Monday Forum: March 11, 2019

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  1. Mother Lode

    One of the things I have seen lately is the efforts to cultivate a divide between miners and farmers so farmers are doing the inner-urban luvvies work of demonising an industry that would have the regions flourishing.

    The ought to consider that, if they help the Greens etc cripple our ability to generate power and our industry, then there will be less money to flow to the farms.

    We already import food from around the world, typically of slightly dubious provenance but often cheaper than local produce since those nations have not been nobbled their own industries.

    “You can’t eat Coal” (Well, you can’t eat dirt either).

    “Farms, not Coal” (It is not an either/or).

    Why can’t they just be honest: “Centrelink! Not Effort!”

  2. C.L.

    Isn’t the idea of an Aboriginal flag cultural appropriation?

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’ve heard it argued that organic sulphur chemistry is under studied. A fast way for a chemist to lose friends.
    Mercaptans, Putrescine, Cadaverine …

    Inco – When I was doing honours organic chemistry the guy on the bench opposite was into organoselenium chemistry. Awesomely stinky! You’ve not lived unless you’ve had a whiff of an alkyl hydroselenide. Puts hairs on your chest. Consequently my chest looks like an Amazon jungle.

  4. calli

    Let’s BAN all marine vessels.

    Let’s start with Sea Shepherd and move on from there.

    In the fullness of time.

  5. Snoopy

    even small boats and the noise that the motors* make are disturbing fish

    That’s why trawlers, tuna boats and longliners never catch anything.

  6. alkyl hydroselenide – see that and raise you a organic tellurium compound.

  7. Old School Conservative

    Yes Mark I am deadly serious.
    The council’s rationale is that aboriginal culture must be respected and learned. It’s done every day because not all kiddies are there every day. This way all children get exposed even if they only attend one or two days.

  8. Mother Lode

    Isn’t the idea of an Aboriginal flag cultural appropriation?

    Indeed, it is the most hideous tea-towel I have ever seen.

  9. stackja

    LNP survivors will be an interesting lot?

  10. Mother Lode

    Let’s BAN all marine vessels.

    Wouldn’t it be easier to ban all research into the noise of marine vessels?

  11. stackja

    calli – Australian union controlled ships are environmentally friend.

  12. Myrddin Seren

    OSC

    The council’s rationale is that aboriginal culture must be respected and learned.

    One picture is usually worth a thousand words ( not doubting you, just want to see this ):

    And so off we go to Northern Beaches Council…..

    Children’s Services Policies

    All will soon be revealed……..

    To read our policies, apply here for your user I.D. and password. You’ll be asked to select the child care services your family uses and provide a user name and email address. When we email your user I.D. and temporary password you’ll need to change that password the first time you login.

    Once you have a user I.D., you can view and comment on the policies here(Opens in a new window).

    Ahahahaha

    Ve vill decide who can view der Kinder Politik, schweinhund !

    Doubtless there are compulsory ‘Tony Abbott is a stinky bum’ sessions too.

  13. Mother Lode

    The council’s rationale is that aboriginal culture must be respected and learned.

    Oh, that is nice.

    So I assume middle aged men are invited in to marry the 3 year old girls.

  14. Snoopy

    TheirABC is outraged that Tucker Carlson said something unkind about four of TheirABC’s favourite women.

    Tucker Carlson is heard criticising a number of high-profile women, including Britney Spears and Paris Hilton

    I think a trawl through TheirABC’s archives could prove illuminating.

    In separate interviews, he went on to say that Oprah Winfrey and Hillary Clinton both “hate the penis”.

    This is clearly a job for RMIT ABC Fact Check. Get to it Mr Trioli.

  15. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    There is no art which one government sooner learns of another than that of draining money from the pockets of the people.

    — Adam Smith

  16. Boambee John

    “But what we are agreed on is that we do need to back a neutral approach, a technology-neutral approach to getting reliable, baseload power into our energy system.”

    I agree entirely with Bridget McKenzie.

    Take a technology neutral approach, abolish the RET, abolish all cross-subsidisation from coal or gas to wind and solar, make all forms of energy generation cover the full cost of transmission lines to connect tbeir generation sites to the existing national grid, and may the best and cheapest reliable technology win.

    Have I missed anything?

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    Nine late morning news reports that Turnbull is slagging off the Libs for having a “women problem”.

    I didn’t think he was the worst PM we’ve ever had given Whitlam, Rudd and Gillard, but since he flounced off to NYC he sure is trying to cement his place in history.

  18. thefrollickingmole

    Mercaptans

    Stench gas, lovely stuff, guess whos Nobby No-Mates after a canister is set off at a underground mine…

  19. Take a technology neutral approach, abolish the RET, abolish all cross-subsidisation from coal or gas to wind and solar, make all forms of energy generation cover the full cost of transmission lines to connect tbeir generation sites to the existing national grid, and may the best and cheapest reliable technology win.

    Have I missed anything?

    Abolish Excise on fuels.
    Abolish all government subsidies, taxes, excises, levies, fees on energy.

  20. Snoopy

    stackja
    #2956311, posted on March 12, 2019 at 11:39 am
    calli – Australian union controlled ships are environmentally friend.

    I once had a neighbour who crewed on ANL ships on the Weipa-Gladstone bauxite run. In pride of place above his bar was a framed, signed photo of the head of the Seaman’s Union, Eliot Elliott.

  21. cohenite

    incoherent rambler

    #2956244, posted on March 12, 2019 at 10:06 am

    COAL is KING!

    Yes, just ask any candidate whether they support coal; if they say no tell them to get fucked.

  22. Snoopy

    Nine late morning news reports that Turnbull is slagging off the Libs for having a “women problem”.

    Of course they have. The preselection candidate for Curtin favoured by the Turnbull/Bishop axis of the Liberal Party scored just one vote.

  23. Myrddin Seren

    TheirABC is outraged that Tucker Carlson said something unkind about four of TheirABC’s favourite women.

    ABC Junior Journo spots #FireTuckerCarlson trending on her robbo-editorial-guide ( Twitter ) and rehashes US social media on Tucker.

    Let’s go to her/their highlights:

    Fox News host Tucker Carlson rejects ‘ritual contrition’ over sexist remarks in leaked audio

    If it was on a radio show, how were the comments ‘leaked’ – as opposed to ‘replayed by Media Splatters’ ?

    and the show ?

    ….were purportedly made between 2006 and 2011, during Mr Carlson’s time as a guest panellist on controversial radio program Bubba the Love Sponge.

    Clearly a literal neo-Nazi, KKK, white supremacist hive of toxic masculinity, privilege and patriarchy.

    Or maybe shits for giggles.

    The best part of the Trumpocene is that he has driven the Left literally insane.

  24. Dr Faustus

    “It is really clear when you’re out on the ground, talking to communities, as I have been, and small businesses, out in regional communities and our industries, that power prices is one of the number one issues. The cost of living is really biting out there, and so we need to be making sure that our policies address that.

    Most of the cost of delivered electricity is return to/of capital on massive capital intensive investments in generation and transmission infrastructure. By comparison fuel (except in the case of gas/JetA1) and opex are second order costs.

    Super-smart government energy policies over the years have delivered all that into the few hands of oligopolists – who are now happily gaming the market to obtain a 15%+ ROI – and the trembling excitement of a full pipeline of future investment opportunities at yet higher returns.

    Bananaby is smart enough to have worked out that a government-financed coal-fired power station, operated to deliver a 7% ROI, would chew into the ability of these government-sanctioned thieves to earn super profits at Australia’s expense.

    It is really clear that Bridget McKenzie is wasting a Senate space.

  25. John Constantine

    Ludicrous to give the general public such an important decision.

    Says their ABC, regarding brexit.

    From a Brit rortfarmer on a subsidy scheme getting paid for environment services to butterflies.

    Comrades.

  26. mh

    Rep. Omar on comparing Trump to Obama: Silly to equate the two, one is human the other is clearly not’

    Trump is God.

  27. Nobby No-Mates

    Arrgh! Was that you?
    What did you have for lunch?

  28. Lizzie:

    Cassie is right. If enough of us fired a few emails each time to companies whose products we use, (signed with real name and address), to counteract this nonsense, it would collapse under the weight of genuine customers (not Twitter cyphers) resisting it.

    The letters will need to be sent to the Board – not via the normal route where they will be intercepted and censored by the people who are doing the actual collating of the Sleeping Giant Shit.

  29. C.L.

    … Turnbull is slagging off the Libs for having a “women problem”.

    Does that mean it’s time to kill a cat?

  30. amortiser

    stackja
    #2956196, posted on March 12, 2019 at 8:19 am
    Thousands of Telstra (ASX: TLS) staff members to go on strike on …
    https://www.smh.com.au › Business › Companies › Telecommunications
    15 hours ago – Thousands of Telstra employees across Australia are expected to … ‘It’s time to take the workforce seriously’: Telstra staff to strike over pay offer.

    And who will notice?

    At last!! No more calls from the Telstra Technical Derartment.

  31. thefrollickingmole

    Arrgh! Was that you?
    What did you have for lunch?

    First time I encountered poor “No mates’ was a mine rescue drill where the supervisor nearly had a heart attack (seriously) from the stress.
    One bloke was off by himself so i went over and checked he was ok, I seriously thought hed crapped himself, but apparently the cylinder of stench gas blew back on him a bit as the release point was too close.

  32. C.L.

    I’m certain a staffer told him – “whatever you do, Bill” – not to choose Fridays:

    Mayor de Blasio: NYC will have ‘Meatless Mondays’ in all public schools.

  33. The good thing about sulphides and thiols is that they eventually paralyze your olfactory nerves.

  34. Boambee John

    Numbers

    Have you defined “Vice Masking” yet? Hurry, the Catictionary awaits your eloquence.

  35. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Boambee John #2956317, posted on March 12, 2019 at 11:49 am

    Take a technology neutral approach, abolish the RET, abolish all cross-subsidisation from coal or gas to wind and solar, make all forms of energy generation cover the full cost of transmission lines to connect tbeir generation sites to the existing national grid, and may the best and cheapest reliable technology win.

    Have I missed anything?

    Royalties. States get money when mineral wealth is pulled from the ground, and all landowners pay water rates for their properties, even if not connected to water.

    However, what about royalties for capturing the sun that falls on your panels, or the wind that turns your blades? Given the Commonwealth generally has control over things pertaining to the air (like the radio spectrum), perhaps they need to slap a royalty on large-scale solar- and wind-based power generation

  36. Herodotus

    There was a shindig at Westminster Abbey to celebrate 70 years of the Commonwealth. Music, speeches and the occasional prayer.
    One speaker related how he has swum in arctic waters – some sort of dare – several times, and he reckons the temperature has gone from 3C up to 10C in the time he’s been doing that. BoN might like to comment.
    Not content with a plug for climate change, he went on to decry the pollution of the oceans with plastics. We know it’s a problem, but we also know that most of it comes from Asia and Africa. That usually gets missed in the exhortations to we westerners to “do something”.

  37. calli

    Especially when it’s Westminster Abbey.

  38. cohenite

    However, what about royalties for capturing the sun that falls on your panels, or the wind that turns your blades? Given the Commonwealth generally has control over things pertaining to the air (like the radio spectrum), perhaps they need to slap a royalty on large-scale solar- and wind-based power generation

    Unlike the current situation where rich arab billionaires put up $11 mill of their own money for a useless solar farm and receive $300 million in subsidies back.

  39. Eyrie

    Nelson, please don’t give them ideas.

  40. Snoopy

    At least one person at TheirABC can find humour at the saddest of times.

    The West Australian Government has terminated its agreement with green energy developer Carnegie Clean Energy to deliver the Albany wave farm project amid growing uncertainty about the company’s financial position.

    Labor had declared the project would “power homes” and turn the Great Southern coastal town of Albany into a globally recognised renewable energy hub.

    But Carnegie is now struggling to stay afloat and remains in a trading halt, pending an announcement tomorrow about its solar microgrid arm EMC and a planned capital raising program.

    Well done the aptly named Ms Diss!

  41. Snoopy

    It takes admirable incompetence to go bust while hoovering up shedloads of taxpayers’ dosh.

  42. Eyrie

    The solar farm the rich Saudi owns generates 2% of lidell. Stunning.
    Moree Solar Farm is feeding 56MW of renewable solar energy into the national electricity market, enough to power 15,000 average homes.

    But only during the day.

  43. John Constantine

    ARE and AIS shareprice slump as drilling halts on dry Lake Torrens.

    It is illegal in australia to have water that was sitting under a dry salt lake end up sitting on the bed of the dry salt lake, and the drilling challenge is to go through the water zone without making the salt pan muddy.

    Comrades.

  44. notafan

    But only during the day.

    and mainly in the very middle of the day, when most people are at work.

    The description of what power is feed in to the grid by solar is ALWAYS misleading

    Also is that the actual, or just the capacity?

    If only solar generation could be isolated from the mains and those boasters could have their green homes supplied exclusively by solar, then they could truly bask in their sunlit glory.

  45. calli

    If they really believed their own bullsh*t, they’d go off-grid.

  46. Eyrie

    notafan, everyone who says they want green electricity or is against coal and nukes should have their home/business fitted with smart meters. When the unreliables have a shortfall they get turned off, leaving the sensible people with the coal/hydro power. We could probably help SE Australia power by bulldozing Canberra.

  47. OldOzzie

    ‘Everybody hates a welfare rorter’: Latham spruiks DNA testing plan for Aboriginal people

    One Nation NSW’s Mark Latham says the party will introduce laws to force anyone claiming Aboriginal ancestry to prove it with a DNA test in a bid to stop “welfare rorters”.

    Two weeks out from polling day, Mr Latham said One Nation, if elected, would work to abolish self-identification and replace it with a system requiring DNA evidence.

    “Australians are sick and tired of seeing people with blonde hair and blue eyes declaring themselves to be Indigenous, when clearly they have no recognisable Aboriginal background and are doing it solely to qualify for extra money,” One Nation’s policy statement says.

    “We will tighten the eligibility rules for Aboriginal identity to require DNA evidence of at least 25 per cent Indigenous – the equivalent of one fully Aboriginal grandparent.”

    ‘They’re my policies’: Mark Latham’s return from political wilderness

    Mr Latham said under the current system of self-identification, “rorters and opportunists were masquerading as Indigenous” and accessing special Aboriginal programs and welfare benefits.

    Self-identification refers to the voluntary and confidential declaration of Aboriginal identity and allows employers and institutions to keep track of how many Aboriginal people are applying for jobs or using services and make improvements where required.

    The way a person looks or lives is not relevant.

    Mr Latham said the minor party’s proposed law would “weed out” rorters and create a more “honest and fair” welfare system.

    “Everybody hates a welfare rorter, especially in Aboriginal affairs. Any waste of taxpayer funds in this area is highly disrespectful to genuine Indigenous,” the policy statement says.

    “It weakens the integrity of their racial group and takes money away from people in genuine need.”

  48. Percy Popinjay

    Labor had declared the project would “power homes” and turn the Great Southern coastal town of Albany into a globally recognised renewable energy hub.

    Hyperbowl.

    Meanwhile, the Oz is covering the important issues (again):

    Sydney public relations queen Roxy Jacenko and her husband Oliver Curtis have slapped a “Roxy Says Sell” sign on hundreds of designer fashion items, furnishings and scented candles as they fail to meet the “aesthetic” of their new Vaucluse mansion.

    Coats and designer handbags from the leading haute couture fashion houses of Gucci, Givenchy and Louis Vuitton as well as household furnishings and artworks, will be offered to bargain hunters by Lawsons Auctioneers via a live public and internet auction on the morning of March 22.

    Truly appalling people, possessing all the self-awareness of the Bourbons (or Julie Bishop and Waffles Turnbuckle).

  49. notafan

    Eyrie

    Smart!

    I suspect you would get 0.0000001% uptake

    Harken, obviously being a truly true believer, would enthusiastically agree.

  50. DrBeauGan

    Old School Conservative
    #2956307, posted on March 12, 2019 at 11:30 am
    Yes Mark I am deadly serious.
    The council’s rationale is that aboriginal culture must be respected and learned. It’s done every day because not all kiddies are there every day. This way all children get exposed even if they only attend one or two days.

    Aboriginal culture is so much better than ours. But fear not, ours is being replaced by aboriginal culture, one littlie at a time.

  51. dover_beach

    One of the figures the media’s gullible cretins found useful to promote in the Get Pell campaign has his escalating tales of torture and BDSM-style abuse forensically examined.

    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2019/03/memoirs-of-an-abused-altar-boy/

    Don’t let your jaw hit the desk as you read it.

    You really do have to wonder about the veracity of the testimonies given at the various Royal Commissions into sexual abuse. It looks to me as if we’ve allowed ourselves to believe the most extraordinary things and to ruin the reputations of institutions and those involved without a single care in the world.

  52. Dr Fred Lenin

    It is rumoured that taxpayer funded archaeologists are digging the remains of a large aboriginal city ,which proves they were here 250,000 years ago , they have found two clay bricks with aboriginal writing on them naming the city Ooorrra goorraopolis ,”it was a very advanced society “ adjunk professor Mohmmed O’Brien the red haired blue eyed director of the taxpayer funded dig said “ these peoples was my ancestors thats why Im so culchoored ,see? An they never had no racism then ,ay ? Like your ancestors was livin in caves then , like “ . The euredite professer says “ Im gunna write a book about it if I get another guvmint grant in me Swiss account,I got a good countant from the guvmint ,see?
    Now lets see the luvvie meeja pick this fake news up and run with it .

  53. 1735099

    Isn’t the idea of an Aboriginal flag cultural appropriation?

    The idea of our national flag with the flag of another country in the corner (the butcher’s apron) is a particularly offensive form of cultural appropriation to those of us descended from the Irish who were forced to emigrate during the genocide of an gorta mor.

  54. DrBeauGan

    I wonder what we’d get if we advertised for complainants to tell us of sexual abuse by politicians?

  55. Confused Old Misfit

    technically neutral

    Since no terms of reference are provided I suppose that can mean anything the speaker wishes it to mean.

  56. dover_beach

    The idea of our national flag with the flag of another country in the corner (the butcher’s apron) is a particularly offensive form of cultural appropriation

    No, it may be insensitive, but it isn’t a form of cultural appropriation, given that the use of flags was common to both the English and the Irish. But the use of flags by indigenous peoples certainly does appear to be a form of cultural appropriation; namely, they have appropriated from Europeans the use of flags as symbols of place and nationhood.

  57. Snoopy

    You really do have to wonder about the veracity of the testimonies given at the various Royal Commissions into sexual abuse.

    Any Royal Commission actually.

  58. notafan

    It is astounding that Mr Gordon Hill’s claim of extreme torture and abuse were not pursued vigorously by Vicpol who instead decided to advertise for any claims against Cardinal Pell.

    Similar to Louise Milligan’s cynical brushing off the claim by swimming pool boy of physical and sexual abuse by female teacher (s) at St A’s in preference of an alleged touching complaint against Cardinal Pell.

    Her oh so sincere concern for the suffering of this victim and her unquenchable thirst for justice to be served against those that wronged this young boy is , oh wait, clearly she did nothing.

    And don’t forget Vicpol also unquestioningly accepted and handed up to the DPP a claim of satanic abuse against Cardinal Pell, which was thrown out by Wallington only because, no doubt at great expense, Richter and his team did what the police were too lazy and malicious to do, and actually investigated the claim which was palpably false.

  59. Snoopy

    The idea of our national flag with the flag of another country in the corner (the butcher’s apron) is a particularly offensive form of cultural appropriation to those of us descended from the Irish

    You idiot. It is the British who should be offended in your case.

  60. dover_beach

    And don’t forget Vicpol also unquestioningly accepted and handed up to the DPP a claim of satanic abuse against Cardinal Pell, which was thrown out by Wallington only because, no doubt at great expense, Richter and his team did what the police were too lazy and malicious to do, and actually investigated the claim which was palpably false.

    Indeed, VicPol, at the very least the unit that conducted these investigations, ought to be investigated for perverting the course of justice.

  61. notafan

    And speaking of vicpol

    I contacted vicpol in relation to the theft of all my son’s tools

    Won’t take the report from me and while he could lodge a report over the phone it would be just a bother to take a list of everything that was stolen over the phone it would be better if he trekked down to the police station and waste an hour of his time travelling waiting etc so they could do nothing. as usual.

    Apparently Cash Converters sent a list of everything they buy to vicpol and we would have to cross our fingers that someone noticed a matching description and then bothered to follow it up.

    Yeah right

    My bet this wasn’t a junkie looking for fix money, and his tools will be being used on a site, right now, somewhere else, by someone who has no problem with using tools covered in someone else’s nickname and initials.

  62. Percy Popinjay

    “Australians are sick and tired of seeing people with blonde hair and blue eyes declaring themselves to be Indigenous, when clearly they have no recognisable Aboriginal background and are doing it solely to qualify for extra money,”

    LOL. Latham has a tendency to convey his messaging in very blunt terms.

    P.S. Dr Fred, that’s certainly some groundbreaking news you’ve described above. Perhaps you should pass on details of the dig to one Jonathon “moose knuckles” Green, via their beloved ALPBC.

  63. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The idea of our national flag with the flag of another country in the corner (the butcher’s apron) is a particularly offensive form of cultural appropriation to those of us descended from the Irish

    Others of us, also descended from the Irish, don’t have such a chip on the shoulder.

  64. Ivan Denisovich

    You really do have to wonder about the veracity of the testimonies given at the various Royal Commissions into sexual abuse. It looks to me as if we’ve allowed ourselves to believe the most extraordinary things and to ruin the reputations of institutions and those involved without a single care in the world.

    https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/all-things-catholic/new-symbol-false-sex-abuse-allegations

  65. DrBeauGan

    Would anyone be up for funding a large advertisement in a newspaper, possibly the Canberra Times, asking for complainants about sexual abuse by politicians to submit their stories to a box number, the responses to be forwarded to the federal police, with the prospect of compensation in the event of successful prosecution?

  66. dover_beach

    Similar to Louise Milligan’s cynical brushing off the claim by swimming pool boy of physical and sexual abuse by female teacher (s) at St A’s in preference of an alleged touching complaint against Cardinal Pell.

    Where does she do this, notafan?

  67. C.L.

    Alan Jones last year called for a judicial inquiry into the rigged Pell trial.
    I’m beginning to have serious doubts that a Victorian appellate court can or will do its obvious duty and acquit. If they do, it will basically blow up the Victorian justice system in its entirety, not to mention the careers of VicPol’s most senior officers and the bank accounts of many ABC and Fairfax luvvies. I can’t see them sacrificing their mates for Pell, not when they know how deliriously a dismissal will be welcomed. I expect a contrived encomium to the majesty of 12 humble jurymen.

  68. Lysander

    DrB.

    Stop making sense.

  69. Boambee John

    Numbers at 1337

    descended from the Irish who were forced to emigrate during the genocide of an gorta mor.

    While you are condemning the an gorta mor, could you give a passing thought to the Holodomor, which killed many more?

  70. Percy Popinjay

    possibly the Canberra Times

    One slight problem, Beaugy – no one reads it. Fauxfacts can’t even give it away.

  71. DrBeauGan

    We could add in journalists and pubic serpents to the politicians.

  72. notafan

    C L? posted an excerpt from an interview with Ms Milligan a few days ago

    She said something along the lines of

    Well you wouldn’t feel confident to confide in teacher x about what Cardinal Pell was doing then (after swimming pool boy claimed physical abuse by relief teacher s)

  73. dover_beach

    Alan Jones last year called for a judicial inquiry into the rigged Pell trial.
    I’m beginning to have serious doubts that a Victorian appellate court can or will do its obvious duty and acquit. If they do, it will basically blow up the Victorian justice system in its entirety, not to mention the careers of VicPol’s most senior officers and the bank accounts of many ABC and Fairfax luvvies. I can’t see them sacrificing their mates for Pell, not when they know how deliriously a dismissal will be welcomed. I expect a contrived encomium to the majesty of 12 humble jurymen.

    Then we need to make it known that such a thing will be unacceptable.

  74. DrBeauGan

    Percy Popinjay
    #2956386, posted on March 12, 2019 at 2:02 pm
    possibly the Canberra Times

    One slight problem, Beaugy – no one reads it. Fauxfacts can’t even give it away.

    Hmm. Good point, Percy. Maybe a thirty second TV commercial. Arky could make the video.

  75. Cassie of Sydney

    “LOL. Latham has a tendency to convey his messaging in very blunt terms”

    I reckon we’re in dire need of some blunt messaging and truth telling.

  76. mh

    Now that Nancy has declared there will be no impeachment of President Trump, any sightings of Monty?

  77. amortiser

    Notafan said:

    If only solar generation could be isolated from the mains and those boasters could have their green homes supplied exclusively by solar, then they could truly bask in their sunlit glory.

    The utilities can do this. They give people the option of taking green power. Although quite meaningless at the moment they could make it effective. At any time they know how much renewable power is generated at any time so it would be a simple matter of shutting them out when renewables are used up. We could then see how committed these zealots are when they have to suffer the consequences of their choices.

  78. C.L.

    Dover, in the original 7.30 Report interview with the swimming pool bogans, Dignan claimed he was also abused by a female “relief teacher” and Monument that he was sexually molested by another “vicious” male teacher.

    Milligan showed no interest whatsoever in these claims (except to explain the boys’ silence about reporting Pell), nor did police ever pursue either teacher. Evidently, police decided they don’t exist.

    Transcript.

  79. The idea of our national flag with the flag of another country in the corner (the butcher’s apron) is a particularly offensive form of cultural appropriation to those of us descended from the Irish

    Others of us, also descended from the Irish, don’t have such a chip on the shoulder.

    What name could be more Irish than…….. Whittaker?

  80. Snoopy

    I fear Monty has finally succumbed to Hansen’s Disease.

  81. From Brietbart – London police are changing their story about the removal of a Christian street preacher.

  82. DrBeauGan #2956381, posted on March 12, 2019 at 2:00 pm
    Would anyone be up for funding a large advertisement in a newspaper, possibly the Canberra Times, asking for complainants about sexual abuse by politicians to submit their stories to a box number, the responses to be forwarded to the federal police, with the prospect of compensation in the event of successful prosecution?

    Love your work Sir!

  83. bystander

    Swimming at Antarctica is a regular occurrance in Deception Bay which is the site of a volcano and it creates a large thermal spring. Bloody cold when you come out of the water.

  84. notafan

    M v R [1994] HCA 63; (1994) 181 CLR 487 is binding on court of appeal austlii citation

  85. dover_beach

    Cheers CL/ notafan. Funny how the teachers raised no concern at all to Milligan or the police.

    One way of keeping the pressure up re the appeal of Pell, beyond local pressure her, is to have the eyes of the world fall upon the appeal.

  86. bespoke

    Boambee John
    #2956342, posted on March 12, 2019 at 12:49 pm
    Numbers
    Have you defined “Vice Masking” yet? Hurry, the Catictionary awaits your eloquence.

    1735099 knows what virtue signaling is be one he founders and was just being his usual deceptive self.

    1735099
    #2956367, posted on March 12, 2019 at 1:37 pm
    Isn’t the idea of an Aboriginal flag cultural appropriation?
    The idea of our national flag with the flag of another country in the corner (the butcher’s apron) is a particularly offensive form of cultural appropriation to those of us descended from the Irish who were forced to emigrate during the genocide of an gorta mor.

    Get over it.

  87. Mother Lode

    Two weeks out from polling day, Mr Latham said One Nation, if elected, would work to abolish self-identification and replace it with a system requiring DNA evidence.

    Long overdue.

    Look, if people wish by themselves to tell themselves they are indigenous, to daub the walls with ochre and wear possum skins in front of the telly, fair enough. Let them go to corroboree karaoke, identify themselves as part of a tribe and let the rest of that tribe (many of them similarly qualified) identify them as kin as much as they wish.

    But as soon as they wish to access special treatments, special funds, avail themselves of special privileges such as workplace quotas – as soon as they start expecting society at large give them something not available to others then they should be required to show that there is a basis for so claiming.

    If this gets up, all the urgency about indigenous voices in parliament and quotas in academia and bureaucracy will shrink to a fraction of its current state, reduced to the purview of a handful or race justice dilettantes whose desire is not even to secure advantage for themselves, but to simply, and peevishly, mess things up for others.

  88. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The idea of our national flag with the flag of another country in the corner (the butcher’s apron) is a particularly offensive form of cultural appropriation to those of us descended from the Irish who were forced to emigrate during the genocide of an gorta mor.

    So Ireland inflicted on this country Paul Keating, the Labor Party and Numbers Bob?

  89. Helen

    CFMEU have a couple of stools and a table outside the Woolworths shopping center in Katherine. They were getting people on the roll, ready for voting. No doubt getting the names and addresses on the way past for future targeting.

    Civic duty./

  90. C.L.

    Funny how the teachers raised no concern at all to Milligan or the police.

    They’re on VicPol’s things-to-do list, along with pursuing the electro-shock therapy machine torturers and Andrew Bolt’s assailant.

  91. Muddy

    Dr. Beau,
    I admire your intent to do something practical.

  92. those of us descended from the Irish

    Deport the oyrish. What have they ever done for us?
    Apart from whiskey and guiness?

  93. C.L.

    If we’re going to DNA-test prospective Aborigines, can we do the same for white people with dreadlocks? No Caribbean genes = imprisonment.

  94. Mother Lode

    I reckon a real school teacher with a progressive bent should be appalled and affronted that the name of our language is taken from another country.

    Why would we call it ‘English’? Don’t we have our own traditions, our own sensibilities, our own humour, our own worldview that it describes?

    All will be fixed when we embrace that other great Australian creation: Socialism!

  95. A quick question to Cats everywhere:

    Two weeks out from polling day, Mr Latham said One Nation, if elected, would work to abolish self-identification and replace it with a system requiring DNA evidence.

    Would the results of said system be cross referenced with police and the public service so that old crimes and centrelink double dipping could be sorted out?
    I have in mind a particular person who was getting three centrelink payments in her maiden name, married name, and tribal name in a place out bush.
    I reported the issue to Centrelink, but on finding out the tribal name, refused to deal with the matter.
    How odd, thought Winston.
    It’s almost as if they were condoning someone from a particular background, rorting the system

  96. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Apart from whiskey

    Irish whiskey is fit only for the treatment of blowfly strike in sheep, and fungal infections in human beings. It was never meant for human consumption.

  97. Mother Lode

    I contacted vicpol in relation to the theft of all my son’s tools

    Isn’t there some procedure where you call a police number to report a crime but, since it is not actually the police, it doesn’t get counted in the statistics? That it only counts if you call a police station and the report is taken by an officer?

    Seems rather too brazen and, probably more to the point, too obvious since the year such a system was set up would show a decline in crime statistics by suspiciously high percentages.

    Still, they are nothing if not brazen.

    In fact, they are nothing much else.

  98. JMH

    The trouble with DNA testing of Aboriginal “claimants” is that there is no bank of authentic Aboriginal DNA. Melanesian DNA is the closest proxy, apparently. Therein lies the problem, although I fully agree with Latham’s proposal.

  99. Mother Lode

    It is astounding that Mr Gordon Hill’s claim of extreme torture and abuse were not pursued vigorously by Vicpol

    Nah, he blew it when he also declared that he had been interfered with by a Senior Labor Figure at a Young Labor Catamite camp.

    Suddenly the police were summoned to respond to reports of grass growing in a park.

  100. notafan

    The results will either suggest that the person tested is more likely to be Caucasian than aboriginal or more likely to have a greater Aboriginal influence than Caucasian. However, if the person is 1/8 aboriginal then the genes associated with that person may have been progressively diluted with the Caucasian genes such that after 3 generations the unique genes may no longer be present. Once a unique gene has been lost from one generation (race) to another it can no longer be regained, unless through further same race relations

    interesting

  101. notafan

    That means people less than 1/8th are most likely, to no longer have any Aboriginal genes, and would have to rely entirely on genealogy.

    Explains why we see so many blue eyed blonde aboriginals.

    Still the idea that Aboriginal funding should be directed at those in need (eg raised in community) rather than merely urbanites identifying seems pretty reasonable.

  102. What name could be more Irish than…….. Whittaker?

    Actually, that particular ancestor came from Tullamore.
    Then there were the Ryans and O’Sullivans.

  103. Mother Lode

    While you are condemning the an gorta mor, could you give a passing thought to the Holodomor

    Cool! We talking about cigars now?

    Are Cubans actually that much better? Or is it that they have attained an additional mystique for their illicitness in the US and that we have absorbed some of this?

  104. Mother Lode

    For all the Irish who suffered being sent to Australia, it seems very few were in a hurry to get back to Ireland.

  105. dover_beach

    I don’t know why people are addressing number’s diversion. He completely misunderstands the idea ‘cultural appropriation’ and therefore mistook CL’s comment.

  106. Mother Lode

    CFMEU have a couple of stools and a table outside the Woolworths shopping center in Katherine.

    And somewhere a pathologist is wondering why two empty jars were delivered to his office.

  107. Tom

    The Stalinist American left, which now controls the Democratic Party, its millennial army of communist sympathisers, led by Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, and its national leadership, has carefully orchestrated its campaign to neutralise the one media outlet standing in its way of regaining the American presidency in 2020.

    Its move against top rating Fox News, which has decimated its opponents in the ratings in the past two years with its unique “fair and balanced” formula, began a week ago with a 10,000-word hit piece (11,400 words-plus, to be accurate ) in New Yorker magazine, The Making of the Fox News White House, which prolifically uses the now-familiar tactic of anonymous sources, which may or may not have been invented by the author (since their anonymity means they can’t be verified).

    That gave Democratic Party chairman Tom Perez the pretext last week to announce that the DNC would ban Fox News as a moderator of presidential debates in the 2020 campaign.

    At the beginning of the work week in the US today, that provided the material for Fox’s Tucker Carlson Tonight, in which he zeroes in on the totalitarian Twitter mob and their allies in the media, who have virtually eliminated debate of key policy issues in Washington; only name-calling of “racists” standing in the way of their Animal Farm dystopia is now permitted. The whole episode is a zinger, but especially Carlson’s writing in the opener.

  108. mh

    For all the Irish who suffered being sent to Australia, it seems very few were in a hurry to get back to Ireland.

    I suggest a fundraiser to send Numbers back to Ireland.

  109. Mother Lode

    I suggest a fundraiser to send Numbers back to Ireland.

    I expect that when people saw the scalding tears course down his burning cheeks while peeling potatoes they assumed they were actually misshapen onions.

  110. Atoms for Peace

    So, numbers is an Irish cat ? Reminds me of the joke about an Irish cat.
    Scratched a hole, dropped a crap then buried itself instead. If only…

  111. notafan

    Some Irish came as convicts, long before the famines, some as free settlers, also before the famines, one of mine came under the Earl Grey scheme (4000 young unmarried women) during the famine, also voluntary.

    Some committed petty crimes to get transported.

    But most were assisted immigrants, and the famine had nothing to do withe those that came in the 1870s and 1880s.

    Between 1850 and 1890 most Irish arrivals to Victoria came as assisted immigrants, many escaping cultural repression in Ireland. In contrast to many other groups, they came in equal numbers of men and women. Many sought their fortunes on the goldfields.

    btw when the vast majority of Irish emigrated to Australia we had the Union Jack and nothing else, nright?

    The Australian flag wasn’t adopted til 1901.

    immigrant museum

  112. Baldrick

    I suggest a fundraiser to send Numbers back to Ireland.

    Fuck him. He can pay his own way for once.

  113. Mark A

    The Australian flag wasn’t adopted til 1901.
    immigrant museum

    Pesky facts again.
    People never learn.

  114. bespoke

    Cheers notafan for added context showing up 1735099’s low energies trolling.

  115. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I suggest a fundraiser to send Numbers back to Ireland.

    Haven’t the Irish got enough problems of their own?

  116. thefrollickingmole

    That piece on corporatism linked above is very good.
    Written before the GFC hit and identified 2 of the biggest causes of the meltdown.
    Banks could rely on the government for a bailout, government could rely on the banks for donations/career opportunities..

    Fannie Mae, the government agency which raises money for mortgage loans in the private capital markets. This agency has deliberately been spinning out loans to sub-par borrowers who are doomed to default on them. It has become a major prop holding up real-estate prices, and is thus a key culprit in the ongoing mortgage bubble. Conservatives accept it on the grounds that home ownership makes people more conservative. But this may not be true forever if private ownership of housing becomes a public entitlement. This is part of an ongoing phenomenon that corporatism helps to drive: the erosion of the determination of political preferences by the ownership of property.3

    Sallie Mae, the government agency which supervises student loans. The government has a system of directly-financed public universities, but is has also in effect annexed private universities. Cleverly, it uses a relatively small amount of public money to package the flow of a much larger amount of private capital to tuition. The principal problem with this is that it has become a subsidy machine for the spiraling cost of higher education. There is also the problem that any institution receiving federal funds becomes susceptible to regulations that otherwise wouldn’t be legal. Bribes-if-you-do are a much less disruptive means of manipulating behavior than sanctions-if-you-don’t, and corporatism hates disruption and loves business as usual.4 One way to interpret corporatism is as a systematic way for government to distribute bribes for submission to its authority.

  117. Bruce in WA

    The whiff – nay, pong – I’m getting both from the Gillard RC (victms “telling their stories”) and Pell’s accuser in the recent, rigged prosecution is recovered memories. In the medical records of the choirboy fabulist – records handily quarantined by the Victorian judiciary – would, I suggest, be consultations with a quack psychologist whose specialty is ‘recovered’ abuse narratives.

    Indeed! The sister of a woman who worked for me went to one such quack who helped her “recover” her memory of being sexually abused as a child by her father. Her siblings and parents were adamant the memory was false and that in fact it could not physically have happened the way she “remembered”. However, with the help of the quack she persisted, eventually reporting the matter to the police who, as expected, investigated and found absolutely no evidence whatsoever of any abuse.

    The incident broke the family apart, however, so much so that the father, unable to understand why his own daughter was claiming such a foul thing, committed suicide. His accuser subsequently spent a lot of time in mental institutions before withdrawing all contact from the family.

  118. Dr Faustus

    One speaker related how he has swum in arctic waters – some sort of dare – several times, and he reckons the temperature has gone from 3C up to 10C in the time he’s been doing that.

    The extent to which he is wrong depends where he went for his chilly dip – and when.

    NOAA tells us that the average Sea Surface Temperature Arctic has risen by 0.8C against the 1960-1990 average , however the average SST of the Barents Sea has fallen by 2.0C.

  119. notafan

    It is okay

    numbers is now known to hate the English, French, Americans and Filipinos.

    He’s exposed himself as a Cuban Potemkin village idiot.

    Is he enamored of the Vietnamese, or just the communist ones?

    I have no idea.

    I’m sure he’ll continue to add to the list of the humanity he despises.

  120. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Australia rejects US call to ‘take responsibility’ for home-grown IS fighters

    AAP
    59 minutes ago March 12, 2019
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    Australia has rejected calls from the United States to “take responsibility” for home-grown Islamic State fighters captured in the Middle East.

    The US has urged the Morrison government to bring Australian foreign fighters back to the country to be prosecuted or rehabilitated.

    But government frontbencher Michael Keenan has pushed back against Washington’s advice.

    “At the end of the day we work very closely with our security allies, in particular the United States,” he told Sky News on Tuesday.

    “But decisions about Australia’s security are always going to be taken by the Australian government.” Mr Keenan said it was the government’s clear position that it would be “very dangerous” to repatriate Australian-born Islamic militants.

    “And it’s not that straightforward, of course, the idea that you just bring people home and subject them to a criminal trial,” the former justice minister said.

    “It can be very difficult to get evidence from a war zone that you might need to get a successful prosecution, and our judgment is that in most cases, we are best off excluding these people from Australia.” Several Australian members of Islamic State are reportedly in the custody of Kurdish forces, who have decimated the terrorist group with help from the US military.

    From the Oz. Do the Yanks still have Guantanamo Bay?

  121. calli

    I’m a descendant of Irish convicts.

    #NotOffendedByTheUnionJack

  122. calli

    My bet this wasn’t a junkie looking for fix money, and his tools will be being used on a site, right now, somewhere else, by someone who has no problem with using tools covered in someone else’s nickname and initials.

    My father used to inscribe “Stolen From [his name]” on all his tools. In large caps and ungrindably deep.

    Every time a theiving *rsehole used them he would face his accuser and acknowledge his crime.

    Punishment The Methodist Way.

  123. Bruce of Newcastle

    Haven’t the Irish got enough problems of their own?

    No.

    The Most Anti-Christian Country on Earth (6 Mar)

    Rod Liddle, an estimable colleague who writes for The Spectator, not long ago voted Canada “the most batsh*t crazy country in the world.” He was wrong: Ireland takes that crown, as well as the one for unequalled liberal hypocrisy, the one for the most implacable indifference to the consequences of Cultural Marxist insanity, and, above all, for the title Most Anti-Christian Country on Planet Earth.

    He’s got a point, a definite point. But in my view it’ll be a while until Ireland achieves parity with the muslim nations in this regard.

    If Numbers sees that he can help Catholicism by opposing the SJWs who now have a lock on the emerald isle then I will be supporting him in it.

  124. Dr Faustus

    Reminds me of the joke about an Irish cat.
    Scratched a hole, dropped a crap then buried itself instead.

    I have suffered profound humiliation and actual hurt from this slur on my national origin and claim my $3,000 prize basic human right to a fuckoff payment to not being discriminated against.
    And probably compensation.

  125. mh

    Haven’t the Irish got enough problems of their own?

    Who cares. See ya, Bob. 👋

  126. Lysander

    Numbers,
    both my parents, their parents and their parents and their parents (back to about 1796 when the French came over) are Irish which makes me fairly Irish.

    When I was 18 I liked Gerry Adams, the IRA and hated England and Her Maj. I hated the Union Jack. I was just a dumbfuck young lefty who had anyone/anything with power like my protesting US Naval ships coming to Fremantle (little did I realise, as with Her Maj’s team, they actually help us more than hinder).

    Now I’m 40, I love the UK, her flag and her maj.

    I once was blind but now I see. Another song I don’t mind belting out is:

    Land of hope and glory, mother of the free
    How shall we extol thee, who are born of thee?
    Wider still and wider shall thy bounds be set
    God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet
    God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet
    Land of hope and glory, mother of the free
    How shall we extol thee, who are born of thee?
    Wider still and wider shall thy bounds be set
    God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet
    God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet

  127. Knuckle Dragger

    Nota,

    Your boy’s tools.

    In no way am I excusing the shit performance of the person you spoke to, who BTW deserves a proper quilting (the frequency of the crime notwithstanding, that’s what they’re bloody well paid for), this sort of thing is as common as muck in the trades.

    From experience, what has probably happened is that the thief will have visited eight or ten sites with a ute full of your boy’s gear and sold them off for half retail, much to the delight of the customers. And no, they won’t have any qualms about using gear with someone else’s initials on it.

    I fear the crook here may well be someone else on your boy’s site, who has noted him proudly working with his tools earned through his own sweat.

    The other thing is that this is almost certainly not a one-off by said crook – quite often he (yes, he) makes a bit of a side living from it as he moves from site to site. This is where the pity lies in the lack of enthusiasm in relation to taking of the original report. It ignores the possibility that this offence is part of an identifiable pattern, allowing a competent detective to pinch the baddie for not just one job, but many.

    A detective, years back did just this and locked up a gormless tradies who kept offending in this manner using the same method, and got him nine years in the bin for over a million’s worth of stolen tradies tools.

    Just saying. You have options – a lazy front counter copper’s greatest fear is the Ombudsman and a complaint of failure to investigate.

    If you say it’s all too hard (not saying you would) then that’s the same attitude as S/C Lazy, and the circle continues.

  128. Mater

    My bet this wasn’t a junkie looking for fix money, and his tools will be being used on a site, right now, somewhere else, by someone who has no problem with using tools covered in someone else’s nickname and initials.

    notafan,
    Take a trip to the Laverton Markets on the weekend. It’s infamous.
    On the suggestion of a tradie mate, I was able to retrieve about 75% of my tools in about 30 minutes. They were engraved though.

  129. mh

    Paddy was attempting to drive his car through the doors of the church one Sunday morning.

    The priest noticing, quickly ran to the vehicle. “What in God’s name are you doing, Paddy?”, he cried.

    “It’s ok Father”, said Paddy. “I’ve been told my car is in need of a service”.

  130. notafan

    KD thanks for the tip though this time they were stolen from home, another young man who lives near by also had tools taken.

    I was so ticked off when the other lazy cow did nothing about the theft of my cash and cards from the shop (yeah right nither Dan Murphys or Woolies cctv footage was working that day) and though I had an address for the brothers that did it yeah nah I don’t hold my breath.

    I think we;ll have to get him a lock box bolted to the tray, the whatever they call it cover of his ute has a flimsy lock.

    We all get the priorities

    Plenty of time for squeegee police etc

  131. struth

    Spuds Mc SNIFFY grizzling again?

    T’was in da grrate war of da first one dat all de Irish volunteered in rrecord numbers to fight, oh, yyes da did, under da Union Jack, for Australia.

    Da truth be known, day’d be utterly ashamed of their decendant known as Spuds Mc SNIFFY.

  132. Knuckle Dragger

    Nota,

    That’s a damn shame. Hypothetically if I had been one of the divisional CIB types, or a uniformed Sergeant and found out about the performance of those members there would have been hell to pay.

    Not that this helps, but in every organisation of 12,000 you will have a percentage of lazy, good for nothing dickheads who should by rights cop a daily flogging by their colleagues who actually do their job.

  133. areff

    When I rook Mum to the RSL for a roast some time ago, the lamb was all gone by the time we got to the counter to order.

    “If we weren’t Aborigines, there’d be lamb for us,” I told the server.

    Mum, bless her, just about had a heart attack, blustering that we weren’t Aborigines, later insisting the family’s only Indigenous link was her grandmother being hit with a nulla nulla as a child on the spot where St Francis now stands.

    The server avowed that there was no prejudice at the RSL — which set Mum to further fulmination.

    If Latham gets his way, Michael Mansell and I will have to produce our certificates before complaining about there being no more dessert for the likes of us.

    No justice, no piece of pav.

  134. notafan

    T’was in da grrate war of da first one dat all de Irish volunteered in rrecord numbers to fight, oh, yyes da did, under da Union Jack, for Australia.

    They also fought for the British Army in WWII, in great numbers

  135. notafan

    one i mean, not sure about two

  136. notafan

    I know KD
    had a detective from somewhere else drop in and ask me a few questions about a case he was investigating, on a subject on which i have a little expertise and he said much the same thing, except he used ruder words than you

  137. They also fought for the British Army in WWII, in great numbers

    The oyrish will always volunteer for a foyt.

  138. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The oyrish will always volunteer for a foyt.

    Mostly with each other.

  139. Dr Faustus

    Paddy is struggling to find a parking space.

    “Lord,” he prayed. “If you open up a park for me, I swear I’ll give up the Guinness and go to mass every Sunday.”

    The clouds part and a single sunbeam shines on an empty parking spot. Without missing a beat, Paddy says: “Never mind, I found one!”

  140. Boambee John

    Nota at 1525

    I’m sure he’ll continue to add to the list of the humanity he despises.

    I think you can add Catholics who are not devotees of so-called “Liberation Theology”.

  141. Neil

    The idea of our national flag with the flag of another country in the corner (the butcher’s apron) is a particularly offensive form of cultural appropriation to those of us descended from the Irish who were forced to emigrate during the genocide of an gorta mor.

    If the Irish hate the English so much why don’t they migrate to a country that does not speak English? Millions migrated to North America. Why didn’t they go to South Ameria

  142. notafan

    “It’s ok Father”, said Paddy. “I’ve been told my car is in need of a service”.

    the second joke was better

    Catholics don’t use the word ‘service’ so it doesn’t really work, well from a Catholic perspective anyhow

  143. struth

    yes da did in WW2 as well.

    And they didn’t have to.

    What could possibly be going on there?

    Sort of not following the victim narrative there, are they?

    Pitiful McSNIFFY , the new rakeman?

    I mean I think Monty has died………………………….it was that just one after dinner wafer wot did it.

    The problem is, if he is dead, the bastard will still be voting.

  144. mh

    Notafan,

    Picky picky picky!

    ☘️

  145. lotocoti

    it’ll be a while until Ireland achieves parity

    The shinners are prepared to give it a red hot go.
    (Which might cause some confusion for that poor wee lass who accidentally left the Oirish Army and joined ISIS.)

  146. struth

    A Conservative is a Libertarian that understands what is required to achieve a libertarian Utopia.
    Understands freedom isn’t free.
    A libertarian has no understanding whatsoever.

    Adult and child.

  147. notafan

    Not logical really Neil

    Lots of Scots emigrated to the US and Canada too after the clearances and I do believe there was a war between the US the UK before the famines so not much love there for the UK.

    Besides which many Irish had their fares paid by landowners who wanted to be rid of them, peasant share farmers escaping famine usually had no money of their own.

    Not to mention tens of thousands went to Liverpool England as ship ballast, it was cheaper to give them free passage than load the ships with rocks for the return trip.

    The Great Hunger by cecil woodham-smith covers this in some detail.

  148. mh

    Barman says to Paddy “Your glass is empty, fancy another one?”

    Looking puzzled Paddy says “Why would i be needed two empty feckin glasses?”

  149. Boambee John

    Nota at 1604

    They also fought for the British Army in WWII, in great numbers

    Almost certainly an apocryphal story. Two Irishmen serving in a British infantry unit at Dunkirk. One says to the other, “Say what you like about de Valera, at least he kept us outa dis war”.

  150. struth

    The oyrish will always volunteer for a foyt.

    Mostly with each other.

    One just requires alcohol.

  151. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Almost certainly an apocryphal story. Two Irishmen serving in a British infantry unit at Dunkirk. One says to the other, “Say what you like about de Valera, at least he kept us outa dis war”.

    I’ve heard the same story, set in a Lancaster Bomber, over Berlin… Now, would that be the same de Valera who sent the German Embassy, in Dublin, a note of condolences, on the death of one Adolf Hister?

  152. Neil

    Not logical really Neil

    Why? Irish could have migrated to South America. Why go to an English speaking country if you hate the English?

  153. One just requires alcohol.

    Never make the mistake of hitting an oyrishman in the head.
    You just make them angry.

  154. struth

    I have been poked and prodded today.
    Pissed in a cup, blood pressure, vision, hearing etc done so I am licenced to put the fear of god into my passengers for another three years.

    Boss always trying to get me to go to Anhem Land, knows I only go if he really is desperate’

    Water coming down for Lake Eyre to fill, needs a few extra tours up from Adelaide.
    Knows I’ll do it in a heart beat.
    I ring him back.

    Yeah, he said, looks like the water’s coming down slower than we thought, but I’m really stuck for the first one out in Arnhem land…………………………………………..

    I can’t do the insane leftism anymore, and it’s bad up there.
    If he won’t take no for an answer, I might have some fun with a few taxpayer funded arseholes up there.

    It’s a big boring area up there, dirt mud crocs buffalo and heat.
    Because of the raw socialism it feels like a prison.

    Give me a flooding Lake Eyre anyday.

  155. notafan

    Why? Irish could have migrated to South America. Why go to an English speaking country if you hate the English?

    What has the mere language got to do with it?

    That isn’t the sum total of what it is to be English

    And who said the Irish universally hated the English, other than numbers?

    As I said the US had fought a war to be rid of England, why wouldn’t the Irish go to a country that had freed itself from UK rule, and promised freedom and opportunity?

    Besides which you didn’t bother addressing the fact that starving people fleeing a famine that killed around a million of their country men tended not to have a lot of choices.

    They may have blamed the British government for their plight, I don’t know, I know some were very bitter against their landlords that sent them to die of disease on overcrowded ships.

    My family hasn’t nursed a hatred of the English for six generations, too many of them married them!

  156. Mark A

    mh
    #2956473, posted on March 12, 2019 at 4:18 pm

    Picky picky picky!

    ☘️
    I have an irish themed, posted on FB, but not sure it’s for the cat with ladies about?
    Maybe for late night?

  157. struth

    JOysus Bloody Chroyst, it’s not rocket science.
    We were allies with the Japs in ww1.

    The Irish understand where their loyalties should lie depending on the situation.

    It’s sort of me against my brothers, my brothers against my family etc.

    We all hate the government we have right now, but would you fight for your country still?

  158. Des Deskperson

    “possibly the Canberra Times

    One slight problem, Beaugy – no one reads it. Fauxfacts can’t even give it away.”

    Audited weekday circulation in December 2018 was 13,808. How it remains financially worthwhile to produce beats me. The Classified Ads section is full of ads for – the ads Classified Ads section. Only the obituaries seem to be doing well.

    Some of the younger journos have done creditable work in highlighting the incompetence, waste, cronyism and virtue-signalling of the Barr Labor government, but the senior staff are rusted on geezer left. This morning’s editorial described Milo Y as a ‘rabble-rouser’.

  159. struth:

    We all hate the government we have right now, but would you fight for your country still?

    Damn good question, struth.
    But yes, I would.
    I’d also expect to get fuck all thanks from anyone except my mates after it was over.

  160. Mater

    Sean and Seamus were watching a Western movie on the TV at the local. As the hotly pursued stage coach was nearing the edge of a deep ravine at full speed, Sean looked at Seamus and said, “I’ll bet you a Guiness that they go straight over the edge”
    Sure that the hero had things in hand, Seamus enthusiastically agreed to the wager.
    Sure enough, over the cliff the stagecoach went.
    As an Irishman of his word, Seamus immediately bought Sean the drink.
    Having devoured the winnings with much eagerness, Sean had an unbearable attack of Catholic guilt. Turning sheepishly to Seamus, he said, “I’ve must confess to you, I’d seen that movie before”.
    “Me too”, replied Seamus “I thought he would’ve learnt”.

  161. DrBeauGan

    struth:

    We all hate the government we have right now, but would you fight for your country still?

    Damn good question, struth.
    But yes, I would.
    I’d also expect to get fuck all thanks from anyone except my mates after it was over.

    It would depend on who was the enemy. If it was Trump’s USA, I don’t think I’d fight for progressivism.

  162. vlad

    We all hate the government we have right now, but would you fight for your country still?

    Yes.

    Enoch Powell said he would fight for England even if it had a communist government.

  163. DrBeauGan

    We all hate the government we have right now, but would you fight for your country still?

    Yes.

    Enoch Powell said he would fight for England even if it had a communist government.

    I’d know I was on the wrong side if I had numbers in my trench.

  164. Fat Tony

    Winston Smith
    #2956497, posted on March 12, 2019 at 4:52 pm
    struth:

    We all hate the government we have right now, but would you fight for your country still?

    Damn good question, struth.
    But yes, I would.

    I’d also expect to get fuck all thanks from anyone except my mates after it was over.

    Winston / Struth – problem is, we wouldn’t be fighting for our country – just some treasonous politician who has sold out the country and betrayed us.

  165. Dr Faustus

    Sportsbet has a Shorten Government at $1.18, with Morrison out at $4.25.

    On the basis of the odds in individual seats, Labor is looking like 86 to 90+ MHR’s – so likely a comfortable majority for Tit’s handlers to cry ‘Mandate’ and let slip the dogs of Class War.

    Interesting seats (with a bit of money on them):

    Warringah: Abbott: $1.75; Steggall: $2.00 – Climate Refugee.
    Wentworth: Liberal: $1.75; Phelps $2.40 – Buyers’ Regret.
    Flinders: ALP: $1.60; Lib $2.40; Julia Banks $9.00 – Go Grrrlll.

    Also, the odds say Winter is Coming for most of Morrison’s front bench.
    And Australia.

  166. Fat Tony

    Dr Faustus
    #2956507, posted on March 12, 2019 at 5:21 pm
    Also, the odds say Winter is Coming for most of Morrison’s front bench.
    And Australia.

    The Year* Without Summer
    (* metaphorically cos it will be a far sight longer than a year)

  167. DrBeauGan

    Winston / Struth – problem is, we wouldn’t be fighting for our country – just some treasonous politician who has sold out the country and betrayed us.

    Quite so. You’d be fighting for the political class to hang onto their jobs.

    Anyway, wars aren’t fought that way any more. If you want to invade a Western country, you send in a wave of women and children. Western soldiers can be relied on to not shoot them.

  168. Mater

    I’d know I was on the wrong side if I had numbers in my trench.

    An atheist in a foxhole? 😉

  169. Fat Tony

    DrBeauGan
    #2956510, posted on March 12, 2019 at 5:24 pm

    Anyway, wars aren’t fought that way any more. If you want to invade a Western country, you send in a wave of women and children. Western soldiers can be relied on to not shoot them.

    Dunno about that – Western Europe is being quite successfully invaded by millions of military age males.
    All you need is those treasonous politicians….

  170. DrBeauGan

    The England Enoch Powell would have fought for is long gone. As is the Australia I’d have fought for. What’s left is arky.

  171. Fisky

    Oh dear. The Morriscum government has created another THREE low skill migration categories in the past three months. This comes on top of their plans to bring in 15,000 elderly Chinese parent/babysitters who will each cost the taxpayer nearly half a million bucks. Anything to keep the property ponzi economy going.

    Vote this stupid government out now!

    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/03/death-throes-coalition-throws-open-visa-rort-floodgates/

  172. DrBeauGan

    An atheist in a foxhole?

    I hope I’d have the moral courage to not pray when the shells started bursting, but I can’t promise anything.

  173. Leigh Lowe

    Des Deskperson

    #2956496, posted on March 12, 2019 at 4:52 pm

    “possibly the Canberra Times

    One slight problem, Beaugy – no one reads it. Fauxfacts can’t even give it away.”

    Audited weekday circulation in December 2018 was 13,808.

    How many of those were bought by schools, libraries, government departments versus private subscriptions?

    How it remains financially worthwhile to produce beats me. The Classified Ads section is full of ads for – the ads Classified Ads section. Only the obituaries seem to be doing well.

    Today’s Age had eight (8) death notices from a city of approx 3 million.
    Roger Corbett’s (The Great Grocer) eternal rivers of classified gold have slowed to a trickle.

  174. cohenite

    I see numbers identifies as a Leprechaun: for his edification; irish lasses intellectualising:

  175. DrBeauGan

    I’ve been known to pray to the Oh God of hangovers. It’s never done much good.

  176. max

    In my suburb the number of Chinese is extraordinary. Put them together with the Indians on the other side of town. How many would fight for this country ? No need to answer.

  177. Bruce of Newcastle

    Audited weekday circulation in December 2018 was 13,808. How it remains financially worthwhile to produce beats me.

    The CanT hasn’t moved across the ditch yet?
    Our local Fairfax propaganda rag The Newcastle Herald has been produced by kiwis for 7 years now.
    It’s unreadable.

  178. egg_

    technically neutral

    We now have Qwerty Energy?
    Strange times, indeed.

  179. DrBeauGan

    Dunno about that – Western Europe is being quite successfully invaded by millions of military age males.
    All you need is those treasonous politicians….

    But,but, but Tony, they’re refugees!

  180. max

    Latham shows Cory how to get headlines.

  181. jupes

    Don’t let your jaw hit the desk as you read it.

    Actually it is exactly what I would expect.

    Just like the RC into the “stolen generation”, there is no incredulity (or credibility) among the corrupt lawyers getting over-compensated to produce a result that the government is paying them to provide.

    Scum.

  182. thefrollickingmole

    Vote this stupid government out now!

    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/03/death-throes-coalition-throws-open-visa-rort-floodgates/

    Im sure no unscrupulous people would employ furriners just so they could legally save $25,000 by paying the mandated minimum wage as opposed to the Australian rates..

    There is now a gap of more than A$26 000 between the salary floor for temporary skilled migrant workers and annual average salaries for Australian workers. This means that the TSS visa can increasingly be used to employ temporary migrant workers in occupations that attract a far lower salary than that earned by the average Australian worker. This begs the question — is the erosion of TSMIT allowing the TSS visa to morph into a general labour supply visa rather than a visa restricted to filling labour market gaps in skilled, high-wage occupations?..

    But ive been assured migrants dont place any downward pressure on wages, the lefties and crony mobs wouldnt lie would they?

  183. jupes

    At the beginning of the work week in the US today, that provided the material for Fox’s Tucker Carlson Tonight, in which he zeroes in on the totalitarian Twitter mob and their allies in the media, who have virtually eliminated debate of key policy issues in Washington; only name-calling of “racists” standing in the way of their Animal Farm dystopia is now permitted. The whole episode is a zinger, but especially Carlson’s writing in the opener.

    Superb comment from Carlson. (Tom’s link at 3:01 above).

  184. W Hogg

    Can someone bring me up to speed? Did m0ron retire to the ladies toilet with a necktie and do the right thing after 2 years of tic-toc brought an admission that Mueller found nothing on Russia?

  185. cohenite

    Go Barnaby:

    Deputy Nationals leader Bridget McKenzie slammed Mr Joyce, declaring Australians were frustrated the former deputy prime minister was “not focused on their needs and issues”.

    The Victorian senator and Sports Minister said Mr Joyce’s call for a taxpayer-subsidised coal-fired power station in central Queensland was “very different to what the party room is saying”.

    Coal war: Barnaby Joyce sparks showdown with Liberal Party

    She accused Mr Joyce of conflating the issues of leadership with energy policy and gave her full backing to party leader Michael McCormack.

    “I think Australia is frustrated that there is a politician out there who is not focused on their needs and issues,” Senator McKenzie said.

    “It is really clear when you are out on the ground talking to communities, as I have been … power prices is one of the number one issues. Cost of living is really biting out there and we need to make sure our policies address that and not be talking about ourselves.

    “Michael McCormack is our leader. We all back him to the hilt. He will be leading us to the federal election. He has delivered in spades as leader of the National Party.”

    Senator McKenzie said the government should take a “technology neutral approach” to energy and coal should only receive backing if it stacks up financially.

    “What Barnaby Joyce is saying publicly is very different to what the party room is saying. What we are agreed on is that we do need to back a neutral approach, a technology neutral approach to getting reliable, baseload power into our energy system.

    “Technology neutral power generation means coal, gas, wind, water, solar.

    “We are on about reliable power generation and increasing competition in the grid. That includes coal where it stacks up financially to do so.”

    These faux conservatives are fucking idiots.

  186. vlad

    The England Enoch Powell would have fought for is long gone.

    So is Enoch. If it’s gone, that’s because too few fought for it.

  187. Speedbox

    thefrollickingmole
    #2956530, posted on March 12, 2019 at 6:06 pm

    I followed the link and the graph says that almost 28,000 people arrived BY PLANE in 2017/8 and sought asylum? Is that true?

  188. Snoopy

    This comes on top of their plans to bring in 15,000 elderly Chinese parent/babysitters who will each cost the taxpayer nearly half a million bucks.

    #FakeMaths

  189. DrBeauGan

    vlad
    #2956534, posted on March 12, 2019 at 6:12 pm
    The England Enoch Powell would have fought for is long gone.

    So is Enoch. If it’s gone, that’s because too few fought for it.

    Just as too few have fought for Australia. But fighting with guns against foreigners is relatively straightforward. Fighting with ideas against traitors is harder, and not many are equipped for it.

  190. jupes

    “We are on about reliable power generation and increasing competition in the grid. That includes coal where it stacks up financially to do so.”

    Which is coal every single time.

    Barnaby is right of course, but where was he when was in cabinet? Pushing Snowy 2.Idiot.

  191. Vote this stupid government out now!
    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/03/death-throes-coalition-throws-open-visa-rort-floodgates/

    Im sure no unscrupulous people would employ furriners just so they could legally save $25,000 by paying the mandated minimum wage as opposed to the Australian rates..

    There is now a gap of more than A$26 000 between the salary floor for temporary skilled migrant workers and annual average salaries for Australian workers. This means that the TSS visa can increasingly be used to employ temporary migrant workers in occupations that attract a far lower salary than that earned by the average Australian worker. This begs the question — is the erosion of TSMIT allowing the TSS visa to morph into a general labour supply visa rather than a visa restricted to filling labour market gaps in skilled, high-wage occupations?..

    But ive been assured migrants dont place any downward pressure on wages, the lefties and crony mobs wouldnt lie would they?

    There are some serious problems with the methodology in that linked article.

  192. jupes

    Just as too few have fought for Australia.

    Watched the clip on Outsiders on Sunday showing Muslims in the UK protesting about the Pommy version of ‘Safe Schools”. Apparently the school had already caved but they had their protest anyway, just so they could have a verbal crack at homos.

    Rita Panahi was not impressed but I was. My father’s generation of Australians would have done something similar I reckon.

  193. jupes

    I followed the link and the graph says that almost 28,000 people arrived BY PLANE in 2017/8 and sought asylum? Is that true?

    Yes. The Stupid Fucking Liberals are enacting Greens policy to bring in more Muslims in a single year than had ever come in by Labor’s opening of the borders.

  194. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The whiff – nay, pong – I’m getting both from the Gillard RC (victms “telling their stories”) and Pell’s accuser in the recent, rigged prosecution is recovered memories. In the medical records of the choirboy fabulist – records handily quarantined by the Victorian judiciary – would, I suggest, be consultations with a quack psychologist whose specialty is ‘recovered’ abuse narratives.

    It certainly sounds like it, CL. A stitch up from beginning to end, as Hairy calls it, and so do I.

    Calli – re your comment about ‘caution’ because Mark Latham is ‘a cunningly disguised urban bugman’.
    Depends what you mean by that. Perhaps you simply allude to Latham’s Labor Party roots and preferences re economics (I’m not completely sure what he stands for there) and his predisposition to look out for the interests of the ‘working class’ first and foremost. If so, then in a broad church of opposition to the current social and political lunacies of the two major parties, I have no objection to siding with Latham. He is very straight and true on curbing immigration to Sydney’s west, kids and gender dysmorphia, feminist nonsense, base load coal power and withdrawal from the Paris Agreement, although I did sense he may be hedging his bets a bit on the climate hoax (he’s first and foremost a politician). I can see how the people of Western and Southern Sydney go wild for him. He does speak their language, and most politicians don’t. He’ll romp it in in NSW.

  195. thefrollickingmole

    Plane arrivals are much, much easier to screen and return.

    That said the departments website is awesomely bad for trying to locate specific information.

    Still as long as we have skilled migration like this we will be fine ….right?

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  196. I followed the link and the graph says that almost 28,000 people arrived BY PLANE in 2017/8 and sought asylum? Is that true?

    Lodging an asylum application is a trick used immigration lawyers.
    They use it even for poms who overstay their tourist visa.
    That statistic should be viewed in conjunction with:
    Of those 28,000 who apply for asylum, how many later withdraw their application & fly home of their own accord?

  197. DrBeauGan

    My father’s generation of Australians would have done something similar I reckon.

    Since then, we’ve been turned into effeminate losers. I’m damned if I’d fight for them.

  198. vlad

    Malignagain is salivating daily on the twitter at the prospect of the Pell material from the RC being released when the appeal process (as she sees it) is finally exhausted.

    A real journalist wouldn’t care what the verdict was or how the appeal went; he/she would simply report what happened – after it happened.

    Rumour Mill is yet another activist. Strictly entre nous, of course, I think she’s riding for a fall.

  199. egg_

    She accused Mr Joyce of conflating the issues of leadership with energy policy and gave her full backing to party leader Michael McCormack.

    Is that Vagspeak* for “Bananaby just gave McCormack an atomic wedgie”?

    *Catictionary nominee?

  200. Baldrick

    I followed the link and the graph says that almost 28,000 people arrived BY PLANE in 2017/8 and sought asylum? Is that true?

    At least, if they come in by plane, they have travel documents and their claims can be easily verified, unlike the boat arriving country-shoppers.

  201. I followed the link and the graph says that almost 28,000 people arrived BY PLANE in 2017/8 and sought asylum? Is that true?

    It should be noted that many of these claims are not intended to be serious claims for asylum, they are a stalling tactic used by lawyers on behalf of a client who is in hot water for some other reason.

  202. bespoke

    HWGIC
    @sobossme

    Replying to @benshapiro and 2 others

    I worked for Kara for a spell several years ago. She’s a nice person, but an extreme leftist. She espoused her leftist views loudly and often. It’s no surprise her son is reaching out for different viewpoints. I’m sure his home life is a 24/7 indoctrination camp.

    No She’s not a nice person, she is a lazy parent and a totalitarian.

  203. DrBeauGan

    A real journalist wouldn’t care what the verdict was or how the appeal went; he/she would simply report what happened – after it happened.

    Rumour Mill is yet another activist. Strictly entre nous, of course, I think she’s riding for a fall.

    I doubt it. We’re living in a post-truth world, Vlad. A journalist doesn’t report events these days, she uses them to advance the cause and express her piety.

  204. Since then, we’ve been turned into effeminate losers. I’m damned if I’d fight for them.

    +1

  205. Neil

    I followed the link and the graph says that almost 28,000 people arrived BY PLANE in 2017/8 and sought asylum? Is that true?

    How many of those are students? There are 600,000 foreign students legally here on student visas. Education for foreign students is a big money spinner for Australia. Some of those students apply for asylum after they arrive because they like it here. It is a rort. The Chinese are the biggest applicants.

  206. egg_

    Latho’s a high flyer in Pauline’s plane, whilst SloMo is in a nosedive?

  207. https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/03/death-throes-coalition-throws-open-visa-rort-floodgates/

    That article is based on more misinformation & original sources that are hard-left SJW documents, than a Lodge meeting of the Teachers Unions.

  208. Muddy

    a high flyer in Pauline’s plane

    Is that a yoofamism, Egg?

  209. Baldrick

    Since then, we’ve been turned into effeminate losers. I’m damned if I’d fight for them.

    You and me both Dr BG. I’d be fucked if I’d fight for teaching kids to penis tuck, breast bind and take the day off protesting in the name of Goebbels Warming.

  210. jupes

    At least, if they come in by plane, they have travel documents and their claims can be easily verified, unlike the boat arriving country-shoppers.

    It doesn’t matter if their documents are ‘verified’ if the asylum seeker is Muslim.

  211. egg_

    Is that a yoofamism, Egg?

    Gave her an inch and she took a mile?

  212. MatrixTransform

    particularly offensive form of cultural appropriation to those of us descended from the Irish who were forced to emigrate

    now that’s better.
    that’s how to make you self a real minority
    Numberz’s lonely club of offended Irish.
    even the girls would call you a gobshite

  213. calli

    Lizzie, Latham can say what pleases his audience. He’s found a niche.

    My suspicion comes from my eyes and ears, watching his response to a grilling by the wymyns on Seven re the Pell character reference. Kennett said, quite rightly, that Abbott and Howard were free to give the reference to whoever they pleased.

    Latham damned them. And I watched the Bugman shutters come down on his mug, doing “concerned face”.

    He does not love liberty. He is a fraud.

  214. Tel

    In my suburb the number of Chinese is extraordinary. Put them together with the Indians on the other side of town. How many would fight for this country ? No need to answer.

    Chinese will fight for this country only if they cannot take it by easier means.

    Hindus will happily fight Muslims, largely out of national pride more than any genuine intention to win.

    Have you met my pet cat? She’s a killing machine with a brain the size of a walnut … never picked a fair fight in her life.

  215. calli

    To me, these sorts of crises are tests of character.

    He failed while Kennett, for all his faults, passed with flying colours. He stuck to his guns about freedom of association.

    He isn’t looking for the main chance come an election however.

  216. Muddy

    Fighting with ideas against traitors is harder, and not many are equipped for it.

    The Quiet Ones.

  217. jupes

    Latham damned them. And I watched the Bugman shutters come down on his mug, doing “concerned face”.

    Disappointing to say the least.

  218. Fat Tony

    Neil
    #2956559, posted on March 12, 2019 at 6:53 pm
    It is a rort. The Chinese are the biggest applicants.

    Neil – just think, if you had a gun, a pit bull and a nuclear-armed Virginia class sub, you could send them all back home.

  219. Muddy

    Fighting with ideas against traitors is harder, and not many are equipped for it.

    Daft name, vague idea, and hugely resource-challenged, but it’s an embryo.

    You’re right though … very few takers.

  220. MatrixTransform

    Sign at the Dublin Zoo… Man wanted for breeding with Gorilla. $10000.

    So Paddy applies and is talking to the zookeeper and says “I’ll do it on 3 conditions”

    First he says, the children must be raised in the church
    Second, I’m not kissing that fecking gorilla.
    And third, It could take me a week to come up with the 10k

  221. DrBeauGan

    My suspicion comes from my eyes and ears, watching his response to a grilling by the wymyns on Seven re the Pell character reference. Kennett said, quite rightly, that Abbott and Howard were free to give the reference to whoever they pleased.

    Latham damned them. And I watched the Bugman shutters come down on his mug, doing “concerned face”.

    He does not love liberty. He is a fraud.

    Thanks Calli. You’re right, it’s a character test. I’ll accept your judgement that Latham failed. Pity, but worth knowing. In the end, it seems he’s just another politician.

  222. bespoke

    calli
    I had the same suspicions about Latham since he though Leyonhjelm under the bus over Shy.

  223. stackja

    Missing bushwalkers found after going missing at Mt Buffalo on Friday
    Aneeka Simonis, Herald Sun
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    The hikers who spent five days lost on Mount Buffalo described the frosty nights as “serenity” and say they were never too far from help.

    Trevor Salvado, 60, and Cindy Bohan, 58, survived on snacks after becoming lost about two hours into a hike on Friday.

    The pair today emerged from hospital flanked by family with only scratches to their legs.

    Mr Salvado said they spent the four nights in bush near where they were found.

    Today they ran out of food and decided it was time to venture out for help.

    “We could hear the choppers and speed boats on Lake Buffalo,” he said.

    “We could hear campers, cows, a dog and see some lights.

    “We were always confident we would be found and that we were not far away from help but we had a 250ft drop in front so we took four days to see if we could get out.”

    While friends and family feared for their safety, Mr Salvado described nights beneath the stars on the mountain as “serenity.”

    “It was lovely,” he said.

    And the cost of the search? Lovely?

  224. calli

    It is disappointing, jules.

    I knew he was a weak, blustering character, but aren’t they all? I thought he might have grown up. Though the shopping around for a party should have set off the alarm bells.

    He folded to the scolding wymynses. Pathetic.

  225. thefrollickingmole

    Ok on the visa issue.

    Providing a “spouse” for a sham marriage and Australian visa is worth around $100,000 to a Viet.

    Thats the “market value” of the Australian gravy train as seen by one set of people.
    Id guess its similar pricing for most potential migrant groups.

    The average monthly salary of a worker in Vietnam is about $148 per month; those in high paying jobs bring home around $500 per month.

    So 200 months of work for a well paid person, 675 months for an average wage earner.

    People living here have no idea how “valuable” the Aussie visa is.
    Most Viets dont pay up front, but rather indenture themselves to a market gardener or similar and work off the debt over about 5 years.

  226. egg_

    I had the same suspicions about Latham since he though Leyonhjelm under the bus over Shy.

    P1ssweak.

  227. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mention up thread of Enoch Powell.

    Powell taught Gough Whitlam economics at Sydney University in 1938, and gave his opinion that Gough had a very second rate mind.

  228. calli

    There are no votes in being loyal to George Pell. There are no votes in even expressing doubt about the conviction. There are no votes in getting the Sunrise wymyn and Sunrise audience offside.

    There are plenty of votes in saying all the things you imagine your niche want you to say.

    Bucketgut’s Politics 101.

  229. C.L.

    Technology neutral power generation …

    Can somebody WTF that is?
    Ban women from Canberra now. All of them.

  230. C.L.

    Technology neutral power generation …

    Can somebody tell me WTF that is?
    Ban women from Canberra now. All of them.

  231. dover_beach

    Someone needs to very meticulously but mercilessly take the truth-bat to Milligan, especially her book. She needs to be exposed as the malicious charlatan and dissembler that she is. In fact, all the principals involved from VicPol, the DPP, through to the sexual abuse support groups need to be pick through with a fine-tooth comb.

  232. Confused Old Misfit

    Technology neutral power generation …

    I’ve decided it’s a “Buzz” phrase, C.L.
    Something to be spouted to make some one appear “in the know”.
    I cannot think how technology neutral power generation would even be possible.

  233. Muddy

    dover_beach
    #2956589, posted on March 12, 2019 at 7:26 pm

    This could only be done by an independent, anonymous individual or organisation that, if the latter, has solid internal security, and if either, a multi-layered plan for responding to any eventualities.

  234. Mark A

    MatrixTransform
    #2956575, posted on March 12, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    Sign at the Dublin Zoo… Man wanted for breeding with Gorilla. $10000.

    So Paddy applies and is talking to the zookeeper and says “I’ll do it on 3 conditions”

    That’s the one I had in mind but retrained myself from posting.

  235. vlad

    Tomorrow is D-Day, of course. They’ll be going nuts outside the court. At least His Eminence will get out of the MAP for it.

    Predictions: if he gets ten years or more, the professional nutters will be screaming (with joy) that he’ll die inside. (To which I’d say: don’t bet the farm on that even then.)

    If he gets less than ten, self-same nutters will be screaming it’s not enough but at least he’ll die inside. (Idem.)

    My own hope is he gets a suspended sentence, itself to be overturned on appeal. As he leaves court, an earthquake occurs, a bow appears in the heavens and rainbow lorikeets alight on his arms – outstretched to bless and forgive his persecutors, Rumour Mill included – while a nimbus encircles his head.

    I only wish I could be there to present him with two bunches of roses: red and white. I’ll be elsewhere, working.

    Laborare est orare.

    Here endeth the lesson.

  236. vlad

    Someone needs to very meticulously but mercilessly take the truth-bat to Milligan, especially her book. She needs to be exposed as the malicious charlatan and dissembler that she is. In fact, all the principals involved from VicPol, the DPP, through to the sexual abuse support groups need to be pick through with a fine-tooth comb.

    Hendo pretty much has already. She has never answered his criticisms.

  237. Snoopy

    Check out the number of boffins (with their photos) working at the James Cook University, Australian Research Council Centre for Excellence Barrier Reef Studies.

    Despite all this taxpayer funded effort, the GBR is doomed.

    Sad.

  238. hzhousewife

    And the cost of the search? Lovely?

    Send them the bill.

    Their relatives can help pay.

    The locals will not be amused.

  239. vlad

    Powell taught Gough Whitlam economics at Sydney University in 1938, and gave his opinion that Gough had a very second rate mind.

    He would have been teaching him Greek, Zulu.

    Gough never studied economics at all. Hawke offered to teach him the basics, but couldn’t get him to bite.

    My favourite story about Powell was that on an undergraduate Greek exam a question required a passage in English to be translated into Greek. Powell wrote out two translations – don’t quote me re the details, but it was to this effect – one in the style of Thucydides, the second in the style of Herodotus. And then having finished in half the time allotted he packed up and left the examination room.

    He won so many prizes as an undergraduate he was able to fund a comfortable lifestyle on the strength of that income alone.

  240. Check out the number of boffins (with their photos) working at the James Cook University, Australian Research Council Centre for Excellence Barrier Reef Studies.

    Crikey! One of them was a bottleshop boy at my place, he was working to save money to head off to uni.
    20 years or so later – & hey presto! Here he is.

  241. dover_beach

    My own hope is he gets a suspended sentence, itself to be overturned on appeal. As he leaves court, an earthquake occurs, a bow appears in the heavens and rainbow lorikeets alight on his arms – outstretched to bless and forgive his persecutors, Rumour Mill included – while a nimbus encircles his head.

    This would be condemned by the media as sorcery and evidence that he was in league with the prince of liars.

  242. Tel

    Despite all this taxpayer funded effort, the GBR is doomed.

    Don’t get too upset … the GBR will be doomed again next year.

    No one gets to six million years old without facing a bit of doom now and then.

  243. thefrollickingmole

    Snoopy.

    Im a bit sus about this one, I think they’ve been in-fin-trated by the opposition and gone native.

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