Wednesday Forum: March 20, 2019

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  1. Old School Conservative

    Koch lost all of his “social licence” when even the SMH reported negatively about his “crass joke on-air about the former Prime Minister’s wife in 2004.”

    Now he is on record as a partner in a two-man anti woman bullying team.
    Not that the anti-conservative viewers would mind.

  2. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Appropriately, one of the main reasons that the Brits voted for Brexit is they are shitted to tears at having Eurocrat Daleks tell them what to do and when.
    Just over a week to Hard Brexit.

    Gird your loins, Brits. This is 1940. It’s GO time.
    Where the hell is Churchill?

  3. Numbers, thank you for donning the uniform of our country.
    Now, could you put Vietnam behind you and move on with your life?

    I have done so in spades, but there are random trolls posting here who routinely use my service as a form of abuse. I am simply following the advice freely given by the webmaster about dealing with them.

    It’s pretty simple really, refrain from ad hom abuse based on my service, and you won’t have to put up with my posting about it.

  4. Percy Popinjay

    his profuse sweating

    Nervousness about his dishonesty being exposed. Dead giveaway. I’ve seen people sweat like that in job interviews and it is not a good look.

  5. Knuckle Dragger

    Bob. Serious question now.

    Is it lonely, all the way up there on your cross?

  6. Ellen of Tasmania

    Some amazing people on the Cat.
    Looks like you’ve got the answer to a happy retirement, Pedro.

    Indeed. Hope you have a bevy of grandkids to share it all with, Pedro. Learning at its best.

  7. Bruce of Newcastle

    Numbers – If you move to Russia you can learn to fire a machine gun!

    Putin’s youth army plans to teach ONE MILLION children how to use machine guns

    THOUSANDS of Russian orphans as young as eight are to be drafted into Vladimir Putin’s youth army and taught how to use machine guns and throw hand grenades.

    The Russian President is planning a rapid expansion of his Yunarmia as he hopes to amass one million young recruits ahead of next year’s 75th anniversary commemorations of the end of World War 2. However critics have slammed the conscription of boys and girls as “immoral” and resembling the Hitler Youth programme. The move coincides with a senior Russian military official’s outburst that children in Russia have become “afraid of machine guns” since the fall of the Soviet Union, a development which he declared as not “normal”.

    If you are worried about your age you can just identify as a teenager from Finland and he’ll let you in.

  8. Old School Conservative

    What a great start to today!

    Drove past an anti-Abbott demo and had time to wind down the window, give them the thumbs down and boo them loudly.

    Leaving a cafe after a very nice brekky, stood aside to let a young lady through the door first. She smiled nicely and said “thank you”.

    Got home and went straight to Tom’s ‘toons.

    The rest of the day will be a great one.

  9. Andreas

    I also notice the media aren’t lining up to condemn Erdogan’s comments like they would an Abbott or Trump etc if they strayed off the media script.

    The left agree with Erdogan’s comments, they want Muslims to kill critics of Islam. I’ve seen a bunch of them nodding in agreement that a Muslim should kill Trump and Hanson.

    The left know exactly what Islam is and hope to use it to destroy what they hate. Any collateral damage along the way is too bad.

  10. OldOzzie

    Tom,

    Thanks – Chip “Roy” Taylor gets my vote today because that is how I feel about the selection I have to vote for in Manly in NSW Legislative Assembly on the coming Saturday

    Have printed out the Ballot Form for Legislative Assembly and have worked out least obnoxious way to completely number and have also printed out Legislative Council Tablecloth and doing test run numbering totally below the Line

  11. Old School Conservative

    Black Ball
    #2965380, posted on March 21, 2019 at 2:06 am
    Now Hurley is homosexual

    Nooooooo!

  12. Interesting 1999 parliamentary briefing about conscription and the Timor deployment.

    An extract referring to the CMF –

    It was also possible to gain exemption by joining the then Citizen Military Forces (CMF), now known as the Army Reserve. In practice this latter exemption had the unfortunate effect of filling up the Reserve with thousands of reluctant members primarily interested in evading fulltime military service and the possibility of being sent to Vietnam. This resulted in considerable dilution of the Army Reserve’s quality.

    Conscription can now only be introduced in time of war, and with the consent of both houses.

    There is no reference to gender, but age is between 18 and 60.

  13. Leigh Lowe

    I see Hanoi Bob is still re-living past glories in the 101st Spud Peeling Brigade, far, far behind enemy lines.
    (The enemy being the South, of course).

  14. calli

    Not that Hurley! 🤣

    Your day remains unscathed.

  15. OldOzzie

    Property market ‘running scared’ of Labor’s negative gearing tax plan

    By Mackenzie Scott and Turi Condon

    Federal Labor’s proposed windback of negative gearing tax breaks would cause already nervous investors to desert the property market, sending prices falling further in most cities between next year and 2022, new econo­mic modelling shows.

    In a best-case scenario from SQM Research, housing prices will drop a further 4-8 per cent over a three-year period from 2020 to 2022, assuming an interest-rate cut of 50 basis points by early January next year.

    Property sales turnover is predicted to fall another 8 per cent to 15 per cent by 2022 from 2019 levels with most of the declines in sales to occur in the 2020 calendar year, causing a flow-on effect to state and territory governments with an aggregate fall in state stamp duty revenue of $2.3 billion.

    The negative effect: How Labor’s policy will affect property prices and rent yields.

    SQM has also modelled a harsher scenario in which price falls could reach 15 per cent without an interest rate drop, and one where the current tax break remains untouched.

    If there were no change to negative gearing, average capital city prices could rise 8-14 per cent over the three years.

    Managing director of SQM Research, Louis Christopher, said the windback of negative gearing was needed in the long term, but should be implemented slowly as part of wider property tax reform.

    How Labor’s policy will affect property prices and rent yields.

    “Such a tax change during a housing downturn is, in our opinion, a risky move for the economy and so we encourage discussion of perhaps a phase-in period for such legislation that would reduce the economic shock that this tax change could create,” Mr Christopher said.

    “Once again, (we) strongly encourage Labor to consider some of the investor issues, particularly surrounding the distortion their policy may create on pricing of off-the-plan developments and the likely losses investors in those properties would face come resale time to those who won’t have the tax concession.”

    Labor said modelling that suggests the reforms will see the market drop were unfounded, with shadow treasurer Chris Bowen calling it one in a “parade of shonky property reports”.

    Labor first announced its changes to negative gearing at the peak of the market to improve housing affordability. Only newly built properties would be allowed to be negatively geared under the changes, with the tax break to be grandfathered for existing properties. Capital gains tax would also be halved.

    Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said the policy would be a lose-lose situation, particularly when the market is falling, with the policy most likely to affect mum-and-dad investors. “Labor’s idea of fairness is not only to discourage hardworking Australians to save, but to punish those that do.”

    He also criticised Labor for not naming a start date for their policy, fuelling more market uncertainty.

    The government said investors could see average net rental losses across several electorates, ranging from $8500 in a key Labor seat to $13,300 in the Treasurer’s seat of Kooyong, based on tax office figures from 2016-17.

    Under its first scenario, SQM found that Sydney’s housing prices could drop 7-12 per cent over the three years, Melbourne’s prices fall 8-13 per cent, Brisbane’s prices could rise 2 per cent with the possibility of a 3 per cent drop over the period, Adelaide could be up 2 per cent to a fall of 2 per cent, while Hobart could see a rise of 3 per cent to a drop of 5 per cent. Perth faced a brighter future with prices rising 3-10 per cent.

  16. John Constantine

    Wynynsys against raape in war.

    Used to vandalise Gallipoli memorials to make political statements.

    (The need to bring back Isis raapers to Australia after the fall of the caliphate has silenced this group, so we see which herd is a more useful weapon for their left right now.)

    Gallipoli memorials will be targeted like Civil War memorials as Big Australia dilutes into insignificance those with family links to the Dardanelles campaign.

    (Or Big Australia outnumbers old Australia with revolutionary military age freedom fighters from the caliphate.)

    Comrades.

  17. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2965483, posted on March 21, 2019 at 8:51 am

    Yes! And he created the AIF!
    As CEW Bean recorded

    ” Such were the vague notions entertained at this early stage concerning the main expeditionary army which Australia set out to create. A second expeditionary force, smaller and quite distinct, was being raised at the same time, in order to comply with a request of the British Government for the seizure of German possessions and wireless stations in the Pacific. This force, whose establishment came under the new Chief of the General Staff, Colonel J. G. Legge, and which sailed on August rgth, was known as the Australian Naval and Military Expeditionary Force. The history of that expedition is told in another volume. It was necessary to give the main force a name to distinguish it from the smaller one, and at one of the earliest meetings with his new staff General Bridges asked for suggestions. About a dozen titles were put forward by various officers.
    “Too long!’’ said the General bluntly to some of these proposals. He would not on any consideration have the title “expeditionary.” “It’s not an expedition.” he said. “I want a name that will sound well when they call us by our initials. That’s how they’ll speak of us. We don’t want to be called the ‘B.L.U.F.’!” “Australian Imperial Force” was his own suggestion, and, like most strong men. he adopted his own proposal in the end. Though the day when every military institution was called by its initials-as happened during the warhad not yet arrived, he was perfectly right in his forecast. It was by the letters “A.I.F.” that the Australian Imperial Force became known throughout the Empire”

  18. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    his profuse sweating
    Nervousness about his dishonesty being exposed. Dead giveaway. I’ve seen people sweat like that in job interviews and it is not a good look.

    Could just be his shirt. Hairy once had a new shirt for a VIP’s wedding, and it was dreadful, an Italian material that looked good, like a twill, but turned out to be based on greenhouse principles – he sweated his way through the church service and the reception. We tossed it to charity in a most uncharitable move, for the deserving poor certainly didn’t deserve this.

    On the other hand, drawing on today’s ‘character assessment’ meme, Daley’s shirt may have been fine, and your assessment of his sweat-exposed trickiness spot on, Percy.

  19. Percy Popinjay

    that is how I feel about the selection I have to vote for in Manly in NSW Legislative Assembly on the coming Saturday

    Four candidates in my seat and not one worth voting for. I’ll be adding a fifth box, labeling it “None of the above” and writing a “1” in that.

  20. Johno

    “It’s pretty simple really, refrain from ad hom abuse based on my service, and you won’t have to put up with my posting about it.”

    HaHaHa!! You really are a silly old spud peeler. Sniffy, SVN is the only thing in your mediocre existence that in any way stands out in a life of complete mediocrity.

  21. OldOzzie

    An autocrat’s dangerous words insult and divide

    – The Australian Editorial

    The founder of modern Turkey, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, was a visionary and a reformer as well as an autocrat and a warrior. As a youthful commander, he was the scourge of the Anzacs at Gallipoli. At the Kemal Ataturk Memorial in Canberra, there’s an inscription attributed to the brilliant soldier that has defined the enduring and close bond between one-time enemies: “Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives … You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours … You, the mothers who sent their sons from faraway countries, wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.”

    Today another Turkish autocrat is in power, but his words do not seek to heal or unite. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has vowed to send “anti-Muslim Australians” back in coffins “like their grandfathers”. Mr Erdogan is campaigning in local elections in the northwestern province of Canakkale, home to the historic battlefields, and has used last Friday’s massacres at two mosques in Christchurch to whip up nationalist and religious sentiments. “The enemies of Muslims have shown that they continue to hate us. They are testing us from 16,500km away,” Mr Erdogan said. He may be using the tragedy of 50 Muslims killed by a right-wing Australian extremist for base politicking. But security experts warn his remarks are provocative, mimic Islamist firebrands and could lead to a spiral of extremist reprisals.

    Australian leaders promptly pushed back, but with restraint. Scott Morrison demanded an apology from Turkey and dismissed the lame excuses served up by its envoy to Canberra. The Prime Minister said the remarks were an insult to the memory of our Anzacs. Bill Shorten described the Turkish leader’s comments as foolish, offensive and playing into the hands of those who seek to divide. “They do not protect the peace and security of any nation,” the Opposition Leader said. Mr Morrison is not inflaming the diplomatic crisis but he must send a strong message so Turkey is aware of the consequences of imperilling the safety of Australians and New Zealanders. Each year, thousands of pilgrims visit the Gallipoli peninsula in the northern spring to commemorate Anzac Day. Many are already in Turkey; some will now leave that country immediately, while others will postpone their travel to the region until the temperature subsides.

    Turkey has long been regarded as a model of stable and prosperous Muslim democracy, a vital ally for the West in the fight against Islamist extremism. Yet the country is in deep recession. Mr Erdogan has been a malign force for repression and illiberalism. After the attempted coup in July 2016, the President embarked on a program of heavy-handed repression against his perceived political rivals; 150,000 people were jailed. Mr Erdogan has made anti-Semitic statements and has a talent for antagonising Western allies, especially the US. He colludes with Putin’s Russia, Assad’s Syria and the terrorist-sponsoring Iranian regime. That is the context for this desperate and divisive tirade.

    In calibrating a response to such verbal recklessness, Mr Morrison declared “all options were on the table”. The government must ensure it does not escalate the crisis but protects our people, our interests and our heritage. Although they were bitter enemies in 1915 — who didn’t much bother about taking prisoners in the first weeks of the campaign — Australia and Turkey have ended up as friends. It is, as the late Les Carlyon describes in Gallipoli, one of the “peculiar” things about the Anzac tradition, or myth or legend. “They laugh with each other and share a dry sense of humour,” Carlyon wrote of the bond. “Their war, they feel, had honour; there is no incident that festers, no Burma-Thailand Railway, no Babi-Yar, hardly a dead civilian. It was a soldiers’ war.” We are reconciled peoples. Political leaders come and go, but only unifiers, peacemakers and reformers are truly revered or worth remembering. We don’t want any more blood spilled, funerals or tears. No more incidents, feuds or wounds that fester. The slaughter in Christchurch should be an end, not a beginning.

  22. OldOzzie

    Percy Popinjay
    #2965508, posted on March 21, 2019 at 9:17 am

    that is how I feel about the selection I have to vote for in Manly in NSW Legislative Assembly on the coming Saturday

    Four candidates in my seat and not one worth voting for. I’ll be adding a fifth box, labeling it “None of the above” and writing a “1” in that.

    I believe, and happy to be corrected, that that invalidates the Ballot – just write down the Ballot outside the numbered squares – “None of these Candidates are worth voting for” – don’t waste your vote

  23. stackja

    Percy Popinjay
    #2965508, posted on March 21, 2019 at 9:17 am

    Darby, Evelyn Douglas (1910–1985)
    by Peter Henderson
    This article was published in Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 17, (MUP), 2007

    After losing preselection for Manly in 1961, he resigned from the party. He successfully contested the seat in the 1962 and 1965 elections as an Independent, and was readmitted to the party in August 1966. The split was at times bitter and Darby did not advance past the back-bench when he returned, although he continued to represent Manly until he retired in 1978.

    My electorate of Lane Cove has such an independent.

  24. C.L.

    A British woman may be jailed for calling a man in a dress a man.

    Police Question UK Journalist for ‘Misgendering’ a Transgender Woman.

    “Had a message from Guildford police tonight about my tweets following an appearance on [‘Good Morning Britain’] with Susie Green and Piers Morgan,” Farrow said in a tweet. “Susie Green has reported me for misgendering her daughter.”

    Guildford is a town in Surrey, England, about 25 miles southwest of London. Morgan is one of the hosts of “Good Morning Britain,” a television show on the ITV network that originates from London.

    A Catholic journalist in the United Kingdom faces legal trouble and potential jail time for “misgendering” a 25-year-old transgender woman.

    Caroline Farrow, the journalist, said Monday that the mother of the transgender woman had reported her for the offense.

    “Had a message from Guildford police tonight about my tweets following an appearance on [‘Good Morning Britain’] with Susie Green and Piers Morgan,” Farrow said in a tweet. “Susie Green has reported me for misgendering her daughter.”

    Guildford is a town in Surrey, England, about 25 miles southwest of London. Morgan is one of the hosts of “Good Morning Britain,” a television show on the ITV network that originates from London.

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    Farrow, a broadcaster, media commentator, and public speaker who has appeared on BBC and Sky News, said that all she was told by police after she went on “Good Morning Britain” in September is that she “made some tweets misgendering Susie Green’s child and that I need to attend a taped interview.”

  25. C.L.

    His profuse sweating reminded me of the stories surrounding Nixon’s poor performance against JFK in the first televised presidential debate in American history, including his sweating under the TV lights.

    Nixon was badly ill with the ‘flu.
    Kennedy was heavily medicated with cortisone.

  26. dover_beach

    You know where the real “white supremacism” is? Stay with me

    It’s clear from the last few days that what is meant by ‘white supremacism’ is anything or anybody that promotes our Western intellectual and moral patrimony. See, you can attack anyone that defends or promotes Virgil or Shakespeare, Aristotle or Aquinas, Michelangelo or Rembrandt, Allegri or Bach, Gothic or Palladio, and so on, as effectively ‘white supremacists’. It’s the dead white males of the 90s ‘culture of complaint’ taken to eleventy and with the added benefit of potentially being able to silence them with hate speech laws, deplatform them on social media, and so on, because they are, purportedly, ‘racists’.

  27. OldOzzie

    Polar Bear Populations Booming

    Liberals apparently chose the polar bear as a poster child for global warming because the bears are considered cute, although no one who had a close encounter with a polar bear would describe it that way. Why global warming would be harmful to polar bears was never persuasively explained, nor was there any explanation of how the bears had survived many climatic changes over hundreds of thousands of years. In any event, it’s time to call the whole thing off. Polar bears are thriving:

    Polar bear numbers could easily exceed 40,000, up from a low point of 10,000 or fewer in the 1960s.

    In The Polar Bear Catastrophe that Never Happened, a book published today by the Global Warming Policy Foundation, Dr Susan Crockford uses the latest data as well as revisiting some of the absurd values used in official estimates, and concludes that polar bears are actually thriving:

  28. John Constantine

    Erdogan controls his own mosques in Australia.

    Supplies the manpower to run them from his loyalists, supplies the narrative to be indoctrinated.

    Has spies monitoring the Turkish diaspora in Australia for compliance.

    Deport erdogan spies and propaganda agents.

    Halt remittance payments from Australia to Turkey, extortion sanctioned by the bankrupt erdogan caliphate is bad, okay.

    Comrades.

  29. DrBeauGan

    Farrow, a broadcaster, media commentator, and public speaker who has appeared on BBC and Sky News, said that all she was told by police after she went on “Good Morning Britain” in September is that she “made some tweets misgendering Susie Green’s child and that I need to attend a taped interview.”

    So not going along with a man pretending to be a woman is now a crime in the UK? God help us all.

  30. OldOzzie

    Kellyanne Conway defends Trump after he attacked her husband

    ‘You think he should just take that sitting down?’ she says about Trump after George Conway questioned his mental fitness.

  31. John Constantine

    Hit erdogan in his pocket.

    Tell the erdogan caliphate upfront that if any harm comes to Australians at Gallipoli, remittance payments from Australia to Turkey stop as dead as the murdered Aussie’s.

    Bet that stops the problem.

    It is always the money with these tyrannical dystopia arseholes.

    Comrades.

  32. Johno

    Sniffy, You would not have been “passed A1” . You would have been either FE or CZE.

    Please match the terminology with your propaganda.

  33. Geriatric Mayfly

    Turkey threat ‘taken out of context’ The Oz
    Keysar Trad comes to Erdogan’s rescue.

  34. DrBeauGan

    It’s clear from the last few days that what is meant by ‘white supremacism’ is anything or anybody that promotes our Western intellectual and moral patrimony. See, you can attack anyone that defends or promotes Virgil or Shakespeare, Aristotle or Aquinas, Michelangelo or Rembrandt, Allegri or Bach, Gothic or Palladio, and so on, as effectively ‘white supremacists’. It’s the dead white males of the 90s ‘culture of complaint’ taken to eleventy and with the added benefit of potentially being able to silence them with hate speech laws, deplatform them on social media, and so on, because they are, purportedly, ‘racists’.

    That makes me a white supremacist. I wouldn’t have described myself that way, I suppose I’ve felt that the enormous superiority of Western Civilisation too obvious to need pointing out. Also, I see nothing particularly white skinned about it except historically, I don’t give a damn about the ethnicity of a Westerner. Also, there are also plenty of white skinned people with no claim to be members of my civilisation, indeed, who hate it. Still, if those haters want to label me as a white supremacist, I don’t mind. As long as it doesn’t mislead non-white skinned people into thinking I look down on them.

    I suppose that’s the objective. On the whole, I prefer the term pro-westerner, it describes lots of thoughtful people of every ethnicity.

  35. struth

    Mr Erdogan said. He may be using the tragedy of 50 Muslims killed by a right-wing Australian extremist for base politicking.

    Strange isn’t it?

    In England the police will arrest you for “misgendering”

    In Australia, a major media outlet can call a self confessed communist a right wing terrorist and that’s tickety boo.

    We see more of it used now, as the days after the manifesto banning mean the propaganda is now in full swing.
    A right winger should sue the pricks, honestly.
    You’d have a great case.
    There you go Bernardi, stand for something and fight.
    If you take this narrative on, and you can, and you can win, you will have the western media trying to destroy you so badly, you’ll be able to Trump your way to being a household name, and your party will have trouble coping with it’s massive growth and expansion.

    Go on Bernardi, I dares you.
    Remember, on this issue, when all is said and done, the truth is on your side and if you don’t fight this false narrative, you may as well roll over and fade into oblivion.
    If we let another eco socialist/ communist murdering type be branded right wing, we deserve all that is coming.
    If they get away with this, right now, and the language and calls for the banning of right wing sites etc, is growing daily, we’re doomed.
    Our countries and our children’s future is doomed.
    This has to be repudiated, and their foulness and lies must be retaliated.
    All here at the cat, I believe should be doing their bit with a letter to your liberal party member, or just a simple note to Bernardi stating that with absolutely no proof except to the contrary, the left MSM and Authoritarian politicians have decided to call the NZ terror attack right wing.
    Mr Bernardi, what do you intend to do about it?

  36. struth

    SNIFFY McZOMBIELEFT, do you denounce all those on the left calling the NZ shooter right wing?
    If not, why not?

  37. hzhousewife

    Thanks for that link OldOzzie, I’m off to vote this morning and having the form helps a lot. I very much enjoyed the debate last night, and the later chat Paul Murray had with Leyonhjelm, Latham and Borjak. Why do they all turn into loons in Parliament, they all seem reasonable people outside of it.

  38. JC

    OldOzzie
    #2965526, posted on March 21, 2019 at 9:39 am

    Kellyanne Conway defends Trump after he attacked her husband

    ‘You think he should just take that sitting down?’ she says about Trump after George Conway questioned his mental fitness.

    This whole Conway thing is so off the charts insane. No scriptwriter could ever come up with this.

  39. dover_beach

    What the Left is attempting to make verboten is truthtelling.

  40. Snoopy

    In any event, it’s time to call the whole thing off. Polar bears are thriving:

    No. There may be more but they’re unhappy and thinner.

  41. Overburdened

    None of my business, but I reckon Ergodan was playing to his domestic audience with his statements. It is perennial election time in Turkey after all.

    kaysertrad is a pos who has made a good living out of propagating uncertainty to a cowed population.

    More importantly, the Seaweed Apocalypse is subsiding, as all crises do in time.
    The winners in this ecological disaster, evidently brought on by your reckless boiling of kettles and other such anti planet survival activities, have been the seabirds.
    I have not seen such vast flocks of birds here, particularly the seagulls.
    It has made it difficult to spot my pet seagull amongst the moving throng…oh there he is…maybe.
    After around 50 years of him being my pet, he still won’t sit on my finger, but hey I don’t feed him either so fairs fair.

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    That makes me a white supremacist.

    No, just a mass murderer.
    Slate: NZ Shootings ‘Implicate All White Australians’ (20 Mar)

  43. Please match the terminology with your propaganda.

    I’ll use whatever terminology I please.

    On the topic of propaganda (also known as euphemism) –

    National Service and “Callup” were euphemisms for conscription.
    That particular C word was not politically correct at the time.
    Also “liability to serve”* was used in official correspondence.
    There was propaganda saying all Nashos were “volunteers” until Mark Dapin busted that egregious myth. It persisted until last year on the ANZAC Day Commemoration Committee website.
    Anything I post pales into insignificance compared with the propaganda that was around in the day, and persists here amongst other places, including the MSM.

    *The “liability to serve” terminology was used in the letter notifying me of callup. I often wonder whether the author of the term ever studied logic.

    I kid you not……

  44. struth

    Get on to Bernardi, Peter Castieu, the hour really is upon us.

    Oh how the dumb lefties mocked us and sneered here on catallaxy for even suggesting a socialist who called himself a socialist and acted like a socialist was actually a socialist.

    Now SNIFFY Mc FUKSCHTIK won’t go near it, can’t defend his position, and has been shown not to really have a clue about it running in his empty zombie chanting head.

    It’s too easy, but it must be done, Mr Bernardi, also Mr Anning can get onto it as well.
    I’d suggest other politicians should as well but I can’t think of any other right wing ones, can you?

    We here at catallaxy have shown you the way to silence their evil bullshit and put the violent racism firmly where it belongs, on the collectivist left.

    Go to it boys………………………………………………………………………………………………..crickets.

  45. Overburdened

    In the meantime it seems that shit heads dishing up intellectually barren commentary on television can easily be avoided by not turning on the tele.
    The fact that these clowns are so well heeled and apparently influential in the minds of people who watch them says a lot about the society.

    Also picking up on a remark that in the old days he would have been called outside and bashed up or something, in my experience there is none of this let’s go outside bullshit amongst serious players.

  46. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I believe, and happy to be corrected, that that invalidates the Ballot – just write down the Ballot outside the numbered squares – “None of these Candidates are worth voting for” – don’t waste your vote

    inviting people to vote informal is an offence in oz. australian fascism

  47. Bruce of Newcastle

    The writer of that Slate article has a royally woke CV:

    Rachel Withers is an Australian New Yorker who writes about politics, feminism, and pop culture. Rachel has a Master’s degree in Cultural Reporting and Criticism from New York University and has interned at BUST Magazine, Slate, and Gizmodo Media Group.

    Prior to moving to New York City to focus on journalism, Rachel spent a number of years running university clubs, activities, campaigns, and shenanigans back home at the University of Melbourne, ultimately becoming the first independent president of the University of Melbourne Student Union.

    What on Earth is a Master’s degree in Cultural Reporting and Criticism?

  48. do you denounce all those on the left calling the NZ shooter right wing?
    If not, why not?

    They are absolutely correct.
    But someone who claims Hitler was a socialist couldn’t abide that notion, so I’m unsurprised you can’t deal with it.
    He belonged to that element of the far right best referred to as Harpics – so far gone, that he was clean round the bend. His beliefs and behaviour are eerily similar to Brevik’s – a manifesto/some rudimentary planning/defenceless targets.

    The elements of that behaviour reside here in verbal form – targeting women/people with disabilities/transgendered people/anyone who is vulnerable because of who they are, rather than how they behave.

    The shooter exhibited classic extremist right wing behaviour, the most notable of which is cowardice.

    BTW, you’ve just posted the funniest thing I’ve read in a while – labelling ScoMo as “on the Left”.

    On Catallaxy, any fantasy is possible….

  49. OldOzzie

    NSW Election: Michael Daley stumped on cost of policies during Sky News, Daily Telegraph forum

    Sid Maher NSW Editor – Sascha O’Sullivan Reporter

    Michael Daley has stumbled over his education and TAFE funding commitments, telling a crucial pre-election debate he would “get back to you’’ when he couldn’t say how much Labor’s key policy promises would cost.

    The Opposition Leader, who has been under fire over comments that Asian immigrants are “taking the jobs’’ of young Sydneysiders, was also fuzzy on how much it would cost to refurbish Allianz Stadium, which is currently being demolished and has been a flash point of the election campaign.

    “I don’t know because don’t know what the stadium will look like,’’ Mr Daley said.

    His apparent failure to grasp to detail of key policies handed ­Gladys Berejiklian a clear win in a forum at Western Sydney University on Wednesday night in what was likely their last face-to-face encounter before Saturday’s election.

    An audience of 100 undecided voters decisively handed the debate to the Premier. Fifty said they would vote for the Coalition while 25 said they would vote Labor and 25 remained undecided.

    The debate will hand a campaign boost to the Premier.

    Asked about education spending, Mr Daley said Labor would lift funding from 77 per cent of the Gonski funding model to 100 per cent. But when compare David Speers asked him to name the difference in dollar terms, Mr Daley said: “I can’t remember the exact figure. I’ll have a look at it. I just can’t remember it off the top of my head.’’

    Asked about TAFE funding, Mr Daley again became confused. “It will be, ah, about $3 billion on TAFE.’’

    Ms Berejiklian: “What?”

    Mr Daley: “Let me check that figure.’’

    Speers then asked Mr Daley: “You’re not sure on your education centrepiece, you’re not sure how much you’re spending on schools, and you’re not sure how much more you’re spending on TAFE?’’

    Mr Daley: “I’ll just check that figure and get back to you.’’

    Mr Daley later clarified that Labor would spend $2.7bn of a $7.4bn combined federal-state package over four years to increase public school funding.

    At the Labor launch, Mr Daley announced the $2.7bn boost to public schools and an increase in TAFE funding of $64m.

    Mr Daley started the debate attacking the government’s $70bn privatisation program and ­accusing the government of ­wasting $14bn on projects including the troubled eastern suburbs light rail.

    Mr Daley also accused the government of being “at war with the environment’’ after one million fish died at the Menindee Lakes. He attacked the government as one that “doesn’t listen to people’’.

    Ms Berejiklian plugged the government’s infrastructure program and said she wanted every person to “have the chance to be their best’’, arguing the government was trying to take pressure off households.

    However, she faced complaints from the audience about mental health services in western Sydney and a lack of training places for graduate nurses.

    On the environment, Mr Daley trumped Labor’s solar bonus to get 500,000 solar systems on rooftops.

    He also said he would back students repeating last week’s climate change protest once a year.

    Daley stumble ‘no surprise’

    Gladys Berejiklian said she “wasn’t surprised” that Mr Daley could not recall key education policy cost figures in the debate.

    “I wasn’t surprised because the Labor Party has always lacked detail on the finances,” Ms Berejiklian said on 2GB’s Alan Jones Breakfast show this morning.

    “If you don’t keep an eye on the finances the citizens suffer, that’s why they turned our (Allianz) stadium into a basket-case.”

    “I’ve always been someone who is across my brief and across the detail,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    In response to a question on how the Premier thought she went, Ms Berejiklian replied: “I’ll let others talk about it.”

    “If my government is elected we won’t take NSW backwards,” she said.

  50. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    from above link

    “You might think that this is all too strong, that placing at least some of the blame on white Australia is a kind of self-centered masochism, that blaming a nation’s culture for the sins of a citizen is like blaming humanity for the crimes of one man,” Withers concedes, before saying that it must be done anyway since there is no other option.

    What Ms. Withers may not be considering in her self-righteous screed is that embracing collective guilt by association opens the door to the very sins she seems to detest the most.

    If all “white Australians” are guilty for the crimes of one white Australian, then why aren’t all Muslims responsible for the crimes of Islamic State terrorists? Why aren’t all Jews responsible for the death of Jesus Christ? Why aren’t all blacks responsible for the atrocities of Ugandan dictator Idi Amin? Why aren’t all leftists responsible for the crimes of Nicolás Maduro or Harvey Weinstein? The list could go on forever.

    wahmen continue to prove that universal suffrage was a catastrophic mistake.

  51. Roger

    What on Earth is a Master’s degree in Cultural Reporting and Criticism?

    Two years of hardcore neo-Marxism.

  52. areff

    Halt remittance payments from Australia to Turkey, extortion sanctioned by the bankrupt erdogan caliphate is bad, okay.

    Not until we bring our dead home from Gallipoli. Their graves will be desecrated. Bet on it.

  53. Up The Workers!

    To P at 9.34am:

    Has Cardinal Pell been charged yet by Dodgy Dan’s crack “Get Pell Squad” from Ashton’s Circus, with maliciously starting the flu outbreak?

    They’ll be placing the adverts for all the Leftard Jizzy Smellitt, Stormy Daniels and Christine Blasey Ford-type compo-gougers and self-proclaimed corroborationless “victims” any day now, I expect.

    Facts, corroboration, means, motive and opportunity and evidence, as usual, are merely optional extras in the Crims’ Party-run Mogadishu-by-the-Yarra.

  54. Roger

    NZ PM orders Muslim call to prayer to be broadcast nationally.

    As I have previously noted, she is a very foolish young woman out of her depth.

  55. calli

    Glad to see they picked up on Withers’ intellectual poverty:

    What Ms. Withers may not be considering in her self-righteous screed is that embracing collective guilt by association opens the door to the very sins she seems to detest the most.

    If all “white Australians” are guilty for the crimes of one white Australian, then why aren’t all Muslims responsible for the crimes of Islamic State terrorists? Why aren’t all Jews responsible for the death of Jesus Christ? Why aren’t all blacks responsible for the atrocities of Ugandan dictator Idi Amin? Why aren’t all leftists responsible for the crimes of Nicolás Maduro or Harvey Weinstein? The list could go on forever.

    Silly as a duck.*

    *A Hadleyism. Gotta be good for something.

  56. Johno

    Master’s degree in Cultural Reporting and Criticism.

    Someone is having a lend. Arn’t they?

  57. dover_beach

    What on Earth is a Master’s degree in Cultural Reporting and Criticism?

    Whatever it is, it is a degree only available in Western universities.

  58. calli

    Chortle.

    calli
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    #2965561, posted on March 21, 2019 at 10:25 am
    Glad to see they picked up on Withers’ intellectual poverty:

    What Ms. Withers may not be considering in her self-righteous screed is that embracing collective guilt by association opens the door to the very sins she seems to detest the most.

    If all “white Australians” are guilty for the crimes of one white Australian, then why aren’t all Muslims responsible for the crimes of Islamic State terrorists? Why aren’t all J-ws responsible for the death of Jesus Christ? Why aren’t all blacks responsible for the atrocities of Ugandan dictator Idi Amin? Why aren’t all leftists responsible for the crimes of Nicolás Maduro or Harvey Weinstein? The list could go on forever.

    Silly as a duck.*

    *A Hadleyism. Gotta be good for something.

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  60. calli

    The hotbed of racism that Withers grew up in sounds appalling. Where was it? Tell me more.

    Also, my three year old granddaughter is not responsible for the Christchurch murders. Just for the record.

  61. Johno

    Sniffy, I served in three different battalions in SVN. All three gave their nashos the choice of serving or not.
    I find it passing strange that only your battalion didn’t do this.

    Still you wouldn’t have had anything to whinge about, would you?

  62. Roger

    Leftists have no sense of irony #1982354:

    Cambridge University denies Jordan Peterson a visiting fellowship because it is an “inclusive environment”.

  63. calli

    Knock me down with a feather – Withers was president of Melbourne Uni Student Union.

    Is this where she was exposed to Racial Horror?

  64. hzhousewife

    NZ PM orders Muslim call to prayer to be broadcast nationally.

    As I have previously noted, she is a very foolish young woman out of her depth.

    I suggested to others in the coffee shop queue this morning that it was only right that we should have the call to prayer five times a day every day from now on, because church bells ring out all over Pakistan and Egypt every Sunday, don’t they? I was being sarcastic as usual, but sadly not many of them got it. Truly, I should have wasted my breath.
    Is there not the idea that if you are in hearing range of the muslim call to prayer, then you are automatically a muslim?

  65. C.L.

    Virgil or Shakespeare, Aristotle or Aquinas, Michelangelo or Rembrandt, Allegri or Bach, Gothic or Palladio

    Snoop Dog or 50 Cent …

  66. Roger

    Is there not the idea that if you are in hearing range of the muslim call to prayer, then you are automatically a muslim?

    No, but if you fail to heed it you are a kufar.

  67. Black Ball

    Reading some Facebook posts which I contributed to in regards to Ardern’s hijab wearing appeasement to Islam. As I have no work today, the coffee I am having at present will be replaced by some very strong liquor. One of the replies to my post was that President Erdogan is indeed a conservative. How this person came to this conclusion I am not sure, I asked this person to respond. Won’t hold my breath. FMD.

  68. Eyrie

    Struth,
    Fact is, in the American vernacular, Bernardi is a pussy. Forget him and AC. They will disappear without a trace.
    Got this from what appears to be Bernardi although not signed in reply to some disgusting comments about Fraser Anning by Lyle Shelton and a slightly less dishonest one by Bernardi that arrived in my inbox the last few days:
    “If you suspend common sense, compassion and basic humanity, then making comments of that ilk whilst the bodies were still warm is entirely acceptable.

    I regret that peoples common courtesy and civil society are trampled by emotional outbursts. That is really, really dumb but clearly you disagree with me

    And I probably know Senator Anning better than you. He may be a nice guy but his comments were still inappropriate

    All the best,”

    To which I have replied:

    No, he actually said he deplored the violence but reminded us of who were usually the perpetrators thereof.
    Pretty simple, true and again a reminder of why common sense is losing.
    Where was the Muslim compassion after 9/11? We were treated to TV images of people in the middle east celebrating in the streets that 3000 Americans were dead.

    AC is almost totally unknown. Look what happened to the Australian Liberty Alliance at the last election. Nobody heard of them because they were nice guys and got no media coverage. A few demos outside mosques and there would have been plenty of coverage.

    You need to do a Trump and make the media cover you by saying controversial things or line up a new job post your parliamentary career.

    Frankly I’m over the west being attacked by a bunch of barbarians who get kid glove special treatment, who have been let inside the gates by our political class who have denied their constituents a say via the normal political process and who are now jailing people for sharing information in NZ. How long before this happens in Australia?
    Where is your and AC’s condemnation of this police state thuggery and also where is your condemnation of the physical assault on Fraser Anning and condemnation of the PM and Dutton’s call for Anning to be prosecuted. We now punish victims of assault? Funny really because they are doing EXACTLY what the Christchurch shooter said. To paraphrase, “it’s their fault for being there”. I guess Anning is at fault for merely being there?

    Stick a fork in Australia, it’s done. Pity really. I used to think Argentina was where we would slide to but Venezuela seems more likely now.

    Regards

  69. Sniffy, I served in three different battalions in SVN. All three gave their nashos the choice of serving or not.

    If this is true, all three of them were in breach of the National Service Act.

  70. C.L.

    Apparently an AWFL star copped some online mockery for an unladylike action pic and now wants protection at games (because the culprits are really likely to attend an AWFL match) and the AFL wants to work with security experts to identify the mockers.

  71. Johno

    “If this is true, all three of them were in breach of the National Service Act.”

    That it?. That all you have? Nong.

  72. P

    Up The Workers!
    #2965558, posted on March 21, 2019 at 10:22 am

    “In the meantime, Cardinal Pell is in a solitary confinement jail cell prevented from celebrating Mass, as he enters in the Passion of the Lord and helps lead the reparation of the Church for the sins of clerical sexual abuse, even though he is as guilty of those sins as Jesus was of blasphemy and sedition.”
    http://www.ncregister.com/blog/fatherlandry/cardinals

  73. lotocoti

    Whatever it is, it is a degree only available in Western universities.

    Also available through eBay.com.ng.

  74. Black Ball

    That would be Tayla Harris. Very attractive woman CL. Also very stupid.
    https://youtu.be/WrzV_6dLl1Y

  75. hzhousewife

    Is there not the idea that if you are in hearing range of the muslim call to prayer, then you are automatically a muslim?

    No, but if you fail to heed it you are a kufar.

    Thank you Roger.

  76. notafan

    Dozens of Victorian prisoners have been diagnosed with the flu or “flu-like symptoms” as health authorities warn an outbreak has affected more than 3,400 people across the state.

    A corrections source told the ABC convicted child sex offender Cardinal George Pell was among those taken to hospital, but the Victorian Department of Justice said that was not the case.

    A spokesman for the department said Pell, 77, had been tested for the flu in the Melbourne Assessment Prison, but did not have the virus.

    Asked about Pell on ABC Radio Melbourne, Corrections Commissioner Emma Cassar said she could not comment on individual prisoners.

  77. Eyrie

    calli, the spitting image of a very competent young female mechanical engineer I know.

  78. Not Uh oh

    Johno
    #2965570, posted on March 21, 2019 at 10:37 am
    Sniffy, I served in three different battalions in SVN.

    For crying out loud Johno, it was nearly fifty years ago; you need to get over it.

  79. twostix

    Some things I’ve seen with my own eyes over the last few days:

    – There is a true blue bolshevik inspired wing in anglosphere politics that absolutely with all its heart does want to imprison, silence and kill anyone to the right of Malcolm Turnbull (who will get the Romanov treatment). They are absolute maniacs, I’d say they make up about 10% of the population and have decided that now is the time to move.

    – The NZ thing is simply not resonating with people the way the establishment wants it too. I’ve heard more real talk about muzzies in the last few days than ever before. The everyman’s heart has hardened, he laments violent bloodshed in all forms…but.

    – It’s easy to win public exchanges with the emboldened far left cranks by simply staying calm and bemused at their crazy antics and ideas. Remember that under the skin of every leftwing goon is a seething cauldron of personal inadequacy, hypocrisy, vast conspiracy theories, hatred of the Australian everyman and astounding ignorance. He wants to imprison and terrorsie most liberal and many labor voters. Use this.

    – On ignorance: years of gorging on Twitter, WAPO, NYTimes and being patronised and flattered by the pop-culture as well as cutting themselves off from the political right have left leftwing goons lazy and ignorant. They are ignorant of politics, history and world affairs and are easily blindsided by a real life opponent. They know all about political narratives (like a soap opera fan) but nothing about the mechanics of politics, and world affairs and the who the why and the where. Ask about what they know about the situation in the Phillipines and how that works in with their liberal voters are neo-nazis / muslim are a race angle. They are embarrassable.

  80. Roger

    Is there not the idea that if you are in hearing range of the muslim call to prayer, then you are automatically a muslim?

    No, but if you fail to heed it you are a kufar.

    In Islam one who fails to heed the call to prayer is revealing by their actions that they see no need to pray to Allah in the manner revealed to Mohammed, one of the pillars of Islam. That is tantamount to calling Mohammed a liar (takdhib in transliterated Arabic). This is one reason why Ardern’s call is very foolish.

  81. calli

    Good and evil twins exist! Thanks Eyrie.

  82. Geriatric Mayfly

    No matter how circuitous, every Muslim outrage from now on will lead back to Christchurch and be given tacit blessing. The ABC will have the route mapped out already.

  83. struth

    Been busy writing letters.

    This one to my favourite show at the moment, Outsiders.

    Hello Rowan, and co

    I love your show, the only show worth watching on television, in my opinion!

    I am a right wing person, which means I believe in freedom of speech, free markets, personal responsibility, democracy, private ownership etc.
    But it also means I’m not a collectivist, but an individualist.
    I take people as I find them, and do not put them into categories or boxes based on physical appearances etc.
    To be a racist, one first must be, a collectivist.
    I am appalled at what the left wing MSM media and our political elite have done with the tragedy of Christchurch.

    They banned the shooters manifesto and are now calling him a right wing extremist.
    The problem is, the manifesto was on line too quickly and many know the truth, that he stated the exact opposite.
    More closely aligned to communist China and an eco-fascist!

    The left are now using this terrorist attack to close down websites and it won’t help your program at all, even though the right had, like usual, nothing to do with the violence.
    It’s the old Hitler was right wing meme that has been allowed to poison minds.
    Hitler was a socialist, just like the Anti semetic left are today.
    Hitler controlled everything including the means of production, and I always laugh, and always shut lefties up, by asking them what made Hitler right wing in their eyes.
    They always state, without fail, that he allowed private ownership of business.
    They then like to tell me that Norway and European countries they consider socialist, are successful.
    Those countries all have private ownership of business, so which is it?

    Hitler was a white supremacist racist, that is for sure.
    But there is no way on god’s green earth he was a right winger, and he wasn’t known as a right winger throughout and before ww2 .
    Both my grand fathers went to war against a socialist, and that was their words.
    He was your class A, typical left wing racist.
    The race may change, the percentage of racial mix may change, but the lefty must always be in charge of racial mix.

    If we don’t start fighting back against the “National Socialists were right wing propaganda”, we may as well kiss our arses goodbye.

    If you wouldn’t mind, could you at least bring up on your show, the only show with true right wing conviction, the utter disgraceful lies of the left in calling the NZ shooter right wing.
    I feel this is very important.

    I love your work, and best of luck to you guys.

    I never miss a second of your show, it’s the only sanity on television.

    Yours sincerely

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    Apparently an AWFL star copped some online mockery for an unladylike action pic

    Yes. 😀
    ‘Animals’: Here’s the sports photo that’s rocking Australia (via BCF)
    Awesome photo.

  85. hzhousewife

    This is one reason why Ardern’s call is very foolish.

    And are there other simple reasons Roger? This is very interesting information.

  86. The Coalition has demonstrated remarkable gymnastic capacity during the last few weeks –
    1. Immigration levels – although it really doesn’t amount to much.
    2. Welfare reform. They’re not beating up on the unemployed with quite the vehemence we’ve seen recently.
    3. Milo Yiannopoulos can come to Australia but now he can’t.
    4. Since Christchurch, they’re not going to do preference deals with One Nation – maybe.
    5. They’re not going to wipe out mortgage brokers even though the Royal Commission said they should.
    Amazing…

  87. Muddy

    Eyrie
    #2965578, posted on March 21, 2019 at 10:42 am

    Bernardi … Forget him and AC. They will disappear without a trace.

    I’m not sure they will disappear, but I do believe – and have been expressing this for some time – that they will fail to make much of an impact on the political landscape, for the reason that you and others have stated: a lack of public visibility.
    Media attention needs to be demanded, not politely requested. It also does not need to take the form of symbolic stunts or novelties. Consider what the Malignant Media would get themselves all wet about. Political internecine conflict perhaps? Publicly differentiate yourselves from the Lieboral Party (forget them: they have nothing to offer you, and people who vote for you have done so because they did not want the fauxcon establishment zombies). Burn your bridges with them if any still exist. Declare publicly that the Lieborals have nothing to offer. Present yourselves as a strong, committed, alternative. It is one thing to not want to build a party around a personality, however what many of us are seeking is leadership. We respect a strong leader. There is no room in everyday politics for skulking in the corner and refusing to make eye contact. Step up to the biggest, ugliest bastard in the room, and tell them firmly that they and their mates have ten seconds to leave, because that room is yours now. Sure, it may not work, and you may get flattened, but I personally would respect you for showing courage.

  88. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Utter madness: University of Sydney researchers push to give plants and animal legal rights slammed

    Jessica Cortis
    Reporter
    @Jess_cortis‏
    An hour ago March 21, 2019
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    University of Sydney research probing into the “moral, legal and political status” of animals and the environment has been slammed as “out of touch”, prompting questions over who is funding the study.

    A team of 14 university researchers studying “Multispecies Justice”, claim to explore rights for those that are “more than human” as part of the University of Sydney’s broader FutureFix program they themselves have dubbed as “counterintuitive”, as stated on their website.

    “Justice is typically thought to be the preserve of humans, and advocacy has sought to ensure all humans are subjects of justice,” researchers wrote on the university’s website

    “But harms inflicted on animals and the environment are coming to be understood as injustices.”

    The 14 researchers claim they are working to reconceptualise justice to accommodate “the vast breadth of the multispecies world” in an issue the University deems is of “global importance”, according to the University of Sydney website.

    Institute of Public Affairs Western Civilisation director Dr Bella d’Abrera said the project demonstrated the University was out of touch with real problems faced by Australians.

    From the Oz. Peak stupidity?

  89. twostix

    I had a 20 something pop-leftist ask who Gough Whitlam was the other day. They’d heard the name but couldn’t remember if he was a state premier or what.

    This person though is absolutely certain of how we should abolish our existing society, industry, traditions and ideas and rearrange it completely.

  90. Roger

    And are there other simple reasons Roger? This is very interesting information.

    The other reason, as I see it, hz, is that it is exactly the sort of craven, virtue signalling response Tarrant would have been looking for as an aid to radicalising other socially alienated young white men like him.

  91. Overburdened

    Allan Christensen who gets paid crazy amounts of money to chase the Sherrin has opened up about his fuckwittedly blowing piles of money when punting.
    Naturally, punters only ever blubber about losing and think that one big win somehow makes up for the money they have incrementally blown leading up to the win; and marks a turning point in their fortunes.

    Without footy Christensen would be fully on the taxpayer’s teat or if he was good enough have a menial job.
    This would increase his despair for losing money on gambling while reducing the actual amount wasted.

  92. hzhousewife

    Yup.
    I see it as Ardern pandering to a group who, if you give an inch, they will take a hundred miles. She has just given them an inch.

  93. struth

    Maybe you guys could send shorter letters to Rowan Dean asking that he mention the shooter was not right wing and insisting he was is incitement to violence in your opinion.
    Or something similar.
    You guys are great with using few words to devastate.

    Again proof the left have nothing.
    SNIFFY’S teenage response again here proof.
    They have nothing, the truth is overwhelming.

    They are absolutely correct.
    But someone who claims Hitler was a socialist couldn’t abide that notion, so I’m unsurprised you can’t deal with it.
    He belonged to that element of the far right best referred to as Harpics – so far gone, that he was clean round the bend.

    There you have it, folks.

  94. Cassie of Sydney

    “Muddy
    #2965599, posted on March 21, 2019 at 10:59 am

    Agree. As I wrote last night..the AC have a good product but they seem to be either unwilling or unable to sell it. Voters are crying out for authenticity and particularly for choice.

    I also said that a wee bit of notoriety never hurt anyone. Cory and the party are just too darned nice.

  95. Johno

    “For crying out loud Johno, it was nearly fifty years ago; you need to get over it.”

    That you Sniffy?

  96. Old School Conservative

    Just look at Daily Mail “journalists” as green/labor operatives with a job in media. (h/t Instapundit)

    Will Connolly cracked an egg on the politician’s head during a political meeting in Moorabbin, Melbourne, on Saturday.

    Mr Anning slapped 17-year-old Will Connolly before his right-wing cronies violently held the youngster to the ground.

  97. John Constantine

    Dr Goodfellow maintains animal welfare and live exports are fundamentally incompatible.

    Federal shadow agriculture minister Joel Fitzgibbon has flagged a five-year phase out of the trade if Labor wins the upcoming federal election.

    “The science is telling us that it is just not possible for the sector to continue while also meeting science-based, community expectations on animal welfare,” he said.

    Their shortreich will dynamite the live export industry. Small bites at a time, but our unwavering compliance with signed paris conventions means fifty percent less livestock in australia.

    Don’t top up on those AAC shares because the cattle company looks cheap.

    Comrades.

  98. Muddy

    Cassie of Sydney
    #2965606, posted on March 21, 2019 at 11:08 am

    I believe it is vital that the Australian Conservatives differentiate themselves from the Liberals. Certainly the latter have more resources for an internecine conflict, however if the ACs were smart, they could work it to their advantage by positioning themselves as an alternative. They need to define the Libs as a threat, and work to neutralise that. One of my concerns about voting for and donating to the Australian Conservatives, is that I fear they will make deals with the Libs, and simply because a Liberal splinter party. There is no future in that. The Liberal Party has long been dead, and exists now only as a visual and auditory illusion, and as a nostalgic melancholy in older voters perhaps.

    Be decisive, Mr. Bernardi.

  99. twostix

    I see it as Ardern pandering to a group who, if you give an inch, they will take a hundred miles. She has just given them an inch.

    The political left brought muslims in to be their muscle after they were betrayed by the western working classes during the Regan / Thatcher era. Exposed for the being the runtish dweebs that they are, they always need an uneducated muscular class to do the grunt work.

    That is why muzzies are suddenly here. To be the muscle for the political left who take every opportunity to cement them into place.

  100. Muddy

    ..become a Liberal splinter party, not ‘because.’

  101. Socrates at the Pub;

    The blowback, when it comes, will be brutal.
    There won’t be enough lamp posts.

    We shall be good loyal citizens and re use the lamp posts.
    Recycling, you know.
    Safe da planet.

  102. Top Ender

    Good letter Struth.

    We watch on Sundays. I saw the week night version of Outsiders was on some time back, but I think it’s 1100 so a bit too late.

    Paul Murray Live is OK but a bit repetitive lately, and PM is a bit of a sook sometimes.

  103. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    A team of 14 university researchers studying “Multispecies Justice”, claim to explore rights for those that are “more than human” as part of the University of Sydney’s broader FutureFix program they themselves have dubbed as “counterintuitive”, as stated on their website.

    peak stupid is looking so mild compared to the peak insanity we hurtling towards

  104. Geriatric Mayfly

    For the first time in a decade, kale, Opens a New Window. the popular green leaf cabbage adored by health enthusiasts worldwide, has rejoined the ‘Dirty Dozen’ list of fruits and vegetables with the most pesticide residues.
    Karma

  105. Johno
    #2965607, posted on March 21, 2019 at 11:08 am
    That you Sniffy?

    LOL. I’m Not Uh oh and I’m not Bob. You really are a bit of a boofhead aren’t you?

  106. struth

    The blowback, when it comes, will be brutal.
    There won’t be enough lamp posts.

    There will be no blowback.
    Anyone who has ever lived in places like Alice Springs knows that to be the case.
    Australians will put up with hell before they will retaliate.
    They will build higher fences around their homes and lock themselves inside instead of facing the evil on the street.
    We are not a nation as we once were.

    I only write letters and do things like the convoy so my conscience is clear.
    There are some very good people out there.
    There aren’t enough.
    Australians aren’t Americans.
    They’re not allowed to be and they don’t fight to change things until they are.

    I may be surprised, but I wouldn’t put my money on it.

  107. thefrollickingmole

    Greenies, unable to convince people they should live in mud huts, turn to the wise fools of the legal system instead.

    US judge halts hundreds of drilling projects in groundbreaking climate change ruling
    In a rebuke of the Trump administration’s ‘energy-first’ agenda, a judge rules greenhouse gas emissions must be considered

    The decision stems from an environmental lawsuit. WildEarth Guardians, Physicians for Social Responsibility, and the Western Environmental Law Center sued the BLM in 2016 for failing to calculate and limit the amount of greenhouse gas emissions from future oil and gas projects.

    The agency “did not adequately quantify the climate change impacts of oil and gas leasing”, said Rudolph Contreras, a US district judge in Washington DC, in a ruling late on Tuesday. He added that the agency “must consider the cumulative impact of GHG [greenhouse gas] emissions” generated by past, present and future BLM leases across the country.

    Each of those organisations must be attacked in vicious lawsuits designed to bankrupt the individuals behind them. They are anti-human luddites.

  108. Roger

    This person though is absolutely certain of how we should abolish our existing society, industry, traditions and ideas and rearrange it completely.

    Give people the vote without requiring anything of them in return except to stay out of prison and the mental hospital and they come to imagine that the opinions they’ve rented out from journalists are infallible.

  109. 1735099

    For crying out loud, Johno, that was nearly fifty years ago. You need to get over it.

    Noted.
    There are a (very) few posting here who recognise hypocrisy when they see it.

  110. notafan

    For crying out loud, Johno, that was nearly fifty years ago. You need to get over it.

    Wasn’t that a sarc post?

  111. 1735099

    You really are a bit of a boofhead head, aren’t you?

    Liberty quote.

  112. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Viktor Orban’s Right-wing Fidesz party was on Wednesday suspended from the European People’s Party group amid fears Hungary’s strongman leader was trampling on the rule of law and indulging in gratuitous Brussels-bashing.

    Mr Orban, renowned for his anti-EU and anti-migration posturing, was present for the day long discussions over disciplinary measures, which could have included expulsion of Fidesz’ 12 MEPs from the group.

    The centre-right EPP is the largest group in the European Parliament and counts Angela Merkel, Jean-Claude Juncker and Donald Tusk among its members.

  113. thefrollickingmole

    Is mirror boy back here to admire his own reflection again?

    Numbers: Loves big government and it using its coercive powers to force people to comply.

    Also numbers: hates big government for putting him in uniform and coercing him to comply.

    50 years and he hasnt learnt one single fucking thing about why limiting government control over people is a good thing, except in his own personal case which he fails to connect…

    Its a special type of deliberate ignorance.

  114. twostix

    they come to imagine that the opinions they’ve rented out from journalists are infallible.

    The question is who do the journalists – as dumb as a bag of rocks – rent their opinions from?

  115. Roger

    The question is who do the journalists – as dumb as a bag of rocks – rent their opinions from?

    To start with, their lecturers, veterans of the “long march”.

  116. struth

    Ladies, by the way, my comments regarding the disgusting display by Jacintaminda , who at the start, you thought was doing the right thing donning a subservient symbol to Islam, as a subservient woman, now has been pushed by displaying such anti western subservience to play the call to prayer across the nation.

    They take an inch……………………..

    Civilisational ignorance and a female tendency to admire superficial displays got you this time, and I’m not being nasty about it, I just want you to understand why we men lament the feminisation of the west.
    You have been protected by hard men this whole time, and believe we can afford for you to virtue signal your approval of her Hijab stunt.

    We can’t.

    I’m not saying Sco Mo is much better by the way, but do you ladies wonder at all, what his reaction might be, if he didn’t have to worry about females voting, on a range of issues.

    Yes, I’m the mongrel, blah blah.
    So be it.

  117. struth

    The centre-right EPP is the largest group in the European Parliament and counts Angela Merkel, Jean-Claude Juncker and Donald Tusk among its members.

    Centre right???

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaa cough, ………hahahahahahahahahahahahaha splutter, hahahahahahahahahaha…oh,……………….oh no… change jocks

  118. bundyrum

    I bet ch 7 plays the muslim call to pray from NZ on their news (hoho) segment tonight.

  119. Black Ball

    You are no mongrel struth. Exactly what I wrote on Facebook with Ardern. Why she took to wearing a hijab and now broadcasting the call to prayer means that she is indeed subservient to Islam at a time when the West is at a precipice. You call it as you see it and who gives a flying fornication if people are offended by it?

  120. Roger

    Ironically, the hijab has historically symbolised the exclusion of women from the public square.

  121. Bruce of Newcastle

    The centre-right EPP is the largest group in the European Parliament and counts Angela Merkel, Jean-Claude Juncker and Donald Tusk among its members.

    No doubt if Marx, Lenin and Trotsky had been MEPs they would’ve joined the centre-right EPP too.

  122. hzhousewife

    struth, REAL women understand you perfectly well. Don’t apologise.

  123. Eyrie

    Struth, at least you’ll be able to say “I told you so”.
    I repeat, Bernardi is a pussy. Doesn’t seem like he’s real busy either.

  124. Geriatric Mayfly

    The discordant Muslim call to prayer blights NZ and the sheep do quiver.

  125. notafan

    Oh stop telling porkies struth

    only support for Cacinda to wear a hijab was for while she was in the mosque which is just a basic courtesy

    like a man removing his hat before he enters a Catholic church

  126. Roger

    Brexit negotiator Guy Verhofstadt launched a furious attack on Donald Trump and British “enemies” who voted to leave the EU.

    Someone draw a funny little moustache on him, please.

  127. Mark A

    notafan
    #2965655, posted on March 21, 2019 at 12:00 pm

    Oh stop telling porkies struth

    only support for Cacinda to wear a hijab was for while she was in the mosque which is just a basic courtesy

    like a man removing his hat before he enters a Catholic church

    Ahhh so, that’s why they look at me funny.

  128. Johno

    You seem very energised this afternoon Sniffy.

    Been reading Comrades RUS have you?

  129. zyconoclast

    Slomo was unavailable for comment

    Unmarried couples are whipped for breaking Sharia law in Indonesia after they were caught either cuddling, holding hands or having s3x

    Five unmarried couples received between four and 22 strokes from a cane outside a mosque in Banda Aceh
    Religious police caught them cuddling and holding hands or, in some cases, having s3x outside marriage
    Hundreds, including children, watched as the masked sharia officer lashed the offenders who winced in pain

  130. one old bruce

    Sorry can’t link:
    Daley on video in Blue Mountains: ‘Asians moving in and taking jobs’
    Lisa Visentin
    Local News
    Labor leader Michael Daley has been captured on video claiming that young people were leaving Sydney and being replaced by foreigners who were “moving in and taking their jobs”.

    In the video, Mr Daley can be seen telling an audience at a pub in the Blue Mountains that a “transformation” was under way in Sydney and young workers were being replaced by Asian immigrants.

    Labor leader Michael Daley has been captured on video claiming that young people were leaving Sydney and being replaced by foreigners who were “moving in and taking their jobs”. Photo: Youtube.
    Labor leader Michael Daley has been captured on video claiming that young people were leaving Sydney and being replaced by foreigners who were “moving in and taking their jobs”. Photo: Youtube.

    “Our young children will flee and who are they being replaced with? They are being replaced by young people from typically Asia with PhDs,” Mr Daley is heard saying in the video, now published on YouTube. “There’s a transformation happening in Sydney now where our kids are moving out and foreigners are moving in and taking their jobs. I don’t want to sound xenophobic, it’s not a xenophobic thing, it’s an economic question.”

    Mr Daley was speaking at a politics-in-the-pub event in Wentworth Falls last September when he was deputy opposition leader. The Gazette did not attend the event. A man in the audience asked Mr Daley to clarify his comments because he was “deeply concerned” by them.

    Mr Daley replied: “It’s just a statement of fact. Our young people are moving out of Sydney because they cannot afford to live here and they are being replaced by international workers.

    “Most of those are from Asia – from China, from Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore. It’s not a bad thing because Asian kids are coming to work here, it’s a bad thing because I’d like my daughter to live in Maroubra rather than St Kilda.”

    A spokesman for Mr Daley said he made the comments in the context of a discussion on “cost of living and housing affordability pressures on young people”.

  131. calli

    gratuitous Brussels-bashing.

    Surely there’s a World Series in the offing?

    It would rate its socks off.

  132. notafan

    Ahhh so, that’s why they look at me funny.

    At Notre Dame in Paris you don’t get in with a a hat they ask men to remove them

  133. Black Ball

    Watching ABC at the local.
    ‘British authorities make a series of racial abuse arrests.’
    No sound emanating from the television but they had the chairman of Muslim associations on. Can only hazard a guess and say that Christchurch has seen an increase in hate speech. I also would take it that Rotherham or Oxford weren’t mentioned.

  134. one old bruce

    Sorry about not editing repetitions.

  135. zyconoclast

    Toyota to build new hybrid cars for Suzuki in Brexit-facing U.K.

    LONDON – Toyota on Wednesday said it will build a new hybrid car in Britain for Japanese peer Suzuki — a welcome boost for the U.K. auto sector which has been hit by Brexit uncertainty.

    Toyota expects production to start in late 2020 at its Welsh plant in Deeside and its factory in Burnaston, central England.

  136. Confused Old Misfit

    like a man removing his hat

    In general a man does not wear a hat indoors.
    Anywhere.
    And it is HIS hat he wears or removes.
    It is not an accessory of another culture that is imposed on him.
    Jacinda Ardern chose to accept the imposition.
    To pay the jizyah.
    I doubt she will get a satisfactory return on her investment.

  137. thefrollickingmole

    Taleb is King…

    If Taleb had udders Beto would write a song to him, true!
    https://medium.com/incerto/on-neo-cons-and-their-mental-defects-d12685585b11
    So we end up populating what we call the intelligentsia with people who are delusional, literally mentally deranged, simply because they never have to pay for the consequences of their actions, repeating modernist slogans stripped of all depth. In general, when you hear someone invoking abstract modernistic notions, you can assume that they got some education (but not enough, or in the wrong discipline) and too little accountability.

    Now some innocent people, Yazidis, Christian minorities, Syrians, Iraqis, and Libyans had to pay a price for the mistakes of these interventionistas currently sitting in their comfortable air-conditioned offices. This, we will see, violates the very notion of justice from its pre-biblical, Babylonian inception. As well as the ethical structure of humanity.

    Not only the principle of healers is first do no harm (primum non nocere), but, we will argue: those who don’t take risks should never be involved in making decisions.

  138. struth

    Oh stop telling porkies struth

    only support for Cacinda to wear a hijab was for while she was in the mosque which is just a basic courtesy

    If that’s the case then she should not have gone in.
    Being a leader of one of the western nations of the world there is much more at stake (as we now see) to her virtue signalling bullshit.
    She of course, like you yet again prove, sufferers from an insulated view of the world supplied by the deaths of thousands of men to supply it, and being completely civilisationally ignorant, doesn’t understand the consequences to follow, from her actions.
    Her first duty is to her western, Christian nation, not to go in being a subordinate woman to men and Islam.
    No matter what happened.

    FMD.

  139. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yes, I’m the mongrel, blah blah.
    So be it.

    No you’re not, Struth. You and Black Balls are OK. We getcha. The Good Guys, who’ve got our back.
    Lots of silly women are easily led. Feelz-R-Us etc. We sort of get them too, we know the feelz.
    Even though we think they are being taken for a politically wrong ride on the basis of lady feelz.

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    To start with, their lecturers, veterans of the “long march”.

    The ‘veterans’ are departing now, but they have left their inheritors; sadly, often even more deluded.

  141. Confused Old Misfit

    Taleb is King…
    So we end up populating what we call the intelligentsia with people who are delusional, literally mentally deranged, simply because they never have to pay for the consequences of their actions, repeating modernist slogans stripped of all depth.

    Oh God is this not so true?

  142. Muddy

    Transferring from another thread:

    LBLoveday
    #2965663, posted on March 21, 2019 at 12:12 pm

    Yesterday in Italy, a Muslim “refugee” immigrant locked 51 children in their school bus and set it alight with the stated intention of, and a realistic probability of, them all being burned to death. All escaped death, in good part because of a mobile phone call to the police who arrived quickly.
    .
    This Muslim is as evil as the Christchurch shooter and his intention basically the same, just less “competent”, but will it even be in tomorrow’s papers or on your ABC, let alone elicit wide condemnation, and if it is, will they even mention that he was Muslim and his targets non-Muslims, as the vast majority of terrorist acts are?

  143. notafan

    COM

    it was an example of a person showing courtesy to people of another faith when entering their house of worship

    I have no intention of going to a mosque but if for some reason I entered a church or temple of another faith I would comply with their religious requirements, how is that an ‘imposition’?

    if you prefer

    I have yet to see a woman attending an audience with the Pope who has failed to wear a veil

    irrespective of her religion

    I can’t believe the hysteria shown here because a political leader showing a modicum of courtesy to a subset of her citizens who have been the target of a terrorist, and some extremely moderate support of what is mere good manners

    As for the rest, including the idiotic call to prayer, what do you expect from a doyen of the progressive set?

    Anyhow the progs in government can indulge in their pointless and empty shows of piety all they like

    as long as they stop muslims from doing what they do best

    Not holding breath

  144. struth

    This Muslim is as evil as the Christchurch shooter and his intention basically the same, just less “competent”,

    As evil?

    They were ALL children, and not one of those kids trained anyone to go fight with ISIS.

    Maybe, Italy being such a Christian place, Muslims or Maybe Jacinta would like to grab hold of some Rosary beads and broadcast the Lord’s Prayer across the nation.

  145. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zali Steggall threatened with defamation proceedings by Advance Australia
    Ben James, Manly Daily
    March 21, 2019 2:00am
    Subscriber only

    The Tony Abbott-supporting Advance Australia group is threatening defamation proceedings against independent Warringah candidate Zali Steggall over comments regarding the doctoring of her Wikipedia page.

    The conservative lobby group has given Ms Steggall until 5pm on Thursday to retract comments the group alleges were “false and misleading”.

    It relates to an interview Ms Steggall did with Channel Nine’s Today show host Georgie Gardiner where she was asked about opponents doctoring her Wikipedia page.

    On the weekend of March 9 and 10 additions were made to her entry which included descriptions of her as a “men’s magazine model” and stated she had appeared nude and wearing lingerie in photoshoots.

    When asked by Gardiner who she thought was responsible for the additions, Ms Steggall said: “There’s no doubt about it that it’s from an opponent’s point of view. So again, I wouldn’t want to point fingers at who it is, but we know Advance Australia are running ads where they are openly lying about my campaign platform, my position on policies.”

    A spokesman for Advance Australia described her comments as “sloppy” and said Ms Steggall — who became a barrister after retiring from skiing — should know better.

    “We represent 28,000 supporters from across the country and they expect us to maintain and protect the integrity of our movement,” the spokesman said.

    Advance Australia has instructed the group’s legal representatives, Harpur Phillips, to send the warning letter to Ms Steggall.

    “Your response to the questions ‘what’s your suspicion?’ clearly implies that Advance Australia made the changes to your Wikipedia page, and alleges that Advance Australia is dishonest in its dealings with the Australian voters,” the letter alleges.

    “We are instructed that Advance Australia did not make any changes to your Wikipedia page, including the changes discussed in the interview.

  146. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    as part of the University of Sydney’s broader FutureFix program

    Universities really are a lost cause these days with programs such as FutureKill. Evade and eschew them except for STEM and even then tread warily as the infective virus invades most ‘supplementary’ studies even in these areas.

  147. struth

    I can’t believe the hysteria shown here because a political leader showing a modicum of courtesy to a subset of her citizens who have been the target of a terrorist, and some extremely moderate support of what is mere good manners

    Of course you can’t Notafan.
    My point exactly.

    Not all religions are equal, notafan, some you must treat differently.

    You open your mouth to change feet.

    God it depresses me.
    I wish I was wrong about this.

  148. struth

    As for the rest, including the idiotic call to prayer, what do you expect from a doyen of the progressive set?

    She didn’t come up with it straight away Nota fan.
    This deadly brain fart was suggested to her after they saw she’d be up for it from donning the Hijab.

    I have no proof Notafan.
    Let’s call it male men’s intuition……………………

    Whadda you reckon happened?

  149. notafan

    What we need is a few more untruthful posts struth claiming female commentors here gave their blanket blessing to Arden’s virtue signalling

  150. Confused Old Misfit

    I can’t believe the hysteria shown here because a political leader showing a modicum of courtesy to a subset of her citizens who have been the target of a terrorist, and some extremely moderate support of what is mere good manners

    There is a assumption implicit in this that the subset of citizens who have been targeted attach the same value to what you describe as a gesture of courtesy as do you.
    I put it to you that this may not be the case.
    I further postulate that some are becoming aware of the indications that our reactions to atrocious acts are being used to further insinuate and modify our culture.

  151. Frank

    Interesting to see if the ABC gives any airtime to the Senegalese immigrant that tried to set fire to a bus full of schoolchildren as a protest against immigration policy. There is footage for them to ignore too.

    link.

  152. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I have put a longer skirt on over a short one when entering a Buddhist temple, and if asked, I would wear a hijab in a mosque. On tour in Egypt we were taken to a Cairo mosque where no such restrictions were put upon tourists’ entry and the welcome mat was definitely out. I have no problem with Jacinta showing empathy, although the call to prayer idea is a bit over the top, and I suspect many New Zealanders think as much even if out of civilized respect they don’t say so. However, as a one-off in the current circumstances of shock at such societal violence it will probably do no harm. The West is genuinely tolerant; a good thing which should not be turned into a stupid thing.

  153. twostix

    I also would take it that Rotherham or Oxford weren’t mentioned.

    One of the arrests was near Rotherham.

    They’ve stuffed a thousand million tonnes of gunpowder under our nations and now they arrest anyone who points it out because, they sniff, someone might light a match.

    These people consider themselves to be competent and wise and level headed and the everyman to be extremely dangerous.

    Delusion doesn’t begin to describe it.

  154. Baldrick

    Arden’s full of shit unless she announces she’s converting to Islam.

  155. twostix

    The hijab is neither here nor there.

    The call to broadcast the brain crushing off key call to obey and Jacinda telling young girls at a public highschool that Islam is wonderful for girls is where it’s at.

  156. Confused Old Misfit

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2965688, posted on March 21, 2019 at 12:40 pm

    But YOU are not the titular leader of a nation.

  157. notafan

    I don’t care what muslims thought or think

    We live by our standards, not theirs.

    What I object to is struth claiming that female commentors here supported jacinda’s continued wearing of the hijab
    as for the rest

    since when haven’t muslims always been the REAL victims of any atrocity and the recipients of more money and more concessions

    oh and

    I am very much aware of the purpose of hijab and have said so many times here

    It’s most simple meaning

    Rape that one with the uncovered hair

  158. Overburdened

    The solution for all the hating and lewd and/ or perjorative remarks regarding the NZ prime minister and the girls trying to play Aussie Rules would be for them and all their acolytes to wear the burka.
    Whilst being kept in a sealed panic room.
    In an abandoned rural location.

  159. notafan

    If Arden thinks she is going to avoid reprisals by kowtowing she has another think coming

  160. struth

    and if asked, I would wear a hijab in a mosque.

    Go for it.
    You are not the PM of New Zealand with more to think about.

    Nota, all women did not think it was fine her wearing the hijab into a Mosque.
    NO man thought it was a good idea, on this blog.
    Why?

  161. Confused Old Misfit

    If Arden thinks she is going to avoid reprisals by kowtowing she has another think coming

    Ah!
    So, Grasshopper!
    You begin to understand?

  162. Roger

    Rape that one with the uncovered hair

    And the partially exposed bosom.

  163. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The comment below is in moderation probably due to my blockquoting an old-time Australian idiomatic word Truth used about himself and which is sometimes used in a very unpleasant way by ‘eugenicists’.
    Hope this gets through:

    No you’re not, Struth. You and Black Balls are OK. We getcha. The Good Guys, who’ve got our back.
    Lots of silly women are easily led. Feelz-R-Us etc. We sort of get them too, we know the feelz.
    Even though we think they are being taken for a politically wrong ride on the basis of lady feelz.

  164. notafan

    I have no proof Notafan.
    Let’s call it male men’s intuition……………………

    Considering your claim on another thread that the Christchurch attack was a response to social media censorship I’d call it idiot’s intuition.

    Honestly you are exactly the same as a feminazi, everything is a gender issue to you

  165. notafan

    And the partially exposed bosom.

    I noticed that too Roger

  166. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Going to try again for the third time with a comment in mods to find the ‘bad’ word.

    Is it balls? As in Black Balls, the name of a commenter.

    Was just wanting to say you two were OK guys.

  167. struth

    and the girls trying to play Aussie Rules

    I was in a Pub in Qld the other night doing a gig facing a big screen TV with the sound down, of woman’s (I use the term loosely) AFL.
    All I saw was dumb young things being carted off injured, – a lot.

    And piss poor footy.

  168. Black Ball

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1B12HP
    What happened with the hard line stance? Why weren’t flags raised as to the background check of the shooter? Didn’t Jacindamania refuse to accept those from Manus Island?
    Only questions of course but there is much to discuss over a parma at the local.

  169. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yep. The b-word still gets you axed here.

    Just reassuring Struth and Noir Thingos that they are OK guys in my book.
    Will give up now, as this is my 4th time trying to find out what went wrong with my wording. 🙂

  170. notafan

    No woman here said it was a good idea

    we said is was an act of charity, or a common courtesy

    and what I objected to was you deliberately characterizing that limited concession into a blanket women of Catallaxy approval of all Arden’s excesses

    you are more interesting in making this your usual men good woman bad crap than anything else

  171. Areff.

    Not until we bring our dead home from Gallipoli. Their graves will be desecrated. Bet on it.

    #bringthemhome.

  172. Eyrie

    Anyone know the religion of the Italian bus arsonist? Wikipedia says 95% of Senegal is Muslim.

  173. Black Ball

    And piss poor footy.

    Piss poor administration also. How you would divise a conference system 6 teams each, and one conference had the best 3 sides and a team with a percentage of 65 gets in, smacks of a pathetic competition. Watching Nicole Livingstone explain this should be used in substitute for waterboarding terrorists in Guantanamo.

  174. struth

    Considering your claim on another thread that the Christchurch attack was a response to social media censorship I’d call it idiot’s intuition.

    You think it may not be?
    Partly?
    Suppressing criticing the people murdering you based on who you are doesn’t lead to increased tension?

    Honestly you are exactly the same as a feminazi, everything is a gender issue to you

    Fight fire with fire.
    You girls started it, as you admit here.

    I’m just pointing out there are reasons why you shouldn’t discount your feminine leanings before opening your gob.

  175. notafan

    COM

    you think you brought me to that conclusion?

    No she is just doing what progs always do

  176. Muddy

    notafan
    #2965694, posted on March 21, 2019 at 12:43 pm

    I don’t care what muslims thought or think

    We live by our standards, not theirs.

    WE are the HOSTS who in good faith, welcome them and go out of our way to make them feel a part of our community.
    THEY are the GUESTS who, having been invited into our ‘home’ DEMAND that the Host-Guest relationship be converted to a Conqueror-Conquered relationship. The good faith of the Host was not reciprocated by the Guest, whose intention has been the voluntary granting of access via the side gate, so that the front gate need not be assaulted (resulting in loss to the attacker). The GUEST THREATENS the HOST and demands a respect they have not shown to the host.
    The GUEST has ABROGATED the commonly known and agreed-upon responsibilities and expectations of the Host-Guest relationship. The SOCIAL CONTRACT has been BROKEN, and the breaker of the contract, the GUEST, has forfeited any benefits that the contract had promised or implied, including a the benefit of social acceptance and high standing within the broader community.

  177. Boambee John

    From Zippy

    The centre-right EPP is the largest group in the European Parliament and counts Angela Merkel, Jean-Claude Juncker and Donald Tusk among its members.

    That those three can be dubbed “centre-right” explains how a self-described eco-fascist and admirer of the Chinese Communist Party can be called far right!

  178. Speedbox

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2965492, posted on March 21, 2019 at 8:57 am
    Numbers – If you move to Russia you can learn to fire a machine gun!

    My wife was born in Russia and as children at school (during the cold war), they had hand grenade throwing practice using ‘grenades’ made from wood that were the size/shape of the real thing. They would go to a park or other vacant area with a teacher, throw the ‘grenade’ and then duck for ‘cover’.

    I have no doubt she would have enjoyed machine gun practice had it been available.

  179. Johno

    The standard of the WAFL has improved over the last few years.
    I have a good friend(female) who wants me to watch it. She says to not judge it by the standard of the mens’ comp but rather as a different comp altogether.
    I have really tried to like it, however it becomes boring after a while. To many players standing around in a clump,to many girls lumbering around the paddock, they don’t anticipate the flow. There doesn’t seem to be an overall plan to a game, merely a reaction.
    The crowd sizes are ridiculously small. Nobody is interested.

  180. Boambee John

    Mr Daley was speaking at a politics-in-the-pub event in Wentworth Falls last September

    How does that date match with Foley’s “white flight” comment?

  181. stackja

    Muddy – Muslims are ‘special’ people who expect ‘special’ treatment. About time they were told to shut up.

  182. struth

    you are more interesting in making this your usual men good woman bad crap than anything else

    We’re all good, Nota, in our place.

    I’m not doing this with you today, because no matter what, if women , especially good right wing women, such as yourself, pause before they offer their thoughts regarding important issues of state, and not as if it’s just some vote on another woman’s behaviour and dress sense, my work here is done.

    And it is done.
    I’m only doing it for you Notafan, to make you better.
    You have such potential, once civilizational ignorance, born from insulation, and the open gob before thinking part, is swept aside.

  183. Confused Old Misfit

    No she is just doing what progs always do

    Then why have you been wasting pixels over this “courtesy” furphy?
    You could have made the point somewhat more succinctly.

  184. struth

    Anyone know the religion of the Italian bus arsonist? Wikipedia says 95% of Senegal is Muslim.

    Anyone know why you haven’t been told yet?

  185. C.L.

    All women who visit the Pope (at the Vatican) must wear black and be veiled.
    The only exception is female Catholic monarchs – who may wear white.
    Angela Merkel hasn’t bothered doing so since John Paul II’s death.

  186. Overburdened

    Girls trying to play footy is one of the greatest crocks of shit ever to be forced onto those fond of the game.
    I am embarrassed for the fuckwits trying to get themselves into a lather of excitement when commentating.

  187. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    and if asked, I would wear a hijab in a mosque.

    Go for it.
    You are not the PM of New Zealand with more to think about.

    Hmm. Now how do I apply to be PM of New Zealand?
    Get over my fear of earthquakes first, I suspect. 🙂

    Other than that, I have no objection to her wearing a hijab on that occasion, noting in passing that I would make a very good female Prime Minister of New Zealand once I had mastered their weird dialect, as I would probably think harder about many things than Jacinta does. Nevertheless she responded well on this occasion, as most women would, with empathy. Not always a bad thing.

  188. Pedro the Ignorant

    Bucky Beaver has just announced a ban all semi automatic rifles, “assault rifles” and high capacity magazines in NZ.

    A freedom lost that will never be regained.

  189. Johno

    If commercial standards were applied to the WAFL they wouldn’t exist. The gate takings wouldn’t pay for the half time oranges. No advertiser would pay for the TV. Virtue signaling gets them on the box. It is ridiculous

  190. Percy Popinjay

    I believe, and happy to be corrected, that that invalidates the Ballot – just write down the Ballot outside the numbered squares – “None of these Candidates are worth voting for” – don’t waste your vote

    Sorry, OldOzzie, but I made the observation that none of the candidates were worth endorsing on the ballot for a very good reason.

    They aren’t.

    I will be casting a legitimate vote in the LC, if that’s any consolation.

  191. struth

    #AustralianeedsanArlington
    #bring them home

  192. stackja

    Notafan – Why don’t Muslims follow our culture more? Why are we always expected to pander to all their idiosyncratic culture? No other religions do.

  193. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    All women who visit the Pope (at the Vatican) must wear black and be veiled.

    I am already conjuring up in my mind’s eye a very attractive little outfit that complies, CL. 🙂

  194. Pedro the Ignorant

    The standard of the WAFL has improved over the last few years.

    Johno, please don’t call that girly footy “WAFL”. That is the Western Australian Football League, a men’s competition.

    Girly footy is AWFL (h/t the Cat commentariat)

  195. Infidel Tiger

    The standard of the WAFL has improved over the last few years.

    The WAFL is a mens comp.

    You are thinking of the AWFL.

  196. Black Ball

    Please do not confuse the WAFL with the women’s league. A disservice to those fine players from the west.

  197. struth

    Nevertheless she responded well on this occasion, as most women would, with empathy. Not always a bad thing

    You’re dealing with Islam here ladies.

    Please, think harder.

  198. Muddy

    stackja
    #2965724, posted on March 21, 2019 at 1:09 pm

    Agreed. However I think there needs to be more importance placed on the positions of the stakeholders, rather than their backgrounds. This would negate, to a small extent, the IslamoFAUXbia accusations. As GUESTS in their homes/society/culture/countries, we would not expect to be able to insult, denigrate, demand change to, or physically assault, our HOST, without enduring a consequence for breaking the unwritten social contract in the HOST-GUEST RELATIONSHIP.

    For those think that I wish to detract from Islam being incompatible with our culture as a method of appeasement: NO. Consider the approach referred to above as a means to neutralise the screams, demands and shout-downs of those who ARE the appeasers and enablers. Have a think about it. How well are things working for us now?

  199. Pedro the Ignorant

    Arise West Aussies!

    Smite the unbeliever Johno who sullies the name of our glorious footy teams!

  200. Percy Popinjay

    It is ridiculous

    The AWF(U)L is no more widely unwatched than the bulk of the televisual slop served up on an unrelenting basis by our beloved ALPBC. Yet I still have to enjoy the privilege for paying through the nose for previously unheard of economic insights from Signorina Alberscreechee, or contributing to Antonio Jones Jr’s ($450,185) extortionate “salary”.

    That is ridiculous.

  201. notafan

    Stackja

    why ask me?

    I wasn’t the one making wearing a hijab to a mosque after a terror attack a mountain

    Like I said we live by our standards, not theirs.

    The Queen know how to show a little courtesy, after all.

  202. cuckoo

    Made the mistake of looking at the Sunday Age magazine. There was an article about middle aged couples finding lurve the second time around. The hero image was a stock photo of a ‘typical’ couple, posed by models – you guessed it – a black guy and a very white woman. Funny thing is, each of the actual couples interviewed for the article was shown in a photograph and each was, er, a white guy with a white woman.

  203. struth

    Tell me this Notafan.
    If it’s just common courtesy to Donn a headscarf, why was the story you linked to ABOUT the queen donning a head scarf, EVEN WHILE IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY, visiting a Mosque.

    Why, oh why, if it’s just common courtesy?

  204. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Queen wears a hijab in mosque, no big deal.
    The Royals wear headscarves constantly in the Scottish Highlands.
    Second nature to them.
    Even I wear them in an open-top Aston Martin.
    Can’t stand the blown hair feeling of the ads. 🙂

  205. notafan

    Don’t get upset struth

    but

    While there are some men posting here, who’s opinion I have a very high regard for

    you don’t happen to be one of them

  206. bespoke

    Mark A
    #2965658, posted on March 21, 2019 at 12:07 pm
    like a man removing his hat before he enters a Catholic church
    Ahhh so, that’s why they look at me funny.

    Its not the hat its the stiletto’s.

  207. Black Ball

    Jacindamania in full head tilt mode.

  208. notafan

    Are you now, seriously, trying to argue, that the location of the mosque is what matters, not it being a mosque?

    That annoying Queen Elizabeth dashing your idiotic argument to the ground like that!

    How dare she!

  209. Muddy

    The first step is to deal with the enablers.
    Remove the legs of the chair, so that whoever sits on it does not have the support they once used to.
    A target less secure poses a lesser risk to the attacker.

  210. struth

    Don’t get upset struth

    but

    While there are some men posting here, who’s opinion I have a very high regard for

    you don’t happen to be one of them

    That’s great.
    How am I expected to get a good night’s sleep now?

  211. C.L.

    The special right of female Catholic monarchs visiting a pope is called the “privilege du blanc.”

  212. Truckies/army transport blokes.
    On the video at the 7:10 mark, the transporter is winching – it looks like a Patton AFV – the winching ropes are crossed. I’ve seen it before when loading, but never understood why.
    Can anyone enlighten me?

  213. bespoke

    Some people had problems with this ad but I don’t. It didn’t take sides and showed positive male traits for a change. My all time foveate ad was the one with hundreds of life savers surrounding a little kid.

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2019/03/20/wednesday-forum-march-20-2019/comment-page-3/#comment-2965750

  214. struth

    The Queen is only a woman after all, Notafan.
    Just a Human been like the rest of us.
    It was 2008 and do you think she would now race down to a mosque and don , not just a scarf, but full muslim headress if any violence was to happen in a London Mosque?
    I suppose we will never know.
    Timing and the message it sends, is critical.

    And if she did do vthat, I would be highly critical of her as well.
    That headscarf is nothing like what Jacinta had on.
    You’re quite a dishonest goal post changer once you get started.

  215. Eyrie

    Latest petition up on change.org.
    Some fuck called Mohammed wants this:

    Change.org

    In the wake of the Christchurch terror attacks and the “toxic” response from some Australian politicians, many believe it’s time for an enforceable Code of Conduct for our Parliamentarians.

    Mohammad thinks now is the time to hold our politicians to account and end their divisive, dangerous behaviour. Michael, will you stand with Mohammad and the Islamic Council of Victoria and sign this petition?

  216. Eyrie

    I’ve told change.org they need a button alongside the sign one that says oppose this petition and allow reasons why.

    Might be interesting, no?

  217. Percy Popinjay

    Mr Daley also accused the government of being “at war with the environment’’ after one million fish died at the Menindee Lakes.

    There’s only one thing that can save Poor Ol’ Daley on Saturday – he needs to immediately announce he’ll establish a “bipartisan cladding taskforce” post labor’s election.

  218. Tom

    I have really tried to like it, however it becomes boring after a while. To many players standing around in a clump,to many girls lumbering around the paddock, they don’t anticipate the flow. There doesn’t seem to be an overall plan to a game, merely a reaction.
    The crowd sizes are ridiculously small. Nobody is interested.

    Johno, you should see the front page of this morning’s Melbourne Herald Sun: TROLL HUNT, the left’s Weiblicher Sturmtrupp thunders in 144-point bold caps.

    You see, someone online has posted something rude about a sheila’s attempt to look manly kicking a football.

    The proletariat vill entjoi the front bums’ attempt to play mens’ football, even zo nobody is vatcbing and no-one could give a pharque.

    Australian blokes tolerate this you-go-guuurrrrl shit daily without complaint. Anything to placate the little wymynses, even the feminazi bull deichs.

  219. Snoopy

    Numbers
    captured in one of his happier moods.

  220. 1735099

    A freedom lost that will never be regained.

    Bollocks.
    These things are tools. They have nothing to do with “freedom”.
    A spanner(for example) is a tool designed with a very specific purpose; to assemble and dismantle kit.
    An AR-15 is also a tool for a very specific purpose, i.e. to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible, as demonstrated so clearly in Christchurch last Friday.
    They are weapons of war and have no place in a peaceful and civilised community.

  221. struth

    Keeps tracked vehicles straight, that have a tendency to slide side ways.
    You should always chain across the deck to stop side ways movement.
    Also it decreases the angle of the chain vertically and with many items this means a bit of tyre bounce or similar, won’t break the chains.

  222. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    You’re dealing with Islam here ladies.
    Please, think harder.

    She’s a female Prime Minister, Struth. She has many female voters with eyes on her. And many male voters who would criticize her for putting her own feminist ideals forward in such a symbolic manner during this episode. Whether we like it or not, these people were here at her own invitation too.

    She was politically wise to not make a deliberate show of offending Muslim feelings on their own turf at such a time of grief. As well, she was displaying a level of common humanity that was appreciated by many, especially those who voted for her policies, but also others. It is the follow-on from this disaster that requires the solid thinking and which carries much greater import than the immediate and humane response re a hijab. I suspect from the call to prayer example that she will be deficient in handling that well.

  223. John Constantine

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2019/mar/21/new-zealand-shooting-jacinda-ardern-to-make-policy-announcement-live-updates

    Only the start of the gungrab, chew away a bite at a time.

    Jacindamania gushes that she will break the will of gunowners through regulation and cost of compliance.

    Comrades.

  224. Snoopy

    They are weapons of war and have no place in a peaceful and civilised community.

    Name the armies equipped with AR-15’s.

  225. Overburdened

    Johno
    Looking back, I think the rot started to set in back in the day when the coach told me that if I kept playing like I was he’d pull me off at half time.
    I told him great normally we only get half an orange.
    I do take umbrage at the slight to the WA footy boys.
    The ones that play like girls go to Victoria.

  226. Muddy

    They are weapons of war and have no place in a peaceful and civilised community.

    The interesting thing about ‘peace’ is that those who choose the opposite are rarely polite enough to give their identified victims a generous ‘Heads up’ so the latter may prepare a defense in the interests of ‘fairness.’

  227. Snoopy

    Jacindamania gushes that she will break the will of gunowners through regulation and cost of compliance.

    Good luck with that. The Maori love affair with firearms dates from 1807. They have become part of Maori culture.

  228. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I have really tried to like it,

    Good Lord Jonno, if you have to try then it’s obviously no fun. Why bother?

    I don’t understand men’s football games at all, except that at times in Rugby the scrum seems to replicate the old warrior ‘shield wall’ style of fighting. These things are men’s stuff, men doing rough things. Some women like to watch it; I don’t, as it bores me witless. Hairy loves it.

    Just watch what you like.

  229. bespoke

    1735099
    #2965481, posted on March 21, 2019 at 8:48 am

    Must have been a gratifying experience sharing a pit with you.
    Can’t have been too bad, or else they all have poor memories. I have lifelong interstate friends amongst survivors from my rifle section, and we get together more than once annually.

    If you displayed the amount of dilutional hypocrisy you do hear that wouldn’t be the case. I’m a short ass but I don’t have the chip you do, Sad.

  230. Overburdened

    In preparation for the upcoming round of inter species litigation being touted by the brightest minds at Sydney Uni, I have put together a crack legal team of an eggplant and a fired up axolotl to defend me if it is ever detected that I ‘spitroasted’ an asparagus.

  231. John Constantine

    Mr Dalgleish said buyers such as supermarkets purchasing finished lambs direct off-farm were “aware of the impending tightening of lamb supplies”, contributing to the prices they were willing to pay.

    Meat and Livestock Australia market analyst Alex McIntosh said the trade lamb indicator had been around the 650c/kg mark for some time, with the stability largely due to the consistency of lamb supply, despite the difficult season.

    But, a supply shortage was expected “at some point, it is very difficult to say when”, Mr McIntosh said.

    Meanwhile, over-the-hooks lamb indicators were trading at around a 20c/kg premium to saleyard prices, however, most categories had eased during the past fortnight.

    The current high sheep slaughter rates were likely to cut into lamb supplies in coming months, as well as poor scanning results.

  232. struth

    I can only lead a horse to water, Lizzie.

    God help us.

    She’s a female Prime Minister, Struth.

    She’s a PM first, and female second.

    Whether her female fans here like Lisa Wilkinson or yourself think it’s fine, ladies it isn’t fine.
    Especially not when the reaction to Mussie terrorism is to not even allow the name Islam to be mentioned.
    The hypocrisy and disgusting, perverse subordination will have Imams across the worls feeling empowered and feeling like the west feel ashamed of itself and will feel incredibly emboldened, just as the PM of Turkey has.
    These people understand nothing but strength.

    What has Jacinda done.
    Probably bought on more Islamic attacks and more western death.

    But she looked good in front of some women voters and Lisa Wilkinson.

    FMD.

    Disgraceful.
    It reeks of subordination to Islam, and I don’t give a flying fuck how dumb female voters see it, I gice a fuck what the entire Islamic wold makes of it

  233. struth

    And the Islamic world don’t make of it what you make of it.’
    What’s more important, vitue signalling ou subordination at this time, or not?
    This has nothing to do with how you perceive her actions.
    It’s how the bomb chuckers do.

  234. DrBeauGan

    Struth is right, Lizzie. You get the warm fuzzies at a display of empathy. Most men would see it as weakness, and Muslims have men in charge. They would despise NZ for having a female PM. And they have a case, Maggie Thatcher notwithstanding.

  235. Snoopy

    If the M-16 resembled the AK-47 no one would refer to an AR-15 as a military style weapon.

  236. struth

    Do you ladies foget being told by police after mussie terror attacks that they are completely alert to reprisal attacks and will not tolerate it.
    Although it never came, they were going to pounce on it if it did.
    Where were those warnings to the Muslim community.
    Where was, “while we are grieving, we will tolerate no reprisal attacks from Islamic supporters and you will feel the full force of the law” blah blah, like they did with us?
    Many times.
    It’s all rather sick, but hey, to some of our women, she dressed appropriately and isn’t that nice.
    Spare me the hypocrisy and insanity of ignoring the bleeding obvious.

  237. stackja

    Which woman PM has handled a crisis well? As mentioned above Margaret T is only one that comes to mind. HRC in USA crisis management?

  238. Leigh Lowe

    1735099

    #2965766, posted on March 21, 2019 at 1:39 pm

    A freedom lost that will never be regained.

    Bollocks.
    These things are tools.

    As are you, spud-peeler.

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