Liberals’ heart has been hollowed out

Today in The Australian

With the opinion polls showing no improvement in its prospects, any remaining optimists in the Coalition look increasingly like wishful sinkers.

The end, when it comes, will leave plenty of scope for recriminations; as ministers and members pack up their offices, blame is the one thing that will not be in short supply. The question, however, is to understand the broader forces at work.

About Henry Ergas

Henry Ergas AO is a columnist for The Australian. From 2009 to 2015 he was Senior Economic Adviser to Deloitte Australia and from 2009 to 2017 was Professor of Infrastructure Economics at the University of Wollongong’s SMART Infrastructure Facility. He joined SMART and Deloitte after working as a consultant economist at NECG, CRA International and Concept Economics. Prior to that, he was an economist at the OECD in Paris from the late 1970s until the early 1990s. At the OECD, he headed the Secretary-General’s Task Force on Structural Adjustment (1984-1987), which concentrated on improving the efficiency of government policies in a wide range of areas, and was subsequently Counsellor for Structural Policy in the Economics Department. He has taught at a range of universities, undertaken a number of government inquiries and served as a Lay Member of the New Zealand High Court. In 2016, he was made an Officer in the Order of Australia.
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54 Responses to Liberals’ heart has been hollowed out

  1. Mr Johnson

    I tried hard to come back after last election where I refused to vote for the Libs for the first time in 25 years. But Morrison is just so bet-each-way that it’s proving infuriating. He kept Abbott out of his ministry, probably as payment to the wets for installing him as PM. But even now with them all jumping ship (and crapping on him and the party), he still prefers to see Abbott as the wrecker and instead fight for renewables over coal. The thought of a Shorten government is horrifying. But now I’m thinking the consolation prize may be a new look Lib Party and a new leader.

  2. Bruce of Newcastle

    It’s the Liberals’ brain that has been hollowed out, not their heart.

    Crazy that they keep burning the base. And no they won’t allow their preferences to flow back to you because they are furious. Talk about political insanity or what?

  3. Antipostmodernism

    The Right is weakened by representatives who have no ticker and don’t appear to believe in anything beyond some nebulous sense of public service duty. ‘Moderates’ think there is honour being above the fray of ugly culture wars, so they don’t participate in contesting big ideas, and their their wishy-washy pacifism ultimately results in a less moderate Australia, and the Left fills the political space instead and they don’t feel hamstrung by any sense of ethics and do ‘whateverittakes’ to change society. Why are human rights effectively a Marxist charter? Because the Right doesn’t get in there a fight that culture from preschool up that produces it.

    As much as I prefer the individual ethos of the Right, the lack of collective consciousness makes us fractious and lack direction and discipline. People on the Right often are just not very politically minded and find stuff like freedom of speech debates distant and abstract from their lives whereas for the Left their politics is central to their self image so they are highly energised.

    There aren’t many viable options for the Right to vote for and this is a failure for our democracy. It’s a choice between the LNP that refuses to fight for core liberal values, or a parade of angry Queenslander shooting stars who just aren’t up to it and invariably become a circus and fight amongst themselves. The Right should be performing better because we have reality and a good track record on our side and there are still more sensible people than Left nutters and tyrants, but the Left are great at marketing bullshit, and we have allowed the language to be stolen for their power games and it is now dangerous to even say two plus two equals four. The LNP does almost nothing about it. In fact the Right has let itself be banned from polite conversation even in its own natural domains. Indeed I now struggle to have my opinions published in The Australian, an ostensibly Right wing paper. We can’t blame the Left if we accept our own banishment.

    The Right is on the backfoot everywhere because the Left fringe fights politics hard in every aspect of society on a 24/7 basis like Daleks. They spam fake complaints, write tomorrow’s news today, and have made even moderate people appear deplorable, and until the Right similarly declares total war and stops serving us up nice timewasters like Bishop and Pyne we will continue to be trounced by the army of willful stupidity and childish resentment.

  4. John Constantine

    Reports that their shorten looting cartel has requested that they begin calling in public servants for self critique sessions already, so the orderly transition to an Australia of vengeful purges and reprisals can begin.

    Comrades.

  5. Baldrick

    It’s the Photios/Textor effect:
    “The qualitative evidence is they (Conservatives) don’t matter. The sum of a more centrist approach outweighs any alleged marginal loss of so-called base voters.”

  6. OldOzzie

    My Selection for NSW Legislative Assembly Election 21 March 2019 Manly

    I bluntly don’t want to vote for any of them James GRIFFIN LIBERAL Mother is a Greens Councilor and he comes across as a committed Greenie, the rest a bunch of Losers – actually I may have to vote Labor

    CANDIDATES

    PALETTO Emanuele
    SUSTAINABLE AUSTRALIA

    GLANVILLE Kristyn
    THE GREENS

    GRIFFIN James
    LIBERAL

    MURRAY Dane
    KEEP SYDNEY OPEN

    PHILLIPS-MASON Natasha
    LABOR

    PATERSON Kate
    ANIMAL JUSTICE PARTY

    In the NSW Legislative Council Ballot Paper

    Boy what a Behmouth – will print out abd start practicing numbering below the line – Latham 1, LEYONHJELM
    David
    LIBERAL DEMOCRATS 2, then all Australian Conservatives, PHON, Shooters working way to Liberals/Labor/Greens last – should be fun and take a long time

  7. Herodotus

    Henry’s summary of the woes of conservatism ties in with Paul Joseph Watson’s speech (You Tube) on the decline and fall of civilisations. It’s not just the Liberal Party that has been hollowed out, it’s modern western society.

  8. candy

    Malcolm Turnbull stealing the top job was when the rot set in. He is not an honourable man.

  9. Behind Enemy Lines

    Antipostmodernism
    #2958785, posted on March 15, 2019 at 7:53 am
    The Right is weakened by representatives who have no ticker and don’t appear to believe in anything. . . . The Right is on the backfoot everywhere because the Left fringe fights politics hard in every aspect of society on a 24/7 basis . . . until the Right similarly declares total war and stops serving us up nice timewasters like Bishop and Pyne we will continue to be trounced by the army of willful stupidity and childish resentment.

    Well said.

    I read Henry’s article at the Australian. While there is a lot of sense in it, there are two things I would add that are relevant here. First, when he writes about the “broader forces at work”, he says that (unlike the ‘northern’ part of the West) Australia’s middle classes have lurched left, evidently on a permanent basis. I have my doubts about this. I remember when the lefties in the US were crowing about “we’re all socialists now” and then celebrating Prince Hussein’s second ascendancy to the Presidency. And yet, here we are in 2019 (!) and that leftwards lurch doesn’t seem permanent. Not at all. IMHO, we saw the existing left turn out in force and get into a virtue-signalling spiral of craziness, while a lot of normal people just stayed home. I’m always pessimistic about politics, I sense that in Australia we may yet see different “broader forces”, broader forces that lead to a correction. Not necessarily in a libertarian direction; more likely, heritage Australians become a much more vocal and demanding part of the Free Stuff Army.

    The point Henry seems to downplay is where Antipostmodernism comes in. We presently have the crappest political class ever, and the Libs are the crappest of the lot. The ALP and Greens are perfectly open about their plans to wreck the country. Anyone dumb enough to vote for them deserves what they eventually get. But at least they’re relatively honest about being crooks. But the Libs . . . the Libs . . . sweet Jesus what a sackful of selfish, incompetent, mediocre traitors to the cause of sensible government. They pretend to be Libs, and then advance the ALP / Greens agenda. Talk about “broader forces at work”! It’s not (only) that they lack political capital, as Henry said; that’s merely a symptom. The problem is the Libs long-running betrayal of their voters, their constant promotion of ALP fifth columnists into the parliamentary party, and evident inability to learn anything along the way.

    I see no reason to think the party leadership can be saved from itself. But if enough of them are sent packing at the next election, perhaps the Young Turks can get in there and put things right. Only if the party is absolutely smashed at the next election, though.

    My sense is that we’re getting ALP/Greens government, no matter what I want. My plan is to vote independent if I can, and otherwise I’ll be voting informal.

  10. Mark M

    Economic conservative coalition’ers, Where the heck are you?

    The Reserve Bank has warned it will have to take the impact of [global warming] into account when setting interest rates.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-12/reserve-bank-warns-of-impact-of-climate-change-on-the-economy/10893792

    If the RBA knew of the economically devistating FNQ floods of 2019, why didn’t it warn us?

    What does the ‘science’ say?

    Remember also that the UN Climate Panel estimated that the economic impacts of climate would be “small” compared to most other impacts from changes in “population, age, income, technology, relative prices, lifestyle, regulation, governance” etc.

    – chapter 10:
    – key economic sectors and services
    – (page 662)
    Executive summary

    https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/WGIIAR5-Chap10_FINAL.pdf

  11. Ubique

    The Libs are still chasing rainbows 🌈 and Green votes. They have failed to comprehend that they could make gay marriage compulsory, close every coal fired power station and mandate 100 percent renewables and still not win over a single Green voter.

  12. NuThink

    Mr Johnson
    #2958751, posted on March 15, 2019 at 7:07 am
    But now I’m thinking the consolation prize may be a new look Lib Party and a new leader.

    Maybe not a “new leader of the same ilk” but just a real Leader, something they have not had in a long time.
    I had high hopes for Abbott until he appointed Natasha Stott Despoja, then Turnbull was a leaker but not a leader and has morphed into a miserable ghost (or always was one), and as for ScoMo the weather vane it seems that he depends on which way the wind is blowing. I have no idea what he stands for.

  13. Cassie of Sydney

    “Antipostmodernism
    #2958785, posted on March 15, 2019 at 7:53 am”

    Good post Ant. In July last year, about six weeks before Turdbull fell on his own sword (which is what it was…he was the architect of his own demise), I ran into John Howard walking along the street here in Sydney’s CBD. I decided to stop and regale him. I remember the exchange very clearly and here is the conversation between us..

    I said…”Mr Howard…you cannot possibly be happy with this current so called Liberal government”.

    Mr Howard…”well it’s better than the alternative”.

    I replied…”that’s not good enough!”

    He feebly nodded in agreement…he is getting on. But this shows the utter complacency of the right and its so called leaders including Howard. Very few of our conservative/liberal or libertarian leaders want to fight. There are only one or two who are willing to speak up and fight are they are David Leyenjhelm and Pauline Hanson. Cory Bernardi is well intentioned but he is missing in action. Sometimes to get traction you need to be “controversial” and be willing to speak one’s mind. Too many of them are spineless, craven, cowardly and supine. Abbott and Joyce only speak up now because both of them have been sin binned to the backbench. Where was Abbott on 18C when PM? He was spineless.

    I then said to Mr Howard…

    “Mr Howard, the right and this government in particular are NOT fighting the culture wars…this is the war being fought across the western world. This is why Trump won. This is why people voted for Brexit. We need to fight the culture wars…we need men and women with spine to take the fight to the the Marxist left…nobody is doing this.”.

    Again he nodded in agreement.

    And then we parted ways.

  14. Cassie of Sydney

    “Ubique
    #2958859, posted on March 15, 2019 at 9:51 am
    The Libs are still chasing rainbows 🌈 and Green votes. They have failed to comprehend that they could make gay marriage compulsory, close every coal fired power station and mandate 100 percent renewables and still not win over a single Green voter.”

    Bingo! And you know what…it is utterly pathetic to watch.

  15. Cassie of Sydney

    And where have the right been over the last decade fighting the hysteria of “climate change”….they have been mute, missing in action or just cowardly. Even Abbott signed us up to Paris….Turd ratified it. So because of their utter cravenness, their cretinous cowardice and their utter stupidity, we have reached a situation where even school children have now been turned into grotesque little totalitarian activist monsters, straight out of a Stalinist handbook from 1930’s Soviet Russia.

    Soon we’ll have school children “dobbing” in parents who are climate change deniers…just like teenagers in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia did.

  16. stackja

    Takes a lot of heart to fight ‘AGW’ zealots, a compliant MSM and gullible voters. TA did in 2013 then came MT.

  17. Speedbox

    Antipostmodernism and Behind Enemy Lines.

    Bravo. Well said those men.

    They spam fake complaints, write tomorrow’s news today, and have made even moderate people appear deplorable…..

    As much as I detest the Left I will admit to being impressed (and infuriatingly jealous) of their ability, at a moments notice, to prepare and issue press releases, marshal their troops to deluge Twitter and others social media forums, have a spokesperson’s commentary played on radio within 10 minutes and be fronting a TV crew within 30.

    The media, for their part, are generally lazy in an environment that demands near instant reporting of “news”. How many times (a day!) do we see trending Twitter tweets regurgitated as a news story. Thus, when handed a press release with a ready made spokesperson available etc, for a news story, they will grab it with both hands without question. That is also fits (or reinforces) the reporter’s established bias is a happy bonus.

    Meanwhile, the Libs and the conservative ‘machine’ are helplessly looking around like a confused puppy. As you so accurately said: …the Left fringe fights politics hard in every aspect of society on a 24/7 basis like Daleks.

    We are being exterminated by superior tactics.

  18. Cynic of Ayr

    It’s quite simple.
    The Libs, Nats and LNP are mostly cowards. Very few are not, and the Party hierarchy ignores them.
    Gut-less, spine-less, ball-less, ovary-less cowards.
    Add in blind as bats well. And stupid. Too blind and stupid to see what happened to the other Countries that went down the renewable track. Disaster.
    But, like Socialists, they think they can do it differently and change the outcome.
    (Did I mention some are Socialists? I didn’t? Apologies. Some are Socialists.)
    Observe Trump. Like him or not, I see Trump as two things. An American Patriot. A fighter. Fearless. (That’s three. I lost count.) None of those attributes apply to the above GSBOCS.
    I wrote to my Fed Member. I swore in frustration.
    The result? No reply from the Member, but a note from his Secretary, addressing my bad language, but nothing about the complaints themselves. I guess she was triggered, poor dear.
    My membership resignation letter is written, just waiting for the straw that will inevitably arrive.

  19. Jo Smyth

    With a Shorten and Union led Government, the best hope is the opposite in the Senate with the Australian Conservatives and One Nation and others picking up as many seats as possible. Most of these Liberals now have no business calling themselves Liberals because they have shown their true colours.

  20. Antipostmodernism

    I’m going to apply the issues here to the NSW election. The Coalition should be miles ahead in the polls but they don’t sell themselves well. The pace of population growth and development is a big deal in Sydney and the Coalition is getting blamed even though they aren’t responsible for immigration. As usual Labor is taking the low road to power and is promising to NOT build things, and always the refrain “ït’s a slap in the face to the people of Western Sydney”, and the bloody “schools and hospitals” shtick. Then there is the class warfare with the stadium.

    Sure Labor talks crap continuously but everyone knows exactly what Labor stands for as a brand and who they represent. Meanwhile the Coalition don’t have a clear message or express any sense of values or say they represent anyone in particular and they don’t get on the front foot and dismantle Labor’s tawdry act the way Coalition voters would expect. Population growth without development is a terrible idea so say it. Tell voters that Labor’s corrupt, do-nothing patronage machine has not changed. If three word slogans work than use them. Fight dirty. It’s like Labor are cage fighters and the Coalition obey quaint rules of polite engagement.

    Labor is so focused on power it is even doing deals with the Shooters and Fishers who have nothing in common but our Right leaders seem ashamed of their own voters values. What people are forgetting is that the immigrants flooding Sydney typically have conservative social views and so social conservatism is not going away but growing. That’s an opportunity for the Right. The Left seem more numerous than they really are because they are so good at puffing themselves up and dominating a room like they do on Q&A.

    Labor governments lose office because they are manifestly corrupt, incompetent, chaotic spendthifts, with loony social engineering fetishes. The Liberals lose elections because, even if they perform adequately, the people get bored, and our fake Right representatives don’t have a narrative, values, dependable friends appointed everywhere, or a will to win, and are easily overwhelmed by fear campaigns and bribes. In short, the Right vote is proportionately underrepresented in our parliaments and public institutions because only one side is authentic, fearless, and pragmatic.

  21. RobK

    Here in WA, the Libs have made the Labor State Government look good. Labor has pulled the plug on funding an ocean wave power generation scheme, and made the EPA do a double take on a carbon mitigation scheme. Now, sure, there’s theatre involved, but it shows more determination than their predecessors who couldn’t fight a wetlands policy, nor set up a decently planned massive industrial hub in the NW. I think the comment about the demise of western culture is close to the mark.

  22. Slim Cognito

    After the coalition get slaughtered at the next election, the only issue will be whether the remnants learn from the lesson and get back to conservative principles or move further to the left leaving room for others to rise on the right. My bet is on the latter if recent history is anything to go by.

  23. Russell

    Now I know they aren’t the brightest kids on the block, but I have always thought that Real Estate agents could be the “young turks” that we need to pull the Libs out of this infiltration by leftist rabbits. They are generally tenacious fighters, they understand entrepreneurialism and with so much competition many must be looking for a fresh career. Yes – many people think real estate selling is a con job but we need to find a new and modern development strategy for the Party.

  24. Muddy

    We are being exterminated by superior tactics.

    I partly disagree. The so-called ‘Right’ (I’m still seeking a more effective label) lacks strategy, or even the acknowledgement that strategy is needed. Our opponents’ tactics (the means of acting upon the strategy) are not superior, it is simply that they are willing and able, as others have noted above, to employ those tactics in the face of a negligible defense. These enemies take minimal risk and operate from within the protection of that which they seek to destroy (like parasites). There is a reason why rabid feminism, for example, does not target FGM, honour killings, child marriage, etc. They know they cannot compete with, or even stand toe-to-toe with, the systems behind those particular issues. They know that the response will be rapid, and merciless.

    An active, at least partially co-ordinated defense would increase the risks to the risk-averse, and perhaps force them to adapt their tactics (type, frequency, intensity, etc).

  25. Cassie of Sydney

    Does anyone seriously think….for one minute….that if a conservative/Liberal leader or MP had been the subject of the same allegation that the current leader of the Labor party was accused of…that the Labor party would not have used it for political gain? I mean, look no further than the Foley episode here in NSW….the ABC and much of the media were quite happy keeping schtum about the incident in the bar with the ABC journo…imagine if that had been Abbott or anyone else in the Liberal party. If that had been Abbott or any other Catholic conservative there is NO WAY that the ABC and Fauxfax would have sat on that for two years.

    And therein lies the rub….the right will continue to lose if they persist in using Queensberry Rules when the left are using Alinsky.

    Trump knows this.

  26. Roger

    It’s not just the Liberal Party that has been hollowed out, it’s modern western society.

    Spot on.

    We’ve got cultural amnesia.

    All institutions have been hollowed out as a result and occupied by Leftists.

  27. NB

    It is baffling that the Libs are unable to promulgate an alternative narrative. They seem more like a wing of the ALP, with no narrative of their own. The left agenda just slows up a bit when the Libs are in. Weird. Leyonhjelm and his crew for me.

  28. Old School Conservative

    Today’s striking kids are right- the world only has 11 years left. But it’s the economic policies of the left, not climate change, that will destroy us.

  29. Muddy

    As I’ve suggested previously, one of the first steps is to neutralize the enablers, like the ABC and Fauxfax as Cassie mentions above. Think of these enablers as the legs of an old-fashioned timber chair/stool. Remove or weaken the legs, and the seat can no longer perform the function it was designed for. A seat laying on the ground is not a chair, and has no useful purpose. Discard it.

    Deal with the legs of the chair that support the seat [and backrest if you want one of those].
    Simply looking at the seat and scolding it (“Bad chair!”) will achieve nothing, because it can feel the legs supporting it, and knows that with these legs/supports in place, it can continue to perform the function of a chair, regardless of minor surface chips and scratches.

    Identify and target the enablers.

  30. Dorothy

    I have emailed and phoned the offices of Tony Abbott, Craig Kelly, Matt Canavan and Peter Dutton telling them that until they stop all sudsidies to renewables and pull out of Paris the Libs will not get my vote … there is no point in voting at all. As hideous as is the thought of Labour being in power, perhaps it will be the catalyst for the Libs to pull their socks up and start being true conservatives. Tony Abbott suddenly saying there is now no need to pull out of Paris was the final nail in the coffin for me, and then Peter Dutton and Matt Canavan going all stupid on coal and gas, give me strength…. are they actually trying to loose the election!!!

  31. Muddy

    We have watched dispassionately and disinterested while All institutions have been hollowed out

    Sorry, Roger. I felt a need to adjust that. Stating that ‘it happened’ continues the myth that we here, now, have been responsible for permitting this destruction to occur. Either we rise to the occasion and defend the legacy of our ancestors, or we are erased from history. My bet is the latter, sadly. Those Who Never Existed.

  32. Habib

    Fixing the liberal party is easy, grow a pair of bollocks, purge the wets, start espousing (and implementing) free market ideas and actual classic liberal values, and tell the left to collectively go fuck itself, and cut off its funding.

    These mongs are incapable of any of this, and thus, like us are doomed. Only salvation is a completely feral senate, but these evil swine along with their partners labor and the greens have probably nobbled that.

    Unless we start spinning up the turbines in a fleet of helicopters, we deserve everything that’s coming.

  33. Behind Enemy Lines

    I think I’m going to just start quoting Antipostmodernism instead of writing my own replies. Anyway, this is a key issue: the Coalition’s parliamentarians are not on our side.

    Antipostmodernism
    #2958910, posted on March 15, 2019 at 11:02 am
    Labor is so focused on power it is even doing deals with the Shooters and Fishers who have nothing in common but our Right leaders seem ashamed of their own voters’ values.

    And Muddy has the second key issue: the Coalition lacks all strategy and is crap at tactics.

    Muddy
    #2958929, posted on March 15, 2019 at 11:18 am
    The so-called ‘Right’ (I’m still seeking a more effective label) lacks strategy, or even the acknowledgement that strategy is needed. Our opponents’ tactics (the means of acting upon the strategy) are not superior, it is simply that they are willing and able, as others have noted above, to employ those tactics in the face of a negligible defense. These enemies take minimal risk and operate from within the protection of that which they seek to destroy (like parasites).

    Herodotus is correct about western society . . . but to a certain extent this has always been true. The broadly conservative position is that western society is a garden that needs constant attention.

    Herodotus
    #2958816, posted on March 15, 2019 at 8:27 am
    It’s not just the Liberal Party that has been hollowed out, it’s modern western society.

    And on the national political stage, if we keep doing the same things, we’ll keep getting the same results.

    Antipostmodernism
    #2958910, posted on March 15, 2019 at 11:02 am
    . . . the Right vote is proportionately underrepresented in our parliaments and public institutions because only one side is authentic, fearless, and pragmatic.

    So I return to my favourite question. What strategy? What plan?

  34. Lilliana

    Cassie of Sydney

    You are so correct. It’s as clear as day and I just don’t understand how others don’t see it. The left are spewing garbage on a daily basis and what to the right do – NOTHING. It’s so frustrating – why aren’t the Liberals fighting back?

  35. Behind Enemy Lines

    Yes

    Muddy
    #2958951, posted on March 15, 2019 at 11:39 am
    As I’ve suggested previously, one of the first steps is to neutralize the enablers, like the ABC and Fauxfax

    Yes again:

    Habib
    #2958958, posted on March 15, 2019 at 11:47 am
    . . . cut off [the left’s] funding.

  36. Myrddin Seren

    After the coalition get slaughtered at the next election, the only issue will be whether the remnants learn from the lesson and get back to conservative principles or move further to the left leaving room for others to rise on the right. My bet is on the latter if recent history is anything to go by.

    The shell-shocked remnants will take the obvious lesson from the election and decide they weren’t Left enough.

    Then they will do a David Cameron and re-brand themselves as the Eco-Liberals, the greenest Liberal Party evah.

    Looking to win government in the space between the real Greens and Labor’s Left wing.

    Shorten will rule – until the day Sally McManus decides his time is up and he needs to go ‘spend more time with the family’. And then we will REALLY know the joys of the Antipodean Bolivaran revolution.

    Comrades.

  37. Muddy

    So I return to my favourite question. What strategy? What plan?

    Before that, comes the need for something similar to this, which is essentially what our enemies have.

    The challenges will be myriad, not the least of which will concern resources (or the lack of).

  38. Diogenes

    Muddy
    #2958929, posted on March 15, 2019 at 11:18 am
    We are being exterminated by superior tactics.
    I partly disagree. The so-called ‘Right’ (I’m still seeking a more effective label) lacks strategy, or even the acknowledgement that strategy is needed. Our opponents’ tactics (the means of acting upon the strategy) are not superior, it is simply that they are willing and able, as others have noted above, to employ those tactics in the face of a negligible defense.

    Maybe, But I believe it is because of psychological difference. The left, being mostly ‘feelers*’ are ready to react before any facts are known, whereas the ‘right’ are thinkers, and want to wait for the full facts to come out & hence the “lie is around the world before the truth has drawn on its trousers”.

    *in the Jungian sense.

  39. Dr Fred Lenin

    All the shit we are copping comes from having career politicians ,they will do anything to keep their noses in the trough of taxpayers money. At the next election put Every sitting member last on the ballot paper , and shake the elite to the soles of their bno matter what party . This would clear the decks for reformm and cause the party gangs endless trouble it woukd also shake the elites to the soles of their jackboots . Line up a few ex pollies crooks and Pell them throygh the courts ,Gid kniws crooked ;]pollies would not be hard to find start with giliard and the ktudsters missus pleny of evidence there mand a tpuch of Pelli g and ofc to the nick with their ac omplices . Put the fear of God into the bastards they richly deserve it .

  40. Snoopy

    Australia explained:

    The primary backer of the planned student walkout called School Strike 4 Climate Action is the Australian Youth Climate Coalition, a non-profit company registered as a charity with an all-adult board and 68 adult staff.

    We deserve everything we get.

  41. Speedbox

    Muddy

    Our opponents’ tactics (the means of acting upon the strategy) are not superior, it is simply that they are willing and able, as others have noted above, to employ those tactics in the face of a negligible defense.

    Yeah, fair point.

    I am presently convinced that the Right will (generally) meekly stand by as our national heritage is re-written and the nation’s future wellbeing and economic stability are manipulated and considered playthings in the hands of the Left. On the Cat we will attempt our best imitation of King Canute with letters/emails and various calls to the MPs etc but ultimately, the Right will be entirely responsible for its own demise because it lacked the stomach and organisation to fight back.

    On examination, who do we have in our corner? Leyonhjelm – good but effectively a one man band; Bernardi – usually MIA; Clive Palmer – Lord help us but at least he is putting his money where his money is; Pauline Hanson – now recruited Latham and often in the news. There are precious few more.

    At the last federal election, better than three million people voted Liberal as their first preference yet what principles of conservative government have been retained? For Christ’s sake, even Abbott turned back towards the Paris Accords a few days ago.

    I think the Liberal Party is a mere silhouette of its former self in part because it mirrors most of its constituents in not displaying any will to engage the Left (or the outright lunatics) in the manner they engage us.

    Further, they have drunk the cool aid and believe that shifting philosophically to the Left will give them greater ‘relevance’ to the broader community and thereby guarantee more votes – and their traditional base will shift with them. Well, that approach is so f*cking stupid I don’t know where to begin but I sincerely hope that the Liberal primary vote collapses at the next election.

    (Rant over – my apologies – I am frustrated by all this).

  42. Perfidious Albino

    Liberty quote from BEL…

    “But the Libs . . . the Libs . . . sweet Jesus what a sackful of selfish, incompetent, mediocre traitors to the cause of sensible government”

  43. Muddy

    Speedbox.
    Our best hope politically is with an individual or party which has not yet arisen. For that creation to take place, there needs to be a space for it to inhabit. At the moment, the Lieborals, with their history (older generations are nostalgic) and resources, theoretically occupy that enigmatic ‘right of centre’ space. A new entity that tries to share that space will have to battle the established tenants, in addition to the extreme left, and enduring natural, growing pains.

    The best option for ensuring a ‘safe space’ (I shuddered when typing that, but I cannot think of an alternative phrase at the moment) for any potential newcomer, is to have the space substantially vacant. The Lieborals need to be annihilated at the ballot box, as unlikely as that is.

    This old house cannot be renovated. It will be less expensive, and easier, to simply burn it to the ground, scoop the ashes into an industrial skip, and lay a new foundation.

    Ambitious? Yes. Achievable? Hmmm, I’m not confident.
    Necessary? YES.

  44. Makka

    But the Libs . . . the Libs . . . sweet Jesus what a sackful of selfish, incompetent, mediocre traitors to the cause of sensible government. They pretend to be Libs, and then advance the ALP / Greens agenda. Talk about “broader forces at work”!

    You’ve just described the UNiparty. Nothing at all can change with the Libs until and unless they divorce themselves from the UN/globalist agenda. Immigration, energy and taxes; all headed lower is what they need to focus on and drop this trendy bullshit on vilifying coal.

    It won’t happen. A split in the LP seems most likely and would be the best outcome albeit with a lot of pain for those on the right.

  45. Behind Enemy Lines

    Muddy
    #2959008, posted on March 15, 2019 at 12:27 pm
    So I return to my favourite question. What strategy? What plan?

    Before that, comes the need for something similar to this, which is essentially what our enemies have.

    The challenges will be myriad, not the least of which will concern resources (or the lack of).

    Nicely written, Muddy. I begin to get a sense of alliances forming. . . .

    Perfidious Albino
    #2959142, posted on March 15, 2019 at 2:01 pm
    Liberty quote from BEL…

    “But the Libs . . . the Libs . . . sweet Jesus what a sackful of selfish, incompetent, mediocre traitors to the cause of sensible government”

    Thanks – we may as well try to have some fun, while we’re at it.

  46. Dr Fred Lenin

    Who are these liberals you speak of ? Havent heard of them for years there used to be a liberal party led by a little lawyer bloke called Howard ,wore glasses and was frightened of guns . As far as I know the biggest gang is the UNiparty , a wholly owned subsidiary of the communist globalists and soros and co .
    Just put the sitting member last on your ballot paper ,cause havoc amongst the career bludgers and their hangers on imagine how pissed off they will be .

  47. Muddy

    Behind Enemy Lines
    #2959272, posted on March 15, 2019 at 3:34 pm

    What is required is something radically different. Not illegal, don’t misinterpret that. Rather, looking at the issue/s through a different lens. I’ve vaguely alluded to some of this in the past, however I’m also very private, and a stickler for what one might label ‘internal security.’ More movement is possible in the shadows and dusty corners, than is possible in the glare of day.

  48. Behind Enemy Lines

    Muddy
    #2959404, posted on March 15, 2019 at 4:59 pm
    Behind Enemy Lines
    #2959272, posted on March 15, 2019 at 3:34 pm

    What is required is something radically different. Not illegal, don’t misinterpret that. Rather, looking at the issue/s through a different lens. I’ve vaguely alluded to some of this in the past, however I’m also very private, and a stickler for what one might label ‘internal security.’ More movement is possible in the shadows and dusty corners, than is possible in the glare of day.

    You’re right. That is, we need a different approach, radically different, but done securely. A form of leaderless resistance, I’m thinking.

  49. Herodotus

    The primary backer of the planned student walkout called School Strike 4 Climate Action is the Australian Youth Climate Coalition, a non-profit company registered as a charity

    Who runs this charity register? Isn’t it way past time these things were correctly administered so that only bona fide charities, not political activists, can register?

    Compared to this lot the old (going back a ways here) Liberal party was a charity

  50. Leo G

    Who are these liberals you speak of ?

    They must be those “remaining optimists” who:
    – prefer policies with bad outcomes;
    – believe the world naturlly tends to go to the worst unless mitigated by bad policies;
    – believe being good is no compensation for being responsible for bad policies.
    Hollowed out “optimists” who pretend to represent the interest of their electors.
    Trystful stinkers.

  51. Tailgunner

    we need a different approach, radically different, but done securely. A form of leaderless resistance

    Now we’re getting somewhere.

  52. Muddy

    B.E.L.
    Not leaderless as in uncoordinated & random, but certainly I see no political leadership on the horizon. We have spent generations believing we need to be lead, or hoping for a saviour. We could wait until rigor mortis sets in. Trump is an aberration. It is up to us to either save ourselves, or urinate on the graves of our ancestors.

    I hesitate also to use the word ‘cell’ due to the possible misinterpretation, however a decentralised network, if that makes sense.

  53. Behind Enemy Lines

    Muddy
    #2959802, posted on March 15, 2019 at 10:43 pm
    B.E.L.
    Not leaderless as in uncoordinated & random, but certainly I see no political leadership on the horizon. . . . I hesitate also to use the word ‘cell’ due to the possible misinterpretation, however a decentralised network, if that makes sense.

    How interesting. I hesitated to use that word, too, and for the same reasons.

    The funny thing is, there is (are) already decentralised networks in place. In a way, this is one of them, or the start of one.

    Watch this space.

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