Open Forum: March 16, 2019

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  1. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/victoria/six-animal-activists-charged-over-gippy-goat-alleged-livestock-thefts/news-story/1809f5a9d8494bfefaadd964dadf186c

    The whole thing was a fiasco from start to finish.
    They didn’t even have to repay the value of the livestock that was never recovered.

    Every farmer in Victoria should have been on the steps of the Premier’s office a week later, telling him they’re not leaving until he fixes his rigged courts & useless cops.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    Why don’t vikpol pursue those giving false testimony?

    (serious question)

    because they facilitated what they knew had to be a false statement, they knew his criminal history (and thus his failure twice to mention sexual abuse during sentencing for serious offences in the 70s and the 90s and allowed him to wipe out two years of detailed sexual abuse allegations that could not have happened because Br Tyrrell was simply not there.

    The Tyrrell case was a stitch up allowing draft after draft of the complaint to patch up holes in the story.
    However, in a general sense, a not guilty verdict or an overturned guilty verdict doesn’t necessarily give rise to a perjury action.
    For example, I could sit on a jury and conclude that a single complainant is, on the balance of probabilities, telling the truth, but still conclude that I couldn’t convict beyond reasonable doubt.
    And, exposing witnesses to perjury action if a conviction fails, obviously brings a whole new bunch of problems to the justice system.

  3. 1735099

    From David Kilcullen’s analysis in the Weekend Oz –

    One final comment: while driving, the shooter refers, in a disgustingly self-congratuality manner, to his own weapons skills, boasting about how rapidly he changed magazines during the “firefight”.
    But this was not a firefight; it was a vicious unprovoked slaughter against innocent worhippers peacefully going about their business in a public place.

  4. So a Viktoistani magistrate thinks Goat rustling (theft) is ok. wow.

    He/she must have been pressured by a religious group, whose name shall not be spoken.

  5. egg_

    There’s a Grigorian whiff about the place.

  6. Muddy

    Gippy Goat.

    Interesting. Thanks for the explanation, Socrates. As a MalignantMediaFauxb, I’d never heard (nor read) of it. I did comment yesterday or the day before, however, about the use of the term ‘activist’ and how I believe they might be justifiably labelled as a new criminal class.

  7. None

    Put Tony Windsor and Marcia Langton on the Fraser Anning list of public people who should never be heard from in public again
    https://mobile.twitter.com/marcialangton/status/1106463833319628800

  8. Mater

    Leigh it looks very cut and paste -it’s got lots of shades of Brevnik. You only needEd to spend 1/2 hour Googling all of Brevnik’s Manifesto to find his sources

    Perhaps, but I was always trained to consider both the most likely and the most dangerous scenario.

  9. egg_

    A guy from grafton becomes a retard 4chan neon nazi troll, travels to north korea and pakistan then heads to new zealand and massacres a bunch of muslims.

    Twilight Zone sh1te.

  10. Muddy

    ‘Activists’ = the new Criminal class.

    [Apologies for the repetition, I just wanted the top of a new page].

  11. IT, apart from the white power hog shit, the manifesto yearns for a time of anti corporatism & pro artisan, local economic communities.

    Which is exactly what a globalist would put in a manifesto if they wanted to cripple the anti-corporatist state movement.

    Ergo, IT is the next Tarrant!!!1!11!!1 Now it all makes sense.

  12. None

    So Leigh why does the Herald Sun stop people from writing that Tyrell is innocent or describing him as such. I thought once an appeal was successful the record is white and Tyrrell walks away an innocent man.

  13. None

    And what were you trained as Mater?

  14. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    When the farmer forced it to court, the accused were allowed a long speech of justification, the farmer/prosecution were not.

    The thieves were fined $1 each.

    Rule of Law is heading back to pre-magna carta days.

    When is anyone going to have charges brought against them for the blatant abuse of power by the I-forget-his-name administration?

  15. Mater

    And what were you trained as Mater?

    A florist.

  16. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Monstie if youse done the dishes can you mop the floor? Remember always respect da wahmen.

  17. Leigh Lowe

    So Leigh why does the Herald Sun stop people from writing that Tyrell is innocent or describing him as such. I thought once an appeal was successful the record is white and Tyrrell walks away an innocent man.

    Try “not guilty”.
    That is legally correct and slightly different to “innocent” in a legal sense.
    They should accept that.

  18. Rule of Law is heading back to pre-magna carta days.

    Yep.
    The new barons (activists) have first dibs on rooting any of your goats.

  19. Leigh Lowe

    And what were you trained as Mater?

    A florist.

    Pansy.

  20. egg_

    I’m an unemployed window dresser.

  21. None

    The new barons (activists) have first dibs on rooting any of your goats.

    lol

  22. C.L.

    ASIO didn’t notice a lad from Grafton travelling to North Korea?

    Absolute bullshit.

  23. Leigh Lowe

    Ergo, IT is the next Tarrant!!!1!11!!1 Now it all makes sense.

    Except he would use artisan weapons.
    A crossbow and mace would be my guess.

  24. None

    Wait for it. Egg izabout to have another one of his paranoid breakdowns.

  25. None

    I would say it would depend on where he applied for his North Korea visa C.L. if he was travelling for 7 years he could have applied for it when he was in Pakistan or China.

  26. egg_

    None
    #2959979, posted on March 16, 2019 at 2:58 am

    Quite a binge.

  27. None

    Thanks Leugh but why should one be limited to legal terms in everyday speech. Cheryl is assumed innocent when he goes to court to face some allegation. A jury finds him guilty but an appeal Court says no that verdict is unsafe it cannot stand. So why can’t one refer to his original state of innocent? If you can’t that basically smears every single person who is accused falsely.

  28. None

    And egg is off. I would like to inform you that eggs record is back in October 2028 where he posted on sodomy nearly 30 times on one single page. Can he out do himself today?

  29. Tel:

    Perhaps he should be asked why have a firearm in their Gods house?

    Self defense obviously.

    That’s the dangerous ground I was talking about.
    Are you allowed to have a weapon for self defence in NZ?
    You sure as shit are not allowed one here.
    Or are Muslims allowed but not whitey?

  30. Except he would use artisan weapons.
    A crossbow and mace would be my guess.

    If I remember Game of Thrones correctly, crossbows can still do the job.

  31. But you’re right LL. Arquebus control now!

  32. I can’t exactly nail down why this aspect bothers me so much, but my spider senses are tingling. It would be easy to write him off as another psychopath, and his manifesto as the confused ramblings of a nihilist, but I’m afraid I can’t. It just seems too calculated, too composed, too chess-like.

    Totally agree, Mater.

    So far, I have only read 24 pages of this approx 76 page dock. But I have been startled by the depth of the position – & the breadth of the reading re the cultural/social development of post war western societies.

    His analysis of the predicted birthrate decline of the West v his so called “invader” ethno groups (in particular Islamic) could come straight out of the analyses of Douglas Murray (“The Strange Death of Europe”, Christopher Caldwell (“Reflections on the Revolution in Europe”) & Mark Steyn ( “After America” et al).

    No wonder it has apparently now been taken down from the internet.

  33. Jock

    On a tangent for everybody. Given I am up the MNC ( semi retired) I see the odd political ad for the NSW election. Mostly crap especially the garbage from the ETU. But the ad by ” Country Labor” was hilarious. At the end it says “Spoken by xxxx and authorised by Country Labor, SYDNEY”. Yes Country Labor is run out of SYDNEY. We all knew this but I wonder if the dipsticks in HO realise how ridiculous this looks when its up on screen?

  34. zyconoclast

    GOP Sen. Kevin Cramer is leading a drive to reward 300,000 Indian visa workers for taking college graduate jobs from at least 200,000 young middle aged or older American graduates.

    Via Twitter, the North Dakota Senator is pushing the “Fairness for High Skilled Immigrants Act,” which was also championed by former GOP Rep. Kevin Yoder until he lost his 2018 election.

    The legislation “is about exactly that: fairness,” Cramer tweeted. “The long wait for these green cards is a disservice to legal immigrants and to the potential of the American economy. Let’s get this passed.”

  35. Zatara

    I would say it would depend on where he applied for his North Korea visa C.L. if he was travelling for 7 years he could have applied for it when he was in Pakistan or China.

    And his passport, more specifically the stamps in it, would have, or should have, been examined by NZ when he arrived.

    Failing that, then perhaps before they gave him a visitors weapons permit.

  36. zyconoclast

    Federal investigators arrested five people for helping Chinese nationals cheat their way into U.S. universities — and then perhaps into U.S. jobs and research laboratories.

    “The indictment charges the defendants with conspiring to use false passports, using false passports, and aggravated identity theft as part of the scheme to impersonate Chinese nationals who were required to take the Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL) to obtain a student visa,” said the official announcement.

    Student visas are the first step into the U.S. jobs market for many Chinese and Indian graduates.

  37. RobK

    A florist.

    Pansy.


    From accounts I’ve heard it’s a cut-throat business.

  38. notafan

    Thing is with Br Tyrrell is that the appeal court effectively called the accuser a liar, his evidence, the only evidence the prosecution had, was tossed out.

    So commonsense wise, rather than it being merely not proven beyond a reasonable doubt, once the entire ‘evidence’ being the uncorroborated testimony of a complete and utter liar and convicted criminal you have to say Br Tyrrell returns to his unblemished state of innocence.

    I don’t know if the jury heard the evidence about the accuser never raising the issue of abuse at his own personal sentencing hearings, I suspect not, given that accuser victims personal histories are usually excluded.

    It wasn’t clear to me reading the appeal decision, perhaps I should hunt down the original case.

    I know Richter tried to access sentencing statements for someone when Cardinal Pell’s case was up for committal, and was refused. Even if AA didn’t have a criminal record you would think the dead addict had one.

  39. zyconoclast

    The Kremlin plans to attract up to 10 million Russian-speaking migrants in the next six years to reverse the country’s population decline, the business daily Kommersant reported on Thursday.

    The Kremlin lists Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan*, Moldova and other post-Soviet states with Russian-speaking populations as so-called “donor countries” where new Russian citizens could be recruited, the paper writes.

    *These two countries are 70-90% Muslim

  40. zyconoclast

    The ten most violent cities in the world in 2018
    Ranked by average number of homicides per 100,000 residents

    Tijuana (Mexico) 138
    Acapulco (Mexico) 111
    Caracas (Venezuela) 100
    Victoria (Mexico) 86
    Juarez (Mexico) 86
    Irapuato (Mexico) 81
    Guayana (Venezuela) 78
    Natal (Brasil) 75
    Fortaleza (Brasil) 69
    Ciudad Bolívar (Venezuela) 69

  41. dover_beach

    So commonsense wise, rather than it being merely not proven beyond a reasonable doubt, once the entire ‘evidence’ being the uncorroborated testimony of a complete and utter liar and convicted criminal you have to say Br Tyrrell returns to his unblemished state of innocence.

    Of course. There is no middle ground given the presumption of innocence. If you fail to reach the relevant threshold establishing guilt then he is innocent of the charges.

  42. Confused Old Misfit

    Poarch Band of Creek Indians in Alabama has donated $184,000 to help cover the funeral costs of the 23 people killed by powerful tornadoes that hit a small town in Alabama last week.

    Well done.

  43. None

    Well unless he presented other idea for his gun permit Zatata, or a fresh passport because you can renew them for just five years. Mind you even if you did presenter passport with a North Korea visa the average public servant wouldn’t be able to speak much more than English and probably wouldn’t recognise it.

  44. Zatara

    I’d have shot Tarrant down where he stood without hesitation for what he was doing that day.

    Like it or not though, he makes some points worth consideration in his manifesto.

    As vicki said:

    No wonder it has apparently now been taken down from the internet.

    Indeed.

  45. feelthebern

    none, time you either had a cup of tea & a lie down, or you learn some comprehension.
    You remind me of the srr loon that used to hang out around these parts.

  46. vr

    Has any information been released about the other three people that were arrested?

  47. None

    Time for you to stop assuming things about me feeltheBern. And you can talk to your mother or your daughter like that but not to me.

  48. Viva

    That’s not the Queen Mother – surely that’s Hyacinth presiding over her water-side supper with riparian entertainments!

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/15/11/11026090-6812997-The_Queen_mother_enjoys_a_picnic_at_Balmoral-a-57_1552649910582.jpg

  49. dover_beach

    So Leigh why does the Herald Sun stop people from writing that Tyrell is innocent or describing him as such. I thought once an appeal was successful the record is white and Tyrrell walks away an innocent man.

    Because they are poisoning the well. They are deathly afraid that this will shortly be repeated re Pell’s conviction. So rather than having either declared innocent they want to pretend that the finding is an ambiguous ‘not proven’. No, if you fail meet the threshold, you are presumed innocent until shown otherwise. That the media is playing this game suggests the days are darkening indeed.

  50. Arky

    A political re- alignment is required across the world.
    The uni-parties that are for big government and a course towards global government must be forced to merge.
    A new coalition of parties: conservative, old labour and the more sensible libertarians must unite under
    the flags of soveriegnty and representative governance.
    That is the difference.
    The old parties want elite control across the globe, along with censorship and surveilance.
    The opposition to the old parties want soveriegn nations where voters can oust bad leaders.
    This difference must be made explicit.

  51. Zatara – I wouldn’t have even blinked.

  52. vr;

    Has any information been released about the other three people that were arrested?

    No, and isn’t that odd – normally their photos would be all over the place.

  53. Mitchell Porter

    Swedish blog http://kontrakontoret.blogspot.com/ has an analysis of the Christchurch shooter’s manifesto.

  54. Arky

    Those of us who reject the failed old parties must no longer allow ourselves to be labelled nationalists.
    We are for representation and sovereignty.

  55. Zatara

    We are for representation and sovereignty.

    Personally, label me a nationalist all ya want. Sovereignty pretty much requires a nation to be sovereign of doesn’t it?

  56. Arky

    You won’t get everyone decent who opposes the uniparties to unite under the label of nationalism Zatara.
    You can be as nationalist as you want, but that won’t describe a broader movement to oppose these elitist scoundrels.

  57. notafan

    Thanks Mitchell

    in a nutshell

    a green nationalist

    We denounce green nationalist terrorism!

  58. Dr Fred Lenin

    Perhaps they are trying to make the shootings into a right wing extremist group killing , to condemn non globalist people ,some globalists will no doubt call this a “Nazi” group , without admitting Hitler was a socialist like they are ,like Antifa the anti fascist fascists, todays brown shirts or red guards .

  59. stackja

    Regarding nationalist.

    Nationalist Party (Australia)
    From Wikipedia
    The Nationalist Party was an Australian political party. It was formed on 17 February 1917 from a merger between the conservative Commonwealth Liberal Party and the National Labor Party, the latter formed by Prime Minister Billy Hughes and his supporters after the 1916 Labor Party split over World War I conscription. The Nationalist Party was in government (from 1923 in coalition with the Country Party) until electoral defeat in 1929. From that time it was the main opposition to the Labor Party until it merged with pro-Joseph Lyons Labor defectors to form the United Australia Party (UAP) in 1931. The UAP was the immediate predecessor to the current Liberal Party of Australia, the main centre-right party in Australia.

  60. Steve trickler

    The SPOT has cleaned the language up, although i do hope Adults Only versions continue to be made.

    He’s making a dent.



  61. bespoke

    And you can talk to your mother or your daughter like that but not to me.

  62. egg_

    time you either had a cup of tea & a lie down, or you learn some comprehension.
    You remind me of the srr loon that used to hang out around these parts.

    At least, SRR had a sense of humour.
    Some walls of text would be welcome at the moment.

  63. Tel

    $100 for a look up? Well that’s exactly why the cops should not be playing along with the telcos. It’s bad enough the ABC and power companies and NBN siphoning off all my tax dollars without the f****** useless telcos siphoning them off as well.

    So hang on, your argument is that the cops literally don’t have the tools (that’s what you said), because it costs a bit of money (not sure of the exact price, but not real high). So by the same logic you want cops to work for free as well, right?

    A true libertarian would of course want private police, but anyone with an ounce of operational grey matter would understand that still requires payment. Do you also expect private security guards to offer free service? How about your local supermarket … help yourself do you? I mean everything is supposed to be free, isn’t that so? Tradespeople go to Bunnings expecting to be handed some free tools. Happens every day in your world.

  64. Zatara

    You won’t get everyone decent who opposes the uniparties to unite under the label of nationalism

    Sovereignty Party it is then.

    Anyone who can spell it correctly twice in a row can be a Senator.

  65. bespoke

    They are on the job already, Tel so why isn’t it included. But that’s doesn’t discount that it is available and cheep.

  66. Leo G

    I’d have shot Tarrant down where he stood without hesitation for what he was doing that day.
    Like it or not though, he makes some points worth consideration in his manifesto.

    I doubt that the manifesto was his own effort.
    The fellow appears to be an Anders Breivik copycat killer, in which case the manifesto would be merely a prop, and the victims chosen as soft idealogically-sensitive targets.
    The broadcast media sensationalised Breivik, falsely portrayed him as a hero of right-wing extremism, without heeding concerns of criminologists that such media treatment can lead to copycat killings.
    Now we have a copycat killing where the killer publicly references Breivik and the MSM pretend not to see the connection.
    Tarrant is a pathetic creature who shouldn’t be regarded as an antihero with a cause and purpose which needs to be defeated. Even psychology struggles to explain the genuine basis for their violent acts.

  67. stackja

    Senator Fraser Anning has been egged at an organised event in Melbourne which saw protestors and supporters of the controversial identity clash in wild scenes.

    At the event in Moorabbin, on Saturday, a man can be seen smashing an egg over the senator’s head as he was speaking at a press conference. The man was filming on his phone as he smashed the egg on top of Mr Anning’s head.

    A shocked Mr Anning slapped the man’s face in response before a fight broke out.

    Damian McIver

    @mciver_d
    Senator Fraser Anning has just been egged while speaking to the media in Melbourne. The young man who did it was led away by police @abcnews

    772
    3:26 PM – Mar 16, 2019

    Reminds that Billy Hughes was egged and fought back.

  68. Nick

    Jeez that Ardern is a sullen looking piece. I get the feeling she’s about to launch into a scolding lecture at any moment.

  69. None

    Tell I’m not a libertarian . I find libertarianism naive impractical and basically just for prepubescent boys. $100 for lookup is absolutely overcharging given the information is readily available in their billing system. These big companies love to lecture us on their social conscience that when it comes to actually doing something they go for a full-scale price gouging. So I’m quite happy with the police refusal to check numbers except in the most serious cases.

  70. None

    The guy who egged Anning has been arrested I think. Anning is going to get censured it will be a bipartisan move but for my money he is a fukwit troll who should be ignored. All the media and the politicians are doing in their attempts to out virtue signal each other is giving him a notoriety that he doesn’t deserve.

  71. Tel

    None, you have no freaking idea of how to do the work, and I’m not sure exactly what the price is I was offering a ballpark, but if you think it’s a rip off go start your own telco and prove you can do it much cheaper. They aren’t going to do it for a couple of bucks.

    Do you have any idea of prices? How much for a plumber to change a tap washer do you think?

  72. Antipostmodernism

    Waleed Aly is a two-faced sanctimonious snake. I never saw him get emotional for the victims of the other 99 percent of terrorists acts in this part of the world that are in the name of his religion. What specifically stood was out was his disgust over some people still disapproving of the Lebanese Concession. Strewth even ASIO warned against the import of shady Muslims with suspected terrorist sympathies, criminal tendencies, fake identity papers, no English, and no skills. Fraser ignored that wise advice and that fake virtue has manifestly turned out to be an on-going disaster for this country.

  73. Nick

    The SMH:

    Jacinda Ardern shines on New Zealand’s darkest day

    I’ll spare Cats the hagiographic adjectives written about her, quite a contrast about what would be written about, say, a Trump or an Abbott who had reacted in the same way.

  74. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    a green nationalist

    Who would have thought such a thing was even possible?!?!

  75. John64

    Nein online reporting that the Government’s on-again-off-again Milo ban is on again.

  76. Tel

    None, what do you think it costs for the police to spend fifteen minutes taking down the report? Include the cost of the station, the equipment, the electricity, the wages. Let’s suppose the police spend another four hours doing some “investigation” whatever that might entail. How much is that costing? Include cost of police cars, and at least two people to drive out and ask a few questions.

    Would that be over or under a hundred bucks do you think? Where does the money actually go here?

  77. Robber Baron

    A few mates and I (with families) have decided to not go to the opening round of AFL footy for reasons of blow-back from the religion of peace. I’ve also decided to boycott all major public events/areas for the foreseeable future until the retaliation has occurred. No point in putting myself in harm’s way. We all know there are some very determined muzzos out there planning retaliation right now.

    One of my mates has decided that international travel is off the list for a while as well because he thinks retaliation is a certainty. He thinks multiple retaliation events will occur.

  78. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Al jazeera doesn’t miss a beat
    New Zealand mosque attacks and the scourge of white supremacy
    by Mohamad Elmasry

  79. calli

    a green nationalist

    Yep.

    I wonder when ScoMo’s mouth will shoot his other foot off?

    Perhaps he needs a hug.

  80. Bruce in WA

    Someone upthread was questioning the SFFP preferencing Labor at the NSW election.

    No, they’re not.

  81. None

    Tel. My plumber changes a tap washer for $30 but that’s only because the tap had seized and I needed him to virtually drill out the tap part. He charges $80 clear tree roots. Others might charge up to $120.

    Yes I have some idea of business pricing for big corps although woefully out of date.

    Australia essentially only has 3 telcos and probably can only support three There was some talk by some loud now that they would start a fourth but of course that was just all talk.

  82. Zatara

    About that Beto person who just declared for Pres in the US…

    Buff My Balls

  83. Nein online reporting that the Government’s on-again-off-again Milo ban is on again.

    Did the AU govt organize something to justify banning Milo?
    Shirley not.

  84. calli

    Or is that a nationalist green?

    A home-grown loon with the intellect of broccoli?

  85. Zatara

    Whoops, in moderation. Try again.

    About that Beto person who just declared he was running for Pres in the US. Who knew he was a poet?

    Wax my As, Buff my Bs

  86. None

    Tel – I’ve pointed out to you that the telco’s charge the police for lookups and the police refuse to pay the exorbitant mounts the Telcos request and therefore limit their lookups to only the most serious cases and I am more than happy with that.
    I will also let you know that small business which runs on the smell of an oily rag often helps out police or other government authorities without charging at all. Dictors however are currently refusing to participate in e-health because they don’t get compensated for their time in uploading records. I’m happy with that too.

  87. Leo G

    I wonder when ScoMo’s mouth will shoot his other foot off?
    Perhaps he needs a hug.

    Hugging not recommended. Turnbullemia appears to be contagious and incurable.

  88. Viva

    Harry and Meghan have hired former Clinton and Blair staffer Sara Latham as their head of communications. Latham worked with the Democratic nominee during her 2016 presidential campaign. She also served as chief of staff to John Podesta, the chairman of Clinton’s campaign.

    Looks like SJW Meghan is looking to up the ante.

  89. Bruce of Newcastle

    Harry and Meghan have hired former Clinton and Blair staffer Sara Latham as their head of communications.

    Meghan 2020!
    She may as well stand. Everyone else is.

  90. None

    Don’t worry Antipost someone posted video of Waleed’s crybaby spiel and people are retweeting it with his terrorism is a perpetual irritant quote. Good. I’m can feel Sympathy For The New Zealand victims without pandering to Waleed’s two-faced hypocrisy.

  91. mh

    Looks like SJW Meghan is looking to up the ante.

    Cats saw right through this sham right from the beginning.

  92. None

    The markle woman’s going to be an insufferable pest. She’s nearly 40 but I hope she gets pressured to have another kid quickly. That might keep her occupied for two or three years until Harry wakes up and divorces her.

  93. Bruce of Newcastle

    Harry could be the first royal Significant Other in the WH.

  94. C.L.

    I saw the Waleedorial on The Project with the background sad muzak (really) and the theatrical about-to-cry delivery. “A politician I won’t name said ‘we should never have allowed Lebanese Muslims into this county’,” he said, as he quoted various white people he doesn’t like. By that stage I was walking out of the room but I said aloud as I went, “fuckin’ oath we shouldn’t have.”
    ——————-
    This is quite brilliant – watch it all:

  95. Nick

    CL’s Duchess Wallace Markel, is spot on.

  96. calli

    I love the “Wallace” rather than “Wallis”.

    She wears the pants, after all.

  97. Muddy

    You know you need it. We need it. Society needs it. We are you, you are we.
    Say YES to SOMA.

    Soma, the drug used widely by characters in Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World,” symbolizes a replacement for religion in society. In this new world, soma allows people to escape from reality by thinking less critically. The novel, which was published in 1932, refers to the drug as having “all the advantages of Christianity and alcohol; none of their defects.”

    Huxley took the name soma from an intoxicating drink Aryan invaders discovered 3,500 years ago in India. The fermented beverage, according to historians, was traditionally used as an offering to Hindu gods. It made the Aryans feel bold, strong and euphoric. The word is also Latin for “sleep.”

    In “Brave New World,” soma serves as a potent hallucinogen that creates a strong sense of well-being and calm. In this way, soma suppresses feelings of discontent, fear and anger, thereby preventing people from discovering the causes of those feelings. The novel takes the sentiment behind the Karl Marx quotation, “religion is the opiate of the masses” to a literal level.

    Toward the end of the novel, the character John the Savage rebels against society, focusing his anger on soma, which he sees as the primary means of oppression in the future state.

    Source.

    It rolls off the tongue so smoothly, doesn’t it?
    SOMA…

  98. egg_

    Waleed Aly is a two-faced sanctimonious snake. I never saw him get emotional for the victims of the other 99 percent of terrorists acts in this part of the world that are in the name of his religion

    Terrorism good – drones bad.
    Wasn’t Obambi a big fan of drones?

  99. Overburdened

    OK now that the pos from bum poke has had his 15 mins can the media and everyone else now shun him.

  100. Pedro the Ignorant

    Waleed Aly is an oleaginous prick.

    Great word, innit?

  101. Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastle

    If you have some spare time, and wish to (attempt to) educate someone, head over to donaitkin.com, the thread on Whose Science Are We Talking About.

    A commenter there has made the following flat assertions: “the current(warming) trend will continue into the future, and there is no stopping point in melting land ice”, “the current warming trend will not terminate while ever CO2 continues to inceease in the atmosphere”, and “CO2 levels were never, never, never near current levels” during earlier warm periods. He made other assertions also, but these stood out.

    I doubt that you will have any effect on him, he is a true believer, but other readers might benefit.

    Thanks in anticipation.

  102. Baldrick

    SloMo doubles down on his right-wing statement from yesterday …

    Bevan Shields ✔ @BevanShields
    EXCLUSIVE: The Morrison government will definitely ban Milo Yiannopoulos following the Christchurch terrorist massacre. Formal announcement coming later this afternoon.

    Stupid.Fucking.Liberals

  103. rickw

    Why do kiwis give gun licences to non citizens?

    That sounds pretty dumb.

    Remember the Monash shooter? Non-resident student with a pistol license.

  104. egg_

    SloMo doubles down on his right-wing statement from yesterday …

    The nosediver is a courting a non-existent Middle Ostraya?

  105. rickw

    SloMo doubles down on his right-wing statement from yesterday …

    I thought he had maxed out the stupid with that statement, but as a career idiot, he found a way to take it a bit further.

  106. None

    Americans fought a war of independence. Megan in the White House not sure that’s going to go down.

  107. None

    The Herald Sun’a idea of reporting on a major news story from Christchurch is to write articles on celebrity reactions on Twitter. I am so glad I no longer pay a single Cent to any mainstream newspaper. Shocking stuff

  108. None

    Pedro the Ignorant

    #2960614, posted on March 16, 2019 at 5:15 pm

    Yep.

  109. None

    Baldrick

    #2960617, posted on March 16, 2019 at 5:18 pm

    yep hello tits for PM

  110. egg_

    What’s F.A.G.’s response to Christchurch?
    World peas?

  111. mh

    Court files reveal role of McCain, associate in spreading anti-Trump dossier

    …Newly unsealed court filings show how the late Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and an associate shared with the FBI and a host of media outlets the unverified dossier that alleged the Russians had compromising information on now-President Trump.

    McCain had denied being the source for BuzzFeed after it published the dossier, which was funded by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, but had acknowledged giving it to the FBI.

    In a newly unsealed declaration from September, former senior counterintelligence FBI agent Bill Priestap confirmed that the FBI received a copy of the first 33 pages of the dossier in December 2016 from McCain.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/court-files-reveal-role-of-mccain-aide-in-spreading-anti-trump-dossier

  112. struth

    We see SLO MO telling us that while he knows nothing about actual politics, he knows who he doesn’t want to be associated with.
    Right wing voters.

    This is the insanity as we slide to Venestralia.

  113. calli

    Waleed looks…irritated.

  114. egg_

    SloMo doubles down on his right-wing statement from yesterday …

    Is Texta Mark still their strategist?

  115. woolfe

    Just wrote this in paywallian:

    In his manifesto he self describes as an eco fascist and says “The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China”

    He also visited North Korea, so yea sounds like a real far right winger.

    Bet it won’t be published.

  116. Muddy

    SloMo says yes to Soma. Shorten promises higher dose. Zeros vow to drug your pets.

  117. mh

    Jeez that Ardern is a sullen looking piece.

    Mares can often be like that.

  118. struth

    Even the left are tearing themselves up because they wanted so badly for this bloke to be right wing, but his manifesto was put up for all to see, so that stuffed them
    They’ll pull it off the internet and slowly ((relatively) start bending the truth and just continue chanting until it becomes the accepted history.
    Just like the Hitler lie.

    But no need…………………….wait, who’s the most anxious to come out and call it right wing extremist terrorism, even when the left have gone to ground while they work out how to spin it, why, it’s PM Dumbo Morrison…………………..a Liberal Party leader.
    Fuck waiting for the left to work out how to mould the Nazi narrative, just attack the right, Sco Mo, get in there kicking, use it to Ban Milo, ………………………………………..hey, yeah it was those bastards that give you a hard time about pulling out of Global socialism’s Paris agreement.
    Get in there Sco Mo, why wait for the left, start kicking those bastards now.

  119. egg_

    SloMo must’ve stolen Trumble’s “brown fingers” playbook.

  120. Bruce of Newcastle

    Boambee John – I’ve replied to one of his comments. In moderation as I’ve not posted on Don’s blog before. I’ll keep an eye on the thread and see if he is interested in a discussion.

  121. jupes

    Bevan Shields ✔ @BevanShields
    EXCLUSIVE: The Morrison government will definitely ban Milo Yiannopoulos following the Christchurch terrorist massacre. Formal announcement coming later this afternoon.

    Wow. Milo has never preached violence. The Koran on the other hand …

    As for SloMo and the Liberals; the idiot has just shredded any doubt remaining that they are a left wing party. Too.Stupid.To.Survive.

  122. mh

    The ten most violent cities in the world in 2018
    Ranked by average number of homicides per 100,000 residents

    Tijuana (Mexico) 138
    Acapulco (Mexico) 111
    Caracas (Venezuela) 100
    Victoria (Mexico) 86
    Juarez (Mexico) 86
    Irapuato (Mexico) 81
    Guayana (Venezuela) 78
    Natal (Brasil) 75
    Fortaleza (Brasil) 69
    Ciudad Bolívar (Venezuela) 69

    If your country was bordering that lot you would want some type of barrier.

    Like a wall.

  123. None

    Daniel McCarthy

    @ToryAnarchist

    A movement that bans plastic bags and straws but shuns nuclear power is not clean or green, it’s just bossy and onanistic.

  124. jupes

    Even the left are tearing themselves up because they wanted so badly for this bloke to be right wing, but his manifesto was put up for all to see, so that stuffed them

    Not at all. The press just show the parts that show he is a white racist. They already have him supporting Trump.

    Here is Trump and the shooter using the same language.

    Who do you think is going to rebut that struth?

  125. None

    The News Corp lavender Mafia really hate Milo and mine is not even conservative that he’s close enough in their tiny little minds. I remember one gay conservative telling me it was a lot harder to come out conservative than to come out gay and the News Corp lavender Mafia demonstrate why.

  126. Antipostmodernism

    I was watching one of those awful women’s AFL games for a laugh with my son and I explained how this alleged elite sport was fake and part of diversity ideology and how pathetic the skill level is – eg one of these teams only scored one goal in the whole game. Excruciating. The commentators do well to appear enthusiastic about this travesty.

    Anyway, the players were all wearing black armbands which raised my suspicions, and sure enough at the end of the game the first player they interviewed was a muslim about the shooting. Why does AFL have all these extraneous ideological bolt-ons? It seems that authentic sporting culture has been hollowed out to sell that crap as the prime concern. An NRL game was on at the same time and there were no armbands.

  127. Muddy

    MoBro SloMo says NO to Milo?

  128. None

    Remember the mega did the same without Norwegian guys Manifesto. Theven ABC here tried to pin the horror on to John Howard. So I’m predicted I’ll go for Trump and not even 24 hours later CNN is cherry picking quotes to go after Trump. This guy even claim to be an eco fashion that count how many media outlets are just quoting that as fascist. The media and not your friends. Yes of course this terrorist shot has used internet social media to amplify his evil but imagine if our so-called media ran rampant while we suffered controlled access to the internet.

  129. Tel

    I will also let you know that small business which runs on the smell of an oily rag often helps out police or other government authorities without charging at all.

    I’m well aware of that … they give em free coffee and a donut if a couple of cops sit in a prominent place in view of the street so no one thinks about doing any funny cafe business.

    Don’t have a problem with that whatsoever. It’s voluntary, it probably reduced crime a little bit.

    But if you expect work done you have to pay for it, and if you think the price is “exorbitant” that’s because you fundamentally have no idea what’s involved or how much it costs.

    As Socrates pointed out, for a few extra cents a week you can get them to at least provide a bit of extra data to the cops, and that might make all the difference. Anyone unwilling to pay that, really isn’t in fear of their life all that badly. So yes the tools are available, no when you compare with everything else the cost is not unreasonable. Deal with it … don’t double down on wrongness like a leftoid.

  130. Tel

    In his manifesto he self describes as an eco fascist and says “The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China”

    More of a Monarchy than a Republic these days.

    Might be an Empire if their Belt and Trousers Initiative gets underway.

  131. Helping the police with data can be quite costly.
    Case study: There are a total of 80 CCTV at my place.
    How many cover areas outside the boundary of the business, that is the street, the footpath?

    Zero.

    Have a guess why this is so.

  132. EvilElvis

    The one on the far right… fat guy posing as a cop.

    The sheila is kind of a looker, but the pony tail makes her look really hardcore cop-like.

    His only exercise is fapping to screenshots from his bodycam of his partner every time he ‘accidently’ drops his clip in the change room and gets her to pick it up.

    Her only exercise is lifting the phone to her lawyer to squeeze more money out of her ex, and father to her 3 kids as she’s realised that this shit isn’t what the Emily listers made the job out to be. That being a wank bank trophy to her partner or dealing with armed nutters.

  133. Confused Old Misfit

    The sheila is kind of a looker, but the pony tail makes her look really hardcore cop-like.

    kind of a looker

    ???????
    Take the beer goggles off!

  134. JC

    Have a guess why this is so

    Paranoia?

    Dude, the old Hilton in NYC, which takes up an entire block would have less than your total. But that’s just a rough guess.

  135. C.L.

    The Morrison government will definitely ban Milo Yiannopoulos following the Christchurch terrorist massacre.

    Muslims spend 20 years murdering and r-aping people around the Western world and the Liberals ramp up the immigration of Mohammedans. But following the NZ massacre, they ban … Milo Yiannopoulos. Not because of anything he will do or say. The real reason they’re banning him is because left-wing terrorists will once again target his events and assault his audiences. Some Australians are a threat to Milo, then, but he not a threat to anybody. This is now the country we live in; opinions are banned, trials are secret, innocent men are jailed and camp rhetoricians are blocked at the border. I say this as somebody who doesn’t even like Milo.

  136. Overburdened

    Hmm that request didn’t work

  137. None

    Tel we don’t have a copper line service here – it was cut off when NBN arrived and Telstra’s little extra few cents a day was just all b******* anyway.

  138. Overburdened

    CL
    One wouldn’t want to wake the alternative sleeping giant

  139. calli

    What did Milo say? Mark Riley doesn’t want to tell me and I want to know.

  140. Tel

    Sorry but tracing calls long ago stopped having anything to do with copper. Seriously, stop doubling down on stuff you know nothing about.

  141. Pedro the Ignorant

    Those furry little rat-like Quokkas on Rottnest Island have to be worth millions in free publicity for WA tourism.

    3+ million “likes”; Chris Hemsworth Quokka selfie.

  142. Caveman

    So, Tarrant got off the gravatron.

  143. JC

    Drillsie, you realize it would be breaking all sort of laws if you have these devices in rooms, right? It reminds me of an old movie about the NY developer living in the penthouse spying on the residents. He had a room in his penthouse decked out with all these screens.

    Sliver

    Billy Baldwin, Baldwin’s sane brother was in it.

    Carly Norris (Sharon Stone), a book editor and divorcee, moves into the exclusive New York City sliver building “113”. She meets other tenants including Zeke (William Baldwin), a video game designer, Jack (Tom Berenger), a novelist, Vida (Polly Walker) a fashion model who moonlights as a call girl and Gus (Keene Curtis), a professor of videography at New York University. They tell Carly that she bears a striking resemblance to the previous tenant of her apartment, Naomi Singer, who fell to her death from her balcony.

    After running into Zeke numerous times Carly invites him to her housewarming party. Soon after they begin a sexual relationship. Meanwhile Jack starts stalking Carly and warning her about Zeke who he says is “sick”. As Jack’s behaviour becomes more erratic, Gus and Vida die under suspicious circumstances. Zeke reveals to Carly that he is the owner of 113, which he bought with the inheritance of his wealthy father. As owner of 113, Zeke installed a comprehensive video surveillance system throughout the building, allowing him to spy on all of the tenants of 113 from his own secret surveillance room. Through deduction and, eventually, one of Zeke’s secret recordings Carly learns that Jack killed Naomi in a crime passionel. Jack was jealous of Zeke, who had sexual relations with Naomi and a number of other tenants in 113. Finally Jack attacks Carly in her own apartment and she shoots him dead.

    Angry at Zeke for withholding evidence in Naomi’s murder, and jealous of his liaisons with the other tenants, Carly destroys Zeke’s surveillance room and tells him to “get a life” before leaving.

  144. None

    Milo should come as a private citizen and then hold an outdoor speaking engagement in front of Dan Andrews house.

  145. None

    Tell if I wanted to trace a call I have enough contacts to do it thank you.

  146. EvilElvis

    Obviously the homosexual lobby are outraged that one of their own would be denied entry to this ridiculous, rainbow and fairy floss land. Aren’t they?…

  147. None

    The female cop is an attractive woman and you can tell she also works out cause she’s got a nice set of biceps which even Michelle Obama would be jealous of. Can’t say the same about her two colleagues.

  148. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Moslems have posted far worst shit than this. Obviously dont go there if it bothers you.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/infinitechan/comments/b1nr5s/woah_this_guy_is_so_good_at_airsoft/

  149. struth

    Slo Mo is banning Milo on the basis of what?

    He’s really fucking up big time here.
    Talk about a cowardly, insidiously bad call.

    Besides the fact that Milo does not share the same political values as the shooter, he is banning him because he believes he does.
    Completely insane and illogical, however, if that’s the case, after the first mussie terror attack occurred on our soil, it would mean not only no more mussie immigrating but no more mussies even visiting, as he has banned Milo.

    This is pitchfork and torches time.

    He’s Islam’s whore.
    He’s global socialist’s Sl..t.
    What an absolute POS.
    I’ve got to say this, I think Turnbull would have had more smarts, even if it was just about his own survival.
    And that’s saying something.

    I’m furious with our traitorous prick of a PM.
    He would have just shut up.

  150. Confused Old Misfit

    The female cop is an attractive woman

    Nope!
    She may have a “terrific personality” but she looks as hard as nails.
    Conceding only that the definition of “attractive” subjective.

  151. Tel

    Slo Mo is banning Milo on the basis of what?

    Because otherwise the ABC won’t love him and hug him.

  152. calli

    Slo Mo is banning Milo on the basis of what?

    Apparently he tweeted something objectionable about the Christchurch killings.

    But no one on Seven News wanted to tell me. They said it was too horrid for their viewers’ ears.

  153. JC

    Misfit

    She’s reasonably attractive. She looks hard because her face is contorted due to the tension of the situation. Put on your reading glasses and have another look.

  154. egg_

    Sorry but tracing calls long ago stopped having anything to do with copper.

    Yup, but even better, there is now a permanent audit trail of the call.
    /911 bulldust

  155. EvilElvis

    her face is contorted due to the tension of the situation.

    I thought that was the “god I hope tubby is not looking at my arse again/why does baldy have to be gay” look. Fine lines I guess, JC.

  156. JC

    Let me say that the person ( I refuse to name him) who committed this unspeakable crime is an evil disgusting piece of shit who should have been gunned down immediately when the cops saw him. There was no reason to keep him alive. He killed kids!

    Let me also say that when you begin to import people the host nation is unconformable with, you may likely end up with this sort of thing. It’s not like we haven’t seen the reverse – Muslim fanatics attacking and killing non-Muslims.

    We don’t like each other. Stop immigration from these countries.

  157. Confused Old Misfit

    the definition of “attractive” (is) subjective.

    Might take your market advice JC, but after second look, your assessment of pulchritudinous attributes is far from robust.
    Never in a thousand years could I fancy that.
    She’s all yours!

  158. rickw

    We don’t like each other. Stop immigration from these countries.

    Yep.

  159. Elle

    Zippy, I clicked. Wish I hadn’t. First time I’ve seen it.
    It was like a guy playing one of those violent video games, casually going room to room.

  160. JC

    The murderous piece of shit fits very nicely in the militant eco-nazi wing of the left.

  161. JC

    JC & None:
    This is more my style.

    Of course, it’s not binary.

  162. JC

    How true.

    We are totally failing our youth. They’re capable of being so incredibly intelligent, open-minded, and ethical. But we destroy them with so much bullshit. It’s such a sad story. The internet will probably end up being better stewards of our children.

  163. egg_

    The murderous piece of shit fits very nicely in the militant eco-nazi wing of the left.

    Mo’s puritanical views fit better with the extreme right.

  164. struth

    Mussies leave the country to fight western forces and commit acts of terrorism, and our politicians tear themselves apart trying to find some way of bypassing the people’s wishes and let them back in.
    A murderer on Manus, my god, can’t have him banned from Australia, even though he’s fed and sheltered and looked after medically by the Australian taxpayer, until they can sneek him in.

    Yet Milo……………….may have tweeted something, and it was probably just the truth.

    We are at war with our political elite.
    Nothing could be more obvious.
    They are being paid to change the make up and culture of this country.
    And whether they are getting paid or not is irrelevant.

    Their actions are traitorous to our nation and in direct conflict with the values our diggers fought and died for.

    I tell you what I’d like to say right now.
    I’m FUCKING FUMING.

    I’ve got to calm down and get in the right mood.
    I’m on stage at 8 pm Qld time.

    FMD.

  165. Antipostmodernism

    CL, we are still stuck with this outdated idea of the tyranny of the majority so minorities will always get an easy ride by authority no matter how villainous they are. I am thinking of the riot against muslims at Cronulla, and as ugly as that was no-one really got hurt, but later that evening the vengeful Lebs gathered around Lakemba mosque (of course), and the police were ordered to keep their distance and effectively escorted the thugs down to the Shire to knife and belt the tripe out of any white person dumb enough to be on the street. Hundreds of cars ended being destroyed around the beach areas and they had to have curfews to stop the Muslim fury even though they pretended the risk was two way.

    And the really annoying legacy is that the Left still cherry pick the Cronulla riots as that one particular televised fracas where alleged white supremacists showed our racist national character and randomly attacked Muslims, and they don’t mention the years of Muslims travelling down to the Shire in packs to bash non-muslims and harass women that police ignored, and also airbrush out the much greater muslim violence after the initial protest against their antisocial behaviour. It’s all a stitch up against whitey.

  166. “People aren’t radicalised by their own side. They get pushed to the far-right by the left, not by others on the right,” Yiannopoulos wrote in the post.

    “Attacks like this happen because the establishment panders to and mollycoddles extremist leftism and barbaric, alien religious cultures. Not when someone dares to point it out.”

  167. Caveman

    It was like a guy playing one of those violent video games, casually going room to room.

    No different to IS showing beheadings, burnings , and other assorted attrocities. This video just happens to be more available for viewing.

  168. Elle

    Obviously the homosexual lobby are outraged that one of their own would be denied entry to this ridiculous, rainbow and fairy floss land. Aren’t they?…

    Of course they’re not … and you know why.

  169. EvilElvis

    Of course they’re not … and you know why.

    Because Milos gay!

    No, wait…

    Guessing games aren’t my forte, Elle…

    Gimme a moment…

  170. Elle

    Nothing to do with him being gay, Elvis.

  171. egg_

    “Attacks like this happen because the establishment panders to and mollycoddles extremist leftism and barbaric, alien religious cultures.

    That don’t always happily co-exist – especially the nutters, who likely DO attack their own.

  172. Nob

    Pedro the Ignorant
    #2960665, posted on March 16, 2019 at 6:19 pm
    Those furry little rat-like Quokkas on Rottnest Island have to be worth millions in free publicity for WA tourism

    Is there a PETA campaign to ban quokka selfies yet?

    If not, there will be now.

  173. C.L.

    Here’s what Milo Yiannopoulos wrote on Facebook …
    Milo Yiannopoulos banned from Australia over Christchurch comment.

    “People aren’t radicalised by their own side. They get pushed to the far-right by the left, not by others on the right,” Yiannopoulos wrote in the post.

    “Attacks like this happen because the establishment panders to and mollycoddles extremist leftism and barbaric, alien religious cultures. Not when someone dares to point it out.”

    Pretty accurate analysis.
    ———-
    Praise for the Morrison ban from an ultra-loyalist Muslim spokesman:

    Labor MP Tony Burke has taken to Twitter to praise the ban.

    “Milo banned. Good. His overnight comments weren’t that different from how he has always behaved. There was already enough evidence to ban him which is why the department had already recommended he be banned. The Australian tours for the world’s hate speakers must stop,” he tweeted.

    ———-
    SBS adds:

    The controversial British right-wing commentator still owes Victorian Police $50,000 to cover policing at a Melbourne event in December 2017, which saw violent clashes.

    By “saw violent clashes,” they mean left-wing terrorists arrived to assault him and his audience.
    Naturally, the corrupt Victoria Police backed the terrorists.

  174. Baldrick

    Apparently he tweeted something objectionable about the Christchurch killings.
    But no one on Seven News wanted to tell me. They said it was too horrid for their viewers’ ears.

    Here’s what Yiannopoulos said about Islam, calli …

    In a Facebook post overnight, Mr Yiannopoulos said Owens had “nothing to do with what happened” in New Zealand and appeared to blame the left for the deadly assault.
    “People aren’t radicalised by their own side. They get pushed to the far-right by the left, not by others on the right,” Mr Yiannopoulos wrote in a post that has since been shared widely.
    “Attacks like this happen because the establishment panders to and mollycoddles extremist leftism and barbaric, alien religious cultures. Not when someone dares to point it out.”
    Mr Yiannopoulos noted in the post that he rejected political violence.
    The government was appalled by Mr Yiannopoulos’ response to the New Zealand terrorist attack and will make a formal announcement about the ban on Saturday afternoon.

  175. None

    Onya Misfit. Each to his own. I think she’s going to regret that thigh tat when she’s 50. ( I am not a fan of ink on women)

  176. C.L.

    2014:

    Tony Burke’s bizarre request to free notorious Villawood detainee Drichuckuv Nweke.

    A SENIOR member of Bill Shorten’s shadow cabinet has written to the Abbott government on behalf of a woman asking that a convicted Nigerian drug dealer now charged with running an international drug ring from Sydney’s Villawood ­Immigration Detention Centre be released.

    The Daily Telegraph has learned the manager of opposition business Tony Burke, a former immigration minister, wrote to the immigration minister last month on behalf of a constituent who wanted the man, Drichuckuv Nweke, released into community detention for family reasons.

  177. None

    So basically the left have got some snits monitoting7 Milos Facebook account and instead of countering he is so called offensive comments with any reason argument or they could do was run to Mummy. You know if we were ever invaded we’d go down in three minutes thanks to these sniveling cowards. Start teaching your grandkids Chinese folks.

  178. calli

    Thank you Cheryl.

    That was unsuitable for my ears according to the Seven censors.

    May they all rot.

  179. calli

    Oh, and others here for filling me in.

    I wonder how long this forum will remain open.

  180. None

    Milo has every reason to fear alien barbaric religious cultures especially those which throw gay men like him off the roof of buildings or hang them from cranes

  181. Snoopy

    calli
    #2960716, posted on March 16, 2019 at 7:11 pm
    Thank you Cheryl.

    That was unsuitable for my ears according to the Seven censors.

    May they all rot.

    Lying by omission. It’s what the MSM does when they’re not busy lying by commision. In the twenty-first century the truth is subversive.

  182. Boambee John

    Arky at 1537

    A new coalition of parties: conservative, old labour and the more sensible libertarians must unite under
    the flags of soveriegnty and representative governance.
    That is the difference.

    “Sovereignty and Self Determination.” as the political slogan.

    Or “No treaty without a referendum.”

  183. Cassie of Sydney

    Milo banned. I am furious. Will the next Muzzie preacher that preaches….kill J**s be banned? Of course not because threatening J**s is ok. They are effing hypocrites. Scumorrison is worse than the Turd.

    We are NO better than the UK.

    And very soon they will come for us here.

  184. vlad

    It occurs to me that Cardinal Pell may yet be able to say Mass in prison – even with0ut access to materials and permission.

    When he attends Sunday Mass (which will not be denied him) he can concelebrate from the front pew.

  185. Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2960637, posted on March 16, 2019 at 5:41 pm
    Boambee John – I’ve replied to one of his comments. In moderation as I’ve not posted on Don’s blog before. I’ll keep an eye on the thread and see if he is interested in a discussion.

    Thanks Bruce. His interest in discussion is on the level that anyone who does not accept his position completely is labelled a “denialist”. He also denies absolutely that his use of that term is intended to link sceptics with Holocaust deniers.

    However, I am confident that other posters will find your response useful.

  186. vlad

    I saw some flowers left at the NZ Consulate on Friday afternoon.

    Spare us, please.

    In the words of James Joyce, “The sentimentalist is he who would enjoy without incurring the immense debtorship for a thing done.”

  187. Roger

    The murderous piece of shit fits very nicely in the militant eco-nazi wing of the left.

    It is not widely known that the Nazis were the first in Europe to establish nature reserves and enacted progressive legislation for animal protection, while at the same time planning the Final Solution.

    Blut und Boden! is a three word slogan again.

  188. Overburdened

    JC
    Do you not think that a person that has decompensated wouldn’t find another cause to prosecute?
    You were doing alright then used it to push your own barrow.
    Intellectually poor and trivialising of the people affected.

  189. rickw

    “Sovereignty and Self Determination.” as the political slogan.

    Or “No treaty without a referendum.”

    “No Treason.”?

  190. Bruce of Newcastle

    Boambee John – my comment hasn’t made it through yet, and unfortunately I’ve just fried the last remaining USB port on this laptop (the usual way, with acidic flavanoid-laden purple stuff). I won’t chase it up the rest of the evening, I like my mouse too much and it no longer can talk to sulking sodden laptop. The touch pad is still ok but I always find them irritating. Off shop for another one Monday I think.

  191. None

    Mostly men killed at the mosque, one 3 year old boy missing, another 14 year old likely dead. And this is really sad too:

    Bangladeshi woman Husna Ara was with her paraplegic husband at prayers and were segregated as is standard for the sexes in a mosque but she rushed out 15 minutes into the shooting to save her husband Farid. She was killed trying to reach him, other worshippers wheeled him to safety.

    You know all of the bios of the dead suggest they had been in New Zealand 10, 20 even 30 years and yet they insist on referring to them as being from Afghanistan or Pakistan or whatever. So much for Bucky Beaver’s “they are us”. Err no. Until everyone refers to them as New Zealanders they are not.

  192. mh

    Some were willing to give SloMo a fair go, and the Newspoll had the Coalition back to 52 48.

    That has now passed, and every week now Slo-Mo makes things worse. I wonder if it’s too late to change again? 😄

  193. Mark A

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2960735, posted on March 16, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    Boambee John – my comment hasn’t made it through yet, and unfortunately I’ve just fried the last remaining USB port on this laptop (the usual way, with acidic flavanoid-laden purple stuff).

    You mean coke?

    Worse thing that can happen to a computer. If not rinsed off immediately, it’s lethal, Sulfuric acid has nothing on it.

    It’s a mild hand-wash compared to coke.

  194. Makka

    It was like a guy playing one of those violent video games, casually going room to room.

    No different to IS showing beheadings, burnings , and other assorted attrocities. This video just happens to be more available for viewing.

    The vid was just a tool, a communications conduit used to reach as many as possible. The message seems to be that Tarrant was showing the world that he was prepared to walk the Talk.

    The Talk being his manifesto.. Probably linked earlier.

    I’ve read it through. My take is Tarrant wrote it as a call to arms in order to defend his race and homelands of his race from being overrun, becoming minorities ie Europe and the European western nations. Protect them from being “invaded” by moslems. He specifically calls for violent means to counter Govts and elites who push load mass immigration from moslem countries. Tarrant wants an end to multiculturalism , the means by which our heritage is diluted and transformed.

    The abhorrent massacre Tarrant perpetrated and filmed was to bring public focus to Tarrant’s manifesto, it’s content and it’s messages. That being ;there are those in the west who are bringing about the destruction of western civilisation and violent sanction of them is permissible. Because according to Tarrant these people want to bring about the eventual annihilation of the western Christian world.

  195. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Zippy, I clicked. Wish I hadn’t. First time I’ve seen it.
    It was like a guy playing one of those violent video games, casually going room to room.

    reminds me one of my kids 1st shooter games, can’t remember the name. No cops for like 15 mins, by which time he is on his way to the next mosque with music blaring in the car.

    the other 12 mins seems to only be available by torrent. Zuckie has the rest.
    https://kiwifarms.net/public/junk/Christchurch%20Shooting.torrent

  196. none

    rick – that guy wrote his story up at daily signal and also did a podcast with them I put the links up recently.

  197. Snoopy

    I’ve just fried the last remaining USB port on this laptop (the usual way, with acidic flavanoid-laden purple stuff).

    I find drinking wine from a whisky glass reduces such accidents. Stemmed wine glasses have no place near a keyboard.

  198. mizaris

    vicki
    #2960534, posted on March 16, 2019 at 3:13 pm
    His analysis of the predicted birthrate decline of the West v his so called “invader” ethno groups (in particular Islamic) could come straight out of the analyses of Douglas Murray (“The Strange Death of Europe”, Christopher Caldwell (“Reflections on the Revolution in Europe”) & Mark Steyn ( “After America” et al).

    No wonder it has apparently now been taken down from the internet.

    A copy can be obtained from the video corsairs’ cove.

  199. mh

    The closest political movement in Australia to the Nazi Party is the Greens, and they have been for years.

    Even if there is a Nazi party in Australia still today, they still wouldn’t be as close as the Greens.

  200. JC

    That reads like a defensible and explainable apologia of sorts, Trades Hall.

  201. none

    I’m not watching the video. I don’t need to fill my head with such images. Reading about what’s on it’s bad enough.

  202. JC

    mh
    #2960744, posted on March 16, 2019 at 7:42 pm

    The closest political movement in Australia to the Nazi Party is the Greens, and they have been for years.

    The green wing of the nazi movement. Martin Durkin once wrote about it.

    The purpose of exploring Nazi environmentalism is not just to upset the greens. If environmentalism were a curious but peripheral aspect of National Socialism, it would be of no real historical interest. Environmentalists could be forgiven for saying, Ah well, it just goes to show, there’s a little bit of good in the worst of us. But environmentalist ideology was not an accidental, optional-extra to National Socialism. As we shall see, green ideas were at the core of Nazi thinking. The German Volk and Nazi movements marched beneath the banners of ‘Nature’ and the ‘organic’. However, what follows here is not simply a potted history of Nazi environmentalism. It is, at the same time, a brief history of early environmentalism writ large. As will become clear, it is not so easy to draw a line between two types of green thinking.
    To understand why green ideology emerged at all, and why it happened in Germany, we need to go back in time, a few centuries, to set the scene. We have described elsewhere on this blog (The Greens: A Warning from History), the transition from feudal society to capitalism. To the greens this great historical change is more or less the source of all evil. In Germany, it was a process which began, falteringly, in the 13th Century.

    It was a bureaucratic, administrative class which identified with its feudal masters and, as Weber describes brilliantly, embraced the notion of a society based on status rather than free market forces. A class, as we have seen from Hegel, which would try to portray itself as selfless, and stuffed with higher purpose, but which of course had (and has) a very clearly defined self-interest, and world-view to match. And here, in passing, let us underline a point which should be more than obvious. The modern State did not arise in or order to ‘curb the cruelties’ of capitalism. Far from it. It arose specifically to preserve the privileges of the existing ruling classes against the democratic, liberating, enriching and levelling forces of capitalism.

    This feudal anti-capitalist reaction, this anti-capitalism of the upper classes, this anti-capitalism from above, was not a phenomenon limited to Germany. It happened all over Europe and beyond. (We even see echoes of it in the American Civil War, in the politics of the reactionary South.) Even England, the pioneer of capitalism, produced reactionary anti-capitalists like Thomas More, Thomas Malthus and others. But in England, such men were outsiders. In thrusting capitalistic, liberal England, the embittered grumbling of men like Malthus could not compete with the enlightened, thrilling, progressive ideas of men like Adam Smith and David Ricardo.

  203. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Tony Burke’s bizarre request to free notorious Villawood detainee Drichuckuv Nweke.

    Every vote counts.

  204. JC

    Overburdened
    #2960733, posted on March 16, 2019 at 7:30 pm

    JC
    Do you not think that a person that has decompensated wouldn’t find another cause to prosecute?
    You were doing alright then used it to push your own barrow.
    Intellectually poor and trivialising of the people affected.

    Explain. What are you talking about?

  205. Confused Old Misfit

    Dropped the Scotese link and the links to two more of his papers into the thread at donaitkin.com.
    Interesting to see that shifting of goal posts is not confined to the trolls at the cat.

  206. egg_

    Tony Burke’s bizarre request to free notorious Villawood detainee Drichuckuv Nweke.

    Every vote counts.

    Multi(culti)plied.

  207. none

    People: Peter Costello was talking about our demographic challenges years ago which is why he was trying to talk up our fertility rate and he managed to succeed for a little while. This is also behind some of his pension superannuation and welfare reforms
    All Western countries have got this problem and that’s why action should have been taken 20-30 years ago. Not just to encourage people to form families and have kids but also to have people retire later given that we are now living longer and to also manage their health better etc etc. The last government that took such a long view of things was Howard and Costello and to his credit it was mostly Costello. Someone like Merkel however, whose country is really going to feel the crunch within the next decade has been the first Chancellor of any persuasion in Germany who has implemented precisely zero reforms and her answer to the demographic crisis is to just throw the doors open in the belief that 1 million angry Muslim male Africans are going to wipe aging German arse. They are not.

  208. Makka

    Read it as you like, numpty. I doubt you have read the manifesto so as usual you are commenting from your significant ignorance. An apologia that describes Tarrant’s act as abhorrent? Very lame.

  209. Roger

    Because according to Tarrant these people want to bring about the eventual annihilation of the western Christian world.

    We’ve done a good enough job of that ourselves without outside help.

  210. Black Ball

    Grand final bowls winners Armadillo. Up yours!

  211. JC

    Makka
    #2960754, posted on March 16, 2019 at 7:50 pm

    Read it as you like, numpty. I doubt you have read the manifesto so as usual you are commenting from your significant ignorance. An apologia that describes Tarrant’s act as abhorrent? Very lame.

    No thanks. There’s nothing to learn from a debased evil piece of shit who killed 50 people. Zero.

  212. Makka

    There’s nothing to learn from a debased evil piece of shit who killed 50 people.

    Every western Intel Agency disagrees with you on that point. So I’m not surprised you are wrong again.

    Besides, you are probably confusing learning with understanding.

  213. Boambee John:

    “Sovereignty and Self Determination.” as the political slogan.

    Or “No treaty without a referendum.”

    I think “No Treaties Without a Referendum” would be much more betterer. Our governments have given away our sovereignty without any benefit to the nation, just so they can strut their egos at the right cocktail parties.
    Scum.

  214. JC

    Every western Intel Agency disagrees with you on that point.

    Lol. And that’s supposed to be a bad thing? They are almost as useless as you are in their field as you are in economic matters. STFU.

  215. jupes

    Tarrant wants an end to multiculturalism , the means by which our heritage is diluted and transformed.

    So do I. He is correct on this point, however much of his manifesto is a call to violence for no logical reason. For example he wants a race war in the US which was also the aim of another left wing nutter – Charles Manson.

  216. DrBeauGan

    I must have died without noticing and gone to Bunbury. It’s halfway between heaven and as I imagine them. It took me three hours to get here, much of the time spent, inadvertently, in Rockingham. It took another half hour to find a hotel owing to a slight misunderstanding as to what the word hotel means. But my only remaining task is to get my car into the carpark, made difficult by the council closing one of the streets.

    I realise this is lacking in dramatic values and very dull, but if Lizzie can tell us about dancing classes and her cat, I can damn well tell you about Bunbury.

  217. Makka

    They are almost as useless as you are in their field as you are in economic matters.

    Tell us again how you divine your economic and share insights by deep analysis of the relative costs of hamburgers? Lol.

  218. dover_beach

    Is this Milo ban permanent?

  219. Snoopy:

    I’ve just fried the last remaining USB port on this laptop (the usual way, with acidic flavanoid-laden purple stuff).

    I find drinking wine from a whisky glass reduces such accidents. Stemmed wine glasses have no place near a keyboard.

    Poseur.
    What’s wrong with a straw in the bottle?

  220. Leigh Lowe

    ABC reporting on Tarrant.
    Lots of hand-wringing about racist Australia, and a report from Grafton about the shame he had brought on the town.
    Woe are us.
    How could this be?
    What is wrong with us (i.e. you)?
    Then follows a report on Neil Prakash copping seven years in Turkey on terrorism charges. All very banal and vanilla flavoured. Dates, charges, details of sentencing and a piece by his lawyer about how misunderstood Neil is.
    No introspection about what put Neil on the wrong track. No vox-pop on the streets of Dandenong about the shame and scandal he has brought down on their heads.

  221. Knuckle Dragger

    Late to the show today. Interesting discussions.

    JC et al,

    I’m nonplussed as well as to why the shooter wasn’t fully ventilated whilst still in his car after being rammed off the road (Vicpol take note). The big mass shooters suddenly seem to develop a sense of self-preservation after playing whack-a-mole with the unarmed.

    Julian Knight was finally cornered at the end of a residential driveway after the 1987 Hoddle Street massacre. Confronted by the Fitzroy van crew, he threw his rifle away and pleaded not to be shot. No witnesses, dark, and no reason not to have filled him full of lead there and then.

    Martin Bryant walked out of the burning cottage in Tasmania on fire, and into the waiting arms of the Victorian SOG who had been flown over the Strait. An impeccable source says they knocked Bryant over and watched him burn, and it was only the arrival of a news chopper that sparked them into some attempt to keep him alive.

    And the Norwegian bloke. Etc etc.

    Cowards all. Summary justice has a place, whether it’s filmed or not.

  222. JC

    Tell us again how you divine your economic and share insights by deep analysis of the relative costs of hamburgers? Lol.

    I have.. many times, it’s a good marker for PPP, you sad fuck.

    “Tell us again” how legislated high wages set above the clearing rate promote eternal prosperity, you trades hall lunatic.

  223. DrBeauGan

    I have found a very attractive blonde from Brazil. It’s a damned nuisance being on a diet or I could have asked her out to dinner.

  224. MatrixTransform

    If I did get an ID, it would go straight to plod.

    you’re full of shit.
    and people here know it.

    If there was a case to answer or a lead to follow, it would be done. already you liar.

    you create spectres and call them real and then expect everybody else should give a shit about the noise in yr head.

    a blight

  225. Makka

    “Tell us again” how legislated high wages set above the clearing rate promote eternal prosperity, you trades hall lunatic.

    I will numpty. I promise. Just as long as you can produce a link where I have ever proposed or promoted anything like that. Go on, show us all you aren’t a fking liar. Just once.

  226. Knuckle Dragger

    Perjury.

    Rambler/None,

    I posted last night on that subject.

  227. Bruce in WA

    It took me three hours to get here, much of the time spent, inadvertently, in Rockingham Methingham.

    I fixes it for you.

  228. Nick

    No introspection about what put Neil on the wrong track. No vox-pop on the streets of Dandenong about the shame and scandal he has brought down on their heads.

    Bingo. A decent journalist would be making such comparisons.

  229. Overburdened

    JC
    I may be wrong.
    What you did is another manifestation of the identity/ race/ religion politics that has infested the discourse.
    I remember and contributed to the approbium for pos tonybourke as recently as yesterday for doing the same thing of reducing the event to an opportunity to push his barrow.

    It is a sad time when the individual misfortune of others is irrelevant to the debate, demonstrated by how the shouters of all stripes have swarmed to use the event as the next opportunity to have a swing.
    IMO people should have enough courtesy and respect to separate their hobbies or passions from reflections on sentinel events.
    Naturally this should not be expected from politicians, given that they are cynical fucks.
    At least you initially expressed some human interest, even if it only was to traduce the offender.

    In my experience people such as the offender are like water looking for a vessel, and they will take the shape of the vessel.
    If it wasn’t this situation it would have been something else.

  230. JC

    Is the Big mac is good marker for PPP? It seems to be.

    Summary and ConclusionThe literature on PPP has been growing rapidly over the past three decades. Aprominent recent strand of this research tests for PPP by examining the time-seriesproperties of the real exchange rate with the nominal rate deflated by price indexes basedon a broad set of goods, such as the CPI, WPI, or GDP deflators. In this paper, we use realexchange rates in terms of a single good — a McDonalds’ Big Mac hamburger — to test forPPP. We employ recently-developed panel unit root tests to control for cross-sectionaldependence among exchange rates. As the time span of the Big Mac data is relativelyshort (1989-1998), we face an undersized sample problem. To overcome this problem,some structure is placed on the disturbance covariance matrix. We constrain the speed-of-adjustment parameter in real exchange rate equations to be the same across countries inthe SUR setting and a Monte Carlo procedure indicates that this assumption is not rejectedby the data. A simple iterative procedure is introduced to adjust for bias and correctstandard errors of GLS estimates and it seems to work satisfactorily. We then carry out amultivariate unit root test and considerable evidence is found that real exchange ratesexhibit mean reversion, so that the impacts of shocks die out over time. In comparisonwith much of the previous literature, we also find a faster speed of adjustment toward PPP,i.e., a half-life of 1.1-1.4 years.As real exchange rates are stationary, they converge to equilibrium values in thelong run. We clarify the theoretical concept of the equilibrium exchange rate and thenapply it to the 16 Big Mac currencies. We analyse the whole distribution of the estimatedequilibrium exchange rates and derive the future time paths of the actual exchange ratesadjusting to their equilibrium values through Monte Carlo methods. A comparison of ourestimated equilibrium exchange rates with those of others reveals that they are quite closeto those derived from more complex methodologies, which further enhances the appeal ofthe Big Mac approach.
    35Overall, there are several attractions of our approach to estimating equilibriumexchange rates: (1) It only requires the Big Mac prices and nominal exchange rates, bothreadily available, as input; (2) the economic structure placed on the problem is simple, viz.,each real exchange rate has some well-defined long-run equilibrium value; and (3) the implementation of the approach is relatively easy. The results of this paper lead to the conclusion that the Big Mac approach provides a convenient and valuable way of testing for PPP and estimating equilibrium exchange rates

  231. C.L.

    Zippy, do you mind not posting kill porn on the site, please?
    Take it somewhere else.

  232. Bruce in WA

    Blonde? From Brazil?

    For God’s sake, Doc, double check!!

  233. Knuckle Dragger

    Monty’s view on how he gets to run things in his world:

    Snipe.
    Snipe.
    Snipe.
    Snipe.
    Snipe.
    Snip.
    Snipe.
    Snipe.
    Snipe.
    Snipe.

    Return snipe.

    “Ohhhhhhh NOOOOOOO, it’s so terrible you nasty people! Whatever will I do? And this, on the eve of my holiest day of all – that start of the fantasy football season!!!!!
    “Waaaaaahhhhhhhhhh…………………..”

  234. JC

    What you did is another manifestation of the identity/ race/ religion politics that has infested the discourse.

    Can you explain what I said, as I really don’t understand the point. Still What did I say?

  235. Makka

    The Big Mac Index;

    Big Mac Index in Practice
    For example, if the price of a Big Mac is $4.00 in the U.S. as compared to £2.5 in Britain, we would expect that the exchange rate would be 1.60 (4 ÷ 2.5 = 1.60). If the exchange rate of dollars to pounds is any greater, the Big Mac Index would state that the pound was overvalued; any lower and it would be undervalued.

    The index is imperfect at best. First, the Big Mac’s price is decided by the McDonald’s Corp. (MCD) and can greatly affect the Big Mac index. Also, the Big Mac differs across the world in size, ingredients and availability. That being said, the index is meant to be light-hearted. It’s used by many schools and universities to teach students about PPP. (To learn more, read “Hamburger Economics: The Big Mac Index.”)

    In practical terms, worthless. But good for kids. Back to school for you , minor Finance major.

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