving me the goo-goo eyes.

    Time to take the guide dog for a walk.

  143. Leigh Lowe

    Sam Newman has caused a social media storm …

    Which we now know to mean “the accounting lecturer from Enid Blyton University has the morning off”.

  144. MatrixTransform

    my guide dog only has one-eye

  145. How many times did the RUC and the Poms ‘wait out’ IRA terrorists, Bob? Oh, none.

    More verballing.
    Perhaps you should take the time to scroll back and read before you post.
    Or maybe learn some basic reading comprehension skills.

  146. Penny Easton could not be reached for comment.

    Another Whatabout that has nothing at all to do with what I posted about Tuckey.
    It’s quite amusing….

  147. stackja

    thefrollickingmole
    #2951653, posted on March 6, 2019 at 10:46 am

    Yes, Lawrence of Amnesia.

  148. Good luck to any caller trying to express doubts about Pell evidence on Hadley show. Heard him rudely tell another to go away today.

    He has become the perfect example of how evidence simply does not matter in this case. For justification he keeps mentioning the “witness” on 4 Corners about an incident in a changing room. That incident involved no offence that I can see but Hadley keeps using it to refute doubts about evidence in the Cathedral case.

  149. Mother Lode

    I wouldn’t be in the least bit surprised if he’s a child molester.

    It will be speculated taken as proven that what he does to five year-olds was caused by what happened to him as a post-pubescent teen.

  150. Boambee John

    Numbers

    Another Whatabout that has nothing at all to do with what I posted about Tuckey.
    It’s quite amusing….

    Actually, the first “whatabout” was mine, and referred to your post about naughty people questioning the P3ll verdict.

    Again you attempt to move the goalposts.

  151. Tom

    In the process of becoming America’s biggest domestic airline, the world’s first low-cost carrier, Southwest Airlines, has allowed itself to become unionised:

    Schedule disruptions caused by unavailable aircraft are costing Southwest Airlines millions of dollars each week, and the issue’s uncertainly makes providing short-term financial guidance challenging.

    “The damage to the company runs in the millions of dollars weekly in lost revenue due to canceled flights and millions of dollars weekly in terms of additional costs caused by delays and cancellations,” CEO Gary Kelly said at a J.P. Morgan investors conference March 5.

    Southwest’s daily out-of-service aircraft count jumped from its normal range of 15-20 to more than 60 about three weeks ago—a situation airline management blames on deliberate efforts by its mechanics to disrupt the carrier.

    The mechanics, represented by Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA), say unairworthy aircraft are the problem.

    The two sides are locked in contentious contract talks.

    I know who I believe.

    #WhateverItTakes.

    Dangerous game.

  152. Old Lefty

    On the contrary, Numbers and Henning, if Howard or Abbott had established a Child Abuse Royal Commission, it would have been more than just a selectivity job on institutions – the churches, private schools, the ADF – hated by the Left.

    McClellan’s coverage of government institutions was pitifully small and carefully managed – see especially. his kid-glove treatment of Plibersek’s partner over NSW DOCS’ legal privilege of former Parramatta Girls Home residents.

    Note also that Bambi Keneally was supposed to be in charge of the government while that was going on.

  153. None

    Very interesting interview C.L. Money quote:

    So  is Francis’ Papacy a political one?

    Yes, it is. And his leitmotif is immigration. On February 14, when meeting representatives of indigenous populations at the International Fund for Agricultural Development, the Pope called for a “cultural miscegenation” among  the “so-called civilized populations”. Which signifies the elimination of the Christian roots which John Paul II and Benedict XVI had [both] insisted upon.

    And what is “miscegenation” for him?  

    Miscegenation for Francis is not only cultural, but ethnic. It seems his project is that of an ethnic replacement of the European population – in stark demographic decline – with the new waves of African migrants…

    But why all this?

    Francis has an ideological vision that originates from his cultural formation.

    And what would that be?

    That of a man who has absorbed progressive theology through the mediation of Liberation Theology. It is the utopia of the “brave new world”. Except that he is reintroducing it 30-40 years after its failure.

  154. None

    What was the incident in the Four Corners progrsm and if it was so pertinent I wasn’t it used by the prosecution?

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