Thursday Forum: March 14, 2019

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  1. Old School Conservative

    And thank you Tom for the ‘toons.

  2. pete m

    $2.5 million for 1.2sq km of land ordered as compensation for native title rights interfered with.

    2.8 million sq km to go = $5.6 trillion bill (check math)

    here:

    link

    Add in legal costs ….

    However, much of this land was never impacted like a town being built, so maybe less drama than thought.

  3. Rossini

    Well hello hello top 10 if I was counting!

  4. Mark M

    Jay Leno Rips Late Night TV For One-Sided, Mean Spirited Politics

    https://lidblog.com/jay-leno-late-night-politics/

    Most important is the cholesterol message Jay is promoting.

  5. Leno is right. The late night TV shows are in permanent anti Trump mode and unwatchable.

  6. Baldrick

    Federal Attorney-General Christian Porter has confirmed he is in talks with Victorian Police and is considering releasing secret findings from the child sex abuse Royal Commission relating to Pell’s evidence.

    The fix is in, just in case the appeal is successful.

  7. EvilElvis

    Top 10? It’s been awhile…

  8. Snoopy

    All is well with the world. Abdul Magpie back on TheirABC Breakfast enjoying an intimate tongue bath.

  9. thefrollickingmole

    More of this please…

    Even though i expect it to be thrown out as green/left free speech & right to bankrupt businesses must stay sacrosanct.

    Aurizon sues environmental activists and seeks $375,000 after protests stop coal trains
    Exclusive: Aurizon, which is in negotiations with Adani, accused of bullying ‘concerned citizens’

    The freight rail operator Aurizon has launched legal action against five environmental activists and is seeking $375,000 in compensation for a series of recent protests that stopped coal trains.

    Aurizon lodged a statement of claim in the Queensland supreme court in January against the group Frontline Action on Coal (Flac) Incorporated, seeking “user-rent” from the organisation as damages for five separate protests in December and January that blocked the rail line.

    The case is due in court on Thursday. Ahead of the hearing Aurizon has sought to also name the individual activists as co-defendants in the case.

    Ben Pennings, speaking on behalf of the five activists, said the action amounted to “unashamed bullying of concerned citizens”.

    “While their peers attend school strikes around the globe, these passionate young people face bankruptcy for their selfless acts of bravery,” Pennings said.

    The rail operator is in legally mandated negotiations with Adani, which is seeking access to the Queensland freight network to link to the planned Carmichael coalmine. Protests targeting Aurizon appear designed to pressure the network operator to block Adani.

    Mr Pennings is another of those curious creatures able to somehow live free of the need for an income, the ATO seems curiously incurious about such people.

  10. Top Ender

    Interesting flying list 1735099.

    My most memorable is NOT the time as a private pilot when I took a Cessna 172 off the ground only to be alerted to a steady banging sound.

    It was the rear port cargo door which I had not checked properly, and which was open slightly and banging in the wind.

    Most memorable is flying in Hercules in Baghdad and hearing the chaff and flare dispensers going off as bad guys targeted us.

  11. min

    Here is a bit it of trivia re Catholic Church . The first Pope John 23 , a Medici Pope during the schism was jailed ,after 5 years in the job on trumped up charges. Sex with 200 prostitutes, simony , plus more taken straight out of a Boccaccio story.
    He is buried in the Baptistery of duomo in Florence in a wall with a Donatello tombstone Inscribed with here lies Baldassare Cossa erstwhile Pope in Latin of course. Anyway he was excommunicated after he was released and the Church then gave us a second John 23 around 500 years later , who is buried in St Peter’s.
    So Pell not the most senior rank jailed.

  12. min

    Re children activists , the last party who propaganderised children was the National Socialist Democratic Workers Party ,the Nazis. It was called the Hitler Youth Movement.

  13. Snoopy

    Now that Trump has grounded Max Boeings, TheirZoe informs that simply everyone was asking why the US hadn’t grounded the planes. She has the answer. A former Boeing executive is part of Trump’s adminstration.

    Orange man bad.

  14. Bruce of Newcastle

    RoP news.

    Mystery infections traced to blood-shedding religious ritual (via Drudge)

    Researchers said Wednesday that they were initially puzzled how 10 British men had become infected with a little-known virus, because the men hadn’t taken risks usually associated with the infection.

    But then investigators learned they had participated in blood-shedding religious rituals — cutting or whipping themselves — in Iraq, Pakistan, India and the United Kingdom.

    The practice of whipping or cutting oneself has been practiced among different religious groups, most notably by Shiite Muslims on the holy day Ashoura. Usually only men do it, and it’s controversial even within religious communities.

    Giving yourself horrible diseases by doing public self-flagellation is one of the more interesting Darwinian activities the human race has come up with.

  15. dover_beach

    Federal Attorney-General Christian Porter has confirmed he is in talks with Victorian Police and is considering releasing secret findings from the child sex abuse Royal Commission relating to Pell’s evidence.

    It is incredible when you realize the extent of the powers aligned against Pell.

  16. Antipostmodernism

    Hello. I’m a newbie here. I have commented in the mainstream media here and there for years but every media outlet has eventually become infected by political correct moderation so that I always end up being effectively no platformed and have to move on. My last safe haven for free speech was The Australian but mid last year they suddenly succumbed to the tyrants and loons too despite presenting themselves as the paper that fights for free speech, enlightenment values etc. I especially detest false allies with two faces. I was having a whinge last night at the OZ about how I can’t viably express myself there anymore or in any of the mainstream media and someone suggested I try my luck here. So I’ll give this thing a whirl some time and see how we go. I am a proud thought criminal and hope to see a few familiar subversives (normal rational people) here.

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    Re children activists , the last party who propaganderised children was the National Socialist Democratic Workers Party ,the Nazis. It was called the Hitler Youth Movement.

    Min – As I linked this morning the chief of staff of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the lady who is pushing the green new deal and the striking climate kiddies, is an actual literal Nazi supporter. I am amazed the guy is so confident and immune to scrutiny.

  18. Muddy

    Yesterday I brought up in passing the case of a handful of years ago when a woman in Cairns KILLED EIGHT CHILDREN, yet the media coverage was nothing, nothing, in comparison to Cardinal Pell’s case.

    Knuckle Dragger and another corrected my initial memory lapse which recalled that four or five children had been killed, but no, EIGHT. I still cannot get over that. EIGHT YOUNG LIVES STOLEN, yet the so-called media, even inhibited by the alleged mental health status of the female killer, barely mentioned this grievous crime beyond the initial reports and minimal coverage of the vigiltainment (h/t C.L.).

    So-called defenders of the public good almost orgasm on TV in front of the nation over the Cardinal’s case, yet the deaths of EIGHT CHILDREN, one of which was not her own, have been brushed aside.

  19. Eyrie

    Look at the Max 8 groundings as a buying opportunity for Boeing shares.
    Keeping an eye on them.
    Now that Mrs Eyrie is an Australian it is less paperwork.

  20. Eyrie

    Australia – great country, piss poor government and far too much of it.

  21. Eyrie

    Any have any idea why the NZ dollar is so strong, given the communist in charge there?

  22. struth

    New Zealand is booming.
    Basically the secret is out and dumb Aussies are too self absorbed to see that NZ is kicking our arse and wouldn’t believe it if you told them.

  23. Muddy

    five environmental activists

    Insurgents. Economic, social and cultural insurgents.
    Let’s call them what they are. They have publicly vowed to shut down part of our economy and further damage what little remains of our energy security. Those are not neutral or benign ‘acts’. They are self-admitted sabotage. These gutless feckers, who otherwise would never take a real risk in their anti-social lives, intend to damage and diminish the quality of life of others in their community, in order that their egos may be sated.
    They are destroyers, saboteurs, civil insurgents.

  24. Eyrie

    struth,
    Give it a few years. The ban on oil and gas exploration and development will hit hard there eventually.

  25. Muddy:
    Environmental Activists in the USSR were considered to be ‘Wreckers’.
    The penalty for their sabotage was the Gulag, or death.
    Under the regime these idiots want to bring in, they would likely to be shot.

  26. Cactus

    NZ doesn’t have a fiscal budget anymore. They are running a “Wellbeing” audit. I don’t have high expectations of that ending well.

  27. Cactus

    Thanks for the Tip on the Netflix F1 doco. Watched 2 episodes last night. It is captivating. I like how the producers have weaved a narrative into each episode but sort of let the story tell itself.

    I used to really like F1, I like what it is about in many respects. Teams, trying to push the envelope on performance, drivers on the edge of safety etc. The mismatches between the teams and the money is a bit of a turnoff.

  28. Notafan

    That first (anti) Pope john 23 had very spurious claims to the chair of Peter.

    Most notably he was only ordained a priest the day before being made ‘pope’.

  29. Notafan

    I wonder how much operation tethering has cost the Victorian taxpayer?

  30. mh

    Bloody Utah again

    Mike Lee Becomes Fifth GOP Senator to Oppose Trump National Emergency

    Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) announced Wednesday he will become the fifth Republican senator to back a resolution to nullify President Donald Trump’s national emergency….

    Breitbart

  31. Notafan

    It’s a bit like saying King Leonard of Hutt River was the most senior royal to be convicted of tax fraud.

  32. New Zealand is booming.

    Maybe it has something to do with that socialist government.

  33. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mike Lee Becomes Fifth GOP Senator to Oppose Trump National Emergency

    He’s committed political suicide.

    Poll: Nearly Three-Quarters of GOP Voters More Likely to Back Candidate if They Support Trump’s National Emergency (13 Mar)

    Which means three quarters of his voters are about to become his ex-voters.

  34. hzhousewife

    So-called defenders of the public good almost orgasm on TV in front of the nation over the Cardinal’s case, yet the deaths of EIGHT CHILDREN, one of which was not her own, have been brushed aside.

    Muddy, this case was known well enough about, there was even a magazine spread in the Australian weekend paper at the time. The criminal bit is that the lady had been going stark raving bonkers in the weeks leading up to the event, and no friend, neighbour, adult child of hers etc etc did anything about it (of course these days if you are taken to a facility because stark raving bonkers, they have no beds for you). Since she has remained stark raving bonkers ever since, and is in custody, what exactly are we supposed to do about her now?

  35. mh

    Muddy
    #2957842, posted on March 14, 2019 at 10:19 am

    Muddy, it was a case of vagicide.

    *vagicide – crimes the media downplay or ignore due to the perpetrator owning a vagina

  36. That first (anti) Pope john 23 had very spurious claims to the chair of Peter.

    Pope John XXXIII – probably the greatest pope until Francis.
    From Wiki –

    Roncalli was unexpectedly elected pope on 28 October 1958 at age 76 after 11 ballots. Pope John XXIII surprised those who expected him to be a caretaker pope by calling the historic Second Vatican Council (1962–1965), the first session opening on 11 October 1962. His passionate views on equality were summed up in his statement, “We were all made in God’s image, and thus, we are all Godly alike.”
    John XXIII made many passionate speeches during his pontificate. He made a major impact on the Catholic Church, opening it up to dramatic unexpected changes promulgated at the Vatican Council and by his own dealings with other churches and nations. In Italian politics, he prohibited bishops from interfering with local elections, and he helped the Christian Democratic Party to cooperate with the socialists. In international affairs, his “Ostpolitik” engaged in dialogue with the Communist countries of Eastern Europe. He especially reached out to the Eastern Orthodox churches. His overall goal was to modernize the Church by emphasizing its pastoral role, and its necessary involvement with affairs of state. He dropped the traditional rule of 70 cardinals, increasing the size to 85. He used the opportunity to name the first cardinals from Africa, Japan, and the Philippines. He promoted ecumenical movements in cooperation with other Christian faiths. In doctrinal matters, he was a traditionalist, but he ended the practice of automatically formulating social and political policies on the basis of old theological propositions

    His reforms changed the church fundamentally, and dragged it kicking and screaming into the twentieth century.
    Hopefully, Francis will live long enough to complete the job. He’s made a good start. Like Francis, he was first and foremost a pastor.

  37. Notafan

    Noted too that DrBG repeated a falsehood about the Church and St Joan after it was thoroughly discredited by several commenters.

    Confirms my opinion that he has more in common with numbers, Monty and harken.

  38. Muddy

    Winston,

    My point, which I probably didn’t explain clearly (I’m a great waffler), concerned the intent of these people. With the resources (financial and organisational, including P.R, media and political contacts) available to them, these are not your everyday individuals on the street concerned about seal cubs being tickled with traditional Inuit tickling sticks. Those days are mostly gone. I know I’m not telling you anything new here, but I firmly believe that we need to differentiate how we identify this ‘new generation’ who wish to be acknowledged as worthy descendants of the 60s and 70s, yet operate from within the multiple protections of a society they publicly state they aim to destroy.

    If someone walks up to you in your front yard and says “I’m going to burn your house to ashes,” do you say “Sure, and hey, that’s a great deodorant, what is it?” because you recognise them as being related to someone you once went to school with?

    That’s probably a daft analogy, but to me, if a person or persons threaten me or my family, I’m not inclined to respond in a friendly or tolerant manner. In a broader sense, there’s little I can do as an individual, but I can control the language I use to refer to them.

    OK, lecture over.

  39. Confused Old Misfit

    An Australian woman trapped with her two young children in a refugee camp for Islamic State group families says her daughter needs urgent medical care and she wants to come home. The woman refused to confirm her identity, but it’s believed she is 24-year-old Zehra Duman from Melbourne.

    Is the free medical service offered in the camp not up to scratch then?

  40. Notafan

    That’s right numbers.

    Sadly Vatican ii lead to the mass exodus of men and women from religious life and laity from the church and just about ruined holy mass,

    For all his personal attributes it’s a sad legacy.

  41. C.L.

    Pope John XXIII has about as much in common with contemporary Catholic liberals as Bobby Kennedy has in common with Nancy Pelosi. Which is to say, nothing.

  42. hzhousewife

    FYI
    population New Zealand 4.8 million
    population Sydney 5.7 million by Jun 2019

    Kiwi sister -in -law has no high opinion of Winston Peters, will be interesting to see if
    the lady with the teeth gets re-elected.

  43. Notafan

    Pope Francis has emphatically said no to women priests, he’s told gays to be impeccable or get out, and has maintained the rules about admitting homosexuals to seminaries.

    He maintained the appointment of Cardinal Pell to clean up the Vatican financials AFAIK until Cardinal Pell volunterily returned to Australia.

    He is firm on the subject of abortion.
    What is your list of great stuff from Pope Francis, numbers?

  44. Bruce of Newcastle

    Maybe it has something to do with that socialist government.

    Numbers – That would be Kiwiland’s emasculated minority socialist government which is kept afloat by mercenary nationalist Winston Peter’s party?

    NZ is popular as about the only place that both lefties and righties could consider escaping to. A long line of luvvies in America have said they want to move to NZ to flee the Orange One. And here NZ looks like a superior alternative to Shortenistan.

    One of the attractive features of NZ is they are fairly immune to green electricity craziness because their forebears had the wisdom to build lots of hydro dams, especially in South Island. So electricity prices won’t rise much and there’s much less chance of a grid black-system event like Venezuela is presently suffering from.

    Another awesomely attractive feature of New Zealand is their relatively low population of MENA men and the RoP (~1%). And that NZ is not really on the radar for the country shoppers, at least not yet. Maybe they are afraid of getting eaten by Maoris.

  45. Ivan Denisovich

    It is incredible when you realize the extent of the powers aligned against Pell.

    Paul Collits names most of the persecutors and other targets in their crosshairs:

    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2019/03/todays-public-burning-and-those-to-come/

  46. Eyrie

    “Most important is the cholesterol message Jay is promoting.”
    Um, no. It just isn’t that simple and Statins are horrible. Dodgy raw data, paid for by drug companies, kept secret, etc etc.
    Just like the climate science scam.

  47. Muddy

    Inspirational.

    U.S. Army veteran with no legs climbs 2,700 steps on his hands.

    Dude. I’m sitting here with a fractured toe and feeling sorry for myself. Somebody slap me hard.

  48. Confused Old Misfit

    NZ is popular as about the only place that both lefties and righties could consider escaping to.

    1980 conditions will come again and then the only people they’ll want will be nuclear chemists.

  49. Muddy:
    Yes, I understand the point you make.
    Just an addendum to it, last year these wreckers published a plan they were going to use to shut down the coal industry. I feel that the plan shows adequate levels of malicious forethought to qualify as evidence of criminality in regards to the railway blocking etc.
    These actions need to be investigated by police and judiciary in this light.
    *actions need to be investigated by police and judiciary

    *This is my idea of a joke. We’ve seen the police and judiciary’s ideas of investigation recently…

  50. notafan

    Paul Collins article is excellent and articulates very well many of the views expressed here, and more.

    He could have been a bitter ex Catholic but clearly he is not.

    I am now doing to renew my subscription to Quadrant, which I should have done a couple of weeks ago.

  51. calli

    Collits has now put himself, and Quadrant, firmly in the cross-hairs.

    Good man.

    The response will prove his point.

  52. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    ‘There’s no magic in coal’ says Peter Dutton just now reported in the Oz, vs Barnaby Joyce’s desire for a new coal-fired power station in Queensland.

    The Liberals are soft-pedalling as hard as they can on the climate issue. They just want it to go away while they win the election on other issues. Fat chance. They should have thought about all of this before now, and primed the electorate to be critical of mass climatic delusions and the lunatic and unaffordable ‘solutions’ for this. They could have taken a middle road leaving the way open for a change in energy policy, especially putting Snowy 2 on hold, but now they are just also rans. They have left themselves running scared by not challenging the Green/Labor world of ‘settled science’ and particularly of ‘settled energy sources’. Very, very stupid, Libs. It all sounds so hollow for them now.

    I do wonder if promising a Royal Commission on the latest IPCC reductions in concerns, i.e. the variable science and the required energy responses – as per Hanson promises – might even now be the way to save the day for them? They have to shrug Malcolm off their shoulders somehow for the lost base to even consider giving them a vote at present. Will they learn when the alternatives romp it in?

  53. Muddy

    hzhousewife
    #2957860, posted on March 14, 2019 at 10:56 am

    My point was not what to do about the KILLER (let’s not pussyfoot around this: EIGHT CHILDREN DEAD – does that happen every day?), but a comparison between the level of media attention granted to that event and the amount of bodily fluids ejaculated in public during Cardinal Pell’s recent trial judgement and sentencing. Yes, I am aware that the mass homicide was featured in the news, as I acknowledged above, however back then I was still engaged with the so-called mainstream media, and my memory cannot recall in the aftermath, the length and depth of comment that has taken place most recently.

  54. Old School Conservative

    Ivan Denisovich
    #2957875, posted on March 14, 2019 at 11:11 am
    It is incredible when you realize the extent of the powers aligned against Pell.
    Paul Collits names most of the persecutors and other targets in their crosshairs:

    The “Get Pell” crowd have easily morphed into the “Kill Pell” crowd.
    The anger and bitterness of these people outside the Victorian courts directing their venom at Cardinal Pell was instructive.

  55. Muddy

    Winston,

    Essentially these people are mercenaries. Even if it cannot be proven they are paid a wage and have a signed contract, they are provided resources to achieve an outcome. Wandering our streets are people in disguise whose intent is to harm us; at the very least, economically.

    Insurgents, mercenaries, wreckers: the new (middle) criminal class.

  56. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Muddy
    #2957847, posted on March 14, 2019 at 10:28 am
    five environmental activists
    Insurgents. Economic, social and cultural insurgents.
    Let’s call them what they are. They have publicly vowed to shut down part of our economy and further damage what little remains of our energy security. Those are not neutral or benign ‘acts’. They are self-admitted sabotage.

    Yes, +1
    Time to attack back. In whatever ways possible.
    As a start, some serious and informative electoral ads are needed about these Centrelink activists.
    Including Sleeping Giants, led by an activist on our taxes at Edith Cowen University.
    They are all poison from within.

  57. Roger

    There’s no magic in coal’ says Peter Dutton…

    What a dill.

  58. Notafan

    This is one of the reasons I so admire Cardinal Pell, he sticks to his principles, no matter what the personal cost.

    Abbott, Dutton etc just cannot do it.

  59. Mother Lode

    Frollicking,

    The Poena Cullei! (On the last thread)

    I agree with the punishment. The sack would hit the water and the woman would be utterly inert except for her mouth which would be issuing in a shrill voice her demand that a social worker come and swim for her.

    Frankly it sounds like life is just to onerous for her, as she limps along damaged, hemmed in on all sides by terrifying spectres of such things as having to travel to a job or get up to change the channel. And all the while shooting out spawn like wet beans squeezed between a thumb and forefinger.

    Let her bob along the Tiber until it joins with the Styx. And send her kids to the salt mines to sweat out the memories of their mother.

  60. Muddy

    Perhaps an article in Quadrant introducing the new subversives and their eco-terror campaign, Lizzie?

  61. Bruce of Newcastle

    People can tell temperatures are rising, and rising temperatures make water run out faster.

    What a ripper piece of mystical nonsense!

    Temperatures aren’t rising, which is why BoM has taken to cooling the past to fool people, and to over-forecasting temperature based on they CO2 souped-up models. People rarely look at what the actual temperature was, but they do look at the forecast temperature. So you can hype the coming crazy heat, but not be castigated when it fails to eventuate.

    Summer here was very nice indeed, with maybe one day at 40 C and a few at 38 C. Which is less than what I am used to. But then I’ve lived here over a quarter of a century, whereas the poor indoctrinated kids can only remember a year or two back.

    As to water running out I note the ocean is still there. That is about 96.5% water from what I recall.

    Hark is a perfect example of the Sovietization of Australian brain tissue.

  62. Muddy

    Bruce, I’m surprised that you find intellectual stimulation in responding to Genericus Absurdus.

  63. mh

    And don’t anyone bother pointing me to cold spells happening in the USA …

    Montana just endured one of the nation’s most exceptional cold spells on record

    https://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/Montana-just-endured-one-of-the-nation-s-most-13679719.php

  64. I recently received the latest Australia Post catalogue. In it is a tiny motion camera for $79.95.
    I bought the exact same camera for $10 x 2. Free mail from China.
    This is the standard in this country – buy cheap shit from China for a pittance, and sell it on at an 800% markup.
    This really pisses me off. How many of our ‘entrepreneurial’ class have gotten wealthy on such blatant abuses of our industrial destruction?

  65. Confused Old Misfit

    The average global temperature has been increasing for around 15K years.

  66. Shy Ted

    ABC Foreign Correspondent – The “Floating City” is sinking under rising seas and the weight of mass tourism. Now Venice’s (their grammar error, not mine) are fighting to reclaim it, as Samantha Hawley reports.
    Or as Shy Ted reports, Samantha Hawley and crew get all expenses paid holiday to one of the world’ great destinations paid for by you.

  67. Ivan Denisovich

    People can tell temperatures are rising

    How can they tell?

  68. Bruce of Newcastle

    I think this one is hilarious.

    Elizabeth Warren Has ‘Zero’ Sympathy for People Involved in Alleged Fraudulent Entry into Colleges

    A lady who got a job at Harvard on the back of her fake ancestry has zero sympathy for ladies gaining positions for their kids on the back of their fake SAT scores.

  69. Muddy:

    Perhaps an article in Quadrant introducing the new subversives and their eco-terror campaign, Lizzie?

    I think there was an article in Quadrant last year about January…

  70. Old School Conservative

    To start a discussion with Lizzie: just how thick are you tells us all we need to know about Julie Harken.
    A poor debater, no sense of the facts, and uses personal invective instead of reasoned analysis.

    What a great idea, Julie Harken!

    PS go here for facts which will destroy your facile argument. If you dare.

  71. zyconoclast

    To close racial gaps, Indiana sets a lower bar for black students. Advocates say that’s wrong.

    Some education advocates are decrying Indiana’s strategy for closing gaps in test scores and graduation rates among students of color, criticizing the state for setting lower expectations for black and Hispanic students.

    The state’s five-year goal is to cut in half the number of students who aren’t passing tests or aren’t graduating from high school. But because officials have set targets for each racial group based on how they’re performing now, the state’s goals won’t completely close gaps between students of color and their white peers.

  72. zyconoclast

    Why We Need More Black Students In Canadian Law Schools

    There were almost 1.2 million Black people living in Canada in 2016, representing 3.5 per cent of the total Canadian population. With 20 law schools in Canada, why is it that in 2019 we can still have an entire class with no Black students? At law schools that are fortunate enough to attract a handful of Black students, why are there no Black males?

  73. Muddy

    Thanks Winston. I’ll have to take up a subscription again. I haven’t been too keen for the last few years, though I have intended to purchase a couple of their books and keep on forgetting to do so.

    I find it desirable to label them the new criminal class though. It has a certain [insert fancy French words] to it.

  74. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hi antipostmodernism. Welcome to Catallaxy, aka the Cat.

    Lots here get exasperated with the Oz and the comment moderation there, but do keep on trying. It is one of the few outlets where things can still be oppositional to the mainstream. Witness that Janet Albrechtsen’s column on Sleeping Giants has now spurred a huge 1200 or more comments and that many of these are from people who have only just decided to let their voices, and their wallets, do some talking and walking.

    As the old ad maxim says, every little bit counts. Remember to subscribe to Quadrant and The Spectator too if you can manage it. It all helps. Plus the weblog list on the sidebar here, and the links within the Cat, can be used, and forwarded to others. Political Party activism is also another was to go, and gently challenging received opinion face to face wherever you find it is also helpful, if your job can stand the blowback that sometimes happens.

  75. zyconoclast

    Re children activists , the last party who propaganderised children was the National Socialist Democratic Workers Party ,the Nazis. It was called the Hitler Youth Movement.

    Who Were China’s Red Guards?
    The first Red Guards groups were made up of students, ranging from as young as elementary school children up to university students.

  76. dopey

    Numbers never flew Concorde. A mystery.

  77. notafan

    BoN I thought the amount of water in the world was constant?

    if it is ‘disappearing’ where is it going , into the oceans?

  78. Farmer Gez

    I’m knocking at least 1.5 degrees off modern temperature records to align them with glass bulb readings of the past.
    There’s no logical reason that this is not as valid as decreasing past temperature records to dovetail into modern recording systems. The glass bulb record is far longer and better understood than digital sensing. Model A stuff.

  79. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There’s a reason why the Greens, Labor want to give 16-year-olds the voteThe MockerFollow @Oz_Mocker

    4 minutes ago March 14, 2019
    1 Comment

    To quote Tennessee Williams, there is a “powerful and obnoxious odour of mendacity in this room”, or more specifically the Senate. The Greens have introduced a private member’s bill that, if passed, will lower the voting from 18 to 16. It will, said senator Jordon Steele-John, allow 600,000 young Australians “to engage in the democratic process”.

    Expanding democracy is all very well, but we are entitled to be suspicious when the proposal comes from collectivists. After all, this is the same mob that demands slavish adherence to the haughty proclamations of unelected human rights commissioners, and which also calls for a bill of rights, which would effectively see the judiciary usurp Parliament’s role. Could it be this bill is motivated by the likelihood the Greens would disproportionately benefit from the resultant vote? Not according to Steele-John, who claimed the additional votes would be distributed “pretty evenly” between the major parties and the Greens.

    Pardon me, senator, but your mendacity is showing, or should I say stinking. A poll by Youth Action in 2016 found that 44.6 per cent of those aged between 17 and 25 support the Greens. While not quite as high, a Fairfax-Ipsos poll that year found the Greens’ primary vote was as high as 32 per cent in the 18-24 category. It prompted the Greens leader, senator Richard Di Natale, to declare brazenly on live television “If there was a vote amongst people who are under 30 in Australia, there’d possibly be a Greens prime minister.”

    From the Oz.

  80. Confused Old Misfit

    In order to allay any nascent feelings of homesickness I’m homogenizing the local Australian temperatures with the temperatures in the locality in which I grew up in Canada!

  81. Diogenes

    s the on-going drought continues to bite hard across southern Queensland the Southern Downs community

    Having lived in the Southern Downs I will make 2 comments;
    1. The old financially stable Stanthorpe Shire Council had money set aside for a new dam on the Severn River Catchment , they lost it all when merged with profligate Warwick Shire, and were forbidden from desilting their old dam (Storm King) on the Clarence catchment as the water levels fell.

    2. Warwick’s Dam (and they were when I left talking about running a pipe from Warwick to Stanthorpe – never happened) Leslie Dam is so shallow that when full, on a normal summers day, when full, looses twice as much water to evaporation as the good burghers of Warwick use.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle

    Get woke go broke part hundred and eleventy.

    CBS staffers in a panic over call for $100M in cuts

    After the Kaepernick kneeling abomination started to fizzle I cautiously resumed watching NFL, only for CBS commentary team to slag off Trump that first game back. I haven’t watched NFL for more than about 5 minutes since.

  83. Chris

    My point was not what to do about the KILLER (let’s not pussyfoot around this: EIGHT CHILDREN DEAD – does that happen every day?), but a comparison between the level of media attention granted to that event and the amount of bodily fluids ejaculated in public during Cardinal Pell’s recent trial judgement and sentencing. Yes, I am aware that the mass homicide was featured in the news, as I acknowledged above, however back then I was still engaged with the so-called mainstream media, and my memory cannot recall in the aftermath, the length and depth of comment that has taken place most recently.

    Muddy, I think that actually doesn’t fly. The disparity is easily understood; the opportunity for the offense-taking onanists to puff themselves up in the public eye is not there.
    The media as a whole do not form a circle to decide which narratives they wish to advance. Individuals write stuff to get life-game points; some get it in delicious self-created brain drugs, and some in the cool satisfaction of well written balanced craft writing. The huffing over guns is about 98.999% the former type.

  84. lotocoti

    never flew Concorde.

    No.
    But without his valuable insights into aeronautics, it would never have flown.

  85. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Antipostmodernism #2957839, posted on March 14, 2019 at 10:10 am

    Hello. I’m a newbie here.

    Welcome!

  86. notafan

    Paul Collins’ article well explains why one case is so much in the media (and the other not).

  87. Old School Conservative

    Whinging Old Bastards on facebook brings a good laugh to the most jaded of us.
    e.g. “The man who invented SpellCheck died today. May he rust in piss.”

  88. Roger

    Paul Collits, nota; not to be confused with the former priest and commentator Paul Collins.

  89. Mater

    1735099
    #2957856, posted on March 14, 2019 at 10:50 am

    New Zealand is booming.

    Maybe it has something to do with that socialist government

    They can keep the socialism, but I’ll take their gun laws.

    NZ’s battle over semi-automatics: Police frustrated by the law, firearm owners frustrated by police

    Less hysteria and more perspective needed over firearms

  90. calli

    Welcome, Antipostmodernism.

    Speak your mind. Don’t hold back.

    Wear armour.

  91. notafan

    Cheers Roger

    That explains much, and reminds me I should wear my reading glasses

  92. Bruce of Newcastle

    BoN I thought the amount of water in the world was constant?

    Nota – Yes, that was what I meant to mean. The ocean is 96.5% pure H2O by weight is what I meant. Also rainfall isn’t actually changing due to CO2 that we can tell, but more people are drawing from the available stored water because the greenies have prevented dams from being built these last several decades. The water isn’t running out, the pollies just have abrogated their responsibility to provide supply to expanded population. Hark is therefore spouting pure-grade green crud.

  93. Roger

    That explains much, and reminds me I should wear my reading glasses

    😉

  94. Roger

    The water isn’t running out, the pollies just have abrogated their responsibility to provide supply to expanded population.

    And yet they keep expanding the population.

  95. Dr Faustus

    Re children activists , the last party who propaganderised children was the National Socialist Democratic Workers Party ,the Nazis. It was called the Hitler Youth Movement.

    Back in 2015 Vlad the Putin kick-started a 21st century version of the Soviet Young Pioneers movement (decd. 1991).

    The Russian Schoolchildren’s Movement is being established to “perfect state policy in the area of educating the young generation, [and] to support the forming of personalities on the basis of the value system inherent to Russian society,” Putin said in a decree…

    Resonance in The Australian education system.

  96. bespoke

    dopey
    #2957929, posted on March 14, 2019 at 12:18 pm
    Numbers never flew Concorde. A mystery.

    Or Space Shuttle.

  97. Infidel Tiger

    Childrens Climate Tantrum begins at St Georges Cathedral in Perth.

    How fitting.

  98. Baldrick

    The Stupid. It Burns.

    The Advertiser ✔ @theTiser
    Police are asking the public to stop calling triple-zero about the Facebook and Instagram outage.

  99. Dr Faustus

    To close racial gaps, Indiana sets a lower bar for black students. Advocates say that’s wrong.

    It will be fine, providing that in 10 years time Indiana sets lower bars for professional practice by black doctors, engineers and Boeing pilots.

  100. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    As the on-going drought continues to bite hard across southern Queensland the Southern Downs community will move to extreme level water restrictions with severe drought conditions and no rainfall continuing to significantly impact the region’s water supplies.

    Just how ‘thick’ am I, Harken? Thick enough to have looked at the history of settlement in Queensland and noticed the very uncertain rainfalls and the absolute certainty of long and eventually breaking droughts. Dorothea MacKellar knew a thing or two about droughts and flooding plains.

    From Mary Durack’s “Kings in Grass Castles”, where the famous ‘seven year’ drought broke the backs of many families, including Patrick (Patsy) Durack’s hard won fortune, sending him on to his famous overlanding cattle droving sons in the more resilient Kimberley in WA.

    “In Brisbane they were met by a flock of relatives, Tullys, Scanlans, Skeahans and Moores with their tales of bar subsistence through droughts and floods and the big bank smash of ’91”. P360

    This has always been marginal country for settlement and farming, as is much of Australia, as a wealth of anecdotal historical records suggest. The BOM has falsified records, ignored newspaper reports of long droughts and very high recorded temperatures in the nineteenth century and into the twentieth, and attempts now to create unwarranted panic in the current coddled urban populations. In my girlhood in Western Sydney we had temperatures rivaling those of today, in some bad years. The old creeks also still regularly flooded and had to be controlled due to the growth of the new housing estates on old pasturelands, which the aborigines used to fire farm to be free of trees.

  101. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Just heard about single-touch payroll. Big Brother (the ATO in this case) is closer than ever!

  102. thefrollickingmole

    Giving yourself horrible diseases by doing public self-flagellation is one of the more interesting Darwinian activities the human race has come up with.

    But enough about the Sydney LGBTQWERTY mardi gras….

  103. Boambee John

    Lizzie

    Including Sleeping Giants, led by an activist on our taxes at Edith Cowen University.
    They are all poison from within.

    Minor typo there, that’s Enid Blyton Uni.

  104. Muddy:

    [insert fancy French words]

    I think yer be lookin’ for ‘Jenersaykwa.’

  105. Tom

    “The man who invented SpellCheck died today. May he rust in piss.”

    Thanks, OSC — a great one-percenter. And what Calli said:

    Speak your mind. Don’t hold back.
    Wear armour.

    You’ve both brightened my day.

  106. Cassie of Sydney

    “Antipostmodernism
    #2957839, posted on March 14, 2019 at 10:10 am
    Hello. I’m a newbie here. I have commented in the mainstream media here and there for years but every media outlet has eventually become infected by political correct moderation so that I always end up being effectively no platformed and have to move on. My last safe haven for free speech was The Australian but mid last year they suddenly succumbed to the tyrants and loons too despite presenting themselves as the paper that fights for free speech, enlightenment values etc. I especially detest false allies with two faces. I was having a whinge last night at the OZ about how I can’t viably express myself there anymore or in any of the mainstream media and someone suggested I try my luck here. So I’ll give this thing a whirl some time and see how we go. I am a proud thought criminal and hope to see a few familiar subversives (normal rational people) here.”

    Welcome Antipostmodernism, I recognise your name from The Oz…….you’ll find like minded people here apart from the following three amigos….

    The perpetually dumb Numbers… the man who is still getting over peeling potatoes in Vietnam 50 years ago, the man who thinks that Cuba is a great place to live and finally…the coup de grace….the man who doesn’t know the difference between a vagina and vulva…..you have to feel sorry for Mrs Numbers

    Barking Mad, I think his name says it all. To use a Larry David line…he needs a panel to assess him.

    Monty the Munchy…who is always wrong about everything…but we’re quite fond of him…unlike the two morons above.

  107. Snoopy

    1735099
    #2957856, posted on March 14, 2019 at 10:50 am
    New Zealand is booming.

    Maybe it has something to do with that socialist government.

    Or just maybe NZ is still enjoying the consequences of John Key electing to cut expenditure as a response to the GFC instead of borrowing billions to piss up against the wall as KRudd and Goose Swansteen did.

    Money that we still haven’t repaid.

  108. Mindfree

    Just heard about single-touch payroll. Big Brother (the ATO in this case) is closer than ever!

    Yup N K-P

    I can tell you the interface mechanism of information from all Super Funds via employers to the ATO using the Superstream communication platform including Centerlink DHS payment info is now at a stage where one integrated information database will become a reality and the penalties for administrative misdemeanors from employers and SMSFs will rise dramatically along with designated education sessions for those who do not follow the correct procedures. As well, some former admin missteps are now going to be re-classified as criminal actions such as submitting incorrect super guarantee contributions

    I was on a phone hook-up with the ATO a couple of weeks ago in my professional capacity to get this first-hand

  109. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Minor typo there, that’s Enid Blyton Uni.

    Well, they’re certainly got off at the wrong land in The Magic Faraway Tree.
    Enid had her exploring kids out of those sorts of places pronto.

    I am very fond of Enid Blyton stories. Read them to my kids when they were young.
    They found them fascinating. It’s the stories, stupid. Kids love adventure and gangs.
    And imaginings about strange worlds, weird people, baddies and goodies, and kids solving problems.

    That’s all that the current lot of little adventurers out in force this day for ‘Climate Change’ are doing.

    Fantasising along approved leftist lines, after having been fed the narrative.

  110. Boambee John

    Cassie

    man who doesn’t know the difference between a vagina and vulva…..you have to feel sorry for Mrs Numbers

    He also has a problem with the difference between ergot and argot. Mrs Numbers needs to let him sample it first if he ever makes her some alphabet soup! His argot might contain ergot.

    Actually, I think ergot causes hallucinations, perhaps he has already sampled the vernacular soup before posting here?

  111. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hey, why is Harken! now Julia?
    Is the hairy angel now female?
    Can angels ‘transition’?
    Or do we have a genuine vaginal troll on our hands?

  112. Boambee John

    Barken mad

    insurance companies, all of which do not doubt climate change is serious

    In tbe case of the insurance companies, it provides them with a free chance to raise premiums, without having the SJWankers accuse them of profiteering. No climate change equals serious loss of profits, plus again being the hate figure for the SJWankers.

  113. Cassie of Sydney

    “I am very fond of Enid Blyton stories. “

    Me too….I loved Famous Five & Noddy when I was a little girl.

  114. notafan

    This type of attack on a conviction is not generally successful. Courts of appeal place great weight in the ability of a jury to make findings of facts, and the significant advantage that the jury had in seeing the witnesses give evidence.

    He doesn’t really go through the issues does he?

    exculpatory witnesses uncorroborated evidence no physical evidence the fact that one of the ‘victims’ for which there were guilty verdicts died before any allegation was made and actually denied being abused by anybody, more than once.

    I wonder if the jury heard that? Or was it disallowed by the hearsay rule?

    He also ignored the long term poisoning of the jury well here in Victoria.

    In WA this type of case would have been heard by a judge alone, something he fails to discuss.

  115. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    the news is full of record (high) temperatures, droughts and floods (both of which can be exacerbated by climate change).

    Of course it is. No surprise there. Fake records. False ‘science’. Lotsa money involved.

    Goebbels said if a lie is big enough, it will be believed, as long as it is repeated enough.
    That observations is as true today, and as dangerous in its effect, as it ever was.
    Thankfully, many people are beginning to see through the mist of it in this internet age.
    Just look at how the narrative has changed to compensate for this, since the days of the Gore movie.

  116. Childrens Climate Tantrum begins at St Georges Cathedral in Perth.

    Nice counterpoint to the Conservative Catholic Child Molest0r Cheerleader Tantrum going on here.

  117. Mother Lode

    *vagicide – crimes the media downplay or ignore due to the perpetrator owning a vagina

    We should also consider:

    Vagitarian – someone who thinks anything female is good, wholesome, beneficial, pure etc. It influences their views on everything. Business? More quotas! Law and order? Must not be doubted. Something men like doing (such as certain sports)? Government funding and programs to encourage women!

    Vagan – Extreme Vagitarian. Being female does not influence their views – it is the basis of them. Everything is about making the world woman. Boys should be be made ashamed of themselves and try to be girls. Girls should be free to do what boys used to. Men should be removed from power and position because they are toxic and destructive. They should strive to be female while being forever fated to be denied. The first world should be feminised (they never seem to worried about their poor brown skinned sisters).

  118. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Note to self: must proof read. Sorry for my many typos in stuff posted.
    Always on the Cat in a tearing hurry.

  119. Cassie of Sydney

    “Nice counterpoint to the Conservative Catholic Child Molest0r Cheerleader Tantrum going on here.”

    Well fuck off then

  120. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Two for the Catitionary there, Mother Lode. lol.

  121. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    cranks and dumbos

    See that shiny thing over there, Harken. Take a dekko into it.
    Why goodness me, that you, isn’t it?
    Biggest brainless yes-person on the planet.
    Now you’ll be telling me angels don’t show up in mirrors.
    Just like vampires.

    Suits me. Great to see you fade into well-deserved inconsequence.

  122. C.L.

    Paul Collins article is excellent and articulates very well many of the views expressed here, and more.

    Equally excellent is Keith Windschuttle’s piece: George Pell and the Jury.

    I was very interested in VicPol’s apeing of the wholly discredited police “trawling” tactic, as explained by Windschuttle’s. He quotes English journalist Richard Webster, who blew the whistle on this vile and dangerous trick. This struck me:

    These investigations are often said to involve “children’s homes”. In fact they are usually residential institutions for troubled or difficult adolescents and, since the allegations of abuse usually refer back ten, 20 or even 30 years, those making them are not children at all. They are almost always adults, many of them with long criminal records. In a number of cases they make their allegations in prison or while facing serious criminal charges. It is here that the real dangers of police trawling operations become apparent – or ought to become apparent.

    February 2018: Pell’s lawyers refused access on alleged victim’s criminal history.

    Magistrate Belinda Wallington on Tuesday ruled Victoria Legal Aid was not compelled to hand over material on one of its former clients to Cardinal Pell’s defence team, which had outlined some of the man’s personal details related to his appearances in court in 2006 and 2012.

    Defence lawyers sought the material to determine whether the man used any allegations of sexual abuse as mitigating reasons when before the courts.

    Imagine my surprise.

  123. C.L.

    Further from Webster:

    If police officers interview hundreds of damaged young people with long records of deception and dishonesty, with the aim of gathering allegations of abuse against those who once cared for them, it would be surprising if they did not succeed — particularly when such allegations can result in thousands of pounds being paid out by the UK Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.

  124. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Speaking of Catictinary, is Mediocracy, as opposed to a Meritocracy in there?

  125. Tel

    This angel talks AT people who wouldn’t dream of voting for Bill Shorten …

    Cheers … glad to be of some help.

  126. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Defence lawyers sought the material to determine whether the man used any allegations of sexual abuse as mitigating reasons when before the courts.

    or a history of mental illness, serious drug abuse, etc.

  127. thefrollickingmole

    Harkwit got the latest memo for Soros Prime…

    “Call anyone who isn’t 100% on board an anti-vaxxer instead of a nazi”

    Funnily enough if I was to turn that around and say “you people who support abortion of the possibly disabled are the same as the nazis eugenics mob” Id be 100% accurate.

    Anyone else find it vile their ABC promos feature “diversity” up the wazoo, including a couple of Downs affected kids, when their cherished aim is to kill them all before birth.

  128. notafan

    Nor was Richter allowed access to medical records, which would include any counselling .

    Access to counselling records ought be standard in historical sex abuse cases

    Failure to mention sexual abuse in counselling ought to give serious pause those investigating later allegations

    And don’t forget the accuser has been allowed to amend their statement multiple times to match known facts , that were brought to air by the DEFENSE, the police being too lazy to check even the basics.

  129. Old School Conservative

    who acknowledge that climate is changing and see no reason to disbelieve the scientists who predicted it would change due to increased greenhouse gas emissions.

    The correct predictions only occurred in less than 5% of all predictions.
    (Source – former NASA scientist Dr. Roy Spencer)

    Thanks for playing. What a great opening, Julie Harken!

  130. Can someone tell me whether the court’s refusal in the Pell case to allow the defence access to the complainant’s medical and criminal history is usual – because I would not have thought so.

    The divisive comments in the wider community regarding this matter SO illustrate the increasing dominance of emotive responses over rational analysis. Whether Pell was guilty or innocent is one serious matter – but the other is whether the proper processes of the criminal law code were followed in his conviction.

    This is something that affects us all.

  131. thefrollickingmole

    How crap is Venezuela?
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/13/venezuela-blackout-what-caused-it-and-what-happens-next

    In May last year, a union leader representing workers in the state power corporation, was arrested by Venezuela’s intelligence service, Sebin, after warning that poor maintenance and systemic problems meant that a blackout was likely to happen.

  132. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    the little bubble world of comfort and vanity that you and your pals are “insiders” who know what’s really going on.

    The smashing win by Tony Abbott in the 2013 ‘climate madness carbon tax’ election, and the rise of smaller climate-realist political parties with huge popular support, hardly bear out your claims above, Harken. Let alone the many genuinely concerned scientists and other highly educated observers who see serious problems with the current blind acceptance of an untested and untestable hypothesis and its solution of ‘deindustrialisation’ of the Western nations.

    The various leftists I know, and there are quite a few as I was once one of them, in my opinion live in a startlingly enclosed world of self-congratulatory confirmations they offer each other. Most live in highly specific urban enclaves, where their lifestyle fantasies are well supplied with smashed avo on sourdough.

    I’ve just had that for my lunch, btw, and very nice it was too, with some salmon and an egg. I am not convinced that this culture has much else to offer me though. I know it through and through, from years in academia in some of the most left-wing environments you can imagine. They increasingly horrified me, coming as I did originally from the very real world of public housing in Sydney’s western suburbs – no-one similar to me in that left-wing environment – they were all sons and daughters of the well-off middle living in a very comfortable bubble.

  133. notafan

    Marco Rubio now saying that over 80 newborns in one hospital alone have died as the result of the blackout

    No diesel generators either (other than for partying government officials)?

    It will take decades for Venezuela to get back to any semblance of normality. .

  134. C.L.

    The divisive comments in the wider community regarding this matter SO illustrate the increasing dominance of emotive responses over rational analysis.

    There is an inverse relationship between the number of women in kitchens and nurseries and the quality of rational analysis in the Western world.

  135. Dr Fred Lenin

    I am suggesting two Royal Commissions ,a Royal Comission into political honesty and a Royal Commission into Royal Commissions . I volunteer to be chairperson of both ,for a considerable fee ,oaid in to my Cayman Islands Account , thats the one next to the Turnbull Account and the Goldman Sachs Account , we are all good citizens and pay tax ,well a bit of tax well as little tax as possible as you do .
    I promise to nail the politicians and former Royal Commissions gang ,even if I have to do a Pell on them .

    Muddy a new catword ,to do a Pell on him ,to fit him up .
    He was Pelled as in Pell was Pelled .

  136. Eyrie

    Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America

    Oath

    “I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.”

    Australian

    From this time forward,
    I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,
    whose democratic beliefs I share,
    whose rights and liberties I respect, and
    whose laws I will uphold and obey.

    Ours seems like weak beer indeed.

  137. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Harkwit got the latest memo for Soros Prime…
    “Call anyone who isn’t 100% on board an anti-vaxxer instead of a nazi”

    I’ve never met a single anti-vaxer in my more recent political orientations, Harken. Not a one.
    I met quite a few of them living the Green lifestyle in my previous acquaintance though.
    Anti-vax hysteria goes well with political veganism and conspiracy suspicion of capitalist Big Pharma.
    The working class still vaccinate their kids; the wealthier inner suburbs seem more choosy about that.

  138. stackja

    notafan
    #2958015, posted on March 14, 2019 at 1:51 pm

    Vic Pol not necessarily lazy. They made things easy for ‘boys’.

  139. Mark A

    Eyrie
    #2958050, posted on March 14, 2019 at 2:30 pm

    Ours seems like weak beer indeed.

    Which you can get after 2 years with minimal or no English.
    Or in some instances even sooner.

    Easy come, not respected or valued, what do you expect?

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There is an inverse relationship between the number of women in kitchens and nurseries and the quality of rational analysis in the Western world.

    Correlations, inverse or otherwise, are not causation though, CL.

    But you know that already. Best you pack it out with some causative factors.
    I might even believe you then. 🙂

  141. vlad

    He was Pelled as in Pell was Pelled .

    But at least Pell can appeal. If he couldn’t it would be appalling.

  142. Mark A

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2958051, posted on March 14, 2019 at 2:31 pm

    His term ” consensus science” says all, one needs to know about his knowledge of CC.

  143. notafan

    I don’t know how often requests for medical records are refused but generally as I understand it defense is looking for accounts of a claimed assault that are significantly different that the account before the court, in relation to recent claim of sexual assault.

    In historical matters absence of any reference to sexual assault in discussing life issues would be rather puzzling, no doubt what Richter was looking for.

    I don’t know on what grounds that request was refused by Wallington

    Certainly some applications for access are successful, i don’t know the percentage, doesn’t appear to be any papers on the subject, at least on my limited perusal.

    restrictions use disclousre confidentail communications victim sexual assault treating health practitioners

  144. Infidel Tiger

    Marco Rubio now saying that over 80 newborns in one hospital alone have died as the result of the blackout

    Rubio is a blood thirsty maniac, just itching for the US to invade Venezuela.

    He should stick to foam parties and open borders derangement.

  145. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Defence lawyers sought the material to determine whether the man used any allegations of sexual abuse as mitigating reasons when before the courts.
    or a history of mental illness, serious drug abuse, etc.

    Or as CL and others including me have suggested, exposure to psychological coaching in the discredited mode of ‘recovered’ memories.

  146. thefrollickingmole

    Rubio is a blood thirsty maniac, just itching for the US to invade Venezuela.

    Catcheck: Mostly true.

    Things are shit enough over there without needing any intervention from anyone.

    The public are learning exactly what Socialism brings in all its true glory.

    Same as we will cop for the 12 years when we have peanut and the harpys of the apocalypse running this clown show.

  147. Bruce of Newcastle

    This angel talks to people who wouldn’t dream of voting for Bill Shorten yet who acknowledge that climate is changing and see no reason to disbelieve the scientists who predicted it would change due to increased greenhouse gas emissions.

    Hark – That’s because those people couldn’t read a graph if you showed them one.
    We understand the climate is changing.
    We also know why.
    It’s the Sun stupid.

    New Paper: Solar Impact On Climate Greater Than Thought (11 Mar)

    I don’t know how the IPCC can get away with assigning solar variance to 0.05 W/m2. Totally crazy and utterly mendacious. Anyone with a brain knows what happens when the Sun does down at night, or when a cloud comes over.

  148. thefrollickingmole

    Oh and harkwit might find the anti vax is pretty well confined to the margins of both left/right, the common strand being distrust of government/big pharma.
    https://allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2018/06/anti-vaccine-movement-embraced-extremes-political-spectrumstudy-finds/

    According to the new study, very high numbers of NMEs were reported in “progressive” cities like Seattle, Wash.; Austin, Texas; and Portland, Ore., as well as extremely conservative Republican strongholds, such as Arizona, Idaho and Utah. High rates of NMEs were also found in Spokane, Wash.; Phoenix; Salt Lake City and Provo, Utah; and the conservative Texas cities of Houston, Fort Worth and Plano. In Michigan, the cities of Troy, Warren and Detroit also stood out for their high exemption rates, as did Kansas City, Missouri; Pittsburgh, Penn., and smaller counties in Wisconsin.

    Ive cracked the code, Harkwit is actually montys guardian angel, it explains so much wrongness and invincible inability to grasp facts.

  149. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Let the Coalition live and die in the world of ‘consensus unreality’, even if you won’t.

    Fixed it for you, Harken. 😉

  150. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No help for Aussie IS bride: PM

    Greg Brown
    Journalist
    @gregbrown_TheOz
    An hour ago March 14, 2019

    She left Australia to join IS, and now wants to bring her sick children back home for urgent medical care.

    But Prime Minister Scott Morrison has no sympathy, and says he won’t be helping her.

    The PM said he will not help Islamic State supporters come back to Australia, as the woman in a Syrian refugee camp claimed her daughter needs urgent medical attention.

    Mr Morrison said people who joined the fight for Daesh “have placed their children in this horrendous position”.

    He said any terrorist supporters would face the “full force of Australian law” if they did come back home.

    “Now, they have to take responsibility for those decisions to join up with terrorists who are fighting Australia. I’m not going to put any Australian at risk to try to extract people from those situations,” Mr Morrison said.

    “They have made their decisions and if they’re Australian citizens. If they are Australians citizens, well, there is a process for us to deal with them under Australian law and they will face the full force of Australian law should they be in a position to try to come back to Australia.”

    The ABC reported an Australian woman in a refugee camp for Islamic State families wants to come back to Australia her children.

    “Both of my kids are sick. (My daughter is) very malnourished, she’s … very skinny,” she told the ABC from the Al-Hawl refugee camp in northern Syria, where she has her two-year-old son and six-month-old daughter.

    From the Oz.

  151. duncanm

    From my kids’ school upcoming cross country :

    14/15 Girls – 2 laps
    14/15 Boys – 3 laps

    16 girls – 3 laps
    16 boys – 4 laps

    I thought sex had nothing to do with it ? … and where do the alphabet people fit in?

    Should I suggest to my Son to identify-for-the-day to avoid a lap ?

  152. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’d like to see those Cornell figures for anti-vaxers disaggregated by socio-economic status, mole. They might express some movement of leftward thinking (and leftist thinkers) into Republican areas. Don’t forget the well-off lefties are now refusing to live in the Californian and other sewers that they have been so busy in constructing, and they take their nonsense with them to new and uncontaminated abodes. Maybe further mining of the data is needed, although I’d agree that the very loony right (not representative of this centre-right blog) may also contain anti-vaxers.

  153. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Should I suggest to my Son to identify-for-the-day to avoid a lap ?

    I’d love to see the teachers’ faces if you did and he followed through on it. 🙂

  154. Old School Conservative

    But Prime Minister Scott Morrison has no sympathy, and says he won’t be helping her.

    Well done PM. A pity you found some of your courage far too late.

  155. duncanm

    The ABC reported an Australian woman in a refugee camp for Islamic State families wants to come back to Australia her children.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-14/australian-jihadi-bride-in-syria-says-she-wants-to-come-home/10899040?section=world

    Kill Kuffar in alleyways, stab them and poisen them. Poison your teachers. Go to haram restaurants and poison the food in large quantities

    no thanks.

  156. duncanm

    I’d love to see the teachers’ faces if you did and he followed through on it. 🙂

    He could just stop one lap short.
    Teacher: “What are you doing, you have another lap to go!”
    Son: “I’m ridding myself of toxic masculinity”

  157. notafan

    I take it that Jihad Bride wants the Australian taxpayer to pick up the tab for her to come home.

    I don’t know why she doesn’t appeal to the Australian muslim community to fund her return, she’s just a sister who made a mistake, after all.

  158. Fat Tony

    “Both of my kids are sick. (My daughter is) very malnourished, she’s … very skinny,” she told the ABC from the Al-Hawl refugee camp in northern Syria, where she has her two-year-old son and six-month-old daughter.

    If she really loved her children, she would bring them back regardless of what would happen to her – if necessary, give them up for adoption. (Like King Solomon, the bub and the 2 claiming to be the bub’s mother).

  159. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    But Prime Minister Scott Morrison has no sympathy, and says he won’t be helping her.

    Be still my bleeding heart. I’d send her an aid package of medicines and food for the children. Up to her to return and face long-term prison in Australia, while we put the children into some deprogramming care. Or we’d take the children only. She can go back to ISIS or similar. She’s forfeited motherhood, imho.

  160. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Pretty much snap there, Fat Tony. We are thinking on the same lines.

  161. Fat Tony

    Yeah Lizzie – the kids are 2 years old and one is 6 months old.
    Not their fault they got a slag for a mother – but she can still do the right thing – if she really loved them.

  162. Confused Old Misfit

    But Prime Minister Scott Morrison has no sympathy, and says he won’t be helping her.

    How long before he reverses that.
    He may continue to have no sympathy but some bleeding heart will insist that Australia is morally obligated to help a citizen in distress and to “think of the children!”.
    Have to agree with Lizzie. Come back if you dare to face the consequences.

  163. Leigh Lowe

    He was Pelled as in Pell was Pelled .

    OMG!
    OMFG!!
    It’s a Catholic conspiracy to get him off!
    I just heard it is now going to the appellate court.
    It’s a fix!

  164. bespoke

    Like the debate on “climate change” their are different degrees of scepticism about vaccine. If Hark has his way we would be drones.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzIgqQPrqpc

  165. Muddy

    I’ve recorded Mother Lode’s two suggestions (though I do wonder if they might be more correctly Vulvatarian and Vulvan, but I’ll take them as is).

    Zippy, I’m happy to stand corrected (though I might pout for a bit), but I thought that mediocracy was already an established word? Hence not eligible for the Catictionary.

    Dr. Fred, I think that Pelled will date very quickly, however if you can provide a more specific definition, it will be considered.

    Business done, I shall return to categorising my belly button lint by gender.

    P.S. Nick, I read your response thank you, however I’m a bit cognitively otherwise occupied at the moment. I appreciate your reply, however.

    Muddy out.

  166. Muddy

    P.S. Why are you sharp-witted people still responding to that troll?

  167. But at least Pell can appeal. If he couldn’t it would be appalling.

    Bear in mind he is appealing to Viktoristani judges.

    I don’t like his chances.

    Bias filter requirements:
    Are you catholic? Yes biased. No biased.
    Have you ever been catholic? Yes biased. No biased.

    No matter what happens, p3ll has already lost.

  168. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What are these “climate-realist political parties with huge popular support”?

    Australian Conservatives garnered over twenty thousand members in its first few months. There is an audience out there. The Libs have bled out their base. The popularity of Outsiders and Sky News in general shows a strong level of public skepticism on climate and other shibboleths of the left, limited until recently in expression only to Foxtel pay-subscribers. See too the popularity of the various gatherings around the country shown on programs such as Paul Murray Live. I am not claiming these numbers will translate into votes, for the field has become very muddied with claimants, often ‘independents’, jumping on the bandwagon of disillusionment with both major Parties and with both of these Parties now making specific ‘free stuff’ pitches to assuage the discontent with more debt-rising handouts. But the portents are there: the populace is restless, often about specific local issues too which may prove more compelling than their climate skepticism. Finding a home for this restlessness is harder.

    One Nation, under Latham, is very much on the rise again, in a new way.
    Political fragmentation is the outcome of climatic madness, in Australia as in France, Germany etc.

  169. Roger

    I thought that mediocracy was already an established word?

    It is, but mediacracy isn’t.

  170. Roger

    Up to her to return and face long-term prison in Australia…

    She entered Syria before it was a “declared area”, so she can’t be charged under section 119.2 of the CC..

    She didn’t engage in combat, or if she did it would be difficult to prove.

    She might get one or two years for recruiting for IS, but that’s it.

    Then a life time on welfare, presumably.

  171. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Small parties of the right – Australian Conservatives, Liberal Democrats, One Nation, Advance Australia (formerly Australian Liberty Alliance), Christian Democrats, United Australia (formerly Clive Palmer’s group) and doubtless a few I’ve missed or not included, such as Fishers and Shooters, Bob Catter’s, etc.

    There is also fragmentation in the left, or the leftward leaning, such as the DLP, Derryn Hinch’s group, and the various socialist parties whose splits escape me, and special interest lefties such as the Science Party, etc.

    Contributions and corrections from Cats welcome. We should all know what is out there, if only to assist with the nomenclature on election days.

  172. bespoke

    Last night’s school board meeting was heavily attended by concerned and frightened parents in the heavily Hispanic district who were confused and upset that they had not previously been informed of the details of the new curriculum they are now having shoved down their throats. California law requires curriculum framework to be provided in English and Spanish to parents for approval. No Spanish curriculum has been made available to parents in that district. It is probably no coincidence that the vast majority of immigrant based/related communities in this state are whole-heartedly opposed to LGBT-based sex-ed curriculum in their public schools.

  173. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Gotta go.
    As mentioned above, can’t waste too much of my time or yours arguing with trolls off their trollies.
    It passes the time and allows procrastination re attending to more important things. I know that. 🙂

  174. Myrddin Seren

    Small parties of the right – Australian Conservatives, Liberal Democrats, One Nation, Advance Australia (formerly Australian Liberty Alliance), Christian Democrats, United Australia (formerly Clive Palmer’s group) and doubtless a few I’ve missed or not included, such as Fishers and Shooters, Bob Catter’s, etc.

    Too many.

    Falling over themselves.

    Not going to end well.

  175. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hark – If the ABC was a pay channel it’d have fewer watchers than Sky News.

    Hey that’s a great idea, make the ABC a pay channel! Then those people who get a benefit out of it would pay for it.

  176. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It’s a joke show with joke numbers.

    Easy to say, and I knew you would, but it’s reach is quite wide given the extended relationships of many people. Same for the comments section of the Australian.

    Numbers don’t have to be huge to have a strong impact.
    The main thing is for such speech to be freely heard.
    Something the left are trying very hard to stop. Wonder why.

  177. One Nation, under Latham, is very much on the rise again, in a new way.
    Political fragmentation is the outcome of climatic madness, in Australia as in France, Germany etc.

    No.
    It’s the outcome of poor leadership and lack of conviction in the major parties.
    The other trend from left field is the rise of feminist candidates both here and in the USA with climate change policies on their agenda.

  178. Was it Harken sprouting mid 40 degree temps on Tuesday? Admittedly I am not in Ipswich, where it is always 3+ degrees warmer, but in the breezy northern Brisbane suburbs. On Tuesday I volunteered in the canteen for the Metro North Girls’ AFL trials. Temps were forecast to be mid 30s, and I expected the whole thing to be postponed. It was warm, but all the games were played – finishing about 1.40pm, and there didn’t seem to be any lack of enthusiasm for the game (leave out the whole why are girls playing AFL argument). So, 42 degrees, I don’t think so.

  179. zyconoclast

    Jared Kushner Shows There’s a Shady-Yet-Legal Way to Get Rich Kids Into College

    As Daniel Golden reported in his 2006 book, Jared Kushner — son-in-law of Donald Trump, husband of Ivanka Trump, and son of Charles Kushner — was accepted into Harvard shortly after his father pledged $2.5 million to the school. Writing for ProPublica in 2016, Golden noted that Kushner’s high-school teachers didn’t think he was Harvard material:

    “There was no way anybody in the administrative office of the school thought he would on the merits get into Harvard,” a former official at The Frisch School in Paramus, New Jersey, told me. “His GPA did not warrant it, his SAT scores did not warrant it. We thought for sure, there was no way this was going to happen. Then, lo and behold, Jared was accepted. It was a little bit disappointing because there were at the time other kids we thought should really get in on the merits, and they did not.”

    Golden goes on to detail how he uncovered a scheme in which “the rich buy their under-achieving children’s way into elite universities with massive, tax-deductible donations.” He started with a list of the more than 400 members of Harvard’s Committee on University Resources, a group of wealthy donors who were regularly treated like royalty in Cambridge. After poring over records to determine if the children of these donors had eventually gone to Harvard, Golden found that of “the 400-plus tycoons on Harvard’s list — which included people who were childless or too young to have college-age offspring — more than half had sent at least one child to the university.”

    And unlike the scheme that came to light today, it was all legal.

  180. mh

    Muddy, have you recorded vagicide?

    If not, WHY NOT?!

  181. dover_beach

    The silence re the travesty that is the Pell case from the LNP is deafening. There isn’t, so far as I see, a single one of them that has risen to the occasion and simply put the case that he has been convicted without any corroborating evidence, in spite of numerous exculpatory testimonies that easily go beyond reasonable doubt, against a background of a two-decades-long poisoning of the well against Pell, in particular, and the Church more broadly, undertaken by the media, and the political class, in which VicPol instituted an investigation specifically against Pell a year before any specific allegation was made and in circumstances offering a reward.

    Men without chests is a fitting description of them all. Have the Aus Conservatives offered anything in response?

  182. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    it’s reach – no apostrophe, use its.

    Running late now. OMG.

  183. The various leftists I know, and there are quite a few as I was once one of them, in my opinion live in a startlingly enclosed world of self-congratulatory confirmations they offer each other.

    Sounds very much like the echo chamber that is Catallaxy.

  184. Bruce of Newcastle

    Jared Kushner Shows There’s a Shady-Yet-Legal Way to Get Rich Kids Into College

    Classic tactic from NY Mag, try to confect it to be about Trump.
    Fortunately NY Mag is being hit with a very big reality bat.

    First they had an article lurving socialism last week, which got pilloried:

    Socialism and “The “Experts” (11 Mar)

    “New York magazine has produced a list of the “best books to understand socialism” that is so stupefyingly inane that you wonder if this is intended as satire or a really big put on. But no—they are quite earnest about this list, because it was curated by “experts.””

    Stupifyingly inane eh? Ouch. Then in a second round of ouchies the next day:

    Trumpenfreude a magazine’s layoffs (12 Mar)

    CNN reported, “New York Media, the parent company of New York magazine, laid off 16 full-time staffers and an additional 16 freelancers or part-time employees as the publication restructures, chief executive Pam Wasserstein said in a memo to employees on Monday.

    “The cuts represent about 5% of New York Media’s full time staff.”

    Well done NY Mag. You’ve just Trumped yourselves.

  185. bespoke

    It’s a joke show with joke numbers.

    I find myself ageing with that but don’t no why. 😉

  186. Infidel Tiger

    Have the Aus Conservatives offered anything in response?

    Your average Australian Conservative belongs to a weird Christian sect and would be ecstatic to see Pell go down.

    Abbott and Howard have been good despite it probably costing Abbott re-election.

  187. notafan

    And unlike the scheme that came to light today, it was all legal.

    is that really that much different to full fee paying here?

    I don’t have a problem with that, as if they would make the donations without a string attached.

    If their donations were used to expand the number of places available, or fund low income students who could not otherwise afford to attend, then lots of people benefit.

  188. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    But go on imagining that a vast swathe of climate denialism conservatives are going to surge into power, if that’s what keeps you happy.

    It would keep me happy, but I specifically outlined why this would not happen at present.
    Learn to read for comprehension, or is that too much to ask? Why yes, of course it is.

    Just piss off, time waster on this blog. No-one cares what you claim to think.
    Clearly, thinking is something you do very little of. Take your feebleness elsewhere.
    Even Numbers is better.
    At least he recognizes the association of feminism with climate wittering, because feelz.

  189. Harlequin Decline

    A comment in the Oz today under the article about Trump grounding the 737 Max. In summary the commenter Mick advises that with the new configuration for the Max version at some point when the 737 is pitched up and the AoA increases the upper lip of the engine nacelles start generating lift and contribute to increasing the pitch angle. If this happens then control proportionality is lost and a stall becomes more likely.

    The MCAS system was implemented so that in the event of getting to the point when the nacelles generate lift the system starts to command nose down trim on the stabiliser to restore proportionality.

    So perhaps it is possible that a combination of an incorrect AoA sensor reading plus pilots more used to the previous 737 versions handling characteristics and limited training for the Max version plus Boeing/FAA agreeing to omit mention of the MCAS system in the FCOM all played a part in the crashes.

  190. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sounds very much like the echo chamber that is Catallaxy.

    It can’t be an echo chamber Numbers. You’re here. So are Hark the unheralded singing angel and M0nty the fantastic footballer.

  191. stackja

    Severe Thunderstorm Warning
    for HEAVY RAINFALL and LARGE HAILSTONES
    For people in Illawarra and parts of Metropolitan, South Coast, Central Tablelands and Southern Tablelands Forecast Districts.

    Issued at 3:26 pm Thursday, 14 March 2019.
    SEVERE STORMS BRINGING HEAVY RAINFALL TO EASTERN NSW

    29mm was recorded in the 30 minutes to 2.15pm at Murray’s Flat (Wollondilly River) near Goulburn.
    43mm was recorded in the 2 hours to 2pm at Goulburn Water Treatment Works.

    Tim F not comment?

  192. Boambee John

    Notafan

    I suspect that the donations go into the Harvard “endowment” fund, which is apparently valued in the billions.

    The cynical have labelled Harvard as an investment fund that operates a university on the side.

  193. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    For what it’s worth, all four representatives of the Parties present at the J00ish Association forum Hairy and I (non-J3ws) attended indicated they were very concerned indeed about the Pell conviction and offered their reasons concerning the failures it displayed regarding due process and the rule of law. The audience came from a people who well understood how the law could be blinded by vicious social hatreds.

    The audience was also unanimous in a show of hands indicating disagreement with the general theory of anthropogenic climate change, especially in its ‘catastrophic’ iteration, and were also strongly in favour of both coal-powered and nuclear power.

  194. stackja

    Regarding 737 Max. Old time airline pilots knew how to handle an emergency? Sully Hudson comes to mind. Also Smithy, PG Taylor Tasman flight.

  195. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    In moderation, likely the Bird word, even though disguised; try again:

    For what it’s worth, all four representatives of the Parties present at the Rose Bay forum Hairy and I attended indicated they were very concerned indeed about the Pell conviction and offered their reasons concerning the failures it displayed regarding due process and the rule of law. The audience, excepting us, came from a specific local population who well understood how the law could be blinded by vicious social hatreds.

    The audience was also unanimous in a show of hands indicating disagreement with the general theory of anthropogenic climate change, especially in its ‘catastrophic’ iteration, and were also strongly in favour of both coal-powered and nuclear power.

  196. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    All unions should pay income tax and so too should charities and churches. We need a system where everyone contributes, there are no rorts, no exemptions, no welfare, no grants and no concessions.

    — Grace Collier

  197. stackja

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2958135, posted on March 14, 2019 at 4:11 pm

    I believe Get Pell and AGW/coal go together. Nice people but very confused. Also I believe they listen to their ABC.

  198. mh

    I see Beto O’Rourke – real name Robert Francis O’Rourke – has thown his hat in the ring for 2020, confidently saying he was “just born to do this” .

    Probably not the worst of the serious Democrat contenders.

  199. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It can’t be an echo chamber Numbers. You’re here. So are Hark the unheralded singing angel and M0nty the fantastic footballer.

    Sinc is such a sook for tolerance. I guess he’s right. These idiots should be heard and then dismissed.
    A privilege that they do not accord us, by the way. They come here to cause trouble and disrupt, not for information or reasoned debate. The quality of brainpower and repartee is sadly lacking in tedious leftist forums, I’ll grant them that. I think secretly even though they take higher orders from Soros, they like it here. It’s refreshing for them. Goodness, we even have a laugh and joke about with each other. There’s no humor or goodwill in socialism. History shows that.

  200. mh

    Stackja, this one’s for you

    The Bureau of Meteorology warns that, at 2:40 pm, severe thunderstorms were detected on the weather radar. Thunderstorms are moving towards the east to southeast. They are forecast to affect Murphy’s Creek, the area north of Toowoomba, Highfields, Hampton and Haden by 3:20 pm and Gatton, Grantham, Helidon, the area south of Helidon, the area north of Gatton and the area west of Toogoolawah by 3:50 pm.

    Damaging winds and large hailstones are likely.

  201. John Constantine

    Single touch payroll will be the biggest boost to the cash economy for a long time.

    Once an old bloke has a choice between paying a shearer cash for a job, or paying by cheque, then getting fined for stuffing up the paperwork, it will be cash all the way.

    Fining people for not paying cash.

    Obviously we must ban cash money to close the loophole.

  202. Snoopy

    I see Beto O’Rourke – real name Robert Francis O’Rourke – has thown his hat in the ring for 2020, confidently saying he was “just born to do this” .

    Probably not the worst of the serious Democrat contenders.

    I want to see a runoff between the fake injun and the fake Mex. Not gonna happen though.

  203. cohenite

    I see the shit twins, numbers and harken farken, are out and about crowing like the demented aresholes they are about climate change.

    Man made climate change is demented, based as it is on the thought bubble that today’s climate is extreme and rapidly changing. Home work for both these furballs is to research Heinrich and Dansgaard–Oeschger Events.

  204. hzhousewife

    Antipostmodernism
    #2957839, posted on March 14, 2019 at 10:10 am
    Hello. I’m a newbie here.

    Welcome Antipostmodernism.
    When I despair, I find a new “Walkaway” video on youtube because I like hearing ordinary people have a voice.
    This is my best find this week.

  205. Snoopy

    #HeelsUp Harris 2020. Go you good thing!

  206. cohenite

    I see the shit twins, numbers and harken farken, are out and about crowing like the arseholes they are about climate change.

    Man made climate change is nuts, based as it is on the thought bubble that today’s climate is extreme and rapidly changing. Home work for both these furballs is to research Heinrich and Dansgaard–Oeschger Events.

  207. stackja

    2GB Steve Price talks to US correspondent Harley Carnes. HC said regarding Manafort ,NY would indict a ham sandwich.

    New York State chief judge Sol Wachtler was famously quoted by Tom Wolfe in The Bonfire of the Vanities that “a grand jury would ‘indict a ham sandwich,’ if that’s what you wanted.”

  208. cohenite

    Test.

    Heinrich and Dansgaard–Oeschger Events.

  209. notafan

    Harvard’s endowment, the University’s largest financial asset, is a perpetual source of support for the University and its mission of teaching and research. The endowment is made up of more than 13,000 funds; the two largest categories of funds support faculty and students, including professorships and financial aid for undergraduates, graduate fellowships, and student life and activities.

  210. cohenite

    That’s strange, something blocked me several times. Numbers and harken farken are going on about manmade climate change based as it is on the bizarre idea that today’s climate is exceptional and rapidly changing. Homework for them both is to research Heinrich and Dansgaard–Oeschger Events.

  211. stackja

    mh
    #2958144, posted on March 14, 2019 at 4:22 pm

    Thank you!

  212. min

    Re The first Pope John 23; Of course zyconoclast he was only made a priest the day before he became Pope . He was too busy in his previous job ,a pirate.

  213. feelthebern

    The problem with a Dem candidate or the Dem nomination being pro pot is it means that Trump will run on a platform of the opposite.

  214. These idiots should be heard and then dismissed.

    Their idiocy should be encouraged.
    When they open their mouths or typing fingers their arguments (if you will excuse the hyperbowl) damage their cause.

    Leave them alone, don’t respond. Their self-exposed idiocy on the internet is forever.

  215. But Dr Kevin Donnelly, a senior research fellow at the Australian Catholic University, claimed the movement was the product of “biased” academics and failings in education.
    “A lot of these students are barely literate or numerate.”

    What it Kev or you will be the next one on the stake.

  216. Leigh Lowe

    Regarding 737 Max. Old time airline pilots knew how to handle an emergency? Sully Hudson comes to mind. Also Smithy, PG Taylor Tasman flight.

    A couple of thoughts crossed my mind, amd slightly more nuanced than “Yank death traps”.
    Firstly, what is the precedence between human pilots and the automation? Basic flight training in any dual-crew operation is to ALWAYS be clear about who is flying the aeroplane, with very specific language used to signify the taking and relinquishing of control … “handing over/taking over” or “I have control/you have control”.
    Following on from that, if the computer takes over one or more aspects of the control inputs does it tell the human pilots?
    “Bing-bong … MCAS now in control”; or
    “Bing-bong … MCAS now setting throttle to full power”; or
    “Bing-bong … MCAS now setting elevator trim to 5 degrees nose down”; and finally
    “Bing-bong … MCAS relinquishing control in 5 … 4 … 3 … 2 …1”

  217. Old School Conservative

    Michael Daley supports NSW school kids striking over climate change.
    I think a lot of undecided voters will avoid Labor now.
    Encouraging children to run government policy doesn’t wash with many people.

  218. Elle

    Hark! You can be quite amusing. You certainly get attention here.
    No, I’m not jealous 😉
    Angel, darling, my gaydar is very strong.
    Were you on the climate change float at Mardi Gras, highlighting how warm the planet is getting by wearing nothing but a leather thong?
    You can tell me. Absolutely no judgment from moi!
    😘

  219. stackja

    Leigh Lowe
    #2958180, posted on March 14, 2019 at 4:54 pm

    I don’t know about modern aircraft automation. Maybe there is not enough ‘bing bong’? Who is in control? Easy over ride needed?

  220. stackja

    Old School Conservative
    #2958185, posted on March 14, 2019 at 5:00 pm
    Michael Daley supports NSW school kids striking over climate change.
    I think a lot of undecided voters will avoid Labor now.
    Encouraging children to run government policy doesn’t wash with many people.

    Daley best gift from ALP for Glad Bag?

  221. stackja

    2GB listeners reporting outer suburbs storms. BOM said expect rain in Sydney. Outer suburbs, Sydney?

  222. Old Lefty

    But what if the climate strikes lead students to miss out on Safe Schools?

  223. Elle

    Let’s hope it pisses down raining tomorrow on the brainwashed.

  224. stackja

    Old Lefty
    #2958195, posted on March 14, 2019 at 5:08 pm
    But what if the climate strikes lead students to miss out on Safe Schools?

    Safe Schools will replace next weeks’ Enqlish speling lesons.

  225. Myrddin Seren

    I see Beto O’Rourke – real name Robert Francis O’Rourke – has thown his hat in the ring for 2020, confidently saying he was “just born to do this” .

    Hasn’t done a single thing worth mentioning, and yet graces the US voters with a Messiah complex from the Get Go.

  226. Eyrie

    “I don’t know about modern aircraft automation”. Not many do.
    Three most common phrases in the cockpit:
    What is it doing now?
    Why is it doing that?
    What is it going to do next?

    I saw an interview with a USAF General once about the C-17. The USAF didn’t want to pay for a highly sophisticated autopilot system so they just ordered one that will hold various modes but the pilots must set the next one, one at a time. When queried the General said ” they get flight pay and wear wings on their flight suits so they can damn well fly the airplane”.

  227. MatrixTransform

    thefrollickingmole
    … Catcheck

    beautiful.
    Love it!

  228. Myrddin Seren

    “Bing-bong … MCAS says “Die Human Filth, Die !!!!!”

    #RiseoftheMachines

  229. struth

    New Zealand is booming.

    Maybe it has something to do with that socialist government.

    So if New Zealand has a socialist government, with private ownership of business, would you like to inform us ol’ SNIFFY Mc BUTTCRACK what made the National Socialists, yes the Nazis, right wing?

    Secondly, New Zealand is doing well for many reasons, but if the left wing socialist pricks in government there, they’ll end up right where we are.
    Rooted.

    See, they have this thing going on which we had back when Paul Hogan offered the yanks a Shrimp on the Barbie, back in the late 80’s and 90’s.
    A boom in international tourism.
    Does wonders for a country.

    Not the shit we get from China these days, groups staying and spending in Chinese owned accommodations and restaurants and gift shops, but the tourists we used to get, Yanks (your bigoted term) Germans and the like who actually spend money and then leave it and fly home.

    They’re having their boom now.
    A capital T for tourism.
    The socialism is no benefit whatsoever, it’s a noose around the neck gradually tightening.

    But as any one who has been to NZ will tell you, it’s stunning, and the world is waking up to it.

    Many yanks I know have in recent years bypassed Australia and headed straight for NZ.
    Middle Earth.

    They have non compulsory voting, which without disgusting traitorous act by Peters would have given them more Keys style governance, they have less layers of government and bureaucracy, they are much more free than us, they can even buy wine from a delicatessen or anywhere….fancy that.

    No stamp duty, blah blah, the list goes on.
    Their system is such that the left will have a harder time in NZ gaining totalitarian control than here with our compulsory preferential voting and humungous over bearing UN global socialist governments and councils, and greenies will find it harder to argue against water going down hill to generate power.

  230. bespoke

    Elle
    #2958188, posted on March 14, 2019 at 5:01 pm

    What do you friends think of using Gay as a insult?

  231. Elle

    What do you friends think of using Gay as a insult?

    Hi Bespoke.
    If you are alluding to ‘gaydar’, it is not considered an insult.

  232. Eyrie

    Problem with NZ is the weather sucks. Both islands need to be towed 500km north.

  233. Elle

    Not in my circles.
    The PC brigade may have an issue with it.

  234. bespoke

    Don’t really care Elle I just thought the only relevance was to insult that’s all.

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