Open Forum: March 16, 2019

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  1. zyconoclast

    A report from the Paris Police Prefecture has revealed that sexual assaults increased by 30 percent in 2018 on the city’s public transport system, with over 1,000 cases reported.

    Last year, a plainclothes police officer who works on the Paris metro system admitted that the majority of the arrests for sex attacks he had made were of migrant men from North African backgrounds.

  2. mh

    Zycon, it’s not that type of blog.

  3. zyconoclast

    The French National Assembly has approved the creation of a new Franco-German assembly that would see the two countries represented in a single parliament.
    The future two-country assembly would be comprised of 50 French and 50 German deputies who will meet twice a year to discuss issues of cooperation, with the first meeting expected to occur on March 25th, Franceinfo reports.

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And a very good evening to all on the Cat.

    Confusion and damnation to all Lefties, Socialists and fvcking Greenies.

  5. Infidel Tiger

    Tulsi Gabbard
    @TulsiGabbard
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    18h
    We must be willing to fight for the right of all Americans to express their views, even when we disagree with them. We must encourage unfettered discussion of public issues and stand united to stop Facebook and others from attempting to censor/stifle/influence public debate.

    I love this sexy little minx.

  6. mh

    İyad el-Baghdadi | إياد البغدادي
    @iyad_elbaghdadi
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    3h
    Whoever Fraser Anning is, fuck that piece of shit. The nerve of a white man in freaking Australia to complain about the threat of foreigners.

  7. Percy Popinjay

    On behalf of the Ozzie Gliberal Pardee,

    duuuuuuhhhhhhhh….

  8. C.L.

    Italian girl murdered by Nigerian migrants likely dismembered alive, court hears

    Greg Sheridan phoned.
    “We are all Nigerians now.”

  9. mh

    #illridewithnigerianmigrants

  10. zyconoclast

    Greg Sheridan phoned.
    “We are all Nigerians now.”

    😎

  11. JC

    Jeez

    The killing also led to allegations of ritualistic cannibalism that is known to be practiced by Nigerian crime gangs that are operating across Italy and Europe, including in Ireland.

  12. Rossini

    Finally made it to the party!

  13. Armadillo

    The killing also led to allegations of ritualistic cannibalism that is known to be practiced by Nigerian crime gangs that are operating across Italy and Europe, including in Ireland.

    People eaters in Europe. JC, I’m not too sure I’d trust that site.

    I’m not suggesting crime gangs aren’t eating people, I’m just saying that they aren’t eating as many people as we think they are. Maybe ten or so a year. Certainly no more than a hundred.

  14. Armadillo

    How many fat Nigerians do you see wandering about? Not many.

    I rest my case.

  15. Armadillo

    If Cats encounter a fat Nigerian, they need to be both ALERT AND ALARMED.

    Especially if they start licking their lips.

  16. jupes

    How long before Scott Morrison attends a mosque?

    I give it 24 hours.

  17. C.L.

    Of course the deadshit shooter was a personal trainer.
    I’ve never encountered one who wasn’t a narcissistic numbskull.

  18. Armadillo

    He didn’t eat anyone (that we know of), CL.

    Give him a break.

  19. jupes

    My respect for Fraser Anning has grown immensely today. He stuck his neck out but he is correct.

    Muslims come to western countries and don’t integrate, become welfare bludgers, criminals and commit terrorist acts. Despite the concerns of citizens, politicians keep bringing them in, while denying that Islam is even a problem.

    Sooner or later someone was going to have a crack back at the Muslims. Well guess what now it’s happened.

  20. mh

    Millions around the world are now listening to NZ accents.

    No one knows what effect this will have. We are in uncharted waters.

  21. jupes

    At three points in his manifesto, the shooter also states his intention to spark a civil war in the United States by triggering crackdowns on the Second Amendment. In his laundry list of motivations, the shooter spends the most amount of time discussing this goal, which he believes will ultimately lead to a “fracturing” of the U.S. along “cultural and racial lines.”

    As he describes it, his attack will “Create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social, cultural, political, and racial divide within the United States.”

    “This conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will eventually result in a civil war that will Balkanize the U.S. along political, cultural, and most importantly racial lines.”

    On this point the shooter has a lot in common with another left wing nutter, Charles Manson.

  22. Ubique

    The terrorist has been described by PM Morrison as “right-wing”. Does Morrison know something we don’t?
    Is the shooter in favour of low taxes, balanced budgets, small government, light-handed regulation, free markets, individual responsibility, property rights and freedom of speech? How did Morrison discern this?

  23. C.L.

    Actually, maybe is isn’t a numbskull.
    Reports say he made his money trading Bitcoin and spent at least eight years travelling.
    Aged 28, it’s possible he could be in jail for the next 70 years.

  24. ArthurB

    I believe that Waleed Aly remarked that terrorist attacks in Europe were just “an irritant”. I wonder if he thinks the UnZud shootings were just an irritant, and whether he would have the courage to say so on The Project?

  25. Zatara

    Was there a wager on this?

    FORTY-NINE worshipers are slaughtered and dozens injured at two New Zealand mosques after Trump-supporting white supremacist opens fire and live-streams the massacre….

    From the manifesto:

    Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?

    As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.

  26. None

    Jours, Bucky Beaver in New Zealand mentioned that the Muslims were migrants in her first “they are us” speech but who cares? She let them into their country and I haven’t heard of any problems with Muslims in New Zealand and in any case there is no excuse, none, 0, for shooting up innocent people much less in a house of worship. The guy is evil and I’m just sorry they didn’t shoot him dead. The fact that they so quickly raided a house in Dunedin also suggest to me that maybe he and his cell were known to authorities.

  27. None

    Arthur, Waleed made that remark after the Boston bombing I think and referred to terrorism as a perpetual irritant and yes Waleed can f****** well shut up and accept that it’s going to be a perpetual irritant for Muslims too.

  28. None

    Zatara yes someone wagered Trump would be blamed within 24 hours but it looks like they didn’t last 12.

  29. jupes

    The terrorist has been described by PM Morrison as “right-wing”. Does Morrison know something we don’t?
    Is the shooter in favour of low taxes, balanced budgets, small government, light-handed regulation, free markets, individual responsibility, property rights and freedom of speech? How did Morrison discern this?

    A press conference I’d like to see.

    Morrison: The terrorist is right wing.
    Journalist: The shooter describes himself as an “eco-fascist” and has stated that “conservatism is dead, thank god.” Yet you describe him as “right wing”.Why do say that?
    Morrison: He is a racist.
    Journalist: Can’t left wingers be racist?
    Morrison: … Errrrrrrr …
    Journalist: The Liberal Party is considered more “right wing” than the Labor Party. Does that mean it is more racist?
    Morrison … Ummmmm …
    Journalist: Have you ever heard of the Peter Principle?
    Morrison: Oh is that the time? I have to go visit a mosque.

  30. Armadillo

    The terrorist has been described by PM Morrison as “right-wing”. Does Morrison know something we don’t?

    Excellent point. Conservative politicians should be describing the shooter as a left wing nutter.

    The left has changed the narrative to describe the NAZIS as being “right wing”. Nothing could be further from the truth. They were full on left wing Socialists. Racist, homophobic arsehats.

    It can’t be that hard to explain. It’s spelt out in black and white. It’s in their name.

    The German language is easier to interpret than the New Zealand one.

  31. jupes

    Was there a wager on this?

    No but it was the easiest prediction I ever made.

  32. Mark A

    Armadillo
    #2959964, posted on March 16, 2019 at 1:46 am

    The German language is easier to interpret than the New Zealand one.

    When spoken, no doubt. Incomprehensible gibberish, people just nod in a condescending manner to make them feel better. (or betterrer according to Arky)

  33. Armadillo

    people just nod in a condescending manner to make them feel better

    At least with the Scots and the Irish you can pick up enough words to have a conversation.

  34. stackja

    Meanwhile Turkey has given NP another ‘2.5 years’. Will JB demand Oz protest?

  35. None

    Here we go, shooting victims still fighting for their lives including a 4 year old boy and the Age has already started the gun meme: one in every three people have a gun in New Zealand. So bloody what. No one else in New Zealand has gone on a killing spree.

  36. stackja

    Did NZ get more TV coverage than kiddy ‘AGW’ protesters?

  37. stackja

    Does NZ cancel all sports on Saturday?

  38. stackja

    jupes – FA upsets the usual suspects.

  39. Tom

    Mr Rabbit has a luxury apartment inside David Rowe’s head.

  40. Tom

    I’m loving Dave Brown’s desperate depictions of Theresa May (Independent, London).

  41. One ScoMo doesn’t make a Spring

    Thank you Tom.

  42. Shy Ted

    I haven’t heard of any problems with Muslims in New Zealand.

    New invention called the internet None. Even on the search engines likely to censor the news there’s hours of reading for you.

  43. calli

    From the OOT, and set amongst all the horror and reaction, this from IT:

    Chamberlain was a great man who has been unfairly maligned by ignoranuses.

    It has to be of interest to Muddy for the Catictionary. IT, get in here and give it a definition.

  44. J.H.

    Well… an Australian “Fallen Greenie” has massacred a Mosque full of people….. an utterly awful video to watch. Callous, evil man. That’s the trouble with these leftists. Their hearts are so full of hatred and despair. They live lives in constant crisis, for every reason under the Sun…

    Christians don’t have the problems this guy’s manifesto was full of. If he wanted meaning, he should have turned to Jesus. Christians have large families, they have their culture and traditions, their futures are full of hope, meaning and worth…. The socialists have none of this. Their hearts are full of hatreds and fears and obsessions. They kill their own unborn, they fill their lives with crisis and despair. The world is always ending for them. It would have to send them mad….Sent this idiot off the rails.

    There will probably be repercussions for Australians in Muslim countries now for what this guy has done.

    What an evil deed. What a failed human being.

  45. Mak Siccar

    For Steve Kates if he is watching.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/03/the_god_that_failed_over_and_over_again.html

    An extract follows.

    Writing in the mid-1930s, Louis Fischer said, “Nineteen years after the fiery birth of the Bolshevik regime, ubiquitous fear, amply justified by terror, had killed revolt, silenced protest, and destroyed civil courage.” He might have been writing about Venezuela or Cuba or China. It’s always the same with socialism and its ready tanks and troops.

    Fischer reflects the anger and revulsion of his once-communist colleagues writing, “I see that I turned to Soviet Russia because I thought it had the solution to the problem of power… I now realize that Bolshevism is not the way out because it is itself the world’s biggest agglomeration of power over man.” The Nobel Laureate F. A. Hayek put it succinctly, “Planning leads to dictatorship.”

    And the planners are always planning, trusting we will not notice what they are doing. It is therefore our solemn duty to call out socialism for what it is — a pseudo-religion posing as a pseudo-science enforced by political tyranny — a god that has failed each and every time it has been tried.

  46. calli

    I believe that Waleed Aly remarked that terrorist attacks in Europe were just “an irritant”. I wonder if he thinks the UnZud shootings were just an irritant, and whether he would have the courage to say so on The Project?

    As Percy reminded us with the exact quote, Ali described them as “a perpetual irritant. The man is no fool. That was meant, though it slipped unheeded by most including some on this blog.

    We have always been at war with Eastasia.

    Struth made this observation on the OOT.

    Those with western hating agendas, those who put virtue signalling as more important than others lives and their country, the foul stench of humanity which loathes the west and sits in Parliament, caused all of this, and yet there they are screaming at those who had no say in it, and didn’t want to import a culture that has openly declared war on us.

    The whirlwind has been sown. The innocent, in churches, and schools, and synogogues and mosques, will be the ones who reap it.

  47. Tintarella di Luna

    As any real student of history knows, Chamberlain was buying time to ramp up the war effort. Without him, Britain was toast.

    Chamberlain was a great man who has been unfairly maligned by ignoranuses.

    Spot on Infidel Tiger – It was Chamberlain who insisted the development of the Spitfire continue totally ignoring the advice of the nongs in the British Air Minister

  48. Zyconoclast

    How long before Scott Morrison attends a mosque?

    He is already emasculated, how long before he gets a circumcision?

  49. rickw

    Christians don’t have the problems this guy’s manifesto was full of. If he wanted meaning, he should have turned to Jesus. Christians have large families, they have their culture and traditions, their futures are full of hope, meaning and worth…. The socialists have none of this. Their hearts are full of hatreds and fears and obsessions. They kill their own unborn, they fill their lives with crisis and despair. The world is always ending for them. It would have to send them mad….Sent this idiot off the rails.

    Well said.

  50. Elle

    My incredible sadness about what has happened in Christchurch is turning.

    So they’ve stepped up security around mosques everywhere, including overseas in the UK.

    We’ve had armed guards at our Jewish schools and synagogues here in the eastern suburbs of Sydney for a long time now.

    Welcome to our world Muslim people. It ain’t nice.

  51. Elle

    My incredible sadness about what has happened in Christchurch is turning.

    So they’ve stepped up security around mosques everywhere, including overseas in the UK.

    We’ve had armed guards at our J*wish schools and synagogues here in the eastern suburbs of Sydney for a long time now.

    Welcome to our world Muslim people. It ain’t nice

  52. Tintarella di Luna

    The Nobel Laureate F. A. Hayek put it succinctly, “Planning leads to dictatorship.”

    And the planners are always planning, trusting we will not notice what they are doing. It is therefore our solemn duty to call out socialism for what it is — a pseudo-religion posing as a pseudo-science enforced by political tyranny — a god that has failed each and every time it has been tried.

    or as Terence Mckenna put it so aptly and elegantly – ‘Ideology always paves the way toward atrocity.’

    Listen to Jordan Peterson with that cloth-eared bint Cathy Newman from 24:06 to 25:51 – where he says the totalitarian ideology espoused by Mao is exactly the same as the ideology that underpins identity politics – she eventually changes the subject because she’s on a hiding to nothing.

  53. rickw

    Spot on Infidel Tiger – It was Chamberlain who insisted the development of the Spitfire continue totally ignoring the advice of the nongs in the British Air Minister.

    Lady Houston had a bit to do with Spitfire development. I don’t think there were any visionaries in parliament. They were all in Supermarine and Hawker and industry. Building aircraft that the air ministry was yet to place orders for.

  54. duncanm

    Can someone explain to me why the manifesto of nutters are forgetteried so fast these days?

    Manson’s is around, as is the UnaBomber’s.

    .. are we seen as too feeble-minded to filter out the bullshit?

    To fight evil, you need to understand it.

  55. rickw

    Welcome to our world Muslim people. It ain’t nice

    Um, they built that world for you. You don’t have Temple security because of Bhuddists and Presbyterians.

  56. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Re-posting this I wrote late last nite on the Auld Fred as a topic of interest that may take our minds away for a moment from New Zealand’s strife and distress, and the predictable reactive falsehoods of the left to such an event.

    BREXIT, or NO EXIT?

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha thank God for Churchill. He understood the menace that Hitler posed. You are correct in that Britain had an anti war feeling after the Great War. But when push came to shove, he had no alternative. To acquiesce the enemy is to dance with the devil.

    Not much on the Cat about the ‘make them redo their paperwork till they give in’ approach of the EU to the Brexit negotiations. The fix is in; the EU wants Britain back and further referendums/extensions till they get it right and decide to stay, in the meantime paying up bigtime still to the EU post-EU elections. The people have voted NOT to have any more EU elections, but most of the tremulous wimps in the mother of Parliaments haven’t got the guts to do a Churchill and fight the enemy. They’d prefer to sup with the devil. Whatever happened to the British bulldog spirit? They are currently puppets on an EU string, taking orders meekly from Brussels.

    The UK should bite the bullet and leave now, in ten days. No deal. Proudly, knowing that once they are off the EU hook the EU will come begging to negotiate as they badly need the UK’s business. Britain may have up to six months of disruption, as they enter into new trade deals internationally as well, but that is a price worth paying for getting your country and your sovereignty back. Theresa May has been a hopeless negotiator; Trump acknowledges that. The Ireland border and passage issues have been total furphies, non-problems which she has allowed to continue to be used as a ridiculous hindrance to negotiations.
    Leave. Leave now, UK, and don’t look back. You can’t be less prepared than you were in 1939, you’re streets ahead compared to then. Find your mojo, and do it.
    —-

    I am now off to a dance class to dance away my cares and those of the world in music and movement.

  57. 2dogs

    Bob Gorrell #1 wins today.

  58. Tintarella di Luna

    We’ve had armed guards at our J*wish schools and synagogues here in the eastern suburbs of Sydney for a long time now.

    Paid for, not by the government, but by the communities of those schools and those synagogues. That is the case in point – when young students from Jewish schools were attacked on buses in the Eastern Suburbs did the government show any concern whatsoever to protect those students at those Jewish schools?

    Not a bit of it, nevertheless the school communities knew what had to be done and did it — now the government knows what has to be done and does it only to highlight the government’s fear of the repercussions which are brewing.

    The media, the academics and the political class have ridiculed, mocked and shown utter contempt for the concerns of citizens who are aghast at the lack of integration and the complete traduction of our country’s, laws, mores and values.

    Thomas Jefferson was right: When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”

    That is why the people of the US will never forgo their arms because they know their guns are not for self-defence but because they fear the rise of an usurpatious government which will be a tyranny — and let’s remember that it is the Left which wants to disarm the population. It is ideology of the Left which paves the way to tyranny.

  59. Elle

    Paul Zanetti for me today. Chortle.

  60. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Is the shooter in favour of low taxes, balanced budgets, small government, light-handed regulation, free markets, individual responsibility, property rights and freedom of speech? How did Morrison discern this?

    Well said. The shooter is a loon, an original green socialists who started to get angry about the inevitable results of open borders and globalist economic deindustrialization. He then dipped into just about anything else he could read about or pick up on in a bowdlerized manner, and lumped it all together in a typical loony’s ‘manifesto’. More left wing than right wing if wings there must be; in reality just another wingless headless godless rampaging chook.

  61. Elle

    More left wing than right wing if wings there must be; in reality just another wingless headless godless rampaging chook.

    Gobsmacked that Morrison introduced a wing.
    Which wing are the Muslim terrorists?

  62. The Left is of course taking advantage of this crime. The SMH has an article titled “Broken white men and the racist media that fuels their terrorism.” It includes this whopper, “100 percent of all terrorist attacks carried out on US soil in 2018 were carried out by Right wing extremists”, then immediately quotes the activists of the Southern Poverty Law School, which is about as reliable for stating objective reality as the Ponds Institute. I’m pretty sure there were “Allahu Akbar” attacks in the US last year and extreme or even ordinary Islam could be defined as far-Right extremism. The Left start with bigoted presuppositions then work backwards to create fake facts to fit.

  63. Mater

    Can someone explain to me why the manifesto of nutters are forgetteried so fast these days?

    Partially so you can’t easily check the claims against the facts, but ultimately it’s a form of virtue signalling.
    Much like purging Michael Jackson’s music long after his death, feels good and righteous, but isn’t going to change a damned thing.

  64. calli

    There is a special kind of Stupid reserved for a select few ultra-numbskulls looking for a word or two.

    Morrison went there.

  65. Tintarella di Luna

    Gobsmacked that Morrison introduced a wing.

    That Scott Morrison spoke in that way really does show his complete and utter ineptitude and lack of propriety. Bill Shorten spoke measuredly and did not engage in the blame game.

  66. Nob

    extreme or even ordinary Islam could be defined as far-Right extremism

    It is (by the media when pushed), allowing leftists to feel good.

  67. calli

    On the May cartoons.

    I was in the market for a nice pair of leopard print loafers.

  68. hzhousewife

    Leave. Leave now, UK, and don’t look back. You can’t be less prepared than you were in 1939, you’re streets ahead compared to then. Find your mojo, and do it.

    I emailed as much to my UK friends a few days ago, and they replied in agreement.

  69. Elle

    I was in the market for a nice pair of leopard print loafers.

    Aldi 😉

  70. Nob

    As does the film “Darkest Hour” in showing what Churchill was up against domestically when his hour came. (With some bullshit socialr revisionism)

  71. Nob

    Previous post that didn’t go:

    On Chamberlain, Robert Harris’s recent novel Munich goes some way to revising pop history.

  72. rickw

    Morrison went there.

    Is ScoMo actually that dumb, or is there some delusional plan behind this?

    It’s a stand out piece of idiocy on the topic. He’s left Justin Trudeau scrambling to find something dumber to say.

  73. jo

    None, have you heard oaf Aramoana and david gray. 13 dead.

  74. Mater

    Is the shooter in favour of low taxes, balanced budgets, small government, light-handed regulation, free markets, individual responsibility, property rights and freedom of speech? How did Morrison discern this?

    Don’t let them get away with this. The shooter aligned himself most closely with Oswald Mosley, a former Labour politician, a Fabian and the founder of the British Union of Facists.
    Yes, I take his manifesto with a grain of salt but where are they getting the right-wing stuff from? Is it simply violence + racism = right-wing?

  75. Elle

    Wonder why the terrorist in Christchurch didn’t blow himself up or shoot himself. Now tax payers have to spend money keeping the vile piece of sh*t alive.

  76. Antipostmodernism

    Link to dreadful SMH article on massacre.

  77. Eyrie

    ” It was Chamberlain who insisted the development of the Spitfire continue totally ignoring the advice of the nongs in the British Air Minister”
    A traitorous act indeed. The Bf 109 took around 4000 man hours to make each. The Spitfire around 11,000 IIRC.
    That alone could have been the end of the Brits. As they were comparable in performance the better warplane is the one that takes fewer resources to build.
    Would be interesting to speculate how the Battle of Britain would have gone with Curtis Lemay in charge of the Luftwaffe.

  78. Antipostmodernism

    Bugger, I’m failing links 101

  79. Elle

    Is ScoMo actually that dumb, or is there some delusional plan behind this?

    He’s set to lose the election. Perhaps the delusion is to gain the support of leftists. He’s no different to Turnbull.

  80. calli

    Anti, just copy and paste the URL and we’ll get there eventually.

  81. Notafan

    Which lead to tightening of gun laws.

  82. rickw

    Nice video on AK-47 magazine production, note the complete lack of machine guarding and ergonomics!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rJxtdAAo_bQ

  83. calli

    Give me Abbott ummm-ing and ahhh-ing any day.

    At least he was thinking about what he was saying.

    This glib halfwit just smeared what’s left of his base.

  84. Black Ball

    Is ScoMo actually that dumb, or is there some delusional plan behind this?

    Good morning.
    The comment ScoMo uttered to this observer has ushered in a Shorten Government. So eager was he to label the killer as right wing, Morrison has pissed off the true base that wish for smaller government etc that has been discussed upthread. I haven’t heard Shorten’s response but reading through posts last night and this morning, there was no label that Shorten used to condemn the killer.
    Could an overseas incident be Tits’ Tampa moment?

  85. calli

    Seven talking heads telling me “Don’t look! Don’t look!”, then immediately showing the livestreamed footage.

    Aaaaand…they have a reporter “on the ground” in Grafton. Perhaps he wants to interview the road on which the creature walked in his yoof.

    We live in the stupidest country on earth.

  86. rickw

    A traitorous act indeed. The Bf 109 took around 4000 man hours to make each. The Spitfire around 11,000 IIRC.

    What were the man hours to build the Hawker Hurricane? I’m thinking about the meccano set construction where each joint has about 30 seperate components!

  87. Crossie

    The whirlwind has been sown. The innocent, in churches, and schools, and synogogues and mosques, will be the ones who reap it.

    Calli, I note that these sort of attacks are not attempted against a TV studio, like those of the ABC or Ten or Nine, just think of the publicity if that’s what the attackers were after. The reason they don’t is most likely because these places are fortresses and also because the people in them are ‘friendlies’.

  88. Nob

    where are they getting the right-wing stuff from? Is it simply violence + racism = right-wing?

    Yes, that’s what young people think even when they favour “right wing” economic principles.

    We need to wake up. Push policy , not labels.

  89. Elle

    A stat I read this morning – every third person in NZ
    owns a gun. My father has rifles. He taught myself and my brothers how to shoot. I only joined them once on their hunting expeditions. Not my thing, I quickly discovered.

  90. None

    So people still fighting for their lives and Bucky Beaver has pledged to change New Zealand gun laws.

  91. Nob

    Hawker Hurricane? I’m thinking about the meccano set construction

    I’m thinking Airfix and took as long.

    Bloody transfers.

  92. calli

    Nightie tearing about “the dangers of the Internet” on Seven. Monique has learned a new word, “algorithm”, pointing to the livestreaming of the attack and the manifesto.

    Amnesia reigns. I seem to recall ISIS using da Interwebs to show acts of unbelievable evil.

    No talk about censoring the net then.

  93. Leo G

    Wonder why the terrorist in Christchurch didn’t blow himself up or shoot himself.

    An extreme nihilist who wants to witness the sequela of his sick act.

  94. Suburban Boy

    We are all Greg Sheridan today.

  95. hzhousewife

    Brief glance at Tele page 4 the mother describes an odd child – I’m immediately reminded of the movie
    “We Need To Talk About Kevin” (based on book by Lionel Shriver)

  96. Suburban Boy #2960072, posted on March 16, 2019 at 8:34 am

    The AU is now worse than the SMH/Age.
    Do they have editors?

  97. Neil

    https://www.wnd.com/2019/03/mosque-killer-im-a-socialist-depending-on-the-definition/

    The primary suspect in the massacre Friday of 49 people at two mosques in New Zealand named a prominent British fascist leader who was allied with Italy’s Benito Mussolini in the 1930s as the historical political figure with whom he most identified.

    The suspect, 28-year-old Australian Brenton Tarrant, published a 74-page manifesto before killing 49 people and injuring another 20 at the Christchurch mosques.
    Tarrant wrote that Sir Oswald Mosley “is the person from history closest to my own beliefs.”
    Describing himself as a “racist,” Tarrant state’s he’s not a conservative and could be labeled a socialist, “depending on the definition.”

  98. No talk about censoring the net then.

    Bullshit.
    Trump was talking about it in December 2015 before he was POTUS.

  99. calli

    You’re not very good at comprehension are you?

  100. cuckoo

    Jaw-dropping dumbness from Morrison. Once an ad man, always an ad man. Always thinks he’s got something clever to say, even if he doesn’t know what it is until he hears it. And to the shooter: thanks for buying us at least another ten years of 1. Muslims are the victims, 2. Toxic masculinity, and 3. All the real terrorists are white men.

    Endorsing C.L.’s comments above about personal trainers.

  101. Shy Ted

    Article in the Guardian by Van Badham – I almost died of measles when I was 17
    Shy Ted says, dear measles, go back and try harder.

  102. Eyrie

    Just a lone wolf attack. Nothing to see here, move along.

  103. pete m

    Sco mo was attacking the PHON voter with his label.

    He wants those concerned by muskims to be shocked and embarrassed and leave that voting intention and go back to libs.

    The problem is though his party has mostly lost voters to labor not other conservatives.

    Gutless move to label any white terrorist a right wing extremist.

    Antifa will be upset too

  104. cuckoo

    But fear not, last night Melbourne buildings were being lit up in the colours of the UnZud flag, which are, er, red, white and blue. Take that, haters!

  105. Leigh Lowe

    Article in the Guardian by Van Badham – I almost died of measles when I was 17

    I am keen to hear Measles side of the story.

  106. cuckoo

    A Greens senator was tonight forced to make an embarrassing public apology after telling The West Australian columnist Gemma Tognini to “shut the f… up” and calling her a “right wing nut job” for her article saying students skipping school to protest for action on climate change were being used as political pawns.

    This being “Jordon” Steele-John. There are times when I think this guy is some satirist’s idea of a Green politician. Stupid misspelt first name, stupid hyphenated surname, wheelchair, stupid whiny high-pitched ‘retard’ voice, pommy accent, resorts to hysterical sobbing for almost anything.

  107. calli

    Heh. I wonder if a Seven boffin pops by the Cat?

    They now trot out Sutor who opines that ISIS will use the murders to bolster its cause. Because Internet. And we need to censor the internet and how do we control free speech.

    And white people are to blame. Naturally.

  108. Mother Lode

    I am looking forward to Ray Hadley getting on the radio and denouncing Br Tyrell’s barrister and the members of the public for daring to doubt the case against and accept the guilt of the Brother.

    Actually, that rebuke goes for the exonerating judge too.

  109. From the attached article

    No matter the size of these extremist communities, they always represent a threat to our collective well-being. Social cohesion and mutual respect need to be asserted and continually worked on.

    Social cohesion and mutual respect are conspicuous by their absence in many (not all) who post here.

  110. C.L.

    It’s odd. I haven’t seen one police official declaring the mosque shooter a mentally ill lone wolf.
    ————
    Meanwhile, at the always hysterical Daily Mail, sideboobs, celebrity women bending over at beaches and unexpected pashes on MAFS have been replaced by ‘reports’ like this one:

    ‘Hello brother’: Muslim victim who greeted terrorist gunman in New Zealand mosque shooting is hailed as a hero for ‘showing the kindness that is Islam’ with his final words.

    He has been a hailed for his incredible act of brave devotion as he showed Islamic compassion even when faced with the barrel of a semi-automatic shotgun.

    Many reacted to the video on social media, taking strength from the fact that hatred was overcome as the twisted killer sought to end the victim’s life.

    One Twitter user called Farrukh wrote: ‘How many more lives Muslims need to give to prove that their faith is not violent?’

  111. calli

    And they are still showing the livestream despite urging us not to watch it.

  112. My first thought on hearing the shooter was an Aussie was, “oh no, I hope he’s not a Cat.”

  113. C.L.

    I just saw a report about Sweden now being officially ranked No. 2 in a world rape prevalence list.
    There are so many rapes by immigrants that Swedish police cannot investigate them all.
    Mutual respect etc.

  114. Cassie of Sydney

    Here’s a small list of Islamist Terror Attacks and atrocities since September 11 2001

    2002 Bali bombings….killing 202 people and injuring 240.
    Madrid train bombings…killing 192 people and injuring 2050 people.
    Beslan school hostage crisis….killing 385 people (mainly children) and injuring 783 people.
    7 July 2005 London bombings….killing 52 people and injuring 784 people
    Sharm El Sheikh bombings in Egypt….killing 88 people and injuring 150
    Tentena market bombings in Indonesia….killing over 60 people and injuring over 180
    Mumbai train bombings….killing 209 people and injuring over 700
    Mumbia attacks in 2008….killing over 166 people and injuring hundreds of people
    Moscow Metro bombings….killing 40 and injuring over 102
    Christmas Day bombings in Nigeria…killing 41 people and injuring over 57
    J**ish school attacked in Montauban and Toulouse….killing 7 people (including 3 children) and injuring 5
    Borno Massacre in Nigeria…killing over 200
    Huangdi Township in China….killing 37 and injuring 13
    Kano bombing in Nigera….killing 120 and injuring over 260
    Grozny Russia…killing 26 people
    Peshawar school massacre in Pakistan….killing 140 school children
    Charlie Hebdo and Kosher Supermarket attacks….killing 16
    Al-Shabaab’s Garissa University College Kenya…killing (mainly Christian students) 148
    Sousse attacks in Tunisia…..killing 38 people and injuring 39
    Nigeria…Boko Haram….killing at least 200
    San Bernardino USA….killing 14 people and injuring 22
    Paris Bataclan attacks….killing 137 people and injuring 368
    Gulshan-e-Iqbal Park Pakistan attack on Christians….killing 70 and injuring 300
    Orlando, Florida….killing 49 people and injuring 53
    Nice France….killing 87 people and injuring 434
    Palm Sunday church bombings in Tanta and Alexandria Egypt….killing 36 people, injuring more than 100
    Manchester Arena bombing – killing 22 people and injuring 129
    Attack on Coptic Christians in Minya Governorate Egypt…killing 28 and injuring 22
    London Bridge attack…killing 11 people and injuring 48
    Barcelona attacks….killing 15 people and injuring 120
    Lower Manhattan attack ….killing 8 people and injuring 12

    and I could go on and on

    Excuse me if I feel a little perspective is in order about yesterday…..as I wrote last night…I want to feel more but I don’t….and as for that cretin Greg Sheridan writing “We are all Muslims now”

    I AM NOT A MUSLIM AND I NEVER WILL BE A MUSLIM

    We didn’t start the fire…they did….evil doesn’t just appear out of nothing…what happened yesterday was evil but it was an evil reaction to the evil events mentioned above.

  115. None

    Bucky Beaver talking about gun control. The fucker had IEDs. No gin control is going to stop that.

  116. Cassie of Sydney

    “m0nty
    #2960096, posted on March 16, 2019 at 9:00 am
    My first thought on hearing the shooter was an Aussie was, “oh no, I hope he’s not a Cat.”

    So you were there?

  117. Twostix

    Commonwealth countries will make website owners responsible for comments shortly.

    The freewheeling Internet is over.

    Banning facebook and twitter would be of no loss to anyone.

  118. calli

    Was it, m0nty? Your first thought? How odd.

  119. amortiser

    Cuckoo:

    I attended the rally in Brisbane and asked a 14 yo girl who was sporting a sign saying the planet had 14 years left what it actually meant. She said unless we took action the planet would be uninhabitable in 11 years.

    I then said do you believe that 7 billion people will die. At this point an adult who was with the group intervened and said that I was picking on her because she was the youngest there.

    I told this guy that she was holding a sign that she couldn’t explain and that it was people like him who were using children for political purposes. That was the whole point of the strike and they should be called out on it.

  120. C.L.

    This is the worst white extremist shooting since Democrat Party terrorist James Hodgkinson – a hero to the left and the media – opened fire on Republicans.

  121. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers – It’s a very strange right winger who admires the Peoples’ Republic of China.
    Maybe he’s the sort of right winger who is not actually a right winger.

  122. MatrixTransform

    who’s been visiting False Dichotomy Land atop The FarawayTree?

  123. woolfe

    Looks like no women were murdered in the massacre. Wonder why?

  124. None

    The guy was kitted out in camouflage de and carrying a f****** Arsenal and he said hello brother? Is that because he recognised a fellow terrorist? The poor bastard may have thought in that moment of sheer horror and shot that maybe he could talk this prick out of things. Whatever.

  125. C.L.

    IIRC, Monty’s response to the Reoublican massacre was laughter.

  126. stackja

    Eyrie
    #2960084, posted on March 16, 2019 at 8:44 am
    Just a lone wolf attack. Nothing to see here, move along.

    Reminds of Man Monis in Sydney and Hassan Shire Ali, in Melbourne.

  127. one old bruce

    My first thought on hearing about the shooting was it’s a Sunni/Shia intra muslim thing, because such mosque attacks are quite common around the world. As Waleed says, irritants.

    Did anyone notice the bearded NZ convert who went after the attacker(s) with a shotgun? He was expecting something like this, more likely from other muslims. ‘White guy’ against another young white guy. Young men looking for a cause.

  128. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    And they are still showing the livestream despite urging us not to watch it.

    link?

  129. None

    F*** off Monty you low life. People here have cut you a lot of slack over the years and never wished you harm and even consoled you when you were Earl and the way you return such charity is with filth and slander. You belong in the gutter. Fuk off out of here. I promise you no one will come to your funeral.

  130. None, you have some anger problems. I pray you never write a manifesto.

  131. None

    old Bruce I didn’t see anyone going after the peep With A Shotgun although I saw a photo of someone who looked like an Anglo convert in 8th century garb talking on a mobile afterwards.

  132. Cassie of Sydney

    “m0nty
    #2960119, posted on March 16, 2019 at 9:15 am
    None, you have some anger problems. I pray you never write a manifesto.”

    Why cockroach? Are you worried someone is going to plagiarise something you’ve written?

  133. Twostix

    Who gave him those guns?

  134. Bruce of Newcastle

    Quit that M0nty. Actual libel against Cats is something Sinc doesn’t like. Don’t get yourself banned.

  135. stackja

    Cassie of Sydney
    #2960098, posted on March 16, 2019 at 9:02 am

    MSM convenient forgettery.

  136. Mother Lode

    Muslim victim who greeted terrorist gunman in New Zealand mosque shooting is hailed as a hero for ‘showing the kindness that is Islam’ with his final words.

    It would be heroic if one of the survivors offered friendship after the attack.

    Before that he took the shooter as being a co-religionist and not a threat.

    No heroism in being kind to someone you assume is well disposed to you.

  137. Leo G

    He has been a hailed for his incredible act of brave devotion as he showed Islamic compassion even when faced with the barrel of a semi-automatic shotgun.

    Conversely, the killer demonstrated the kind of cold-blooded detachment that is able to disregard such gestures. I expect the killer was able to deny the humanity of the people he was targeting.
    Reminiscent of the dissociative mindset of Anders Breivik.

  138. Eyrie

    “Did anyone notice the bearded NZ convert who went after the attacker(s) with a shotgun? He was expecting something like this, more likely from other muslims.”
    Someone warned him and he had time to get a weapon from the Mosque’s arms locker.

  139. MatrixTransform

    Grow some pubes, Monty.

    there are no bones to these people.
    There’s nothing to plagiarize.
    All they do is wank on the same old gibber and antagonize.

    The truth is that both mUnty and NumbNutz right now are fapping away with glee because they have an opportunity to capitalize on the misery.

    What is most visible from both here this morning is how corrupt their hearts and minds are.
    Yet strangely, both think of themselves as being pure and right and proper.

    yes, the braindead are still allowed keyboards

  140. Perfidious Albino

    10,300 man hours for a Hawker Hurricane apparently (wiki). More traditional (and familiar) construction techniques, also easier to maintain on the flight line for the same reason.

  141. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A very pertinent list there, Cassie. Is it any wonder that it raises some violent blowback? But blowback of this untenable sort only inflames the situation and if approved simply furthers a sorry type of unequal vendetta. Nevertheless, a firmer and stronger public disapproval of special pleading by Islamists is also required for the self-respect of the West under attack. Sadly, we are not there yet.

    Claiming we are all Islamics now is a clear falsehood. Sympathy with the victims of political violence doesn’t extend to approval of contentious and alien ideologies.

    I thought Elle’s point that new protections for mosques should bring home to Muslims the security measures their anti-semitic rants have placed upon Jooish buildings, especially schools.

  142. Eyrie

    All Mosques need to be searched for weapons, drugs, anything at all illegal..

  143. a happy little debunker

    It’s a very strange right winger who is also anti-capitalist/free tradist that self describes as an eco worrier that abhors Trumpian politics – who chose a day of anti-capitalist ‘climate change’ action to commit mass murder to undermine the US 2nd amendment (also as self described).

  144. Quit that M0nty. Actual libel against Cats is something Sinc doesn’t like. Don’t get yourself banned.

    I am not libelling any particular Cat, Bruce. Anyone who takes personal offence should engage their cortico-thalamic pause and realise that they are only doing so because their utterances on the Cat are indistinguishable from that of the shooter.

  145. stackja

    Cats could not use cafe name Pellegrini’s Espresso Bar, because Kidd put a ban on Pell. Sisto Malaspina murdered and now forgotten?

  146. Bruce of Newcastle

    M0nty – You libeled None.

    Stop it.

  147. bespoke

    I was un expectantly surprised that 1735099 didn’t jump in sooner and add this to the hill he stands on but has since made up for it.

  148. Mother Lode

    Was it, m0nty? Your first thought? How odd.

    Well there was this other time in 1997 when he thought he had a thought: that he should stop eating those little satchels you get with some packaging, but the attending doctor pointed out that the satchels actually say ‘Do Not Eat’ it was actually something he read.

    Now he just posts the equivalence of electronic feedback from reading left wing idiot sites, so this could indeed be his first thought.

    Mind you, it may well turn out that he was surfing the net looking for funny captioned pictures of cats.

  149. stackja

    By the way, what happened to all the Get Pell stories? Gone to NZ?

  150. Yeah well Bruce, I was just being honest. There are at least half a dozen Cats who show the early signs of turning into a Tarrant.

  151. Baldrick

    Please tell us more m0nty. What utterances in particular have you hand-wringing?

  152. Eyrie

    “10,300 man hours for a Hawker Hurricane apparently (wiki). More traditional (and familiar) construction techniques, also easier to maintain on the flight line for the same reason.”
    Thanks the 109 apparently was designed for production from the start.
    Here’s an article on Ed Schmued, designer of the P-51. His team disassembled a 109 in 1939, before the Mustang was designed. The Mustang was fairly easy to build also. 2700 man hours by 1944.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Schmued
    There’s also this: https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/man-hours-to-build-aircraft.10190/#lg=post-287316&slide=0

  153. Leo G

    Anyone who takes personal offence should engage their cortico-thalamic pause and realise that they are only doing so because their utterances on the Cat are indistinguishable from that of the shooter.

    M0nty evidently can’t take his own advice on impulse inhibition.

  154. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    My first thought on hearing about the shooting was it’s a Sunni/Shia intra muslim thing, because such mosque attacks are quite common around the world.

    That was my first thought. But citizen blowback against jihad can’t be unexpected if the government’s strategy is to criminalise its own population and appease the jihadis.

    Where is it going to end? rising moslem numbers, white flight from major cities, muslims making headway into government.

    They may as well just hand over the keys to jihadist now and start paying the jizya.

  155. candy

    Much like Breivik. Wonder what his background was. After the dreadful deaths and suffering of grieving families is the killer’s family and he has destroyed them too in a sense.

  156. None

    Withdraw your comment and apologise M0nty – your comment about me and also about other Cats – or else I’m going to ask Sinc that you get banned. Like I said people have extended a lot of grace to you over the years and you return it with slander.

  157. mh

    Monty, the shooter is on your team.

    So was Hitler. Mao. Pol Pot.

  158. Anthony

    I AM NOT A MUSLIM AND I NEVER WILL BE A MUSLIM

    Let me see if I’ve got Sheridan right:
    I am a Stalinist because Russia fought against Hitler in WWII.
    Let’s ignore the fact that, during his reign of terror, Stalin killed more Russians than Hitler did.

  159. MatrixTransform

    holy sheet … False Dichotomy Land has changed to Slippery Slope Land.

    rapidly progressing ?

  160. Please tell us more m0nty.

    Well no, that would be libellious. 🙂

  161. Withdraw your comment and apologise M0nty – your comment about me and also about other Cats – or else I’m going to ask Sinc that you get banned. Like I said people have extended a lot of grace to you over the years and you return it with slander.

    You haven’t extended any grace to me, so I don’t see why you deserve it from me.

  162. Cassie of Sydney

    ” But blowback of this untenable sort only inflames the situation and if approved simply furthers a sorry type of unequal vendetta. ”

    Agree. I don’t approve of what happened in Christchurch…God forbid…but I understand the context. These events don’t occur out of a vacuum.

    And let me tell you all…there will be a retaliation….you’re not dealing with a religion that has a philosophy of “turning the other cheek”. In fact, I read last night that there was increased security for mosques…..what about churches? Because there will be an retaliatory attack here in the west…NOT IF, WHEN.

    I am really worried about how the left will try and use this evil act to shut down legitimate debate about Islam. The push for hate speech laws and the push to legislate “Islamophobia” and so on. This gives them ammunition.

  163. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    A very pertinent list there, Cassie. Is it any wonder that it raises some violent blowback? But blowback of this untenable sort only inflames the situation and if approved simply furthers a sorry type of unequal vendetta.

    Breathing kuffar’s inflames jihadis. Violence is the only thing islam ever respects. Strongest Horse doctrine.

  164. Eyrie

    I AM NOT A MUSLIM AND I NEVER WILL BE A MUSLIM
    +2 from the Eyrie household.

    BTW the handle has nothing to do with Eagle’s Nests. It was a shortening of a name of a song “Hope Eyrie”. Get ready to stand to attention on July 20th 2019 – 50 years. You can find it on Youtube.

  165. None

    Actually Monty I have wished you well in the past and extended a welcome to you. All recorded in the cats archives for posterity. Many others have too. This is your filth:

    m0nty

    #2960145, posted on March 16, 2019 at 9:39 am

    Yeah well Bruce, I was just being honest. There are at least half a dozen Cats who show the early signs of turning into a Tarrant.

    Name names you filthy coward or else f*** off.

  166. Cassie of Sydney

    “None
    #2960151, posted on March 16, 2019 at 9:43 am
    Withdraw your comment and apologise M0nty – your comment about me and also about other Cats – or else I’m going to ask Sinc that you get banned. Like I said people have extended a lot of grace to you over the years and you return it with slander.”

    Agree None and I support you. He has gone too far.

  167. Nob

    m0nty
    #2960145, posted on March 16, 2019 at 9:39 am
    Yeah well Bruce, I was just being honest. There are at least half a dozen Cats who show the early signs of turning into a Tarrant

    Rubbish.

    For a start, none of them are even close to Tarrant’s age and none are eco fascists.

  168. Eyrie

    BTW the Mayor fawning over the headscarved third world detritus as the citizenship ceremoaney last week was disgusting. effwit.

  169. Eyrie

    As Australian politicians are cheap to buy, I wonder if much Saudi money has gone into buying some so they let in Muslims?

  170. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    You haven’t extended any grace to me, so I don’t see why you deserve it from me.

    must respect da wahmen monstie, go home and wash the dishes.

  171. None

    Cassie of Sydney

    #2960159, posted on March 16, 2019 at 9:48 am

    given how fast Jacinda was out of the blocks demanding gun control and the US press was out of the blocks blaming Trump and how idiot aryans were out blaming white male privilege and the internet you can bet your bottom dollar that they will shut down any and all debate about anything that does not fit with the lefty Manifesto. They don’t understand that the lefty Manifesto enables this. There is no difference between this evil s*** and Antifa or your local chapter of your ISIS munters. If you look at history you don’t defeat these movements by emasculating the masses; you defeated by countering their ideology and going after their leaders and when they don’t play ball you just obliterate them.

  172. min

    A high school graduate?, give me a break, followed by an 8 week training to be a personal trainer, a brain barely fully developed and a. manifesto of grab bag nonsense with no ability to think critically and what do you have ? The average Australian voter. So what he made money fron bitcoin , proves my point,no income and gambling on bitcoin. Probably thought he was invunerable ,like other Narcisissts.
    Like all those kids on the Ides of March , a product of a new styled Australian education and probably a confused Socialist.

  173. Eyrie

    “Name names you filthy coward or else f*** off.”
    Yeah, time for the banhammer beloved by Karl Denninger.
    Here’s Karl this morning : https://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=235319

  174. bespoke

    m0nty
    #2960145, posted on March 16, 2019 at 9:39 am
    Yeah well Bruce, I was just being honest. There are at least half a dozen Cats who show the early signs of turning into a Tarrant.

    Come back when you and 1735099 take some responsibility for deliberately inflaming the situation.

  175. egg_

    Withdraw your comment and apologise M0nty – your comment about me and also about other Cats – or else I’m going to ask Sinc that you get banned.

    Oh the irony!
    Where’s Dot, Sinc?

  176. For a start, none of them are even close to Tarrant’s age and none are eco fascists.

    Maybe, but there is a continuous undertone of abuse, name calling and threats of violence from some who post here.
    I ought to know….
    It generates all kinds of ratbaggery, including phoned death threats.
    I’ve had two from people who identify themselves as readers and contributors here in the last three years.
    Some of it is 474.15 stuff.

    Violence is a continuum.

  177. Percy Popinjay

    Surprise! Just heard Horseface on the news, bloviating about da guns.

  178. lotocoti

    As far as I can tell, there’s only one neckbeard ’round here likely to go off LARPing Fortnite.

  179. Overburdened

    Raining no swell so putertime.
    The Overburdened Method of dealing with fuckwits is to follow the principle of, ‘I don’t talk with fuckwits, I’m telling you’.
    With the fuckwits here, I don’t even do that.
    I can understand that the provocations of the resident dickheads seem to require a response if one feels strongly about an issue.
    To help avoid being provoked it is helpful to remember that these miserable pricks get gratification from responses. It is their only agenda.
    They are hollow.

  180. John Constantine

    Their Winston Peters can support gun grabbing or not.

    Jacindamania is his Frankenstein’s monster.

    Will shorten run on gun grabbing as well?.

    Their turnbullites will support him if he does.

    Comrades.

  181. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I’ve had two from people who identify themselves as readers and contributors here in the last three years.

    what load of rubbish!

  182. Leo G

    Withdraw your comment and apologise M0nty – your comment about me and also about other Cats – or else I’m going to ask Sinc that you get banned.

    You haven’t extended any grace to me, so I don’t see why you deserve it from me.

    Up goes the huffnpuff free speech balloon.

  183. Infidel Tiger

    Nick Short
    @PoliticalShort
    ·
    1h
    “The destinations the Christchurch mosque shooter visited, including North Korea, a 2017 trip to Portugal, Spain and France, and Pakistan last year now form part of the counter-terror investigation being conducted into his past and character.”

    False flag?

    If I was to plan a politically motivated attack to adavance leftism it would roll out much like yesterday.

    Media and politicians are now playing their parts beautifully.

  184. Johno

    “It generates all kinds of ratbaggery, including phoned death threats.
    I’ve had two from people who identify themselves as readers and contributors here in the last three years.”
    If anyone who self identified in such a way had rung ,you would have been on the phone to the police in an instant. Swiftly followed by “poor little super brave victim me” phone calls to the local lefty cell.
    Pathetic ,try harder lad.

  185. MatrixTransform

    mUnty and the idiotic dialectic.
    The retard that speaks fluent Logical Fallacy.

    This retard that spews posts designed to malign and inflame believes that somehow his own verbiage in the this space is magic rainbow coloured specialness.

    The retard argues its own dialectic and then posts more gibber into it …
    …into the void rushes the fart.

    Everybody here sees you for what are mate.
    I would normally not advocate a banning but frankly, I agree with others here that propose your removal.

    You don’t add anything except miserable discontent.
    Having relegated yourself to the corner with the dunce hat … everybody still listens to your snivelling and that snivelling detracts and derails.

    Self absorbed tool

  186. bespoke

    Threats of libelling and banning, this place is turning into a sheltered space for boomers. Worse still its making me side with monty or at very least see the hypocrisy of his accuses.

  187. calli

    link?

    Only to my eyes, Zippy.

    Unless you want to turn on the TV.

  188. Old School Conservative

    Cassie, I’m sure your fears have already been evidenced.
    Tony Burke said yesterday that the Christchurch slaughter “…was born from hate speech…”

  189. John Constantine

    The caliphate money hasn’t focused on Australian politicians. Australian politicians are bought with voteherds.

    Caliphate money goes into controlling the transnational looting cartels that draft the conventions that Australian politicians sign up unwavering craven compliance and capitulation to.

    Once the conventions are signed requiring twenty million of the worlds poorest people be mass imported into Australia from the time the two towers went down until the overthrow of western industrial civilisation, the system just runs on its own momentum without more bribes.

    Comrades.

  190. MatrixTransform

    I’ve had two from people who identify themselves as readers and contributors here in the last three years.

    echoes of Smollett … NumbNutz says, “here hold my bleach”

    …gets sent to the stupid corner but is miserable because there’s only one dunce hat.

    now there’s two snivelling

  191. mh

    Donald Trump Vetoes Attempt to Block National Emergency

    President Donald Trump vetoed a bill designed to block his emergency declaration at the Southern Border on Friday, in a ceremony at the White House.

    “Today, I am vetoing this resolution,” Trump said. “Congress has the freedom to pass this resolution and I have the duty to veto it. And I’m very proud to veto it.”

    The president defied Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Congressional Democrats, and the “dirty dozen” Senate Republicans who joined them by signing his veto in a public ceremony at the White House….

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/15/donald-trump-vetoes-attempt-to-block-national-emergency/

  192. Tel

    I seem to remember Monty has been in the business of justifying violence around here. Simply call someone a few names first, then after that violence becomes acceptable … that’s the “Progressive” way.

    Not strong on self reflection our Monty; always 100% sure of himself when he’s loaded up with the latest bullet points. Seems like a worry to me. Capable of anything. No deep moral principles to hold him back. He will pretty much hate on command if his superior “Progressive” commanders tell him who to hate and when.

    The “Progressives” have an army of similar empty heads, all so sure of themselves, following simple instructions. Never question, never wonder, just do do do. The school are indoctrinating more of them.

  193. bespoke

    Johno
    #2960185, posted on March 16, 2019 at 10:09 am
    “It generates all kinds of ratbaggery, including phoned death threats.
    I’ve had two from people who identify themselves as readers and contributors here in the last three years.”
    If anyone who self identified in such a way had rung ,you would have been on the phone to the police in an instant. Swiftly followed by “poor little super brave victim me” phone calls to the local lefty cell.
    Pathetic ,try harder lad.

    Yep

  194. Cassie of Sydney

    “I’ve had two from people who identify themselves as readers and contributors here in the last three years.”

    Absolute codswallop.

  195. Nob

    Maybe, but there is a continuous undertone of abuse, name calling and threats of violence

    Yes , yes and no.

    You want all three, try mocking greenies or leftists on a public forum.

  196. mh

    I’ve had two from people who identify themselves as readers and contributors here in the last three years.

    Numbers, I bet they were yelling “This is MAGA country!”.

  197. calli

    Why would anyone be dumb enough to identify themselves in a death threat?

    💡

    It was ScoMo, wasn’t it?

    Case closed.

  198. Cassie of Sydney

    “Old School Conservative
    #2960189, posted on March 16, 2019 at 10:15 am
    Cassie, I’m sure your fears have already been evidenced.
    Tony Burke said yesterday that the Christchurch slaughter “…was born from hate speech…””

    Yes, this is the same Tony Burqa who said, in his own hate speech a few years ago, that Isr**li J**ws were poisoning the water of the Pallies…..shades of the blood libel there.

  199. John Constantine

    Will their Australian left grab the guns first, or ban hate speech first?.

    Looks like censorship to me.

    Shorten with the tyrannical dystopic power to silence all opposition.

    Poor fella my country.

    Sixteen year old girls with the vote, a million visa dreamers with the vote, no media opposition, censored internet, der shortreich will last vun tousan years.

    Comrades.

  200. C.L.

    False flag

    It’s all rather odd.
    Apparently he loved Pakistan, couldn’t stop raving about the people and the beauty of the place.
    ——————-

    Did anyone notice the bearded NZ convert who went after the attacker(s) with a shotgun?

    Christians, put up your hand if you take a shotgun to church on Sunday.

    FOR SALE
    One shotty, only used on Sunday by elderly Christian lady …

  201. Cassie of Sydney

    “mh
    #2960197, posted on March 16, 2019 at 10:21 am
    I’ve had two from people who identify themselves as readers and contributors here in the last three years.

    Numbers, I bet they were yelling “This is MAGA country!”.”

    Had they just been to Subway?

  202. notafan

    Actually, that rebuke goes for the exonerating judge too.

    All three of them

    The decision is worth reading

    lots of relevant stuff to the Cardinal Pell matter especially going to the issue of reasonableness.

    Police facilitated a convicted killer so they could convict an an old frail partly blind innocent man, simply because he was a Christian Brother.

  203. Old School Conservative/Beertruk:
    Thanks for the links to the Islamic Terror sites.
    Yes, the one I was after was this one.

  204. calli

    Mine isn’t for sale C.L.

  205. struth

    where are they getting the right-wing stuff from? Is it simply violence + racism = right-wing?

    Yes, that’s what young people think even when they favour “right wing” economic principles.
    We need to wake up. Push policy , not labels.

    Good Moaning.
    The left wing brain comprehends what it wants to comprehend and can filter out any truth immediately.

    The shooter categorically states he believes communist china is the closest to his politics and claims to be an ecofascist ex communist blah blah, so just a raving loon lefty.
    But he was white and shot mussies.
    This makes him a Nazi, and right wing.
    It really is the case that to the simpleton mind of a lefty, if it’s a white racist it’s right wing.
    Other racists from other races are victims of right white racism and can’t, therefore be racist.
    It goes back to the great lie.
    Their defeated socialist Hitler, had to be disowned, and the propaganda was unchallenged for many years, which is our fault.

    It is evident that when put on the spot, they cannot for the life of them explain why National Socialists were right wing, will not even attempt to, and none of the tripe they have attempted to put forward in the past cuts mustard, and contradicts their own description of other socialist countries.

    The important thing I notice here, is it is being done again.
    If you notice , what they call “extreme Islam” is now being branded ultra conservative Islam, and all Islamic terrorist attacks are being branded “right wing” as well.
    So if you don’t want to own it, just push it over to your political enemies.

    If Monty was honest, and a man of any integrity, he would denounce this propaganda for the evil that it is, but instead , like SNIFFY McC..NTHOOKS, instead, takes the pathetic path of the low life, to use lies to grab at a bit of virtue signalling.
    They own this gunman.
    They own Hitler.
    They own the multicultural arse wipe politicians intent on bringing a self proclaimed enemy inside the walls of the city.
    They own racism, whether it be deciding on 100% white or a controlled percentage mix, the key is that they get to control racial mix.
    They are the collectivist scum who’s policies cause all of this, and then they have the gall to use lies to grandstand and throw their mess onto other people.
    Monty and Numbers.
    Your support of left wing policies puts you directly more responsible for what just happened in New Zealand than anyone on this blog….combined.
    Hang your heads in shame, and don’t you dare come on to a decent blog like this and dribble your lying shit to people you are not worthy of licking their feet.

  206. None

    No Leo. Defamation and slander are not free speech. they are defamation and slander.

  207. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “I’ve had two from people who identify themselves as readers and contributors here in the last three years.”

    Bullshit.

  208. None

    Just a run of the mill anarchist C.L. who took lessons from Brevnik’s PlayBook.

  209. Infidel Tiger

    Now the media are claiming he is making “white power” signs on court.

    This is one giant troll and he picked his mark beautifully.

  210. Zatara

    Who gave him those guns?

    I suspect it’s going to be more a question of who approved the permits…. because he owned them legally.

    “New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said the alleged shooter had five guns: two semi-automatic weapons and two shotguns. Ardern said the suspect legally obtained the weapons and acquired a gun license in November 2017.”

  211. Percy Popinjay

    If anyone who self identified in such a way had rung ,you would have been on the phone to the police in an instant.

    Put up or shut up, you noxious syphilis addled cockhead. Who were these mystery individuals?

    The accusation above, was made by someone who was busted attempting to have another commenter here disciplined and/or sacked from their job.

    Stick to jerking off about how wonderful you think moozleys are, spudpeeler. Oh and while you’re at it, do it somewhere else.

  212. C.L.

    The bizarre and growing community of leftists and feminists mutilating their children:

    INSIDE THE ONLINE COMMUNITY FACILITATING THE GENDER TRANSITIONS OF 5-YEAR-OLDS.

    Some conversations involve parents expressing confusion at their child’s lack of interest in prosthetic penises.

    “My kid doesn’t seem that miffed about not having a penis, which frankly throws me off a bit,” one reads.

    Others simply ask for recommendations for the best “age appropriate” fake penises for their young children, as well as for “stand-to-pee” (STP) devices…

    The online store Tranzwear seems to be a fan-favorite for those in search of fake child penises, offering products such as a “semi-erect“ unit for children “under [five years old],” as well as an item called “Best Boy Bump for the little guys“ which is “made especially for the younger kids…”

    Parents who believe their children to be a male-to-female transgender have the opposite problem, sharing tips and recommendations of products meant to help male children “tuck” to appear or feel more female. Many members mention Etsy stores by the names of Tuck Buddies and Leolines, both of which sell handmade feminine looking underwear with extra lining to help conceal the bulge of the male anatomy.

  213. Zatara

    And as predicted:

    “A lever-action firearm was also found. While work has been done as to the chain of events that led to both the holding of this gun license and the possession of these weapons, I can tell you one thing right now: Our gun laws will change,” Ardern said in a news conference Saturday morning local time.

    Ardern added there were previous attempts to change the gun laws in 2005, 2012 and 2017. “Now is the time for change,” she said.

    Yes, yes, another law will fix it.

  214. Leo G

    Tony Burke said yesterday that the Christchurch slaughter “…was born from hate speech…”

    The offspring of the people whose voices Tony hates?

  215. Arky

    The trolls have had no actual comments to make about the attack.
    Just here to gloat about it because they think it advances their political agenda.
    Sick, sick bastards.

  216. Bruce of Newcastle

    FOR SALE
    One shotty, only used on Sunday by elderly Christian lady …

    To be fair I recall another mass shooting in NZ where a guy went home, got a rifle and returned to take the shooter under fire. I won’t try for a link, it’d be hard with the present news flood unless I use Goolag, which I prefer to avoid.

  217. Arky

    C.L.
    #2960215, posted on March 16, 2019 at 10:34 am
    The bizarre and growing community of leftists and feminists mutilating their children:

    ..
    Jesus wept.

  218. Percy Popinjay

    Has there ever been a more stupid time in human history?

  219. bespoke

    If Sinc went through the archives looking for defamation against Muslims, Gays, men, woman and just about anyone on the planet you would be high on the list, None.

  220. C.L.

    The Democrat Party’s most beloved new icon and presidential candidate:

    ‘WAX MY ASS, SCRUB MY BALLS’ — BETO O’ROURKE POEM FROM 1988.

    Beto O’Rourke’s recently unearthed membership in the hacking group “Cult of the Dead Cow” may not have included the “edgiest sorts of hacking activity,” but it did, apparently, include writing murder fantasies and exceptionally bad poetry.

    Writing under the now-exposed pseudonym “Psychedelic Warlord,” a teen-aged O’Rourke appears to be the author of a poem titled “The Song of the Cow,” published in 1988 by “cDc (Cult of the Dead Cow) communications.”

    “I need a butt-shine,” the poem begins … and it really all just goes downhill from there:

    I need a butt-shine,
    Right now
    You are holy,
    Oh, sacred Cow
    I thirst for you,
    Provide Milk.

    Buff my balls,
    Love the Cow,
    Good fortune for those that do.
    Love me, breathe my feet,
    The Cow has risen.

    Wax my ass,
    Scrub my balls.
    The Cow has risen,
    Provide Milk.

    O’Rourke, who launched his 2020 presidential campaign Thursday, also reportedly wrote several disturbing pieces under the “Psychedelic Warlord” pseudo, including one in which the narrator fantasized about using his vehicle to run over children.

  221. Bruce of Newcastle

    Now the media are claiming he is making “white power” signs on court.

    Aryan race supporter?
    Fits with the Mosley reference in the manifesto.

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