Q&A Forum: March 4, 2019

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  1. Interruption Lotto is open

    Carpe 56
    Beer whisperer 42
    Mark A 32

  2. This will be the get Pell edition

    May God have mercy on their souls

    Because i won’t

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    38, please Carpe.

  4. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Beer whisperer 42
    Mark A 32
    ZK2A 38

  5. This is going to be a tough one for Moylan. Saying anything in support of Pell is going to attract considerable criticism. The debate is such that lack of evidence no longer an issue.

  6. Vic in Prossy

    May I have 29 please, Carpe?

  7. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Beer whisperer 42
    Mark A 32
    ZK2A 38
    Vic in Prossy 29

  8. RobK

    I’ll go 15 please Carpe.

  9. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Beer whisperer 42
    Mark A 32
    ZK2A 38
    Vic in Prossy 29
    Rob K 15

  10. areff

    4 Corners was as symphony of omissions. No mention of the DPP’s rejections? Ah, ABC needs a bigger budget to do a better job, obviously

  11. I presume some already watched 4 Corners. Just about to start in Brisbane.

  12. Media witch has gone PellSatan666 off my twitter feed

  13. Beertruk

    Can I have 48 please Carpe?

  14. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Beer whisperer 42
    Mark A 32
    ZK2A 38
    Vic in Prossy 29
    Rob K 15
    Beertruk 48

  15. Davey Boy

    Requesting 17 please

  16. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Beer whisperer 42
    Mark A 32
    ZK2A 38
    Vic in Prossy 29
    Rob K 15
    Beertruk 48
    Davey Boy 17

  17. It’s time

    suspend belief

    Buckle up your kilt, yell FREEEEEEEDOM, and;

    llleeetttsss get rreeaaadddyyyy to rrruuummmbbllleeee

  18. Davey Boy

    “A church in crisis, a shrinking cabinet and ” something about a rabbi.

  19. Cpt Seahawks

    20 please Carpe.

  20. Peter Castieau

    I will fall asleep on the couch.

    Evening everyone. G’Day Carpe!

    53 please.

  21. a happy little debunker

    4 Corners was as symphony of omissions

    Their chosen closing lines about the Pell charges were an unexpected & open admission.

    ‘no-one is above the law and neither is the catholic church’

  22. areff

    Wonder if Rabbi Shmuley will get asked about what he knew about Michael Jackson?

  23. Starting with PellSatan666

    Demonising him

    Kenealy is an odious cretin

  24. Davey Boy

    Tonight we’l be discussing the implications of GPs verdict noting GP is appealing
    Audience notes that many powerful people and lawyers are commenting
    is this affecting public perception of an apppeal?
    Nobody’s girl – “unless you were there you are doing a disservice to teh legal system. Boo to John Howard and Abbott 666 they are disrepectful to the courts and the victims. Due process was followed the outcome has integgrity.” In other words The science is settled says Nobody’s Girl.

  25. Interruption Lotto

    Carpe 56
    Beer whisperer 42
    Mark A 32
    ZK2A 38
    Vic in Prossy 29
    Rob K 15
    Beertruk 48
    Davey Boy 17
    Cpt Seahawks 20
    Custard 53

  26. KenRed Glases throws Pell under the bus for crowd approval

    Uses the Noel Prearson method po slow speaking, wants people to shut up.

  27. Prosecuting bottomfeeder believes her case is ok

    Swine.

  28. Davey Boy

    Francis Sullivan – pepole are worried about the process from here. George Pell is a very divisive character. We don’t want to put the victim on trial by suggesting that they were wrong. For too long victims of the church were oppreessed etc – everyone should just shut up (audience claps).
    I thought that here was one alleged victim who gave an uncorroborated story, was not cross examined (?) and there was no forensic evidence

  29. Cpt Seahawks

    Are they delusional? This stinks!

  30. Rabbi shithead has equated pell with a murderer

    FMD

  31. RobK

    Rabbi is a good speaker.

  32. Davey Boy

    Tony – what do you think Mr Rabbi?
    (The ABC has form in asking yanks who fly in and out “what do you think of Australia” as if their opinion holds more weight)
    Mr Rabbi – “Australia is deeply traumatised. George said something 7 years ago that the j-wish community didn’t like. I was Michael Jackson’s Rabbi”
    Gosh this guy is a balanced source. Not.

  33. Cpt Seahawks

    Red glasses looks like a NPC meme.

  34. Cpt Seahawks

    I’m Catholic, by birth anyways, not traumatised at all.

  35. Davey Boy

    Audience Redhead – said something about we’re the victim
    Nobody’s Girl – my whole life was centred on the church before politics. catholics are traumatised. I decided not long ago I couldn’t prop up a decaying institution with my voluntary labo(u)r. Catholic women should do the same as Me. I find that many Catholics are losing interest, the nation is traumatised.
    Yep she speaks for all the Catholic wyminzes
    Molan – believes that the church has failed women. I’m a lazy Catholic
    Tony – the Inquisition! (I wonder when he’ll bring up the Crusades, just as relevant in his mind I suspect)

  36. Beertruk

    No body expects the Spanish Inquisition!

  37. RobK

    Trauma, as a word is getting a bit over worked tonight.

  38. No body expects the Spanish Inquisition!

    Happening on this show

  39. Davey Boy

    VW brings up Royal Commish, we need to accept there is a real problem with the Catholic Church. Clergy believe they are gawd on earth when ordained, they believe they are sacrosanct, parishioners can’t commune directly with gawd, they have an attitude of superiority. Parishioners are hardworking. Despair is caused in families. I can only say to Catholics “don’t let your church be stolen by corruption
    Tony – should the laity seize control?
    Francis the (Talking Mule) Lay Leader – the Church treats adults like kids
    (What a pile on. It would be nice to have a voice on the panel in defence but no this is the ABC)

  40. Knobhead uses the word “paradigm” it is official – he is a douchenozzle.

  41. Davey Boy

    Albert Morris in the Audience – unnatural state of celibacy (incels?) imposed by the Church – Catholics who have power, sexually abusing people, is therefore a natural outcome. (Logic Fail)

  42. RobK

    “The abuse of power” is a fair comment, is this context, i think.

  43. Crusty old fart hates celibacy, the dude is blowing dust

  44. Beertruk

    The turnout will be over before the old fart finishes he statement.

  45. egg_

    Mr Rabbi – “Australia is deeply traumatised. George said something 7 years ago that the j-wish community didn’t like. I was Michael Jackson’s Rabbi”

    Looks like he’s there for revenge.

  46. Elle

    Rabbi is a good speaker.

    Hear hear!

    Have met him.

    Controversial.

    Inspirational!

    IMO

  47. Davey Boy

    Rabbi plugs his Sex Book. recreational sex leads to #metoo. Cracks a joke and then says he believes in sex (so does Harvey Weinstein apparently)

  48. Beertruk

    Toxic masculinity gets a run.

  49. Davey Boy

    Mr Rabbi – religion should lead the way in fixing sex.
    O K .

  50. Rabbi shlemozzle hates celibacy, how twee.

    His focus is on sex sex sex, he is a John Cleese parody

  51. KK who bonked her way to the top talks celibacy

    Next up Ted Bundy talks mercy and compassion.

  52. egg_

    No body expects the Spanish Inquisition!

    Everyone expects the Q&A Inqueersition.

  53. Davey Boy

    Nobody’s Girl- celibacy should not be mandatory. Priesthood / ordination is broken. The clerical class of the Catholic Church is broken. Ordination is a power trip, make it available to married men and wyminzes!

  54. Davey Boy

    Female Baptist minister in audience -what difference would it make to the Church with women in the church?
    Nobody’s Girl – the world of difference!
    Jim MOlan – the Clerical Class has failed!

  55. Molan should be shredding this crowd, pussy.

  56. max

    Nobody says Catholicism is compulsory for Christians. If celibate priests upset you so much why don’t you find another denomination, you idiots.

  57. Davey Boy

    VW Lawyer – Royal Commish looked at individual factors that caused offending in the Church – mental immaturity! Power trips! A risk factor identified for children is where their parents hold the institution in high esteem – makes it harder to comprehend that the institution could be wrong.
    (careful non-mention of infiltration by a demographic)

  58. Some were recruited at 14, my father went to work at 14 in 1937 as a boy labourer & became an apprentice at 15.

    Tony Barber was a Midshipman at 13

    sod off you idiots.

  59. Davey Boy

    Francis the (Talking Mule) Lay Leader – the pyscho secsual tension was a factor. Whereto for the Church now? There is a shortage of priests in Oz,m we have to bring them in from outside – pepole can’t relate to them! We want Australians talking about Australian lifestyles
    (wot a xenophobe is Mr Francis)

  60. these people are evil

    They have no idea of Christianity.

  61. Davey Boy

    Won’t somebody think of the children (TM) question from the audience

  62. dover_beach

    So it’s an out and out attack on Catholicism and Christianity at the ABC. Come at me, bro.

  63. Davey Boy

    Francis the (Talking Mule) Lay Leader: Clericalism – sick! Evil! Men make too much excuses for behaviour of other men! Yes, won’t someone think of the children (TM)

  64. Beertruk

    dover_beach
    #2950754, posted on March 4, 2019 at 10:20 pm

    Pretty much, Dover.

  65. RobK

    Frank is right. These people are sick. I doubt celibacy is the main cause of pe-do, in general.

  66. Davey Boy

    Francis the (talking mule) Lay Leader is giving the Church a bollocking with a free run from Tony.

  67. egg_

    Tony Jones is joined by NSW Liberal Senator Jim Molan, NSW Labor Senator Kristina Keneally, Catholic Lay Leader Francis Sullivan, institutional abuse lawyer Dr Viv Waller and rabbi and relationship counsellor Shmuley Boteach.

  68. Davey Boy

    Nobody’s Girl: Mo (taxpayer) Money! Shut Down the Melbourne Response. Gummint needs to intervene

  69. egg_

    Red specs has to be a fvcktard indicator, surely?

  70. egg_

    Nobody’s Girl: Mo (taxpayer) Money!

    Of course – the obvious cure for all ills!

  71. Davey Boy

    Rabbi – #metoo sex abuse happened in a secular environment (Hollywood). Finally – mentions that Catholic Church has done and continues to do many good works. Support the Pope in his Changes! he says.
    Nobody’s Girl – sorry, these institutions do the opposite of what they preach. Clerical Class bad! Where is the Church’s act of contrition?
    Holey Molan – Church problem is that we relate to gawd via the Clerical class. Bad!

  72. Welcome to the Catholic bashing hour, a fucking disgrace

  73. egg_

    institutional abuse lawyer Dr Viv Walle

    An assault on the optic nerve!

  74. None

    I can assure all the Catholic bashers on QandA that pedophile priests hate the Catholic church as much as they do.

  75. Beertruk

    ‘Reporting abuse to the police.’ Didn’t Cardinal Pell introduce that?

  76. Davey Boy

    VW Lawyer – if you have reasonable grounds that abuse is happening you report it to the Police.
    (worked with Jimmy Savile, dinnit)

  77. None

    The Anglicans have married clergy. Didn’t stop the child sex abuse in their ranks.

  78. max

    Breaking news: 97% of Catholic priests are not sexual abusers.

  79. Peter

    So p_do priests are celibate? Who knew?

  80. Davey Boy

    Tony Jones – if you are distressed call LifeLine (or just change the channel)
    New subject – Morrison Govt falling apart!
    Holey Molan – we just need Fundamental Good Policy
    (yes the Liberal Party can shove its Policy up its Fundament, I say)

  81. None

    I can assure all the Catholic bashers on QandA that p*doph*le priests hate the Catholic church as much as they do.

    Beertruk

  82. PT

    I am a practicing catholic and have not been able to stomach watching QandA for the last year at least.
    So I come to this website if I want to know what is happening on this show.
    I would like thank all of you commenting here for not jumping on the bandwagon of Catholic bashing.

  83. Davey Boy

    Nobodys Girl – Liberals have no Policies! Except Tony Abbot666’s. Emissions are going up! Power prices are going up! Chaos! Division! Election Now!
    (written and authorised by Bill Shtten)

  84. Geriatric Mayfly

    institutional abuse lawyer Dr Viv Walle
    An assault on the optic nerve!

    Indicated several times on the OT she’s a cracker.

  85. Davey Boy

    Question from Mehment. Sorry Mehmet I couldn’t understand a word you said
    Nobody’s Girl – brazenly say’s that Liberals are just about “jobs for the boys” and “recklessly appointing plum jobs to their mates overseas” . Quotes Joe Hockey as an example (that’s a fair cop. SFL’s)

  86. I would like thank all of you commenting here for not jumping on the bandwagon of Catholic bashing.

    Stay strong PT

  87. RobK

    TJ can’t help himself with a few digs at Moylan.

  88. Davey Boy

    Now that politics is the subject there is much mirth and levity on the panel
    i.e. it’s a joke and they don’t bother to hide it

  89. Last question – porn

    never saw that coming.

  90. PT

    I really appreciate that Carpe, thank you.

  91. Rabbi shithead – celibacy is wrong.

    facepalm.

  92. Davey Boy

    Question from Esther to Mr Rabbi about pawn-o-graphy. There is an obvious need for it given so much loneliness. Should we cure loneliness
    Mr Rabi – how is pawn-o-grahy good – it allows men to objectifies women!
    (this is a one dimensional view, there’;s no such thing as gay pawn or should that be goy pawn)

  93. Davey Boy

    Mr Rabbi – Men should learn to respect Wyminzes! Loneliness is real, I will be the Love Rabbi – I want women to step up and say this is not good enough! or something.

  94. Kennelly view is like Hadley. Can’t question the evidence.

  95. egg_

    Mr Rabi – how is pawn-o-grahy good – it allows men to objectifies women!

    Funny, wymminz ideal male size in surveys now aligns with pr0n stars.

  96. egg_

    it allows men to objectifies women!

    Viv doesn’t have that problem.

  97. No guts shown by Sullivan or Moylan.

  98. egg_

    Moylan’s snowcone’s gimp.

  99. None

    Courage PT. I’m not a Catholic but no there a lot of non Catholics like me who are incensed at the Catholic bashing.

  100. this is a waste of time

    KK bash Catholics, smiling assassin

  101. Davey Boy

    Closing staatements:
    Mr Rabbi rabbit son about rabbitting oneself to pawn. Men are bad.
    VW Lawyer – it’s an interesting debate (which means – not interested in that subject) Changes the subject to abuse. Effect of childhood abuse can be long lasting (no one is disagreeing)
    Francis the (talking mule) Lay Leader – the Rabbi is exceptional. We need to get realistic about sixuality in teh Chrch
    Holey Molan – I wrote a foreward to a book! Catholics priests don’t talk like the Rabbi here! We’re so uptight! They don’t talk about international things! derrrrrr
    Nobody’s Girl: Catholic Church is hung up on sex! (and this panel isn’t??) They can’t talk to Ordinary People . Violence against wyminzes starts with Disrepect! The Rabbi is right!
    Verdict:
    Schmucks one and all.

  102. Cpt Seahawks

    Catholics will have the last laugh, in Heaven. .

  103. That was a fucking disgrace

    Interruptions came in at 26 FMD that was evil.

  104. None

    Keneally blocked me on Twitter when I challenged some of her heretical theology She rabbits on about being some sort of theologian. No she’s got some 2 bit religious studies degree which does not make her a theologian.

  105. I’m done oyasumi nasai

    Good night troops

  106. RobK

    Thanks Carpe. Night all.

  107. None

    Goodnight Carpe. You stay strong as well.

  108. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thank you, and good night, Carpe.

  109. egg_

    Nobody’s Girl: Catholic Church is hung up on sex! (and this panel isn’t??) They can’t talk to Ordinary People . Violence against wyminzes starts with Disrepect! The Rabbi is right!

    Catholic Church 666!11!!

  110. Seco

    It’s because of the massive investment of the media and the rest of the anti Catholic forces of their time and energy that I believe Cardinal Pell’s appeal will fail. What judge will stick their neck out to out the truth? None, I say.

    Cardinal Pell will die a martyr. Either in prison, or if in the unlikely event of a successful appeal, by the hands of someone consumed by hatred and guilt on the steps of the courthouse after being led their by the insipid and corrupt police force. A person influenced by the media obsession to destroy the Church.

    He will die an innocent man. God bless you Cardinal Pell.

  111. hzhousewife

    that I believe Cardinal Pell’s appeal will fail. What judge will stick their neck out to out the truth? None, I say.

    Oh Seco, this is so awful.

    Where is respect for the law from the very people who work to create and uphold it. I simply cannot believe that every judicial officer in Victoria supports this situation occurring.

    In my hopeful moments I contemplate that Cardinal Pell is continuing his ministry in prison. Yes, God Bless Cardinal Pell.

  112. Seco

    I hope, but life isn’t just sometimes. I’m sure the Cardinal knows this.

  113. hzhousewife

    Yes, interestingly enough, for anyone to have to go through a trial such as this in life, Cardinal Pell is exactly the kind of person and has the faith to bear the cross.

  114. Rafe Champion

    Did anyone list the panel?

  115. Rex Mango

    Watching 4Corners, did notice that old mate at pool (who too his credit was named and face not fuzzed up) said what he saw ‘disturbed him greatly’ waited thirty years to tell the authorities. This if true, makes him as complicit as the people everyone condemns, ie Archbishop Wilson. PS – That said was hatchet job of the highest order – note the way at 25.15 now deceased ‘victim’ does classic headshake/eye shift of felon/potential guest of Her Majesty

  116. Tom

    The ABC is a festering sore on the nation — nothing more than a billion-dollar propaganda factory for the anti-Christian communist left.

    Sell it. Let the people who watch it own it. Taxpayers should no longer be forced to finance an institution devoted to fighting the public interest.

  117. Cassie of Sydney

    “BrettW
    #2950800, posted on March 4, 2019 at 10:48 pm
    No guts shown by Sullivan or Moylan.”

    I have long been disappointed in Molan….he’s spineless and a lightweight. If he’d been a maverick he would have stood a chance at being re-elected but no. Good riddance…there will be real conservatives to vote for in the senate.

  118. Nobody’s Girl- celibacy should not be mandatory. Priesthood / ordination is broken. The clerical class of the Catholic Church is broken. Ordination is a power trip, make it available to married men and wyminzes!

    Most people in my parish agree with this.
    The clergy was not always celibate. Wasn’t the case until 325 – Council of Nicea: After that it was decreed that after ordination a priest could not marry. Proclaimed the Nicene Creed.

  119. Old School Conservative

    Love your logic numbers – allow priests to marry, allow women to become priests and bingo!!! No more sexual molestation of boys.
    Rubbish.

    A more serious analysis would look at the cause of man-on-boy sex and stop those men from becoming ordained.

  120. Old School Conservative

    Most people in my parish agree with this.

    Well there you go numbers – I didn’t know Catholicism was a democracy.

  121. Ivan Denisovich

    A more serious analysis would look at the cause of man-on-boy sex and stop those men from becoming ordained.

    https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2019/02/24/celibacy-is-the-answer-not-the-problem/

  122. Rex Mango

    Watching 4Corners hatchet job, did note that the bloke at the pool (who too his credit was named and face not fuzzed up) said what he saw ‘disturbed him greatly’ waited thirty years to tell authorities. This if true, makes him as complicit as the people everyone condemns for not reporting abuse.

  123. Brian

    Quote from numbers: “The clergy was not always celibate. Wasn’t the case until 325 – Council of Nicea: After that it was decreed that after ordination a priest could not marry. Proclaimed the Nicene Creed.”

    Huh – firstly the Nicene Creed says nothing about this matter at all.
    A simple web search tells us – “The Church was a thousand years old before it definitively took a stand in favor of celibacy in the twelfth century at the Second Lateran Council held in 1139, when a rule was approved forbidding priests to marry. In 1563, the Council of Trent reaffirmed the tradition of celibacy.”

    It is curious though that the apostle Paul attributed such rule making to demons.
    1 Tim 4 “giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons…forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving”
    And his requirements for church pastors was that they be faithfully married to one woman.

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