Monday Forum: March 11, 2019

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  1. bespoke

    But standing up for what you believe in, being unpopular, going against the tide of zombieism is good for you. It builds character.

    calli you’ve always had the most clear and consistent opinion on free speech hear.

  2. Cassie of Sydney

    “Pell was warned during the commission’s hearings he could “be seen as culpable” for the abuse of hundreds of children by his former housemate Gerald Ridsdale, if the commission found he had known and done nothing.”

    This is in the Telegraph this morning……interesting. Okay then, what about asking BongJourno why he also isn’t “seen as culpable” for the abuse of hundreds of children by his former housemate? What did he know and why didn’t he do anything about Ridsdale? He shared a house with him. So in Australia in 2019, we are now at the point where you will be “seen as culpable” even if you knew an individual who committed pedophilia because the assumption is that you must have known something

    Also, will individual NSW Labor party politicians and hacks “be seen as culpable” in regards to Milton Orkopoulos?

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    Well that’s interesting. AOC’s chief of staff is an actual Nazi.

    Meet Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Rasputin

    [Saikat Chakrabarti] has been seen on video wearing a T-shirt with the image of Subhas Chandra Bose, an Indian anti-colonial nationalist. During World War II, Bose tried to overthrow British colonial rule of India with the help of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. Bose was personally helped by Hitler who he met with before going to the Dutch East Indies on a Nazi submarine and setting up an Indian composed army to support Imperial Japan. He proclaimed his ideology as a synthesis between Nazism and Communism.

    I had a look at the video and then tracked the photo on Chakrabarti’s t-shirt. Yep, it’s Bose, and not just any picture but one of him in INA uniform. (Bose wiki here.)

    This is an excellent example for our lefty friends who weirdly think the Nazis were of the right – yet here is a far-left activist with a Nazi on his t-shirt. It all is quite explicable when you simply take the national socialists’ own statement at face value that they are indeed socialists – just different from the communists.

  4. Baldrick

    Buyers remorse …

    Adam Harvey ✔ @adharves
    EXCLUSIVE. Australian IS bride Zehra Duman, not happy about her life in a refugee camp. “You’re worse than an animal here. At the end of the day we’re human. We have rights. Human rights.”
    Duman says her six month old daughter is sick and needs hospitalisation. She wants to bring her two young children back to Australia.

  5. US President Donald Trump issued an executive order on Wednesday (Thursday Australia time) to ground the Boeing 737 MAX 8 following the latest deadly crash, as reports surfaced of American pilots who expressed concerns about the plane late last year.

    Remember the discussion yesterday about the ungrateful third world countries misusing Boeing’s wonderful first world technology? From yesterday –

    Boeing’s mistake is selling its aeroplanes to Third World airlines employing Third World trash as pilots — especially the fast-growing ones like Lionair of Indonesia and Ethiopian, both of which have crashed 737 MAX 8s.

    Now the God Emperor Himself has stepped in.

    What’s the old saying?

    If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going…….

  6. Nob

    The Max-8’s safety record is a lot worse than Ethiopian’s.

  7. bespoke

    What’s the old saying?
    If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going…….

    Only said by you, but you’ve likely flown on a Boeing. Other people!

  8. egg_

    What’s the old saying?

    1. Human factors
    2. Weather
    3. Machine failure

    In order of likelihood.
    The planes fly themselves, it takes piloting/diagnostics skills when things go wrong.

    /Real world

    Let’s await the outcome to bash the site’s #2 Wrongologist/trauma troll

  9. Cassie of Sydney

    “Australian IS bride Zehra Duman, not happy about her life in a refugee camp. “You’re worse than an animal here. At the end of the day we’re human. We have rights. Human rights.””

    Wonder if she ever cared about the “human rights” of the Yazidi and Christian sex slave girls?

    Wonder if she ever cared about the “human rights” of the butchered Yazidi and Christian men and boys?

    Yes, at the beginning of the day those Yazidis and Christians were human. They had rights. Human rights. However as we know the filthy, putrid ideology that Ms Duman follows doesn’t believe in human rights…it only believes in “Sharia” where sex slaves and butchered “infidels” are quite the norm….sanctioned and celebrated.

    Pity that Ms Duman wasn’t left for the Russians and Assad’s army to deal with.

  10. Elle

    Pity that Ms Duman wasn’t left for the Russians and Assad’s army to deal with.

    Just heard her on the radio. She can fuck right off with her human rights whinge. Leaving Australia to marry ISIS filth and encouraging other women to follow suit? Karma’s a bitch.

  11. bespoke

    1735099
    #2957714, posted on March 14, 2019 at 7:32 am
    Remember the discussion yesterday about the ungrateful third world countries misusing Boeing’s wonderful first world technology? From yesterday –

    Some people introduced race but the guts of the discussion was by others who no a lot more about aviation then 1735099 he then shifted to presenting Airbus as if it hasn’t had the similar problems. 1735099 motive is to accuse Boeing of deliberate neglect regardless of facts.

  12. bespoke

    Wonder if she ever cared about the “human rights” of the Yazidi and Christian sex slave girls?
    Wonder if she ever cared about the “human rights” of the butchered Yazidi and Christian men and boys?

    Will she be asked those questions? I doubt it.

  13. calli

    Idiot Seven reporter confuses “verdict” with “sentence” re Pell.

    Where do they get these halfwit talking heads?

    I suspect they have been practising chooks bum mouths in the mirror too. As have the screechers whingeing about the sentence.

    They want him dead. You can see it in their eyes.

  14. 3 possibilities for p3ll
    1. His appeal is a loser (a number of ways this can happen).
    2. Appeal results in no conviction, (not sure but methinks a retrial is possible. help me out here)
    3. He carks it before the appeal process is complete (probably before it starts)

    #3 is the most likely. A conspiracy theorist would say that this was the reason vikpol targeted him.

    We have to let the real world program run to find out what is going to happen.

  15. Mother Lode

    “You’re worse than an animal here.”

    I expect she is worse than an animal wherever she is, so if she is being treated as an animal then she is being treated to well.

    Funny how, after aligning herself with IS she suddenly believes in human rights – for herself anyway.

  16. Gilas

    Where’s Arma?

    Please come back, the night shenanigans aren’t even remotely amusing without you.

  17. Notafan

    A successful appeal on the grounds that a jury could not have found Cardinal Pell guilty on the evidence presented should mean, unless the police could find new evidence ( good luck with that) that no new trial could be held.
    If would effectively be a verdict of not guilty.

  18. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie of Sydney

    #2957711, posted on March 14, 2019 at 7:25 am

    This is in the Telegraph this morning……interesting. Okay then, what about asking BongJourno why he also isn’t “seen as culpable” for the abuse of hundreds of children by his former housemate? What did he know and why didn’t he do anything about Ridsdale? He shared a house with him.

    Let’s ask Bung-journo.
    Here it is. In his own words.

    Bongiorno outlined his memories of Ridsdale, who was moved to Warrnambool by then Ballarat Catholic bishop Ronald Mulkearns in the early 1970s.

    “I know Gerald Ridsdale, I lived in a presbytery with him in Warrnambool,” he said. “I’ve had the victims approach me to appear for them in court cases. 

    “Let me tell you this Fran (Kelly), I had no idea what he (Ridsdale) was up to. And when people look at me quizzically, I say ‘let me tell you this — there are married men and women now that sleep with their husbands and wives that don’t know their husband or wife is having an affair’.”

    “Let me tell you that Ridsdale never came into the presbytery in Warrnambool and said: ‘guess how many boys I’ve raped today.’ They (paedophiles) hide it, it was certainly hidden from me and when it came out after I left the priesthood, I was shocked and I was ashamed.”

  19. bespoke

    Where’s Arma?

    Got his arse stuck in a hole or having to much fun fossicking in a tip.

  20. calli

    All tyrants accept their own rights as a “given”. The rights of others are purely optional depending on circumstances.

    Ms Jihad can stew.

  21. Notafan

    She knows how to get into Syria so she must know how to get out.

    Even the ABC are less than sympathetic

    she could get her parents to arrange to collect her children

  22. calli

    Where’s the new Open Fred? 🤨

  23. he then shifted to presenting Airbus as if it hasn’t had the similar problems.

    “Shifted to presenting” – interesting choice of words.
    Scroll back.
    Quote me if I wrote “hasn’t had similar problems”. What I wrote is that Airbus makes safe airliners.
    So does Boeing, with exceptions. We don’t know the precise cause of the tragedies yet, but the Yanks should have grounded immediately given the pattern.

    Two things are clear from the sequence of events and the commentary here.

    1. The Yanks (as usual) believe they know better than everybody else.
    2. This site is used by individuals who will use bigotry and stereotyping at every opportunity, even when it involves human tragedy.

  24. Notafan

    Child infant mortality rates seem to have been horrendous in the Islamic state.

    No-one seems to have breast fed either.

    Great decision to go to a war and make babies.

  25. Dr Faustus

    What’s the old saying?
    If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going…….

    Something not like that.

  26. Arky

    Where’s Arma?

    ..
    Dead.

  27. Notafan

    Says the man that stereotypes ‘yanks’ and British and French.

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie of Sydney

    #2957711, posted on March 14, 2019 at 7:25 am

    This is in the Telegraph this morning……interesting. Okay then, what about asking BongJourno why he also isn’t “seen as culpable” for the abuse of hundreds of children by his former housemate? What did he know and why didn’t he do anything about Ridsdale? He shared a house with him.

    Let’s ask Bung-journo.
    Here it is. In his own words … Oh, and note who actually shifted Ridsdale to Warrnambool. Not George.

    Bongiorno outlined his memories of Ridsdale, who was moved to Warrnambool by then Ballarat Catholic bishop Ronald Mulkearns in the early 1970s.

    “I know Gerald Ridsdale, I lived in a presbytery with him in Warrnambool,” he said. “I’ve had the victims approach me to appear for them in court cases. 

    “Let me tell you this Fran (Kelly), I had no idea what he (Ridsdale) was up to. And when people look at me quizzically, I say ‘let me tell you this — there are married men and women now that sleep with their husbands and wives that don’t know their husband or wife is having an affair’.”

    “Let me tell you that Ridsdale never came into the presbytery in Warrnambool and said: ‘guess how many boys I’ve raped today.’ They (“peter-files”) hide it, it was certainly hidden from me and when it came out after I left the priesthood, I was shocked and I was ashamed.”

  29. calli

    Lol, Faustus.

    I’ve used the quip “going like a Boeing” for as long as I can remember.

  30. Old School Conservative

    Comey testified (under oath) that it was a “unanimous” decision on Crooked Hillary. Lisa Page transcripts show he LIED.

    A recent tweet from President Trump.
    As he said, “more to come”. I hope so.

  31. bespoke

    What I wrote is that Airbus makes safe airliners. So does Boeing, with exceptions.

    BS You can try to walk it back but in the end you cant help reveal your true intent.

    What’s the old saying?
    If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going…….

    2. This site is used by individuals who will use bigotry and stereotyping at every opportunity, even when it involves human tragedy.

    That includes you. You never make any effort to deserve the high ground you claim.

  32. Leigh Lowe

    Lol, Faustus.

    I’ve used the quip “going like a Boeing” for as long as I can remember.

    Pronounced “Boing” this week.

  33. Dr Faustus

    No surprises there. Theresa May nudges the Brexit debacle towards the UK Remaining in the EU.

    Next step an extension to the 29 March exit deadline, followed by a further 2 months of stonewalling with the Eurocrats, followed by a new referendum, followed by the UK withdrawing the withdrawal. Followed by a big bill from Brussels to compensate for the economic disruption caused to the French and German economies.

    The original big mistake was giving the stupid voters a say in how their country should be run.
    It’s Government 101 stuff.

  34. struth

    1. The Yanks (as usual) believe they know better than everybody else.
    2. This site is used by individuals who will use bigotry and stereotyping at every opportunity, even when it involves human tragedy.

    Isn”t this just the classic lack of self awareness that creates the hypocrisy of the left?

    You really couldn’t make this shit up.

    The yanks (as usual) believe they know better than everybody else

    , says the bigot who uses bigotry and stereotyping against the “yanks” at every opportunity.

  35. bespoke

    What I wrote is that Airbus makes safe airliners. So does Boeing, with exceptions.

    I see what you did there and it proves my point.

  36. Cassie of Sydney

    ““Let me tell you that Ridsdale never came into the presbytery in Warrnambool and said: ‘guess how many boys I’ve raped today.’ They (“peter-files”) hide it, it was certainly hidden from me and when it came out after I left the priesthood, I was shocked and I was ashamed.””

    You gotta laugh, don’t you. What an excuse….”shocked and ashamed”…you were there BongJourno…YOU ARE ALSO CULPABLE. In fact, let’s make every Catholic priest living in Victoria at the time “be seen as culpable”….even those who have left the priesthood. BONGJOURNO is culpable because he shared a house with Ridsdale….let’s start the witch hunts, let’s start the public hangings..it’s gonna be fun to watch.

    In fact, why shouldn’t every Catholic in Australia be culpable? Because that’s the thing with lynch mobs….where does it end?

  37. struth

    It’s only bigotry if you say something about a group SNIFFY McCOMMOBIGOT isn’t bigoted about.

  38. Notafan

    Another point there LL despite DrNasty’s sneer about my relative not being good looking is that none of the allegations against Cardinal Pell relate to the many years he was the pp of a small parish when opportunities so readily taken by Ridsdale abounded.

  39. Percy Popinjay

    So called public life in this country truly is an unrelenting and unholy assemblage of utterly infuriating idiots.

    On the front page of the Oz’s webshite we’re assailed by the following monstrous beyond parody numpties:

    This preposterous narcissistic Dickensian moron
    Souvlaki Savva rabbitting on about Teats Peanuthead and why he’s as popular as the plague
    Sally butch dyke fascist ignoramus McManus
    This pair of ridiculous wheezing ol’ drunks
    Goose Morristeen
    Moozley Kawaja

    FFS. Stop the planet, I demand to be let off.

  40. min

    Pot kettle black with Stalli stegell on 9 this morning . Her opposition saying horrible things about her and she is campaigning against this behaviour. Remind me what she called Abbott.
    Does she kid herself that there are no trolls that follow her?

  41. Leo G

    What I wrote is that Airbus makes safe airliners.
    So does Boeing, with exceptions. We don’t know the precise cause of the tragedies yet, but the Yanks should have grounded immediately given the pattern.

    So Airbus planes have always been safe, without any exception, and never the subject of any airworthiness directive?

  42. lotocoti

    “You’re worse than an animal here.”

    You were worse than an animal there.
    (Resists illustrative link to JerusalemGirl.)

  43. Bushkid

    Calli
    #2957706, posted on March 14, 2019 at 7:15 am
    You can’t have discussions or arguments with these people.

    Yes you can.

    They just bear little fruit at first. And sometimes you risk losing a friendship. And when you are proved right, don’t expect them to acknowledge it.

    But standing up for what you believe in, being unpopular, going against the tide of zombieism is good for you. It builds character.

    True Calli. We might not be able to influence the ignorant, but they may start to think just a little, or look to more diverse sources of information.

    Mind you, given that even my own dear spouse with all his analytical training and experience seems unable to believe anything but what he hears on the ABC, what hope is there for the vote-herd who just lurve crap like dancing with the stars and married at first sight or any of the other mindless dross they hoover up into their vacuous heads.

  44. calli

    At least the drunks were dressed, Percy.

    Small mercies.

  45. Eyrie

    Mrs Eyrie’s citizenship ceremoaney was yesterday evening. 39 new citizens. 4 anglo-saxons the rest had names that wouldn’t have been out of place in the Mos Eiseley cantina. A good number of mandatory headscarves along with junior jihadis and their friends/rellies in the audience had the mandatory number of badly behaved junior jihadis.
    Wonder how much this is costing us in welfare?
    The dignitaries present are costing us about $2 million a year. The Mayor kept going on about our “freedoms” in Australia but I can’t offhand think what they are anymore.
    Want to do anything in this country? Need a licence, permit along with hefty “bribe” ( actually “fees and charges”) to make it happen to pay the ill gotten wages of the dork issuing it and his bosses.
    Went out to dinner with friends who attended and drank wine.
    Stick a fork in it. Australia’s done.

  46. struth

    There is only one country in the world fighting the insanity caused by the cultural Marxism that put people like SNIFFY Mc COMMO in charge of the dumbing down of generations.

    And that is the one nation that gets him right in the craw.
    As with most lefties.

    THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA with their fearless PRESIDENT, DONALD TUMP (peace be upon him)

    It’s too late here, SNIFFY Mc FUCKHEAD and his ilk have frightened their kiddies like Fharken straight into the arms of socialism , banging on about the weather and changing history.

  47. struth

    But standing up for what you believe in, being unpopular, going against the tide of zombieism is good for you. It builds character.

    You’ve just got to stay off the piss.
    People like SNIFFY Mc C..NTHOOKS can quite easily drive you to drink if you have to deal with them in real life.

  48. Bruce of Newcastle

    No surprises there. Theresa May nudges the Brexit debacle towards the UK Remaining in the EU.

    The amazing thing is the no no-deal Brexit amendment was passed by only 4 votes.
    That says to May that most of her party is fed up with the EU.
    She is in dire danger of destroying her party if she farts about.

  49. calli

    unable to believe anything but what he hears on the ABC

    Take heart. This is a house of cards. The moment one lie is revealed for what it is, and acknowledged as such, the crash will happen.

    CalliTip – resist the urge to say “I told you so”. 🙂

  50. Seco

    Bongiorno’s comments about his life with Ridsdale and his his commentary on Pell does prove that even pricks, liars and frauds can end up in the priesthood.

  51. calli

    Went out to dinner with friends who attended and drank wine.

    Did you get a Permit for that?

  52. Percy Popinjay

    There is no way I’m clicking on that link, calli.

  53. Bruce of Newcastle

    For all the screeching about the Wall and Trump’s emergency declaration there’s this:

    Poll: Nearly Three-Quarters of GOP Voters More Likely to Back Candidate if They Support Trump’s National Emergency

    Nearly three-quarters of Republican voters said they will more likely vote for a candidate if they back President Donald Trump’s national emergency declaration, according to a poll released on Wednesday.

    A Morning Consult/Politico poll released on Wednesday revealed a difficult choice for Republican lawmakers mulling whether to vote to nullify the national emergency on the border: Break with President Trump’s efforts to build the wall and secure the border and alienate the GOP base, or attempt to gain Democrats and Independent votes.

    Seeing that Politico is lefty I’d say that means the Wall and the emergency declaration are even more popular than these numbers are saying.

  54. Eyrie

    Everyone else drank wine at dinner. I had to wait until we got home. Draconian drink drive laws.

  55. Mother Lode

    You’re obviously kidding or being very literal. M0nty can probably tie his shoelaces and wipe his own botty, so isn’t technically an idiot. But close enough.
    And I haven’t mentioned Harken. We have no grounds for thinking he can handle either.

    Judging by his posts I think Farkin’ wipes his arse with his keyboard.

    God knows what he does with shoelaces.

  56. stackja

    If Pell cleared. Plan B?

    Catholic Church may face new revelations involving George Pell’s knowledge of paedophile priests
    Janet Fife-Yeomans, The Daily Telegraph
    March 14, 2019 12:31am
    Subscriber only

    The Catholic Church could face new revelations involving George Pell’s knowledge of the abuse undertaken by the nation’s worst [email protected] priests.

    Federal Attorney-General Christian Porter has confirmed he is in talks with Victorian Police and is considering releasing secret findings from the child sex abuse Royal Commission relating to Pell’s evidence.

    The matters cannot yet be detailed but it is understood they relate to the hearings into Catholic Church authorities in Ballarat, where Pell was appointed assistant priest in January 1973, and Melbourne, where he was appointed an auxiliary bishop in March 1987.

    Pell denied a suggestion from counsel assisting the commission that he had been aware that during the 1970s and early 1980s that the-then bishop of Ballarat, Ronald Mulkearns, was sending Ridsdale for treatment for sexual offending.

  57. bespoke

    Eyrie

    My congratulation to your wife. Its a long over due step I should take.

  58. Old School Conservative

    Draconian drink drive laws

    A sigh for the good ‘ol days when you had to drive because you were too drunk to walk.

  59. struth

    True Calli. We might not be able to influence the ignorant, but they may start to think just a little, or look to more diverse sources of information.

    Mind you, given that even my own dear spouse with all his analytical training and experience seems unable to believe anything but what he hears on the ABC, what hope is there for the vote-herd who just lurve crap like dancing with the stars and married at first sight or any of the other mindless dross they hoover up into their vacuous heads.

    They need to hear you call out their bullshit strongly and forcefully.

    You will be hard pressed to change a leftists mind on anything because the truth doesn’t matter to them.

    That’s not why you do it.
    It’s because they are the loudmouths at social gatherings etc who always bring up something like Trump or Glowball warming and make some sort of sneering comment.

    We all used to, including yours truly, let it slide, for the sake of keeping the peace and to not lower ourselves to that level.

    This lets them believe everyone thinks like them.
    Then they think they can get away with murder.
    Literally.
    Like the 1200 dead from the boats.

    The MSM and lefties generally are actually the noisy minority.
    They need to be reminded of that fact, or like children they keep pushing their insanity to revolution until they are stopped.
    It’s not about the argument, it’s about them knowing they can’t just destroy without consequences.
    And there will be.

    I hate to go on about the convoy again, but simply to say, one of the greatest observations I made is how utterly unprepared the left is for retaliation.
    For a fight.
    I’m not talking about gutless left wing internet activists, but when they get a protest against them it shocks them to the core, they’re stunned.

    And they react very poorly and make things worse for themselves.

    One of the best things about protesting the left is they are shit scared of it.
    Hence Massive police weapons build up.
    As they get closer to a totalitarian state, the fear of resistance is strong in them.

    Speaking forcefully and without fear is what they fear mostly and in doing so, we negate what they are preparing for.
    They force you to silence, take your arms and arm themselves.

    We can’t be silenced in the face of them.
    Changing their minds, well our trolls show us just how futile that is.
    It’s only about feelings…”If leftism is wrong, I don’t wanna be right” should be on their baseball caps.

  60. stackja

    Seco
    #2957696, posted on March 14, 2019 at 6:40 am

    Pell,TA and DT, do polarise people.

  61. Mater

    1735099
    #2957738, posted on March 14, 2019 at 8:23 am

    …Two things are clear from the sequence of events and the commentary here.

    1. The Yanks (as usual) believe they know better than everybody else.
    2. This site is used by individuals who will use bigotry and stereotyping at every opportunity, even when it involves human tragedy.

    Oh, ok.

    1735099
    #1386068, posted on July 18, 2014 at 8:11 am
    So sad.
    My prayers are with kith and kin.
    I’ve flown Malaysian with my family a couple of times and they are a professional outfit.
    The 777 is a very safe aircraft.
    What can be learned?
    1. Civil operators should avoid conflict zones.
    2. Hi-tech weapons should be controlled much more stringently. Given the lunatics who comprise the separatists – easier said than done.
    3. The control of weapons is opposed by many who post here. This incident is at the extreme end of the Glibertarian consequence spectrum. At the other end of it is the issue of our effective weapon control regime. Long may it remain.

  62. dover_beach

    Beware the Catholic church. They burnt Joan at the stake for much the same claim.

    No, they didn’t. An English-financed kangaroo court did. The Church, as I wrote over the weekend, conducted an investigation of her trial immediately following the end of hostilities between the English and French and exonerated her of all the allegations made against her.

  63. C.L.

    The bugmen’s total defiance of the Brexit vote is certainly one of the most revolting things ever to have occurred in a democracy.

  64. Old School Conservative

    The “secret evidence” trumpeted by The Telegraph has nothing to do with Cardinal Pell’s trial and conviction.

    The Catholic Church could face new revelations involving George Pell’s knowledge of the abuse undertaken by the nation’s worst paedophile priests.

    Federal Attorney-General Christian Porter has confirmed he is in talks with Victorian Police and is considering releasing secret findings from the child sex abuse Royal Commission relating to Pell’s evidence.
    I fear the cardinal’s appeal may well be destroyed bu constant drip feeding of political opinions and legal manoeuvring.

  65. Snoopy

    TheirABC’s Adam Harvey has been assiduously working to embarrass the government into repatriating ISIS witches of Australian origin, however tenuous, and their spawn back to Australia.

  66. C.L.

    Jaguar Land Rover recalls 44,000 cars.
    Wow.
    Was the back axle falling off or the breaks failing?
    Steering wheel locking up or engines catching fire?
    No.

    Jaguar Land Rover recalls 44,000 cars including Land Rover Discoveries, Range Rovers and F-Types over carbon dioxide emissions.

    Jaguar Land Rover will recall more than 44,000 cars for repairs after UK regulators found faulty models emitting more carbon dioxide than advertised.

    Ten models for Land Rover and Jaguar brands were emitting more greenhouse gases than certified initially, according to the Vehicle Certification Agency.

    Britain’s largest car maker said they will carry out free repairs on the models.

  67. calli

    It was just a trip down memory lane, Percy.

    Involving white terry towelling.

  68. Take heart. This is a house of cards. The moment one lie is revealed for what it is, and acknowledged as such, the crash will happen.

    Problematic when the lie is defended with all resources.
    e.g. AGW
    We’ve been waiting more than 20 years for that deck of cards to collapse.

  69. Old School Conservative

    I may have been placed in moderation for voicing an opinion which could hurt Sinc and this site.
    My apologies Doomlord.

    I will simply post a verbatim copy/paste from today’s Telegraph.

    The Catholic Church could face new revelations involving George Pell’s knowledge of the abuse undertaken by the nation’s worst paedophile priests.

    Federal Attorney-General Christian Porter has confirmed he is in talks with Victorian Police and is considering releasing secret findings from the child sex abuse Royal Commission relating to Pell’s evidence.

  70. cohenite

    It’s official, Trump will win a second term, stormy says so.

  71. struth

    Glowball warmening and much of the bullshit spewed by the left can continue because they realise they don’t have to fool all the people all the time.
    Because people die.
    They only need to fool the young.
    By the time the young wake up to that………..oops, too late…….you’re irrelevant or dead.

  72. Old School Conservative

    3rd attempt, this time with words changed to avoid moderation:

    The “secret evidence” trumpeted by The Telegraph has nothing to do with Cardinal Pell’s trial and conviction.

    The Catholic Church could face new revelations involving George Pell’s knowledge of the abuse undertaken by the nation’s worst p…..phile priests.

    Federal Attorney-General Christian Porter has confirmed he is in talks with Victorian Police and is considering releasing secret findings from the child sex abuse Royal Commission relating to Pell’s evidence.
    I fear the cardinal’s appeal may well be destroyed by constant drip feeding of political opinions and legal manoeuvring. Certainly his reputation is forever shot to pieces in the minds of those who are called upon to be jurors.

  73. calli

    We’ve been waiting more than 20 years for that deck of cards to collapse.

    I was describing it at the individual rather than societal level.

    Of course the grifters will continue on their lucrative merry way.

  74. Snoopy

    Britain’s largest car maker said they will carry out free repairs on strangling of the models.

  75. calli

    Stormy’s life is written on her face in that photo, cohenite. Chiselled even.

  76. thefrollickingmole

    Everyone in this story should be placed in a sack along with a dog, cock and viper and thrown into the Tiber.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/mar/14/i-cant-help-but-worry-sydney-womans-battle-to-get-out-of-parentsnext

    Lucy Timu, who only gave birth last month, first learned she had been placed on the compulsory pre-employment scheme when her payments were suspended in October. She was five months’ pregnant at the time.

    The Department of Jobs and Small Business promised to update its policies after it was alerted by the Guardian of Timu’s case. But she said that, as of Wednesday, her six-month fight with Centrelink to obtain an exemption from the program remained unresolved.

    “It just makes everything feel so much harder,” said Timu, who has two other children, aged five and 11. “Just seeing those messages come through, it has a physical manifestation. I feel sick and I can’t help but worry and worry.”

    Welfare program has ‘devastating’ impact on single parents, inquiry told
    Read more
    Currently the subject of a Senate inquiry, ParentsNext is a compulsory pre-employment program for about 73,000 people who receive parenting payment. They must have children between the age of six months and five and be classified as “disadvantaged” by Centrelink.
    ….
    Timu said she had also lodged an application for the disability support pension due to complex PTSD and anxiety disorder.

    No mention of the sperm donors for any of the 3 kids, and the program is supposed to help shit parents become better ones.
    The cherry on top being now she will go on the DSP for life and spit out another kid every years for the next ten years
    Check the selection of artwork mummy has as well.

    Were not breeding our best.

  77. others who no a lot more about aviation then 1735099

    I don’t pretend to be an expert, but I reckon I’m as qualified as any lay person to comment on matters aviation.
    I’ve done plenty of flying. Some I’ve forgotten. This I remember –
    1968 – Slingsby glider at Goondiwindi
    1969 – TAA Vickers Viscount (Brisbane – Williamtown – Nasho intake)
    1969 – RAAF UH1H and Navy UH1B, C-130A and C-130E, DHC Caribou, (Training in 7 RAR)
    1970 – RAAF and US Army UH1H (Operational flying – More times than I can count – beat walking); DHC – American Airlines R & R charter – Saigon/Bangkok – Boeing 707; Caribou; C -123; Qantas Boeing 707 10/12/70 (RTA)
    1974 – Lake Buccaneer (GBR trip)
    1977 – TAA Boeing 727
    1978 – Air NZ DC-10 (The actual aircraft that crashed at Mt Erebus – ZK-NZP one year later. I always note the rego numbers),
    1979 – Boeing 727
    1980 – Boeing 747 – (British Airways – UK & return).
    1983 – 1989 – Various Boeing 737s.
    1986 – DC – 3 (“Champagne flight”). My bride got airsick.
    1989 – C-130 E Townsville/Brisbane during pilot’s dispute. Tail number indicated that it was an aircraft I had flown in during Nasho training in 1969.
    1993 – Cessna 180 on charter – Mt Isa, Dajarra, Boulia, Bedourie, Birdsville, Windorah (Researching indigenous communities)
    1993/94 – Beechcraft Super King air – 4 Flights annually attending Townsville board meetings from Mt Isa.
    1994 – 2000 – Various 737s and Airbus 320s – attending national conferences.
    2006 – Singapore Airlines 777 – Brisbane/Singapore. Airbus 320 Singapore/Saigon.
    2007 – Brisbane/KL – Malaysia Airlines 777. KL/Saigon – Airbus 320, Air Vietnam ATR – 72 Saigon/Da Nang. Air Vietnam 737 – 800 Da Nang/Hanoi.
    2008 – 2015 – Numerous flights to Adelaide on Virgin 737 – 800s. Flight to Perth to connect with Indian Pacific – Virgin 737 – 800.
    2010 – Darwin/Brisbane Boeing 767.
    2007 – 2015 – Lear Jet; Piper PA-42 Cheyenne; Beechcraft Super King Air (All charters involving consultancy work at Charleville, Quilpie and Cunnamulla – one flight per school term). The Lear was amazing. We hit an emu on the Quilpie strip in the King Air.
    2018 – Qantas 747 Brisbane/LA/New York. COPA 737 – Washington/Panama City/Havana.
    2019 – Various flights to Newcastle – Airbus 320s and 737s. I usually travel domestic every couple of months, and have discovered that whilst Toowoomba’s new airport is convenient, fares to Sydney, Townsville, Cairns and Melbourne are expensive.
    Air north fly Embraer 170s and I have used these various times direct from Toowoomba to visit friends and rellies in Townsville and Cairns.

    Favourite long haul aircraft – Boeing 747 – 400 (especially if you book row 46 or 58 behind the exits).
    Favourite short haul aircraft – Embraer 170 as configured by Air North.
    Most memorable flight – Tossup between flying out of a dirt strip in the Colo training area in a Caribou in July 1969 in a massive cross wind. (We were last stick out and all flights were cancelled after ours), and Charleville/Roma on a stormy November afternoon in 2010 when we struck hail and wind shear. Pilot was a genius.

  78. thefrollickingmole

    Old School Conservative

    Seems to be coming through ok.

  79. Rossini

    New fred if interested!

  80. Ellen of Tasmania

    Yes you can.

    They just bear little fruit at first. And sometimes you risk losing a friendship. And when you are proved right, don’t expect them to acknowledge it.

    If I could find the relevant Charlotte Mason quote, I would use it because she said it way better than I can, but…

    If we think about the way we have reached our current understanding and knowledge, it has rarely come instantly. The change of mind might seem like a sudden flip or lightbulb moment, but generally speaking, if we think back over the process, we realise that it was indeed a process, over time, with lots of little pieces falling into place.

    We need to remember that when we talk to others and extend the charity that enables them to fit all those pieces into place. Our words may be just one more piece – necessary, but not conclusive to them as yet.

    That said – some people are either too arrogant or too wedded to their ideology to even want to change. Especially today, when the social cost can be enormous.

  81. Top Ender

    Interesting list 1735099.

    My most memorable is NOT the time as a private pilot when I took a Cessna 172 off the ground only to be alerted to a steady banging sound.

    It was the rear port cargo door which I had not checked properly, and which was open slightly and banging in the wind.

    Most memorable is flying in Hercules in Baghdad and hearing the chaff and flare dispensers going off as bad guys targeted us.

  82. None

    Thanks Calli, Bushkid, struts. I believe you have to speak up. If only to counter the narrative, to point out there is another narrative even if to heap greater judgement on them in future. “I didn’t know” will not be an option. Plus it is of comfort to the innocent to know others are in their corner. Pell is not superhuman. He is human like us. At the same time others find courage when they hear you speak up. Sure one may need to pick your fights but you fight. I have seen C.L. on the blogs for years. He is a master wordsmith and a superb analyst, and often has a clear sense of wrong and right. But very cowardly in other respects. I don’t think I would ever see C.L. in the lion’s den. Sorry C.L. but that is my considered opinion.

  83. None

    Why is Christian Porter talking to Victoria Police? And did Victoria Police initiate this? Why now? Why? The RC findings on Pell were never released. I wonder why they are so interested in them now.

  84. None

    Well said Ellen, it is a process.

  85. Mother Lode

    Frollicking,

    The Poena Cullei!

    I agree with the punishment. The sack would hit the water and the woman would be utterly inert except for her mouth which would be issuing in a shrill voice her demand that a social worker come and swim for her.

    Frankly it sounds like life is just to onerous for her, as she limps along damaged, hemmed in on all sides by terrifying spectres of such things as having to travel to a job or get up to change the channel. And all the while popping out spawn like wet beans squeezed between a thumb and forefinger.

    Let her bob along the Tiber until it joins with the Styx. And send her kids to the salt mines to sweat out the memories of their mother.

  86. bespoke

    1735099
    #2957806, posted on March 14, 2019 at 9:41 am
    others who no a lot more about aviation then 1735099
    I don’t pretend to be an expert, but I reckon I’m as qualified as any lay person to comment on matters aviation.

    So what. I didn’t say you cants just that focused on other things.

  87. bespoke

    Oh! and more low energy distraction, Sad. Look I have a list. Pfft!

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