Monday Forum: March 18, 2019

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  1. struth

    Utrecht so far: -Shooting incident on tram -Reason and motive unknown -Terrorism not ruled out -6 people injured, 1 killed -Area cordoned off

    This is the Islamic version of #I’llridewithyou

  2. Canterbury Caliphates?
    Canterbury Cucks?
    Canterbury Cowards?

    Canterbury Clitoris Cutters

  3. max

    Cops didn’t arrive until 36 minutes had gone by. Reports of other shooters caught in footage, one of whom was shot dead. Plenty of time to get away. Use of primitive IEDs. North Korea, Pakistan, Turkey visited. Now all footage on the internet censored. Hmmmm.

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Canterbury Clitoris Cutters

    Canterbury Craven Appeasers?

  5. KD,
    The whole 50/50 ratio for police is something that I have commented upon here many times.

    It has been driven by women such as Elizabeth Broderick and other Sex Discrimination Commissioners etc who treat the military and police as places to promote equal opportunity for jobs. The ADF and Police leadership have actively followed such recommendations. However in the police the high proportion of women is going to have very serious long time effects on efficiency. Not to mention the fact that women obviously have more “down time” to have maternity leave and raise family etc. I was told by a senior Sgt that if two promotion candidates have 10 years service but the woman had two years away they can not give extra credit to the male’s extra two years on the job.

    I have read the full Broderick report into the AFP and it was all about making things easier for women but in reality it is often at the expense of the men. Not so much about operational requirements or efficiency.

    I once asked a Qld police officer about why the Commissioner goes along with it (50/50). He quite rightly pointed out there a job opportunities that follow being Commissioner and they don’t want to jeopardise sitting on future inquiries, panels or boards etc.

    I am surprised the press are not picking up more stories about what is going on as it is causing major morale problems for the male police and those trying to join.

  6. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    They have closed the schools so we can rule probably out an Eco-fascist, its leaning towards a garden variety lone-wolf.

  7. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Bots on twitter are trying to create fake news that mosques have been evacuated.

  8. Fat Tony

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2963221, posted on March 18, 2019 at 10:42 pm
    They have closed the schools so we can rule probably out an Eco-fascist, its leaning towards a garden variety lone-wolf.

    Aren’t there a few lone wolves? Or does this go down the forgettory?

  9. Fat Tony

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2963223, posted on March 18, 2019 at 10:47 pm
    Bots on twitter are trying to create fake news that mosques have been evacuated.

    Probably have – to go join the shooting

  10. None

    Any significance to 24th of October apart from the day the UN opened

  11. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It’s going to get confusing now, we are so conditioned to terror attack meaning jihad. Maybe they should colour code them, red for jihad, green for eco-facsists, white for far right nationalists, black for false flag.

  12. Overburdened

    Cool.
    With the event in Holland, the banter will continue.
    It will be interesting depending on who’s done what.

  13. Knuckle Dragger

    BrettW,

    It’s the little things that count.

    Scenario: Waaaay back in 1996, the Vicpol Academy had, as part of its obstacle course a log, about eighteen inches wide. Said log was suspended about five foot high horizontally. You had to get over the log.

    99% of male recruits: Jog up to log, place one hand on log (five foot high, remember), swing yourself over log. Continue.

    99% of female recruits: Jog up to log, put both arms around log and hang off it Private Pyle style in Full Metal Jacket, fall off log, claim sprained ankle, dispensation given from attempting this mighty, Herculean challenge for a further four weeks.

    Management solution: Remove log. Make public statement as to how standards have not changed.

    Male recruits laugh at female recruits. Discrimination/bullying complaints ensue.

  14. None

    An eyewitness has said that a man ‘with a big gun’ began firing inside the tram.

    The woman, who has not been named, told NRC: “He shot around, but seemed to be aiming at people sitting on the benches – everyone ducked away.

    “The conductor did not open the doors immediately. Two boys next to me kicked in a window, so I fled outside.”

  15. max

    New Zealand authorities have reminded citizens that they face up to 10 years in prison for “knowingly” possessing a copy of the New Zealand mosque shooting video – and up to 14 years in prison for sharing it. Corporations (such as web hosts) face an additional $200,000 ($137,000 US) fine under the same law.

    This is insidious.

  16. Max,
    Where did you get the info about the bad guy shot dead ? In this day and age with mobile phones it would be very difficult to cover up the existence of a dead shooter. I know from my cop mate there were many reports of other shooters made by the public but what they were seeing were actually the SAS guys who were dressed out of the ordinary as they had rushed there from training.

  17. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Not to mention the fact that women obviously have more “down time” to have maternity leave and raise family

    In an A.D.F. situation, I’d cite you one Jackie Lambie. Two pregnancies in ten years service – how long she spent on maternity leave and light duties, I don’t know. I’m remembering the A.D.F unit, where four female members went on maternity leave almost simultaneously, and the rest were advised “There’s nobody being posted in, the rest of you will just have to cover for them.”

  18. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Socrates at the Pub at 7:18 pm:

    “The RoP hasn’t had it all going their way;
    The Al-Noor Mosque in Christchurch had to suffer a Maori cleansing ceremony.

    There may be a message in there for the RoP about their chances of getting to the top of NZ’s victim totem pole…. and a supplementary message that while they’ve got whitey to submit, they’ve just been given a message about what will happen if they stray beyond whitey & accidentally disrespect NZ’s other ethnicity.”

    The mosque has been there for a while and I assume the pecking order has been more or less settled over the years, with the cunning swarthy ones encouraging new devotees to the cult, agreeing to not compete in certain business enterprises, such as car re-birthing and the like.

    The Maori and a fair complement of Samoans in Christchurch would not hesitate to act unilaterally if the greasers offend them – they are not much attracted to sitting around taking tea and biscuits with elders, as the coppers do, pretending the older death cultists have an interest in curbing the excesses of their primitive young.

    What a delicious prospect – I had not given this any thought.

  19. cohenite

    Meanwhile, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said Senator Anning could face racial vilification charges, as well as assault charges for hitting a 17-year-old protester on Saturday.

    “In relation to the Victorian investigation, that will be in relation to the incident with Senator Anning and the young man, so that’s separate,” he told ABC radio.

    Another gutless faux conservative.

  20. mh

    The media had no issues with 2000 plus muslims dying in Australia’s northern waters. Officially 1200 bodies recovered, estimates are there were twice that number of lives lost.

    The media wanted to keep the people-smuggling operations going no matter how many deaths at sea. Women, children, they just didn’t care.

    Message to MSM – spare us the tears you fvcking hypocrites.

  21. stackja

    Vic judge threatened USA over court ban. Now video ban world wide?

  22. twostix

    New Zealand authorities have reminded citizens that they face up to 10 years in prison for “knowingly” possessing a copy of the New Zealand mosque shooting video – and up to 14 years in prison for sharing it. Corporations (such as web hosts) face an additional $200,000 ($137,000 US) fine under the same law.

    Lunacy.

  23. KD,
    All the police services and military try to maintain the illusion that they have not changed any previous requirements.

    Luckily not so far forward for the firies but trying to do the same there.

  24. twostix

    Meanwhile, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said Senator Anning could face racial vilification charges, as well as assault charges for hitting a 17-year-old protester on Saturday.

    They’re going to cut him off before the election. They know he’ll gain a large enough following to become a mainstay after this.

    So now we get to see Australian “democracy” in action: where potential threats to the big two are sent to court by Liberal politicians and sentenced by Labor judges.

  25. feelthebern

    Arguably, any attacks by Muslims in the past, present or future are now justified because of Christchurch.

  26. mh

    New Zealand authorities have reminded citizens that they face up to 10 years in prison for “knowingly” possessing a copy of the New Zealand mosque shooting video – and up to 14 years in prison for sharing it. Corporations (such as web hosts) face an additional $200,000 ($137,000 US) fine under the same law.

    That’s a red alert 🚨 for a cover up. There is information on that video authorities don’t want discovered.

    As Pauline once said – I want to know what’s going on.

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Meanwhile, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said Senator Anning could face racial vilification charges, as well as assault charges for hitting a 17-year-old protester on Saturday.

    Senator Anning, if you want to start a GoFundMe, to defray any legal costs, I’m in. That fvcking little snowflake should have his his ae$hole pulled so far over his ears, that he looked like a tired monk at midnight.

  28. The Federal Govt can’t get VICPOL to take action against Union thugs but now the Home Minister implying can take action against a Senator.

    If Anning can face racial vilification charges for saying what many others say and think then there will be thousands rounded up. Quick lets set up a hotline where people can dob in to.

  29. Overburdened

    Ffs now afl bloke Bachar Houli has a gig to give his take on the terror from a particular perspective.
    Everyone’s getting a guernsey.

  30. None

    Katie Hopkins

    @KTHopkins

    The leader of Turkey is showing the Christchurch mosque massacre as his election campaign video. Meanwhile Merkel invites him to build & open a mega mosque in the heart of Europe.

  31. Infidel Tiger

    Meanwhile, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said Senator Anning could face racial vilification charges, as well as assault charges for hitting a 17-year-old protester on Saturday.

    What race?

  32. mh

    The Soros-funded GetUp are making sure Peter Dutton loses his seat.

    That appears as no great loss now. Bye Peter 👋

  33. Tony Jones on Q&A was desperate for Linda Reynolds to comment on something Waleed apparently said about what Morrison may have said about asylum seekers when in opposition. So Jones trying to score political points against PM out of Christchurch.

    Seems Morrison has replaced Abbot Abbot Abbot derangement syndrome.

  34. DrBeauGan

    Why should I respect anyone’s religious mores?

    If the pope wants an audience with me, I should probably grant it. And he can wear whatever he likes as long as he’s decent.

  35. max

    BrettW, yes have heard about the SAS guys which might explain it, but the reports of the fatality came from here though you can’t view the film:

    http://archive.is/D6ykl

    https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1106412621023100929

  36. None

    Dutton is a fuk wit I expected better from him. Short r
    got out of this with a free pass by calling the kids prank stupid and highlighting the thugs who pounced on him without actually addressing anything that Fraser Anning said. Very clever. Teflon.

  37. Meanwhile, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said Senator Anning could face racial vilification charges, as well as assault charges for hitting a 17-year-old protester on Saturday.

    This is a bridge too far.
    The whole thing was captured live, in real time, on more videocams than you can count.
    Anning was king hit, he slapped back.
    If he’s charged, it is time to throw the rulebook out.

  38. DrBeauGan

    I’ve been on a tour of the wineries in Margaret River this arvo. It was good. I avoided the chocolate factory because I had already blown my diet.

  39. Well, that settles whether Dutton was the best PM we never had.

  40. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’ve been on a tour of the wineries in Margaret River this arvo. It was good. I avoided the chocolate factory because I had already blown my diet.

    I’ve spent the odd Easter in Margaret River – which wineries did you go to?

  41. None

    Unfortunately Victoria has race vilification laws that include religion. It really is VictoriaStan.

    Something for Tinta if you’re still around tonight. A sibling offspring rang a little earlier and in the chit chat told me he’d been listening to Jordan Peterson podcasts, had I heard of him what did I think. All the years I have spent corrupting my siblingz’ kids are starting to pay off. From blue-eyed greenie to clear eyed freedom breathing capitalist. I wanted to hug him but I didn’t tell him that.

  42. mh

    Ffs now afl bloke Bachar Houli has a gig to give his take on the terror from a particular perspective.
    Everyone’s getting a guernsey.

    I heard Sonny Bill Williams carrying on yesterday about doing his “dawahs”, and seeing the Christchurch victims in paradise.

    Maybe he’s moved on from throwing one up celebrity female athletes in public toilets while being filmed.

  43. Peter Castieau

    I just saw this…

    By TOBY STERLING AND ANTHONY DEUTSCH
    REUTERS
    9 MINUTES AGO MARCH 18, 2019
    Several people were shot on Monday in a tram in the central Dutch city of Utrecht, in an incident police say may have had a “terrorist motive”.

    Police said the suspected gunman was at large and authorities raised the terrorism threat to its highest level in Utrecht province on Monday.

    “Several shots were fired in a tram and several people were injured. Helicopters are at the scene and no arrests have been made,” said police spokesman Joost Lanshage.

    Local broadcaster RTV Utrecht quoted a witness as saying he had seen a woman lying on the ground amid some kind of confrontation and several men ran away from the scene.

    Schools were told to shut their doors and paramilitary police increased security at airports and other vital infrastructure. Security was stepped up at mosques.

    The shooting “appears to be a terrorist attack”, Dutch broadcaster NOS quoted the head of the country’s counter-terrorism agency, Pieter-Jaap Aalbersberg, as saying.

    Prime Minister Mark Rutte said he was deeply concerned about the incident and convened crisis talks.

    The incident comes after a lone gunman killed 50 people in mass shootings at two mosques in the city of Christchurch, New Zealand, last Friday.

    Utrecht, the Netherlands’ fourth largest city, is known for its picturesque canals and large student population. Gun killings are rare in Utrecht, and elsewhere in the Netherlands.

  44. max

    That’s a red alert 🚨 for a cover up. There is information on that video authorities don’t want discovered.

    Yep. Police are stationed within a couple of blocks. Took 36 mins to get there. Passing strange.

  45. struth

    Meanwhile, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said Senator Anning could face racial vilification charges, as well as assault charges for hitting a 17-year-old protester on Saturday.

    That blonde just got off from her charges, as Islam is not a race (precedent court case) and Anning got hit from behind, you know the “one punch can kill” situation.
    He would have only known he was being attacked from behind.

    But remember the tactics your favourite fella the gutless Abbott, pulled on Pauline.

    Anning should be going nowhere.
    But after Pell, they just may be feeling lucky enough to try it on.
    The left are feeling very close to winning now, and will stop at nothing.

    The fight we never needed to have, caused by our own lethargy in allowing evil to grow in our schools and our institutions, will now be, I believe quite bloody as we head toward Venestralia.

  46. Dave in Marybrook

    We want names, Dr BG.
    For my anonymous ego’s sake.
    And for vintage updates. It’s woeful down there.

  47. C.L.

    Attempts now afoot to Pell a senator for speaking truthfully about Muslims and their ceaseless homicides throughout the world prove irrefutably his key point: bringing them to this country was a vast mistake that represents a continuing danger to the lives and liberties of Australians. The Liberal Party is now responsible for jailing Pauline Hanson, attempting to jail Andrew Bolt and Bill Leak and it now wants to jail Fraser Anning.

    I’ve seen some tortured casuistry and phony moralising in my decades of observing Australian politics; but nothing compares to the utterly bizarre emotional breakdown of the past few days. Scott Morrison hugging any brown person within camera range (I’d be surprised if he didn’t accidentally pash Ernie Dingo at some stage in the past 72 hours), troubled Greg Sheridan announcing that Australia has converted to Islam and now Peter Dutton declaring Muslims a distinct genetic race.

    All of this because Australian right-wingers are afraid of Tony Jones and Waleed Aly.

  48. Fat Tony

    Dave in Marybrook
    #2963271, posted on March 18, 2019 at 11:32 pm
    We want names, Dr BG.
    For my anonymous ego’s sake.
    And for vintage updates. It’s woeful down there.

    And a video – or it didn’t happen…

  49. Knuckle Dragger

    It says much that Sonny Bill Williams embraced the RoP after one of the world’s biggest sports cheats, David Warner filled the breach, so to say.

    At least Warner was delicate enough to have his phone off during the courting process.

  50. ArthurB

    Out of a sense of duty I decided to watch Teh Dumb tonight.

    Panellists: five Moozley females, four wearing head scarves. All leftist (no surprises there). Ellen Fanning opened the proceedings and there was stiff competition among the ladies as to who could be most uncomplimentary towards Australia. One lady said that Australia was founded on violence, racism and dispossession, which continues to this day, she asked why Aborigines had not yet been given sovereignty over their own land. Muslim women were subjected to violence when they ventured out of their homes. Morrison, Howard, Dutton, Hanson, Anning etc were all dog-whistling racists. The Cronulla riots were started by white racist youths (nothing to do with Muslim youths who harassed Kuffar women on the beach). Australians are not genuine about multiculturalism, and remain racists and white supremacists. The Liberals would prefer to import South African farmers, instead of honest Middle Eastern country-shoppers.

    And so it went on, with the presenter agreeing with everything the ladies said. I eventually switched off in disgust.

    The staff of Their ABC deserve to be prosecuted for treason.

  51. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘blown my diet’

    Is that code for something BG?

  52. Fat Tony

    ArthurB
    #2963276, posted on March 18, 2019 at 11:36 pm

    If they all think how terrible Australia is, why don’t they just fuck off back to their various Shitholistans???

  53. struth

    You know, how many Muslim lives may have been saved if they were armed?

    People like numbers grieve and wail for the dead, while never allowing then to defend themselves while they were alive.

    It might surprise you to know SNIFFY Mc DUBULSTANDARD, but I believe if those Muslims were armed, those children might be alive now, and if the shooter knew they were most likely armed, he probably would not have attempted the attack at all.
    I believe this for all citizens.
    Those now attacked on the tram, may not be lying in pools of blood due to virtue signalling anti self defence laws of the left.

  54. None

    I agree Fat Tony whenever I hear these people carry on I say why the fuk did you pay tens of thousands of dollars to Smugglers to get you here and all why the fuk are you still here. No-one calls their Bluff Knoll encounters at f****** false narrative.

  55. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Those now attacked on the tram, may not be lying in pools of blood due to virtue signalling anti self defence laws of the left.

    I’m struggling with this – the Dutch cops are armed, and they don’t usually fvck around. Something smells, here.

  56. Oh come on

    The idiocracy is here:

    Stress Mess: 3 In 5 Millennials Say Life More Stressful Now Than Ever Before

    From slow WiFi to broken phone screens to zero “likes” on social media, everyday stressors are causing young adults to have struggles falling asleep 138 nights each year, researchers say.

    Spawn of Boomers, indeed. Luckily the youngest generation is refreshingly un-PC and doesn’t give a crap about stupid Millennial concerns. Recently, I encountered a bunch of year 7s at a high school in a rough neighbourhood. They were using the PC lexicon fluently. And they were mocking it; co-opting it to take the piss out of each other. This heartened me greatly.

    (Link via Drudge)

  57. mh

    I’m surprised the ABC haven’t got David Hicks on their panel shows yet.

  58. twostix

    Australians are not genuine about multiculturalism, and remain racists and white supremacists. The Liberals would prefer to import South African farmers, instead of honest Middle Eastern country-shoppers.

    Welcome to Australia!

  59. ArthurB

    Tony: I wish they would, but I don’t think they would ever do so, why return to your native shithole when you can enjoy the privileges (and the welfare) of a First World society, with no pressure to assimilate, or even co-exist.

    I have a question: why did the West suddenly decide to import millions of people from Third World shitholes? Some websites I read think it’s all a conspiracy, I am beginning to believe that there is something sinister behind it.

  60. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m surprised the ABC haven’t got David Hicks on their panel shows yet.

    Leigh Sales wrote a book “Detainee 002″bout how hard done by, David Hicks was.

  61. Oh come on

    “He’s transitioning! Hahahaha”

    Yes. This is how we destroy the PC Goliath. With humour and mockery.

  62. Snoopy

    If they all think how terrible Australia is, why don’t they just fuck off back to their various Shitholistans???

    They intend to change it.

  63. None

    The only thing I can think of here C.L.is that the Livs have got some sort of internal poling saying that Fraser Anning is on the nose in certain marginal seats that they need to win hence this narrative. I posted a link above to Sharri Markson filing in for Credit ( all feeling in for Kremlin as my phone wants to write) talking about some leejed internal Lib polling which suggest not just a bloodbath but also a possibility of flipping some marginal seats which may offset the losses and get Morrison over the line. Sad fact Warringah is among the losses. If my theory is right the lips are just going to play to The Wishy Washy undecided in the marginals and ignore the rest of the country until the election. It’s sort of the same strategy that David Cameron ran under text 2 Crosby in the election which he won and caught everyone by surprise except this time Sharri Markson has belled the cat.

  64. JC

    It’s pretty much evident to me that punterland has moved back to being hysterical about gerbil warming. Abbott had the punters’ attention that a load of this is a crock of shit, but he never moved it forward and when he lost to Turnbull it went back to hysteria.

    Basically, we’re fucked.

  65. struth

    I have a question: why did the West suddenly decide to import millions of people from Third World shitholes? Some websites I read think it’s all a conspiracy, I am beginning to believe that there is something sinister behind it.

    Look up the UN.
    It’s no conspiracy theory, they have it all up there for you to see.
    The head of the UN is a global Socialist by the name of Antonio Gutturres who is an out and proud global socialist (head of Socialists International) and was in charge of UN immigration before becoming the Sec Gen.
    So with all the corrupt third world shit holes in the UN and concerted and assorted socialists and commos, it’s just a United Organisation to bring down the west.
    This is why you always hear about the 2030.
    They have many official agendas going that all culminate in the magical year 2030.
    Basically that’s the year this all has to be achieved by, and global socialist centralised governance will take control.

    Sounds like a load of bullshit, but it’s all there for you to read, you’ve just got to go look for it, and it’s not hard, they’re not hiding it, they just know the world’s media aren’t going to advertise it, and just as many will be happy reading it as those who will be alarmed.

  66. mh

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    @realDonaldTrump
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    More wall, Mr President.

  67. C.L.

    Abbott had the punters’ attention that a load of this is a crock of shit, but he never moved it forward and when he lost to Turnbull it went back to hysteria.

    Same with the 18c issue. Abbott was on the verge of pushing back against that but then surrendered.
    He just couldn’t take any more meanness from Emma Alberici.

  68. Snoopy

    Basically, we’re fucked.

    Baseload power stations can be built relatively quickly once the decision is made to do so. Yes, we are likely fucked, but climate change madness is not the reason.

  69. struth

    ZULU…………………….the story could not be more shut down any quicker than it has been.
    That tram attack was big news that died out that fast, if it wasn’t such a serious subject, you’d laugh your tits off.

  70. ArthurB

    Struth: I agree with you. In recent times the globalists have become more open in what they are doing, a good example is Brexit, where the goons of the EEC are collaborating with the traitors within the British political parties to scupper the wishes of the British people, who voted to leave Europe. In the USA, Trump is merely an annoying speed bump, he might win again in 2020 but at the rate at which the US is importing Latin Americans and people from the Third World, there will never be another Republican president, and the Democrats can rule permanently. I have read some excellent articles, by Victor Davis Hansen and others, that California is a foretaste of the future, there are so many Latin Americans there, that the Democrats win all the elections, and California is, in effect, a one party state. The rich can cope with it, they live in their gated communities, and can afford the extra costs of California’s green policies, while the rest of the population lives in squalor and poverty.

    It can, and is likely to, happen to this country. Even if, by some miracle, the Libs scrape back in, Labor will eventually win an election, and make sure that there will never be another non-Labor government.

  71. mh

    I see BigTech has shut down Blair Cottrell for rule violations, so here is a blast from the past:

    ‘You can’t wear that in front of kids, mate’: Confronting moment leader of far-right group attacks a street performer for wearing a pink mankini in Melbourne

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5881167/Leader-far-right-group-confronts-Melbourne-street-performer-wearing-pink-mankini.html

  72. None

    Abbott relented on a 18c apparently because of some ethnic Coalition and it is actually that same ethnic Coalition headed up by that J–ish guy and in cahoots with the gay lobby that has now criminalized speech in New South Wales under a f****** Liberal government. Now Daley is a total fukwit and he’s just making front pages for telling people that Asians are taking over Australians jobs but you know what: nothing could be worse than Gladys’s government. If a Liberal government criminalises speech it does not deserve to ever see the light of day again. Ever. So while I may still have a shred of Sympathy for a handful of Liberals I want the whole f****** party destroyed.

  73. Knuckle Dragger

    Tropical Cyclone Kevin set to hit FNQ tomorrow as a Cat 3.

    Eco-fascists, where are you?

    Which brings me to…….

  74. Knuckle Dragger

    A grasshopper walks into a bar.

    Hops up onto a barstool and orders a Scotch and water from the barman.

    While making the Scotch, the barman says to the grasshopper, ‘You know, we’ve got a drink named after you.’

    The grasshopper says, ‘What? You’ve got a drink named Kevin?’

    I’m here all week……………….

  75. None

    Who is more likely to shoot up a tram in Utrecht. An islamist or a white supremacist or somebody else (assuming that it is a terrorist attack).

  76. HP

    Utrecht Shooting update:
    Dutch police now looking for 37 years old Gökman Tanis, born in Turkey in relation to the shooting in Utrecht.
    https://twitter.com/PolitieUtrecht/status/1107632105780113408

    Dutch elections are 20/3, so in a day or 2, by the way. So I am expecting the Dutch media to lose interest very rapidly.

  77. None

    An honour killing perhaps?

  78. Knuckle Dragger

    None,

    My money’s on the tram shooter being a German, dissatisfied with conditions of the Peace of Westphalia that ended the Thirty Years’ War in 1648.

  79. None

    oh KD I hope you didn’t give up your day job

  80. struth

    This piece of old rope comes in and ties it self to the bar.
    When it asks for a drink the barman says hello, whadda we got here an old piece of rope!
    No.. a frayed knot.

  81. Knuckle Dragger

    HP,

    The Turks and Germans were allies in WW1. It all makes sense if you think about it.

  82. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This one’s for military type Cats.
    We always knew that my great uncle was a World War Two veteran. There were references to “North Africa” and “New Guinea”, and he kept a diary. By foul means, or fouler, I’ve come by those dairies, and I’m transcribing the thoughts of a man who describes himself as ” by obligation a soldier, by inclination , a scholar.”

    It emerges that he was a mortar crewman, in an infantry battalion – 22 Trig Point and El Alamein – and, as someone who “put the odd few rounds down the tube” myself, the diaries are interesting reading.

  83. Fat Tony

    An Englishman, an Irishman & a Welshman walk into a bar.
    The bartender says “What? Is this some kind of joke?”

  84. Knuckle Dragger

    Two fish were swimming along together in a lake.

    Suddenly one of them swims head first into a concrete wall. SMACK!

    It turns to the other fish and says, ‘Dam!’

  85. HP

    The Utrecht Police just now put up the English version of their tweet to help locate the suspect:
    https://twitter.com/PolitieUtrecht/status/1107636046685188096

  86. Knuckle Dragger

    Two cows were standing in a paddock, munching on grass and staring at passing traffic.

    They do this for four hours.

    Then one cow turns to the other and says, ‘MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.’

    The other cow, disappointed, turns back to the first and says, ‘Bugger you, I was just about to say that!’

  87. Knuckle Dragger

    I’ll get in first with this one.

    Jacinta Ardern walks into a bar.

    The barman says, ‘Why the long face?’

  88. None

    So we have dad jokes, war Diaries, and Utrecht terrorist hunt.
    Zulu seens those diaries perhaps should be placed with a state archive either a state library or the war memorial. That way they can get digitised and also preserved.

  89. struth

    A bloke dies and goes to heaven.
    At the Pearly gates st Peter checks his name off and checks a wall full of clocks.
    One clock has his name on it and st Peter says ah, 0130 am ok you pass in ya go.
    The bloke asks st Pete about the clock and got told everytime he had a wank while he was alive the clock moved forward a minute.
    He noticed a hole in the wall where a clock should be and the name “numbers” written under the whole.
    Where’s that clock he asked.
    God uses it in his office as a fan.

  90. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu seens those diaries perhaps should be placed with a state archive either a state library or the war memorial. That way they can get digitised and also preserved.

    Those diaries will be. They will be going to the Army Museum in Western Australia, but i’m passing them on to the family first.

  91. None

    Yaroslav Trofimov

    @yarotrof

    Chief Foreign-Affairs Correspondent of The Wall Street Journal. Author of Siege of Mecca. Endorsing nothing. Email me yarotrof at gmail. Instagram

    @yarotrof

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    Utrecht police name Turkish-born Gokman Tanis in connection w today’s attack. Just yesterday Erdogan played the New Zealand attack video as part of his political campaign, and pro-gov’t Turkish newspaper said the attack was staged by Western intelligence agencies.

  92. struth

    Billy Graham was on a tour or south west England and while walking along a cliff top saw two fellows holding a rope and on the other end down in the ocean was a paki holding on for his life.
    Billy said god bless you guys its a woderful thing you do saving that man, and continued on his way.
    One fella said to the other…oos that then?
    The other one said…..I don’t know who he’d be but he knows nothin’ about shsrk fishing.

  93. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    He noticed a hole in the wall where a clock should be and the name “numbers” written under the whole.

    Curse you, Struth. It would seem that most conscripted schoolteachers were posted to the Pacific Islands Battalion, to teach English to the soldiers there, but it would seem that it was not unknown for National Servicemen to go along with the flow, to claim the war service housing loan, and other benefits….. and later claim that they didn’t want to be there in the first place…

  94. None

    Good to hear Zulu. And good that you’re also transcribing. We’ve got some volunteers here who transcribe old Diaries because a lot of young people can’t even read cursive anymore which means future historians are unlikely to even be able to make use of high resolution images. Shocking.

  95. Knuckle Dragger

    And here I was thinking Somalia was a third world shithole.

    Just saw some courtroom footage from Mogadishu. Two brothers were convicted of raping a ten year old girl, and the judge sentenced them to have their penises slashed to bits.

    Right then and there in the courtroom.

    One of the guards put the first old mate in a choke hold from behind, and another ripped the bloke’s dacks down and went to work. By virtue of the crystal clear footage, I don’t think he’ll be raping anything any more.

    I don’t think the judge was the same one that presided over the P3ll disaster.

  96. Why do I have the feeling that were our Judges to have that power, it’d be more likely to be utilised for the crime of Climate “Denial” rather than for the crime of Granny Bashing?
    And wouldn’t be used at all on “Youths” who run wild in Melbourne?

  97. I mean, who do you think would be more likely to receive that punishment in Victoria?
    Fraser Anning, as a punishment for being King Hit?
    Or the Apex gang for being caught razor-slashing a legal secretary’s face while she was jogging in the park?

  98. HP

    None,
    Interesting connection, yes.

    Mayor of Utrecht just put out a statement that the investigation is assuming “a terrorist motive” and also has updated the public on the carnage:
    3 dead, 9 wounded of whom 3 seriously.
    https://twitter.com/GemeenteUtrecht/status/1107641324013010944
    (Dutch)

    The suspect is known to police. On the 4th of March, the suspect was in court, accused of rape, I am reading. And at the time of that trial (4/3), the suspect was in either jail or prison, according to news that’s dribbling out at the moment.

    Just look for a sec on how fast even the Australian is dropping this story… from top of the front page to the bottom in about 30 mins.
    It’s impressive.

  99. Just look for a sec on how fast even the Australian is dropping this story… from top of the front page to the bottom in about 30 mins.
    It’s impressive.

    Yep.
    Nothing much to see here, so you just get straight on back to hating Whitey Supremacists & ululating over Christchurch. Y’all hear ?

  100. Announcement: I’ve just been deplatformed by ……… Gumtree.

    I.am.not.making.this.up.

  101. Holy Mackerel, aren’t our R.o.P. brethren capitalising on the Christchurch irritation event!
    If their ALPBC’s “The Dumb” is any guide, they’ll have Scomo removed by popular Muslim acclaim tomorrow, flogged in the town square, & a co-operative council of wise Muslims installed in his place.

  102. Knuckle Dragger

    You’d never pick the RoP as Greens voters, but there you go. They’ve probably got that bloated fishwife Hanson-Young targeted as a replacement.

    Speaking of SHY, apparently she was spotted on a bench outside a Subway the other day.

    Told a bystander she’d been sitting there for five hours, but no trains had come yet.

  103. Told a bystander she’d been sitting there for five hours, but no trains had come yet.

    Nah, that was actually Alex Ocasio-Cortez.
    Hanson-Young was inside, expressing her disappointment that a “Meaty Footlong” wasn’t what she had hoped it to be.

  104. Knuckle Dragger

    Dammit.

    I had something for this…….

  105. C.L.

    The word “evil” was used in this exchange to describe the Christchurch killer.
    It could equally aptly be used to describe what Chris Wallace tried to do.
    The media are crazed killers of truth and they’re out of control:
    ———–
    Video:
    Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney calling out Chris Wallace’s deceptive attempt to link the New Zealand shooter with President Trump.

    Well done, Mr Mulvaney.

  106. Steve trickler

    This reminds me of Sky playing Toccata.



  107. None

    Wow thanks HP. I bet they’re dropping it.

  108. None

    Bloody hell KD what are you watching. I’m just reading how Cyclone Idai has smash Mozambique. It’s a pity it didn’t smash Somalia instead.

  109. Leigh Lowe

    The Utrecht incident now being described as “fare evasion gone wrong”.

  110. The Utrecht incident now being described as “fare evasion gone wrong”.

    The usual response to being caught without a tram ticket is to shoot dead the half-dozen people nearest you.

  111. Leigh Lowe

    The Utrecht incident now being described as “fare evasion gone wrong”.

    The usual response to being caught without a tram ticket is to shoot dead the half-dozen people nearest you.

    Well, the fine is 50 gilders, so desparate times…

  112. None

    Just skimming The Daily Telegraph front page. Most journalist really think that we’re imbeciles who need to be protected from speech they can’t personally bear to hear although if they’re anything like the journalists that I’ve ever known they are incredibly foul-mouthed and hypocritical.

  113. Tom

    Virtually to a man, British cartoonists (unlike America) are Establishment stooges who loathe Brexit and democracy. Here’s Steve Bright putting the boot into Nigel Farage in the London Sun.

  114. Mater

    Yep. Police are stationed within a couple of blocks. Took 36 mins to get there. Passing strange.

    I don’t subscribe to the conspiracy theory that goes along with it (too many moving parts), but this was the first thing that struck me when assessing the video.
    The gunman casually did his thing, walked outside (as if expecting that he’d be arrested) but no one was there. Walked around a bit, waiting. Eventually decided to go back inside to do a bit more, almost a repeat of what he did the first time around. No rush at all. Came back outside again, still no one. Casually decides to get back in his car and go and cause more havoc, some whilst driving.
    I agree, it was bizarre in a major city. In truth, I would’ve expected a much quicker response to such gunfire, even in Melbourne.

  115. rugbyskier

    Looking at the response by the Canterbury Rugby Union to the virtue signalling over the Crusaders name gives me confidence the name won’t be changed. “We acknowledge the calls and will consider it in due course” is classic political/bureaucratic speak for “we’re not going to seriously consider this but we’ll say something to humour and patronise you”.

  116. Gab

    Canterbury Rugby Union to the virtue signalling over the Crusaders name

    For pity’s sake, how petty! People are actually offended by the name Crusaders? No, pretending to be offended, in reality they are enveloped in hate and loving it.. Poor sods.

  117. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ben Garrison #2.

    I had to go check…Woods is in fine form on Twitter, so the ban must’ve been temporary.
    His latest tweet fits well with the Beto toons. I won’t quote it as it’s a bit rough for the morning Cattery. Here’s the story he’s referring to:

    NBC’s Seth Meyers mocks MSNBC’s Beto O’Rourke coverage: ‘Wow, hard-hitting stuff you guys’

    The MSM does seem to have quite a thing for Mr O’Rourke. But then they did for Mr Turnbull too.

  118. Knuckle Dragger

    I don’t know where anybody got the 36 minute number for police attendance in Christchurch responding to the Great Muesli Shoot of 2019. Reliable info I have is that the response time to the mosque was under six minutes.

    Within 36 minutes the shooter was in custody.

    (Corroborating source, not my source is NZPOL.)

  119. Mater

    KD,
    You’ve watched it.
    Does my observation of the perpetrators behaviour at the first mosque seem odd for someone who’d supposedly planned to move onto multiple targets?
    He couldn’t possibly be sure of the police response time.
    Remarkably casual.

  120. Knuckle Dragger

    Dutch tram guy arrested. Possible motives said to be:

    1. Terrorism;
    2. Family issues (a rello was said to be on the tram as well); and/or
    3. Anti UN protest! The site of the shooting was in a square named for the signing off of the UN in 1945.

    Presented without further comment.

  121. John Constantine

    Last week I delivered the last of my forward price contract lambs over the hooks.

    Still leaves a percentage to be sold at current rates, which I was expecting to be reflecting high feed prices and lower supply.

    Lamb prices have come off twenty percent since Christmas, offering no incentive to feed on to higher weights. Still good money, but once the daylength shortens and the nights cool off, it becomes harder to put weight on lambs.

    Basically the red meat industry is bringing forward supply and chewing up breeding stock and cutting off the winter lamb supply in autumn.

    Throw in a shortreich ban on cattle and sheep exports in their first hundred days add high grain prices until next harvest and a fifty percent weather bureau call of dryness, it all looks like meeting our unswerving commitment to the Paris conventions and dropping livestock numbers fifty percent is pencilled in.

    Comrades.

  122. Gab

    Arky! Arky! Wherefor are thou, Arky?

    This book is one I couldn’t remember to recommended you when you were doing That Great Debate. Oh well, it is still an edifying read.

  123. Knuckle Dragger

    Mater,

    Yeah, watched it. You can never be entirely sure what’s in someone’s head, but if I was going to conduct such an enterprise I certainly would have researched average police response times.

    Additionally, the shooter may not have been concerned by a first response, given that NZ wallopers are generally unarmed, and had planned to start ventilating them too if they fronted up early (not necessarily knowing the hardware they carry in the boot).

    Thirdly, he may have been expecting a harder response first up, and that he envisaged the other targets as bonus points, given he had completed his primary ‘mission’. No immediate response (see him scanning up and down the street when goes out the front gate), then he thinks everything else is gravy.

    Fourthly, perchance he wasn’t in a great hurry at the mosque not through a sense of purpose, but because he never had proper control of his arsenal. As I’ve said earlier, his skills appear to have been learned through first person shooter video games (his manifesto claims ‘fortnite taught me how to kill’ and his competence with a shotgun as seen in the car is non-existent), along with occasionally frightening people at the local range and maybe the odd yip shoot in the bush. True, he does go back in the mosque to double tap some victims but (1) they’re easy marks as they’re already shot and not moving, and (2) they also do that on first person shooters.

    Failing all that, he could have just been a maniac who didn’t care. I really don’t see evidence of a great dark plan behind it. Not saying there isn’t from my view across the ditch, but if there is I don’t see it.

  124. Knuckle Dragger

    John C,

    That reminds me. Last night, in between a Dad joke battle I was reading a book on medieval England in the 14th Century (yes I know, nerd alert).

    Apparently, 700 years ago cattle were the size of sheep, and sheep the size of dogs.

    Incredible stuff. Any comments/analysis? I’ve mustered plenty of sheep and done a bit of rousing in my youth, but I’m not in a position to provide any credible input on how this came to be.

  125. hzhousewife

    So what you are saying John Constantine, is fill the freezer now, you won’t be able to afford it later in the year?

  126. Mater

    Agreed. His weapon handling was the mark of a novice.
    I’m not convinced that a great dark plan exists, certainly not involving the authorities. I am open to what may be found in so far as who was supporting him and why.
    A take away from this is the damage a single person can do before police assistance arrives, even in a major city. He announced his presence rather loudly as opposed to most evil doers and one would think that 000 calls would have commenced immediately.
    Self reliance has never been so important.

  127. hzhousewife

    Apparently, 700 years ago cattle were the size of sheep, and sheep the size of dogs.

    When I went to Glasgow in 1975 to meet my Aunt for the first time, almost all the older women who lived in her street were around 5 foot tall. No nutrition.

  128. John Constantine

    Mr Knuckle, my first instinct is to guess that medieval oxen were big enough to draw ploughs and carts.

    Livestock size and growth rates depend on genetic potential and available feed to enable that potential, so a small, tough breed of sheep now in Australia, coming off a hard feed season in a region that grows small sheep will only be hound size.

  129. Herodotus

    Jo Nova uses wayback page to expose Greenpeace’s attempt to rewrite history and deny that Patrick Moore was a co-founder of that organisation. He was one of five, and the only scientist!
    Link to Jo, with picture of original Greenpeace page!

  130. John Constantine

    Auctionsplus is eBay for Australian sheep, and has had plenty of lines of lambs under ten kilos dressed weight for sale and many merino ewe lines under forty kilos live weight.

    This is in times where it is economic to ration feed sheep.

    Plenty of well fed British breed sheep up around seventy and eighty kilos live weight as well.

    Most of the breeding is in the feeding as the old joke goes.

  131. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I don’t know where anybody got the 36 minute number for police attendance in Christchurch responding to the Great Muesli Shoot of 2019. Reliable info I have is that the response time to the mosque was under six minutes.

    You can hear sirens in the video right near the end of the 17min clip where he is speeding off to the next target. I would say a good 13-14min before cops got to the first mosque, given how long he spends getting organised.

  132. Knuckle Dragger

    John C,

    Appreciated. Sheep-sized cattle would be a far easier prospect to manage.

    Driven (very slowly) past a couple of very big bulls up here in the NT, slow enough to notice that their backs were the same height as the roof of the 4WD we were in.

  133. John Constantine

    Sadly, imported chicom pork will be cheap this year, even the stuff uninfected by swine fever.

    Should a Hinch, Green’s shortreich ban on the northern cattle export industry kick in, then like last time, the domestic Australian red meat industry will take a price slump.

    This time, wool sheep joining will increase in response. I already have depastured merino rams for the first time in a long time, just in case the incoming cartel goes completely power crazed.

  134. Knuckle Dragger

    Mater,

    The terrifying thing is how much greater the carnage would have been if the shooter was competent and not a Grafton nuffy whose only talent appears to be playing video games.

    HYPOTHETICALLY, a competent shooter during his reconnaissance would have identified all the exit points of the building, and then barricaded them from the outside to prevent egress. Then inside you go, start dropping the people closest to the main door thus stampeding the rest up to the other end.

    Then it’s a matter of shooting fish in a barrel (so to speak) letting the AR15 rounds to shoulder the load. He would have been out in the same time or less with no-one left alive in the building.

    Hypothetically.

  135. Mater

    KD,
    Just a couple of my observations against your comments.

    but if I was going to conduct such an enterprise I certainly would have researched average police response times.

    You’re trained and he used a GPS to make his way to his first target. I’m not sold on the thoroughness of his preparation in this regard.

    his manifesto claims ‘fortnite taught me how to kill’ and his competence with a shotgun as seen in the car is non-existent

    I took that as a tongue-in-cheek response to what he saw as an obvious and stupid question that he knew would be asked. He basically said that Fortnite taught him to ‘Floss’ (a dance) on his victims. He ends his answer to that question with an emphatic ‘No’. Sarcastic comment in my assessment, though I’m sure he’s played it.

  136. Curse you, Struth. It would seem that most conscripted schoolteachers were posted to the Pacific Islands Battalion, to teach English to the soldiers there,

    Another myth. It’s Catallaxy, of course, so mostly fantasy. “Most” is rank bullshit.
    The bulk of teachers who were conscripted, like me, finished up in Infantry.
    A few lucky buggers got Education Corps.
    They did Infantry Corps training with us, then were posted with rank of Sergeant to teach English to the Pacific Island Regiment in PNG.
    Best account is this one, written by a bloke whom I knew from Rookies at Singleton.
    Funny old world – turned out he taught my bride and her sisters in another life at Herberton.

  137. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Erdogan angers New Zealand by airing footage of killings
    Turkish leader uses video of Christchurch attacks at campaign rallies

  138. stackja

    Amanda Terkel
    ‏Verified account
    @aterkel
    A girl was unable to cope with college because of her snowplow parents BECAUSE SHE DIDN’T LIKE SAUCE ON HER FOOD. Her parents had protected her from sauce. https://nyti.ms/2F93efd

    How Parents Are Robbing Their Children of Adulthood
    https://nyti.ms/2F93efd
    Today’s “snowplow parents” keep their children’s futures obstacle-free — even when it means crossing ethical and legal boundaries.

  139. Mater

    The terrifying thing is how much greater the carnage would have been if the shooter was competent and not a Grafton nuffy whose only talent appears to be playing video games.

    This is the real problem. He didn’t need to use semi-automatic weapons to get this carnage. It could have been achieved in a number of ways, at any number of targets.
    We live in a high trust environment, which leaves us vulnerable to mass casualty events. Societal trust has allowed us a great and free lifestyle but this trust is essential to maintaining it. I fear this trust is waning, and so will our lifestyle.

    In this article about the Sykes-Picot agreement, the BBC says:

    The resulting order inherited by the Middle East of the day sees a variety of states whose borders were generally drawn with little regard for ethnic, tribal, religious or linguistic considerations.

    Often a patchwork of minorities, there is a natural tendency for such countries to fall apart unless held together by the iron grip of a strongman or a powerful central government.

  140. David Brewer

    Could I propose bollux’s comment on Sinc’s immigration post the other day as a Liberty Quote?

    It’s this one, namely:

    How can another Australian make me so f…ing angry by just thinking like this!

  141. Knuckle Dragger

    Fair points all, Mater.

  142. Knuckle Dragger

    Dear God, Stackja.

    I read that article expecting the prevention of a college student from the terror of sauce was going to be the worst bit. How wrong I was.

    A student leaving college and returning home because there was a rat in the dorm room.

    A mother ringing the college to get the salad menu, so she could tell her daughter what to eat because otherwise she wouldn’t know.

    Another one intervening in a dispute between two college students over stolen peanut butter.

    And the killer – the mother of a Stanford student having to organise PLAY DATES for her kid with other students because her child didn’t have the social skills to do so!

    Mind you, if this sort of thing doesn’t happen in Australian universities I’ll bare my arse in Bourke Street.

  143. Nob

    Mater, even under Ottoman empire tribal societies in the Inland areas of the Arabian peninsula didn’t have fixed border lines on maps and were rife with conflict anyway.

    Mineral/hydrocarbon exploitation rights disputes made fixed borders essential and for everyone who gained from this there were others who got screwed, or consider that they have been.

  144. stackja

    Ian Plimer just on 2GB. Podcast likely later.

  145. stackja

    Potential bloodbath for investments in unreliable energy
    Posted on 7:53 am, March 19, 2019 by Rafe Champion

    Recently the AEMO (Energy Market Operator) flagged the rerating of some unreliable energy projects to take account of power lost in transmission that can amount to more than 10% of the power generated. This is explained in a technical paper on loss factors. Jo Nova has elaborated on this process and the financial implications for many of the projects about to bring more wind and solar power on line (maybe).

    As Australia push-pumps “renewables” into remote locations some of their incomes are suddenly being cut because the losses (as they transmit across long lines) are higher than they expected. On March 8th the AEMO rerated many generators and this year it’s being called a bloodbath for wind and solar. Some of them, like AGL’s Silverton wind farm face losses of 20%.

    The danger of stranded assets where wind and solar factories are located far from the existing grid was flagged long ago and this rerating process is just another chapter in the story of the debacle of unreliable energy installed in advance of mass storage facilities.

    What is new? The Germans have demonstrated that you can spend a trillion euros to increase the cost of power and destabilize the grid without getting anywhere near emission reduction targets. I suppose the experiment has to be replicated before people will be convinced.

  146. stackja

    Knuckle Dragger
    #2963418, posted on March 19, 2019 at 7:52 am

    How did children of the 1940s survive the deprivations, that were the norm of the time?

  147. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The relentless venezuelisation of welfare herds.
    Conservative Resurgence is one of the few I donate to

  148. Bruce of Newcastle

    Send this one to any Green you know, since Greens just lurve their smartphones.

    Smartphones cause global warming

    In 2010, smartphone use added 17 megatons of CO2 equivalent (17 MT-CO2-e) to annual global emissions. By next year (2020), smartphone emissions are expected to reach 125 MT-CO2-e/year – a 730% explosion in just 10 years.

    SHY must sponsor a bill in Parliament to immediately ban smartphones. For the planet!

  149. Farmer Gez

    And the killer – the mother of a Stanford student having to organise PLAY DATES for her kid with other students because her child didn’t have the social skills to do so!

    This is a display of excellence in parenting.
    Modern parents (mothers) have managed to breed children that don’t lie. They’re amazing!

  150. Mater

    Mater, even under Ottoman empire tribal societies in the Inland areas of the Arabian peninsula didn’t have fixed border lines on maps and were rife with conflict anyway.

    Same applies with the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. The tribe straddling it identifies with their ethnic group and neither country. In fact, Pakistan troops are rather reticent to go in there at all.

    Not sold that all diversity creates strength. History doesn’t seem to support the notion.

  151. Johno

    Sniffy you are the most stupid person to ever post on this blog.

    Can’t you see that you were being laughed at, you nong?

  152. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    So just like the Breivik irritant, the narrative opportunity …er irritant of Christchurch will result in precisely zero impact on the mass importation of non-conservative voting and tax hoovering voteherds….

    The only people discussing the issues raised are a few podcasters who have mostly moved on to a new topic or have been deplatformed by one world government technocrats.

    The one world government elites have already swept the manifesto into the forgetery making access to it a criminal offence, wrongthink must be suppressed at all cost.

    Carry on not having babies thank you.

  153. Bruce of Newcastle

    Fun photos, especially the first one:

    BBQ Wind Turbine

    A wind turbine caught fire in West Pubnico, N.S., late Friday afternoon, throwing huge, burning pieces of material to the ground.

    Firefighters were called to the scene around 5 p.m., but West Pubnico fire department Chief Gordon Amiro said there was little firefighters could do to douse the flames.

    “We couldn’t get nowhere near because the blades was still turning, so, and pieces was breaking off the blades,” he said. “So if a piece was to fall off, it would go a long ways with the wind and that. So it wasn’t safe to go nowhere near the tower at all.”

    I wonder what would happen here if a wind turbine started a devastating bush fire? Seems inevitable.

  154. stackja

    Gunman who killed three, injured several others in Dutch ‘terror attack’ caught
    Ellen Whinnett, staff writers, European correspondent, News Corp Australia Network
    13 minutes ago

    A Turkish man has been arrested over a shooting in the Netherlands which left three people dead, five injured, and sparked a major terror alert.

    Gokmen Tanis, 37, was arrested by Dutch police several hours after three people were shot dead on a tram in the university city of Utrecht in the central Netherlands.

    Dutch media is reporting that Tanis had been expected to appear in court on March 4 over an alleged case of [email protected] in which a female was sexually assaulted several times, and a threat was made to burn down her house.

    He has also, according to Dutch media, had other problems with the law including an incident in 2013 where he was accused of attempted manslaughter, burglary, assaulting police and more minor shoplifting and drink-driving matters.

    Police had earlier said they were searching for Turkish-born suspect Gökman Tanis, 37, and issued a picture of him.

    Another ‘poor misunderstood’.

  155. One ScoMo does not make a Spring

    Interesting commentary by my taxi driver last night. As we went to pull away from the kerb a mid sized sedan pulled up and blocked our exit. 4-5 people piled in to that car and it drove away. As this was happening the commentary starts:
    ‘Look at that [email protected] Indian [email protected]!
    Thinks he can [email protected] drive like that here.
    [email protected] [email protected]
    You can’t turn right there.
    I saw him [email protected] drive down the road like he was on [email protected] tram tracks.
    You get fined for driving like that.
    [email protected] no idea.
    [email protected] that Indian [email protected]

    All of this said above was heavily accented.

    I asked my driver where he was from.
    [email protected] Turkey mate, been here 26 years’

    Sans the reference to India I believe the chap was assimilating well.

  156. calli

    NZ authorities considering dropping Tarrant’s “terror” charge to “murder” so that the manifesto doesn’t come into evidence.

    This was from Seven News, so grain of salt time.

  157. Knuckle Dragger

    BoN,

    Should a bushfire be started by a wind turbine doing a Catherine Wheel impersonation, devastating half a dozen lizards in the process, expect a presser from SHY where she will declare ‘accidents happen, tragedies happen,’ followed by kale and avocado sliders for all.

  158. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2963436, posted on March 19, 2019 at 8:19 am

    How many such failures go unreported?

  159. stackja

    Michael Daley caught on video warning about Asian immigrants
    Anna Caldwell, The Daily Telegraph
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    Today, Mr Daley issued an apology over his remarks at Wentworth Falls. In a statement issued this morning, he has written: “I could have expressed myself better. I meant no offence and hope none has been taken. I apologise if any offence is taken.

    2GB mention another incident:

    Was senior Labor MP Michael Daley drunk when he was ejected from …
    https://www.news.com.au/…michael-daley-drunk…/6f2f50df2274aeb0de05460e3254bb…
    Jun 22, 2012 – A SENIOR Labor MP has refused to deny that he was drunk while … Was senior Labor MP Michael Daley drunk when he was ejected from .

  160. Geriatric Mayfly

    How did children of the 1940s survive the deprivations, that were the norm of the time?
    Dunno. But here I am. Bread and dripping was one of my faves plus fried bread in bacon fat.

  161. Goanna

    I wonder what would happen here if a wind turbine started a devastating bush fire? Seems inevitable.

    Exactly Bruce. There are wind turbines planned for north west of Yea ( the same location as the north south white elephant pipeline). Should a fire start on a bad fire day we will see a repeat of Black Saturday with the same bush and towns devastated.

  162. areff

    Cathy Wilcox lets Silly Moaning Herald readers know who’s really responsible for Christchurch. Instructive that one of her, er, artwork’s first admirers is Marilyn Shepherd.

    https://twitter.com/cathywilcox1/status/1107742781923950592

  163. one old bruce

    “We decide who comes to this country” was actually a Bob Hawke quote if memory serves. Airbrushed from history. Or he said it before Howard, because Mal Fraser wanted migrants Hawkie’s mates didn’t approve of. Anyone else remember this?

  164. mh

    The Utrecht incident now being described as “fare evasion gone wrong”.

    Radio news saying that this story of a Muslim killing at least three on a tram is not thought to be terror related.

    Of course not, because Fraser Anning is the evil one.

  165. Delta A

    How did children of the 1940s survive the deprivations, that were the norm of the time?

    Deprivations?

    We had friends, boundless imagination and the freedom to to explore this combination from dawn to dusk, once our regular chores were finished.

    Our parents had to scrimp and stretch out every penny, yet we never felt deprived. It was only the advent of television that made us realise all the material things we didn’t have.

  166. Percy Popinjay

    Poor ol’ Daley. One moment you’re out there stating the bleeding obvious to a receptive audience, the next you’re being set upon by your confreres in the braindead lamestream collectivist meeja (BIRM).

    The timing is terrible, shall we say.

  167. Empire 5:5

    Australian ISPs blocking 8chan, yet FB and Twitter still up.

    Welcome to 1984.

  168. Top Ender

    Probably, OO Bruce, related to this:

    The Gough Fan Club has never disputed Clyde Cameron’s account in China, Communism and Coca-Cola (1980) about how Whitlam told cabinet in 1975 that he was “not having hundreds of f—— Vietnamese Balts coming into this country”. The Whitlam government’s excessively harsh policy to potential asylum seekers is documented in Hal G.P. Colebatch’s recent PhD thesis at the University of Western Australia.

    The fact is that Whitlam did not want anti-communist Vietnamese entering Australia. But it was the anti-communists who were the genuine asylum seekers at the time – fleeing the communist regime which conquered South Vietnam in April 1975. In her book, The Long Journey (MUP 1984), Nancy Viviani suggested that the Whitlam government’s hostility to Vietnamese refugees was partly motivated by “a care for the attitudes” of the North Vietnamese communist leadership.

    Writing in Quarterly Essay (Issue 6, 2002) Mungo MacCallum – one of the Gough Fan Club’s leading barrackers – has described Whitlam’s 1975 statement as “a few lines of rhetoric”. This is completely disingenuous. The fact is that Whitlam’s attitude, as reported by Cameron and others, denied refuge to Vietnamese who were entitled to seek asylum in Australia.

    From the Socialist Morning Herald in 2002, no less.

  169. stackja

    Hundreds of Parramatta MP Geoff Lee election posters ‘destroyed, vandalised a night’
    Matt Taylor, Urban affairs reporter, Parramatta Advertiser
    March 18, 2019 8:19pm
    Subscriber only

    Police want to question this man, who is seen allegedly vandalising a Geoff Lee campaign poster under the cover of darkness.

  170. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    The Rudd government and Gillard governments have extremely impressive records. In fact in 2012 we’ve had the second most pages of legislation passed in Commonwealth parliamentary history, and this is despite a supposedly unworkable hung parliament. … Both Rudd and Gillard are good communicators. Rudd was an excellent communicator with the public and Gillard was better within the parliament and caucus.

    — Bronwyn Hinz

  171. Dr Faustus

    Their ABC runs an extraordinary evidence-free hit piece on a competitor:

    As the Christchurch attacks unfolded, I knew I had to quit my job at Sky News

    As a young Muslim woman, I had many crises of conscience working here, but the events of Friday snapped me out of the endless cycle of justifying my job to myself. On Saturday, I finally sent in my letter of resignation.

    I was a liaison for the channel based in their Canberra studio, a junior role helping with studio guests and the running of the office as a casual a few times a week.

    I realised pretty quickly though that the Sky News I worked on wasn’t focused on reporting facts and informing the public. Rather, conservative media commentators came together with current and former right-wing politicians, disseminating misinformation which bordered on conspiracies.

    The National Broadcaster leading the charge to suppress Wrongthink.
    (Clever job application by the way – expect to see and hear more of Mz Farrukh.)

  172. one old bruce

    Generalising, Boomer parents were the exact opposite of helicopter parents. Letting their their kids run wild and free at mud soaked rock fests and gypsy camps. Which is worse? The pendulum swings…

  173. Bruce of Newcastle

    Areff – While you’re here the following article isn’t coming up when I login. I read Dr Babones’ excellent article in the hardcopy Quadrant and wanted to give history Cats a link. The book by Danilevskii that he reviews would be of interest to several history Cats.

    The Chinese Delusion of a Greater Eurasia (28 Feb)

    I tried again just now and it still isn’t readable online even when logged in.

    (The book is Russia and Europe: The Slavic World’s Political and Cultural Relations with the Germanic-Roman West, by Nikolai Iakovlevich Danilevskii, 1871 edition recently translated into English.)

  174. mh

    This person writes for the Guardian and Rolling Stone

    Peter Kro-THOT-kin 💦

    @jamie_elizabeth
    We are in a war between those who choose to be human and those who choose to be white. In order to effectively stamp out fascism, we must take on all hierarchies at once. White supremacy cannot be disentangled from patriarchy and class oppression. Liberalism is not the answer.

    7:56 AM – Mar 17, 2019

    She has a history of it but never violates Twitter rules. Surprise

    Peter Kro-THOT-kin 💦

    @jamie_elizabeth
    white genocide is good as hell

    13:58 – 12 Oct 2018

  175. Dr Faustus

    NSW Labor leader apologises for foreign workers comment

    NSW Labor leader Michael Daley hopes no one was offended when he said young people were being forced to “flee” Sydney because their jobs were being taken by educated Asian migrants.

    The outrage at a conservative political leader, days ahead of an election, would be heard in Space.

  176. C.L.

    ABC Online leads with YET ANOTHER call to overturn Keli Lane verdict.
    This time the ABC claims police corruptly withheld exculpatory evidence.

    Louise Milligan and Graham Ashton couldn’t be reached for comment.

  177. lotocoti

    Chinese sci-fi writers …

    …turn out the occasional fillum too.

  178. Delta A

    Letting their their kids run wild and free at mud soaked rock fests and gypsy camps.

    My parents allowed us to run free around the neighbourhood, or on rellies’ farms, but there were no rock fests in my youth, nor in that of any of my contemporaries.

    Popular opinion has it that everyone in the sixties was drug-soaked and sex-crazed. That might be true of a certain class – we call them the elites these days – but it wasn’t the case for regular teens.

  179. Eyrie

    Leigh Lowe, you asked about runaway stab trim. Aircraft which have electrically operated trims which includes some light aircraft as well as most airliners, have a trim cutout switch in the event the relay switching the electric motor sticks “on”.
    In the 737 I think there are two motors for redundancy, hence two relays (or solid state switching devices), hence two cutout switches. As the drive can stick on whenever any of the 4 (5 in MAX) automatic systems move the trim motor plus the possibility that it sticks when trim is commanded by the pilot operated trim switch on the wheel, there must always be a cutout and the crew must be trained in its use and vigilant in case the electric trim fails at any time. No biggie after that, just use the directly connected manual trim wheel.
    The LionAir crew the day before did thatsuccessfully, the fault wasn’t cleared and the next crew didn’t handle it correctly. If LionAir give the pending orders to Airbus I can see them getting sued by Boeing.

  180. Knuckle Dragger

    While I’m learning so much this morning:

    Eyrie/LL,

    How accurate is the Air Crash Investigations show on TV? I quite like it, particularly the forensic part. They still refuse to show it on flights though.

  181. Bruce of Newcastle

    I called it at the time, now it’s happened.

    Birmingham School To Indefinitely Suspend LGBT Lessons For Kids After Muslim Parents’ Anger

    Oz next. Bad luck Roz Ward, you aren’t on as high a rung of the social victimology ladder as they are.

  182. The fact is that Whitlam did not want anti-communist Vietnamese entering Australia.

    Apparently Dutton and Scomo have adopted Whitlam’s viewpoint.

  183. Whalehunt fun

    Perhaps too many Vietnamese are non-muslim and SciMo would bever want to upset that voting block.

  184. Dr Faustus

    The UK is now heading into a full-blown constitutional crisis over Brexit.

    Speaker John Bercow has thrown the UK’s Brexit plans into further confusion by ruling out another vote on the PM’s deal unless MPs are given a new motion.

    In a surprise ruling, he said he would not allow a third “meaningful vote” in the coming days on “substantially the same” motion as MPs rejected last week.

    Mr Bercow cited a convention dating back to 1604 that a defeated motion could not be brought back in the same form during the course of a parliamentary session.

    This is not an arcane parliamentary rule. The fuckup fairies are in full control.

  185. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m sure the Vietnamese would all greatly appreciate a hug from ScoMo.

    Top that Whitlam!

  186. one old bruce

    Oh yes Top Ender. I’m old enough to remember Arthur Calwell’s election speeches as leader of ALP opposition, in favor of White Australia policy if not saying that explicitly. He sounded desperately bigoted while the Libs then sounded much more pro-Asia and progressive. Calwell leader of the ALP was our Enoch Powell in the 60s. I was aghast as a young man but now I see what he was getting at. And he wasn’t a bigot personally, just a realist who spoke straight.

    Numbers prides himself on always being on the good side of politics, he over-emphasises Vietnam to avoid talking about the complexities of the old left, which sensibly put Australian workers first in an uncertain world.

  187. Eyrie

    Knuckledragger, I think the show is pretty accurate. It will be based on official reports from the NTSB and or other safety investigation boards. The NTSB in particular is very good at what they do.

  188. mh

    Hotel EU

    You can check out any time you like,
    But you can never leave!

  189. jo

    Steve trickler
    #2963348, posted on March 19, 2019 at 2:20 am

    This reminds me of Sky playing Toccata.

    Thanks Steve, yes, not as good. Notice in Sky toccata arrangement the similarity to” Jeff Waynes War of the worlds”. Peek worked with Jeff Wayne.

  190. C.L.

    So NSW Labor is encouraging the slaughter of Asians.
    Wow.
    Time for Scott Morrison to hug Anh Do and Sam Pang.

  191. Snoopy

    Hibo Mahamoud, from Somali Parents Against Stigma (SPAS), said there was a “fixation” on FGM and called for a culture change.

    Her demand will be met sooner or later. Most likely sooner.

    lotocoti
    #2963482, posted on March 19, 2019 at 9:27 am

  192. Dr Faustus

    Labor has worked out its how-to-use-Christchurch strategy:

    Australia should learn from Christchurch attacks: Penny Wong

    Senator Wong said one concrete action the coalition government and her own party could do would be to make sure they preference One Nation and extreme right-wingers like independent senator Fraser Anning last at the coming federal election.

    Working closely with GetUp, which has identified half the Coalition as “Hard Right”, Labor is positioning to identify Far Right/Hard Right/Alt Right with opposition to the ALP policy platform.

    Cue for Shorten, wearing his very best faux-sincere face, to solemnly intone: “For Heaven’s sake, will Mr Morrison not join with us to reject the Hard Right position on [coal/offshore processing/negative gearing] that so divide the country and sets the scene for further extremism…

  193. John of Mel

    From the “violence” thread:

    Tel:

    I support a woman’s decision to have a small family if that’s a better lifestyle choice. Having fewer children means more resources go into the upbringing of each child … on the whole you get better educated adults.

    And where did these more educated adults took Australia and the Western world overall in the last 50 years?
    Sure, we have more trinkets and stuff, but are descending into chaos. Society is disintegrating.

  194. stackja

    mh
    #2963494, posted on March 19, 2019 at 9:41 am

    Last thing I remember, I was
    Running for the door

    When we called out for another drink
    But the waiter brought a tray

  195. struth

    Good Moaning.

    What, what, there was a mussie terror attack in Holland?

    Who’d know?

    For those of you unsure of whether it happened or not, you’ll soon know.
    Australian politicians will say we’re all Dutch now, Jancinda the minda will wear clogs onto Bolta’s show and give him a hug,………………..we’re just waiting for the start gun, the Liberal party PM to blame white right wingers and speak of banning trams.

    Waiting, waiting……………………….

  196. Old School Conservative

    Maybe the LNP is changing for the better.
    evidence – 1 The Liberal candidate in the prized seat of Curtin, former university boss Celia Hammond, has declared her ­belief that humanity’s contribution to global warming has ­likely been “very minimal”.
    Evidence 2 – An annual cap of 160,000 is to be placed (by the Coalition) on the migration intake in a move that will cut the targets set under Labor.
    Both from today’s Oz.
    Baby steps but better than nothing.

  197. Snoopy

    Mr Bercow cited a convention dating back to 1604 that a defeated motion could not be brought back in the same form during the course of a parliamentary session.

    The BBC report (aired on ABC Breakfast) and Lisa Millar’s following ignorant commentary gave the impression that the Speaker plucked the ruling out of his arse.

  198. areff

    Unlikely, but worth asking: Did any cat watch Madame secretary on CBS-owned ten last night?

    Apparently it was globalwarmingglobalwarmingglobalwarming, with a cyclone bigger than Flannery’s list of failed green business ventures bearing down on Nauru, the entire island about to be wiped off the map by storm-related “coral collapse” and the hunt on for a new home for the islanders.

    It seems that while Fiji, Tuvalu and New Guinea were all willing to absorb climate refugees, evil Australia is happy to let them drown (dialogue follows).

    What about Australia? Declined.

    They’re chockers, apparently — that means “full”.

    “Then say “full.

    Keep pushing.

    Congratulations, asylum seeker advocates. Hollywood endorses your line that we should all be ashamed to be Australian.

  199. struth

    The banning of Tarrants manifesto is precisely done to fuel violence, not the opposite.

    It is done to allow the main stream media to concoct and push the false narrative of right wing terrorism.
    There can be no other reason.
    His manifesto is, for those of us that did read it and should have saved it, in the end proves he was more closely allied to the left, as to defuse the incitement to violence against the right, so obviously sought by the MSM media and political elites.

    If he really was right wing, one, it would not have happened, and two, if it could possibly say anything that could link him to being right wing they’d have it on every paper’s front page across the world.
    Every word of it.
    Holding back the manifesto, is incitement to violence.
    Against us.

  200. stackja

    Dr Faustus
    #2963486, posted on March 19, 2019 at 9:31 am

    In Oz 1975 the GG acted, and election called. Can QEII offer advice to Maybe on a new election?

  201. Snoopy

    Has Michael Daley been accused of being a white supremacist, yet? Imagine if Fraser Anning had made that statement.

  202. teddy bear

    Snoopy maybe someone should ask him to repeat the very same thing.

  203. Infidel Tiger

    Maybe the LNP is changing for the better.
    evidence – 1 The Liberal candidate in the prized seat of Curtin, former university boss Celia Hammond, has declared her ­belief that humanity’s contribution to global warming has ­likely been “very minimal”.

    Told you she was sensible.

    I may even help her campaign.

  204. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    In one widely covered gaffe, O’Rourke apologized for joking at several events on Thursday and Friday that his wife Amy had been raising the couple’s three children “sometimes with my help.”

    The initial joke was replaced with a more benign comment that “Amy and I are raising three amazing kids.”

  205. stackja

    I note Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party have first position on NSW Upper House ballot paper for next Saturday election. Socialist Alliance Political party have second place. Sustainable Australia
    Political party are third.

  206. Snoopy

    Told you she was sensible.

    I may even help her campaign.

    Steady on. Confirm she uses locally crocheted tablecloths first.

  207. Eyrie

    Boeing 737 max stab trim

    https://theaircurrent.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/737-max-trim-control.jpg

    Note the clearly labelled and accessible cutout switches. Not shown are the automatic systems I mentioned earlier that can move the trim.

  208. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The justices refused to hear an appeal by Phyllis Young, who runs the three-room Aloha Bed & Breakfast in Honolulu, of the ruling that she ran afoul of Hawaii’s public accommodation law by refusing to rent a room to Diane Cervilli and Taeko Bufford in 2007. Litigation will now continue that will determine what penalty Young might face.

  209. struth

    Penny Wong’s hate speech

    “And, more importantly, to recognise that there is a difference between hate speech and freedom of speech,” the senator told ABC radio’s AM on Tuesday.

    And she wants to decide what is and isn’t hate speech.

    If your family gets killed by a terrorist and you wish to speak out against the terrorists motives, you are worse than the terrorist, according to Penny Wong.
    Not really sure if you should be the one deciding you warped old hag.

    She was elected at the 2001 “Tampa election”.

    “Since that time we have seen a willingness by some politicians to engage in language or actions which have not been, I think, in the national interest, have not been good for this country,” Senator Wong said.

    She wants to decide who can say what, where does that lead, you dangerous, man hating little communist.

    “I hope that what we can do is take this moment, a moment of such sorrow and grief, such tragedy and such horror, and do something with it that is good.”

    Translation, I hope we can tell enough lies from this to ban my political opposition from making arguments I have no answer for.

    Senator Wong said one concrete action the coalition government and her own party could do would be to make sure they preference One Nation and extreme right-wingers like independent senator Fraser Anning last at the coming federal election.
    Translation.
    The Uniparty of elites must get together to keep the threat of elected reps from minority parties from disturbing the UN global socialist agenda by using Australia’s corrupt voting system.

    Politicians needed to say to Australians that the values we all as a country believed in were those of inclusion, acceptance and respect.

    Even to those blowing whitey up.
    This New Zealand shooter doesn’t seem to have them scrambling to ensue all white people that the stand with us and know it has nothing to do with us, he’s just a lone wolf.
    #I’llridewithouunlessyou’rewhite

    “We have to choose unity over division. We have to choose respect over prejudice. We have to choose hope over fear and we have to choose love over hate,” she said.

    Yet he above statements suggest she cares more for abolishing democracy, blaming her political opposition for violence she knows they did not commit, calling for anti democratic action and curtailment of speech she doesn’t want to hear.

    Hate speech is in the ear of the beholder.
    To me, hate speech is every utterance from that diabolic man hating, western hating, bitch, who holds no love for the country and people she parasitically lives the high life from.

    Tell me SNIFFY McSKIDMARK, who should decide what is hate speech?

    She’s on you side.
    The party of hate filled hypocrites.

  210. C.L.

    Somali Parents Against Stigma (SPAS)

    LOL.
    It’s only a matter of time before opposition to mutilating little girls is “white supremacism.”

  211. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The justices refused to hear an appeal by Phyllis Young, who runs the three-room Aloha Bed & Breakfast in Honolulu, of the ruling that she ran afoul of Hawaii’s public accommodation law by refusing to rent a room to Diane Cervilli and Taeko Bufford in 2007. Litigation will now continue that will determine what penalty Young might face.

    misct the bit about her being christian and the two being lebians. Apparently you have no right to decide who stays in your own home if you allow rooms to be rented, insane.

  212. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “We have to choose unity over division. We have to choose respect over prejudice. We have to choose hope over fear and we have to choose love over hate,” she said.

    War is peace
    freedom is slavery
    ignorance is strength.

    two legs good! four legs bad!
    two legs good! four legs bad!

  213. stackja

    today
    HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — The Latest on the release from prison of reputed Connecticut mobster who federal authorities believe has information on a still-unsolved heist of $500 million worth of artwork from a Boston museum (all times local):

    3:25 p.m.

    Federal prison officials say there is no evidence to support mistreatment allegations made by a reputed Connecticut mobster who authorities believe is the last surviving person of interest in the largest art heist in history.

    Eighty-two-year-old Robert Gentile was released from prison Friday after finishing a four-year sentence for weapons crimes. He maintains he knows nothing about the still-unsolved theft of $500 million worth of art from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum in Boston in 1990.

  214. Zatara

    The Best Analysis Of What Really Happened To The Boeing 737 Max From A Pilot & Software Engineer

    A shorter analysis.

    Numerous reports were made of the MCAS malfunction by US major airline pilots, they landed their aircraft safely to do so.

    If you aren’t capable of turning George off and hand-flying the aircraft (or willing to do so) you are in above your head. A cargo-cult mentality has no place in a modern cockpit.

  215. Infidel Tiger

    Crazy Hands Beta O’Dork is also a psychopath who should be in jail:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1107761238656741376

  216. The Uniparty of elites must get together to keep the threat of elected reps from minority parties from disturbing the UN global socialist agenda by using Australia’s corrupt voting system.

    Anning an “elected rep”?
    Now that is funny….

  217. stackja

    ANGUILLA: LANDING OF BRITISH FORCES

    HL Deb 19 March 1969 vol 300 cc902-13 902
    § 3.54 p.m.

    §LORD CHALFONT My Lords, with the leave of your Lordships’ House I should like to repeat a Statement on Anguilla that is being made in another place. Perhaps I should say that it is a long Statement. It begins:
    “With your permission, Mr. Speaker, and that of the House, I wish to make a Statement on Anguilla.

    “I have to inform the House that action was taken this morning to install Her Majesty’s Commissioner on Anguilla. A small military force, accompanied by British police officers, landed on the Island. The military force is acting in support of the civil power, and I am glad to say that the operation, which took place a few hours ago, has proceeded peacefully.”

    My Lords, perhaps I may break off here, to say that I think all your Lordships will agree that a good deal of the credit for the peaceful nature of this operation must go to all ranks who are taking part in the operation. The Statement continues:

    “Independent Commonwealth Governments in the Caribbean were informed of our intention before action was taken, and are in general agreement with our objectives. Governments of the Associated States in the Caribbean have also been kept fully informed and also agree.

    “Saint Christopher, Nevis and Anguilla which had been administered as a unified territory since 188: became an Associated State on the 27th February, 1967, following the usual 903 processes of Constitutional advancement. In May of that year the inhabitants of Anguilla ejected the small detachment of State Police from the Island, and subsequently purported to declare themselves independent. Since then there has been no lawful Government on the Island.

    “Many attempts have been made to reach a satisfactory settlement of the dispute between the Anguillans and the Central Government. A conference was held in Barbados in July, 1967, and was attended by Ministers from the independent Commonwealth Caribbean Governments—namely, Barbados, Guyana, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago—Her Majesty’s Government in the United Kingdom, the St. Kitts Government and leaders of the Anguillans.

    “A further attempt to provide an interim settlement was made in December, 1967, and January, 1968, when an agreement between Her Majesty’s Government, the St. Kitts Government and the Anguillan leaders was negotiated by my honourable friend the Member for Birmingham, Northfield and the honourable Member for Surbiton. This arrangement, or interim settlement as it came to be known, provided for the introduction of a senior British official, Mr. Tony Lee, to advise on the administration on Anguilla for a period of twelve months during which it was agreed that efforts would be made to negotiate a lasting settlement on lines acceptable to both parties, who undertook to refrain from hostile action during this period.

    “Before the expiry of the twelvemonth period, a determined attempt was made to establish whether common ground existed. Talks were held in London last October under the chairmanship of my honourable friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary, attended by the Premier of St. Kitts and the Anguillan leader, Mr. Webster. At these talks the possibility of a lasting settlement was discussed, and the possibility of extending by agreement the interim settlement. No agreement, however, was reached.

  218. Shy Ted

    Blood not boiling enough, here’s first dog for you.

  219. Peter Campion

    Baany havin’ a go!

    March for something that’s truly under threat: Western democracy

    BARNABY JOYCE

    That Australian cities last week had children marching in the streets to profess their concerns about atmospheric science — ¬climate change — is beyond absurdity; it is pathos.

    In many instances, the spelling on their placards was incorrect but their fervour was genuine. It is driven by instruction and not involved research at the more forensic level. Beyond the most basic instruction most, I would suggest, genuinely didn’t have a clue what they were protesting about apart from what had been espoused to them in the most basic terms by teachers in primary school classrooms.

    The near blind faith means we have instead a strident political agenda imposing its political views on children.

    It was a political march — not a science class — for a left-wing cause prior to an election.

    No one is seriously arguing the climate is not changing; I’m driving along the road now and the trees designed for our climate, eucalyptus, are dying. The creeks are dry and have been for years now; droughts are the rule and not the exception and their duration is brutal. Certainly, we have to have an answer about how we maintain our agricultural sector after ¬observing present trends.

    I’m also absolutely certain that protesting 10-year-olds in this task are nothing more than an antagonising distraction.

    When a mitigating solution is suggested that all sides of the climate debate should be able to find agreement on, such as the construction of the Bradfield scheme to move water from northern Australia to the south, it is derided in preference to a policy of national water construction inertia.

    Instead, we vote for further caveats on private assets and removal on others. We philosophise how people who cannot afford their power bill are a moral good. Better that they rely on the state than be able to afford it for themselves. This is climate as the mechanism for socialism.

    We are inspired to a sense of national nihilism. We’ve all gone too far and must now hop off the planet. It is a farce to think there is any policy Canberra can bring into law that will have any effect on the climate. You must manage the climate as it is, accept the problems it’s causing and build the infrastructure to partially mitigate against its effects.

    This will upset some teachers of 10-year-olds, but it is the truth. No bill will make it rain, stop cyclones, prevent drought, make it hotter, or make it colder but it can most certainly make us poorer.
    The argument put to us is that we are part of a global program and our actions will impel other countries to comply.

    So that means our actions will compel new totalitarian states to change their ways?

    So the mighty Chinese authoritarian state run by President-for-life Xi Jinping, which has taken over the South China Sea, incarcerated a million Uyghur people, hacked computer systems in our parliament, created a Belt and Road policy as part of its mechanism to make global economics dependent on Beijing, and which locks up senior executives of foreign companies on the premise of a slight to what China sees as its manifest destiny of being the global super power will take note and act on a law in Australia?

    This is as absurd as 10-year-old demonstrators professing concerns about atmospheric science.

    If you want to demonstrate about something, then demonstrate about the progress of global authoritarianism and how Australia would prevail in the post-Pax Americana world.

    I feel at times that we are listening to the musings of the Bavarian politician and playwright Ernst Toller in his very brief time as leader before fascism. Events are racing ahead of us and we are living in an indolent space in the security of a calm autumn.

    It is a space before the epiphany that liberal law and order is passing into a new epoch of market-driven totalitarianism.

    What we hoped would bring us prosperity and peace has done an excellent job of the first and left us in a precarious position on the ¬second.

    Market economics does not need democracy. It does not need the personal freedom that is such a prized part of Western democracy.

    Yet Western culture, with all its rights and liberties, is also now disdainfully held by the Left as the great chain of the afflicted.

    The marching children will have a problem vastly more imminent than climate change.

    Barnaby Joyce is the member for New England.

  220. Infidel Tiger

    Wow.

    The guy who killed the Gambino boss is a Qanon acolyte.

    What a time to be alive.

  221. Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastle and amortiser

    Good to see you over at donaitkin.com

    It is a good place to watch the “true believers” tap dancing!

  222. John Constantine

    https://www.police.vic.gov.au/operation-inspect-firearms-check

    The list of exactly which firearms are stored by who and exactly where is a treasure map.

    Once in the wrong hands, this treasure map can identify the most valuable and desirable firearms, held by the most vulnerable people in the most isolated locations.

    The next step in the process of deindustrialisation, de-electrification and compulsory vegynsys is disarming the public.

    “Sorry, the gun treasure map is now in the hands of activists, so you must now store your legal property in a central state storage, paying for the privilige and only obtaining access to your property by filling out a form a month in advance.”

    Comrades.

  223. Eyrie

    Wow, Barnaby!
    Very eloquent and to the point.
    OK get rid of that dud McCormack.

  224. Overburdened

    It has become necessary to abandon almost all websites.
    It used to be that the Overburdened Research Centre would study all material with an open mind and to discern the truth by finding the similarities amongst the lies, as Nic Machiavelli recommended.
    Eventually this noble mission was corrupted due to the lack of stamina to deal with overt bullshit.
    Now the the Bullshit Miasma (C) has swamped even once reliable sources it has reduced viewing of the internet to Chordu.com, email due to necessity, catallaxy files at the moment and various work related sites.
    I got nothing.

  225. John Constantine

    The actual central firearms registry is the problem, not the coppers.

    The registry is a bumbling disaster of everything that could go wrong with a dodgy information technology system, with typing input by the unmotivated and uninterested.

    Worth big money, and nobody would ever know if copies were made.

    Comrades.

  226. jupes

    Muslim lies about Sky News to get a job at the ABC.

    Note: A previous version of this article said Sky News played the gunmen’s live stream of scenes from inside the mosque. This was incorrect: the broadcaster showed segments of the live stream but not from inside the mosque. The article also said Sky New Zealand pulled the Sky News Australia feed, but Sky News Australia said in a statement that this is incorrect.

    Other than the lie, this is her list of complaints:

    I was there when Cory Bernardi advocated for banning the burqa, and when he called on the government to remove “offend” and “insult” from 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act under the guise of free speech.

    I was there when Pauline Hanson proudly talked about how she would, the following day, put forward the “It’s OK to Be White” motion to counter the rise of so-called anti-white racism.

    I watched as Bronwyn Bishop, following the “terror raids” in Sydney, insisting that “war” had been declared against western culture.

    I answered calls from viewers who yelled about immigrants and Muslims ruining Australia. They did not realise that the person on the other end of the phone was both of those things.

    Pathetic.

  227. John Constantine

    [ Well done that man Barnaby.]

  228. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    Of course the problem is demand, but it is not only demand, it is demand that must operate through repressed and illegal channels. Illegality creates obscene profits that finance the murderous tactics of the drug lords; illegality leads to the corruption of law enforcement officials; illegality monopolizes the efforts of honest law forces so that they are starved for resources to fight the simpler crimes of robbery, theft and assault.

    — Milton Friedman

    Stupid people want drugs. The demands of stupid people being met.

  229. MatrixTransform

    Numpty-Dumpty watched Paul Joseph Watson and had an epiphany?

    …I doubt it.

  230. MatrixTransform

    The registry is a bumbling disaster

    Compliance checks for known firearms – check

    Can’t put my finger on it but … something tells me that they’re going about it all wrong.

    Now, if only they could devise a system to check for unregistered and unknown ones.

    how many firearms offenses in Vic over the last fortnight?

  231. DrBeauGan

    Watershed premium wines
    Voyager Estate,
    Brookland Valley,
    Vasse Felix,
    McHenry Hohnen.

    Voyager and Vasse Felix had some good stuff. I bought two bottles at each of them. Chenin at Voyager, plonk de plonk at VF.

    Today I am going to try to find Forrester and, on the advice of Spiky, Woodlands and Heydon.

  232. MatrixTransform

    telstra dns not resolving zerohedge?

    I wonder why

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