NSW Votes 2019

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  1. calli

    I voted.

    A tiny napkin and a tablecloth.

    Bizarre.

  2. stackja

    I voted Wednesday.

    A tiny napkin and a tablecloth.

    Fun!

  3. Boambee John

    calli
    #2967839, posted on March 23, 2019 at 5:02 pm
    I voted.

    A tiny napkin and a tablecloth.

    Bizarre.

    And two identical sized boxes into which to place them.

    The box for the tablecloths was stuffed full, while the other echoed as the paper dropped!

  4. egg_

    Some Government MPs believe if they are returned to office tonight, it will be despite Gladys Berejiklian’s campaign performance, not because of it.

    Until this week, Labor leader Michael Daley had the edge in campaigning.

    Then video emerged of him telling voters at a function last year that Asians with PhDs were “taking jobs” in Sydney.

    While the comments were widely condemned, Labor insiders hope the gaffe will be largely overlooked in the winnable seats it needs to claim tonight.”

  5. stackja

    Boambee John
    #2967848, posted on March 23, 2019 at 5:09 pm

    My special pre-poll station used one big blue bag. I was about the last to vote. It needed big effort to get ballot papers in.

  6. stackja

    Aust Conservatives (@AuConservatives) tweeted at 8:29 pm on Fri., Mar. 22, 2019:
    Conservative Party leader @CoryBernardi says last Friday’s Christchurch mosque attack was a barbarous act, made all the more heinous because it was perpetrated on people in their place of worship. But the political and media response has been nothing less than appalling. #auspol

    Who knew this? AC don’t get traction!

  7. Overburdened

    Approached by an earnest, soft plump teenie saying animal rights party or something.
    I said moo.

  8. a reader

    Went back to my primary school for the first time since I graduated 20 odd years ago. Nice to see not much has changed. Labor bloke tried to give me a how to vote card and I said loudly “absolutely no bloody way.” He was somewhat taken aback. Then the liberal tried to give it to me and I told her I don’t need one as I was already on her side.

    Then I got into the box and numbered all of the AusCons, the Christian Democrats, Latham and then a few select Liberal/Nationals that I knew weren’t closet socialists.

    Carn Gladys.

  9. JamesS

    The local voting station in nicer area of Labor seat at 8am: one Labor supporter handing out the How To Vote cards, but no Liberal workers or Green for that matter. I wonder how much the Liberal vote has splintered. Not surprised they will go backwards.

  10. Baldrick

    Meh, Liberal/Labor = Uni-Party.

    Seems the biggest issue facing NSW is how much they should spend on a stadium no one goes to.

  11. Overburdened

    I used to vote in Clarence.
    Gulaptis should do it in a canter.
    Having had dealings with most of the candidates he only has one opponent.
    Stupid is common in the area.

  12. Overburdened

    …one bloke in my current electorate should sleep walk his way over the line.
    Again, lot of stupid, plus worrying about whales cows the barrier reef climate catastrophe dole bludging and its affiliates around here.

  13. Overburdened

    …which I am aware are fed issues.
    Problem is most people don’t have a clue

  14. Overburdened

    Labor had a intrusively large red banner saying vote Labor for free TAFE.
    #moneytree

  15. Tom

    There is no longer anything resembling the “liberal” left, just the loony left that will accept nothing less than communism’s destruction of capitalism. The left will accept nothing less than the destruction of the entire Western world’s wealth creation system. The loony left — which includes the ALP and the Filth — have no ideology except to destroy everything. And yet they’re never been hungrier for power over us.

  16. cohenite

    Greens doing well especially in alarmist/anti-vaccination headquarters Lismore.

  17. stackja

    NSW votes ‘isolated’ after booth mishap
    Tom Rabe, Australian Associated Press
    13 minutes ago

    A mix up at a Sydney voting booth has forced the NSW electoral commission to “isolate” a number of ballot papers.

    A person who wasn’t employed by the electoral commission began issuing ballot papers to voters at a booth in the marginal Sydney electorate of Strathfield on Saturday.

    A NSW electoral commission spokesman said the votes in question would be counted separately.

    “The NSW electoral commission is aware that a person who was not employed by the NSW Electoral Commission issued ballot papers this morning due to an administrative error,” the spokesman said in a statement to AAP.

    The spokesman said it was not yet known how many votes have been affected by the mix up.

    “The number of votes involved will be determined during counting, which starts after 6pm tonight,” the spokesman said.

  18. Infidel Tiger

    Shooters killing it in the bush.

    Good stuff.

  19. Infidel Tiger

    The effeminate inner city turd Liberal Party are going to have form a coalition with the Shooters.

    Haha haha!

  20. Infidel Tiger

    Wow.

    Chicom seats all swinging to Libs.

  21. Infidel Tiger

    Pre poll voting must be made illegal.

  22. stackja

    Billy Freeman, The Daily Telegraph
    1m ago March 23, 2019
    The Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party looks to have won the first seat of the night
    Billy Freeman

    Phil Donato, who won the seat of Orange in the state’s central west from the Nationals at a by-election in 2017, looks to have increased his margin.

  23. Percy Popinjay

    Bluddee hell – spent two hours this arvo handing out HTVs for a fellow cat who is running in the lower house. In a salubrious part of Sydney, so I didn’t even get to go the Biff. 🙁

    Coincidentally, it was right next to where two of my oldest mates exist.

    They’re both collectivists.

    However, there was some good news – the Strat is back – back, Baby, back! After some very major repairs. Was worried I’d never see it again.

  24. Fleeced

    Wow.

    Chicom seats all swinging to Libs.

    LOL

  25. stackja

    1m ago March 23, 2019
    Greens MP Jenny Leong has been comfortably re-elected in Newtown
    Billy Freeman

  26. Tintarella di Luna

    Bluddee hell – spent two hours this arvo handing out HTVs for a fellow cat who is running in the lower house. In a salubrious part of Sydney, so I didn’t even get to go the Biff. 🙁

    Good on you Percy, circumstances have prevented me from being involved in this election otherwise we coulda been a tag team. Cheers

  27. Rabid Koala

    Aust Conservatives (@AuConservatives) tweeted at 8:29 pm on Fri., Mar. 22, 2019:
    Conservative Party leader @CoryBernardi says last Friday’s Christchurch mosque attack was a barbarous act, made all the more heinous because it was perpetrated on people in their place of worship. But the political and media response has been nothing less than appalling. #auspol

    Stfu Bernardi and stop making me regret voting for you over one nation

  28. Tintarella di Luna

    Wow.

    Chicom seats all swinging to Libs.

    LOL

    Kogarah had some startling figures that’s for sure.

  29. Infidel Tiger

    Amazing.

    Only demographics that now matter in NSW are the Chinaman and the bushie.

    Interesting.

  30. stackja

    2m ago March 23, 2019
    Legendary Labor numbers man Graham Richardson fears Michael Daley’s been hurt by the controversies of the last week
    Billy Freeman

  31. Tintarella di Luna

    Amazing.

    Only demographics that now matter in NSW are the Chinaman and the bushie.

    Interesting.

    Overdevelopment in Ryde is not helping the POW Liberal either

  32. Infidel Tiger

    Australian Conservatives are officially a joke.

    Embarrassing.

  33. Percy Popinjay

    Only demographics that now matter in NSW are the Chinaman and the bushie.

    Not quite, Tigger. Well not yet, anyway.

  34. stackja

    Infidel Tiger
    #2967956, posted on March 23, 2019 at 7:18 pm
    Pre poll voting must be made illegal.

    And the elderly don’t get to vote!

  35. Fleeced

    Annoying thing with Sky News: You used to be able to stream it for free with Foxtel’s app, even if not a subscriber (if you didn’t log in, that channel was still accessible). I cancelled Foxtel earlier this year, and of predictably, they’ve changed things so I can’t stream it anymore.

    And no, I can’t get WinTV.

  36. Infidel Tiger

    We’ve destroyed Australian suburbia to accomodate Chinamen and this is the result.

    What a country.

  37. Rabid Koala

    Amazing.

    Only demographics that now matter in NSW are the Chinaman and the bushie.

    Interesting.

    Bushies are the only ones objecting to the Chinese take over of Australia.

  38. Miltonf

    Saw a picture of Trumble and hughes Trumble cosying up to gladys. Glad I voted informal in LA and latho in LC.

  39. Bruce of Newcastle

    Quick look at the Seven and ABC teev coverage. Latham in his element! He’s good to watch. Antony on ABC is still marvelous at weaving whole stories from 1% electoral returns. And Barnaby was wonderfully trolling the green wymminses next to him with naughty words like “coal”. Unfortunately his party is plummeting leftwards.

    Pity they have such awful MCs like Mark Riley and Mrs Combet to make the coverage unwatchable.

  40. Percy Popinjay

    Apart from the ALPBC, where can one watch this live televisual demolition of the labore pardee?

    Out of scope – seven nine and ten.

    Don’t tell me it’s just bluddee Sky?

  41. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NSW state election: Malcolm Turnbull shows support for Libs on polling day

    AAP
    18 minutes ago March 23, 2019
    No Comments

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison may have failed to join NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian at a polling booth on election day, but a former PM did show his face.

    Malcolm Turnbull was out campaigning for the Liberals, saying it was “so important” the Berejiklian government be re-elected.

    The former prime minister spent Saturday morning with Coogee MP Bruce Notley-Smith at a polling booth in Sydney’s eastern suburbs.

    The electorate takes in part of the federal division of Wentworth, Mr Turnbull’s former blue-ribbon Liberal seat that fell to independent Kerryn Phelps in the October by-election.

    “It’s so important to re-elect the Berejiklian government and Bruce Notley-Smith right here in Coogee,” Mr Turnbull said in a video posted on Twitter on Saturday.

    The dumped Liberal leader wrote a glowing opinion piece about NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian in The Sydney Morning Herald, describing her as practical, competent, smart, humble and a great listener and learner.

    “And she gets things done,” he wrote, echoing the Liberals’ campaign slogan. Mr Turnbull said Ms Berejiklian had no appetite for the nasty side of politics and labelled her government as the most successful state government in Australia.

    “But there is a lot more to do. And Gladys Berejiklian is the leader to do it

    From the Oz. He should have been tarred, feathered, and ridden out of town on a rail.

  42. Percy Popinjay

    #berylgladyschlocklian4evah

  43. stackja

    Tel
    #2967907, posted on March 23, 2019 at 6:08 pm
    https://vtr.elections.nsw.gov.au/la/home

    I watching that and Daily Tele. Don’t have TV. Radio probably only sport.

  44. Bruce of Newcastle

    Annoying thing with Sky News: You used to be able to stream it for free with Foxtel’s app

    The audio is available on Sky News website: Sky News Radio: LIVE now

  45. Fleeced

    Australian Conservatives are officially a joke.

    That was always going to happen (in the lower house, at least). Family First never did good in NSW either – CDP has a stranglehold on that. Despite the fact that they basically just side with Libs for most things, they’re well established, and I know quite a few churches who recruit volunteers for them. This was further strengthened during the SSM campaign.

    The ACL helps push them as well (with their little charts ranking Christian-friendly candidates).

    But it’s Shooters who seem to be doing better here. A reaction to NZ? Something else?

  46. egg_

    Keep Bejigglin’, Gladys.

  47. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2967992, posted on March 23, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    Thank you!

  48. Infidel Tiger

    A Chicom Shooters Party would shit it in.

  49. Fleeced

    And shooters had the A slot on the LC house. They’re getting that.

    And Libs getting Granville… sure, it’s a high asian pop, but a boatload of them are muslims.

  50. Infidel Tiger

    Some absolute cockhead Nat from Tweed showing exactly why the Nats are now irrelevant.

    If the bush wanted woke lesbians representing them theyd move to Rozelle.

  51. Infidel Tiger

    Bevan Shields
    @BevanShields
    Shooters, Fishers and Farmers looking at three lower house seats #nswvotes
    4:40 PM · Mar 23, 2019 · Twitter for iPhone

    Quinoa and kale crowd left speechless.

  52. Bruce of Newcastle

    Antony says it’s much better for the Libs than anyone expected and also the slowest count he’s ever seen.

    New numberplate slogan: NSW the crappy state!

  53. 2dogs

    Antony Green complaining about the slow count.

  54. Percy Popinjay

    LOL – labore getting their flabby sweaty yaartzes kicked.

  55. Percy Popinjay

    Howard’s Goward is one of the oogliest imbeciles to have existed in yuman history. FFS.

  56. A Lurker

    Northern Tablelands has Labor and SFF party neck and neck for second place.

  57. 132andBush

    Early days but SFF doing well in Murray.

  58. Percy Popinjay

    Goward administering a size 10 stiletto to an abbaroginal – da waaaaaycismmm!!

  59. Pedro the Ignorant

    I don’t have a dog in this fight, but it is good to see Shooters Fishers and Farmers doing well in regional seats.

  60. 132andBush

    SFF have gained Murray!!

  61. egg_

    Antony Green complaining about the slow count.

    The Chinks are slow c#nts, but that’s taking things too far.

  62. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I don’t have a dog in this fight, but it is good to see Shooters Fishers and Farmers doing well in regional seats.

    Might be the boot up the clacker that the Nationals need.

  63. stackja

    Anthony Roberts Planning Minister holds safe seat. ABC
    LIB -3.9%
    Independent Richard Quinn +14.3%
    ALP -2.6%
    Greens -5.2%

  64. Infidel Tiger

    First Mueller and now the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers.

    Man the suicide lines!

  65. Percy Popinjay

    Antony Green calling it for Beryl Gladyschlocklian and the Gliberals.

  66. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sid Maher
    8 MINUTES AGO | 8.07pm
    Berejiklian will be returned

    Gladys Berejiklian will be returned as Premier of NSW but with counting proceeding it is still unclear whether she will have a majority in her own right or be forced to rely on crossbench support in minority government.

    Labor is simply not making the gains in the seats it to needed and will not be able to form government.

    However the Nationals are struggling in the bush and suffering at the hands of the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party.

    Seats that Labor had thought it may be able to win such as Goulburn are safe for the Liberals while the marginal seat of East Hills is too close to call but could well be retained by the Liberals.

    Penrith, where Ms Berejiklian campaigned heavily, remains in the balance.

    However the real story of the night to date is in the bush. The seats of Murray and Barwon look set to fall to the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers and Upper Hunter is in trouble and could fall to Labor.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  67. 132andBush

    The Libs and Nats can count on this swing in the regions come the fed election.
    Hope they’re shitting bricks. They deserve it.

  68. Percy Popinjay

    132andBush

    can or can’t, FFS?

  69. 132andBush

    PP,
    They can count on this same swing against them.
    Hope they’re factoring it in to retirement plans.

  70. Percy Popinjay

    Perrotits and the Abbariginal are wearing quite possibly the most ridiculous Erkos I’ve had the misfortune to have seen in my life.

    Here’s a hint, you infuriating narcissistic wankers – slinging a pair of mini widescreen televisions onto your bonce does not make you look intelligent. Quite the opposite, in fact.

  71. Percy Popinjay

    Excellent news, 132nd. I want them all out.

  72. Percy Popinjay

    LOL – the Parrot is bloviating on Sky. Thank goodness the sound is on zero.

  73. Rococo Liberal

    PP
    If you would prefer a Shorten government then you are a cuck of the first order.

  74. Percy Popinjay

    Even more LOLs – the Animal Justice Pardee is outpolling the greenfilth.

  75. Percy Popinjay

    RL – if you can find a single comment on this blog where I’ve advocated a Teats Peanuthead 1,000 year carbon frei Reich, feel free to repost them

  76. Bruce of Newcastle

    Fun in my electorate (30.8% counted).

    Independent up another 11.4% (now +22% 2pp)
    Libs down 3.3%
    ALP down 7.6%
    Greens flat.

    This is a rusted on ALP seat normally (certainly at Federal level), and Piper is an ex-Lib but with a good record of slogging away as a local member. I didn’t vote for him because he’s against coal and gas. But in ALP heartland to see 7.6% swing against the ALP suggests they have a biiiig problem with deplorable bogans, which is what we tend to be here.

  77. Snoopy

    On TheirABC, nasty Labor bint doing her best Black Knight impression. No, I don’t mean Linda Burney.

  78. Percy Popinjay

    Bluddee hell – scrote face looks like even more hideous than I’d ever remembered. WTF is he doing on television?

    Only on the ALPBC. Thanks, Taxpayers!

  79. Caveman

    Im calling it early , Shortman wont be the next PM.

  80. Rococo Liberal

    PP
    Well Shorten is the only alternative to the Coalition. If you want the coalition members to lose their seats, then you will get Shorten.

  81. A Lurker

    Amusingly the Australian Conservatives are outpolling the Lib Dems.

    Australian Conservatives 8,582
    Liberal Democrats 3,132

  82. Percy Popinjay

    This is the time where Teats Peanuthead starts bleating about those legendary “State Ishoos”.

  83. Percy Popinjay

    you will get Shorten

    I’m not the one who decides the next election result, RL. The senate may be interesting, although the conservatives (i.e. our side) need to get their shit together. At the moment, no one is out there even attempting to resist this collectivist tsunami.

  84. rugbyskier

    I’m in Monaro and John Barilaro won every booth in the electorate. Labor losing Queanbeyan is quite significant, I’ve never seen it before.

  85. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Libs 31 seats, Nats 12, Labor 27, other 4, undecided 19.

  86. Percy Popinjay

    RS – any chance of feeding into that legendary bellwether seat EM?

  87. Percy Popinjay

    LOL – Richo has thrown Daley under the bus.

  88. Motelier

    Assuming that Glad trips over the line, will that make her the highest Lib in the land after SloMo hands over to Shorty?

  89. one old bruce

    Well that’s ruined my evening – local ALP bint got back in with increased majority. Can’t say more as it would be defamatory but #%&^*^%^*^%#*%^*%#$*%^#*!

  90. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Coalition ‘will win 45 seats’

    ABC election analyst Antony Green is predicting the Coalition has won 45 seats, Labor 31, the Greens three, the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party two, with three independents, with nine of the seats still in doubt

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  91. rugbyskier

    PP, I don’t know. Barilaro has a lot of personal support and he has got a lot of stuff done in Queanbeyan with new roads and a larger police station under construction. How that translates to Eden-Monaro remains to be seen, Mike Kelly as federal member has been very quiet this term.

  92. Bruce of Newcastle

    Assuming that Glad trips over the line, will that make her the highest Lib in the land after SloMo hands over to Shorty?

    Hodgman has a one seat majority, which the way it’s going may be better than Gladys will have.

  93. Crossie

    stackja
    #2967985, posted on March 23, 2019 at 7:34 pm
    YUNG Scott

    Hope he wins.

  94. Boambee John

    Chris Uhlmann on Nein commented that there is a gfoss double standard between treatment of left and right. He mentioned Daley’s “Asians are taking the yoof’s jerbs”, and stated openly that while Daley got away with a half hearted non apology, anyone on the conservative side who made such a comment would have been hounded by the media, HRC, and all the other usual suspects.

    Eyes opening now that he sees people other than round the ABC water cooler?

  95. Percy Popinjay

    Thanks, RS.

    All the media reporting seems to be claiming the gliberals will be in minority gubberment.

  96. Boambee John

    Motelier
    #2968069, posted on March 23, 2019 at 8:54 pm
    Assuming that Glad trips over the line, will that make her the highest Lib in the land after SloMo hands over to Shorty?

    There was a time when Campbell Newman as lord mayor of Brisbane held that position.

  97. Fleeced

    Amusingly the Australian Conservatives are outpolling the Lib Dems.

    Not that amusing. Lib Dems are basically dead in the water.

    I know a lot of Cats aren’t down with LDP, but they were my #1 pick. Still early in the count, but based on that sample, they’re toast.

    They have 1/3 of the Australian Conservative votes… which has about 1/3 of Animal Justice, FFS!

  98. Bruce of Newcastle

    Uhlmann sleeping on the lounge tonight?

  99. Nick

    They have 1/3 of the Australian Conservative votes… which has about 1/3 of Animal Justice, FFS!

    Something for the brainiacs at AC to ponder.

  100. BrettW

    Am listening to commentary on 2GB by John Stanley and Natalie Peters.

    Stanley appears to be doing the commentary without realising Peters is in the studio with him. She might as well go home as he is doing 90% of the talking.

  101. Crossie

    Channel 7 are having a much better coverage than Sky, I would not even dignify the ABC with a drive-by so don’t know about their quality. I switched to Nine for a second and thought nah.

  102. Fleeced

    OK, that figure for LDP wasn’t the LC vote, so it’s meaningless.

    Doesn’t seen to show up there at all yet.

    Still, they were in column O, so…

  103. cohenite

    Bruce of Newcastle

    #2968041, posted on March 23, 2019 at 8:34 pm

    Fun in my electorate (30.8% counted).

    Mine too. Standing in line today listening to the punters; they hate the alp and the libs; couldn’t get a signage about the LC but I heard a few Lathams.

    My only concern about the SFF is they may have drank some Kool-Aid about alarmism.

    It’s a pity about Leyonhjelm and Cory may as well set up a lemonade stand.

  104. Percy Popinjay

    There is only one option remaining. Conservatives need to “infiltrate” the liberals. I’ve been on the ground today and the staggering ignorance of your average voter is very disillusioning.

    The liberals have that name recognition and party infrastructure in place. FFS, my old man was a member of the liberal party.

    We need to reclaim what is ours. The liberal party of small government, low taxes and individual responsibility.

  105. Nick

    PHON 6.5% of vote in LC. Not bad.

  106. Overburdened

    Re mal shacking up with Gladys.
    He’s planning a comeback.

  107. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We need to reclaim what is ours. The liberal party of small government, low taxes and individual responsibility.

    Well said, squire.

  108. Percy Popinjay

    Crossie – the ALPBC is my go to on election nights (as much as I hate to admit it). Antony Green and they shut down the greenfilth last election – which is hardly surprising given their initials.

  109. Armadillo

    Kevin Anderson won in every single polling booth.

  110. Fleeced

    There is only one option remaining. Conservatives need to “infiltrate” the liberals.

    Oh, the old, “change it from the inside” routine.

    Doesn’t work. They change YOU on the inside. Every one of them sells out, and the system is set up so that those who don’t won’t survive.

  111. Peter Castieau

    The Greens and the Australian Democrats didn’t do all that well in the early history of their political success.

    It’s my sincere belief that if we (AC) persist we can also be a political force to be reckoned with in the future.

    Did Latham get up?

    Vote Australian Conservatives (in the senate) at the next election.

  112. Rabid Koala

    @Peter

    I voted for the Aus Conservatives and never again because of nonsense like this:

    Aust Conservatives (@AuConservatives) tweeted at 8:29 pm on Fri., Mar. 22, 2019:
    Conservative Party leader @CoryBernardi says last Friday’s Christchurch mosque attack was a barbarous act, made all the more heinous because it was perpetrated on people in their place of worship. But the political and media response has been nothing less than appalling. #auspol

  113. Percy Popinjay

    Yeah, thanks Pete – do you have twenty years of campaigning in you?

  114. Fleeced

    Did Latham get up?

    Only 5% of LC counted, but PHON is pulling 6.8% – a quota is 4.5%, so yeah, he should get up.

    Christian Dems are 2.1%.

    LDP and AC are grouped in “Others” at 13%, so NFI where they stand (I was looking at wrong house before)

  115. Nick

    I voted for the Aus Conservatives and never again because of nonsense like this:

    They are treating their potential base as mugs. It’s not enough to have the word Conservative in your name, you have to have policies, offer alternatives and seize the agenda. Before I hear whining about money, that Mong, Hanson can do it.

  116. Gab

    So, which party of the morons won?

  117. Dragnet

    Barnaby on Ch 7 correctly stated that the Coalition have to stop taking their political advice from the ABC.
    The mood on the street in regional towns is one of palpable frustration.

  118. Overburdened

    One old Bruce

    Where I came from, labor got in as usual, this time against a Chinese Aussie type.

    This is a sign the place is full of mouth breathing bludgers with the idea that everyone owes them a favour.

    This is why I no longer live there, however the contagion is spreading.

  119. Percy Popinjay

    Fuck that, Fleeced – there are no other options.

  120. C.L.

    Looks like the ‘Liberal’ wing of the Leftist Party won, Gab.
    Yawn.

  121. Gab

    Oh well. Same, same either way, CL.

  122. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Daley concedes defeat

    Labor leader Michael Daley has phoned Gladys Berejiklian to concede defeat and is expected to make his formal concession speech in the next half an hour.

    Meanwhile, a beaming Prime Minister Scott Morrison has arrived at the Liberal Party function in Wentworth, where Ms Berejiklian has reportedly been watching the count and is also expected to appear later tonight

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  123. Peter Castieau

    RKoala

    I don’t know what it is that you find offensive in the tweet you quoted?

  124. Crossie

    What does Daly do before starting his concession speech? He acknowledges the traditional owners of the land he stands on, or some such guff. See Michael, that’s one of the reasons you lost.

  125. Overburdened

    Looks like NSW will continue with a bit of a plan of sorts as opposed to total stupid from the opposition of all stripes, although I presume many preferences would drift to labor.
    No recommendation for the future, but better than the alternative.

  126. Joanna

    We need to reclaim what is ours. The liberal party of small government, low taxes and individual responsibility.

    Amen. It’s okay to be conservative.

    Sadly, the handout mentality, eco-loonism and outrage sooks have destroyed this magnificent country.

  127. Overburdened

    Daley is a fuckwit.
    You may quote me.

  128. Percy Popinjay

    Joanna
    Sadly, the handout mentality, eco-loonism and outrage sooks have destroyed this magnificent country

    Like to help us rectify that, Squirette?

  129. Fleeced

    It’s okay to be conservative.

    Heh… Australian Conservatives should print that on a T-shirt.

  130. Nick

    Jeez Jones hates Daley. It’s a pity that the old goat doesn’t get more of what Daley gave him.

  131. mh

    Started scrolling up and I still have no idea where Cats stand on any of this.

    Did the Chinks win? How? What party are the Chinks in?

    Three seats for a shooters and fishers party. Is that a good result?

    Is Morrison wearing a Sharks jersey? And will the light rail be finished before 2030.

    Has Latham hit anyone?

    So many questions.

  132. Crossie

    Amen. It’s okay to be conservative.

    For a while there it looked like it was going to be outlawed.

  133. Crossie

    Jeez Jones hates Daley.

    People do tend to take offence when you tell them to their face that you will sack them from a board if you win.

  134. Overburdened

    I note Balmain recorded a 43.53% Green vote.
    Send in the neutron bomb.

  135. Tintarella di Luna

    Now don’t take this as a pussy hat piece of schtick. But credit where it’s due Gladys Berejiklian has done really well, hasn’t she? Quite historic she is the first woman as leader to win an election in NSW outright — Nobody’s Girl couldn’t – the only problem is that Phat Phuck Photios will just get stronger.

  136. Crossie

    Overburdened
    #2968163, posted on March 23, 2019 at 10:11 pm
    I note Balmain recorded a 43.53% Green vote.
    Send in the neutron bomb.

    Why bother? It will implode on its own.

  137. Tintarella di Luna

    PhPhS — that gobby Michelle Rowland just will not shut up — thank goodness the Sunbather activates the mute button — what an offing hint, typical Labor woman — all mouth and nothing between the earrings.

  138. Nick

    Now don’t take this as a pussy hat piece of schtick. But credit where it’s due Gladys Berejiklian has done really well, hasn’t she? Quite historic she is the first woman as leader to win an election in NSW outright — Nobody’s Girl couldn’t – the only problem is that Phat Phuck Photios will just get stronger.

    Single, ethnic. She’s not treated at something from a quota.
    Respect.

  139. mem

    Three seats for a shooters and fishers party. Is that a good result?

    Thought I”d take a look at their policies and was suitably impressed. They have obviously got their heads around power prices and the need for base load energy as well as freedom of speech etc. Impressed, no wonder they have won seats. Will vote for them ar the next fed election maybe?

  140. Fleeced

    Did the Chinks win? How? What party are the Chinks in?

    The non-muslim asians seemingly sided with Libs. This is good. They’re mostly pro-business anyway.

    Three seats for a shooters and fishers party. Is that a good result?

    It’s excellent. Depending on how conservative they turn out to be. I suspect it intersects with agrarian socialist policies of the Nats.

    Is Morrison wearing a Sharks jersey?

    Can’t see on the radio, but I like to imagine him wearing a silver spacesuit to reflect in the glory.

    And will the light rail be finished before 2030.

    *sigh*

    Probably. The question is, will be have ripped it up for self-driving cars by then? I hope so.

    Has Latham hit anyone?

    Not yet, but he may have knocked Australian Conservatives and LDP for six. He now as an 8-year taxpayer funded contract. Nice gig if you can get it.

    So many questions.

    Hope this helps.

  141. Crossie

    Gladys is good. Hopefully now that she is a winner in her own right she will have much more clout to stand up to Photios.

  142. Nick

    I note Balmain recorded a 43.53% Green vote.
    Send in the neutron bomb.

    Dumb fucks. Try and get goodies for your electorate with a sitting member who has no influence.
    Jamie ‘I’ll have no railways in my electorate’ Parker. They will reap what they sow.

  143. Leigh Lowe

    I give credit to Malcolm.
    This was his long game.
    To concede Australia and take NSW.

  144. BorisG

    So, the announcement of the death of the Liberal Party was premature. Who knew?

  145. mh

    Thanks Fleeced, you helped out this Qlder.

  146. Crossie

    typical Labor woman — all mouth and nothing between the earrings.

    Tinta, that is a cracker description. Kudos.

  147. bespoke

    Not good but Ill stick with AC for the log run.

  148. mem

    #2968179, posted on March 23, 2019 at 10:18 pm

    I give credit to Malcolm.
    This was his long game.
    To concede Australia and take NSW.

    +1 Still laughing

  149. Fleeced

    Not good but Ill stick with AC for the log run

    Wait, there’s a log run?

  150. Tintarella di Luna

    I give credit to Malcolm.
    This was his long game.
    To concede Australia and take NSW.

    Leigh Lowe great insight, pithy and insightful and hilarious. Thank you

  151. Tintarella di Luna

    How long before we know the Legislative Council make-up — cuppla days or cuppla weeks?

  152. Fleeced

    How long before we know the Legislative Council make-up — cuppla days or cuppla weeks?

    At least a week, I’d imagine.

  153. Crossie

    mem
    #2968191, posted on March 23, 2019 at 10:26 pm
    #2968179, posted on March 23, 2019 at 10:18 pm

    I give credit to Malcolm.
    This was his long game.
    To concede Australia and take NSW.

    +1 Still laughing

    Me too, and loudly.

  154. Rabid Koala

    How long before we know the Legislative Council make-up — cuppla days or cuppla weeks?

    There are 21 seats being contested. Based on what the elections site has about 76% of the vote that went to the 6 biggest (or expected to be biggest) parties has been counted with 15 to 16 seats accounted for and 5 or 6 seats for independents/minority parties. Greens have 2 so far, phon 1 or 2 seats, sff 1, 5 or 6 for labour and 7 or 8 for the coalition. There are also 21 seats not up for grabs so you can look them up to see the make up of the other half of the upper house.

  155. Fleeced

    “The NSW Electoral Commission (NSWEC) has workplace health and safety concerns about staff in voting centres working excessive hours on election day.
    To address this concern and to ensure staff leave the voting centre at a reasonable time, the NSWEC will conduct the initial 1st preference count of the Legislative Council ballot papers to the following 7 groups only:

    Animal Justice Party
    Christian Democratic Party (Fred Nile Group)
    Labor/Country Labor
    Liberal/The Nationals
    Pauline Hanson’s One Nation
    Shooters, Fishers and Farmers
    The Greens”

    No words. Beyond retarded.

  156. Leigh Lowe

    I give credit to Malcolm.
    This was his long game.
    To concede Australia and take NSW.

    Leigh Lowe great insight, pithy and insightful and hilarious. Thank you

    His fallback is total absolute control of Double Bay Rotary Club.

  157. Muddy

    BorisG
    #2968181, posted on March 23, 2019 at 10:20 pm

    So, the announcement of the death of the Liberal Party was premature. Who knew?

    Sometimes death creaks and groans and imitates life until the sphincters decay and the corpse simply deflates.
    Besides, many cannot tell the difference. If the human olfactory sense was as keen as a dog’s, one would suspect that no politicians would escape a mauling in the street.

  158. Overburdened

    Crossie
    A NB would preserve the real estate.

    Ms Berejiklian is a worthy person.
    I believe she has a sense of mission and will continue to do the best she can.

    From a personal perspective she is also a bit yummy

  159. Overburdened

    Call me a romantic fool

  160. Crossie

    Fleeced
    #2968210, posted on March 23, 2019 at 10:43 pm
    “The NSW Electoral Commission (NSWEC) has workplace health and safety concerns about staff in voting centres working excessive hours on election day.
    To address this concern and to ensure staff leave the voting centre at a reasonable time, the NSWEC will conduct the initial 1st preference count of the Legislative Council ballot papers to the following 7 groups only:

    Animal Justice Party
    Christian Democratic Party (Fred Nile Group)
    Labor/Country Labor
    Liberal/The Nationals
    Pauline Hanson’s One Nation
    Shooters, Fishers and Farmers
    The Greens”

    No words. Beyond retarded.

    What? Have these people ever heard of shift work? Other people are capable of counting.

  161. Rococo Liberal

    Tory, Tory, Tory

  162. None

    The Shooters are killing it. Remember Gladys didn’t want to deal with them.

  163. Roberto

    “The NSW Electoral Commission (NSWEC) has workplace health and safety concerns about staff in voting centres working excessive hours on election day.”

    The poor diddums. You’d think once every four years they could actually make an effort.

  164. Overburdened

    Nice LL
    Don’t be surprised when Turnbull has another crack on the Federal level.

  165. Crossie

    From a personal perspective she is also a bit yummy

    I don’t even see the nose any more, it’s just part of her. Interesting that neither of her sisters have it, only Gladys took after dad.

  166. Roberto

    At least it looks like my useless local member, Felicity Wilson in North Shore, has been pushed to preferences.

  167. duncanm

    “The NSW Electoral Commission (NSWEC) has workplace health and safety concerns about staff in voting centres working excessive hours on election day.
    To address this concern and to ensure staff leave the voting centre at a reasonable time, the NSWEC will conduct the initial 1st preference count of the Legislative Council ballot papers to the following 7 groups only:

    will be very interesting to see where that ~14% of “other” that they’re not currently counting end up.

    I can’t believe there’s that many for randoms.

    Liberal Dems ?

  168. Overburdened

    Crossie
    Beauty is as beauty does, as my gran used to say

  169. Joanna

    Percy, I’m in Victoria. It’s me and a handful of others against an entire state of Dannos. Victorians wanted to clip Kennett a little bit, and look where it got them. Feeling a bit envious of NSW right now.

  170. Tintarella di Luna

    His fallback is total absolute control of Double Bay Rotary Club.

    Is it true that his son-in-law has resigned as head of the RSL?

  171. Tintarella di Luna

    In one seat I can’t remember which because I have addle-brain at the moment the Australian Conservatives polled at 6.6%

  172. Fleeced

    will be very interesting to see where that ~14% of “other” that they’re not currently counting end up.

    I can’t believe there’s that many for randoms.

    Yes, the implication when you see the others ranked and then a 13% “Other” is that they were all less.

    But, in fact, LDP and/or AC may well have garnered a decent vote well above the lower order of the seven they decided to count (neither of which previously contested).

    Still seems an odd way of splitting up the workload… and a bit dodgy, since the initial count is important for marketing (yes, the results of the count are PR for future votes, with later results not attracting the same hype). It’s quite shit, really.

  173. Overburdened

    Fleeced
    Think Pro Wrestling

  174. Overburdened

    Gladys
    #undercoverfox

  175. Overburdened

    I hope the minders don’t think that my last comment is creepy….

  176. Ubique

    The commentators and journos are strangely silent on the damage wrought to the Labor brand by former NSW Labor leader, Union organiser and alleged groper Luke Foley. Short memories, huh fellas?

  177. a reader

    Those 7 are the only parties that have garnered any significant votes or members in the last 20 years. ACP, LDP are irrelevant in the lower house.

  178. Infidel Tiger

    It’s my sincere belief that if we (AC) persist we can also be a political force to be reckoned with in the future.

    Yep.

    And one day I’ll wake up in the backseat of my Gull Wing Merc with three playmates sitting on my face and a Baggy Green cap on my head after been chosen to open the bowling in the Boxing Day Test.

  179. duncanm

    a reader
    #2968258, posted on March 23, 2019 at 11:27 pm

    Those 7 are the only parties that have garnered any significant votes or members in the last 20 years. ACP, LDP are irrelevant in the lower house.

    yes.. and ?

    … the NSWEC will conduct the initial 1st preference count of the Legislative Council ..

  180. Leigh Lowe

    Overburdened

    #2968222, posted on March 23, 2019 at 10:51 pm

    Nice LL
    Don’t be surprised when Turnbull has another crack on the Federal level

    Not likely.
    The NSW Greens are trying to purge Communists.

  181. Overburdened

    Interesting times

  182. duncanm

    SFF going to get three lower house seats ?

    Murray and Orange won, Barwon a distinct possibility.

  183. Bruce in WA

    Looks like SFFP will wind up with three seats. Good result.

  184. Infidel Tiger

    SFF three Lower House.

    Nats are a fly blown lezzos arsehole of a party now. Shoot them and move on.

  185. Snoopy

    Lock the Gate have taken over the SFF.

  186. mh

    After seeing the hysterics in NZ this week, NSW may be rejecting vagicide.

    If so, this could have implications for the Fed Election.

  187. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    They are treating their potential base as mugs. It’s not enough to have the word Conservative in your name, you have to have policies, offer alternatives and seize the agenda.

    Nick, here you go, I thoroughly agree with you. I was out on the hustings between 12 and 6pm for the Australian Conservatives, supporting a fellow Cat to get some votes in a Lower House seat as well as on the tablecloth in the Upper House. This was the Aust Cons first go at electoral organization at this level, and it was good in some ways, poor in others. The major Parties of course have better oiled machines.

    One main problem with the Aust Cons this time round, which must change, was that the How To Vote sheet was useless for voters to use for consultation in the booth, because it had absolutely no useful policy information on it. People willing enough to take the hand-out could not quickly grasp what the Aust Cons stood for. ‘A better way ..’ and ‘common sense’ tells them NOTHING unless it says about what. This imho was an absolutely elementary mistake, indicating a tremendous naivety in the higher echelons about how things work at the ‘point of sale’. It became a MAJOR problem for a Party with not much profile. There should have been a few bullet points at the least on that How to Vote sheet. The Greens, for example, had bullet points on the front of their How to Vote sheet, and a policy list on the back. The accompanying leaflet for this excellent candidate was too dense for reading in a hurry, so it was ideally letter-box drop or railway station handout stuff, not a proper punchy booth hand-out, and why have two pieces of paper anyway at this stage? This candidate’s poster was better, the Aust Cons being only Party even bringing up the topic of new power stations, but how many read the poster? People take the How to Vote and move on pronto in busy times.

    Then there is the low profile issue. This Party will sink without trace if its profile is as low as it is now when it comes to the Federal election in May. The good work being done by the volunteers (of whom there were too few at the pointy end on the actual booths) and the money being put into getting a good logo and t-shirts etc, is all wasted if there is no recognition of the name, nor of the leader of the Party. I was asked so often who the leader was and many had never heard of him when I told them. Come out from behind, Cory.

    My husband scrutineered for the Aust Cons. He is very experienced in doing this and in political campaigning in general. We are both Aust Cons members, he’s a Foundation Member, and he agrees completely with my observations above.

    Statewise, we’re both glad to see the Libs got back in over Labor challenges, but still think wise people will buy up on candles and camping stoves for the future unless the Libs grow a pair on climate hysteria and build some baseload power. Appalled to see that Green lunacy is still alive and thriving (30%) in our home electorate of Vaucluse (there a lot of Green Kool-Aid around everywhere still, which needs some push back) but at least an idiot stooge Green Independent, as per Phelps, was not returned; the electorate turned back to the Liberals. Our view: pandering to Green ideologies will destroy the Liberals; differentiating on climate hysteria will assist them much more.

  188. stackja

    Water politics finally getting attention? NSW isn’t just coastal.

  189. stackja

    Liz – Cory doesn’t understand politics. PHON does. Even FA knows. Cory either learns quickly or AC are gone.

  190. Mark A

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2968291, posted on March 24, 2019 at 12:13 am

    One main problem with the Aust Cons this time round, which must change, was that the How To Vote sheet was useless for voters to use for consultation in the booth, because it had absolutely no useful policy information on it. People willing enough to take the hand-out could not quickly grasp what the Aust Cons stood for.

    While it’s a bit late to woo people with policy at the polling booth, I agree that some pithy, condensed information for those who don’t want either major party, would have been very handy.

    Those not wanting to waste their vote but ignorant of what the AC stands for, may have changed their vote?
    Hard to say.
    Every little bit helps, hope they get enough votes for the upper.

  191. Snoopy

    When did the Australian Conservatives decide to contest lower house seats? At the QLD AC state conference earlier this year, Bernardi was adamant that the party had to first win upper house seats and raise it’s profile before contesting lower house seats. Seems like it was a better plan.

  192. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Those not wanting to waste their vote but ignorant of what the AC stands for, may have changed their vote?
    Hard to say.

    Hmm. Not really, Mark. My experience in the past working the booths (my past life!) is that Party supporters intensively working the booth can have quite an impact on the numbers on the day. You may be surprised how many people amble in with not much idea of who to vote for and look to the How to Vote sheets or an enthusiastic and helpful smile to make up their mind. We have calculated some returns booth by booth in past elections we’ve been involved with, and good materials and capable volunteers, can improve what was in prior elections a ‘bad’ booth by as much as fifteen percent. Definitely not to be sneezed at.

  193. Beachcomber

    NSW state election: Malcolm Turnbull shows support for Libs on polling day

    The former prime minister spent Saturday morning with Coogee MP Bruce Notley-Smith at a polling booth in Sydney’s eastern suburbs.

    Isn’t Coogee the only seat that Labor gained? More proof of the incredible electoral appeal of Turnmerckel.

  194. Fleeced

    Water politics finally getting attention? NSW isn’t just coastal.

    Could be, could be. Leyonhjelm was hammering that before the election, so he might do well in LC if it is (though I suspect SFF got would have attracted more votes there).

    I think LDP needs to run a candidate everywhere to get attention (and attract more upper house votes), but that takes time – and you end up with too many eccentrics. The closest they came to doing that was 2007 when they ran in all of the marginals. I ran that year, but so did Bird. LOL.

  195. Fleeced

    PS: the 2007 was federal, of course, not state.

  196. OldOzzie

    Bruce in WA
    #2968275, posted on March 23, 2019 at 11:46 pm

    Looks like SFFP will wind up with three seats. Good result.

    NOPE

    The SFF Party have gone Green

    DECEMBER 2 2018 – 3:30PM
    Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party call for coal seam gas mining halt

    The Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party want a moratorium on coal seam gas mining.

    Dubbo SFF candidate Lara Quealy said her party’s position on coal seam gas has been crystal clear for many years.

    “We oppose any new coal seam gas exploration until the 16 recommendations of the NSW Chief Scientist are met,” she said.

    “We support the ban on coal seam gas exploration on prime agricultural land and anywhere water supply could be threatened.

    “This should be a major election issue. Prime agricultural land should not be put in danger with CSG mining and I will fight for this up to and beyond the election.”

    The Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party pledged to vote in favour of a private members bill that would place a temporary halt to coal seam gas mining if passed.

    A private member’s bill by Labor MP Adam Searle proposed placing a moratorium on all coal seam gas mining until scientific and environmental studies were complete.

    Did not give a single vote to SFFP on NSW Upper House Tablecloth because of this.

  197. Tintarella di Luna

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2968291, posted on March 24, 2019 at 12:13 am

    Thank you Lizzie what a huge effort on your part – wish things were otherwise and there’d have been a little company for you — next time.

  198. Entropy

    The irony is that Queensland, with tens of thousands of CSG wells, has proven the opposite of fringe parties’ fears. Doesn’t stop the scum fearmongering though.

    And of course, the scum then get worried about the price of gas and demand access to Qld CSG, at a lower price than export. They can F.O.

  199. People willing enough to take the hand-out could not quickly grasp what the Aust Cons stood for.

    Probably because they stand for nothing.
    However, if the HTV card presented what they stood against, it might have been more useful and accurate.
    They claim to be “conservatives”, after all.

  200. hzhousewife

    Did not give a single vote to SFFP on NSW Upper House Tablecloth because of this.

    Neither did I, for same reasons.

  201. bespoke

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2968291, posted on March 24, 2019 at 12:13 am

    Thanks for putting so much time into AC and lets hope things improve.

  202. Rococo Liberal

    I did a favour for a friend back in Gladys’s first election in Willoughby in 2003 and spent a few hours handing out HTV leaflets. She was standing against a popular local mayor, Pat Riley, who was running as an independent.
    I learnt a lot about politics that day. So many people coming in to vote were happy when they saw Riley’s posters. I heard them them say with relief, “I know him” as they gladly took one of his HTVs from his pretty young helpers who were dressed in garish T shirts.
    Apparently, Riley had a very good profile in the area and wrote a column in the local paper every week over which his picture appeared. This made him a viable candidate against Gladys, who not only had a funny name, but was standing for the Liberals when they were riven by factional brawling and couldn’t even beat Bob Carr. More interesting still was that Riley had put up for Liberal preselection and was miffed that he’d been beaten by an unknown.
    Gladys won by just over 130 votes.
    She later sent me a lovely letter thanking me for my support.
    My friend introduced her to me at a few party functions he arranged at his local branch. I found her to be very different to any other politician I’ve met. She was clearly more shy and has to work hard on the glad-handing and baby kissing aspects of being an MP.
    But she can’t be all bad if John Howard, whom I met as several of her functions, is her mentor.

  203. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Some experiences on the day:

    Unpleasant to be called ‘racist’ by one man in the line; I quickly and audibly disabused him of this belief. What was interesting was the willingness of many people of Asian appearance who happily took the How to Vote and also how some key Party members seemed to be Asian Christians.

    Amusing to stand next to the quite pleasant woman handing out for the Voluntary Euthanasia Party on an Upper-House-only ticket as she enquired of people, especially younger people, with the word query ‘Voluntary Euthanasia?’ Raised a laugh quite often, and a few older people were clearly on board with her, but in general my feeling was that not many people were interested in an Upper-House-only ticket for a single issue. Even ‘Animal Justice’ (a green Vegan group) was running for the Lower House as well. I heard one young girl grab the How to Vote and say to her friends “Oh this one looks good, I just love animals, I can vote for this one”, thinking it was about cats, dogs, fluffy kittens and cute koalas.

    I still think that a Lower House presence is essential for any Party wanting to make its name and policies known, but I don’t know recent Aust Cons thinking on this vs Cory’s initial desire to not go local ‘too soon’. From what I was seeing and asked about re the Aust Cons, ordinary voters don’t see you as a ‘real’ political Party if you aren’t there on the local scene as well, and also if you don’t have a nominated ‘leader’ who is well known. Even the ‘Sustainable Party’ had an imprimateur in their How-to-Vote from Dick Smith to capitalise on. So the Aust Cons will have to play a long game if they want to capitalize on the ‘Conservative’ brand and become a distinct player. Unless there is more profile, and some policy differentiation, the long game will be very hard indeed to maintain.

    The older Green hippy guy originally from FNQ, the Voluntary Euthanasia woman and I each put on a united front of being nice to each other and helpful to others. Booths can get like that. People surmount differences to all be on the same page at the job: catching voters and getting the How-to-Vote to them.

    And the job is exhausting and in exhaustion people tend to combine feelings and the clock watching. Whence cometh the hour of the end, of the day for many, of the shift to the less stalwart? Poor ole hubby, he of the bad leg and blind eye, was helping me when he wasn’t driving between booths to cover those unattended for a few hours and check there had been no sinister destruction of materials. Volunteers tend to be older and often find it a task better suited to the stronger and younger.

    The local Mayor, a nominal Independent, was at our Booth introducing herself as such with a very bouncy ‘Hellllooooo, I’m your local Mayor’ with ‘Mayor’ getting an upbeat ‘aren’t-you-lucky-I’m-here-to-greet-you’ stress and nearly everyone stopped out of courtesy, to hear her continue ‘ …. and I’m here today to support x (the Lib candidate) who I can tell you is doing such a wonderful job’. Her work got many votes I am sure. About quarter to six the poor woman looked at me with glazed eyes and said, by way of excuse, ‘I’m so exhausted’ after she came up to me with Hellloooooo, and I sympathized. I was exhausted too, briefly sharing the same foxhole. The Libs here beat the Independent Candidate whom we suspected of Get Up support; the Aust Cons candidate thought that was the case, and Green Council equipment seems to have been used in putting up her posters early on. Unverified rumour was too that the Libs hired many younger workers at around $100 for four hours.

    Come on down Cats to Electoral Lands in May and work for your choices. Good to hear Gladys, in her fascinating election-claiming speech, acknowledge the input to Australian democracy of ALL workers in the field for all Parties on the day. She’s an interesting woman with the line ‘and you all know Mary’. Gladys was well-summarized by a female TV journalist in a panel a day or so ago as ‘a girly swot’. It summarized well what we guessed, she is of those girls at school whose dog never ever ate their homework. A very private person, and good luck to her in that, who has recently shown a little more of her very nice gentle side which compliments the iron hand of discipline and hard work that lies within that velvet glove. Plus one from me.

  204. Tel

    The Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party want a moratorium on coal seam gas mining.

    They are taking the farmer’s side in a dispute over who gets access to the land. I can understand farmers getting pissed because they lost their own farm to mining leases. I know a family who got thrown off their land completely by the NSW government because of coal mining. They did get some money in compensation but not a whole lot and it wasn’t even slightly a voluntary exchange.

    Is anyone going to put their hand up and say the SFFP should take the miner’s side in this?

  205. Tintarella di Luna

    Snoopy
    #2968301, posted on March 24, 2019 at 12:31 am
    When did the Australian Conservatives decide to contest lower house seats? At the QLD AC state conference earlier this year, Bernardi was adamant that the party had to first win upper house seats and raise it’s profile before contesting lower house seats. Seems like it was a better plan.

    Hi Snoopy I think that was the intention but I am sure there were members pressing to do something and that is why they’ve run in the Legislative Assembly in NSW.

  206. Bruce

    Rococo”
    But she can’t be all bad if John Howard, whom I met as several of her functions, is her mentor.

    Don’t bet on it. Howard has been known to display nasty, statist tendancies in the past.

  207. Diogenes

    My friend introduced her to me at a few party functions he arranged at his local branch. I found her to be very different to any other politician I’ve met. She was clearly more shy and has to work hard on the glad-handing and baby kissing aspects of being an MP.

    I was channel surfing between ABC Nein & Seven for the election coverage in the ads during “The Mummy” (9 Go). ABC & Seven were the most professional, and I thought Morris Iemma on 9 was fair on both parties, Stokes seemed a bit of a smart arse (can I say that about about my ultimate boss?) , and whoever that young fellow sitting next to Car on the right of the panel was an aggressive obnoxious little **se , but to be fair he was the same to both parties.

    Can’t remember which channel, but one of the commentators made the point that both Gladys & Pony Girl, are not “media personalities” like some of the other, and former, state leaders (and Michael Daley is even worse), but they are competent at service delivery (another commented, but NSW at least has 3% unemployment, a surplus & 90billion in works).

    I am looking forward to doing a booth analysis of the southern booths in the Swansea Electorate, ALP had a 3.5% swing against(2 more like that& the SFL can win it) , and it was interesting to watch people refusing the ALP htv at he booth when I went to vote (only ALP & Greens) . One refuser even pinched my my line “has she ever crossed the Swansea Bridge? with what has she done for us down this end of the electorate”

  208. Bruce

    Lizzie:

    Correct response to ‘Voluntary Euthanasia?’”would be “Retrospective abortion?”

    May or may not get some synapses to fire.

  209. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thank you Lizzie what a huge effort on your part – wish things were otherwise and there’d have been a little company for you — next time.

    Thanks Tinta. Next time will happen soon enough. You and I are well aware of how we’ve each been very busy wives and mothers lately. I only just managed on Thursday to free up enough time to get there on Saturday. Catch up soon. 🙂

  210. candy

    Gladys B seems a good sort. She’s not the glamorous kind of sexy Kristine Keneally type, but more dependable, dedicated to the job and trustworthy, and just generally a nice person and I bet the people around her like working for her.

  211. egg_

    pretty young helpers who were dressed in garish T shirts.

    IIRC the Greens pulled that stunt at my booth in the Hunter last Election.

  212. candy

    The AusCons might come into their own if the LNP don’t win the election. Maybe. They seem so very low energy, like they are waiting for a dynamic leader to come and direct them.

  213. mem

    #2968431, posted on March 24, 2019 at 9:36 am
    The Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party want a moratorium on coal seam gas mining.

    They are taking the farmer’s side in a dispute over who gets access to the land. I can understand farmers getting pissed because they lost their own farm to mining leases. I know a family who got thrown off their land completely by the NSW government because of coal mining. They did get some money in compensation but not a whole lot and it wasn’t even slightly a voluntary exchange.

    Is anyone going to put their hand up and say the SFFP should take the miner’s side in this?

    My reading of the SFFP policy on CSG is that it is not a blanket anti CSG stance.
    From the website
    “We support measures to ensure that we have a sufficient, long term and low-cost
    supply of natural resources such as coal and gas for our domestic use. Our
    thriving export market brings great benefits to NSW however this should not
    jeopardize domestic supply.
    We will work tirelessly to ensure that we keep the lights on and reduce power
    prices.
    Notwithstanding this, mining exploration and extraction must never be allowed to
    permanently effect prime agricultural land or water systems, either surface or
    subterranean.
    Our Action Plan:
    1. Support the exploration and development of coal and mineral resources
    where appropriate.
    2. Immediate moratorium on Coal Seam Gas (CSG) projects in NSW and a
    permanent ban in the Northern Rivers until the NSW Government
    implements all 16 recommendations of the Chief Scientist and Engineer’s
    report into the CSG activities in NSW.
    3. Support the immediate construction of a new HELE power plant in the
    Hunter Valley utilising the modern technology to ensure the highest
    standards of efficiency.
    4. Support a policy framework that supports investment in affordable, reliable
    energy generation and supply.
    5. Oppose the ongoing use of taxpayers money to subsidise intermittent
    energy sources.
    6. Support the use of nuclear energy as a possible source of power.
    7. Oppose further development of interconnectors between adjoining states as
    such infrastructure would further destabilise our delicate electricity network
    with NSW taxpayers bearing the cost.
    8. Oppose any form of carbon tax.
    9. Campaign to introduce education and training programs in all government
    natural resource agencies to ensure staff understand the benefits of modern
    agriculture, forestry and mining. ”
    Seems reasonable to me. But I’m a farmer.

  214. Diogenes

    Notwithstanding this, mining exploration and extraction must never be allowed to
    permanently effect prime agricultural land or water systems, either surface or
    subterranean.

    This one is the kicker and has been used for the last 20+ years to try to stop Wallarah 2(opponents lost yet another challenge just last week)

    My suggestion for the NSW Libs for the next budget speech…
    “We understand and are sympathetic to objections to coal & gas mining in NSW. Taking a leaf from Super Funds, who have responded to pressure from their members to not invest in coal & gas. I hereby announce that;
    1. Mining royalties will NO LONGER be included in the budget.
    2. All fees, charges and tolls will increase to compensate for the loss of royalty income as per the following schedule …
    3. Inspired by the ‘Alaska Permanent Fund’, to compensate those who have no objection to coal or gas, an entirely voluntary opt-in scheme will be set up. On the 1st of the month, those who have opted in will have deposited in their account a sum equal to the royalties received the previous month, by the number of people in the scheme at the end of that month. This will mean those who object will not receive the benefits.
    4. People not in this scheme will, compulsorily, have smart meters installed & when renewables in the state on aggregate produce leas than 10% of nameplate capacity, their supply will be discontinued until production of 20% of nameplate capacity is achieved.

  215. A Lurker

    The AusCons might come into their own if the LNP don’t win the election. Maybe. They seem so very low energy, like they are waiting for a dynamic leader to come and direct them.

    I can think of one man.
    One of our own here on the Cat.
    Riccardo, come on down!

  216. MikeS

    Thanks for the account from the coal face Lizzie, interesting to gain an insight from the world of coloured tee shirts, sausage sizzles and paper reams.

    From my pov, I’m a little saddened that ‘how to vote’ cards even exist let alone make any difference. It’s not that hard to fill out the ballot paper and if you don’t know who you plan to vote for by the footpath outside – don’t vote – please. Take it home and flush it – maybe use the upper house one as a table cloth. Perhaps practice colouring in, but stop sending equally misinformed candidates into parliament!

  217. Helen

    When working a booth, I will make up a phrase to go with handing over the HTV. One that resonates with that community. I did two weeks remote polling for Bess Price time before last, when she won and the politics and physical set up of each community was different. Now there is a 200 m rule, it will be much harder. The object is to get them to take your HTV last, because then it will be on top of the pile, unless one is smaller, then the smaller one will be on top. In communities you need to keep the HTV clear and concise, Bess’s was covered with photos which was distracting and too big, so it was often tidied to the bottom of the pile before your eyes.

    That is after all the other vital things are sorted, like interpreters, local assistants, core flutes winning the approach, your friend pumping up the tyres on the community bus so the oldies can come to vote EC were not interested in getting their votes.

  218. Roger

    People who need a HTV card shouldn’t be voting.

  219. RobK

    Is anyone going to put their hand up and say the SFFP should take the miner’s side in this?
    The problem stems from property rights not including water and minerals, so the State has split loyalties having issued two(or more) sets of rights over the same space, including vertical differentiation. If land is compulsory acquired, then the compensation should be on just terms. However, State constitutions don’t all require such.
    Where water and coal mining are likely to cause harm, the State has placed itself as the arbiter and generally a technical review will determine the risk pretty accurately.
    Coal mining land can be rehabilitated but ground water can have off site impacts that need to be factored in.
    These issues can be managed and should be compensated adequately both before development and in the event of any breach of conditions.

  220. Tel

    candy #2968448,

    Let’s see how much acclaim Gladys gets from the usual media hand wringers calling for women in leadership. At no stage did she campaign on, “Vote for me, I’m a woman” and overall it was low key, just running on her record … good and bad though that might be.

    The media don’t really support women in leadership, they only support Lefty women in leadership.

    Gladys is the first woman to have ever won the NSW Premiership, and she did it without much media support and without resorting to shallow virtue signalling. That’s a good reflection on NSW overall.

  221. Tel

    If land is compulsory acquired, then the compensation should be on just terms. However, State constitutions don’t all require such.

    In NSW there’s no constitutional requirement for compensation, but usually some compensation is offered regardless. How just the terms are is, as ever, a matter of opinion. If you have a family farm and the occupants have been there for several generations, then get told to piss off and go find different jobs, living somewhere else … that’s a big disruption to your life.

    Where water and coal mining are likely to cause harm, the State has placed itself as the arbiter and generally a technical review will determine the risk pretty accurately.

    The state government sees money from the royalties where no money existed before. As many people have discovered, government decisions are inherently political and if you want to get heard the ONLY way that’s gonna happen if you hold some seats and the government depends on you in some way. The Nationals became a useless appendage of the Liberal Party, so now the farmers are looking to get leverage by other means.

  222. Percy Popinjay

    Thanks Lizzie – some other observations:

    People continually confused the AusCons HTV with that of the Gliberals. I ended up having to change my script to “Conservatives, they’re not the liberals”, or “Conservatives, the sensible alternative to the liberals”.

    About the closest I came to being abused was when some ol’ smartarse had a good look at the HTV and then dramatically recoiled, stating, “I’m not a conservative”. Had to bite my tongue so as not to reply with “so, you’re an unthinking brainwashed imbecile”.

    That smarmy ol’ mayor also made an appearance at the booth. The greenfilth HTV distributors were exactly what I expected – smug hypocritcal middle aged white boomer scumbags. The mayor’s assistants were also incorrectly advising people to number all the boxes, for which an ol’ collectivist woman took them to task. I also made sure when handing out the HTVs to older ladies that I pointed out that our candidate was “a very sensible young man”, they always nodded approvingly and replied with something like, “yes, he does look like a lovely young man”. In politics in seems, image is almost everything.

  223. RobK

    I should add; where the coal seam is in or near the water table, CSG extraction is a problem and generally best left alone. In other cases there are many hundreds of vertical meters between the resources .

  224. Percy Popinjay

    Riccardo, come on down!

    Lurker – the AusCons are so useless they haven’t even given him a winnable position on the senate ticket.

    Absolutely hopeless.

  225. Percy Popinjay

    People who need a HTV card shouldn’t be voting.

    Agreed. Given the ability of and the ease with which politicians can destroy our society and economy, not to mention the direct adverse impact their craven arrogant stupidity has on peoples’ lives, it is criminal to be so ill informed.

    Hence my implacable opposition to compulsory voting.

  226. RobK

    [email protected],
    I agree whole heartedly with each point you make there.
    Its the property rights and the compensation issue that plagues those states with constitutions dating to penal colonies. Thats the tragedy.

  227. Fleeced

    Outside of the seven they’ve decided to count in the LC – the rest won’t even be started until Wednesday.

    This is insane!

  228. Percy Popinjay

    This is insane!

    They’re as hopeless as the federal AEC. Here’s hoping they don’t “find” an additional several hundred thousand votes (which of course, all end up going to labore and the greenfilth) that just happened to have “fallen off the back of a truck”.

  229. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Stant Grant rejects PM offer

    Popular TV journalist and now Griffith Uni professor Stan Grant has turned down an offer by Prime Minister Scott Morrisonr for him to run for the Liberal Party in the seat of Reid, after Craig Laundy announced he will not be re-contesting.

    After a week wrestling with the idea, Grant politely declined the offer stating “the role is just not for me. I like what I am doing now, totally independently, and I don’t have to make my views fit within a party framework.”

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  230. Tel

    People who need a HTV card shouldn’t be voting.

    Agree on that. A very simple complete ban on any HTV cards or similar posters would be the fastest and easiest improvement in quality of voting.

    I notice that Labor was putting up posters saying: “Important, just vote [1]” trying to discourage people from using their preferences. That tells me all I need to know about the major parties wanting to do away with preferential voting … which gives a leg-up to minor parties.

  231. Muddy

    Griffith Uni professor Stan Grant

    Polarazzi – A former sportsperson or other high-profile individual who seeks to extend their ’15 minutes’ by becoming a politician. Muddy.

    Acarazzi?

  232. struth

    After a week wrestling with the idea, Grant politely declined the offer stating “the role is just not for me. I like what I am doing now, totally independently, and I don’t have to make my views fit within a party framework.”

    Breaking, from the Oz.

    Says the bloke that has to bow to identity politics so much to work, he actually paints himself.

  233. cohenite

    As many people have discovered, government decisions are inherently political and if you want to get heard the ONLY way that’s gonna happen if you hold some seats and the government depends on you in some way. The Nationals became a useless appendage of the Liberal Party, so now the farmers are looking to get leverage by other means.

    Correct; other proven political tactics are owning/controlling a media outlet, being able to astroturf or having lots of dough.

  234. wazz

    Tel posted on March 24, 2019 at 9:36 am [The Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party want a moratorium on coal seam gas mining.

    They are taking the farmer’s side in a dispute over who gets access to the land. I can understand farmers getting pissed because they lost their own farm to mining leases. I know a family who got thrown off their land completely by the NSW government because of coal mining. They did get some money in compensation but not a whole lot and it wasn’t even slightly a voluntary exchange.
    Is anyone going to put their hand up and say the SFFP should take the miner’s side in this?]

    Sorry Tel – I am putting my hand up for the resources industry that is so vital to our economy yet so little understood. First lets state the obvious that NSW farmers do NOT own mineral rights – just check wording on titles. The State Govt/Crown owns mineral rights on behalf of “we the people” all in NSW and licences competent explorers under strict conditions via the Mining Act to spend their shareholders hard earned to try and make a discovery. Usually the explorer enters into a compensation agreement with the landholder(s) which often involves an agreement to buy the farm. If a payable orebody is discovered then land is purchased from landholders at an agreed premium to agri-value(often 1.5 x ag value) and when a mine eventuates then royalties are paid to the State Govt. And of course there are huge benefits in wages n salaries – taxes – regional development – viable country towns instead of rows of empty shops etc.
    Following the Obeid/Macdonald coal licences corruption on Labor’s watch in 2008-09. The NSW Lib Govt have over years increased pointless green & red tape “compliance costs” damaging all resources explorers – when the vast majority of exploration was never broken. NSW must have the most anti-resources State Govt.

    I do not believe your farmer friends would have got a bad deal from the Govt. Obviously under those circumstances the Govt could not stand by and see valuable State resources owned by “we the people” held to ransom.

    So The Shooters want a moratorium on coal seam gas mining.
    I thought gas exploration was pretty much dead in NSW anyway under the Lib Govt – except for the Santos Pilliga project – which has for years been stonewalled by “lock the gaters” blocking a pipeline in the western NSW boondocks. So what can the Shooters add to that economic sabotage?
    Tell me where gas exploration is proceeding normally in NSW with every expectation of getting gas to market.
    I think nowhere.

  235. bespoke

    Roger
    #2968468, posted on March 24, 2019 at 10:29 am
    People who need a HTV card shouldn’t be voting.

    Most people have better things to do then spend so much time navigating this circus. Yep they get what they deserve but It shouldn’t be so hard.

  236. W Hogg

    The media don’t really support women in leadership, they only support Lefty women in leadership.

    Did a single femynyzt “progressive” come out and say “regardless of political differences, you should vote for historical female premier than for the man who pretty much said ‘Asians out’?”

  237. egg_

    The Nationals became a useless appendage of the Liberal Party, so now the farmers are looking to get leverage by other means.

    Good on ’em.

  238. egg_

    Once Barndoor started erecting Windfarms, the jig was up.

  239. Roger

    Most people have better things to do then spend so much time navigating this circus.

    No doubt, but the quality of a democracy depends on the quality of the voters.

    As James Madison put it:

    “I go on this great republican principle, that the people will have virtue and intelligence to select men of virtue and wisdom. Is there no virtue among us? If there be not, we are in a wretched situation. No theoretical checks — no form of government can render us secure.”

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