Which side are they on?

Politics used to be so simple. One was either a Labor voter or Coalition voter (and occasionally a voter for a minor party). Candidates and MPs for each party would vigorously defend each other and attack the other side (usually with some sense of humour). Voters were trusted to choose the person they wanted, rather than being presented with Hobson’s Choice.

Not so now. Seats need to be reserved for women, thus denying the voters their choice. Same for other minorities.

And members of these tribes, these groups battle each other for peak victimhood. Even though the candidates for election are the elite of the elite, bathed in privilege whether they are men, women or intersex.

Panel members of the Leading While Female talk – Julie Bishop, Linda Burney, Sarah Hanson-Young and Julia Banks complained of the difficulties in being a politician and their so-called sacrifices and hard life, apparently blind to their privilege compared to most of their constituents. They should look in a mirror – they have it far, far easier than previous generations of politicians.

Yet they think the job should be easier, more accommodating those who wish to act as a part-time representative while receiving full-time pay. If you don’t like the job, don’t run for office. Or let’s make the jobs genuinely part-time (fewer Bills) and pay MPs far less.

Now we are moving to peak idiculousness when the panel members agreed that there should be a cross-party caucus to support female parliamentarians. I’ve never heard something so silly. Why should a female Liberal MP support a female Greens MP? The job of a politician is to win seats, not assist your competitor. A Liberal MP should be going out of their way to campaign against their opponents, not try to assist them remain in office.

The latest example of zeitgeist is a Perth “lifelong Liberal” Louise Stewart who wants to run as a “socially progressive liberal” in Curtin against the Liberal Party’s endorsed candidate, Celia Hammond a “conservative”. Not for Stewart is the need to run for endorsement in the Liberal Party. For a “lifelong Liberal” to campaign as an independent (backed by Get Up no doubt) without even once seeking Liberal Party pre-selection is bizarre.

That so many so-called “Liberal women” are happy to publicly campaign against the Liberal Party (rather than reform it from within) shows how tenuous is their supposed support of the Party. A true Liberal women – conservative or progressive – would work assiduously to defeat Labor and the Greens, not actively try to defeat the Liberal Party. Stewart has as much affinity for the Coalition as does Wayne Swan. She is a ring-in trying to grasp the mantle of a virtuous heroine trying to save the Liberal Party from the evil conservatives. Actually she and Julia Banks to name two belong well in the Greens or Labor Party with their extreme left ideology.

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32 Responses to Which side are they on?

  1. wal1957

    The answer is easy. They are on the wimmens’s side. What they won’t admit is that they should probably be in either the Liebor or Greens party.
    Any party endorsing quotas is proving to the electorate at large how stupid they are. People should be employed based on their abilities, not their gender, race or skin colour. Why is that so hard to understand for some of these clowns?

  2. stackja

    Women in sheep’s clothing.

  3. tombell

    These women are on their own side. Political affiliation is incidental although most drive on the LH side regardless of the badge on the bonnet. Usually, they’ve had a pampered privileged existence (most of the blokes in public life are not a whole lot better it has to be said). They believe having a vagina is the only qualification necessary to succeed. Sadly, in the modern world, they may be correct.

  4. DaveR

    So called “progressive” Liberals need to be called out for what they are – they’re not Liberals. The Turnbull sect that was allowed to grow and spread in the party has now largely packed its bags and left, reappearing as “independents” or “progressives”. What a pity Morrison didnt act earlier to move on some of these non-Liberals when he took control of the parliamentary party. Morrison was supposedly elected as a moderate between the progressives and the conservatives. As Australia heads into the May Federal election, Morrison has still not restated the political principles and values of the Liberal middle ground he is supposed to represent, and has not reformed the left Turnbull policies. Each of these failures is an electoral mistake.

  5. Infidel Tiger

    The latest example of zeitgeist is a Perth “lifelong Liberal” Louise Stewart who wants to run as a “socially progressive liberal” in Curtin against the Liberal Party’s endorsed candidate, Celia Hammond a “conservative”. Not for Stewart is the need to run for endorsement in the Liberal Party. For a “lifelong Liberal” to campaign as an independent (backed by Get Up no doubt) without even once seeking Liberal Party pre-selection is bizarre.

    No one in Curtin has ever heard of the woman.

    I doubt she can exists outside of media spin.

  6. Up The Workers!

    Cast your minds back 44 yearsto September 1975, when Queensland A.L.P. Senator, Bert Milliner died; the then Qld. Premier, Joh Bjelke Petersen, infuriated the A.L.P. when he picked a bloke named Albert Field as ‘his’ A.L.P. replacement for the Senate.

    This Louise Stewart sounds to me very much like the A.L.P./Get-Up’s attempt at vengeance. At the very least, they are picking fifth columnists, traitors and infiltrators to rot the Liberal Party internally and achieve from inside, that which Get-Up and the A.L.P. have not achieved externally.

    Whose interests are being served when Liberals campaign publicly (and without endorsement) against other Liberals?

    Former Prime Quisling, Malcontent Turncoat with his Performing Stick Insect and his Mincing Poodle, was Labor’s own ventriloquist doll and seat-warmer, and the campaign of vilification and abuse against Cardinal George Pell from one perspective, could be seen as Labor “getting even” for the split in 1955 and Bob Santamaria’s crowd – particularly as it is Cardinal George Pell now sitting in a prison cell awaiting sentencing and not Bonking Billy himself.

  7. Up The Workers!

    Rave reviews in yesterday’s budgie-cage liners about the new stage production about to open in downtown Mogadishu-by-the-Yarra, of “Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory”.

    If tickets are hard to get during its limited season, just wait a couple of months until that performance venue down the burrow and under the big flagpole in Canberra hosts the opening of “Billy Bonker and the Horse Manure Factory” for a 3-year season.

    The lead actor is rumoured to be performing “pro-boner”.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    Now we are moving to peak ridiculousness when the panel members agreed that there should be a cross-party caucus to support female parliamentarians.

    There’s the answer to your question Lucius.
    They’re on their own side.
    Not on the side of the deplorable voters who don’t know what’s good for them.
    We must eat cake and like it.

  9. Win

    Dear God,now we have fake politicians .ThevLinos .Two faced ,forked tongue mendacious deceitful ,the shysters and trickster women ,the snake oil saleswomen of democracy 2019.
    This is not we fought for in the 1970’s.

  10. For a “lifelong Liberal” to campaign as an independent (backed by Get Up no doubt) without even once seeking Liberal Party pre-selection is bizarre.

    Not half as bizarre as a political party which wilfully ignores 50% of its constituency.

  11. Chris M

    Yes, to date the great majority of Australian women politicians don’t seem up to the task.

    What to do? Apparently we just need a lot more of them.

  12. One ScoMo doesn’t make a Spring

    What’s the big deal? Their policies are v similar just different shades of green.

  13. JohnL

    That so many so-called “Liberal women”

    Wrong! There are no “Liberal women”, they are not even “women”. They are winging female feminist bitches!!!!

  14. Dr Fred Lenin

    Abolish politics as a career. One term in a lifetime then out,no pensions pay their own super,make the job part time with operformance based salaries . Annual scrutiny review by electors see the rush for the doorswhile if the psyouts are still available . Might get some decent government instead of the swamp aparatchiks .

  15. EvilElvis

    I’m all for women supporting women. Resign from your positions and get cracking on a ‘Party of Ovaries’. You can support each other as much as you like then, although the electorate will soon work out that PoO, stinks.

  16. Wyndham Dix

    When the accounts of history of the 20th and 21st centuries are cast up, these changes to society wrought by women in and out of parliament, in no particular order, will be broadcast in all their ingloriousness:-

    • Abortion on demand, including late-term abortion and the sale of foetal body parts and blood
    • Positive discrimination in their favour
    • Being paid not to work while on maternity leave, while full-time mothers are paid nothing and rely on the support of their husbands as is their right in any decent, civilised society building for the future
    • Propaganda of Safe Schools programs and the like
    • Gender fluidity and dysphoria
    • Take-over of K-12 education and consequent indoctrination of our children
    • Feminisation of defence and police forces, and consequent weakening of society’s ability to resist determined aggressors
    • Family Law Act and the consequent ability to empty the wallets of estranged husbands and deny them access to their children
    • #MeToo movement and the ability to destroy a man’s reputation with a single, uncorroborated word
    • Wanton display of flesh and concomitant abuse of men who ogle that which they unashamedly advertise
    • Insatiable demands for more privilege
    • Et al, ad nauseum

  17. Diogenes

    Not half as bizarre as a political party which wilfully ignores 50% of its constituency.

    Well, that would be the ALP and its proposed tax changes then …

    Forty-eight per cent of the seats in parliament have a median voter age of 50 years or older.

    (from the Open Thread)

  18. Lee

    I would never trust an independent to vote for him or her, unless they were demonstrably right of centre or conservative (like Corey Bernardi).
    Otherwise most likely he or she is a wolf in sheeps’ clothing (not what they claim to be politically) – a left wing stooge for Labor or the Greens.

  19. Kneel

    “Abolish politics as a career. One term in a lifetime then out,…”

    I’m sympathetic to the idea, the problem I see is that this will propel parties to the forefront – to get anything meaningful done requires longer than a single term, and if no-one can stay longer than that, the only thing is the parties…
    Gah!
    Perhaps a better arrangement may be that you can stay as long as the electorate thinks you’re doing a good job, then you’re gone, never to return.
    The rest is fine with me…

  20. Boambee John

    Numbers at 0727

    Not half as bizarre as a political party which wilfully ignores 50% of its constituency.

    But enough of Labor and its active campaign to destroy the industrial working class in Australia, soon to be followed by the destruction of the rural working class.

  21. Rob MW

    Not so now. Seats need to be reserved for women, thus denying the voters their choice. Same for other minorities.

    That is not even the first cab off the rank. The platform(s) given to the constant irrational screeching of the tribal identities clutching their collective pearls, and more than attempting to control the means of production, has given rise to a level of quiescence by policy hawk conservatives that it is now nearly impossible to tell the difference, by order of magnitude, between the societal and economic nut jobs on the left and what would otherwise be a rational, stand your ground elected conservatives.

  22. Roger

    Actually she and Julia Banks to name two belong well in the Greens or Labor Party with their extreme left ideology.

    Along with Tony Abbott, who now backs the Paris Agreement…with 99% of Liberal parliamentarians, it seems.

    With few exceptions, our political class is now acting against Australia’s interests.

  23. cuckoo

    I wonder how St. Julian of Burnside feels, having had to quit the men-only Savage Club as the price of admission to the Green ticket, only to have his colleague Sarah Hanson-Young calling for a wimmen-only club in Federal Parliament.

  24. Dr Faustus

    Along with Tony Abbott, who now backs the Paris Agreement…with 99% of Liberal parliamentarians, it seems.

    Abbott has only ever been a political weather vane. Currently being blown by Zali Steggall – herself a ‘Liberal Woman’ of the GetUp variety.

    Now well beyond being a cheap insult; politician self-interest is by far the best, and perhaps only, reliable driver of Australian political behaviour.

    They are laarfing at us.

  25. Dr Fred Lenin

    Kneel, I propose to reform the parties too donations for political purposes limited to $10per person or organisation , financial contributions taxable at top company rates ,no lobbying which is really bribery ,long jsil terms and draconian fines for contravention . All staff provided by public service ,no paid family or mates . Candidates stand totally on own merit . No person who has served in political post allowed to stand . Any corruption incurs confiscation of all family assets and long terms in hard labour prison .

  26. John H of Pelican Waters

    It bothers me not at all that there are not more women in Parliament. After all, one lawyer or policy advisor wanting to sit in the Reps or the Senate is pretty much like another, regardless of gender (or of political party, come to think of it). However, if we had more science, technology, engineering or maths professionals up on Capital Hill, now that would be something. Perhaps we should have quotas?

  27. Squirrel

    “And members of these tribes, these groups battle each other for peak victimhood. Even though the candidates for election are the elite of the elite, bathed in privilege whether they are men, women or intersex.”

    It’s more than a little bit ironic that many of the people who are fond of talking long and loud about “trickle down economics” are, in practise, firm believers in trickle down social justice.

  28. Dr Fred Lenin

    Can you imagine a Womans Party ? The barren women like giliard and bishop etc ,trying to run the Real women ,Mothers and strugglers ,it would be so dysfunctional it would make turnbulls liberals look like a strict monastic order . Be a good idea for us blokes to keep well away from the bitchfighting that would inevitably happen with these screaming harridans ,talk about Macbeths witches .Shudder Shudder .

  29. Rockdoctor

    On the STEM Professionals getting into Parliament. Can’t remember where I saw it but am sure some here did a breakdown of the backgrounds of the Pollies in Singapore Parliament and compared that to Australia & a couple of other western countries. Take aside the obvious cultural differences between the countries but the comparison was interesting to say the least. The Lawyers vs Scientists/Engineers was inverted compared to our parliamentary ratio…

  30. Robber Baron

    No real man could possibly have sex with any of these “women” without being paid.

  31. Notice how there are a multitude of “Liberal Women” stepping up as independents, but no “Labor Women” or “greens Women”. This is just another electioneering ruse by Labor & GetUp to win an election.

  32. Destroyer D69

    Note to all parties….. PLEASE provide a legally enforceable and binding definition of “Woman” or “Women” in this particular context. The permutations in the wider community are endless.

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