Monday Forum: March 11, 2019

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  1. Snoopy

    Ove Hoegh-Guldberg

    Professor, Deputy Director, and Chief Investigator

    What. A. Self. Important. Prat.

  2. Rockdoctor

    Well that was lightning fast… Can’t see application being in before he left as it would have been one of the angles the media would have used in their megaphone diplomacy…

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1643224/refugee-footballer-detained-in-bangkok-happy-hes-an-aussie-now

  3. Snoopy

    Very fishy, Mole. She has likely finned out more peer reviewed papers than anyone else on the team.

  4. John64

    One of The Liars intellectual giants on with Blot now, Senator Kimberley Kitching (a.k.a. Mrs Slanderyou):

    “The sun and wind are free so more renewables in the system will bring power prices down.”

    Remarkably Blot and James Patterson, while disagreeing, didn’t call her an effing imbecile.

  5. Snoopy

    Elderly Americans Are Dying Without Getting to Read Mueller’s Report – And They’re Not Happy About It

    Where you bin, Rip?

  6. JC

    CNN could be royally fucked here. US defamation law is very much in favor of the plaintiff when minors are involved.

    CNN to be sued for more than $250M over ‘vicious’ and ‘direct attacks’ on Covington Catholic student: lawyer

  7. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Journalist, editor and author Les Carlyon farewelled at racecourse

    Chip Le Grand
    Victorian Chief Reporter
    @Melbchief
    An hour ago March 12, 2019
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    They said goodbye to Les Carlyon on a Tuesday at Flemington. On his coffin lay a single yellow rose; a salute to Australia’s great race and the journalist who wrote it like no other could.

    In a dining room atop the Flemington grandstand, political and military leaders, historians and a generation of newspaper writers and broadcasters came to swap tales of a writer whose peeves included words out of place, reporters at their desks and eulogies too long or mawkish.

    Carlyon’s family later gathered in the mounting yard below for a private farewell. This is where you’d find him, on the first Tuesday in November, cigarette in mouth, eyes trained on everything that would matter for the next day’s edition.

    Carlyon could also be regularly found at the track in the pre-dawn hour, as strappers and trainers went about their work. Journalist Andrew Rule said Carlyon called it racing’s secret society.

    “You loved it and no one has ever described it better,’’ Rule said. “You understood the horse people who shared your taste for the jockey’s breakfast; a smoke and a good look around.’’

    Rule said Carlyon was a father, grandfather, critic, historian, mentor and mate, a teacher who never stopped learning and a perfectionist about everything that interested him. Best of all, Les, you were kind as well as clever. No ego, no spite. A rare quinella.’’

    From the Oz.

  8. OldOzzie

    stackja
    #2956580, posted on March 12, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    Missing bushwalkers found after going missing at Mt Buffalo on Friday
    Aneeka Simonis, Herald Sun
    an hour ago

    Subscriber only

    The hikers who spent five days lost on Mount Buffalo described the frosty nights as “serenity” and say they were never too far from help.

    Trevor Salvado, 60, and Cindy Bohan, 58, survived on snacks after becoming lost about two hours into a hike on Friday.

    Any Bushwalker who do not carry a EPIRB should be charged minimum $50,000.00 for the SearchTrevor Salvado, 60, and Cindy Bohan, 58 – Thick as Bricks</em>\\

    I don’t go 4WD Driving or Bushwalking without one – and always Sat Phone when Desert Driving

  9. Roger

    Well that was lightning fast…

    Well, at least he’s working and paying taxes and “happy to be an Aussie”.

    Mayor of the region wherein I’ve established my rural retreat/compound says new Muslim citizens are often sullen and won’t shake his hand.

  10. One ScoMo doesn’t make a Spring

    Stackja. And the cost of the search? Lovely?

    This story as presented by msm makes no sense. Why didn’t they send a text? Or use the compass on their phone… oh we could hear the choppers… so as ‘experienced’ hikers why didn’t they signal , make a marker .. do something!

    Wearing Kathmandu gear does not make you experienced hikers.

    FFS.

  11. Pedro the Ignorant

    Check out the number of boffins (with their photos) working at the James Cook University, Australian Research Council Centre for Excellence Barrier Reef Studies.

    One of my favourite holiday spots is Coral Bay in WA, a beaut little village very close to the Ningaloo Reef just offshore.

    In the winter months it is infested with tourists, but prominent among the many interstate caravaners and campers is always a gang of University “researchers” allegedly studying how the Ningaloo Reef is dying from Climate Change, fertiliser, oil drilling etc., whatever the fright du jour is this year.

    Always equipped with state of the art dive boats, dozens of scuba tanks, flash caravans and 4WD tow vehicles.

    They seem to spend every evening at the BBQ or pub restaurant, then the bar until closing time and only surface to go fishing or diving about lunchtime. Any “research” they do is not very obvious to the casual observer. Lots of good looking young dolly bird “research assistants” among the hairy male “professors”.

    Must be nice to have a job that supplies an all expenses paid and equipped holiday at a nice seaside resort during the cold winter months down south.

  12. cohenite

    Some plump liars party bint called kimberley kitching on Bolt saying wind and solar are free and storage will liberate us….and climate change. The zealotry was wrapped in ego but the intensity and conviction in the eyes of this moon faced idiot is a measure of where this country will go quickly under tits and slightly less quickly under the gutless libs.

  13. cohenite

    John64

    #2956611, posted on March 12, 2019 at 7:57 pm

    Snap.

  14. Roger

    Must be nice to have a job that supplies an all expenses paid and equipped holiday at a nice seaside resort during the cold winter months down south.

    The revolution is being subsidised with our taxes, comrade.

  15. Tel

    Any Bushwalker who do not carry a EPIRB should be charged minimum $50,000.00 for the Search

    Back in the day, we used to carry maps.

  16. zyconoclast

    The Un-American Civil Liberties Union?

    Court gives illegal immigrants new right of appeal before deportation

    Some illegal immigrants gained a new right of appeal Thursday when a federal appeals court ruled that Congress cannot prevent them from challenging their deportations in federal courts.

    The American Civil Liberties Union, which had argued the case, called it a “sweeping” decision that will give asylum-seekers the chance to make their case in a regular U.S. court, rather than being limited to bureaucrats and judges in the immigration court system.

    The ruling was issued by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and only applies to cases within that region — including the border states of California and Arizona.

    The three-judge panel — all appointees of President Clinton — said Congress cannot short-circuit access to the courts for illegal immigrants who say they wanted to ask for asylum but were given short-shrift by the Homeland Security Department.

    They said migrants arriving in the U.S., even those without status, have a habeas corpus right to have their treatment reviewed by federal courts, particularly because there are only “meager” safeguards built into the system already.

  17. Roger

    Back in the day, we used to carry maps.

    And a compass.

  18. zyconoclast

    Border agents are told to target Spanish speakers, records show
    “We know they are trying to get at Central American asylum-seekers but to see it written there so blatantly is so disturbing,” an ACLU attorney said.

  19. Snoopy

    The zealotry was wrapped in ego but the intensity and conviction in the eyes of this moon faced idiot is a measure of where this country will go quickly under tits and slightly less quickly under the gutless libs.

    Bring it on. The quicker we go full Veneztralia the quicker we might start the road to recovery. I want to see every fossil-fueled power station dynamited tomorrow.

  20. Tel

    And a compass.

    I still have my first! And second …

    Haven’t touched them in years though.

  21. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Some plump liars party bint called kimberley kitching

    The same Kimberly Kitching who got her bottom smacked by the Royal Commission into Trade Union Corruption?

  22. zyconoclast

    She Built NYC Honors Five Trailblazing Women With Statues Around City

    She Built NYC is commissioning statues of five trailblazing women whose extraordinary contributions forever changed New York City.

    Statues of Rep. Shirley Chisholm, Billie Holiday, Elizabeth Jennings Graham, Dr. Helen Rodriguez Trías, and Katherine Walker will be installed throughout the city’s five boroughs. They are the result of She Built NYC, a campaign launched to honor women who have shaped New York City while addressing the absence of female statues in our public spaces.

    Just five out of 150 statues in New York currently depict women.

    She Built NYC aims to address the gap by ensuring that half of the city’s monuments depict women or subjects related to women’s history.

    The first group of She Built NYC statues were selected through an open call that drew over 2,000 nominations from the public.

  23. Back in the day, we used to carry maps.

    speaking of,

    google have changed their terms and conditions for your android phone.
    they can now use “location services” to locate your phone, even when you think you have disabled “location services”. Also your location history will be maintained by google, even if you don’t want it (anonymously of course /sarcoff).

    If you can’t be found, it’s because google doesn’t want to find you.

  24. One ScoMo doesn’t make a Spring

    Tel Back in the day, we used to carry maps.

    Yes and they were within walking distance of a caravan park!!!

    Send them the bill. … or at least a 10%

  25. Oh come on

    Built over 28 acres of a working rail yard on Manhattan’s west side, Hudson Yards is the largest ever privately built real estate project in the US, with a cost of around $28 billion.

    USD28 billion for a single scraper? Wow! It has 100 levels but still.

  26. Snoopy

    TheirABC

    “A massive setback for the wave energy INDUSTRY”

    LOL.

  27. One ScoMo doesn’t make a Spring

    Snoopy thank you

    Veneztralia is now my official word of the week and should work well with my favourite.

    Shitholification is my fav.

  28. Snoopy

    How does Alan Kohler get to feature his Twitter handle on TheirABC’s News when his Twitter account pushes his personal business?

  29. John64

    The same Kimberly Kitching who got her bottom smacked by the Royal Commission into Trade Union Corruption?

    One and the same; although, apart from the lightest of taps on the bottom from Commissioner Dyson Heydon, she got away with it totally scot-free.

  30. Snoopy

    Snoopy thank you

    ScoMo, I didn’t coin that word but you have my permission to use it!

  31. Roger

    And a compass.

    I still have my first! And second … Haven’t touched them in years though.

    I have my grandfather’s scouting compass and still use it.

    It’s fun to be an analogue bloke in a digital world…you never have to worry about the battery going dead.

  32. Tel

    Shitholification is my fav.

    We need more of a shitholistic approach to this.

  33. dover_beach

    House votes in favor of illegal immigrant voting

    There will be blood.

  34. Exit Stage Right

    Kimberley Kitching!.

    One of the reasons that I stopped taking any notice of Andrew Bolt. If he had any testes whatsoever, this bint would be consigned to the skip. What a nasty piece of work she is. Can’t stand Paul Murray either because he has that fuckwit Nicolas Reece and that sad Kiwi reject Darryn Hunch polluting the airwaves.
    How can Kimberley Kitching be a Senator after what came out of the RC into Unions?

  35. vlad

    It’s fun to be an analogue bloke in a digital world…you never have to worry about the battery going dead.

    Absolutely. And you can take a book off the shelf that you bought thirty years earlier and as soon as you open it for the very first time it powers up and the operating system still works.

  36. zyconoclast

    ‘Change now or pay later’: RBA’s stark warning on climate change

    In a speech to the Centre for Policy Development in Sydney, the Reserve’s deputy governor Guy Debelle said challenges for financial stability may arise from both physical and transition risks of climate change.

    “What if droughts are more frequent, or cyclones happen more often?” he asked.

  37. John64

    How can Kimberley Kitching be a Senator after what came out of the RC into Unions?

    Her hubby knows where the Victorian ALP skeletons are hidden. Lots and lots of skeletons.

  38. Roger

    Absolutely. And you can take a book off the shelf that you bought thirty years earlier and as soon as you open it for the very first time it powers up and the operating system still works.

    And your notes are all still there! 🙂

    Bought some e-texts early on in the ’90s and they very soon became redundant and inoperable.

    Lesson learned.

  39. vlad

    A post about EG Witless and Enoch definitely went into the spaminator.

    Basically EGW never studied the dis mal science under anyone. Enoch taught him Greek.

    Oeco nomics remained all Greek to EGW.

  40. Eyrie

    “Check out the number of boffins (with their photos) working at the James Cook University, Australian Research Council Centre for Excellence Barrier Reef Studies.”
    I checked out the link. All I saw was a pack of bludgers.

  41. C.L.

    Being advertised throughout Australia tonight on all Nine news bulletins and forums …

    WIN News

    Tomorrow our cameras will take you LIVE inside of the courtroom, for the sentencing of George Pell.

    Tune into our LIVE broadcast on @SkyNewsAust on WIN, tomorrow at 10am on Channel 83.

  42. Who is this squeezer going by the moniker of Leith van Onselen?

  43. Eyrie

    “He reckons it’s coming and it’s the big one.”
    So it takes out a bunch of leftists and the shithole they live in? What’s the downside?

  44. C.L.

    They said goodbye to Les Carlyon on a Tuesday at Flemington. On his coffin lay a single yellow rose; a salute to Australia’s great race and the journalist who wrote it like no other could.

    A sad way to end a great career. A bogan funeral at a racecourse.

  45. vr

    Get in here Catholic cats and explain this..

    Kansas archdiocese responds after denying school admission to child of same sex-couple

    A K-8 Catholic school in Kansas is defending its decision to deny admission to a kindergarten student who is the child of a same-sex couple, citing archdiocesan admissions policies.

    Father Craig Maxim sent a letter dated February 27 to the families of St. Ann Catholic School in Prairie Hills, a suburb of Kansas City. Maxim, the church’s pastor, wrote that when the question of whether to allow the child to enroll first arose, he sought the guidance of the Archdiocese of Kansas City in Kansas.

    He wrote that diocese has the ability to “form policy on these matters while individual diocesan schools do not.” The archdiocese advised against admission, he said.

    A petition dated March 1 asks the school to “prayerfully reconsider” its decision. The petition has reportedly garnered over 1,000 signatures and was sent to Archbishop Joseph Naumann and the school’s superintendent Kathy O’Hara.

    The petition claims that the school admits children of parents who are divorced and remarried or have conceived through in-vitro fertilization, as well as non-Catholic children and families.

    “Respectfully, we believe that the decision to deny a child of God access to such a wonderful community and education, based on the notion that his or her parent’s union is not in accordance with the Church’s teaching on Sacramental marriage, lacks the compassion and mercy of Christ’s message,” the petition reads.

  46. 2dogs

    What if droughts are more frequent … ?

    Has the IPCC made a prediction on how increased will affect average precipitation? For any region?

    If so, I must have missed it. Any link?

  47. C.L.

    WIN News

    Tomorrow our cameras will take you LIVE inside of the courtroom, for the sentencing of George Pell.

    Tune into our LIVE broadcast on @SkyNewsAust on WIN, tomorrow at 10am on Channel 83.

    Given that an appeal is pending and that this is no normal case – not to mention the unprecedented vilification, courthouse catcalling and all-round insanity attending everything to do with Pell’s person – Kidd’s vainglorious decision to immortalise himself via television doesn’t say much for his character or sense of judicial detachment.

  48. C.L.

    Get in here Catholic cats and explain this.

    Explain what?

  49. DrBeauGan

    Given that an appeal is pending and that this is no normal case – not to mention the unprecedented vilification, courthouse catcalling and all-round insanity attending everything to do with Pell’s person – Kidd’s vainglorious decision to immortalise himself via television doesn’t say much for his character or sense of judicial detachment.

    Agree completely. He’s making a circus of it.

  50. DrBeauGan

    vr
    #2956660, posted on March 12, 2019 at 8:46 pm
    Get in here Catholic cats and explain this..

    Kansas archdiocese responds after denying school admission to child of same sex-couple

    In their situation, I’d do the same. Their arguments are fair and reasonable.

  51. vr

    Explain what?

    The hypocrisy of admitting kids with divorced parents, but not kids with gay parents. Though, I can see how this be just a ploy to cause more pain to Kentucky parish.

  52. C.L.

    The hypocrisy of admitting kids with divorced parents, but not kids with gay parents.

    Somebody explain the basics of human reproduction to vr.
    The child doesn’t have “gay parents.”
    There is a parent missing.
    Why don’t you explain why he or she was banned by the couple?
    Then we’ll talk.

  53. Old School Conservative

    He’s making a circus of it.

    As a clever Cat said here recently (IIRC):
    Anonymous complainant – check.
    Secret trial – check.
    Public execution – check.

  54. Leigh Lowe

    Snoopy

    #2956641, posted on March 12, 2019 at 8:25 pm

    How does Alan Kohler get to feature his Twitter handle on TheirABC’s News when his Twitter account pushes his personal business?

    They assiduously avoid any reference to commercial sponsorships of sporting events, stadiums, whatever, but happily promote the products of members in the collective.
    I can recall an evening presenter who pushed a music fesrival (along with his mates in the collective). Turned out he was the promoter. Apparently if you only make $10k or $20k, no problems. It is not “Big” or “Corporate”.
    And the Saturday morning gardening would always introduce their guest as Ms XYZ from “Vivid Design”.
    Fuck knows how much business has been generated from that free advertising (along with the contra freebies for ABC luvvies).

  55. Notafan

    It’s well explained in the article.

    Divorced is not the same as same sex marriage.

    There is still a father and a mother and so is consistent with Catholic teaching on the nature of the family and marriage even if less than perfect in practice.

    I simply don’t know why people who so vehemently oppose church teaching do this, other than to cause trouble.

    It is their child that will suffer the most from hearing one thing at school and the other at home.

  56. Roger

    Get in here Catholic cats and explain this..

    ?

    Not a Catholic, but as a private school (iiuc Catholic schools in the US don’t receive public funding) don’t they have the right to decide who to enrol?

    And even if public funding were available, shouldn’t it respect pluralism?

    After all, society itself is quite plural.

  57. None

    Always amazes me how the god haters demand their kids go to a god school. if you define yourself by your sexuality (gay) then your god is your dick,

  58. vr

    C’mon, CL! I’m sympathetic to the Church’s position. However, you can’t be lax when it comes to one aspect (divorce) and then claim you have to adhere to its position on the other. I am just asking, why no consistency?

  59. Roger

    After all, society itself is quite plural.

    In fact, our governments at all levels make a virtue of pluralism under the rubric of multiculturalism.

  60. Leigh Lowe

    vr

    #2956660, posted on March 12, 2019 at 8:46 pm

    Get in here Catholic cats and explain this..

    Kansas archdiocese responds after denying school admission to child of same sex-couple

    It’s called normalcy and upholding our Judeo-Christian culture of more than 2000 years.
    Next.

  61. vr

    Nevermind, Notafan has pointed it out..

  62. Arky

    Somebody explain the basics of human reproduction to vr.

    ..
    Vr:
    When the Daddy loves the Mummy he hugs her, and puts his penis into her vagina.
    Then a baby comes into the world.

  63. vlad

    Personally I’d let the tacker in and try to undo the damage of his/her progenitors and their menage.

    The offspring of turkey-basting and the like is not to blame for how he/she came into existence and shouldn’t be denied the opportunity of hearing the truth and a decent education.

  64. Arky

    I may have missed a few steps involving 1970’s pop LPs, the couch and a six pack of Coronas.

  65. Arky

    The couch or the back seat of the Cortina.

  66. DrBeauGan

    I don’t think a couple of twisted perverts should be allowed to bring up a child. It has to be bad for the child.

  67. Leigh Lowe

    I don’t think a couple of twisted perverts should be allowed to bring up a child. It has to be bad for the child.

    But enough about Kevin Rudd’s parents.

  68. MatrixTransform

    Who is this squeezer going by the moniker of Leith van Onselen

    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/

    whatever you do, don’t pony up for a subscription and then post anything critical of Warmysticism in the comments.

    just saying

  69. Gab

    Given that an appeal is pending and that this is no normal case – not to mention the unprecedented vilification, courthouse catcalling and all-round insanity attending everything to do with Pell’s person – Kidd’s vainglorious decision to immortalise himself via television doesn’t say much for his character or sense of judicial detachment.

    Hideous. Remembering the trial was held in secret and now this. It’s purely aimed at humiliating Cdl Pell further.

  70. cohenite

    2dogs

    #2956661, posted on March 12, 2019 at 8:48 pm

    What if droughts are more frequent … ?

    Has the IPCC made a prediction on how increased will affect average precipitation? For any region?

    If so, I must have missed it. Any link?

    The IPCC says no.

  71. DrBeauGan

    vlad
    #2956680, posted on March 12, 2019 at 9:17 pm
    Personally I’d let the tacker in and try to undo the damage of his/her progenitors and their menage.

    The offspring of turkey-basting and the like is not to blame for how he/she came into existence and shouldn’t be denied the opportunity of hearing the truth and a decent education.

    Discovering that your school is firmly of the opinion that your “parents” are twisted sickos can’t help but cause the kid problems. It might be kinder to let it find out later.

  72. areff

    vlad: there’s a good chance it’s a deliberate provocation to generate just this sort of publicity. We can expect likewise, should the various parliaments pass laws demanding the seal of confession be broken.

    Bet your bottom dollar on this: someone will pop into a confessional, say “bless me father for I have been buggaring apple-cheeeked lads left and right since Adam was a boy, who I buggared too, just incidentally.”

    Tape running. Straight off to the Ashtone Kops. Prosecution certain. Louise Milligan gets another Walkley.

    Sure as eggs.

  73. John Constantine

    https://www.thecourier.com.au/story/5748754/catholic-church-is-paying-dues-but-grass-roots-impact-is-the-real-cost/

    The Ballarat diocese announced this week that it was moving its schools into a new corporate structure, without priests at the top.

    Ballarat diocese extended over most of the western part of victoria, and was ground zero for horrific past behaviour and cover-ups. The redress scheme will fall hard here.

    Got an old mate whose post traumatic stress is kicking in seriously with this news cycle, and no, he has never hit the church up for a cent.

    The millionaires that went around to see parents and intimidate them into silence so that business as usual could continue, these men walk away with their fortunes intact, while the church pays for their actions.

    Out of the region cats will never know how bad it got, how long for and how many men colluded to keep it all quiet. Suicide rates among schoolboys exposed to this system are so far above the norm, that alone is telling evidence.

    I am not referring to the Pell case in any way, but if you view the suicides from abuse as being as good as murder, then australias most prolific serial killers were at work. Stories of a quarter of the boys from some schoolclasses ending up killing themselves.

  74. candy

    Remembering the trial was held in secret and now this. It’s purely aimed at humiliating Cdl Pell further.

    And Catholics all around Australia.

    They would never do this with a Muslim. So you know it’s aimed at demeaning Catholics on a national basis.

  75. Gab

    I wonder why the gay “couple” don’t take their child to a muslim school or even a public school? #weddingcakesjustthebeginning

  76. Gab

    Out of the region cats will never know how bad it got, how long for and how many men colluded to keep it all quiet.

    Including the police and the media at the time.

  77. vr

    Is this the first time ever a camera has been allowed in the court? Why didn’t the Cardinal’s lawyers object?

  78. DrBeauGan

    I am not referring to the Pell case in any way, but if you view the suicides from abuse as being as good as murder, then australias most prolific serial killers were at work. Stories of a quarter of the boys from some schoolclasses ending up killing themselves.

    Which proves that some evil homosexual shits have done some serious infiltration. I’d hang them.

  79. egg_

    Shitholification

    Teh UN Shitholification of Oz is the LibLab policy platform.

  80. candy

    The offspring of turkey-basting and the like is not to blame for how he/she came into existence and shouldn’t be denied the opportunity of hearing the truth and a decent education.

    I agree but it may be an attempt by the “parents”, to get their child accepted by a Catholic school as a way of normalising the kid’s life. Kindness would be to enrol the child in a school that totally accepts same sex marriage and all that it entails.
    Truly loving parents would do that, surely, rather than embarrass, make a media issue, bring attention on a little child who should just go to school in the most suited environment for him or her. Child must come first.

  81. vlad

    You may be right, areff.

    I pray not.

  82. dover_beach

    Stories of a quarter of the boys from some schoolclasses ending up killing themselves.

    Let’s see the evidence. This sounds a little too incredible.

  83. C.L.

    The other thing I would say about the Kansas couple is that they’re almost certainly trolling.
    Their behaviour in publicising the matter looks like a traditional case of homosexuals weaponising a child. In any case, they are self-evidently uninterested in the orthodox Christian education of a child.

  84. cohenite

    Even the RBA treats man made fucking warming as a done deal and includes climate change in its prognosis.

    This is fucking insane.

  85. C.L.

    I am not referring to the Pell case in any way, but if you view the suicides from abuse as being as good as murder, then Australia’s most prolific serial killers were at work.

    I agree with the comparison. They were serial killers.

    The good old days were not good in many respects. We have to acknowledge this. The culture of physical terrorism and corporal punishment practiced by those appalling drunks the Christian Brothers, as another example, wrecked the educations of thousands of boys, quite apart from their equally appalling record of sexual abuse. They hid behind macho demeanor and bogus strictness to lull parents into thinking they were masculine exemplars.

  86. Tel

    Even the RBA treats man made fucking warming as a done deal and includes climate change in its prognosis.

    Completely independent from government … you must believe that.

  87. candy

    Even the RBA treats man made fucking warming as a done deal and includes climate change in its prognosis.
    This is fucking insane.

    Labor have certainly gone hard left in the last six months, even Chris Bowen who I thought was quite moderate and business minded. They must have been pretending up until then.
    Perhaps we have to have a Labor/Green coalition again to see the results of their policies fully and truly.
    Open borders and de-industrialisation.

  88. Snoopy

    cohenite
    #2956704, posted on March 12, 2019 at 9:55 pm
    Even the RBA treats man made fucking warming as a done deal and includes climate change in its prognosis.

    This is fucking insane.

    There is only one way out. Dynamite every fossil-fueled power station in the nation. Now.

    No gain without pain.

  89. Mark A

    Perhaps we have to have a Labor/Green coalition again to see the results of their policies fully and truly.

    I used to think, let the libs. destroy themselves and show us how bad labor can be.
    Not so sure now.

    What if nothing good replaces the libs. and at the same time labor gets entrenched in power?

  90. Snoopy

    even Chris Bowen who I thought was quite moderate and business minded

    What business experience does that stump turtle possess?

  91. jupes

    From cohenite’s link above:

    The current drought in Australia has cut farm output by 6 per cent and reduced economic growth by 0.15 per cent, a drag on the economy Mr Debelle said would continue this year.

    As opposed to global warming policies? Have the clowns at the RBA worked out the cost to the economy of subsidising intermittents and blowing up power stations? Morons.

  92. C.L.

    Stories of a quarter of the boys from some schoolclasses ending up killing themselves.

    Be wary of “stories” about suicides. That was one of the egregious, deliberate perjuries in ‘evidence’ given by Graham Ashton to a Victorian parliamentary committee.

    Victoria Police has been exposed vastly overstating the number of suicides related to child-sex abuse by Catholic clergy… The assertion that 43 suicide deaths were related to Catholic abuse was a central reason for the formation of the Victorian inquiry, which in turn was a key reason the national sex abuse royal commission was formed…. Mr Ashton told the Victorian inquiry in late 2012 that the force was examining for the coroner 43 suicide deaths allegedly related to church abuse… But at the same time … a police Sexual Crimes Squad investigation was wound up, detailing how the original claims of up to 43 deaths could not be substantiated… Operation Plangere could substantiate only one firm case…. Despite knowing for more than two years that the figure was grossly wrong, the force has never publicly corrected it, regardless of the enormous damage it caused the church.

  93. vlad

    Good night. It’s going to be a long day tomorrow.

    I wish Cardinal Pell especially the sleep of the just.

  94. dover_beach

    Operation Plangere could substantiate only one firm case…. Despite knowing for more than two years that the figure was grossly wrong, the force has never publicly corrected it, regardless of the enormous damage it caused the church.

    1 out of 43, and they haven’t even bothered to correct the public record. What a disgrace, made all the more possible because they are never brought to task by a single member of Parliament.

  95. None

    Given that an appeal is pending and that this is no normal case – not to mention the unprecedented vilification, courthouse catcalling and all-round insanity attending everything to do with Pell’s person – Kidd’s vainglorious decision to immortalise himself via television doesn’t say much for his character or sense of judicial detachment.

    exactly. the minute I heard it was going to be televised I thought ok Kidd wants to virtue signal. expect an over the top sentence for what is essentially 3 counts of flashing, one wedgie and a highly improbable case of oral sex ( because the “kid” didn’t even turn his head or keep his mouth shut until afterwards).

  96. Des Deskperson

    ‘Don’t let your jaw hit the desk as you read it.’

    The bit – albeit minor – that intrigued me was how the allegedly tortured alter boy finally learned to read on the basis of material from the ABC Shop.

    The Quadrant author pointed out that there was no ABC shop in the area, or indeed anywhere else in Australia, in 1969.

    It may, of course, be a simple error of memory, but the idea that a child almost destroyed by Catholics regained his life via the ABC is one that would surely resonate with anti-Catholic ‘progressives’. It is certainly, as they say, fortuitous.

  97. None

    Not just Ashton but the acting detective seargeant needs investigation. especially after he fucked up royally with the Theophanous affair. frankly I think he neeeds a mental assessment.

  98. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    1 out of 43, and they haven’t even bothered to correct the public record. What a disgrace, made all the more possible because they are never brought to task by a single member of Parliament.

    If there was any justice in this world, Fattty Ashton’s flying circus would be did banded, and the job of maintaining the law in Victoriastan would be handed open to proper, professional police officers.

  99. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    disbanded, FFS.

  100. None

    The bit – albeit minor – that intrigued me was how the allegedly tortured alter boy finally learned to read on the basis of material from the ABC Shop.

    OMG that is a new one on me. FMD Pell’s first instinct was correct. Delusions of a mad man.

  101. None

    Pedro the Ignorant
    #2956619, posted on March 12, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    Everything wrong with the climate summed up perfectly in one short anecdote.

  102. Old School Conservative

    A snapshot of what’s good and bad in Australia:
    The Telegraph has a story about a brawl in Newport, Sydney.

    The good – off duty female police officer steps in to help older man being assaulted by 3 youths. Members of the public step in to help her and him. 6 police cars arrive quickly (worried about the police officer’s lack of communication). 3 youths arrested.

    The bad – one of the arrested youths is only 12. Obviously well coached – one yells out “don’t touch my dick” as he is held down by police.

  103. C.L.

    There is a triumphalist-maximalist policy afoot regarding Pell and his appeal. That is, a defamation free zone now exists owing to the current licitness of speaking and writing of the Cardinal as a convicted ped0-ph1le and probable unindicted serial offender guilty of other enormities. While this can be said, asserted, publicised and canonised as history, it will be endlessly, in the most red mastheads, on the most yellow pages and in the most purple prose. ‘Let’s get in now while we can,’ is the thinking. Because, you never know, the party might be shut down on the last day of the appeal. They’re like dead-eyed drunks who can’t bear even the thought of tomorrow morning.

  104. dover_beach

    OMG that is a new one on me. FMD Pell’s first instinct was correct. Delusions of a mad man.

    Different fabulist. The ABC autodidact was the one alleging he was raped in a dungeon, etc. to the laughs of nuns.

  105. dover_beach

    C.L., you really are a master wordsmith.

  106. Old School Conservative

    Has any media outlet analysed the “Get Pell” televisual feast?
    I’d be interested in the rationale, precedents, and arguments for and against.

  107. Bushkid

    Tel
    #2956630, posted on March 12, 2019 at 8:17 pm
    And a compass.

    I still have my first! And second …

    Haven’t touched them in years though.

    Me too, Tel, along with all the maps I’ve ever pored over, plotted on and planned with!
    Maps and compass – the only way to go. On my last trek I did take a GPS, but only to proof positions on a relocated section of a trail; and I still have an EPIRB that’s never had to be used. A dicky ankle is now making hikes impossible, but the compasses and maps are with me for life – they’re simply lovely artefacts!

  108. None

    Thanks Dover. Same assessment required.

  109. Fisky

    Who is this squeezer going by the moniker of Leith van Onselen

    One of the few honest Leftists going around, author of many brilliant exposes of the ponzi economy and the mortgage fraud and migration rorts that prop it up.

  110. None

    C.L., you really are a master wordsmith.

    Agree, and also a superb analyst. That “window of defamation opportunity”… spot on.

  111. None

    so Leith can’t be related to PVO then.

  112. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Front page of the Oz has Bill Shorten and the unions pushing for a $43 a week wage rise, and blasting “fat cat employers.”

    Australia, you’re standing in it.

  113. Fisky

    Leith Van Onselen was recently on the Bolt Report, exposing the Big Australia open borders ponzi scheme –

  114. None

    absolutely agree areff. Eggs on toast.

  115. Snoopy

    Fisky, explain how a Chinese parent visa can cost taxpayers $100k per year.

  116. None

    Is this the first time ever a camera has been allowed in the court? Why didn’t the Cardinal’s lawyers object?

    The minute they announced cameras as this was an “open trial” you knew the fix was in. The trouble is pur press are such wankers they won’t let you criticise the courts or individual judges. The judiciary need to remember they work for us.

  117. 2dogs

    The petition claims that the school admits … non-Catholic children and families.

    May I venture to suggest that this claim is not entirely true?

    Many Catholic schools require a baptism certificate, and some even require the parents obtain a letter from their local parish regarding regular mass attendance.

  118. mh

    Australia’s immigration program should never accomodate a student visa leading to a permanent resident visa.

    It is total bullshit. Go home, get a job/career, then apply for a Australian permanent resident visa.

  119. max

    I don’t know about the Christian Brothers but there were more men teachers back then and lots were barely qualified if at all. It was a post war world, pretty brutal and not so indulgent towards kids. I don’t feel like condemning the Brothers, and most weren’t sadistic child molesters. They did a great job of educating the sons of Irish and Italian immigrants and helped them on to university and the professions. For many such families this was a kind of miracle.

  120. Fisky

    Snoopy
    #2956739, posted on March 12, 2019 at 11:01 pm
    Fisky, explain how a Chinese parent visa can cost taxpayers $100k per year.

    Not 100K per year. More like 400K over 20 years. None of the conditions attached to their visa will hold, and they will be given permanent residence and the right to draw a pension eventually, just like the country shoppers who made it here did. That’s how this stuff always rolls.

  121. Old School Conservative

    Wimps.
    2 of the 3 men on PML didn’t stand up for men-only clubs.

  122. Leigh Lowe

    The good old days were not good in many respects. We have to acknowledge this. The culture of physical terrorism and corporal punishment practiced by those appalling drunks the Christian Brothers, as another example, wrecked the educations of thousands of boys, quite apart from their equally appalling record of sexual abuse. They hid behind macho demeanor and bogus strictness to lull parents into thinking they were masculine exemplars.

    My Catholic education was mixed, and I should be wary of judging my experiences by today’s standards.
    Some of the nuns, brothers and lay teachers were brilliant, most were very capable, but a few were as described by CL.
    One of the Christian Brothers and our parish priest are now guests of Her Majesty, and I think I was fortunate to escape their clutches. Another was simply an immature sociopath who shouldn’t have been anywhere near kids.
    During year ten I dreamed about being conscripted to Vietnam … how much fucking worse could it be?

  123. struth

    Yes. The Stupid Fucking Liberals are enacting Greens policy to bring in more Muslims in a single year than had ever come in by Labor’s opening of the borders.

    And other stupid Fucking idiots think it’s a Greens policy , and not the U.N.

  124. Leigh Lowe

    I agree, max.
    There was a lot of good with a dash of brutal ugliness thrown in.

  125. None

    2dogs some Catholic schools here take a percentage of non Catholics so you get Muslims in hijabs in catholic schools. But usually at least one parent must be baptised. Don’t think Catholic schools are necessarily better. Catholic school teachers have told me the leftist bullshit is often greater because parents demand leftist bullshit and think they can because they pay fees. I know Catholics who have sent their kids to non Catholic private schools.

  126. Harlequin Decline

    Flew out of Sydney on Sunday. Just before we boarded the plane the final words from Australia came over the PA system-

    ……..the urinal in the men’s toilets near gate 30 is full and overflowing……

  127. Fisky

    Australia’s immigration program should never accomodate a student visa leading to a permanent resident visa.

    There are two pathways here. The Indian pathway, which is Masters/PhD program -> Domino’s store manager -> permanent residence, then bring in the parents. The Chinese pathway is a bit more interesting, commerce degree -> real estate go-between (i.e. tour guide/translator for PRC investment property buyers, read: money launderers) -> permanent residence -> bring the parents over.

    All to keep the glorious Ponzi economy humming, and Labor in power forever!

  128. 2dogs

    If found the rules for the particular Catholic school in question here

    Seems like this school has a pecking order, that has active local church attendance AND volunteering at the top. I suspect the gay couple weren’t turning up to church, got placed at the end of the queue, and just didn’t make the cut.

  129. Leigh Lowe

    But I did learn to conjugate Latin verbs, so there is that.

  130. None

    mr. n was educated by the marists. Boarded. Loved it. But from the stories he’s told me I would say not a Few were sadists and it took some feisty boys to stand up to them. Interestingly a couple disappeared after student rebellions which says to me they already had form.

  131. jupes

    2 of the 3 men on PML didn’t stand up for men-only clubs.

    Who was the stand-alone?

  132. None

    Spot on Fiskyexcept the Indian one is justenroll and then defer defer.

  133. Who is this squeezer going by the moniker of Leith van Onselen

    One of the few honest Leftists going around, author of many brilliant exposes of the ponzi economy and the mortgage fraud and migration rorts that prop it up.

    Thank you.
    Though if his writing on that link today is any guide, he’s far from honest.
    Or far from knowledgeable.
    What he wrote there wouldn’t withstand a decent fisking.

  134. jupes

    During year ten I dreamed about being conscripted to Vietnam … how much fucking worse could it be?

    Much worse. Most veterans enjoyed their tour of Vietnam. Many of them went back.

  135. None

    Amo amas aMat Amamus amatis amant

    Stupid auto correct hates Latin.

  136. Snoopy

    The Indian pathway, which is Masters/PhD program -> Domino’s store manager -> permanent residence, then bring in the parents.

    The Domino’s owned by an Indian under the business migration visa program.

  137. Leigh Lowe

    If you want to get an idea of how child abuse fucks people up, watch “Leaving Neverland”.
    And it was far, far worse than anything we have seen here, because mothers basically prostituted their sons on the promise of fame and fortune.
    A mother stays in the house and allows her 7 year old to sleep in the same bed as a 35 year old?
    Fuck off.
    But many of the kids still “loved” Jackson. One described how, when he had his own kids he got outraged at the mere thought that someone might do that to his kid, but still never got angry at Jackson for what he actually did.

  138. mh

    There are two pathways here. The Indian pathway, which is Masters/PhD program -> Domino’s store manager -> permanent residence, then bring in the parents. The Chinese pathway is a bit more interesting, commerce degree -> real estate go-between (i.e. tour guide/translator for PRC investment property buyers, read: money launderers) -> permanent residence -> bring the parents over.

    And the Coalition have encouraged this from John Howard onwards. Disgraceful.

  139. Leigh Lowe

    Amo amas aMat Amamus amatis amant

    Nice try, but I think that is the Mexican hat dance.

  140. Old School Conservative

    jupes
    #2956757, posted on March 12, 2019 at 11:20 pm
    2 of the 3 men on PML didn’t stand up for men-only clubs.

    Who was the stand-alone?

    Nick Cater.
    Murray and Steve Nixon (One Nation Qld candidate) pooh-poohed them.

  141. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    During year ten I dreamed about being conscripted to Vietnam … how much fucking worse could it be?

    I could cite you examples of POGO’s who had an office job somewhere – office hours, drinks in the bar after work, a Vietnamese girlfriend, and looked down their noses, at anyone at the sharp end, as being mugs who weren’t smart enough to get a good job, like them.

  142. None

    What? I thought that was a perfect first conjugation verb. Present active indicative no less. 🤔

    hrmph

  143. Leigh Lowe

    I happened to walk past my alma mater over Christmas.
    Placarded near the entrance was the now ubiquitous “Smokink Within 4 Metres of Zis Entrance Iss VERBOTEN”
    (Cherman emphasis added).
    I wondered aloud to Mrs L whether or not, back in the day, a schoolboy lighting up a Stuyvo 5 metres from the entrance would have passed without retribution.

  144. jupes

    If you want to get an idea of how child abuse fucks people up, watch “Leaving Neverland”.

    I have believed Jackson was a pedo since 1993 when he paid over $20 mil to a kid to shut up. His criminal trial was a gift brought on by an unscrupulous mother going for the big payday. Those charges were false so he was able to legally clear his name but not his reputation (for me anyway).

    Interesting also that one of the ‘victims’ in “Leaving Neverland” was a defense witness in Jackson’s criminal trial. He was 22 years old at the time. So either he was payed by Jackson to lie at the trial, or he is lying now. For money. He has zero credibility and therefore so does the movie.

    I also have zero respect for all the radio stations who have now stopped playing Jackson’s music. There are no more credible accusations against him now then there were in 1993. They are just immoral pricks jumping on the stupid #metoo bandwagon.

  145. jupes

    Nick Cater.

    Good on him.

    Murray and Steve Nixon (One Nation Qld candidate) pooh-poohed them.

    No surprises there.

  146. mh

    From bom site:
    Brisbane @ 10.40pm: 26.1 deg C and 84 % Rel Humidity

    And earlier:
    Brisbane max temp today 37.7 deg C

    Very uncomfortable. And it’s not summer.

  147. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I happened to walk past my alma mater over Christmas.

    I’ve been past my alma mater once in nearly fifty years. The motto, embossed over the gate, arouses painful memories.

    What does “Arbeit Macht Frei” mean, anyway?

  148. Leigh Lowe

    Jupes, really?
    Michael Jackson was a disgusting p.3do.
    Like all of the worst p.3dos, he made his victims feel like they were part of it, that they made him do it.
    FMD, a 35 year old with no record of adult relationships… straight or gay … just loves sleeping with primary school boys because, Peter Pan.
    Yep, the defence witnesses in the 1993 trial were bought, paid for, coached and threatened.
    Hope he enjoyed gagging on his own vomit at the end.
    As for his music?
    Won’t be missed.
    Banal sugary pop, even before it was confirmed that he was playing in the juvenile violin section.

  149. jupes

    Jupes, really?
    Michael Jackson was a disgusting p.3do.

    I agree.

    My point is that this documentary does nothing to prove that, as it has no credibility.

  150. None

    Each of the five charges – one of sexual penetration of a child under 16 and four of committing an indecent act with or in the presence of a child – carries a maximum jail term of 10 years but the penalties on the five charges will mostly be served concurrently.

    According to Sentencing Advisory Council statistics from 2011 to 2016, 53 per cent of people guilty of sexual penetration of a child under 16 in Victoria are jailed, while prison terms were imposed on 77 per cent of those guilty of committing an indecent act.

    According to the Sodomy Moaning Herald, people, flashing your dick is more likely to see you get time than shoving your dick into a kid’s mouth or up their arse.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/world-will-be-watching-as-pell-sentenced-for-child-sexual-abuse-20190312-p513ks.html

  151. Harlequin Decline

    Picked up the hire car on Monday. An Isuzu Mux with a feature I haven’t seen before, a forward looking car camera built into the rear view mirror. I usually bring my own and suction mount it to the windscreen but this saves me the bother.

  152. Steve trickler

    On the BOM. 21.1 deg C and very comfortable in my neck of the woods, mh.



  153. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Victoria’s County Court has allowed a camera crew to film chief judge Peter Kidd deliver the sentence, from 10am, so it can be broadcast live on television, radio and news websites. The crew cannot film Pell nor anyone else in the room.

    Enjoy your time as a reality star, on T.V., Chief Judge Kidd. I hope the appeal hands you your sorry ar$e on a silver platter.

  154. None

    Arbeit macht frei =Gulag’s “Labor in the USSR is a matter of honor, glory, courage and heroism.” conclusive proof that there’s no difference between nazism and communism.

  155. Top Ender

    Just managed to post this on Budget’s Facechook page, and a few Tassie tourism pages:

    Now nearly three months and have not heard back from Budget car rentals at Hobart Airport. Your complaint gets handled nationally, which means apparently not at all.

    Appalling rip-off service: we were delayed out of Sydney by an aircraft breakdown – the airline handled it all OK with overnight at a hotel. We advised Budget in Hobart.

    The next day on arrival we found our pre-booked rate had gone through the roof – had been re-booked at the current daily rate. Terrible service considering we had not even had the car for one of the days or hire, so it should have been LESS not MORE, or even THE SAME. Still waiting Budget. Complaint CASE NUMBER: 26675132 – Budget Booking confirmation: 48195384AU6

    If I get somewhere will go on to part 2. They charged us an extra day of hire even though we returned the car early – apparently someone made a mistake. Can’t get them to reverse it but – it gets handled nationally….

  156. None

    I’m still gobsmacked by those sentencing stats. Basically you have more chance of not being jailed if you rape a child then if you flash your dick at them. I bet that’s to let off men who have sex with girls or basically as a cover for man boy love. That us appalling.

  157. I recall somewhere reading that the Pell judge was surprised by the jury verdict. Does anybody know the source of that ?

    If it is not normal practice to allow TV cameras into court then why now ?

    Either way, in my opinion, Pell is the fall guy for the Catholic Church and whilst not religious I hope his religion sustains him through tomorrow.

    A sad day for justice in Australia. The worrying thing is the mob have no concept of the total lack of supporting evidence but have been fed on misleading commentary by the ABC and “experts” like Hadley and Atkins who think a 4 Corners episode constitutes evidence.

  158. None

    Brett I remember reading somewhere that Kidd was surprised too but I just can’t find it again.

  159. Mark A

    MatrixTransform
    #2956102, posted on March 11, 2019 at 10:52 pm

    c3RyYW5nZSBwYWxjZQ==

    Matrix, that password is no good.
    Or was it a windows serial number?

  160. Infidel Tiger

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT. I see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and simpler is far better. Split second decisions are….
    10:00 PM · Mar 12, 2019 · Twitter for iPhone

    He’s right you know.

    It’s why I will always reject the premise of self driving automobiles.

  161. Cpt Seahawks

    Hey None, what is the indecent exposure jail term usually? I assume it is less than 10 year max.
    Asking for a friend.

  162. Cpt Seahawks

    UK parliament has given up on May. Body language is clear. Vote down.

  163. Leigh Lowe

    It’s why I will always reject the premise of self driving automobiles.

    And let’s not forget taxi drivers who are unfamiliar with cutlery, deodorant and Western road rules.

  164. Tintarella di Luna

    Cassie gets a mention in Janet Albrechtsen’s article today:

    When confronting people who do not believe in free speech there are two choices.

    Fight back. Or shut up.

    Last week Alan Beasley fought back. This ordinary bloke is as mad as hell and he is not going to take it any more. He saw another company that advertises on Sky News succumb to intimidation.

    Beasley stepped up because the choices people like him make determine the health and ultimate survival of our democracy.

    Speaking to The Australian, the Sydney businessman, who grew up in country NSW, recalled the protagonist in the 1976 movie Network. Television host Howard Beale stares down the camera and tells his audience to fight the ­hypocrisies of their time.

    “I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it and stick your head out and yell ‘I’m as mad as hell and I’m not going to take it any more’,” roars the TV host. And millions did.

    Beasley stuck his head up last week. He wrote to the NIB board, disgusted that the health insurer pulled its adverts from Andrew Bolt’s program on Sky after Bolt raised questions about the verdict against George Pell.

    As an NIB member through Qantas’s health insurance arm Qantas Assure, Beasley denounced NIB for giving into “bullies and intimidation”, entering into a “PC debate”, putting “activists before customers” and “playing politics” instead of focusing on its business.

    Beasley asked NIB to admit error and return its advertising to the Bolt show. If not, the Sydney businessman promised NIB he would lobby Qantas to end its association with NIB. He ended his March 6 email to the board with this: “I regard NIB corporate behaviour as gutless.”

    Explaining why he took action last week, Beasley tells The Australian: “We don’t as a community stand up for the right thing. If we walk past intimidation and corporate cowardice we are endorsing that behaviour.”

    He says ordinary people like him, the silent majority, need to understand they can be part of something bigger: “If more people like me know there are other people standing up against companies who cave in, other people will speak up too.”

    Beasley is stunned by NIB’s arrogance: “They can’t possibly know what the majority of their customers think about free speech or this particular issue about Pell.”

    In any case: “What has that got to do with providing good value, efficient health insurance?”

    A woman called Cassie kicked off this glorious fightback the day before Beasley’s email.

    She emailed me about NIB’s pusillanimous decision, along with a cracker of a letter she sent to NIB. Sleeping Giants are midgets from the far Left political spectrum who want views different to theirs shut down, she told NIB

    “A word of warning. If I hear NIB has succumbed to bullying by Sleeping Giants and pulls its advertising from Sky, I will move to another health fund. I can be an activist too,” she wrote to NIB.

    NIB’s response was craven. Thank you, blah blah, for your concerns. NIB confirmed that Bolt’s views do not reflect those of NIB or many of its members and that the company has decided not to appear in future shows, blah blah blah.

    NIB’s retreat from the single most important piece of intellectual machinery that fuels a healthy democracy led Cassie to register her disgust again.

    She told NIB she would switch funds and encourage family and friends to do likewise.

    “Activism works both ways,” she wrote.

    Other Sky viewers have decided to be activists for free speech, abandoning NIB and sticking it to other corporate cowards. On Thursday Michael Fry wrote to Scenic Luxury Cruises, a company he and his wife travelled with last year.

    He copied me into that letter, which rebukes Scenic Luxury Cruises for succumbing to “commercial terrorism”.

    Fry lays out the facts about the small band of anonymous activists, facts Scenic should have checked for itself.

    Andrew Priest, an Edith Cowan University academic, was responsible for 43 per cent of the tweets that formed part of the Sleeping Midgets’ campaign to bully Sky advertisers between January 1 and February 21 this year. Fry admonishes the company for choosing anonymous activists who “would never be customers of Scenic” over a customer base of frequent and well-off travellers like him and his wife.

    “We choose to never be customers of Scenic again,” he told Scenic.

    The fightback is under way. More and more people understand what is at stake. These anti-intellectual pygmies can’t win open and robust debates so they try to shut down those who challenge their views.

    The Sky business model, a news and opinion channel, is their No 1 target in Australia. If they succeed, there will be less honest and open debate in this country.

    This way the views of the yapping activists prevail. It is also the road to totalitarianism.

    The Sleeping Midgets routinely, as in every week, almost every day, tweet a list of companies that advertise on Sky News programs.

    They bully companies into submission, companies either too weak to stand up to them or too lazy to look past a Twitter handle and determine who is behind this anonymous group.

    When Sky News drew on experts at BrandWatch to break down the social media activities and piddling numbers behind Sleeping Midgets, the midgets piled on the data firm too.

    This group has an app that asks you for your real name and phone number, then targets Sky’s advertisers with preset complaints at the push of a button.

    It beggars belief that CEOs and directors who profit from our democracy are too weak to ignore an anonymous Twitter handle that despises free speech.

    Here is a list of some of those corporate chickens.

    On February 27, Hotondo Homes caved in to a Sleeping Midgets activist who listed their company as an advertiser on Bolt’s show the day after Bolt raised doubts about Pell’s conviction.

    “We have confirmation our ads will not run — paid or unpaid — during these types of programs,” the company tweeted back.

    Poolwerx pulled its advertising dollars from Bolt’s show as well, bowing and tweeting its capitulation to Sleeping Midgets a day later on February 28.

    Hyundai succumbed the same day, when midget activists tweeted to Hyundai about their ads on the Bolt report.

    Remember these corporate cowards. Look out too for other companies that pull their advertisements from Sky. The ones that disappear, let them know what you think. They are destroying this country’s heritage of free speech in favour of a small group of activists who don’t want you to hear views that differ from theirs.

    Look out for the companies that do believe in freedom of expression, open debate and different views. By advertising on Sky, these companies support a news and opinion channel that drives healthy debate. Your purchasing power translates directly into support for free speech.

    One by one we can be activists too, by pulling money from firms that do not support basic tenets of Australian democracy and directing our purchasing to those decent companies that do. When it comes to corporate social responsibility, there is nothing more responsible than supporting the values that allow democracy to thrive.

  165. Tom

    Liars antichrist gets his 15 minutes of fame:

    People across the world will watch on Wednesday as George Pell is sentenced following his conviction for attacks on two choirboys in the 1990s, in all probability becoming the world’s most senior Catholic official formally jailed for child sexual abuse.

    Victoria’s County Court has allowed a camera crew to film chief judge Peter Kidd deliver the sentence, from 10am, so it can be broadcast live on television, radio and news websites. The crew cannot film Pell nor anyone else in the room.

  166. MatrixTransform

    Mark A – #2956793, posted on March 13, 2019 at 1:34 am

    well that …
    d2FzIGp1c3QgbWUgYmVpbmcgc2lsbHkuIApJIHRob3VnaHQgdGhlIHdob2xlIHBsYWNlIGhhZCBnb25lIGRlYWQKRGlkbid0IHJlYWxpc2UgdGhlcmUgd2FzIGEgbmV3IGZyZWQ=

    explains it all really

    base64

  167. Tel

    The judiciary need to remember they work for us.

    They work for whoever has the power to sack them.

  168. bespoke

    I see this every day.

  169. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bill Shorten’s hit on ‘fat cat’ employers over Labor wages plan

    Exclusive
    Ben Packham
    Political Reporter
    Greg Brown
    Journalist
    @gregbrown_TheOz
    12:00AM March 13, 2019
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    Bill Shorten has launched a fresh assault in his war on business, branding employers as “fat cats” for criticising Labor’s wages policy and threatening to impose once-in-a-generation changes that would force the industrial umpire to deliver bigger pay rises to 2.3 million workers.

    Arguing that the principles behind setting the minimum wage had not changed since the advent of the internet, the Opposition Leader said Labor was considering industrial relations law reforms that would require the Fair Work Commission to give greater weight to the needs of the low paid when making its annual decision.

    The nation’s three biggest employer organisations — AiGroup, the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, and the Business Council of Australia — blasted Mr Shorten’s plan, warning that Labor would risk one person’s job for another’s pay rise.

    Mr Shorten, who has pledged to restore lost penalty rates and waged a class-war political campaign over inequality and the ­Coalition’s big business tax cuts, yesterday rejected suggestions that introducing a living wage, ­defined by unions as 60 per cent of the median wage, would lead to higher unemployment.

    “I love this argument put aside by the bosses of Australia, the fat cats, the top end of town,” Mr Shorten said. “They say if we pay the poorest workers in Australia a bit more, that’s out of control. But how is it that the executives are happy to take more and more in corporate profits? This is the problem of Australia in 2019. The benefits of hard work are not equally spread.”

    As unions and employer groups finalised their claims for this year’s minimum wage review, Mr Shorten warned employers that Labor was looking at changing the legislated guidelines that the Fair Work Commission must consider in making its annual ruling. “The Fair Work Commission of course is bound by the act, but the act and the guidelines are not set in concrete,” Mr Shorten said.

    From the Oz. Bill Shorten and “the politics of envy.” God help Australia.

  170. Knuckle Dragger

    Dammit. Still dark out.

    Two days till the Ides of March, and I have a list of people that need stabbing.

  171. Knuckle Dragger

    It would appear that Theresa May’s Brexit withdrawal proposal for the second time.

    I am largely ignorant of minutiae surrounding the EU, and am yet curious:

    Who is this Jean-Claude Juncker bloke, how did he get to be president of the EU and what experience does he have in running anything, let alone a grab bag of ethnically and culturally different countries, some of whom loathe each other?

    If the answer to the last is ‘nothing’, then I want a crack at it. I’ll show these Eurotrash how to run a continent.

  172. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Proposal HAS FAILED for a second time’.

    Need more smokes and coffee. Mainly smokes.

  173. “Activism works both ways,” she wrote.

    Sure does.
    How about a media campaign targeting employers who rip off their workers?
    It’s not as if it’s uncommon.
    It would be easy to set up.
    1. Identify those employers who do so. The ABC has been successful at this.
    2. Make sure that all media (social and otherwise) gets hold of it.
    3. Institute a boycott using all and every means. (You could provide a rating, encouraging patronage of good businesses who pay reasonable rates).

    It could be managed by half a dozen retirees with time on their hands.
    Getup would probably be interested.
    It’s way overdue in industries such as retail and hospitality who employ lots of students.

  174. I’ll show these Eurotrash how to run a continent.

    You could probably also show Boeing how to run a business making safe airliners.
    Airbus is……..

  175. Notafan

    The message is every one who supports Cardinal Pell must be published.

    These are the same rabble who killed thousands as witches.

    Numbers doesn’t care about fundamental rights, or corporate works of mercy.

  176. Eyrie

    What business does anyone have getting between two people making a deal?
    One offers labour in exchange for money the other money in exchange for labour and if the deal is done both can live with it.

  177. Top Ender

    Funny! Get into Budget Car Hire on social media and they get back to you within hours.

    Send them a nice formal complaint via email and you go into the forgettery.

  178. Knuckle Dragger

    Bob.

    You’re a Sleeping Giant, aren’t you? You should know by now that it’s ok to be differently abled.

    Just put the crayon down. I’ll watch you in my shaving mirror while you clean the rest off your teeth.

    Oh, is ‘reasonable rate’ defined by the normal people scale or the Venezuelan one?

  179. Notafan

    I hope, for the sake of consistency, the decision of the appeal court is televised.

    Kidd will ramp it up talking about the horrid nature of the crimes etc.

    Doing his best to kill Cardinal Pell.

  180. Notafan

    Numbers is definitely the sort of person who would be part of the get Pell mob.

  181. What business does anyone have getting between two people making a deal?

    If one person is using corporate power to rip off another, it’s everyone’s business. Recall the banking RC, do you?

  182. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘show Boeing how to run a business making safe airliners’

    What? And be a capitalist running dog lickspittle whipping boy something something Rothschilds and the Illuminati?

    Yes please.

  183. bespoke

    If you weren’t so blinded by out outdated stereo types 1735099, you would see some common cause hear.

  184. Numbers, you dick, the article you link to is more than a year old.

    But this one is astonishingly current – https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/12/19/22/ethiopian-airlines-plane-crash-boeing-737-max-suspended-australia

  185. Mother Lode

    Basically you have more chance of not being jailed if you rape a child then if you flash your dick at them.

    Perhaps the incidence of jail time being alloted reflects the personal lives of the judges – who might feel a kinship with penetrator perpetrators, but shake their heads at the thought of someone who stops at just exposing themselves.

  186. If you weren’t so blinded by out outdated stereo types (sic) 1735099, you would see some common cause hear (sic).

    It’s stereotype.

    I believe somehow you’re confusing listening to sounds on a stereo (hear?) with the use of cliché.
    Or maybe you should just go back to bed.

  187. Eyrie

    As for safe airliners, Airbus cockpit philosophy and flight control system is scary.
    In an Airbus the FCS will not let you fly the aircraft outside the envelope, so if you are trying to avoid a mid air or a hillside, too bad. Boeing will let you do this even if it means risking permanently bending the airplane.
    Boeing still uses traditional type control columns which move together. Airbus uses computer game side sticks which move independently can can lead to conflicting inputs. AF 447 showed the limitations of that and relying on the autotrim. Those people died because crews were not told to use the manual trim. It is a big wheel right next to the seat. They also did not understand how the control system worked. By holding the stick back the First Officer caused the autotrim to move the leading edge of the horizontal stabiliser down. When he tried full forward stick it was for not long enough for the autotrim to operate and with full leading edge down on the stabiliser the actual elevators don’t have enough control power to push the nose down. A quick turn of the trim wheel and everybody would have lived.
    Aviation is like that. You can make lots of mistakes, most of which don’t have consequences but now and again a small error will kill you.

  188. Mother Lode

    Murray and Steve Nixon (One Nation Qld candidate) pooh-poohed them (mens-only clubs).

    WTF?

    What is the problem? A club is just a form of voluntary association. Anybody can have one. Women do. (They have more than men!)

    What can have been going through Murray’s and Nixon’s heads? The fact they wouldn’t join one? So? I have no desire to join a stamp collecting club. Or a National Press Club.

    Or is it just that they have internalised the vacuous bromide repeated time and again by angry women that think Mens’ clubs are about privilege that must be taken away, while Womens’ clubs are, what, safe spaces?

    Maybe there are just some things guys like to do with other guys. Maybe not. Point is that is their business if they are not drawing on the public purse.

    Paul Murray is clearly planning on becoming one of those men who look like old lesbians. He already thinks like one.

  189. bespoke

    1735099 Just cant work out why he has received a hostile reception wherever he has gone and I’m the dumb one in his mind.

  190. stackja

    Darwin council determines controversial slogan “C U in the NT” is offensive
    WILL ZWAR, NT News
    March 12, 2019 8:45pm
    Subscriber only

    MERCHANDISE with the controversial slogan “C U in the NT” could be banned from local markets after Darwin council tonight voted it an offensive slogan.

    Darwin council does not have power to remove the material but will enforce by-laws which prohibit offensive materials from being sold, as determined by council and the market associations.

    Alderman Robin Knox said it was clear a number of people took offence to the slogan and recent debate showed it was causing issues.

    “The complaints are about this merchandise that have been on display near the playgrounds … children are saying ‘what does this mean’ and it’s not something parents want to have to explain.” she said. “In common usage this word is not a joke, it is used very negatively and as a slur against women.”

  191. Notafan

    What are the statistics?

    I was under the impression that

    Catholic education seemed to have provided many with the opportunity to go on to tertiary study, low fee schools that did better than the high schools of the day.

    Very few Catholics of my parents generation could have afforded private school fees.

  192. OldOzzie

    Thanks Tom,

    so many good ones today, but Chip Bok sums up Australia of the Future under Labor/Greens/Liberals

  193. Eyrie

    That’s CASA virtue signalling, Numbers. No Australian airlines are currently flying max 8’s. Only Fiji and Singapore were flying them into Australia and Singapore grounded theirs.
    If Qantas and Virgin domestic fleets were largely Max 8, I doubt they’d be grounded here.
    I have reluctantly concluded that CASA, like much of the Federal bureacracy, is actually a criminal enterprise.

  194. Mother Lode

    What is the sequence of courts that the Cardinal’s lawyers must go through to get to a appellate court outside of Victoria?

    Do they have to work their way up to the Supreme Court before going to the High Court? Or is there a short cut?

  195. calli

    The screechers have started.

    One, named Michael, wants ten years non parole for “this monster”.

    They want him dead.

  196. Notafan

    Court of appeal is a division of supreme Court. I think the next bump is high court.

    I was reading that 1994 reasonable test case and I’m sure it bumped from NSW court of appeal to the high court too

  197. Notafan

    I am not watching or listing to anything today.

    I’ll be praying for Cardinal Pell.

    It is Lent and he is surely being given the opportunity to be Christ-like.

  198. Top Ender

    But, hey man, aren’t all all of these”colleges” places of white make privilege we’d not want our kiddies to go to anyway? Apparently not:

    Federal prosecutors charged dozens of wealthy parents, including prominent figures in law and business and two Hollywood actresses, with bribing college coaches and testing administrators to get students admitted to elite colleges under false pretences.

    Actresses Felicity Huffman of Desperate Housewives and Lori Loughlin from Full House, were among those charged, accused in the alleged scheme with other parents of paying a private college-counselling service at least $US25 million.

    Prosecutors said the operation involved paying admissions-test administrators to help the students raise their test scores, by either having someone else take the test, or correcting their answers before they were submitted. Prosecutors also said some of the people conspired to bribe varsity coaches and administrators at elite campuses to admit their children as recruited athletes.

    Georgetown University, Yale University, Stanford University and University of California Los Angeles were among the targeted colleges.

    Oz link

  199. calli

    The parallels are lost on the baying crowd.

    It has been ever thus.

    In five years’ time, they’ll look back and wonder how it ever came to this.

  200. Mater

    Agreed Calli.
    It doesn’t bode well.

  201. Eyrie

    About the only thing I’d want to know about the Max 8 MCAS is whether it uses both angle of attack vanes for input and what the logic is in the event they disagree. Another method of measuring angle of attack indirectly is “g” and Indicated Air Speed. I hope there is some comparison in the logic.
    I can see what the Boeing engineers were trying to do – the guy flying has the control column pulled too far back and is approaching stall. The stab trims leading edge up which prevents further AoA increase even though the elevators are still held up by the pilot.
    Alternatives in the past have been to use a stick pusher under those circumstances. Lots of aircraft had these.
    Alternatively because of the pitch up effect at high AoA caused by the larger engine nacelles, Boeing could have made the horizontal stabiliser larger in area. That however is a major change and makes it heavier and higher drag and you would not want to do that.

  202. 1735099

    CASA is actually a criminal enterprise

    And what would you call an “enterprise” that makes and sells machines that kill hundreds at a time?

  203. Woolfe

    Yesterday ( I think) I did Dallas Sydney Perth and am at airport now off to provide tax dollars to the government shredder. Onward and upward!

  204. bespoke

    And what would you call an “enterprise” that makes and sells machines that kill hundreds at a time?

    Socialism.

  205. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oh to be a fly on the wall…or maybe not.

    Michael Avenatti Drops Stormy Daniels as Client

    Foxy lady puts flesh on the bones of Oscar Wilde’s famous phrase: “the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable”.

  206. Mother Lode

    Bill Shorten has launched a fresh assault in his war on business, branding employers as “fat cats”

    After years of lying on their backs begging progressives to rub their tummies because they have so energetically complied with every freshly-minted left-wing piety you can bet businesses will be shocked, SHOCKED I TELLS YA, by this.

    I do feel that, to a large extent, entrepreneurship has been marginalised in Australia and larger businesses are run instead by managers – who aim to manage every imposition on the basis of short term consequence and lack the perspicacity, the conviction and the will to fight.

  207. Eyrie

    OK we’ll go back to living in caves, then.
    Nobody is killing people deliberately here, Numbers. The Universe and the Laws of physics don’t appear to have been made for our particular comfort and us poor humans do the best we can to circumvent them. Sometimes we make mistakes or encounter unforeseen circumstances.
    Your favourite Eurotrash vanity enterprise, Airbus, has caused many deaths also as has almost anything humans do and most of the time it is in no way deliberate. Living in this universe is DANGEROUS, as much as you leftists would like to smother everyone in cotton wool to make people “safe”.

  208. About the only thing I’d want to know about the Max 8 MCAS is whether it uses both angle of attack vanes for input and what the logic is in the event they disagree.

    Surely if you’re going to install automated controls onto an aircraft, you’d have the common sense to let the professional crew know what they are and how they work, just in case they malfunction.

  209. Snoopy

    Numbers, the 7Eleven problem could be solved if the business migration visa was scrapped. No more rip-off Chinese and Indian business owners.

  210. Mother Lode

    Bob.

    You’re a Sleeping Giant, aren’t you?

    ‘Festering pustule’ doesn’t have quite the same ring, huh?

    Isn’t there a bedding retailer called ‘Sleeping Giant’?

  211. 1735099

    It is lent

    To whom, and for how long?

  212. stackja

    Milo Yiannopoulos was on 2GB with AJ. Waiting for podcast to appear.

  213. 1735099

    No more rip off Chinese and Indian business owners.

    The business was owned in Oz by the Withers family at the time of the ripoffs.
    They are neither Indian nor Chinese.

  214. stackja

    Mother Lode
    #2956869, posted on March 13, 2019 at 8:31 am

    As I remember Clyde Cameron first used the term ‘fat cat’ to refer to non-compliant public servants.

  215. Snoopy

    I can see what the Boeing engineers were trying to do – the guy flying has the control column pulled too far back and is approaching stall. The stab trims leading edge up which prevents further AoA increase even though the elevators are still held up by the pilot.

    Alternatives in the past have been to use a stick pusher under those circumstances.

    So it’s more than a software problem?

  216. Snoopy

    The business was owned in Oz by the Withers family at the time of the ripoffs.
    They are neither Indian nor Chinese.

    The ripping-off was done by the franchisees. They chose to do that. Because greed. Because culture.

  217. Snoopy

    I can see what the Boeing engineers were trying to do – the guy flying has the control column pulled too far back and is approaching stall. The stab trims leading edge up which prevents further AoA increase even though the elevators are still held up by the pilot.

    Alternatives in the past have been to use a stick pusher under those circumstances.

    So it’s more than a software problem?

  218. Eyrie

    max 8 MCAS:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremybogaisky/2019/03/11/the-boeing-737-max-crashes-is-there-a-problem-with-the-plane-or-the-pilots/#5290ff3a584a
    and here
    https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-safety/what-is-the-boeing-737-max-maneuvering-characteristics-augmentation-system-mcas-jt610/
    Seems an inadvertant or spurious activation of MCAS has the same sysmptoms as runaway trim, something which pilots are familiar with and the same corrective action deactivates the MCAS also.
    If there is a problem it is likely subtle and will take some digging to find.
    Decades ago there was a problem with earlier 737 uncommanded rudder hard over application. It took a lot of investigation to find that. Lauda Air lost a 767 because of uncommanded thrust reverser activation, something that wasn’t meant to be possible. In both cases airplane rolls upside down. Recovery is somewhat difficult and may destroy the aircraft due overstress.

  219. Mother Lode

    MERCHANDISE with the controversial slogan “C U in the NT” could be banned from local markets after Darwin council tonight voted it an offensive slogan.

    Put the word ‘White’ in front and it will be permitted as a traditional expression going back 12 million years – when Aborigines built great glass palaces in the sky, had no words for ‘war’ or ‘disease’ or ‘substance abuse’, and when the land was lush, green and bountiful under their pastoral care.

  220. Old School Conservative

    1735099
    #2956874, posted on March 13, 2019 at 8:40 am
    It is lent

    To whom, and for how long?

    You really were around children for too long.
    They influenced you, not you teaching them.

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