Monday Forum: March 4, 2018

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1,172 Responses to Monday Forum: March 4, 2018

  1. And boy, did he make enemies when Pope Francis appointed him to reform the Vatican Bank, one of the most cataclysmically mismanaged financial institutions in the world.

    So now the Vatican has a direct line to Vicpol just to get square with Pell because he sorted their finances.
    Yiannopoulos needs one of these.

  2. egg_

    your repetition of “Socialist – bad”

    Is Socialist an anagram of Sh1thole?

    Is Victoriastan rapidly becoming a Sh1tholistan?

  3. Elle

    This sort of covert anti-semitism needs to be forcefully opposed.

    Hear fucking hear!

  4. struth

    The only boring element here is your repetition of “Socialist – bad”, because you said so.

    No, c..nt hooks, all the millions of dead bodies tell us that.

    You have been totally destroyed here, and it was so easy, it’s actually quite embarrassing.
    You don’t know what you even link to, and think the standard of a Police force is how many they shoot.

    Really.
    There are a lot of widows and grieving family members who wish the Victorian police had fired on a car about to run over their loved ones.
    Maybe the evil behind the wheel would have thought twice if he knew half the population were carrying.

    Your filth, a liar, and as we see again today, not very bright.
    Your pompous attitude is not warranted and makes you even more of a joke to be so substantially destroyed, as you have been.
    So Fuck off to Socialist alternative where you can bullshit to the young dead shit minds there.

  5. Is Victoriastan rapidly becoming a Sh1tholistan?

    It already is.
    You are about 8 years too late.

  6. Tom

    If you are genuinely mentally ill, make an appointment with your psych. It appears it’s long overdue.

    Leftards don’t do self-awareness, Elle. It’s all about their rage, which many of them present as humour, like this one. There is no humour in leftism, because there’s no room for it — just self-hatred.

  7. Tailgunner

    Did they let off her drug charge on condition she turn snitch?
    That’s the drum.
    In uni days – huge drug haul? Lol.
    This chick is a Playa, yo.
    Respect.

  8. John64

    Really sad to hear Mark Knight’s home has been destroyed in the fires

    Mark Knight was interviewed on 3AW this morning and, even though he lost fencing, he had successfully defended his home and sheds – including the one in which he keeps his original cartoons.

  9. John Constantine

    Does circumcision boost viagra sales?.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/moral-landscapes/201109/circumcision-social-sexual-psychological-realities

    However, as circumcised penises age they become calloused and much less sensitive. (See the interview listed below for more details.)

  10. Tailgunner

    Maybe just clean the bong water every now and then.
    😉

    No bongs for young Tails, joints only, please.
    Thanks, pussycat
    🙂

  11. Elle

    Leftards don’t do self-awareness, Elle. It’s all about their rage, which many of them present as humour, like this one. There is no humour in leftism, because there’s no room for it — just self-hatred.

    Well said, Tom.

    The hatred oozes out of his attempt at humour.

    Many of us see it.

  12. Elle

    No bongs for young Tails, joints only, please.
    Thanks, pussycat
    🙂

    Hehehe. Onya!

  13. Cassie of Sydney

    “Numbers is an old creepy commie”……..yep and to think he once taught children…..hmmm…wonder what stories they could tell about him.

  14. None

    Thanks John 64 – I know yesterday he thought the wind direction meant that his house was safe. Today I heard that Tonimbuk was wiped out and I know that he lives there. So I hope he’s play survived.

  15. MatrixTransform

    this place is hilarious.
    all the womenz, experts on circumcision all of them (almost), vocal about all the trivia they ever thought … i mean heard.

    the blokes for the most part much more circumspect and with whole range of tales of stitches and infection and callouses and pros and cons and dont-fecking-cares

    The surgeons and spychologists get moment at the lectern but no, the womenzes apparently know everything…and disagreeing with their lobby make you apparently a certifiable bastard

    Yeah right, us blokes are gonna allow you moles free reign with a scalpel to mutilate our boys.

    feck off with your customs and rites

  16. Snoopy

    Complete this sentence.

    The Australian humpback whale population has recovered from near-extinction linked to hunting, but new Queensland research warns that numbers could soon fall again due to the effects of ……….. ………..

  17. Tailgunner

    During WW1 & 2, most uncircumcised troops from both the British, Commonwealth, and German sides sent to the middle east war zones were circumcised if they hadn’t been already done. There were thousands of ops done, because they were unable, with the limited logistic supplies, to bathe that regularly.
    And no, there was no anaesthetic

    Science!!
    fin

  18. MatrixTransform

    due to the effects of ……….. ………..

    due to the effects of infantile circumcision

    10/10 thankyou

  19. Cassie of Sydney

    “None
    #2950469, posted on March 4, 2019 at 6:20 pm
    There is a disgusting anti-male circumcision element that is totally anti-Semite or more specifically anti J*wish. You cannot be a male J** if you are not circumcised. Circumcision is not a religious requirement for Muslims Christians and just about everyone else in the world. Ban circumcision you ban J*daism. This sort of covert anti-semitism needs to be forcefully opposed.”

    Thanks None….when idiots babble on about the evils of circumcision and particularly when idiots start saying that circumcision should be banned…when you scratch them slightly you quickly see their true colours….it’s just a mask for old fashioned J** hatred.

    The “one who has form” has plenty of history spruiking this hatred and then when he is caught out or challenged….he cries “mental illness” and plays the “coy” victim.

  20. Fat Tony

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2950429, posted on March 4, 2019 at 5:51 pm
    Position Statements of Medical Societies in English-Speaking Countries

    Wow Stimpy !! All those Medical Societies are Anti-Semitic!!!
    Who woulda thunk it??

  21. Infidel Tiger

    The Australian humpback whale population has recovered from near-extinction linked to hunting, but new Queensland research warns that numbers could soon fall again due to the effects of ……….. ………..

    Forced circumcision?

    Tony Abbott?

  22. due to the effects of ……….. ………..

    It’s worse than we thought.

  23. calli

    due to the effects of ……….. ………..

    Scientist’s warnings

  24. calli

    Oops. Apostrophe fail.

  25. Arky

    This flute cutting conversation has gone on too long.
    Everyone needs to calm down and remember who the real enemies are here.
    The armadillos.

  26. calli

    Time for some anti-vaxxers to pile in.

    I did offer a nice trollypop earlier today but no one bit.

  27. thefrollickingmole

    Circumcision and whales… there must be a link somewhere…

    (sorry couldnt work in a J e w is h angle, though the nose on that boat is suspiciously Se me tic)

  28. Mark A

    Tailgunner
    #2950512, posted on March 4, 2019 at 7:04 pm

    During WW1 & 2, most uncircumcised troops from both the British, Commonwealth, and German sides sent to the middle east war zones were circumcised if they hadn’t been already done. There were thousands of ops done, because they were unable, with the limited logistic supplies, to bathe that regularly.
    And no, there was no anaesthetic


    Science!!
    fin

    Whoever posted it first, should give us a link to prove it.

    My interest in this is strictly as a piece of military history and I’m sure I would’ve heard of it before, seeing it involved both combatant sides and many thousands of men.

  29. C.L.

    Good piece in The Spectator (Australian) by Milo.

    For years, there have been warnings from within the Catholic church that Pell was going to be the victim of a stitch-up. Anyone with connections in the church can tell you that.

    Yep.

  30. Arky

    Time for some anti-vaxxers to pile in.

    ..
    I’m against vaccinating armadillos for leprosy.

  31. Elle

    …the womenzes apparently know everything…and disagreeing with their lobby make you apparently a certifiable bastard

    Yeah right, us blokes are gonna allow you moles free reign with a scalpel to mutilate our boys.

    feck off with your customs and rites

    Um. Hmm. I’ve only ever seen males carrying out circumcisions. My Christian friends whose sons are circumcised were done so by males too.

    Women here hate modern day feminism. We loathe it. We go into bat for you so called “angry old white guys”. Apparently we are now part of the “lobby”.

    Interesting that you now lump us all together because of the topic of circumcision.

  32. Fat Tony

    MatrixTransform
    #2950510, posted on March 4, 2019 at 7:03 pm
    this place is hilarious.
    …and disagreeing with their lobby make you apparently a certifiable bastard

    No no no no – it makes you an Anti-Semite
    Get with the flow MT

  33. Stimpson J. Cat

    Wow Stimpy !! All those Medical Societies are Anti-Semitic!!!
    Who woulda thunk it??

    Can’t trust those Western Witchdoctors with their crazy superstitions.
    What has Western medicine ever done for us?
    No thanks real Doctors.
    Looks like I lose this argument.
    Again.

  34. thefrollickingmole

    Everyone needs to calm down and remember who the real enemies are here.
    The armadillos.

    cut or uncut?
    The armadillos I mean.

  35. Cassie;

    You cannot be a male J** if you are not circumcised.

    Well bugger me. I wasn’t aware of that.

  36. Infidel Tiger

    What has Western medicine ever done for us?

    Let’s ask the hundreds of thousands of American dying each year from opioids.

  37. Cassie of Sydney

    “MatrixTransform
    #2950510, posted on March 4, 2019 at 7:03 pm
    this place is hilarious.
    …and disagreeing with
    their lobby

    And what lobby is that? Do tell.

  38. MatrixTransform

    it makes you an Anti-Semite

    ..and a stalker

    disagree with a woman…get called names

    call a woman names … get arrested.

    gimme scalpel and I’ll gut the rest off so I can have peace and quiet

  39. flyingduk

    Circumcision removes nearly 50% of the skin of the penis, taking with it enormous numbers of sensory receptors. It also exposes the sensitive glans to the elements, leading to callousing and loss of sensitivity. Even worse, if it is done in infancy, it inhibits the formation of a large number of sensory pleasure circuits in the brain, in much the same way as kids born deaf don’t properly develop the central speech and hearing circuits. Infant circumcision amounts to nothing more than genital mutilation and ritual child abuse. I find it interesting that ‘female circumcision’ is deservedly regarded as mutilation, whereas male circumcision is .. ‘meh’.

  40. MatrixTransform

    And what lobby is that? Do tell.

    sorry, I dont know the proper collective noun for gaggle of wanking bints.

    maybe the fellas can help me out?

  41. thefrollickingmole

    Looks like myth busted, at least for US forces…

    https://circumcisionthepainfuldilemma.wordpress.com/table-of-contents/chapter-7/
    It must be emphasized that circumcision within the military service has been an American practice peculiar to World War II , the Korean War, and the war in Vietnam. World War I, the Civil War, the Revolutionary War and most other previous wars throughout history were fought (apparently) effectively by men whose foreskins were intact. These wars took place during a time when bathing facilities and opportunities were vastly inferior to what we have had in the 20th century.

    Obviously the practice of circumcising our own soldiers has been one that was doctor constructed rather than based on true need.

    “I know of a Navy doctor who always circumcised on Saturday night so he could use foreskins for bait when he fished on Sunday.”2

    “A doctor on my ship fed foreskins to his pet piranha fish.”2

    “In my battalion (Seabees, WW II) the doctor did his damndest to sweet-talk, coerce, and ‘politic’ us uncuts into allowing him to add our foreskins to his 1/2-gallon jar of alcohol-pickled foreskins.”2

    All this is on the internet, and nobody would deliberately lie would they?

  42. Mark:
    Happy to do so – but I have to find it first. It’s quite true.
    Would you accept an argument from Authority due to me being in the RAANC? 🙂
    Give me time to go through the old paperwork in the shed…

  43. calli

    I dont know the proper collective noun for gaggle of wanking bints.

    Did someone call you names, Matrix?

    Terrible.

  44. cohenite

    For your edification: menstrual facials:

    Blood sisters, dirt brothers and other brand new inanities

    Mark Powell The Spectator Australia 4 March 2019

    I’ve often tried to challenge myself to come up with a scenario that so-called ‘progressives’ might invent that is just so plain ridiculous that it wouldn’t be believed, let alone considered. And I honestly can’t personally think of any. But then they consistently come up with ludicrous scenarios like this: A self-described, feminist ‘sex coach’, Demetra Nyx, has started posting pictures of herself on Instagram where she smears her own menstrual blood on her face because it’s – quote – “magical” and “powerful”.

    Incredibly, Nyx is not alone, with an increasing number of female life coaches and spiritual healers also advocating the practice of what is referred to as ‘menstrual facials’. As Yazmina Jade, who engages in the practice each month, writes:

    It’s taken me years to realise that bleeding is a sacred ritual time, for women to go inward, to let go, to create, to use in powerful manifestation and to honour our womb power and MOTHER EARTH…

  45. Atoms for Peace

    All this chat about genitalia has me wondering how social justice warriors and greens go about having some leg over.
    Does it start with ” Darl, are you woke yet ? ”
    Followed by the sign off of a 5 page consent form re mutually agreed conviviality.
    About as spontaneous as a 3 day colonoscopy prep methinks.

  46. Knuckle Dragger

    C**nt hooks.

    A fabulous term I haven’t heard in years.

    As an aside Struth, I note the tour bus that slammed into a couple of camels about 60km north of Kings Canyon this morning. No serious injuries, but I’ve seen a pic and the country is flat and tree and scrub-free. In my experience in that land you can see cattle a mile out, let alone a camel.

    Anyway, I suppose it makes a change from the elderly Yanks with wonky knees/pacemakers/obesity who insist on bushwalking in the Canyon in January with a 600ml water bottle, invariably getting lost and then rescued before threatening to sue everyone from their hospital bed.

    Good times.

  47. rickw

    During WW1 & 2, most uncircumcised troops from both the British, Commonwealth, and German sides sent to the middle east war zones were circumcised if they hadn’t been already done. There were thousands of ops done, because they were unable, with the limited logistic supplies, to bathe that regularly.
    And no, there was no anaesthetic.

    Note that it is not uncommon for adult males in PNG today to submit to circumcision for exactly this reason.

    As usual in all the palava about mutilation, law abiding westerners are clobbered over the line ball issue of male circumcision, while muslims sail on untouched on the issue of FGM.

    As usual, the debate is largely pointless because the elephant in the room avoided because racism.

  48. vlad

    The one thing I would fault Cardinal Pell for is co-operating with the filth.

    The police are not your friends. Answer no comment throughout.

  49. MatrixTransform

    Well bugger me. I wasn’t aware of that.

    and upthread…

    I’m still trying to find out how much wine the womenz force into the infant boys before they have at them with a knife.

    nobody gave me a beer before the op

  50. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    For those Cats who were asking after Mrs Memory Vault – not good news.

    Hello (Zulu Kilo Two Alpha)

    Can’t say it’s the merriest of times. Forty one years together.

    Marilyn slipped away peacefully in her sleep in the early hours of Wednesday, 27 February. Heart failure. Basically she went to sleep and just never woke up. She was due to fly down to Melbourne at 10.00am that morning. But in the end it wasn’t the cancer that got her, her heart just gave out.

    It was XXXXXXX birthday the next day (Thursday 28/2) with a party on Saturday evening. Marilyn was looking forward to it. XXXXXXX and I got just a little bit drunk Saturday night along with the other kids, most whom had been Marilyn’s surrogate “children” since primary school. From single parent families, all of them.

    She will be cremated on Tuesday, 19 March. Down at Redcliffe. That’s her birthday. Just family. Assuming it can be arranged (we haven’t even made any bookings yet) there will be a memorial service held in the Bribie Vietnam Veteran’s Memorial Park opposite the RSL, on Wednesday 20 March at 11.00am. All welcome.

    Then it will be back to the Bribie Waterways Motel, to spend the afternoon and evening in a celebration of her life. Again, everybody welcome, including any Cats who may be around. Ongoing food and drinks provided (cool drinks, beer, wine etc), but bring your own Scotch if you’re fussy (just joking). etc. Dress casual. No ties etc. We will be scattering her ashes along the foreshore out the front of where we lived at 217 Welsby Parade, the following weekend. Just the kids, the grandkids, and me.

    Thanks to you and all those Cats who wished Marilyn well.

  51. Elle

    disagree with a woman…get called names

    Matrix, LOL! You are the King of name calling – bint, mole, retard etc etc.

    Bad boy!

  52. Cassie of Sydney

    “Winston Smith
    #2950533, posted on March 4, 2019 at 7:33 pm
    Cassie;

    You cannot be a male J** if you are not circumcised.

    Well bugger me. I wasn’t aware of that.”

    If you are born of a Jewish mother and not circumcised, you can’t be counted in a minyan.

    I have a friend who was born in Czechoslovakia to one of the few J**ish families that stayed after World War II. Circumcision was banned by the communist government under pain of imprisonment. My friend and his brother were not circumcised as babies. The family managed to leave in the early 1980s. As soon as the family arrived in Paris after leaving Czechoslovakia…..the boys (who were in their teens) were checked into the Jewish hospital and they were circumcised. It was then that the boys became fully J**ish. Any government that tries to ban circumcision is a totalitarian government.

  53. Steve trickler

    Gorgeous females mingling with dangerous beasts.

    There is a lot to like here.



  54. Cassie of Sydney

    “Winston Smith
    #2950533, posted on March 4, 2019 at 7:33 pm
    Cassie;

    You cannot be a male J** if you are not circumcised.

    Well bugger me. I wasn’t aware of that.”

    If you are born of a J**ish mother and not circumcised, you can’t be counted in a minyan.

    I have a friend who was born in Czechoslovakia to one of the few J**ish families that stayed after World War II. Circumcision was banned by the communist government under pain of imprisonment. My friend and his brother were not circumcised as babies. The family managed to leave in the early 1980s. As soon as the family arrived in Paris after leaving Czechoslovakia…..the boys (who were in their teens) were checked into the J**ish hospital and they were circumcised. It was then that the boys became fully J**ish. Any government that tries to ban circumcision is a totalitarian government.

  55. MatrixTransform

    thefrollickingmole #2950539, posted on March 4, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    well, there’s a few productive.

    doctors … inventive bastards

  56. Knuckle Dragger

    Flyingduk,

    If whatever you’re doing is forming calluses, you’re doing it wrong.

    Certain products are cheap and readily available at supermarkets.

    You’re welcome.

  57. Knuckle Dragger

    Ah, shit.

    Vale Mrs MV.

  58. calli

    So sorry to hear that, Zulu.

    MV, if you’re lurking, my love and tears for you. I don’t know what else to say.

  59. cohenite

    By way of redress for that menstrual art post I give you Groucho as a hotel manager interviewing a pompous guest:

    Groucho as Mr Kornblow: Any baggage?
    Guest: It’s on it’s way from the airport.
    Kornblow: In all my years in the hotel business that’s the phoniest story I’ve heard. I suppose your name is Smith?
    Guest: No sir, it’s Smythe, with a ‘Y’.
    Kornblow: I see, English version. Mr and Mrs Smythe and no baggage. Let me see your marriage licence.
    Guest: What? How dare you.
    Kornblow: Puts a ‘Y’ in Smith and expects me to let him in the hotel with a strange woman.
    Guest: Strange Woman!?
    Kornblow: She is to me, I never saw her before.
    Guest: Sir, I am president of the Casablanca Laundry Company.
    Kornblow: (removing shirt): You are? Then take this and have it back Friday – and no starch. Meanwhile this is a family hotel and I suggest you take your business elsewhere.
    Guest: Sir, this lady is my wife. You ought to be ashamed.
    Kornblow: If this lady is your wife, you should be ashamed.
    Guest: You’ll hear from me sir.
    Kornblow: Do that, even if it’s only a postcard.

  60. Roger

    For those Cats who were asking after Mrs Memory Vault – not good news.

    Thanks, Zulu.

  61. Elle

    Oh, Memoryvault.
    God bless you.
    You and your darling have been, and will continue to be in my prayers.
    She will be with you forever.
    Tears are falling.
    Deep breaths.

  62. Stimpson J. Cat

    Any government that tries to ban circumcision is a totalitarian government.

    Who is trying to ban circumcision?
    I merely stated my opinion, and the opinions of:
    British Medical Association
    Royal Australasian College of Physicians
    Australian College of Paediatrics
    Australasian Association of Paediatric Surgeons
    Canadian Paediatric Society
    American Medical Association
    American Academy of Pediatrics

    None of these carry any weight whatsoever.

  63. A couple of years ago this happened in victoriastan; a muslim following instructions from isis runs over and kills 6 and injures many more; vicplod followed the creep around for hours and had many chances to shoot him; they didn’t and 6 people are dead.

    The only instructions Dimitrious Gargasoulas (of Greek-Tongan heritage) were following were those in his head. He has a history of mental illness. The Muslim meme was generated by a witness claiming he heard him shout “allahu akbar”. It was picked up by extremist media, where Cohenite has found it.

    Or the Lindt Café siege where police resources went into Operation Hammerhead – stopping a backlash against muslims – instead of shooting the muslim; and when plod went in belatedly after the muslim had executed the manager plod not only managed to shoot the muslim but also kill one hostage, severely wound 2 others and wound several of themselves.

    Police action, although inadequate, was not driven by fear of backlash. “Waiting out” a terrorist in a hostage situation is SOP. It works more often than not. It didn’t this time.

    I go back to this point which numbers ignores: gun violence in the US is disproportionately by blacks, on other blacks and every one else. It’s a huge problem and it is the context for police shootings although there is no racial bias in police shootings.

    The old chestnut – “It’s the fault of African-Americans”. When you have as many firearms as people, it matters not at all what races are involved, your fatality rate is going to be higher than countries where gun prevalence is not a problem.

    The other relevant aspect is US police as in Australia, UK etc, have NO duty of care to prevent anyone being affected by crime. Unlike the US however, Australia has no 2nd amendment.

    Given the fact that their firearm fatality rate is eleven times ours (corrected for population) the second amendment is a bug, not a feature.

    It boils to that: as a citizen in a democratic society where a natural distrust of government and individual self-reliance is preferred why shouldn’t citizens be able to defend themselves. We have seen vicpol advise citizens to capitulate when confronted by criminals; this is appalling especially since conviction rates for violent crimes is falling as those rates of crime are rising.

    The USA is (as I’ve been reminded over and over by Americans, is not a “democratic society”. It is a constitutional republic. Crime rates in Australia in general, and Victoria in particular, are not rising.

    Numbers is an old creepy commie; individual rights are anathema to him; and since self defence is a paramount individual right it is not surprising the old cuck has wasted so much time here defending disarming the citizenry and maligning the US of A.

    What s anathema to me as a teacher (and I’m sure to most American teachers) is the distinct possibility that somebody is going to turn up at my school and brass everyone up with a semi-auto. This has happened 194 times (end of 2017) since 2000. No other developed (or for that matter undeveloped country) has this problem. The USA maligns itself.

    What is really creepy, is someone admiring that.

  64. cohenite

    My deepest sympathy to MV and family.

  65. Tintarella di Luna

    Of course Canada is much more socialist than the USA.

    And has legislated the proper use of pronouns!
    Progressives!
    Paying attention to the REALLY important issues!

    And of course Turdeau’s preference for ‘personkind’ as proper parlance.

  66. Stimpson J. Cat

    Condolences Memory Vault.

  67. Tintarella di Luna

    Sincerest condolences for your profound loss Memoryvault, may you find comfort in the love of family and in the memories which you shared for so long.

  68. Roger

    For years, there have been warnings from within the Catholic church that Pell was going to be the victim of a stitch-up. Anyone with connections in the church can tell you that.

    Only VicPol could be so inept as to imagine that they could fit up someone with a profile like Pell.

    This has a long way to go yet and many scalps will be taken along the way.

  69. Ivan Denisovich

    For years, there have been warnings from within the Catholic church that Pell was going to be the victim of a stitch-up. Anyone with connections in the church can tell you that.

    Steve Skojec seems to hint at that but I’m not convinced:

    But he was brought into the Vatican to do a job — audit and reform the Vatican bank — and when he found over a billion Euros in the Vatican mattresses, he was suddenly called back to Australia on decades-old sexual abuse allegations as papal hatchet man Archbishop Becciu swooped in to put a stop to any momentum the financial reforms might have.

    In July of 2017, I wrote a piece entitled “The Destruction of Cardinal Pell.” In it, I noted that he had fallen from the good graces of Francis when he signed the 13 Cardinals Letter, and that as soon as the years-old allegations of decades-old sexual abuse against him became formal, there were signs of it being a witch hunt.

    I doubt there was any bribery or collusion. Fatty Ashton was motivated by hatred of the Church and especially of Pell. No additional motivation required. However, Skojec has some interesting observations:

    But with headlines like “The Pope’s Pedophile?” now circulating in the mainstream press, even an complete acquittal will never restore his good name………………..

    One priest, a Jesuit, was called as an expert witness by the defense, but was consistently referred to as a “Christian Brother” by prosecutors – a move, the court observer told CNA, that seemed calculated to invoke the religious order at the center of a widely known clerical sexual abuse scandal in the country.

    “It was a blatant move, but it sums up the sort of anti-Catholic, anti-clerical drift of the whole trial,” CNA’s courtroom source said. “The jury were being winked at.”…………………….

    There are no winners,” said Andrew Collins, a clergy sexual abuse survivor from Ballarat. But, he said, “It’s part of the bloodletting that’s needed to happen for the Catholic church.”

    Part of the bloodletting that’s needed to happen.

    I suppose it doesn’t matter if it’s symbolic, then.

    https://onepeterfive.com/cardinal-pells-conviction-announced-after-new-trial-falls-apart/

  70. struth

    Thought it might have been the case.
    Condolences MV if you are there old mate.

    I wasn’t going to drink tonight, but I’ll have a scotch and a quiet moment.
    Quite bloody upsetting really, and I haven’t even met you in person.
    Strange world it is.

  71. MV, wishing you all the best at this time.

  72. bespoke

    cohenite
    #2950563, posted on March 4, 2019 at 7:53 pm
    My deepest sympathy to MV and family.

    + 1

  73. Fat Tony

    Memoryvault – very sad to hear. My best wishes to you and your family

  74. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I wasn’t going to drink tonight, but I’ll have a scotch and a quiet moment.

    I’ll join you in that one, struth.

  75. hzhousewife

    Oh MV, so sorry to hear your news about Marilyn, but grateful that she slipped away near home and hearth among loved ones. Bribie is a lovely place, may she rest there well.

  76. Gab

    Sincere condolences, Memory Vault.

    Requiéscant in pace.

  77. cohenite

    You’re a liar numbers, Gargasoulas had recently converted to islam and was following an isis edict which also motivated vehicle terrorist attacks by other mentally disturbed muslims around the world. Isis said:

    If you can kill a disbelieving American or European — especially the spiteful and filthy French — or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war, including the citizens of the countries that entered into a coalition against the Islamic State, then rely upon Allah, and kill him in any manner or way however it may be….If you are not able to find an IED or a bullet, then single out the disbelieving American, Frenchman, or any of their allies. Smash his head with a rock, or slaughter him with a knife, or run him over with your car, or throw him down from a high place, or choke him, or poison him

    Isn’t it always the way with commie traitors like numbers to justify what other extremists do.

    As for crime stats in the most commified Australian state:

    Sudanese-born offenders ­accounted for 8.5 per cent of ­aggravated robbery offences and 6.9 per cent of riot and affray ­offences in the year to March.

    Earlier agency data showed Sudanese offenders were responsible for 1.1 per cent of all Victorian crime, despite representing 0.15 per cent of the population.

    Australian Bureau of Statistics jail population figures show Sudanese are the most over-represented ethnic group in prisons.

    Victoria has a higher South Sudanese population, and a higher overall Sudanese population, than NSW and Queensland.

    Watch the commie grub come out and justify the suds now.

  78. egg_

    The Australian humpback whale population has recovered from near-extinction linked to hunting, but new Queensland research warns that numbers could soon fall again due to the effects of ……….. ………..

    Adani Mine
    [email protected] Swarming

  79. Cassie of Sydney

    I wish you long life MV….please take care….remember grief is the price we pay for love.

  80. Steve trickler

    For Marilyn and Memoryvault.



  81. struth

    A couple of years ago this happened in victoriastan; a muslim following instructions from isis runs over and kills 6 and injures many more; vicplod followed the creep around for hours and had many chances to shoot him; they didn’t and 6 people are dead.

    The only instructions Dimitrious Gargasoulas (of Greek-Tongan heritage) were following were those in his head. He has a history of mental illness. The Muslim meme was generated by a witness claiming he heard him shout “allahu akbar”. It was picked up by extremist media, where Cohenite has found it.

    Irrelevent.
    Evil was allowed to kill by a corrupt police force, and it did so because it knew no one else would be firing at it either.
    The innocent victims of evil violence aren’t in your pathetic hysteria stats regarding gun deaths because they don’t matter to you.
    You care about mussies not being blamed…….. your mind went right there
    As we see here, defending Islam, as if that is what the point is about here.

    You are pure ignorant evil, and you come here pouring it out.
    Total scum.

    Give it a rest tonight Numbers, if you know what’s good for you.

  82. hzhousewife

    Friend has firstborn girl at primary school for 6 weeks now. She was taught that her body is her space, no one can touch her without her permission and no one is the boss of her body. I understand there are some thing’s that in institutions that need to be spelled out to keep people safe. But you can imagine what happened the first time since she was told by her father she needed to clean her room.

    Bit slow to follow up on this but I feel it demonstrates how rights are taught but responsibilities neglected. Teachers fling about the mantras but neglect the consequences. I would have tried a short talk with the kid about how she now needs to learn how to keep the standards required in order to share her space in the family home. Let’s practice together how to fold your jammies and t-shirts with Marie Kondo, here is the laundry basket, this is a coat-hanger.I’d also be having a chat to the teacher because this is a learning moment !!!! Grr, this stuff gets up my nose, I come across rude young people with no idea all the time and it is mostly hopeless parenting.

  83. Delta A

    My sincere condolences, Memoryvault.

    It’s such a joy growing old together: a silent dread of the day that parts us.

    Take comfort in the happy years you have amassed together.

  84. Dr Fredrich V. Lenin

    My deepest sympathy MV , I know exactly how you feel ,I lost my beloved life partner 6 years ago and the memories linger on .again sorry for your loss .

  85. Sincere condolences MV

    Not many that can count 41 years.

  86. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I have no desire to see Stimpy leave this blog. I do think there is a bit of ganging up on him. Perhaps I am missing something, but all he does is shake a topic like a puppy and particularly does this if it is one that seems to step on some sensitive toes. Oppositional perhaps, but not evil.

    There is a case, often medically put, against infant circumcision unless there is a tight prepuce or other pathology present. In general, I side with this. There is also a case for not denigrating nor proscribing a deeply religious communal practice signaling group identity that has few serious consequences for a child, even should some pain be caused, as it can be. My mother once stuck a nappy pin through my first child’s prepuce and holler he did, loudly. He survived.

    Ritual circumcision is not parallel to female genital mutilation of any type (types 1 to 111 are recognized). As Winston has medically advised, any cut around the female clitoris, with its very extensive blood supply to the labia and their engorgement is likely to affect sexual function; plus the clitoris is intensely supplied with nerves which make such cutting interventions excruciating, and which cause permanent damage. Infibulation, sewing up the vagina, is extraordinarily barbaric.

    Occasionally circumcision poorly performed in infancy can cut too deeply. Trained full-time practitioners probably avoid this. One unfortunate man seen by my medical Big Sis had an adult penis that looked rather like a stalked mushroom. I doubt he was in favour of infant circumcision.

    From Struth:

    So what do you think whistle cocking really achieved, as it mutilates a penis to as close as a primitive culture could get to a vagina, while just like the dishonesty found in other cultures, including our own, it would never be proclaimed as the reason.

    I suggested earlier today that genital mutilation has a long history in human life and its origins may not be how such practices are explained today. Spencer and Gillen were observationally very acute, but not necessarily providers of a complete explanation for the things they observed. Cross-cultural comparitors can allow more explanatory completeness and the formulation of theories about the development of human cultures that are most certainly not ‘rot’. Rot is a lazy form of critique. Unifactorial ‘explanations’ offered in the context of the present are just that; insufficient. In aboriginal society subincisions may have served to express seniority and control. They may also have in some circumstances induced homosexual experiment. Their origins likely lie elsewhere. Struth is on the right path; a very ancient one with regard to the human psyche.

    Today’s thread has not been a pleasant one to read, imho, because on this apparent highly emotional topic of genital mutilation, devolving only to a discussion of circumcision, a level of rational distance has not been well maintained. So it is best I think to leave well alone now.

    Stimpy, I do not see you as an anti-Semite; but sometimes you do push your oppositional luck.
    I also think you are wry, and funny, and good value here. Always have. Don’t leave.

  87. Mark A

    Winston Smith
    #2950540, posted on March 4, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    Mark:
    Happy to do so – but I have to find it first. It’s quite true.
    Would you accept an argument from Authority due to me being in the RAANC? 🙂
    Give me time to go through the old paperwork in the shed…

    If you can prove it I accept, no problem.
    However, it could not have been universal, bc. members of my family served in the zone and came home intact.

    Also I’m an amateur military history buff and asked about the German side, and so far none of my fellow sleuths can confirm. Not categorically deny it either, we just can’t find any trace of this.

  88. Bruce of Newcastle

    Thanks Zulu and thanks MV.
    Raise a few in Marilyn’s honour.
    I will too.

  89. Cassie of Sydney

    For MV…one of my favourites…

  90. Des Deskperson

    ‘Marilyn slipped away peacefully in her sleep in the early hours of Wednesday, 27 February. Heart failure’

    Deepest sympathy and condolences, although there is probably nothing I can say that would help.

  91. 1735099

    Irrelevent (sic).

    The word is irrelevant.
    My points are not.
    You can’t refute them, so you ignore them.

    If you know what’s good for you.

    I’m terrified…..

  92. Mark A

    My deepest sympathy MV , so sorry to hear this, just when things were looking up for you health wise.
    Take care and come back to the forum when feel up to it.

  93. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    MV, we have all been waiting for news, and now we know that Marilyn has lost the struggle.
    People upthread have said it all, so sincere condolences from me too.

    Memories live on. Take comfort from Rafe’s beautiful poem to Kilmeny, his love, ten years gone, published on a separate commemorative thread here just the other day. You won’t forget your girl, and she died knowing that.

  94. vlad

    I said I was going to watch Four Corners tonight but it’s actually getting close to my bedtime.

    And life is short.

  95. candy

    MV
    Sorry to hear of your loss. It sounds like Mrs MV was a very lovely wife and mother, and grandma.

  96. MatrixTransform

    #2950548, posted on March 4, 2019 at 7:44 pm

    Condolences. Sad news.
    My heart goes out to everybody

  97. Roger

    You can’t refute them, so you ignore them.

    That’s rich.

  98. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Premier Daniel Andrews lashes commentary on Cardinal George Pell case result

    David King
    Victoria Editor
    An hour ago March 4, 2019

    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said Cardinal George Pell had received a fair trial and questioned media commentators who said the jury had made an error in its decision.

    “The notion that if you don’t like a verdict, you can just say they got it wrong, that’s not how ours system works,” the Premier said.

    “What’s happened here … is that a victim has been believed. And that’s thrown a whole lot of people into absolute disarray,” he told ABC Melbourne’s Jon Faine.

    Mr Andrews said the Catholic Church had some way to go on its response to child abuse.

    “I have been very disappointed with some of the commentary and some of the positioning from the church since the verdict,” Mr Andrews said.

    “And I would hope that senior leaders in the Catholic Church across the country would take the opportunity to make it really clear that the Catholic Church is much more about victims than it is about itself.”

    He said he was particularly concerned with some Catholics saying they would visit Cardinal Pell in jail.

    “I don’t think that’s right. At this time, that is just not right.”

    From the Oz.

  99. Ivan Denisovich

    For years, there have been warnings from within the Catholic church that Pell was going to be the victim of a stitch-up. Anyone with connections in the church can tell you that.

    Steve Skojec hints at that but I’m not convinced:

    But he was brought into the Vatican to do a job — audit and reform the Vatican bank — and when he found over a billion Euros in the Vatican mattresses, he was suddenly called back to Australia on decades-old sexual abuse allegations as papal hatchet man Archbishop Becciu swooped in to put a stop to any momentum the financial reforms might have.

    In July of 2017, I wrote a piece entitled “The Destruction of Cardinal Pell.” In it, I noted that he had fallen from the good graces of Francis when he signed the 13 Cardinals Letter, and that as soon as the years-old allegations of decades-old sexual abuse against him became formal, there were signs of it being a witch hunt.

    I don’t think there were any bribes or collusion. Fatty Ashton is more than sufficiently motivated by his hatred of the Church and especially his hatred of Pe ll. However, Skojec makes some interesting observations:

    But with headlines like “The Pope’s Ped#phile?” now circulating in the mainstream press, even an complete acquittal will never restore his good name…………………….

    One priest, a Jesuit, was called as an expert witness by the defense, but was consistently referred to as a “Christian Brother” by prosecutors – a move, the court observer told CNA, that seemed calculated to invoke the religious order at the center of a widely known clerical sexual abuse scandal in the country.

    “It was a blatant move, but it sums up the sort of anti-Catholic, anti-clerical drift of the whole trial,” CNA’s courtroom source said. “The jury were being winked at.”

    Full discussion of the charges and the evidence laid against Pe ll remains impossible because of the media blackout. The gag order was imposed at the request of prosecutors in June, who argued that media attention could bias the case.

    “It’s absurd,” another source directly familiar with the trial told CNA. “Any Catholic in Victoria can tell you that our media has been steeped in anti-Catholic, anti-clerical and especially anti-Pe ll coverage for more than two decades. The prosecutors were perfectly happy with all of that leading up to the trial, and for it to carry on now.”

    “The only thing you can’t talk about are the facts of the case,” the source said…………………

    “There are no winners,” said Andrew Collins, a clergy sex#al abuse survivor from Ballarat. But, he said, “It’s part of the bloodletting that’s needed to happen for the Catholic church.”

    Part of the bloodletting that’s needed to happen.

    I suppose it doesn’t matter if it’s symbolic, then.

    https://onepeterfive.com/cardinal-pells-conviction-announced-after-new-trial-falls-apart/

  100. Boambee John

    Memory Vault

    Peter,

    Condolences to you and your family. May Marilyn rest in peace, and may you find comfort in the arms of your children and grandchildren.

  101. 1735099

    My sincere condolences, MV.

  102. Confused Old Misfit

    Deepest sympathy MV

  103. Infidel Tiger

    Ellen Fanning:Journo
    @ellenmfanning
    ·
    Mar 3
    I am increasingly disturbed by the anti-Papist sentiment evident in Australia. A brilliant local priest – kind and a servant to the poor- reports being abused, spat at in public in Sydney.There’s a disturbing history of anti-Catholic sentiment in Australia – let’s be very careful

    Didn’t expect this.

    Fanning is now getting the treatment from her media friends.

  104. C.L.

    Sincere condolences, Memory Vault.
    May she rest in peace. And peace be with you too.
    You were lucky to have such a love; and she was lucky to have you.

  105. candy

    He said he was particularly concerned with some Catholics saying they would visit Cardinal Pell in jail.
    “I don’t think that’s right. At this time, that is just not right.”

    That’s extra-ordinary. Premier Andrews is a Catholic himself. You would kind of think he would be simpatico with other Catholics. Even if he believed Cardinal Pell guilty, he would have understanding of the feelings of bewilderment and worry of other Catholics.

    He doesn’t so it sounds like a left vs. right political statement, to my mind.

  106. Snoopy

    MV, Sorry to learn of your loss. May your memories of 41 years together give you peace and comfort.

  107. Boambee John

    1735099
    #2950592, posted on March 4, 2019 at 8:22 pm
    Irrelevent (sic).

    The word is irrelevant

    Ever the pedant.

    Sorted out that vagina/vulva difference yet?

  108. Tom

    Go well, Memory Vault. Most here can only imagine having such a loving, lifelong companion.

    I hope you won’t be lost to the Cat community. We’re thinking about you.

  109. Infidel Tiger

    Andrews has belled the cat.

    Zero chance now Pell wins his appeal.

  110. Ivan Denisovich

    Sincere condolences, MV.

  111. Fat Tony

    1735099
    #2950592, posted on March 4, 2019 at 8:22 pm
    Irrelevent (sic).

    The word is irrelevant.
    My points are not.
    You can’t refute them, so you ignore them.

    If you know what’s good for you.

    I’m terrified…..

    No, you’re not terrified…..you’re just a fuckwit

  112. Notafan

    I don’t think Andrews has as much control as he would like

    In any case there is always the High court.

  113. candy

    I am increasingly disturbed by the anti-Papist sentiment evident in Australia

    Anti Papist sentiment has been strong in Australia for some time now. I would say since around Labor took office 2007. (Along with the other things you can’t say easily like being a social conservative, you think climate change is hugely massively over-rated, or Trump is doing a good job. All things you can’t say freely in Australia).

  114. Roger

    “The notion that if you don’t like a verdict, you can just say they got it wrong, that’s not how ours system works,” the Premier said. He was particularly concerned with some Catholics saying they would visit Cardinal Pell in jail. “I don’t think that’s right. At this time, that is just not right.”

    Forsooth, an ignoramus and a heartless bastard.

    Thank God for the separation of powers – such as it is in Victoria – or Andrews would have every dissenter to the Pell verdict in prison.

  115. Boambee John


    I am increasingly disturbed by the anti-Papist sentiment evident in Australia. A brilliant local priest – kind and a servant to the poor- reports being abused, spat at in public in Sydney.

    If only he was wearing a hijab, this would be the subject of outrageous outrage and a hashtag.

  116. Nick

    “The notion that if you don’t like a verdict, you can just say they got it wrong, that’s not how ours system works,” the Premier said. He was particularly concerned with some Catholics saying they would visit Cardinal Pell in jail. “I don’t think that’s right. At this time, that is just not right.”

    A just world would never forget these remarks and would hold Andrews and his mates to this standard, forever.

  117. Nelson Kidd-Players

    I suspect Andrews has no problems with his position, he was recently endorsed by the Victorian electorate, despite Red Shirts and so on, after all.

  118. Mark A

    Notafan
    #2950619, posted on March 4, 2019 at 8:47 pm

    I don’t think Andrews has as much control as he would like

    In any case there is always the High court.

    Leave to appeal there has to be granted by the H C.
    That much I know, and it’s not automatically granted.

  119. DrBeauGan

    Condolences, MV. Don’t stop posting here.

  120. C.L.

    Daniel Andrews appeared on Faine’s show – which is grand central station for the rigged Pell prosecution – in order to stand over the appellate judges. They have been warned not to quash Pell’s conviction. Andrews has even claimed they have no right to do so. It’s not too fantastic to speculate that Andrews may be planning to act against these judges if they disobey his very clear orders.

  121. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Condolences, Memory Vault. May the memory of your times together still be accessible.

  122. Percy Popinjay

    The Australian humpback whale population has recovered from near-extinction linked to hunting, but new Queensland research warns that numbers could soon fall again due to the effects of ……….. ………..

    Endless doomsaying.

  123. egg_

    “The notion that if you don’t like a verdict, you can just say they got it wrong, that’s not how ours system works,” the Premier said. He was particularly concerned with some Catholics saying they would visit Cardinal Pell in jail. “I don’t think that’s right. At this time, that is just not right.”

    Is Quasimodo risking being strung up by the Tykes?

  124. Percy Popinjay

    Poor ol’ MV.

    My condolences, Squire.

  125. bespoke

    Cat community

    Nauseatingly progressive.

  126. Notafan

    I know Mark

    The point is Dan Dastardly might try to manipulate Victorian judges but he has no standing with the High Court.

    Nevertheless his remarks are quite extraordinary.

    Even if Cardinal Pell were guilty he should not be denied visitors.

    Has Andrews publically suggested the same for vicious mass murderers or terrorists?

    No he hasn’t

  127. Snoopy

    Infidel Tiger
    #2950615, posted on March 4, 2019 at 8:45 pm
    Andrews has belled the cat.

    Zero chance now Pell wins his appeal.

    Win or lose, it’s the appeal itself that Andrews fears.

    What are the chances of the appeal being subject to a media blackout out of concern for the survivor and the victims’ families?

    Rod Hulls. The gift that keeps on giving.

  128. C.L.

    July, 2018: Five New Judges For Supreme Court And Court Of Appeal.

    The Andrews Labor Government today announced the appointment of five new judges to the Supreme Court and Court of Appeal.

  129. Snoopy

    Today I went to the Broadmeadows shopping centre. Does Melbourne have anything else worth seeing?

  130. DrBeauGan

    Just saw your post regarding our argy-bargy, Arky. I’ve been asleep.

    Are you thinking of turning it into a video? I’m not exactly photogenic. But incredibly sexy. The women will find me captivating.

    Sinc, please pass on my email address to Arky if he asks for it. He should be the one to do all the work.

  131. Boambee John

    Notafan at 2100

    Has Andrews publically suggested the same for vicious mass murderers or terrorists?

    No need to ban visitors to them, in Victoria they usually get bail.

  132. Overburdened

    Having been a surfer since l was 12, as well as scuba’n, fishing, worming etc; I reckon that the only thing that can explain the rapid increase in whale numbers since the relatively recent end of whale hunting in Oz is that the whales were staying out wide.
    I reckon that because they are intelligent and gregarious, they would have been able to identify the screw sounds of whalers and avoided them accordingly if possible.
    Given the breeding and gestation cycle of whales, it’s the only thing that makes sense to me to explain their rapid increase in numbers after whaling was abandoned, on the Eastern seaboard at least.
    Humans know bugger all about the marine environment imo, even the many people that know more about it than me.

  133. Roger

    Today I went to the Broadmeadows shopping centre. Does Melbourne have anything else worth seeing?

    Capt. Cook’s cottage in the Fitzroy Gardens.

    St.Patrick’s is nearby.

    And next up is the image in the rear view mirror heading north on the Hume H’way.

  134. Notafan

    I love the Fitzroy gardens.

    Don’t go there at night though

  135. C.L.

    September 2016:
    Daniel Andrews arrogantly rejects a Supreme Court verdict

    The Victorian Government is challenging a Supreme Court ruling that cleared the way for an Ombudsman’s investigation into allegations Labor MPs rorted their parliamentary staffing allowance.

    Last month the court ruled the watchdog could investigate allegations MPs misused their taxpayer-funded entitlements by letting paid staffers work in campaign roles in the lead-up to the 2014 state election.

    The Government said it was appealing against the ruling to “protect the architecture of Victoria’s integrity regime”, and denied trying to block the Ombudsman from investigating.

    Opposition spokesman John Pesutto said a more thorough inquiry was warranted, and criticised the Government for spending more taxpayers’ money on the case.

    “This is the height of arrogance,” he said.

    “If the Andrews Labor Government has nothing to fear it should have nothing to hide. Why does [Premier] Daniel Andrews continually stand in the way of an independent Ombudsman’s investigation?”

    Greens leader Greg Barber said Labor seemed intent on trying to thwart the Ombudsman.

    “If I was under investigation I’d want that investigation to happen as fast as possible and clear the air,” he said.

    “Clearly they’re going to take appeals all the way to the High Court, I would say, in order to delay the investigation, possibly until after the next election.”

    The Premier has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing.

    Labor was cleared by police in June.

    Labor was cleared by police in June.

    He lost the appeal:
    Victorian Government loses court appeal to block ombudsman investigating Labor rorts.

    The Victorian Government has lost a legal appeal, clearing the way for the ombudsman to investigate allegations Labor MPs rorted their parliamentary entitlements.

    Earlier this year, the Supreme Court ruled the watchdog could investigate allegations MPs misused their taxpayer-funded entitlements by letting paid staffers work in campaign roles in the lead up to the 2014 state election.

    The Government challenged that ruling in the Court of Appeal, which has found the trial judge analysed the relevant legislation correctly…

    A Victoria Police investigation found using staff for party political purposes was not against the law.

    Victoria Police decided stealing money wasn’t against the law for Labor Party members.

    And the finale:

    Victorian Labor misused $388k for election campaign staff, ombudsman finds.

    Daniel Andrews tried to hide the theft of $400,000.

    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said all the money had been repaid.

    And Victoria Police backed Andrews – backed the stealing – 100 percent. It reminds me of that scene in Blue Murder when the cops drive Neddy to a diamond heist in a police car.

  136. Fat Tony

    “What’s happened here … is that a victim has been believed. And that’s thrown a whole lot of people into absolute disarray,” he told ABC Melbourne’s Jon Faine.

    Does that mean they now will believe Tit’s accuser and prosecute??

  137. Infidel Tiger

    How dystopian that we all believe the appeal will fail and Pell will require our far left, made from whole cloth High Court to clear him

    He won’t live long enough.

  138. Arky

    Today I went to the Broadmeadows shopping centre. Does Melbourne have anything else worth seeing?

    ..
    http://www.aarg.com.au/our-collection.html

  139. Mater

    Police action, although inadequate, was not driven by fear of backlash. “Waiting out” a terrorist in a hostage situation is SOP. It works more often than not. It didn’t this time.

    Says who? Can you give some examples?

    P.S. I think you might be referring to standard criminal siege situations, in which case, you might be right. Don’t confuse terrorist events with criminal activity…after all, being unwilling to acknowledge, and act in accordance with, the significant differences is the exact mistake the NSW police made.

  140. Arky

    Today I went to the Broadmeadows shopping centre. Does Melbourne have anything else worth seeing?

    ..
    http://www.melbournesteam.com.au/

  141. DrBeauGan

    Cassie, I liked the Cave Suzanne. The song is one of my favourites too.

  142. yackman

    Matthew 25:36; “I was in prison and ye visited me”

  143. zyconoclast

    House Democrats want Jeffrey Epstein s3x case reopened

    Fourteen Democratic members of Congress have asked the U.S. attorney general to reopen the criminal investigation into Jeffrey Epstein, the 66-year-old Palm Beach hedge fund manager accused of s3xually trafficking underage girls.

    The group, led by Florida Democrats Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Lois Frankel, and Jackie Speier of California, asked President Donald Trump’s new attorney general, William Barr, to reopen the controversial non-prosecution agreement under which Epstein and a group of unidentified co-conspirators received federal immunity for s3x trafficking crimes.

    The deal, negotiated by then-Miami U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta — who is now President Donald Trump’s labor secretary — allowed Epstein to plead guilty in state court to two felony prostitution charges. He served 13 months in the Palm Beach County jail, but had his private driver pick him up at the jail six days a week to go to his downtown office in West Palm Beach as part of an unusual work-release arrangement.

    Last week, a federal judge ruled that the 2008 deal, which was sealed, was illegal because it violated Epstein’s victims’ rights.

  144. Knuckle Dragger

    Struth,

    The Bourke Street matter wasn’t corruption – just massive incompetence by management.

    Police on the ground were frothing at the mouth to take whatever action necessary against the snivelling coward, and were for hours. They were specifically prevented from doing so by the brass, who as I referred to before haven’t seen an angry man in years (if at all). Add to that years of being trained to be a manager instead of a senior police officer by halfwitted, pony tail wearing consultants carrying whiteboard markers and butchers’ paper, and you have a gaggle of the most risk averse people in the country.

    Except a copper’s job is, from time to time, to put themselves in harm’s way – and where necessary to injure or kill those intent on threatening the lives of Mr and Mrs Public.

    And when the shit predictably hit the fa, they blamed everyone but those responsible – themselves.

    Stupidity, incompetence, unaligned with community expectations? You bet, in spades.

    Corruption? Nah.

    The P3ll thing? Now that’s a different kettle of stinking fish.

  145. JC

    DrBeauGan
    #2950660, posted on March 4, 2019 at 9:23 pm

    Cassie, I liked the Cave Suzanne. The song is one of my favourites too.

    Not even close when heard is French by Francoise Hardy.

  146. zyconoclast

    Spinning bow ties confirmed

    Republican Sen. Rand Paul said he will vote for a resolution denying President Donald Trump emergency powers to build his border wall, a move that could set up the first presidential veto of this administration.

    ‘I can’t vote to give extra-Constitutional powers to the president,’ Paul told a crowd of Republicans at the Southern Kentucky Lincoln Day Dinner Saturday night, according to the Bowling Green Daily News.

    ‘I can’t vote to give the president the power to spend money that hasn’t been appropriated by Congress,’ he said. ‘We may want more money for border security, but Congress didn’t authorize it. If we take away those checks and balances, it’s a dangerous thing.’

  147. Pickles

    If we’re in shit that deep that we’re depending on the HCA to drag us out then we’re in it deep.

  148. stackja

    The Revelation of Saint John:

    7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

  149. Cassie of Sydney

    Sorry JC but the Hardy version doesn’t compare to Cave’s version. It’s nice but Nick Cave’s one is the true homage to the great Leonard.

  150. Steve trickler

    I didn’t know about this bloke until a month or so back.



  151. Bruce of Newcastle

    ‘I can’t vote to give extra-Constitutional powers to the president,’ Paul told a crowd of Republicans

    I don’t know what disease has suddenly afflicted Mr Paul’s brain but it has turned it to craven mush.
    Trump’s emergency declaration is absolutely correct, legally and constitutionally as far as I can see. Not only that but about 90% of Republican voters back Trump in building the wall. What strange pharmaceutical is Paul imbibing?

  152. struth

    Police on the ground were frothing at the mouth to take whatever action necessary against the snivelling coward, and were for hours. They were specifically prevented from doing so by the brass, who as I referred to before haven’t seen an angry man in years (if at all). Add to that years of being trained to be a manager instead of a senior police officer by halfwitted, pony tail wearing consultants carrying whiteboard markers and butchers’ paper, and you have a gaggle of the most risk averse people in the country.

    Senior police aren’t brought up through the ranks but are diversity picks and political picks, is a form of corruption.
    The lack of action on gangs and Mussies and the Pell situation, is all Police corruption at the top.
    I’m not talking about our average cop, police corruption is from the top down, and it’s obvious and staring us in the face.

    What I will say about the average cop is that I have noticed that the percentage of them indoctrinated with leftism was rising terribly when I was last using a lot of police escorts.
    Also interesting to note the different standards per state.

  153. Notafan

    And remember that the Victorian Court of appeal is bound to follow a judgement of the high court

  154. JC

    Sorry JC but the Hardy version doesn’t compare to Cave’s version. It’s nice but Nick Cave’s one is the true homage to the great Leonard.

    Next up, you’re suggesting Cave was better looking than Hardy.

  155. RobK

    MV,
    Deepest sympathy and condolences.

  156. DrBeauGan

    JC
    #2950666, posted on March 4, 2019 at 9:27 pm
    DrBeauGan
    #2950660, posted on March 4, 2019 at 9:23 pm

    Cassie, I liked the Cave Suzanne. The song is one of my favourites too.

    Not even close when heard is French by Francoise Hardy.

    It’s very good, JC, but it seems wrong for a woman to sing it. You know, wrong for such an attractive chick to get romantic about another female. Kind of wasteful.

    I still like the Leonard Cohen version. He can’t sing, but it doesn’t matter.

  157. Old Lefty

    Now that the leering hunchback had shown his hand, we have confirmation that the whole thing has been a stitch-up orchestrated by the Stalinist pervert thuggocracy in Spring Street – which Smith has pretty well confirmed I spite of himself. The comment warning off of visitors says it all. The screws will be under orders from the Spring Street politburo to ensure the GP’ life is as lonely, miserable and short as they can make it, and the thuggocracy’s links into the underworld through its union mates will do the job if the screws won’t. Welcome to the Stalin-Beria USSR.

  158. JC

    but it seems wrong for a woman to sing

    Who cares, it’s in French. 🙂

  159. Knuckle Dragger

    Jesus wept but you’re a retard, numbers.

    ‘Waiting out’ terrorists, as you term it, is not and never has been SOP for anyone who doesn’t gain their experience from movies.

    The tactic works against drunk or drug affected morons who barricade themselves in their own homes and threaten to kill anyone coming near the joint. Give him six hours and maybe a nap and he can be negotiated out.

    It doesn’t work, and never has when someone acting on behalf of a terrorist organisation, armed and very possibly in possession of an IED takes multiple hostages in a public place. The NSW cops were far from blameless, but one way or another it was always going to end in tears.

    If anything they should have gone in earlier.

    Cordon and contain, and ‘waiting out’ only works when hostages aren’t involved. But you already knew that.

    Oh, hang on, you didn’t know that. But you said it anyway.

  160. Old Lefty

    MV

    We’ve never met, but my condolences and best wishes.

  161. feelthebern

    “The notion that if you don’t like a verdict, you can just say they got it wrong, that’s not how ours system works,”

    Yes, Dan, that’s exactly how our system works.
    FMD, Dan needs to take a civics class.

  162. DrBeauGan

    JC
    #2950694, posted on March 4, 2019 at 9:45 pm
    but it seems wrong for a woman to sing

    Who cares, it’s in French.

    Yes, but I know the words.

    If she replaced Suzanne by Beaugy each time I’d like it a lot better.

  163. JC

    Anyone watch Milligan’s 4 Corners propaganda. It was a truly shocking hit job. Another one.

    We’re asked to believe this. To paraphrase Milligan in summary.

    The boys were attacked by Pell and a few weeks later one of the boys was attacked by Pell in the same area of the Church. I guess he was looking for another swig of that wine, right?

  164. Knuckle Dragger

    Agreed with the escorts thing, Struth.

    Everyone hates traffic cops, and rightly so.

    There’s a reason they’re referred to as ‘jury f*ckers.*

  165. Eyrie

    Dreadfully sorry to hear the news MV. Condolences. So sad.

  166. dover_beach

    Sincere condolences, Memory Vault.
    May she rest in peace. And peace be with you too.
    You were lucky to have such a love; and she was lucky to have you.

    Ditto from me, MV.

  167. feelthebern

    Have any Cats had any dealings with Dan Tehan?
    No idea where he sits on any issues, but I’ve heard some cracking stories of him intervening on behalf of his constituents.
    Maybe it’s a case of pollies work their rings off when elections loom.
    Or maybe he’s half decent.

  168. struth

    Irrelevent (sic).

    The word is irrelevant.
    My points are not.
    You can’t refute them, so you ignore them.

    If you know what’s good for you.

    I’m terrified…..

    I am using your inability to look at yourself.
    I’m doing this for Lurkers not you.

    I’m exposing the evil that is in your heart.
    Your very real lack of empathy and civility.
    Common left wing traits.
    In the last scenario, what we showed was the fact that while we were talking about the lack of Police action in taking out the Bourke street Mussie befoe he killed a heap of people, your Prime concern about that was that no one call him a mussie.
    Sickening virtue signalling siding with the mass murderer.
    You haven’t answered questions.
    You don’t know what you link to.
    Do you really think I for one moment think I can change you with reason and argument?
    Of course not.

    You have been constantly used as an example, and pulling it out of you is embarrassingly simple.

    You are just the tired old communist who does what all lefties do, and that’s repeat propaganda without question.
    That’s why you didn’t know what you had linked to.
    Because facts aren’t important.
    And if you had a brain in your head, you’d realise I’m not explaining this to you either.
    It’s not meant for you.

    You’re just a sour old communist , who stubbornly holds onto his murderous, insane, proven failure of a political ideology.

    I only engage you for the Lurkers, and you do the rest.

    It’s very , very , sad, hate filled person you show them.

    Apparently you are 71, and as much as I’d love to have a crack at you, I’d probably kill you, so you have no need to worry.
    You’re history anyway.

  169. rickw

    Russian machinetool refurbishment. Scraping slides while squatting on the floor in freezing conditions. Great work!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T8VpyWsZEQI

  170. Snoopy

    I visited Cook’s cottage as a kid. It’s the only thing I remember of that visit.

  171. pete m

    Take care of yourself MV. Condolences.

  172. Notafan

    For those interested M v R [1994] HCA 63; (1994) 181 CLR 487

  173. Perfidious Albino

    Condolences MV

  174. dover_beach

    He said he was particularly concerned with some Catholics saying they would visit Cardinal Pell in jail.
    “I don’t think that’s right. At this time, that is just not right.”

    Yeah, it is just not right to visit a man you think innocent when he is incarcerated. Why would anyone expect a friend to visit when you are down? Says a lot about this arsehat.

  175. 4 Corners. The swimming pool “victims” as I understand it were felt up by Pell whilst playing in the pool. Did I miss anything about abuse elsewhere ? The trauma they claim to have suffered seems out of proportion to what he is alleged to have done in a public swimming pool.

    At least they are playing his strong denials and his repeating “this is after mass”.

  176. feelthebern

    Based on this standard of proof, Bill Shorten should be worried.
    He won’t be, as VicPol is in the tank.
    But he should be.

  177. rickw

    Stupidity, incompetence, unaligned with community expectations? You bet, in spades.

    Corruption? Nah.

    The P3ll thing? Now that’s a different kettle of stinking fish.

    Do the punters still think it’s a fantastic idea that only the hunchbacks bent and incompetent enforcers have guns? Oh, and criminals and jihadi’s.

  178. feelthebern

    Hey Cassie, is it garbage night at your place?
    Even in leafy Wentworth the recycling crews are out in force going through the bins.
    Sounds like a convention out in the back ally at my place.

  179. mh

    During WW1 & 2, most uncircumcised troops from both the British, Commonwealth, and German sides sent to the middle east war zones were circumcised if they hadn’t been already done. There were thousands of ops done, because they were unable, with the limited logistic supplies, to bathe that regularly.
    And no, there was no anaesthetic

    The Middle East is the Bermuda Triangle for foreskins.

    Foreskins disappear.

  180. Typical ABC. Could not find anybody to say anything in favour of the defence or to attack the credibility of the prosecution evidence.

    Total garbage.

    I look forward to their next episode on how witnesses against Shorten and Setka should be believed.

    Pity we did not have ace Detective Doug Smith investigating them.

    Back to Smith. It has been mentioned he was in charge of the Pell investigation. That being the case surely he should have been the one to interview him. For him it should have been the pinnacle of his long time investigating sexual abuse cases.

  181. areff

    I visited Cook’s cottage as a kid. It’s the only thing I remember of that visit.

    Then you saw more of it than Captain Cook ever did.

  182. Welcome to the Catholic bashing hour a fucking disgrace

  183. Media Watch was reasonably fair mentioning doubts raised by Bolt, Silvester in The Age and The Guardian.

  184. Geriatric Mayfly

    Yeah, it is just not right to visit a man you think innocent when he is incarcerated. Why would anyone expect a friend to visit when you are down? Says a lot about this arsehat.

    And how many social workers (so called) are on this arse hat’s payroll to visit prisoners and whisper words of comfort on a daily basis. Dead Head Dan isn’t paying for this troupe of course, it’s us.

  185. Muddy

    I’m late with the news as always, but as with others, I’d like to express my condolences to Memory Vault.

  186. Black Ball

    Sorry to hear Memory Vault. As struth said, doesn’t matter if we ever meet. Still a difficult time, I trust there is solace with your family and friends to help you through this shit time.

  187. None

    Oh no I’ve only just learnt the news. Memory
    Vault my heart goes out to you and to your family. Eternal memory Mrs MV.

  188. C.L.

    He said he was particularly concerned with some Catholics saying they would visit Cardinal Pell in jail.

    Not only would I visit him; I’d break him out.

  189. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    I noticed some earlier posts about Police, and hostage situations. I think six people died im Melbourne, in a “Terrorist ” situation.
    The following clip shows the Chinese Police approach. No heavily armed “Tactical GrouP’., just one lady in casual clothes. Action around the 3.50 mark.

  190. Macbeth

    MV. So sad. Thoughts and prayers are with you.

  191. C.L.

    What is the utility of Daniel Andrews continuing to pretend to be a Catholic, by the way? He rejects in its entirety the Deposit of Faith, forces “Safe Schools” down the throats of children (about whose sexuality he is obsessed) and today he rejected the Works of Mercy, the 6th of which is … guess:

    6. To visit the imprisoned, or ransom the captive.

    Popes John XXIII, John Paul II and Francis have all visited prisoners.
    To calumniate those who would do so is a very serious sin.

  192. Muddy

    JB of Sydney/Shanghai
    #2950820, posted on March 4, 2019 at 11:01 pm

    Once you step over a line, there is no return. Transgress the known laws or rules of society, and there will be consequences.
    We are so deluded.

  193. cohenite

    JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    #2950820, posted on March 4, 2019 at 11:01 pm

    I noticed some earlier posts about Police, and hostage situations. I think six people died im Melbourne, in a “Terrorist ” situation.
    The following clip shows the Chinese Police approach. No heavily armed “Tactical GrouP’., just one lady in casual clothes. Action around the 3.50 mark.

    Numbers will have a conniption watching that.

  194. mh

    flyingduk
    #2950537, posted on March 4, 2019 at 7:36 pm
    Circumcision removes nearly 50% of the skin of the penis, taking with it enormous numbers of sensory receptors. It also exposes the sensitive glans to the elements, leading to callousing and loss of sensitivity. Even worse, if it is done in infancy, it inhibits the formation of a large number of sensory pleasure circuits in the brain, in much the same way as kids born deaf don’t properly develop the central speech and hearing circuits. Infant circumcision amounts to nothing more than genital mutilation and ritual child abuse. I find it interesting that ‘female circumcision’ is deservedly regarded as mutilation, whereas male circumcision is .. ‘meh’.

    Great post.

  195. Old School Conservative

    …got off by claiming that his wife managed all that sort of boring stuff and she must have forgot. Blame the little woman.

    Remember the good ‘ol days when a real man would quietly accept the fine rather than embarrassing his wife?
    But then Andrew O’keefe isn’t a real man.

  196. Mark A

    mh
    #2950830, posted on March 4, 2019 at 11:18 pm

    flyingduk
    #2950537, posted on March 4, 2019 at 7:36 pm
    Circumcision removes nearly 50% of the skin of the penis, taking with it enormous numbers of sensory receptors. It also exposes the sensitive glans to the elements, leading to callousing and loss of sensitivity. Even worse, if it is done in infancy, it inhibits the formation of a large number of sensory pleasure circuits in the brain, in much the same way as kids born deaf don’t properly develop the central speech and hearing circuits. Infant circumcision amounts to nothing more than genital mutilation and ritual child abuse. I find it interesting that ‘female circumcision’ is deservedly regarded as mutilation, whereas male circumcision is .. ‘meh’.

    Great post.

    Not wanting to join the fray, but one idea just occurred to me.
    One side is maintaining that no sensitivity is lost, how can they know when they have never experienced the protection the foreskin provides?

    All medical issues aside.

  197. zyconoclast

    when I was last using a lot of police escorts.

    Like this?

  198. Bushkid

    Sorry to hear that MV, It’s never easy.

    Thanks for sharing that, Zulu.

  199. Muddy

    Kaley Cuoco
    is the answer to every question asked on the present thread.

    (‘Cept for the MV questions, that is).

  200. struth

    We have quite a few Estonian girls working in Arnhem land, in the camps.
    The most beautiful young things you have ever laid you eyes on.
    Gorgeous blondes, near all of them.
    Stuff of dreams.
    No tattoos (that I can see) and real decent young girls.
    We miss out on a fair bit in this country.
    I feel sorry for the young blokes

  201. struth

    I’m not sure Zyconoclast.
    Could be……………………it’s hard to tell.
    Maybe some more photos could jog my memory.

  202. Top Ender

    SpaceX rocket docks with International Space Station

    A sleek new American-built capsule with just a test dummy aboard docked smoothly with the International Space Station on Sunday in a big step toward putting the US back in the business of launching astronauts.

    The white, bullet-shaped Dragon capsule, developed by Elon Musk’s SpaceX company under contract to NASA, closed in on the orbiting station nearly 260 miles (418km) above the Pacific Ocean and, flying autonomously, linked up on its own, without the help of the robotic arm normally used to guide spacecraft into position. Dragon is the first American-made spacecraft capable of carrying a crew to pull up to the space station in eight years.

    If this six-day test flight goes well, a Dragon capsule could take two NASA astronauts to the orbiting outpost this summer.

    “A new generation of space flight starts now with the arrival of (at) SpaceX’s Crew Dragon to the (at) Space-Station,” NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine tweeted.

    “Congratulations to all for this historic achievement getting us closer to flying American Astronauts on American rockets.”

    Ever since NASA retired the space shuttle in 2011, the US has been hitching rides to and from the space station aboard Russian Soyuz spacecraft. In the meantime, NASA is paying two companies — SpaceX and Boeing — to build and operate its next generation of rocket ships.

    SpaceX’s 8m long capsule rocketed into orbit early Saturday from NASA’s Kennedy Space Center with an instrumented mannequin strapped into one of its four seats in a dashing, white-and-black, form-fitting SpaceX spacesuit. The test dummy was nicknamed Ripley after the main character in the “Alien” movies.

    Ripley and the capsule are rigged with sensors to measure noise, vibration and stresses and monitor the life-support, propulsion and other critical systems. As the capsule closed in on the space station, its nose cap was wide open like a dragon’s mouth to expose the docking mechanism. In a docking with a crew aboard, the capsule would likewise operate autonomously, though the astronauts might push a button or two and would be able to intervene if necessary.

    The three US, Canadian and Russian crew members aboard the space station watched the rendezvous via TV cameras. Within hours, the capsule’s hatch swung open and the three astronauts floated inside to remove supplies and take air samples, wearing oxygen masks and hoods until they got the all-clear. Canadian astronaut David Saint-Jacques pronounced the docking flawless and called it “a beautiful thing to see.”

    “Welcome to the new era in spaceflight,” he said.

    Dragon will remain at the space station until Friday, when it will undock for an old-school, “Right Stuff”-style splashdown in the Atlantic, a few hundred miles off Florida.

    As part of Sunday’s shakedown, the space station astronauts sent commands for Dragon to retreat and then move forward again, before the capsule closed in for good. SpaceX employees at company headquarters in Hawthorne, California, cheered the docking, then burst into applause again when the Dragon’s latches were secured.

    The two astronauts who are set to fly aboard Dragon as early as July, Doug Hurley and Bob Behnken, witnessed the Florida liftoff, then rushed to Southern California to watch Sunday’s action.

    “Just super excited to see it,” Behnken said minutes after the linkup. “Just one more milestone that gets us ready for our flight coming up here.”

    Next up, though, is Boeing, which is looking to launch its Starliner capsule without a crew as early as April and with a crew possibly in August. SpaceX already has made 16 trips to the space station using cargo Dragons. The version designed for humans is slightly bigger and safer.

    It can carry as many as seven people and has three windows, emergency-abort engines that can pull the capsule to safety, and streamlined controls, with just 30 buttons and touch screens, compared with the space shuttle cockpit’s 2000 switches and circuit breakers.

    Oz

  203. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thanks for sharing that, Zulu.

    Least I could do.

  204. mh

    Not wanting to join the fray, but one idea just occurred to me.
    One side is maintaining that no sensitivity is lost, how can they know when they have never experienced the protection the foreskin provides?

    All medical issues aside.

    I remember watching a British comedy show years back, and one of the guys was talking about so much bullshit being spoken when it came to the topic of sex. He gave an example of blow jobs, saying that you don’t feel anything. I remembered it because I knew he Jewish, and wondered at the time of the effects of circumcision.

  205. JB of Sydney/Shanghai

    Here’s another, on negotiation.

  206. zyconoclast

    I’m not sure Zyconoclast.
    Could be……………………it’s hard to tell.
    Maybe some more photos could jog my memory.

    OK, because you asked nicely and in the interest of memory science.

  207. struth

    Thanks for that link Cohenite.

    Well said that man, well said.

    There is no excuse for the Numbers of this world.
    No excuse.

  208. mh

    Not wanting to join the fray, but one idea just occurred to me.
    One side is maintaining that no sensitivity is lost, how can they know when they have never experienced the protection the foreskin provides?

    All medical issues aside.

    I remember watching a British comedy show years back, and one of the guys was talking about so much bullshit being spoken when it came to the topic of sex. He gave an example of blow jobs, saying that you don’t feel anything. I remembered it because I knew he J*wish, and wondered at the time of the effects of circumcision.

  209. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We have quite a few Estonian girls working in Arnhem land, in the camps.
    The most beautiful young things you have ever laid you eyes on.
    Gorgeous blondes, near all of them.

    The landlord of a certain Wheatbelt town – Muckinbudin, to be precise – employed two Irish backpackers behind the bar – rather smashing pieces of gear they were, indeed. The boys off the mine at Southern Cross drove over a hundred kilometers one way – to check them out…

  210. struth

    oh um er ooh erwha…erm ah….struth!

  211. struth

    Nope not the ones I worked with, Zyconoclast.
    They didn’t have weapons like that.

  212. Bruce in WA

    For those Cats who were asking after Mrs Memory Vault – not good news.

    MV, have never met you and know nothing about you, but that simply written piece of news has left me sad, sorry for you and your family, and wishing there was something I could do our say.

    But there’s not.

    As I’ve grown older and thought about what will soon happen to my wife and me, I’ve found this to sum it up.

    Sad, but powerful.

  213. Infidel Tiger

    Another dead singer. Seemed normal enough.
    I wonder what prompted his suicide?

    Keith Flint ‘suicide’ – Prodigy legend famed for Firestarter and wild haircut dead after ‘taking his own life’ aged 49

    Too many eccies.

    Prodigy were an awesome band.

  214. zyconoclast

    George P3ll: Cardinal to be sued over 1970s abuse allegation

    Cardinal George P3ll is being sued by a man who alleges he was s3xually abused by the cleric in an Australian swimming pool in the 1970s.

    P3ll has consistently denied committing abuse in a pool in Ballarat, Victoria, in the 1970s. Last week, prosecutors dropped criminal charges against him relating to that decade.

    He is now being sued in a civil case.

    In December, P3ll was found guilty of sexually abusing two boys in Melbourne in 1996. He is challenging the verdict.

    Allegations that P3ll indecently assaulted boys in the 1970s had been due to be put to a second trial, but it will no longer go ahead.

    On Monday, a 50-year-old man – who does not want to be identified – lodged a civil lawsuit in the Supreme Court of Victoria, alleging that he was assaulted by P3ll in a Ballarat pool as a boy.

    The man had been due to testify in the criminal trial and was “devastated” that it had collapsed, according his lawyer.

    “He said he felt empty and that a major injustice had occurred,” said Lee Flanagan from firm Arnold Thomas & Becker.

    The man was a ward of the state at the time of the alleged abuse.

    He is also seeking compensation from Victoria’s state government, his former boys’ home, and the Catholic Archdiocese of Melbourne over alleged breaches of duty of care.

    P3ll’s legal team is yet to respond to the lawsuit.

  215. Old School Conservative

    Condolences MV.
    Stay strong sir.

  216. None

    C.L I have questioned Dan Andrew’s Catholicism a few times on Bolt’s blog and of course my comments never get published. Dan Andrews of course also pushed the euthanasia Bill I mean that’s just Mengeleswue and no one who does that can be a Catholic. I get that some archbishops might be reticent to publicly chastise people like Dan Andrews or even to deny him communion – not that I think he goes to church much – because of the very real risk that they will get all veangeful and shut down Catholic schools etc etc. But you know, the persecuted church is always a stronger church and sometimes U think, go on bring it Dan, you big eared f****** a******.

  217. None

    Bruce that’s one of my favourite tunes and very apt.

  218. C.L.

    He is also seeking compensation from Victoria’s state government, his former boys’ home, and the Catholic Archdiocese of Melbourne over alleged breaches of duty of care.

    Also?
    LOL.

  219. C.L.

    Treasurer Josh Frydenberg is being targeted by a new campaign to drive him from Parliament in a powerful bid by the Greens, who are running veteran barrister Julian Burnside as their candidate for Kooyong at the May election.

    Congratulations, Josh.
    That luvvie-Liberal strategy of yours really worked a treat.

  220. zyconoclast

    Congratulations, Josh.
    That luvvie-Liberal strategy of yours really worked a treat.

    Two points:
    1. I think Josh is ineligible due to section 44 and his dodgy citizenship. So goo riddance.
    2. If only he had thought of a children’s colouring book.

  221. Bruce in WA

    Bruce that’s one of my favourite tunes and very apt.

    I have it recorded on the off-chance (God I hope I’m wrong) my wife goes before I do.

  222. egg_

    He is also seeking compensation from Victoria’s state government, his former boys’ home, and the Catholic Archdiocese of Melbourne over alleged breaches of duty of care.

    Opportuni$t much?

  223. Woolfe

    Ok 8am off to breakfast then off skiing, Travel day tomorrow, Miami here we come!

    USA is just awesome, lovely people, great food and service, just don’t think about the exchange rate, diet when we get back though

  224. Tom

    Sadly, the West Australian updates its Dean Alston gallery only once every six weeks or so (still better than Newscorp, which no longer maintains its Mark Knight or Warren Brown galleries at all). From the latest batch of Dean Alstons: MKR.

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