Thursday Forum: March 14, 2019

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  1. Infidel Tiger

    That manifesto is something.

    Pure evil and nutbaggery.

  2. Lysander

    I went to Aranmore. So did some of my next generation of family members.

    They all left. The RE teacher there was a lesbian who didn’t believe in God and rammed climate change action down their throats.

    #diversity

  3. Infidel Tiger

    Aranmore Catholic College.

    They have a brilliant rugby program.

  4. C.L.

    School strike for climate change action: A class act or just a wag?

    The adults pulling the strings schedule these stunts for weekdays so as to give them a “strike” vibe. That’s very clever. The real reason they do so, of course, is to maximise the attendance. About 11 of these same teenagers would rock up on for a council-licensed march Saturday morning.

  5. None

    He goes on to describe himself as an “eco-fascist”.

    “I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a libertarian before becoming an eco-fascist,” he wrote.

  6. notafan

    They all left. The RE teacher there was a lesbian who didn’t believe in God and rammed climate change action down their throats.

    Why didn’t you./their parents complain.?

    There was a bit of that at my daughters’ school. I complained

    RE Teacher was not rehired and other stuff from a difference staff member got a lid put on it

    might be bad again but I am out of it.

  7. jo

    vicpol should go to nz to learn how to ram cars off the road. 6 people would more than likely be alive in melbourne.

  8. Infidel Tiger

    Shooter was an anti-conservative, environmentalist, ethno-nationalist nutbag.

    Would love to know how he wasn’t coming up on intelligence radars.

  9. Roger

    “I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a libertarian before becoming an eco-fascist,” he wrote.

    A Leftist, in other words.

  10. Top Ender

    Useful argument to use against climate change numpties.

    Name me a city that runs on 100% “renewables”?

  11. calli

    Has Backlash!™ been mentioned yet?

  12. C.L.

    I see “1571” on the shooter’s rifle in a Daily Mail picture.
    Battle of Lepanto.

  13. None

    Would love to know how he wasn’t coming up on intelligence radars.

    That’s because he was a communist and an anarchist first. I bet he’s Victorian.

  14. Lysander

    Nota; we did complain and nobody listened.

  15. Roger

    A Leftist, in other words.

    Whom the mediacracy will no doubt describe as an “extreme right winger”.

  16. None

    Ok brace yourself for the usual carry on. Have we had Tanya Plibersek out yet? That party of old white guys, the Greens are a bit slow off the mark today. Come on Julian Burnside give us your best anti white supremacist stick. I think you should film it up on that spectacular balcony in house no. 7. The beach backdrop is charming.

  17. dover_beach

    Sounds like this fella was intellectually all over the place.

  18. Boambee John

    From CL at 1330

    Mr Shaw, the Green Party leader, was walking alone to the Parliament in Wellington on Thursday when a man approached him and punched him in the face, police said.

    ABC.

    I wonder will Their ABC be rather more robust in their condemnation of this than they were about the attack on Tony Abbott?

  19. None

    Actually Calli, some smart Ali really should get up and start telling all the non-muslims to expect a backlash.

  20. struth

    Of course it is an evil thing the shooter has done and I condemn it totally.

    But now let’s watch the double standards of the left.

    Somebody should say, but unfortunately won’t , to that bug eyed sand monkey on Ten, Waleed, that this is only a minor irritant.

  21. struth

    #I’llridewithwhitemen

  22. Lysander

    A Christian brother jailed for 11 years has been immediately released from prison after court of appeal quashed all 11 convictions against him from Geelong in the 1960’s.

  23. None

    That’s an understatement Dover but no one with any intellectual virtue is going to go around shooting up old people and children at a mosque.

  24. Percy Popinjay

    this is only a minor irritant

    FFS. I give up.

  25. DrBeauGan

    Why can’t the ethno-nationalist white supremacists get their shit together and blow up parliament while it’s in session? I’d deplore the violence and bloodshed, but I’d have to admit there’s an upside.

  26. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Richard Di Natale

    @RichardDiNatale

    The news unfolding in Christchurch is tragic and deeply saddening.

    Our thoughts are with all of those affected.

    We stand with the Muslim community, here and around the world.

  27. struth

    this is only a minor irritant

    FFS. I give up.

    I’m repeating his words back at him regarding Muslim terrorism.

  28. hzhousewife

    “I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a libertarian before becoming an eco-fascist,” he wrote.

    sorry but back a few hours he was a far-right activist ?? my my, don’t the media move fast !!!!

  29. None

    Di Natale is such a drama queen because you know the whole world is threatened by some nutter in New Zealand who was such a coward and shut up old people and children in a mosque.

  30. C.L.

    Given what occurred in Australia earlier this week – certainly one of the most infamous disgraces since 1788 – I hope I don’t hear any leftists lament the “tone” of Australia vis-a-vis members of a certain religious community and the dire consequences for life and liberty of same.

  31. Mother Lode

    The mining industry has a terrible effect on our environment

    Mining takes place far from Perth and far from the shopping mall. What could this kid possibly know? Where did they learn of these terrible effects?

    Let’s face it – these kids are just resonating chambers (hollow and dark) to amplify the volume of their teachers voices.

    The teachers should be taken to task for misunderstanding their role with regards to their charges.

    Also note that the Greens want these kids to be given the vote – so we will be governed by those chosen by the most ignorant, frustrated, inept, dictatorially predisposed mobs in the nation – school teachers*.

    *Yes there are exceptions, but they are outnumbered and outgunned by those irascible termagents who have, by repeated and sustained immersion, managed to soak their way into the deepest fibres of the Education Department.

  32. jupes

    Trump will be blamed for the Christchurch massacre.

    Within the next 24 hours.

  33. Fat Tony

    Lysander
    #2959228, posted on March 15, 2019 at 3:08 pm
    A Christian brother jailed for 11 years has been immediately released from prison after court of appeal quashed all 11 convictions against him from Geelong in the 1960’s.

    Has this news been given the front page in all the MSM??

  34. calli

    What is an eco-fascist? Is it an environment obsessed halfwit who wants the government to control the output and input and general administration of privately owned businesses? Someone who wants to rid the world of excess-to-requirements humans?

    Sort of like a Green?

  35. min

    Burnside’s house is full of stuff, not my taste ,and mirrors everywhere. Now that says something . Unfortunately there are a lot of doctors ‘wives in Kooyong so he just might knock Josh off.

  36. To be fair, all eco and enviro whatevers should be rounded up and sent to detention camps.

  37. jupes

    “I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a libertarian before becoming an eco-fascist,” he wrote.

    Doesn’t matter. He is white and an extremist therefore he is “right wing”.

  38. C.L.

    Richard Di Natale✔@RichardDiNatale

    The news unfolding in Christchurch is tragic and deeply saddening.

    Our thoughts are with all of those affected.

    We stand with the Muslim community, here and around the world.

    Did one of his au pairs write that? Bambi and Thumper, IIRC.

  39. notafan

    In his distributing post before the attack, the man posted: “If I don’t survive the attack, goodbye, godbless, and see you all in Valhalla!”

    In Norse mythology, Valhalla is a “majestic, enormous hall located in Asgard, ruled over by the god Odin

    I blame Marvel

  40. Roger

    What is an eco-fascist? Is it an environment obsessed halfwit who wants the government to control the output and input and general administration of privately owned businesses? Someone who wants to rid the world of excess-to-requirements humans?

    Sort of like a Green?

    Worse, I’m afraid; it’s a Greenie with guns reprising the Nazi “Blood and Soil” ideology.

  41. Mater

    Sounds like this fella was intellectually all over the place.

    Yep.

    Is there a particular person that radicalized you the most?
    Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was Candice Owens. Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes.

    Really? Considering what he just did?
    Smells like a shithouse rat.

  42. Infidel Tiger

    Trump will be blamed for the Christchurch massacre.

    Within the next 24 hours.

    I his manifesto he explicitly states he doesn’t like Trump.

    Won’t matter.

    Loves the environment though.

  43. calli

    The Justices found there to be “serious discrepancies between his [the complainant] version of events and the facts that were objectively established by the evidence.”

    The compainaint maintained he confronted the appellant directly at the school in early 1969.

    However, according to the court “it was clearly established that the appellant had ceased to teach at the school at the end of 1966.”

    Hmmmmm.

    How on earth could you convict when the complainant got the year wrong? And with actual evidence too.

    Oh. Wait…

  44. None

    Bolt:

    Judases. Melbourne’s University of Divinity has dumped Fr Frank Brennnan from speaking at its graduation ceremony, where he was to get its highest award. The reason: he’d written why Cardinal George Pell’s conviction seemed unsound, and having him now at the ceremony “could have caused distress”. Wasn’t Christ crucified for causing distress?

  45. Lysander

    yeah; good point Calli – how stupid is that! AND THEY GOT AN INITIAL CONVICTION!!!

  46. Cassie of Sydney

    “Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2959232, posted on March 15, 2019 at 3:10 pm
    Richard Di Natale

    @RichardDiNatale

    The news unfolding in Christchurch is tragic and deeply saddening.

    Our thoughts are with all of those affected.

    We stand with the Muslim community, here and around the world.”

    I don’t recall the despicable turd Di Natale tweeting the following words…

    “We stand with the J**s, here and around the world”

    After Pittsburgh.
    After the slaughter at the Kosher supermarket in Paris.
    After the slaughter at the Chabad House in Bombay.

    I don’t recall the despicable turd Di Natale tweeting the following words…

    “We stand with the Christians, here and around the world”

    After Christians in Egypt are repeatedly attacked…churches bombed, Christians shot at and stabbed
    After Christians in Indonesia are repeatedly attacked…churches bombed, Christians shot at and stabbed
    After Christians in Pakistan are repeatedly attacked…churches bombed, Christians shot at and stabbed

    I am happy to be corrected…..has anyone ever head similar sentiment from Di Natale when J**s and Christians are attacked and murdered?

  47. calli

    Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes.

    Yeah. Right. Totally believable.

    Because Owens is a cowardly, murderous d*ckhead and you aren’t.

  48. Infidel Tiger

    Is there a particular person that radicalized you the most?
    Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was Candice Owens. Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes.

    This wreaks to high heaven.

  49. None

    I’ve never heard them uttered, Cassie.
    He’s a f****** low-life coward.

  50. calli

    Perhaps he’s scared, Cassie. Looks like the NZ perp was one of his own.

  51. struth

    I wouldn’t be taking an Air NZ plane any time soon.

  52. notafan

    Another case where the jury verdict was not supported by the evidence brokenrites on the conviction of Br Tyrrell

  53. Oh come on

    Is there a particular person that radicalized you the most?
    Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was Candice Owens. Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes.

    Very sus. Talk about over-egging the pudding.

  54. A Christian brother jailed for 11 years has been immediately released from prison after court of appeal quashed all 11 convictions against him from Geelong in the 1960’s.

    of course, the brother and catholic church are seeking reparations for wrongful imprisonment and heading for civil courts for damages to their reputations.

    /sarcoff

  55. Pedro the Ignorant

    The Bangladesh Cricket Team was at the mosque & only just slipped out before he got there.
    Is this fair dinkum?

    No. They were training somewhere in Hagley Park, a 164 hectare park across the road from the mosque and “heard shots” according to their fitness and conditioning coach.

    They then all ran back to The Oval.

  56. hzhousewife

    It will be intersting to see whether the Broken Rites website is ever updated.
    The internet is forever.

  57. struth

    I already know everything about the shooter.

    The double standards will be breathtaking.
    If he was a Mussie, or a democrat, they’d shut it all down and look for a motive that they’ll never find, and finally come up with lone wolf mental illness.

    Let’s watch the media go insane, (or even more so)

  58. bespoke

    Is there a particular person that radicalized you the most?
    Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was Candice Owens. Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes.

    This thing reads iffy. But I have read some scatter brains hear and other places so a cant discount it.

  59. notafan

    Another case which underlines the need for Victoria to have judge only trials

    Catholic religious are not going to get a fair go at a jury trial in Victoria

  60. DrBeauGan

    of course, the brother and catholic church are seeking reparations for wrongful imprisonment and heading for civil courts for damages to their reputations.

    /sarcoff

    I can’t help feeling that Christian charity sometimes trumps justice when it shouldn’t.

  61. Oh come on

    Where is the manifesto?

  62. Percy Popinjay

    I’m repeating his words back at him regarding Muslim terrorism.

    No, you are not. See my comment at 2:13pm. The true meaning of squalid’s comment is even more obvious when it is quoted correctly.

  63. The Justices found there to be “serious discrepancies between his [the complainant] version of events and the facts that were objectively established by the evidence.”

    And the consequences for the complainant are ????

  64. Fleeced

    I hate to wade into the NZ shooting issue, but… is this the first Go-Pro livestreamed shooting? I fear it won’t be the last.

    Many on twitter are attacking Pewdipie, for the sin of being name-dropped by the shooter. As was Candace Owens, Fortnite and Spyro.

    I see that many here are saying he’s a lefty from his manifesto, but it sounds like he was trying to make as many meme and pop culture references as possible to taint everything he could. He’s ensuring he’ll be talking about for a while, that’s for sure.

    And I know that it’s only a matter of time before somebody turns it into a conspiracy theory or declares it a false flag, and I don’t want to be the person who does, but… I mean, if you WERE wanting have the right blamed for something: A mass shooting, by a white guy, against muslims, in a city named Christchurch, name-dropping Candace Owens and pewdiepie…. And no, I’m saying it’s a false flag, I’m just saying it couldn’t do a “better” job if it were one.

    Do I think he was left or right? Neither. I think he was after fame – and referenced all the memes he could think of to get it. Sadly, I think he’s succeeded in these aims.

    Worst of all: Livestream shooters. Get used to them.

  65. jupes

    Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was Candice Owens.

    He must really hate her to single her out like this. From what little I have heard from Candice she hasn’t said a word against Muslims.

    The poor girl.

  66. Mother Lode

    becoming an eco-fascist

    What part of eco-fascism shoots up mosques? Or even hospitals – rather than, say, the offices of a mining company?

    And what sort of mental gymnastics takes from libertarian to eco-fascist?

    Who calls themselves an eco-fascist, which is a derogatory term.

    I have a feeling that list of his past incarnations does not include his current one.

  67. Percy Popinjay

    The existence of islam gives me the perpetual irrits.

  68. zyconoclast

    Mollie Tibbetts’ accused killer wants trial moved to different county due to ‘minority population’

    An illegal immigrant charged in the murder of Mollie Tibbetts, a University of Iowa student found dead in August, requested his trial to be moved to a more diverse county in the state so his jury pool has more minority representation.

  69. Another case which underlines the need for Victoria to have judge only trials

    Nope. Only a ALP lackey appointed judges would be worse.

  70. notafan

    The Justices found there to be “serious discrepancies between his [the complainant] version of events and the facts that were objectively established by the evidence.”

    I would love to read the judgement on this appeal

    No doubt the reasonableness test established by the High Court in 1994

  71. Pedro the Ignorant

    I don’t recall the despicable turd Di Natale tweeting the following words…

    I thought about squashing Dick de Natale’s toad like head while trying out my new hydraulic log splitter yesterday.

    Can dreams come true?

  72. I can’t help feeling that Christian charity sometimes trumps justice when it shouldn’t.

    There is nothing Christian about letting people shit on you from a great height.

  73. Gab

    None
    #2959103, posted on March 15, 2019 at 1:37 pm
    Attacking someone in their house of worship is about the lowest of the low. Yeah I know Muslims bomb Coptic cathedrals, Muslims bomb Indian Catholic churches, Muslims bomb Protestant churches in Indonesia but still, shooting attacks are bad enough without cowardly attacks on a mosque.

    Muslims also attack mosques.

  74. C.L.

    Media reports of Tyrell’s trial at the time are laden with noisily jingling alarm bells.
    The entire account is obvious bullshit from beginning to end.
    Not one witness, not one former staff member, no medical evidence or contemporaneous complaints, ludicrous exactitude (‘he raped me exactly 140 times’), cinematic dénouement, wrong year.
    Good enough for the jury.
    My guess: the complainant is yet another criminal asshole trying to plead down a head sentence for one of his own serious crimes by accusing the most lucrative mark in Victoria’s scam ecosystem: the Catholic priest, brother or swimming pool overseer you remember from your boyhood.
    Of course he won’t be charged for perjury. That’s the other great thing about priest roulette: you can spin the wheel and lose – and still walk away.

  75. Cassie of Sydney

    “Pedro the Ignorant
    #2959289, posted on March 15, 2019 at 3:42 pm
    I don’t recall the despicable turd Di Natale tweeting the following words…

    I thought about squashing Dick de Natale’s toad like head while trying out my new hydraulic log splitter yesterday.

    Can dreams come true?”

    Can I watch?

  76. Mark A

    Percy Popinjay
    #2959277, posted on March 15, 2019 at 3:37 pm

    I’m repeating his words back at him regarding Muslim terrorism.

    No, you are not. See my comment at 2:13pm. The true meaning of squalid’s comment is even more obvious when it is quoted correctly.

    Can’t find it.

  77. Percy Popinjay

    Critics slam Vogue’s ‘global talent’ cover starring Scarlett Johansson: ‘They still place the white woman in the center’

    Getting it yet, you dumb hollyweird slag? You’re only marginally below white men on the oppressor totem pole.

  78. dover_beach

    Given what occurred in Australia earlier this week – certainly one of the most infamous disgraces since 1788 – I hope I don’t hear any leftists lament the “tone” of Australia vis-a-vis members of a certain religious community and the dire consequences for life and liberty of same.

    You are very droll this afternoon, CL.

  79. Cassie of Sydney

    “Percy Popinjay
    #2959282, posted on March 15, 2019 at 3:39 pm
    The existence of islam gives me the perpetual irrits.”

    Me too.

  80. That’s the other great thing about priest roulette: you can spin the wheel and lose – and still walk away.

    There is a problem of no consequences for false accusers.
    There is also a problem with police who bring charges without a cursory examination of the so called ‘evidence’.
    There would be no problem if we let the mob burn them at the stake or let them die in prison before their appeal is heard.

  81. Any reports yet of a Catholic/Anglican girl on the bus home from work having her scarf ripped off?

  82. zyconoclast

    OTTAWA — The government has reached a proposed settlement with former Indian Day Schools students that would compensate each survivor $10,000, Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn Bennett announced Tuesday.

    Those who experienced physical and sexual abuse at the schools are also eligible for additional compensation of between $50,000 and $200,000 based on severity.

  83. Mark A

    Mark A
    #2959297, posted on March 15, 2019 at 3:50 pm

    Percy Popinjay
    #2959277, posted on March 15, 2019 at 3:37 pm

    Can’t find it.

    OK I found it

    How is that quote differing from what struth said in an abbreviated form?

  84. C.L.

    Many on twitter are attacking Pewdipie, for the sin of being name-dropped by the shooter. As was Candace Owens, Fortnite and Spyro.

    I’ve heard of Candace Owens.
    Are the others bottled water companies?

  85. Knuckle Dragger

    C.L.; just now:

    Unfortunately I reckon you’re spot on with this one. The whole thing has a hideous air of familiarity to it, demonstrating that the anti Catholic judiciary fest began well before the GP fiasco.

    Would that the same thing happen to GP, but I’m not holding my breath.

  86. Percy Popinjay

    How is that quote differing from what struth said in an abbreviated form?

    Seriously? Do you know the difference between “minor” and “perpetual”? Squalid used the latter term very deliberately.

  87. Overburdened

    Calli
    I was heartily congratulating you on the choice of music, the wide eyed earnestness of the youth and the misty sentimentalism of the oldies, all enraptured.
    I was praising the cleverness of your choice as stylish.
    The first 20 seconds give or take was enough to reflect the pie in the sky gullibility of children and true believers, then it went political. This l think eclipsed the satire.
    Just sayin in show biz sometimes less is more.

  88. Knuckle Dragger

    It very much looks like this peanut in Christchurch learnt how to handle firearms by playing video games.

    He is extremely unskilled in the dark art of the pump action shotgun. Looks like it’s the first time he’s picked one up.

  89. Mark A

    “terrorism is a perpetual irritant, and that while it is tragic and emotionally lacerating, it kills relatively few people and is not any kind of existential threat”.

    Depends on your view,

    it kills relatively few people and is not any kind of existential threat

    Ie. minor irritant of a perpetual nature.

  90. Overburdened

    Apologies for nagging at you, and for any other nagging that l have done.
    This does not suggest it won’t happen again.

  91. notafan

    demonstrating that the anti Catholic judiciary fest began well before the GP fiasco.

    It starts with vicpol laying charges not supported by independent evidence, but on the word of the accuser alone, regardless of the fact that not only is there no other evidence to support the claim but rather only evidence to contradict it .

    The dpp is complicit and the magistrates court, the sexual assault unit magistrates are openly ‘victims advocates!;

    Damn the cost to and suffering of the accused of going to a rigged trial when the jury pool in Vic thinks Catholic religious is synonymous with child abuser.

  92. C.L.

    I would love to read the judgement on this appeal

    No doubt the reasonableness test established by the High Court in 1994

    It seems the clincher was the man claiming to have confronted Tyrell in 1969.
    Tyrell left the school in 1966 and there were ample records to prove it.

    I fear for the Cardinal’s appeal. If it’s only a howler of this magnitude that saved Tyrell – rather than a total and complete absence of evidence – then GP probably won’t be acquitted.

  93. mh

    Christchurch can’t take a trick the last few years.

  94. Cassie of Sydney

    And here it comes…

    PRIMROSE RIORDAN
    15 MINUTES AGO | 3.42PM
    Labor, Greens point to ‘hate speech’

    Labor and Greens politicians in Australia have linked the attack in Christchurch with far right political leaders and “hate speech”.

    Tony Burke

    @Tony_Burke
    Does anyone still dispute the link between hate speech and violence?

    671
    2:49 PM – Mar 15, 2019 · Sydney, New South Wales
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    Labor frontbencher Tony Burke tweeted: “does anyone still dispute the link between hate speech and violence?”, while backbench Labor MP Tim Watts has been tweeting links to articles about the radicalisation of white-supremacists online.

    Greens Senator Mehreen Faruqi said today’s violence was the result of politicians who “incite hate”.

    “Attending Friday prayers is a family ritual for millions of Muslims. My heart breaks for everyone who has lost family and friends today, and Muslims around the world who worry for their safety each day,” she tweeted.
    Mehreen Faruqi

    @MehreenFaruqi
    There is blood on the hands of politicians who incite hate. To me, there is a clear link between their politics of hate and this sickening, senseless violence in #Christchurch.

    So Mehreen, there is blood on the hands of imans who incite hate against J**s and Christians every Friday at prayers…..do you condemn that?

    So Mehreen…attending a kosher supermarket on Friday afternoon is a family ritual for millions of J**s. Did your heart break for everyone who lost family and friends when the kosher supermarket was attacked and innocent J**ws were murdered by a faithful adherent of your putrid religion?

    So Mehreen….J**s and Christians…particularly Christians living in Muslim countries……worry for their safety each day.

    So Mehreen…did you condemn terrorism committed by your barbarous religious ideology?

    No Mehreen…because you are a fucking despicable green hypocrite.

  95. Mater

    Many on twitter are attacking Pewdipie, for the sin of being name-dropped by the shooter. As was Candace Owens, Fortnite and Spyro.

    Hang on. What his manifesto actually says is:

    Were you taught violence and extremism by video games,music,literature,cinema?
    Yes, Spyro the dragon 3 taught me ethno-nationalism. Fortnite trained me to be a killer and to floss on the corpses of my enemies.
    No.

    Notice the ‘No’ at the end? Tends to make everything prior to it seem like sarcasm, don’t you think?
    Talking about ‘flossing’ [a new age dance which characters on Fortnite do on command] on his enemies tends to support this interpretation.

  96. Percy Popinjay

    No. I’m challenging the incorrect use of minor, instead of perpetual. There is a very profound difference in this instance.

    If you knew anything about the real goals of that monstrous totalitarian idiotology (i.e. islam), you’d know why Squalid chose the latter term.

  97. Fleeced

    I’ve heard of Candace Owens.
    Are the others bottled water companies?

    You’ve prob heard of pewdipie – he was, until 3 days ago, the most suscribed channel on youtube. He commentates whilst playing videogames (especially first-person shooters) and has branched out into other commentaries and podcast style stuff.

    The others are games.

    Yes, computer games will no doubt be blamed again as well – though I suspect the media will mostly go with the anti-immigrant stuff, and how right-wingers are terrorists, etc. In the latter regards, I swear some can already barely contain their glee.

  98. Knuckle Dragger

    I’ve never understood the reluctance of upper level (as opposed to top level) police in failing to go after people who make false statements.

    These are typically made in domestic violence matters and historic sexual assault investigations.

    In both cases, the people making the statements sign acknowledgments that its content is true and correct, and in some jurisdictions that making a false statement makes you liable for the offence of perjury.

    There are two forms of perjury – written, as in a statement, and oral, as in giving evidence in court. Both attract hefty terms of imprisonment, and whether there’s a mindset somewhere by someone that says it’s better not to pursue it because the liar is still a victim of sorts, or whether to settle for a judge instructing a jury to give no weight to said evidence, I don’t know. But it’s shit either way.

    Don’t get me started on subornation, as if this were followed up properly there’d be several coppers in a recent matter buying soap on a rope to prevent injury.

  99. dover_beach

    Media reports of Tyrell’s trial at the time are laden with noisily jingling alarm bells.
    The entire account is obvious bullshit from beginning to end.

    It is a disgrace that innocent people are being put through the ringer in their twilight years by the investigative and prosecutorial arms of the law who appear to be not exercising the slightest judiciousness when indicting an accused.

  100. Fleeced

    Notice the ‘No’ at the end?

    You are right, mater… haven’t got that far in the manifesto myself. Don’t particularly want to read it, to be honest…

  101. Overburdened

    The fuckwit in NZ should be treated with the same regard as any other perpetrator of communal violence harming non-combatants of whatever stripe.
    This act may give people time to reflect on their own values and feelings if it had been done by someone with other motivations.
    Although it doesn’t matter at all, I wish to express commiserations and concern for anyone affected by this.

  102. Eyrie

    Hope someone is keeping an eye on local and NZ jihadi hotheads.

  103. Eyrie

    Good to see you back Habib. We were wondering where you got to.

  104. hzhousewife

    What is the age demographic of computer game proponents – 11 to say 44? Can’t be too many 60+’ers hooked on the twilight? no?

  105. jupes

    Tony Burke

    @Tony_Burke
    Does anyone still dispute the link between hate speech the Koran and violence?

    Now you’re talking Tony. You berk.

  106. mh

    Tony Burke

    @Tony_Burke
    Does anyone still dispute the link between hate speech and violence?

    Then why don’t you condemn the Islamic hate preachers in your own electorate, Burke?

  107. nein news:

    The Court of Appeal on Friday overturned the verdict and ordered Mr Tyrrell be “quickly” released, having already spent more than a year in prison.

    He was taken into custody ahead of his sentencing last April, when he was ordered to serve 11 years in prison.

    The sentence sent Mr Tyrrell to jail for at least six-and-a-half years before being eligible for release on parole, and it was accepted the brother, who is frail and partially blind, could have died there.

  108. Percy Popinjay

    @Tony_Burke
    Does anyone still dispute the link between hate speech and violence?

    Have you ever visited a mosque in your electorate, during Friday “prayers” you corrupt stupid hypocritical piece of shit?

  109. Knuckle Dragger

    Mater, earlier;

    Fortnite. I knew it. God knows what this Grafton muppet Tarrant could have done if he was competent.

    Unless you can put five rounds on target in three seconds with a pumpy, you shouldn’t be allowed near one.

  110. Infidel Tiger

    The manifesto is a giant troll to sow division.

    It’s working.

  111. Mater

    You are right, mater… haven’t got that far in the manifesto myself. Don’t particularly want to read it, to be honest…

    I don’t blame you Fleeced but I’m getting the facts whilst they are still available. We are going to have this lumped on us squarely, and we better be informed before the media spin starts.

  112. hzhousewife

    I don’t know how twitter is monetised, but hey, the owner is making a motza today.
    Can our Govt tax them?

  113. Cassie of Sydney

    “incoherent rambler
    #2959328, posted on March 15, 2019 at 4:16 pm
    nein news:

    The Court of Appeal on Friday overturned the verdict and ordered Mr Tyrrell be “quickly” released, having already spent more than a year in prison.

    He was taken into custody ahead of his sentencing last April, when he was ordered to serve 11 years in prison.

    The sentence sent Mr Tyrrell to jail for at least six-and-a-half years before being eligible for release on parole, and it was accepted the brother, who is frail and partially blind, could have died there.”

    Why can’t he sue?

  114. @Tony_Burke
    Does anyone still dispute the link between hate speech and violence?

    Oh goody. Does that mean protections for Mr. Rabbit?

  115. C.L.

    You’ve prob heard of pewdipie

    Nope.
    I’ve never played a video game.

  116. Snoopy

    Bill Shorten couldn’t resist making it all about him.

  117. Knuckle Dragger

    Shorten on Sky:

    “Don’t view the footage. Don’t share the footage. That’s what the bad people want.”

    Cut back to studio.

    Footage shown.

  118. Seco

    How can something like this go undetected?

  119. mh

    This is for stackja

    The Bureau of Meteorology warns that, at 2:55 pm, very dangerous thunderstorms were detected on the weather radar near Mulgowie, Grandchester, Rathdowney and Rosevale. Very dangerous thunderstorms with giant hail, destructive wind gusts and intense rainfall are forecast to affect Laidley, Kooralbyn and Rosewood by 3:25 pm and Ipswich, Beaudesert and Gatton by 3:55 pm.

    Other severe thunderstorms were detected on the weather radar near Lake Samsonvale, Dayboro, Kincora and Mount Nebo. They are forecast to affect Pittsworth, Fernvale and Samford by 3:30 pm and Strathpine, the area south of Toowoomba and the area southwest of Toowoomba by 4:00 pm. Damaging, heavy rainfall that may lead to flash flooding and large hailstones are likely.

    Mulgowie has recorded 62mm in 30 minutes.

  120. Tailgunner

    Worst of all: Livestream shooters. Get used to them.

    Great post, Fry.
    He’s thrown the alt-Right straight under the bus. As others have noted – NZ about to be disarmed.
    MKUltra’d, cuz.

  121. Fleeced

    The manifesto is a giant troll to sow division.

    It’s working.

    Bingo.

  122. C.L.

    @Tony_Burke
    Does anyone still dispute the link between hate speech and violence?

    You mean, after Cardinal Pell was forcibly dragged into solitary confinement wearing handcuffs after a 15 year campaign by turds like you?

  123. Overburdened

    tonybourke demonstrates the difference between the humanistic general unconditional good regard for others that l aspire to have as a personal characteristic, and being a mealy mouthed fuck faced pos.

  124. dover_beach

    It seems the clincher was the man claiming to have confronted Tyrell in 1969.
    Tyrell left the school in 1966 and there were ample records to prove it.

    I fear for the Cardinal’s appeal. If it’s only a howler of this magnitude that saved Tyrell – rather than a total and complete absence of evidence – then GP probably won’t be acquitted.

    Yes, that gives me pause too, but the judges might also consider the statement that “he ‘parted’, then ‘pulled aside’, his robes” as a clincher too given that you can do neither in his vestments. These discrepancies, seen in the light of the absence of any corroborating evidence, and the mountain of exculpatory testimony, only appear greater and the judges might either hang their hats on the former or the latter given that they are both mutually reinforcing.

    You have to remember, it was that single mistake about the confrontation that put reasonable doubt re the sexual assaults which were alleged to have occurred when it is agreed the Christian Brother was still at the school.

  125. notafan

    Br Tyrell had to wait nine months for his appeal to be heard

    There’s justice.

  126. Tailgunner

    The livestream was crazy.
    But this is the future.
    Diversity +Proximity =War
    Told you it’s gonna get messy.

  127. Cassie of Sydney

    “@Tony_Burke
    Does anyone still dispute the link between hate speech and violence?”

    Actually Burke. you vomitous piece of shit…..there is a strong link between Islamic hate speech and violence….that’s why Mullahs and Imans incite their congregants weekly at Friday prayers…..with such pearls of hate speech as follows:

    “Judgment Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews. The Muslims will kill the Jews,”

    I’m all for banning that…you vomitous piece of shit.

  128. NZ about to be disarmed

    That may be more difficult than it was in AU.

    “You wull huv pruz it from muh culd dud hunds”

  129. C.L.

    Hope someone is keeping an eye on local and NZ jihadi hotheads.

    Fear not.
    The Afterwards Security Intelligence Organisation is guarding the gates.

  130. Snoopy

    The ALP leadership doing their best to use the attack to lure Moslem Liberal Party voters to the Labor Party.

  131. Percy Popinjay

    Shorten on Sky:
    “Don’t view the footage. Don’t share the footage. That’s what the bad people want.”
    Cut back to studio.
    Footage shown.

    LOL. The unrelenting idiocy of Australian media and politicians in a nutshell.

  132. notafan

    You have to remember, it was that single mistake about the confrontation that put reasonable doubt re the sexual assaults which were alleged to have occurred when it is agreed the Christian Brother was still at the school.

    I’m not sure about that. It is the one that the media hihglighted

    The Justices found there to be “serious discrepancies between his [the complainant] version of events and the facts that were objectively established by the evidence.”

    implies there were quite a few of them

  133. hzhousewife

    Fleeced
    #2959279, posted on March 15, 2019 at 3:38 pm

    Yes, excellent post Fleeced.

    I am going to detatch right here. The media will be ballistic swill for the forseeable.

    I’m going to get my garlic crop into the ground this weekend.

  134. Cassie of Sydney

    “@Tony_Burke
    Does anyone still dispute the link between hate speech and violence?”

    There is no dispute from me about the link between Islamic hate speech and violence…you vomitous piece of shit.

    Every Friday at prayers across the globe, mullahs and imans rally and incite their congregants with the following “peaceful” words…

    ““Judgment Day will not come until the Muslims fight the J**s. The Muslims will kill the J**s,”

    Don’t know about others…but I call that hate speech.

    Will that vomitous piece of shit called Burke call for that to be banned?

  135. Br Tyrell had to wait nine months for his appeal to be heard

    Judges have golf rounds and a few months annual leave to work through.
    Give ’em a break.

  136. Overburdened

    He would be a qualifier for the Overburdened Advanced Behavioural Management Program.

  137. The “Climate Strikers” must be Royally pissed off.
    They had their big day, & get knocked off the news totally.

  138. Cassie of Sydney

    “Socrates at the Pub
    #2959362, posted on March 15, 2019 at 4:30 pm
    The “Climate Strikers” must be Royally pissed off.
    They had their big day, & get knocked off the news totally”

    I was thinking the same.

  139. Infidel Tiger

    3 men and 1 woman in custody?

    Very fishy.

  140. Infidel Tiger

    The “Climate Strikers” must be Royally pissed off.
    They had their big day, & get knocked off the news totally.

    Big day for eco-fascists.

  141. notafan

    My guess: the complainant is yet another criminal asshole trying to plead down a head sentence for one of his own serious crimes by accusing the most lucrative mark in Victoria’s scam ecosystem: the Catholic priest, brother or swimming pool overseer you remember from your boyhood.

    Or getting a big bag of money from the new victims of sexual assault compensation scheme while squaring up with Br Tyrrell for giving him the strap.

  142. dover_beach

    implies there were quite a few of them

    I’m sure there were which is why I’m deeply heartened by this today. An innocent man will soon be free, and another shortly, I pray. And on the grounds that both verdicts were unsafe, that the evidence did not rise above the threshold, beyond a reasonable doubt.

  143. Mother Lode

    Mollie Tibbetts, a University of Iowa student found dead in August, requested his trial to be moved to a more diverse county in the state so his jury pool has more minority representation.

    The idea of a jury trial is so they are judged according to the standards of the community at large.

    Is the killer arguing that minorities should be judged according to minority standards? Either minorities judge the same way as the general community – in which case there is no need to compose a special minority jury – or the judge differently – in which case they won’t represent the jury at large and it defeats the purpose of a jury trial.

    Let us compromise by giving them a jury trial that won’t be biased in her favour: identify the undoubtedly legion minority groups with the implacable hatred toward the killer and let them decide. Win-win!

  144. I’m deeply heartened by this today

    I’m deeply fscken depressed.
    Falsely accused, imprisoned in the twilight years.
    It happened.
    It shouldn’t.

  145. dover_beach

    Windschuttle made the point that many of these trash cases have been cultivated by the shoddy practices of the Royal Commission which were called to do nothing more than self-aggrandize politicians and to settle scores.

  146. Fat Tony

    dover_beach
    #2959367, posted on March 15, 2019 at 4:34 pm
    implies there were quite a few of them

    I’m sure there were which is why I’m deeply heartened by this today. An innocent man will soon be free, and another shortly, I pray. And on the grounds that both verdicts were unsafe, that the evidence did not rise above the threshold, beyond a reasonable doubt.

    I think the word “evidence” could quite likely be replaced by “assertions” in many of these cases, especially with a view to the big payouts available.

  147. Cassie OS:

    Every Friday at prayers across the globe, mullahs and imans rally and incite their congregants with the following “peaceful” words…

    ““Judgment Day will not come until the Muslims fight the J**s. The Muslims will kill the J**s,”

    Don’t know about others…but I call that hate speech.

    Are ya sure there’s no grounds for misinterpretation or context there?

  148. Mark A

    incoherent rambler
    #2959291, posted on March 15, 2019 at 3:43 pm

    I can’t help feeling that Christian charity sometimes trumps justice when it shouldn’t.

    There is nothing Christian about letting people shit on you from a great height.

    I keep reminding peeps of this basic fact but there is no overcoming blind faith.

    They really, really must believe in a reward after life, which I suppose is no bad way to go but surely, there is room for a bit of compromise? No?

    Even JC didn’t tolerate some BS.

  149. Fat Tony

    Yeah Winston – looks like a clear case of Islamophobia to me

  150. Cassie of Sydney

    “dover_beach
    #2959371, posted on March 15, 2019 at 4:37 pm
    Windschuttle made the point that many of these trash cases have been cultivated by the shoddy practices of the Royal Commission which were called to do nothing more than self-aggrandize politicians and to settle scores.”

    Yep, particularly that practice of “repressed memory”….which is just pure bullshit….spruiked by a complete nut job called Cathy Kezelman…and guess what…she was advising the RC. When I heard that she and her bullshit theories were given prominence, I knew that the whole RC lacked any credibility.

  151. Knuckle Dragger

    Interesting that within an hour or so after the first Christchurch shots were fired, the military was on ground and going – both civil assistance and ‘kinetically survivable’ assets.

    I’m greatly reassured that should another terrorist act occur here, the specialist military operators with acknowledged counter-terror expertise will have boots on the ground to assist in resolution, to the detriment of the baddies.

    Mmmm. Hang on.

  152. Anyone else noticed how calm under pressure all the muslim interviewees in Christchurch are?
    There’s no gestures, no animation, just a calm voice while they recount their experience in what would have to be the most horrific event of most people’s lives, then say just as calmly “My wife/brother/whatever is still missing, I don’t know if they’ve survived”

  153. Seco

    Tony Burke is a lying grub, happy to spew hate against J-ws because it’s in his political self interest. How can people like him look in the mirror without wanting to neck himself? No conscience at all.

  154. Fat Tony

    Mark A
    #2959376, posted on March 15, 2019 at 4:42 pm
    Even JC didn’t tolerate some BS.

    MarkA – just to clarify, are you referring to the Cat’s JC or The JC?

  155. None

    I heard and would be happy if anyone is in a position to confirm or deny that Pell”s second jury was flown in from interstate. This doesn’t sound right to me but that’s one rumour I’ve come across.

  156. Then again, if interviews of whitey after similar catastrophes were limited to only men of retirement age who are prominent in their community, there may be the same interviews.

    Noticeably, there’s no interviews with muslim females.
    Wonder why not?

  157. None

    Just saw a photo of one Muslim outside the Chtistchurch mosque on his mobile phone
    Wearing 8th century Arab garb, beard no moustache. Probably planning reprisals.

    Now I know when you’re facing a gunman armed to the teeth like this f***** was there’s very little you can do but I noticed that unlike many of our own, the men all ran and left the elderly women and children to their own devices.

    27 dead so far. Horrific. Christchurch has never recovered from the earthquake and this they didn’t need.

  158. bespoke

    Infidel Tiger
    #2959331, posted on March 15, 2019 at 4:16 pm
    The manifesto is a giant troll to sow division.
    It’s working.

    Yep its a catalog of right wing talking points with some green stuff to confuse. He claims to be a Navy Seal and a sniper in the US armed forces. Like I said iffy.

  159. None

    Bingo. I did suggest they might bring out Tony Burke instead of Tanya Plibersek this time and of course Tony pallywood Burke playa to the cameras not because he’s really sympathetic of the victims that because he needs to hang on to his seat which is about 70% Muslim. Tony Burke would sell out Australia tomorrow if it meant he could get something for himself. Including a bit of white female pussy.

  160. Rebel with cause

    Pewdiepie isn’t so much about video games these days. Some of his stuff can be quite deep, especially by YouTube standards. For example, book reviews of some heavy texts.

    You may not like his style but he is engaging with some heavy material in a way people seem to like.

    It also helps he is witty.

    His video about respecting women is hilarious

  161. Yep, he was a “Right-Wing” terrorist.
    Scott Morrison just spoke the words.
    Thank you Scomo, I was still wondering who to vote for.

    Wowee… he’s now called it “an Extremist Right-Wing attack”

    Thanks Scomo.

  162. Mark A

    Fat Tony
    #2959382, posted on March 15, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    Mark A
    #2959376, posted on March 15, 2019 at 4:42 pm
    Even JC didn’t tolerate some BS.

    MarkA – just to clarify, are you referring to the Cat’s JC or The JC?

    I prefer not to engage with or communicate with or mention the former.

    When it comes to faith or religion and J C is mentioned, then it’s understood that The One and only is meant.

  163. Here’s a thought.
    I wonder what the nationality of the arrested ones are?
    Anyone seen a photo of them?

  164. Knuckle Dragger

    Morrison:

    “We condemn this vicious and cowardly attack by an extremist Right-wing violent terrorist”

    Two things – one, how did he work out it was right-wing inspired terrorism? Did someone tell him? Labeller!

    Two, a ‘violent terrorist’.

    As opposed to the nice ones?

  165. None

    I t this guy has taken his queues it straight out of that norwegians Playbook. He did exactly the same. He had this massive troll with all sorts of names including John Howard, the guy from the gates of Vienna etc etc. And like I said the ABC latched onto it straight away and tried the smear. But here’s a difference. Trump has got bigger guns than anyone and he’s not afraid to use them.

  166. MarkA – just to clarify, are you referring to the Cat’s JC or The JC?

    I was presuming the reference was to fellow Cat contributor John Constantine.

  167. lotocoti

    Thanks Scomo.

    He can fuck off.

  168. Good point.
    There’s an Australian banged up by Kiwiplod.
    Who are the other Three prisoners?

  169. notafan

    Counsel noted that in his evidence, the complainant stated that the abuse took place in 1965 and 1966, when he was in Grades 5 and 6 at St Joseph’s College. However, in cross-examination, it emerged that the complainant had told the police that the abuse had continued throughout 1967 and almost all of 1968. In cross-examination, the complainant agreed that he only changed his version, as to when the abuse ceased, when the police told him that the applicant was not at the school after 1966.

    oops, do the jury get told that? seems to me like the police suborned perjury here

    and he waited til his mother was dead to make the complaint

  170. Knuckle Dragger

    Snap, Socrates.

  171. None

    Noticeably, there’s no interviews with muslim females.
    Wonder why not?

    they’re probably all dead. There was one poor bastard who is roaming around saying my wife is dead my wife is dead.

  172. ABC24 to their credit point out that the words “Right-Wing” are purely those of Scomo, and have been said by nobody else, especially not by the investigating authorities in NZ.

  173. Mark A.

    I can’t help feeling that Christian charity sometimes trumps justice when it shouldn’t.
    “There is nothing Christian about letting people shit on you from a great height.”
    I keep reminding peeps of this basic fact but there is no overcoming blind faith.

    My feelings on this issue are that some Christians are moral and intellectual cowards and they use this as a shield so they don’t have to do anything – just stand back and let other Christians do the fighting and dying.

  174. Knuckle Dragger

    Morrison, on being asked how Australians should react to Christchurch:

    ‘Hug each other’

    No. Just no.

    He’s up to five ‘right-wings’ now. Taken no questions. Simpering pansy. Go hug yourself.

  175. calli

    ScoMo just lost me. He went straight for the go-to label.

    He is an intellectual mosquito.

  176. Tel

    If only New Zealand had some “sensible gun laws” … none of this would have happened.

  177. If only New Zealand had some “sensible gun laws” … none of this would have happened.

    Like concealed carry?

  178. Mark A

    Socrates at the Pub
    #2959395, posted on March 15, 2019 at 4:56 pm

    I was presuming the reference was to fellow Cat contributor John Constantine.

    Fine fellow, don’t always agree, but that’t the way it should be.

  179. Colonel Crispin Berka, King's Fusiliers Corps.

    Being a sheltered latte’-sipping city-slicker, I just have one question for worldly Cats about the alleged farewell messages from the Christchurch mass murderer.

    Who the hell in Australia today refers to anyone else honestly as “cobbers”?
    [ https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=ComFJ_1552618139 ]

    Because in my limited experience, nobody talks like that. It’s an anachronism dredged up from the 1950s at the latest. Which at the very least shows the unsurprising insincerity or derangement of someone oblivious to the gravitas of planning a mass murder, and at most casts doubt on the authenticity of the 8chan post (if not the docs linked from it).

  180. Morrison, on being asked how Australians should react to Christchurch:
    ‘Hug each other’

    Seriously?
    FMD.

  181. None

    Forget about Bucky Beaver trying to take away the Kiwis guns he we have Labor Greens on a full-on assault trying to take away our freedom of speech. What’s fuckers.
    Someone tell Tony Burke that day in day out Bill Shorten the multi-millionaire tells us that we should hate the rich but nobody has shot him yet.

  182. Knuckle Dragger

    I see the spastic herder (h/t Mole) has yet to offer his opinion that the Christchurch shooting was directly attributable to Trump and those working for the butcher’s apron, and that it was also retaliation for Australia introducing conscription.

    Give it time. He’s yet to finish his box of crayons.

  183. Makka

    ScoMo just lost me.

    And plenty more too, no doubt. Stupid.Fking.Liberals.

  184. bespoke

    Have you gone back to work Mark, or are you still sorting the stiletto collection?

  185. amortiser

    I had an interesting afternoon at the kids strike at Queens park in Brisbane.

    When I arrived at about 11:30 it was pretty quiet but a interactive power driven display was being set up. All driven by fossil fuels lol.

    I got into a discussion with a guy wearing a Che t-shirt. He was all for nuclear power but his leaflet stated that China was leading the way in reducing CO2 emissions. When I pointed out that China was building copious numbers of coal fired power stations he reckoned that because they were using more and more wind and solar then all was good.

    When I pointed out that every coal fired power station added to Co2 emissions things turned ugly. Now I’m 5ft 4ins, weigh 62 kg and am 67 years old. This guy was about 30 yo, was about 5ft 10 or thereabouts and weighed about 80 kg.

    “He’s threatening me, he’s threatening me”, he started shouting. Amazing!!! The marshals moved in and led me away saying that it was a safe place for everybody. I told them that it was a public place and I wasn’t threatening anybody which was obvious.

    When challenged they go to water and put on a display. I’ll bet that’s what he does when dealing with police lol.

    So went encounter one.

  186. FMD, that pussy, Scott Morrison told us twice to hug each other tonight.

  187. Knuckle Dragger

    I suspect that by now every hardware store in UnZud will be sold out of PVC pipe, caps and glue, as well as grease. And shovels.

    If anyone honestly believes there aren’t tens of thousands of semi-automatic rifles and pump action shotguns buried in paddocks and backyards all across our fair nation, they’re kidding themselves.

    Thank God no-one’s thinking of banning Lion Brown. Yet.

  188. Confused Old Misfit

    Knuckle Dragger
    #2959421, posted on March 15, 2019 at 5:17 pm

    Shhhhhhhh!

  189. DrBeauGan

    He’s threatening me, he’s threatening me”, he started shouting.

    You were. You were producing facts and arguments. For lefties that’s brutality and inhuman cruelty.

  190. lotocoti

    Where’s the warning against the dreaded backlash, scomo?

  191. Mark A

    bespoke
    #2959418, posted on March 15, 2019 at 5:13 pm

    Have you gone back to work Mark, or are you still sorting the stiletto collection?

    Two more months of forced long service leave before I go back to work.
    We have been around AUS 3 times already, not to mention that towing a caravan is not my fav. diversion.

    Cruise? you’d have to drag me screaming and kicking onto one of those floating RSL clubs.
    Only thing saving me from going bonkers is the work on the family farm, ran out of maintenance on the house, even went up the roof and replaced the corroded TV antenna.

    Buying a house in Europe and stay for good, coming back for holidays when we feel like it or for family emergencies.
    Gifting the house to the only daughter the two boys are all set up.
    That’s the plan anyway.

  192. I’ll take Scomo’s advice to heart, & use his method to help some of the superduperhotpants backpacker chicks here to “deal with the tragedy”

    My defence in court will be that I was acting on the advice of the Prime Minister.

  193. Amortiser:

    When challenged they go to water and put on a display. I’ll bet that’s what he does when dealing with police lol.

    No. He didn’t go to water – he demonstrated quite effectively that he had authority (the Marshalls ) on his side and he could use them to shut you up.
    So who won the verbal battle?
    He did, because he had you removed from the field and stopped your message from being heard.

  194. amortiser

    Encounter no 2.

    There were a group of 3 kids with a couple of adults in tow. One young lady, about 14, was holding a sign which said something to the effect that the planet will end in 11 years if action is not taken.

    So I went to her and politely asked her what she meant by the sign.

    “If we don’t do something about CO 2 emissions the planet will become uninhabitable for humans”, she said.

    “So you think that 7 billion humans will die in 11 years,” I said.

    Here one of the adults intervened.

    “You have just picked on her because she is the youngest”, he said.

    “No, I asked her to explain the sign because she was displaying it” I said.

    “You have brought her here to a political rally with this sign when she can’t explain what it actually means. You are using a minor for political purposes and you don’t want to be called out on it” I said.

    There ended encounter 2

  195. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Roger #2959221, posted on March 15, 2019 at 3:04 pm

    A Leftist, in other words.

    Whom the mediacracy will no doubt describe as an “extreme right winger”

    Our prime minister did just that in the sound bite they played in the 5.00 news.

  196. Snoopy

    Infidel Tiger
    #2959385, posted on March 15, 2019 at 4:49 pm
    https://www.scribd.com/

    Gorn?

  197. Black Ball

    Doesn’t matter. He is white and an extremist therefore he is “right wing”.

    I believe Scomo did say it was a right wing attack.

  198. Roger

    Morrison:

    “We condemn this vicious and cowardly attack by an extremist Right-wing violent terrorist”

    …how did he work out it was right-wing inspired terrorism?

    He was no doubt briefed by Duncan Lewis, who’ll soon be calling for extra resources to combat “right wing terrorism”.

  199. I believe Scomo did say it was a right wing attack.

    Can confirm, he said it about a half-dozen times.
    He also said we should hug each other to deal with it.

  200. Snoopy

    We can’t be trusted.

  201. Black Ball

    Can confirm, he said it about a half-dozen times.

    Confirms his political leanings.

  202. Confirms his political leanings.

    You shoulda heard the tone of voice he used when he told us to all hug each other.
    I’m starting to think Prime Minister Horsey Chops in NZ is the more capable of dealing with this.

  203. notafan

    Another interesting point from that judgement

    accuser has two criminal old criminal convictions, on neither occasion did he bring up abuse when the opportunity arose

    Ricther was not allowed to get this information in relation to one of the Cardinal Pell accusers (not clear which one but could be AA)

    135 In 1976, the complainant came before the Parramatta District Court on criminal charges, including a charge of manslaughter and a charge of robbery. He pleaded guilty to those charges. At his plea, he was represented by counsel and a solicitor. Before the plea he gave details to his lawyers concerning his background, including the fact that his father was a drunk and violent man who subjected him to beatings. He did not, however, tell his lawyers about the abuse that he had received from the applicant.

    136 Nineteen years later, in 1995, the complainant pleaded guilty, before the Melbourne County Court, to one charge of intentionally causing serious injury. The charge concerned an incident in which the complainant shot a man in the arm in the course of a dispute. The complainant was, again, represented by counsel and a solicitor. In cross-examination in the present case, he agreed that, at that time, he knew that it was relevant for his lawyers to obtain information about his background for the purposes of the plea in mitigation of sentence to be made on his behalf. However, although on that occasion he told the lawyers about the violence and drunkenness of his father and the environment in which he grew up, he did not tell them anything about the abuse that had been perpetrated on him by the applicant.

  204. Muddy

    The only comment I will make on the Christchurch tragedy regards the use of the term radicalized. It is a bullshit term normally used as an abrogation of personal responsibility. The simplistic, linear, and politically-motivated notion that an otherwise healthy-in-all-respects individual who absorbs the influence of another for a period of time, will be triggered by that absorbed influence to radically change both their thoughts and their behaviour as an unconscious response, is not based on reality.

  205. Knuckle Dragger

    amortiser,

    Doing God’s work. Love it.

    Bring me back a Che T shirt so I can burn it on Facebook.

  206. None

    You have to learn to listen to me people. I’ve been warning you about scomoll ( for a mI’ll he is) for years right from when he was Immigration Minister in opposition. He got sacked from being a CEO for tourism Australia. How the hell can you get sacked from such a pussy no job. How incompetent do you have to be?

  207. None

    Ok here’s a better picture of the 8th century man outside of the Christchurch mosque. He seems to have a Mo after all so maybe he’s not planning Reprisals https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/15/12/38/shooting-christchurch-news-new-zealand

    honestly anyone who dresses like that should be banned from Western countries. There is no way you’re going to get a job dressed like that and everybody else gets punished if they don’t rock up in a suit for their job interviews etc etc.

  208. notafan

    Where are the lone wolves now?

  209. Knuckle Dragger

    Death toll now 40 and climbing.

    Cop that Martin Bryant!

  210. None

    Well done amortiser. And what a gutless coward was Mr Che Guevara and some people wonder how false accusations can be made against people like Pell.

  211. amortiser

    Encounter no 3

    There was a lady probably in her 70s standing with a sign which said Action required, ask me why”.

    Someone wanted to engage, I thought. I asked her, pointing to her sign if she was serious. She said yes.

    So I asked her what she thought was required. We need to transition to 100% renewables by 2030 she said

    11 years? I said

    Yes, she said

    South Australia and Victoria have moved down this track and it is a disaster, I said

    They haven’t done it right, she said.

    It’s a serious engineering problem dealing with renewables on a grid. South Australia can’t use more than 1300 mwh of renewables otherwise the grid becomes unstable, I said

    This is what happens when politicians take over engineering problems, I said

    The generators are getting out of coal, she said.

    That because of the subsidies to renewables, I said. Retailers have to pay $80 or thereabouts a mwh to renewable generators for every mwh they produce.

    AGL are getting out of coal, she said.

    Notice they won’t sell Liddell to another operator. They have copious supplies of gas and will make a fortune doing that as long as coal is out of the way, I said.

    So on it went. I don’t think anyone had ever challenged her reality. At least it was a civil discussion.

    So ended encounter 3

  212. Empire 5:5

    I watched the livestream.

    The shooter is unusually calm, breathes slowly and returns to “double tap” victims. That isn’t typical for a first timer going postal. The manifesto was allegedly composed in a day, but I didn’t pick up any spelling/grammatical errors on first pass. It’s as odd as it is tragic.

    Whatever the media or fuzz says about the shooter at this point is pure speculation.

  213. Snoopy

    I trust for his sake Brenton Tarrant has an eclectic taste in music.

    Influential extremist preacher Robert Cerantonio, who led a failed plot to sail to the Philippines in a “boat that could have sunk in a bath tub”, doesn’t fit the profile of an Islamic extremist partly because of his “eclectic taste” in music, his lawyer has told a Melbourne court.

  214. None

    Pity you didn’t a camera filming The encounter with amortizer because then you could have lodged a complaint with the police someone making a false report.

  215. JC

    The shooter is unusually calm, breathes slowly and returns to “double tap” victims

    He may be ex military.

  216. Mater

    I suspect that by now every hardware store in UnZud will be sold out of PVC pipe, caps and glue, as well as grease. And shovels.

    His stated reason for using the weapons he did was to create a division over the issue of gun ownership. He wants very much for the establishment to come for the guns.
    The left will undoubtedly cater to his desires.

    Let me be clear. We don’t even need to speculate that he did this to expedite the banning of weapons…he stated it clearly as an aim.

  217. None

    70 year old at a protest by school children. FMD

  218. bespoke

    He may be ex military.

    He claims to be ex Navy Seal and a sniper in the US armed forces.

  219. None

    That’s something I could never do Empire. Unless it is part of my job I refuse to put such s*** inside my head. You can’t unsee things and I certainly don’t want to become numb to such things either.

  220. JC

    Bespoke

    I’m late into this as I’ve been busy.. but isn’t the shooter supposedly Australian?

  221. Oh come on

    I agree with IT – the manifesto reads like a red herring to me.

  222. Mater

    He may be ex military.

    No. His weapon handling and stoppage drills were shit and his method was haphazard.
    He even needed to use a GPS to find his target.
    He is a relative novice who hit a soft target in a high trust country.

  223. bespoke

    Whatever is in that manifesto should not be taken literally.

  224. Empire 5:5

    None
    #2959463, posted on March 15, 2019 at 5:53 pm
    That’s something I could never do Empire. Unless it is part of my job I refuse to put such s*** inside my head. You can’t unsee things and I certainly don’t want to become numb to such things either

    Fair enough.

    In a world presently deceived by lies and deception, I choose to know. It isn’t for everybody.

  225. Tel

    The shooter is unusually calm, breathes slowly and returns to “double tap” victims. That isn’t typical for a first timer going postal.

    How did they catch him so easily, if he’s that good?

  226. Natural Instinct

    From the Spectator article ( see post “And the green grass grows all around, all around”)
    .

    Real grownups will observe there’s a reason school kids aren’t allowed to get married, sign contracts, fight for their nation, get a driver’s licence, drink alcohol, smoke tobacco products, or vote on matters of national importance. Their developing brains aren’t mature enough to weigh the balance of evidence, consider all the consequences and make objectively rational decisions. They can barely cross the road safely or wear clothes properly. They are important, but they are children – undeveloped clumps of cells if you prefer.

  227. None

    40. That is just horrid.

  228. JC

    He even needed to use a GPS to find his target.

    Explain.

  229. Knuckle Dragger

    From watching my teenager playing first person shooter games, the ‘double tap’ function is inbuilt in most of them.

    Also, the “Navy SEAL/sniper” claimed that ‘fortnite taught me how to kill’

    I go back to the use of the shotgun. There is no way he is at all competent with that weapon platform so for mine it’s no SEAL, no nothing. I’d be surprised if he was in the military at all.

  230. 1735099

    Strong, defiant performance from NZ PM.
    Respect….

  231. bespoke

    Yes JC. The manifesto is linked up thread.

  232. Nelson Kidd-Players

    #illridewithcandace

    …but please don’t tell my wife…

  233. JC

    Oh come on
    #2959466, posted on March 15, 2019 at 5:55 pm

    I agree with IT – the manifesto reads like a red herring to me.

    There are some real fucking loons around. Don’t underestimate the lunacy angle.

  234. None

    Oh I’m not telling you not to watch Empire and perhaps I should be grateful that some people watch so that I don’t have to.

  235. JC

    Bespoke

    I tried linking to it, but I think it’s been rubbed out, no? Of course the security services are very busy making sure the web is safe. 🙂

  236. Mater

    Explain.

    He follows GPS verbal directions to find the Mosque.

  237. dover_beach

    Some moron on twitter, when presented with the quashing of conviction today, argues that this doesn’t mean the defendant is innocent, only that his guilt has not be proven.

    This will be what will befall Pell too if the Court of Appeal quashes his conviction.

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