Thursday Forum: March 14, 2019

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  1. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Vis a vis Julian Burnside’s properties FIVE of them – is he housing asylumseekers in them?

    Said five properties should raise a tidy sum, when death duties are levied on them, shouldn’t they?

  2. notafan

    Walking through her magnificent Hawthorn home, the wife of Julian Burnside, QC, points out the art: Bill Henson, Juan Davila, contemporary Chinese embroidery and a framed relief she made of John Howard drowning on a boat.

    She expressed her outrage through her jewellery.

    durham seeks refuge in her jewellery

  3. notafan

    Walking through her magnificent Hawthorn home, the wife of Julian Burnside, QC, points out the art: Bill Henson, (of course)Juan Davila, contemporary Chinese embroidery and a framed relief she made of John Howard drowning on a boat.

    She expressed her outrage through her j ewellery.

    I tried to link the article but there is a bad word in there

  4. Bruce of Newcastle

    The year 2030 scares me too.
    Hermione may have children of her own.

    She’s not allowed to.
    That would be a crime against Gaia.

  5. cohenite

    bespoke

    #2958850, posted on March 15, 2019 at 9:34 am

    Sh*t just got REAL: Nick Sandmann’s attorneys release NEW video with footage that should TERRIFY CNN (watch)

    Excellent video. The kid looks and acts like a reasonable young bloke.

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    Maybe she’ll transition to male and call herself Harry.

  7. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Excellent video. The kid looks and acts like a reasonable young bloke.

    He’s far more patient then me – I’d have wrapped the “Native American’s” drum around his ears.

  8. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Numbers mentioned Vietnam. Skol!
    We need a Cat drinking game. ‘Hairy’ is another skol trigger.

    As usual, Nick can’t discriminate between a troll and a mostly serious commenter here.

    Hairy is ten times the man you’ll ever be, Nick. He’s much more fun too. Worth sharing.

  9. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A teenage jihadi bride who fled Melbourne to fight with the Islamic State in Syria boasted at the height of the bloodthirsty group’s reign of terror about how she would only come home to Australia when it was ‘part of the Islamic State’.

    Now, four years later, with her husband dead and the so-called Islamic caliphate in ruins, Zehra Duman, 24, is begging to come home, claiming her two children have the right to be treated like any other ‘normal kids’ in Australia.

    But in 2015, ISIS fanatic Duman, then just 19 and married to a terrorist known as ‘the Playboy jihadi’, was so sure of the Islamic State’s success she directly threatened Australia – and a Daily Mail Australia reporter’s family.

    Duman was a key ISIS recruiter on social media, posing with machine guns and on the bonnets of luxury cars stolen by the terrorists as she urged other Westerners to leave civilisation and join their murderous and twisted Islamic regime.

    From the Daily Mail, on the subject of THAT jihadi bride.

  10. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Maybe she’ll transition to male and call herself Harry.

    Doubt it, Bruce. She’s well locked in to the ‘you go girl’ stakes.
    But there’s always hope. She may go lezzo at university.
    She’s got the right screwed-up lefty background.

  11. amortiser

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2958894, posted on March 15, 2019 at 10:35 am
    Excellent video. The kid looks and acts like a reasonable young bloke.

    He’s far more patient then me – I’d have wrapped the “Native American’s” drum around his ears.

    That would have landed him an assault charge. He was very patient and for his patience and forebearance he will likely get a multi million dollar payday.

    Now I’m off to get in the faces of students at a climate change rally /sarc

  12. None

    I just love how stupid these jihadis are. They’re posing on the bonnet of luxury cars which of course are built by the west which of course they want to destroy and which of course will then mean they will have no more luxury cars. It is true: all jihadis are weapon grade stupid. I have never used this term before in my entire life but Zehra Duman surely qualifies for the epithet “dumb fuck”.

  13. Enoch Root

    I just heard on ABC Radio (sorry, it’s on at work, gave up on changing that a while ago) that kids are going on “climate strike” to demand action from politicians…

    Are we really there? We reached a point where other people’s kids are demanding something from grown ups in general? I might be OK for your kidsto demand something from you… At least, that’s not my business… But now they are raising up and demand something from other grown ups? What next? Kids Union?

    I don’t like when a 15 year old girl, who certainly has seen nothing of life yet, think that a better use of her time is to recite words that are not even hers instead of learning what that means in the first place.

    Guess what kids: first, stop mining now will do nothing to help avoid “climate change”. Not here. Not anywhere. If we had a global stand down on mining it wold do absolutely nothing to avoid “climate change”. Now, for a minute, let’s just say that we actually can do something to avoid “climate change”, don’t you think that that something would just be remarkably complex and unprecedented in human history? Good luck trying to strike your way out of climate change kids…

    Until a time when a 15 year old girl can actually provide meaningful help instead of brilliantly void rallying speeches which I bet were not even written by her, the rest of us should do nothing different than ignore it.

  14. C.L.

    Britain told:

    ‘Hold new referendum for Brexit delay’

    EU leaders will reportedly allow Theresa May to delay Brexit if she agrees on a second referendum or softens her withdrawal deal.

    As I always say, Britain is no match for Germany.

  15. C.L.

    I do hope no ALP leaders are going to be loitering around the child climate marchers.

  16. None

    Clive Palmer’s party has been letterbox in my neighborhood. Just been to the third leaflet the other week. I must be surrounded by lots of dumb people.

  17. Atoms:

    I know Doomlord abhors violence, but any chance we could turkey slap Harken to death with Numbers?

    Youse guys do realise that Harken, Numbers, and Monty are in a contest to see how many scalps they can garner?
    (1 reply = 1 scalp.)

  18. Overburdened

    None
    Cognitive dissonance is not a thing in the world of fuckwittery
    Eg
    Anarchists using social media
    Gangs dressing and acting homogeneously and declaring that they are non conformists
    Self declared socialists amassing fortunes
    The deplorable julianburnside. The greenies. Enough said.
    Social parasites bemoaning big business and the lack of care by society towards them while driving cars, drinking piss, smokin durries and wearing designer apparel purchased with money from the ever reliable taxpayer.

    I could go on.
    .

  19. Seco

    So colleague of mine who went to the Danny Bhoy show said it was very funny, yes a bit political but it’s she’s not really across climate change and politics and it’s good to learn about it whilst getting a laugh.

  20. feelthebern

    Every day is competition.
    Our northern friends understand that.
    We used to here in Oz.
    This is why there are approx. 2mill of our best & brightest overseas working their rings off.
    If it wasn’t for the weather & the food, Australia would resemble Mad Max.

  21. Seco

    I said that I doubt we learned anything beyond Danny being someone who doesn’t practice what he preaches (e.g. air travel, plastic water bottles).

  22. Confused Old Misfit

    So colleague of mine who went to the Danny Bhoy show said it was very funny, yes a bit political but it’s she’s not really across climate change and politics and it’s good to learn about it whilst getting a laugh.

    Is her IQ above 82?

  23. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Youse guys do realise that Harken, Numbers, and Monty are in a contest to see how many scalps they can garner?

    I thought Harken was the love child of Numbers Bob, and Grogarly?

  24. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Cognitive dissonance is not a thing in the world of fuckwittery

    Well said, with examples.
    Cats can no doubt supply more of them.

  25. duncanm

    In case anyone needs reminding.. here are your climate pawns.

    The Children of the Revolution

  26. Nick

    Hairy is ten times the man you’ll ever be, Nick.

    Maybe he needs to lose some weight then . Skol.

  27. Confused Old Misfit

    How the 1% live.

    I’m so f’ing rich I don’t have to even think!

  28. Seco

    Is her IQ above 82?

    Pretty clever (works in the finance department – I’m a non uni edumacated dill), lovely, but clearly like most people I know completely clueless about the world and history.

  29. Confused Old Misfit

    Pretty clever (works in the finance department

    Could be a drone.
    If the IQ is 83 or above there is an outside chance that she might be re-trainable.

  30. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oh noes. Nick’s started drinking already.
    Hairy, Hairy, Hairy, Hairy, Hairy, Hairy.
    C’mon boy, skol. Give your liver another dose, you little alcoholic skinny.

    I’m so f’ing rich I don’t have to even think!

    Yes, what a cluttered nightmare of a place. Who could live with that artwork, for a start?
    She needs a new kitchen too; Mrs. Burnside, integrate your fridge.

  31. 1735099

    When I was a year two student in Carmilla, we were all bussed over bad roads (at great expense and two days out of school) to see the Queen in Mackay. I was more impressed by the swb Land Rover than by the pale skinned Pom with white gloves who drove past.
    I was not impressed by the bad case of peeling sunburn I ended up with following three hours in the sun waiting.
    That was probably the beginning of my loathing of British royalty. At that age, you’re pragmatic, just as pragmatic as the kids protesting lack of action on climate change today.
    Brainwashing about the relevance of the monarchy was par for the course back then.

  32. notafan

    Just one harrowing life experience after another

  33. Cassie of Sydney

    “Nick
    #2958925, posted on March 15, 2019 at 11:14 am
    Hairy is ten times the man you’ll ever be, Nick.

    Maybe he needs to lose some weight then . Skol.”

    When do you reach puberty?

  34. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Mao’s China and its cultural revolution of the youth. Lest we forget, indeed.
    The novel ‘Wild Swans’ has a wonderful depiction of what it was like to be a teenage girl, in love with Mao, and wanting nothing more in life than to join in the one’s peers in adulation and mayhem for the cause.

  35. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    errata – with one’s peers

  36. Roger

    In case anyone needs reminding.. here are your climate pawns.

    A very apt analogy; just as Mao used children to bolster his waning grip on power, so the Greens now use children to boost their otherwise dismal electoral profile.

  37. Snoopy

    Just one harrowing life experience after another

    It would have broken a lesser man. Such resilience.

  38. stackja

    Veteran Details
    Name WHITTAKER, Robert John
    Service Australian Army
    Service Number 1735099
    Date of Birth 05 Jun 1947
    Place of Birth TOOWOOMBA QLD AUSTRALIA
    Rank Private
    National Service Yes
    Corps Royal Australian Infantry Corps
    Honours None for display
    Unit History
    Unit Name Start Date End Date
    7th Battalion, The Royal Australian Regiment 16 Feb 1970 10 Dec 1970

  39. amortiser

    Harken:

    What’s the science consensus? Explain it to us “deniers etc”.

  40. notafan

    Now I have PTSD being reminded that I had to go and see Princess Anne and Prince Charles at the MCG when I was in primary school, we had to wear borrowed blazers and travel by train.

    It was hellish.

  41. Confused Old Misfit

    Peer group pressure will be something that the denizens of this blog will well remember I am sure.
    Some resisted, some conceded.
    I think the difference now is that the subjects to be lauded or rejected are no longer tacitly suggested and taken up by the teen age group but are surreptitiously, and sometimes not so surreptitiously introduced by adults.
    J’accuse les enseignantes.

  42. Boambee John

    duncanm
    #2958919, posted on March 15, 2019 at 11:12 am
    One of Burnside’s abodes. How the 1% live.

    How gauche can one person get?

    She needs major help to de-clutter. It is more like a museum than a home.

  43. struth

    Brainwashing about the relevance of the monarchy was par for the course back then.

    She is still the Queen of Australia.
    She was back then.
    Kiungs and Queens since 1901.
    That’s the country you are living in SNIFF Mc FUCKSTICK.
    Learning about your country, and who our royalty are isn’t brainwashing.
    It’s education.

    Brainwashing requires relieving people of facts so as to make change.
    Describing a factual situation is called education.

    Just how fucking thick are you?

  44. stackja

    The left elite always live in luxury. They don’t need to justify their lifestyle. MSM don’t criticise their own.

  45. notafan

    Reminded me a bit of the Duke of Alba’s place in Seville, but that is hundreds of years of collecting, she’s managed to achieve a similar look after only 20 years. Work!

    There was a room full of the now deceased dowager duchess’ s personal art too.

    So much in common.

    We have Labor Royalty and now there is Green Royalty too.

  46. struth

    Still refuse to answer the question SNIFFY?

    If you believe New Zealand is a socialist country, and it has private business ownership, what made the Nazis right wing in our brainwashed mind?

    What made the National SOCIALISTS right wing SNIFFY?

  47. Muddy

    I could just stand invisibly in your house and observe this myself, but there’s always the danger of seeing someone nude, and it would be offputting.

    I don’t normally respond to this one, but the above comment is sailing very close to the wind in a legal sense. We’ve had this issue previously about the definition of stalking online.

  48. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    No-one wanders around nude in our house, Harken, when children or others are present. We run a civilized establishment. Nor do visitors drop in from heaven, so you would not be welcome. Nor is your prying into our children’s upbringing and beliefs welcome. They are diverse individuals and respected as such. We have provided a good home and parental guidance, but not indoctrination. All four of our children appreciate this.

  49. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Agree, thank you Muddy.

  50. Bruce of Newcastle

    Leaving the shopping centre just now the large SUV in front had a sticker on back window “Action on Climate Change Now!” Betcha the kids are on strike today.

  51. struth

    You know the big picture. If you don’t, perhaps you should go read some of the posters being held up on the streets by school kids right now.

    While you are gaining all that knowledge from 12 year olds, Fharken, maybe you could ask them what an isotope is.
    Barometric pressure, maybe.
    Where China is on a map, or indeed just ask them how their makkas burgers are made.
    Maybe one could do your tax return for you.

  52. notafan

    Dan Andrews would bar visitors too, if he could.

    I din’t realize they were preventing Cardinal Pell from saying Mass

    So as of early March, the cardinal is in jail, in solitary confinement, allowed a few visitors a week, as well as a half-dozen books and magazines at a time. But he is not permitted to say Mass in his cell, on the bizarre grounds that prisoners are not allowed to lead religious services in prisons in the State of Victoria and wine is not permitted in cells.

    solitary confinement denied the right to say Mass cruel and unusual Weigel at First things

  53. struth

    Hark! struth – can you put some effort into not sounding immature and childish with that name calling bits?

    Thanks.

    Apparently children are who you listen to.
    Just trying to help you learn.
    Do your bit for climate and stop charging up that computer , tablet or phone made with scary metals that you guys don’t like from mining.

    You climate terrified space cadet.
    You hypocritical climate terrified space cadet.

  54. stackja

    Dear ,

    While thousands of her classmates across the country will be skipping school to join green extremists in protesting for a ‘100 % renewable energy target’ that will destroy the electricity market and drive up your family’s power bills, our very own Australian Taxpayers’ Alliance Summer Intern Joanne Tran won’t be joining them.

    Featured in this morning’s Daily Telegraph, Joanne is part of a growing generation of high schoolers and young university students who are waking up to the lies peddled by wealthy, corporate-funded groups like GetUp!:

    “Well, consider this an open letter to both my schoolmates and the organisers of the protest about why I won’t be missing out on a day of my education to join them…

    …these activists describe the very projects that built our nation, and which millions of us directly or indirectly depend on for our livelihoods, as “wrecking projects”.

    They do this while asking children to opt out of the education that they once benefited from, in order to protest the very things that helped create it.”

    Read more HERE.
    Student Joanne Tran: Climate change strike students need to learn basic economics
    Joanne Tran, The Daily Telegraph
    March 14, 2019 6:52pm
    Subscriber only
    Hundreds of thousands of school students around the world will be skipping school on Friday as part of a protest organised by activist group School Strike for Climate.

    One of the group’s many justifications for encouraging minors to skip school is to “save our future from climate-wrecking projects”.

    Many of the students who are being targeted by the group to not attend school are from Australia. Many are my classmates.

    Reading widely outside her school curriculum after developing an interest in Economics, Joanne’s passion for the free market principles that made this country great were enhanced by her involvement with the youth development programs at the Australian Taxpayers’ Alliance.

    Joanne’s involvement with the ATA began with a seminar on the basics of classical liberalism delivered by the Honourable Peter Phelps MLC at our office in Sydney. Joanne was soon inspired to join the many young people who intern at the Australian Taxpayers’ Alliance every year.

    Our one-of-a-kind internship program bestows school and university students with strong skills in written and verbal communication and research, as well as exposure to free market principles and the intellectual ammunition needed to take on those who threaten this country’s prosperity.

    After developing their skills, interns like Joanne have the opportunity to get published in national and international media outlets including The Spectator, Libertyworks and even leading newspapers like The Daily Telegraph, as they continue to grow as effective advocates for liberty.

  55. None

    I agree Muddy. Harken needs to back off.

  56. Confused Old Misfit

    read some of the posters being held up on the streets by school kids right now.

    When they can explain how a lead pencil is made, when they can participate intelligently in a discussion, without resorting to name calling, ad hominems, contradictions, arguments from authority and shouted interruptions then they may be accorded the courtesy of inclusion.

  57. Bruce of Newcastle

    I hope Hark buys carbon offsets for his respiration. And his flatulence.

  58. bespoke

    You know the big picture. If you don’t, perhaps you should go read some of the posters being held up on the streets by school kids right now.

    Hark may well be parodying the protesters on YouTube saying the same thing. “Stop climate change” and “Trump Hitler” what else do you need.

  59. None

    Overburdened.
    You have a point.
    Many, in fact.

  60. stackja

    notafan
    #2958969, posted on March 15, 2019 at 11:59 am

    Pell probably can say Mass even if not formally so. Many priests imprisoned by other leftist regimes still said Mass.

  61. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Harken, who says Hairy is short? You are getting confused – again.
    I am the short one. Do keep up.

  62. struth

    SNIFFY Mc SHAVINGMIRROR always has a few minutes off to avoid questions he can’t answer.
    Then comes back on another subject..

    Amazing isn’t it.

    He claims that to suggest the Nazis were left wing would have had you laughed out of Uni back in the day, but he can’t even explain what made them right wing.

    There is no degree in integrity, or intelligence.

  63. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Pell probably can say Mass even if not formally so. Many priests imprisoned by other leftist regimes still said Mass.

    I don’t think they can forbid you to pray, nor indeed forbid you to pray for them too.

    But this man is a Cardinal, and a personal mass should not be beyond their gift. Just meanness.

  64. notafan

    The other thing that is striking about the Burnside Markham home and it’s extraordinary collects of ‘stuff’ is the intense materialism that drives it, when Greens demand others live simply and not have ‘stuff’ their home is gobsmackingly full of ‘stuff’ and boastfully ‘stuff’ imported from all over the world, especially Communist China.

    Did Burnside/Markham make sure their Chinese art was Fair Trade?

    I doubt it.

    To stand up and claim to be a champion of the climate when your reality is the most outstanding example of lavish spending and materiel possessions I have seen, gosh Trump’s pad looks empty in comparison.

    I hope the voters of Kooyong get to see how green was my mansion.

  65. None

    Harken has an unusual interest in other people’s children. The AFP has an unusual interest in people like Harken. Don’t respond to him/her Lizzy. They are just baiting you. Ignore the troll.

  66. Percy Popinjay

    Perfesser Davidson, I’d like to nominate this as a liberty quote:

    Why are the people who considered Bill Clinton a hero lecturing me about sexism? How can the party that demands racial quotas denounce other people as racist?

    Tucker Carlson

  67. Roger

    Pell probably can say Mass even if not formally so.

    Not without wine.

    But he can pray the Daily Office and, presumably, receive communion from the RC prison chaplain.

  68. None

    It’s a little bit unusual to say mass on your own. In the eastern Rite there must be at least another person present. No one can stop him praying in his cell. And if this story is true then Victorian authorities need to explain why there are Muslim gatherings for prayers in prisons. Who leads those?

  69. Percy Popinjay

    That entire Carlson monologue is laden with quality quotes.

    Video and transcript available here:

    We will never bow to the mob. Ever. No matter what.

  70. None

    You need to also remember that many countries in the world have never heard of wine or don’t have it. Try telling someone up in the Highlands of New Guinea that they must have wine for mass. Pell knows this I’m sure. He will find a way.

  71. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hark! Hmm. lizzie, you comment indicates that the kids take the “let’s not bring this topic up” approach.

    My comment could equally as well indicate that Triggs might have a heart attack around our kitchen table. Thankfully, you will never know, Harken. Quit prying about children.
    There are plenty out on the streets today who would suit your salacious interest.

  72. None

    Grow some pubes, Harken. Bye now.

  73. Roger

    The other thing that is striking about the Burnside Markham home and it’s extraordinary collects of ‘stuff’ is the intense materialism that drives it…

    “We may see the small Value God has for Riches, by the People he gives them to.”

    Alexander Pope

  74. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Don’t respond to him/her Lizzy

    Thanks, None. I have said all I am going to say on the matter.

  75. None

    The other thing that is striking about the Burnside Markham home and it’s extraordinary collects of ‘stuff’ is the intense materialism that drives it…

    indeed. And something tells me there is very little spark joy in that household either.

  76. Baldrick

    Please Don’t Feed The Trolls.

  77. Tinta:

    Vis a vis Julian Burnside’s properties FIVE of them – is he housing asylumseekers in them?

    …and if he is, how much is he charging the Australian government for them?

  78. notafan

    I did know wine was not essential. it is the bloody-mindedness of not allowing him to have a small quantity of sacramental wine that is the feature here.

  79. struth

    Leftism is hypocrisy.

    Fharken back away from the western invented, heavy metal mined coal powered computer.
    Take of your clothes as they are made with the use of heavy industry, and that powered by coal, especially if they are made in China, and go fuck yourself.

    You have been unwilling and unable to argue for man made Climate Change, dutifully ignore the realities of coal fired power in other countries like China and the politics behind this scam, and really just come here and make a goat of yourself.
    If you remember we tried to teach you, to save you from your fear, but you would have none of it.

    So with such an immature, virtue signalling knob jockey such as yourself, the name calling is actually quite tame, and all you are worthy of.

  80. notafan

    Just to be clear

    Burnside has ten properties, 3 flats in Sydney, two in Melbourne 2 houses in Hawthorn, one in Clifton hill, one at the beach and one in rural Victoria.

  81. Fat Tony

    Harken Now = Trollius Faecus

    FUCK OFF YOU PERVERT

  82. notafan

    The Israeli army attacked Thursday overnight targets in Gaza Strip, hours after two rockets were fired at Tel Aviv from Gaza, a first since Israel’s 2014 campaign in Gaza.

    According to the Israeli military, the Iron Dome missile defense system was activated. It is assumed that the rockets landed in open areas due to the fact that no damage or injuries were reported.

    The last time rocket alerts were activated in Tel Aviv was two years ago, in what turned out to be a false alarm. The flare-up comes three weeks before Israel holds its general election.

    Israeli Army Strikes in Gaza After Rockets Target Tel Aviv in First Since 2014 War

  83. None

    It’d be nice if there was a huge dump of rain and hail on the school kids this afternoon.

  84. bespoke

    Muddy
    #2958961, posted on March 15, 2019 at 11:50 am

    ==

    I could just stand invisibly in your house and observe this myself, but there’s always the danger of seeing someone nude, and it would be offputting.

    I don’t normally respond to this one, but the above comment is sailing very close to the wind in a legal sense. We’ve had this issue previously about the definition of stalking online.

    I disagree, It looks mild compared to the accusations in the past and how its stalking, is he following her to other blogs? You’ll give numbers some valid claim of being stalked.

  85. struth

    It’d be nice if there was a huge dump of rain and hail on the school kids this afternoon.

    One or two Flanneries would probably do it.

  86. Mother Lode

    The year 2030 scares me too.
    Hermione may have children of her own.

    For some reason the image that comes to mind is of blooming fungal spores in a petri dish.

    Might seem a little far fetched – until you consider IQs.

  87. None

    If Israel flattened Gaza and wiped out every single person in that place I would not bat an eyelid. That is no different to what Assan has done in Syria in the past. Raise your ugly head you just obliterate a couple of villages – men, women, children the lot. Peace for.decades.

  88. notafan

    A once-off tax of 2.8% of the capital value of the land we took. The proceeds would amount to billions of dollars. Use that money specifically to fund programmes designed – genuinely designed – to repair the damage we did to members of the oldest, longest-lasting civilization on earth.

    You first Julian, no need to wait until someone twists your arm.

    So: when governments at any level (from local to Federal) put out a request for tender, they could include this question: “What does your company do to support the Arts?”. It’s a fair bet that a lot of companies would want to be able to give a good answer and might just start supporting the Arts creatively – and generously.

    Did I mention my wife was an artist?

    Julian thinks

  89. Roger

    I did know wine was not essential.

    The RC church used to regard the Mass without wine as not a sacrifice and therefore not permissible.

    Surely they haven’t changed on that?

  90. Boambee John

    Lizzie

    I suggest that you do not respond in any manner to future comments by Barken Mad, no matter how provocative they might be, no matter how inane they might be.

    I suspect that he is trying to provoke you into giving details that would enable him to dox you or others in your immediate family.

    Barken Mad

    Fvck off troll.

  91. John Brumble

    Harkelry –
    One of the issues reasonable people might have with many of the climate change catastropharians is the fundamental dishonesty they display.
    Is climate science perfect? Of course it’s not- the climate is a very complex system that we don’t fully understand. Does that mean we don’t understand it enough to see that we can be pretty confident that there is some change due to human involvement? No, of course not – indeed everyone will agree that there is at least some urban heat island effect. And while opinions may differ as to whether it contributes all, some or very little to the overall change, the face of the matter is that every agrees that humans influence climate on some scale.
    Because it’s not perfect, there will be questions asked. And because humans are imperfect, some of those questions will have answers you don’t like. For example, you and your ilk behave as if climate scientists are as pure as the driven snow, when we ALL know that with that much money floating around there must be graft and corruption, and people out to line their own pockets rather than working towards the truth.
    Does that mean that there is no danger from climate change? No, of course not.
    But while you and people like you prance about and carry on as if you and your ideals are perfectly right and there can be no question, that your solutions to the issues climate change raise are the only possible solutions, and while you troll and caper about the place in the interests of attention seeking and self-importance instead of the betterment of the planet, you are doing more damage to the cause than any closed-eyes, fingers in ears “denier” ever could.
    That’s the thing though. You don’t care about climate change. You just care about the side. You and people like you couldn’t care if the world burned in fire, so long as you got your attention, your government hand-outs, and your kick-backs from inner-city vanity projects. If you did, you’d all be up in arms about people who profess to believe in climate change who fly around the world instead of use “skype”, who own river-front property despite the rising sea-levels and whose only single contribution to saving the planet is finding a way to spend other people’s money to do it.
    You massive, dishonest trolling clown of a hypocrite.

  92. notafan

    No doubt Roger but priests said mass in Dachau without it

  93. struth

    After the protest, they’ll all head to the Nearest Makkas and send photos of themselves from their Iphones.

    ou couldn’t make this shit up .
    This is child abuse by the left in our education system.

    Heads should roll, but what’s the likely hood of that.

    We are going to witness the largest virtue signal by spoilt hypocritical western children we will see.

    They are being made to look like the precocious dumbed down moons the are.
    This, to me, this “Parade of the Precocious” is nothing short of child abuse.

  94. struth

    morons not moon….r button.

  95. None

    Well Mother Lode I was just thinking she’s breeding the next lot on her face. It’s a cruel thing because no one can help acne but it just occurred to me that not only are the majority of these protesters stupid girls they’re also stupid unattracticve girls (who can’t spell). This is what happens when you raise a generation of children on a diet of self-esteem and identity politics. They actually end up doubting their own self worth or else judging their self worth by the shallow dimensions of Formica. So these girls are not going to be your Instagram models which is how they judge self worth and virtue So they’re easily persuaded to follow such nonsense in pursuit of there 15 minutes of “please sir someone noticed that I am there.” In their tiny little minds they have realised albeit subconsciously that their lives don’t matter in the ideology which they’ve been fed; they are just slaves to Gaia and maybe, maybe if they scream and shout long enough and maybe sacrifice a few other people Gaia might notice.

  96. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Who’s been smitten?

  97. Tintarella di Luna

    Tinta:

    Vis a vis Julian Burnside’s properties FIVE of them – is he housing asylumseekers in them?

    …and if he is, how much is he charging the Australian government for them? Yes Winston a very i teresting question I’ve just come out if the Court if Appeal here in the Big Smoke to cheery light drizzle went to St Mary’s to pray for a deluge and the Cathedral is within spitting distance of Hyde Park where the kiddies will be gathering shortly to change the world Send her down Hughie

  98. Roger

    After the protest, they’ll all head to the Nearest Makkas and send photos of themselves from their Iphones.

    Iphones containing cobalt likely mined by children their age or younger in the DRC.

  99. Fat Tony

    Muddy
    #2959030, posted on March 15, 2019 at 12:50 pm
    Thank you, Professor.

    +1

  100. Boambee John

    Sinclair Davidson
    #2959023, posted on March 15, 2019 at 12:46 pm
    smite

    Thank you oh mighty Doomlord.

  101. bespoke

    Millennial was smited the other day and now ?

  102. John Brumble

    ZK2A – based on the timing, I’d say either me or Harkelry. If you’re seeing this, then it’s not me.

  103. Whenever I get a bit depressed about the world and the Greenies etc, I go to Utube for trees being turned into wood and sawdust.
    Somehow it makes me feel a bit better.


  104. Turnip

    Many school children today at F1 climate change event in Melb9.

  105. notafan

    grig was born to be smote

  106. None

    The Catholic Church withheld consecrated wine from the laity for centuries. Some parishes still do that. You can’t sit there and complain about no wine now. Either Christ is fully present in each and both elements or he is not. Bread should be sufficient. Note that Pell has not complained; it is other people who are complaining about this.

  107. Elle

    My office is near Hyde Park. Am going to take a walk soon to see what the turnout is like.

  108. None

    Iphones containing cobalt likely mined by children their age or younger in the DRC.

    Word.

  109. Tom

    Not you, John B. You just happened to be on the Cat’s promenade when our junior troll stepped into a rabbit trap. Calli, could you clean up the mess with your high-pressure hose? Ta.

  110. Mark A

    #2959037, posted on March 15, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    Whenever I get a bit depressed about the world and the Greenies etc, I go to Utube for trees being turned into wood and sawdust.

    I liked your steam driven sawmills, the chainsaw bits are just wankery.

  111. Here’s another one:
    Best part is at 1.15 min, where the billion year old trees in the rainforest meet the mighty chainsaw.*
    *there may be a slight discrepancy in real vs poetic imagery ages, here.


  112. Fat Tony

    None
    #2959040, posted on March 15, 2019 at 12:58 pm
    The Catholic Church withheld consecrated wine from the laity for centuries. Some parishes still do that. You can’t sit there and complain about no wine now. Either Christ is fully present in each and both elements or he is not. Bread should be sufficient. Note that Pell has not complained; it is other people who are complaining about this.</

    It is not wine that is being consumed, but the Blood of Christ. Would not water suffice?

  113. 1735099

    Reports of someone with a semi-auto shooting up a mosque in Christchurch.

  114. notafan

    I can complain about petty bureaucrats preventing Carindal Pell from saying the mass, how do you know that is not a burden for him?

    As for denying laity wine, no-one has a problem with either/both to receive the Eucharist, and yes the blood of Christ is still rarely an option for receiving.

    It is being prevented from saying the mass that is the problem.

    Roger is right though generally speaking both elements are required for the Eucharist to be valid, though a canon lawyer I am not.

  115. Boambee John

    Can a Melbourne Cat conveniently located provide an estimate for the number of school aged persons at both the F1 practice and the climate march?

    Comparison could be interesting.

  116. calli

    From morn
    To noon he fell, from noon to dewy eve,
    A summer’s day; and with the setting sun
    Dropped from the zenith like a falling star.

    Well smited, Doomy.

    It was getting very, very creepy.

  117. Gab

    Who was smite? Was it Hark?

  118. calli

    Grig, nota? I imagined Steve of Brisbane. The fascination with Lizzie and the sexual innuendo and all.

    They are Legion, however.

  119. Baldrick

    Alas poor Harken. Gone to the big forgettery in the sky.

  120. Elle

    He had a creepy obsession with Lizzie.

  121. duncanm

    Burnside sure is doing it tough

    Sarah should pop down there – she might be able to see the whales, get the taxpayer to cough up the rental, and Burnside can pretend its an investment property.

    $win $win $win

  122. None

    I’m very certain that the Catholic Church which has had innumerable chaplains surf prisoners for centuries understands the Victorian penal system and what is allowed and what is not allowed and they would have found a way through this. I say it again Cardinal Pell is not the one who has complained; others have made song and dance about it.

  123. ZK2A:

    I thought Harken was the love child of Numbers Bob, and Grogarly?

    Jeezus, mate. I inadvertently thought of the coupling process.
    Thank god there was a cat next to me to vomit on.

  124. Leigh Lowe

    Who has been smitten?
    Smoted?
    Smited?
    Whatever the past tense of smote is.

  125. notafan

    Grig tends to go to nasty very quickly, rather than lightish creepery so you are probably right, Calli,

    Grig would have gone for broke saying nasty stuff about Cardinal Pell too, I don’t recall him being obsessed with climate either

  126. calli

    Only two Stooges left. Curly will be replaced in due course by Shemp.

  127. Duncannm:
    The Burnside residence. A cluttered, gauche example of an ego driven lack of good taste.

  128. notafan

    I don’t get your angle None

    Others shouldn’t complain about the treatment of Cardinal Pell because?

    On that basis we should say nothing about any other aspect of his persecution either.

  129. calli

    It must be horrible running a blog that no one visits. The loneliness. The tedium. The utter emptyness of all that effort.

    Coming here gives a little human interaction at least. I understand, boys.

  130. None

    Air New Zealand mosque shootings seemed very very serious and I fear that baby brain Bucky Beaver is not up to the task of keeping things calm. This is either a nutter or some sort of inter Muslim stoush.

  131. Percy Popinjay

    Well, well, well, Julius Sideburn QC AO is the reluctant owner of ten modest properties, eh, bro?

    Perhaps we need to coin a neologism for Burnsidean levels of hypocrisy. The unctuous little toad is off the scale.

  132. notafan

    Primary property in Hawthorn is on a block a little under 3000 sqaare metres, depending on exactly where in Hawthorn that is worth $4000 to $5000 per square metre.

    Do the math.

  133. C.L.

    I thought they had gun control in New Zealand.

  134. None

    Notafan I doubt that this is a new or unique situation. Other priests have been jailed before and priests also minister to prisoners so the Catholic Church could not have been caught off guard by the restrictions placed on Pell as they are restrictions placed on all prisoners. No prisoner can lead a religious service
    Frankly given a good lot of prisoners are Muslim and a lot of radicalisation takes place in prison I would certainly be supporting that restriction. If Pell complains then I would be the first to support him because I know he is a moderate man and not demanding and one who has a very strong sense of what is just. Pell did not ask for bail he withdrew the application and had negotiated certain allowances such as being able to have his walking frame with him etc. He went to jail voluntarily and knowing very well what was before him. That would not make it easy because incarceration is really a horrid and shocking experience but please don’t make a song and dance out of something he has not complained about. There is nothing stopping prison chaplains from bringing communion to him.

  135. Percy Popinjay

    The Burnside residence. A cluttered, gauche example of an ego driven lack of good taste.

    Now now, Winston. You’re beginning to sound like one of those tiresome uncultured lower class little people that Julius observes with exquisite disdain as he passes by in the back seat of the Roller.

  136. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Perhaps we need to coin a neologism for Burnsidean levels of hypocrisy. The unctuous little toad is off the scale.

    Well said.

  137. None

    Shhh C.L. I’m just kind of hoping these were small mosques and prayers were over i.e. empty and nobody hurt

  138. Confused Old Misfit

    When I was an altar boy in the Anglican Church of Canada the priest and one other were the minimum required for communion to be celebrated. This was High Church.
    R.C.’s had the same requirement.
    However, things may have changed.

  139. Interesting indeed that Court of Appeals in Victoria tossed out a conviction of an Ex Christian Brother who was spent 11 months in jail for alleged abuse. Ordered to be released as soon as possible.

  140. None

    I’m loving the Burnside pile on. Exquisitely expressed.

  141. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Shhh C.L. I’m just kind of hoping these were small mosques and prayers were over i.e. empty and nobody hurt

    Gunman on the loose, several casualties.

  142. C.L.

    Let’s not rush to judgement …

    New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has condemned a physical attack on Climate Change Minister James Shaw, saying the accessibility of politicians in her country ought not to be taken for granted.

    Mr Shaw, the Green Party leader, was walking alone to the Parliament in Wellington on Thursday when a man approached him and punched him in the face, police said.

    ABC.

  143. Percy Popinjay

    Presumably this was uttered by a Kiwi, so a bucket of salt might be needed:

    ‘I saw dead people everywhere’

    A witness says many people have been killed in the mass shooting. Police have not described the scale of the shooting but urged people in central Christchurch to stay indoors

    16 minutes ago from the Oz, which is running a ghoul blog of the incident.

  144. None

    Not surprised to hear that misfit as the anglicans drew a lot from the Eastern Rite. Hmm I might look up what the deal is with Latin rite Catholics.

  145. Leigh Lowe

    Tragedy!
    The Christchurch Kiddie Klimate rally has been uninterrupted.

  146. None

    One report has 300 inside a Christchurch mosque with about 30 dead or injured.

  147. struth

    Have ze Climate kinder started zeir march yet?

    Surely they are just gathering to protest, a long walk without getting a lift from mum would not be on.

    The Parade of the Precocious.

    The “Victims of UN/Australian education”

    “Mum can you drop me down to the protest please?”

  148. Confused Old Misfit

    Yes None.
    The High Church Anglicans only dropped papal infallibility, the veneration of the Virgin Mary and a few other fripperies like the use of Latin in the service (a pity really). Otherwise, you would have been quite at home in All Saints Cathedral.
    Of course my experience therein dates back somewhat more than half a century.

  149. Leigh Lowe

    I wonder.
    If the Christchurch victims are all Moozleys and the perp(s) is/are white Christian kiwis, will Squalid Wally describe it as a “mere irritant”.

  150. Nelson Kidd-Players

    I went with my mother to see Chuck ‘n’ Di pass when they were on their tour. Mum picked the railway crossing at Nunawading Station, presumably on the basis that they could not avoid slowing down. It was still a fleeting glimpse.

    More memorable was that lass/wench/hint who caught up with the prince at the beach and got her 15 minutes in the Women’s Weekly. Perhaps it was her bikini.

  151. Percy Popinjay

    Have ze Climate kinder started zeir march yet?

    Yep, some footage has just come in from Hyde Park.

  152. None

    Attacking someone in their house of worship is about the lowest of the low. Yeah I know Muslims bomb Coptic cathedrals, Muslims bomb Indian Catholic churches, Muslims bomb Protestant churches in Indonesia but still, shooting attacks are bad enough without cowardly attacks on a mosque.

  153. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Erratum: hint -> bint.

    Commentary: damn auto-correct!

  154. calli

    Da Yoof need a suitable song for their demmo.

    [shuffles around Youtube]. Ahhh…here’s the perfect one!

  155. Notafan:

    But he is not permitted to say Mass in his cell, on the bizarre grounds that prisoners are not allowed to lead religious services in prisons in the State of Victoria…

    How are they going to stop him?
    Tase him?
    Beat him with truncheons?

    Stupid bastards.

  156. calli

    Lol Percy.

    Who said this wasn’t an echo chamber?

    Perfect pitch, but.

  157. Once upon a time people would gather at the village church, not so much for the sermon, but to catch up on the latest news.
    Literacy and printing presses etched away at this, eventually print become the primary information source.
    This dealt great power to the printing press.
    Then came the radio and telephone and television. More communication, most of it still in one direction.
    Skipping forward, then came the internet; email, the web, blogs, mobile communicators. Communications are largely bi-directional and cheap.

    To the assembled ladies and sires, I put to you that we are in uncharted territory.

    This territory has seen the rise of trivial and the demise of reasoned thought. (Not sure why)

    Supporting examples: gangrenes, democrats, republicans, libs, labs …

  158. Old School Conservative

    Thanks for your swift action Sinc.

  159. None

    Shhhh Leigh. Waleed posted a really nuanced beautifully written piece on Cardinal Pell, remember. The Herald Sun moderators did not want me to remind their readers of Waleed’s other nuances

  160. struth

    Here’s a dilemma for the MSM.

    Kiddies protesting about the Climate or their top of the victim pole Minority being shot at by whitey with rifle……………………………

    Sorry kids.

    There is always next year.

  161. notafan

    None George Weigel raised it on First Things, he is a friend of Cardinal Pell.

  162. C.L.

    Strange that these two episodes – the mosque shooting and the Climate Change minister being punched in the head – occurred in as many days.

  163. RobK

    Well smited, Doomy.

    It was getting very, very creepy.

    He was creepy to start with, then was ramping up like a psycho.
    Good call, Sinc.

  164. None

    Bangladesh cricket team were in the mosque but seem to have gotten out ok. 1 report gunman was wearing a military uniform. If that is true then it’s definitely a nutter.

  165. hzhousewife

    Perhaps, in the same way that being dragged off to see Royalty pass by when a child, some of the youngsters being pressured into activist gatherings with boring speeches may be turned off the whole hoo-har in the long run.
    Not good to hear about Christchurch.

  166. Who has been smitten?
    Smoted?
    Smited?

    Have you spotted hark, numb er, or mounts?
    Maybe all of ’em at once? The doomlord is all powerful.

  167. Mother Lode

    Lizzie, I begin to think that Farkin’ might be a little bit fixated on you.

    I would not be surprised if he had a little shrine in a curtained off corner of the room.

    Have you noticed single earrings or unfinished bottles of drink sometimes disappear even though you have only turned your back for a moment? Dogs barking at the bushes in the backyard at night? Strange gifts like bundles of weeds or dead birds on the doorstep?

    Well, puzzle no more.

  168. None

    Notafan. I have a lot of time for George Weigel but still, that is his interpretation and he may not be aware of what goes on in our Australian prison system. There is no report of Pell complaining and Pell has been quite respectful of the rules and is unlikely to make a song and dance about this. I’m sure that there will be a chaplain or a priest ministering to him.

  169. Leigh Lowe

    Who has been smitten?
    Smoted?
    Smited?

    Have you spotted hark, numb er, or mounts?
    Maybe all of ’em at once? The doomlord is all powerful.

    All hail the Doomlord!
    His power is really … um … powerful.

  170. None

    I’m glad to see the Australian spirit is still alive and well on this blog. Not even the passing Shadow of the Doomlord frightens theSe little Aussies. He just becomes their affectionately named “Doomy” who smites on request. This is why the masses adore him.

  171. Leigh Lowe

    Bangladesh cricket team were in the mosque but seem to have gotten out ok. 1 report gunman was wearing a military uniform. If that is true then it’s definitely a nutter.

    Nein just showed the preliminary part of the shooter’s live stream. He appeared to have several autos/semi-autos. One in the beck of huz hetch-beck hed stuff written over ut un white paint.

  172. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Gunman opens fire in Christchurch mosque
    Staff writers, News Corp Australia Network
    4 minutes ago

    One of the gunmen who executed a shooting rampage inside a mosque in Christchurch is reportedly from Australia, as more reports emerge of him live-streaming the moment he opened fire in New Zealand.

    Witnesses said a man with a gun went into the mosque about 1.40pm on Friday local time, with the Bangladesh cricket team among 200 worshippers caught up in the carnage.

    Early reports say there are up to six dead and as many as 40 injured at the .

    Small children are said to be among the dead, and bodies have been reported laying on the ground outside.

    An unconfirmed report claims that one of the gunmen is an Australian “who has written a 37-page manifesto declaring his intentions”, according to the New Zealand Herald.

    There are reports of a third active shooting unfolding outside Christchurch Hospital.

  173. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Maybe in the ‘angel’s’ instance, he was smut.

  174. None

    One of the gunmen who executed a shooting rampage inside a mosque in Christchurch is reportedly from Australia, as more reports emerge of him live-streaming the moment he opened fire in New Zealand.

    from The Daily tele. I’m not yet clear if it’s one or two mosques or if there were multiple shooters. This is really awful.

  175. Percy Popinjay

    Second shooting: reports

    Media in New Zealand are reporting a shooting at a second mosque in Linwood.

  176. C.L.

    Trump to May: ‘I told you so.’

    “I’m surprised at how badly it’s all gone from the standpoint of a negotiation,” he said. “But I gave the prime minister my ideas on how to negotiate it and I think you would have been successful.

    “She didn’t listen to that and that’s fine. I mean, she’s gotta do what she gotta do. I think it could have been negotiated in a different manner, frankly. I hate to see everything being ripped apart right now.”

    Another referendum “would be very unfair to the people that won”, he added…

    Mrs May told the BBC last July that Mr Trump had advised her to sue the EU, after the president said at a joint press conference during his visit to the UK that he had given her a suggestion on how to negotiate.

    Asked what he had said, she replied: “He told me I should sue the EU, not go into negotiations, sue them. Actually, no, we’re going into negotiations with them.”

    Good call. Trump was right … again.
    ——————————
    The Australian.

  177. Notafan

    Cape Liptrap with high views over the national Park and beach.

    Exceptional.

    Possibly the best spot in Walkerville.

  178. Leigh Lowe

    But he is not permitted to say Mass in his cell, on the bizarre grounds that prisoners are not allowed to lead religious services in prisons in the State of Victoria…

    Oh?
    Really?
    Are you saying that Moozleys are not permitted to have prayers in the slammer?

  179. None

    Why is the shooter not dead yet? Have the kiwis lost their cojonEs? Anyone who goes on a shooting rampage should get three to the head bang bang bang no questions asked.

  180. None

    Leigh – the stickong point us “lead”. I suspect any formal prayers would have to be led by an outsider like a muslim Chaplain.

  181. Percy Popinjay

    An unconfirmed report claims that one of the gunmen is an Australian “who has written a 37-page manifesto declaring his intentions”

    Oh, grate. We’ll never hear the end of this if he is. What’s the bet various “prominent controversial anti-moozley conservative media figures” appear throughout this “manifesto”?

  182. notafan

    If the gunman came from Australia, and the media already know who it is, then it sounds like a security slip up.

  183. Percy Popinjay:

    Now now, Winston. You’re beginning to sound like one of those tiresome uncultured lower class little people that Julius observes with exquisite disdain as he passes by in the back seat of the Roller.

    I just couldn’t think of anything polite to call it.
    I’ve seen the furnishing style called Gaudi Saudi, but this was an eclectic mish mash of every decade from the 18th C up to the 20th C – including the glossy tiles from the 1990’s.

  184. C.L.

    The NZ SAS are now involved in the manhunt, judging by pictures of irregularly attired roughnecks with machine-guns I’ve seen in some reports.

    It’s a reminder that even in the most peaceful places and times, men with guns are all that stand between you and psychopathic lunatics.

    God bless the bereaved and guide the hunters.

  185. C.L.

    An unconfirmed report claims that one of the gunmen is an Australian “who has written a 37-page manifesto declaring his intentions”

    Sounds like yet another ASIO triumph.
    I’ll bet a thousand dollars he is “known to security authorities.”

  186. Mother Lode

    Terrible about the shooter in NZ.

    Hope they don’t kill him, though.

    Too quick.

  187. C.L.

    I wouldn’t like to be cornered by the NZ SAS, by the way.

  188. None

    OK this is sounding like an organised nutter group you know some of those ferals that build nuclear bomb shelters in the woods and are going to save the world. Have we had the ghoulish Greens come out and make political mileage out of this? I’m waiting for Tanya Plibersek lecture on Islamophobia. Or maybe we’ll have Tony Burke this time. Cue the guests for the next ABC wands while the bodies are still warm. Start smearing Bolt now. You know the routine. Has Sportsbet got the odds on whether Waleed Aly will call this a minor irritant yet?

  189. None

    C.L.

    #2959145, posted on March 15, 2019 at 2:02 pm

    +1

  190. Leigh Lowe

    If the gunman came from Australia, and the media already know who it is, then it sounds like a security slip up.

    Australian you say?
    OMG!
    I am Australian.
    I fear a backlash.

  191. Cactus

    God this NZ stuff is scary and awful. What an awful, awful thing. I hope law enforcement have the right gear and people to deal with him quickly. Christchurch is a small place, so might not have the resources to stop this getting even more out of hand than it already is.

  192. Antipostmodernism

    I just voted in the NSW election. There is nothing like a NSW Upper House tablecloth and this one was as daunting as ever. I gave Mark Latham my ‘one’. He is top of the ticket for One Nation and is likely to be elected. Latham will be a valuable voice for freedom, against PC insanity, and bloody good entertainment.

    My local Labor member was there in her wheelchair. She was a para-olympian with loads of medals as they all seem to get for basically turning up. What could be more decadent than multiple free trips around the world for disabled sailing AND wheelchair basketball? Suits Labor perfectly on several levels.

  193. None:

    from The Daily tele. I’m not yet clear if it’s one or two mosques or if there were multiple shooters. This is really awful.

    “As ye reap, so shall ye sow.”
    Otherwise known as Karma.

  194. None

    9 people dead. Two mosques targeted. So far I am only seeing reports of a lone gunman but of course we’re not going to have a lone wolf this time.
    If the New Zealand SAS do their job right he should be dead within a few minutes.

  195. Fat Tony

    Regarding the shooting(s):

    A while ago, whilst discussing Howard’s disarming of the Australian population, I was told by one of the grandkids that we have had no “mass shootings” since 1996.

    My reply was that we didn’t need to have any more cos they had already taken our guns.

  196. Lysander

    Shocking about NZ; there’s a vid doing the rounds showing blood and “matter” coming out of one person’s head.

    I hear that they’ve rammed one of the perps cars and caught him.

    Sickening.

  197. Diogenes

    It is being prevented from saying the mass that is the problem.

    Is he prevented from saying the Liturgy of the Hours?

  198. Cassie of Sydney

    “Antipostmodernism
    #2959153, posted on March 15, 2019 at 2:07 pm
    I just voted in the NSW election. There is nothing like a NSW Upper House tablecloth and this one was as daunting as ever. I gave Mark Latham my ‘one’. He is top of the ticket for One Nation and is likely to be elected. Latham will be a valuable voice for freedom, against PC insanity, and bloody good entertainment.”

    Good.

  199. Lysander

    And I heard there are three shooters.

  200. Fat Tony

    C.L.
    #2959146, posted on March 15, 2019 at 2:04 pm
    An unconfirmed report claims that one of the gunmen is an Australian “who has written a 37-page manifesto declaring his intentions”

    Sounds like yet another ASIO triumph.
    I’ll bet a thousand dollars he is “known to security authorities.”

    And allowed to happen so they can hammer all the Right-wing extremists / Nationalist.
    More surveillance and 4.00am visits coming up – but not for the mussies.

  201. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I wouldn’t like to be cornered by the NZ SAS, by the way.

    It’s only a rumor that they eat their prisoners.

  202. Percy Popinjay

    Aly will call this a minor irritant yet?

    FFS, people, enough. The squalid little shit blithely stated “terrorism is a perpetual irritant, and that while it is tragic and emotionally lacerating, it kills relatively few people and is not any kind of existential threat”.

    Might be time for new narrative, you sanctimonious narcissistic dickhead. Or perhaps you could head over to Christchurch and reassure the survivors with that little gem above.

  203. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Debbie Schipp
    6 MINUTES AGO | 2.09pm
    Shooter in custody, police unsure if others are at large

    NZ police say there may be multiple fatalities at two locations.

    At a police conference miniutes ago a spokesman said: “We have an active shooter with multiple fatalities. We have one person in custody but we we are unsure if there are other people.

    “The mutiple fatalaties are as far as we know are at two mosques (in Christchurch)

    “We are unsure if there are any other locations under threat.”

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  204. Beertruk

    CHRISTCHURCH MOSQUE MASSACRE
    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph
    33 minutes ago
    Subscriber only
    Gunfire at two crowded New Zealand mosques. Many deaths reported:

    An eyewitness inside the mosque says he heard shots fired and says at four people were lying on the ground and “there was blood everywhere”.

    An eyewitness says a man wearing a helmet and glasses and a military style jacket opened fire inside the mosque with an automatic weapon.

    About 300 people were inside the mosque for afternoon prayers.

    The manager of the An-Nur Early Childhood centre in Wigram said police gave some parents an update that said there were two gunmen and at least one was on the loose …

    There have been reports of more shots at a second mosque in Christchurch.

    Nine people have reportedly been killed. Developing.

    UPDATE:

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    UPDATE II. This is absolutely horrific:

    Small children are said to be among the dead, and bodies have been reported laying on the ground outside.

    An unconfirmed report claims that one of the gunmen is an Australian “who has written a 37-page manifesto declaring his intentions”, according to the New Zealand Herald.

    New Zealand media say a shooting has occurred in a second mosque in the city of Christchurch. No details were immediately available.

    There are also reports of a third active shooting unfolding outside Christchurch Hospital.

  205. Leigh Lowe

    An unconfirmed report claims that one of the gunmen is an Australian “who has written a 37-page manifesto declaring his intentions”

    Just scanned it on FB.
    He is a fucking lunatic … like that is breaking news.
    He named Candace Owens as an inspiration, so he has just screwed her over.

  206. None

    ‘I’m just heartbroken,” says Muslim Association of Marlborough chairman

    Muslim Association of Marlborough chairman Zayd Blissett said he found out about the shooting from a text sent by the Federation of Islamic Associations of New Zealand (FIANZ) at 2.04pm on Friday saying “50 shot” during Friday prayers in Christchurch.

    “I’m just heartbroken. In fact I’m sitting here crying,” he said.

    “This is New Zealand. This can’t happen here.”

    Where two or more Muslims are gathered in prayer…

    Poor bugger. It is a sad fact that Islam does not have any developed anthropology. There is no theological understanding of man and his nature and his need for redemption. No any developed understanding of the dignity of the human, all humans. Actually it’s only the judeo Christian tradition that has any anthropology of note and it is this which undergirds our understanding of justice, mercy and compassion. I hope they get the shooter or shooters real quick.

  207. Gun control is so good in NZ that beat cops don’t carry guns. See how that works when dealing with shooters such as today.

  208. None

    If it is him Leigh and he just screwed over Candace Owen it will be no different to that nutter who shot up the labor camp in Norway who had this blithering Manifesto quoting all sorts of people including John Howard and the guy from gates of Vienna. In that case if I recall correctly John Birmingham of the ABC was very quick to try the smear and blame it on Howard and anybody else. So it’s time to disperse and get onto the new sites and make sure the little munchkins wait for facts and don’t get away with their lies and smears.

  209. notafan

    Hard to see how an Australian can amass an arsenal in NZ without local help ( I watched the first twenty seconds of the vid of him in the car only, he had a LOT of guns)

  210. Muddy

    It’s still too early to be jumping to conclusions, especially based on information from the malignant media.

  211. Lysander

    shooter had a black sun logo on their shirt???

    that’s a sign of neo-nazism.

  212. notafan

    Muddy the vid was on youtube, uploaed by someone called Stain Laleigh, might be gone now, twitter were quick to suspend Brenton Tarrant’s account

  213. Confused Old Misfit

    That’s going to be the end of private gun ownership in NZ.
    They are about to be disarmed.

  214. Mother Lode

    I hope they get the shooter or shooters real quick.

    Best case is if shooter(s) spend the rest of their lives in chronic pain hooked up to machines where he can listen to people coming and going talking about the richness of their lives. When life goes on as before he will be able to reflect that he effected no great change and ruined his life for nothing.

    Bonus points if he spends the rest of his days in nappies and has to be changed, utterly dependent on people who know him and despise him.

  215. Pedro the Ignorant

    That’s going to be the end of private gun ownership in NZ.
    They are about to be disarmed.

    Yep. Port Arthur version 2.0.

    London to a brick.

  216. Leigh Lowe

    Hard to see how an Australian can amass an arsenal in NZ without local help ( I watched the first twenty seconds of the vid of him in the car only, he had a LOT of guns)

    Three in the passenger side footwell and at least four in the boot.
    Christ knows how many spare mags.

  217. Pedro the Ignorant

    Cue the gun grabbers in 3…2..1………

  218. Mater

    that’s a sign of neo-nazism.

    &

    He named Candace Owens as an inspiration, so he has just screwed her over.

    A strange mix.
    I think I’ll wait for some solid facts on this one.

  219. Fat Tony

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2959180, posted on March 15, 2019 at 2:27 pm
    That’s going to be the end of private gun ownership in NZ.
    They are about to be disarmed.

    Agree 100%

  220. None

    Presently the Police do have one suspect in custody. However there could be others involved. Also there are multiple scenes involved in this incident as well,” Ardern said.

    “It is clear that this is one of New Zealand’s darkest days.”

    “This is an extraordinary and unprecedented act of violence.”

    Ardern says many of those in the mosque were likely to be migrants – but they were “us” – New Zealanders. The shooter was not, she says.

    “There is no place in New Zealand for extreme violence.”

    Bucky Beaver really is f****** hopeless. Of course there is no place in New Zealand for extreme violence because all their violent types come here and are over-represented in our prison population (just about every coward punch killer has been a kiwifir example) and they also represent one of our largest percentages of deportees.

  221. DrBeauGan

    I got here too late to read the Harken post that got him smote. Just the responses to it. He won’t be missed. Another ghastly sicko.

    The Christchurch nutter is another sicko. They come up in every time and culture, but some times and cultures encourage them and others try to suppress them. Christendom has been fairly successful at suppressing them, but it is easy to see how one might slip through these days. He was just retaliating in a way. If they can do random acts of violence to us, we will have some who think we should do random acts of violence back. Not very Christian and not very sane, but one can see the logic.

    Our nutters aren’t as common as their nutters, but are more efficient.

    I strenuously disapprove, but it was pretty much inevitable.

  222. Snoopy

    That’s going to be the end of private gun ownership in NZ.
    They are about to be disarmed.

    I’m not too sure the Maori are going to accept that.

  223. mizaris

    WA Premier idiot Mark McGowan yesterday interviewed re the EPA fiasco “I blame Tony Abbott for all this”.
    W T F!!!!!!!

  224. None

    You mean the Kiwis haven’t been disarmed yet? Yep agreed it’s going to be a gun grab. Punish the innocent instead of addressing the issue.

  225. notafan

    Good point None

    The despicable creep that dragged that poor motorcyclists 60 metres while the poor man was on fire will be deported to New Zealand when he completes his paltry three year sentence.

    He knew what he was doing, only stopped because a passenger begged him to.

  226. DrBeauGan

    The shooter was incredibly stupid. Shooting kids in a mosque does nothing in even the most evil calculus. Shooting politicians would have made far more sense. Might even have got him some sympathy.

  227. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Education
    School strike for climate change action: A class act or just a wag?
    Sarah StegerPerthNow
    March 15, 2019 2:01AM
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    WA News
    Environment

    Perth children missing classes today to join a climate change protest say the strike is “more important than school”.

    “Teachers realise that this is a lot more important … our school said they support the strike as long as our parents supported it,” Makaela Rowe-Fox, a Year 11 pupil at Aranmore Catholic College, said.

    PerthNow yesterday spoke to five pupils, who said they have no political affiliations, and who will skip school in defiance of calls by the State and Federal education ministers.

    Terminating Adani’s planned coal mine, which is proposed for Queensland’s Galilee Basin on the other side of the country, is among the students’ goals.

    Makaela, 15, claimed the mining industry — which employs more than 100,000 people in WA — was “desecrating sacred land owned by the indigenous peoples”.

    “The mining industry has a terrible effect on our environment and is one of the major causes for climate change that can potentially make Australia unliveable,” she said.

    Sampson McCrackan, 15, said “most teachers were generally fine” with today’s mass strike, which is expected to attract about 2000 student protesters to St George’s Cathedral from 11am.

    Makaela, your parent’s house would certainly stand on “sacred land, owned by the indigenous peoples.” I’m sure they’d appreciate your advice to hand over the title deeds, and leave.

  228. None

    good point Dr Beaugan why the hell don’t they Target the politicians?

    Farpoint about the Maries not wanting to give up the guns. We forget that Jacinda Ahern got about 3 votes and she’s an imposter p.m..

  229. The Bangladesh Cricket Team was at the mosque & only just slipped out before he got there.
    Is this fair dinkum?

  230. None

    Aranmore Catholic College.

    What did I say a few days ago about Catholic schools being full of worse lefty nutters than even State Schoola?

  231. notafan

    I condemn the shootings. without qualification.

  232. notafan

    Don’t blame the school, they didn’t give her an Adelaide name.

  233. jo

    C.L.
    #2959092, posted on March 15, 2019 at 1:30 pm

    Let’s not rush to judgement …

    New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has condemned a physical attack on Climate Change Minister James Shaw, saying the accessibility of politicians in her country ought not to be taken for granted.

    Mr Shaw, the Green Party leader, was walking alone to the Parliament in Wellington on Thursday when a man approached him and punched him in the face, police said.

    ABC.

    all politicians should make themselves available to be punched in the face at any time.

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